Trump targets Epstein pals; leaked emails show Epstein was an idiot; Dems caught plotting with a pedophile; Trump slashes costs fast; grocery prices fall; SNAP rules tighten; Ukraine corruption; more.
Reading recent comments here about SNAP subsidies has made me think it would be an improvement for those funds to cover ONLY single-ingredient foods ~ meaning real, actual, nutritious food like blueberries! broccoli! beef! ~ such that any processed/packaged foods which list their ingredients (as required by law, I believe) would include NO COMMAS in their lists of ingredients in order to be purchasable with SNAP funds. I buy meat, poultry, fish, eggs, grains, and countless veg, fruits, etc. in exactly this way, and am unable to think of any reason this policy might NOT be advisable at a state and federal level. (I am referring to items with labelling such as: "Organic Turkey Breast," "Organic Extra-Fine Green Beans [frozen];" "Whole Grain Organic Buckwheat" ~ three examples of items in my 'fridge, freezer, and cupboard this morning.)
Might need to bring Elon back for the computer programming aspect, but the most important question to me is whether we want the USDA to provide NUTRITION ASSISTANCE (which is what SNAP's name stands for) or assistance with convenience and pleasure (yummy, fast edibles). It's so simple: nutrition = no commas. Just wondering why this wouldn't be possible.
And WIC now (2025) has some great new regs regarding things like the authorisation of lactose-free milk, the mandated reduction of sugar in yogurt and other dairy products, the elimination of flavoured milks, etc.
Our brains have adapted over thousands of years to necessitate the high fat and protein of animal milk to grow and function. Raw dairy is full of beneficial microbes and probiotics that lead to good gut health and balance and can also serve the nutritional needs of many animals and plants. I feed raw milk to all my children and animals on our farm, lactating does gobble it up and produce better milk for their kits, I mix it with eggs to feed bottle lambs, chickens utilize it for better egg production, and the dogs and cats love the treat. It can be used as a fertilizer and fungicide in my garden. Everything benefits from suckling on the teat of a cow.
not even remotely true. Human brains were vastly different from cows last I checked. Further the skeletal system of a human could not be more different.
The high protein in Cows milk is designed to take a 60# calf and turn it into
a 1000# heifer in one year. Human milk is designed to transform a 7# infant
with a growing nervous system dependent on essestial fatty acids into a 20 something pound infant in one year.
Is all you are doing Eliza is continuing a bizarre behaviour you were taught.
You are a slave to the animals you keep. Howz about growing and eating plants, ending the animal slavery, and prospering?
No person benefits for suckling another species except in very rare instances of abandonment. If we were "civilized" human moms that cannot lactate would access lactating moms with extra.
Her behavior is not bizarre. Just because you apparently eat a plant based diet and no “meat or dairy” products, why should you slam her as person who chooses a different diet lifestyle than you do? You refer to “ending animal slavery” is if animals that produce food are slaves somehow. Really, seriously?
She is raising her own cows, producing her own raw milk (which milk in raw form is some of the most nutritious food on the planet), for her children and her animals. As she says…”raw dairy is full of beneficial microbes and probiotics that lead to good gut health and balance”…
If you want to expand your horizons about health, wellness, and nutrition regarding the benefits of raw milk, organ meats and nutritious foods in general you might want to check out the Weston A. Price Foundation’s website. They are all about health, wellness, and nutritious foods. And have been promoting their message for over 25 years.
Humans are the only ones to do it AT SCALE; with us, it's an industry. I agree with you, but also think it's a good, though inadequate, development when the relative unhealthfulness of various dairy products is lessened at all, as with WIC currently.
Everyone should forever remember - but it is astonishing the short memories - that it was the un-elected biden regime of tyranny which unleashed exorbitant economic/price attacks on the American people through massive deficit spending and huge increases in the cost of energy - which drives up the cost of everything! But people want to hurt Trump and MAGA so they wrongly - and intentionally - attack there instead of putting the blame where it rightfully belongs.
And another thing which really irritates me is all of the arm chair quarterbacking from lame people who suddenly think they know more than Trump and that he is focused on the wrong issues. Think about that for one damned minute. Trump has brought peace, which means LACK OF DEATH, to many parts of the world FIRST! That also means more peace for the USA. Now that he has mostly accomplished that (albeit still working on the UK/RU mess the criminal BIDEN ADMIN GOT US INTO), he can now pivot to working on reducing the economic strain on us. I don't know about anyone else but I think keeping people alive instead of dead from war, takes priority?? And, everyone should remember he has all along been laying all the fundamental ground work down to create a long lasting golden age for the American people.
So, I say to the ever unhappy, evil, hateful naysayers and those who want to hurt the MAGA movement - ST*U - TAW - for the American people. LET THE MAN WORK!
I spent many years working in local government administering SNAP benefits. I saw a real need for nutrition/cooking education for recipients, however, this was never required. We had people and facilities that provided this, but as long as it was voluntary, it was underutilized. I also could never understand why soda, candy and convenience foods were allowed under SNAP. I always suspected that the large food manufacturer’s lobbies in DC had something to do with this. I think education needs to be included as part of the mandatory work requirements being proposed in SNAP reform as well as restrictions on what can be purchased.
Arguably bizarre that SNAP is a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that does not cover nutritional supplements ... make it make sense. It *IS* because the whole thing is very definitely a brainchild of Big (Bad) Food and its agenda. But we will outwit Them.
Bring back cooking classes to highschool! I remember taking cooking, wood, metal, typing classes in 9th grade...they were great skill development classes.
Bring back home education to high schools! How to read a recipe. Measure items out. Plan out a grocery list. Use grocery list. Also budget. These are not taught anymore. I didn’t care for it when I was in school but I also had it at home but we all had to take classes. Home education. Wood shops welding/ Ag shoo.
The Extesion Service tried an ed program on cooking from scratch for SNAP recipients. They complained it was too hard. Besides they preferred frozen pizza.
If you're living in a hotel with limited ways to cook it would be difficult to do what you suggest. It's not that I disagree with you but I have seen the conditions some of the people live in and I'm not sure they have had a fully functioning kitchen for a while, or ever. The idea of kids living on Kraft (or any brand) of macaroni and cheese makes me cringe but if that's the extent of their cooking ability, that's what they need. Basically heat and serve.
However it’s quite easy to acquire a cooking plate and some skillets/pans. You don’t need a fully equipped kitchen to eat healthy and work with fresh foods. Many small appliances help and are inexpensive.
And a lot of people don’t know how to cook from scratch, whether or not they have a kitchen. I prefer it and believe people receiving assistance ought to be limited to healthy food, but they may need remedial home economics classes.
I've been thinking the same thing. WIC has mandatory nutrition and cooking classes for people who receive it, and those foods are all one-ingredient (milk, cheese, tuna, dried beans/peas, etc.). Why couldn't we use the local Ag Dept nutritionists to do the same with SNAP recipients?
Peanut butter would be a 'yes,' since it's widely available as a single-ingredient product now. Jams and breads and mayo almost always contain sweeteners and/or salt, but since SNAP is only SUPPLEMENTAL, not by any means anyone's total source of money spent on food in any given month (my SNAP benefits equal $5.75 a day; many of my neighbours receive 79 cents a day, currently the minimum the USDA is providing through SNAP for Fiscal Year 2026, which began on October 1st). People receiving SNAP assistance SUPPLEMENT their food buying with SNAP dollars, and buying items like bread, jam, mayonnaise and many other things would be done with NON-SNAP funds if SNAP were reserved for whole, single-ingredient foods.
What would be unworkable in providing at least $24 a month (the current minimum) to qualifying households for purchasing these nutritious single-ingredient foods?
How would you be assured real world application? When I taught my young daughter (she was around 8-9) how to sweep the kitchen, I would walk the length of it barefoot, if my feet picked up dust or trash, she'd do it a second time... Once the floor was clean, she'd mop it, once with soapy water, once with clean water & a little vinegar... Later when she got her first part time job, she was often told that her work ethic was incomparable. When she told me that, it sounded like "Thanks mom!"
Great Idea. "Household Combat 2.0. Fight your mortal enemy, Dr. Processed Ingredients in this spellbinding game. It is literally a death match. Includes scale for daily use. If the scale goes down, you win one match by default!"
There you go! If they have cell phones, they can simply go on YouTube and be instructed on how to cook most anything. No excuses - unless they are severely disabled.
They all have cells unfortunately. Learning is 10,000x better for tasks like meal prep in children. You Tube is useful for things like auto or home repair.
I always had home economics in both junior high and high school. The schools actually had a functioning kitchen! However, I don't remember learning all that much in the classes. I learned to cook from my mother, who made absolutely everything from scratch. The only packaged things she ever bought were frozen vegetables. And then my daughter learned to cook from me.
They can cook. There’s just as smart as we are, maybe smarter. They don’t cook because they don’t want to. Those of us who do the work of cooking are not getting $292 per head of free food every month. Why should they bother to work cooking when they can get free prepared foods?
I know someone who said their card was just reloaded to $300+ as an individual for November--maybe some state $$ involved ? Meanwhile i get to bargain shop AND pay for Statewide "Free Lunches" for entitled future Commie Colorado public school students. Evil-Idiot Voters punishing 5.07% of wage earners to pay for 100% of special-interests and State bureaucracy to run an unaccountable, unending, Dem-controlled scheme to curb "child hunger" and enrich their pals. Conspiracy of LIARS, thieves and fools.
Think it varies by state. In between jobs, for our household of three, we got a max amount of 785. Now that my job has kicked in, it's down to 34 for all of us together. Looking for more progress, but we are headed in the right direction at last.
They certainly lack incentive in far too many cases. As an older woman who cooked and prepared 3 meals a day for my family of 6, but do minimal cooking now that I’m alone; I realize that cooking is a skilled art and if not regularly practiced, one can lose those skills.
they do not cook because they are clueless about health, its origins, or the behavious that secure it. Prepared foods are for those that have zero knowledge about health.
I taught my boys how to do laundry, vacuum, sew and make breakfast. Figured they wouldn't starve, or live in a pig pen. My son tells me his girlfriend is shocked to hear this. I hear, "Thank you mom!"
Good for you, Concerned mom! I too, thought it was important that both my son and daughter know how to separate laundry, wash, and fold, in addition to how to clean a bathroom, vacuum, dust, do dishes, grocery shop, and cook a few basic meals before they moved out of the house.
Luckily, learning to cook is not like learning to do brain surgery. It's perfectly reasonable to require scratch cooking if one is getting the food for free.
Our high school offers free lunch to all students (small town), but our daughter is on a GF DF diet because of her special needs. I suspect her lunches, made from leftovers, are a lot healthier and maybe tastier than what the school offers. We live on a limited budget, but cooking from scratch is cheaper and more nutritious (and more fun) than the alternative.
And it's only about their SUPPLEMENTAL food ... but it could still provide some educational benefit, as many are mentioning. People would at least have to figure out WHAT whole, single-ingredient food(s) to buy, and why, to supplement the rest of their possibly S.A.D. [Standard American Diet]
Phlyme, not in our school system. I called to get our homeschooled son into shop classes, and they don't exist, either. You have to cross-register in the Vo-Tech for that. They substituted computer software certifications for both. That makes some sense, but otoh our local food bank director said not to donate any flour, because "they don't know what to do with it."
You have brought up an excellent point. On YT you can learn how to fix your car, your malfunctioning household appliances, or how to do the Argentine Tango. Between YT, FB and/or Instagram, you can witness an almost infinite number of recipes being prepared. Six months ago I learned how to bake a loaf of Italian bread with four simple ingredients, and all I needed in the way of tools was a stick (wooden spoon) , a mixing bowl and an oven. Now I bake all of my family's bread and it's way better, and cheaper than that which we'd been paying five bucks per loaf at the grocery store. And, let's face it, if you can't afford a $25k/year college degree, short of the credentials - you can probably do better online, for free.
Home Economics classes are what saved me back in the day. I learned how to cook and sew in junior high and high school. That was eons ago and now those classes have been replaced with something more "meaningful." My Home Ec teacher, Mrs. Lyday was my favorite teacher of all time.
Hunger is a wonderful instructor. I taught myself to cook pre-youtube. I don't think every prepackaged item should be banned, just any that contain non-food ingredients and/or chemicals. Mustard and mayo are generally "processed" but a lot of brands are actually edible.
Heavens yes! Go to the nearest thrift store and purchase a crock-pot for five bucks. Now, you have a "kitchen". Online there's an almost infinite number of recipes that can be prepared in a crock-pot.
Well… no excuse .. I have a little portable (very inexpensive) single burner cooktop for my van .., and a little electric water heater works great. There are ways to warm up things and ftickin cook. I do it all the time. Give me a break. Put them in a hotel that has a small refrig and a microwave. The bottom line is they are LAZY! LAZY !! Much easier to buy fast food, order take out, and eat junk. Why should we who cook from scratch pay for this? Have these people go to “drivers ed reeducation classes” in order to obtain their free benefits. Sorry
Something stuck with me I read years ago because it is so true. It was from Dr. Mercola. He wrote that if you're going to consistently eat healthy, somebody is going to have to spend a lot of time in the kitchen. Zero-prep real foods like bananas and other fruit only take you so far. I just had a typical breakfast that required me to scrub my sweet potato, and get two iron skillets dirty cooking my venison, eggs, and sweet potatoes. Topped off by home-made fruit salad of oranges, grapefruit, grapes, apples, and pineapple (all fresh) my wife just made. That's not a hard meal (except the fruit salad is time-consuming), but it's a lot harder than toast and peanut butter, cold cereal, or donuts. We eat a lot of salads from scratch, I like to stir-fry skillets of 8-15 different veggies with meat. My wife cooks traditional American meals, 2-3 veggies and meat or fish. We spend a lot of time in the kitchen. Mercola is right. Cleanup adds to the commitment. It's worth it, for sure, but like you say, most are LAZY! And, many work 2 jobs and have kids at home. Also many dislike kitchen work. It's just a fact that eating crap is far easier.
Sounds like Hubs and I. I had to buy emergency coffee heavy cream from our local store the other day. It has Carrageenan in it. That was the brand with the least offense in the ingredients. The stuff I usually buy has a reasonable expiry date, like within 8 days, but this stuff won't go bad until Christmas. Once you know, you can't unknow. Just finished a crockpot full of venison/caribou stew and knowing that meat wasn't injected to H-E double hockey sticks was amazing.
Yes, serving crap is easier. And do young people know how to cook from scratch? Have they ever learned? Or were their moms busy working, so they never had home cooked meals? I'm not trying to shame anyone, just give an explanation.
Plus... it is lazy or tired? How many people want to come home after working 8 hours, take an hour to cook dinner, and then 15 minutes to clean up? They would rather pop something into a microwave and spend the time relaxing or with their kids.
It doesn’t have to take an hour to cook dinner. I cook from scratch almost every day and my average is 20-30 minutes. Some meals take a little longer. Of course it’s not as easy as shoving a ready made meal in the microwave but it doesn’t have to take that long.
A good salad takes a half hour to make. So , you are so correct. I balance that (not salads obviously) by making in quantity , so I get at least an extra meal if not 2 or 3 out of it. Often freeze some too, so it is net net not a time burden, but a massive quality improvement.
True. I think herd mentality is a factor too. They think "everybody else is eating this way, how bad can it be?" I'd say pretty bad - look at them. And most are susceptible to advertising. The ads wouldn't be steering them wrong, they wouldn't want to hurt them, right?
I take the comments on this subject as explanations, not excuses. People are wired differently. I consider myself lucky I care about taking care of my health, and have a wife that's the same. We must have been born with that inclination since our parents and siblings are not like us.
Personally, I'm planning to pull out the crock to stew some beef cheek meat (very inexpensive) with spices and veggies this week. It is going to be glorious. The crock pot also makes the best pork shoulder turned shredded pork for tacos and sandwiches. Plus it only takes a few minutes to throw everything into the pot and turn to the low setting. This is simple stuff that a middle-school age child could do.
Crock pot "yes", microwave "no". We threw both of ours away after reading the cancer books which all said they are bad news. Everyone knows the heat is different. Anything you heat does not stay hot long compared to oven or stove heat. They heat by accelerating the cells of the food a billion times a second, which obliterates all of the enzymes, minerals, vitamins. There is no nutrition in microwaved food. Have not tried it, but read if you water plants with microwaved water, they will die.
One thing my daughter discovered is Every Plate, one of those companies that sends weekly meals in a box. They're so good for people who work full time and want good ideas and variety in their cooking. Most of the ingredients come in the box with detailed instructions, including photos. Lots of meal choices every week, some very interesting and different. They are fun culinary experiments and are reasonably priced.
Every plate is very reasonable, and the recipes are quick and easy. EBT should pay for it; families would b eating better food, and it would cost less for taxpayers.
Funny how when I worked ‘full time’ in my former career life, I managed to shop for food for myself and cook it as well. I wasn’t married so it was just me, but I had some married couple friends with young kids, and they divided the shopping and cooking duties between themselves each week and got it done.
I think many younger people appear to have had no adults in their lives who taught them how to cook food, and secondly in general are a tad lazy. They want someone to do stuff for them, like how to plan and cook a meal. Like the ‘someone’ who cooked and cleaned up for them when they were growing up.
Oh but now they have ChatGPT as their culinary advisor!
Funny when I was young I wanted to learn how to cook food, especially desserts. But then I was a creative type. I wanted to learn how to sew clothes when I was ten and learn how to garden and grow things with my grandmother, too.
I'm not a camping hiker , but if they can cook in the woods, and they do, so can anyone in a hotel room for goodness sake. They even have access to water and electricity.
I’ve been homeless and with unstable roommates this summer, just trying to get a divorce from covert narcissist type . The homeless population is depending on gas stations to prepare their meals. I can’t do processed food. But I do not have food stamps. I need to apply now.
I’d have starve to death without Aldi
I get sick on additives so I’m gluten free non gmo & Aldi has it affordable. I’ve been able to cook a few times in the last few months. The hotels I saw in Tampa that house families in emergency were unbelievable. Roaches and louse and no cooking facilities, just a small fridge. Some people were using a grill occasionally. Lots of children growing up like that, so sad.
I can’t believe I’m in the position I am now, but it was an educational summer.
And thank you very much for any prayers. It’s all I have right now. I am thankful I didn’t end up as an episode of forensic files. God knows what he did. And I’m still determined to serve the Lord somehow, someday soon.
This is what scares me. I eat a LOT of meat and eggs and I love my diet. I’m so scared what they are doing to livestock and what it will end up doing to me.
There is a staggering amount of sadness in our country. Equally true is that an American with only a microwave is probably an American qualifying for enough help from officialdom to get access to a fridge and stovetop, and one who would likely qualify for emergency funding, which SNAP is *NOT.*
The only way to get access to a stovetop and refrigerator from the government is through low income housing. That line is usually a minimum of 2 years long in my area.
When I was in my early 20s, I lived in what was essentially a studio apartment. I did have a kitchen, but really, it was a sink with a small countertop. I bought myself a hot plate and a toaster oven. I made my own food all of the time because it was more expensive to buy ready made stuff than the raw ingredients. I had to hand wash my dishes, etc.
no reason at all. I lived in a hotel room for several months. You can adapt to that. instead of going to the neighborhood shop for a coke and chips, get a water cooker, some small cooking stove, and cook yourself. Maybe cooking lessons should be included in the package! It seems some of these people cannot boil water.
I don’t know. Every state is different i think. I was eligible in upstate New York being on disability and well below the poverty level. Don’t know about Florida.
You should be eligible because of your disability and your income level. I was talking about affording hotel and being on snap. If you have the money for hotel living then you don’t have a need for snap.
I know 2 people who currently get snap benefits. Both are disabled and cannot work; really, truly cannot work. I want their benefits restored and improved. To believe that everyone on snap is a grifter is to ignore the reality of who most often receives the benefits. Most of the grifting is done by stores who illegally obtain knockoff machines that allows them to charge everything to snap.
I have No problem with people getting SNAP who need it. I think it’s the exception right now not the norm. Cut out the corruption and the people who need it could get more to live off.
It is a good idea, I think. Don't give money. Give "food" but more specifically, emergency food. It is what they sometimes do in catastrophic events. It makes more sense anyway. Even with all of the electronic processing, it takes time and more people involved before anyone actually eats with the current system.
MREs are NOT healthy foods, they are processed and loaded with carbohydrates. Only intended as field rations- eat too many and you don't have to wonder why we have an obesity problem with troops. My son who is in the National Guard gained a bunch of weight last time he was on his yearly one-month training, because all they ate were MREs.
Except if I recall MREs are about 4k calories each, which is why one is supposed to get at least one, preferably two meals from other sources per day when in the field. (Personally, I was fine with C-rats, but 'progress' and all.)
Nope. Just imagine the corruption and contract-bidding for lower costs and quality. Meals On Wheels is a good example of this. The quality varies tremendously depending on where you are in the country. In NYC for example, the portions are miserly, the quality poor and the service unreliable.
One of the subjects of sitcoms was when one of the main characters lends money to another, and the other character spends it frivolously, then the main character gets angry about it. The most recent version of this was "Everybody Loves Raymond" where Ray's brother uses the loaned money to take a vacation.
Similarly, I remember a couple times giving away computer equipment to friends and not liking what happened to it. One friend gave the computer I gave him to a local church. Another girl I have a computer to...to help make her like me, used it to find her first husband. Ah irony.
The lesson learned is that if you give something to someone, you can't control what it is used for. The one exception to this might be government, but there are ways around that as well. I imagine someone with "conditional" SNAP benefits can buy unprocessed foods, sell them, and then use the money to buy processed foods.
If you are caught selling your snap benefits not ONLY should you never collect them again, you should be prosecuted for defrauding your fellow citizens
I definitely am for that, but moreso for no SNAP. How much is a package of ramen noodles? 12 for 3.99. The cost of not having to adhere to any SNAP restrictions...priceless.
Yes but it would be much more difficult and done less often because healthy fresh whole foods have a much shorter shelf life than processed foods. Like one week vs one to two years. We have to stop resisting changes just because some people might find ways to take advantage of it. Compared to present SNAP fraud, changing to only nutritional whole foods would yield much less abuse.
I agree. One of the fundamental laws of human behavior is we are lazy.
The irony is, as we have seen, lack of SNAP benefits led to lowered grocery cost. So without government assistance, people will pay for what they need rather than what they want.
My argument isn't for more SNAP restrictions, but rather no SNAP altogether.
The *entire* point of the program is to assist those who CANNOT pay for what they need. ABUSE and inefficiency of the program are what should be eliminated, not actual assistance for those who need it.
The problem is that the government usually causes more problems than it solves. Add restrictions to SNAP benefits, and most likely, the people being punished are the honest ones. Then again, honest people will feel guilt for having to take the benefits to begin with.
Like honest people, destitute should be able to use SNAP benefits to buy alcohol if they want.
I am sure that SNAP benefits are being used to indirectly buy alcohol. The mere reality of alcohol addiction makes this true.
The irony is that the government was the very one promoting the "food pyramid" which influenced the current obesity crisis.
I am not worried about “punishing”. If there is such a program, it should do one thing—provide food, not treats, not alcohol, nothing but the basics. It’s supposed to be a stopgap and temporary help to prevent people from starving. People who need it can live with the standards, like people using WIC have, for years and years.
It is ironic that the people arguing on behalf of SNAP benefits are usually overweight, but I don't think that is accidental either. If you are poor, the idea would be to buy the most food that could last the longest. So, purchases made with that in mind are usually processed.
That’s a modern thing. People used to make do on inexpensive cuts of meat, beans and grains. Since the welfare programs began, it’s all about laziness and an attitude that everyone else is responsible for fixing your problems.
Didn't say I agreed with him, nor practiced what he preached. Government is never the solution to anything. There is no problem they cannot make worse.
Many parents sell the snap 50 cent on the dollar to support whatever habits they have & the kids fog hungry. I saw the same thing ten years ago in upstate New York Oswego county. I gave a friend food & was heartbroken when she saved the Halloween candy for herself and boyfriend. I brought it for her children! I didn’t talk to her much after that incident.she was second generation of dependence, teaching her kids how to make it 3 generations. So frustrating.
It's a common tale, it also happens with things like child support. The money that is supposed to be used for basic needs, is used for things like alcohol, and tobacco, as well as things that would have been known in the seventies as "treats."
No, no ~ that's why a SNAP recipient who wanted one would use *cash* to buy one, that is the point. My dad AND I both loved Dunkin' apple fritters ~ what's not to like? :) Just not an appropriate purchase for Uncle Sam to subsidise, I would argue.
I saw a reel a while back that spoke of some of the SNAP recepients as unable to cook. For real. They never learned because their mothers and fathers never learns and on up the line. Now, part of me goes, you have GOT to be kidding, but I agree that the USDA should provide nutrition and cooking lessons as part of the requirements of receiving SNAP. Beyond that, I find it infuriating that so many are on the dole and ok with it, if they are real people. But, the level of corruption is astonishing. We talk about Zelensky, but we have had the same problem. People steal, no matter if it is illegal, and we have to figure out how to have real safeguards.
There are definitely real people on the dole and ok with it, I grew up knowing many like that. It’s an ongoing problem and has only gotten worse since I was a kid.
There is something to be said about a society that has no shame. All bets are off. You have people with anxiety disorders going on planes with their emotional support animals. People going to shopping centers dressed in pajamas.
I didn't have cooking experience either, but I can microwave, and I know how to boil water, also know how to use an oven.
That being said, my mom was very protective of her kitchen. She cooked alone, never asked for help, and definitely did not want it. The kitchen was her domain. There was also no complaining about the food. She was a good cook, but if we didn't like something, we did without.
As a SNAP recipient, I fully agree with you about the one ingredient qualifier. I have always found it weird that I can use my SNAP benefits to buy any number of crap items, but cannot use it to purchase a very inexpensive rotisserie chicken from Costco because it is considered a restaurant food. So a huge very nourishing $5 whole chicken, which is less expensive than even the uncooked version of the same chicken in the cooler case, is not allowed. There are many dumb rules like this, unfortunately.
IKR? Weird, and frustrating. I commented above that I think the regs say something like SNAP items cannot be sold "hot at the point of sale," although now there are at least nine states that choose to offer RMP to their SNAP residents ~ a "Restaurant Meals Program." Certain restaurants, such as some McDonald's, can opt to participate; it is up to each restaurant whether or not to do so. Also re: hot food ~ in my city, Amazon chooses to offer the rotisserie chickens in at least one of their supermarkets cooled, deboned, and repackaged. They have them in a refrigerator case featuring prepared foods like sandwiches, and that is the only way we SNAP users can use SNAP funds for Amazon rotisserie chicken. Comical, really ~ in this case, the *more* prep on the part of the seller makes the food a covered benefit rather than not. Make it make sense ...
Yes, that is definitely nonsensical. Another reason why a WIC style program makes more sense. That way rotisserie chicken could be acceptable but not, say, popcorn chicken.
I think you'll find that many SNAPers, not all but in general don't cook and don't know how to cook (I exempt Hispanic illegals from this group; they still tend to cook, and pinto beans and rice are favorites)
Our local food bank has a very difficult time getting American patrons to pick whole foods over processed, and veggies are REALLY unpopular. This is not an urban area either.
Typical story is when our church group was putting on soup/sandwich luncheons at the food bank (which opened at 1pm on Thursdays). Heard many variations on the theme of "No thanks, we just ate at McDonalds"
That’s a “them” problem in that case. Sorry, I have little sympathy for people who whine about going hungry yet only want to eat McDonald’s and processed foods and turn up their noses at anything else. Beggars can’t be choosers as they say, and if you’re that picky, you can figure out a way to fund your own food budget 🤷♀️
The understanding "liberal" way of thinking is.... "the poor should be able to eat whatever food they want, just like everyone else. You're mean to suggest they don't eat at mcdonalds."
How long before fast food places start accepting SNAP, etc?
I’m not asking SNAP users to live any differently than I did when I made less than the poverty level for several years. I didn’t receive any help from anyone to pay my rent or bills or food yet I still managed. I didn’t get a lot of treats and had to be super frugal but I got by. I didn’t think it was anyone else’s responsibility to pay for those things for me. This whole entitlement mentality is out of hand.
However.... it seems that younger generations are wired differently today. Not all, but some. Perhaps it's the "special snowflake" effect? A culture of narcissism? Social media? IDK. But I do think for many the idea of "cooking your own food" is in the same category as "build a car yourself."
There were people like that when I was growing up too. But it’s possibly become more common or acceptable. There are definitely lots of people making all kinds of excuses for this population in any case.
Had a flat tire once. My 30’s something man friend came out to help. All he had was “ I can call triple A “. He couldn’t get the lug nuts loose either, he didn’t know how to do it. I showed him. I’m 90 pounds and frail at the moment.
Because they are “wired differently” (meaning they’d rather not be inconvenienced by working so they could take care of themselves), doesn’t mean the rest of us should take care of them. I worked in food stamps for about a year when I was younger, and the majority of recipients were able bodied. For many, it was generational. Definitely a choice. Very few who just fell on hard times, were in between jobs etc.
Nah, it's not narcissism. It's knowing you're going to work your whole life at a job you hate and never be able to afford a house or a family, while all the while your tax money finds its way up the corporate food chain. Given that equation, I don't blame any American for getting as much entitlement from gov't programs as they can.
The irony in your statement is that the people who eat at McD's are for the most part poor or incredibly health-unconscious, the exceptions being people who are traveling and have few options near the freeway exits. There's a wide range in eating "just like everyone else", true. But I'm guessing most people don't eat regularly at McD's, or at least I hope not.
There are at least nine states now that offer RMP ("Restaurant Meals Plan") to certain SNAP recipients (must be over 60 years old, disabled, or homeless to be eligible), where SNAP dollars can be used to purchase meals at certain restaurants, such as McDonald's. Each participating restaurant signs up individually to be part of this plan, and the state maintains a list of participating restaurants.
Yeah you can't have it both ways and I would argue, if someone can whine about being hungry, but argue that they only eat Mcdonalds, are not going hungry. When you are really hungry just about anything sounds good.
I don't care if beggars are choosers (like who am I to judge) but I have zero sympathy for people who make stupid health choices. I also don't like tax dollars going to subsidize (bc that's what it is) a private restaurant chain. If tax money is getting distributed to restaurants it should be to mom and pops', food-trucks and the like so the money stays in the economy instead of bleeding upward to corporate coffers. But really, unless you have some outstanding situation, like homelessness or fire loss, you shouldn't be getting restaurant vouchers.
My Aunt tells me they have a food bank at her church in Spokane, and have had parents turn up their noses at generic Mac-and-cheese because they want Kraft. 🙄
I would be willing to bet that Kraft puts addictive additives in theirs. The book "Fast Food Nation" opened my eyes to a lot when it came out (in ancient times :)
Our church used to do a Tg meal but stopped when the guests complained about having “turkey again”. There were lots of similar meals at the time during Nov. so the people got bored. Now none of the churches do it.
(if I knew how to add emoticons, there would be several grinning faces here, lol) Indeed! OF COURSE, *everyone* is free to buy anything he or she wants in any supermarket, always! The only issue at hand is the expenditure of government (meaning: taxpayers') funds ~ should I (or any citizen) demand same to fund my "treat" budget? *Results of this poll may vary, as our faithful author likes to say. :)
I totally agree and that’s why I came to comment this morning. I’d rather see soup kitchens where people could eat three meals a day from food that is donated from local farms or restaurants or grocery stores that can’t be sold at full price. Let’s get rid of food deserts.
I just read an article on the 3 meal a day "scam". We don't need to eat that much and Americans certainly overeat everywhere. Hubs and I are eating one meal a day with coffee in the morning and we feel better than ever. It is a very interesting time, figuring out all the things that make us healthier. Eating what is in season is something nobody ever mentions either, but I think it is worth taking note. IMHO.
Hubs and I have eaten just 2 daily meals for years, and are better off for it. I actually couldn't eat a lunch because my breakfast keeps me full for many hours. Eggs/bacon/cappuccino and a few cherry tomatoes and half an avocado each if we have them, then dinner of some sort of meat and veg. We buy everything fresh and are lucky that California does have an abundance of produce always available.
My first meal is noon at the earliest if I eat two meals. If I’m busy I’ll go until dinner and only have one meal, maybe a snack an hour later. My morning vitamins are taken with electrolytes and that holds me for a few hours. But then my bullet proof coffee with MCT oil and collagen peptides can make it easy to not feel hunger until dinner time. Intermittent fasting has been great. I lost so much weight on Keto, and I’ve kept it off because of fasting.
We had the same dad, lol! When my mother would say, "Russell, are you ready for lunch?" my dad would invariably say, "What time is it?" It drove her crazy that he never seemed to know if he was hungry. For 65 years. But she kept doing it. And so did he. People are adorable.
I think it depends on the person and your lifestyle. I am extremely active and do well with three meals a day. But I can see how it might suit some people to only have one or two.
Well, I think organic is a great *personal* standard, but for GOVERNMENT DOLLARS provided to qualifying low-income recipients, I think simply actual whole food would be a big improvement to the current low standard when it comes to defining "nutrition assistance."
Generally speaking, the more demand for organic produce, the better, but I don't think it's widely available enough for it to be reasonable to subsidise ONLY organic.
I don’t think I have EVER read ANY comment from you that is not some form of negativity or complaint. Reality is not *just* bad things. I acknowledge the bad but can also find the good. I prefer to find solutions to problems rather than endlessly complain about what’s wrong. It’s also okay to make progress in small steps and not solve the entire problem at once. That’s still making a positive difference and is to be celebrated imo.
The way around this is to stop subsidizing big agriculture and chemical companies to poison our foods. We should actually (or at least eventually) be striving towards an elimination of "organic" "standards", which are also a scam in so many ways, though started with the best intentions. If the agrichemicals were forbidden there would be no need for "organic" and we'd all be healthier. It's been over a hundred years since there was no poison in any of our food. Even in the late 1800s and early 1900s there was widespread adulteration in the food of the poor. You can read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle to get an overview of what caused so much government regulation and intervention in the food supply in the first place, rules and regulations the parasite class has harnessed to our detriment.
Yes, but my point is still the same. Many organic products simply are not available in any form in many parts of the country - rural areas, midwest, inner cities, etc.
Rural areas? Are you joking? That’s probably the easiest place to find organic food. Have you ever lived in a rural area?
And let’s not have the perfect be the enemy of the good. If people are at least eating minimally processed food, even if it’s not organic (and some farms actually produce pretty much organic foods without the certification because it can be expensive) is much better than what is going on now.
As I said above, I live rural. Largest grocery store is 30 miles away. Their selection of organic is practically non-existent. Drives me insane. And, when the little stand in that town is open, things are expensive. I was going to buy a homegrown ribeye for myself, but it was 23 bucks for a .82 steak. The struggle is real and I want to support local, but I have to go 75 miles to get real cream for my coffee. Like I said, now that I know, I can't unknow about all the BS they put in our food.
Yeah I think it varies by location. Could you get in touch with a farmer who sells 1/4 or half directly then you can freeze it? Where I grew up the decent grocery stores were 30 minutes away but we went every two weeks and stocked up, and supplemented from the garden and foraging otherwise.
Yes, that is what people used to do! Keep a couple of chickens and have a small garden. Some cities have community garden plots available. I think there are lots of approaches that could help solve the problems, that don’t involve the government giving people what amounts to a blank check for buying junk.
Well that has not been my experience at all. I lived in a rural area for many years, and we foraged, had a garden, and could get good quality meat and eggs from neighbors and farmers.
You referred to “many areas around the country”—which areas specifically? That’s pretty vague and quite a generalization. Do you have reliable data sources on that?
Organic and pesticide-free is hard to find at grocery stores in much of middle America and the East Coast, especially in smaller towns, outside of the big cities.
Simply not true. While inner city bodegas might not carry organic, every grocery store in every place I've ever lived did. (which absolutely includes the Midwest, South, NYC and upstate, west coast , rural, semi-rural and urban).
I think people need to read more carefully. I never said organic products aren't available - there is a serious lack of variety in the places I noted. Prices also tend to be quite high. I've lived most of my life in rural areas and have extensive agricultural and gardening experience - from family owned CAFO farm to starting a small scale organic hop farm and small scale organic vegetable farm. I'm very familiar with what I speak of.
" Many organic products simply are not available in *any form* in many parts of the country - rural areas, midwest, inner cities, etc.
So yes, I did read your comment carefully.
Perhaps you meant that ALL organic foods are not available in EVERY area, which of course would be accurate, since all forms of any product are never available everywhere.
I think you used too large a brush, since I can directly contradict your contention that organic is somehow difficult to find. Never found it to be an issue.
Eating well is not cheap. Europeans spend twice as much as Americans on food because most of them won't eat crap. I got comments for eating day old bread. Again, it comes down to priorities. Tats and apps, or good food?
One thing I think is important is to eat seasonally. Like now would be squash/sweet potato season, summer is pineapple, and we just came out of apple season. Just my opinion, but it seems the smart way to eat since that is what our ancestors HAD to do.
I agree completely but snap benefits PepsiCo, Nestle, Kellogs and all other big food conglomerates that are profiting off poor people and their children. I see it everyday. Lunchables, juiceboxes, flavored cereals, Mac and fake cheese....all of it. These companies market this to parent and that is what is at the convenience stores, dollar stores and grocery stores. Tax payer pays Nestlé who them poisons the people creating health problems and then off to the corporate doctor. No politician will EVER stop this money laundering gravy train.
I think one of the. Ingest problems with SNAP is person receiving it is selling their EBT card for
Cash…i.e. get $5000 EBT card and sell it for $3000. Both people are fraud the government. They should at least have their name on it and have to show an ID to use it.
I used to work in a grocery store in the ‘70’s and EBT could not even be used to purchase cooked food from the deli. Raw shrimp-okay. Steamed shrimp-nope. I heard that now they can use EBT at McDonald’s? That can’t be true. Looks like the whole program is another grift that big companies figured out how to get their piece. People who need help should of course be funded but young, able bodied citizens should be given job counseling.
SNAP $$ cannot be used to purchase anything "purchased hot at point of sale" ~ I think that's how the requirements are worded. Amazon, at the largest (and maybe at all three) of their supermarkets in my city, cools and debones and repackages the meat from their rotisserie chickens for sale to SNAP users (and anyone else).
I cashier in a gas station. Whenever I see a person approach my counter with an armload of snacks and drinks, I know they're going to whip out an EBT card so the taxpayers can pay for it.
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This is genius!!!!! Make then use that Real ID . You have to provide proof of citizenship or birth certificate to get one now. No state ID cards allowed.
Have to disagree about Real ID. I believe this program implemented as one more step to digital everything, i.e., super control.
I just renewed my DL, no chance I will ever voluntarily get RID, which is more costly. Instead I ponied up for passport card last time I renewed, and will use as needed.
A citizen can do most anything with the less expensive DL or state issued non-driver ID.
Sorry I advise against the “Real ID”. It is direct to digital ID. That is the globalists plan for us to be completely under their control. State photo Id is a good start.
Wow. Nothing like the government getting people to hate on those poor enough to be on food stamps in order to get the sheeple to accept Real ID! No thanks! I'll take grifters over signing away my right ANY DAY! Not that those are the only choices. Thus positing creates a false dichotomy. Food stamps can get cleaned up without resorting to 1984 measures.
One idea, not yet completely formed, is to take the "public grocery" concept from the communists and apply it to only SNAP. Instead of waiting for their ideas to fail, implement it properly within current systems. When government pays for things, those things go up considerably in price. This isn't necessarily the case when government supplies things directly though. Public Grocery workers could consist entirely of the "Will Work For Food" crowd... this could be so much fun.
Doesn't need to be "modified"...simply "clarified." Citizenship was never meant to be conferred on a child simply because their parents set foot in the USA. The citizenship clause says "and under jurisdiction thereof"...and illegals are not under jurisdiction of the state. SCOTUS will eventually have this case...
They are called “anchor babies”…there is a whole industry using “birthing hotels” for pregnant women coming here just to give birth for that citizen paper for the child. They flourish in SF and NYC.
I’ve heard of that despicable ploy. Only USA is dumb enough to allow this. My cousin, citizen of Austria, married a Chinese woman while working in China. When the air pollution was ruining his lungs, he moved his family Vienna, Austria. His wife and daughter had FIVE YEARS to learn German or they would be deported. How do you think that law would fly in USA?
I remember eating at a cafe in Vienna ~ a decade ago, and our server was a young Romanian women. Her English was good, but she said she got a lot of negative comments from locals she waited on that she did not speak German.
I am in a household every month for 12-14 days. Immigrants. One of them has been in the US for 20 years and a couple years ago got her citizenship. She does not speak English. It drives me crazy when I am there. I have decided that I will no longer play "charades" with her in order to communicate. The rest of the household accommodates her by speaking her native language.
My understanding is that this is the issue. One person in a household receives the benefits and must be a citizen. But the size of the benefit is determined by the number of people in the household and those people need not be citizens. Or even related.
I think that might be changing under the current regime, and that the requirements are becoming stricter relative to the *lawfulness* of individuals' presence in whatever state it is. That's my understanding of the latest developments, and certainly my hope for the future.
The problem, as I understand it, is that the funds come from the feds but approved recipients are handled by the states. The feds have requested the data from the states, in order to determine who is illegal and receiving funds. At last reading, only blue states refuse to provide the information.
Keep in mind that one if the things which DOGE accomplished was to allow different agency computers to talk to each other.
The State’s are self-reporting and the Federal Government reimburses them. The sticky situation is when the State over reports their SNAP payments… then they owe it the government.
It does not appear to be so. The non-citizen parent can receive on behalf of the citizen child but does not have to include other members of the household in the application, thus not exposing any other illegals.
My post exactly. Make ALL US LEGAL CITIZENS reapply, with valid birth certificate or naturalization papers. You don’t get a voter registration approval UNTIL YOUR LEGALITY IS VETTED. No fake refugee citizenship allowed. This will clean up the dead and double dippers as well as the illegals.
I tried to follow the lines to see for whom your comment was directed. If me, I am too old and, more importantly, too honest. No one wants to hear honest. And that's the God's honest truth.
If everyone who is on SNAP is forced to reapply, in person, to verify if they are still eligible, I am guessing that at least one-quarter, if not one-half, of the current recipients will disappear from the rolls. The illegals, the double dippers, the deceased, the couch potato 20 somethings living in the basement, and the completely non-existent claimants will all be removed from the program! Hoorah!!
Nah, liars and gimmegrants don’t think rules apply to them, they’ll find some lawyer to fight for “their right to democracy” Argh! I’m so sick of the fraud.
LEGAL immigrants, ones who actually paid the fees and followed the rules, I don’t consider gimmegrants. But the swarm of fake “refugees” are VERY SUSPECT.
Yes, the best thing is just to deport all of them. SNAP should only be given to people who already have a job, but just don’t make enough. Everyone else on SNAP should just be deported even if they’re citizens.
My understanding is that the recipients are currently screened. But the size of the benefit is based on the size of the household and household members are neither required to be citizens nor related to the recipient. So when people say "illegals do not receive benefits" that is technically true, but many damn well benefit from the recipient's benefits.
Yes, another institution marched through. And whoever tries to change it has thousands of employees that don't want to change it because Orange man bad, and , well if the program is cut 50 to 75 percent, most of them lose their jobs.
You have to read ingredients everywhere! Aldis does carry 3 ingredient sourdough bread that is excellent. They also carry multiple pastas from Italy which are minimal ingredients as well. Aldis is also great place for organic fruit and veggies....a lot more options than regular stores and better prices.
Never having been a health conscious person, this all seems odd for ME to be saying. But, like some find Jesus and tell about it, I found health and like to share. I have healed my daughter's DIBILITATING mental health issues with avoiding all ENRICHED products.....folic acid is synthetic and toxic to many. Seed oil, artificial dyes, and names you cant pronounce are as evil as the devil.
A lot of their goods come from Europe, where there are more stringent rules about additives. You need to read labels, as always, but you can get a lot of decent products at Aldi.
Yes, I used to shop at an Aldi, and that particular store remodeled four years ago, and carries even more items. You can't beat their prices on all the basics, and they have an excellent selection of produce, and now carry even types of "gourmet" products at very reasonable prices. They have a huge frozen food section as well. Their fresh meats are a great buy, the last time I was able to go there. Sadly, I cannot drive there anymore, but I may look into their delivery option using Insta Cart.
I think Aldi is a German company, so it would make sense that many of their products would come from Europe . We don't have an Aldi anywhere near us, so I've never shopped there
Right. I’m not sure why Kathleen is calling out Aldi’s. Is it any worse than any other grocery store? And shopping there for many years now. It’s a lower priced option to Trader Joe’s, which offers many similar products at a higher price. That said, I tend to avoid buying processed foods in general.
People care about food more in general in Europe, I find. They have higher standards. A significant number of people here are only too happy to eat sub par food.
I am about to place my first order from Azure Standard. They are a large organic farm with their own line of products. They also have cultivated 1000s of organic and health conscious brands. They sell and drop ship to community drops. I have 3 drops within 30 to 45 min from me. I have a 30 min drive to get to any store anyway. You can find locations of community drops on their web page. Im in nw fl and they drop once a month. Prices are good, especially if buying in bulk.
I have been hearing more lately about not relying on Italian flour and bread in future. I got impression it was related to Italy doing something to it in future but maybe it was tariff related. I've read a lot recently about importance of freshly milled flour as it oxidizes quickly. That has made.me.rethink Italian flour.....cant be fresh Id think. I see alot of people.starting to mill their own flour and having great health benefits.....I just dont have THAT kind of energy anymore. I am toying with idea of making my own sourdough bread....perhaps, maybe, I might.
I don't mill my own flour, but I did start making sourdough-- it's so fun and easy, especially with the helpful information people are putting online (I'm making homemade crackers right now with leftover starter).
I only recently learned about Azure. They have a drop in a city near me where I used to have to drive to for groceries, at the nearest Walmart and Aldi. However, the last year I have had to rely on food deliveries, no longer able to make that 30 minute drive. And my food budget is too small to be able to spend any on Azure, unfortunately.
Yes freshly milled flour is healthier and has all the nutrients naturally that are removed from the processing that are then added back through chemicals. This video by Bread Beckers talks about the basics of milled flour.
That’s the way to go. You can grind your own wheat berries in an Osterizer blender. Keep the berries in the freezer until ready to use and bugs won’t get to them.
Thank you for this. I've been looking for an alternative to the local rancher who only wants to sell a 1/4 cow. Other alternatives require membership, minimum purchases and are expensive.
Ugh! This just doesn’t end. The US allows so many ingredients that are outlawed in other countries. I know this has been mentioned already but I hate it. I will go buy a year’s worth of pasta
Such a bummer. I went to Italy 6 weeks ago. American pasta (wheat) is very inflammatory so I avoid it. I had heard from others that in Italy the pasta doesn't cause problems so I tried it myself and confirmed it. So I will occasionally buy pasta now but only if it's made in Italy then Trump decides to tariff it 100%. Ugh
Having spent two years in Italy, I highly recommend only buying the "best" pasta, rather than the cheaper brands, such as Barilla, Cucina (Aldi), etc. It means spending a little more but not that much.
If your iodine is off, it messes with your thyroid. Conditioners in breads and pizza dough really mess with the iodine levels. Mercola wrote about this year's ago.
Yes, the bromine they put in all flour products displaces the iodine and make you deficient. You’ll be cold and your hair will fall out snd you’ll get cysts and tumors and skin tags among other bad things.
Taught by a PhD herbalist, any easy way to tell if you are deficient in iodine, get a small bottle from the drugstore, dab a quarter size spot on your arm. If it’s gone in 24 hours, you are likely deficient. Deficiency can affect a number of functions to include your heart.
My friend's thyroid doctor told her to avoid carrageegan, which is made from seaweed. Apparently loaded with iodine, which was messing with her numbers. The heavy cream I buy from Costco has it, and I see it in a lot of other ingredient lists. I can't even trust my morning coffee anymore.
I used to like to have a small bag in my purse while traveling. Oftentimes, it was just enough to tide me over until I found a restaurant to have a real meal.
Yeah, I am an inveterate bargain hunter and while we are pretty heavy on real foods vs processed junk, although I have a few weaknesses, I am not paying more for some of this stuff billed as healthier options and lean towards everything in moderation. Not convinced that organic is the panacea that some claim it is, although I have friends who swear it has cured various issues. MIL has a big garden and I plant an anemic one with little success, but mostly just buy the cheaper options and have no health issues other than recovering from a knee injury that had nothing to do with what I eat, lol.
Finally just started buying mints made in France with only 3 ingredients.
"Les Anis de Flavigny mints contain only three primary ingredients:
Sugar (beet or organic cane sugar)
Natural mint flavoring
Green aniseed (a single seed forms the center of each candy)
The mints are all-natural, free from artificial colors, flavors, preservatives, and GMO ingredients. The slight color sometimes seen (in other flavors) results from the natural color of the flavorings, and the mint candies themselves are naturally white from the sugar coating."
My weakness is potato chips (though not in large quantities) and wine. I have heard that the 2 vegetables that are nearly impossible to not have been affected by bioengineering or GMO are potatoes and corn.
I attended a lecture on Nutrition years ago. They actually said that there is more Nutrition in the cardboard box than in the contents. This was in reference to boxed breakfast cereals. Thankfully, there are entire aisles in the grocery store I don't need to walk down.
We have a grain grinder and it is wonderful. Bread, muffins, waffles, and more. We are just getting into sourdough. Freshly ground flour is in the bread within 15 minutes which preserves the Vitamin E among other nutrients.
The home milling of wheat and ancient grains has exploded. I ordered a mill in July, was backorder till Dec. I patiently waited, but last week the date was pushed to late March. I canceled, ordered a different brand. Also backorder, but have hope for an update next week. These are popular brands, and they can't manufacture them fast enough for demand. People are waking up to what is in our food, and doing something about it.
YES. So disappointing. Cereals are one of the worst. Oats too It’s insane isn’t it? You think you are eating healthy until you read the fine print. READ everything. Put an app on your phone. Like YUKA. It’s not perfect but it can be extremely helpful.
It’s overwhelming but take baby steps. One thing at a time, for instance, change your oil you use NO veg, NO Canola. NO seed oils. Instead use Olive oil, butter.
I switched four years ago and only use butter, saved strained bacon grease, tallow, avocado oil, and occasionally coconut oil or olive oil. Including products I buy with multiple ingredients, I don’t buy if any seed oils are used. Huuuuge difference.
Yep, I have used only real butter for years, and stopped using seed oils a few years ago, now only olive oil. I do have coconut oil and avocado oil in the pantry, and after I cook ground beef I save the drained fat in the freezer.
I use mainly olive oil and butter with occasional use of coconut oil. Olive oil has been my go-to for many years, since my mom was half Italian and I was used to always having it on hand.
Avocado oil has a higher heat point so that’s why I use it more for cooking. But I use olive oil when it’s a low or no heat dish. I dry tomatoes in the summer and pack them in olive oil with rosemary and fresh basil and OH MY LORD the delicious flavor of that olive oil is heaven. So when I’m done using the tomatoes I store the leftover oil for cooking. Yummmm
Since I read that olive oils can be adulterated I am leery of olive oils and use avocado or coconut oils for frying. They have a higher smoke point too.
I am careful if where I buy them and their origins. But yes, that is unfortunately an issue with some.
As they say in the article you linked, you can distinguish good olive oil by taste. My current favorite is from Portugal and tastes very “green” and “grassy” and “bright.” It’s delicious.
no kidding. It's the recent we seldom eat out or take out anymore. You can safely assume over 90 % of restaurants fry in soybean oil, and over 95% of restaurants cook in canola or soy. So unless you are eating raw, or steamed, or baked, you are getting seed oils when you eat out. And raw salad dressing willnhave seed oils in them most of the time
I buy non GMO gluten free there. Getting me through the roughest time I’ve ever had, seeking a divorce, had to flee. I like the cheeses from Australia and Ireland but I always have to read labels. It’s always changing
Thanks! Autoimmune issues w/mold , every day a different challenge. My husband has been dating his ex my whole marriage and milking my mom for money. I thought I was allergic to so many foods, once I ran away, I’m not allergic to them. I wonder what he was doing to cause my mysterious weight loss . On the Ritchie Shoemaker protocol , as best i can, helps a lot.
Also in SoCal I once went to their nearby store and found the bathrooms were unisex. I hate that. Where I live most of the bathrooms are still segregated, sometimes with an extra bathroom for ???
I will stick with Trader Joe’s. The two chains apparently have similar origins (founders I think) but different ownership.
There is an app called “Yuka” with which you can scan the bar code on any product. It will tell you all of the ingredients and whether they’re healthy or not. Also, on some of the products you can email the manufacturer and ask them to take all the crappy ingredients out.
That bug dye (red) is the only thing I am allergic to. It makes my eyelids swell so I can barely open my eyes. It developes slowly and takes about 12 hours to go away, with antihistamines. 😖 But it is ‘natural’ so not a problem.🙄
I was surprised that a company like Tillamook would use it. Not sure if they still are, but I remember once I realized what I was eating, I tossed the rest.
Welcome to Aldi world, Jeff! Managing an Aldi store, and then multiple stores was my first job out of college; from 87-92. German owned, their operations could teach DOGE a few lessons. Everything they do is in the name of efficiency, which is how they keep their prices so low. A flooring tile company went out of business and they bought the entire inventory for a big discount, and every floor in every store at the time had the same tile. I got a bonus for discovering that boat batteries from Wal Mart worked in our floor scrubbing machines and were half the price of the batteries from the machine manufacturer. They monitor and only carry items they can sell in volume and thus get volume discounts on everything they carry. So it's likely you won't get everything on your shopping list there but the things you get are cheaper than competitors. We were required to visit competitor stores and price staples like milk and bread and if anyone beat the price, they would lower it.
Their world headquarters is in my city so I’ve shopped there for over 18 years. I don’t get everything there but I get quite a lot. I do get upset when I fall in love with something they sell then they stop carrying it as it was a “special” offering. Soooo many of my favorites have disappeared. Most recently Savorite almond crackers with a VERY low carb count. I loved those and used them as a substitute for bread crumbs etc. They supported low carb lifestyle for a while there but recently stopped carrying many things. 😫 But I will always love them because they cut our grocery bills in half.
Yes, the 'special purchase' items have expanded massively since I worked there. Have bought everything from coco liners for my hanging planters to German spätzle in the special purchase aisle. But they do shift items around a lot - goes back to volume - with limited space/small stores. they focus on the fastest moving items. So if I like something that's more niche-y I stock up just in case.
Excellent. I have a new one 5 mins from my house and have only been twice. Yesterday I picked up lot of produce and different things I want to try and see if I like. I just have to get organized and remember to bring bags but I'm getting there.
I used large boxes to pack my groceries in my trunk from the cart. Easier to stack and carry. Then returned my cart to get my quarter back. No carts were ever in the parking lot. Genius idea of Aldi.
I saw stories that they were the first to in stall vax passport technology to enter and shop at stores in the UK and Europe. Had little turnstiles like in a subway. Would scan proof of vax to let you in to shop. The value is there, I make my negotiations, but I will never forget. And if they ever try it at my local store rest assured I'll never shop there again.
Wow, never saw anything about that! I don't remember even being yelled at for not wearing a mask back when our county had a mask mandate in place when I shopped at our local Aldi, although it's possible I've forgotten. Most retailers were pretty hit and miss in our area, it was mostly a random employee who was power tripping.
Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black: so the WaPo editors say that Trump is keeping the story alive! Have they noticed what the dumbos in congress and the press have been saying for a year? I guess that is too much news for the propaganda brains to understand
It's always the same people in the media doing awful things. Stacey Plaskett, Delegate from the Virgin Islands where Epstein's Lolita Island was, takes a willing suspension of disbelief to imagine she and authorities in the USVI didn't know what was going on. Some sleuthing on her revealed some interesting connections.
Like Cong. Jamie Raskin. Who leaked the stolen emails in order to try to embarrass Pres. Trump:
"I had several offers when I came out of law school. And interestingly, (Rep.) Jamie Raskin, who was the lead impeachment manager, was my professor in law school. And when I had three or four offers when I was coming out of law school, he was the person who said, “You really should go and be a prosecutor."
Another interesting connection to Plaskett. James Comey:
"Plaskett then worked on the staffs of Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson and his successor, James Comey. Plaskett left government to be a deputy general counsel at United Health Group, then moved to the U.S. Virgin Islands and worked in the private sector and with the Virgin Islands Economic Development Authority."
About that "economic development" in USVI. How she upset the VI favorite to win her Delegate seat. Epstein's interests in USVI were certainly a boon to the economy:
"In what has to be one of the biggest upsets in Virgin Islands politics, Attorney Stacey Plaskett has won the Delegate to Congress race against seasoned politician Shawn-Michael Malone, who’s also the sitting Senate President and a well-loved figure in the Virgin Islands."
Plaskett doth protests her connections to Epstein a bit much, no?:
"In 2014, while scrutiny was being re-ignited around Epstein’s plea deal that allowed him to serve only 13 months in jail after being accused of pedophilia and major sex crimes, the V.I. Economic Development Authority, chaired by now-governor Albert Bryan Jr., approved the renewal of the South Trust Company’s tax benefits."
[FF Note - Stacey Plaskett worked for VI EcoDevo from 2007-2014 as General Counsel. Nope, nothing to see there]
"Ms. Plaskett said that she was unaware of Epstein’s campaign contributions until after it was reported in the press subsequent to her campaign’s federal filing. However, newly unsealed evidence submitted by JPMorgan’s legal team show that Delegate Plaskett in 2018, had personally requested that an invitation to her Bloomberg fundraiser be sent to Epstein. “I would be grateful for his support and the support of those that he may direct to assist me,""
Same people. Same exact people at the heart of awful things in US governance. Stacey Plaskett, connected to Jamie Raskin, Jeffrey Epstein, and even throw in some James Comey, to boot!
Was this a Trump bait when he implied releasing the files was absurd? I agreed that the Democrats had almost two decades to hang him if it was there, and the same time to erase what they could. So yes, their Providence could be tainted.
Yet maybe Trump knew what was there was mainly the Democratic party and wealthy affiliates, so he tagged them to think he desperately did not want the files released. If they are as they appear, the DOJ has had time to document the Providence of whatever is in them. I assume this includes the Grand Jury records the Democrats blocked the release of.
The only way this could have stayed hidden was with bi-partisan involvement. ICBW but I think the pedophila was just one prong of Epstein's game. I think it was a large, international blackmail operation that Epstein was the face of but was not the controlling force. That is why so many people were obviously involved with Epstein but vigorously deny sexual impropriety. But I would bet dollars to donuts that there was a different impropriety involved.
He IS keeping it alive. First, get the Democrats to all vote for the files to be release and when they implicate the Clintons and others, they can't say he was going after his political enemies because Trump DIDN'T want the files released. Keeping it at the forefront with fake fighting with MTG, Massie and others will keep eyes on it until it plays out.
I'm sure that the SEC commissioner will lock em up.
served as SEC Chairman from 2017-2020. This is Trumps investigator. How about the stock deals related to all financial decisions made by Trump for Pfizer.
The snide claim that "the SEC commissioner will lock 'em up" as "Trump's investigator" while sneering about phantom Pfizer stock deals is a sloppy mash of errors and innuendo. Jay Clayton was SEC Chairman, not commissioner, and his 2020 warnings against insider sales—however lax—never tied Trump to any personal Pfizer profit. No evidence links Warp Speed funding to illicit trades, and the Epstein files show only Epstein’s one-sided grudge, not Trump’s guilt. Virginia Giuffre, the redacted “victim,” explicitly cleared Trump of wrongdoing. This isn’t skepticism—it’s rumor dressed as insight, crumbling under the weight of actual documents.
Who bought stocks in Ozempic when it was placed in Medicare? MRNA shots?
Not pointing to Trump
He has his own donors
"Thus the Drug Trust, while maintaining the Stalinist Communist Government in Russia, simultaneously maintained a Communist back up regime in the United States, the Trotskyite Movement, in case the Stalinist regime should fall."
My critique of your Epstein-Clayton smear was concise, accurate, and firmly grounded in the facts: you mislabeled Jay Clayton as an “SEC commissioner” rather than the Chairman he actually was; the alleged Pfizer stock scandal tied to Trump was entirely fabricated; and the newly released Epstein files reveal only the pedophile’s one-sided vendetta against Trump, with Virginia Giuffre—the very “victim” Democrats redacted—explicitly testifying that Trump never flirted with her, touched her, or engaged in any wrongdoing.
Your response was not a rebuttal but a rhetorical escape hatch. The reply—“Who bought stocks in Ozempic when it was placed in Medicare? MRNA shots? Not pointing to Trump. He has his own donors”
—immediately abandoned the Epstein discussion, tossing out vague pharma insinuations without names, dates, or proof. It then capped the deflection with a 1988 quote from Eustace Mullins alleging a shadowy “Drug Trust” simultaneously backing Stalin and Trotskyite movements, a passage utterly disconnected from Clayton, Epstein, the DOJ probe, or any event in 2025. This wasn’t engagement; it was ideological static—a 40-year-old conspiracy fragment repurposed as commentary.
The World Order constantly intensify all problems through the foundations, so that political and economic crises prevent the people of the world from organizing against them. The World Order must paralyze their opponents. They terrorize the world with propaganda.
You may have me there. However your comments irritate for the reasons I stated without the snide part, and refusal to engage in rational discourse. In general I think your are caught up in many many decades of disparate groups striving for power, and falsely connecting them to some grand plan, and lack in detailed contrary research to the story you have bought.
I’d like to see him there too but the act of lying to Congress doesn’t seem to get punished very often 😕 I’m waiting to see, it it may still happen. But I’d rather the charges be more severe. There are so many different things to tackle at once to get our country on the right track and get some accountability for past wrongs.
Requiring SNAP recipients to reapply for benefits is so simple and brilliant. It should automatically expel illegal aliens who will not reapply. It should also trigger a requirement that all recipients must reapply annually. WOW. a program that actually promotes accountability.
And now we are learning that 100s of thousands of dead people are still receiving SNAP benefits. You'll not be surprised that most of this data is coming from red states which are complying with federal requests for the data. Imagine what we would learn if everyone complied.
Once we get the numbers on the blue commie states can you imagine what the numbers will be. That will also help curb the voting nonsense. I wish we could get a new census before 2030.
Great write-up by Jeff Childers on the bizarre Epstein stuff that came out over the last two days.
And I have no idea if PDJT's actions were a reversal or a long-planned counter offensive, but it doesn't matter. Good job Mr. President, we want the truth NO MATTER WHERE it leads. Please keep up the pressure, particularly on your cabinet. This stuff has to come out as people are so tied of being lied to.
This is why I wait before completely doubting him. I can express my concerns at any time and do, but it takes a LOT more time to pass before I would publicly shame him or call for an outrage. In the past his base railed on him and complained he was betraying us when he wanted the Epstein drama to stop. But had he done then what he did yesterday he would have immediately been accused of going after a previous president and pursuing opposition with lawfare. So, get the Democrats to demand investigations and release of files, and now he can do it without the rest of his momentum in other areas being overshadowed. THEY asked for it. So it may have looked like he was turning 180° back then - but in the end he was biding his time strategically.
I don't know if you've seen it but there's an internet meme that says "trust the plan" and "always chimp" with a pair of arrows going between them. The idea is that though we trust PDJT's intentions, we don't stay quiet when he does something beyond explanation, particularly when it's the diametric opposite of what we voted for.
Nobody on the right voted for an Epstein cover up. Nobody voted for high numbers of H1b Visas taking American jobs. Nobody voted for half a million Chinese taking university spots from American students.
So when PDJT says stuff that supports this, we really have no other choice than to go nuts (that is, "always chimp"). He may be getting bad advice, he may not understand what his supporters think, he may be being lied to by his own advisors. We don't know. His support the mRNA vax is a really good example of this. I can't remember who told the story but one of his insiders was asked by PDJT, "why do I get booed when I bring up the vax at rallies?". The advisor had to tell him, he honestly didn't know.
If it's all 4-D chess then he's free to ignore us and spring his trap when he's ready. No harm, no foul. But if he really believes this stuff then we need to let him know it's not okay.
That's why all this disloyalty talk is so disingenuous. Yes there are disloyal people out there, but there is such a thing as constructive criticism.
I think there is a fine line between reasoned criticism and knee jerk reaction though. And the Vax thing is very off-putting to me. He was told he faced a world shattering pandemic. He responded, as he is wont to do, decisively and proactively. Was he wrong? In hindsight, yes. But 1) he was played by Doctors Fauci and Scarf; and 2) he did not lock down the country or mandate forced vaccinations. And really, were we not all played by the Fauci/Scarf cabal? At least initially? I was. But before the vaccination was available I had a come to Jesus moment. I had gone to the grocery store. Masked, gloved and sanitized. I sanitized my cart. If I picked something up it went in the cart. None of my usual perusing the ingredients and rejecting questionable products. I checked out despite the cashier having to touch my items. So I sanitized the cargo area of my vehicle. When I got home I was opening the door to enter my house when I was nearly panicked by the thought "[M]y shoes. Oh Lord my shoes are contaminated!!!!" Followed by the immediate thought "[W]oman you are about to lose your mind." I opened the door and wore my shoes into the house. Everything turned out fine. It was the end of my Covid hysteria. Praise be. I have OCD tendencies and it could have been bad. But a lot of people were not that fortunate and too many still suffer from some iteration thereof.
The under thirty-five crowd don't believe the lies we all bought into until recently. They never did. Tucker Carlson has talked about how he mindlessly repeated propaganda for thirty years before finally waking up. He's talked about when talking to young podcasters that they mock him for his gullibility back then (and rightly so). They are very clear eyed about the state of the country.
That's why the Epstein stuff is kryptonite. They supported Trump because they thought, "this guy is different, he's not one of them". Remember Rogan even endorsed him to his largely male under-35 audience after a lengthy interview.
Then that July DOJ memo came out that said "nothing to see here" regarding Epstein. Trump defended the memo and Bondi. The under 35 support for Trump cratered almost instantly. These are the same people that didn't show up in the elections a few weeks ago. "Turns out he's just like all the rest" was their conclusion.
This is what Trump needs to understand, he needs supporters of all ages, not just crusty old farts (or which I'm one) who soaked up propaganda for four decades. Authenticity is incredibly important to those under 35, and for all Trump's alleged faults, he was seen as authentic. That was until the Epstein debacle.
So yes, let him work. But also continually remind him why we elected him. There's time to recover before the mid-terms but he needs to work to regain that trust.
I'm quite cynical and expect this to be mostly a limited hangout. However, maybe we will see a lot of unredacted material, but it will be only a few truth tellers outside of the MSM that find the pertinent info and get it out to us.
We'll see. Having voted for PDJT six times (including primaries) my recent frustration was that he seemed to think he could make this go away. It's not. I never had any suspicion that he was involved, but it seemed pretty clear that he thought he could BS his way through it.
I suspect he has noble intentions (e.g. thinks the stuff is just too awful to put the country through), but people just want truth. People are slowly waking up to the fact that we've been lied to and manipulated for decades. We elected Trump to stop that. That's why the Epstein stuff resonated so hard, no more lies regardless of who the truth takes down. We're not children, tell us the truth so we can evaluate it ourselves.
Perhaps this was long planned 4D chess move, but more likely it is a response to the recent elections and pretty awful polling particularly among those under 35. But like I said, the reason doesn't matter provided this is a genuine move. PDJT gets the benefit of my doubt unless we see more stonewalling.
I think it is worse than the pedophilia stuff. I do not think the unprecedented tea party at Windsor Castle between the king (you know a real one) and Trump, followed by the demotion of Andrew Moutbatten-Windsor in short order, is coincidental. And that was followed by the king's visit to the Pope. After 500 years.
I am in Arizona and I saw them cross-hatched across the sky on Thursday. Friday morning there was a massive haze across the whole valley and I had scratchy eyes and nose all day. This stuff is POISONING everything and I cannot understand WHY it is not stopped. I watched Tuckers show and the fellow who has done all the research and was so knowledgeable seemed very frightened. We all should be.
The great poisoning takes many forms. One would think it would be a priority to stop it. The spraying in N AZ got substantially better for a while, but lately its been full bore again, unfortunately. We are watching a lot of it today, as a storm system moves in for the week.....how man made is it and how natural is it, one can only guess.
Contrails form when hot, humid jet exhaust freezes into ice crystals at high altitudes (typically above 26,000 feet). Short-lived contrails dissipate quickly (seconds to minutes) in dry air, where ice sublimates rapidly. Long-lived, spreading contrails persist for hours and widen into cirrus-like clouds in supersaturated air (high humidity with respect to ice), allowing crystals to grow and spread via wind shear. This “contrail cirrus” can cover large areas, reflecting sunlight or trapping heat, depending on conditions.
Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors.
es weather modification is real and is all the Tucker show demonstrated
Right? Psyops are amazingly effective at getting us to disbelieve our own eyes. But the plandemic psyops has inoculated a lot of us to that kind of deception. The "fog" is dissipating. Reminds me of the movie, The Fog.
I just watched and saw Tucker say that contrails didn't exist when he was kid, or he didn't notice them anyway and a crazy person rattle off every buzzword for a substance, real or imagined, is sprayed from airplanes. The crazy person supported his argument by saying that the covid vaxines have heavy metals in them. The amount of ignorant spew was mind boggling. Crazies always say that they know they are correct because no one will talk to them and we can't prove they are crazy because every single bit of evidence is covered up.
I have checked Dane's references in the past because I am in aviation and was stunned by what he was saying so I wanted to see the details, since that's what I know about. It turns out that he is an idiot or a scammer. He constantly conflates cloud seeding and silly ideas and tests about controlling climate with contrails from all the commercial jets we see every day. There are cloud seeding projects going on all over the world, they are not secret, they advertise what they are doing and invite people to come see sometimes, although Dane and Tucker keep saying people are being secretive to make it sound scary. All the misapplied 'facts' and plain fantasies are easy to debunk but frustrating for people to listen to. Whenever someone starts talking about 'purple leprechauns' (things that are imaginary), most sane people stop listening, one reason is because they don't know enough about the topic to say "Stop right there, that's wrong, this is why, and that's why your whole argument is a fantasy, stop being an idiot". I, on the other hand have plenty of time and know why this is stupid to believe.
I'm disappointed so many people are so gullible and so arrogantly stubborn to learn why they are wrong while claiming 'no one will talk about it'. They are like the ones they accuse - they only listen to people that agree with them. The problem with all these 'depopulation' conspiracies you crazies are constantly terrified of is that most are not real and the ones that are have failed.
You know, in the past ten years or so, I've learned a lot about being gaslit. I felt something was off with Obama's regime so I began to pay attention. Of course, since then it's gotten very obvious yet so many people still have no clue. Anyway, I've learned enough to discern when I'm being bull-shitted by the media, the Gov't or whoever.
I'll tell you what. If you really believe what you are saying then, go for it. We can revisit this whole subject in a year or two and tell me if you are still convinced... or not. That'll be interesting. Honestly, all you have to do is start watching the sky and question what you are seeing. I know the difference between an actual contrail and what we are now seeing. It's as clear as comparing an apple to a watermelon.
I'll take your 'bet' about how this will turn out, especially in one year. I started checking out Dane's references, studies and whatever other evidence he has used to support his argument several years ago when I first heard about it, my crazy uncle was sending me crap. Since then nothing has changed, they still do cloud seeding, and its still not secret. People still use any tiny reference to, or evidence of, cloud seeding and the planes/equipment used to incorrectly vindicate their fantasy. I don't think you do know the difference between contrails and what you are seeing because there is no difference between contrails and other contrails. The only difference is the atmospheric conditions that day at the altitude the jet is flying. Dane said on Tucker that most of the planes doing the chemtrailing are military or civilian marked planes from military bases, but you can see look in the sky, see a plane putting out contrails, go to https://www.flightradar24.com and find the airplane above you and see exactly what plane it is, where it came from and where its going. I'll bet another $1 that you will never find a military plane putting out a contrail. Military planes do make contrails the same way any jet engine does but statistically you won't see one, you'll get too discouraged that every plane you find is a civilian plane going from somewhere to somewhere else, not planes flying from/to military sites like Dane says is most of them, he describes his assertions as 'indisputable facts', but like all schizos, he's wrong and doesn't understand he is holding up a sign that says "I am an idiot". I just explained how you can dispute his fantasies with facts, but I'll bet you won't check. Where can I go to see these chemtrailing planes on the ground? Or anything else that would be required to dump the millions of tons per year Dane is claiming? As I said, I am involved with aviation and airplanes and many, many maintenance type guys, they all hear chemtrailers talking about 'purple leprechauns', and wonder WTF guys like Dane are talking about, they are the ones that would be installing and operating this equipment, but its all fantasy, you can't find any credible person that will tell you anything about fitting or maintaining any aircraft with spray nozzles(of course, they have to be secret nozzles according to Dane) or any equipment or material that are supposedly spraying because it doesn't exist except for cloud seeders, which are small airplanes that take off and land at the same airport and don't make contrails because they are not jets. It would take thousands of people from every country in the world that has a commercial airport to be involved, and thousands more to make the equipment and whatever they claim is being sprayed, where are they? Dane says they have been doing this stuff for decades, you think in the next year some of these thousands of workers will come out with some evidence? Some pictures, maybe a sample of what they are spraying? Sounds like I'm going to win this bet.
Yeah, that's what I thought you were going to say, the same thing as all the vaxine lovers when they see info they can't dispute, nothing. But I am sure you'll continue to claim that 'no one will talk about geoengineering' and that's how you know its real. C&C crazies are craziest. Arrogance and ignorance to the rescue!
"I love that line: "It's just cloud seeding."" exemplifies the challenge with discussing facts with the geoengineering believers, it is never defined so it can't be debunked. What is a lie about cloud seeding? It may be dangerous, I'm not claiming its safe, but its not contrails and its not a secret worldwide program. The problem with geoengineering logic is that it can mean whatever you want and so the decades old practice(not yet proven that it even works, but they still do it) of spraying Silver iodide, Potassium iodide, Dry ice or Sodium chloride into existing clouds to attempt to nucleate a drop of water by giving the water vapor something to condense on or crystalize on is mixed up with ANYTHING you want, but the most common is contrails. Even Dane realizes the silliness of claiming contrails from commercial jets is what his geoengineering definition is including, but he doesn't stop people like Tucker from assuming it in the discussion and thereby claiming or endorsing that evidence of cloud seeding, or crop dusting, or other legitimate, non-secret reasons people spray things, usually very close to the ground, shows a planet wide, secret govt program, to do something(not defined yet), with all word governments cooperating to keep the secret for decades. But you think that in 2 years the entire program is going to be revealed and what I and David are claiming are contrails will be shown to be something else? Like what you say "we" are seeing? What would you accept as evidence that you are wrong? We don't know what you would be wrong about because you or anyone else won't say what "it" is, but what would or could you be shown that would persuade you to say that you are wrong? What can I do to prove that something doesn't exist? I already proposed a way for to check for yourself if the planes you see chemtrailing are the military planes that Dane claims they are, but you won't do it.
Remember a few years ago when we all used to tell stories here in the C&C comments about how people we knew wouldn't look at any of the evidence that showed that the vaxines were unsafe and ineffective? I think you had some insightful observations about their intelligence or whatever, does this seem similar? How about next time you see a contrail go to https://www.flightradar24.com and see what the plane is? Do any experiment you want - make a prediction about what would have to be true about contrails or chemtrails for you to be correct(you might have to nail down what you think geoengineering is, please let us know), then check to see if you are correct. If you tell me what you think geoengineering is, I will help you come up with the test, I'm that nice/generous of a person.
Nothing will change in 2 years. They will still be seeding clouds and some people will still think contrails are a secret world wide program that caused every problem they have. There will be no evidence presented to prove you are right and you won't accept the failure of any experiment you do to prove you are right, because you won't do any experiments and you won't accept anyone else's evidence. So, when I hit you up in a year or 2 to claim my $1, what could I say or show that will make you accept you were/are wrong? I bet another $1 that everyone you knew that didn't accept your vaxine failure/lies evidence still doesn't.
Phil, my post bellow discussed the disparate nature of contrails and how they behave, ( Avery known science written long before the chentrail ideas) and I have shown you the increase of jet traffic over the past 65 years. Please see above my response to Gary. I support his chemtrail skepticism, but do not necessarily equate it to depopulation skepticism for the reasons outlined.
I fully understood contrails before your little lecture. That's not what we are seeing.
An increase in traffic cannot account for this. BTW, if contrails were so prevalent in the traffic corridors, why do we not see constant contrails in these corridors which you clearly imply? Very few contrails are seen anymore with today's efficient engines. Your contrail explanation for the massive chemtrails that end up covering the sky in a matter of hours does not hold water... no pun intended. Clearly, they should be confined to the traffic corridors if that were true.
Oh... and it's real funny when you see a chemtrail being laid down and the spraying is clearly turned off and on every few seconds. But I suppose the engines are being turned off to save fuel. Can't wait to hear your explanation from your expert knowledge.
The idea of climate control is very out there, as in not possible now. Weather modification, absolutely. I have seen , like the current Calif rain, weather as the result of millions of square miles of Pacific ocean systems reasonably predicting what we are seeing now in Calif, and have seen folk call it weather planned by some flights over less then one /10000th of the area the systems formed in with predictable energy.
I will however say that our liberal education has produced a great fear of overpopulation and the "depopulation theories" may have some legs and evidence. This overpopulation and humans are evil and a parasite on nature fear is endemic to modern liberal philosophy and well established within the global warming scam. In my Substack post I quote them in their own words with the following preface about the dark side of human nature...
“The terrible truths of these experiments in human compliance and propensity to be beastly stand testament to the nature of the problem.”
milgram showed us how people will harm people if pressured by authority
asch showed us that people will ignore their own senses and perceptions when pressured by peer group
stanford showed us how easily humans can be egged into abuse of power”
As the world grows ever smaller via human technology, human systems and corporations grow ever more global. It is logical therefore that systems of human corruption can and would also became more pervasive and global in scale. The merge of One world Government and international business is not to be trusted. These people endlessly proclaim how they are doing this for the good of the world.
Here are their own words...
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family, tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas.”
Brock Chisholm… Quoted in: Davis, Llewellyn B (1991) Going Home to School, p. 69 This quote is old and the providence is well supported but questioned by some. The actions of the WEF and many other quotes supporting like ideas are not disputed at all.
“The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. . . . But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.” Otmar Edenhofer, Co-Chair of Working Group III of the IPCC
“ Under my policies energy prices will necessarily skyrocket.” Barack Obama.
At the Copenhagen conference in 2009, Hugo Chavez was repeatedly interrupted by applause and received a standing ovation for ranting that capitalism must be destroyed and socialism installed in order to save the planet. http://climateandcapitalism.com/2013/03/06/hugo-chavez-on-climate-change-and-capitalism/ Venezuela today reflects very typical results of full force socialism.
”My three goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First.
”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor.
“The United Nations could become a comprehensive Planetary Regime which could control the distribution of all natural resources.. and all food on the international market.” - Former President Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren
”The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”
Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation
”Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Eco-science”
“The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on climate models.” Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Center for Climate Prediction and Research (Again see attached graphic)
”We need to get some broad-based support to capture the public's imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, Lead author of many IPCC reports
”The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization we have in the US. We have to stop these third World countries right where they are.”
Michael Oppenheimer Environmental Defense Fund
”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” Professor Maurice King
”Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC.
”Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” David Brower, First Executive Director of the Sierra Club
”We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation.
”No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment.
”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program.
”A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.”
Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Eco-science”
”Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit. (There are very well researched reports on why he is wrong)
”Complex technology of any sort is an assault on the human dignity.” Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute“…
”...the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the nationals auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” ~ David Rockefeller, June, 1991, Bilderberg Conference.
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis…”
- David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member.
“We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land. David Foreman, co-founder of Earth 1st
“Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society.” -the UN Agenda 21 Report
These static ideals of one world government and depopulation have not gone unnoticed. One response was the Heidelberg Appeal, which was in reaction to the United Nations sponsored “Earth Summit” in Rio-de-Janeiro in 1992. It has over 4,000 signatures from scientists around the world including 72 Nobel Prize winners. Partial text:…”We are, however, worried, at the dawn of the twenty-first century, at the emergence of an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress, and impedes economic and social development”… Heidelberg Appeal http://www.fact-index.com/h/he/heidelberg_appeal.html:
So yes, these ideals are there, and a man made virus of great harm was made, and it escaped and or was released, and the CHOOSEN vaccine does great harm to the human immune system and like the COVID virus, passed the blood brain barrier and is deadly. So depopulation can, in my view, be rationally argued. Please check out my always free not a Jews feed Substack.
The persistent white trails behind high-altitude jets are contrails—harmless water vapor and ice crystals formed when hot engine exhaust meets cold, humid air. These linger or spread based on atmospheric conditions, a phenomenon documented since World War II and routinely explained by the FAA and EPA.
In contrast, chemtrails are an unproven conspiracy alleging secret, large-scale spraying of toxic chemicals for weather control, mind manipulation, or population reduction—claims unsupported by any declassified program, whistleblower evidence, or physical proof.Weather modification, like cloud seeding with silver iodide to enhance rainfall, is real, localized, and publicly regulated (e.g., used in California droughts or UAE rain projects).
Tucker Carlson’s episode rebrands this limited, admitted practice as “chemtrails confirmed,” but offers no new government admission—just old patents, historical ops like Operation Popeye, and speculative leaps. The sky isn’t poisoning you; it’s just physics, with a side of policy debate.
Chemtrails are real. Geoengineering via cloudseeding and other operations are openly acknowledged. There are many private companies involved and surprisingly they are almost wholly unregulated. There was cloudseeding taking place by a Cali outfit in Central Texas the week before the very devastating, unprecedented Guadalupe River flooding on July 4 of this year. Call me a conspiracy theorist to your heart's content but there is no way on God's little green earth the two are unrelated.
I did not, however, what part of Weather modification, like cloud seeding with silver iodide to enhance rainfall, is real, localized, and publicly regulated (e.g., used in California droughts or UAE rain projects)." did you not understand? The science of contrails is utterly unlike the "Global Warmong pseudo science. Please consider to quote what I said and address it specifically.
The “publicly regulated” part for one. And to say that “cloud seeding with silver iodide” does not involve a chemtrail is, well, disingenuous. Nor is silver iodide the only chemical trailed. FWIW I am not a Tucker Carlson follower so I have no idea what he is pontificating about. But he sure put a burr under your saddle. That type of reaction is always indicative to me of emotion as opposed to reason. Capiche?
FWIW if you are looking for info on "chem trails" you must call them GEOENGINEERING or you'll only see the line that "chem trails are a conspiracy theory" but Geo engineering is most definitely real and happening. And it's terrifying.
That is true. But even in looking up “cloud seeding in Karnes County, Texas on July 2, 2025”, which happened, I got conspiracy that's a theory after that's a discredited conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory result. Methinks they do protest too much.
Weather modification in the United States is governed primarily by the 1972 Weather Modification Reporting Act, which requires operators to notify NOAA of planned activities—such as cloud seeding with silver iodide—at least ten days in advance and submit detailed reports afterward. NOAA collects data but does not license or regulate the operations. Larger-scale geoengineering, like solar radiation management, remains under limited federal oversight, with the EPA issuing rare permits for ocean-based experiments and the White House releasing a 2023 research framework. ( I strongly object to thises experiments and they are rare thankfully)
Recent years have seen a wave of state-level crackdowns fueled by public confusion between proven weather modification and baseless "chemtrail" theories. Tennessee banned all intentional atmospheric alteration in 2024, followed by Florida’s 2025 law imposing up to five years in prison and $100,000 fines. Montana prohibited solar radiation management but preserved cloud seeding, while 22 states introduced similar bills in 2025. Federally, a GAO report called for better data coordination, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene proposed a national ban—still pending. These measures risk undermining legitimate drought and flood mitigation efforts amid growing climate pressures.
the flood you referred to did have weather modification practiced before, however where it was practiced and when, proves it was innocent of the flooding, as the practice was not inline with the storms path that went into the flood plain where the disaster occured. (sorry, but facts)
Like I said, surprisingly unregulated. Proven innocent my arse. The only proof is the self-serving statement of the culprit. Nor does your regurgitation of talking points (just not Carlson's apparently) constitute facts. The fact is that the consequences of weather modification are unknown. Whatever else it is, it is interference in the natural order of the earth. A foolish, foolhardy, and arrogant attempt to fix something that is not broken because the one constant on this earth is change. We should embrace that and adapt accordingly. As our ancestors did for over a hundred thousand years. Successfully.
False argument. "Cloud seeding for rain" is not what is happening. That tired cover story is worn out. Do you ever objectively watch what's going on in the sky? Just curious....
In the event you're not aware, flightrader.com, with the 'military or government' filter, shows those types of flights. As I write this, there's a HUSKR16 Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker, and an 'N/A' Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker flying in circles just southwest of Lincoln NE. I guess they're just lost and looking feverishly for the closest airport? Certainly, without a doubt, it's not geoengineering. Here's a screenshot: https://snipboard.io/6ZpVno.jpg
"Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors."
because if you do not we are engaged in a Monte Python arguement, and not a debate. Cloud seeding is real.
Uh huh, surrrre! If you were sincerely deluded, I would say, "OK, go ahead and don't believe your lying eyes - makes no difference to me." But I strongly suspect you are an agent of disinformation.
You sound like the same explanations we received all the time trying to convince us an actual wild virus was causing a pandemic that was killing millions of people and that the "covid vaccine" was not a bio-weapon death shot and was "safe and effective" and that the 2020 election was the most secure election in history. I could go on ad nauseam. You are disingenuous.
Take your sales pitch somewhere else. We have good eyes and we know what we see.
I did not insult you. You say we know what we see. What part of "Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors." is not true?
As to the COVID crimes, those are real and the two subjets are not remotely similar in either history or science. By the same logic I should belive in the 9/11 conspiracy and moon landing hoax, and all conspiracy ideas. Click on my short Substack with maybe 5 posts, and you will see, I am not what you accuse me of.
weather modification is real and is all the Tucker show demonstrated
"I did not insult you." Gee, I never said you did.
BTW, what do you think happened to the Twin Towers and ancillary buildings on 9/11? You still buy the official explanation? And the Pentagon was hit by a commercial airline?
As to you air traffic equation - well, so many holes but what's the point. You'll simply repeat your "rational" excuses.
But you did insult me, and that was the cause of my assertion.
The collapse of the twin towers is deeply understood and demonstrated by the best engineering models with decades of expertise in skyrise construction and requirements, same with the building 7. You do not want a detailed explaniation of why
the towers collapsed as they did
why building 7 collapsed 7 hours later
why the insurance scam theory is perposterous
why the Pentagon not an airline theory is impossible
etc...
However if you want to tell me what is wrong with the idea that a twentyfold plus increase in contrails forming airline increase and well know conditions that affect contrail expansion and long life is not valid, go ahead and shoot.
I think you are only the second person I have heard point out the reality of how the buildings fell down on Sept. 11, especially bldg 7. I hope your Stack gets more traction. People love being crazy though. I think the most difficult part of persuading a schizophrenic is that they have schizophrenia and can't tell the difference between fact, fiction and fantasy. Fantasy seems to be the most popular.
Why does not SNAP use the WIC (Women’s, Infant’s and Children’s) food list? WIC is a GOOD program, administered through dietitians that work for the Health Department. It covers basic, nutritious foods — not junk food. It is designed for poor pregnant women and their infants and young children. If you look in grocery stores you will see the little stickers that say “WIC Eligible”. The food lists and program are already established, so it should be easy to implement. Why not limit what SNAP will buy to the WIC foods?
Is it just me or do you get the picture that Trump is the Roadrunner & democrats are Wiley Coyote with an exploded gun in his paws & gunpower all over him?? Or an anvil in his paws falling fast fast from the cliff with the Roadrunner watching him fall?
—““Trump is keeping the story alive,” the editors sneered.”
Well that’s funny, not so long ago I heard a chorus of Democrat voices clamoring to release the Epstein files 🤔 But now it’s Trump “keeping the story alive” 😑
Reading recent comments here about SNAP subsidies has made me think it would be an improvement for those funds to cover ONLY single-ingredient foods ~ meaning real, actual, nutritious food like blueberries! broccoli! beef! ~ such that any processed/packaged foods which list their ingredients (as required by law, I believe) would include NO COMMAS in their lists of ingredients in order to be purchasable with SNAP funds. I buy meat, poultry, fish, eggs, grains, and countless veg, fruits, etc. in exactly this way, and am unable to think of any reason this policy might NOT be advisable at a state and federal level. (I am referring to items with labelling such as: "Organic Turkey Breast," "Organic Extra-Fine Green Beans [frozen];" "Whole Grain Organic Buckwheat" ~ three examples of items in my 'fridge, freezer, and cupboard this morning.)
Might need to bring Elon back for the computer programming aspect, but the most important question to me is whether we want the USDA to provide NUTRITION ASSISTANCE (which is what SNAP's name stands for) or assistance with convenience and pleasure (yummy, fast edibles). It's so simple: nutrition = no commas. Just wondering why this wouldn't be possible.
Years ago I received WIC. It was Very specific foods only.
And WIC now (2025) has some great new regs regarding things like the authorisation of lactose-free milk, the mandated reduction of sugar in yogurt and other dairy products, the elimination of flavoured milks, etc.
Why suckle another species? Humans are the only species that engages in this rather bizarre behavior... How about stoping the insanity??
Our brains have adapted over thousands of years to necessitate the high fat and protein of animal milk to grow and function. Raw dairy is full of beneficial microbes and probiotics that lead to good gut health and balance and can also serve the nutritional needs of many animals and plants. I feed raw milk to all my children and animals on our farm, lactating does gobble it up and produce better milk for their kits, I mix it with eggs to feed bottle lambs, chickens utilize it for better egg production, and the dogs and cats love the treat. It can be used as a fertilizer and fungicide in my garden. Everything benefits from suckling on the teat of a cow.
not even remotely true. Human brains were vastly different from cows last I checked. Further the skeletal system of a human could not be more different.
The high protein in Cows milk is designed to take a 60# calf and turn it into
a 1000# heifer in one year. Human milk is designed to transform a 7# infant
with a growing nervous system dependent on essestial fatty acids into a 20 something pound infant in one year.
Is all you are doing Eliza is continuing a bizarre behaviour you were taught.
You are a slave to the animals you keep. Howz about growing and eating plants, ending the animal slavery, and prospering?
No person benefits for suckling another species except in very rare instances of abandonment. If we were "civilized" human moms that cannot lactate would access lactating moms with extra.
Her behavior is not bizarre. Just because you apparently eat a plant based diet and no “meat or dairy” products, why should you slam her as person who chooses a different diet lifestyle than you do? You refer to “ending animal slavery” is if animals that produce food are slaves somehow. Really, seriously?
She is raising her own cows, producing her own raw milk (which milk in raw form is some of the most nutritious food on the planet), for her children and her animals. As she says…”raw dairy is full of beneficial microbes and probiotics that lead to good gut health and balance”…
If you want to expand your horizons about health, wellness, and nutrition regarding the benefits of raw milk, organ meats and nutritious foods in general you might want to check out the Weston A. Price Foundation’s website. They are all about health, wellness, and nutritious foods. And have been promoting their message for over 25 years.
https://www.westonaprice.org/
Are you familiar with the Weston A. Price Foundation? They support raw milk and nutritious foods as a path to wellness and health.
https://www.westonaprice.org/
Many are the false beliefs.
Yes they do.
Tard
Very much so.
Someone is. Perhaps the loop with the pink glasses??
Humans are the only ones to do it AT SCALE; with us, it's an industry. I agree with you, but also think it's a good, though inadequate, development when the relative unhealthfulness of various dairy products is lessened at all, as with WIC currently.
Know all about pasteurization, the exquisite details.
That is undenyable. What is on offer is the false beliefs about health.
Eating dead animals or their secretions does not accomplish this life long task. It does however create dis-ease. Those who advocate in this direction
have no clue whatever their intentions.
Everyone should forever remember - but it is astonishing the short memories - that it was the un-elected biden regime of tyranny which unleashed exorbitant economic/price attacks on the American people through massive deficit spending and huge increases in the cost of energy - which drives up the cost of everything! But people want to hurt Trump and MAGA so they wrongly - and intentionally - attack there instead of putting the blame where it rightfully belongs.
And another thing which really irritates me is all of the arm chair quarterbacking from lame people who suddenly think they know more than Trump and that he is focused on the wrong issues. Think about that for one damned minute. Trump has brought peace, which means LACK OF DEATH, to many parts of the world FIRST! That also means more peace for the USA. Now that he has mostly accomplished that (albeit still working on the UK/RU mess the criminal BIDEN ADMIN GOT US INTO), he can now pivot to working on reducing the economic strain on us. I don't know about anyone else but I think keeping people alive instead of dead from war, takes priority?? And, everyone should remember he has all along been laying all the fundamental ground work down to create a long lasting golden age for the American people.
So, I say to the ever unhappy, evil, hateful naysayers and those who want to hurt the MAGA movement - ST*U - TAW - for the American people. LET THE MAN WORK!
A.M.E.N.
People are blind and deaf. But seemingly never silent when appropriate.
SNAP should be patterned after the WIC program!
I spent many years working in local government administering SNAP benefits. I saw a real need for nutrition/cooking education for recipients, however, this was never required. We had people and facilities that provided this, but as long as it was voluntary, it was underutilized. I also could never understand why soda, candy and convenience foods were allowed under SNAP. I always suspected that the large food manufacturer’s lobbies in DC had something to do with this. I think education needs to be included as part of the mandatory work requirements being proposed in SNAP reform as well as restrictions on what can be purchased.
Would you believe cod liver oil could NOT be purchased, but soda, Cheetos, etc could!
Arguably bizarre that SNAP is a Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program that does not cover nutritional supplements ... make it make sense. It *IS* because the whole thing is very definitely a brainchild of Big (Bad) Food and its agenda. But we will outwit Them.
Bring back cooking classes to highschool! I remember taking cooking, wood, metal, typing classes in 9th grade...they were great skill development classes.
Yes! I left a similar comment- sorry didn’t see yours
I totally agree that to qualify for SNAP, you should have to take some basic cooking classes - they could even involve the whole family.
Bring back home education to high schools! How to read a recipe. Measure items out. Plan out a grocery list. Use grocery list. Also budget. These are not taught anymore. I didn’t care for it when I was in school but I also had it at home but we all had to take classes. Home education. Wood shops welding/ Ag shoo.
Also I think to qualify a certain amount of working hours. School hours should be required.
Agree with all of your points.
Yes, when it was proposed that soda be ineligible for SNAP, Coca-Cola lobbyists went nuts.
The Extesion Service tried an ed program on cooking from scratch for SNAP recipients. They complained it was too hard. Besides they preferred frozen pizza.
If you're living in a hotel with limited ways to cook it would be difficult to do what you suggest. It's not that I disagree with you but I have seen the conditions some of the people live in and I'm not sure they have had a fully functioning kitchen for a while, or ever. The idea of kids living on Kraft (or any brand) of macaroni and cheese makes me cringe but if that's the extent of their cooking ability, that's what they need. Basically heat and serve.
However it’s quite easy to acquire a cooking plate and some skillets/pans. You don’t need a fully equipped kitchen to eat healthy and work with fresh foods. Many small appliances help and are inexpensive.
Back in my college days we would make grilled cheese sandwiches with foil and an iron...
I once made an entire macaroni, ground beef, tomato and cheese casserole using an old style popcorn popper while I was in college
I cooked for 4 months on an electric skillet as I did not have a stove!
Until the neighbor steals it
One could always steal the neighbor’s cat… 🐈
Hopefully, most of these people aren't from haiti.
Beats food stamps!
10.00 on Amazon!
And a lot of people don’t know how to cook from scratch, whether or not they have a kitchen. I prefer it and believe people receiving assistance ought to be limited to healthy food, but they may need remedial home economics classes.
I've been thinking the same thing. WIC has mandatory nutrition and cooking classes for people who receive it, and those foods are all one-ingredient (milk, cheese, tuna, dried beans/peas, etc.). Why couldn't we use the local Ag Dept nutritionists to do the same with SNAP recipients?
These leeches aren’t going to take classes and do any work of cooking.
why should they, when they don’t have to?
If they consented to work, they wouldn’t be on food stamps.
One lady said, make the online cooking classes a prerequisite for activating the card.
On line?? How many of these people have computers?
🙌👍
So no bread? No jam? No peanut butter. No mayo for the tuna? This is too simplistic and unworkable.
I think a list of acceptable foods patterned on WIC would at least be an improvement.
Peanut butter would be a 'yes,' since it's widely available as a single-ingredient product now. Jams and breads and mayo almost always contain sweeteners and/or salt, but since SNAP is only SUPPLEMENTAL, not by any means anyone's total source of money spent on food in any given month (my SNAP benefits equal $5.75 a day; many of my neighbours receive 79 cents a day, currently the minimum the USDA is providing through SNAP for Fiscal Year 2026, which began on October 1st). People receiving SNAP assistance SUPPLEMENT their food buying with SNAP dollars, and buying items like bread, jam, mayonnaise and many other things would be done with NON-SNAP funds if SNAP were reserved for whole, single-ingredient foods.
What would be unworkable in providing at least $24 a month (the current minimum) to qualifying households for purchasing these nutritious single-ingredient foods?
Peanut butter is pretty much de rigeur.
And now, fortunately, pretty widely available as a single-ingredient product, without the sweeteners and salt that most nut butters used to contain.
I don't particularly know how to cook either but Nuts, Berries, Milk, Cheese, and Fruit are all easy to not cook.
Yes. They can get all the nutrition they need just by eating raw fruits and nuts.
If they have teeth - or a blender.
For sure. They don’t know jack about cooking. They don’t know how to thread a needle and sew a button back on. They don’t know what a thimble is.
iPhones, video games, social media…that they can do. But basically taking care of themselves….no.
Maybe we need video games teaching basic skills. Make it a game to learn household management. 😁
There’s a thought. You don’t learn, your character dies. And your social media won’t work.
How would you be assured real world application? When I taught my young daughter (she was around 8-9) how to sweep the kitchen, I would walk the length of it barefoot, if my feet picked up dust or trash, she'd do it a second time... Once the floor was clean, she'd mop it, once with soapy water, once with clean water & a little vinegar... Later when she got her first part time job, she was often told that her work ethic was incomparable. When she told me that, it sounded like "Thanks mom!"
And if your character dies you lose all earned in game progress. People would desperately try to keep their character alive.
Great Idea. "Household Combat 2.0. Fight your mortal enemy, Dr. Processed Ingredients in this spellbinding game. It is literally a death match. Includes scale for daily use. If the scale goes down, you win one match by default!"
There you go! If they have cell phones, they can simply go on YouTube and be instructed on how to cook most anything. No excuses - unless they are severely disabled.
They all have cells unfortunately. Learning is 10,000x better for tasks like meal prep in children. You Tube is useful for things like auto or home repair.
That's a really awesome idea!
Many of us, elders are advocating for bringing back actual home RC and shop classes to the schools.
I learned how to bake bread in high school Home Ec class. True story and yes I'm that old.
Same!
thats great. Am male, learned in my own kitchen...
Me too
I always had home economics in both junior high and high school. The schools actually had a functioning kitchen! However, I don't remember learning all that much in the classes. I learned to cook from my mother, who made absolutely everything from scratch. The only packaged things she ever bought were frozen vegetables. And then my daughter learned to cook from me.
and that is happening, including emphasizing trades instead of some East Coast Fantasy indoctrination camp.
Big shortage of skilled workers.
I’m one such elder.
They can cook. There’s just as smart as we are, maybe smarter. They don’t cook because they don’t want to. Those of us who do the work of cooking are not getting $292 per head of free food every month. Why should they bother to work cooking when they can get free prepared foods?
Max SNAP payment is $193 a month. Elderly SNAP is $188. You can't buy ready cooked food on SNAP.
You can buy ready made food such as rotisserie chicken from the deli. Pretty sure subs as well
Is it really $292 per head 😳🤯
I know someone who said their card was just reloaded to $300+ as an individual for November--maybe some state $$ involved ? Meanwhile i get to bargain shop AND pay for Statewide "Free Lunches" for entitled future Commie Colorado public school students. Evil-Idiot Voters punishing 5.07% of wage earners to pay for 100% of special-interests and State bureaucracy to run an unaccountable, unending, Dem-controlled scheme to curb "child hunger" and enrich their pals. Conspiracy of LIARS, thieves and fools.
Think it varies by state. In between jobs, for our household of three, we got a max amount of 785. Now that my job has kicked in, it's down to 34 for all of us together. Looking for more progress, but we are headed in the right direction at last.
They certainly lack incentive in far too many cases. As an older woman who cooked and prepared 3 meals a day for my family of 6, but do minimal cooking now that I’m alone; I realize that cooking is a skilled art and if not regularly practiced, one can lose those skills.
they do not cook because they are clueless about health, its origins, or the behavious that secure it. Prepared foods are for those that have zero knowledge about health.
I have an artist friend who does workshops. Some younger participants did not know how to use scissors!!! This floors me.
Seriously? That's unbelievable. That's a basic kindergarten skill, or used to be.
😳😩
Guess they’re too busy teaching about LGBTQXYZ and transgendering
in kindergarten now.
I taught my boys how to do laundry, vacuum, sew and make breakfast. Figured they wouldn't starve, or live in a pig pen. My son tells me his girlfriend is shocked to hear this. I hear, "Thank you mom!"
In this day and age, it makes no sense for boys to not learn and know basic skills that'll make them more self-sufficient later on.
Good for you, Concerned mom! I too, thought it was important that both my son and daughter know how to separate laundry, wash, and fold, in addition to how to clean a bathroom, vacuum, dust, do dishes, grocery shop, and cook a few basic meals before they moved out of the house.
Pretty sure they could steer their attention to some Tik Tok (yuk!) influencers that would show them how. Just sayin;'.
Poor things they can’t get IDs either we’ve been told.
The Left thinks we’re very stupid. Congress regularly helps them out with that perception.
G.K.Chesterton; “It’s terrible to contemplate how few politicians get hanged”.
IMO the best way yo become a cook is to start with 5 ingredient recipes. There are LOTS of them and they avoid overwhelming the cook.
Luckily, learning to cook is not like learning to do brain surgery. It's perfectly reasonable to require scratch cooking if one is getting the food for free.
Our high school offers free lunch to all students (small town), but our daughter is on a GF DF diet because of her special needs. I suspect her lunches, made from leftovers, are a lot healthier and maybe tastier than what the school offers. We live on a limited budget, but cooking from scratch is cheaper and more nutritious (and more fun) than the alternative.
And it's only about their SUPPLEMENTAL food ... but it could still provide some educational benefit, as many are mentioning. People would at least have to figure out WHAT whole, single-ingredient food(s) to buy, and why, to supplement the rest of their possibly S.A.D. [Standard American Diet]
Is home economics even taught in school anymore? Such a shame that our kids are missing out on basic education 😡
And Shop Class - the gateway to trade careers.
Too busy learning the 97 genders.
Heartbreaking, really.
Theft of spiritual & material inheritance.
Phlyme, not in our school system. I called to get our homeschooled son into shop classes, and they don't exist, either. You have to cross-register in the Vo-Tech for that. They substituted computer software certifications for both. That makes some sense, but otoh our local food bank director said not to donate any flour, because "they don't know what to do with it."
It’s not lack of education, it’s lack of motivation. These are freeloaders who do not want to work when they can get it free.
I don’t know. I should ask. I never took it, opting for typing instead. I had to learn as an adult.
I took it in HS and my BS degree in nutrition was a concentration under Home Ec. Yes, I am old. :)
Amen. Recovery of any kind, economic or otherwise, is *all about* learning ~
It's not very hard to learn. They can watch YouTube videos about it on their expensive iphones.
My oldest has learned home renovation and guitar construction (starting with a slab of beautiful wood) from Yt videos. Those videos are a godsend.
You have brought up an excellent point. On YT you can learn how to fix your car, your malfunctioning household appliances, or how to do the Argentine Tango. Between YT, FB and/or Instagram, you can witness an almost infinite number of recipes being prepared. Six months ago I learned how to bake a loaf of Italian bread with four simple ingredients, and all I needed in the way of tools was a stick (wooden spoon) , a mixing bowl and an oven. Now I bake all of my family's bread and it's way better, and cheaper than that which we'd been paying five bucks per loaf at the grocery store. And, let's face it, if you can't afford a $25k/year college degree, short of the credentials - you can probably do better online, for free.
And they do not know how to get an ID, from what the demonicRATS say.
The dumbocraps say that to make you feel bad. You have to have ID to get free food from the government, at least in my state.
You should be required to be *lawfully* present in whatever state is administering your SNAP distribution, IMO.
Home Economics classes are what saved me back in the day. I learned how to cook and sew in junior high and high school. That was eons ago and now those classes have been replaced with something more "meaningful." My Home Ec teacher, Mrs. Lyday was my favorite teacher of all time.
I bet they have a cell and internet. Plenty of videos out there showing how to make mac and cheese from scratch.
There’s also the internet for learning how, but I agree that people need cooking lessons. Just basic cooking lessons.
Yes some people do better with hands-on instruction.
Hunger is a wonderful instructor. I taught myself to cook pre-youtube. I don't think every prepackaged item should be banned, just any that contain non-food ingredients and/or chemicals. Mustard and mayo are generally "processed" but a lot of brands are actually edible.
Good idea!
Crock pots are great for this. And you can microwave potatoes, sweet potatoes and vegetables very easily.
Heavens yes! Go to the nearest thrift store and purchase a crock-pot for five bucks. Now, you have a "kitchen". Online there's an almost infinite number of recipes that can be prepared in a crock-pot.
Good point. Many folks don’t have access to a full kitchen. Physical limitations and illness can also be impediments to lengthy meal prep.
Well… no excuse .. I have a little portable (very inexpensive) single burner cooktop for my van .., and a little electric water heater works great. There are ways to warm up things and ftickin cook. I do it all the time. Give me a break. Put them in a hotel that has a small refrig and a microwave. The bottom line is they are LAZY! LAZY !! Much easier to buy fast food, order take out, and eat junk. Why should we who cook from scratch pay for this? Have these people go to “drivers ed reeducation classes” in order to obtain their free benefits. Sorry
Something stuck with me I read years ago because it is so true. It was from Dr. Mercola. He wrote that if you're going to consistently eat healthy, somebody is going to have to spend a lot of time in the kitchen. Zero-prep real foods like bananas and other fruit only take you so far. I just had a typical breakfast that required me to scrub my sweet potato, and get two iron skillets dirty cooking my venison, eggs, and sweet potatoes. Topped off by home-made fruit salad of oranges, grapefruit, grapes, apples, and pineapple (all fresh) my wife just made. That's not a hard meal (except the fruit salad is time-consuming), but it's a lot harder than toast and peanut butter, cold cereal, or donuts. We eat a lot of salads from scratch, I like to stir-fry skillets of 8-15 different veggies with meat. My wife cooks traditional American meals, 2-3 veggies and meat or fish. We spend a lot of time in the kitchen. Mercola is right. Cleanup adds to the commitment. It's worth it, for sure, but like you say, most are LAZY! And, many work 2 jobs and have kids at home. Also many dislike kitchen work. It's just a fact that eating crap is far easier.
Sounds like Hubs and I. I had to buy emergency coffee heavy cream from our local store the other day. It has Carrageenan in it. That was the brand with the least offense in the ingredients. The stuff I usually buy has a reasonable expiry date, like within 8 days, but this stuff won't go bad until Christmas. Once you know, you can't unknow. Just finished a crockpot full of venison/caribou stew and knowing that meat wasn't injected to H-E double hockey sticks was amazing.
Caribou? That is very cool! I bet it's good.
At least you two will not spend your last half decades running up medical bills.
So far so good!
Yes, serving crap is easier. And do young people know how to cook from scratch? Have they ever learned? Or were their moms busy working, so they never had home cooked meals? I'm not trying to shame anyone, just give an explanation.
Plus... it is lazy or tired? How many people want to come home after working 8 hours, take an hour to cook dinner, and then 15 minutes to clean up? They would rather pop something into a microwave and spend the time relaxing or with their kids.
It doesn’t have to take an hour to cook dinner. I cook from scratch almost every day and my average is 20-30 minutes. Some meals take a little longer. Of course it’s not as easy as shoving a ready made meal in the microwave but it doesn’t have to take that long.
A good salad takes a half hour to make. So , you are so correct. I balance that (not salads obviously) by making in quantity , so I get at least an extra meal if not 2 or 3 out of it. Often freeze some too, so it is net net not a time burden, but a massive quality improvement.
That really is the bottom line: Eating crap is easier.
Also, the majority of people are nutritionally illiterate.
True. I think herd mentality is a factor too. They think "everybody else is eating this way, how bad can it be?" I'd say pretty bad - look at them. And most are susceptible to advertising. The ads wouldn't be steering them wrong, they wouldn't want to hurt them, right?
Surely the kids can, I dunno, HELP?! Teach them food prep, and at minimum, kids are more than capable of washing dishes. Enough with the excuses.
I take the comments on this subject as explanations, not excuses. People are wired differently. I consider myself lucky I care about taking care of my health, and have a wife that's the same. We must have been born with that inclination since our parents and siblings are not like us.
Even if you're lazy, you can find low-effort food combinations and recipes that don't require hours of kitchen work.
Also Crock pots!! And as you said, you can microwave lots of foods (vegetables and potatoes are easy to cook that way).
Personally, I'm planning to pull out the crock to stew some beef cheek meat (very inexpensive) with spices and veggies this week. It is going to be glorious. The crock pot also makes the best pork shoulder turned shredded pork for tacos and sandwiches. Plus it only takes a few minutes to throw everything into the pot and turn to the low setting. This is simple stuff that a middle-school age child could do.
Yes!!
Crock pot "yes", microwave "no". We threw both of ours away after reading the cancer books which all said they are bad news. Everyone knows the heat is different. Anything you heat does not stay hot long compared to oven or stove heat. They heat by accelerating the cells of the food a billion times a second, which obliterates all of the enzymes, minerals, vitamins. There is no nutrition in microwaved food. Have not tried it, but read if you water plants with microwaved water, they will die.
One thing my daughter discovered is Every Plate, one of those companies that sends weekly meals in a box. They're so good for people who work full time and want good ideas and variety in their cooking. Most of the ingredients come in the box with detailed instructions, including photos. Lots of meal choices every week, some very interesting and different. They are fun culinary experiments and are reasonably priced.
Every plate is very reasonable, and the recipes are quick and easy. EBT should pay for it; families would b eating better food, and it would cost less for taxpayers.
Funny how when I worked ‘full time’ in my former career life, I managed to shop for food for myself and cook it as well. I wasn’t married so it was just me, but I had some married couple friends with young kids, and they divided the shopping and cooking duties between themselves each week and got it done.
I think many younger people appear to have had no adults in their lives who taught them how to cook food, and secondly in general are a tad lazy. They want someone to do stuff for them, like how to plan and cook a meal. Like the ‘someone’ who cooked and cleaned up for them when they were growing up.
Oh but now they have ChatGPT as their culinary advisor!
Funny when I was young I wanted to learn how to cook food, especially desserts. But then I was a creative type. I wanted to learn how to sew clothes when I was ten and learn how to garden and grow things with my grandmother, too.
I'm not a camping hiker , but if they can cook in the woods, and they do, so can anyone in a hotel room for goodness sake. They even have access to water and electricity.
Yes there are all manner of preparing an reheating foods with a stove top heating method and a electric water kettle. No need for a microwave.
You don’t need a full kitchen !
VERY true, but SNAP requirements are only for the SUPPLEMENTAL portion of what people buy, NOT the majority of their diet.
I’ve been homeless and with unstable roommates this summer, just trying to get a divorce from covert narcissist type . The homeless population is depending on gas stations to prepare their meals. I can’t do processed food. But I do not have food stamps. I need to apply now.
I’d have starve to death without Aldi
I get sick on additives so I’m gluten free non gmo & Aldi has it affordable. I’ve been able to cook a few times in the last few months. The hotels I saw in Tampa that house families in emergency were unbelievable. Roaches and louse and no cooking facilities, just a small fridge. Some people were using a grill occasionally. Lots of children growing up like that, so sad.
I can’t believe I’m in the position I am now, but it was an educational summer.
I’m sorry you’re going through that 😞 I hope you can find a way to get to better circumstances soon 🙏 Praying for you!! 🙏🙏🙏
And thank you very much for any prayers. It’s all I have right now. I am thankful I didn’t end up as an episode of forensic files. God knows what he did. And I’m still determined to serve the Lord somehow, someday soon.
May the Lord bless and protect you Rosalind!! He’ll get you through this!! 🙏❤️
Please keep us posted on how you are doing, if you can!
That’s how I got this far! God bless you, Thank you greatly for any prayers.
Agree with much of what you say, but vegetables do not require a kitchen, and many of us survived college with a hot plate and one pan.
And their bodies will still be starved for lack of wholesome nutrients.
That’s why they keep eating junk, it never satiates them?
SNAP is meant to poison the proles. Pass the Velveeta.
Easier than RNA vaccine mandates which will be appearing in the food chain
This is what scares me. I eat a LOT of meat and eggs and I love my diet. I’m so scared what they are doing to livestock and what it will end up doing to me.
Only eat bison and free range chop meat.
Bison is tasty but must be prepared very rare, like venison
Organic eggs
Gave up poultry long ago due to the industry conditions.
I LOVE bison. Soooo much tastier than beef! The place I used to buy it from closed and I haven’t found a new source locally yet.
My husband likes pork and poultry more than red meat, to my dismay. So I always have to have it on hand to cook alongside my meat.
Used to love pork and poultry
A major local store might be able to direct you.
When I had them in upstate New York, I shopped at Aldi and cooked at home.leaky gut is “ allergic “ to the additives
Additives in bison?
There is a staggering amount of sadness in our country. Equally true is that an American with only a microwave is probably an American qualifying for enough help from officialdom to get access to a fridge and stovetop, and one who would likely qualify for emergency funding, which SNAP is *NOT.*
The only way to get access to a stovetop and refrigerator from the government is through low income housing. That line is usually a minimum of 2 years long in my area.
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When I was in my early 20s, I lived in what was essentially a studio apartment. I did have a kitchen, but really, it was a sink with a small countertop. I bought myself a hot plate and a toaster oven. I made my own food all of the time because it was more expensive to buy ready made stuff than the raw ingredients. I had to hand wash my dishes, etc.
A possible benefit to single ingredient SNAP items: kids may actually want to go to school to get the free lunch of nuggets, fries, etc.
I heard Mike Huckabee cooked fresh killed squirrels in his popcorn popper in college!
Now that’s creativity!! 🤣😳😆
no reason at all. I lived in a hotel room for several months. You can adapt to that. instead of going to the neighborhood shop for a coke and chips, get a water cooker, some small cooking stove, and cook yourself. Maybe cooking lessons should be included in the package! It seems some of these people cannot boil water.
Fresh veges = "heat and serve."
Fresh fruit = ..."serve!"
Everything can be cooked on an electric hotplate.
I don’t understand how you can live in a hotel and need snap.
I was In Tampa recently , the social services put family in a hotel in emergency housing. The place had a large refrigerator and a 2 burner stove top.
So temporary housing not permanent housing. Then snap shouldn’t be involved.
I don’t know. Every state is different i think. I was eligible in upstate New York being on disability and well below the poverty level. Don’t know about Florida.
You should be eligible because of your disability and your income level. I was talking about affording hotel and being on snap. If you have the money for hotel living then you don’t have a need for snap.
I like the idea of replacing SNAP with MREs.
If it’s good enough for our military it should be good enough for our citizens.
It's not really good for our military. MREs need to be upgraded. Snap needs to have more nutritious limitations, not be replaced by MREs.
Yes plus as someone pointed out, the calorie count is more suited to people doing hard physical work all day.
Our military is not treated very well.
😬🤢 but, that IS Govt supplied food. Might be the way to encourage working to get above it. 😅
I know 2 people who currently get snap benefits. Both are disabled and cannot work; really, truly cannot work. I want their benefits restored and improved. To believe that everyone on snap is a grifter is to ignore the reality of who most often receives the benefits. Most of the grifting is done by stores who illegally obtain knockoff machines that allows them to charge everything to snap.
I have No problem with people getting SNAP who need it. I think it’s the exception right now not the norm. Cut out the corruption and the people who need it could get more to live off.
Statistics say it is the norm per Capita numerically, but the big grifters are taking huge amounts of money. Imo, that's where to focus.
Poison food stocks might drop.
It is a good idea, I think. Don't give money. Give "food" but more specifically, emergency food. It is what they sometimes do in catastrophic events. It makes more sense anyway. Even with all of the electronic processing, it takes time and more people involved before anyone actually eats with the current system.
That might be cruel and unusual punishment?
MREs are NOT healthy foods, they are processed and loaded with carbohydrates. Only intended as field rations- eat too many and you don't have to wonder why we have an obesity problem with troops. My son who is in the National Guard gained a bunch of weight last time he was on his yearly one-month training, because all they ate were MREs.
I only chewed the gum if I was desperate I would eat crackers and peanut butter. Never with the cheese 😅 I couldn’t stomach looking at that’food’
I eat clean due to illness, one of those would disable me for days ! and loose weight I can’t afford to lose.
I bet there are several warehouse all across the US filled with MRE’s
Except if I recall MREs are about 4k calories each, which is why one is supposed to get at least one, preferably two meals from other sources per day when in the field. (Personally, I was fine with C-rats, but 'progress' and all.)
If we think they're rotund now...
Nope. Just imagine the corruption and contract-bidding for lower costs and quality. Meals On Wheels is a good example of this. The quality varies tremendously depending on where you are in the country. In NYC for example, the portions are miserly, the quality poor and the service unreliable.
One of the subjects of sitcoms was when one of the main characters lends money to another, and the other character spends it frivolously, then the main character gets angry about it. The most recent version of this was "Everybody Loves Raymond" where Ray's brother uses the loaned money to take a vacation.
Similarly, I remember a couple times giving away computer equipment to friends and not liking what happened to it. One friend gave the computer I gave him to a local church. Another girl I have a computer to...to help make her like me, used it to find her first husband. Ah irony.
The lesson learned is that if you give something to someone, you can't control what it is used for. The one exception to this might be government, but there are ways around that as well. I imagine someone with "conditional" SNAP benefits can buy unprocessed foods, sell them, and then use the money to buy processed foods.
If you are caught selling your snap benefits not ONLY should you never collect them again, you should be prosecuted for defrauding your fellow citizens
Jimmy is positing using SNAP $$ lawfully, not fraudulently.
I definitely am for that, but moreso for no SNAP. How much is a package of ramen noodles? 12 for 3.99. The cost of not having to adhere to any SNAP restrictions...priceless.
You mean glyphosate noodles.
As opposed to money for food tainted by government involvement.
Yes but it would be much more difficult and done less often because healthy fresh whole foods have a much shorter shelf life than processed foods. Like one week vs one to two years. We have to stop resisting changes just because some people might find ways to take advantage of it. Compared to present SNAP fraud, changing to only nutritional whole foods would yield much less abuse.
I agree. One of the fundamental laws of human behavior is we are lazy.
The irony is, as we have seen, lack of SNAP benefits led to lowered grocery cost. So without government assistance, people will pay for what they need rather than what they want.
My argument isn't for more SNAP restrictions, but rather no SNAP altogether.
Remember welfare started out being given to a very few single mothers, and look how it morphed.
Definitely, all in the name of compassion.
The very thing meant to get people back on their feet actually became a dependency.
The *entire* point of the program is to assist those who CANNOT pay for what they need. ABUSE and inefficiency of the program are what should be eliminated, not actual assistance for those who need it.
Exactly. Well stated.
Dave Ramsey makes this point (and the opposite way round too—he who pays the piper calls the tune) very frequently.
Beggars can't be choosers.
The problem is that the government usually causes more problems than it solves. Add restrictions to SNAP benefits, and most likely, the people being punished are the honest ones. Then again, honest people will feel guilt for having to take the benefits to begin with.
Like honest people, destitute should be able to use SNAP benefits to buy alcohol if they want.
I am sure that SNAP benefits are being used to indirectly buy alcohol. The mere reality of alcohol addiction makes this true.
The irony is that the government was the very one promoting the "food pyramid" which influenced the current obesity crisis.
I am not worried about “punishing”. If there is such a program, it should do one thing—provide food, not treats, not alcohol, nothing but the basics. It’s supposed to be a stopgap and temporary help to prevent people from starving. People who need it can live with the standards, like people using WIC have, for years and years.
It is ironic that the people arguing on behalf of SNAP benefits are usually overweight, but I don't think that is accidental either. If you are poor, the idea would be to buy the most food that could last the longest. So, purchases made with that in mind are usually processed.
That’s a modern thing. People used to make do on inexpensive cuts of meat, beans and grains. Since the welfare programs began, it’s all about laziness and an attitude that everyone else is responsible for fixing your problems.
They are selling their card for about half price. They get the cash and the person who bought it gets the full benefits. Fraud at its finest.
But the taxpayer still gets debited for the full value - redistribution of wealth
That is a crime of the person, not the program. Enforcement of eligibility is badly needed.
Completely agree. The program needs a complete overhaul and have everyone apply again.
50 cents on the dollar. Some neighborhood call it pay day.
Doug Casey is a huge opponent of charity, saying it distorts everything, and as you say, is often abused, and creates resentment when it happens.
Local charity, neighbor to neighbor, doesn't have that issue. Government is not the solution.
Didn't say I agreed with him, nor practiced what he preached. Government is never the solution to anything. There is no problem they cannot make worse.
Especially when it goes through a nameless faceless government bureaucracy.
Many parents sell the snap 50 cent on the dollar to support whatever habits they have & the kids fog hungry. I saw the same thing ten years ago in upstate New York Oswego county. I gave a friend food & was heartbroken when she saved the Halloween candy for herself and boyfriend. I brought it for her children! I didn’t talk to her much after that incident.she was second generation of dependence, teaching her kids how to make it 3 generations. So frustrating.
It's a common tale, it also happens with things like child support. The money that is supposed to be used for basic needs, is used for things like alcohol, and tobacco, as well as things that would have been known in the seventies as "treats."
Anyone who wants to sell his SNAP-bought apples for cash to use at a Dunkin' Donuts Drive-Thru to buy an apple fritter has my blessing, for sure ~
No, that’s fraud. Selling your food stamps is fraud and you should be prosecuted..
I think that was tongue in cheek? At least I hope so 😛
My dad loved a good Apple Fritter, and Dunkin made great ones. I don't know if I could conscience buying an Apple Fritter with SNAP benefits
No, no ~ that's why a SNAP recipient who wanted one would use *cash* to buy one, that is the point. My dad AND I both loved Dunkin' apple fritters ~ what's not to like? :) Just not an appropriate purchase for Uncle Sam to subsidise, I would argue.
I agree, definitely not "appropriate."
I saw a reel a while back that spoke of some of the SNAP recepients as unable to cook. For real. They never learned because their mothers and fathers never learns and on up the line. Now, part of me goes, you have GOT to be kidding, but I agree that the USDA should provide nutrition and cooking lessons as part of the requirements of receiving SNAP. Beyond that, I find it infuriating that so many are on the dole and ok with it, if they are real people. But, the level of corruption is astonishing. We talk about Zelensky, but we have had the same problem. People steal, no matter if it is illegal, and we have to figure out how to have real safeguards.
If they can learn how to play the system, learn how to manage YouTube etc.....they can learn to budget and cook.
Ever been on You Tube? What can't you learn to do there? Again, back to lazy
There are definitely real people on the dole and ok with it, I grew up knowing many like that. It’s an ongoing problem and has only gotten worse since I was a kid.
Multi-generational welfare families. No shame. It is all they know and all their friends are in the same situation.
Yup. I knew quite a few where I grew up.
You can look anything up on YouTube for instructions.
Tons of cooking channels focused on inexpensive cooking.
There is something to be said about a society that has no shame. All bets are off. You have people with anxiety disorders going on planes with their emotional support animals. People going to shopping centers dressed in pajamas.
I didn't have cooking experience either, but I can microwave, and I know how to boil water, also know how to use an oven.
That being said, my mom was very protective of her kitchen. She cooked alone, never asked for help, and definitely did not want it. The kitchen was her domain. There was also no complaining about the food. She was a good cook, but if we didn't like something, we did without.
As a SNAP recipient, I fully agree with you about the one ingredient qualifier. I have always found it weird that I can use my SNAP benefits to buy any number of crap items, but cannot use it to purchase a very inexpensive rotisserie chicken from Costco because it is considered a restaurant food. So a huge very nourishing $5 whole chicken, which is less expensive than even the uncooked version of the same chicken in the cooler case, is not allowed. There are many dumb rules like this, unfortunately.
IKR? Weird, and frustrating. I commented above that I think the regs say something like SNAP items cannot be sold "hot at the point of sale," although now there are at least nine states that choose to offer RMP to their SNAP residents ~ a "Restaurant Meals Program." Certain restaurants, such as some McDonald's, can opt to participate; it is up to each restaurant whether or not to do so. Also re: hot food ~ in my city, Amazon chooses to offer the rotisserie chickens in at least one of their supermarkets cooled, deboned, and repackaged. They have them in a refrigerator case featuring prepared foods like sandwiches, and that is the only way we SNAP users can use SNAP funds for Amazon rotisserie chicken. Comical, really ~ in this case, the *more* prep on the part of the seller makes the food a covered benefit rather than not. Make it make sense ...
Yes, that is definitely nonsensical. Another reason why a WIC style program makes more sense. That way rotisserie chicken could be acceptable but not, say, popcorn chicken.
I think you'll find that many SNAPers, not all but in general don't cook and don't know how to cook (I exempt Hispanic illegals from this group; they still tend to cook, and pinto beans and rice are favorites)
Our local food bank has a very difficult time getting American patrons to pick whole foods over processed, and veggies are REALLY unpopular. This is not an urban area either.
Typical story is when our church group was putting on soup/sandwich luncheons at the food bank (which opened at 1pm on Thursdays). Heard many variations on the theme of "No thanks, we just ate at McDonalds"
That’s a “them” problem in that case. Sorry, I have little sympathy for people who whine about going hungry yet only want to eat McDonald’s and processed foods and turn up their noses at anything else. Beggars can’t be choosers as they say, and if you’re that picky, you can figure out a way to fund your own food budget 🤷♀️
The understanding "liberal" way of thinking is.... "the poor should be able to eat whatever food they want, just like everyone else. You're mean to suggest they don't eat at mcdonalds."
How long before fast food places start accepting SNAP, etc?
Yes that’s exactly the mentality.
I’m not asking SNAP users to live any differently than I did when I made less than the poverty level for several years. I didn’t receive any help from anyone to pay my rent or bills or food yet I still managed. I didn’t get a lot of treats and had to be super frugal but I got by. I didn’t think it was anyone else’s responsibility to pay for those things for me. This whole entitlement mentality is out of hand.
I don't disagree with you.
However.... it seems that younger generations are wired differently today. Not all, but some. Perhaps it's the "special snowflake" effect? A culture of narcissism? Social media? IDK. But I do think for many the idea of "cooking your own food" is in the same category as "build a car yourself."
There were people like that when I was growing up too. But it’s possibly become more common or acceptable. There are definitely lots of people making all kinds of excuses for this population in any case.
Had a flat tire once. My 30’s something man friend came out to help. All he had was “ I can call triple A “. He couldn’t get the lug nuts loose either, he didn’t know how to do it. I showed him. I’m 90 pounds and frail at the moment.
Because they are “wired differently” (meaning they’d rather not be inconvenienced by working so they could take care of themselves), doesn’t mean the rest of us should take care of them. I worked in food stamps for about a year when I was younger, and the majority of recipients were able bodied. For many, it was generational. Definitely a choice. Very few who just fell on hard times, were in between jobs etc.
Nah, it's not narcissism. It's knowing you're going to work your whole life at a job you hate and never be able to afford a house or a family, while all the while your tax money finds its way up the corporate food chain. Given that equation, I don't blame any American for getting as much entitlement from gov't programs as they can.
Your last sentence, which is only too true, gives me an actual "The end is near" feeling ...
They already do!
OMG. Really? I had no idea. [insert eyeroll.]
At least in my idiot state, they do. https://www.propel.app/snap/restaurants-that-accept-ebt/
The irony in your statement is that the people who eat at McD's are for the most part poor or incredibly health-unconscious, the exceptions being people who are traveling and have few options near the freeway exits. There's a wide range in eating "just like everyone else", true. But I'm guessing most people don't eat regularly at McD's, or at least I hope not.
There are at least nine states now that offer RMP ("Restaurant Meals Plan") to certain SNAP recipients (must be over 60 years old, disabled, or homeless to be eligible), where SNAP dollars can be used to purchase meals at certain restaurants, such as McDonald's. Each participating restaurant signs up individually to be part of this plan, and the state maintains a list of participating restaurants.
>>How long before fast food places start accepting SNAP, etc?<<
They already do.
Some already do.
Yeah you can't have it both ways and I would argue, if someone can whine about being hungry, but argue that they only eat Mcdonalds, are not going hungry. When you are really hungry just about anything sounds good.
I don't care if beggars are choosers (like who am I to judge) but I have zero sympathy for people who make stupid health choices. I also don't like tax dollars going to subsidize (bc that's what it is) a private restaurant chain. If tax money is getting distributed to restaurants it should be to mom and pops', food-trucks and the like so the money stays in the economy instead of bleeding upward to corporate coffers. But really, unless you have some outstanding situation, like homelessness or fire loss, you shouldn't be getting restaurant vouchers.
My Aunt tells me they have a food bank at her church in Spokane, and have had parents turn up their noses at generic Mac-and-cheese because they want Kraft. 🙄
I would be willing to bet that Kraft puts addictive additives in theirs. The book "Fast Food Nation" opened my eyes to a lot when it came out (in ancient times :)
I remember during Covid when grocery shelves were sometimes empty the one thing left in produce was kale!!
Kale used to be so good. After lockdown , it tasted like metal. Spinach too.
Our church used to do a Tg meal but stopped when the guests complained about having “turkey again”. There were lots of similar meals at the time during Nov. so the people got bored. Now none of the churches do it.
Sad. Thank you for trying!
If you pay for the food you have the right to complain about it. Thus food coming from a church, or any charitable organizatioon...sorry, but no.
Leggo of my Eggos
(if I knew how to add emoticons, there would be several grinning faces here, lol) Indeed! OF COURSE, *everyone* is free to buy anything he or she wants in any supermarket, always! The only issue at hand is the expenditure of government (meaning: taxpayers') funds ~ should I (or any citizen) demand same to fund my "treat" budget? *Results of this poll may vary, as our faithful author likes to say. :)
Haha! But takes only a few minutes to make delicious food from scratch.
"Nobody better lay a finger on my Butterfinger™"
Hahaha.
I totally agree and that’s why I came to comment this morning. I’d rather see soup kitchens where people could eat three meals a day from food that is donated from local farms or restaurants or grocery stores that can’t be sold at full price. Let’s get rid of food deserts.
I just read an article on the 3 meal a day "scam". We don't need to eat that much and Americans certainly overeat everywhere. Hubs and I are eating one meal a day with coffee in the morning and we feel better than ever. It is a very interesting time, figuring out all the things that make us healthier. Eating what is in season is something nobody ever mentions either, but I think it is worth taking note. IMHO.
Hubs and I have eaten just 2 daily meals for years, and are better off for it. I actually couldn't eat a lunch because my breakfast keeps me full for many hours. Eggs/bacon/cappuccino and a few cherry tomatoes and half an avocado each if we have them, then dinner of some sort of meat and veg. We buy everything fresh and are lucky that California does have an abundance of produce always available.
My first meal is noon at the earliest if I eat two meals. If I’m busy I’ll go until dinner and only have one meal, maybe a snack an hour later. My morning vitamins are taken with electrolytes and that holds me for a few hours. But then my bullet proof coffee with MCT oil and collagen peptides can make it easy to not feel hunger until dinner time. Intermittent fasting has been great. I lost so much weight on Keto, and I’ve kept it off because of fasting.
I've been putting a squirt of MCT oil in with my eggs if I scramble them...maybe a couple of teaspoons worth.
Agree. My dad used to check his watch to see if it was meal time. He was rarely hungry but was conditioned by the military to three squares a day.
We had the same dad, lol! When my mother would say, "Russell, are you ready for lunch?" my dad would invariably say, "What time is it?" It drove her crazy that he never seemed to know if he was hungry. For 65 years. But she kept doing it. And so did he. People are adorable.
I think it depends on the person and your lifestyle. I am extremely active and do well with three meals a day. But I can see how it might suit some people to only have one or two.
Whole organic foods should be the standard. However, many such items don't even exist in many places around the country, unfortunately.
Well, I think organic is a great *personal* standard, but for GOVERNMENT DOLLARS provided to qualifying low-income recipients, I think simply actual whole food would be a big improvement to the current low standard when it comes to defining "nutrition assistance."
If organic were required, then that would encourage more growers to grow organic. Less poison sprays. More health. Win/win.
Generally speaking, the more demand for organic produce, the better, but I don't think it's widely available enough for it to be reasonable to subsidise ONLY organic.
Exactly. But whatever improvements might be made, Johnny will still find a reason to complain 😑
I'm sorry if pointing out basic realities is complaining to you.
I don’t think I have EVER read ANY comment from you that is not some form of negativity or complaint. Reality is not *just* bad things. I acknowledge the bad but can also find the good. I prefer to find solutions to problems rather than endlessly complain about what’s wrong. It’s also okay to make progress in small steps and not solve the entire problem at once. That’s still making a positive difference and is to be celebrated imo.
And keep them from Medicaid
The way around this is to stop subsidizing big agriculture and chemical companies to poison our foods. We should actually (or at least eventually) be striving towards an elimination of "organic" "standards", which are also a scam in so many ways, though started with the best intentions. If the agrichemicals were forbidden there would be no need for "organic" and we'd all be healthier. It's been over a hundred years since there was no poison in any of our food. Even in the late 1800s and early 1900s there was widespread adulteration in the food of the poor. You can read Upton Sinclair's The Jungle to get an overview of what caused so much government regulation and intervention in the food supply in the first place, rules and regulations the parasite class has harnessed to our detriment.
Even canned or frozen fruits and vegetables are better than junk foods and ultra processed garbage.
Yes, but my point is still the same. Many organic products simply are not available in any form in many parts of the country - rural areas, midwest, inner cities, etc.
Rural areas? Are you joking? That’s probably the easiest place to find organic food. Have you ever lived in a rural area?
And let’s not have the perfect be the enemy of the good. If people are at least eating minimally processed food, even if it’s not organic (and some farms actually produce pretty much organic foods without the certification because it can be expensive) is much better than what is going on now.
As I said above, I live rural. Largest grocery store is 30 miles away. Their selection of organic is practically non-existent. Drives me insane. And, when the little stand in that town is open, things are expensive. I was going to buy a homegrown ribeye for myself, but it was 23 bucks for a .82 steak. The struggle is real and I want to support local, but I have to go 75 miles to get real cream for my coffee. Like I said, now that I know, I can't unknow about all the BS they put in our food.
Yeah I think it varies by location. Could you get in touch with a farmer who sells 1/4 or half directly then you can freeze it? Where I grew up the decent grocery stores were 30 minutes away but we went every two weeks and stocked up, and supplemented from the garden and foraging otherwise.
Those places should get seeds and soil. Convert parks and rooftops into gardens.
Yes, that is what people used to do! Keep a couple of chickens and have a small garden. Some cities have community garden plots available. I think there are lots of approaches that could help solve the problems, that don’t involve the government giving people what amounts to a blank check for buying junk.
SNAP used to cover vegetable seeds, I don't know if that has changed.
I've lived in rural areas most of my life. I'm currently trying to help my parents eat better and this is a constant problem.
Well that has not been my experience at all. I lived in a rural area for many years, and we foraged, had a garden, and could get good quality meat and eggs from neighbors and farmers.
You referred to “many areas around the country”—which areas specifically? That’s pretty vague and quite a generalization. Do you have reliable data sources on that?
Organic and pesticide-free is hard to find at grocery stores in much of middle America and the East Coast, especially in smaller towns, outside of the big cities.
Simply not true. While inner city bodegas might not carry organic, every grocery store in every place I've ever lived did. (which absolutely includes the Midwest, South, NYC and upstate, west coast , rural, semi-rural and urban).
I think people need to read more carefully. I never said organic products aren't available - there is a serious lack of variety in the places I noted. Prices also tend to be quite high. I've lived most of my life in rural areas and have extensive agricultural and gardening experience - from family owned CAFO farm to starting a small scale organic hop farm and small scale organic vegetable farm. I'm very familiar with what I speak of.
You said
" Many organic products simply are not available in *any form* in many parts of the country - rural areas, midwest, inner cities, etc.
So yes, I did read your comment carefully.
Perhaps you meant that ALL organic foods are not available in EVERY area, which of course would be accurate, since all forms of any product are never available everywhere.
I think you used too large a brush, since I can directly contradict your contention that organic is somehow difficult to find. Never found it to be an issue.
Eating well is not cheap. Europeans spend twice as much as Americans on food because most of them won't eat crap. I got comments for eating day old bread. Again, it comes down to priorities. Tats and apps, or good food?
Johnny-O, Your experience sounds educational. So, perhaps the issue is attitude?
And if they are available, they're usually expensive. This would cause the dems to want to double or triple the SNAP budget.
If you shop around and do sales you sometimes can get them for the same or similar prices as non organic. But that takes effort.
One thing I think is important is to eat seasonally. Like now would be squash/sweet potato season, summer is pineapple, and we just came out of apple season. Just my opinion, but it seems the smart way to eat since that is what our ancestors HAD to do.
Agree. I sometimes get foods out of season but generally adhere to this rule also.
Do you find the better food you eat, the less you need to eat??
Correct. I would love to be able to afford to eat wholly organic. Ain't happening on my salary
Ditto. I can't afford organic paint chips anymore.
Or organic mini marshmallows.
They are pricey. I settle for the offerings at Trader Joe's here.
Grow your own? Have garden plot allotments?
I live in rural Idaho and THAT is the truth. Have to go 90 miles to get any decent food.
I agree completely but snap benefits PepsiCo, Nestle, Kellogs and all other big food conglomerates that are profiting off poor people and their children. I see it everyday. Lunchables, juiceboxes, flavored cereals, Mac and fake cheese....all of it. These companies market this to parent and that is what is at the convenience stores, dollar stores and grocery stores. Tax payer pays Nestlé who them poisons the people creating health problems and then off to the corporate doctor. No politician will EVER stop this money laundering gravy train.
Truly sickening. And pretty scary.
I think one of the. Ingest problems with SNAP is person receiving it is selling their EBT card for
Cash…i.e. get $5000 EBT card and sell it for $3000. Both people are fraud the government. They should at least have their name on it and have to show an ID to use it.
I used to work in a grocery store in the ‘70’s and EBT could not even be used to purchase cooked food from the deli. Raw shrimp-okay. Steamed shrimp-nope. I heard that now they can use EBT at McDonald’s? That can’t be true. Looks like the whole program is another grift that big companies figured out how to get their piece. People who need help should of course be funded but young, able bodied citizens should be given job counseling.
SNAP $$ cannot be used to purchase anything "purchased hot at point of sale" ~ I think that's how the requirements are worded. Amazon, at the largest (and maybe at all three) of their supermarkets in my city, cools and debones and repackages the meat from their rotisserie chickens for sale to SNAP users (and anyone else).
Brilliant! We should start a movement called "NO COMMAS!"
I cashier in a gas station. Whenever I see a person approach my counter with an armload of snacks and drinks, I know they're going to whip out an EBT card so the taxpayers can pay for it.
The "energy drinks" irritate me the most
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If SNAP Recipients need to reapply for benefits, that would be a good time to get a valid ID for voting.
And the opportunity to remove the dead people and double dippers from the system.
This is genius!!!!! Make then use that Real ID . You have to provide proof of citizenship or birth certificate to get one now. No state ID cards allowed.
Have to disagree about Real ID. I believe this program implemented as one more step to digital everything, i.e., super control.
I just renewed my DL, no chance I will ever voluntarily get RID, which is more costly. Instead I ponied up for passport card last time I renewed, and will use as needed.
A citizen can do most anything with the less expensive DL or state issued non-driver ID.
I assume your implication is that lots of state ID's are being issued by liberal states to illegal aliens and crony-supported fraudsters.
I would not go so far as "Real ID" but would support state ID's verified with birth certificate.
Sorry I advise against the “Real ID”. It is direct to digital ID. That is the globalists plan for us to be completely under their control. State photo Id is a good start.
Wow. Nothing like the government getting people to hate on those poor enough to be on food stamps in order to get the sheeple to accept Real ID! No thanks! I'll take grifters over signing away my right ANY DAY! Not that those are the only choices. Thus positing creates a false dichotomy. Food stamps can get cleaned up without resorting to 1984 measures.
Apparently cleaning up free money is an anathema to public “serpents”
That's a lot of racisms stuffed into one line. My gosh how do you live with yourself.
Racism? Abolish SNAP and replace it with a job for money. They can take their money and buy their own food.
Actually, as I recall, Clinton wanted work requirements for any welfare. The corrupt ACLU shut that down.
I think that was tongue in cheek 🙂
Explain how that is racist.
shoulda added the /s
Adding the /s might have helped with some of those replies.
One idea, not yet completely formed, is to take the "public grocery" concept from the communists and apply it to only SNAP. Instead of waiting for their ideas to fail, implement it properly within current systems. When government pays for things, those things go up considerably in price. This isn't necessarily the case when government supplies things directly though. Public Grocery workers could consist entirely of the "Will Work For Food" crowd... this could be so much fun.
Just deport everyone who gets SNAP. This would solve many, many problems.
That has echoes of that old joke: feed the poor to the hungry and solve two problems at once
Love Workfare 😀 your welfare check “entitles” you to a government assigned job.
Well....there is the problem of children born in the US of illegal or non-citizen parents with low income....the child can be eligible for SNAP.
2 illegals don’t make a legal. Children of illegals are still illegal, this insanity has to stop
Agree. Automatic citizenship for anyone born on US soil needs to be modified.
Doesn't need to be "modified"...simply "clarified." Citizenship was never meant to be conferred on a child simply because their parents set foot in the USA. The citizenship clause says "and under jurisdiction thereof"...and illegals are not under jurisdiction of the state. SCOTUS will eventually have this case...
I hope so!
They are called “anchor babies”…there is a whole industry using “birthing hotels” for pregnant women coming here just to give birth for that citizen paper for the child. They flourish in SF and NYC.
I’ve heard of that despicable ploy. Only USA is dumb enough to allow this. My cousin, citizen of Austria, married a Chinese woman while working in China. When the air pollution was ruining his lungs, he moved his family Vienna, Austria. His wife and daughter had FIVE YEARS to learn German or they would be deported. How do you think that law would fly in USA?
I remember eating at a cafe in Vienna ~ a decade ago, and our server was a young Romanian women. Her English was good, but she said she got a lot of negative comments from locals she waited on that she did not speak German.
I am in a household every month for 12-14 days. Immigrants. One of them has been in the US for 20 years and a couple years ago got her citizenship. She does not speak English. It drives me crazy when I am there. I have decided that I will no longer play "charades" with her in order to communicate. The rest of the household accommodates her by speaking her native language.
My understanding is that this is the issue. One person in a household receives the benefits and must be a citizen. But the size of the benefit is determined by the number of people in the household and those people need not be citizens. Or even related.
I think that might be changing under the current regime, and that the requirements are becoming stricter relative to the *lawfulness* of individuals' presence in whatever state it is. That's my understanding of the latest developments, and certainly my hope for the future.
The problem, as I understand it, is that the funds come from the feds but approved recipients are handled by the states. The feds have requested the data from the states, in order to determine who is illegal and receiving funds. At last reading, only blue states refuse to provide the information.
Keep in mind that one if the things which DOGE accomplished was to allow different agency computers to talk to each other.
The State’s are self-reporting and the Federal Government reimburses them. The sticky situation is when the State over reports their SNAP payments… then they owe it the government.
Precisely...why the blue states will not share their data showing what they did with the money.
It does not appear to be so. The non-citizen parent can receive on behalf of the citizen child but does not have to include other members of the household in the application, thus not exposing any other illegals.
https://forumtogether.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Immigrants-and-Public-Benefits-FINALupdated.pdf
That may be. But that is not what I described.
I merely gave a source.
When we can have Chinese babies who take our jobs with special visas..
Deport them all.
My post exactly. Make ALL US LEGAL CITIZENS reapply, with valid birth certificate or naturalization papers. You don’t get a voter registration approval UNTIL YOUR LEGALITY IS VETTED. No fake refugee citizenship allowed. This will clean up the dead and double dippers as well as the illegals.
you should run for office
I tried to follow the lines to see for whom your comment was directed. If me, I am too old and, more importantly, too honest. No one wants to hear honest. And that's the God's honest truth.
If everyone who is on SNAP is forced to reapply, in person, to verify if they are still eligible, I am guessing that at least one-quarter, if not one-half, of the current recipients will disappear from the rolls. The illegals, the double dippers, the deceased, the couch potato 20 somethings living in the basement, and the completely non-existent claimants will all be removed from the program! Hoorah!!
SNAP payments almost doubled when Buyden opened the border
But I thought illegals/non citizens weren't getting benefits?/s
Nah, liars and gimmegrants don’t think rules apply to them, they’ll find some lawyer to fight for “their right to democracy” Argh! I’m so sick of the fraud.
"gimmergrants" I learned a new word today!! 🤣🤣🤣
Not all immigrants are "gimmegrants". We need to remember to separate the ones who came here legally vs illegally.
The way I read it, the “gimmegrants” are just the ones who come here expecting handouts.
LEGAL immigrants, ones who actually paid the fees and followed the rules, I don’t consider gimmegrants. But the swarm of fake “refugees” are VERY SUSPECT.
Yes, the best thing is just to deport all of them. SNAP should only be given to people who already have a job, but just don’t make enough. Everyone else on SNAP should just be deported even if they’re citizens.
Fucken ludicrous.
I think more than half will drop off.
Now maybe more illegals will take advantage of Trump’s self deport deal.
Junk food inflation will disappear.
I think it is more like 75% will not be eligible. There is a lot of abuse.
My understanding is that the recipients are currently screened. But the size of the benefit is based on the size of the household and household members are neither required to be citizens nor related to the recipient. So when people say "illegals do not receive benefits" that is technically true, but many damn well benefit from the recipient's benefits.
Yes, enforcement is a bad joke. It *must* be fixed; like everything else governmental, it sometimes seems.
Yes, another institution marched through. And whoever tries to change it has thousands of employees that don't want to change it because Orange man bad, and , well if the program is cut 50 to 75 percent, most of them lose their jobs.
We need to know the true GDP minus the gov.
Be careful shopping at Aldi's.
Most of their packaging indicates the product contains bio-engineered ingredients.
You have to read ingredients everywhere! Aldis does carry 3 ingredient sourdough bread that is excellent. They also carry multiple pastas from Italy which are minimal ingredients as well. Aldis is also great place for organic fruit and veggies....a lot more options than regular stores and better prices.
Never having been a health conscious person, this all seems odd for ME to be saying. But, like some find Jesus and tell about it, I found health and like to share. I have healed my daughter's DIBILITATING mental health issues with avoiding all ENRICHED products.....folic acid is synthetic and toxic to many. Seed oil, artificial dyes, and names you cant pronounce are as evil as the devil.
A lot of their goods come from Europe, where there are more stringent rules about additives. You need to read labels, as always, but you can get a lot of decent products at Aldi.
Yes, I used to shop at an Aldi, and that particular store remodeled four years ago, and carries even more items. You can't beat their prices on all the basics, and they have an excellent selection of produce, and now carry even types of "gourmet" products at very reasonable prices. They have a huge frozen food section as well. Their fresh meats are a great buy, the last time I was able to go there. Sadly, I cannot drive there anymore, but I may look into their delivery option using Insta Cart.
Dad was former plant manager of largest chocolate company in Canada , and he said Aldi's had great European chocolate.
I think Aldi is a German company, so it would make sense that many of their products would come from Europe . We don't have an Aldi anywhere near us, so I've never shopped there
I believe Trader joe’s owner is brother to the Aldi’s owner. I know it doesn’t relate to the above comment. I think it’s interesting.
I think you’re correct regarding Trader Joe’s
Here is the history:
https://www.foodrepublic.com/1836465/trader-joes-aldi-company-connection/
Aldi = Albrecht Discount, first opened in Germany 1913.
It is German. Like Lidl, which is only in select areas right now (wish we had one!).
Right. I’m not sure why Kathleen is calling out Aldi’s. Is it any worse than any other grocery store? And shopping there for many years now. It’s a lower priced option to Trader Joe’s, which offers many similar products at a higher price. That said, I tend to avoid buying processed foods in general.
Still in Germany… food is excellent here… there is a big difference.
People care about food more in general in Europe, I find. They have higher standards. A significant number of people here are only too happy to eat sub par food.
A late comment… I am concerned that Trump is listening to the wrong people on many things….
Maybe I can hope for something like this… sort of like , praying that he comes to his senses….
https://youtu.be/gtEKXaUkQRI?si=RLDwL-QAKARgbtlJ
I only buy pasta made in Italy and with minimal ingredients.
Saw today that Trump wants to raise the tariffs on pasta from Italy which would double the prices.
I am about to place my first order from Azure Standard. They are a large organic farm with their own line of products. They also have cultivated 1000s of organic and health conscious brands. They sell and drop ship to community drops. I have 3 drops within 30 to 45 min from me. I have a 30 min drive to get to any store anyway. You can find locations of community drops on their web page. Im in nw fl and they drop once a month. Prices are good, especially if buying in bulk.
I have been hearing more lately about not relying on Italian flour and bread in future. I got impression it was related to Italy doing something to it in future but maybe it was tariff related. I've read a lot recently about importance of freshly milled flour as it oxidizes quickly. That has made.me.rethink Italian flour.....cant be fresh Id think. I see alot of people.starting to mill their own flour and having great health benefits.....I just dont have THAT kind of energy anymore. I am toying with idea of making my own sourdough bread....perhaps, maybe, I might.
I don't mill my own flour, but I did start making sourdough-- it's so fun and easy, especially with the helpful information people are putting online (I'm making homemade crackers right now with leftover starter).
Einkorn flour, Italian is what I try to by, as well as various whole grain flours. Bob's Redmill makes some excellent blends too
I only recently learned about Azure. They have a drop in a city near me where I used to have to drive to for groceries, at the nearest Walmart and Aldi. However, the last year I have had to rely on food deliveries, no longer able to make that 30 minute drive. And my food budget is too small to be able to spend any on Azure, unfortunately.
I belong to a local group.
Yes freshly milled flour is healthier and has all the nutrients naturally that are removed from the processing that are then added back through chemicals. This video by Bread Beckers talks about the basics of milled flour.
https://youtu.be/8sCDVxxj0gk?si=t2EAQTVCrGhB_Hi3
Azure Standard is a great option if you have a drop nearby. Recommend highly. That’s where I bought my wheat berries for fresh milled flour.
That’s the way to go. You can grind your own wheat berries in an Osterizer blender. Keep the berries in the freezer until ready to use and bugs won’t get to them.
You can keep them in a food grade bucket with a sealed lid to protect from insects. I can’t keep 50 lbs in my freezer.
No glyphosate roundup on the wheat.
Thank you for this. I've been looking for an alternative to the local rancher who only wants to sell a 1/4 cow. Other alternatives require membership, minimum purchases and are expensive.
Yes I only buy Jovial made in Italy. Brown rice pasta. GF. I’ll be sad if Trump does that
Einkorn wheat is also grown in the United States at Amhurst and also the midwest.
Ugh! This just doesn’t end. The US allows so many ingredients that are outlawed in other countries. I know this has been mentioned already but I hate it. I will go buy a year’s worth of pasta
Einkorn is great too. They use the original very small kernel Einkorn wheat, which almost went extinct. Comes from Italy too.
Also einkorn is grown in America.
We’ll see if it really happens.
I don't like to quote MSM, but I needed the exact figure on the price rise.
Looking at a 107% increase in price.
https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/italian-pasta-tariffs-trump-rcna243264
Plus you know MSM does everything it can to make people panic and despair and turn against Trump. I take what they say with a grain of salt.
“Looking at” being the operative words.
Hope it doesn't fly.
Such a bummer. I went to Italy 6 weeks ago. American pasta (wheat) is very inflammatory so I avoid it. I had heard from others that in Italy the pasta doesn't cause problems so I tried it myself and confirmed it. So I will occasionally buy pasta now but only if it's made in Italy then Trump decides to tariff it 100%. Ugh
Having spent two years in Italy, I highly recommend only buying the "best" pasta, rather than the cheaper brands, such as Barilla, Cucina (Aldi), etc. It means spending a little more but not that much.
So... Trump placed tariffs on most everyone... now takes credit for improvements in "affordability" by removing or reducing those same tariffs?
Only Trump sycophants would buy into THAT load of BS!!
(I know YOU don't)
It will only increase prices until demand drops. What the market will bear
There are just things that shouldn't be touched.
Pasta. Coffee.
Chocolate!!
Amen.
And emulsifiers which are found in many packaged foods regardless of being "organic" or not, are very detrimental to your gut microbiome.
I concider them additives. My gut and mold issues, no cotric acid based preservatives, my stomach rejects them and weakness instead of nourishment!
Kudos to you. My wife tried everything she could to change the way our daughter ate to fix her chronic depression, but she never did do it
I read a piece last week that seemed above-board that said iodine is not necessary and can be harmful.
If your iodine is off, it messes with your thyroid. Conditioners in breads and pizza dough really mess with the iodine levels. Mercola wrote about this year's ago.
Yes, the bromine they put in all flour products displaces the iodine and make you deficient. You’ll be cold and your hair will fall out snd you’ll get cysts and tumors and skin tags among other bad things.
It had never hit my radar.
Taught by a PhD herbalist, any easy way to tell if you are deficient in iodine, get a small bottle from the drugstore, dab a quarter size spot on your arm. If it’s gone in 24 hours, you are likely deficient. Deficiency can affect a number of functions to include your heart.
That’s interesting, thanks for sharing!
My friend's thyroid doctor told her to avoid carrageegan, which is made from seaweed. Apparently loaded with iodine, which was messing with her numbers. The heavy cream I buy from Costco has it, and I see it in a lot of other ingredient lists. I can't even trust my morning coffee anymore.
It's probably safer to eat the packaging...
The bio-engineered ingredients forced me to stop eating peanut M&Ms.
Peanut M&M’s are my weakness. I take 8 supplements to mitigate the side effects 😎
I used to like to have a small bag in my purse while traveling. Oftentimes, it was just enough to tide me over until I found a restaurant to have a real meal.
Sprouts here has 70% cacao coated almonds...
Not as good, but....
I wish there was a Sprouts where I live.
Good documentary "Plague of Corruption."
Available only this weekend.
Good chunk on what they did to our military.
https://x.com/amigofilmstudio/status/1989729623178121412
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Good documentary "Plague of Corruption."
Only available this weekend to watch.
Good parts on Fauci and what they did to our military.
https://x.com/amigofilmstudio/status/1989729623178121412
Juicy Fruit has bio-engineered stuff, possibly all gums do now. Pathetic!
And so many of the other gums and mints have artificial sweeteners.
Just viewed a video explaining what gum is currently made from... https://www.facebook.com/share/r/17PTRv5UbV/
I found 2 gluten free gums at health food stores. Non gmo .
There's an organic alternative out there some where? Try Whole Foods or some other expensive venue?
Yeah, I am an inveterate bargain hunter and while we are pretty heavy on real foods vs processed junk, although I have a few weaknesses, I am not paying more for some of this stuff billed as healthier options and lean towards everything in moderation. Not convinced that organic is the panacea that some claim it is, although I have friends who swear it has cured various issues. MIL has a big garden and I plant an anemic one with little success, but mostly just buy the cheaper options and have no health issues other than recovering from a knee injury that had nothing to do with what I eat, lol.
Our holistic Dr says Fresh is more important than organic.
I have heard that too. As well as some foods being more important to choose organic than others. For some, it doesn’t make that much of a difference.
Also the food dyes.
Pesticides too.
Too much sugar. You made a good choice.
Kathleen look for Justin’s dark chocolate peanut candy pieces. It’s organic peanut m&ms.
I used to buy chocolate and melt it over nuts I got from Aldi as my candy and good salt
They’re delicious.
Thanks for the tip!
M & M's come with nano-particles now.
Finally just started buying mints made in France with only 3 ingredients.
"Les Anis de Flavigny mints contain only three primary ingredients:
Sugar (beet or organic cane sugar)
Natural mint flavoring
Green aniseed (a single seed forms the center of each candy)
The mints are all-natural, free from artificial colors, flavors, preservatives, and GMO ingredients. The slight color sometimes seen (in other flavors) results from the natural color of the flavorings, and the mint candies themselves are naturally white from the sugar coating."
https://www.anis-de-flavigny.us/
I love those!! 😍
And the tins they come in are little works of art.
and Reeses cups.
Me too! Formerly my only favored treat!! 😭 Now I won’t touch food dye.
My weakness is potato chips (though not in large quantities) and wine. I have heard that the 2 vegetables that are nearly impossible to not have been affected by bioengineering or GMO are potatoes and corn.
I eat potato chips every day. Figure I am getting potassium from eating them.
I attended a lecture on Nutrition years ago. They actually said that there is more Nutrition in the cardboard box than in the contents. This was in reference to boxed breakfast cereals. Thankfully, there are entire aisles in the grocery store I don't need to walk down.
We have a grain grinder and it is wonderful. Bread, muffins, waffles, and more. We are just getting into sourdough. Freshly ground flour is in the bread within 15 minutes which preserves the Vitamin E among other nutrients.
The home milling of wheat and ancient grains has exploded. I ordered a mill in July, was backorder till Dec. I patiently waited, but last week the date was pushed to late March. I canceled, ordered a different brand. Also backorder, but have hope for an update next week. These are popular brands, and they can't manufacture them fast enough for demand. People are waking up to what is in our food, and doing something about it.
Brilliant!
There are several peer-reviewed studies showing that some of the packaging is more nutritious than the ingredients contained within.
For all our ‘wealth’ our food is killing us.
Don't doubt that.
And the mule it came in on.
LOL
YES. So disappointing. Cereals are one of the worst. Oats too It’s insane isn’t it? You think you are eating healthy until you read the fine print. READ everything. Put an app on your phone. Like YUKA. It’s not perfect but it can be extremely helpful.
It’s overwhelming but take baby steps. One thing at a time, for instance, change your oil you use NO veg, NO Canola. NO seed oils. Instead use Olive oil, butter.
I switched four years ago and only use butter, saved strained bacon grease, tallow, avocado oil, and occasionally coconut oil or olive oil. Including products I buy with multiple ingredients, I don’t buy if any seed oils are used. Huuuuge difference.
My mom and grandmother would always save bacon grease.
I still do and keep in fridge not on counter like my mom did back in the day.
Yep, I have used only real butter for years, and stopped using seed oils a few years ago, now only olive oil. I do have coconut oil and avocado oil in the pantry, and after I cook ground beef I save the drained fat in the freezer.
I use mainly olive oil and butter with occasional use of coconut oil. Olive oil has been my go-to for many years, since my mom was half Italian and I was used to always having it on hand.
Avocado oil has a higher heat point so that’s why I use it more for cooking. But I use olive oil when it’s a low or no heat dish. I dry tomatoes in the summer and pack them in olive oil with rosemary and fresh basil and OH MY LORD the delicious flavor of that olive oil is heaven. So when I’m done using the tomatoes I store the leftover oil for cooking. Yummmm
Butter & olive oil in a 50/50 mix: spreadable at room temperature - and it’s green!
Since I read that olive oils can be adulterated I am leery of olive oils and use avocado or coconut oils for frying. They have a higher smoke point too.
https://www.epicurious.com/ingredients/seven-ways-to-tell-the-difference-between-real-and-fake-olive-oil-article
I am careful if where I buy them and their origins. But yes, that is unfortunately an issue with some.
As they say in the article you linked, you can distinguish good olive oil by taste. My current favorite is from Portugal and tastes very “green” and “grassy” and “bright.” It’s delicious.
What brand olive oil is that? I used to get a green looking one but can't find it any more.
olive oil, avocado oil and butter are our go oils
I also use coconut oil.
It's really hard to get away from seed oils.
They're in EVERYTHING.
no kidding. It's the recent we seldom eat out or take out anymore. You can safely assume over 90 % of restaurants fry in soybean oil, and over 95% of restaurants cook in canola or soy. So unless you are eating raw, or steamed, or baked, you are getting seed oils when you eat out. And raw salad dressing willnhave seed oils in them most of the time
I buy non GMO gluten free there. Getting me through the roughest time I’ve ever had, seeking a divorce, had to flee. I like the cheeses from Australia and Ireland but I always have to read labels. It’s always changing
I'm sorry. Try to take care of your health = & mind.
Thanks! Autoimmune issues w/mold , every day a different challenge. My husband has been dating his ex my whole marriage and milking my mom for money. I thought I was allergic to so many foods, once I ran away, I’m not allergic to them. I wonder what he was doing to cause my mysterious weight loss . On the Ritchie Shoemaker protocol , as best i can, helps a lot.
They’re now putting sawdust in everything as a filler, even in cheese. They call it either “cellulose” or “fiber”. Causes the leaky gut syndrome.
I’ve ran away from “Vegan cheese “ at pantry with that “ cellulose “ Scary!
Also in SoCal I once went to their nearby store and found the bathrooms were unisex. I hate that. Where I live most of the bathrooms are still segregated, sometimes with an extra bathroom for ???
I will stick with Trader Joe’s. The two chains apparently have similar origins (founders I think) but different ownership.
There is an app called “Yuka” with which you can scan the bar code on any product. It will tell you all of the ingredients and whether they’re healthy or not. Also, on some of the products you can email the manufacturer and ask them to take all the crappy ingredients out.
I don't have a smartphone.
Become a label reader and you will find MANY ORGANIC as well was clean foods there without bio-engineered ingredients.
Tillamook cheese uses a bioengineered rennet. That really burns me.
I bought some jerky sticks from Tillamook during covid.
One of the ingredients was carmine for coloring which are bugs.
It is, you’re right. It a natural dye.
That bug dye (red) is the only thing I am allergic to. It makes my eyelids swell so I can barely open my eyes. It developes slowly and takes about 12 hours to go away, with antihistamines. 😖 But it is ‘natural’ so not a problem.🙄
Oh my. Thanks for the info.
I was surprised that a company like Tillamook would use it. Not sure if they still are, but I remember once I realized what I was eating, I tossed the rest.
Noooooooo!!! 😭 Thanks for the warning!
Tillamook used to be my favorite. I noticed the quality has changed. O well
Please stop calling it Aldi's.
I used to work at Nordstrom and people loved calling it Nordstrom's. Like nails on a chalkboard
Welcome to Aldi world, Jeff! Managing an Aldi store, and then multiple stores was my first job out of college; from 87-92. German owned, their operations could teach DOGE a few lessons. Everything they do is in the name of efficiency, which is how they keep their prices so low. A flooring tile company went out of business and they bought the entire inventory for a big discount, and every floor in every store at the time had the same tile. I got a bonus for discovering that boat batteries from Wal Mart worked in our floor scrubbing machines and were half the price of the batteries from the machine manufacturer. They monitor and only carry items they can sell in volume and thus get volume discounts on everything they carry. So it's likely you won't get everything on your shopping list there but the things you get are cheaper than competitors. We were required to visit competitor stores and price staples like milk and bread and if anyone beat the price, they would lower it.
Their world headquarters is in my city so I’ve shopped there for over 18 years. I don’t get everything there but I get quite a lot. I do get upset when I fall in love with something they sell then they stop carrying it as it was a “special” offering. Soooo many of my favorites have disappeared. Most recently Savorite almond crackers with a VERY low carb count. I loved those and used them as a substitute for bread crumbs etc. They supported low carb lifestyle for a while there but recently stopped carrying many things. 😫 But I will always love them because they cut our grocery bills in half.
Yes, the 'special purchase' items have expanded massively since I worked there. Have bought everything from coco liners for my hanging planters to German spätzle in the special purchase aisle. But they do shift items around a lot - goes back to volume - with limited space/small stores. they focus on the fastest moving items. So if I like something that's more niche-y I stock up just in case.
Agree. I discovered a Deweys Meyer Lemon cookie knock off at Aldi but it has disappeared.
❤️Aldi anyway.
Excellent. I have a new one 5 mins from my house and have only been twice. Yesterday I picked up lot of produce and different things I want to try and see if I like. I just have to get organized and remember to bring bags but I'm getting there.
I used large boxes to pack my groceries in my trunk from the cart. Easier to stack and carry. Then returned my cart to get my quarter back. No carts were ever in the parking lot. Genius idea of Aldi.
Thanks for the tips.
You’re welcome.
Yes, and I keep a quarter in my car's console for the cart. There are usually boxes laying around you can use if you forget your bags.
Bring bags. Self serve is credit card only. Usually only two or so checkout lanes. Bring change to use a cart.
I saw stories that they were the first to in stall vax passport technology to enter and shop at stores in the UK and Europe. Had little turnstiles like in a subway. Would scan proof of vax to let you in to shop. The value is there, I make my negotiations, but I will never forget. And if they ever try it at my local store rest assured I'll never shop there again.
Wow, never saw anything about that! I don't remember even being yelled at for not wearing a mask back when our county had a mask mandate in place when I shopped at our local Aldi, although it's possible I've forgotten. Most retailers were pretty hit and miss in our area, it was mostly a random employee who was power tripping.
Wow, talk about the pot calling the kettle black: so the WaPo editors say that Trump is keeping the story alive! Have they noticed what the dumbos in congress and the press have been saying for a year? I guess that is too much news for the propaganda brains to understand
and Epstein had nothing but still commanded vast media attention- so now we know where Schiff his game plan from
It's always the same people in the media doing awful things. Stacey Plaskett, Delegate from the Virgin Islands where Epstein's Lolita Island was, takes a willing suspension of disbelief to imagine she and authorities in the USVI didn't know what was going on. Some sleuthing on her revealed some interesting connections.
Like Cong. Jamie Raskin. Who leaked the stolen emails in order to try to embarrass Pres. Trump:
https://abcnews.go.com/US/ghislaine-maxwells-alleged-prison-perks-spark-raskin-probe/story?id=127368629
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/11/rep-jamie-raskin-responds-after-getting-caught-red/
An interesting connection to Plaskett:
https://www.cityandstateny.com//personality/2021/03/del-stacey-plaskett-is-a-new-yorker-at-heart/175100/
"I had several offers when I came out of law school. And interestingly, (Rep.) Jamie Raskin, who was the lead impeachment manager, was my professor in law school. And when I had three or four offers when I was coming out of law school, he was the person who said, “You really should go and be a prosecutor."
Another interesting connection to Plaskett. James Comey:
https://awpc.cattcenter.iastate.edu/directory/stacey-plaskett/
"Plaskett then worked on the staffs of Deputy Attorney General Larry Thompson and his successor, James Comey. Plaskett left government to be a deputy general counsel at United Health Group, then moved to the U.S. Virgin Islands and worked in the private sector and with the Virgin Islands Economic Development Authority."
About that "economic development" in USVI. How she upset the VI favorite to win her Delegate seat. Epstein's interests in USVI were certainly a boon to the economy:
https://wp.viconsortium.com/?p=7090
"In what has to be one of the biggest upsets in Virgin Islands politics, Attorney Stacey Plaskett has won the Delegate to Congress race against seasoned politician Shawn-Michael Malone, who’s also the sitting Senate President and a well-loved figure in the Virgin Islands."
Plaskett doth protests her connections to Epstein a bit much, no?:
https://viconsortium.com/vi-government/virgin-islands-newly-unsealed-documents-expose-delegate-plasketts-email-soliciting-epsteins-contributions-and-extending-fundraiser-invitation
"In 2014, while scrutiny was being re-ignited around Epstein’s plea deal that allowed him to serve only 13 months in jail after being accused of pedophilia and major sex crimes, the V.I. Economic Development Authority, chaired by now-governor Albert Bryan Jr., approved the renewal of the South Trust Company’s tax benefits."
[FF Note - Stacey Plaskett worked for VI EcoDevo from 2007-2014 as General Counsel. Nope, nothing to see there]
"Ms. Plaskett said that she was unaware of Epstein’s campaign contributions until after it was reported in the press subsequent to her campaign’s federal filing. However, newly unsealed evidence submitted by JPMorgan’s legal team show that Delegate Plaskett in 2018, had personally requested that an invitation to her Bloomberg fundraiser be sent to Epstein. “I would be grateful for his support and the support of those that he may direct to assist me,""
https://dailycaller.com/2023/06/22/plaskett-virgin-islands-epstein/
Same people. Same exact people at the heart of awful things in US governance. Stacey Plaskett, connected to Jamie Raskin, Jeffrey Epstein, and even throw in some James Comey, to boot!
Right?? I had the same thought. They’re such morons 🙄
Was this a Trump bait when he implied releasing the files was absurd? I agreed that the Democrats had almost two decades to hang him if it was there, and the same time to erase what they could. So yes, their Providence could be tainted.
Yet maybe Trump knew what was there was mainly the Democratic party and wealthy affiliates, so he tagged them to think he desperately did not want the files released. If they are as they appear, the DOJ has had time to document the Providence of whatever is in them. I assume this includes the Grand Jury records the Democrats blocked the release of.
The only way this could have stayed hidden was with bi-partisan involvement. ICBW but I think the pedophila was just one prong of Epstein's game. I think it was a large, international blackmail operation that Epstein was the face of but was not the controlling force. That is why so many people were obviously involved with Epstein but vigorously deny sexual impropriety. But I would bet dollars to donuts that there was a different impropriety involved.
In libbie land hypocrisy is considered a righteous virtue.
agree, and also they accuse conservatives of what they continually do, and say it with a straight face!
He IS keeping it alive. First, get the Democrats to all vote for the files to be release and when they implicate the Clintons and others, they can't say he was going after his political enemies because Trump DIDN'T want the files released. Keeping it at the forefront with fake fighting with MTG, Massie and others will keep eyes on it until it plays out.
I'm sure that the SEC commissioner will lock em up.
served as SEC Chairman from 2017-2020. This is Trumps investigator. How about the stock deals related to all financial decisions made by Trump for Pfizer.
The snide claim that "the SEC commissioner will lock 'em up" as "Trump's investigator" while sneering about phantom Pfizer stock deals is a sloppy mash of errors and innuendo. Jay Clayton was SEC Chairman, not commissioner, and his 2020 warnings against insider sales—however lax—never tied Trump to any personal Pfizer profit. No evidence links Warp Speed funding to illicit trades, and the Epstein files show only Epstein’s one-sided grudge, not Trump’s guilt. Virginia Giuffre, the redacted “victim,” explicitly cleared Trump of wrongdoing. This isn’t skepticism—it’s rumor dressed as insight, crumbling under the weight of actual documents.
Who bought stocks in Ozempic when it was placed in Medicare? MRNA shots?
Not pointing to Trump
He has his own donors
"Thus the Drug Trust, while maintaining the Stalinist Communist Government in Russia, simultaneously maintained a Communist back up regime in the United States, the Trotskyite Movement, in case the Stalinist regime should fall."
Eustace Mullins
Murder By Injection.
My critique of your Epstein-Clayton smear was concise, accurate, and firmly grounded in the facts: you mislabeled Jay Clayton as an “SEC commissioner” rather than the Chairman he actually was; the alleged Pfizer stock scandal tied to Trump was entirely fabricated; and the newly released Epstein files reveal only the pedophile’s one-sided vendetta against Trump, with Virginia Giuffre—the very “victim” Democrats redacted—explicitly testifying that Trump never flirted with her, touched her, or engaged in any wrongdoing.
Your response was not a rebuttal but a rhetorical escape hatch. The reply—“Who bought stocks in Ozempic when it was placed in Medicare? MRNA shots? Not pointing to Trump. He has his own donors”
—immediately abandoned the Epstein discussion, tossing out vague pharma insinuations without names, dates, or proof. It then capped the deflection with a 1988 quote from Eustace Mullins alleging a shadowy “Drug Trust” simultaneously backing Stalin and Trotskyite movements, a passage utterly disconnected from Clayton, Epstein, the DOJ probe, or any event in 2025. This wasn’t engagement; it was ideological static—a 40-year-old conspiracy fragment repurposed as commentary.
The World Order constantly intensify all problems through the foundations, so that political and economic crises prevent the people of the world from organizing against them. The World Order must paralyze their opponents. They terrorize the world with propaganda.
The World Order
Eustace Mullins
Bard the Tard
Dont be shy. What are you thinking.
see above, He knows
You mentioned that you disapprove of "snide comments".
I must be over the target
You may have me there. However your comments irritate for the reasons I stated without the snide part, and refusal to engage in rational discourse. In general I think your are caught up in many many decades of disparate groups striving for power, and falsely connecting them to some grand plan, and lack in detailed contrary research to the story you have bought.
—“They were uncountable, like ticks on a dying deer from Fauci’s backyard.”
🤣🤣🤣
Why isn't Fauci in jail for lying to Congress?
I’d like to see him there too but the act of lying to Congress doesn’t seem to get punished very often 😕 I’m waiting to see, it it may still happen. But I’d rather the charges be more severe. There are so many different things to tackle at once to get our country on the right track and get some accountability for past wrongs.
No one arrested?
Big Pharma is powerful and AG Blondi is corrupt.
They might be waiting for the statute of limitations to kick in. 💉💉💉
Requiring SNAP recipients to reapply for benefits is so simple and brilliant. It should automatically expel illegal aliens who will not reapply. It should also trigger a requirement that all recipients must reapply annually. WOW. a program that actually promotes accountability.
Reapply every 6 months.
Put a sunset on all.
And now we are learning that 100s of thousands of dead people are still receiving SNAP benefits. You'll not be surprised that most of this data is coming from red states which are complying with federal requests for the data. Imagine what we would learn if everyone complied.
I forgot about the illegals still in the country. Oh please, please reapply.
The democrats had the illegals sign up for all kinds of reasons.
Should make it easy to round up the dumb ones.
Once we get the numbers on the blue commie states can you imagine what the numbers will be. That will also help curb the voting nonsense. I wish we could get a new census before 2030.
Great write-up by Jeff Childers on the bizarre Epstein stuff that came out over the last two days.
And I have no idea if PDJT's actions were a reversal or a long-planned counter offensive, but it doesn't matter. Good job Mr. President, we want the truth NO MATTER WHERE it leads. Please keep up the pressure, particularly on your cabinet. This stuff has to come out as people are so tied of being lied to.
This is why I wait before completely doubting him. I can express my concerns at any time and do, but it takes a LOT more time to pass before I would publicly shame him or call for an outrage. In the past his base railed on him and complained he was betraying us when he wanted the Epstein drama to stop. But had he done then what he did yesterday he would have immediately been accused of going after a previous president and pursuing opposition with lawfare. So, get the Democrats to demand investigations and release of files, and now he can do it without the rest of his momentum in other areas being overshadowed. THEY asked for it. So it may have looked like he was turning 180° back then - but in the end he was biding his time strategically.
Let the man work!
I don't know if you've seen it but there's an internet meme that says "trust the plan" and "always chimp" with a pair of arrows going between them. The idea is that though we trust PDJT's intentions, we don't stay quiet when he does something beyond explanation, particularly when it's the diametric opposite of what we voted for.
Nobody on the right voted for an Epstein cover up. Nobody voted for high numbers of H1b Visas taking American jobs. Nobody voted for half a million Chinese taking university spots from American students.
So when PDJT says stuff that supports this, we really have no other choice than to go nuts (that is, "always chimp"). He may be getting bad advice, he may not understand what his supporters think, he may be being lied to by his own advisors. We don't know. His support the mRNA vax is a really good example of this. I can't remember who told the story but one of his insiders was asked by PDJT, "why do I get booed when I bring up the vax at rallies?". The advisor had to tell him, he honestly didn't know.
If it's all 4-D chess then he's free to ignore us and spring his trap when he's ready. No harm, no foul. But if he really believes this stuff then we need to let him know it's not okay.
That's why all this disloyalty talk is so disingenuous. Yes there are disloyal people out there, but there is such a thing as constructive criticism.
I think there is a fine line between reasoned criticism and knee jerk reaction though. And the Vax thing is very off-putting to me. He was told he faced a world shattering pandemic. He responded, as he is wont to do, decisively and proactively. Was he wrong? In hindsight, yes. But 1) he was played by Doctors Fauci and Scarf; and 2) he did not lock down the country or mandate forced vaccinations. And really, were we not all played by the Fauci/Scarf cabal? At least initially? I was. But before the vaccination was available I had a come to Jesus moment. I had gone to the grocery store. Masked, gloved and sanitized. I sanitized my cart. If I picked something up it went in the cart. None of my usual perusing the ingredients and rejecting questionable products. I checked out despite the cashier having to touch my items. So I sanitized the cargo area of my vehicle. When I got home I was opening the door to enter my house when I was nearly panicked by the thought "[M]y shoes. Oh Lord my shoes are contaminated!!!!" Followed by the immediate thought "[W]oman you are about to lose your mind." I opened the door and wore my shoes into the house. Everything turned out fine. It was the end of my Covid hysteria. Praise be. I have OCD tendencies and it could have been bad. But a lot of people were not that fortunate and too many still suffer from some iteration thereof.
Look at the direction he is going in, not at the particular step he’s taking.
If you’re in a bad place, every step is going to be bad, but it’s good if you’re stepping in the right direction - out of the bad. Let the man work.
I agree to a point.
The under thirty-five crowd don't believe the lies we all bought into until recently. They never did. Tucker Carlson has talked about how he mindlessly repeated propaganda for thirty years before finally waking up. He's talked about when talking to young podcasters that they mock him for his gullibility back then (and rightly so). They are very clear eyed about the state of the country.
That's why the Epstein stuff is kryptonite. They supported Trump because they thought, "this guy is different, he's not one of them". Remember Rogan even endorsed him to his largely male under-35 audience after a lengthy interview.
Then that July DOJ memo came out that said "nothing to see here" regarding Epstein. Trump defended the memo and Bondi. The under 35 support for Trump cratered almost instantly. These are the same people that didn't show up in the elections a few weeks ago. "Turns out he's just like all the rest" was their conclusion.
This is what Trump needs to understand, he needs supporters of all ages, not just crusty old farts (or which I'm one) who soaked up propaganda for four decades. Authenticity is incredibly important to those under 35, and for all Trump's alleged faults, he was seen as authentic. That was until the Epstein debacle.
So yes, let him work. But also continually remind him why we elected him. There's time to recover before the mid-terms but he needs to work to regain that trust.
I'm quite cynical and expect this to be mostly a limited hangout. However, maybe we will see a lot of unredacted material, but it will be only a few truth tellers outside of the MSM that find the pertinent info and get it out to us.
We'll see. Having voted for PDJT six times (including primaries) my recent frustration was that he seemed to think he could make this go away. It's not. I never had any suspicion that he was involved, but it seemed pretty clear that he thought he could BS his way through it.
I suspect he has noble intentions (e.g. thinks the stuff is just too awful to put the country through), but people just want truth. People are slowly waking up to the fact that we've been lied to and manipulated for decades. We elected Trump to stop that. That's why the Epstein stuff resonated so hard, no more lies regardless of who the truth takes down. We're not children, tell us the truth so we can evaluate it ourselves.
Perhaps this was long planned 4D chess move, but more likely it is a response to the recent elections and pretty awful polling particularly among those under 35. But like I said, the reason doesn't matter provided this is a genuine move. PDJT gets the benefit of my doubt unless we see more stonewalling.
I think it is worse than the pedophilia stuff. I do not think the unprecedented tea party at Windsor Castle between the king (you know a real one) and Trump, followed by the demotion of Andrew Moutbatten-Windsor in short order, is coincidental. And that was followed by the king's visit to the Pope. After 500 years.
US Government Admits Chemtrails Are Real (It's Worse Than You Think)
Tucker Carlson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s8A6hkS1CUE
time for Zeldin to get busy - this is poisoning our food
If we don't end geoengineering, everything else that matters so much to so many won't mean a thing. https://geoengineeringwatch.org/
I am in Arizona and I saw them cross-hatched across the sky on Thursday. Friday morning there was a massive haze across the whole valley and I had scratchy eyes and nose all day. This stuff is POISONING everything and I cannot understand WHY it is not stopped. I watched Tuckers show and the fellow who has done all the research and was so knowledgeable seemed very frightened. We all should be.
The great poisoning takes many forms. One would think it would be a priority to stop it. The spraying in N AZ got substantially better for a while, but lately its been full bore again, unfortunately. We are watching a lot of it today, as a storm system moves in for the week.....how man made is it and how natural is it, one can only guess.
Central MT skies cris/crossed all last week. Ruined the beautiful blue sky.
Contrails form when hot, humid jet exhaust freezes into ice crystals at high altitudes (typically above 26,000 feet). Short-lived contrails dissipate quickly (seconds to minutes) in dry air, where ice sublimates rapidly. Long-lived, spreading contrails persist for hours and widen into cirrus-like clouds in supersaturated air (high humidity with respect to ice), allowing crystals to grow and spread via wind shear. This “contrail cirrus” can cover large areas, reflecting sunlight or trapping heat, depending on conditions.
Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors.
es weather modification is real and is all the Tucker show demonstrated
I know the airport traffic pattern here. # patterns for miles, not normal.
Right? Psyops are amazingly effective at getting us to disbelieve our own eyes. But the plandemic psyops has inoculated a lot of us to that kind of deception. The "fog" is dissipating. Reminds me of the movie, The Fog.
Watched this Phil, it is really sickening.
I just watched and saw Tucker say that contrails didn't exist when he was kid, or he didn't notice them anyway and a crazy person rattle off every buzzword for a substance, real or imagined, is sprayed from airplanes. The crazy person supported his argument by saying that the covid vaxines have heavy metals in them. The amount of ignorant spew was mind boggling. Crazies always say that they know they are correct because no one will talk to them and we can't prove they are crazy because every single bit of evidence is covered up.
I have checked Dane's references in the past because I am in aviation and was stunned by what he was saying so I wanted to see the details, since that's what I know about. It turns out that he is an idiot or a scammer. He constantly conflates cloud seeding and silly ideas and tests about controlling climate with contrails from all the commercial jets we see every day. There are cloud seeding projects going on all over the world, they are not secret, they advertise what they are doing and invite people to come see sometimes, although Dane and Tucker keep saying people are being secretive to make it sound scary. All the misapplied 'facts' and plain fantasies are easy to debunk but frustrating for people to listen to. Whenever someone starts talking about 'purple leprechauns' (things that are imaginary), most sane people stop listening, one reason is because they don't know enough about the topic to say "Stop right there, that's wrong, this is why, and that's why your whole argument is a fantasy, stop being an idiot". I, on the other hand have plenty of time and know why this is stupid to believe.
I'm disappointed so many people are so gullible and so arrogantly stubborn to learn why they are wrong while claiming 'no one will talk about it'. They are like the ones they accuse - they only listen to people that agree with them. The problem with all these 'depopulation' conspiracies you crazies are constantly terrified of is that most are not real and the ones that are have failed.
You know, in the past ten years or so, I've learned a lot about being gaslit. I felt something was off with Obama's regime so I began to pay attention. Of course, since then it's gotten very obvious yet so many people still have no clue. Anyway, I've learned enough to discern when I'm being bull-shitted by the media, the Gov't or whoever.
I'll tell you what. If you really believe what you are saying then, go for it. We can revisit this whole subject in a year or two and tell me if you are still convinced... or not. That'll be interesting. Honestly, all you have to do is start watching the sky and question what you are seeing. I know the difference between an actual contrail and what we are now seeing. It's as clear as comparing an apple to a watermelon.
I'll take your 'bet' about how this will turn out, especially in one year. I started checking out Dane's references, studies and whatever other evidence he has used to support his argument several years ago when I first heard about it, my crazy uncle was sending me crap. Since then nothing has changed, they still do cloud seeding, and its still not secret. People still use any tiny reference to, or evidence of, cloud seeding and the planes/equipment used to incorrectly vindicate their fantasy. I don't think you do know the difference between contrails and what you are seeing because there is no difference between contrails and other contrails. The only difference is the atmospheric conditions that day at the altitude the jet is flying. Dane said on Tucker that most of the planes doing the chemtrailing are military or civilian marked planes from military bases, but you can see look in the sky, see a plane putting out contrails, go to https://www.flightradar24.com and find the airplane above you and see exactly what plane it is, where it came from and where its going. I'll bet another $1 that you will never find a military plane putting out a contrail. Military planes do make contrails the same way any jet engine does but statistically you won't see one, you'll get too discouraged that every plane you find is a civilian plane going from somewhere to somewhere else, not planes flying from/to military sites like Dane says is most of them, he describes his assertions as 'indisputable facts', but like all schizos, he's wrong and doesn't understand he is holding up a sign that says "I am an idiot". I just explained how you can dispute his fantasies with facts, but I'll bet you won't check. Where can I go to see these chemtrailing planes on the ground? Or anything else that would be required to dump the millions of tons per year Dane is claiming? As I said, I am involved with aviation and airplanes and many, many maintenance type guys, they all hear chemtrailers talking about 'purple leprechauns', and wonder WTF guys like Dane are talking about, they are the ones that would be installing and operating this equipment, but its all fantasy, you can't find any credible person that will tell you anything about fitting or maintaining any aircraft with spray nozzles(of course, they have to be secret nozzles according to Dane) or any equipment or material that are supposedly spraying because it doesn't exist except for cloud seeders, which are small airplanes that take off and land at the same airport and don't make contrails because they are not jets. It would take thousands of people from every country in the world that has a commercial airport to be involved, and thousands more to make the equipment and whatever they claim is being sprayed, where are they? Dane says they have been doing this stuff for decades, you think in the next year some of these thousands of workers will come out with some evidence? Some pictures, maybe a sample of what they are spraying? Sounds like I'm going to win this bet.
I love that line: "It's just cloud seeding." Repeat a lie often enough and people start to believe it.
Hit me up in a year or two and let me know the latest and greatest explanation.
Yeah, that's what I thought you were going to say, the same thing as all the vaxine lovers when they see info they can't dispute, nothing. But I am sure you'll continue to claim that 'no one will talk about geoengineering' and that's how you know its real. C&C crazies are craziest. Arrogance and ignorance to the rescue!
"I love that line: "It's just cloud seeding."" exemplifies the challenge with discussing facts with the geoengineering believers, it is never defined so it can't be debunked. What is a lie about cloud seeding? It may be dangerous, I'm not claiming its safe, but its not contrails and its not a secret worldwide program. The problem with geoengineering logic is that it can mean whatever you want and so the decades old practice(not yet proven that it even works, but they still do it) of spraying Silver iodide, Potassium iodide, Dry ice or Sodium chloride into existing clouds to attempt to nucleate a drop of water by giving the water vapor something to condense on or crystalize on is mixed up with ANYTHING you want, but the most common is contrails. Even Dane realizes the silliness of claiming contrails from commercial jets is what his geoengineering definition is including, but he doesn't stop people like Tucker from assuming it in the discussion and thereby claiming or endorsing that evidence of cloud seeding, or crop dusting, or other legitimate, non-secret reasons people spray things, usually very close to the ground, shows a planet wide, secret govt program, to do something(not defined yet), with all word governments cooperating to keep the secret for decades. But you think that in 2 years the entire program is going to be revealed and what I and David are claiming are contrails will be shown to be something else? Like what you say "we" are seeing? What would you accept as evidence that you are wrong? We don't know what you would be wrong about because you or anyone else won't say what "it" is, but what would or could you be shown that would persuade you to say that you are wrong? What can I do to prove that something doesn't exist? I already proposed a way for to check for yourself if the planes you see chemtrailing are the military planes that Dane claims they are, but you won't do it.
Remember a few years ago when we all used to tell stories here in the C&C comments about how people we knew wouldn't look at any of the evidence that showed that the vaxines were unsafe and ineffective? I think you had some insightful observations about their intelligence or whatever, does this seem similar? How about next time you see a contrail go to https://www.flightradar24.com and see what the plane is? Do any experiment you want - make a prediction about what would have to be true about contrails or chemtrails for you to be correct(you might have to nail down what you think geoengineering is, please let us know), then check to see if you are correct. If you tell me what you think geoengineering is, I will help you come up with the test, I'm that nice/generous of a person.
Nothing will change in 2 years. They will still be seeding clouds and some people will still think contrails are a secret world wide program that caused every problem they have. There will be no evidence presented to prove you are right and you won't accept the failure of any experiment you do to prove you are right, because you won't do any experiments and you won't accept anyone else's evidence. So, when I hit you up in a year or 2 to claim my $1, what could I say or show that will make you accept you were/are wrong? I bet another $1 that everyone you knew that didn't accept your vaxine failure/lies evidence still doesn't.
Phil, my post bellow discussed the disparate nature of contrails and how they behave, ( Avery known science written long before the chentrail ideas) and I have shown you the increase of jet traffic over the past 65 years. Please see above my response to Gary. I support his chemtrail skepticism, but do not necessarily equate it to depopulation skepticism for the reasons outlined.
I fully understood contrails before your little lecture. That's not what we are seeing.
An increase in traffic cannot account for this. BTW, if contrails were so prevalent in the traffic corridors, why do we not see constant contrails in these corridors which you clearly imply? Very few contrails are seen anymore with today's efficient engines. Your contrail explanation for the massive chemtrails that end up covering the sky in a matter of hours does not hold water... no pun intended. Clearly, they should be confined to the traffic corridors if that were true.
Oh... and it's real funny when you see a chemtrail being laid down and the spraying is clearly turned off and on every few seconds. But I suppose the engines are being turned off to save fuel. Can't wait to hear your explanation from your expert knowledge.
The idea of climate control is very out there, as in not possible now. Weather modification, absolutely. I have seen , like the current Calif rain, weather as the result of millions of square miles of Pacific ocean systems reasonably predicting what we are seeing now in Calif, and have seen folk call it weather planned by some flights over less then one /10000th of the area the systems formed in with predictable energy.
I will however say that our liberal education has produced a great fear of overpopulation and the "depopulation theories" may have some legs and evidence. This overpopulation and humans are evil and a parasite on nature fear is endemic to modern liberal philosophy and well established within the global warming scam. In my Substack post I quote them in their own words with the following preface about the dark side of human nature...
“The terrible truths of these experiments in human compliance and propensity to be beastly stand testament to the nature of the problem.”
milgram showed us how people will harm people if pressured by authority
asch showed us that people will ignore their own senses and perceptions when pressured by peer group
stanford showed us how easily humans can be egged into abuse of power”
As the world grows ever smaller via human technology, human systems and corporations grow ever more global. It is logical therefore that systems of human corruption can and would also became more pervasive and global in scale. The merge of One world Government and international business is not to be trusted. These people endlessly proclaim how they are doing this for the good of the world.
Here are their own words...
“To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men their individualism, loyalty to family, tradition, national patriotism and religious dogmas.”
Brock Chisholm… Quoted in: Davis, Llewellyn B (1991) Going Home to School, p. 69 This quote is old and the providence is well supported but questioned by some. The actions of the WEF and many other quotes supporting like ideas are not disputed at all.
“The climate summit in Cancun at the end of the month is not a climate conference, but one of the largest economic conferences since the Second World War. . . . But one must say clearly that we redistribute de facto the world’s wealth by climate policy. Obviously, the owners of coal and oil will not be enthusiastic about this. One has to free oneself from the illusion that international climate policy is environmental policy. This has almost nothing to do with environmental policy anymore, with problems such as deforestation or the ozone hole.” Otmar Edenhofer, Co-Chair of Working Group III of the IPCC
“ Under my policies energy prices will necessarily skyrocket.” Barack Obama.
At the Copenhagen conference in 2009, Hugo Chavez was repeatedly interrupted by applause and received a standing ovation for ranting that capitalism must be destroyed and socialism installed in order to save the planet. http://climateandcapitalism.com/2013/03/06/hugo-chavez-on-climate-change-and-capitalism/ Venezuela today reflects very typical results of full force socialism.
”My three goals would be to reduce human population to about 100 million worldwide, destroy the industrial infrastructure and see wilderness, with its full complement of species, returning throughout the world.” David Foreman, co-founder of Earth First.
”A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”
Ted Turner, Founder of CNN and major UN donor.
“The United Nations could become a comprehensive Planetary Regime which could control the distribution of all natural resources.. and all food on the international market.” - Former President Obama’s Science Czar, John Holdren
”The prospect of cheap fusion energy is the worst thing that could happen to the planet.”
Jeremy Rifkin, Greenhouse Crisis Foundation
”Giving society cheap, abundant energy would be the equivalent of giving an idiot child a machine gun.” Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Eco-science”
“The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on climate models.” Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Center for Climate Prediction and Research (Again see attached graphic)
”We need to get some broad-based support to capture the public's imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”
Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Climatology, Lead author of many IPCC reports
”The only hope for the world is to make sure there is not another United States. We can’t let other countries have the same number of cars, the amount of industrialization we have in the US. We have to stop these third World countries right where they are.”
Michael Oppenheimer Environmental Defense Fund
”Global Sustainability requires the deliberate quest of poverty, reduced resource consumption and set levels of mortality control.” Professor Maurice King
”Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.” Sir John Houghton, First chairman of the IPCC.
”Childbearing should be a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license. All potential parents should be required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing.” David Brower, First Executive Director of the Sierra Club
”We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.” Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation.
”No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”
Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment.
”Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?” Maurice Strong, Founder of the UN Environmental Program.
”A massive campaign must be launched to de-develop the United States. De-development means bringing our economic system into line with the realities of ecology and the world resource situation.”
Paul Ehrlich, Professor of Population Studies, Author: “Population Bomb”, “Eco-science”
”Current lifestyles and consumption patterns of the affluent middle class – involving high meat intake, use of fossil fuels, appliances, air-conditioning, and suburban housing – are not sustainable.”
Maurice Strong, Rio Earth Summit. (There are very well researched reports on why he is wrong)
”Complex technology of any sort is an assault on the human dignity.” Amory Lovins, Rocky Mountain Institute“…
”...the world is more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the nationals auto-determination practiced in past centuries.” ~ David Rockefeller, June, 1991, Bilderberg Conference.
“We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis…”
- David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member.
“We must make this an insecure and inhospitable place for capitalists and their projects. We must reclaim the roads and plowed land, halt dam construction, tear down existing dams, free shackled rivers and return to wilderness millions of acres of presently settled land. David Foreman, co-founder of Earth 1st
“Effective execution of Agenda 21 will require a profound reorientation of all human society.” -the UN Agenda 21 Report
These static ideals of one world government and depopulation have not gone unnoticed. One response was the Heidelberg Appeal, which was in reaction to the United Nations sponsored “Earth Summit” in Rio-de-Janeiro in 1992. It has over 4,000 signatures from scientists around the world including 72 Nobel Prize winners. Partial text:…”We are, however, worried, at the dawn of the twenty-first century, at the emergence of an irrational ideology which is opposed to scientific and industrial progress, and impedes economic and social development”… Heidelberg Appeal http://www.fact-index.com/h/he/heidelberg_appeal.html:
So yes, these ideals are there, and a man made virus of great harm was made, and it escaped and or was released, and the CHOOSEN vaccine does great harm to the human immune system and like the COVID virus, passed the blood brain barrier and is deadly. So depopulation can, in my view, be rationally argued. Please check out my always free not a Jews feed Substack.
You might want to recheck the idea that there actually was a virus.
The persistent white trails behind high-altitude jets are contrails—harmless water vapor and ice crystals formed when hot engine exhaust meets cold, humid air. These linger or spread based on atmospheric conditions, a phenomenon documented since World War II and routinely explained by the FAA and EPA.
In contrast, chemtrails are an unproven conspiracy alleging secret, large-scale spraying of toxic chemicals for weather control, mind manipulation, or population reduction—claims unsupported by any declassified program, whistleblower evidence, or physical proof.Weather modification, like cloud seeding with silver iodide to enhance rainfall, is real, localized, and publicly regulated (e.g., used in California droughts or UAE rain projects).
Tucker Carlson’s episode rebrands this limited, admitted practice as “chemtrails confirmed,” but offers no new government admission—just old patents, historical ops like Operation Popeye, and speculative leaps. The sky isn’t poisoning you; it’s just physics, with a side of policy debate.
Chemtrails are real. Geoengineering via cloudseeding and other operations are openly acknowledged. There are many private companies involved and surprisingly they are almost wholly unregulated. There was cloudseeding taking place by a Cali outfit in Central Texas the week before the very devastating, unprecedented Guadalupe River flooding on July 4 of this year. Call me a conspiracy theorist to your heart's content but there is no way on God's little green earth the two are unrelated.
I did not, however, what part of Weather modification, like cloud seeding with silver iodide to enhance rainfall, is real, localized, and publicly regulated (e.g., used in California droughts or UAE rain projects)." did you not understand? The science of contrails is utterly unlike the "Global Warmong pseudo science. Please consider to quote what I said and address it specifically.
The “publicly regulated” part for one. And to say that “cloud seeding with silver iodide” does not involve a chemtrail is, well, disingenuous. Nor is silver iodide the only chemical trailed. FWIW I am not a Tucker Carlson follower so I have no idea what he is pontificating about. But he sure put a burr under your saddle. That type of reaction is always indicative to me of emotion as opposed to reason. Capiche?
FWIW if you are looking for info on "chem trails" you must call them GEOENGINEERING or you'll only see the line that "chem trails are a conspiracy theory" but Geo engineering is most definitely real and happening. And it's terrifying.
That is true. But even in looking up “cloud seeding in Karnes County, Texas on July 2, 2025”, which happened, I got conspiracy that's a theory after that's a discredited conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory result. Methinks they do protest too much.
Weather modification in the United States is governed primarily by the 1972 Weather Modification Reporting Act, which requires operators to notify NOAA of planned activities—such as cloud seeding with silver iodide—at least ten days in advance and submit detailed reports afterward. NOAA collects data but does not license or regulate the operations. Larger-scale geoengineering, like solar radiation management, remains under limited federal oversight, with the EPA issuing rare permits for ocean-based experiments and the White House releasing a 2023 research framework. ( I strongly object to thises experiments and they are rare thankfully)
Recent years have seen a wave of state-level crackdowns fueled by public confusion between proven weather modification and baseless "chemtrail" theories. Tennessee banned all intentional atmospheric alteration in 2024, followed by Florida’s 2025 law imposing up to five years in prison and $100,000 fines. Montana prohibited solar radiation management but preserved cloud seeding, while 22 states introduced similar bills in 2025. Federally, a GAO report called for better data coordination, and Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene proposed a national ban—still pending. These measures risk undermining legitimate drought and flood mitigation efforts amid growing climate pressures.
the flood you referred to did have weather modification practiced before, however where it was practiced and when, proves it was innocent of the flooding, as the practice was not inline with the storms path that went into the flood plain where the disaster occured. (sorry, but facts)
Like I said, surprisingly unregulated. Proven innocent my arse. The only proof is the self-serving statement of the culprit. Nor does your regurgitation of talking points (just not Carlson's apparently) constitute facts. The fact is that the consequences of weather modification are unknown. Whatever else it is, it is interference in the natural order of the earth. A foolish, foolhardy, and arrogant attempt to fix something that is not broken because the one constant on this earth is change. We should embrace that and adapt accordingly. As our ancestors did for over a hundred thousand years. Successfully.
False argument. "Cloud seeding for rain" is not what is happening. That tired cover story is worn out. Do you ever objectively watch what's going on in the sky? Just curious....
In the event you're not aware, flightrader.com, with the 'military or government' filter, shows those types of flights. As I write this, there's a HUSKR16 Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker, and an 'N/A' Boeing KC-135R Stratotanker flying in circles just southwest of Lincoln NE. I guess they're just lost and looking feverishly for the closest airport? Certainly, without a doubt, it's not geoengineering. Here's a screenshot: https://snipboard.io/6ZpVno.jpg
Thanks! That's new to me.
Do you purposefully not respond to,
"Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors."
because if you do not we are engaged in a Monte Python arguement, and not a debate. Cloud seeding is real.
That's a nice mantra.
Uh huh, surrrre! If you were sincerely deluded, I would say, "OK, go ahead and don't believe your lying eyes - makes no difference to me." But I strongly suspect you are an agent of disinformation.
You sound like the same explanations we received all the time trying to convince us an actual wild virus was causing a pandemic that was killing millions of people and that the "covid vaccine" was not a bio-weapon death shot and was "safe and effective" and that the 2020 election was the most secure election in history. I could go on ad nauseam. You are disingenuous.
Take your sales pitch somewhere else. We have good eyes and we know what we see.
I did not insult you. You say we know what we see. What part of "Since 1960, global jet traffic has exploded: commercial flights grew from ~500,000 annually to over 40 million by 2024, with passenger numbers rising from 100 million to 4.7 billion. Aircraft size doubled—early jets like the Boeing 707 carried ~150 passengers; modern widebodies like the A380 seat 550+. The U.S. fleet alone jumped from ~2,000 commercial jets in 1960 to over 7,000 today, with military and cargo adding thousands more. More planes, bigger engines, higher altitudes = far more persistent contrails visible in busy flight corridors." is not true?
As to the COVID crimes, those are real and the two subjets are not remotely similar in either history or science. By the same logic I should belive in the 9/11 conspiracy and moon landing hoax, and all conspiracy ideas. Click on my short Substack with maybe 5 posts, and you will see, I am not what you accuse me of.
weather modification is real and is all the Tucker show demonstrated
"I did not insult you." Gee, I never said you did.
BTW, what do you think happened to the Twin Towers and ancillary buildings on 9/11? You still buy the official explanation? And the Pentagon was hit by a commercial airline?
As to you air traffic equation - well, so many holes but what's the point. You'll simply repeat your "rational" excuses.
But you did insult me, and that was the cause of my assertion.
The collapse of the twin towers is deeply understood and demonstrated by the best engineering models with decades of expertise in skyrise construction and requirements, same with the building 7. You do not want a detailed explaniation of why
the towers collapsed as they did
why building 7 collapsed 7 hours later
why the insurance scam theory is perposterous
why the Pentagon not an airline theory is impossible
etc...
However if you want to tell me what is wrong with the idea that a twentyfold plus increase in contrails forming airline increase and well know conditions that affect contrail expansion and long life is not valid, go ahead and shoot.
I think you are only the second person I have heard point out the reality of how the buildings fell down on Sept. 11, especially bldg 7. I hope your Stack gets more traction. People love being crazy though. I think the most difficult part of persuading a schizophrenic is that they have schizophrenia and can't tell the difference between fact, fiction and fantasy. Fantasy seems to be the most popular.
Clearly, you are suffering from a severe case of confirmation bias.
I don't remember insulting you but if it makes you feel any better - my apologies.
Thanks for the sanity. C&C comments are usually pretty good, sometimes they reveal the main flaw in humans, recognizing reality.
Why are 37 states now calling for a halt to these chemtrails?!
I am thinking people are tired of all the chemicals and metals in the air making them ill and killing vegetation.
CIA
Apparently Epstein alluded to an affair between Vince Foster and Hillary 😝 That would explain a lot 😑
https://twitchy.com/samj/2025/11/14/epstein-vince-foster-hillary-n2421632?utm_source=twdailyam&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl&bcid=ff122adc120777892b0ed7cb36c780a2414bf5035e9b18c4873055cc97b2027b&lctg=23670187
And didn't the Clintons use USAID $$$ for Chelsia's wedding?
Probably.
Well heck they say it's all a misunderstanding.
https://www.clintonfoundation.org/facts/foundation-did-not-pay-for-chelsea-clinton-wedding-or-receive-usaid-millions/
Nice couple: Corruption personified.
Ivanka and jared are not much better.
Don't doubt it. That's politics, and D.C.
I read an article about Sen. Fetterman's hospitalization, and the comments were full of "where was Hillary"? Seems there are a few who are on to her!
Yeah people always seem to have that in the back of their minds 😕 Too many “coincidences.”
Where was his leftist wife when the accident happened?
That Hillary sure is a nice lady.
🤣😆
No one wants to be on The List.
Have you seen Jennifer Welch? She is now channeling Hillary.
Never heard of her until now. She's on television? I don't watch TV. Just stream a few things on my phone or computer.
She’s a podcaster/“influencer” who thinks Democrats should embrace the violent left trend in their party.
Thanks for the info. I'll probably avoid her.
I heard she’s auditioning for Skeletor.
Fr@zzledrip
I suspect there's even more to the story (/sarc)
I visited Ft. Marcy Park on a hot July day.
First thing I thought, "why would anyone come here to commit suicide?"
Hillary got rid of him. Investigators found many carpet hairs on his corpse that were from a White House carpet..
Gutterslut Hillapig also had a child by Webb Hubble... a horse-faced brat named "Chelsea"... who has had MANY plastic surgeries... to no avail.
I have heard the same thing for decades, and believe it
On the left, the new talking point is that there is at least one picture of Trump "servicing" Billy Jeff. Because Trump is now bisexual.
They’ve had 10 years to try to find dirt on Trump. I strongly doubt there’s anything new to find.
Oh brother 🙄🙄🙄
Hahaha. But of course!
I thought everyone understood that was the case.
“Everyone”? There are plenty of Hillary supporters who would pooh pooh the very idea.
I think some people did suspect, but it’s interesting that Epstein also talked about it. Since he seemed to run in those circles.
In 2006 (under Obama ) I was a cake decorator at a large grocery store . I saw Fancy Wedding cakes being paid for
By the snap program. So infuriating!
In the early 90’s, I worked at key food in Brooklyn. The Russian ladies would come in with fur coats and dripping with jewelry.
Stacks of the old paper food stamps in their designer bags. Stacks!
Why does not SNAP use the WIC (Women’s, Infant’s and Children’s) food list? WIC is a GOOD program, administered through dietitians that work for the Health Department. It covers basic, nutritious foods — not junk food. It is designed for poor pregnant women and their infants and young children. If you look in grocery stores you will see the little stickers that say “WIC Eligible”. The food lists and program are already established, so it should be easy to implement. Why not limit what SNAP will buy to the WIC foods?
Food Stamps should be only rice, beans, and a block of cheese.
Elderly and disabled people too , on snap. a handful of more items would be appreciated.
And fresh meat/fish, raw veggies, fresh fruit, and eggs
It should be only to sustain someone temporarily.
There has to be a transition phase where we taxpayers don't have to keep paying for other people's lunch and dinner.
Great idea!!!
I agree and I’ve also said the same thing before! It makes sense imo!
Is it just me or do you get the picture that Trump is the Roadrunner & democrats are Wiley Coyote with an exploded gun in his paws & gunpower all over him?? Or an anvil in his paws falling fast fast from the cliff with the Roadrunner watching him fall?
You’re not the only one thinking that way 😁
https://politicalcartoons.com/cartoon/301894
Hahaha!!!
I thought it was a pretty good cartoon! 😂😁
Let's hope.
—““Trump is keeping the story alive,” the editors sneered.”
Well that’s funny, not so long ago I heard a chorus of Democrat voices clamoring to release the Epstein files 🤔 But now it’s Trump “keeping the story alive” 😑