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daverkb's avatar

The military are charged with upholding the Constitution for the United States which turn means upholding a constitutional law order, inclusive of Higher Law being God's Law upon which the American republics were founded.

So the primary distinction is between what is Law, and what is legal (which may be Lawful or not), and color of law which in not Law and problematically 'legal'.

In today's degraded and degenerate atmosphere by current 'habit and custom' law has become a thicket of chaotic legalisms. But in my book, and looking back to the original law habit and customs of the Americans, I would say that the entire military today is entirely rogue and color of law.

If I had been in the military, I would not have taken the shot. Sure, the consequences of refusal were overwhelming. But here's the thing. Once can recovery from very hard times but maybe no so from shattered health. And in retrospect, I suspect there are an awful lot of military folks who now wish that they had chosen the hard road by which to travel.

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rolandttg's avatar

I tried to tell our former son in law that, but he eventually caved when they threaten court martial. He was one of the last to succumb at Quantico's medical facilities.

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daverkb's avatar

The son-in-law would have had to say 'then do it'. Most people wouldn't or think that they can't. And unfortunately, almost everyone is not educated enough in Law to know what or even begin to know what their probable recourse might be. Once I had become vice-chair of the Constitution party then directed by the late Howard Phillips, and began to read law, I had no idea. I now believe, that with enough knowledge, one would have gone through the meat grinder but come out whole or close to on the 'other side'. The thing would be to know enough law so as to make 'them' begin to have pause at what one might do to 'them'. But what do I know?

Here's another similar case. In this interview, Jerome Corsi talks about his refusal to cave and 'cooperate' with the corrupt court as is related to efforts in knocking off Trump with regard to the Mueller witch hunt. Corsi had more guts than most people I have ever met. And I know that his wife was one hundred percent supporting of his position, an incredible woman. The whole interview is interesting.

https://rumble.com/v4nb9d9-there-is-now-scientific-proof-jfk-wasnt-assassinated-by-lee-harvey-oswald.html

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Fred's avatar

You’re forgetting that many did not know up front about the risks, especially when tptb called it a vaccine. Yes, many regret now, but the pressures were immense. A Court Martial is not an idle threat.

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daverkb's avatar

Yes, I understand this. And truly, one does not know what one will do until confronted with a situation. And age, experience and knowledge retention and skills make huge differences.

All I can tell you is that I knew in 2020 that 'the pandemic' was all a sham because I ran the mortality figures. And guess what? No rise in mortality. And this was before the Death Jabs.

I have always been bull headed, unyielding to bullies and tyrants. Even as a kid, I'd rather get bloodied and lose a fight rather than given in. I sometimes would terrify my mom as when I stood up to some seven men who tried to throw us off our land the time when we came to look at the building project progress (actually not progressing and that was the problem). They had done stuff like that before and were astonished that I could not be intimidated. My poor mom. Never ever saw her so upset. But that was not the end of the story. The thing when on to a legal action, and our lawyer told me to go and get some supoenas served. So I went into the Clerk of the Court office and said my piece and the lady said, "Oh, we can't do that." The Clerk of the Court comes out and it's the same song and dance. So I waltz up street to the library and the code books and waltz right on back. I recite title and section to the Clerk and say, "What are you going to do about it?" Awhile later I meet with the lawyer and he says, "That clerk! He doesn't want to mess with you." Well, I just don't like losing and bending to nonsense. Because once one goes down that avenue, there's no end to walking around on one's knees. And given that incontrovertible, incontestable fact, I have to say it makes me very sad that the guy caved into the military intimidation.

I still won't give into anything not right because if I do, I know that there would be nothing left to me. I simply refuse to live life as a shattered mirror. Given into these bastards and they keep coming. Sometimes it just got to be either/or. And no being a pussy and taking one's lumps ... no matter what.

But wait! Times change! I'm almost at the point where I don't have the stamina to fight back, especially physically save maybe a little scrape. So one eventually hits a wall. But at least I can look back and see a good record.

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M2's avatar

I knew it was a sham from the beginning too. While I admit that I considered complying because of a loss of a job that I just recently gotten and worked hard for, I'm happy to say that in the end I told them to take their job and shove it. I would not comply. Still proud of that today and definitely the right decision. No regrets.

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daverkb's avatar

Wow! Great! And thanks for sending!

I knew at the time, but it was so hard to believe. It all was like watching an End of World sci-fi flick ... what with the desolate streets devoid of human beings and the wild claims of bodies stacked like cord wood in hospital ... and then again, those videos of empty hospitals from California to New York. This was a whole Big, Big operation. Evil, Foul, Murderous ... stealing people's lives and livelihoods. TOTALLY F-ING INCREDIBLE.

Okay! Hard, hard ... so hard at the time. But boy! I bet you are sooo glad that you had the guts to refuse. What a giant decision. One of the greatest every you will have ever made in your whole life.

Thanks for writing. You make my day.

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