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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

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Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived; neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor homosexuals, nor thieves, nor the covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers, will inherit the kingdom of God. Such were some of you; but you were washed, but you were sanctified, but you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and in the Spirit of our God.

— 1 Corinthians 6:9-11 NAS95

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Worst of sinners was I even when I believed I had been saved or perhaps was being saved "since before the beginning". šŸ™ŒšŸ¼ Christ Alone for God Alone by God Alone shout GLORY TO HIS NAME!

Juliann's avatar

RJ- you making me cry tears of joy this morning! Amen and amen.

fineart2day's avatar

Washed - Sanctified - Justified!!! My LORD šŸ™ŒšŸ•Šļø

M Whitney's avatar

Thank you my Jesus, The Christ, for washing away my sins in your perfect blood, my propitiation that overcomes sin, death and the grave and makes me a forgiven Child of God!

Salvation is mine in You!

All thanks and praise be to God and the Lamb!

Amen.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

ā€œMy Jesusā€ is part of the title for my work in progress devotional book. ā¤ļø

Juliann's avatar

Janice! Praying that your book will be directed to the hands and eyes that need it most! God bless your work and you this morning.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Thank you, Juliann. May He bless you as well!

Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Jeez, Janice, that probably eliminates more than half of the church people today that believe what men have taught them, saying that all they have to do is confess their sins and all is well with the Lord. On the other hand, we have this from God himself;

ā€œBehold, you are trusting in deceptive words to no avail. Will you steal, murder, and commit adultery and swear falsely, and offer sacrifices to Baal and walk after other gods that you have not known, then come and stand before Me in this house, which is called by My name, and say, ā€˜We are delivered!’--that you may do all these abominations? Has this house, which is called by My name, become a den of robbers in your sight? Behold, I, even I, have seen it,ā€ declares the LORD.ā€ Jeremiah 7:8-11 (NASB95)

S.P.H.'s avatar

I'll add on if allowed Jeremiah, great name by the way.

Anyone at anytime can say oopsie, sorry Lord. But that doesn't absolve you unless you repent. If a person isn't convicted by sin, after 'accepting' the Lord, I'm guessing the sinner is only fooling themself and the Holy Spirit hasn't fallen upon them.

Like the homosexual that continues to live in that sin, the murderer that continues to murder, the thief that continues to steal, they are purely fooling themselves. Not fooling God.

Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Ā Ā  Of course you’re allowed, SPH, in fact, you are welcome to reply.

Your point about having to repent is well taken. Repentance, though, should result in never having to confess that particular sin again. As to the idea of ā€˜accepting’ the Lord, we should consider that Jesus said ā€œyou didn’t choose me. I chose you.ā€ Which may very well explain why many of those people that ā€˜accept’ the Lord continue on in sin. Because, I find for them that Jesus chooses, living without sin is actually quite easy to do, especially if you love him, coupled with thinking that the consequence would be that you could not enter into the kingdom of God. (God forbid)

And I have to agree that the people who continue to do things that are contrary to the voice of God will experience the consequence of their disobedience. The verse that Janice put up there says that the consequence is that they would not enter the kingdom of God.

So your use of the words ā€˜fooling themselves’ is appropriate.

…They will be likened to the foolish virgins

Tom Wiedemeier's avatar

SPH - you are correct. That is why Paul gave us the warning passage 1 Cor. 6:9-11. A believer cannot sin and not grieve the Holy Spirit. Paul also gave us Romans chapter 7. The believer can yield to the flesh too many times, but he hates it. Paul says, and I paraphrase, ā€œthat which I don’t wanna do I do. O wretched man that I am! Who will deliver me from this body of death?ā€I say if a person doesn’t struggle with their sin they’re probably not a believer. They hate sin because as a new creation, to sin is not his nature. As Saints we can be disobedient children of the king, but we do not have to sin, because it is not our nature. The new man has a divine nature that wants to obey. Unfortunately, we still have this dead carcass called the flesh tied to our neck until glory. That’s why we’re told to mortify our members and use them to His glory. We have a to please, where before we didn’t.

Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

Per Jeff's comment:

"Missing from the discussion is anything about fairness to victims. After all, victims are also promised their day in court. But ā€œcashless bailā€ makes that promise optional, depending on whether the perpetrator feels like showing up that day."

Eliminating 'cashless bail' might be a start, but eliminate the urge to commit crimes should be the end goal.

Here's an article about two individuals (one a Pastor) who got ensnared in a pedophelia sting operation. Even after posting $10k in bail, one grabbed up their passport (might have been given back to them by authorities) and fled the country.

Completely defeats the purpose of giving the victim their day in court if politics and power can defeat the purpose of laws, and therefore be allowed to be lawless themselves.

https://www.zerohedge.com/political/senior-israeli-official-arrested-vegas-pedophile-sting-released-and-flies-home

One of the other men caught in the sting was Neal Harrison Creecy, a 46-year-old Vegas church pastor at Las Vegas Redemption Church, who promptly resigned after posting bail. He has reportedly confessed his sins to earthly authorities.

It's not clear why or how he was allowed to return to Israel, which has a reputation as a haven for pedophiles who prey on American children. Citing a Jewish watchdog group, a 2020 CBS News report found that, in just the previous six years, more than 60 Jewish Americans who'd been accused of pedophilia had fled to Israel, taking advantage of Israel's "Right of Return" law that lets any Jew in the world enjoy instant citizenship.

Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Actually, I have what I consider to be a Positively good idea based on a really good TV series called Night Court. We can have morning court, afternoon court, evening court, and night court. If we’ve got video evidence of the crime and the criminal so that there is no doubt, if there are multiple witnesses at the scene of the crime so there is no doubt about the guilt of the criminal, Take them to court right away with the evidence in hand. Find them guilty and then either sentence them right away or put them in jail awaiting sentencing.

I’ll give you an example. I was at a bar one night. There were three other men sitting at the bar, a female bartender was behind the bar. It was quiet and this guy came in, scruffy looking guy with shaggy hair, full beard, wearing a blue jean jacket, his hand in his jacket pocket, goes behind the bar and he starts whispering in this bartender’s ear. I figure he’s robbing her and I don’t wanna just snatch the guy away, so I go to get the manager real quick, but by the time I got back, the guy had already left. The girl told the the three guys at the bar that she had just been robbed. Go figure, these guys are off-duty sheriff deputies, they run him down out in the back alley and handcuff him and bring him back. I’m one of the witnesses, then they take my name and information and I’m thinking now they got him. Eight months later I get a notice that I am being called in as a witness for his trial, eight effing months! I get into the court and on the witness stand, The prosecutor asked me do I see anybody in the court that looks like the guy that I positively identified the night of the crime. I looked at everybody in that courtroom, everybody, including the guilty guy, all the jurors, even looked at the judge, turned back to the prosecutor and said ā€œI don’t see anybody that looks like him.ā€ I was pissed. There is no way! They clean the guy up, put him in a suit, shave him, cut his hair and he don’t look anything like he looked the night of the crime. I saw him. I would’ve been perfectly willing to go to the night court, swear under oath that I saw this man rob that girl. So what about the victim?

…Good question, easy answer would be ā€œNight Court.ā€

Theodore St Mars Jr's avatar

Confess your sins directly to God. Not a man! No priest, man or woman can forgive your sins.

JCrutcher's avatar

Praise You for your Word, Lord. Thank you Janice P. for bringing this scripture to us, today.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Changing Images of Man Report 1974 "The Nation was to be programmed to change and become so accustomed to such planned changes that it would hardly be noticeable when profound changes did occur." "Social deviation are now commonplace and excite no social protest." John Coleman Committee of 300

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

The lesson of the frog in the pot of water.

Maureen ODH's avatar

John Coleman Committee of 300… astonishing book… explains the deep state and their psychotic distain if not hatred for ā€œwe the peopleā€ā€¦. https://libertyordeath101.substack.com/p/the-committee-of-300

Bard Joseph's avatar

That's no way to address the Federal Reserve Board.

Jeff S's avatar

Yup. They won't understand.

CStone's avatar

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Whiter than snow, yes whiter than snow....all we who have been bathed in the "blood of the Lamb" lose ALL our previous 'guilty stains' and become NEW CREATURES living lives pleasing to our Creator God (and when we slip and fall into UNGodly ways--the Holy Spirit convicts us of our sins and degradation--REPENTENCE follows and then RESTORATION.... what bliss to know that we are FORGIVEN. My we also FORGIVE when those we hold dear slip and fall--and pray for their "restoration".

As for those who are DEDICATED to the UNGODly ways they pursue...all we can do is pray for them to be 'made aware' and that they TURN TO THE SAVIOR--the Only Begotten Son of Jehovah Jireh!!

GOOD NEWS - that's the meaning of the GOSPEL - that's the ONLY NEWS I savor and favor anymore.

Thank you, Janice, for always inserting the GOOD NEWS into the C & C blog....it is much needed and ALWAYS appreciated by this "sinner saved by God's grace".

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Donna—That is such a beautiful, moving song. I listened to it a lot through taking care of my mom and in dealing with my medical issues. Thank you for the reminder of it.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Defn: of a catamite, a male who submits his body to unnatural lewdness

Synickel's avatar

Why are you posting on this man's substack. Your stuff is nice, but why don't you get your own substack. This man is addressing specific information, and you are promoting yourself on it.

Faith Ham's avatar

Lisa Cook is to the Fed what Ketanji Brown Jackson is to the Supreme Court.

Jon Stephenson's avatar

A SC justice at least has to write opinions and ask questions in hearings that reveal how smart (or not smart) he/she is. Fed governors are usually unheard of and anonymous.

God bless Trump and his team for turning the heat up on idiots like this alleged public servant.

Bard Joseph's avatar

They gave us the income tax to soak us with their debt.

Willing Spirit's avatar

I was ā€˜coming of age’ when the Civil Rights Movement hit. I watched it pretty quickly go from ā€˜treat everyone the same’ to ā€˜some get special treatment’ and then into full fledged DEI.

In the following years, I was taking education courses and then working in the schools as a young adult.

There was an obvious switch from everyone doing and being graded on their own work, when I was a student, to group work in which the group got a grade that applied to everyone after wide scale school integration.

Of course standardized tests became a problem, because they always had to be individually given. Hence, they were proclaimed to be ā€˜racist’, because some students had unfair environmental experiences that gave them advantages.

I always said, BS; because I would stack my impoverished and disadvantaged childhood against any in America and I was always up there near the top in standardized testing from my earliest days.

Anyhow, I understand how some get through the educational system and get credentials they have not earned and then get into seats of power, where they require cover from more qualified, complicit peers to hide incompetence.

Fla Mom's avatar

My father used that exact phrase in teaching me about human relations: "You have to treat everyone the same," he said. Excellent advice that has stood me in good stead.

Bitsy54's avatar

More like Public Serpent

Karen Bandy's avatar

My 91 year old mother spat out this weekend, ā€˜she doesn’t even know what a woman is, get rid of her’.

Jpeach's avatar

What about Letitia James? There is a pattern here.

Dawn B's avatar

It doesn't matter what color of skin, when people get in high places, they get corrupt... or they get in high places because they are corrupt.

But.... because racism or anti-semitism seems to be an issue (not for me), they need to be extra careful to be an exemplary example. Sadly, most are not, and those who are, do not get the recognition they deserve. It is all about division instead.

Dana Hope's avatar

The pattern is : announce they are the first black/female/gay/trans…fill in the blank. Within 2 years that person has failed miserably at their job every time.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Or Kamala Harris???!!!! What about her?

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TCB's avatar

New term gaining traction online - ā€œnoticerā€

It means exactly what you think it means. Intended as a compliment

Michelle D's avatar

Right! And don't do your own research.

CStone's avatar

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Matt L.'s avatar

The Old Glory EO was unnecessary. Jeff, sure knows how to shine up a turd though.

🌱NardšŸ™'s avatar

That makes my head hurt.

JJ's avatar

Kentangi-gorilla is already becoming a loud black activist...

Very similar to Joy Reid in intellect and body odor.

Skenny's avatar

Showdown:

Government employee: "You can't fire me."

Trump: "You're fired."

SB's avatar

Did she miss the story about the other government employee who refused to leave so he was escorted out by police? If she goes that route, I don’t think she’ll find much sympathy from the masses. The other guy sure didn’t.

Willing Spirit's avatar

@ Skenny; Federal Judge: Trump is blocked from firing.

He’ll win in the end, but it seems like the Left still has plenty of Lawfare money.

CaplT's avatar

At least it’s not our money anymore, the USAID ho$e was turned off.

Willing Spirit's avatar

And thank God for that! I hope there’s checking to make sure there’s no leak.

Johnny-O's avatar

they aren't government employees

Chris (CSO)'s avatar

.... if they were appointed by elected government officials, then they are government employees. The word "appointed" is just a fancy word for "hired."

Johnny-O's avatar

The Fed isn't a federal entity. It is private - that's the problem.

Susie & Security's avatar

The Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve is considered a Federal agency. The 12 regional banks are not Federal. They operate semi-independently under the Board of Governors in DC. I used to work at one of banks.

Bard Joseph's avatar

It is controlled by bankers for their interest, not flag waving Americans. Wilson gave the country away.

Susie & Security's avatar

The secrecy of the initial meeting is also a dead giveaway.

The entire idea was concocted in secret on Jekyll Island, GA, in 1910 by a small group of influential bankers and government officials who traveled incognito, using only their first names.

Of the seven attendees, five *banks* were represented, along with the Chairman of the National Monetary Commission (Senate) and the Assistant Secretary of the Treasury.

PE Bird's avatar

So-called public/private. Whether it is Constitutional is an ongoing discussion. Trump forcing this question is as important as getting rid of a incompetent Governor (they really don't do that much anyway, except for the Governor of the Federal Reserve Bank of New York).

Dr Linda's avatar

With significant power

Susie & Security's avatar

Indeed. Too much power invested in a handful of unelected so-called "economists." Cook was a black activist, like Kamala, the half-black activist.

Beth's avatar

Like Obama, there's some debate about whether or not she, and he, are actually black. Her father seemed to deny it. And I still believe Obama is half Indonesian, not half black. That round headed Kenyan goatherder ain't his daddy. JMHO

Bard Joseph's avatar

Even allowed to burn the flag.

Peace's avatar

Could the Fed get any more complicated?

Peace's avatar

Who pays the Fed governor's salary? Do we know how much they make?

Chris (CSO)'s avatar

We pay them. Taxpayer funds through government payroll.

Bill Campbell's avatar

I do not know who is providing legal advice to President Trump and his team, but whoever he/she/they are, they are brilliant. It seems everything he is doing is so well thought out legally that it becomes impervious. Gets attacked, surely. But seems to prevail. Pure genius. Wonderful to watch.

Debra Jackson's avatar

Steven Miller comes to mind. He is brilliant! I enjoy listening to him articulate the fine points of a situation and the resultant law or EO to address the issue. Total MAGA!

JJ's avatar

A non-Zionist jew... refreshing.

DeAnna's avatar

Miller really is sexy smart!!! ā¤ļø

CaplT's avatar

His whole law firm.

CHop's avatar

The Heritage Foundation

CStone's avatar

And the Federslists

Robert McCluskey's avatar

TMW(TRUMP MOSTLY WINS)!

Based Florida Man's avatar

Looks like Fed Governor Lisa Cook's actual primary residence is Taco Bell.

Jeff S's avatar

Yeah, she's big enough to be the "counter."

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Well, she surely doesn't frequent the same restaurants as Claudia Gay.

Mike's avatar

Why is FAT always so easy to go to, I can't pass it up either. If she had Sydney Sweeneys' attritributes would she would be just as inappropriate for the job, just more fun to look at.

JJ's avatar

She has a bright future... on a Popeye's Fry-O-Lator...

Or doing Ozympic commercials.

Freedom Fox's avatar

I bet that hippo has some serious Taco Smell that surrounds it.

Delightful Designs's avatar

"Polydactyly?" I spit my tea on my keyboard again. :D

Trump gives people some rope and they string themselves up with it. It's an awesome type of manipulation.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

You're drinking tea??? Hey, this is coffee and covid.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Shhh, we tea drinkers try and keep a somewhat low profile, so as not to upset the black swill folks. Jeff has been kind enough to allow us to read alongside the coffee people. šŸ˜‚

Mrs. "the Knife"

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Matcha almond milk latte here.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Black swill? There'll be a lynchin' party ridin' out real soon. Go hide somewhere's my advice. An' take that teapiss with you.

CStone's avatar

Southern sweet-iced tea for breakfast every day since I turned 5…….no matter how cold it is outside

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Jeff is NOT going to change it to Tea & Covid.

C. Wilson's avatar

I drink tea, too. Apparently Mr. Childers doesn't mind. My "check cleared."

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

We may have to have a vote in the comments. I'm not sure. Could turn into a struggle session. Unless of course you're drinking Boston "Party" Tea.

C. Wilson's avatar

Rather than be voted out, I'll say it must be Boston party tea!

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

We have a long history of tea in my family - we have ancestors who were part of that little act of rebellion in a certain harbor in Boston.

Mrs. "the Knife"

C. Wilson's avatar

What fun it is when one person tells a little story and it reminds another of a story, which is then told. Makes the world nicer and I thank you. life is good.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

This has to be some sort of a violation…the nerve of drinking tea with the word ā€œcoffeeā€ staring at you the entire time…

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I love the smell, hate the taste. But it is okay, since Mr. "the Knife" drinks more than enough coffee for the both of us!

Mrs. "the Knife"

Delightful Designs's avatar

Green tea brewed up evil strong. All the caffeine none of the bad breath and stomach ache of coffee :D

I'm a rebel, live with it :D

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

You’re dead to me! šŸ˜„ Actually I enjoy tea, Earl grey is good or any of the bergamot types. Fruity teas are yum. But green tea is def an acquired taste! Maybe making it strong makes it less like you’re drinking tea made of hay??

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Y'all been watchin' too much Austin Powers, yo.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I’ve never seen them!

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Well, it has to be something.

Delightful Designs's avatar

Yes, it helps the flavor. Pour boiling water into tea leaves in a metal container, put it on the absolute lowest you can get a burner on your stove to do, let it stay scalding hot for at least 2 hours., up to 8. Doesn't taste like short brewed at 187 degrees tea at all.

I just decided it was the least toxic way to get my caffeine fix.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Huh. I’ve never heard of brewing tea this way, but if it makes it a little more exciting than the weak flavored water it can be I may just have to try it…

Delightful Designs's avatar

I also vote don't start with teabags, they are usually not good tea. I use loose gunpowder green eta, check a co-op or health food store, they'll have it. Get a bit, try it brewed like this. Won't taste like cheap green teabags at all.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Dang!! Got a wild one here. Better stock up on ammo.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Oy, the coffee breath!! A great thing about green tea is the EGCG in it. Great for boosting the immune system and it has anti-cancer properties, too!

Mrs. "the Knife"

SD Scott's avatar

Kombucha. Don’t knock it!

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Fermented tea used in the process of making a health beverage. Delicious. But not strictly "tea".

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I think Jeff needs to keep this column always titled ā€œCoffee & COVID.ā€ It kind of sounds vintage now…with covid seeming like it was a hundred years ago…

Dawn B's avatar

We must never forget what they did or it will become the fake history taught in schools now.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I’m not saying to forget it…it’s merely an observation of time passing and things that seemed in the forefront now seem so long ago even though they aren’t. The very idea of something vintage is not forgetting the past.

Dawn B's avatar

Sorry. I know you didn't mean forget it and it does seem a long time ago…

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Yeah, I know I will never forget it. It’s probably more imprinted in my memory then 9/11 now because it affected each and every one of us. Such evil.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Coffee & DEATHVAX ?

laura-ann Knox's avatar

Lol, to show the state of intelligence in the world. . . This morning with breakfast I ordered hot tea. She says "mint tea"? I said no, regular black tea, like Lipton. She brings me green teabags. I repeated my request for plain old black tea, so she brings me Earl Grey. Well, third time's a charm, she brought me English Breakfast.

I let my dining companion order my food for me.

Pre-Authorized's avatar

I’m pretty sure being free from financial fraud allegations is a federal contractor requirement. These people are straight criminals that got their jobs because of their willingness to BE criminals. Another SCOTUS opinion on this I guess…..

Liz LaSorte's avatar

I am No fan of Executive orders or the Executive Office that has had out of control growth since 1913 – a year that will live in infamy towards the death of our Constitutional Republic – while a do-nothing Congress allows the Executive to make ā€œlaws.ā€

But that said, it will take a while to right the ship, even halfway up.

And the biggest difference is that most of Trump’s Executive Orders will save taxpayer money, not spend more money, in contrast with Biden’s Executive Orders that spent a lot of taxpayer money: https://lizlasorte.substack.com/p/autopen-joe-signed-13-executive-orders?r=76q58

Jake's avatar

He uses them for traps sometimes. Cashless bail and flag burning now get the dems burning flags and defending putting repeat offenders on the streets. It's pretty brilliant if you think about it.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

Actually this was a two-fer. Trump has manipulated both Democrats and a number of otherwise reasonable conservatives into outing themselves as flag-burning radicals who encourage the commission of crimes on federal property. Democrats for Flag-burning. Not to mention being pro-violent criminal by supporting cashless bail.

Matt L.'s avatar

The flag burning EO was unnecessary. I’m a conservative, and a veteran. Had a chat with a blue collar 50-something guy yesterday at breakfast

in Eastern Washington. Salt of earth, 11-Bravo and Staff Sargent tattoos on his arms. He also felt the same. Feels like Trump had a couple of drinks and decided to punch himself in the face.

MaryAnn's avatar

DJT does not drink alcohol.

SD Scott's avatar

Couple of diet cokes?

Matt L.'s avatar

Yes, I know. Figure of speech only.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

You have been brainwashed by the legacy media, make no mistake, and salt of the earth has, too. Brainwashed and propagandized until your brains melted.

Matt L.'s avatar

No, I am not, Lydia. How you came to this conclusion is beyond me. Are you too deep in a cult to see straight? I’m a 3x Trump voter. I’m also a very free thinker, Gen X. I can ā€˜see’ how this will play out, and it’s not good for MAGA. Try not to be so knee jerk reflexive when someone from your side disagrees. That’s what the D party does when one of their own doesn’t toe the line.

Liz LaSorte's avatar

Yeah, I get that but it could be a slippery slope. Banning flag burning is unAmerican in spirit.

Lynne Morris's avatar

He did not ban burning the American flag. He at most recognized that it can be used as an incitement to riot and/or violence, which is already illegal. I think maybe it is to set up a challenge to the burning Pride flags is a hate crime statutes. It is ludicrous that some flags are protected is it not?

Sue Kelley's avatar

It's more like a hate crime enhancement. And it points out the ridiculousness of prosecuting people for walking on pride crosswalks and burning pride flags

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Like the guy in Iowa who received a 17 year (!!!) prison sentence yesterday, for burning a pride flag ripped down from.a "church."

Liz LaSorte's avatar

Agreed but the EO indirectly does ban burning the flag via state/local laws: "(b) In cases where the Department of Justice or another executive department or agency (agency) determines that an instance of American Flag desecration may violate an applicable State or local law, such as open burning restrictions, disorderly conduct laws, or destruction of property laws, the agency shall refer the matter to the appropriate State or local authority for potential action."

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

But the EO also includes the mention of the SCOTUS free speech decision. There’s nothing new in this EO other than Trump’s finding another way to entrap Dems (and conservatives) who failed to read it. Clearly, all he is doing is nailing down a huge midterm win with every nail he can find. Brilliant strategy. He’s sending the Trump haters into paroxysms of insanity which is one of the easiest things ever.

Matt L.'s avatar

I’m not a Trump hater and the Old Glory EO is stupid.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

This sounds like you can still burn it but not when violating these other laws/restrictions/etc. that are already in place. I. e: ā€œopen burning restrictionsā€ we get these every summer which basically says you can’t use a Firepit, or open fire somewhere or burn your bonfire because it’s too dry. Makes sense you can’t burn something that is probably polyester/cotton and will ignite other areas. The EO is simply to draw attention to laws already in place. Jeff details this in the article today.

To me, those who think of burning the flag of their country, already forfeit any sort of respect or frankly rights related to it. What does it even accomplish? Are they trying to right the wrongs they supposedly are furious about? Or are they just desecrating the symbol of the country that actually gives them the freedom to burn that symbol and accomplishing nothing? It shocks no one to burn a flag, we’ve all seen it before. But it does infuriate those who hold this country dear and make us not want to listen to their ā€œgrievances.ā€ It should never have been allowed to be ā€œfreedom of speech.ā€ Our forefathers would be aghast that we allowed it.

Matt L.'s avatar

The problem is how the EO will play out on the street. It will come across as Trump criminalized the burning of the American flag. I fully expect there will be those from the Right who will now burn the flag as a middle finger to Executive who appears to be curbing 1st Amendment protection under SCOTUS, 1989. Whether you like it or not, the MAGA tent contains a fair amount of those with Libertarian leanings. The Right being goaded into burning Old Glory is not good.

Lynne Morris's avatar

I think worrying overly about the optics can be used to excuse inaction when action is called for. I think we have seen a lot of that among Republicans in the post-Obama years. So I find Trump a breath of fresh air who calls them as he sees them. And walks it back when needed. And I am one of those MAGAs who leans libertarian. Plus Trump's EO does not attempt to change existing law so I think it may be a ploy to stimulate conversation about why it is a hate crime to burn a Pride flag or a "Palestine" flag but hunky dory to burn an American flag. FWIW I love my country and respect my flag but I think there are better battles to fight. But I think it is likewise free speech to burn other flags.

Matt L.'s avatar

I fly my flag daily here in Blue Oregon. I’m a proud American, vet, etc. I just don’t think this particular EO was a good idea. It gives fuel to Left that we should not give them. That’s my take.

Jake's avatar

That's what the Trumpster is counting on.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Burning an American flag is un-American by the very act. Also, he didn’t ban it.

Matt L.'s avatar

Trump's own messaging did not correctly describe the EO. It's his messaging that causes so much damage. I still think he needs to get a whole lot better. When he does this shit, all he does is push people who are on the fence to the other side.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

And I don’t disagree with you, I just get tired of hearing it. If someone hasn’t learned to work with Trump in all his foibles by now, it’s not likely to happen.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

That’s why you do your own research. Even if Trump was eloquent, you still do your own research. I think the people who going to get upset or misinterpret Trump are going to do it regardless of his messaging. We can’t win them all and they can live in their own pool of misery…

Merry McIntyre's avatar

What? Burning Old Glory is NOT about free speech. It is an ACT of desecration & hatred toward our country. No speech involved. Treason?? Burning bras is ok though. 😜

CStone's avatar

Yes. I will gladly give up my bras for the cause!!!!

Lynne Morris's avatar

Many acts are given first amendment protection. Holding a sign for example or giving a middle finger salute.

Dena's avatar

Agree - EO’s not the best route, but currently they are are the only route to begin to right the ship, given the great divide ( & crazy) in politics. EO’s focused on solving problems for everyday people, executed well, will result in better daily life experiences for many ( like safer DC neighborhoods). Eyes will be opened to the importance of law & order, & some hope will be revived.

Peace's avatar

However, the EOs only exist until there is a turn of leadership. Push for making lots of these into laws!!

Padrig's avatar

Burn Rights: Who knew the Constitution protected us from the government overreach of preventing our God given right to burn stuff in the street? Where I live, the fascist dictators prevent us from burning trash in our own yards. Now we know that we can just take it to the more reasonable and constitutionally observant "blue" places and burn it in the street while shouting FREEDOM!

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Just burn a flag with stuff you want to burn and it’s all good. You can say you were using the other stuff as fuel to get the flag burning…

shayne's avatar

Good morning everyone. It's unseasonably cool here this morning, and I'm not complaining. šŸ˜‚

Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You guys are all unseasonably cool this morning..and that's no comment on the weather.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah the comments section is particularly hilarious this morning! šŸ˜†

Jamison's avatar

Same in my little town in KY. Preview of fall.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Here too in Central Oregon. But it was in the upper 90’s a few days ago and there was a horrible fire. Portland and Seattle are still hot 🄵

This weekend I was at my elderly parents in Washington trying to figure out what’s wrong with him (my guess, overmedicated) and apparently they don’t turn the thermostat below 77. I was dying! 🤣

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Are you close to the Flat fire? There was rain on it recently and it’s fully lined. Plus ODF is on it, so it’ll be out before the two weeks are up!

Karen Bandy's avatar

We’re maybe 20 miles away but some friends live on the east side of Sisters and the fire raged up the canyon on either side of their home, and air tankers saved it!!! Truly a miracle.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Yes! I think there were about 10 homes that were lost, but so many get saved too. The aircraft are something else to watch. Those pilots are probably the most skilled, fearless pilots in the world. The conditions and flying what is essentially a retired passenger airliner they make it look easy.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I had been away Saturday and Sunday so I hadn’t seen any info so when I thought to call another mutual friend and heard the story, I immediately called my husband and I totally choked up. Funny how it takes a few to sink in.

Re: the pilots. And here I thought bush pilots in Alaska were amazing. It must have been so scary flying those tankers through that gorge.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I hadn’t heard about the 10 homes. So sad for those folks. I saw a dead red fox on the road by Warm Springs and told my husband about it and he remarked that it was probably fleeing the fires. 😄

Side note, I’ve never seen a live or dead one before.

Leo's avatar

Verrrry dangerous!

Matt L.'s avatar

I drove through gorge yesterday going west from Eastern WA and it was super hazy from the wildfires. Near Mosier, there are still a lot of burned out foundations from that previous fire. Hope Flat Fire spares homes in C. Oregon.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes, it was hazy. Hot in Western Washington Monday but by the time I hit Sandy I saw that it was 82. It had been 102 Saturday on my way up. Crazy. I had a little rain around Warm Springs.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

It was just very sunny hear with raindrops coming down! Crazy weather. Just let the rain come already will ya! šŸ˜„

shayne's avatar

That seems to be a thing with elderly people. I suppose they feel the cold more acutely than younger folk.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Probably loss of muscle mass, and maybe fat loss too causes them to be colder. He’s so thin now, my dad was kinda hunky with big calves and broad shoulders.

Karen Bandy's avatar

I never even think of bone marrow, sounds possible.

SD Scott's avatar

Bone marrow, too, I assume, since it’s where the red blood cells are made.

Double Mc's avatar

Even SC is cool this morning! I slept with my windows open last night. Pure bliss.

MCN's avatar

Ain’t it great!

Saylor Sherman's avatar

I wish. Another hot bright sunny day here in south Florida.

Lori's avatar

Give me SFL anytime!

Jeff S's avatar

You can have it! Er, would you like to buy some property on the coast?

CStone's avatar

We got news that the gulf coast beaches are covered in human fecal matter being washed up on the beaches.

(Did John Jerry’s yacht offload his sewage in the gulf?)

shayne's avatar

šŸ˜µā€šŸ’«

Dawn B's avatar

Me too! Minus the traffic and rude people and crime...

JJ's avatar

AZ sucks bigly.

RunningLogic's avatar

Oh same here!! I’m loving it because running in the heat and humidity for so long was killing me 😩

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Good morning, shayne! It is 63 degrees at 0700 here in the PNW, South Puget Sound area. Since we have aging mamas to keep cool, I have been checking the temps for the week, and it is mostly 80s but tipping over into the low 90s here and there. There is a red "Heat Advisory!" from The Weather Service! Good grief!

It will be nice to have it cool off, but that means in short order there will be rain and clouds for the next 8-9 months. šŸ˜‚

Mrs. "the Knife"

LB's avatar

July through mid-October (typically) are simply glorious in western WA, aren’t they?šŸ˜ We get asked about summer travel plans, but why would we go anywhere during those months? It’s the best right here!😃

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

We used to say, "don't tell anyone what the weather is like in the summer, 'cause then they will move here. Just tell them it rains all the time!"

Mrs. "the Knife"

P.S. People moved here anyway, and brought their politics with them. :-(

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I was trying to keep a couple places in Oregon secret but somehow the secret gets out. *%%!#^! Internet!!!

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

It always does! One of my favorite scenes from the movie Maverick with Mel Gibson as Maverick and Graham Greene as Joseph:

Scene: Looking out at a beautiful vista of lake, meadow, and mountain:

Maverick:

Oh, you sure do pick the spots.

Joseph:

Yeah, I know. You know the next time you people come and drive us off our land I'm gonna find a nice piece of swamp that's so God-awful, maybe then you'll leave us the hell alone.

Seems apropos of the Pacific Northwest.

Mrs. "the Knife"

shayne's avatar

šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

shayne's avatar

🤣🤣

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Rain and clouds = Best. Weather. Ever.

When you are a native PNW-er, sun becomes boring and way too hot. Bring on the dreary!!

Leo's avatar

Yes...but it is always so green and beautiful there.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Yes, and I learned the hard way one needs lots of rain to keep everything green. We lived in Denver for a couple of years; it did not start to green up until the middle of May and by the end of June it was already brown again. I loved how many sunny days there were in Denver but it comes at a cost: brown most of the year, and bad smells because you need rain to wash all the smell out of the air. I didn't realize how much I love the smell of green, growing plants until I lived in Denver!

Mrs. "the Knife"

shayne's avatar

Rain and clouds, sound like my childhood. Walking to school in my raincoat and gumboot. šŸ˜‚

Jeff S's avatar

70° already here in EA WA. I'm typing this while sitting in the freezer.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Was at my folks in Western Washington, apparently they don’t believe in air conditioning 🄵I was dying, it was humid too.

LB's avatar

It’s very rare for anyone in Western WA to have AC. There just aren’t enough scorching hot days to justify having it. But…on those days, we sure curse the heat (as I sit here with 3 fans running).šŸ˜…

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Back in June 2021, during that "heat dome" we experienced, when for 4 days we broke records each day for heat, I received a call from my SIL who lives in Phoenix. That day it was 114 degrees at my house (S. Puget Sound area). She asked how we were doing, I said we were sweltering in the heat and humidity. She said, "Well at least you have air conditioning". I laughed and said, "No, only the rich people have a/c!" We go through this cycle every summer, when we have a couple of weeks of hot weather we think we really should get a/c, then it cools off, and we think, well, maybe next year. šŸ˜‚

To be fair, most houses built around here in the last 10-15 years do have a/c, but the prices they are asking for these houses is ridiculous.

Mrs. "the Knife"

Matt L.'s avatar

4 years on, and my rhododendrons here in W. Oregon have finally ā€˜healed’ from that 2021 scorcher. Leaves were blackened that summer but finally grew out.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Matt, all the trees' westward facing foliage was scorched a deep orange. The evergreens looked "ever-orange" for about a year. Our rhodies were shaded by trees in our yard and the neighbor's yard, so they were fine. The crabapple tree, however... let's just say the wood pile increased!

I was noticing today as I was driving back for my sister's just how many mature evergreens are showing quite a bit of orange - I wonder how much of it is residual damage from 2021?

Mrs. "the Knife"

Leo's avatar

Increase watering.

Willing Spirit's avatar

114 degrees! And no AC! Well, I grew up in the Florida Panhandle without AC, where above 100 degree days were not uncommon. But no 114 degrees! Maybe you have lower humidity.

We lived in a ā€˜Cracker’ house, built around 1900, with 12, if not 15, foot ceilings. My grandparents’ house. Originally the kitchen had been a separate detached building, primarily so if it caught fire, the entire house wouldn’t burn-but that would have served to keep the house cooler as well.

An open breezeway ran down the entire length of the house with rooms opening into it.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Willing Spirit, we generally have lower humidity then the Midwest and Southeast, but it tends to be around 60-something. For instance, yesterday the temperature hit around 88 degrees at our house, with a humidity level of 63%. So, hot AND muggy for people who are used to that nice on-shore flow from the Pacific!

Mrs. "the Knife"

Karen Bandy's avatar

Oh, they have it! Won’t set it below 77! 🄓 We actually had little private wars going on. I would get it down to 74 and next thing I knew it was 77 again. Mom was hot too. He finally put on an athletic jacket (like a hoodie but without the hood). Poor old guy, has lost a ton of weight.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I had no choice but to turn my a/c up this summer. Electric bills in PA are killing us.

shayne's avatar

Us too, Kathleen.

Jeff S's avatar

You should go to a baseball stadium. It's cool. There's a fan in every seat.

LB's avatar

Haha!šŸ˜…

Akkkshually, we are going to the Mariner game tonight.😁

(Doubt there will be fan in every seat thoughā€¦šŸ¤”)

Jeff S's avatar

Have fun. I'm streaming on computer. M's are good this year.

shayne's avatar

We share the same birthday... šŸ˜‚

Peace's avatar

Did you celebrate your birthday in good fashion yesterday?

Jeff S's avatar

Yes. One lemonade, one beer, one water. Party of six. However, the venue for dancing and singing closed early because it was Monday, so I'm going to try to go there tonight. A day late, several dollars short. Thanks for asking!

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Oh my word. šŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø Dad jokes galore!

Jeff S's avatar

They must live in "cook" county...

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Jeff, you have us beat by a few degrees, but you usually do, both directions of the thermometer. It got up over 90 degrees yesterday in parts of Western WA, with 63% humidity. I sat my mama in front of the fan all day yesterday as the freezer was full! šŸ˜‚

Mrs. "the Knife"

Jeff S's avatar

Good luck with your mom. When it gets too hot and humid outside here, I go inside to the coffee shops, the library, or the hockey arena at the university.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

She has spent a good part of the last couple of weeks out at my sister's, who does have A/C. The caveat being that she helped my sister put up all the canning: peaches, pears, blueberries, tomatos, and other things I have forgotten.

šŸ˜‚

Mrs. "the Knife"

Jo Ann's avatar

It’s raining in the desert. Hallelujah

FreeBird07's avatar

Where? I'm patiently waiting for a thunderstorm in Vegas - currently 85 and humid - 20 degree drop from this past weekend.

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

50 at 7 this am. SE Pa.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

52°F here in Central Minnesnowta.

Kiara Sands's avatar

It’s our false fall. Don’t worry it’ll come raging back probably 90° and 100% humidity.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I heard mid-Sept the heat comes back. Booooooo….

Donna Oliphint's avatar

Even here in middle Alabama the temps this week will be in the 60’s at night and only reach the mid 80’s during the day! Y’all, it’s still August! Somebody’s definitely messing with our weather.

Politico Phil's avatar

We came THAT close! (Wake me up when the all clear is given.) ...................................................................................................

Jack Smith Was Planning to Try Thousands of Trump Supporters in Televised Show Trials

THE MID-PANDEMIC DISAPPEARANCES OF DISSIDENTS DURING THE COMMUNIST GREAT RESET OF AMERICA WERE TO BE ACCELERATED BY THESE JACK SMITH SOVIET SHOW TRIALS.

On Sunday, Alex Jones said that he'd had a long and utterly mind-blowing conversation on Saturday night with Special Prosecutor Ed Martin, saying that he'd taken 15 pages of notes.

It was the first time that I've seen Alex Jones dumbstruck and at a total loss for words.

Alex said Ed Martin revealed around 30 major stories that he would work together with his news staff to release as soon as possible with supporting documentation and to present in such a way as to hopefully stay out of any more trouble than he is in, already.

Then, Alex teased a brief tidbit about how Ed Martin's team was given access to all of former Special Prosecutor Jack Smith's communications.....

https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/jack-smith-was-planning-to-try-thousands

Lydia Lozano's avatar

Wow. Cold chills. Jack Smith needs to go away for a long time.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

I was just about to post this. It's chilling to think that this could be where we were heading!

RunningLogic's avatar

Chilling but ultimately not that surprising imo šŸ˜•

Merry McIntyre's avatar

This is incredibly disturbing & this Substack is a must read. Looking forward to Alex’ reveal. Thanks for posting this, PP!

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I’ve wondered this too. He seems so chipper all the time and his mind is so sharp but when does he sleep??!!

Willing Spirit's avatar

There has to be divine assistance there. It’s just not humanly possible.

Not because Trump is so holy, but because God has such a purpose for him.

I’m sure God would have picked someone holier if he could have found one that wasn’t so ā€˜heavenly minded that they were no earthly good’. I think the job calls for someone who’ll get their hands dirty and Trump is willing.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I agree. There is no way he’s doing what he’s doing without God nudging things here and there. Perhaps he’s getting his energy from Him as well…it’s entirely possible…def don’t think Trump is holy by any means, but he probably is the best tool. And perhaps Butler made him aware and willing to be that instrument to God.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Throughout the Old Testament, God uses many, less than holy, individuals; like Sampson, Gideon, Saul, even David failed hugely.

When the rubber hits the road, except for the prophets perhaps, all their stories have episodes of rather unholy acts.

King Cyrus of Persia initiated and funded the return of the captive Israelites back to Israel.

Jacquijacq's avatar

He is like T A Edison - just a few hours a night. Good for him!!!

WP William's avatar

Rudi Giuliani the same...4-4.5 hrs sleep a night all he needs, per interview a few years back

Kathy's avatar

It worries me.

Andrew Devlin's avatar

As far as cashless bail goes, if they had it in my younger days, I probably wouldn’t be here for my older days.

I got in a lot of trouble during my teenage years, all stemming from my alcohol and drug use. Mom bailed me out the first time but, thanks to the influence of her AlAnon friends, she said ā€œlet him rotā€ from then on.

I was held accountable for my actions and it led me to become clean and sober before my 21st birthday.

I had a vision or dream after my last arrest, call it my Ebenezer Scrooge moment only it wasn’t a ghost I saw, I saw my future and it was one of jails, hospitals, and early death, nothing good. I quit drinking that day!

Had the justice system and my dear mother treated me with the kid gloves that today’s criminals are treated, I would probably have died long ago!

Freedom Fox's avatar

Yes, about that cashless bail. I actually worked against legislation that would've brought cashless bail to my state back in the early 2010's - with Dog the Bounty Hunter making rounds with my team to visit with legislators. He and his wife had their camera crew in the Capitol, first day it was kind of cool, by days 2-3 it got old and intrusive - we were trying to work without being in a traveling circus.

But the interesting and *now* unsurprising thing about it was the bill sponsor was known as a very "conservative" legislator with designs on becoming State Attorney General. AND...he was carrying the cashless bail bill for a group funded by George Soros, who also was making campaign donations to the "conservative" legislator.

It's been a bipartisan sellout of America for a long time. Even by "conservative" lawmakers. Who will target MAGA/Trump with lawfare but give a pass to D's/Rino's.

And for any curious readers, I made sure the Soros-bought "conservative" legislator running for state AG didn't make it out of state GOP convention as a primary candidate, he had to petition his way on the ballot, and lost. Let's just say I had some pull in the state party at the time to make sure enough knew he was a Soros puppet in conservative clothing.

Andrew Devlin's avatar

I think we have a lot of liberal republicans here in SC government. We’re supposedly a very conservative state but I don’t think we live up to that.

When my drug addicted son held 125 police officers, 3 SWAT teams, and the FBI at bay in my condo for 8 hours, forcing the evacuation of several buildings, he was charged with 6 serious felonies and one low level felony. I wrote the DA, urging him to go tough on Patrick. Getting tough on young criminals is the surest way to prevent them from becoming lifelong criminals! It worked for me over 50 years ago in NYC when I believe my mother convinced them to throw the book at me, perhaps it would work for him?

My request was ignored and he was allowed to plead guilty to a low level crime and out in 16 months.

Two years later, when he rightfully should have still been incarcerated, he died of an overdose.

A truly conservative justice system would have been much tougher and he might still be with us. We’ll never know!

Peace's avatar

Andrew - this is so heartbreaking to hear about your son! Thank you for sharing your story of coming up from your ashes. I hadn't thought about this angle of the cashless bail - saving people from themselves to give them time to form better life choices.

Andrew Devlin's avatar

Thank you for your kind words. It just wish the criminal justice system would recognize the value of a firm hand with young criminals to deter them from becoming hardened criminals.

Claire L May's avatar

So sorry you went through that, Andrew. My heart aches for you! I know it happened a long time ago, but I sure appreciate you contributing your story today. I wish there was a way for people outside of C & C to see what you wrote, so important. Thankyou for sharing this today.

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It doesn't take Sherlock's avatar

Some thoughts:

1. Checking through my U.S. Constitution, pocket edition, I know the Fed isn't under the Court (Judicial). I know it isn't filled with House and Senate personnel (Legislative). Hmm. So that leave the Executive. I know the Fed isn't directly elected. Only one of two conclusions. If it is "Fed" it is under Executive. If it isn't "Fed" (which it really isn't), then it doesn't get to set national economic policy, so it can be ignored. Trump should turn to his Secretary of Treasury and just say, "You set the rate for the government bonds". Of course it will create a bankster panic. Time to get it over with.

2. You can't blame Biden for Cook. He thought he was nominating his buddy CornPop. Both names start with "Co" and he fell asleep after getting that far into the name. ;-)

3. Democrats like "cashless". Cashless food (SNAP!), cashless merchandise(looting), cashless housing(squatting), cashless cars(car-jacking). They're just being consistent.

4. Just say it. Britt Hume, another person we had for a long time assumed thought before he spoke, apparently didn't read the EO before opining.

5. Don't hold your breath on the House Republicans doing anything with the info sent over from DOJ. Too many "2nd and 3rd degree of separation" with people in the files and donors/reps. Plus, you can be sure the key 'burn bags' for Epstein were actually burned this time. Just get it all out NOW, so when some Reps are found to be too dirty, decent people can primary them.

Debra Jackson's avatar

#3 is brilliant and true! Good one!

RunningLogic's avatar

Great post but this one made me 🤣🤣🤣

ā€”ā€œYou can't blame Biden for Cook. He thought he was nominating his buddy CornPop. Both names start with "Co" and he fell asleep after getting that far into the name. ;-) ā€œ

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Fed Governor Lisa Cook to President Trump: "Do you know who I am?".

Girl on the move's avatar

Like that gal in Jersey yelling ā€œI’m an AG!ā€ ā€œI’m an FG!ā€ 🤣

Jacquijacq's avatar

Rhode Island - Newport to be exact

Lori's avatar

Yes, the poster child for DEI and an ahole. Any more questions?

Jeff S's avatar

Trump: "Lisa, I can see you right now in the kitchen, bending over a hot stove. But I can't see the stove."

SB's avatar

Yea, misplaced, that’s who you are. I hear Taco Bell is hiring, that’d be a good fit.

John Galt?'s avatar

Inducement to commit political suicide is something Trump is exceedingly good at. Take any issue that has languished on the sidelines and put it in the headlines. Just watch the mail-in voting kerfuffle. Once a fringe convenience issue for nursing homes and military personnel, it was turned into a supposed constitutional right. What never happens in the debate is, well, a debate. The media keeps the stories in line, crying racism as their default go-to. Now, the debate will happen in Truth posts and executive orders that will beget lawsuits and public debate. People will have to defend it. Add voter ID to the mix. Public polling shows an overwhelming majority support it, and those who oppose it have very weak arguments. "Minorities can't get photo ID's" will not cut it. The eager participants in all of those cruise ship brawls all had to show a photo ID to board the boat. Many flew to the port to begin with, another racist display of photo IDs. And if they had a stuffy nose, they used their photo ID to buy Sudafed at CVS. Openly debating these points used to be hard. Not anymore. Let's fight.

Kathy's avatar

During his presidential run, Kennedy proposed that we allow the post office to issue a free, paper, government photo ID. This would take away all the excuses.

Willing Spirit's avatar

For those who missed the Carnival Cruise story- this brawling is not uncommon. Happens wherever they gather. If one wonders why certain folks seem to have easy money for cruises and such…if one’s living expenses were largely covered by the government, there would be spending money a lot of us don’t have. (Reparations have been happening for decades, but still they want those millions per man, woman and child).

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/?s=Brawl+on+Carnival+Cruise

Roman S Shapoval's avatar

The only criminal on the streets of Washington is the government.

Valerie's avatar

I don’t think that’s all of them…

Lori's avatar

That's changing real quick. TAW.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Controlled by the Fed.

-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Ehhhh…not quite…