Charlie Kirk memorial shatters records but conservatives grumble; Trump teases autism bombshell; and the President heads to the UN, ready to wreak havoc and maybe—just maybe?—deliver ‘world peace.’
Leader after leader proclaimed Christ at Charlie’s memorial service. They didn’t just refer to God in some nebulous manner; they boldly shared the gospel. They spoke the name of Jesus. They shared the truth that gives life. Hallelujah!
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“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
And do not return there without watering the earth
And making it bear and sprout,
And giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth;
It will not return to Me empty,
Without accomplishing what pleases Me,
And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.”
We British Christians would get excited when, once a year, Queen Elizabeth would make a mild but sincere reference to the love of Jesus Christ in her Christmas address.
In Charlie Kirks' Memorial service, watched by tens of millions, I just heard:
- Multiple clear presentations of the gospel from men like @robmccoyus and @DrFrankTurek with clear calls to repentance and faith
- Worship songs full of Scripture sung by tens of thousands live and millions at home
- Personal testimonies of lives transformed by the work of Christ and the witness of believers
- Demonstration and explanation of the value of marriage, child-rearing and family
- Calls to Romans 13 for the government to bear the sword for the protection of good and punishment of the wicked
- Declarations of spiritual warfare on the forces of evil and promises to endure no matter the cost
- Calls to be prophets and call the nation to repent
- More Scripture references and Bible readings than I can count
- And a widow publicly forgiving her husband's killer because Christ forgave his killers on the cross.
All of it done before, and by, the most powerful people in your nation and the world.
You guys should be on your knees thanking God for your country. It is a light to the world.
I am so proud of what I saw yesterday. Acknowledgement so clear of Who is the Master of all things and how we must aspire to serve Him in all we do. What a Wow revival yesterday. I expected a somber funeral and we all received this real time declaration of Faith instead.
To "Beware of false prophets" means to be cautious of spiritual leaders or teachers who appear righteous but are actually deceptive and dangerous, as they seek to mislead people and lead them astray from truth and genuine faith. This warning, prominent in the Bible, advises believers to judge them by their "fruit"—their true character and actions—rather than their outward appearance or charismatic words.
My late husband died at the age of 47 of a very rare neurological disease for which there was no treatment or cure. It was horrific and heartbreaking, diagnosed in June and he died in early Sept. There were so many people that came to the funeral that the church was packed to overflowing and the narthex and parking lot were full of people who stood the entire time to listen to the service and message. The pastor boldly preached the Gospel clearly so many people were impacted by that. Obviously it wasn’t even a fraction of the crowd at Charlie’s memorial service but to my pastor, (and me) the importance of sharing the gospel at a time of grief and heartache is so important because it’s a message of hope and comfort. Death doesn't have the final word.
Beautiful Jeff C… after watching the near destruction of our beautiful American Republic by Obama continued by the Biden admin hell bent on accomplishing the agenda by its destroyers… yesterday’s memorial indeed felt like a revival of hope, prayer and faith… I’m convinced many there and those watching not only felt the Holy Spirit in that stadium, but felt it personally… never saw or felt anything like it
Trust me, patriotic American give thanks to God every day for what we have. We are also fortunate that this current administration includes many Christians willing to spread the message of Christ and will not be silenced or deterred by MSM or the Left.
I do LOVE C&C! Jeff makes me laugh every day. I especially love his asides to Portlanders, explaining concepts that might be difficult for them to understand due to their limited intellectual capacity.
I think he lives in FL. I am not sure if even Jeff could mentally survive the insanity of living in Portland. My very liberal niece just bugged out of there this past summer. Even she had had enough of the nut jobs and insane laws/lawlessness there.
It was so beautiful that no one had to scrounge up a moment when Charlie might have mentioned God. We know what he believed and we know where he is thanks to Christ’s mercy to redeem him and receive him into paradise.
Pastor Mark Driscoll put up a tweet regarding the state of the church when a bunch of politicians stated the Gospel more clearly and forcefully than half the pulpits in America. Amen brother.
If your pastor isn't sharing the Gospel as forcefully as Pete Hegseth and Tucker Carlson (two former Fox News hosts of all people) then you really might want to consider another church.
And that’s precisely why I will be leaving my church for another one. My current pastor had two Sundays to say something, anything, about Charlie Kirk and his assassination. But he did not. Charlie didn’t even get a mention in a prayer, let alone merit an entire sermon. Yesterday was my last day there as a Presbyterian. I’m moving on.
I’m sorry Mary Ann. Sadly, I agree with you. Time to move on - when you can’t comment to the elephant in the room along with a majority of hurting people over an assassination something is missing from your leadership & pastoral commitment.
@Mary Ann- we left our church after our pastor said our granddaughter had no right to be born because her parents weren't married. She's now married, with a home, 2 kids, 2 undergrad degrees and a Masters degree. Our particular congregation closed shortly after that exchangeand we haven't bothered to find a new one. We serve God in other ways.
I do hope you’ll find a genuine Bible believing, bible teaching church led by a pastor who loves Jesus & his flock. Being a part of a church family is a joy; in hard times that family holds one up in prayer & action.
We were new in our church when I became seriously ill; quite unexpectedly & sudden. I wasn’t given much chance of surviving. My church family circled up & prayed faithfully & fervently for me & cared for my family too.
Part of that time I wasn’t given much totally unaware.
When I finally recovered & was well enough to attend services the welcoming I encountered was so very sweet.
We had left our previous church & were physically churches for about 2+ yrs. We watched online some fabulous pastors (out of town; but oh so godly shepherds of vibrant churches). But we missed having a local church & pastor.
And visited then joined this wonderful body of believers who are humble servants of God.
Our pastor gathered us together the night Charlie was murdered. He addressed what happened & called it what it was. Charlie was martyred for his faith. He spoke addressing the fears, sadness, horror, etc.
We prayed at our kneeling benches & in pews, wherever. We worshipped. We heard God’s Word.
That Sunday we had a guest pastor whose planned sermon went on, but fit the matter on every heart.
This past Sunday when we had a mini concert by a family who sings, our pastor still preached a wonderful message; this time about Charlie & his boldness, his love for others, his style of speaking about his faith, wanting young people to find true purpose in life, etc. our pastor challenged us to be like Charlie! He talked to our youth, parents, grandparents, all.
Outstanding message!
We departed & went home to watch Charlie’s Memorial.
Good for you. We prayed for Charlie’s family the weds night after it happened. And on Sunday and this Sunday for protection for everyone there and the gospel to go forth
God bless Mary Ann. If you don't mind me asking was it PC (USA) or PCA? PC (USA) has long seemed a lost cause but the PCA seemed to be putting up a fight. I hope it was the former.
I don’t know which branch, but it did close during covid; a few are still wearing masks, communion is served by elders wearing gloves, the organist and several others in prominent positions are openly gay. The organist leaves the sanctuary during times he is not playing. And of course, Charlie Kirk’s name was never spoken. The church was built in 1887 and was first organized around the early 1800s, if that’s any clue.The town it’s in is a red part of rural Pennsylvania, far from Pittsburgh, Penn State, and Philadelphia. Any of that help?
I may sound judgemental, but you just listed several reasons why I personally would leave that church. I go to a tiny Free Will Baptist church. Our preacher has stated numerous times he will not preach politics or tell us how to vote. He preaches only from the Bible. He doesn't preach about current events, but he uses scripture to help us understand and deal with them. I pray that you find a church that meets your needs and expectations.
I may suggest a church on line: cornerstone chapel. net , Pastor Gary Hamrick. You may test him from on line teaching library. Our family listen to him for 3 years and we will never live.
I hope you tell the pastor (and any legal body that governs the church if there is one) that you are leaving / have left, and why. In addition, if you DO succeed in finding a church you like better I think it would be pretty funny to leaflet the cars in the parking lot one Sunday anonymously telling folks that if they want to find a church that does 'x, y and z' they should check out ___(your new church).
Does the preacher preach the Truth in the sermon? My preacher mentioned the numerous atrocities of the last couple of weeks. Then he continued with our study of Genesis. I don't think it was necessary for him to preach about Charlie, he's not our Savior. Yes, he was a good man, he loved God and his family, and he shared the Gospel with many people.
The only church I ever left was one that felt dead, and twisted the Bible. Maybe there are other reasons that you are leaving that church?
No other reason for leaving. I am very attached to that church; I grew up in it and it’s a beautiful sanctuary. But when the nation is grieving and we are beset with so many other profound problems transgenderism, wars, political violence, etc., I think a pastor has an obligation to address them. The Bible is an ancient text that has all kinds of truth to say to the present and how to confront them.
Been sick so haven’t been but I’ve heard that the sermons have been about relevant topics. Haven’t heard of there were any mentions. It’s a small town here and I kinda think they are fairly similar in approach, for the most part.
The devil is so lame... He is terrified of a name. Anyone who worships this utter loathsome disgrace is a complete moron. ...And just what has the father of lies promised them in return for their idiotic devotion?
When I was being pursued by demons in my teens, I learned the mere mention of Jesus’s name made them flee! I feel I lived the book, This present darkness, by Frank Perriti. The spiritual realm is alive and wreaking havoc!!
Funny little anecdote. At one point, I did a lot of reading on "UFO/ alien abductions." Turns out that if one is experiencing an "alien abduction," the incident will immediately stop if you invoke the name of Jesus.
An excellent book that hit me hard! Knowing, and seeing the spiritual battle going on around us and seeing God’s warriors working to protect us! What an eye opener.
Our time here barely registers in the context of forever - they better enjoy that counterfeit bliss of "fiat" money and "fake" power offered by the devil while it lasts because they will burn for the rest of it for being so obtuse.
There is no bliss on earth that can compare with heaven. What we consider bliss in the briefest of moments in this plane of existence is a total artificial parody by comparison to what true bliss is. This is a lesson satan worshipers will learn the very very very long and very very very hard way.
When I was seeing my mom pass, after 97 years on this earth, it was so eye opening. I always knew. I was always assured that I was a finite mortal living with an infinite spirit-soul inside me. But, the shell of her, laying there after she was gone was just that. A shell for who we have chosen to be while on this earth.♥
CStone, I agree wholeheartedly that God is going to powerfully answer our prayers for intercession and awakening IF we remember Who God is and who we are not. The OT is full of His people falling away, remembering from Whom they had fallen, repenting, and calling on His Name. Yesterday for Charlie was so filled with God's calling. I pray we listen. Most important Sunday service I have ever seen!
2nd Chronicles 7:14: “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
Unfortunately the images in these videos on social media of all the trash at the memorial are being propagated on foreign mainstream media as an indication of the type of people attendees are. The insinuation is that because they left vast amounts of unsightly trash they aretrash. It's disgusting!
Interesting. They never reported all the tons of trash at and around the border when it was being flooded with people storming into our country illegally.
@Mary Ann (again!!)- Wanna know how? Visit the family, use their tv under their name, and turn on FOX News. That's what I did to a very liberal family member a few weeks ago. Now when she turns on her tv, one of the suggestions will be FOX News.
I was sitting in the Wash. DC Amtrak station in 2017, and CNN was on and they were covering it.
They were showing miles of people filling some road in Mexico, on their way to the US.
But they were telling us that we were seeing hungry desperate people on their way to the promised land, and we needed to be welcoming.
No one in the station was buying it. There was muttering all around. But I'm sure that a lot of people did buy it. They are out there today protesting sending them back.
(The news reader did the same thing on Jan. 6th. They were showing a bunch of people milling around on the Capitol steps, but they were telling us we were watching a riot.)
This friend must be experiencing deep cognitive dissonance because CNN has the pollster who keeps showing the Dems approval ratings in the toilet and DJTs are very positive and they have the super conservative around their round table who slays the libs with truth on a daily basis.
I came to the conclusion that litter was the outer symptom of a community's dedication to being watchful and good stewards of where they live. Had a stranger behind me at a stop sign during covid with NY plates (i am in rural Idaho) so I got out and went back to his car to see who he was. It's what we do around here. Turns out he was the boyfriend of a neighbor gal, but he was out of place. I said "this must be so different from NY" and his answer was "It is so clean here." I kid you not. I saw him and knew his intent. They disappeared not long after. Oh, did I mention I am not scared of anything? haha
There are videos circulating that show people among the trash with placards praising Jesus. There is one entitled "Entitlement on Display," basically slamming the mourners as narcissists. It may be in it. I've tried to find it again but it's disappeared. There are a lot of these videos. It's disgusting.
I live in AZ and saw a lot of pictures of the crowd waiting to get in. There are no trash receptacles in any of them. I think the city was completely unprepared for the vast numbers of people who came. There are pictures of large numbers of people leaving because both venues were full by 9:30am. Nobody was allowed to bring in bags or bottles, and AZ was 90 degrees by 9am yesterday, so of course everyone had water bottles. This is just bad planning.
How could there have been trash when no bags were allowed? I think those are probably photos from some other time. If you're in reddit then confront them
I know firsthand from attending a Trump rally where NOTHING is allowed in,there can never be enough trash cans for the amount of things people have to ditch and unload before entering a building. It happened to be raining that day and you could open an umbrella store with the amount that had to be left behind 😆 not to mention the water bottles and camping chairs, vapes lol Nothing a clean up crew couldn’t handle the next day. Small price to pay!!
Because there is power in the name of Jesus. The enemy knows it. If you read Revelation God wins. We’re just gonna be on a bumpy road until his return.
Yes, an intentional Revival and what a beautiful way to celebrate and honor Charlie's life. I was gobsmacked seeing leaders profess faith in Christ out loud and proud reiterating how we must center our lives and govt around the Almighty! I am sure the left was having apoplexy.
Apoplexy from awareness that "something really big" is happening, combined with their cardiac/neuro damage done by the shots: recipe for a shortened life.
Praise the Lord! I did not watch any of it live, but I listened to Erika Kirk’s speech this morning, and just played the Marco Rubio clip Jeff shared. God is doing amazing things, to Him be all the glory.
To "Beware of false prophets" means to be cautious of spiritual leaders or teachers who appear righteous but are actually deceptive and dangerous, as they seek to mislead people and lead them astray from truth and genuine faith. This warning, prominent in the Bible, advises believers to judge them by their "fruit"—their true character and actions—rather than their outward appearance or charismatic words.
This was fruit. Boldly proclaiming the gospel in response to an act of pure evil, an act that could be repeated against many of the people speaking, is a fruit. Much safer personally and politically for many of them if they'd just said something kind about Charlie and left it at that.
When one is speaking at a funeral, words are all that one has. Should they all have been required to present a resumé proving their “fruit” in real life? Perhaps judged by a panel with 👍👎 signs before they could proceed? Whether or not each speaker was sincere in his heart (“whether in pretense or in truth”), Christ was boldly proclaimed to a massive international audience. It was amazing.
I start by noting God has not, and never will make me judge of anyone's spiritual condition; other than my own.
Some of the same leaders who were speaking of Jesus support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit. We know them by their fruits. Remember, when Jesus cast out demons they would proclaim who Jesus is.
Here's a question, the people living today, that this applies to, do they realize this is how they will be received by Christ?
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7:21-23
“I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”
You said you didn't see the event, yet you stated "Some of the same leaders who were speaking of Jesus (at the event) support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit. We know them by their fruits. Remember, when Jesus cast out demons they would proclaim who Jesus is."
I'm not going to assume I know which leaders you speak of that support and impose death & destruction nor WHO the innocent people are... much less who is profiting off them... but I gather you're implying that just as the demons knew Jesus, these leaders also know Jesus and you're equating them with demons... Quite a mouthful from someone who didn't see/hear the event....
"...support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit..."
Let's see. Right off the bat I can think of BigPharma and the medical "industry" that for several years now has been imposing and profiting from the death and destruction of Americans caused by the bio-weapon jab. Oh, and then there is the NeoCon war and money laundering profiteering in Ukraine which lines the pockets of the MIC. That's just for starters! And you think it's all about Gaza? Little defensive there, aren't you?
No, Christ's condemnation goes way beyond Gaza. We have more than enough sins to account for right here in the USA. Just for example, the legalization of child murder in 1973 has resulted in 70 MILLION murder babies through abortion. As for Gaza, that's on Israel and Netanyahu. I'll make an analogy that even the simple should understand. A member of a competing family murders a member of my extended family. Does that then justify my family then taking up arms to kill every member of the competing family and then, since their house is now empty (though covered in blood), we move into their house and their land expelling anyone who managed to stay alive? God's law, the absolute definition of morality, applies to everyone. Israel and Netanyahu do NOT have a divine exception to God's law.
Defend him all you want but God will hold everyone accountable to His Law. See Psalms 1 and 2.
Not any one, specific conflict, there are several. As for the M E conflict, I don't trust either side. From what I can tell both are guilty of war crimes.
I had to work yesterday, so I have only seen a few of the incredible God filled speeches. I am totally awed and feel as if I saw the parting of the Red Sea. I think Dr. Dobson had a chat with God because what I have seen so far was an extraordinary act of God - Be assured that He is fully aware of what we are encountering here in this life and divine intervention took place at the Charlie Kirk service. I can't wait to watch the rest of the ceremony. My deepest condolences to Erika and the Kirk family.
- They created the abomination called Cancel Culture.
- They gave it food, water and shelter.
- They nurtured it.
- They taught it what to do.
- They taught it who to employ.
- They taught it who to target.
- They released it into society.
- They celebrated its global success as it completely devoured thousands who had the audacity to voice a different opinion from its programmed narrative(s).
- They were deeply chagrined when its agents missed several opportunities to extinguish a mortal enemy and, arguably, the most popular People’s President ever.
- They rejoiced when it - and one of its gutless cowardly accomplices - callously snuffed out the life of an innocent, kind, decent, honorable family man in the most dishonorable fashion.
- Now, it has turned on them, chowing down on the career of a singular talentless propped up late night arrogant gasbag, and suddenly it’s become the greatest scourge of our times. After a quick stop at the Torch and Pitchfork retail franchise they hit the streets en masse in relentless pursuit of the brazen apostate that has abruptly escaped their charge.
They’re too jaundiced to see this double standard, too busy chasing their tales to capture the irony and too cold-blooded and self-absorbed to care.
When they took out Charlie they didn't realize they we're taking down the biggest tree in the forest. The ensuing reverberation will be long lasting.
Excellent Ryan! I am reminded of the benefit of pine forest fires. The heat from the flames makes the cones explode and the seeds inside are dispersed throughout the charred but fertile ground. Let us grow deep roots of faith and by the grace of God, produce the fruit of His Holy Spirit.
You need to publish a “poetry” book full of your comments from here. Title it “History: Musings and Insights From a Firsthand Witness”. Sure there won’t be stanzas and rhyming like traditional poetry, but it will match the delicious brevity, and when you think deeper on what you read you will see the same beauty as a “rhyme”. It would be an enjoyable book to consume in the same way one consumes a poetry book, with the same depth and inspiration.
I’ll talk to my publisher, should he ever come out of hiding. “Musings and Insights from a Common Sense Conservative Conspiracy Theorist Who's Running Out of Conspiracies That Haven't Come True.” Too wordy?
The word "conspiracy" comes from the Latin verb cōnspīrāre, meaning "to breathe together." Call it "Breathless." But wasn't that the name of a classic movie? Anyway, it's too subtle, isn't it.
Eric/Juju, I have been thinking that same thought about Jeff’s writing and Eric’s among others. I think AI is key tool to get this accomplished. Working on it with someone smarter than me. Shhh..don’t tell anyone.
Ok, THAT ^^^^ was the best thing I read today on the topic of the realities of the left’s corrupting influence. Bless you for your insight, light, and creativity. May we all be inspired to stand up strongly as Charlie did in the wake of the reverberation from his downed tree.
Please read this substack from AND magazine. The author is a former CIA analyst - but one of the good ones. He says that we are at high danger of civil war, and the mainstream left does not realize that the target is the entire US, not just conservatives.
One tidbit he cites is that a post that was more-or-less celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder on a Stanford University site got upvoted by 17% of students.
There's other good stuff you have not heard of yet:
Honestly, my response is, defund 100% the Universities. Profs need to learn that without money from parents, grants, trusts, and redistributed tax money their safe space bubble would not exist. Make them find a job in the “real world.”
In the immediate aftermath of Charlie’s assassination, I saw a TikTok of a lunatic, gleeful woman asserting that this was the perfect killing because Charlie was a minor figure on the right and thus couldn’t be made a martyr.
I hope that despicable excuse for a human being was forced to watch his memorial service.
They are ‘left’ with the most deviant dregs of society.
I pray that if any of those ‘dregs’ eyes are covered in scales so that they cannot see, that our SAVIOR will let the scales fall from their eyes and be saved and made whole!!
Yes and more yes Eric! They now out themselves (again and continuously) with their reactions to one of the most moving moments in American history. Those that don’t see the truth of what you penned are truly dancing with the devil. I loved Erika - remembering that Charlie said - everything we do in this life leaves a mark on our souls. That hit me and I’m gonna refocus on my issues and let THEM deal with their own. Or at least that’s my plan. Thanks Eric!
Some critics think that the memorial was idolizing Charlie Kirk, but what part of that clip of Rubio's speech elicited a massive cheer from the crowd? Was it about Charlie? No, it was about Jesus Christ rising from the dead. Amen.
A memorial service, Praising & Worshipping the King of Heaven, Jesus.... proclaiming His gospel of Salvation, exalting the Name above all names and reminding humanity world-wide where we are heading to... our Father's House!
How many adjectives can I use... It was simply the most excruciating, uplifting, hope filled, glorious, faith filled, honoring, comforting, challenging days of my life! Please feel free to add your words of choice.
How does The Boss do it all? Last week meeting with the British royalty. Then attending the massive Charlie Kirk memorial service. Now about to give the UN a lashing, AND preside over an autism announcement. We are blessed to have been allowed this reprieve from the insanity of the last four years.
I personally could not watch the services yesterday, I would have cried all day. I kept up with reports.
@KC- I'm still working on the forgiveness part on many scenarios in my life. Erika, and parents whose children are murdered, are better people than I am.
It definitely made us cry all day. Well worth it though - felt like my soul needed that cleansing cry after these past two weeks of overpowering emotions.
I do believe Trump was raised up for a time such as this. In a Biblical sense, he has been used to restore justice to our nation, and preside over a spiritual awakening.
Yes. That doesn’t mean he is our spiritual leader. I don’t look to him for confirmation of my faith or spiritual guidance. It seems all those who hate him think those of us who agree with many of his actions see him as a cult leader. So exasperating!
I couldn't watch it either. My heart is broken for him and his children.... it's not that I won't watch one day but I can't watch it now. I did wear one of my Charlie Kirk shirts all day though.
I was most impressed in the beginning with the TPUSA employees and friends of Charlie speaking. Very touching. And I particular liked Dr. Larry Arnn, President of Hillsdale College. Here it is.
I liked Dr Arnn as well, but I have been supporting Hillsdale College for years. I get their Imprimis newsletter every month and have taken their free online courses. What a college should be. Dr Arnn to young Charlie, “You haven’t suffered enough”. Prophetic.
On that website under Top Videos they have all the individual speakers. Ben Carson and Rebecca Dunn were also worth watching. High caliber group of people there.
Dave, same here, I could not watch yesterday, but I played Erika Kirk’s remarks this morning. That is a must-watch if you haven’t already. Praise the Lord.
I came home from church, turned on tv to watch and ended up watching for 6 hours. I couldn’t stop, it was so beautiful to take it all in. The Christian performers sang some of my favorite songs. The crowds singing along. Then one speaker after another kept crushing it. Each had something special to share and every speaker shared their faith openly. President Trump speaking last and ending with asking Erica to join him was so touching. He truly was comforting and she seemed so gracious. The whole tribute made me so proud to be an American and see the beginning of a revival for our country. We are truly blessed to have such strong moral leadership that was so badly needed.
Jeff Childers wrote, "Folks, I don’t want to call anyone out or throw stones here, but anybody on our side criticizing the memorial for being irreligious is not really on our side."
Amen brother. I've been saying for ages there are plenty of bad-faith actors supposedly on our side. You can spot them instantly in their lies. They will change their tune on a dime if they think a new approach might be more influential. They will twist and exaggerate words beyond comprehension. They will put words into other people's mouths that never came anywhere close to what they actually said.
Some of them are just garden variety sociopaths, but I really think some are much darker than that. They are demon possessed and recoil at the mention of Christ's name. Satan is the father of all lies as the Bible tells us, and these people lie so shamelessly and fluidly it almost seems supernatural.
The Bible tells us to constantly exercise discernment, to judge people by their fruits, and to quite literally *hate* evil. We are not supposed to pleasantly smile and quietly ignore these demons in our presence. You will know them by their lies as they revel in them.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am far from irreligious, but the lack of critical thinking here, and the defiant refusal to ask pertinent questions about this so-called shooter is deeply troubling to me.
THIS is what is troubling people. We are not naysayers or nitpickers.
I love to see the outpouring of faith. And I loved Tucker’s highly sophisticated speech. It was perfect for the moment. (Who killed Jesus, and why?)
Let’s not accept the rush to judgment on who did it, who was behind it, or what the motives were. Due process is called for. ⚖️✝️⚖️
I think you need to reread what I quoted from Jeff Childers and what I wrote. It was not in regards to questioning the current explanation, but specifically about people on our side criticizing the memorial.
Grace to you my friend, but when arguing against things that weren't said it *appears* to be exactly what I was talking about above ("They will put words into other people's mouths that never came anywhere close to what they actually said").
I think you are reacting to what others may have said, not me, and hopefully mean this comment in good faith. We all have questions, few of us are satisfied with the official explanation. But please use caution as this type of name-calling (lack of critical thinking) and misdirection (false arguments against things not said) are exactly the tactics of the enemy.
In John 10:18, Jesus states: "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father." (ESV).
Thank you. Reason without faith is monstrous. Faith without reason is blind. With timing perfect for Charlie's memorial, we're told now by his surgeon that Charlie stopped a bullet with over 2000 lbs velocity. Stopped it cold because his bones were that dense. This does not honor Charlie. This disgraced him. More here: https://youtu.be/1KrEkMkAiVI?si=Q3WCqslKtVVs0xVw.
If it had exited, killing other people, it would have changed the conversation.
If God’s people had repented when the Father had been calling for such a long time, it could be that no one would have had to suffer the death of a martyr.
Instead, Adonai wanted us focused on Charlie’s message of Salvation and hope.
If GOD had not stopped that bullet, it could be that, instead of falling to our knees and repenting, praising and honoring YESHUA, we would be in the beginning of a civil war.
When I realized that the blood of martyrs have marked guillotines, and that Charlie is a martyr, my grief turned into astonishment.
What an HONOR it would be, to be a martyr for the Cause of CHRIST!!!!
And they fit in well with Antifa and the like. They are out and about on the internet, trying to sow division and discord. They can pretend to be anybody or anything.
I watched the whole memorial. Erika’s grief and faith forgiveness were unmatched, but my favorite was her description of her husband in death; the gray hair, the half smile. He blinked and he was with His Savior.
I am still sorting through all the eulogies, but two of my personal favorites were Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard’s because I did not expect either to dwell distinctly on Charlie’s faith, the over arching reason he could go forward with such fervor.
And lastly, Amazing Grace done by bagpipes. Gets me every time, perhaps because it’s used so often for fallen warriors.
The memorial was long but rewarding. I too watched the whole thing, and the speeches were astounding. A crescendo began with Tucker Carlson and I thought no one would top that but they just kept going with Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth. All of them were beyond anything I expected, but I was truly blown away by Marco.
Wow! I have not yet heard her remarks, but have been been praying for Tulsi, for God to open her heart to the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And also for Kash Patel.
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
We were acquainted with Mike Gabbard when we worked on a Traditional Marriage bill in Hawaii. Mike is a Catholic, so we assume Tulsi was raised in the Christian tradition. Praying that she is returning to the faith.
My husband and I thought the same thing about Marco. He was succinct, logical, sincere, and passionate, all at the same time. Hearing him made me really glad he and Trump buried the hatchet and he’s serving in this administration.
Me too! Her call to young men and husbands -fathers and then to women was so powerful. I’ll be re-watching that taking notes. Huge impact on me personally.
I loved RFK’s speech. I may be in the minority but I thought President Trump’s speech was rambling and not appropriate for the memorial. You can tell he normally speaks off the cuff but he should’ve went with prepared remarks and not made it into a stump speech.
Even his prepared remarks can sound off the cuff. That’s his style. He was very honest when talking about he’s not ready to forgive his enemies. That Charlie was a better at that than him.
Also I don’t have my head up anyone’s backside enough not to see the things that I agree with and the things I don’t and am able to be objective. As the Bible says I don’t worship any man, sometimes the politician worship on here gets a little out of hand
That service was amazing and I have never seen one like that in out country before. From the praise and worship to the pastors, friends, co-workers to the several leaders of the free world - all sharing Jesus Christ as Lord for that many hours to that many people worldwide! I couldn’t move. I was worshiping and crying throughout. I am still in awe!
One thing that really struck me is when the crowd sang "Gratitude" together...
So I throw up my hands
And praise You again and again
'Cause all that I have is a hallelujah
Hallelujah
And I know it's not much
But I've nothing else fit for a King
Except for a heart singing hallelujah
Hallelujah
I know this song (as I'm sure many on here do) as we sing it at church occasionally and I regularly listen to Christian radio. But it surprised me that nearly everyone at the service seemed to know it. I think the extent of this current revival is much deeper than we realize.
Your comment rings true! I read so many comments from folks saying it was awesome how many knew the words to every praise song! I, myself, wasn't so surprised because I've been to their concerts. Everyone sings!
Absolute chills! When we sing that song in church, I always become overwhelmed by emotion by everyone singing, and raising their hands around me! Seeing this during a memorial for Charlie Kirk warmed my heart more than ever! Praise Jesus!
Hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ being boldly proclaimed throughout Charlie's service was incredible! Surely a harvest of souls came into God's kingdom as a result and I have no doubt Charlie was watching with joy. What the enemy meant for evil and destruction, God turned for His glory.
I can say with certainty that the worship portion alone reached MANY watching.
I used to belong to a church that was known as a “mega church” but was decidedly different than all the rest across the country because they refused to carry unnecessary debt and paid off any building loans (the ONLY debt they allowed) in under four years, so they had 100% of their tithe income available to serve God almost all of the time. They were the only mega church in America debt-free. That says a LOT. I worked in the finance department and prepared the board reports, and I saw not a single questionable penny spent, or a single salary inflated. The leadership was authentically and humbly following God and placing His will ahead of their own desires all the time. The worship portion of that church was identical to Kirk’s memorial, where people chosen to lead the singing also were authentic, not self-absorbed or preoccupied by how they appeared to the congregation, but wholly devoted to worshipping God and elevating Him alone, not themselves, so that everyone saw God and not them, and I saw how just that part of our service led so many people to Christ.
Yesterday when I watched the worship portion I was in tears the entire time, amazed that what I had been blessed to have experience myself in our little city of our country was being broadcast to the ENTIRE world. Satan constantly worked hard to find a way to destroy our church, because like Charlie its effectiveness was an unbelievable threat to our area, and still … the same authentic spirit that it had was able to reach the world yesterday through Charlie’s memorial. 100x more authentic than even what I was shepherded in. They chose well who to lead the worship. If anything, anyone that did not watch should put on the worship portion each morning while starting your day and bathe in the beauty of praising and worshipping the one, true God.
God is excellence. So of course those working for Him for the right reasons in the right way will exude excellence. When praise and worship is “concert quality” that is not a negative in and of itself. It depends on the performers and whether or not you are led to focus on them … or on God. The truly good ones fade into the background so God is in the foreground. That’s an excellence I get behind.
I have tears in my coffee this morning reading about Charlie Kirk's Memorial. I was traveling back from a two week trip to Europe yesterday, so missed the live streams etc. Our trip involved retracing the route of my buddy's dad through WWII, including Normandy, Bastogne (Battle of the Bulge) and the march through the German Ruhr Valley, heart of the Nazi war machine's weapons production. It included many stops at Military Cemeteries. If you think for one minute there is not evil walking this planet, I challenge you to go to one of those and come away thinking otherwise. And for Erika Kirk to have the Christian Faith to forgive her husband's assassin also tells me that our Righteous Lord and Savior is also hard at work to defeat that evil. Erika is a far better human than I. I'm not sure I have that Grace. I'll work on it. The Peace of The Lord be with all our C&C Family.
God offers forgiveness before we repent. He died on the cross for all, including those of us not yet born when he was crucified. We must repent to receive what he has already offered. He's holding it out. It is up to us to take it or reject it.
And just so, we forgive others, for the sake of our own soul. We forgive them as God forgives us, offering it to them. It is up to them to repent and accept what we offer, or not, for their own sake.
We can’t conflate our human forgiveness with God’s forgiveness. Erika specifically mentioned that the answer to hate is love. She has forgiven the killer to spare herself the caustic effects of hate and bitterness.
This does not pardon the killer from suffering the consequence of his actions under a just government.
He must also repent and deal with his Maker personally to have eternal forgiveness.
The Torah makes it clear that only the aggrieved person can forgive. Erika can forgive the hurt caused her, but only Charlie can forgive his murder. Since he is not currently here ....
As I said Erika can forgive the hurt caused her. Absolutely she has been aggrieved. However, she cannot forgive on behalf of Charlie. Only Charlie can do that.
She does not need to pretend or be concerned with Charlie! He's with His Savior, he's already forgiven everything, including his killer. Let there be no doubt! How can we expect to be forgiven, if we aren't willing to forgive?
I've never been able to forgive a person just once. It takes repeated forgiveness every time the offense comes to mind. But maybe it's different for others.
My encouraging testimony is that my college age son and my high school son have both sought out bible study groups the last two weeks. I have been so encouraged to see them taking this initiative to join Christian community with other men!
I love Charlie and have supported TP for years. I hate what happened to him and his family, and will continue to pray and support. I love President Trump and have always voted for him. But JESUS is our ONLY Savior. Keep our eyes on Him. Remember the warning, “peace and safety”….. (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Just saying.
You seem to be concerned we are seeing human players as our savior. I don't see any of that, but you are entitled to your fears. In fact, Frank Turek laid it out pretty clear in his eulogy when he pointed out that all of the accolades weren't because Charlie was such a great guy and willingly faced danger and was so righteous; the message is that Jesus took on humanity and gave His righteousness so that we might live. For me, it was THE moment of the service.
I thought she was more referring to: "For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them...and they shall not escape." 1 Thess. 5:3
Given how she carefully qualified her approval of the service, the reference given would seem to apply to DJT stating his wish to bring world peace, before the UN.
Fears? You misunderstand. Concern, yes, but concern is not equal to fear. I would say that concern motivated the Turning Point ministry. Concern for His creation and His Father’s glory motivated Jesus. Concern that I stay focused on Jesus and God’s glory motivates me. My admiration for Charlie and President Trump (and a billion other things) has the potential to distract me, and I don’t want it to. That’s what I mean by “just saying”. Charlie was big on critical thinking, which means, question everything. Apply Truth to EVERYTHING. I agree. Truth wins. God owns, authors, IS Truth. But I appreciate your insight.
I am sick of hearing that those of us who are eternally grateful for President Trump and see him as a most undeserved, but awesome gift from God, are guilty of worshipping him.
I keep reading and wanting to clip remarks Jeff. Like this one:
"I am just a lawyer, not a diplomat or a foreign policy expert..." Maybe not Jeff but if you ever decide to "run for office" I'd bet Michelle's Tahoe she would HATE that, but Floridians would be well served.
You're a brilliant lawyer and could be an incredibly effective (and much loved) representative of THE PEOPLE.
I have never witnessed such a powerful combination of proclaimed faith and political clarity as the memorial service for Charlie. It was down right stunning, shocking and unbelievable! And in the midst of the many tears I shed, my inner voice kept screaming hallelujah! Praise God🙏
I go to a wonderful church, Church of His Presence, so I came home right in time for the memorial to start…missed the beginning songs and worship…but it felt like a spent the entire day worshipping our Lord. Couldn’t have had a better Sunday!
Boosted my faith too Torrance. I can just see the left seething with even more hate today but as you said ignore them and shun them. Give them no attention as the want to be on the world stage for attention.
I read your article on AOC and the other morons. It was fantastic. Many of these people causing pain and division are narcissists. Attention, whether positive or negative, is fuel for a narcissist. So ignoring them is an excellent strategy!
Torrance, Thank you for a very well written and highly informative post correcting the lies and erroneous information that Crockett, Tlaib, and OAC were spewing on the sacred halls of Congress. They not only kill brain cells, but they also make me want to throw something at the television. I agree wholeheartedly that Congressmen and Senators should be required to take competency tests. Like a driver's license test but harder.
Leader after leader proclaimed Christ at Charlie’s memorial service. They didn’t just refer to God in some nebulous manner; they boldly shared the gospel. They spoke the name of Jesus. They shared the truth that gives life. Hallelujah!
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“For as the rain and the snow come down from heaven,
And do not return there without watering the earth
And making it bear and sprout,
And giving seed to the sower and bread to the eater,
So will My word be which goes forth from My mouth;
It will not return to Me empty,
Without accomplishing what pleases Me,
And without succeeding in the matter for which I sent it.”
— Isaiah 55:10-11 NAS95
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Spot on as always Janice.
From a British pastor:
My dear American friends,
We British Christians would get excited when, once a year, Queen Elizabeth would make a mild but sincere reference to the love of Jesus Christ in her Christmas address.
In Charlie Kirks' Memorial service, watched by tens of millions, I just heard:
- Multiple clear presentations of the gospel from men like @robmccoyus and @DrFrankTurek with clear calls to repentance and faith
- Worship songs full of Scripture sung by tens of thousands live and millions at home
- Personal testimonies of lives transformed by the work of Christ and the witness of believers
- Demonstration and explanation of the value of marriage, child-rearing and family
- Calls to Romans 13 for the government to bear the sword for the protection of good and punishment of the wicked
- Declarations of spiritual warfare on the forces of evil and promises to endure no matter the cost
- Calls to be prophets and call the nation to repent
- More Scripture references and Bible readings than I can count
- And a widow publicly forgiving her husband's killer because Christ forgave his killers on the cross.
All of it done before, and by, the most powerful people in your nation and the world.
You guys should be on your knees thanking God for your country. It is a light to the world.
Never stop fighting for it.
https://x.com/j_bambrick/status/1969902444474724759
I am so proud of what I saw yesterday. Acknowledgement so clear of Who is the Master of all things and how we must aspire to serve Him in all we do. What a Wow revival yesterday. I expected a somber funeral and we all received this real time declaration of Faith instead.
Even a somber funeral can be a declaration of faith :)
But that's not what they did and all the better. But hey, for those that prefer somber, have at it.
What is the link for?
Not a superbowl spectacle?
This was a SuperGod spectacle and we loved it!
To "Beware of false prophets" means to be cautious of spiritual leaders or teachers who appear righteous but are actually deceptive and dangerous, as they seek to mislead people and lead them astray from truth and genuine faith. This warning, prominent in the Bible, advises believers to judge them by their "fruit"—their true character and actions—rather than their outward appearance or charismatic words.
A "SuperGod spectacle"--Love it!
Hallelujah!
My late husband died at the age of 47 of a very rare neurological disease for which there was no treatment or cure. It was horrific and heartbreaking, diagnosed in June and he died in early Sept. There were so many people that came to the funeral that the church was packed to overflowing and the narthex and parking lot were full of people who stood the entire time to listen to the service and message. The pastor boldly preached the Gospel clearly so many people were impacted by that. Obviously it wasn’t even a fraction of the crowd at Charlie’s memorial service but to my pastor, (and me) the importance of sharing the gospel at a time of grief and heartache is so important because it’s a message of hope and comfort. Death doesn't have the final word.
Beautiful Jeff C… after watching the near destruction of our beautiful American Republic by Obama continued by the Biden admin hell bent on accomplishing the agenda by its destroyers… yesterday’s memorial indeed felt like a revival of hope, prayer and faith… I’m convinced many there and those watching not only felt the Holy Spirit in that stadium, but felt it personally… never saw or felt anything like it
🙏🕊🙏🕊🙏🕊🙏🕊
Trust me, patriotic American give thanks to God every day for what we have. We are also fortunate that this current administration includes many Christians willing to spread the message of Christ and will not be silenced or deterred by MSM or the Left.
Hey goatsR, welcome to C&C!
I do LOVE C&C! Jeff makes me laugh every day. I especially love his asides to Portlanders, explaining concepts that might be difficult for them to understand due to their limited intellectual capacity.
Is Jeff C in Portland? I lived there for a year in 1999 before it went psycho-sideways. It was slightly weird but glorious.
I think he lives in FL. I am not sure if even Jeff could mentally survive the insanity of living in Portland. My very liberal niece just bugged out of there this past summer. Even she had had enough of the nut jobs and insane laws/lawlessness there.
He lives in a huge blue county in Florida.
"psycho-sideways"--that's two good ones in one day--and I've only started reading the comments.
I think the commenter Jeff C is in California. If you’re asking about Jeff Childers, he lives in Gainesville, Florida.
Remember when the show Portlandia was just quaint silly fun? Before they went off the rails?
That was so moving, thanks so much for sharing!
It was so beautiful that no one had to scrounge up a moment when Charlie might have mentioned God. We know what he believed and we know where he is thanks to Christ’s mercy to redeem him and receive him into paradise.
Wow! This pastor's words are humbling and encouraging and... most of all... gives GLORY to our GOD & SAVIOR, JESUS CHRIST.
Thank you, Jeff C, for sharing!
Wow, this comment made me cry and I thought I cried all my tears yesterday…❤️
Thank you for that!! I saw it last night, then lost it on X before I could bookmark. God bless ♥
Hallelujah 🎉
Beautiful response. Thank you❤️🙏
Thank you. You can radiate the light of The Lord God Jesus Christ, too.
Pastor Mark Driscoll put up a tweet regarding the state of the church when a bunch of politicians stated the Gospel more clearly and forcefully than half the pulpits in America. Amen brother.
If your pastor isn't sharing the Gospel as forcefully as Pete Hegseth and Tucker Carlson (two former Fox News hosts of all people) then you really might want to consider another church.
And that’s precisely why I will be leaving my church for another one. My current pastor had two Sundays to say something, anything, about Charlie Kirk and his assassination. But he did not. Charlie didn’t even get a mention in a prayer, let alone merit an entire sermon. Yesterday was my last day there as a Presbyterian. I’m moving on.
I’m sorry Mary Ann. Sadly, I agree with you. Time to move on - when you can’t comment to the elephant in the room along with a majority of hurting people over an assassination something is missing from your leadership & pastoral commitment.
It was a stunning omission.
@Mary Ann- we left our church after our pastor said our granddaughter had no right to be born because her parents weren't married. She's now married, with a home, 2 kids, 2 undergrad degrees and a Masters degree. Our particular congregation closed shortly after that exchangeand we haven't bothered to find a new one. We serve God in other ways.
Wow. That was not a pastor! A pastor is a shepherd! That was a hireling!!!
What insensitivity!
I do hope you’ll find a genuine Bible believing, bible teaching church led by a pastor who loves Jesus & his flock. Being a part of a church family is a joy; in hard times that family holds one up in prayer & action.
We were new in our church when I became seriously ill; quite unexpectedly & sudden. I wasn’t given much chance of surviving. My church family circled up & prayed faithfully & fervently for me & cared for my family too.
Part of that time I wasn’t given much totally unaware.
When I finally recovered & was well enough to attend services the welcoming I encountered was so very sweet.
We had left our previous church & were physically churches for about 2+ yrs. We watched online some fabulous pastors (out of town; but oh so godly shepherds of vibrant churches). But we missed having a local church & pastor.
And visited then joined this wonderful body of believers who are humble servants of God.
Our pastor gathered us together the night Charlie was murdered. He addressed what happened & called it what it was. Charlie was martyred for his faith. He spoke addressing the fears, sadness, horror, etc.
We prayed at our kneeling benches & in pews, wherever. We worshipped. We heard God’s Word.
That Sunday we had a guest pastor whose planned sermon went on, but fit the matter on every heart.
This past Sunday when we had a mini concert by a family who sings, our pastor still preached a wonderful message; this time about Charlie & his boldness, his love for others, his style of speaking about his faith, wanting young people to find true purpose in life, etc. our pastor challenged us to be like Charlie! He talked to our youth, parents, grandparents, all.
Outstanding message!
We departed & went home to watch Charlie’s Memorial.
Good for you. We prayed for Charlie’s family the weds night after it happened. And on Sunday and this Sunday for protection for everyone there and the gospel to go forth
God bless Mary Ann. If you don't mind me asking was it PC (USA) or PCA? PC (USA) has long seemed a lost cause but the PCA seemed to be putting up a fight. I hope it was the former.
I don’t know which branch, but it did close during covid; a few are still wearing masks, communion is served by elders wearing gloves, the organist and several others in prominent positions are openly gay. The organist leaves the sanctuary during times he is not playing. And of course, Charlie Kirk’s name was never spoken. The church was built in 1887 and was first organized around the early 1800s, if that’s any clue.The town it’s in is a red part of rural Pennsylvania, far from Pittsburgh, Penn State, and Philadelphia. Any of that help?
I may sound judgemental, but you just listed several reasons why I personally would leave that church. I go to a tiny Free Will Baptist church. Our preacher has stated numerous times he will not preach politics or tell us how to vote. He preaches only from the Bible. He doesn't preach about current events, but he uses scripture to help us understand and deal with them. I pray that you find a church that meets your needs and expectations.
I may suggest a church on line: cornerstone chapel. net , Pastor Gary Hamrick. You may test him from on line teaching library. Our family listen to him for 3 years and we will never live.
I hope you tell the pastor (and any legal body that governs the church if there is one) that you are leaving / have left, and why. In addition, if you DO succeed in finding a church you like better I think it would be pretty funny to leaflet the cars in the parking lot one Sunday anonymously telling folks that if they want to find a church that does 'x, y and z' they should check out ___(your new church).
Does the preacher preach the Truth in the sermon? My preacher mentioned the numerous atrocities of the last couple of weeks. Then he continued with our study of Genesis. I don't think it was necessary for him to preach about Charlie, he's not our Savior. Yes, he was a good man, he loved God and his family, and he shared the Gospel with many people.
The only church I ever left was one that felt dead, and twisted the Bible. Maybe there are other reasons that you are leaving that church?
No other reason for leaving. I am very attached to that church; I grew up in it and it’s a beautiful sanctuary. But when the nation is grieving and we are beset with so many other profound problems transgenderism, wars, political violence, etc., I think a pastor has an obligation to address them. The Bible is an ancient text that has all kinds of truth to say to the present and how to confront them.
Been sick so haven’t been but I’ve heard that the sermons have been about relevant topics. Haven’t heard of there were any mentions. It’s a small town here and I kinda think they are fairly similar in approach, for the most part.
Tucker laid out personal acknowledgment of our sinfulness and the need for repentance more clearly than I've ever heard from a pulpit.
He can't get fired. I'm just sayin'. ;)
And that is a sad and accurate commentary on the state of the church in America.
Amen, I thought the same!
And don't forget Marco Rubio.
1 Kings 8:60
May all the people of the earth know that the Lord is God; there is no other.
get lost
Reported. I hope everyone else did too
Why are they so afraid of the name Jesus? Media censors both images and praising His name: https://old.bitchute.com/video/bghGGaxmBljY [1min]
The devil is so lame... He is terrified of a name. Anyone who worships this utter loathsome disgrace is a complete moron. ...And just what has the father of lies promised them in return for their idiotic devotion?
IT'S A LIE
The demons within them tremble because they know their own fate.
Beneath the devil
They all assemble
Oh how they'll fry
Oh how they'll tremble...
When I was being pursued by demons in my teens, I learned the mere mention of Jesus’s name made them flee! I feel I lived the book, This present darkness, by Frank Perriti. The spiritual realm is alive and wreaking havoc!!
Funny little anecdote. At one point, I did a lot of reading on "UFO/ alien abductions." Turns out that if one is experiencing an "alien abduction," the incident will immediately stop if you invoke the name of Jesus.
When I was in college I had a scary spiritual encounter. In my head I screamed for Jesus to make it stop. It did. HIS name is powerful.
Good to know! I wonder if it works on rude people. 😂
I think that is where the classic phrases "Well bless your heart" and "I'll pray for you" come from. Like a cross wards off vampires. 🤣
It works on ppl who don't want to hear you talk about Him... Every time.
Here is Gary Bateman's video on that topic: "Abductions halted by the name of Jesus"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Pi90Q6vno
Wow!! Interesting…
I'm going to try that out on my libtard cousins! Wish me luck!😁
🙏🏼 Pray first.
I think of that book every time I hear the lie in my head saying "what will one little prayer from you do??" EVERYTHING.
Frank Perriti, known as the ‘father of intercession.’ Best books on intercession in the form of crippling novels.
They changed the trajectory of my prayer life.
An excellent book that hit me hard! Knowing, and seeing the spiritual battle going on around us and seeing God’s warriors working to protect us! What an eye opener.
It’s not the name Jesus they are terrified of - it is the Power that name has!
The devil buys them with power and wealth.
No worse bargain in the history of eternity...
Our time here barely registers in the context of forever - they better enjoy that counterfeit bliss of "fiat" money and "fake" power offered by the devil while it lasts because they will burn for the rest of it for being so obtuse.
There is no bliss on earth that can compare with heaven. What we consider bliss in the briefest of moments in this plane of existence is a total artificial parody by comparison to what true bliss is. This is a lesson satan worshipers will learn the very very very long and very very very hard way.
When I was seeing my mom pass, after 97 years on this earth, it was so eye opening. I always knew. I was always assured that I was a finite mortal living with an infinite spirit-soul inside me. But, the shell of her, laying there after she was gone was just that. A shell for who we have chosen to be while on this earth.♥
Preach!!!!!
Did you hear Benny Johnson’s speech?
Imho Marco Rubin and Benny Johnson’s were sermons AND a call to arms!
(Arms lifted in prayed, knees bent in worship and intercession!)
CStone, I agree wholeheartedly that God is going to powerfully answer our prayers for intercession and awakening IF we remember Who God is and who we are not. The OT is full of His people falling away, remembering from Whom they had fallen, repenting, and calling on His Name. Yesterday for Charlie was so filled with God's calling. I pray we listen. Most important Sunday service I have ever seen!
2nd Chronicles 7:14: “If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.”
Yet, His very NAME IS POWER!
Unfortunately the images in these videos on social media of all the trash at the memorial are being propagated on foreign mainstream media as an indication of the type of people attendees are. The insinuation is that because they left vast amounts of unsightly trash they aretrash. It's disgusting!
Trash at Charlie Kirk Memorial
https://www.reddit.com/r/Destiny/s/0BKT9A1UZi
Interesting. They never reported all the tons of trash at and around the border when it was being flooded with people storming into our country illegally.
I've been told by a liberal friend that the border invasion was fake, because if it was real, CNN would cover it.
😂🤣😂🤣
Well that's hilarious!!! It's sad how people believe everything CNN..
How does one even respond to comments like this......
@Mary Ann (again!!)- Wanna know how? Visit the family, use their tv under their name, and turn on FOX News. That's what I did to a very liberal family member a few weeks ago. Now when she turns on her tv, one of the suggestions will be FOX News.
I was sitting in the Wash. DC Amtrak station in 2017, and CNN was on and they were covering it.
They were showing miles of people filling some road in Mexico, on their way to the US.
But they were telling us that we were seeing hungry desperate people on their way to the promised land, and we needed to be welcoming.
No one in the station was buying it. There was muttering all around. But I'm sure that a lot of people did buy it. They are out there today protesting sending them back.
(The news reader did the same thing on Jan. 6th. They were showing a bunch of people milling around on the Capitol steps, but they were telling us we were watching a riot.)
Mrs. RW
This friend must be experiencing deep cognitive dissonance because CNN has the pollster who keeps showing the Dems approval ratings in the toilet and DJTs are very positive and they have the super conservative around their round table who slays the libs with truth on a daily basis.
I know! I commented so many times about that ..... no one else seemed as concerned as I.
I came to the conclusion that litter was the outer symptom of a community's dedication to being watchful and good stewards of where they live. Had a stranger behind me at a stop sign during covid with NY plates (i am in rural Idaho) so I got out and went back to his car to see who he was. It's what we do around here. Turns out he was the boyfriend of a neighbor gal, but he was out of place. I said "this must be so different from NY" and his answer was "It is so clean here." I kid you not. I saw him and knew his intent. They disappeared not long after. Oh, did I mention I am not scared of anything? haha
I saw a post claiming the area with trash was where the protesters were. Yes, there were some ghouls there protesting. Bill Melugin reported on it.
There are videos circulating that show people among the trash with placards praising Jesus. There is one entitled "Entitlement on Display," basically slamming the mourners as narcissists. It may be in it. I've tried to find it again but it's disappeared. There are a lot of these videos. It's disgusting.
It should be considered that these photos are past or generated and not in truth.
Unfortunately some of the films are time and date stamped and abc15arizona has reported that the city of Glendale is working to clean up the trash.
I'm very sorry to hear that but then maybe they weren't prepared for so many ppl. Idk. 😑
Awake
I’m sure that can be faked too
Yes but then the city could deny it.
I live in AZ and saw a lot of pictures of the crowd waiting to get in. There are no trash receptacles in any of them. I think the city was completely unprepared for the vast numbers of people who came. There are pictures of large numbers of people leaving because both venues were full by 9:30am. Nobody was allowed to bring in bags or bottles, and AZ was 90 degrees by 9am yesterday, so of course everyone had water bottles. This is just bad planning.
They arrived at 4 a.m. for the memorial service -- tens of thousands.
There was a place across the stared holding another few thousand, watching on Jumbotrons.
"Take heed that no man deceive you."
Destiny's hatred of Charlie and everything he represents is demonic. Prove me wrong.
How could there have been trash when no bags were allowed? I think those are probably photos from some other time. If you're in reddit then confront them
Like the picture of people standing in line at an emergency room because of gunshots dressed in winter clothes in the summer? Remember that?
My question, was there an adequate number of trashcans?
I know firsthand from attending a Trump rally where NOTHING is allowed in,there can never be enough trash cans for the amount of things people have to ditch and unload before entering a building. It happened to be raining that day and you could open an umbrella store with the amount that had to be left behind 😆 not to mention the water bottles and camping chairs, vapes lol Nothing a clean up crew couldn’t handle the next day. Small price to pay!!
That being the case, odds are that as people were leaving they might have been able to reclaim stuff they left as they were going in.
And so we pray, Father, let the scales fall off their eyes so they can truly see, before it is too late.
Because there is power in the name of Jesus. The enemy knows it. If you read Revelation God wins. We’re just gonna be on a bumpy road until his return.
There is more power in the name of "YAHVEH", the one that Yashuah (Jesus) prays to.
That's really interesting. Thank you, TriTorch, for bringing the receipts.
Yes, an intentional Revival and what a beautiful way to celebrate and honor Charlie's life. I was gobsmacked seeing leaders profess faith in Christ out loud and proud reiterating how we must center our lives and govt around the Almighty! I am sure the left was having apoplexy.
Apoplexy from awareness that "something really big" is happening, combined with their cardiac/neuro damage done by the shots: recipe for a shortened life.
Yes, their religion is Vaccines unfortunately.
Amen!!! It was beautiful!
And the unbelievers acknowledging the Lord!
Praise the Lord! I did not watch any of it live, but I listened to Erika Kirk’s speech this morning, and just played the Marco Rubio clip Jeff shared. God is doing amazing things, to Him be all the glory.
Go to YouTube and you can watch the speeches.
Marco Rubio and Benny Johnson’s was amazing….
RSBN has all of the speeches. Go to Trump Rallies. That's where they are. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.maz.combo3578
To "Beware of false prophets" means to be cautious of spiritual leaders or teachers who appear righteous but are actually deceptive and dangerous, as they seek to mislead people and lead them astray from truth and genuine faith. This warning, prominent in the Bible, advises believers to judge them by their "fruit"—their true character and actions—rather than their outward appearance or charismatic words.
ever occur to you that we shall know people by their fruit, not by their words?
What then? Only that in every way, whether in pretense or in truth, Christ is proclaimed; and in this I rejoice. - Philippians 1:18 NAS95
This was fruit. Boldly proclaiming the gospel in response to an act of pure evil, an act that could be repeated against many of the people speaking, is a fruit. Much safer personally and politically for many of them if they'd just said something kind about Charlie and left it at that.
When one is speaking at a funeral, words are all that one has. Should they all have been required to present a resumé proving their “fruit” in real life? Perhaps judged by a panel with 👍👎 signs before they could proceed? Whether or not each speaker was sincere in his heart (“whether in pretense or in truth”), Christ was boldly proclaimed to a massive international audience. It was amazing.
The fruit trees in Genesis arrived on the third day, already bearing fruit. Ever since, we've had to wait several years before finding the fruit.
“The day you plant the seed is not the day you eat the fruit.” I don’t know who I am quoting but it seems appropriate.
I start by noting God has not, and never will make me judge of anyone's spiritual condition; other than my own.
Some of the same leaders who were speaking of Jesus support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit. We know them by their fruits. Remember, when Jesus cast out demons they would proclaim who Jesus is.
Here's a question, the people living today, that this applies to, do they realize this is how they will be received by Christ?
"Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.”
Matthew 7:21-23
“I know thy works, that thou art neither cold nor hot: I would thou wert cold or hot. So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.”
Revelation 3:15-16
Yes, Amen indeed. I did not see this event but from the comments above was wondering when all of these government officials/leaders were saved.
Take the time to at least listen to some of them, and then decide....
I didn't see it either but it was all over X and every right-leaning site so I got a good dose of opinions.
You say you didn't see it (I'm assuming didn't listen to it either) yet you had quite a lengthy opinion above, even quoting scripture............????
What did I say that you disagree with?
You said you didn't see the event, yet you stated "Some of the same leaders who were speaking of Jesus (at the event) support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit. We know them by their fruits. Remember, when Jesus cast out demons they would proclaim who Jesus is."
I'm not going to assume I know which leaders you speak of that support and impose death & destruction nor WHO the innocent people are... much less who is profiting off them... but I gather you're implying that just as the demons knew Jesus, these leaders also know Jesus and you're equating them with demons... Quite a mouthful from someone who didn't see/hear the event....
I’m sure you are talking about Gaza.
Guess whose fault that is?
It is not the fault of our leaders, it is the fault of HAMAS.
"...support and impose death & destruction on innocent people; for profit..."
Let's see. Right off the bat I can think of BigPharma and the medical "industry" that for several years now has been imposing and profiting from the death and destruction of Americans caused by the bio-weapon jab. Oh, and then there is the NeoCon war and money laundering profiteering in Ukraine which lines the pockets of the MIC. That's just for starters! And you think it's all about Gaza? Little defensive there, aren't you?
No, Christ's condemnation goes way beyond Gaza. We have more than enough sins to account for right here in the USA. Just for example, the legalization of child murder in 1973 has resulted in 70 MILLION murder babies through abortion. As for Gaza, that's on Israel and Netanyahu. I'll make an analogy that even the simple should understand. A member of a competing family murders a member of my extended family. Does that then justify my family then taking up arms to kill every member of the competing family and then, since their house is now empty (though covered in blood), we move into their house and their land expelling anyone who managed to stay alive? God's law, the absolute definition of morality, applies to everyone. Israel and Netanyahu do NOT have a divine exception to God's law.
Defend him all you want but God will hold everyone accountable to His Law. See Psalms 1 and 2.
Not any one, specific conflict, there are several. As for the M E conflict, I don't trust either side. From what I can tell both are guilty of war crimes.
Amen
I continue to be gob-smacked by these political figures giving witness to their faith. Who'da thunk?
It was so encouraging.
Thank you for sharing, Janice.
Amen! 😍 🙏🏽🔥💕
Janice you always say the most succinct word using your keen abilities
But, more importantly, you always choose the most appropriate scripture verses.
Thank you!
Thank you for those encouraging words, Elaine. God bless you!
I haven’t fully watched, so it gives me peace to hear words such as Marco Rubio’s weren’t the only one. Thank you 🙏
I had to work yesterday, so I have only seen a few of the incredible God filled speeches. I am totally awed and feel as if I saw the parting of the Red Sea. I think Dr. Dobson had a chat with God because what I have seen so far was an extraordinary act of God - Be assured that He is fully aware of what we are encountering here in this life and divine intervention took place at the Charlie Kirk service. I can't wait to watch the rest of the ceremony. My deepest condolences to Erika and the Kirk family.
- They created the abomination called Cancel Culture.
- They gave it food, water and shelter.
- They nurtured it.
- They taught it what to do.
- They taught it who to employ.
- They taught it who to target.
- They released it into society.
- They celebrated its global success as it completely devoured thousands who had the audacity to voice a different opinion from its programmed narrative(s).
- They were deeply chagrined when its agents missed several opportunities to extinguish a mortal enemy and, arguably, the most popular People’s President ever.
- They rejoiced when it - and one of its gutless cowardly accomplices - callously snuffed out the life of an innocent, kind, decent, honorable family man in the most dishonorable fashion.
- Now, it has turned on them, chowing down on the career of a singular talentless propped up late night arrogant gasbag, and suddenly it’s become the greatest scourge of our times. After a quick stop at the Torch and Pitchfork retail franchise they hit the streets en masse in relentless pursuit of the brazen apostate that has abruptly escaped their charge.
They’re too jaundiced to see this double standard, too busy chasing their tales to capture the irony and too cold-blooded and self-absorbed to care.
When they took out Charlie they didn't realize they we're taking down the biggest tree in the forest. The ensuing reverberation will be long lasting.
Yeah, well, they tried to bury us, but they didn't realize we were the seeds.
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Excellent Ryan! I am reminded of the benefit of pine forest fires. The heat from the flames makes the cones explode and the seeds inside are dispersed throughout the charred but fertile ground. Let us grow deep roots of faith and by the grace of God, produce the fruit of His Holy Spirit.
Good one Ryan.
Later Jay
You need to publish a “poetry” book full of your comments from here. Title it “History: Musings and Insights From a Firsthand Witness”. Sure there won’t be stanzas and rhyming like traditional poetry, but it will match the delicious brevity, and when you think deeper on what you read you will see the same beauty as a “rhyme”. It would be an enjoyable book to consume in the same way one consumes a poetry book, with the same depth and inspiration.
I’ll talk to my publisher, should he ever come out of hiding. “Musings and Insights from a Common Sense Conservative Conspiracy Theorist Who's Running Out of Conspiracies That Haven't Come True.” Too wordy?
You have to add (Yet). 😄
Yes!!! And it could be as soon as you open the book, large, BOLD letters “YET”!!!!!
🤣🤣👍👍 I like it. Lol
Sounds like the name of a Salvador Dali painting 😆😁
I love it!!!!
The word "conspiracy" comes from the Latin verb cōnspīrāre, meaning "to breathe together." Call it "Breathless." But wasn't that the name of a classic movie? Anyway, it's too subtle, isn't it.
Eric/Juju, I have been thinking that same thought about Jeff’s writing and Eric’s among others. I think AI is key tool to get this accomplished. Working on it with someone smarter than me. Shhh..don’t tell anyone.
I miss your stack Eric but I know that I can always find you here. ❤️
Ok, THAT ^^^^ was the best thing I read today on the topic of the realities of the left’s corrupting influence. Bless you for your insight, light, and creativity. May we all be inspired to stand up strongly as Charlie did in the wake of the reverberation from his downed tree.
They always eat their own.
Out of the asses of chickens….
Out of the asses of chickens come golden deliciousness, the essential staple of the entire world. The simple egg. 🤔 hmmm
All bow to the chicken ass and its life giving properties.
@Eric- I just spit my coffee out at that one!!
Oh no!!!….The power of the chicken ass is multifaceted. Be careful.
Originally from Asia, dispersed around the world by the Roman Empire.
Decreed by Julius Tyson. A long lineage to follow.
My sons would thank the Roman Empire, as they L.O.V.E. their "blanquillos" for their beautiful lean protein... as wrestlers, it's a MUST!
Spot on, Eric! 👏👏👏
Please read this substack from AND magazine. The author is a former CIA analyst - but one of the good ones. He says that we are at high danger of civil war, and the mainstream left does not realize that the target is the entire US, not just conservatives.
One tidbit he cites is that a post that was more-or-less celebrating Charlie Kirk's murder on a Stanford University site got upvoted by 17% of students.
There's other good stuff you have not heard of yet:
https://andmagazine.substack.com/p/who-will-they-kill-next
Honestly, my response is, defund 100% the Universities. Profs need to learn that without money from parents, grants, trusts, and redistributed tax money their safe space bubble would not exist. Make them find a job in the “real world.”
My goodness sir. You so captured the moment so eloquently. Thank you, as always, for your view and voice
I appreciate it. Thanks.
In the immediate aftermath of Charlie’s assassination, I saw a TikTok of a lunatic, gleeful woman asserting that this was the perfect killing because Charlie was a minor figure on the right and thus couldn’t be made a martyr.
I hope that despicable excuse for a human being was forced to watch his memorial service.
Makes one wonder if these are human beings or ‘other’.
True. Though at some point humans have to input, I would think.
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Poetically stated!
They are ‘left’ with the most deviant dregs of society.
I pray that if any of those ‘dregs’ eyes are covered in scales so that they cannot see, that our SAVIOR will let the scales fall from their eyes and be saved and made whole!!
Yes and more yes Eric! They now out themselves (again and continuously) with their reactions to one of the most moving moments in American history. Those that don’t see the truth of what you penned are truly dancing with the devil. I loved Erika - remembering that Charlie said - everything we do in this life leaves a mark on our souls. That hit me and I’m gonna refocus on my issues and let THEM deal with their own. Or at least that’s my plan. Thanks Eric!
Gosh, this is so perfect and so brilliantly written. Thank you!
Thanks 🙂
I''m not sure it was sports subsidizing as much as a spigot directly from USAID...also propping up Colbert and the other unfunny leftist mouthpieces.
Apply this theory across the board. It's in every mainstream media outlet, every show, every institution, every sector.
Some critics think that the memorial was idolizing Charlie Kirk, but what part of that clip of Rubio's speech elicited a massive cheer from the crowd? Was it about Charlie? No, it was about Jesus Christ rising from the dead. Amen.
Agree 💯 It was a funeral service and memorial for a man taken from his family and friends way too soon. That's not idolizing.
And about continuing his work which is spreading the truth and the Gospel!!
Yes! Amen 🙏
A memorial service for a person who died is likely to be about the person who died. But even so, Charlie’s was so Jesus-focused!
A memorial service, Praising & Worshipping the King of Heaven, Jesus.... proclaiming His gospel of Salvation, exalting the Name above all names and reminding humanity world-wide where we are heading to... our Father's House!
The incredible display of faith was so encouraging after the 4 years of demonic darkness under Biden.
How many adjectives can I use... It was simply the most excruciating, uplifting, hope filled, glorious, faith filled, honoring, comforting, challenging days of my life! Please feel free to add your words of choice.
And when his wife said “I forgive him.”
It was the most gut/heart wrenching, HELL-defying moment I have ever seen.
I had a feeling she would do that!🥲
The only part I watched live & oh my heart. Wow. Just incredible. She forgave because Jesus would have forgave & Charlie would have forgave.
You covered it!
I thought so too
It was Kathleen, we serve an awesome God.
True story.
Kathleen, What do you think about Candace Owens not being allowed to speak?
Candace points to hate and conspiracy and evil and division thru self righteous arrogance.
Charlie enthusiastically and unashamedly pointed others humbly to his Lord and Savior-
She is not deserving to speak on his behalf. They have too much grace to say it out lid but the fruit of the spirit reveals
That was an excellent decision.
We all know she would have gone off on a hate-laced rant. His wife was wise to eliminate her.
Not sure. Unaware of her history with him.
I never understood what happened to her either.
Kathleen, he fired her from TPUSA when she started going off the rails.
OK, thanks for the info. I was not aware of the circumstances.
How does The Boss do it all? Last week meeting with the British royalty. Then attending the massive Charlie Kirk memorial service. Now about to give the UN a lashing, AND preside over an autism announcement. We are blessed to have been allowed this reprieve from the insanity of the last four years.
I personally could not watch the services yesterday, I would have cried all day. I kept up with reports.
It is indeed a great time to be alive. I would not have said that a year ago.
It was long, but beautiful! I cried a lot of forgiveness and bitterness away yesterday.
When Erika publicly forgave him, I was absolutely amazed. What an example of Grace under pressure.
Her face said it all - forgiveness is not easy, not possible without Jesus. Like grief, it’s a process.
Erika remembers, as we all do: "I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me." Philippians 4:13 KJB
Me too. We forgive and never forget.
@KC- I'm still working on the forgiveness part on many scenarios in my life. Erika, and parents whose children are murdered, are better people than I am.
Unlike God Who does forgive and remembers no more - as far as the East is from the West! Erika is living testimony to God's forgiving power.
I think it is grace for the moment that we cannot understand until we are in the moment.
It definitely made us cry all day. Well worth it though - felt like my soul needed that cleansing cry after these past two weeks of overpowering emotions.
Its called the Power of God. Just like Charlie, Trump has relentless energy and a powerful work ethic.
I do believe Trump was raised up for a time such as this. In a Biblical sense, he has been used to restore justice to our nation, and preside over a spiritual awakening.
Yes. That doesn’t mean he is our spiritual leader. I don’t look to him for confirmation of my faith or spiritual guidance. It seems all those who hate him think those of us who agree with many of his actions see him as a cult leader. So exasperating!
I agree.
I couldn't watch it either. My heart is broken for him and his children.... it's not that I won't watch one day but I can't watch it now. I did wear one of my Charlie Kirk shirts all day though.
When you watch it, it will be a cleansing for your spirit.
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I was most impressed in the beginning with the TPUSA employees and friends of Charlie speaking. Very touching. And I particular liked Dr. Larry Arnn, President of Hillsdale College. Here it is.
https://youtu.be/HU2IV9LAnQI?si=9bpeh7nxz0OueVue
I liked Dr Arnn as well, but I have been supporting Hillsdale College for years. I get their Imprimis newsletter every month and have taken their free online courses. What a college should be. Dr Arnn to young Charlie, “You haven’t suffered enough”. Prophetic.
Thank you Beckadee
You are welcome Dave.
Yes. Thank you!
Oh, you should watch. It was moving and inspiring.
I did watch some clips yesterday evening, yes very moving, a catharsis for many. I cry easily, but it is a good thing.
All guys cry easily, especially at home or in the dark. You're right: It's a good thing.
It’s definitely GOOD THING!!! Soft hearted !!!
Stacy Sheridan is another TPUSA employee. You will cry on this one too.
https://salemnewschannel.com/watch/stacy-sheridan-speaks-at-charlie-kirks-memorial-service-68d04e9b6dc68ca9c97cf3db
On that website under Top Videos they have all the individual speakers. Ben Carson and Rebecca Dunn were also worth watching. High caliber group of people there.
Dave, same here, I could not watch yesterday, but I played Erika Kirk’s remarks this morning. That is a must-watch if you haven’t already. Praise the Lord.
Dave, it was beautiful.
Yes, and I will go back and watch some soon.
It was a Kleenex box day for me!
Yes, you probably would have shed some tears, as I did, but would have come away from it feeling a stronger sense of faith and purpose.
I came home from church, turned on tv to watch and ended up watching for 6 hours. I couldn’t stop, it was so beautiful to take it all in. The Christian performers sang some of my favorite songs. The crowds singing along. Then one speaker after another kept crushing it. Each had something special to share and every speaker shared their faith openly. President Trump speaking last and ending with asking Erica to join him was so touching. He truly was comforting and she seemed so gracious. The whole tribute made me so proud to be an American and see the beginning of a revival for our country. We are truly blessed to have such strong moral leadership that was so badly needed.
Thank you for sharing that with us Ruth.
You’re welcome Dave. It was a beautiful uplifting show of faith.
He does it by compromising his health. He doesn't look well.
Jeff Childers wrote, "Folks, I don’t want to call anyone out or throw stones here, but anybody on our side criticizing the memorial for being irreligious is not really on our side."
Amen brother. I've been saying for ages there are plenty of bad-faith actors supposedly on our side. You can spot them instantly in their lies. They will change their tune on a dime if they think a new approach might be more influential. They will twist and exaggerate words beyond comprehension. They will put words into other people's mouths that never came anywhere close to what they actually said.
Some of them are just garden variety sociopaths, but I really think some are much darker than that. They are demon possessed and recoil at the mention of Christ's name. Satan is the father of all lies as the Bible tells us, and these people lie so shamelessly and fluidly it almost seems supernatural.
The Bible tells us to constantly exercise discernment, to judge people by their fruits, and to quite literally *hate* evil. We are not supposed to pleasantly smile and quietly ignore these demons in our presence. You will know them by their lies as they revel in them.
Edit: typo
Amen. That statement, from Jeff, hit me hard. I see them as wolves in sheep clothing. Beware.
“Even from your own number men will arise and distort the truth in order to draw away disciples after them.”
Acts 20:30
God is making the distinction between the good and the bad very evident and when the day comes will make his cleanup day very easy.
He will separate the Wheat from the Chaff
Sort of like separating the wheat from the tares? ;-)
Weeds among the wheat. Separate, tie up, burn.
Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? I am far from irreligious, but the lack of critical thinking here, and the defiant refusal to ask pertinent questions about this so-called shooter is deeply troubling to me.
THIS is what is troubling people. We are not naysayers or nitpickers.
I love to see the outpouring of faith. And I loved Tucker’s highly sophisticated speech. It was perfect for the moment. (Who killed Jesus, and why?)
Let’s not accept the rush to judgment on who did it, who was behind it, or what the motives were. Due process is called for. ⚖️✝️⚖️
I think you need to reread what I quoted from Jeff Childers and what I wrote. It was not in regards to questioning the current explanation, but specifically about people on our side criticizing the memorial.
Grace to you my friend, but when arguing against things that weren't said it *appears* to be exactly what I was talking about above ("They will put words into other people's mouths that never came anywhere close to what they actually said").
I think you are reacting to what others may have said, not me, and hopefully mean this comment in good faith. We all have questions, few of us are satisfied with the official explanation. But please use caution as this type of name-calling (lack of critical thinking) and misdirection (false arguments against things not said) are exactly the tactics of the enemy.
No one ‘killed’ Jesus.
He GAVE His life.
In John 10:18, Jesus states: "No one takes it from Me, but I lay it down of My own accord. I have authority to lay it down and authority to take it up again. This charge I have received from My Father." (ESV).
Thank you. Reason without faith is monstrous. Faith without reason is blind. With timing perfect for Charlie's memorial, we're told now by his surgeon that Charlie stopped a bullet with over 2000 lbs velocity. Stopped it cold because his bones were that dense. This does not honor Charlie. This disgraced him. More here: https://youtu.be/1KrEkMkAiVI?si=Q3WCqslKtVVs0xVw.
It shows the power of Almighty God.
If it had exited, killing other people, it would have changed the conversation.
If God’s people had repented when the Father had been calling for such a long time, it could be that no one would have had to suffer the death of a martyr.
Instead, Adonai wanted us focused on Charlie’s message of Salvation and hope.
If GOD had not stopped that bullet, it could be that, instead of falling to our knees and repenting, praising and honoring YESHUA, we would be in the beginning of a civil war.
When I realized that the blood of martyrs have marked guillotines, and that Charlie is a martyr, my grief turned into astonishment.
What an HONOR it would be, to be a martyr for the Cause of CHRIST!!!!
And they fit in well with Antifa and the like. They are out and about on the internet, trying to sow division and discord. They can pretend to be anybody or anything.
I watched the whole memorial. Erika’s grief and faith forgiveness were unmatched, but my favorite was her description of her husband in death; the gray hair, the half smile. He blinked and he was with His Savior.
I am still sorting through all the eulogies, but two of my personal favorites were Tucker Carlson and Tulsi Gabbard’s because I did not expect either to dwell distinctly on Charlie’s faith, the over arching reason he could go forward with such fervor.
And lastly, Amazing Grace done by bagpipes. Gets me every time, perhaps because it’s used so often for fallen warriors.
The memorial was long but rewarding. I too watched the whole thing, and the speeches were astounding. A crescendo began with Tucker Carlson and I thought no one would top that but they just kept going with Tulsi Gabbard, Marco Rubio and Pete Hegseth. All of them were beyond anything I expected, but I was truly blown away by Marco.
Yeah and Tulsi talking about God and reading a Bible verse?!!?!
Wow! I have not yet heard her remarks, but have been been praying for Tulsi, for God to open her heart to the truth of the Gospel of Jesus Christ. And also for Kash Patel.
That’s who I have been praying for!!!!!!
Matthew 18:19&20
19 Again I say unto you, That if two of you shall agree on earth as touching any thing that they shall ask, it shall be done for them of my Father which is in heaven.
20 For where two or three are gathered together in my name, there am I in the midst of them.
We were acquainted with Mike Gabbard when we worked on a Traditional Marriage bill in Hawaii. Mike is a Catholic, so we assume Tulsi was raised in the Christian tradition. Praying that she is returning to the faith.
Yes she was sworn in on a Hindu document
I don’t think she was sworn in on a bible. I should look it up. Neither was Kash. Thanks for your prayers.
I feel like Marco is going to be our President someday.
I hope so.
My god Narco Rubio....a little war monger sycophant who will do whatever the powers that be tell him.
Sigh.
Hello Eeyore…….
I see you’re still working with Antifa.
I’m surprised you haven’t volunteered to go to Ukraine and fight.
Why not?
Too afraid to actually FIGHT for what you believe in?
Hmmmmm???
You mean the Ukraine war your boy Narco has voted to fund over and over and over? That one? Enjoy clown town.
My husband and I thought the same thing about Marco. He was succinct, logical, sincere, and passionate, all at the same time. Hearing him made me really glad he and Trump buried the hatchet and he’s serving in this administration.
Agree...bagpipes...chills.
I also loved her description of a wife.
Dena, yes! The world hates that, but it’s biblical Truth.
Me too! Her call to young men and husbands -fathers and then to women was so powerful. I’ll be re-watching that taking notes. Huge impact on me personally.
I loved RFK’s speech. I may be in the minority but I thought President Trump’s speech was rambling and not appropriate for the memorial. You can tell he normally speaks off the cuff but he should’ve went with prepared remarks and not made it into a stump speech.
I had the opposite response. I thought that for a Trump speech, he did a good job keeping the focus on Charlie.
My husband watched the memorial; I did not. He off-handedly commented that someone needed to remind Trump this was not a political rally.
Charlie would have been thrilled by all of it. I can just see his big grin and excitement. ❤️
Sour grapes are so unattractive, especially at a time like this.
Even his prepared remarks can sound off the cuff. That’s his style. He was very honest when talking about he’s not ready to forgive his enemies. That Charlie was a better at that than him.
Yes that part was fine but overall his speech was long, rambling, and off topic many times
Have you ever liked anything Trump did or said?
Why would you like this?
You’re ridiculous and deranged if you assume that from one comment. I’m
Not enough up any politicians backside not to be able to acknowledge when they hit a home run vs a swing and a miss
Why do you think I’m going off just one comment?
Also I don’t have my head up anyone’s backside enough not to see the things that I agree with and the things I don’t and am able to be objective. As the Bible says I don’t worship any man, sometimes the politician worship on here gets a little out of hand
Okay 🙄
Sometimes the utter ignorance of how we were pulled back from a cliff of destruction and the complete lack of gratitude gets out of hand.
LMWC…. OMG YES!!! “The pipes the pipes were calling”… gets my Irish Celt heart every time… 😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭💔
That service was amazing and I have never seen one like that in out country before. From the praise and worship to the pastors, friends, co-workers to the several leaders of the free world - all sharing Jesus Christ as Lord for that many hours to that many people worldwide! I couldn’t move. I was worshiping and crying throughout. I am still in awe!
One thing that really struck me is when the crowd sang "Gratitude" together...
So I throw up my hands
And praise You again and again
'Cause all that I have is a hallelujah
Hallelujah
And I know it's not much
But I've nothing else fit for a King
Except for a heart singing hallelujah
Hallelujah
I know this song (as I'm sure many on here do) as we sing it at church occasionally and I regularly listen to Christian radio. But it surprised me that nearly everyone at the service seemed to know it. I think the extent of this current revival is much deeper than we realize.
Your comment rings true! I read so many comments from folks saying it was awesome how many knew the words to every praise song! I, myself, wasn't so surprised because I've been to their concerts. Everyone sings!
Absolute chills! When we sing that song in church, I always become overwhelmed by emotion by everyone singing, and raising their hands around me! Seeing this during a memorial for Charlie Kirk warmed my heart more than ever! Praise Jesus!
It was more than words can describe!
Hearing the gospel of Jesus Christ being boldly proclaimed throughout Charlie's service was incredible! Surely a harvest of souls came into God's kingdom as a result and I have no doubt Charlie was watching with joy. What the enemy meant for evil and destruction, God turned for His glory.
I can say with certainty that the worship portion alone reached MANY watching.
I used to belong to a church that was known as a “mega church” but was decidedly different than all the rest across the country because they refused to carry unnecessary debt and paid off any building loans (the ONLY debt they allowed) in under four years, so they had 100% of their tithe income available to serve God almost all of the time. They were the only mega church in America debt-free. That says a LOT. I worked in the finance department and prepared the board reports, and I saw not a single questionable penny spent, or a single salary inflated. The leadership was authentically and humbly following God and placing His will ahead of their own desires all the time. The worship portion of that church was identical to Kirk’s memorial, where people chosen to lead the singing also were authentic, not self-absorbed or preoccupied by how they appeared to the congregation, but wholly devoted to worshipping God and elevating Him alone, not themselves, so that everyone saw God and not them, and I saw how just that part of our service led so many people to Christ.
Yesterday when I watched the worship portion I was in tears the entire time, amazed that what I had been blessed to have experience myself in our little city of our country was being broadcast to the ENTIRE world. Satan constantly worked hard to find a way to destroy our church, because like Charlie its effectiveness was an unbelievable threat to our area, and still … the same authentic spirit that it had was able to reach the world yesterday through Charlie’s memorial. 100x more authentic than even what I was shepherded in. They chose well who to lead the worship. If anything, anyone that did not watch should put on the worship portion each morning while starting your day and bathe in the beauty of praising and worshipping the one, true God.
God is excellence. So of course those working for Him for the right reasons in the right way will exude excellence. When praise and worship is “concert quality” that is not a negative in and of itself. It depends on the performers and whether or not you are led to focus on them … or on God. The truly good ones fade into the background so God is in the foreground. That’s an excellence I get behind.
1 Kings 8:60
May all the people of the earth know that the Lord is God; there is no other.
I have tears in my coffee this morning reading about Charlie Kirk's Memorial. I was traveling back from a two week trip to Europe yesterday, so missed the live streams etc. Our trip involved retracing the route of my buddy's dad through WWII, including Normandy, Bastogne (Battle of the Bulge) and the march through the German Ruhr Valley, heart of the Nazi war machine's weapons production. It included many stops at Military Cemeteries. If you think for one minute there is not evil walking this planet, I challenge you to go to one of those and come away thinking otherwise. And for Erika Kirk to have the Christian Faith to forgive her husband's assassin also tells me that our Righteous Lord and Savior is also hard at work to defeat that evil. Erika is a far better human than I. I'm not sure I have that Grace. I'll work on it. The Peace of The Lord be with all our C&C Family.
I'm working on it as well but as a commentor pointed out, forgiveness involves the sinners' repentance so... Yeah.
I'm not there yet.
God offers forgiveness before we repent. He died on the cross for all, including those of us not yet born when he was crucified. We must repent to receive what he has already offered. He's holding it out. It is up to us to take it or reject it.
And just so, we forgive others, for the sake of our own soul. We forgive them as God forgives us, offering it to them. It is up to them to repent and accept what we offer, or not, for their own sake.
We can’t conflate our human forgiveness with God’s forgiveness. Erika specifically mentioned that the answer to hate is love. She has forgiven the killer to spare herself the caustic effects of hate and bitterness.
This does not pardon the killer from suffering the consequence of his actions under a just government.
He must also repent and deal with his Maker personally to have eternal forgiveness.
I think sometimes we are called to forgive those who never repent.
I agree. For our own sake.”Lest a root of bitterness sprout up within us.”
The Torah makes it clear that only the aggrieved person can forgive. Erika can forgive the hurt caused her, but only Charlie can forgive his murder. Since he is not currently here ....
Good grief! You think Erika is not aggrieved?
As I said Erika can forgive the hurt caused her. Absolutely she has been aggrieved. However, she cannot forgive on behalf of Charlie. Only Charlie can do that.
Did she claim she could?
The Father is aggrieved when His Instructions/Commandments are ignored.
She does not need to pretend or be concerned with Charlie! He's with His Savior, he's already forgiven everything, including his killer. Let there be no doubt! How can we expect to be forgiven, if we aren't willing to forgive?
I've never been able to forgive a person just once. It takes repeated forgiveness every time the offense comes to mind. But maybe it's different for others.
My encouraging testimony is that my college age son and my high school son have both sought out bible study groups the last two weeks. I have been so encouraged to see them taking this initiative to join Christian community with other men!
I didn't realize how many students here were believers until Charlie died. They're all over the place!
I love Charlie and have supported TP for years. I hate what happened to him and his family, and will continue to pray and support. I love President Trump and have always voted for him. But JESUS is our ONLY Savior. Keep our eyes on Him. Remember the warning, “peace and safety”….. (1 Thessalonians 5:3). Just saying.
You seem to be concerned we are seeing human players as our savior. I don't see any of that, but you are entitled to your fears. In fact, Frank Turek laid it out pretty clear in his eulogy when he pointed out that all of the accolades weren't because Charlie was such a great guy and willingly faced danger and was so righteous; the message is that Jesus took on humanity and gave His righteousness so that we might live. For me, it was THE moment of the service.
I thought she was more referring to: "For when they say, "Peace and safety!" then sudden destruction comes upon them...and they shall not escape." 1 Thess. 5:3
Given how she carefully qualified her approval of the service, the reference given would seem to apply to DJT stating his wish to bring world peace, before the UN.
Thank you.
Fears? You misunderstand. Concern, yes, but concern is not equal to fear. I would say that concern motivated the Turning Point ministry. Concern for His creation and His Father’s glory motivated Jesus. Concern that I stay focused on Jesus and God’s glory motivates me. My admiration for Charlie and President Trump (and a billion other things) has the potential to distract me, and I don’t want it to. That’s what I mean by “just saying”. Charlie was big on critical thinking, which means, question everything. Apply Truth to EVERYTHING. I agree. Truth wins. God owns, authors, IS Truth. But I appreciate your insight.
I am sick of hearing that those of us who are eternally grateful for President Trump and see him as a most undeserved, but awesome gift from God, are guilty of worshipping him.
That is a lie from hell!
I didn’t say that, either. I think we’re on the same side.
Sorry. I get what you’re saying. Maybe we are approaching that time.
Well, it’s God’s story to write. I hope so. Things like Charlie’s death make me long for Home.
Likewise.
“The angels beckon me from heaven’s open door,
And I can’t feel at home in this world anymore.”
I keep reading and wanting to clip remarks Jeff. Like this one:
"I am just a lawyer, not a diplomat or a foreign policy expert..." Maybe not Jeff but if you ever decide to "run for office" I'd bet Michelle's Tahoe she would HATE that, but Floridians would be well served.
You're a brilliant lawyer and could be an incredibly effective (and much loved) representative of THE PEOPLE.
Jeff would make a terrible politician. He would have to spend his whole time in office learning how to lie convincingly.
I have never witnessed such a powerful combination of proclaimed faith and political clarity as the memorial service for Charlie. It was down right stunning, shocking and unbelievable! And in the midst of the many tears I shed, my inner voice kept screaming hallelujah! Praise God🙏
Great observations. I don't know for anyone else, but the service yesterday just boosted my faith.
As far as the demonic haters out there:
Giving them attention is exactly what they want. so ignore them and let them bounce off the padded walls of their own echo chambers.
For a chuckle or two, do consider reading what I wrote about AOC and other radicalized progressive lunatics, and leave a comment.
https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/alexandria-ocasio-cortez-and-other
I go to a wonderful church, Church of His Presence, so I came home right in time for the memorial to start…missed the beginning songs and worship…but it felt like a spent the entire day worshipping our Lord. Couldn’t have had a better Sunday!
Boosted my faith too Torrance. I can just see the left seething with even more hate today but as you said ignore them and shun them. Give them no attention as the want to be on the world stage for attention.
I read your article on AOC and the other morons. It was fantastic. Many of these people causing pain and division are narcissists. Attention, whether positive or negative, is fuel for a narcissist. So ignoring them is an excellent strategy!
Evil people hate it when good people gather together.
Spot on, as usual!
Torrance, Thank you for a very well written and highly informative post correcting the lies and erroneous information that Crockett, Tlaib, and OAC were spewing on the sacred halls of Congress. They not only kill brain cells, but they also make me want to throw something at the television. I agree wholeheartedly that Congressmen and Senators should be required to take competency tests. Like a driver's license test but harder.
Anytime ma'am. Thanks for reading. Do come back.