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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I suppose that under the persuasion of the bright lights and careful staging of a Hollywood production, sleazeballs like Kimmel possess some sort of magical influence to those dimwits that are easily starstruck - or perhaps more aptly, dumbfounded - but even a freshly squeezed dog deposit glistens in the midday sun. Not much to get worked up about.

Now, excuse me….I’m off to pull the plug on my electricity and purchase a horse and buggy. I'm suddenly in the mood for a good old fashioned barn raising and I'm not feeling the least bit hesistant about it. I might even take my new horsey out for a test spin on the backs of some vile ANTIFA roadblockers. I'm considering a Clydesdale for maximum "efficiency." Giddy up! Now there's some reality TV worth watching.

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Annie's avatar

I live near Lancaster County PA and during the scamdemic I shopped there as they didn't go into masking and lockdowns like chester county. The Amish asked me if the English, that's us, had gone nuts? I replied "Yes they did." It may be me but I get a subtle hint of "we were right and self satisfaction " from the Amish as a large part of their beliefs and lifestyle are right. 👍

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Doug Young's avatar

My brother-in-law, who also lives near another Amish region, asked one of their elders during that time if they were worried about COVID, and he replied, "No, we don't watch television".

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Ayn's avatar

Not watching TV could be the cure for SO MANY things, actually :-) [Are you suffering side effects from a Jimmy Kimmel monologue? Ask your doctor if NOT WATCHING TV is right for you.]

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Janet's avatar

I did that and was inoculated against the propoganda of fear. I lived outside basically, walking and took up outdoor painting. Made a new walking friend, slept better, felt better and had no idea what was going on outside my area. Most peaceful summer I ever had. The lunatic vax season was the worse. I was still attached to my alternative health community where the warnings really began. I feel another blackout coming. Try it. You’ll like it.

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nancylee's avatar

best bike riding ever. no traffic. only cats came out to watch me go by

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Janet's avatar

🤣🤣🤣. Cats are safer. They won’t run out and bark—attack the tires. But I live dogs too.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

the good news is that peeps ain't having it again

Much more likely to foment terrorist cells that are violent.

Fortunately we have the Second Amendment...

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Janet's avatar

I think so. I listened to a song on YouTube. One of the lyrics is “but don’t forget—our side has the guns” Search “ A Reckoning is Coming”. Southern blues.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I stopped watching TV decades ago. I have enjoyed a more peaceful existence since then.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

I confess to watching TV. The trick is to be discerning. I never watch late night TV because 1) it all stinks and 2) I can't stay up that late. Many who say they don't watch TV still spend inordinate amounts of time on the internet so they substitute one addiction for another. I have a brother who never watches TV but spends hours on Youtube.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

We stay away from what we disparagingly call the "lower channels"

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L Birdie Brown's avatar

Me too. Over 40 years now of watching only when I'm confronted with a TV at a bar or at someone's house.

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Juju's avatar

🤣👍

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Have never watched the drivel in 50 years...

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MaryAnn's avatar

An Amish gent near where I live said they believe when it is your time ‘to go’ nothing will keep you here. Nothing can stop the will of God.🙏🏻

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Michael Framson's avatar

Not even pickle ball?

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kittynana's avatar

@Doug- What a FABULOUS response!

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

yep, and I will SECOND that one!

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Garden Lover's avatar

Not just television, but social media. Social media does provide some benefits. It’s how I found Jeff, a few friends on FB and X, and the community here. What a difference that has made through all this madness.

That being said, because of its constant barrage of crap, social media also can cause a great deal of anxiety. I try to balance that with family, art, gardening, swimming, music, and friends.

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

"We don't watch television" that is just a great reply. Maybe we should take holidays from TV! Just saying...

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rolandttg's avatar

I've told many people this for over 4 years

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L Birdie Brown's avatar

😂 😂 😂 !!!

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I live in Lancaster County, and it was estimated by a local doctor that the Amish reached herd immunity for Covid in March of 2021.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Or that it was a complete overreaction to a cold, and the lack of exposure to mass media made it so the population experienced a normal cold and flu season.

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Fiat Lux's avatar

I spent 21 days in the hospital and nine days on a ventilator in Sept. '21. The Amish got it right and there is little recognition of that.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I'm sure you realize you are a walking miracle, as 75% of ventilated patients didn't survive. The Amish did lose some elderly to Covid but they died in their homes in the presence of friends and family. No one had to say goodbye to a family member over Zoom. I have an Amish contractor friend whose 40-something cousin was hospitalized with Covid. His mother smuggled Ivermectin into his room in a bologna sandwich. When he realized the hospital was not going to help him, he checked himself out, went home and recovered. Hospitals literally killed people during Covid with the protocols and denial of beneficial therapies. As a retired nurse, I don't think I'll ever come to terms with that.

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Fiat Lux's avatar

When I left the ICU, the nurse that day said I was the first person she had seen that survived the ventilator. Many of the nurses seemed distant and cold to me but then again it's not like you can strike up a chat. It was the worst experience of my life. I had just turned 60.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I am so thankful for your survival story. You should write about it. Patients were sedated and ventilated in the hopes these measures would reduce the spread. I have a friend who refused ventilation. She was sent to the hospice floor where she refused to die. She also is alive to tell the story.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m a healthcare professional with 32yrs of acute care hospital experience. The profession has declined significantly; very few nurses consider it a privilege to care for patients and many haven’t received a quality education. The antics during COVID disgusted me and I was ashamed of the unprofessionalism of so many staff members. Fortunately I had retired by then and didn’t have to deal with colleagues behaving so poorly. My advice is do whatever you can to avoid the healthcare system.

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rolandttg's avatar

that is an indisputable fact, and I will never trust hospitals again

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Garden Lover's avatar

My grandfather was born in 1905. When he grew up, they were where people went to die. That’s not to say there isn’t some good done in hospitals, but I do believe that most medical interventions (i.e., drugs) are what cause the hospital stays in the first place.

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Silent scorn's avatar

I can’t figure out why so many nurses back the jab and defend the lockdowns. As a nurse , what do you think? 🤔

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I think a lot of my decision was related to my upbringing, growing up on a farm. My parents were college educated and promoted independent thinking. You can read about it in my story on Substack. I will admit I trusted traditional western medicine for many years and have had an awakening of sorts. I actually gave the oral polio to the Amish in 1979 during the outbreak in the Plain community. There are probably some safe, necessary vaccines but only a very few. Nurses working today are part of the corporate medical/pharma machine. You are not trained to think for yourself. But that is a broad statement. There were nurses during Covid who bravely resisted. I have one young friend who quit her job and went to work at a smaller local hospital because she rejected the Covid shot.

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rolandttg's avatar

brainwashed, like doctors. That, and the simple fact admitting they were bioweapons would make them unindicted co conspirators, a heavy lift.

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CMCM's avatar

That is why the Biden admin didn't want anyone to know about the Amish.

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Jeff S's avatar

I don't live in Lancaster County. Yet.

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Beckadee's avatar

I recently bought a cantaloupe from a local produce market. It was the best I'd ever had. I called the market to tell them so and he said they came from a TN Amish grower. I think possibly in the Etheridge TN area as I started researching and looking at the housing market there. It was that good.

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shayne's avatar

There are Amish communities in Missouri, and they have the best bulk stores. I make a pilgrimage couple of times a year, with some of my daughters, to buy up all kinds of fabulous stuff. Very nice people.

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Beckadee's avatar

Lucky you. I think I'll drive over there again today [just across Mobile Bay in Baldwin county] and see if they have more. Also ask them what else they get from them and buy that too!

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Vince's avatar

I wonder if there are any Amish farms in Texas

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Juju's avatar

🤣 I love this. We live in a time when a good cantaloupe and a nearby Amish community is at the top of our list of factors for relocation. It’s actually quite wonderful.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I get my cantaloupe from a local farmer’s market. There are multiple varieties. This one is called ambrosia, and it’s a very fitting name for it.

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Jeff S's avatar

My brother lives in PA. He and his wife shop at an Amish market all the time. "Swear" by it.

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Lisa Aschliman's avatar

We live in Ethridge, TN and can attest to all the wonderful produce our Amish neighbors grow. It is a beautiful, peaceful place to live. And they are wonderful neighbors!

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Beckadee's avatar

Nice! I just got back from the market where I bought the cantaloupe and he goes back to Etheridge tomorrow. Said they have an auction. So Friday if they look good he may have some in stock. He confirmed the beautiful and variety of pumpkins came from there as well. Really unique pumpkins and gourds I've never seen before.

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Edith Bice's avatar

What is the name of the market? I live in Baldwin County near Daphne and Spanish Fort!!

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Beckadee's avatar

You know it- Hazel's. I don't go there often and 2 weeks ago they had a beautiful assortment of pumpkins that wouldn't surprise me if they came from Amish.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And they make fabulous pies! When I visit my daughter in Ohio, I buy about five different kinds.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Visited Lancaster County when I was 10 years old. Loved it!! Everywhere I looked, there were horses. For a horse crazy girl, it was paradise. And the food was incredible! Now, I just want to live some place sane, and near an Amish community makes a lot sense. Our nephew and his family bought a farm in Missouri from an Amish family last year. They now have chickens and pigs and a huge garden.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Jeff S's avatar

Some place sane? Stay outta Poughkeepsie.

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kittynana's avatar

@Jeff- but visit if you haven't been. It's lovely area.

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Jeff S's avatar

It's on my list. For the people.

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kittynana's avatar

And the laid back quietness of it all.

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Jeff S's avatar

I grew up in a city. I like noise.

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Vince's avatar

Good one.

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

I lived in Harrisburg PA area for many years. I was a home health/DME nurse. We regularly served the Amish community in Lancaster. I loved going to see my patients and families. They are upright, down-to-earth, loving people. If you live near the Amish... support them.

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erin's avatar

And they should enjoy that feeling of being right... on sooo many levels. Because they are.

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Beckadee's avatar

Asking you that question tells you what you suspect to be true.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

I also know Amish from Northern Indiana. As you point out they call us English.

In general they are highly suspicious of Gubmint dictums and tend to pay it no heed.

Originally they did comply with the no gathering non science but will never do it again. Further they rightfully question vaccines and the latest variant.

As DJT pointed out they do not have autism...

They in general do not drink the kool aid of "educated" English...

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Jeff S's avatar

Brother Eric: Please save a seat for me on that buggy. Er, call me Ishmael.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

"Yippee ki yay, mother ******s!" (Unabashedly plagiarized and heavily censored. Don't cancel me.)

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

Eric…lol. Made my day Loving the Amish for more reasons than one 🥰

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Margot Wooster's avatar

LOL, Eric, and thank you for bleeping yourself!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Oh wow!...that reads a little weird. I'm still "in the game."😂

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Sorry, Eric, I didn’t mean that the way it sounds! I just hate the f-bomb and all its variations and I thank you for not spelling it out!!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

No problem. I'm moderately uncouth. It was funny.

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Lori's avatar

You sound like Bruce Willis!

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Jeff S's avatar

Hahaha.

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Juju's avatar

So much funnier coming from a horse drawn buggy 🤣🤣

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Would it be wrong to blast Metallica's “For Whom The Bell Tolls” from the speakers? Can I even have speakers?

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Beckadee's avatar

check out the books and notice the authors names. You could be Micah too. lol

https://www.amazon.com/s?k=Amish+books&asc_campaign=amishamericacom&asc_source=amishamericacom&tag=amishamericacom-20

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Jeff S's avatar

Eddie Swartzentruber! Great name!

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Beckadee's avatar

That’s better than Micah. The book is probably pretty interesting. Apparently, the Swartzentruber’s are a major player in the Amish community.

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Jeff S's avatar

Swartzentruber? It sounds like the name of a dark sausage. My nice Nana was a "Wurster." Which means sausage maker.

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MaryAnn's avatar

We have Amish Yoders near us. Wonderful wood-craftsmen and butchers (of animals, not wood). 😁

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webstersmill's avatar

Eric, be sure to get out your plumb bob for the barn raising. Years ago was working to correct lean on an old building caused by loss of a corner footer. Took along daughter (who was familiar with such tools) and nephew (who was product of extreme coddling). Was an enlightening morning, haha, with lessons learned for one child, and extreme resistance from the other (who suggested just hiring someone).

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You mean Bob Plumb? Wasn't he on "This Old House?"....him, Rod Carpenter and Phil Roof? I think Rusty Nayle showed up in later episodes.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

When we were kids didn’t we have a tv show featuring a clown called Rusty Nails? I’m guessing that’s where Crusty came from.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

This reminds me that the plumb bob was the symbol of Precepts Bible studies, which greatly blessed me in my early years as a Christian.

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Juju's avatar

I still to this day tell people the a Bible is to a life what a plumb line is to a house, neither can stand for long without one.

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

I was sad when they changed their logo

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Jeff S's avatar

I almost always hire someone else, except when toasting a bagel. It's safer, and more efficient. Plus, I'm lazy.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I completely understand.

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Jeff S's avatar

And yet, people criticize me for cooking only with my magic microwave...

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DS's avatar

Geee, Jeff, don't be so honest.......

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Jeff S's avatar

You wouldn't believe how much effort it took just to write that comment! I think I need to go lie down.

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Juju's avatar

Toasting the bagel yourself is safer and more efficient. Lolol

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

COME ON OVER - we even have special road signs in our part of PA to "alert" people in motorized vehicles that HORSES AND BUGGIES USE THIS HIGHWAY AS WELLl!!

Happy to have ya, Eric!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yes, I've seen them. I have relatives in Amish country. I remember seeing my first horse and buggy...and then another...and another. It was like I was on a different planet, but then again, I don't get out much.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

They are truly embraced locally and, when I moved (briefly) to CA in 1999, and people would ask me where I was "from"...when I mentioned Lancaster, PA...to a person..the initial reaction was, "Oh...the AMISH country" - they're famous throughout the USA--those stalwart Amish. Fantastic farmers and most of their youth still prefer to live their lives within the 'confines' of the Amish parameters of the Christian faith.

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RunningLogic's avatar

There are lots of other Amish communities now, some areas of my state have them and where I grew up in NY there are many now too. They saved a lot of the farms that would probably have been falling down and abandoned. Lancaster is definitely the best known though!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Yes...I knew about the NY enclave and there's also a nice Amish community in OH and IN as well. Just learned that ID also has a small community--they are indeed GRAND FARMERS!!

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Francis Keays's avatar

Where in ID? I know that we have Mennonites here in ID and OR.

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Jeff S's avatar

I wonder if they have Amish in Poughkeepsie?

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Susan Clack's avatar

There's always the pronunciation test to see if you're from there or not...I had a dear fellow DAR friend who was from Lancaster County, PA, and she would ALWAYS correct those of us who used the Californian version. PA's "LANK-uhstr" vs "LANG-CASS-tr" CA. 🫡🫡🫡

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Philly pronounces it just like CA (and probably the rest of the USA--I've only lived in and travelled to about 7 of the 50 United States. We also pronounce "Amish" with a "short A" vowel as opposed to most other states citizenry's "long A" vowel.

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JBell's avatar

I used to buy oil and gas right-of-way for pipeline transmission and worked with the Amish, as we traversed their land. They are extremely intelligent and fierce negotiators!

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Lori's avatar

Reminds me of the movie The Village.

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Susan Clack's avatar

We just watched a cute, entertaining movie about living among the Amish from 1997, starring Tim Allen & Kirstie Allie. "For Richer or Poorer"...

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm not familiar with that flick - when was it made, Lori? I'll have to research it to see if I can watch it on one of the free streaming services I use.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

m night shyamalan. Came out in 2004.

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Lori's avatar

excellent movie.

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kittynana's avatar

@Sharon-Western NY, where I live, also has a large Amish community with such signs. My husband and I call the horse apples on the side of the road 'Amish exhaust'.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Our running club, back in the day, called the treck through Amish country ‘The Road Apple 10K’ 😍

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kittynana's avatar

HAHAHAHA!

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David Nelson's avatar

Between signs, the horse apples, going and coming, are leading indicators that "horses use this thoroughfare as well."

[MY mistake: of course, horse dung is a "lagging indicator" to the presence of horses. Apologies to the astute.]

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Sharon, my fellow Pennsylvanian!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Tell me...what part of PA, Tiny? And why in the world did you develop THAT acronym of yours? (is it related to Bill Clinton calling 'regular people' "deplorables"?

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

50 miles north of Harrisburg on the Susquehanna river. It was Hillary Clinton calling us(in Pa) a basket of deplorables. I proudly proclaim that I am one. Better than being a Democrat.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

The true deplorable is KILLARY - I despised her when she was First "Lady" and the feeling has only DEEPENED WITH TIME.

I do remember Billy Boy Clinton telling the media you can "smell them (the 'deplorables') as they leave Wal-Mart (talking about the people who actually voted for his despot self! He is truly "scum of the earth"!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Kimmel is apparently back on the air, however Sinclair broadcasting will not carry him.

Sorry to hear redundant; I see Jeff covered this.

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Lori's avatar

Good to see Sinclair has balls.

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Jpeach's avatar

The Sinclair owners are staunch conservatives.

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Lori's avatar

so good to hear bc usually they are not.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Nor Nexstar!

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2025/09/breaking-nexstar-joins-sinclair-group-pulls-jimmy-kimmel/

Guess they got their bullet proof glass installed at a reasonable price.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Cool, so who is showing it?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The worst of the worst.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

"but even a freshly squeezed dog deposit glistens in the midday sun." Oh, Eric, my sides are splitting. That is a great one! Stay well.

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Robin Landry's avatar

Ooh. I would pay to see a pair of Clydesdales bust through an Antifa protest.

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Susan Clack's avatar

For some reason, I think of the Budweiser Clydesdales (isn't that a six horse hitch?). They would pulverize the Portland mob. As would a nice truckload of wild cattle that "somehow" got loose from their transport on the way to better pasture. 🫣

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

The Budweiser Clydesdales are 8-horse hitches.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Susan Clack's avatar

Even better! That's eight more steel-shod hooves that could slice & dice those Antifa fools to smithereens ... ❤️‍🔥

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

And have you seen the size of those hooves? I rode a Percheron once, and picking out his hooves was quite the task! Oy, my aching back. Still, it was a thrill to get to ride a draft horse. If only his go, stop, left, right buttons had been installed. He pulled like a tank and steered like a train! It made for an interesting afternoon.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Leo's avatar

Susan, The Antifa infiltrate Portland periodically. The local Portlanders were/are not the violent mob rioters.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

It does have a certain charm.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I have been saying for awhile now, "Maybe the Amish have the right idea!" As a bona fide horsey person, I would recommend an English Shire against the roadblockers. While the Clydesdale is more recognizable (thanks Budweiser!), the Shire is larger and can pull more weight, so, ya know, maximum efficiency! 😂

Mrs "the Knife"

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

But can they stomp, like vigorously, without tiring? I'm looking for a real beast....an Equine Hulk. Data please....and none of that tainted government stuff.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Eric, think of the old Great Horses that knights rode into battle. They were trained to stomp on their foes. Plenty of stomping going on during medieval wars! 😂During the hundreds of years that draft horses were the semis and delivery trucks of their day, the Shire moved the most tonnage, especially from the docks where ships were unloading their cargo. Cars blocking a freeway? Hitch your Shire to it and just tow it away! 😂 I would pay to see that!

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

You stopped short of: “What do I have to do to put you in the saddle today?”

Go get the paperwork. 🤑

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

😂😂 I have it around here somewhere...

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Just don't bring the finance manager. I’ll walk.

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Juju's avatar

This whole thread has me laughing so hard this morning. Thanks to all participating! 🤣😆

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

One horsepower buggies are the best. Make sure it has an adequate sound system.

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M Bagwell's avatar

And of course you have to take the missus and/or your mom to the quilting bee.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

...and 5 hours - no, 6 - of relentless antiquing. Did that.

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Lorita's avatar

I've been thinking of relocation for awhile, I could live with being Amish quite easily. Hubs doesn't agree. We'll see. Eric I really like the Clydesdale part.

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kittynana's avatar

@Lorita- no, you couldn't.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

It's becoming problematic to weave together such dis-similar topics.

The expose on Tylenol is welded to the inclusions Mercury (Hg) and Aluminum (Al)

in the vaxs and quax (mRNA). Some of us knew over 3 decades ago to avoid both categories.

Why ??? Because of a diligent interest in Health and the accumulation of Knowledge.

Most definitely not because of shilling by the Gubmint agencies.

Very different now. We finally have a Commander in Chief and his appointees to take the Big P and Medical Cartel bull by its horns!! This in the wake of the CK debacle.

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neener's avatar

Rehome a Standardbred racehorse! They have lovely personalities and are already trained to get you and your buggy to your destination in speed and style!

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Barnjai's avatar

Oh! I really, really wish I could do that. Our 1/4 acre yard might not be large enough for one of those high stepping beauties.

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shayne's avatar

Please be kind to your buggy horse, they are often times retired standard-breds, and are very often dumped at the slaughter auctions when their usefulness is over. I know you won't do this 😉

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Birdingmom's avatar

Thanks again for the DOSE Eric! My husband made me read the dog 💩 sentence again because I was laughing so hard he couldn't understand me!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

In the right context, poop is universally funny. Go figure.

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nancylee's avatar

been to 2 barn raising. best fun ever.

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The Great Resist's avatar

In case you missed it: Jeff is representing six of the “Disinformation Dozen” (whom the “Biden” administration tried to silence) in a landmark case against various U.S. government agencies, officials, and former officials. The plaintiffs in the suit are Dr. Elizabeth Erin Finn, Riza Islam, Sayer Ji, Dr. Christiane Northrup, Dr. Ben Tapper, and Dr. Sherri Tenpenny.

https://open.substack.com/pub/sayerji/p/on-trial-for-truth

I propose a C&C Army multiplier for this lawsuit. The proceeds go to Childers Law LLC, so Jeff may not promote this himself, but I will! You all know the drill: donate any amount ending in “2”. And spread the word!

https://givesendgo.com/deliberate-dozen?

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Kathleen's avatar

I will support and pass it on. I attended the 2nd Covid litigation conference. My husband was one of the speakers. (His company helps Attorney’s plaintiffs with financial planning needs)These are brave Doctors that took their oath to “first do no harm” seriously.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

I know Dr. Tenpenny and she is a real sweetheart who was treated horribly by the State of Ohio.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Dr Sherry Tenpenny made a video early on about the shits, oops, shots and covid. Her guest was Dr Lee Merritt. They, especially Merritt gave me the tools to ward off infection, thus no need for a shot. I took zinc and quercitin and ordered ivermectin.

She also told us that all the animals died in the early shot studies.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Pfizer never completed round two of trials. I recommend reading at least the first 15 pages of the Pfizer docs. Pfizer knew ahead of time that the shot imparted myocarditis and severely impacted fertility in a number of ways. They knew the animals had died.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Yep!

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Annette's avatar

Dr. Tenpenny is one of the original Medical Avengers against the Covid narrative. I attended a clandestine meeting back in January 2021, off a dark country road in northeast Ohio where she shared the mechanisms of injury of the shots. Several hundred mask-free patriots heard the truth. Thanks for setting up the multiplier for this cause!

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CHop's avatar

My friend was a patient of Dr. Tenpenny in early 2000s. She told me how Tenpenny was treating kids with autism and many had greatly improved.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

That’s so cool Annette!

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Astragale's avatar

zinc and quercitin - great preventives.

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CHop's avatar

I get food from a Menonite farm in Amish country. Tenpenny gave them protocol early on to treat covid. She's an American hero.

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Great idea Great Resist! Donation happily made.

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Susan's avatar

Done!

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SushiRoll's avatar

¡Yo también!

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I.M. Nottaborg's avatar

I wonder why they give Tylenol since they are saying 'seizures are normal'!!?? I was born way back when the standard of care was NEVER give a flu shot if the person is already sick. So now they poison you and then shut down your liver detox pathways.

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CL Shoemake's avatar

This retired RN also recalls when one never gave any sort of vax if patient as the least showing possible symptoms of illness. Watching how all protocols I had learned and practiced where just tossed in the garbAge w/SARS-Cov2, immediately told me evil was behind the whole debacle.

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Jeff C's avatar

I went and took a look at the lawsuit, nice piece of work by Jeff Childers.

But oh my gosh, I stumbled across some startling information. Mr. Childers real first name is "Seldon" and Jeff is actually his middle name. Seldon, lol. The complaint is signed by Seldon J. Childers, and I thought who is this guy? Then it dawned on me.

My middle name is awful and a deeply held secret so I don't blame him. But I have to enjoy a small snicker and I hope he doesn't mind.

Edit: Sort of reminiscent of the Seinfeld episode when George found out Kramer's first name was Cosmo. Please forgive my immaturity at having a chuckle at our host's expense.

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LMWC's avatar

My cousin’s wife’s maiden name was Cramer. She had 3 girls and her fourth child was a boy who she named, Cramer. Those of us old enough to remember Seinfeld, kidded her he might be nicknamed, Cosmo. 😉

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JW's avatar

I bet the name Charlie will be the number one baby name shortly.

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Astragale's avatar

That would be wonderful.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

My orange cat’s name is Cosmo Kramer!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Done!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Done ... from one of the troops, to support our Commander.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Thank you for highlighting this! A worthy cause indeed!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Glad you posted this early enough for more to see it today! 🤩

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RunningLogic's avatar

Also happy to see the numbers increasing little by little!!

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Carolyn Dykstra's avatar

Thank you for sharing. Done!

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Al Juarez's avatar

Done

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

done!

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Heather Sheen's avatar

Done!

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MayBella82's avatar

Done... appreciate Jeff and his team fighting for those who are giving spreading truth.

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Carrie's avatar

2nd smartest guy in the world substack had a good take on the autism announcement- yes Tylenol is a contributing factor, but it’s often given to relieve the symptoms, fever, etc after a vaccine is given. So it likely acts to enhance the adverse effects of vaccines.

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Carrie's avatar

The real cause will be multifactorial… mostly with a root cause being vaccines. It sucks that they have to ease the population into that knowledge.

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Valerie's avatar

Both of your points are really good. I took quite a lot of Tylenol during my pregnancies because I’m prone to headaches even when not pregnant and my docs told me it was the only safe option. Bastards. My kids are adults now and I feel like I dodged a bullet.

If I knew then what I know now I would have been using ice packs and lukewarm Epsom salts baths way more than Tylenol.

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Carrie's avatar

On facebook, some posts from lefty primary care physician friends of mine shared the statement from ACOG (American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology), stating that Tylenol is perfectly safe, and they should continue to take it basically. I blocked further posts like that.

It’s like they knee jerk oppose anything that comes out of the Trump admin or from RFK. They don’t even try to critically think. Tylenol has been deemed the safest non narcotic analgesic for over decades, and there are not alternative pharma products, but geez, every physician knows all drugs and interventions have side effects. They can’t even stop to think, hmm… maybe pregnant mothers should consider alternatives like the epsom salt baths, ice packs like Valerie mentioned. There’s also interventions like breathing exercises, counter strain, osteopathic manipulation, prayer, meditation, fasting. Also all fevers do not need to be treated with meds.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

ACOG is still pushing the covid DeathVax.

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Carrie's avatar

Yep, when I go for my yearly exam, those signs are still up. It’s a pseudo religious cult. New book out, or coming out by Aaron Siri (hope I spelled it correctly) called Vaccines, Amen. He’s an attorney who has litigated against vaccine mandates, and is very well researched. He was recently in front of congress, and when asked by a vaccine cultist snarkily, “…but are you a doctor?” He replied something like, “in litigation and depositions I have to have all the facts and accurate data, and I don’t get to rely on mere titles.” I recently listened to an interview with him, I think his book will be a great read.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Aaron Siri is a rock star!!

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Juju's avatar

His reply was awesome

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Roger Beal's avatar

And a good percentage of our local Walmart shoppers are masked up ... after a period when seeing masks was uncommon. Are the fetishists afraid there's a new coof outbreak incoming?

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Susan Daniels's avatar

That's good. The idiots self-identify.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

HERE TOO! WE ARE EDUCATED BLUE. I'm RED HOT. 😡

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CMCM's avatar

I'm thinking the extreme mask fanatics will mask up every flu and cold season now. I'm seeing them in lots of places now, too.

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Emumundo's avatar

I thought about wearing a mask to mess with Walmarts biometrics.

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Lori's avatar

they should be forced to pay for the care for the autistic children that will be born. acupuncture is another great modality.

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Carrie's avatar

Forgot about that one… I’ve had acupuncture, it works!

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I get migraines and have found recently that turmeric is excellent for them, if not even better than ibuprofen like I took before.

Yes, in the medical field we learn that fevers in fact are a very good thing. Microbes cannot live in a slightly elevated temp from body temperature and so the fever is actually zapping microbes and allows you to phase through the sickness faster. Depressing a fever prolongs or worsens a sickness. It’s your body’s method of killing off the thing causing your illness. There is even talk that higher fevers may not be as harmful as previously thought as well. I’m still on the fence on it, but low grade fevers are supremely beneficial to recovery.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

I even put a heating pad on my chest if I have a cough. Roast the little buggers!

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Lana's avatar

And homeopathic remedies!

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SushiRoll's avatar

Didn't I see the phrase "safer than Tylenol" frequently used to describe ivermectin? or was it 'aspirin'? Whatever, we're still using IVM!

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Carrie's avatar

Yep I’ve seen fulminant hepatic failure from Tylenol overdose. Every medication has side effects, even the ones deemed “safe”.

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Granny Annie's avatar

I never took any Tylenol while I was pregnant. My daughter, however, was given all of the "required" vaccinations when she was a baby, a toddler, and so on. She was autistic.

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Juju's avatar

All three of mine are. And looking back the exact day each dramatically changed lined up with a birthday vaccination. We didn’t connect the dots at the time because we were completely uninformed and unconnected to people in the know - not by choice though. My heart breaks every day that we didn’t know.

Thankfully the one psychiatrist we hung onto all these years stayed on top of things. Ten years ago he prescribed Deplin to both my boys saying they had a folate deficiency and Deplin was better because it delivers it in its active form whereas other options only gave the body what it needed to make it itself. But my one son’s body does not make it at all so Deplin was the best option. We had to arm wrestle with insurance to cover it. They approved it for our younger but not our older.

Folate deficiency is real.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I am so sorry.

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CMCM's avatar

Do doctors still prescribe extra folate to pregnant women??

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Valerie's avatar

Uggghhh

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mspring's avatar

Never been pregnant, don't have the hardware, but when Tylenol became "the thing", i tried it for headache and muscle pain. It did absolutely nothing for me, period. No change at all. I figured it was a scam, continued to use aspirin for headaches. I never tried Tylenol for fever, as had been told by many old folks that fever was how we kill the bugs, and fortunately i never had the raging runaway fever some folk get. So i still think it's a scam and encourage everyone to not use it for any purpose. There is always something else to try.

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CMCM's avatar

Interesting...I've never found it very effective either and I haven't taken it for years. Ibuprofen works better for me (it has its own set of negatives), but I rarely use that either.

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Jeff S's avatar

When my daughter and son were under development, I didn't get one headache. Since their births, my head has throbbed like a throbbing head.

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Valerie's avatar

lol, my husband felt the same, esp in their teenage years

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Jeff S's avatar

As my mother always used to say, "We should have sold one or two of youse to the gypsies."

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PamelaZelie's avatar

My husband did fine in their teen years; I had the headaches!

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Jeff S's avatar

It never ends.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Small price to pay for the pain of carrying a child and childbirth 😉

Actually, I didn’t have kids but just felt like needling you! 😄

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melanie's avatar

Yes I get optical migraines and literally go blind so I need to take exedrin tension when I get them. I took it almost weekly while pregnant. I knew of the link (it’s been around for years) but I wouldn’t have been able to feed my other children or function without it. We mitigate it though by not vaxxing and living a very low tox lifestyle. Praise God my 3 kids are perfectly fine as of now.

I hope this pushes doctors especially pediatricians to allow delayed/deny schedules and not kick out patients.

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Valerie's avatar

I have occipital neuralgia… I know the pain well.

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Emumundo's avatar

So sorry. ❤️ The pain is real.

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CMCM's avatar

My daughter was born in 1970. At that point in time, I was told it was best to take nothing during pregnancy, nothing! And also to not drink any alcohol. I wonder when that attitude changed. I was prone to headaches, but oddly, that went away while I was pregnant.

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U L's avatar

My kids too are adults. I took absolutely nothing because I had grown up in the age of the Contergan Kids in Germany.

My mother was offered this drug by her doctor for morning sickness. She didn't take it. I am grateful for that. It could have been me too.

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Gloria Magee's avatar

As one who has experienced headaches, add oral magnesium and vitamin B 2 and peppermint essential oil (really great to put it on the roof of your mouth as well as topically-just avoid the eye area) to your arsenal.

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Gabriella's avatar

Well, I never took Tylenol while pregnant and while nursing. I never gave Tylenol after haxxines as my kids never seemed to need it after their shots. Yet, I have one child on the spectrum. He also has allergies, asthma, ADHD, anxiety, depression & sleep disorders. My other two have various issues also. They all did get Tylenol in cold medicines and all have had antibiotics. My feelings is haxxines mostly contributed to their issues but I’m sure, antibiotics, Tylenol, toxins in food and environment all played a role also.

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Lana's avatar

Lots is definitely connected to the gut imbalances caused by antibiotics. And if he’s one of the 60-70% of us with the MTHFR gene mutation, he cannot detox from toxins (or folic acid in all “fortified” foods!) Folinic acid, probiotics and eliminating processed food could make a big difference for him.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

The real cause of almost ALL chronic disease is multifactorial. That is why modern medicine can't find reasons, they look for ONE THING that is causing it ALL on top of an assumed to be healthy body. What they fail to realize in that the body has experienced so many insults to it and small damages that it takes little to break it at it's weakest part, wherever that may be in THAT person, which won't match up to another person. Looking for "what one factor made this healthy person suddenly ill?" is NOT asking the right question.

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Linda's avatar

Toxic exposure and poor nutrition caused my chronic health problems. I learned the hard way that every thing I learned from FDA and our medical system was wrong. Reversing this is possible via excellent nutrition and reducing toxic exposure as well as aggressively pursuing natural detoxification.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Can relate

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Irunthis1's avatar

Many pediatricians give a dose of acetaminophen right before or right after giving the shots! They know it’s going to be necessary due to the pain and fever they will cause. And they always tell the parents to give it if kid has pain/fever after the shots. If I had to guess I’d say roughly 90% get both, every time.

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Carrie's avatar

That’s one of the points 2nd smartest was making. Bingo! Also I believe Tylenol lowers glutathione levels which is also bad. Ok to fact check me on this. I’m a surgeon, but we never learned about basic WELLNESS. I’ve learned a lot of this on my own, and there’s a lot to absorb.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

I'm glad you are waking up, Carrie, we need more well trained people who have actual clues. Look up functional medicine, we need more surgeons who understand things :D

Most of us have had to learn it on our own, while being vilified as crazy for thinking about things like this. "Just shut up and do what you are told!" No, thanks. Any time I have done so in my life I have been damaged worse. I'm not listening to that any more. It doesn't make for an easy life, the system is set up for people to obey it. Insurance won't help me for things I need because the things I need aren't the things they want me to take. No, thanks. But I feel I have to keep insurance, what if I get injured and some kind soul calls an ambulance for me? Medical bankruptcy is a thing. So I have to pay for both insurance AND my own actual health care.

The system is broken, and I'm glad RFK is starting to look at the pieces and get out the glue.

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Juju's avatar

And doctors or surgeons who brush off critical questions or insights with “well you couldn’t possibly understand not being a doctor/surgeon” etc makes my blood boil. In essence what they are saying is that they could take a few years to study and learn something but you, worm, don’t have that capacity. I most certainly do given my own degrees in Computer Science, but even if I was just an un-degreed gas station attendant I’d still have the capacity to learn what another human being has learned. I spent three years becoming an expert in my personal health conditions and understood them better than my PCP. So when a surgeon said that to me, I knew to look elsewhere for the surgery I needed, and it saved my life. They made countless mistakes in their arrogance, I did not.

This is my soapbox until the day that I actually do die.

Anyone that puts in the time and effort can learn and understand what a medical professional does. That’s true of any profession. It’s why I get angry when the left touts Charlie Kirk was “uneducated”. Well if I remember correctly Lincoln was self taught by books, was he not? Self taught is better because it’s pure and not contaminated by twisted politics in a classroom.

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I’m there with you JuJu. They were once ignorant as well and learned what they know now, what makes us any different than them? We all have human brains capable of learning. Certainly experience is probably the best teacher (in my patient care experience it was. Well, rather book learning, experience, and then going back to book learning to cement it. Then repeat experience gave me more confidence to try different treatment approaches) but it doesn’t mean you can’t understand or comprehend even more than a doctor. We have got to stop as a culture thinking doctors are some sort of Demi gods that perform miracles. They aren’t. And they really don’t know a lot. And probably googled most of what they know…I should add I’m speaking mostly of MDs…

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Carrie's avatar

I see a functional medicine NP for my overall health

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CMCM's avatar

Probably 25 years ago at least, chiropractors seemed to be expanding their businesses with wellness approaches and various neglected vitamins. I remember they were soundly criticized for that and often called quacks, as if not being a medical doctor meant they lacked the training and knowledge to teach their patients other ways to maintain your health. What those critics never realized was that when in medical school, doctors get just a few hours of nutritional training. My son had a particular condition that I researched heavily to learn about. At one point his doctor told me this: "You know far more about this than I do!" At least he was honest.

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That's why people use Frequency Medicine. It works for EVERY disease and most symptoms are gone in 10 minutes. Get sick for about an hour so your body can identify the invader for next time, then use the equipment and you're done being sick. https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/ba49a7a6-1645-4d92-97e2-66ccf15240f6

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Delightful Designs's avatar

And those of us without money use a free app called Z-app, Icon is blue and white and looks like an oscilloscope readout. Be sure to wear headphones. If youtube is easier, not quite as good as Z-app is a channel called Spooky2, I like the ones that show a dark blue picture, you'll see it in their lists.

An actual rife machine would be my preference and awesome, and much better than this, but it's not in my budget.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

How can I let RFK Jr. know about this technology? I tried his website where he invites comments, but got no response.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

I suspect if you sent it they either saw it, or they saw what I did, that link looked like it was planning to download stuff without telling me what it was, I clicked off of it.

You might find a better link to send them. And incidentally, they know about frequency medicine, it's been noisy and public for a long time. If the thing you are trying to show him is newer tech, it has a LOT of competition out there. Rife machines have been around for quite a while, and like I said above, you can get youtube or phone apps to do the audio version of it.

And if you get a better link, I'd love to see it. But that one didn't look safe.

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Linda Sartain's avatar

I have used Aspirin all my life, sparingly of course. It's been "tested" for over 125 years. My children were given Aspirin as needed.

I forbid the use of Ibuprofen as I believed from reading that it was detrimental to the kidneys. Also I tried Tylenol once and it wasn't effective. So I've stayed with the "tried and true", simple Aspirin.

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Lori's avatar

pediatricians are beyond foul. i bet many of them do not even like children. I picture them around a cradle with demonic faces like out of the scene from Rosemary's Baby.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not all are that bad but they definitely seem to adhere to the cult like mentality of most doctors about medical interventions 😕 OB GYNs are just as bad with pitocin, epidurals and c sections. Brainwashed by their medical schools and the mentality of the system they work in.

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Lori's avatar

if they are that easily brainwashed, medicine is the last vocation they should be in.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Unfortunately it seems like the opposite has happened.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I remember the pediatricians recommending giving tylenol “before” the shots! I shudder now and regret every shot my children received. And, I would not recommend anyone take their child to a pediatrician (their reputation is the pits), but go to a Family Practitioner instead.

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Cindybeeley's avatar

I worked at a peds office for 12 years. That was definitely a practice of ours. I say this to my sorrow—I didn’t know any better at the time😢

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Sep 23Edited

You do now ❤️ One better soul now available to our side. And nobody knows anything better than someone who has been on both sides. Strongest among us.

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Pam's avatar
Sep 23Edited

Families of children with autism, and the courageous doctors who actually try to heal these kids, have known about the connection between vaccines and Tylenol for MANY years.

Fifteen years ago, my son had a severe vaccine reaction after his 18 mo. old shots. My healthy, happy boy totally changed. He stopped talking. He avoided and hid from us, he tantrumed, and banged his head on the wall and hit it with his fists. He stimmed (periods of repetitive movements and vocalizations), and stopped playing and interacting completely. He was in his own frustrated, miserable world. It was heartbreaking.

How did our pediatrician help, you may wonder? He offered us nothing. No support. No ideas. Just a referral for a speech evaluation and then turned his back on us, (I like to think out of shame and guilt).

One evaluation led to another, and my son was diagnosed with autism at 2 and a half years old.

We were extremely blessed to live in an area that provided services to help our son, (speech, OT and behavioral therapy).

Then, the REAL help came, when we went to see a brilliant, Harvard trained psychiatrist, 8 hours away. She was helping autistic patients by healing the underlying physical damage that causes the symptoms of autism.

SHE TOLD US AT OUR FIRST APPOINTMENT THAT VACCINES CONTAINED TOXINS THAT CAUSED BRAIN DAMAGE, AND THAT TYLENOL GIVEN AFTER VACCINATION HELPED THOSE TOXINS TO CROSS THE BLOOD-BRAIN BARRIER.

I am overwhelmed with gratitude for a day that I thought would never arrive. I believe that yesterday was the answer to millions of prayers.

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Carrie's avatar

I believe mothers of vax injured children are way more knowledgeable about vaccines than most doctors. So sorry for what you and your child went through 😢

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Pam's avatar
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Thank you for your kind words, they are truly appreciated.

Up until the scam-demic, I think the vaccine injured, their families and a few "alternative medicine" doctors were the only ones who understood the dangers of vaccines. We, the crazy anti-vaxxers, spent many years in the wilderness being targeted and mocked as dangerous conspiracy theorists, (including by the infamous Jimmy Kimmel, as I recall).

Then, the evil plandemic morons who dreamed and schemed, plotted and profited, while the world took their poison, did something that those of us in the anti-vax community have never been able to accomplish - They opened the eyes of millions, and paved the way for their own products to finally be exposed as toxic sludge.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Yes, and tylenol depletes glutathione. Were you able to access any treatments to help your son? I went through the same path with my older daughter, then 3 1/2, in 2004. She was less badly affected, she had what they then called PDD-NOS. We reduced a lot of the problems with DMSA chelation. Alas, this mostly helps younger kids.

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Pam's avatar

I'm very sorry that this happened to your daughter and your family. Yes, the doctor gave my son treatment for encephalitis, which made a tremendous difference. Then we followed a protocol to heal his gut, detox and support brain health. This doc used a lot of herbal medicine, along with common sense old school remedies like Cod Liver Oil!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I put out this substack last week. It's a roundup of six articles from Children's Health Defense. One of them was about a study linking fevers in young children and autism. The study didn't track the link explicitly, but it's pretty well understood that the link is "kid gets a fever, parent gives kid tylenol". Often the kid has a fever from a reaction to a vaccine, so he or she is already vulnerable.

https://skepticalactuary1348.substack.com/p/six-articles-on-vaccine-safety-from

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Based Florida Man's avatar

From Larry Cook/x: Testosterone amps the bad effects of Tylenol (and it's bad interactions with vaccines), thus boys are getting ASD 4X as much as girls.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I just read yesterday that they give Tylenol before, during and after circumcision. They’ve already had the Vitamin K shot (it also prevents the baby from bleeding out from the procedure.) and Hep B. Add some Tylenol to the mix and I would bet that’s the reason for your 4 in 1.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh that would be an interesting study to do, for comparison! Circumcised vs non as far as autism rates. The combination of interventions and meds might indeed make a difference.

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shayne's avatar

I refused to have my boys cut...

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Circumcision is a terrible genital mutilation of God's creation and should be strongly shunned and discontinued.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Tell that to my uncircumcised till aged 10 after an infection nephew and the thousands like him.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

1. It's always women that speak up for male genital mutilation. You never seen males pushing it.

2. God made little baby boys perfect. We shouldn't mutilate them.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That’s absurd. Much better to get rid of that germ catching flap in infancy than when old enough to know about it. That’s traumatic.

It’s not mutilation, it’s hygiene.

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Double Mc's avatar

I am so, so grateful that my son was spared. His MMR as a toddler spiked an unbelievable fever in the middle of the night. I gave him a tepid bath, some Tylenol, put him to bed, and left him in God's hands. I had done all I could. The next morning, he was fine. It horrifies me now to think how differently this could have ended.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

I'm vaccine damaged. One of my earliest memories is of being at our summer home on a lake and being forced to stay in the lake to bring my fever down so I didn't have another seizure. I remember arguing with my mom "I want to go to the hospital!" "They will just put you in a cold bath. Stay there!" I don't envy her dealing with a 3 year old who didn't understand.

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Jeff S's avatar

Whew. Happy ending. Great!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I read about testosterone making mercury more damaging and estrogen reducing the harm of mercury back in around 2004, just a couple of years after mercury had been phased out of vaccines (in the developed world).

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Kathy's avatar

Still in some flu shots.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh interesting!

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william howard's avatar

Bingo - and Tylenol was around long (decades) before autism became so pervasive

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Willing Spirit's avatar

And, no doubt, funded a campaign against aspirin that terrified parents and made Tylenol the only option pediatricians would recommend. I remember it well.

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Susan Daniels's avatar

Since 1955.

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Lori's avatar

tylenol is highly toxic to dogs and cats too.

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TT's avatar

Yes, Tylenol inhibits glutathione production, the master antioxidant. Couple that with something like a MTHFR

gene mutation, then the baby will have a hard time detoxing the vaccine and especially the adjuvants.

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Eliza Parker's avatar

This is exactly what I was saying yesterday to anyone that would listen (mainly my husband) and on comment threads, so I’m relieved to hear the 2nd smartest man in the world agrees with me. 😉

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

President Trump not only said to space out the vaccines - not taking the 3-in-1s and 4-in-1s and not taking more than one at a time.

He said that Hep B is for a sexually transmitted disease and it shouldn't be given to kids until they are 12. He said that a couple of times.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I hope eventually they look at Gardasil. My cousin sells it but won’t allow her daughters to take it.

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Kathy's avatar

True! Interferes with glutathione, which is one of your body‘s natural protections.

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Jimmie Manwiller's avatar

I just checked with Grek and he still doesn’t know how Tylenol works. They don’t know the mechanism of action of how this actually alleviates pain. There’s only speculation…

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Mandy's avatar

Does it annoy anyone else when the media refers to our president as Mr. Trump or just Trump as opposed to President Trump? Just another way for them to disrespect him. They would never do that to a democrat president. I know we’ve got bigger fish to fry these days, but it really gets under my skin.

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Peter's avatar

It’s disrespectful . Intentionally.

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Valerie's avatar

It’s not uncommon to refer to a president by their last name, but you’re right in that they rarely ever use the title for President Trump, and it’s intentional .

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SushiRoll's avatar

TDS is on display in spades! Right after the end of the announcement, 5 o'clock news programs were interviewing local obstetricians & pediatricians to 'debunk' the Tylenol theory! - even the WHO did today & more blue states are divorcing themselves from the CDC!

But at the conclusion of Ron Johnson's recent Senator hearing on 'An Inconvenient Study'[www.aninconvenientstudy.com] Dr. Toby Rogers explained the epistemological problem in medical science where corporate capture, rather than objectivity drives the process.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yes Mandy, it gets under my skin too. Than I have to remind myself, that the media is retarded, & ask God for help 😵‍💫😉

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Lori's avatar

for sure Libtarded.

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯 You would think they would show more respect since they are always telling us he is a dictator and we know what dictators do to people they don't like. Lol. 😉

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RunningLogic's avatar

Which definitely goes to show they *don’t* actually believe he’s a dictator.

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Jeff S's avatar

The Donald!

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Jackie J's avatar

If it helps (it won’t) I had a dream last night that the Obamas came to my house for thanksgiving and brought their Christmas decorations. I promptly stood on a chair and made fun of each decoration. Then I felt terrible and apologized. I don’t recall if I called him President Obama or not.

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Mandy's avatar

Hilarious!!!!

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Likewise, it was always "Bush," but "President Obama."

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Every time.

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Tonya's avatar

Kennedy insisting that the mothers who saw first-hand the immediate and devastating effects of vaccines on their children should be believed is what these mothers (and fathers) have been hoping for.

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Juju's avatar
Sep 23Edited

Yes, he made a comparison of how women should be believed when they cry rape but are not being believed when they cry out for harm to their children. (Something to that extent)

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Yes, I love his re-use of the “Believe all women” charge (even though its original use was ridiculous). Imagine if there was a “believe all men“ campaign.

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Jen's avatar
Sep 23Edited

LOVE IT! I could not wait to see C&C this morning to see your take on the presser yesterday, which I did watch until Fox cut away from Kennedy (who was still speaking) and put on the Five instead. That was a bit of a bummer. Anyway, I noticed the same thing - while he led with Tylenol, he was clearly going after the shots. I think this is just the start. If we can start pushing out the shots, we're going to start seeing these autism rates decline. I'm hoping that will wake up even more people who've been asleep up until now.

It is notable though that J&J dumped Tylenol in 2023. They must've known something was coming. I could see that Tylenol is a part of this...after all, we've been using it to bring down babies fevers post vaccination. And as Trump said yesterday, Cuba has no Tylenol and they have no autism. So I definitely think it's playing a role in these outcomes. The shots are definitely the cause though. And it's not just autism they're causing, think of the whole host of other illnesses we are battling. Has anyone else moved from just being vax hesitant these past few years to full on anti-vax? It took me a little while to get there, but based on the vast amounts of information we've seen these past several years, I see no reason to continue shots at all. I can only hope and pray that's where this thing is eventually going. As for my family, we now have religious exemptions and will never get a shot again. They have permanently lost my trust. Now, if we could just get rid of pharma's liability shield we can crumble this much faster.

Oh, and great call on his part to mention the Amish. How much longer are we going to keep letting these sick shot fetishists gaslight us as to why the Amish are so much healthier than we are? Their food is a part of it, yes. But not getting shot up with 80 shots as a newborn infant is the rest of it.

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Valerie's avatar

I went from vaxx hesitant to anti vaxx also. Covid radicalized me in this respect.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I don't care if the Black Death returns. Never taking another one.

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Jen's avatar

I know - my husband was like "what about measles?" and I said "what about them?" I don't trust the shots at all anymore.

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Mark Oshinskie's avatar

Most of the vaxxes are for non-lethal stuff.

And once people had decent living conditions, infectious diseases didn't kill them.

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Jen's avatar

Exactly!! You can trace it all back to that. It kills me we’re injecting kids over chicken pox. Chicken pox! Here kids, don’t take a chance with a few itchy scratchy bumps. Here’s some mercury and aluminum for your system instead.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’ve read we have better treatments now so it shouldn’t be as much of an issue as before (but if someone knows more about this feel free to correct me).

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Juju's avatar

I’ll take my chances with the measles before another shot ever again

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

You don't have take any chance with ANY disease if you use Energy Density Frequency Technology. It's not rocket science. It's 22nd century medicine. https://www.swisstransfer.com/d/ba49a7a6-1645-4d92-97e2-66ccf15240f6

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Tell him it's easily treated with Vit A.

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Susan Seas's avatar

My mother-in-law got two C jabs said she wouldn’t get another one after seeing all her friends having issues and some dying. Then she said my doctor‘s pushing RSV what do you think about that one? And I replied well, if you haven’t learned anything yet.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I would stay away from RSV shots too. I don't trust anything Big Pharma tells me anymore.

Was her doctor pushing the shingles shot too?

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Juju's avatar

Last year the doctor office I used for 30 years tried to push the shingles vax on me after my doctor retired, because I was “nearing 60”. I scoffed, said hell no, and haven’t gone back to them since. They got an earful after trying to reinstate my statin that I refused to take anymore, trying to scare me over an elevated LDL. It was only 170 🙄 and I’m a low carb Keto/carnivore so that’s actually rather low for that diet. Lol. I gave them a tearing down and exited stage left. Still looking for a new doctor … Chicago area doesn’t have many unconnected to the bureaucracy.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The shingles vax has a FDA black box warning on it for developing Guillain-Barre Syndrome. Luckily, I had printed out the warning and showed it to my doctor. But, still, every time I have a PCP appointment, the nurse tells me I am due for the shot. And I have tell her about the FDA black box warning. I am usually met with a blank look. So it is that she didn't know about the warning, or has no idea what an FDA black box warning is?

Scary because how many veterans listen and just take it without knowing about the potential harms.

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Jen's avatar

I have been looking at this myself. They really lowered the threshold for what healthy cholesterol was supposed to be on and got everybody on statins. That is looking more and more like a marketing scam everyday. They created millions of customers overnight.

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Susan Seas's avatar

💯 I’m sure she already got shingles Vx years ago.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

99% of Americans have had RSV by the time they are 2 years old.

No, she doesn't need the shot and neither does anyone else.

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Susan Seas's avatar

100 was for not needing it.

Did not know most young children have had it! Wow

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Susan Seas's avatar

💯 ‼️

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shibumi's avatar

"I don't care if the Black Death returns. Never taking another one."

Coming soon: Ivermectin cures the Black Death!

....only kind of joking, that stuff is awesome!

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Jeff S's avatar

I just keep eating frozen mini marshmallows.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Do you add dark chocolate to that? Improves the quality.

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Jeff S's avatar

Not on MY marshmallows! But, dark chocolate is great on my mini pretzels and frozen Gummi bears.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Bubonic plague can now be cured with antibiotics.

So can pertussis.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Good to know.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'm in the camp that all vaccines should be avoided until they are properly tested.

Same for pet shots as well.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Dr Will Falconer, substack, just did a whole seminar on rabies shots. Even the very first day was enlightening. He described rabies vax injuries in dogs. My husband’s hunting dog has all the symptoms including eating sticks and other non-digestible stuff. Even excessive licking.

Note: I didn’t get through the whole series but there is a chart about the presence of rabies in the US and I’m not sure what he recommends as far as puppies getting rabies shots. Life got in the way but I do need to figure it out before my next pup.

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Karmy's avatar

After watching Dr Falconer’s seminar on rabies we got a titer test for rabies so that we don’t need to give the rabies vax to our dog. It’s not cheap but worth it.

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Karmy's avatar

Thanks Lori. The Kansas State University (KSU) Rabies Laboratory is a primary facility for rabies titer testing, recognized by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) as one of only two commercial laboratories authorized to perform the Rapid Fluorescent Focus Inhibition Test (RFFIT). That is why the titer test Is expensive.

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Lori's avatar

read about nosode therapy and vaccinosis in pets which vets won't talk about or don't know or acknowledge.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Thanks Lori, homeopathic right?

Will check now! Thanks again.

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Lori's avatar

Yes, integrative vet or holistic vet.

see if you can find one here in your area:

https://www.ahvma.org/find-a-holistic-veterinarian/#!directory/map/

or just google "holistic veterinarian in (put your city or state). hope this helps.

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-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

Did Dr. Falconer give any ideas on how to detox our dogs from it? Or any vaccines? I believe I’m done giving my dogs vaccines for forever. But I want to see if I can detox my sweet boy that has gotten some in my prior ignorance.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Check above, Lori said Nosode therapy. I definitely need to research it. I think but don’t know, homeopathic?

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Jen's avatar

me too

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I’d really like to know if aspirin truly causes Reye’s syndrome or if that was a cover to push Tylenol.

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AM Schimberg's avatar

Aspirin really is a miracle drug!

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Mark Oshinskie's avatar

Aspirin caused many deaths that were misattributed to the Spanish Flu.

And it's not a heart attack preventer, either.

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Oma's avatar

That’s what I’d heard/read but hesitated in ordering any. But I believe I’ll go ahead and find some reliable studies on aspirin.

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Jen's avatar

yes! The other thing I was wondering about was ibuprofen. How come that wasn't mentioned? He said there really is no alternative for moms not to take Tylenol, they just need to not take it. So my husband asked me "what about Ibuprofen?" and I had no answer to that one.

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Eliza Parker's avatar

I suffered from chronic migraines during multiple pregnancies. I was told numerous times, explicitly, to not take Ibuprofen. I tried to be completely drug free so I only used Tylenol as a last resort anyway and it barely worked. My insurance did agree to pay for chiropractor appointments to help alleviate the headaches, there are other options, acupuncture helped too.

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Lori's avatar

acupuncture rocks and so non invasive

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Love acupuncture. I can actually get it done at the VA.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Non invasive? 🤣

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Lori's avatar

whats so funny RJ?

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Jen's avatar

This is good to know. I guess I was really fortunate in that I didn't have to take anything. I feel for women dealing with chronic conditions though.

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shibumi's avatar

For what it's worth: my husband is a chemist, and early in his career, he worked for three different small drug companies. He is not a fan of Tylenol at all-- he actually avoids it-- and doesn't like either ibuprofen and naproxen sodium. He loves aspirin. Plain, old fashioned aspirin. We have all of them in the house, and all of them work for different things for me. And no, he's never explained his jihad against Tylenol.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I took one Aleve (naproxen) last fall for knee pain. Then about an hour later, I had flushing on my face and upper torso. Nixed ever using that again.

Had minor hand surgery last month. I was given ibuprofen and Tylenol for pain. Took about 3 doses of ibuprofen and then suffered some sort of allergic reaction. Lots of congestion, sneezing, sniffling, and nose blowing. So, I went to drugs.com to check to see if this was a figment of my imagination. Discovered that is a reaction to ibuprofen especially if you have asthma (which I do). So nixed ever using that one again.

Looks like aspirin will be my only choice.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Years ago, I was given a high dose of naproxen for constant headaches. It caused some toxic reaction in my gut that led to physical and then mental anguish that took months to alleviate. I will NEVER take any form of naproxen again.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I am likewise a fan of aspirin if something must be taken. It was one of the 5 or 6 old remedies my mother had in the cabinet at all times.

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KDB's avatar

Ibuprofen isn’t safe to take during pregnancy either, at least during the second half.

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Lori's avatar

Ibu is an nsaid, Tylenol is not and so comes with other side effects.

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Jessica Libolt's avatar

If at all possible, avoid taking something orally and use something topical instead. Anything you take orally, affects the body systemically. For example, it might decrease your headache but it also shrinks back the villi in your digestive tract making the body less able to break down and absorb nutrients for hours afterwards. That is simply not worth it to me.

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Jen's avatar

This is good to know. thank you!

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Juju's avatar

Doesn’t long term use of ibuprofen affect the liver or something?? I can’t remember if it was liver or kidneys but it should not be used regularly.

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-TobeorNottobe-'s avatar

I believe it’s the stomach. Stomach cancer I think?

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kittynana's avatar

@Jen- ibuprofen is a cousin to aspirin. Doctors don't want to chance bleeding in a pregnant mommy.

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Cookie Dee's avatar

I don’t believe Ibuprofen lowers fever, that is why its not brought up

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Jaci's avatar

Ibuprofen and Tylenol are the same thing.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Nice find!

And this is from last year.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Thank you for this article! It definitely answers my question. Everyone here needs to read it!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Exactly! That was the death of the use of children’s aspirin.

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CL Shoemake's avatar

As a retired RN, we were taught to never give Aspirin to patients with cold or flu symptoms, as it could precipitate Reyes Syndrome.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I believe that was the highly successful Tylenol financed campaign to replace aspirin in medical circles.

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NoVA mom's avatar

Yes - used to do preclinical lab work for big pharma…would have been fired if I fudged results…Cvd really opened my eyes to the depths of corruption. Plus - both daughters vx injured due to meningitis vx…thank God my gut said NO to the Cvd poison…no more vx ever in this household. Plus - when did they start making pregnant women get vx?? That did not happen 20 yrs ago when I had my kids.

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shibumi's avatar

You're smarter than a friend of mine. She manages clinical trials for Pfi$er, and is all vaxx all the time. She has even had her dog vaxxed with everything imaginable.

Her son has "long C0VID"-- and we all know what that means-- and she gets C0VID multiple times a year. She's vaxxed with Moderna-- went to the grocery store like everyone else to get it quicker.

You know who has only had C0VID once? My unvaxxed husband and I.

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Jen's avatar

Right?! I keep waiting for it to dawn on the medical fetishists but it never seems to! They get covid again and again! And then they go for more shots! I just don't even know what to say to them that they can't piece it together that the shots are destroying their immune systems.

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shibumi's avatar

If you ask them... it's C0VID, the virus, that has caused their immune system to go haywire.

But most don't put it together at all.

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Jen's avatar

You're right. I saw one such person post the other day that she "trusts the science" and just got another covid booster and it "knocked her flat for 48 hours". Seriously. When did we get so mentally programmed that we stopped listening to our body trying to tell us something?

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NoVA mom's avatar

I had to change doctors to get an exemption for my daughter going into college….our ped dr of 15 yrs refused. Found a functional med Dr - no issues. But the old office called the new dr to warn them we were dr hopping to get an exemption!! How dare they! I wonder how many kids they injured by forcing that poison! So wish I found Turtles All the Way Down sooner….i never would have vxd them. 😞

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

During covid, my ex daughter in law, asked me if she should get the shot. I told her only if she wanted a child with issues. Her husband was in the military & took a shot. She miscarried.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Hard to "like" your comment.

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John A George's avatar

Yes, other apps have a choice of responses available. I'd have used the sad face...

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NoVA mom's avatar

Exactly - sorry for her.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Jen, I think you hit it right on the head there. I don’t trust anything that the pharmaceutical world says. I have probably been an anti-VAXer for 30 years. Unaware that I was, until Covid. I never got the flu shot after I got sick from it. Plus, seeing all the people who had Gillian beret after flu shots really was the kicker.. (artificial intelligence is typing this please excuse the misspelled words). Not only is Tylenol toxic to infants, but it causes liver failure, and doses supposedly of 3000 mg a day. I haven’t owned a bottle of Tylenol, probably in 25 years.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I used to get sick every time my husband got the flu shot, yearly in the military. I was constantly told that it’s impossible to get sick from getting the flu shot and insanely impossible for getting sick when he got one. My husband stopped telling me when he got one. I still got sick and then he was like … HMM

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Lori's avatar

same in dogs and cats.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Swine flu shot hurt many people w this

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AM Schimberg's avatar

I went from super pro-vax to completely anti-vax.

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Noi Helmick's avatar

I went from vax hesitant to hell no, never again, Along with an all-stop on any more mammograms and colonoscopies ever again. Dumped my heartburn pills and take a shot of baking soda only when needed.

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John A George's avatar

Bravo!

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Same

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Carrie's avatar

I’ve had all vaccines offered to me (I’m 55) most of my life. Notably, when I started medical school, hepatitis b series was relatively new. We all felt like we were special to get it earlier than others could… uggh.

Several years prior to covid, I started to be annoyed by the pressure put on nurses by employers to get flu shots (I heard cases discussed on talk shows), thinking, my goodness isn’t a nurse educated and capable of making his/her own decision🤷‍♀️. I would inconsistently get the flu shot (fortunately no adverse effects), but knew it didn’t work. Unfortunately, the mantra was “you may not need it to protect yourself, but you spend lots of time around vulnerable people…bla bla bla.”

Ironically, in early 2020, when they started discouraging travel, that was the trigger. I decided to not discuss anything personal with peers (including my leisure pursuits or personal medical decisions). For example, going out of state to visit my mom would be a pandemic sin requiring special testing to re enter society. I was also disgusted and adamantly vocally opposed to the non pharmacological interventions like shutdowns and mass masking, so of course I was not going trust public health recommendations.

That carried over to vaccine discussions. Everyone was abuzz talking about it in anticipation of its arrival. They all felt special because we were highest priority to receive it. I thought there’s no way I was getting that jab. I had seen research from past attempts at a coronavirus vaccine that caused enhanced infection and higher mortality. I thought I could set an example for others, by answering questions about my vax status by saying, “ I keep my personal health decisions private.” Maybe people would feel less peer pressured if they just kept private matters private. People acted like that was the most odd thing to keep my health information private.

Now, I’m definitely vax skeptic, probably full blown anti vax. Reading Turtles.., doubtful that even the smallpox or polio vaccines were even necessary. Never getting a flu shot. If I had a child now, would not get a single vaccine.

Sorry so long winded.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

👏👏👏

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Lori's avatar

You should have watched the rest on your laptop from the White House, the rest was fantastic to listen to especially when Trump starting talking about jabs. Music to my ears.

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Jen's avatar

Thank you! I'll go back and watch

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Robin Esau's avatar

Bad call from Fox. Again, shows who they bow the knee to. The more they divert us from the real news, the more curious we become - or should become.

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Jen's avatar

Yeah I really should know better. They’re owned by leftists now. I generally don’t watch Fox. I should’ve picked a different platform to watch it.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

But there was a big announcement last week that the more conservative of the Murdoch brothers, Lachlan, will be taking over control of Fox/Newscorp. So we shall see. I watch and listen to them like a hawk and when they start emitting Leftist noises, I change the channel. When Bret Baier started mouthing Democratic talking points about Kash Patel, a la Schiff, I changed the channel. I rarely watch his show anyway.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I saw that hopeful news. The leftist siblings were bought out at a billion dollars a piece.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Brett has been leftist for a long time; going back to the first Presidential debate Trump was in. He and Megyn Kelly thought they would knock DJT out of the race that night back in 2016.

Instead, Trump answered “Only Rosie O’Donnell!” to Megyn’s opening gotcha question, the audience went rolling in the aisles and the rest is history.

Megyn was teachable and learned. Brett is not and never has.

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Juju's avatar

I enjoy watching them but I watch knowing I’m only getting part of the story and I get the rest from my alternate sources like RAV and Jeff and other Substacks, and X. Most of the Fox hosts try hard to get the truth through but have shackles on them. I watch understanding their predicament.

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KCwoofie's avatar

I watch a lot of the congressional hearings and press conferences on C-SPAN. they don’t have annoying talk overs either.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Except C-SPAN is operated by Lefties. They are just more subtle than the usually suspects.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

RN here and antivax! Been over 10 yrs since I got the shingles vaccine and then started with autoimmune symptoms. My pcp doesn’t even bother asking me anymore if I want a flu shot🤢. lol. At 60 she said I’m doing quite well at my last checkup 💪🏻

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I'll bet your not a tictoc nurse either.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Also these same people who say the food is the reason they’re healthier (and not the vaxxes) are rabidly against raw milk 🤷‍♀️🙄

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I like the WH live broadcasts on YouTube. No cutting off mid sentence. https://m.youtube.com/@WhiteHouse/streams

https://m.youtube.com/@WhiteHouse/featured

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Jen's avatar

Thank you!

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Lori's avatar

yes, full on anti jab here. never again.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Similar with pet shots. Another huge scam industry.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I honestly believe some of this has been going on already under the radar. Have you noticed how many foods are just coming out with no artificial colors no artificial flavors no artificial preservatives. Either that was very fast for them all to change their recipe so quickly or they’ve been working on it for a while. Which is my guess I believe everything is being slow rolled for those on the slow boat.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

MAHA makes everything so much better.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Whoo-Hoo 🙌🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

I noted that J&J's timing of dumping Tyenol in 2023, as a "spinoff" company was suspect as well.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The same J&J that put asbestos in baby powder.

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Robin Esau's avatar

😳

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Bruce Hartnett's avatar

Newsmax showed the whole thing!

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

It has become clearer and clearer, especially for babies and the elderly, that it is really all about the money.

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Tonya's avatar

CUOMO: “So Harvard does a review of previous studies... and they came up with what I would term as a split decision in favor of studies that found that Tylenol may have an association with negative effects, including potential forms of autism.”

MAKARY: “This research is NOT a split decision as you described. TWENTY-SEVEN studies found an association between prenatal use of acetaminophen and autism. There were thirteen studies that went the other way, but the authors concluded that higher quality studies FAVORED an association.

“And if I can just quote the dean of the Harvard School of Public Health, my former institution: ‘There is a CAUSAL relationship between prenatal acetaminophen and the neurodegenerative disorders of ADHD and autism spectrum disorder.’”

https://substack.com/@vigilantfox/note/c-158893279?r=rktkg&utm_source=notes-share-action&utm_medium=web

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Thanks Tonya. I also read this Stack from Dr. Paul Alexander who shared this from John Leake. Paul thinks the whole Tylenol thing is a deflection from the real cause, the vaccines.

https://open.substack.com/pub/palexander/p/john-leake-has-finally-grown-the?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

That’s what I think too. Earlier on Jenna’sSide Substack that the Tylenol connection to autism is one of the strands Kennedy is using to make the rope with which to hand ALL vaccines.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I should clarify: Alexander is always angry; rather, I see a carefully crafted strategy where Alexander sees a conspiracy to silence.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Yes, Paul is a fierce warrior for what he believes. He does not back down.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I’m not a fan; his emotions are always in the way of his being rational.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I wrote something very similar as well. That spotlight should’ve went to vaccines— not Tylenol: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-missed-opportunity-tylenol-does

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I agree, but you have to realize a lot of people are not informed about vaccines and have no idea there are 4 or 5 vaccines in one shot, especially older people. They think kids are getting 3 or 4 shots like we did when we were kids.

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shibumi's avatar

I *suspect* that this slow rollout is to keep people from going batsh*t crazy. People love their "miracle meds" and believe that they will keep them from dying. So... just roll the info out slowly.

That being said, I have a liberal friend who is frothing at the mouth because Trump/RFK jr said something bad about Tylenol. It's safe! It's effective! They are hurting babies! RFK jr is NOT a doctor, he should not be making any of these decisions!!!!!!!!!!!!!

She's in her mid-60s. If she's frothing crazy over this, I can only imagine some pregnant women going batsh*t crazy.

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Tonya's avatar

But if she's in her mid-60s, she should be able to remember (or maybe not if she took the covid shots) when women were cautioned against taking ANY medication during pregnancy unless absolutely necessary.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Baby steps, I understand.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree.

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JW's avatar

With the suspicious nature of Tylenol, I'd like to see a study on the possibility it can also affect the brain to cause dementia or Alzheimers. My mother had dementia and used Tylenol exclusively as a pain reliever. Maybe a correlation between the rising dementia patients and the release of Tylenol in the 50's would be worth looking at.

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Tonya's avatar

With just a cursory look for research on the topic, it's easy to see how studies are designed to find a specific outcome, or the titles, abstracts, or conclusions don't necessarily fit with what was actually done in the study.

One study is purely correlation — which is fine, by the way, to look for patterns and then investigate what may be causing the patterns, but not conclusive. The title was Tylenol and Dementia alzheimer's type - a phase IV clinical study of FDA data. The data show that “Dementia alzheimer's type is reported as a side effect among people who take Tylenol (acetaminophen), especially for people who are female, 60+ old, have been taking the drug for 10+ years also take Benadryl, and have Rheumatoid arthritis.” https://www.ehealthme.com/ds/tylenol/dementia-alzheimer-s-type/

Another study [Acetaminophen Boosts Activity Levels in Dementia] claims to show that acetaminophen improves symptoms in Alzheimer's patients, but that title is misleading. What it really shows is that pain relief is correlated with symptom improvement. “Overall, the study results support the contention that pain dampens dementia patients' activity and restricts their engagement with the environment, while prophylactic treatment of that pain reverses these effects.” https://www.caringfortheages.com/article/S1526-4114(06)60054-1/fulltext

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JW's avatar

Interesting. Thanks for sharing this article. My mother had arthritis, migraines and was very active prior to those maladies. Tylenol was her first choice and dementia started not too much later.

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Tonya's avatar

Tylenol interferes with the body's ability to detoxify. Tylenol plus any other toxin is worse than just Tylenol alone. Vaccines and prescription medications are being used by more of the population than ever before, and that spells disaster.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

As I read through news of Charlie Kirk’s life, death and his memorial service the other day, he is most commonly referred to as a “conservative political commentator." I find that so demeaning. He was so much more. I am not comparing, but as I think about our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ’s time here on earth with us, I can’t help but draw parallels. Why is it that we only think of prophets and apostles in Biblical terms? Did they stop living among us after Christ’s death and resurrection? I truly believe that God put Charlie here among us for the purpose that he served, namely to lead us back from the desert. He showed us how to bring young people back to Christian Faith, especially young men. Even his killer was a young man that Charlie wanted to save. I prefer to think of Charlie as an Apostle, spreading the love and forgiveness of Christianity that is the true salvation of us all.

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Susan Seas's avatar

It is not lost on me that Kirk is a Church in Celtic nations 😊

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Freebird's avatar

Great comment Bill. Charlie truly did show the way in turning young people around. His Turning Point name was perfect in so many ways.

I pray for his mission to continue and I believe it will because his work started a fire among the youth and it will spread! God knows. I take the view that when a powerful, influential servant of God dies young, it is simply because their work on earth was done. He finished what he was here to do. It reminds me of great talents like Keith Green (28) and Rich Mullins (42).

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Yes, because for most news outlets, mentioning the Christian faith is like bringing a bouquet of garlic to a vampire party. They are godless and want everyone else to be. Except the Muslims. It is easier for them to lie and the pull their constant sleazy tricks if they don't have a conscience. Must have been torture for them to listen to the testifying that took place at Kirk's memorial service.

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WouldHeBearIt's avatar

Should people who cheer the death of Charlie Kirk be silenced? The answer is an emphatic NO.

Why?

El Gato Malo explains it succinctly:

"... the free speech of odious people is the greatest boon that they could ever give to the rest of us.

The cure for awful speech is a soap box and an audience...

... I don't think there's ever been a time in human history when reprehensible people were so keen to make their moral failings known.

They might as well be dousing themselves in fluorescent paint and dancing under black-lights;

Let them.

It's better to know who they are."

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I do not want to sit next to someone at work who cheered the violent death of Charlie Kirk.

And I do not want to be treated by some health care worker who cheered the violent death of Charlie Kirk. Guess they were absent that day when "do no harm" was taught.

And, I do not want anyone to be exposed to an educator that cheers violent death on social media.

It is a question of safety at this point. Hostile work environment. Workplace violence.

Talk to anyone in Risk Management. Once an entity has been warned about a potentially dangerous employee, their liability just shoots through the roof if they do nothing.

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WouldHeBearIt's avatar

Well, if you don't want to associate with these people, isn't it important to know who they are? That's the point - they're not hiding anymore, nor do we want to drive them back into hiding.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yes, it is important to know who they are.

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Carolyn's avatar

I understand but silencing it is not the answer. But speech is a choice which has consequences just like every other action. So firing them is just. They fired the people who refused the vaxs, the masks, and silenced the ones who spoke out..and we know that was not right. They had the right to their opinions even if the left didn't like or agree with it. So the reverse is true also. They have a right to their opinions even if we on the right don't like it. But there are consequences and they are getting those consequences handed to them.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Good explanation - thanks!

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shibumi's avatar

There is a problem regarding "hostile work environment." It's sort of similar to the situation in the UK when a person gets assaulted by a Muslim and the person assaulted gets arrested.

It's more than likely that the "HR person" is a woman of a certain age who is liberal to crazy liberal. If you complain to HR about feeling unsafe, it's very easy for them to turn it against you and make your life even worse.

I don't want to sit next to these people either, but the workplace can be tricky. I worked at a local tv station for 15 years, and there were a handful of conservatives. When politics come up, it can be unpleasant, since your co-workers can gang up on you. That's just how it is working with liberals. Either you suck it up or you leave.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I was stunned by the level of vitriol and talk of violence posted by those people on social media.

It was as if the oxygen was sucked out of my lungs.

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Lori's avatar

Turek said on an interview that Charlie still had a pulse when they got to the hospital. The dreaded thought I had was the staff knew who he was, wheeled him away and did not try to save him.

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mspring's avatar

Having seen the video, and read about the wound, i'm pretty sure that no amount of heroic effort would have recovered him, so i recommend not worrying about that issue. Other more important things to ponder and act on.

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Lori's avatar

one never knows, miracles do happen.

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Kathy's avatar

I have heard from some of the people who were rushing him to the hospital that they realize that he was actually gone at that time. The hospital managed to briefly restart his heart, but of course there was just too much rapid blood loss.

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Lori's avatar

or so the hospital staff says....if you trust them.

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Cookie Dee's avatar

It only takes 90 seconds to bleed out if the Carotid is shot. No chance he was still alive.

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Lori's avatar

they had a pulse.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Working at a level 1 Trauma Center, I have ZERO fears of that happening. They would have done everything possible to help anyone rolling in the door!

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Lori's avatar

Glad you have confidence Carol. I do not.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Well said. another reason why free speech must remain so. Look at Europe where people are being arrested for "mispronouning" or calling out migrant rapists.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I agree, and if you noticed, there were no calls for government to silence these idiots. It was done as self preservation, especially for the corporate ones. If you have a nurse in a hospital setting, stupid enough to put it’s “values” on the inter web for all to see, and someone points that out to its boss, and boss fires it, the that’s how it should work. She was free to express her hatred,and the bass was free to express their common sense. That’s not infringing, that’s common sense. Kimmel? Who cares?

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GregWA's avatar

Very well said!

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Tim R's avatar

I think it is great that Kimmel is going back on air! Disney continues to blow tens of millions of dollars on something nobody watches, hence hastening their own demise. And the added benefit that Gato discusses of seeing so plainly who supports this insanity.

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GregWA's avatar

IIRC, being designated as a terrorist organization, domestic or otherwise, enables certain USG agencies to act in ways they couldn't otherwise. Whereas without that designation, their hands are tied by law. I'm thinking Patriot Act and related post-911 laws and policy changes that allowed greater coordination between intelligence agencies and law enforcement. I suspect this designation for Antifa enables those agencies to go after foreign ties (Soros!). We can hope!

And on a related but different topic, isn't it time we repealed the Patriot Act and other alleged laws to go after terrorists but that have actually only been used to increase surveillance of US citizens here at home? Or do I have all that wrong?

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Michael Miller's avatar

Don't you love Machiavellian names for legislation that convey the opposite of their actual effect? Isn't Government great?

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RunningLogic's avatar

“Affordable Care Act” 😑

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Jeff S's avatar

Inflation Reduction Act, too.

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Tom's avatar

It's luciferian reversed speech. It's occult magick.

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Michael Miller's avatar

I meant Orwellian! :)

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Tamara Summers's avatar

They both work.

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Jeff S's avatar

supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I learned that song in 6th grade. Now they probably teach Bella Ciao.

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Jeff S's avatar

Great hymn. Fun movie.

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Kathy's avatar

I remember years ago there was a “Healthy Trees Act” which allowed them to cut down some of the giant redwoods.

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Robin Esau's avatar

Mike Benz and Andy Ngo say declaring them as an international terrorist org is the key. Hope that announcement is next!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I think you are right.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’m thinking part of this Antifags declaration means when they come looking for trouble, we the people won’t be dragged into court if we accidentally assassinate one or twelve.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It seems they offer many opportunities for their targeted, potential victims to engage in justifiable self-defense. Until active self-defense becomes the norm we can count on them to push it as far as they will be allowed.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Well, applying the logic of your comments, maybe we should leave the Patriot Act in place until Antifa and Transtifa have been taken down.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

As long as Pam Bondi isn't expected to do anything to them

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Laura Kasner's avatar

From another post this morning:

“Trump is using Tylenol as the gateway drug to expose vaccines for causing autism.”

I agree

Oh. And I texted Jesse Watters last night:

Jesse - why didn't you cover the part of the announcement today that also implicates the childhood vaccines as the cause of autism?

Oh wait. I know. Your big pHarma sponsors forbade it.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Fox is deep state.

Poor Jesse Watters.

Used to enjoy him.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Fox forced their employees to take the covid DeathVax or be fired.

Fox also took money from the Biden regime to push the covid DeathVax.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Founder Murdoch funded by the Freemasons, Zionists, Bankers etc.

That's why Carlson was dumped.

Miss the old Watters

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shibumi's avatar

Old man Murdoch was a fan of Hillary and started a conservative station to make $$$$. It was not about ideology. His kids run it now.

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Jeff S's avatar

At least he has nice hair.

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Robin Esau's avatar

I'd feel sorry for him, but he chose/chooses to sell his soul. Just like how he said last night that it's okay not to forgive, in total defiance to the Word.

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Juju's avatar

Jesse is not deep state but he IS limited by his overlords. He does the best he can with the bit in his mouth. If he were to disobey them he’d be off the air for good. I’d rather he stay on the air trying to get through whatever he can when he can.

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btloms3's avatar

How about this from Kilmeade? They didn’t miss a beat in their “analysis”…

https://open.substack.com/pub/sagehana/p/fox-news-anchor-brian-kilmeade-advocates?r=59q5mj&utm_medium=ios

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Neocon central. Kilmeade especially. Used to love am radio. Now, not at all. The guys that took rushes spot? Kilmeade, before,hannity after. Can’t stand any of them. But Joe pagliarullo comes on and hes great. And savage? None better.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

First they came for the homeless, sorry, unhoused".

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btloms3's avatar

A nice touch was the conspiracy “nut job” angle/association…a twofer.

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Freebird's avatar

You nailed that one Laura, if it weren’t for pharma, there would be almost no advertisements at all!

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

Could not love this anymore & you too sissy ♥️

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Love you more Sissy

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Katie Brewer's avatar

Good morning from Georgia! ☀️ I’ve been waiting on Jeff to give us an overview of yesterday’s autism announcement! Stayed away from all the mainstream media reporting; they’re a bunch of pharma shills

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JW's avatar

Hello back from N. GA!

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JW's avatar

If you are in Georgia, GO VOTE today. Dickerson for the vacant senate seat.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Hi from southeast GA! 👋 I’ve been waiting for this synopsis as well. I watched the announcement live but Jeff always fills in the blanks 👏

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GregWA's avatar

I'm not an "expert" in biology, obviously, but I think our over-estimation of biological sciences is a lot of what's behind our problems in "Big Pharma".

I find it amazing that we call it "science" when 27 studies go one way and 13 go another way. If this were science, it would be 39:1 and the 1 would be an obvious piece of crap study.

So, whenever the so-called experts of medical "science" come out with new advice or conclusions, take it with a grain of salt, apply common sense, and do what your Grandmother advised!

As a lifelong professional chemist I view the "S" of STEM as chemistry, physics, and a few others. Biology is in a separate category since biological systems are so complex and challenging to understand compared to where we are in chemistry and physics understanding. We are a long way from being able to fully describe the physical and chemical mechanisms behind even the simplest organisms let alone animals or human beings.

It's way too soon to abandon Grandma's advice!

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Tom's avatar
Sep 23Edited

Biology is not a science at all, when they abandon their own standards of using valid placebos and assessing long term all-cause mortality and morbidity.

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Jeff S's avatar

My mean NY Nana would have slapped them all silly.

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richardw's avatar

Now that Trump’s against it, expect purple hair moms to rush their kids to the pedo-trician for as many shots as possible. You think I’m kidding?

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Gail W's avatar

If so, I am sad for their kids. But the only upside is that it seems to me that the most radical fringe left part of the population is not able to reproduce so hopefully it will die out in the next ~15 years, give or take.

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Freebird's avatar

True, or they’ve aborted their babies so the number of children the left has are probably not so many.

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shibumi's avatar

Just going to throw t his out there for thought: I've heard -- as far as I know, there are no studies on this-- that abortion is one of the triggers for breast cancer later in life.

A simple rumor, no proof, but I find it... interesting.

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Freebird's avatar

I’ve heard that many times but it’s something that no one wants to talk about. I personally know of two women who experienced this. One of them died from a recurrence of breast cancer after she got the vax. They were both Christian women who carried a terrible load of guilt from having had an abortion. So tragic!

And there have been studies, but they’re hidden. I believe it was James Dobson that I heard speak of this a long time ago.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

(Un)Natural Selection…sadly. Poor kids.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I said the same to myself, all to the children’s detriment. 😕

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Graphite's avatar

And consuming tylenol pills like candy 🍬 🤪

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

And feeding them bottles of Tylenol.

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WP William's avatar

Kimmel isn't in a concentration camp in South Sudan after being kidnapped by Fascist Feds??? Wow, thank godless the mass outcry saved him! A true patriot and future Medal of Freedom recipient for sure!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Tim Walz said that the Kimmel kerfuffle was “North Korean stuff.”

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Free in Florida's avatar

It would be so pleasant - for just one time - for something rational to come out of Tim Walz’s mouth. He’s despicable.

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Jake's avatar

He's not wired like a normal person. The Chinese use him as a hand puppet as well. As a born and bred rural Minnesotan living in Texas I'm asking my state to please reject that asshats run for a third term. I'm praying for a Charlie Kirk effect from the college students in Minneapolis to make this right

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

It’ll never happen. 😬

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Margot Wooster's avatar

“But GOD…”. Never say never!

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AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Pete Buttigieg is rational???

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WP William's avatar

Yes, he's CCP's #1 fan, N. Korea is far too isolationist in its Communist export and influence for his Progressive White-Privileged tastes

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

You sure?

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WP William's avatar

He can one day plan to throw his medal into the Potomac River in disgust like John Kerry did his Purple Heart.

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Johnny-O's avatar

To all the people cheering that the moron squad antifa being deemed "domestic terrorists:

Section 1021a of the patriot act (that our wonderful congress and all presidents keep signing into law, despite it being challenged in court due to its blatant lack of constitutionality) - the act deems it legal for the government to lock up, indefinitely, without trial, ANYONE deemed as a "terror" suspect. These laws get normalized, and soon the proud boys, coffee coviders, etc, can and eventually will be deemed terrorists by future administrations. It's a very dangerous precedent. We already have laws on the books to deal with these idiots.

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Jeff C's avatar

Lol, dangerous precedent. You act as if the left will only engage in bad behavior if the right does it first. We've seen over and over the left doesn't care, they will use any weapon at their disposal no matter how the right behaves.

This "dangerous precedent" talk is abject nonsense. That precedent was long ago passed when the left decided to ruthlessly hunt down J6'ers, attempt to throw PDJT and all his associates in jail, and destroy the lives of anyone who supported Trump.

What this "dangerous precedent" talk really means is that the right is not allowed to fight back. At some point people need to start thinking for themselves and questioning why so many supposedly on our side are telling us we aren't allowed to use the most effective tools in stopping the left.

The only thing that stops a bully is to punch him back harder than he hit you. It doesn't matter if it's against one's "principles" to hit people, it's the only thing that works. And principles are worthless if their end result is that people helplessly get the crap beat out of them.

The country was on the verge of falling to the left, just a few short years ago. Weren't you here, don't you remember that? The only thing that stopped it was Trump not caring about "dangerous precedents" and pushing forward. Tom Massie giving speeches and voting with the Democrats on "principle" didn't accomplish jack squat.

Maybe we worry less about some abstract dangerous precedents and focus on the fact the left wants to kill us.

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Lori's avatar

hence, locked and loaded.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you 👏👏👏

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Johnny-O's avatar

I would laugh out loud too - if were actually funny.

Again, there are already laws on the books to deal with antifa morons - the only purpose of these new laws is to normalize the state taking more rights. What mental gymnastics must one engage in to try to refute that very basic and salient point?

If you are willing to give up security for freedom - you deserve neither.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Precedent? Fucking Biden locked up how many American patriots after 6 Jan? Relying on exactly what you pointed out. However, the only ones doing the damage,and the troubles on that day, were fbi, cia, and other government tools. But Antifags does no good,they are brown shirts for the deep state. Kill a dozen, and they will scatter like the roaches they are.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Can you please reference where protestors from that day were actually charged with terrorism and the NDAA section was used to prosecute? I don't think your statement is accurate. There are ALREADY laws to deal with this. Why can't people see and understand this?

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

And the minute any one of us kills one of the terrorists is self defense, the media will explain to us what a darling they were with pics of them holding kittens and such. At least now we can eliminate them in self defense and the media can try and paint them as peaceful protesters, and get the Kyle treatment. Do you ever approve of anything?

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Johnny-O's avatar

I tend not to kill people.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

You didn’t answer my question.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

There in lies the problem, ma’am. They couldn’t even charge them, just locked them up. And say to the nation, we can use many different ways to prosecute them. And then never charging half of them. Seems to me there are some charges to be filed regarding that as well coming soon. But no they didn’t officially use the patriot act. That would have required work and skilled lawyers. They have creeps like jack smith.

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Gail W's avatar

I tend to agree with you.

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