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The first place to look for the beginning of the homogeneous headline would be the EIB network website. Rush Limbaugh was playing clips of media talking points years ago--at least a decade, I would say. He would link together a bunch mainstream media personalities repeating the same exact phrase about a given topic over and over again--across the board, and the very day the topic became news.

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Back in the 90's Bernard Goldberg (formerly of CBS News) wrote a whole book documenting how all US news orgs took their lead from the New York Times. Once the NYT put out their take on something, all the other news orgs adopted their left-wing talking points in lockstep, often verbatim.

This stuff has been going on for decades, the difference today being that the internet allows immediate unanimity whereas decades ago it took a few days for the party line to congeal.

The real question is who is setting the party line, not how long it's been going on. Seems pretty clear it's the US intelligence community and it has been for decades, since at least the 1970's as far as I can tell.

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The Church Commission in the 1970's uncovered collusion with the three letter agencies and the news media. This has been going on a long time.

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The question I have is who is controlling the US intelligence community? Clearly the Bank for International Settlements has been used by "the overlords" to finance the political take-down of the Western Gov'ts and the kill-shot genocide of the US and the West by buying up the entire western world with unlimited money printing. Attorney Todd Callender has posited that these unseen overlords are the Rothschild family, the British Crown and the Vatican. I have seen no reason to dispute his conclusion.

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There are three places with independent jurisdiction--Washington DC, City of London, and the Vatican. Switzerland also a hotbed for globalist money and organizations. There's reason to believe Operation Paperclip scientists were part of the CIA from the beginning. Who knows but I believe the answer to the problem is the best of the human spirit- love, creativity, and our connection to a Divine loving power.

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Isareal is behind all of it.............they had lots on money in the failed bank. There leader has stated they will take down America several times. Its on tape.

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Good Question, but irrelevant Comrade. We will never be in close enough proximity to deal with such traitors even those in the Coup Gov of the USSA.

Just be sure to CYA there will be enough to keep you busy on the ground in front (or behind) you. :-)

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Agreed! But the world is getting smaller. I'd like to think at some point even they will fall... with a little push. Still if they can for once be identified, that's more than has been accomplished before.

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journolist was called out on party line dissemination a few years ago and was disbanded

https://quadrant.org.au/opinion/qed/2010/07/the-journolist-scandal/

They probably have replacement for sure.

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Yep - was going to mention the whole "Journolist" issue but I figured someone else would get to it first. They literally had "daily talking points" to refute any criticisms of Obama and when the same word or phrase kept showing up in headlines across the country it became WAY too obvious that there was major co-ordination amongst the top media outlets!

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5 years passed and the. There was the BBC’s TNI.

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JFK would like to comment when this iteration started to overthrow the textbook version of gubmint.

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Affirmative. The first Limbaugh clip of that type I ever heard focused on the word "gravitas". Literally two dozen television reporters used the word "gravitas" describing the same story on the same day. This was no later than the mid 1990s.

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It was 2000 when Bush announced Cheney as his VP selection. Cheney supposedly brought "gravitas" to the ticket. I'm pretty well read and had never heard that word in my life, suddenly every talking head in the country was saying it.

It didn't make sense to me back then as the libs hated Cheney, how could he bring "gravitas"? In hindsight his warmongering neocon impulses exactly aligned with the Intelligence Community's forever war plans. Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Syria, Ukraine, ad nauseum.

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Sorry, @Jeff C, my reply belongs under yours:

Here's one such clip: https://youtu.be/oMO6Ic00or4?t=12

Rush talks about the more recent "dangerous to our democracy" talking point and then brings us back to 2000 when news networks talked about W. Bush's lack of "gravitas"

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ad nauseum!!!!!!

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They forgot their dictionary that day and thought it was a cool word.

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I remember “hubris” repeated over and over... I miss Rush 

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Yes, it has been at least a decade since my eyes were opened to the media shenanigans, i.e. blatant lies. It's been about a decade since I enlightened my husband. I remember telling him what I had discovered and he didn't believe me. Then, he started watching different news sources and came back about a week later and told me I was right, the media was lying.

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I’m sure your husband got a attaboy! Lol

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

Jeff, "Media Consolidation" is the search phrase I use to dig into the homogeneous headline trend. This article is a good example that summarizes some of the changes since the mid-90s https://truthout.org/articles/democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications-act/

* 1983: 50 corporations owned 90% of the media market (TV/radio/print-news)

* 1996: 13 corporations

* 2006 : 6 corporations

(Any time a market is distorted, look for the <sarc>helpful</sarc> government thumb on the scales.)

By 2020, we were left with things like the "dangerous to our democracy" narrative: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5BJ1JKMcGM4

Those of us that are of a certain age may recall that in the 70s, most TV news broadcasts had a 'counter point' segment at the end of the broadcast. The one on our local station always fascinated me. There could be a left-wing professor on one night touting socialism, and then a right-wing business man the next arguing the opposite. Marx -vs- Adam Smith discussions back to back, in 5 min clips. For me it was the best segment of the news---respectful grown-up debate! They disappeared once cable TV became widespread. Only in adult-hood did I realize that they were mandated by law, and once the law changed (I think in 1983?) then they disappeared.

For me, the Twitter Files debacle is the natural extension of this trend to the internet: control what people can hear/read, and one can control how they think (at least for a short while, until this deception is revealed.)

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WOW--I guesstimated a few dozen companies "owned" the media--only SIX??? Disgusting! No wonder I don't listen to "news" anymore.

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And Blackrock, vanguard and state street own those six

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So they own the world--then. Christians will definitely be a disparaged group of people--because we believe in our Constitutional Republic and owing allegiance and reverence ONLY to JESUS CHRIST THE LORD of heaven and earth. I will NEVER bow to any "governance person"--ONLY TO YESHUA!!

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Look at how the hospitals have also merged Nationwide ……

Black rock , etc ….

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The last 23 years in civilization have seen so many PRECISION MOVES toward the GLOBAL SOCIETY....most of us were too busy to take notice--but I'm feeling this "tightness" in my heart and mind and I know why. SUPPRESSION, TOTALITARIANISM--is running amok!! No more will our country be a 'BEACON OF FREEDOM' if WE THE PEOPLE do not take decisive action.

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back in the 70's The NY Times had printed on the front page "all the news that's fit to print". At that time it used to be said that "anybody who is anybody between Boston and DC reads The NY Times". I wonder if either os the two adages still holds true!

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Our local newspaper had that slogan too--when I was growing up. No more--because it's not locally owned.

I never read the NYT.... The Philly Inquirer was my "big city" go to newspaper - :-)

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Except in this case it was government taking its thumb off and deregulating so the consolidation could happen.

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Good point. TV/Radio spectrum is one area where I do think some regulation is a good thing---to avoid the tragedy of the commons. On the other hand, I'm I firm believer that the general increase of regulations is one driver of consolation across a number of industries. e.g. It requires a lawyer (or team of lawyers) to navigate the regulatory landscape, and larger organizations are better able to bear those costs. The 1996 TCA was advertised as a way to increase competition, and it some ways it helped---internet and cellphone advances for example. But that expansion also led to less consumption of traditional media, which drove consolidation as some media companies became unprofitable---particularly in smaller markets.

As in so many areas of life, it's difficult at times to find the proper balance.

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Yes , but who understood that would be the result ?

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2010 Citizens United officially sealed the deal.

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I am not sure it didn’t happen in 2008;under Obama ….the health care act was so unknown for details ….even after it passed …. The era of thousand page acts which no one could comprehend …. A disaster for citizens…activists….

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We’ve been following Swiss Policy Research for years (used be Swiss Propaganda Research) Great charts and info https://swprs.org/the-propaganda-multiplier/

Helped us understand early Covid narratives.

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Actually--the "news" has been "funneled" much longer than even 76 years ago. This has been the case since the beginning of the 20 th century. Perhaps we should revert to the "town crier" method of yore!!

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The good thing is that people now grab those for the Twitter-bots and post how many different people "say" the same exact thing ... word for word.

But I do appreciate those super-cuts of the media talking heads doing it. Always interesting to see how the local news all across the country uses the exact same phrases.

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Since they are at the end of the day owned by the same conglomerates, not surprising. Agree it is fun to watch.

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Louise, thanks for reminding us of the great Rush Limbaugh. He was definitely the Bellwether of communication and news. His passing left a huge void in our world.

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I loved Rush Limbaugh and listened to him from 1988 until he passed away. There is no one even close to Rush in his steady conservative commentary and he is dearly missed. He was a brilliant thinker.

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and caustically funny to listen too!

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So conspiracy-theorist of me but wow, the timing of his passing could hardly have been worse.

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I miss Rush Limbaugh!

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Me too. Clay and Buck are ok (Clay gets on my nerves) but they're not in the same universe as Rush.

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Mar 15, 2023·edited Mar 15, 2023

AM…my husband was a huge Rush fan. He calls Clay and Buck, Dumb and Dumber. 😂 And almost daily makes the comment that NOBODY comes close to Rush. As you said - not even in the same universe.

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Not even in same galaxy!

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

George Washington: Government is not reason; it is not eloquent; it is force. Like fire, it is a dangerous servant and a fearful master. Experience has taught us that it is much easier to prevent an enemy from posting themselves than it is to dislodge them after they have got possession, and when the freedom of speech is taken away then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter.

There were no formal Bolsheviks in Washington's day yet he very clearly explains why the very first sign of tyranny is the "burning of the books" and the censorship and persecution of free speech. Having allowed Communism (the Bolsheviks) to take over the Gov't of the United States, it is going to be very difficult indeed to eject the Bolsheviks from power - perhaps too difficult.

Thanks to GenEarly and the Mom from Tennessee...

https://kwnorton.substack.com/p/modern-totalitarianism-2023-style?r=3ux2x&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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Mar 15, 2023·edited Mar 15, 2023

This reminds me of the chilling prediction of Nikita Khrushchev that America would be conquered by Communism without firing a shot.

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that has already happened at the university and education level, especially the tenured ones

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We'll know our disinformation campaign will be complete when everything the American public believes is false. - William Casey, CIA Director 1981

Seems like it's complete, but there will always be outliers.

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Nice quote, thank you!

It seems that most of us have become consumers of outlier news. I think of it in terms of underground news, and often tell people that you can’t believe anything from MSM, which includes online sources. We were just discussing this morning how deceptive the big G is. Haven’t we been conditioned to look up everything online? The days of having Encyclopedia Brittanica or World Book on your shelves are gone. And what you find online is so untrustworthy that you should almost reject out of hand everything it says. The most egregious are Google, Wikipedia (owned by Google?) and WebMD.

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Someone posted somewhere years ago, about the time of Rush Limbaugh's revelation, that they were all taking their daily orders from one of the alphabet agencies. Fact or rumor, unknown.

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Here's one such clip: https://youtu.be/oMO6Ic00or4?t=12

Rush talks about the more recent "dangerous to our democracy" talking point and then brings us back to 2000 when news networks talked about W. Bush's lack of "gravitas"

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Operation Mockingbird still in play.

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Mar 15, 2023·edited Mar 15, 2023

El Rushbo, I miss that man... Talent on loan from God.

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Operation Mockingbird ( CIA operatives media infiltration) never ended. It’s been going on since the 1950’s.

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Mar 16, 2023·edited Mar 16, 2023

Yet another good example of coordinated media talking points: https://youtu.be/_fHfgU8oMSo

This was posted PRE-COVID!! Apr 2, 2018 in fact.

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DESPICABLE and SCARY at the same time. I have not listened to "broadcast news" since the cessation of the "Huntley/Brinkley Report"--remember those glorious days when you actually got a bit of "true journalism"!

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Who needs AI and bots?? very well done example of mockingbird media!

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I remember him doing that about things they said about GW Bush in the early 2000s!

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Daniel said,

“Let the name of God be blessed forever and ever,

For wisdom and power belong to Him.

It is He who changes the times and the epochs;

He removes kings and establishes kings;

He gives wisdom to wise men

And knowledge to men of understanding.

It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things;

He knows what is in the darkness,

And the light dwells with Him.”

— Daniel 2:20-22 NASB1995

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Daniel 2:22 one of my favorites! “He knows what is in the darkness, and the light dwells with Him.” Thanks, Janice!

Also John 1:5 “The light shines in the darkness and the darkness has not overcome it.”

Praise the Lord!🙏🏻🙌🏼✝️

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Amen! So thankful He is light and life.

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I went down a rabbit trail and landed upon this passage. Well worth the trip. :D

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

He who sits in the heavens shall laugh

The Lord shall hold them in derision

Then He shall speak to them in His wrath

And distress them in His deep displeasure.

Psalm 2. NKJV.

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And that is what we should together pray for when gathered in worship. Ask and ye shall receive.

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Yes! Even in good churches there is not this sort of prayer and public petition! It's all "let's set our burdens down and worship the Lord."

Well, some burdens aren't meant to be "set aside" but to be hefted onto the shoulders of our God, with loud and earnest prayers of lament rather than song.

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In terms of maturity, the Western church has regressed to that of a spoiled child with no wisdom. I can't speak for the Eastern church which has already seen much persecution.

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Praise God we have a Solid Rock to stand on and the Eternal Word to guide us!

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Interesting how over the ages kings have tried to usurp God's power. Of course they are dead and God is.

Christians should remember the part about God establishing and removing Kings. "good" and "bad". They will ultimately accomplish His own purpose. So we should toss aside the torn robes and heaping ashes and just get on with what we are here for - happy in the knowing He is in charge and the controller of all things. He KNOWS what is in the darkness - but is NOT the darkness, He is the light! Makes me happy to think of it. Pray for our rulers. Try not to be nasty. Haha. It's a struggle.

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I used to be among a group of former members of our church on FB. One started to disparage Trump continually, it was as if she was reading the headlines from MSM. I would comment that we should be praying for our leaders, especially when we didn'teven try to look for good in any of them... She replied that she needed to get better at it and she stopped for a bit. Then Covid happened. Here I was in the south while the majority were further north... She posted a lie straight off of MSM about how wonderful the Governor of NY was doing handling elderly covid patients... I sent her a list of exactly what he was actually doing, part of which included sending the elderly with covid to nursing homes where they infected others...and they were all dying... She was stunned!

"We're in upstate NY and we aren't hearing about this! Oh my God! How could he!"

I filled her in on what Trump was doing...sending help via the hospital ship and Nat Guard to set up hospitals for patients. She was sickened at how little of truthful news they were getting. But less than a week later she posted a NYT "report" totally against all of the positive moves Trump was making to help NY. I felt crushed at how quickly she had turned around! I dropped out of the group. They immediately blocked me from contacting any of them....but enough was enough... It was beginning to border on insanity!

God does tell us to pray for our leaders!

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So politics over God for the FB group. Oh the state of affairs of our American church (those that are Christian). In my WBS we start out every session telling people to keep politics out, but inevitably the lady that puts the note out about no politics (who is also one of the leaders of the group) will not shut her mouth about politics. I agree with her and it still pisses me off. We come together to worship and fellowship. I imagine you must feel similarly. It is so hard to find godly people to hang around with. In my state it is because the vast majority are either Mormon or CA/CO liberals who have no use for God or a savior since they don't believe in the concept of sin or evil.

You will find a group of women who love God and who are also seeking Christian fellowship. Try praying about it and then start having a look around. I only have a handful of lady friends who are Bible believing Christians and really only one who I trust to rightly divide God's word and to smack me around when I go sideways! It took me a while to find her. I will keep you in my prayers. Meanwhile, brush your shoes of dust and move on from those women. Glad you wrote me a comment.

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I'm in a wonderful women's Bible study at church and our teacher has told us we aren't going to discuss politics, unless it's in or from the Bible. We are all of similar mind when it comes to politics nothing has come up lately.

I remember before leaving that FB group that most were buying into what was being spread via MSM and there was a heated discussion about how we as Christians should pray before casting our votes. One said she was voting for Biden because she didn't like the "mean tweets..." I asked her how she could argue for Prolife and vote the opposite. Her exact words were, "I'll work from the inside." I can't reach her now, but I'd surely like to know how that has been going... Meanwhile, I pray for them. Most are college profs, a hard position to be in as a Christian these days. I believe it showed me how quickly some Christians have been, to water down their faith when they're surrounded by opposing views...

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That is terrific news because good Bible studies are hard to come by IMO.

I wonder how that lady is doing with her work from the inside. I used to say something similar when I was full of self delusion.. er... not at all wanting to give up the world and follow Christ. Someone was probably talking to Christ about me too. Bless that person.

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Yes...and to pray for our enemies (who are oftimes also our "leaders").

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Nebuchadnezzar would say AMEN.

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Or he would have whinnied and scraped his right hoof in agreement. Depending on when you caught him for a comment.

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🤣🤣🤣

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I was just thinking about King Nebuchadnezzar and "the handwriting on the wall" (and that saying is STILL being used thousands of years later. THE WORD IS ETERNAL!

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Belshazzar (Nebuchadnezzar's kid - so it didn't take long!). When I first read the interpretation of what the hand wrote on the wall the second word struck me. It is something like God has set you on a scale and found you lacking. Gulp. There is a verse in the NT , well all over the place there are these verses but it says something like the fire will try every man's work to show what sort it is. (like good works remain and the dross gets burned up). Gulp. I don't want God to look at me and find me lacking!

Anyway, I think the hand is getting his pencil sharpened for America. BUT we can still go to Him with prayers for revival. I thought we made a small turn a few years ago and we certainly did when we made a good stride against abortion so there is hope. There is always hope, until he writes and you don't see an eraser at the tip.

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Love your metaphor about the "eraser", Raptor. Actually....the fountain of Christ's shed blood OBLITERATES all our SINS and SHORTCOMINGS....that beautiful, old Christian hymn, "There's Power in the Blood"--remember that one?

I appreciate so many of my fellow C & C'ers comments since I started commenting myself. I was a "troll" for 18 months--but NO MORE. Participating in the exchange of encouragements and exhortations with fellow believers is SO CRUCIAL to keep us "occupying" and "shining" until our Lord Jesus Christ descends from Glory and shouts, "COME UP HITHER" to His "bride".

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Praise God we have a Solid Rock to stand on and the Eternal Word to guide us!

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And He lights our path in life..one footstep at a time!! As always, a big "MUCHOS GRACIAS", Janice for sharing Scripture with us.

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

Well, the biggest outrage of the day should be that NY's governor is appealing to allow concentration camps in the state. Of course, we won't see that in the mainstream news or if it _does_ leak out, I'm sure it will be well-spun. But man - the idea that a last minute appeal to have the rights to forcibly detain people for "medical" reasons after the last two years should be of concern to just about everyone.

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Peter Schott, right you are, it is an outrage.

Relatedly:

Q & A WITH BOBBIE ANNE COX, THE NY ATTORNEY WHO STRUCK DOWN GOVERNOR HOCHUL'S QUARANTINE CAMPS REGULATION

Episode #54 Beating Covid in the Courts

https://rumble.com/v1re2si-full-episode-54-beating-covid-in-the-courts.html

Nov 4, 2022

TRANSCRIPT OF EXCERPT

30:25

BOBBIE ANNE COX: My case is the entire state of New York, and it's, um, I struck down the quarantine camp regulation that [Governor] Kathy Hochul, her Department of Heath had issued where they could force New Yorkers to either lockdown in their homes or remove them from their homes and lock them up in facilities. I mean, quarantine detention centers, quarantine camps, whatever noun you want to use.

STEVE KIRSCH: At their sole discretion and decision.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Yes.

STEVE KIRSCH: Of course.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: For however long they wanted, that there was no restriction in that regulation, so they could have literally locked New Yorkers up or locked them down for days, weeks, months.

STEVE KIRSCH: Years?

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Yeah. There was no restriction whatsoever.

STEVE KIRSCH: And the rationale could be pretty much anything, right? They could just do it to misinformation spreaders like myself. So if I lived in New York they could haul me away to a quarantine camp. Would they be able to cut off my Internet, too?

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Absolutely. So the regulation was very, it gave them unbelievable, unfettered power. And it said that the Department of Health could tell you what you could and couldn't do while you were in quarantine, which means, yeah, they could have

taken your cell phone, they could have cut off your Internet access, they could have told you what you could eat or couldn't eat or what medications you could take or couldn't take or had to take. It was very broad power that they gave themselves. And there was no age restriction. So they could have taken you, but they also could have taken your child or your grandchild or your elderly parent. And there was no way to get out of quarantine once they put you in. So I mean, what I mean by that is, you know, we were having oral arguments in front of the judge, and the judge asked the Attorney General's Office, listen, let's say you take a family and you put them into a quarantine facility or a hospital, you know, how do they get out? And the Assistant Attorney General just, you know, said, well, I guess they could hire a lawyer and sue. You know, I mean—

STEVE KIRSCH: Might take four or five years, maybe.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: I mean, no due process.

STEVE KIRSCH: Cost a few million dollars, maybe.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Yep. Absolutely.

STEVE KIRSCH: At least they could get out.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: [laughs]

STEVE KIRSCH: Assuming that they win.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Assuming they win their case, right. Right. So it was horrific, I mean, it was complete, you know, authoritarian rule that you know Kathy Hochul and her Department of Health, they literally gave themselves the power. They went around the legislature, this did not go through the New York State Senate or the New York State Assembly. In fact there was a bill that was proposed in the Assembly here in New York for like seven years which was very similar to the regulation, it was a very scary proposed law. But it had no support whatsoever. It literally had not one other New York State Assembly member or New York State Senator that would back it, so the bill went nowhere. Eventually, Nick Perry the assemblyman from New York City who had proposed that bill, eventually he withdrew it. It had zero support.

So what did the Governor do? They changed the language a little bit, they pushed it through the Department of Health, and they made it a regulation. So it was completely unconstitutional. The governor and the Department of Health do not have the power to make law. That is a power that is reserved for the legislature. That's very clear separation of powers in both the United States Constitution, also in the New York State Constitution. Very clear, separation of powers means we have three branches of government, each one stands on its own, they're supposed to be co-equal, and one branch can't go and take the power from the others because then that's tyranny. I mean, that's, you know, the people are the ones who suffer when there is tyranny. So all three branches have to stay in their own lane. But here, I mean, the governor and the Department of Health and the executive branch, supposed to be enforcing the laws that made by the legislature, here they made a law, you know, which they had no authority to do.

So thankfully the judge, New York State Supreme Court Judge Ron Ploetz he struck it down, he said it's unconstitutional, the governor doesn't have the power, the Department of Health doesn't have the power.And he said it's null, it's void, it cannot be enforced. But you know, Kathy Hochul filed a notice of appeal. They want to get the power back. You know, they haven't moved forward with the appeal probably because it's election day coming up next week and they just don't want New York voters to know they want to get this

horrific power back, which is completely unconstitutional, and use tax dollars to fight the appeal. So they haven't actually moved forward with the appeal yet. But you know, we'll see what the election holds next week because if Leticia James, she's running for Attorney General, she wants another four years, if she wins or if Kathy Hochul wins and she's our governor for another four years, you know I'm sure they're going to push forward with this appeal and try and get the power back, ry and overturn the judge's decision, so they can have forced isolation and quarantine facilities in New York State. It's unbelievable. I mean, it's so anti-American.

... continued...

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

nominate bobbie ann cox for a multiplier

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... continued...

STEVE KIRSCH: But what happens in the meantime? Are they allowed to do this, like, in the meantime, or, is, did the judge state regulation. Which way is it going?

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Right, so the judge struck down the regulation. So it no longer exists, it is not enforceable.

STEVE KIRSCH: But before he did that, what was the, what would happen if, like, could they have put you in these quarantine camps?

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Oh, for sure. For sure. The regulation had no requirement that they prove that you were sick.

STEVE KIRSCH: Wouldn't it be great if we controlled the governor's office in New York and then we invited Anthony Fauci to give a talk, and then we said, eh, we're going to quarantine you. Forever.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: [laughs] Well, that's what the regulation let them do, right? The regulation—

STEVE KIRSCH: This could be used the other way. I mean, if, if, assuming it was constitutional. Look, even the New York legislature shouldn't have the power to take a citizen and put them in quarantine for an undetermined amount of time. That seems like that would be unconstitutional no mater how you look at it. That no state legislature, Congress can't do it, nobody can do that. Is that right? Unless you rewrote, amended the constitution, essentially. Is that correct?

BOBBIE ANNE COX: Right. So you know we do have a law in New York State, as many states do, which does allow the government to isolate somebody if they are a public health threat. However, that law, which we've had for 70 years here in New York, that law does have a number of due process protections built into it, so that the government can't abuse its power, right? So the number one thing that that law says is you have to prove the person actually has the communicable disease that you think they have. You can't just suspect, well, maybe you were exposed, maybe you weren't, I don't know, but I'm going to issue you an isolation or quarantine order. No. The law is very clear. Step one, the person has to actually be sick. And that law has many other due process protections built in. But another main one there is that it's not that the judge finds that you are harboring a disease, the judge has to find that you are being a nuisance and you are not acting in a manner to protect other people from getting your disease. Right? So they have to have an investigation, according to the law, they have to have an investigation, you have a right to an attorney, there has to be a hearing before a judge, the judge has to issue the decision.

In this regulation, you know, Hochul comes along with her Department of Health and says, well, forget that, we're not going to do that, we don't need to have due process, we're going to pick and choose which New Yorkers we want to lock up or lockdown for as long as we want and we don't have to prove anything. We don't have to prove they're sick, we don't have to prove they were exposed, you know, we're just going to put— and we'll let you know when you can get out.

It was so anti-American, so unconstitutional. The judge struck it down. he said it's null and void. He barred them from enforcing them from enforcing it. So today, as of July 8, 2022, New Yorkers cannot be thrown in detention centers, whatever you want to call them by the Department of Health. They cannot, they no longer have that power. It's shameful that they want to appeal it. It really is shameful. And use tax dollars to do so. You know, clear breach of separation of powers. And clear that they want to completely get rid of our constitution and rewrite it so that they can do whatever they want whenever they to the citizens of New York.

The problem is that if this happens in New York, let's say Hochul wins on Tuesday, election, let's say Leticia James wins, now she's our Attorney General again, Hochul's our governor again and they move forward with the appeal, let's say it's overturned. If we have quarantine facilities in New York State as a new way to contain communicable diseases, that's going to spread across the country like wildfire. Every state's going to turn and say, wait a minute, if New York's allowed to force their citizens into quarantine with no proof and no due process, why don't we do that? Oh, of course we can do it, let's do it! Right? So it spreads, you know, the insanity will then spread across the country and then what do we have? Then we have the United States of America having forced isolation and quarantine facilities. I mean, it's just, it's absurd. It cannot stand. It just. [shakes head]

STEVE KIRSCH: Yeah, there's certainly been a lot of absurd things that have happened in this pandemic that I believe cannot stand. They've been standing for a lot longer than I ever expected. And the more I learn about what's going on and there are all sorts of atrocities that existed for decades and well-known and they're still being pulled off, you know, not to the extent of quarantining people without their consent, but, yeah.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: But I mean it's, you destroy lives, right? You see what the lockdowns did to people. You know. Imagine the government, unelected bureaucrats in the Health Department being allowed to tell people, you can't see your child, you can't go to work, you have to be locked up in this facility until we tell you that you can get out. There was no way to negotiate your way out. You couldn't say, wait a second, hang on a second, I don't have tuberculosis. I'll take a test. You know, I'll prove to you I don't have tuberculosis, or monkey ox. There was a whole long list of diseases that would fall under this regulation. It wasn't just covid 19. You know, tuberculosis, polio, money pox, toxic shock syndrome, I'm not exactly sure how that's communicable. But, you know, Lyme disease. They were really putting anything they wanted on this list and—

STEVE KIRSCH: Quarantining for Lyme disease! Wow.

BOBBIE ANNE COX: That was on the list.

STEVE KIRSCH: Wow.

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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:

See

"Court Strikes Down 'Quarantine Camp' Regulation in New York by Bobbie Anne Cox, Brownstone Institute, August 25, 2022

https://brownstone.org/articles/court-strikes-down-quarantine-camp-regulation-in-new-york-state/

Bobbie Anne Cox blogs at

https://attorneycox.substack.com

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Ugh NY is such a mess 😕

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Give it a year or so and this power could be transferred to the WHO as it tries to take control of public health worldwide.

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Mar 15, 2023Liked by Jeff Childers

Oh my goodness. I cannot believe they waited to almost the very last minute to actually file the appeal. Bobbie Anne Cox spoke at a local Rochester conference on Saturday and at that point, I think the State had about 80 hours remaining on the clock to file. Unbelievable. Kathy Hochul is a sociopath - I just don't know what else explains her actions. She will ruin what is left of the state I love (and I DO love it. I don't want to leave it, but she may force us from our home, the place in which my husband and I grew up, the place we raised our 5 kids and the place we had hoped to create a refuge for our family for the long haul).

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That insane woman should be isolated in a concentration camp. Horrible person.

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Have they stated where they will be? I asked because I lived in the poorest County in NYS. I figure they will put them there!! This is the first I’ve heard of it! This is so sickening!! Why won’t anyone stand up to this crap. I’d be outside the Governor’s office!!! I think most of the sleeping people are the age group that could do these kinds of gatherings. I’m too old to do that! But I do call and I will call for this several times! They are turning the unvaxxed people into prisoners is what they are doing, don’t you think?

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Cite the article please

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Assuming that was addressed to me. Quick search was easy enough to do:

https://www.ntd.com/gov-hochul-appeals-quarantine-camp-ruling-attorney-says-floodgates-will-open-if-its-overturned_907370.html

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I watched the video. There HAS to be a special place in hell for Hochul and those pushing so hard for this. If Hochul is successful with this appeal, every New Yorker needs to flee the state.

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I think I saw horns on her head.

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Thank you!

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🎯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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The other day, we were talking to our 3rd son and remarking about why there are rarely any bank robberies these days. It seems to me that they still happened occasionally when I was a girl. But we’ve seen no news of “hold ups” in banks for a long time. We agreed, during our conversation, that this is because surveillance and other safeties against armed robberies are such that the risk of getting caught is extremely high.

Then it occurred to me, as I ruminated over this latest banking debacle, that we DO still have bank robberies nowadays. They might not be in-your-face armed robberies, no...they’re far easier (and safer) than that. SVB was, essentially, just robbed (meaning depositors were robbed) by their own executives and board members!

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I think it depends where you live. Colorado and Washington State have lots of bank robberies. Even recently! Dec 29, 2022 Banner bank downtown Spokane robbed, then 5 days later a washington trust bank robbed. That was first thing I noticed when I moved here. There is a shocking number of bank robberies, coffee stand robberies, and pedestrian-vehicle collisions.

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Washington and Colorado, beautiful states but you couldn't pay me enough to live there. Seattle, yuck. The whole front range of Colorado, yuck. Nothing but blue goo.

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I agree. I used to LOVE visiting CO, CA, OR, WA. Now? Not so much. They’re still beautiful, if you avoid their big cities and suburbs, but even many of the more rural people are tainted by the progressive ideology. Granted, most aren’t AS militant, but still... Why must politics and victim mindset be inserted into absolutely everything?

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Haha really??? Do the robbers get caught swiftly?

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Yes. Typically. It may take a few days, but they typically are arrested.

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Well, at least there’s that!

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The FBI bank robbery arrest rate is very good, going off memory it's like near 100%.

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Bivalents for babies. Whew. As you say, "It’s really too bad that we let go of the whole tarring and feathering thing."

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Oh my! After reading this piece I wanted to do something far more punitive than tar and feathers. These FDA people are simply wicked.

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"Babies — the last group denied access to the safe and effective wonder drugs — have been loudly clamoring for the vaccine and now their wait is over." Jeff has a great sense of humor. However, this is Child Abuse, plain and simple. Tarring and feathering is to mild a punishment!

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If you have an iphone and updated recently you need to go to Settings, Battery and toggle OFF for the option that is now automatic for "charge phone slower if it is not a climate change friendly/sustainable charging option". mine started taking forever to charge also and this was the reason

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Sheesh. Do Tesla owners get the same message, when they plug their Virtue-Mobiles into the parking lot outlet at Whole Foods?

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EV owners are really in for a surprise when they start extracting charge from their plugged in cars to put back on the grid in times of high demand.

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Virtue Mobiles 🤣😆

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Yes! 😂

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Thank you. ✅ DONE! Mine had some blather about reducing my carbon footprint 😂😂 by charging when “clean energy” is available. Don’t know where you’d find that in South Dakota so it must mean the plethora of wind turbines just across the border in Commie-Minnesota.

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Can someone jailbreak it so that it only charges when there's NOT "green" power? Then troll your hippie relatives with it... 😈

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Eventually we won't be able to toggle it off...need to find a better phone option soon

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How does the phone know where the electricity is coming from by plugging into a wall outlet?

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My guess is that it’s time of day and region that tell the phone how to charge.

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My phone still has a rotary dial - I wonder if it knows where its juice is coming from???

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Rotary dial? YOU WIN, hands down!!

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I remember going to Diddny-land back in the 70's and Motorola had a big science-y displace with the new touch-tone "dials". You could dial your # on a rotary and have it timed and then dial the same number on the touch-tone to show you how fast these new phones were going to be! Pretty crazy!

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Done, thank goodness for commenters - mine would most likely be on slow permanently here in CA!

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I'm trying to get off all the big tech. Still clinging to an iPhone8+. No iTunes or cloud services tho. Thanks for the tip.

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I have an iphone 10 amd never update it. We also dont use cloud services or alexa.

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I keep not updating mine either. Especially not when the feds warn us we must. I'll take my chances.

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I still use a I phone 7, and that isn't an option yet.

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I'm still on my iPhone 6s, and OS 12. Still runs just fine, and no covid app installed

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Mine is still iPhone 7 as well (without that battery charging option.) Also, I do NOT update ever.

When this iPhone dies, I’m switching to another brand… but which one? Any suggestions out there?

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I'm going to buy a Pixel 6 phone, wipe the operating system and reinstall an open source os, probably Graphene.

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Ah, we had an iphone and ipad both recently stopped charging, and I bet that's why. The ipad then randomly started again, with no obvious reason. (As a side note, I did find that if you plug it into the wall, and then power it off completely from the "settings -> general" menu, it WILL charge while it's switched off. But of course you can't use it or get calls during the process... also, plug it in BEFORE turning it off, or else it will turn itself back on when you plug it in.)

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Thank you! I checked out when they added the pregnant man emoji .. 🫃🫃🫃🫃🫃

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I went to settings and Battery, updates are current, and I didn’t find that option. (I have an old iphone).

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Thanks for this tip! I was wondering why my Lightning charger was not doing it's lightning job. Appreciate your post.

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Thanks! I just turned my off!

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IFR (Infection Fatality Rate) in children is estimated at 0.002%. That is 2 One Thousandths of One percent chance of dying from Covid.

Covid is not and never was a deadly rampaging killing machine mowing down all in its path.

Its less than the flu

There was no pandemic

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(21)02867-1/fulltext

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Meanwhile back in real life ppl who do have emergency needs can't be seen because 600 on the waiting list or must get more therapy first, get insurance approval, get COVID tested miles away during a blizzard, and please don't need a blood donation!! 😡

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I expect they have a better chance of dying from the vaccine or being seriously injured. It is evil that the FDA approved it. They have made money their god.

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Jeff, when are you coming home? This waiting for C&C is for the birds!!

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Hahaha I just taught my 6yo to say "Disneyland is for the birds!"

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😂

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Since you brought up Mike Pence, this post captures mind-blowing legal details regarding the progression of J6 events, with serious implications regarding the role of Pence:

https://www.theburningplatform.com/2023/03/13/this-was-a-coup-it-was-a-very-organized-and-carefully-planned-coup/

C&C Army, I need your help sharing the tragic story of the brilliant and gentle biologist Clemens Arvay, who committed suicide after being relentlessly slandered by the media and Wikipedia for speaking out against COVID lies over the past three years.

Most importantly, I have been asked to share a letter written by Jews around the world condemning the weaponization of “anti-semite” to smear dissidents. This was one of the baseless accusations leveled against Clemens that hurt him deeply. Please share to help us prevent more senseless tragedies from occurring:

• “Requiem for a Smear Victim: Clemens Arvay” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/requiem-for-a-smear-victim-clemens)

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THANK YOU. I was going to ask about Pence. I liked him at first thinking he was a quiet and strong man and about half way through presidency did not trust him! SMH

wondered what dirt is on him

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Pence claims to be a Christian, and perhaps he is, but I'm disappointed in him and even more so, with Francis Collins, who also claims to follow Christ. Honestly, I've been disappointed in many who call themselves Christians, but have been, and in some cases still are, so thoroughly deceived by this whole covid/vaccine agenda.

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Oh, I don't know what Collins means when he says he is a Christian. The man thinks abortion is dandy.

Unfortunately the Christian Medical and Dental Associations, a group of evangelical Christian physicians, bought his drivel hook, line, and sinker as far as the Shots. I heard their bioethicist say, when asked very early on about safety in pregnant women, "Francis Collins says they're safe, and I trust Francis Collins." Asinine. The things hadn't even been fully studied for entire pregnancies, or outcomes in babies whose moms were injected while pregnant. When in human history did we ever do this and have it turn out well?!

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Yes- Francis Collins, I have sent comments to two outspoken Christian commentators regarding their inclusion of FC as an example of true moral leadership. One referred to him as a model Christian and the other stating FC actions proves “that Christians can be smart!” My return asked, “but are they wise?”

Father guide our every action and give us your wisdom, not that of the world.

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I’ve never understood why a Christian would take the shot. It is not a vaccine. It changes your DNA... God does not make mistake so why would anyone allow something to change their very being.

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Oh you forgot all the virtue signaling. Do it for your neighbor. Don’t be selfsih. Its what J would do! 😱😩

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Lisa, I haven't forgotten! Franklin Graham said that and he ended up in the hospital with heart problems. Our denomination's mission organization required that all missionaries and their children over 16 years old be jabbed. I was so upset that I wrote to them and expressed my concern. Their reply indicated they had relied on wisdom from doctors (stupid doctors). We normally give very generously to support missions, and have done mission work ourselves, but gave only a minimal amount that year. I know one family for whom this requirement was the last straw, leading them to partner with a different organization. We just learned this week that close friends are leaving their ministry in Central America because the young wife and mother is so severely injured from a booster shot she took last May. One of our elders shared info about her injury in his Bible study class, but assured people such injuries are rare. I offered Peter McCullough's book to him, but he declined, saying it was divisive and he didn't want to get involved, but he didn't mind getting involved by urging his class to get the booster! I have lost respect for many Christian leaders. They're like those in the German church who remained silent while the Jews were being killed. Eric Metaxas speaks to that in his book, Letter to the American Church.

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While it would have been nice if our church stood up, I am just super thankful they were not pushing people to get shot up and thankful they stayed out of it and didn’t guilt trip people. Also, about a year in (I think when they could see the charade) we opened up our doors with optional masking and they said we would never be back outside. Thankful.

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They believed the lie that it didn't.

They were afraid. How many Christian churches did you hear calling people to "Fear not?" Certainly not mine. Was I afraid at first? Well, yes, especially when my family member was diagnosed that fall with a health condition putting him at greater risk. Did I also wonder what God might have to say about courage and fear in times like these, and how had the Church responded during previous {real} pandemics? Yes. Did ever I see anyone talking about this? No.

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yes I remember that.

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I’ve heard he has had an issue with sexual immorality. He definitely lacks courage, righteousness and loyalty. I’m grateful that Margaret Anna Alice provided information on the J6 coup. And I’ll never forget the sight of Pence fist bumping Pelosi after the fraudulent election was illegitimately certified. That told me all I needed to know.

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Yes to that!

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This was truly the best explanation I’ve heard of all that happened on J6 and how the key players were complicit in this coup. (Pelosi, Schumer, Pence and McConnell). Pence presents himself as this pious Christian but he’s a hypocrite and every bit of a snake as Pelosi and Schumer and McConnell. He is and has been part of the swamp and he helped the Deep State in their plans to derail President Trump from the beginning. I can’t wait for this information to get in the hands of mainstream Americans. I’ll do my part in forwarding the information. Thank you so much for sharing!

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I read about him a couple of weeks ago, and even posted about his death on Facebook. I was not aware of him before that, but was so saddened, and angered, by what drove him to take his life. Thank you for bringing this tragedy to our attention.

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Thank you so much for sharing his story, Anne. The more time I spent getting to know Clemens while writing this piece, the more heartbroken I felt at his senseless loss.

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That Regitiger piece is really something. Thanks for sharing it; I had meant to the other day and got distracted.

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Is it possible this wasn't suicide?

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Anything's possible, I guess, but what I've read and what was posted here seems to indicate that it was. I'm just an ordinary grandmother who declined to be vaccinated and has spoken out as often as I can. When I think about my small level of persecution and how painful it has been, I can readily see how someone of his stature might not be able to withstand the horrendous treatment from these evil people. We need to pray for, and support, those other heroes we are aware of who are trying to share truth and help humanity. My faith in Christ provides the strength I need. Without that, I would be in total despair as I watch the ongoing genocide.

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Anne, I don't know you from Adam's house cat but I'd say you are not "just and ordinary grandmother..." My best to you and yours.

Later Jay

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You are very kind. God bless you also.

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One of the signatories on the letter whom I worked with closely while gathering details for the story had similar suspicions at the outset, but the more we learned, the clearer it became it was likely suicide. There was a note found in his backpack that could be interpreted as a suicide note, and he was clearly tormented by the media/Wikipedia slanders and becoming increasingly desperate.

I did write the story in such a way that I didn’t conclusively indicate it was suicide in case there is the possibility of foul play, but I think all of the evidence strongly indicates it was.

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Hat Tip: Lara Logan on Twitter. US out of Ukraine NOW!!Anyone still dumb enough to think that Ukraine is still worth our money and time while our banking system melts down and our infrastructure falls apart? This is what our tax dollars are funding. Racist Nazi trash. https://twitter.com/laralogan/status/1635879632326254596?s=46&t=Pc3e4hhthce1uQ6PjUUekg

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The entire political climate is to get rid of small businesses and obliterate the middle class. If people are able to make their living w/o govt interference, then they can’t be as easily controlled. They want poor slaves that live off the crumbs of govt assistance.

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In the spirit of yesterday's news about Naomi Wolfe's apology to conservatives, I want to make my own. I didn't fall for the media's story about Jan 6 but I held a lot of beliefs about conservatives that I have learned in the last few years are categorically false. Mostly along the lines of "conservatives are mean and selfish". I have been intrigued with the MAGA movement and although I have some differences of opinion, I have promised myself to always learn where conservatives are coming from before judging you all. Seeing the left go so insane has made me question a lot of things and as of now I am proud to fight the Deep State alongside my MAGA brothers and sisters. I'll be Legolas (I am still a tree-hugger) if you all will be Gimley, we will defeat the Dark Lord together!!! With God's help of course.

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Mar 15, 2023·edited Mar 15, 2023

I appreciate that. I have a huge amount of respect for people who are able to see things from a different viewpoint and who are able to change their minds based on evidence. Kudos to you for being truly open minded!

Re: the conservatives are mean and selfish idea. For me, conservatives are happy to help their fellow man in need, but they don’t think the government is the most effective or appropriate way to do this. And conservatives hate enabling people who just want to sponge off everyone else. But they will go the extra mile for people who are working hard and trying to do their best during hard times. Personally, I think that government programs are the least efficient, most wasteful and most easily abused methods for helping to solve societal problems. I also think they contribute to perpetuating the problems because the people who run them don’t want to lose their jobs or their funding, if the problems they are supposed to be solving disappear.

I am very ready to fight evil by your side!

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That's probably one things that makes me lean liberal. I scored 99% on open-mindedness on Jordan Peterson's Big 5 personality test. And this makes it very hard for me to easily fit in with conservatives. Creativity and learning new things are as necessary as air for me to live. Although the political poles are shifting so much that I now feel I fit in best with a coalition of disaffected liberals and conservatives who are exploring deep things. Always been a hippy redneck type and strongly supported 2A. I understand the conservative perspective on government being a terrible way to help folks especially now seeing how that "help" will most likely be tied to unwanted medical procedures or social credit scores etc. Hard to see a path from here to there though.

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Oh I don’t know, I think a lot of conservatives are open minded too. I don’t think all conservatives fit that stereotype of being unwilling to listen to other viewpoints and unable to consider that people might disagree with them or think differently. For me, conservatism is more about personal responsibility and limited government, as well as gradual change rather than sudden or revolutionary change, than closed mindedness. At least that has been my experience with the vast majority of conservatives I’ve had interactions with. I know they aren’t portrayed that way in the media and popular culture, but that’s been my experience.

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Just have this idea because Jordan Peterson researched personality type by political party and found liberals scored higher on average in open mindedness and agreeableness and conservatives higher in consciousness. Like all other traits that are different between groups based on averages there are loads of exceptions.

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I understand. I respect Jordan Peterson immensely, but I wonder what that test was based on, I would like to see what his definition of open mindedness was too. It would be interesting to analyze. Thanks for this clarification of your previous comment 🙂

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It’s based on the big 5 personality trait research which is the most studied personality metrics. So not his definition.

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Agree with you. My experience too. I also believe that in

“Give a man a fish, you feed them for a day.

Teach a man to fish, you feed them for a lifetime.”

We need to do better with the educational system. The fastest way out of poverty is education... it is a gift that keeps on giving.

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Which is why those in power are trying so hard to completely obliterate the learning and learning environment. They want an appearance of learning without actually teaching skill and thinking. Tragic state of affairs in so many areas.

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Weird experience when without my consent, my eyes left the section I was reading and ran up to the "comment denominator" and said, hey you missed this one! Strange moment.

But the shots for babies threw a giant wet blanket on my sense of humor. It's criminal. It's psychopathic. It's the worst of humanity foisting this known poison on the innocents. Millstones for the lot of them.

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I suggest media were coopted is when 60 Minutes and 20/20 stopped making government and corporate officials nervous.

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I’m going to make a book, suitable for proud display on coffee tables everywhere, of Jeff Childers asides. Today’s 🏆 goes to: “It’s really too bad that we let go of the whole tarring and feathering thing. I think that’s where things first started going off the rails.”

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I just learned (through Steve Bannon's War Room broadcast) that JAMES O'KEEFE has started a NEW BUSINESS VENTURE O'KEEFE MEDIA GROUP--and here's a link to the website. James is ALIVE, WELL AND SUPER CHARGED to get this new investigative reporting grouop off the ground. You will LOVE the "business model" - here's a link to the website--I hope to be one of his "roving, citizen journalists" very shortly! https://www.okeefemediagroup.com/

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I'm liking the abbreviation of the new business - OMG :)

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I picked up on that immediately, Peace--I'm smiling and nodding my head right now--LOL!

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Yay! Thanks for the info and link.

Maybe (even though C&C recently did one) we can do another multiplier and support his new venture.

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I was hoping Atty. Jeff would do just that, JC--we will see what he decides when he is back at "home base" in FL.

James O'Keefe is truly a warrior and I have supported his journalistic efforts for years. I am thrilled that he has broken away from P.V. (his creation) and I will NEVER donate to P.V. again!

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