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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

We don’t need \/accines anyway. We need to END them, asap. Start reading about them, truly pull back the curtain, and you will flip out.

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Irunthis1's avatar

Yes the mystery as to how, in the early '80's they were deemed "unavoidably unsafe" so as to "deserve" a new law to protect the manufacturers to now where they are ALL "safe and effective" is, indeed, astonishing. I honestly don't understand how anyone can say it with a straight face. But here we are, millions of doctors denying that there could POSSIBLY be even a smidge of adverse reactions to be found in any of them.

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Anthony's avatar

I would argue it is easier to get people to accept food changes. Then move on to vaxxes. That was the point of the "maybe".

As in, maybe they'll accept that we don't need vaxxes if they see the benefits of improved food.

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SteelJ's avatar

Yes, it's the "what else are they lying about?" principle.

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SteelJ's avatar

I was disappointed to see Musk sticking up for polio and smallpox vaccines, and saying they helped end those scourges in his otherwise very worthwhile interview with Tucker Carlson the other day. Nobody knows everything, clearly.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Noticed the same thing; had the same reaction. No Elon, the polio vaccine did NOT prevent polio.

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LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

I had the same thought. However - I beleive many are on the "awakening paradigm" to see & learn what's really happened with the Healthcare in America. Im glad hes questioning *some* vax - thats where it starts. I trust he WILL get there. We have to remember, thia man is running 2 major corporations AND joining the MAHA movement. Maybe he hasnt done the deep ddive - yet.

I'm so pleased the Means siblings are discussing how Rockefeller single-handedly dismantled holistic Healthcare in the US. few want to beleive this but its imperative for folks to understand just how long things have been manipulated.

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SteelJ's avatar

I watched the entire Rogan interview with the Means. Not overly impressed, but a lot to like about Casey. I DO think they're doing a lot of good because so much of the public has so much waking up to do, that if they move in the Means' direction that would be great. Calley said he didn't speak to Casey for a year when she quit her surgeon job. Huh? That was a heroic thing do to, if only more had such principles. Calley is hopelessly naive. He thinks the politicians have no idea about how they are screwing us - it's all just ignorance. Just because they SEEM to be listening to him, and considering what he says, and then SAY "I didn't know that". Jeez, these are politicians, they're expert at placating when it's expedient. Casey is much better IMO.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

...How can you tell when a politician is lying? ...Their lips are moving. ...Naive? Or something else? To wit,

In the siblings' interview with Tucker, Calley also invoked the diversion, "state of emergency." In his opinion we need to declare a state of emergency about Americans' health. --- Really? I wonder what the stripping of rights will entail there when the emergency legislation gets passed?

The currency of lawyers (thus Calley Means) is words. The smart ones know precisely what they are doing. I took a step back after hearing the state of emergency angle. Would/will Calley slide into an executive branch position in accommodating circumstances? Or serve in an advisory position? With the advantage of already being somewhat of a public figure who has apparently come off quite well with his crafted message? I don't know much. Which is why I question most everything.

For your consideration.

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SteelJ's avatar

Already considered. I should have said he "seems" naive. I'm suspicious too. He also claimed all the people working at corporations in fields that are lying to us and profit from f'ing us up are convinced they're helping. Just remembering his words swayed me to the "not naive" side.

Didn't see them on Tucker, thanks for that. What he said there reminds me of an Aseem Malhotra interview on Rogan where he did a good job of describing how corrupt "science" is and same with most all studies, which facilitate harmful government policies. THEN he said we should use government to encourage the foods and treatments HE likes, that have been proven better (by studies and "science"). Really, really dumb? Or something else?

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DrDoug's avatar

This is how you know, he's not really on your side.

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SteelJ's avatar

It's foolish not to consider that possibility. I think it's more likely just a matter of nobody, not even Musk, has a good grasp of everything. But, I could be wrong, you could be right.

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