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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

So now, O kings, show insight;

Take warning, O judges of the earth.

Serve Yahweh with fear

And rejoice with trembling.

Kiss the Son, lest He become angry, and you perish in the way,

For His wrath may soon be kindled.

How blessed are all who take refuge in Him!

— Psalm 2:10-12 LSB

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Bonnie Ferguson's avatar

Janice, I always look forward to seeing which Scripture verses you will bring to the comments. When the weird events of 2020 started, I took refuge in the Word of God. I memorized a lot of Scripture when I was a kid, but it gets harder as you get older! Feeling a need for the Word, I asked the Lord if He would give me the power to memorize again. He did! So, at 50 years old I am faithfully hiding the Word in my heart once again. So Thankful!!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

There was a Christian songwriter and performer, Steve Green, who developed a series of CD's directed at "'hiding the Scriptures in your heart through SINGING the verses". Many Sunday schools used these CD's in their classes--IT WORKS! I'll see if I can find those CD's on YouTube! FOUND THEM - here they are on YOUTUBE (one blessing of this Google offering to the world)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9DkquMAVlaY

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Bonnie Ferguson's avatar

Thank you, Sharon! This is just what I've been looking for to help my youngest daughter memorize verses! She retains things differently than I do, and I think music will make the words "stick" for her.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I learned about Steve Green's "Hide em in your heart" CD's through a radio pastor's broadcast - he had Steve on his program quite often and I LOVED the idea. MUSIC is a MUST to get us through life without MEDS!! I'd much rather SING and LAUGH myself healthy!!

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Dana Thynes's avatar

Here is a site that focuses on setting Bible verses to music, with free downloads of the sheet music. There are also traditional hymns & Christmas carols. https://www.singthebiblestory.com/

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Peter GL's avatar

my father used to quote a few verses of the Psalms, his favorite being Psalm 6. He had learned those as a child, a century ago, and kept them to his old age.

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Bonnie Ferguson's avatar

Dana! Thanks so much for sharing this resource. I was wanting sheet music more than audio, so we can make our own book and sing around the piano . This is great!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

God tells us to sing songs regarding many things He wants us to memorize. The Song of Moses is one of the first He tells us to for SURE memorize. Type in “KJV Song” and read the verses that come up. It’s fascinating.

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Raptor's avatar

When my mom was dying I sang hymns, Bible camp songs, verses strung together, prayers... It calmed my mind when she was out of her mind and hard to deal with (God rest her soul). It also soothed my mom. She was not a Christian, but would stop screaming or raving when I would sing. It was a blessing.

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Miss Teacup's avatar

I just read the other day that Queen Elizabeth referred to the sung psalms as Geneva Gigs because they were so energetic. That was probably before the Calvinism took hold....

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

How interesting - because my guy friend, Jeff, just bought me a Geneva Bible as my "non secular" Christmas present. I am having a difficult time with reading the "olde English" though. I'll have to pray for Divine "intervention", I believe--LOL!!

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Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

The lovely Naomi Wolf is reading it aloud (slowly) at her substack, https://naomiwolf.substack.com/. It is amazing and wonderful.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I know--I've listened to some of those podcasts and I joined the DailyClout movement earlier this year. Dr. Naomi is a 180 degree turnaround from what she espoused to believe (politically) in her "younger years". God moves in mysterious ways His wonders to perform!!

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Miss Teacup's avatar

What a fine present!! Maybe it's like reading Shakespeare. After awhile, if you don't let yourself get bogged down with frustration, a rhythm establishes itself and the meaning emerges. Not entirely, of course, but enough to be able to follow. Oh! Now I want a Geneva Bible too!! 😂

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Jeff bought a very large, heavy version of it - but he said there are a great many "styles" of the Geneva Bible online--HAPPY "WORD" SHOPPING, M.T.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh love this idea!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It WORKS - spread this info to the C & C Group--it will help ALL OF US to be better CHRISTIAN WARRIORS!! HIDE THE WORD and SPREAD THE WORD!!

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Jean Mac's avatar

Check out the Psalms from Poor Bishop Hooper

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

What a beautiful couple and what a ministry (and dedication to it!). I'm listening to The Golgotha Experience right now--have you heard it, Jean?

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Jean Mac's avatar

Not yet. Our pastor just shared about them recently. I’ve listened to some Psalms but haven’t had a chance to really do a deep dive yet. I want to start learning the Psalms one by one; I tend to start humming when I get busy at work and I have tried to use sacred music for that.

Apparently they are local to me.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Did you know the history of why they named their group as they did, Jean--it's VERY important! Got it from their website.... https://www.poorbishophooper.com/whats-with-the-name

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Karen Cudzilo's avatar

Thank you for this blast from the past !

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm trusting we will all be SINGING PSALMS to the Lord Jesus Christ each and every day. THROW OFF THE DOOM & GLOOM, my friends. THE BATTLE BELONGS TO THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and we are his "erstwhile" troops!

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Pug's avatar

And Jesus Christ won that battle and the entire spiritual war the day he was born here on Earth. No matter what happens, God has already won. We who believe in God and Jesus have already won. This Christmas season is to remind us of this Joy!

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Paige Dinsmore's avatar

In the early days of the Jesus Movement at Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa, we sang literal KJV Bible verses. It's a great way to memorize scriptures.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I pray we have a JESUS MOVEMENT right now!!

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Bonnie Ferguson's avatar

I taught an after-school class (Child Evangelism Fellowship) for 3 years and we often sang the memory verses. These are the ones my kids still remember!

Since I usually memorize long passages, I can't really make use of the music. The most amazing gift the Lord gave me recently was to help me commit the entire book of Revelation to memory. Epic! "Blessed is he who reads, and those who hear the word of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written in it: for the time is near."

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Raptor's avatar

Whoa! Handy and impressive.

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I feel like when I try to memorize something that I have peanut butter for brains. 🤣Maybe because not only have I had way too many doctors fishing around up there and I’m sleep deprived, but 61 is just right over there👉🏻…😵‍💫😮Sounds like a pile of excuses right there!

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Cyn's avatar

Our traits of wit, sarcasm and humor also stem from our divine likeness to God. Different ears hear messages of truth delivered in a variety of ways. From the new awakening of Covidiots to using a spoof interview based on what many believe is a revealing piece of entertainment via a series, God works through his instruments revealing his truth in many ways. Praise his infinite wisdom and power!

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I agree except for sarcasm, which has a negative connotation. It is probably cleverness with a dark twist, which can't be from God.

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CStone's avatar

I disagree. Sarcasm is one of the best tools in the toolkit. Yeshua was using sarcasm when a woman not of Israel begged Him to heal her daughter ”And behold, a Canaanite woman from that district came out and started shouting, “Have mercy on me, O Master, Ben-David! My daughter is severely tormented by a demon.” But He did not answer her a word. And when His disciples came, they were urging Him, saying, “Send her away, because she keeps shouting at us.” But He responded, “I was sent only to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.” So she came and got down on her knees before Him, saying, “Master, help me!” And answering, He said, “It’s not right to take the children’s bread and throw it to the dogs.” But she said, “Yes, Master, but even the dogs eat the crumbs that fall from their masters’ table.” Then answering, Yeshua said to her, “O woman, great is your faith! Let it be done for you as you wish.” And her daughter was healed in that very hour.“

‭‭Matthew‬ ‭15‬:‭22‬-‭28‬ ‭TLV‬‬

I can just picture Him with a sparkle of delight in His eyes that He was having an impact on one of the Goyim. Teasing her kindly with sarcasm, then delighting in her answer and healing her daughter. He used sarcasm in dealing with the ‘religious’ people who had stamped out the fire in His people.

I don’t see sarcasm as dark, but as a weapon with which to fight darkness. And Jeff Childers wields it like an anointed sword, imho. I wish I could use sarcasm more effectively

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Although Yahweh's wit cannot be "dark" - it is indeed overpowering to our finite minds...so bless the sarcasm--it bids us to "flee to the Father" and His gracious, omnipotent Way!!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

cleverness with a dark twist is sarcasm, it is often appropriate!

Please do not opine on what "cannot be from God"

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Cyn's avatar

Everything is from and of God, originally...or the universe and its infinitude has more than one creator?

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Evil didn’t come from Him.

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Raptor's avatar

To clarify. Evil is not a created thing. It is the absence of good. All his good created things are given the choice: Him (the ultimate perfect personification of good) or to turn from Him (like Lucifer and a third of the angels did).

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Kelly's avatar

I love a sarcastic wit! Apparently, I am evil, even tho born again. Thanks for your endless wisdom, janice. 🙄

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Gram's avatar

sarcasm from Latin = torn flesh

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Is it possible that a person's heart determines whether what she says is dark or not? Refraining from sarcasm and opting for a "nicer" kind of humor could be indicative of a whitewashed sepulchre.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I’ve always been a bit sarcastic in humor. The rest of the family gaslit me constantly, it was a defense mechanism to survive.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Oh, I cab relate to that, being the only insider that was outside. Lying and gaslighting -- are they the same? Sarcasm is like any other speaking. It can be mean, affectionate, or just pointed. Humor can mitigate the sting of what you're saying. As you say, it can be an appropriate defense.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Sarcasm means “to tear flesh.” Is that Christian? Have at it!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Well circumcision is torn flesh, Christ's flesh was torn by His Crown, the flogging, the nails, the spear. Peter's flesh was torn as he was crucified upside down (by traditional report); Steven's flesh was torn by his stoning, Need I go on?

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Paige Dinsmore's avatar

Sarc (flesh)-chasm.... gashing the flesh. When this form of humor is directed at an individual, it is damaging, and intended to harm by devaluation, thus not 'godly'... When it is used to make a point about that is something utterly absurd or phony, then, it can certainly be a useful illuminating tool.

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Susan Clack's avatar

I am running to the shelter of His stronghold...to huddle under His wings like a baby duckling...the Fox (prowling lion/enemy) is looking to devour us and I am NOT gonna be on that menu! Thank you, Janice, for your faithful finds in the Good Book that uplift me on a daily basis!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Now there is something that always seems to get glossed over: "Kiss the Son...For His wrath may soon be kindled..." How many times has a sermon focused on this side of Christ? I gotta say, the Psalms are my favorite Scriptures.

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Yes, He is love, but not ONLY love. If He was loving but not just, He wouldn't be loving. And on and on with all of His attributes. He is all of them all the time.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I am reminded that, as a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ, my "parenting" of my children was focused on the "right thinking" of the Lord Jesus Christ and also His indignation and righteous anger at the selfishness, greed and viciousness of the fallen human condition. My children (now in their 50's) told me I was a "loving" mother and also "stern". At first, I was taken aback...but after I thought about it...I realized that YES...that's exactly the parent I "aimed" to be!! THANK YOU, LORD JESUS, for your perfect example of how we should fulfill every "life mission".

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

There you are - I missed your Scripture lately (of course, I haven't been "on" this platform every day as I was earlier in my C & C participation. Needed to take a break!!

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LMWC's avatar

Me too.

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Robin Esau's avatar

I love your 2024 strategy, Jeff....

"I plan on resisting all the new Narratives next year, and I intend to rhetorically disassemble the damned things one by one, even while the media is still building them. And I’ll need your help to do it. It’s going to be fun!"

Awesome!! Bring it on!

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Politico Phil's avatar

Kudos on Jeff and his intelligent ability to take a sophisticated subject like "Narratives" and making it understandable without being simplistic. Bravo...

My understanding of this subject was developed in me 50 years ago in college through two textbooks: "Language in Thought and Action" by S. I. Hayakawa and "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" by Kuhn. Linked below.

An academic name for Narrative is Paradigm. "The Structure of Scientific Revolutions" describes how to recognize a paradigm or narrative and how paradigms are overthrown when new information comes along that does not fit in the paradigm. An overarching paradigm would be a worldview. For the Christian, this overarching paradigm would be the "story" of Creation, the Fall/Rebellion and Judgement/Redemption which is exemplified over and over throughout the Bible. This is the paradigm of God's Word which the Christian accepts as a presupposition when considering all other paradigms.

"Language in Thought and Action" was the textbook for an elective class I took in college. This book develops an understanding of semantics and how language is used to build a narrative and how the use of language influences our thoughts.

I commend these two books to anyone who would like to pursue a deeper comprehension of how language and paradigms work and how to think about them.

https://www.amazon.com/Language-Thought-Action-S-Hayakawa/dp/B004FOPF9I/ref=sr_1_6?crid=MNZJG7ESYF0D&keywords=language+in+thought+and+action&qid=1703611537&sprefix=Language+in+%2Caps%2C194&sr=8-6

https://www.amazon.com/Structure-Scientific-Revolutions-50th-Anniversary/dp/0226458121/ref=sr_1_1?crid=11H7LZOZURT77&keywords=the+structure+of+scientific+revolutions+kuhn&qid=1703611743&sprefix=THe+structu%2Caps%2C189&sr=8-1

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I used Hayakawa's book in college, too. Great textbook.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I always loved that story from Kuhn about those two old Eastern European scientists, who, after plate tectonics became orthodoxy, would rent a boat every summer and go out and try to disprove it.

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daverkb's avatar

Jeff was masterful today. Now, if only he had some theological doctrinal sense, then maybe he could avoid certain Middle Easter trip wires.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I was reading some of "THE DAYS OF VENGEANCE: An Exposition of the Book of Revelation" by David Chilton and it occurred to me that even though we are in the waning days of America and the enemies of God appear to be having the upper hand in all that is happening that it is in just such times as these that Christ overthrows His enemies and casts down for judgement the pagan towers that have been built to reveal that the body of Christ on earth is triumphant and victorious in discipling the nations to the obedience of faith. The last 2,000 years of history reveal that this is indeed the pattern. By any secular calculation, Christianity should not have survived beyond 70 AD. Though unacknowledged by secular media, the body of Christ is an unfathomable number far exceeding the figurative 7,000 of Elijah's day. Now it is the pagan that only have a few "7,000" of their number to count on. In fact, the cabal is very few and we are billions and they are beginning to panic because their NWO was unable to be completed...and we are awakening!

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daverkb's avatar

It is impressed upon me that the Soviets never were able to eradicate Christianity, not in the Soviet state nor in the satellite Iron Curtain countries. Even the Chinese and North Koreans have Christians.

Your point of numbers is well-taken and that is why 'cattle herding' is such a big business among those who fancy themselves our rulers.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I neglected to post this link to a free pdf file of Chilton's exposition:

https://www.garynorth.com/freebooks/docs/pdf/days_of_vengeance.pdf

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Raptor's avatar

Thank you Phil. I downloaded it and will enjoy reading it I think.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Dave, I saw this comment about a James Jordan lecture series on Revelation. I have always considered Jordan a genius of a theologian. I looked all over for this lecture but couldn't find it. Pity...it's sounds intriguing........

"The Day's of Vengeance" has radically altered the viewpoint of many towards a preterist/postmillennial eschatology, and is still an excellent commentary. However, James B. Jordan's audio series on the Revelation is the one I believe that has 'extended' Chilton's work. Indeed, Jordan's work influenced Chilton, but continued study led to these lectures in 1999. There are 204 lectures, which take 144 hours (or 6 days) to listen to. Even though there is some helpful repetition, I listened to some of the lectures more than once to let the pattern of thought sink in. The time investment is well worth it, as he goes much deeper than Chilton into the Old Testament allusions and the structure of the Old Creation, sweeping over the entire Bible and demonstrating how it culminates in the Revelation better than anyone I have read or heard. His approach relies much less on Josephus and substantially more on the Old Testament than Chilton did. Chilton's work is still a groudbreaking introduction to this subject, but Jordan's lectures will open your eyes all over again.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

"You worship God in your way, I worship God in his"

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Politico Phil's avatar

Great strategy Jeff, and a perfect strategy for the coming year. You never disappoint. C&C has gone from Covid to Vaccine to War to Election Narratives. I think C&C has graduated well beyond Covid. I would like to suggest a name change from C&C to C&N, Coffee and Narrative. Kinda rhymes with CNN too!

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M2's avatar

Nope! Don't change the name. We're all here because of Covid. If you don't want to use the word, stick with C& C. No need to change a good thing, not sure why we always think we need to and I wouldn't want to support anything that resembles CNN 😆😆😆

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Politico Phil's avatar

Coffee aNd Narrative...

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CStone's avatar

I love it!!

I love his new strategy too.

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Tarn - mutual eye-rolling's avatar

""Coffee and COVID" is never going to be out of date.

COVID, the word carries so much baggage that it's actually funny.

Maybe insert "the". Coffee and The Covid.

The biggest hoax ever, need to keep using the term as a metaphor.

Great post Jeff.

Happy New Debunking Yeah.

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Jpeach's avatar

Jeff, terrific explanation of how the “Narrative” works. Here is Narrative and Cast, I’d like throw out there: NARRATIVE: The Wicked Witches/ Dr. Evil vs. the Human Race. CAST: Schwab as Dr. Evil, his sidekick Hariri as Mini Me, Obama as the Wicked Witch of the West, Xi as the Wicked Witch of the East, Dorothy and Toto as the Human Race trying to get back to 2019.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good one! But even when Dorothy did get back to Kansas, she found her environment torn up by the tornado.

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FourWinds's avatar

I never was one for narratives. I think there may be a word for that in psychology: oppositional defiance or something like that.... whatever. I appreciate the info on how to look for narratives more than ever. I always appreciate any ideas on how to call these turkeys out on their behavior.

I've started paying extra attention to ads and commercials. NFL ad: Pfizer. Weather channel : flu jabs. If a company is allowing sponsors like that, they are possibly compromised. If I owned a business and Pfizer wanted to sponsor me in exchange for them putting up an ad, I would tell them to go fly a kite (with more profanity than that.)

Bring the narratives on. I won't be buying them. And as always, I don't plan on shutting up, either.

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Kim's avatar

👏

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Susan's avatar

going to be interesting for sure to see what they throw at us!

On another note, does anyone know if they started throwing the ModRNA crap into our food yet? Down with another tough sinus infection, yet clear instead of colorful crud coming outta my packed and want to explode head, so a non-infection infection? My back feels like I ran a huge marathon, which I was super busy at work in the prison being nurse and officer on Christmas, but just feel wiped out, my last infection was huge and about a month or two ago, so my immune system should have been up on this one, so to me it means its something else? I am NOT jabbed, so anyone hearing that it is now present for sure in food yet? Maybe aerosolized? Did see a patent for spreading the vax that way... Dont know why I am hit again?!

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Jeff C's avatar

Regarding Tucker and Spacey there's really only two valid explanations:

1) Spacey was framed for political reasons and Tucker is going to expose it

2) Tucker exercised horrible judgment and gave a huge platform to a pedo

I hope it's the first but I fear it's the second.

Edit (12/27): Been thinking about this for a day and I think Charlotte is right, there is something much bigger going on here. Spacey is bad news IMO (though a hell of an actor) and there's no good reason for Tucker to have him on UNLESS it's to reveal something huge that also clears Spacey. (Or perhaps Spacey is guilty but will make amends by coming clean about what is really going on.) Tucker isn't a fool.

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Charlotte's avatar

I really think it’s number one. Yes, I don’t doubt that he had many ill advised romances and maybe one or two stepped over boundaries. But by Hollywood standards, that is nothing. He was taken out for a reason, we just don’t know the reason yet.

What I always tell my kids is that Oscar Schindler was seriously morally ambiguous- he was doing business with the Nazis and making a LOT of money. The only difference was, he woke up during the crisis and made a decision, a very dangerous decision that put his own life in jeopardy, to do the right thing. That is what made him a hero. Many hero’s are not black and white. They wake up and suddenly know what they need to do. That’s why the movie “Gran Torino” is so good. Clint Eastwood’s character is surly, angry, racist and doubts the existence of God. But he knows what he needs to do to make things right.

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J Boss's avatar

"Many hero’s are not black and white."

This is a great point. And one of the primary reasons I despise this revisionist history of canceling so many of our heroic historical American figures based on something that woke culture has suddenly decided is bad enough to ignore all good someone did.

As for the implication of your conclusion at this point in history, THAT is a key reason I support Trump. He is not the perfect POTUS; he's the bull in a china shop we need NOW to destroy the unelected administrative cabal destroying the country.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

What the cancel culture fanatics don't realize is that they are teaching their children how to cancel them in the next generation.

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CH's avatar

Most things are rarely black and white when dealing with humans. For example-just because a treatment for an illness works for some people does not mean it will work for all people.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm not a huge Clint fan-but that flick was my very favorite Clint movie ever!! LOVE THE ENDING--with the Vietnamese young man driving in the Gran Torino and Clint singing the theme song in the background!

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Donna in MO's avatar

Mine too! Too many movies are filled with cardboard characters or caricatures. Clint's character is really humanity in a nutshell - we are all flawed, but when given a chance, the light can shine through.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

EXACTLY, Donna...we are all "cracked pots" in the Potter's nail-scarred hands! May we allow HIS LIGHT to shine through our "cracks"!

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

I just watched another older Clint Eastwood movie yesterday based on a book by Andrew Klavan, True Crime. It was interesting how the gospel was shared by the man on death row to the journalist (also a very flawed and surly character) that Clint played, yet the message got through and "Steve" the journalist acted to save the life of the follower of Jesus... it was so amusing to see the differences (from today) in the office of the newspaper (I think it was the 90s?), and the commentary about smoking, feminism, sexual harassment, and such, and what was acceptible behavior! Many positive changes have been made, but it's gone too far, IMO, lol. I think Eastwood likes to play the anti-villain (if that's the right word) while being a bit of a villain himself, to show what you have expressed so well. He makes a good foil for the more righteous characters in his movies, and he shows courage and determination that doesn't always come from a pure heart...

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Paige Green's avatar

Many of Eastwood’s movies depict him as a bad guy that is basically morally just. Pale Rider, Outlaw Josie Wales, Gran Torino, and more.

I would rather spend my time watching any of his movies than the drivel put out these days.

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Cyn's avatar

I don’t think Tucker is stupid; this was a reveal of the corruption. Tucker’s trademark.

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AnnB's avatar

Yes, I had to watch it twice. First time I was disgusted and 2nd, I realized the narrative may be starting to turn. Talk on the street is Barack is a gay pedophile. Is that the role Spacey plays (I didn’t watch his show)

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shayne's avatar

Remember what Joan Rivers said just before her death...

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Cindi's avatar

So in today’s deeply twisted & morally bankrupt world, we will discover that Barry was our 1st gay president (but couldn’t come out of the closet then) & circa 2024 (trannies rule!) Big Mike will be our 1st tranny president.

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Ellen's avatar

what did she say?

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NoWay's avatar

She said Michelle Obama is trans. Is s/he? Who the heck knows what is true anymore! Is it possible? Sure.

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liz's avatar

of course its true.

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Teak's avatar

BIG MIKE!

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AngelaK's avatar

To be fair: I heard her say this, however, Joan was famous for her humour which made fun of women..their looks, their style, their fashion, etc. That was pure Joan..like catty high school girl gossip and hyperbole.

Therefore, I do not make much of that particular comedy act statement.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Personally I thought the whole interview was fake. No idea why TC did it. Spacey is alleged to have been a ----/ do for years now. Trials end in his favor.. correct:) The interview was weird. Check out how the film is spliced because the Christmas trees in background are sitting almost side by side. So are we to assume Spacey is a Christian ? Was he mimicking the lifestyle of a current president in his on screen role? I’m still trying to figure out who is providing protection and cover for TC. How is he aloud to speak to such supposed “truth” and not be in danger? Protected from somewhere? Does anybody else think it’s impossible to trust in anything except God ? Total confusion here .. mission accomplished. What do you guys think?

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Helen Barnett's avatar

I know, Jan. We are being played big time.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Sure feels like it Helen .

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

I think the message was what Spacey was saying about what is real, what is false, what is art, what is life... he was in character the whole time, the one he played on Netflix (House of Cards) which I always thought was supposed to depict the Clintons... or a version of them, and there were moments in the interview that were stylized just like House of Cards, where the character Spacey played turned to the camera and told you the horrors he was really thinking... It was a very weird interview, yes, but I think it was possibly made to break some paradigm. I don't know though, any more than most, what will come of it. The thing looked like it was filmed in a set. And not Tucker's place, but that fireplace looked familiar... there were internet rumors about Spacey doing away (somehow) with people who would have testified against him, and he did a strange video in front of a fireplace at that time... so confusing, right?

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Swedecelt's avatar

Some commenters on the Kevin Spacey/Tucker interview suggested Spacey was AI generated as it seemed like the background for Tucker and Spacey seemed alike, yet different. I don't know. SMH

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LMWC's avatar

And perhaps God is telling us..I am the Way, the Truth, the Light. In other words, trust only in me…..completely.

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JSR's avatar

Thinking same thoughts…

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liz's avatar

what is this? a ----/ do

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Elaine H's avatar

I believe that are suggesting pedophile

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Interesting take. Makes sense.

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Bobbi's avatar

Lots of gossip out there.

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liz's avatar

is WHAT the role Spacey plays? he is not black or gay, and huh?

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

But Tucker's "trademark" is also that he merely gives us what we already know- which is satisfying on one level but immensely frustrating because he goes no further; ie what was the DoD's role in the "pandemic"? Don't get me wrong, I love listening to his brilliant monologues and want to believe he's a hero. But I'm having a few doubts. Most recently, on two occasions I've heard him claim Jeffrey Epstein's brother as "a very close friend". Yet he pleads ignorance of anything to do with that entire *narrative*. No. You don't live in Washington DC your entire professional life, hobnobbing with the political who's whos, and plead normie-stye ignorance of the issues we're learning more about every day.

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David Icke spoke at length about this in his last post I watched. He said the cabal realizes the MSM has lost all credibility with most of the public, so they need to co opt the alternative media. He kept saying 'Divulge this, but go no farther". In TC's Assange interview post, he referenced the Wikileaks dump, but refused to not only mention Seth Rich, but the fact he was murdered. Did it twice. This , but no farther.

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daverkb's avatar

I have never figured out with any 'top drawer' precision who and what DJT is but I do understand that no one gets on the presidential debate stage all by himself which no help from a major complex of power. And I have more of an idea who Musk is and I am also aware that all opposition could not vanish at the drop of a hat from such places as the SEC and without the SEC getting a serious talking to from some center of great power and influence. And Tucker? A very smart man ... but I am guessing that he is not the Lone Ranger .... and I further guess that there is probably a supporting cast of 'Indians' lurking somewhere in the background.

I believe that their is a Lower Elite as well as an Upper Elite for which I use the term Apex Elite. And the Apex Elite is the Invisible Hand which never desires to reveal itself but is forever playing both ends of the stick against the center, always adapting and shifting as is needed. I also believe that the elites, factions of the elites, can grossly miscalculate. Even the Apex Elite. And to some extent, I believe the last one hundred plus years has been one giant miscalculation and yet seemly smart until the point where the implementation of the overarching master plan runs to exhaustion, usually at the point wherein the plan enters into the realm of hubris; and at which point the whole shebang look like on big mess of tragicomedy.

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liz's avatar

OK seems liek the obvious conclusion is TC is controlled oppo at this point.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Emerald Robinson, on the other hand, straight out reported that Seth was the one who leaked the DNC information to Wikileaks. She had a guest on her show, The Absolute Truth, who talked about it , and Emerald put it in her substack, too. I think sometimes that Tucker is just the opening shot across the bow to spark conversations and test the waters. More of a listening post and a lightening rod at times, and a catalyst at others. Maybe I'm being too generous? Nevertheless, I still think his Heritage Foundation speech the weekend before he left Fox was special!

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Exactly!🎯

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

I can't forget how clubby he was with Asst. SecState "Vicki Neuman" (as Tucker called her) even as he exposed her complicity in the Ukraine War.

Still rings a false note in my memory even as I continue to like him.

Don't want to be paranoid, but ....

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

We're not being paranoid; we're just "sharpening the steel" of discernment. Which is vital in these war games.

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daverkb's avatar

"All dogs have their day" is a very common well-know aphorism. I imagine it will be so someday for Tucker. So said, I cannot deny that Tucker is one very brilliant fellow. And if today's C & C had one overarching point, it's the ins and outs of Narrative Fashioning. Regardings this, I have to admire Tucker for his skill in weaving, darting, dodging and above all highlight what he wants to shine out.

Lot's of people think Tucker is 'one of us'. But is he? Or Musk? Or any of these characters? I won't and/or cannot say. Only remember this for our childhoods. Don't step on a crack because you might break you mother's back. Or even ... get swallowed up.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Well put. I completely agree.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

He’s been playing dumb lately, it’s kind of his style to get people to talk.

Maybe he’s always done this but I find it annoying. I didn’t subscribe to his channel.

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LuAnne's avatar

He's said several things that set off an alarm for me. One, he's adamant he doesn't know why he was fired by Fox. C'mon...really? I don't buy it.

Two, he frequently reminds his guests & viewers that he worked in DC for over 30 years so he knows what's really going on! Does this mean he's been one of them all along but only giving us little tidbits of information?

Three, I saw him being interviewed by an unknown & beginner journalist a few years back where he spoke about being long time friends with the Biden’s. He thought Joe was a pretty great guy. What has Joe Biden done in his 50 years on the government dole that makes him such a great guy?

Four, he recently said he's spoken to many of the UFO whistle-blowers and some of the things he's heard are just too dark for the general population to comprehend & understand. Said he hasn't even spoken of it to his wife because it's too disturbing.

Why would he bother to say such things if he has no intention of disclosing the information? Or, is he trying to peak everyone's attention?

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Karen Bandy's avatar

All good questions/comments. I wonder who is really paying for his network?

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Kalinda's avatar

There could be a multitude of reasons he was fired and he doesn't know the exact one that caused the firing. It could have been his general attitude, it could have been a specific thing he said, it could have been something he was leading up to, it could have been a million and one things. He could suspect why he was fired. Maybe he could list a dozen things that might have gotten him fired. But if Fox is an at will employer (you can be let go for any reason or none) they don't HAVE to tell him WHY they fired him. He might not actually factually KNOW and if he says what he thinks could be sued since he has no proof. He's a very smart man to keep his mouth shut on the matter.

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daverkb's avatar

Very astute observation. I feel somewhat the same as you ... and always a bit wary, on edge.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

If anyone thinks that the unvaxxed are immune to fear, sadness, and isolation they are wrong. Pun intended.

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Dana Larson Weatherly's avatar

I agree; Tucker tells us what we already know—hence, squashes the wackadoodle who calls us the “conspiracy theorists.” It is not only validating but refreshing.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

But my point was that as an "investigative journalist" he ought to be taking it further, or at least as far as we're able to go with our "alternative" media sources.

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liz's avatar

yes completely agree. if he doesnt uncover new ground, I fear he is just a plant.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Bingo.

They are so damn cunning, it's hard to really take that in.

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daverkb's avatar

Exactly! And more like a spider spinning a Narrative. But he does it so, so very well.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Does he ever!

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Exactly.

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JSR's avatar

I have a friend that believes TC is related to James Okeefe

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AnnB's avatar

Had to watch it twice as was disgusted the 1st time. I think Tucker is setting the stage. Timing curious after hearing how staffers having sex within the senate chamber. Weird stuff

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CIAheartsKGB's avatar

Ditto, had to get past my Spacey distaste (and direct knowledge of his not-illegal tastes). Looks like a brilliant set-up for impending revelations. Senate pages have been providing favors for decades (Denny Hastert) , we already have Epstein's flight logs, even Joan Rivers knew about Big Mike, but these facts have not yet been aired for the proles in a stark and cleansing manner.

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Dena's avatar

Interesting also the Tucker / Assange video. Tucker charged in the beginning that Pompeo as head of CIA contemplated assassinating Assange. That I hadn’t heard before.

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CIAheartsKGB's avatar

The reportage says far more about Tucker than about Pompeo, who contemplates assassinating neighbors, pets, and farm animals. TC was always a natural pusher, but he's also a comfortable insider who now deeply disagrees with what has happened to Washington. This is a protracted turf battle over proper and effective governance, a classic palace revolution as the provinces fall. He's far enough off the farm to earn a spot in Pompeo's head.

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

In other words, the Capitol hill "elite" probably did/do the same thing Spacey did.... ?

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hinesti's avatar

I watched that interview. It was absolutely disgusting. I didn't even know at the time that it was Spacey....I only knew that he made my skin crawl. It was only afterwards that I found out it was Spacey....then I understood. I am very disappointed in Tucker even doing that interview...regardless of his reasons why.

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Credenda's avatar

I never knew who Kevin Spacey was but recall hearing the name (no TV and don’t go to the movies) but watching this interview I have to say that this guy creeped me out!

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JanL's avatar

Oh good. I thought I was the only person in the world who doesn’t know who Kevin Spacey is. I didn’t know the Tate brothers either.

Based on the comments here it doesn’t sound like the Tucker interview is worth my time.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

That is crowd-think, my dear. Best always to do your own research and engage your own critical thinking abilities, such as they may be.

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CStone's avatar

I agree. Never....and I mean nEvEr go by what someone else ‘thinks’. Ask for spiritual discernment and ask the Father for His opinion. He will open your eyes, and sometimes the Truth is startling.

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JanL's avatar

Oh my, aren’t you just precious. Did my lack of curiosity over what some celebrity said trigger you? It’s really not that important of an issue for me to “research” or, sorry CStone, “ask for spiritual discernment.” Too funny.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I’m with you. I. Just. Don’t. Care. What Spacey or any other celeb says.

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Robin Fode's avatar

I agree but found Tuckers timing was poorly chosen in my very small opinion. Proving Stacey’s innocent is going to take a lot of investigation into many actors stories, not just Netflix . But he could be innocent, stranger things could happen

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reality speaks's avatar

It was funny as hell. They were poking fun at everything and everyone. They must broke out laughing as soon as it was wrapped up. It was sarcasm at its finest. The Onion and Babylon bee both wished they had pulled this off.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

First thing I thought “this must be a Bee script”. But there are sooooo many takes on WHY Tucker did it...I think that’s the real story.

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Cyn's avatar

I question whether Tucker is trying to prove Stacy’s innocence or he is simply validating what we suspected. Perhaps, exploiting Stacy’s ego, he’s confirming that we aren’t all “conspiracy tin-hat wearers” and that yep, it’s always been right in front of us if we’re looking.

“Hobnobbing” can be a great way, and possibly the only way, to get into the underbelly world of corruption. It’s done all the time by Vice LEOs and informants of all types. Again, ego exploitation of those who believe they’re untouchable doesn’t make the exploiter one of them and/or guilty of any crime.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

... but only the possible crime of omission (of information about what's going on).

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Cyn's avatar

He’s telling us all about it.

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

No, not "all".

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Good point, representing the possible "distraction" factor. See my response above for other doubts.

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Robin Esau's avatar

Same. I watched a minute or so before deciding, "no thanks, too weird."

Felt the same about his Tate interview.

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CH's avatar

Me too. I shut it off as soon as I realized it was Kevin Spacey "in character". It is weird no matter how you look at it.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I'm a teacher and some of my kids love Tate - they call him a role model. Disturbing....

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Diana (Somewhere in Maryland)'s avatar

Tate preaches constantly about the evils of marijuana and because of that my 17 year old thinks it is evil and something to completely stay away from. Win.

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Johnny-O's avatar

There are fat better role models than Tate. He openly calls women bitches and hoes. He's arrogant...

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John A George's avatar

As someone probably much older than you I suggest you investigate Tate before deeming his views "disturbing". I first saw him years ago on Infowars; he's remained pro-family, pro-liberty, etc. If you think the NWO is incapable of setting him up because he ruffled their feathers, you have got a lot more studying to do before the exam.

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Johnny-O's avatar

A lot is inferred by one short comment I made, as well as condescending. Tate is no role model. Look how he talks to and about women. He is one of the cockiest and arrogant people I've ever listened to.

He also says things I agree with. I can loathe him for who he is as a person and still agree with him on certain issues. They aren't mutually exclusive

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly. Another Narrative.

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Shelle's avatar

I watched the Tate/TC interview with no preconceptions. But I had this feeling of something being off and I went on to watch some YouTube exposes of Tate that make valid points imo. Sure, there are points of agreement, but Tate has an immoral life. He doesn't know what it is to bond with and love a woman for life. So how can he help young men achieve that? To not have one person in the world who deeply loves you is a loss bigger than anything he's supposedly helping them attain.

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Johnny-O's avatar

He openly refers to women as bitches and hos. I appreciate humbleness. He's so arrogant it's putrid.

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Cynthia's avatar

I write for a living. A high school senior I just interviewed said Tate is his "greatest inspiration" because he's "disciplined and hard working."

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liz's avatar

so confused.

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Loretta Thomas's avatar

Or, maybe it is to generate interest and attention to the House of Cards series as it will provide a framework and help the public accept the soon to happen exposure of political corruption?

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Joanie Higgs's avatar

Are they rolling out new episodes with Spacey in them?

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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

They weren't children and he's not a pedo.

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Jeff C's avatar

This comment is so annoying in its disingenuousness. I get it that someone you respect appears to have made a huge blunder and you are reacting emotionally. But stop with this irrelevant hair splitting.

By your logic Epstein, his accomplices, and all those Catholic priests aren't "pedos" either as their victims were almost always post-puberty. So what? Should Tucker have them on next? Pederasts are cool but not pedophiles?

BTW, do you have kids?

I'm not trying to put words in your mouth but pointing out what you are defending. Tucker gave what most of us would consider evil personified a huge megaphone. I'm hoping (and praying frankly) that he has a really good reason for doing so, which was why my first explanation was that he would expose a frame. But man, if that's not the case then this was an inexcusable lapse in judgment.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I don't think I have enough information -- either about Spacey, or the interview. All we know is from the lying news media and allegations in a lawsuit (which are sometimes far from the truth). I'll need more.

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Jackie Schroeder's avatar

Why doesn’t someone ask Tucker ?

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Jeff C's avatar

They were under 18 but past puberty so technically he's a pederast, not a pedophile. Pedo is however is commonly used in reference to adults who seek out sex with minors.

Not that you have the knowledge to differentiate, but are just spouting off out of emotion. Get off your high horse.

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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

My dear man I think it is you who are spouting off out of emotion on that high horse. I was the jailbait and know the game and it's a lot more complicated than you are ready for and Santa is real.

(Smile)

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liz's avatar

I think its up to US to decide if we are ready for the truth about the game. Thanks to Jack Nicholson : YOU CANT HANDLE THE TRUTH- a few Good Men-

but at this late stage of the game, knowledge is def power and we need it. so Spill please, or be known as an irrelevant distraction.

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liz's avatar

well miss high horse, please explain your cryptic and weird comments? for those of us who were not in the pedo game.

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ERIKA LOPEZ's avatar

Miss high horse is funny. You made me smile!

Happy new year, Liz.

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liz's avatar

and to you, dear Erika! lets keep our spirits high!

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Jaci's avatar

And they have seemed to die before trial.

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Palamambron's avatar

3) Tucker is also in the cult.

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liz's avatar

unfortunately after this interview I think its quite possible. in any case, so not funny and not confidence inspiring.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Which one?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

eek

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Jamie's avatar

Sincere question:

I never followed the case against Spacey when he got kicked off whatever net-flix show he did, frankly didn’t care. I don’t use much social media & no MSN.

I already didn’t like or trust what I’d seen long before that. From what I understand I saw, he’s had a long history of underage & young male assault allegations (now NDA’s) and his involvement with Epstein and Clinton is very suspect. They flew without secret service to South Africa from what I recall.

He is his own red flag for me. But if I have been totally misled, I would like to know where.

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liz's avatar

agree

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Doug Young's avatar

You might notice that Tucker never uses Spacey's name, and it's obvious that he's playing the Frank Underwood role, to comment on the current election whackery. I think it's just to poke fun at the establishment, with a shady fictional character, played by a cancelled me-too actor, in an interesting, and funny, comedic bit. If it's a prelude to a move on Spacey's part in the real world, all the better.

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liz's avatar

this is the weirdest and most questionable thing Ive ever seen Tucker do, bordering on normalizing pedophilia... scratching my head.

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Bill Jarett's avatar

If you read about Spacey's father he was a complete psychopath, surprised he and his brother turned out as well as they did.

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liz's avatar

it has freaked out everyone who I sent Coffee and covid to today! no one wants to hear about Kevin Spacey... and why is Tucker giving him any coverage. super weird. if there were one accuser, maybe - but 8 to 10?

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SheThinksLiberty's avatar

Spacey went after children? I thought he liked young adult males..?

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Lisa Ca's avatar

To me, it makes great “sense” its the first as it seems we have had many “pedos” in office for a long time. Obviously many are not proven, like the Resident but are so suspicious. It also fits with the whole deep line of sex trafficking and pedoism in this country.

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STH's avatar

When I’m feeling particularly feisty, I challenge covidiots to entertain the following- We agree the spike IS toxic. However which is more toxic- a virus you clear in 10-14 days or a shot that directs your body to produce spike potentially forever? They really don’t like to ponder that one.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And which perhaps you clear in 2 days if Povidone 1% gargled and nose-dropped (thank you Dr. McCullough--never before in my cold-prone life have I ever gotten off with such ease)

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NAB's avatar

Some things I now do routinely: vit. C 1000mg each day, Vit. D 4000-6000 iu each day (along with vit. K), mouth wash and nasal irrigation. I have managed to avoid serious illness since 2020.

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STH's avatar

Yes Via! The nasal protocols really work!

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Deb Comerford's avatar

I absolutely agree 100%. Both those things stop viruses dead in their tracks! I use these daily!

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Janet's avatar

That’s a good one. 👍🏻

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Merry belated Christmas, C&C family! 🎄

Thank you for peering into the world of the Covidians and reporting back from the frontlines, Jeff. (I also greatly appreciate your primer on Narratives as it is the primary way the propagandists practice Orwellian “reality control.”)

I wonder how they would respond to this delightful animation Visceral Adventure surprised me with:

• “A Very Boring Story About What Could Have Been in Under 200 Words (Video)”: https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/a-very-boring-story-about-what-could-900

Only two minutes long, the video is gentle and nonthreatening enough that it may help penetrate the programming. It also presents what occurred (or rather, didn’t occur) in such a simple, clear way, narrative-believers may begin to wonder why these conventional health guidelines weren’t followed during COVID.

One of the recommendations I include in “12 Communication Tips to Foster Meaningful Dialogue” is to just try sharing *one* video with a Covidian and see if you can engage in productive dialogue. This is a good addition to the other videos I list as potential narrative-cracking candidates:

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/12-communication-tips-to-foster-meaningful

One reader, Doug Leclair, recently informed me that he was able to use my video of Tess Lawrie’s reading of “Mistakes Were NOT Made” to red-pill his family in four minutes during their Easter dinner, so it is worth a shot!

https://substack.com/@margaretannaalice/note/c-45578197

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/mistakes-were-not-made-an-anthem-57a

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ueUXNL-A3Zg

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Annie's avatar

I think the difference between covidians and us is the narrative. They believe it is covid. #ABV rules Supreme. I guess it is something that they see all the illnesses, cancers, deaths and baffled authorities. But they need to see the truth - it is the vaxx.

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AnnB's avatar

I know of lots of vaccine injured. They are all really ticked off but misdirecting their anger. They need to start by holding the media, celebrities, late night shows, government actors and somehow sue big Pharma (like Texas is trying) into oblivion.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The ones I know, are not even looking at the death shot as the culprit.

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Annie's avatar

Agree. I heard genetic predisposition or diet etc. They are really going down with this ship. And N95 mask wearing is up.

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Roger Beal's avatar

I'd suggest another difference is the identity of the folks being paid billions of dollars for their "expert opinions" a/k/a professional fear porn.

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wendy perzow's avatar

Lots of useful clips there Anna !

I think the key word you used is 'gentle' when dealing with trying to awaken a person who is deep into the c o v i d party line.

All else may surely fail and only lead to heated arguments.

A little wisdom from you goes a long way !

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, wendy!

I also described the four-minute video I published last Christmas—my first collaboration with Visceral Adventure—as gentle and think it is another excellent contender because it doesn’t preach but rather asks viewers to remember what Before COVID was like and contrast it with After COVID:

• “Do You Remember?”: https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/do-you-remember-video

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Mike's avatar

Margaret, I am a devotee of your work/wisdom. I'm wondering if you are working on a video series on the "wrapped in" 2nd Amendment NARRATIVE. Yeah, I recognize that this a big step away from the upper elites thinking that guns for defense/protection are only for lug headed right wingers until the next wave of fresh faces Golden Globe winners appear to coerce you and your family into the next round of "safe and effective" remedies. Who/what will defend you then? Remember how difficult it was just say no to the vax and don't forget that nearly half the population are getting they're masks ready and buying toilet paper from Costco...just say'n.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, Mike. I did cover that important topic in the following piece but don’t currently have the bandwidth to do a video series on it as I’ve got about a thousand unfinished projects I’m trying to stay focused on completing :-)

https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/discussion-thread-gun-rights-vs-gun/comments

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Mike's avatar

I just went back and read your sub stack. Wonderful! Should be required reading for anyone that wishes to opine on the subject. Using "masks" in place of "guns" and you have the same discussion, same frustrating results. Please keep trying to educate the unwilling, even the Word of God falls on deaf (unwilling) ears.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Thank you, Mike! Regarding masks, you may appreciate this piece if you haven't already read it:

• "Letter to the Oregon Health Authority": https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/letter-to-the-oregon-health-authority

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Kathy Owensby's avatar

Excellent video!

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Glad you appreciated it, Kathy! Tonika is doing wonderful work, and it's been a joy collaborating with her.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you for these tips. I was shut down by my best friend, ‘I don’t want to talk about it cuz I’ll get mad (at you)’. She didn’t says ‘at you’ but I certainly took it that way.

I wish I had read this ... This backfired and caused her to want to end the discussion. I thanked her for helping me see what the conversation was like from her perspective and apologized for being overzealous.

This, in turn, led her to apologize for throwing out her opinions but then saying she didn’t want to talk about it anymore, which she realized put me in an impossible position. That opened the door to healing dia

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

I am so sorry you were shut down like that, Karen. I'm glad you found the communication tips and the experience I shared with my friend useful. If enough time has passed, it might be worth another try, perhaps starting by apologizing for having made her uncomfortable and asking if it's okay if you share something meaningful with her (pick whatever you think would be most appropriate). You could explain how sad you feel about not being able to be fully yourself with her and how grateful you would be if she would be willing to talk openly with you about these topics and share her perspective with you. Please report back with findings if you give it a go :-)

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thank you so much. I’m not sure I can, they’re pretty entrenched in her husband’s huge battle with a super rare mouth cancer. I have been able to send her info about curing cancer with fenben, etc. but it’s beyond the husband’s bandwidth. His cancer goes back to 2018-19 so well before covid. They gave him 10 years, so this last surge probably seems normal and expected.

Even though she blindly defends the shots, she is open to alternatives to controlling symptoms, if not exactly a cure. I am grateful for that bit. Too bad he can’t go for alternatives.

When I realize it all comes down to fear, I am more gracious and understanding.

Thank you for listening. 🩷

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SoCalGal's avatar

My daughter in law had at least 4 covid shots and flu shots. Two weeks ago she went to the ER thinking she had a bad UTI. Three days later she was diagnosed with UTI, dehydration, sepsis and a virus. She says her immune system is fragile now and she’ll have a chance of getting sick again. But....the shots had nothing to do with it. Sure.

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Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

😢🤦‍♀️💔

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Connect The Dots's avatar

Is there a link for just the video? If I send it in a substack, it's almost a guarantee it won't get watched.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Having the truth come to light in the Covidian world can’t happen fast enough for me. In 2 months, our first grandchild is due to make his/her appearance, but sadly our 34-year-old son and his lovely wife are under the spell that they can somehow protect this child from all harm by only allowing the fully vaccinated to interact with their baby. Yes, if I want to hold my first grandchild, I must get the Covid, flu, rsv, and tdap vaccines. My husband and I, plus the few other unvaxxed family members are heartbroken. When will this madness end??😔

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

So sorry you're having to live a common hell for many grandparents who are suffering from their mindset. We too, live this madhouse! We did get to meet our twin grandaughters, at age 4 months, but haven't been invited back. While 7 months pregnant our daughter even took the "new RSV vaccine for pregnant mothers" so "her babies wouldn't get RSV." The night before we flew out to visit our new grandbabies, our SIL sent a text reminding us to "wear an M-95 mask on your journey." I showed it to hubby... we decided we'd fly without since there is no "M-95" mask. They didn't inquire if we'd worn them... So. The other grandparents live across the pond, so we and they are another family without grandparents as vital members of the extended generational family... Heartbreaking. And our children grew up with my parents as an integral component of their lives.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Reading your post, made my heart sink. I have seen the vile commercial for this poison. It is so vile that it is nauseating. I have friends who were blackmailed into the jab, by their children, using their children as bait. So very sad.

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Paige Green's avatar

My niece and nephew in law, after the birth of their first child, invited the families over with the requirement of vaccination for pertussis (that was the rage of the day - always something, right???). I haven’t had a vax in decades, didn’t get that one, and nothing was even mentioned about it when I showed up.

I wonder if they’re going to require an “M-95” for a visit this coming Saturday 😉

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CStone's avatar

Tell them they need to get the rabies, shingles and Ebola vaccine in order to see YOU.

Our doctor (who is also a friend) at one time pushed all the children’s vaccines until HIS child was affected. Fully vocal at 2. Got a vaccine and became silent. Our doctor became antivax in a hot minute. Tried to save patients with ivermectin during the depopulation events.

Sometimes it takes a very hard slap in the face for some to wake up. And every day I curse the day that this had to happen for him to wake up, as he is a good dr and a great human being.

I will pray that the Father will wake them up before their baby is born

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Been there! I’m sorry you have to go through it. I didn’t meet our grandson until he was 2 years old for the same reason.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Did your kids decide that 2 was the "magic age" at which infection could not occur?

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Susan Catherine's avatar

It's the elephant in the room--we never talk about it. I can only guess they came to realization (that the injection is ineffective and does not protect anyone) last year when they decided to show up at a family function I was at. We live in separate states. When we visit their area, we are not necessarily only seeing them.

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Datagal's avatar

No, they probably just needed a baby sitter.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Oh my!! I’m so sorry!! I fear that is our future as well.😢

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Just lie to them.

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JSR's avatar

👆🏼👆🏼

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liz's avatar

yup, in some situations its the only way to go.

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John Ransley's avatar

Never. Write them off as liabilities

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m so sorry! A Midwestern Doctor just wrote about this type of thing dividing families. I can’t even imagine having to make a decision between seeing your grandchildren(or children) and taking vaccines that you know are harmful. Could you print out the data and at least sit down with your adult child and show them exactly why you’re not taking the jabs?

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Janet's avatar

I’m so so sorry. 😢.

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STH's avatar

Do not do it TL! They will wake up one day and you could be dead from all that poison.

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Credenda's avatar

It’s a mental illness. Have compassion.

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liz's avatar

In this case I think its permissible to lie about it, for the sake of the child. you can get papers, they are available.

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L1's avatar

I’m sorry they are doing that. I hope they come around to reality quickly. It’s awful the way the unvaxxed have been treated. And absolutely ridiculous at this point in time. Prayers for you!

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JJ's avatar

Those poor kids. If their parents are asking you to get all those shots, imagine what they will do with their baby. Try to keep the Tylenol and ABX away and recommend natural things for the inevitable litany of illnesses that will happen.

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HMC's avatar

💔

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Betsy Frost's avatar

I loved the Tucker interview. Having said that, I think it was a miss as it was probably misunderstood by those who weren't fans of the House of Cards series. It was obvious to me quite soon into the interview that it was a spoof, that Spacey was in Frank Underwood character, but unless you were a diehard watcher of the series it was probably too subtle and misunderstood as serious. That said, I think there was an intended insinuation that Spacey may have been framed. My belief has always been that his portrayal of evil personified in the political system came too close to reality for some players.

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Cyn's avatar

Loved House of Cards, as I believe it was another of Hollywood’s reveals into reality.

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Charlotte's avatar

I always thought Frank Underwood was Bill Clinton.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Yes. Both Clintons were satirized.

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wendy perzow's avatar

Ditto !

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I think it was Obama.

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wendy perzow's avatar

Could be either, in fact...

Both perverted narcissists.

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Michael Framson's avatar

What I am hearing is that I need to watch House of Cards, right?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes. I felt it was groundbreaking at the time because it showed how evil and murderous politicians really are..."means justify the ends" kind of story line.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Frank Underwood's evil wife became President.

Like Michelle to the rescue in real life to "save" the nation?

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

lol, I never saw the end. too funny, and sad, how close to reality it is.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Sadly, the little I saw of it, I thought of all the sick individuals that make up the political system in our country. It reflected on all of them. Their lust of power, goes to their head, and infects them with evil.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Amazing how they all end up as millionaires.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

They sold their souls to the devil.

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NAB's avatar

My husband and I had to check out of it early too because we knew DC was terrible to begin with and it wasn't very entertaining watching a dramatized version (though I appreciate the buttons it did push).

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Renee Morris's avatar

Agree. My understanding is that Spacey sends out an in-character Frank Underwood message yearly around this time. Tucker just launched the TCNetwork, so to me, it was an opportunity for both to use each other's platform to reach a larger audience.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The first couple of seasons of "House of Cards" were excellent.

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devoalan's avatar

I don’t watch television,so that whole thing went right over my head. I was trying to figure out who that slimy guy was, and where he came from. Now I gotta watch it again.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I wouldn’t have had a clue. Don’t watch mainstream tv.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

It was only on Netflick not main stream tv

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Hah! Obviously, I don’t pay attention to streaming services either.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Me neither. For the whole 10 seconds of the interview I watched, I was asking myself "Is that that disgraced homo predator that was in a series several years ago?"

No thanks. Just weird.

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Chiadrum's avatar

That show was a documentary about the Clintons. At least he didn’t get suicided.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I found it hilarious.

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Ruth H's avatar

I never watched House of Cards so I was completely befuddled about the whole interview 🤪

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Datagal's avatar

I loved the original, British House of Cards. Did anyone see that?

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FH's avatar

I laughed so much, clearly it was a total spoof. Especially when he said, we will know by how the media reports this.

I watched a few minutes of an early episode on the Netflix version, stopped because I got the point after watching the original 3-episode British version, which was not action-oriented yet brilliantly told a very dark story that I haven’t forgotten.

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Man-i's avatar

The Spacey interview was high art. It was deep delicious satire. They showed us how corrupt, duplicitous, manipulative and evil politicians are

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Robin Fode's avatar

So true, but for many of us who didn’t watch the Netflix series we had to piece together the different possibilities of scenarios 🤪😳🎄👍🏼

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Ruth H's avatar

Thanks for your interpretation, as I was totally confused after watching. I’m not a fan of Spacey, but his comments were so off the wall (like enjoying blo/cocaine on Christmas Day) I had no idea why he was interviewed.

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Man-i's avatar

Hi. thanks for your reply. Im a physician in private practice since 1999. Im also an amateur dramatic actor and musical theater performer. Spacey is an actor playing a role in that interview. He is in character as the politician he played in House of cards. If you watched that show at all you know that Spaceys character was a total sociopath. If you understand acting at all you know that an actors job is to find the subtext... the agenda. You might say to another actor on stage while playing a character , "oh we are going to be the best of friends" and sound earnest and honest but in reality you are plotting to murder the other character in the play.

The POINT of this interview is showing that politicians are playing roles, they are mostly if not always sociopaths who have an agenda behind everything they say and do. They might come across as honest, they might appeal to some high minded ideal, or appeal to a specific issue that you hold near and dear. but these people almost never care about the thing they are talking about, they are using their guile and charm and using you as a stepping stone to power.

This interview with Spacey is one of the most brilliant things I've ever seen in the media b/c it exposes this idea for what it is... pure theater. Politics is pure theater. Its all lies , misrepresentations, agendas and power struggles.

Dont believe any of them, dont trust any pols or any gov agencies.. Never listen to them , dont believe them.

Stop voting , stop participating.

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Ruth H's avatar

Love this explanation; however, I will never stop voting for my candidate of choice. I’ll be disappointed in most and have been many times, but I keep using my right as a citizen to express my choice through voting.

Thanks for the artist’s view of true performance. Yes, most all politicians are sociopaths. If not, they are corrupted by DC swamp when they stay too long. Term limits would be a good way to shorten their obsession with re-election and demand attention to their purpose of representing their constituents.

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Man-i's avatar

Voting is irrelevent and counter productive. Voting at this point is a useless exercise. You have no choice and no control. Voting ( participating ) in this totally morally and financially bankrupt system is like facilitating an alcoholic . You have no “right” to vote. A state can legally deny u the ability to vote. Women couldnt vote before 1914 ? Or so. Id be perfectly happy to surrender and give up my voting ability if we had better government. One of the main reasons why things are so messed up is because TOO many people can vote. They let 18 year old vote for Cris-sake ! 18 yo old s dont know shit about anything.

The fewer ppl who can vote the better. If eveyone with sense like u and me STOPPED voting and one day there was an election where only 10 percent of all the eligible voters actually turned out then the whole system would finally be exposed for the giant scam and fraud that it is and things would finally change.

Like in the soviet union: even the leaders lost faith in the system

The united states as we think of it is OVER the experiment has failed. The USA federal gov is a totally corrupt morally and financially bankrupt and failed state.

You must accept this and STOP participating in the lie

https://cdn.mises.org/anatomy-of-the-state.pdf

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John A George's avatar

One narrative that's escalating is the Nikki Haley narrative. I get multiple mailings per day and hear nothing but "she's the one Biden fears the most" propaganda wherever I turn. She's lasted longer so far in this cycle than the carousel of characters presented in the 2016 plot to derail Trump.

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rowantree's avatar

To be fair to Biden, she's the one I fear most as well. 😅😆

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

She is a evil warmonger.

And, her kids are not in the military.

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Annie's avatar

She's a POS.

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John A George's avatar

NWO puppet. Who better to promote?

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯

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Lisa Ca's avatar

As my husband says she also has deeply lined pockets with the military so it kind of fits RINO ways.

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

I get the same from the Vivek camp.

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John A George's avatar

He's much more difficult to figure out. He's either:

1) a deep state plant planted so deeply that the only way to out him would be to see him in power and in action. Or,

2) he's someone who, like most of us here, loves America and is trying to do something to save it.

I don't think anyone will defeat Trump, but on a positive note, even if Vivek achieved power, could he do more to harm the country than Biden has?

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Anthony's avatar

My brother in law showed me a video of Vivek saying some of the same things as Obama. Almost verbatim. And not typical politician pablum. The creepiest to me was the one where both said "Here's a skinny guy with a funny name." I suggest looking it up. I was starting to warm up to Vivek until I saw that.

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Emu's avatar

I like Vivek. The more I listen to him the more I like him. He doesn’t shy away from difficult questions and actually answers the question asked. I think he will do well for our country if the corrupt, brain addled republicans will get out of his way. I’m over the Republican Party. They’re worse than the democrats but we expect backstabbing and corruption from the democrats. We sadly still vote for people to represent us, but they’re just trying to get into the club. Our only hope for this country is the very few republicans who held up Kevin McCarthys nomination and then kicked him out. At least I know what side they’re playing for.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

for me I highly doubt Trump will get

office. They are doing whatever they can to keep him out. Legal or illegal.

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NAB's avatar

Agreed. And there is talk of Trump choosing her as VP. I will NOT vote for that pairing. I won't. And no one can convince me that somehow Trump will defang her of power. He turned his Presidency over to Pence and his son-in-law when Covid hit setting the stage for his eventual "defeat."

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Owain Glyndŵr's avatar

Not only her ties to military/intel complex, it really sealed the deal for me when she advocated for basically a government ID validated, digital passport for any social media or blog account. Then tried to walk that back a bit later on. Showed true colors. If she is on the ballot....not getting the nod from this end!

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Yes. This is the biggest threat. They are looking at every way to take trump out and they intend to by any means necessary and their hope is to put in Nikki Haley in his place. At this point I'm planning to vote DeSantis in the primary only because trump will win in a landslide anyway and I don't want Nikki Haley having even a snowball's chance in a place where snowballs don't have a chance of getting the Oval Office.

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hinesti's avatar

Jeff, your insights today regarding the upcoming Narratives was comforting to me. I pray that God would give each of us a spirit of discernment in these last days so that we will not be caught up in the huge delusions that are coming.

Give us eyes to see, Lord. Keep us, and fill us with Your Presence, Jesus.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m praying for the exact same thing, awareness or watchfulness of events around us, discernment and courage.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Yes very helpful to step outside and examine the Narrative framework.

Thanks, Jeff Childers.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

Amen!

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Michael Wachocki's avatar

Someone should tell that poor woman about ivermectin fenbendazole combo against cancer.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

They are still clinging to ‘horse wormer, I’m not a horse, and there’s no way I have worms. Worms are only in third world countries, you’re so stupid, you’ll believe anything’

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deathcap's avatar

i mean my kids got worms and we bought otc medicine for it at walgreens. wasn't hard to find at all! also not hard to treat, one dose and nobody has worms anymore.

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nik's avatar

Where is everyone getting their Ivermectin now ??

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shayne's avatar

Tractor Supply. I'm not joking. I buy the horse wormer, and take a pea sized dose each day. I haven't grown a tail, nor do I neigh.... LOL

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Fla Mom's avatar

Dr. Malone, who raises horses, said the human dose, per lb/kg, is the same as the equine dose, so people can just set the adjustor at the right weight and push the correct dose out.

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Fred's avatar

True, although I think FLCCC docs increased their rec dose for treatment to 0.4 mg/kg. The horse dose is 0.2.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Thanks, Fred, I didn't realize that.

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NAB's avatar

Yet.... :)

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Fla Mom's avatar

The guy who writes the Substack something like, The 2nd Smartest Guy in the World sells three key meds (disguised as animal meds). The Wellness Company and Jace also sell med kits. As shayne says below, many use horse oral dewormer or cattle injectable (taken orally).

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Shiden_kai's avatar

I've ordered a couple times from them, one got thru, the other got stopped at the border (I'm Canadian). It's a crap shoot.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

I just ordered from 2nd smartest guy yesterday.

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nik's avatar

I would love to know where ? I looked at his site and couldn’t find it !?

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plutomeyer's avatar

You can order from India via IndiaMart. Tons of vendors to choose from, very reasonable prices.

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CStone's avatar

We order ours online. You can get three tubes for what you would pay for one at Tractor Supply.

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Peace's avatar

What company do you order from?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Try horse.com or jefferspet.com. Both are having sales right now, too.

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Datagal's avatar

Mexico.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I order from all day chemist. I did four orders during Covid.

They’re not fast because they’re from India, but they provide good product choices.

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Shiden_kai's avatar

I'm fortunate, I have a friend who owns horses and she just got me a litre of it in liquid. Not cheap, but the dose makes it last forever. Here in Canada, hard to get iver, but you can buy Fenbendazole on Amazon! I am taking both for my cancer (I am unjabbed, so just your run of the mill kidney cancer).

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Jeff - are you still confident that the FDA can’t ignore these studies that continue to flood in?

https://brownstone.org/articles/are-safety-reports-from-covid-mrna-shots-due-to-lack-of-fda-ingredient-clarity

I’m curious as to what Ladapo will do since the FDA has basically blown him off. Is it not his duty to protect the citizens of Florida? Does he, as Surgeon General of Florida, have the authority to stop the shots in your state?

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Cyn's avatar

The Florida legislature has the power and hopefully, they and the Governor, listen to Ladapo.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Just so you know where the legislature is coming from, most all the health committees are filled with Big corporate hospital and Pharma shills, employed by or on the board of major medical groups that pushed and still push the jabs, remdesiver, genital mutilations on children. Just query their bios and then their biggest donors. Follow the money. Even the Lt Governor, Jeannette Nunez was/is a big corporate hospital lobbyist now sitting on the board of directors of the largest hospital systems in the state. The legislature will do what those master's tell them to do, not what their real masters, We The People, tell them to do. Until they come to realize we are their real masters.

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Cyn's avatar

But exposing them is very gratifying!

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Emu's avatar

Ron needs to stop embarrassing himself in front of the country and come back to Florida. My auto insurance renewal just went up 50%. Add that to the 40% it went up last year and it’s ridiculous. No tickets, accidents in over 20 years. Come back to work Governor! And I can’t even get homeowners as my house was built in 1879. I just pray through hurricane season.....

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

DeSantis would be a hero if he banned the shots.

But...he...won't.

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Michelle D's avatar

I thought he banned them from bring mandated and banned them via no state funding to be spent on them. I am against the shots but I do believe in freedom of choice. I think he is smart in not supporting them financially with tax payer money but allowing them for those who want them.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Somebody has to step up to the plate.

Anybody.

He is the best person to do it based on all the adverse events, and deaths, reported to VAERS.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Crack cocaine addicts wish they had their freedom of choice. But crack cocaine is banned. Maybe DeSantis allows Floridians the freedom of choice to use crack cocaine, just no state funding spent on it, allowed for those who want to use it?

Or do you still believe the clot shots/death jabs are beneficial? That part of the narrative, story still resonates with you? Hmm. Crack addicts believe crack is beneficial for them, too.

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Politico Phil's avatar

He banned the mandates but that was pretty much after the fact. Lots of good theater though. MAPs or "Minor Attracted Persons" also claim "freedom of choice".

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Theater:

"No cruise ships will leave Florida ports if they require proof of vaccination!!! NONE!"

Two weeks later: Cruise ships leaving Florida ports requiring proof of vaccination...some still do three years later.

So many examples of DeSantis bluff and bluster for freedom. Forgotten and trampled on as soon as his PR machine turns off the mics and cameras.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Laura, I'm glad you shared this link, as it responds to someone's question in a comment in recent days about storage requirements for the injection products; she (I think) wondered why they didn't need to be deep-frozen anymore. I hope she sees this comment and reads that un-reassuring column.

I too have been waiting for Dr. Ladapo to take the final step of recommending that no one take one of these injection products, for lack of true data on safety and efficacy. It should be quick now. If he does, that will provide cover for the Governor and legislators, whom Cyn correctly points out should be the ones setting such policy. DeSantis had created a COVID advisory committee with high-profile 'normal-world' docs on it, but they disappeared off the face of the Earth, as far as I can tell. If they would back Dr. Ladapo, then the chain would be even stronger.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

In 1976, the Swine Flu vaccine was pulled with less than 50 deaths.

So, there is a precedent.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I didn't realize they pulled that evil shot. I was forced to take it in the military and have dealt with fibromyalgia since. Glad they took it off the market.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Took it also as 1976 was my first year in the military.

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Sam's avatar

You might already know this, but the reason why the shot was pulled was because the media covered how many people were getting severely injured from it. Then Clinton allowed big pharma to advertise on the Telly and big pharma gave the media lots of money and then they didn’t want to risk it going away and stopped reporting on big pharma at all. Now we see so many reports sponsored by Pfizer.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m so disappointed that DeSantis has definitely been much less proactive since he announced his candidacy for president. He’s either trying to be politically correct so as not to offend anyone or is just doing what his advisors are telling him to say or do. Regardless of what has caused the change in how he’s governing, it’s quite revealing and very disappointing. It seems almost everyone can be bought for a price.

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Dena's avatar

And that’s why he’s not resonating with the people. He’s not “authentic “, nor strong & resolute in his beliefs. He falls flat & people recognize it. I wanted him to be the same kind of presidential candidate he was as Governor - He definitely disappointed & blew it.

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

Yeah I love him as my Governor and I wished he hadn’t run for president yet. My take is he is setting himself up to be there IF the cabal is successful at removing Trump from the ballot. That’s the ONLY reason I would vote for him over Trump.

But Ron is definitely my pic over the other presidential hopefuls because of his proven record in FL

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Politico Phil's avatar

Good point.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I was hoping he'd not run, finish a bang-up second term as our full-time Governor, and then have two years to campaign for the presidential election of 2028. When he came in, blasting on all cylinders, in his first term, it did appear he had certain goals he wanted to accomplish, which was encouraging. Now I fear the goal was establishing a record on which to run now, planning on his first six years in office to have enough accomplishments that he could skip the last two.

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Politico Phil's avatar

As a POTUS candidate, he has to toe the line with those funding his campaign. There is no way not to be compromised unless he takes a stand and says "damn the consequences."

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Fla Mom's avatar

Actually, I see that this is the column I was thinking of:

"Drug Regulators are Hiding RNA Stability Data"

https://blog.maryannedemasi.com/p/drug-regulators-are-hiding-rna-stability

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Janet's avatar

Yup. I made note of that cold requirement and then --nothing. My local Walgreens didn’t look compliant and I’m sure they didn’t have room by the amount of covidiots I saw sitting on chairs up and down the aisles waiting. Kind of they had more comfy seats in the “boxcars” heading to what we see now. It was chilling then and I didn’t even know a 1/4 of what was going on.

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JWM_IN_VA's avatar

The FDA has NO AUTHORITY to pull the shots. You need to understand the PHE laws that allowed for EUA in the first place. The shots are not pharmaceutical products.

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ChrisB's avatar

I plan on resisting all the new Narratives next year, and I intend to rhetorically disassemble the damned things one by one, even while the media is still building them. And I’ll need your help to do it. It’s going to be fun!

Ditto! (But I'll add "and somewhat exhausting" to the end of that 😬)

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Noelle S (Jennifer Incognito)'s avatar

I did not bring up COVID at the holidays. Vaxxed family members brought it to me. One told me the book I gave them (Defending the Constitution Behind Enemy Lines) was eye opening and they thought we were supposed to trust the FDA. Another told me that they were sicker with the vaccines than with COVID. A third told me (in contrast to prior position) that everyone has right to choose, the government lied to us, and they were probably voting for Kennedy. Sea change. Once again, I must thank God for giving me clear direction.

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NAB's avatar

Glimmers of hope!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Will probably be my last vote but Kennedy 2024.

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rowantree's avatar

Great post! Merry Christmas Jeff! One trend I've noticed among the pandemic-fearful is the continuous blaming of other people for their illness, saying in an accusatory manner, "I got Covid from so and so" (or the flu or whatever). Also another weird post-Covid trend is that of doctors and clinicians refusing to see symptomatic people. Like WTF? You're doctors! That's what you're supposed to do! Just some things I've noticed.

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Kelly's avatar

I noticed at work the other day, "Kim gave Janet, Josh, Tammy, and Kaley the stomach flu! Now they are ALL out of work!"

We work in retail, at the busiest store in the city. How is it possible to know who got what from who?? I even asked that question, and the accuser quickly backed down.

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Transcriber B's avatar

People so love their narratives. Accusing someone of speading disease, it's a nifty way to take someone they don't like down a notch.

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

Exactly - and what they don’t realize is that if your immune system is healthy to begin with, your body will fight off a virus. It’s only when you’re immune system gets overwhelmed that you get sick.

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JSR's avatar

Drilling this into my children’s brains!!

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Janet's avatar

That’s how they killed the symptomatic earlier. By not seeing them, advising a Tylenol and don’t come in until you have trouble breathing.

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Kat Sienk NV's avatar

What if the covidians are actually pharma bots desperate to keep the narrative that it's the illness not the vaccines causing all the damage and death?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Why did the term BSL-3 all of a sudden start turning up in the Twitter posts?

Way too technical in some ways for the average Joe.

Suspecting DoD or Big Pharma trolls.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

does BSL-3 stand for bull sh-t, lie #3?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That's a good explanation!

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Kat Sienk NV's avatar

Right. Narrative. Psyop.

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rowantree's avatar

Could be! Hard to believe anybody would still be living in fear if a bad cold.

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Transcriber B's avatar

I think a lot out there on social media are bots.

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