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UPDATE

I probably should have said it in the post.

The cat (and her kittens) were fine. Getting mauled caused me to back off and rethink my strategy, which I should have done to start with. I then used a garden hose to break up the fight. Momma kitty was not completely fine, but fully recovered. Kittens untouched.

Jeff got stitches and some quality learing about thinking first, then acting.

MC's avatar

Thank you 🙏🏻 for doing your Paul Harvey duty and telling the rest of the story. That was a cliff hanger I would be waking up wondering the outcome for months in future. And the garden hose strategy was brilliant! 😉

Torrance Stephens's avatar

I was raised on Paul Harvey, good day.

BTW, anyone hear about the 61-year-old housekeeping supervisor from Cottage Grove, Wisconsin, was shot and killed in a downtown Madison parking ramp last week after being targeted by a former coworker for supporting President Donald Trump.

https://www.cityofmadison.com/police/incident-reports/2026-03-22/woman-killed-in-shooting-on-w-washington-ave

melinda's avatar

Ugh! Is it normal practice now to use they/their instead of he/she… or is it just a Madison thing? (Madison=Red Square West)

M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

I tried a similar type heroic intervention when I was 12 but it was between my dog and a similar sized canine. Outcome? I can still see the bite scar on the back of my hand at 69 while the fight raged on despite my efforts. My dog Jake fared just fine however when they both finally tired of the fracas and called it a draw.

Jen Brown's avatar

“Quality learing!” 😂😂😂You are on your A-game today!

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Your acerbic wit was at its ZENITH today - you actually had me hearty "har har'ing" throughout most of it, J. C.

DANKE - laughter is indeed the BEST medicine--and it's totally FREE!!

Glad the kitty kats survived without a scratch (probably not so much, YOU!!)

JEHOVAH JIREH--He HAD, He DOES, He SHALL!

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Sharon, I suspect "But I have always been under the impression that the Secret Service is composed of highly skilled people who can hit a moving target from three miles away while reciting the Preamble to the Constitution backward in Old English." clicked on to the word processor without even thinking about it. LOL.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm just thrilled to have learned about Jeff Childers in the midst of the DEMONratic activity in late 2021. It has provided me with valuable info that I NEVER would have found on legacy media sources AND given me HOPE and JOY exchanging comments and information with fellow believers in Yeshua--the only begotten Son of YAHWEH!!! God breathed and the creation of what we know as "this world" began!! Think about that!!

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Amen, Sharon! Well said. By the way, I continue to pray for your grandson, Christian.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Oh, John--this remark about my beloved grandSON, Christian, encourages me SO MUCH. I pray for him constantly - and am working on a birthday collage which I plan to frame in a 8" x 10" frame and send to him for his 22nd birthday. He is the "middle child" for my youngest son--and has always been a sweet person - I had NO IDEA he was being attacked by the "great deceiver" through the "gamers" that he has 'known' since he was about 7 or 8 years old (most of them are from Sweden - Christian adored the "Minecraft" video game and that was created by a Swedish game 'wizard' - you know, Sweden is the most "liberal" thinking country when it comes to sexual idealogue--I have always considered Sweden (based on their movies and books) to be very DEPRESSED people--but they think they are "happy". Irony at its worst--isn't it, John!!

Again...thank you for praying for Christian - he surely needs to turn AWAY from gaming and TOWARD Yeshua - the ONLY route to TRUE JOY is through His nail-scarred hands - reach for Him and leaving the 'old mindset and will' behind. Crucify self and find TRUE JOY AND LIFE ETERNAL!

I might add--if you haven't seen the post of mine from 2 weeks ago - the new movie "A Great Awakening" produced, directed and starring local actors from the Lancaster, PA area....and production of "Sight & Sound Productions" division of the "Sight & Sound Theatre". It is truly ENCOURAGING about the special friendship between PASTOR GEORGE WHITEFIELD and BEN FRANKLIN. Please check out your local movie theaters to see if its playing in your area - it will be playing AROUND THE COUNTRY THROUGHOUT THIS WEEK! I saw a "special screening" of it yesterday in Lancaster---here's the offiicial trailer. SHARE IT with your friends and family, por favor!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H4-rMC88ylQ

TiredCitizen's avatar

Thank you. You know, Jeff, we were more concerned about the animals.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for the update and thank you also for including “learing time” in there, it made me laugh once more, which I especially appreciate today! 😊

Amy Usher's avatar

Quality learing? ❤️

Mary Fisher's avatar

The phrase that is Minnesota’s gift to the decade. 😂

Full Name's avatar

Norman Lear would make a TV series about this were he still living...

cat's avatar

Thanks for the clarification. The Sharpie ink was drying on my protest sign when I saw your pinned update.

Lori's avatar

You are a great man even more so for putting yourself between a mama and a large dog. So glad to hear the cat family made it through.

A.'s avatar
29mEdited

Well...that might just be a story to pump-up Jeff's PR profile. He knew how it would be interpreted, of course. This is a business, after all. And I wasn't born yesterday.

Aren't Christians supposed to be humble and not self-congratulatory?

RunningLogic's avatar

Six years ago today, my 53 year old brother was killed by the lockdowns. It was egregious medical neglect, and because of “keeping everyone safe”, no one was allowed to come in and help him or advocate for him. He died alone in awful circumstances. I will never forget what they did to my family 😡😡😡

And to those who are inclined to complain that this post isn’t relevant to Jeff’s roundup for today—go fly a kite, I don’t give a flying fig what you think. It will ALWAYS be relevant to post about the harm those monsters did using Covid as an excuse!!

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

I no longer work in clinical hands on/hospitals- but as a registered nurse when I saw that they left people ALONE with no family and TO DIE ALONE??? I got sick to my stomach. Makes me angry to think about what KIND OF SICK PEOPLE are living among us. Very sorry for your loss. Keep reminding everyone all the time. 👍

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you ❤️ And I appreciate your compassion as a nurse—I find it unconscionable, how many people in healthcare seemed to be perfectly ok with this!!

A.'s avatar
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RL, your hair would curl if you realized what is going on in Canada in terms of compassion-less "medicine" Both as unlimited abortion (to the moment of birth) since 1988, and as state-assisted suicide known as MAID. Both are eugenics programs.

MAID has reached over 100,000 victims now since 2016. In a population of under 40 million.

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

Whenever someone insists that "real communism hasn't been tried", point them to what Canada is doing with MAiD and the C9 bill. They've already extended advocating MAiD for "mental illnesses"; if they finish passing C9, what's to stop them from declaring those who violate that act as mentally ill, just like they did to dissidents in communist countries?

MariaABC's avatar

As it stands now you have to be 18 years or older for MAiD but they, meaning the Gov't, are in active discussion to include "mature minors" in their eugenics program. And even more shocking to me, is that there are citizens who think that this is a great idea. But then these are the same people who believe that children can decide what gender they want to be and are entitled to hormone blockers, ect., to realize this fantasy. And should they choose, the mutilation of their bodies. God have mercy on this nation. With regards to Bill C-9, it's interesting that it refers to "Scripture" only. Does that mean that quoting from the Quran is acceptable? I have my own ideas on this, as it appears that all Christ followers are considered enemy's of the Gov't now. But it did my heart good to see some MP's in the House of Parliament vote against this evil bill with their Bibles in their hands.

A.'s avatar

I can tell you have seen behind the curtain, my friend. As I have.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

BOTH of my parents are buried in Canada and I will not visit their graves (anymore) due to the insanity of that country currently. God forbid you end up in a car accident. Will they force vaccinate you while you’re unconscious? I’ll bet they have the right…. Will they euthanize you if your care proves too expensive? What’s to stop them? Paranoid? Maybe… but I will never underestimate the madness of a bureaucrat with too much authority…

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

Scary 😢😢😢

Porge's avatar

Sorry for your loss RL, they tried to kill me too. I'll never forgive or forget. May we please get some accountability.

Michelle's avatar

Tried to kill me too. 35 days on a ventilator, 2 months total in hospital. 2 days of Remdesivir, after which I refused more, and thankfully they listened. Made husband sign DNR before they would do tracheostomy. I was 49 at the time. Miracle by the grace of God that I survived. Praise God that you are still with us as well!

Oma's avatar

So sorry for your loss💔

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you ❤️

Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Oh believe me, they were much more than just ok with it when they realized the patient was "unvaxed😱". I saw it firsthand.

RunningLogic's avatar

It’s awful 😞

MariaABC's avatar

Yes, I lost a dear friend because she was "unvaxxed". They immediately put her on a ventilator, hooked her up to Remdesivir and left her to die. A friend's Mom left this world the same way for the same reason. We will not forget.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Exactly! Broke so many ethical rules. Why people could not pass with dignity. We will

never know how those people felt or what they thought in the moment. 😭🥹

Jeff McRockets's avatar

This happened to family friend too - the dad was a customer at my parents store when I was a kid, his daughter hung out with us in the old neighborhood. She posted on FB almost daily how cruel the whole ordeal was as her dad died under similar circumstances in PA under democrat rule with that tranny MFer Levin at the helm before SPOTUS (Supposed POTUS) Potato Brain put him/it/“her” in charge of everyone’s health.

RunningLogic's avatar

That’s horrible, I’m so sorry 😞

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

As long as it doesn’t “affect them” most folks just don’t care. It sickens me to no end.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that’s the way a lot of people seem to be 😞

Mary H.'s avatar
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So sorry to read this. God bless you and your family.

A cautionary tale that we all give up a little more freedom with each mandate designed for our “safety”.

Never again.

“Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety”

Benjamin Franklin

RunningLogic's avatar

And I agree about the “safety.” It was a lie and they used fear to control people! I understand so well now why “fear not!” or some version thereof is often repeated in the Bible!

Mary H.'s avatar
3hEdited

Amen! I believe “ fear not” (or something similar)is written 365 times in the Bible, once for each day of the year !

RunningLogic's avatar

For good reason, clearly! God knows what we need!

Lisa Ca's avatar

Absolutely friend!

A.'s avatar

The red flag is when the authority claims very nobly they are doing these things for "Public Safety". That is usually the code for...RUN! Because they have an agenda not in your best interest.

Veranda Vamp's avatar

Yes, and the sleepy-eyed libtards chant—mantralike—“do it for THE GREATER Good.”

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Mary 🙏

Karen's avatar

yep...NEVER forget what they did to us....not only here in the USA, but the world.....Fauci, Gates, their evil pals.....and their "superiors".....

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes we can never let this be forgotten! We need to keep taking about it!

Lisa Ca's avatar

And also all the recent died suddenlies.

Sue Kelley's avatar

It sickens me to think of the dancing nurses videos and the self serving selfies of them exhausted sitting on the floors. These are the nurses of today and the future. Gleefully self promoting while their patients died alone. Shameful

Peace's avatar

And yet Fauci, Gates, and the rest are still living their best lives . . .

A.'s avatar

What you saw was Psychopathy in action. The Globalist Network counts on psychopathic senior leaders to carry out this type of conscience-less agenda.

Most people think of Psychopathy in the Hollywood version of Hannibal Lecter. However, the condition very seldom manifests that way, actually. It is more like the Henry Kissingers of the world.

MOMinator's avatar

May I offer a slightly different version of your very accurate comment?

What you saw was Satan in action. Satan counts on psychopathic senior leaders to carry out this type of conscience-less agenda.

Most people think of Satan in the Hollywood version of Hannibal Lecter. However, the condition very seldom manifests that way, actually. It is more like the Henry Kissingers of the world.

A.'s avatar
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MOMinator, I try to steer clear of the "Satan" terminology because the religious cultists here scream at normal decent people daily that they are all supposedly Satan. They have worn-out that term by misapplying it so often. And trying to deflect from their own bad behaviour.

I am well aware that Psychopathy is a portal for evil into this world. I can even explain to you how the seeds of this condition are planted by adults into innocent children by messing-up the Attachment bond that supplies conscience and the ability for empathy. It is a very convoluted situation, therefore, and hard to apportion blame. I do expect responsibility from these damaged adults, however.

BelleTower's avatar

Except our enemy, the SPONSOR and aggravator of the harm perpetrated against us was literally Satan. Each nurse and doctor who shrugged the shoulders and walked away from the crying children trying to be with their dying parents … EVERY SINGLE ONE … was a little soldier working diligently for literal Satan. I imagine there were a few who refused to play along, I would like to hear their stories, because from where I sit it seems the entire industry politely looked the other way. I have no trust anymore. When I take myself or my children to the doctor (always when I unable to treat us myself), I know each time could end us on ruin. Medical kidnappings and arrogant applications of unwanted interventions … these possibilities haunt me. We do our best to STAY AWAY. Heck in Canada, your old dad who goes in for an antibiotic could be prescribed literal “assisted suicide” (which means MURDER the best I can figure it) and be dead in days. Yes we avoid the best we can.

A.'s avatar

I just don't use the continual "Satan" terminology, because it has been worn out on this C&C and normal people here now just roll their eyes at another cultist screaming that they are supposedly Satan. As they do here every day. For dramatic effect and attention to themselves.

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

I agree with your take, but I wanted to offer something to add to your something you added. 😁 I watch a brilliant lady on YouTube; her channel is called Craft2Christ, and she is a former witch who is sharing her faith journey and giving us a lot of insight on how witchcraft works so we can combat it. She said something very interesting in a recent video that I've been chewing on:

"Temptation is from the enemy, but giving into it is free will".

Some people are born twisted, but for the most part, the enemy can't act without free will and people accepting the temptation he presents (namely, power).

A.'s avatar
2hEdited

Thank you, though I look at evil more as a severe Attachment Disorder in innocent children which can grow into a severe Cluster-B Disorder as an adult. These disordered persons then seek vulnerable targets to play-off.

The trick is to develop a healthy sense of SELF and refuse to be a submissive victim. So you are not the prey to their predator.

That is hard to hear for most people. But hey....I did not design the system of human life. I just tell you how I think it works.

Sue Kelley's avatar

Same. I moved to outpatient and accelerated my plan to retire. I am ashamed of what my profession did to people. Only 99 shifts to go.

RunningLogic's avatar

Hang in there ❤️ Glad to have good ones like you though 🙏

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

RunningLogic's avatar

I think it is an excellent idea! A separate section or book about people whose family and friends suffered from jab issues would also be a good idea I think.

Oma's avatar

A book is a great idea and we at C&C could make sure it made to #1 Best Seller!Never Let Them Forget!!

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

OK, please remind me using DM-- direct messaging. I sent you one, you can reply. . .

Lisa Ca's avatar

I would love this as awful as it is. Its important we do not forget and our children know

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

OK, if you have a personal story, please DM-- direct messaging-- via substack . . .

-- click on my user name: "pretty-red, old guy" and scroll down to messaging menu item. . .

-- then, just Do It! Great.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

OK, if you have a personal story, please DM-- direct messaging-- via substack . . .

-- click on my user name: "pretty-red, old guy" and scroll down to messaging menu item. . .

-- then, just Do It! Great.

Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Well they were busy dancing and posting videos. They didn’t have time for anything else.

RunningLogic's avatar

They were busy doing something, but that something was definitely not taking care of patients 😡

Bitsy54's avatar

My cousin, an MD, called Bovine Excrement early in the days of dancing “healthcare” workers. She said if you truly have multiple emergencies going on, like hospitals did on 9/11, you have no time or energy to choreograph and perform dances; you are mentally and physically exhausted.

Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Oh the hospital who had my daughter in law finally let us visit knowing she was never going to make it ( 3 weeks ). We got to hold her as they removed the ventilator. Will I always have nightmares I wonder.

Juju's avatar

There needs to be a better emoji for a warm hug 🫂

Porge's avatar

Sorry for your loss Barbara.😐

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

So sorry- absolutely heartbreaking and UNNECESSARY- just adds to the pain

Bitsy54's avatar

So sorry for your loss. Prayers for your healing and comfort.

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Barbara, I'm soo sorry you had to experience that. No one should have to have that experience. My heart breaks for you. I can't imagine.😢

RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry Barbara 😞

kara's avatar

My sister left nursing because of everything she experienced during this period. All the free homemade masks and pizza people sent to the hospital couldn't make up for seeing patients suffer and die alone. She uses the term "moral injury" to describe what you all went through.

Dawn Ceylong's avatar

Perfect description- moral injury

RunningLogic's avatar

I appreciate your sister ❤️

kara's avatar

Aw, thank you--I will let her know.

Your story is going to make steam come out of her ears. We need to remind ourselves of what happened so we never forget. I am so sorry for what you went through.

In her section, the nurses were obedient for a while and then realized it was...not a pandemic, So they started to get creative, even literally sneaking loved ones up the back stairs (to say goodbye!! which previously happened on Facetime of all things). Then a manager figured out if they enrolled a patient in hospice, the patient could have in-room visitors (one at a time!!). So they did that, and then discontinued "hospice" as needed.

What a travesty. Several nurses my sister worked with have left the profession since all this.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yes it was an abomination what they did during Covid lockdowns. I know God will judge them.🙏🏻❤️‍🩹

Dave Williamson's avatar

Those people are out trying to assuage their consciences (if they have any) at the No Kings rallies.

Johnny-O's avatar

Trojan Horse Trump's medicaid services paid out handsomely for administration of Remdesivir (run death is near) and ventilators, of course, as well as pushing the deadly clot shot.

RunningLogic's avatar

You couldn’t just say “I’m sorry for your loss” Johnny O? 🙄 My brother wasn’t given remdesivir, it wasn’t even a thing at that point, he didn’t even have Covid, it was completely unrelated. But way to make the post about your agenda 🙄

Johnny-O's avatar

You also made it about your agenda, RL. Just sayin. Sorry about your loss. I imagine every single person here has bad stories about the covid psyop. I know I do.

I still would like accountability so things like this don't happen again, and ignoring the fact that Trump also played a huge role in it won't help to get there.

RunningLogic's avatar

No I didn’t. There was no “agenda” except to mourn the loss of my brother and give a reminder of why it happened. Thanks for stomping all over that though, and for showing the kind of person you really are.

Johnny-O's avatar

Sorry, I'm not going to engage in your petty name calling and will stick to the big topics - like Trojan Horse Trump destroying the country. Big bad me, I know. Mine is somehow an "agenda" and your own personal commentary is not. Okay, if you say so.

JasonT's avatar

Trump 1.0 still believed the Obama administration gave a fig about citizens. He has since been disabused of that notion, thankfully.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

During CVD.. $$$$ was more important.

Silent scorn's avatar

I was thinking this morning about the irony of no kings marches and that whole cluster when under biden we were literally commanded to follow their fake lying orders because Science! And so many people died as a direct result of it. It will always be relevant. NEVER FORGET. Very sorry for your loss 🥲

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We happened to drive through Gettysburg (Pa) Saturday, saw this crowd of people, wondered what on earth? Then saw the signs. Hadn't been aware that this was coming. Husband put his MAGA hat back on, but we aren't driving in a convertible, so no one could see it. There were several street corners, each with its own crowd of crazies. Today wondered about a possiblen correlation between No Kings participation and covid-jab uptake.

Lisa Ca's avatar

100% because they are delusional

On an island's avatar

Definitely brain damaged!

Mary Fisher's avatar

I’ve wondered about the same thing. But most of them were crazy before the clot shots.

Karen Bandy's avatar

True, they were leaving their groceries on the porch for a day, then wiping them off, then bringing them in. Same with Amazon packages. 📦

No more beach trips with the girls, and then 1 year after the vax came out, no girl trips for me ‘the great unvaxxed’.

BelleTower's avatar

My favorite move when driving by the lunatics, is to hold my hand to the side of my face like a blinder. I do not even look at you. You are nonexistent to me.

Linda Whitney's avatar

The irony abounds, Silent. The Left is absolutely blind to their own hypocrisy and ignorance.

When confronted by No Kings virtue signal goblin festivities, I always have to wonder how many of those fools celebrated the assassination of Charlie Kirk last September. These are not simply good people concerned about the well-being of democracy. These are self righteous idiots deeply involved in their TDS and making sure their cult sees their display of hatred.

But they have zero plans for repairing the damage that their permissive progressive policies have done to the country. They're drooling for their return to power and using other people’s money to get back to tearing it all down.

Cabogirl's avatar

All of them for sure cheered the shooting if Charlie Kirk. We can be sure of that.

Linda Whitney's avatar

Sadly true, Cabo. It kills me to know that.

I had already spent several years moving away from the Left. But that single event and the response from the brain addled libs, locked it. I’m done.

I can be courteous to get by but I will never again believe that there is real humanity or ‘empathy' in their agenda.

I’ve lost friends. I don’t care.

Cabogirl's avatar

Lost friends too. All older people

Linda Whitney's avatar

Yes! Strange how the demographics of TDS tend toward the aged and the female. I wonder sometimes if it’s a wish to remain relevant.

Bard Joseph's avatar

We must not mix up psyops and paid crisis actors.

Linda Whitney's avatar

There’s that, but I know some of these people and they aren’t being paid. They're simply gullible and enjoy the opportunity to throw a tantrum because their stupidity has been challenged.

Silent scorn's avatar

Yes… same here. Friends that I didn’t expect were all in on the “virtue signal goblin festivities”.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!! So true. And thank you ❤️

john's avatar

Insider Realities = https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hOpsunua7Bg

Take the time to know the truth and it shall set you free from such sins, disguised as good, which are mostly from the same City-of-London's evil playbook. (per John 8:32)

RunningLogic's avatar

Not even tangentially relevant to my post, but thanks for making it all about your agenda 🙄

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

The no kings protest are mentally ill people, in my humble opinion 😵‍💫

Valerie's avatar

I didn’t know this about your brother (and I’m very sorry to hear it), but I do know that I will go to my grave angry about what happened during Covid, and I’ll be telling my grandkids about what happened so they can be historically aware. Because the worst thing would be when our generation is gone for the kids to think ‘meh, it wasn’t so bad,’ like they seem to be doing with the Holocaust. The real one, I mean.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

I have an old coffee table with glass in top. We put cards and such under it to keep and look at. On my husband’s birthday after his heart surgery the grandkids drew pictures for him. Before his surgery he was put in the closed off scary covid floor. He was so angry about the idea of being there a week waiting that he pulled out his ivs and snuck down the back stairs in his green oregon ducks sweatshirt. I picked him up while the security was searching for him. Was an amazing feat. All the coffee table cards are pictures of his escape. #neverforget

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

I can tell my Hailey Story. I’ll never stop telling it

Porge's avatar

I have a story

RunningLogic's avatar

Love how he was able to sneak out! Good for him!

Juju's avatar
2hEdited

Oh how I WISH we could post photos here to see. That’s an amazing story! Unbelievable that people actually had to try to ESCAPE hospitals!! And all the lawsuits to try to get a hospital to release a loved one. It’s mind blowing that anyone today would think this current administration is the authoritarian one after all THAT.

Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow! That is truly amazing! Brave and bold!!!!

Christine's avatar

Wow! That's awesome!! Good for all of you.

Elizabeth Klein's avatar

Give your husband a hug for me! Brilliant that he was of a mind to do so. Falls under the banner of “We will not comply!” How many would just sit there waiting…! I hope I would be of such a mindset. Never give up!

Lisa Ca's avatar

You are so right about waiting! It really was brave of him. because after major surgery you never know what kind of complications you will have.

i do wonder though hat did his doctor say afterward???? Do tell

MSK's avatar

Good for him. Might have saved his life.

Porge's avatar

Wow! Nice going!

rolandttg's avatar

A former co worker had a similar situation where his wife went in for one thing and ended up captured and covid protocols. And neglected. His entreaties went unanswered. Finally he went in and physically escorted her out. The nurse called security. When he was confronted, he slowly pulled up his shirt. Security put up his hands and walked away. Sadly, the damage had been done, he put her in hospice, and his 60 year marriage was over. Sadly part 2, none of his friends, family, or former co workers, save me, believe they killed her.

Bitsy54's avatar

I’m surprised the nasty doctors did the surgery after he was “exposed” on the outside world to the “deadly cold virus”!

Cabogirl's avatar

Thank goodness your dad snuck out. He’s alive and he wouldn’t have been. Can you imagine this even happening !?!?

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Valerie ❤️ Too many people would rather have us forget!

Kathy Lux's avatar

I am so sorry about your brother. His circumstances are legion. Many people were left to die alone in cold and heartless hospitals. I am a retired RN and I was appalled at the treatment of the dear people in nursing homes as well and was grateful that my own mom had passed several years before this debacle. We were able to be at her bedside. I will never forget and I will be passing this on to my grandkids, as well.

Tonya's avatar

In June of 2020, I was helping to circulate a petition to reign in Gov. Whitmer's overreach, so I met many people who were directly affected by what had been happening, including those who quit their jobs in nursing homes because they couldn't participate in the harms they were causing, and those who kept their jobs in order to be at least one caring soul in the lives of their unfortunate patients. Each person's situation was unique, and I appreciate those who did whatever they could do in good conscience to make things better, not worse, for those poor people.

RunningLogic's avatar

We actually hired nurses who refused the jab and lost their jobs to help out when my mom got sick. So grateful for them!

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

CStone's avatar

That is an excellent idea. But I’m not so sure about ‘capping’ it at 100.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Kathy ❤️ Yes it is such a horrible thing to leave people to die alone, on purpose!! You are right, we need to make sure no one forgets, even though lots of people would like to!

Beckadee's avatar

Covid has been added to the things not to be discussed like politics and religion. Thanks for letting us know about your brother's death. I know you have mentioned him before, and I too would be furious if that happened to any of my family. It was terrible enough to listen to the stories of those affected.

CStone's avatar

Now Finland and Canada have decided that the Scripture is hate speech and will no longer be allowed. So we can now add that to what cannot be discussed.

Beckadee's avatar

Canada is in deep doodoo with Carney and his TDS.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Beckadee ❤️ Yes too many people don’t want to talk about it anymore.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

Valerie's avatar

I’m a massage therapist, I wouldn’t feel right about telling my clients stories. But I hear a LOT. Of all kinds of things, many of which I don’t want to know.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

WOW, I'll bet you hear some things!

IF, by some chance, you find someone purely livid and wanting to tell the world, You could have them write it down, anonymize it, and send to me via DM.

Here is the way:

DM-- direct messaging-- via substack . . .

-- click on my user name: "pretty-red, old guy" and scroll down to messaging menu item. . .

-- then, just Do It! Great.

Porge's avatar

I'll DM you with a story Red....ok?

Valerie's avatar

Oh I know how to DM, I send my husband stuff all the time. 😂 I’ll let you know if I have that situation come up.

Elizabeth Klein's avatar

Please do so! I was relatively unaffected during shutdown which lasted 6 week in AZ. I spent it on vacation paddleboarding on the lakes here. I had no one ill so was not subjected to watching what some went through. I feel this could be a powerful statement for future generations. And also to be used as evidence against those that perpetrated such ideas.

Dr Linda's avatar

I am so sorry to hear this. Screw anyone who think it’s inappropriate.

Someday we all need to write our stories.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Dr Linda ❤️

Maureen ODH's avatar

Must jump in and honor your brothers memory with all herein along with Dr Linda who always offers the appropriate comment… very sorry not only for your brothers loss to you and your family, but that we all should never forget the terror and horror governments did to the very citizens that they exist at all… the safety of their citizens. Never forget Covid, an event and it’s collection of insane so called expert decisions should topple WW2’s description of Pearl Harbor as equal to the day that will be remembered as one of infamy… so too should Covid et al.,

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

We need to learn to listen too.

Valerie's avatar

Will this joke ever get old? I’m thinking naah.

Juju's avatar

❤️❤️❤️😢😢

Big hugs to you today. Just imagining it causes me to start crying with you. It’s heartbreaking anyone had to suffer like that, including the family members. I can’t imagine the agony you all went through at that time. A nauseous pinching in my gut just thinking about it gives me a teensy small taste of the helpless pain you went through.

These no kings rallies are the biggest slap in all our faces.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Juju for your kind words. It’s a terrible “anniversary” every year 😢 The one bright spot is that it served as proof that this whole saccharine drumbeat of “we have to keep people safe” was in fact doing the opposite. On purpose 😡

Jane Tracy's avatar

It’s heartbreaking 💔 I lost my Mom to Covid, locked down in the nursing home. She was ill for 9 days and died alone on Mother’s Day..5/10/2020… a Mom of 8 children.

I too will never forget 😢 and I am so sorry for your loss 😢

Juju's avatar

😢🫂❤️😔😞

Emumundo's avatar

I’m so sorry. What happened to your poor mother was inhumane.

Silent scorn's avatar

Oh my gosh no words 🙏😞

ItsMeAgain's avatar

So sorry for your loss. 😔

RunningLogic's avatar

I’m so sorry 😞 That’s truly awful 😢

And thank you for your condolences ❤️

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

RunningLogic - I am very saddened to hear that, and yes, it is always relevant here. We must never forget.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Dave ❤️

VelvetStitching's avatar

I am VERY sorry for your loss, RunningLogic! I lost my 37 yr old nephew - in January 2022 - and a brother in August same year. 😭 I feel your pain and loss! And NO! I will never forget either!

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you, and I am very sorry for your losses as well 😢💔

I also lost my mom to turbo cancer almost exactly two years after my brother, and then my dad to heart issues another year and a half later (I suspect that was jab related too, but it’s a little more ambiguous). Not to mention friends and colleagues 😞

MarshaLouise's avatar

Yes, so many people were told to orotect themselves, and in the way that meant only to harm them, but they trusted and lives were lost and ruined forever…a horrible “holocaust”. God bless you.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you 🙏 And yes, you are spot on.

VelvetStitching's avatar

I would have checked the heart on your post, but I cannot!

After my nephew passed, his mother died of cancer 18 months later and yes my Dad in 2024. We have parallels, my friend. I grief afresh!

BTW - I watched the trailer link you posted! Yes! I will NEVER forget the Covid LIES and the "cabbage" leadership and unelected enforcers of those years of nonsense!

I have continuing health issues from masking (forced to during flights to and from my family home as my Dad struggled through his end of life) The Lord will heal or strengthen and I rely on Him fully!

BTW - I read all the comments today - and I agree with your post of yesterday - the conversations on C&C have changed! 🥴

Yesterday I dialogued with "A" several times - definitely a bot or invader of some kind, the conversation was nonsense. "A" claimed to be called names and mistreated by we so called Christians.

I think some kind of battle has just ramped up in cyber realm!

Stay safe and may the Lord bless you and keep you! 🙏🏼

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you VelvetStitching ❤️🙏 Yes we have some sad and unfortunate parallels 😞

I got so angry all over again reading that article by the mom who wants to make this movie about the Covid evils!

Definitely can relate to all of the after effects from masking etc. My son (whose school actually tried to be as normal as possible) lost so much especially in reading level due to that whole BS (excuse the “language” but for once I think it’s not inappropriate). I have been homeschooling him and it’s been a struggle to figure out how to get him to the level I think he should be 😕

Agree with you about the comments and the battle. We need to be vigilant.

Gloria Magee's avatar

Check out the Wordly Wise program. I used it homeschooling and also helping other kids that were behind. It’s hard to find a curriculum that fits both teacher and student…. But I wish you luck in that endeavor. It’s horrible what they did to adults and families and I’m so sorry for all the losses you and your family experienced but what they did to our innocent children will reap the wrath of God.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Gloria, I appreciate your suggestion and support!

VelvetStitching's avatar

I homeschooled for 26 years (5 kids). Just a suggestion - don't try to get your son to “level”!

Just read to him, pick subjects he is very interested in, his attention will be captured with interest which is where we all learn best!

I read to my last three children voraciously (what abig word!) and they all excelled! The first two I tried to “public school at home!” - it was stressful!

Yes - their education was also successful - but could have been so much more enjoyable!

“Wordly wise” is great vocabulary program.

Math U See good math program. (I tried many of them!)

Notgrass history was very good and “Understanding the Times” - worldviews vying for their hearts and minds. And best book:

The BIBLE - God's Word!

Find some friends who have kids abt the same age as yours and co-op together! Good fellowship and good learning together relying on each other's strengths, covering the weak areas together!

I know you didn't ask for the advice - but I sure could have benefitted from someone sharing with me in those difficult years!

And Apologia curriculum for Science.

I bought much of these books from Christian Book Distributors online.

I wish you the best!

Pray and God will give you the best guidance where to go with your son's education!

You are his parent - you love him the most - the education you give will be better than the indoctrination received at any “good” Government Schools!

Again, God bless and keep you!

John 14:27

Porge's avatar

Yes Velvet, agree. C&C seems to be invaded by trolls 🧌 lately. Somebody must be worried about something?

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

What do you think about putting together a compendium of stories like your own? My thought was to be a gathering point for these stories so others, not aware in their ignorance of reality, can see real-life stories of how families and individuals suffered during this time. Without Re-telling it in your own words people won't believe it. I may cap it at 100 stories. . . So, what do you think?

I will also place this question to those who have responded to you indicating THEY also have stories.

Susan Seas's avatar

💔😭 I’m so sorry!

Yes! NEVER FORGET!

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Susan ❤️

Uncle Juan's avatar

We should never forget…

A.'s avatar

I am very sorry for what happened to your brother and your family, RL. Some atrocious things occurred due to the evil COVID Psy-Op. Which was basically due to psychopathic power-mongers playing God.

May I suggest the Wilma Derksen book, "The Way of Letting Go"? I found it helpful myself.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks for the condolences.

Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I’m sorry, RL. It’s a painful thing you and your family were put through. Prayers for peace.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Connie ❤️

Lynne Morris's avatar

I am so, so sorry for not only your loss, but also the circumstance in which it occurred.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Lynne ❤️ It was especially devastating for my parents, who tried to get in the facility and help him but were rebuffed and then the shock at having things happen so quickly with such a tragic result 😞

Deb's avatar

So very sorry. So many were harmed by those in power at that time... their lies caused all this and still no one is being held accountable! I will say a prayer for you today.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Deb! Much appreciate the prayers 🙏❤️ Faith in God is what has helped me get through these tough times.

RunningLogic's avatar

We need to support this film and see how we can get it in theaters!! Anyone here have connections to help make it happen??

https://substack.brownstone.org/p/the-reckoning-we-owe-generation-covid?r=kmvf3&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

LMWC's avatar

We will never forget. I am sorry for the loss of your brother, it shouldn’t have happened.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you ❤️

Mo's avatar

Dear RL,

I am so sorry for the loss of your brother. May he be resting in the arms of his savior. What they did was horrific and unfortunately we have many Americans who went along with it. May we continue to defend those who did the right thing in spite of the costs and let the light shine on all of the evil.

On the memorial of your brother’s passing, may you be comforted by the peace that surpasses all understanding.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you Mo, I very much appreciate your kind words and prayers 🙏

RunningLogic's avatar

—“This is a fascinating type of dictatorship. It is the kind of dictatorship where you can organize a massive, highly publicized public rally to yell at the dictator, and the dictator’s police force actually blocks off traffic so you can yell more safely. In historical dictatorships, like the ones run by actual kings, traffic control was generally handled by guys with halberds, and the penalty for yelling at the king was that your head was relocated to a spike.”

This paragraph and the ones following were pure gold!! 🤣🤣🤣

NoreenL's avatar

My favorite today from Trump “you never know about Iran because we negotiate with them’ and then we always have to blow them up”. Hilarious

Johnny-O's avatar

You think blowing up humans is hilarious? War is hilarious? Unpredictable madmen are hilarious?

william howard's avatar

Trump the miracle maker has done more to get old fat ladies off the couch and burning calories than Jenny Craig could ever hope for

Cabogirl's avatar

Young FAT ones too. !

Juju's avatar

My favorite today: “I have always been under the impression that the Secret Service is composed of highly skilled people who can hit a moving target from three miles away while reciting the Preamble to the Constitution backward in Old English.” 🤣 🤣 I miss the days when the awe we had in some of these positions was fully warranted.

UnvaxxedCanadian's avatar

I'm thinking the Trump admin sent the most DIEverse SS agents to the Biden's? One would hope anyway.

Juju's avatar

Well they DID do that to Trump first, right? Just returning the favor …

Lydia Lozano's avatar

I am a very bad person because the whole Secret Service shooting thing made me laugh for ten minutes.

UnvaxxedCanadian's avatar

Just don’t blame SIG.

J Boss's avatar

I wonder if we're being too harsh on the SS agent. I mean, what if the floor of the car was sloped like a roof?

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

Not so much anymore Juju. I’ve lost so much respect for our government due to what they’ve done to us even before I was born. Waking up is/was painful.

Beckadee's avatar

I may have to use the 'yelling at squirrels' with a few here. Look for it. lol

Christine's avatar

I read this as I was actively yelling at the squirrel eating my tulips. 🤣

Lisa Runquist's avatar

I just send my hunting poodle Rose after them.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

My dog yells at squirrels so I don't have to.

Cabogirl's avatar

Ya ..I used to yell at the squirrels in Portland as there were an over abundance of them. They would dig up all my newly purchased and carefully planted garden. I read the coffee grounds stopped or supposedly slowed them down. Not in my case they got addicted to coffee and running around digging up everything for more caffeine. It was just crazy. Luckily no squirrels here but the sun and salty de-sal water is brutal.

Susan Seas's avatar

Only makes sense in this CrAzY world we are living in.

DianeKay88's avatar

Undeniably absolutely!

shayne's avatar

Nothing says mentally ill with a side of demons than a scantily dressed large tattooed person in a wheelchair looking like a Mad Max extra...

Skenny's avatar

That was a disturbing and revolting image.

William Foster's avatar

I'm sure there was a gaggle of flies hanging out somewhere on that thing.

Sue Kelley's avatar

I saw an interview with that person explaining what she was supposed to represent. Definitely her own grandma

Juju's avatar

“mentally ill with a side of demons” 🤣😆 Winner! spit my coffee on that one

Susan Seas's avatar

Mad Max extra 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Brilliant!!!

Demeisen's avatar

It's kind of an artistic triumph to simultaneously look so ineffectual and so terrifying at the same time.

Cabogirl's avatar

Exactly my thought. It’s kinda like a quad amputee murderer. You never know. 🤔

Beckadee's avatar

I'll bet 'it' can clear a sidewalk and quick!

Belling the Cat's avatar

My favorite aspect is the sunburn. Longtime beach natives, my partner and I always laugh at sunburnt tourists. If a lesson is learned, well and good. If not, at least they've provided us a bit of entertainment.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

She/Them/It is the poster child of the Demoncrat Party.

Lori's avatar

They truly are the lowest common denominators in our country. Imagine if they did not exist. How much more wonderful the US would be.

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I often think of that... but it seems not to be. The human journey together has been a constant Game of Thrones for millennia.

CStone's avatar

Mad Max extra, extra-extra, and with a black leather bra (XXXXL) and tattoos to boot!!

Mary Suddath's avatar

It’s the nails for me. Yuk.

Lori's avatar

You are too nice. How about morbidly obese and probably the reason she is in the wheelchair. Can't work but makes it to a No Kings protest.

Full Name's avatar

I enlarged that photo on my tablet and was STILL unable to determine it's sex-can only hope that it never reproduces...

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My take on Jill Biden's Secret Service man who shot himself is that he found a way out of her detail. It was either kill himself or shoot his leg. Can you blame him?

Mini-mum's avatar

My thoughts exactly! Maybe he was assigned to her detail for another stretch of time and he decided shooting himself in the leg was a better fate.

JasonT's avatar

Easier than trying to get a Section 8 apparently. Can you blame him? Getting stuck on the Jill detail...

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Exactly! It must be insufferable what with her being a medical doctor and all. At least if you're on Joe's detail, you can occupy yourself with helping him up when he falls.

CaliforniaLost's avatar

I'm glad I searched the comments before I made the same joke!

CStone's avatar

You do know she’s NOT a medical doctor, don’t you?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Ever since I can remember, I've been aware that an Ed.D. is NOT an M.D. and it's not even academic. What I said up there was a joke.

Erin Montgomery's avatar

Jill is not a medical doctor, she has a doctorate in education I believe.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Yes, I'm aware of her so-called doctorate in education; those degrees are widely regarded as a joke in academia. They are SO easy to get. My favorite "doctoral thesis" in education was a gym teacher who wrote his thesis on the best way to store volley balls. That was at Penn State back in the 1980s.

What I said up there was a joke. There's a clip of Whoopie Goldberg of The View being all excited that Jill had a medical degree. I think a lot of libs might even still believe that an Ed.D. is an M.D. LOLOLOL

Willing Spirit's avatar

I got it!!! Being a doctor, and all…what a pathetic loser, Jill is.

Lori's avatar
30mEdited

she is probably an affirmative action or DEI doc. She was not bright enough to get through any kind of med school curriculum.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Probably not a DEI doc because getting an Ed.D. is so freaking easy. My dogs could earn one, but I'd have to do the typing for them. LOL Sadly, it's the single most popular advanced degree that school teachers get when they long to be promoted to principle or school administrator.

cat's avatar

IDK. I was wondering if he was reacting to one of Jill's shower-curtain dresses.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

That's funny! I always thought of her dresses more as resembling couch upholstery.

PrayerWarrior's avatar

Brillant

Never thought of that

Maybe intentional for sure

Lori's avatar

Maybe he was aiming for her and misfired:{

Sewer Urchin's avatar

There were No Kings protests in London. Let that sink in for a minute.

JasonT's avatar

And ICE has been barred from operating in... Canada. The Bell Curve might have aomething to say.

Christine's avatar

I wonder what The King thought of that? 🤔

shayne's avatar

Clueless 🤣🤣🤣

JudyC's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣That’s priceless!

Dena's avatar

And I do believe a real King is expected to visit the US soon. I hope the protesters save their signs.

Sam's avatar

That would be priceless. 😄

PrayerWarrior's avatar

That was my favorite

No kings in London 😂😂😂😂

Cabogirl's avatar

Ha.. also in Todos Santos, Baja California Sur, mx. The place is loaded with rich libs.

It is illegal for ex pats to protest .. like protest anything. You can’t do it. Too bad they didn’t arrest and deport them.

Lori's avatar

LOL. Everyone got a prayer mat for attending.

Tonya's avatar

"We've had all our rights taken away" was the reason one local protester here in El Paso, Texas gave for her participation in the "No Kings" event. Too bad the "journalist" didn’t ask the obvious follow-up question of "What rights, exactly, have been stripped from you by this administration?"

Susan Seas's avatar

The right to protest? Nope

The right to freedom of speech? No! The right to leave your house? Still No. Definitely not the right to show yourself as a complete idiot.

J. Lincoln's avatar

I note with irony that it was the previous "dictator" that made it unlawful to leave our homes and go to the beach because of a seasonal influenza-like outbreak.

Tonya's avatar

Yes, the video of the arrest of the paddleboarder should have made it clear to everyone that it wasn't about health or safety.

Susan Seas's avatar

⬆️ RIGHT!!

dancingtime's avatar

Well....regarding covid as having been a seasonal flu....My position has not changed since that time and I was monitoring the "novel" flu since 2019...My position was and is that it was a flu with a designated target audience: the elderly and the unhealthy....a herd reduction....those are the members of any herd which needs culling. The de-populationists have been around for a long time....Bill Gates is one of them...Margaret Sanger was another, although she had a specialty of who to eliminate....My position is that not only did the people behind funding the creation of this virus want to reduce the world population in general but the Chinese, who revere their elderly, also needed to rid themselves of the "useless eaters"....it had been reported for some time that their overpopulation was with the wrong demographics: They needed more young males and the one child mandate hadn't worked out that well. (One Chinese friend had told me that the "one child" was not for the countryside farmers....it was more for the cities.) The virus would serve two masters: reduction in world population (remember Italy) and reduction of the revered Chinese elderly. I believe that its lethality was not finalized because....Trump....they had to get rid of Trump. I do not believe that it was a seasonal flu. It was a targeting flu for a purpose released (not escaped) from the lab before it was finalized.

Willing Spirit's avatar

So many lost freedoms😢. Wah, wah, wah…

Willing Spirit's avatar

Media isn’t going to ask questions the useful idiots can’t answer. That would be bad optics.

RunningLogic's avatar

—““No Kings” Protest weekend, otherwise known as International Poster Board Industry Support Day.”

🤣🤣🤣

Thanks as always for the levity, Jeff, I needed that today 😊

Tonya's avatar

And when he said, "The poster boards are being recycled," what he meant was that they were dutifully separated from the other trash, thrown in the correct bin, collected by additional trucks designated for paper and cardboard only, then thrown in the landfill with everything else, after all.

JudyC's avatar

Oh, heck no. They’re “recycled “ for the next paid protest….dutifully collected and stored away to be brought out with the pallets of bricks or cinder blocks when needed.

Beckadee's avatar

Apparently, a Craigs List post was recruiting morons to sell merch for the protests in Phoenix. 20% commission.

https://t.me/TheOfficialSantino/96050

JudyC's avatar

Makes me want to buy a t-shirt with a picture of Trump wearing a crown and grinning! (And I rarely wear t-shirts, but in this case I might!)

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that’s what I understood as well!

Cabogirl's avatar

Yep. I told you it was paid for. It’s not oganic.

Bard Joseph's avatar

They even rolled out the controlled opposition of the Vietnam War, Hanoi Jane Fonda and Joan Baez.

" if they want heroes

We give them heroes"

Albert Pike

Freemason

LMWC's avatar

Yesterday was Vietnam Veterans Day. Some of us remembered.

Lydia Lozano's avatar

I also LOVED "Big Sharpie."

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

I think it was far-levity.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Negligent discharge sounds more like how Hunter Biden came to be conceived.

RunningLogic's avatar

Oh man!! 🤣🤣🤣

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

My thoughts exactly.

Willing Spirit's avatar

😂🤣😂😂🤣

Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

"Trump’s Truth Social post called the Affordable Care Act the 'Unaffordable Care Act' … and proposed replacing the whole thing with direct payments to Americans."

I think it would be hysterical if those who have been voting for Dems over the past decade so they could get their ever-elusive free healthcare would actually be able to afford healthcare thanks to Trump 🤯 But then TDS sufferers would refuse to get healthcare … because Trump 😆

Lisa Runquist's avatar

How about we just get rid of the taxes that are collected rather than collecting it only to give some of it back to us?????

Dr Linda's avatar

Of course progressives are against giving money to the individual for healthcare.

Progressives are not for individuals but rather commercial industry.

Valerie's avatar

So about the health insurance thing… if the federal government gives money directly to taxpayers to purchase insurance, which sounds on its face way better, won’t it actually just drive up costs by exactly that much?

Say the government gives $8k per year for a family of 4, the economics I’ve studied says that insurance companies will just raise their premiums for that insurance by that exact $8k. It’s why the government needs to stay out of the private market.

CraigN's avatar

This change would actually require insurance companies to compete for business.

Demeisen's avatar

Yeah, I think they realize the delivery system is too complex to make specific changes to without leaving a short term mess. Providing a few points of patient leverage would move things at least a little on the same direction.

I would favor also allowing some degree of self insurance. And making it easier for small medical practices and hospitals to compete. Eg remove price fixing by big insurance payers etc.

CraigN's avatar

Not certain how to make small hospitals and practices competitive. The only real solution, other than more government interference, is to somehow get those seeking insurance to come together as a purchasing cooperative and then negotiate with insurers to include exactly what they are wanting to purchase. Large insurance companies don't 'price fix' as much as they negotiate with providers for a discount on services and those discounts are based upon how many patients the insurer can potentially send to the providers. There are some provider networks e.g. Mayo that will negotiate very little if any discounts, because they can, and thus some of those provider networks end up being out of network for the insured. What I would like to see in the marketplace is the ability to purchase your insurance needs on an ala carte basis. That's not possible now because federal and some state laws require insurers to include services that the insured may not need or want e.g. maternity care for a single male. Those sort of laws drive up pricing across the board. Something like catastrophic medical coverage with a $10K out of pocket would be desirable to some people to just keep those really large events from causing lifelong financial ruin.

Valerie's avatar

How is that? They technically have to compete now, there are multiple companies on the exchange.

To be fair, I don’t use the exchange, so I may not fully understand. My knowledge is from people telling me about their experiences with it.

CStone's avatar

They aren’t having to compete with anything. They’re being SUBSIDIZED.

RunningLogic's avatar

I thought in some cases people had very limited choices, depending on where they lived and other factors? But I might also be misinformed or misunderstanding, so I hope someone can clarify!

CraigN's avatar

You are correct. Available offerings can differ geographically.

RunningLogic's avatar

Thank you for confirming, I appreciate that!

DaveL's avatar

In general subsidies drive up costs. In this case, there's already subsidies directly to the insurance companies, so it might improve things. Maybe...

taxpayer's avatar

I think the problem with individual purchases of medical cost insurance is that some folks have serious expensive chronic conditions, so insurance companies would find them unprofitable. One way around this is to require companies to charge the same rate for everybody, but that makes the insurance too expensive for ordinary folks. Another way is to grant special subsidies to people with expensive conditions, but that would doubtless be abused. Another way is to count on private charity.

Valerie's avatar

I hope you’re right. An improvement is desperately needed.

Dr Linda's avatar

I am not disagreeing with your comment or thoughts. I had similar thoughts. However, I think it’s up to the individual. Flaws are sadly part of the process.

Valerie's avatar

I get that. There’s no perfect system, but it can definitely be better. I hope you’re right, but I’m suspicious of any government involvement in a market, we have a lot of experience seeing what happens.

Dr Linda's avatar

Don’t disagree. My comment was not to say that I am on either side.

I am not sure government can make much of anything better especially when lobbying is allowed, as well as the ability to alter bills as they go through committees.

Cabogirl's avatar

I’m sure there’s a way to make this better. A try is worth it for sure.

CStone's avatar

It would give the family the ability to pay cash for their healthcare. So they would HAVE TO LOWER their prices and the hospitals and drs would actually have to ‘compete’ for everyone’s business.

Valerie's avatar

If the money is in the system for healthcare, the healthcare system will suck it up. IMHO the only way for medical costs to go down is to make it a completely free market, like auto or homeowners.

Maybe I’m wrong. But I’m fairly well-read on economics. I would really like for some things to be actually improved rather than trading one problem for a different one.

RunningLogic's avatar

Transparency in pricing would be helpful, I know there’s been work done on this but there is more to do imo. All of the things that help drive costs up need to be addressed.

CraigN's avatar

Uffda. That is a very tall order. Just one case in point. The obesity rate in the U.S. is off the charts. Obesity contributes significantly to chronic disease. What contributes to obesity, big food. So now to address just obesity you are looking to make changes in big food. There are a lot of trickle down issues that would need to be addressed. Not saying that it cannot be done, but in this one single instance some degree of responsibility lies with individual choices also. And then you have that to address. If I had a magic wand.....

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Called competition. Imagine you have the choice ( I know, strange word these days) to purchase insurance from a choice of suppliers, who actually want your business.

hail_ants's avatar

You are absolutely correct— long term effect is that prices increase.

Sam's avatar

Health insurance needs to be removed from the equation - just pay the doctor directly. Doctors could have non-insurance fees. Better yet, pay doctors that actually care about health more than pushing pharma meds.

Christine's avatar

I thought the money was to directly pay for care rather than insurance. I must be missing something.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I was wondering about that too. It would be good to get some clarification.

JasonT's avatar

Progressivism is merely the face of oligarchy. Follow the money, it never lies.

Bard Joseph's avatar

What's a progressive?

J. Lincoln's avatar

Sounds like a good name for an insurance company.

DaveL's avatar

Someone who knows beforehand what all the solutions to the world's problems are.

Dr Linda's avatar

I used the word from the article. Knit pick there. I understand your issue.

Full Name's avatar

An auto insurance company fronted by creepy albinos plus one token black dude...

Lori's avatar

and lining their own pockets with kickbacks.

Demeisen's avatar

Mixture of industry and powerful government bound tightly together. There's a name for that system of organization, rhymes with lascism.

They've just figured out over the last couple of decades how to take over and brand it with leftism. So they call the Right fascist due to outdated cultural stereotypes but advocate that system.

Jared Polis can keep transing kids as long as the trains run on time, and the media well celebrate him as a great governor.

John Plodinec's avatar

Good to see you channeling your inner Dave Barry with the band names. How about "Janet Yellen and the Treasuries" as a jazz quintet?

Lynne Morris's avatar

Janet Yellen and the

C Notes?

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

That would be the C word.

Lynne Morris's avatar

Oh I did not think of it that way. Well done! I love double entendre.

John Plodinec's avatar

Wish I'd thought of that!

Tom's avatar

"Janet, yellin'"

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Or Yellin Janet and the treasurists?

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Could be a rap name.

RunningLogic's avatar

—“Actually, we’re not sure yet what exactly they were complaining about. Scientists continue to study it.”

They’re probably baffled 😑

Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Flummoxifen is a prescription for scientists and journalists.

Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

This is a little off today's topic but I think I have discovered a superpower technique to eliminate all of those obnoxious political fundraising texts. You know, the ones from WinRed. If you respond with "stop," you immediately start getting texts from ten new sources. Rather than responding with "stop," I have been responding with "when SAVE ACT is signed," or simply "SAVE ACT." It's worked in glorious fashion for me. The obnoxious texts are almost gone. There are just enough for me to get the satisfaction of responding with my superpower text once a day or so. Whether or not it works, I feel that I've accomplished more for the day than most US Senators, Senator Lee excepted of course.

Ruth H's avatar

I’ll try that! Thanks

Beckadee's avatar

I'm never doing the WinRed donation again! They are as guilty of smurfing donations as Act Blue.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Wow! And I bought a blocking app.

RunningLogic's avatar

Awesome idea, thanks for sharing!

TiredCitizen's avatar

That's why I don't give. Back in the 2016 and 2020 election, I gave money to candidates only to find out later that it went to the RNC. No thanks.

Torrance Stephens's avatar

"America has no kings but plenty of idiots. It’s like a free-range asylum out there. Why don’t they just name this no-brain day? "

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/no-kings-or-running-on-trump-derangement

Starsky's avatar
3hEdited

My 80-year-old uncle was out there holding a sign in Seattle. Now you know why we call him “Butterfly Net Darryl.”

Beckadee's avatar

That's hilarious! Remember Daryl, Daryl and Daryl. The 3 brothers?

RunningLogic's avatar

Oh yeah! 🤣🤣🤣

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

No kidding, I just had the Daryl x 3 conversation at work because one of our clients is named Daryl. Wykyk. Lol

RunningLogic's avatar

—“This is what professionals and experts call “Journalistic Consistency,” which is a highly technical term meaning, “We Make The Rules Up As We Go Along.”

In other words, Calvinball 😆😁

Tom's avatar
2hEdited

They are consistently inconsistent, you see . . .