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Barbls's avatar

Hey Florida Man: minus 2 degrees is easy peasy in the upper midwest! LOL Two days ago in this vicinity it was minus 24. The Iowans will get there to vote.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I'm at the point where I suspect everything now. Call me paranoid and I'll plead guilty. Having watched all the evidence for the chemtrail spraying including the "lines" in our beautiful FL skies, I find it highly coincidental that this atypical freeze hit the midwest right when Iowa is suppose to turn out the vote. Weather manipulation being weaponized? Here in the panhandle, today the skies are crystal blue for the first time in some time. We'll see how long this lasts before the lines come back.

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SadieJay's avatar

Yes! 100%. And...I mentioned it to someone and they are like "what, the trails from the airplanes?" I just can't even nowdays. Imagine...blue skies? Did you see that NH put a bill forward that will ban the cloud seeding etc? What does DeSantis think when he looks up and sees these trails? Normal stuff? How can you not question? Especially when it is followed by an obvious dimming and graying of our once beautiful blue skies?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Texas is also putting a bill forward to ban chemtrail spraying. I think this may begin to wake a lot of people up who will think, "I thought that was just conspiracy theory. I guess it's not."

If you start looking up, you can't un-see it. Check this out:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C1ypnKuuFFz/?igsh=Z2Y4Njl4NnlodXZ0

Many times when we have prevailing winds at those altitudes that are from the south, the chemtrails will apparently be laid down overnight out over the gulf and by morning the resulting high altitude grey blanket that develops from the lines simply drifts in over land obscuring the sun. You can tell these are not natural clouds if you watch the sky long enough. I've written to DeSantis before about this. He's too busy with politics.

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SadieJay's avatar

100% and it is getting worse. You can tell the chem sprays because they look like the edge of a saw blade as well. I am not stupid, but there are a lot of those idiots out there. Just like every thing else. I swear, here in Sarasota we have had like one bright sunny day since the beginning of the year.

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Politico Phil's avatar

It is getting worse. I've lived here since the mid-80's and being from smog infested CA, the beautiful skies here really impressed me. The contrast to today is stunning when I think about it.

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TimeIsNear's avatar

So did the entire country of Mexico. Who has the authority to fly over every nation and spray it.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I forgot about that!

Who? Money talks and bullshit walks.

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AB's avatar

Can you please link to the NH bill? I went out this morning and the air - again - smells unfresh (chemical, musty). I can’t anymore. Please let’s stop this insanity.

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SadieJay's avatar

Thank you...all I had was that youtube from Geoengineeringwatch.org

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AB's avatar

I always prefer reading to watching. :) Couldn’t find an original source text for the Texas law. I guess it’s still in its early stages

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I, too, prefer to read my "conspiracies"--LOL! Gives me time to "back check" other sources and then "ruminate" on everything I've read and develop my OWN consensus!

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SadieJay's avatar

I prefer reading as well, but this 90 second update from Dane came and I had to watch. His Sunday updates are an hour on youtube and I cannot listen to them. Too long and no video, just an hour of doom. I can only take so much.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

DeSantis has a deep military background - Navy JAG officer - he knows what's going on and he's "OK" with it! I have nothing bad to say about him and he appears to respect our Divinely-inspired U S Constitution.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Story not verified.

https://healthimpactnews.com/2023/americans-beware-what-belies-the-smile-of-ron-desantis/

The thing I am clear on is that DeSantis is a politician. Even in the linked story he played politician. My broad brush strokes this sector of professionals (and are they ever pros) not to be trusted. Even among the generation of America's founders they were not saints. They, like all of us, were complex human beings.

All to say exercise caution when handing over trust to what Jeff characterizes as superman. Not that you've blindly done so. Not saying that at all! Heck, probably don't trust me either, since I'm admittedly riddled with flaws. One thing I can unashamedly identify though, is that my ego is nowhere near the size of office-seekers/power-seekers at any level. Shoot, I cringe at committee work. Probably because I do the work I've committed to, and inevitably end up frustrated with the slackers, and picking up some of the slack. Every time. Since my first group project in 4th grade. Every. blessed. time. Whew. Apologies for the off-track rant that I'm thinking I should edit out but impulse deciding to leave in a stream of consciousness string.🙄 Told you. Flawed.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I read the article you linked, Het - not surprised at all - Ronny is a politician and a devoted believer in the military/industrial complex which has "run" our economy for over 100 years. The young Yemeni man who wrote the article was very powerful in his verbage - I wonder where he now resides and why he was in the USA to begin with--whether he really was a part of a terrorist "cell" or just a Yemeni citizen who wanted to try the "American way"??

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I simply ADORE "stream of consciousness" - whether it be through poetry, essays, songs, or simply observations exchanged between "complex human beings". I'm with you, Het.....all the way on this "bumpy ride" through planet earth and on to the REAL life in the heavenly realms!!

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Jeff C's avatar

I'm there with you Phil in that I don't automatically trust any narrative and try to independently evaluate the evidence. I even gave the Flat Earthers a fair shake (IMO) but found that their "proof" all had plausible explanations that could be explained by natural phenomena.

The problem with the HARP stuff is there is no evidence, there is a plausible explanation, and people making the claims end up looking like lunatics to "normal" people. These Arctic blast weather patterns do happen routinely every so often, and there's nothing unusual about this one particularly in January. The fact that it coincides with the Iowa caucus is almost certainly a coincidence. If it were happening during a July caucus that would be a different story.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I did watch hurricane Ian in real time, tic by tic on the radar and it was without a doubt manipulated. Ian performed a long series of regular course changes, first 90 degrees east and then 90 degrees back to the north, like a clock ticking time. It was as if Ian was being repeatedly "bumped". This wound up changing the projected landfall from the sparsely populated Big Bend area, to it's eventual landfall south of Tampa into a highly populated area. These course changes were completely mechanical and could only be the result of manipulation. I've seen suspicious behavior from other hurricanes, most notably the one that hit the west coast of Mexico, but Ian was dramatic.

Just like in politics, I now view everything as "guilty until proven otherwise."

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I’m this way now too. I suspect every thing. And I too saw what I believe to be a manipulation with Ian. I don’t have the proof or data… but in my gut it is strong. I wouldn’t get into an intellectual discussion over my gut feeling, but it’s ok that I just know and am satisfied. They can prove to me that they aren’t manipulating the weather and didn’t cause south Florida to be destroyed.

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Jeff C's avatar

I hear you and really respect your opinion as you've shown countless times here that your comments and thoughtful and knowledgeable.

My concern (and perhaps I've overly sensitive to this) as we look like crazy people to those who are still bought into the narrative which causes us to lose credibility. With the jab we had all sorts of hard evidence LNP's were toxic, the spike was poison, and that safety protocols were being tossed aside. In addition we had totalitarian mandates and pressure to pump this stuff in to everyone. We could point to all of this as unprecedented with credibility, and have the data to back it up.

With this HARP stuff, all we have is an extremely cold January in Iowa, which while unusual isn't exactly rare. Plus there's nothing that shows this weather pattern is in any way artificial.

It's all good though, I agree that trust has been lost and I now never accept anything at face value. I do think though that we need to have our ducks aligned before we attempt to convince others.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thanks, I'm humbled by your compliment. This forum, my immediate family and a close buddy (we have figuratively taken bullets for each other) are the only ones who get the unfiltered Phil. The rest only get a measured portion of my opinions so as not to alienate them lol.

When they started with the whole censorship and deplatforming campaign, I told my sons that this was the beginning of tyranny. All dictatorships begin with this. It is the same as the "book burning" of NAZI Germany. I mean, they deplatformed the President! Who does that? I told them a dictatorship was coming. My sons thought I was nuts. Later my youngest admitted to a friend that "Dad was right." He didn't tell me that but then sons never do admit that to your face lol.

Then when they started with the lock-downs to "flatten the curve", I immediately said this would be the biggest heist or transfer of wealth in human history. Both my sons were puzzled by my reaction. I told them this was simply a means of bankrupting the middle class and small business and transferring all their assets to the big corporations. This process is still on-going. Check out Blackrock's deal with the USG to take over all of existing FHA loans and Blackrock's vacuuming up of the single family home housing market. The end goal of the Marxists in control of the USG is the COMPLETE impoverishment of the American middle class. If Trump is not re-elected, they will finish the job.

Next came the deployment of the bio-weapon shot. My youngest son, who is a doctor of pharmacology, and I immediately called bull-shyt. My son works for a pharmacology company headquartered in Chicago. When they mandated the shot, he told them neither he nor his family would submit and dared them to fire him. Long story short, they backed down. My oldest son who is of a more liberal bent having spent too much time in NYC called me and asked if I was going to get the shot. I said "No". He asked why and I said I didn't trust them. He since changed his mind and has relocated to Chattanooga TN.

As for chemtrails and geo-engineering, at this point it is indisputable. What people fail to realize is that this is just another aspect of their efforts to poison the human race, particularly Americans and Europeans. They are poisoning our entire environment: the entire medical delivery system, our food supply and water and the very air we breathe. We are all affected. The building blocks for their nano-technology are being ingested by us with every bite we eat and each breathe we take. However, countermeasures are being discovered by people like Mihalcea and Nixon etc.

Back to geo-engineering and weather modification: It has now been demonstrated that everyone now has alarmingly high levels of aluminum in their body as a result of the chem-trail spraying. This has also caused the atypical forest fires that burn at temperatures far above normal due to the heat generated by burning aluminum that has been laid down by the chemtrails. The Paradise CA and the Lahaina fires are systematic land grabs by the elite. Using fire to burn out a population is one of the oldest techniques for stealing desirable land.

To me there is a very suspicious string of coincidences with recent hurricanes. If I remember correctly, Maria literally sat on Puerto Rico without moving as a near CAT 5 for 24 hours, grinding PR to rubble. Michael rapidly intensified to a CAT 5 literally as it crossed the beach for a direct hit on Tyndale AFB just east of where I live. The eye literally went right over the center of the base destroying everything. As a result, the USG was going to abandon the base which just happened to be extremely valuable Gulf front beach property. However, DeSantis and FL CFO Patronis intervened with President Trump to save the base and rebuild. Last Oct, contrary to all the hurricane models, Otis rapidly intensified from 70 mph (which isn't even a CAT 1) to a strong CAT 5 in 12 hours, hitting Acapulco Mexico and continued as a CAT 5 even after making landfall, which has never happened before. Like CA and Lahaina, all of these locations are prime recreational real estate.

Call it conspiracy theory if you want but in my mind there are just too many dots here that line up with the cabal's program to impoverish Americans and steal the best real estate.

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Politico Phil's avatar

PS... I should have included Ian in my list which I commented on earlier just above this.

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JSR's avatar

🙌

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JSR's avatar

Ian was definitely manipulated. Most of those people didn’t have insurance, and now no one can get it. And the Acapulco hurricane… just as crazy and manipulated for sure

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JSR's avatar

Living through two cat 5’s Maria and Irma in 2017…. I started to realize what was happening. Dorian in 2019 was the ultimate proof.. it stopped completely, then did a 90 degree turn towards the north and skimmed Florida, after taking the Bahamas and a Chinese shipping port out. Everything and everyone is suspect

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Politico Phil's avatar

Bahamas.... Another prime recreational piece of real estate the elites want to vacuum up. I don't know why I didn't think of Dorian. It literally sat over the Bahamas for *48 HOURS* - destroying everything. These hurricanes are clearly manipulated.

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Politico Phil's avatar

We need to string all these together in one post and demonstrate the atypical behavior of each.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Hurricane Matthew is a prime suspect of manipulated destruction by weather. Covid came fast on its heels and took it off the radar of extremely peculiar conditions.

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daverkb's avatar

You mean just like the John Birch Crazy Society and the NWO Commie Crap! What a swarm of ninnies they were! The only problem is that everything they said and warned about? Well here we are buckeroos!

I remember a David Irving video where he was asked if all the harassment and jail time (most at the behest and instigation of the people who cannot be criticized, it may be added), if that was all worth it. His answer was yes. And he said that in 150 years his books will still be read ... but the rest, the Puppet Press, will be forgotten.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Indeed. I remember the John Birch Society even in the 80's. Like a John the Baptist voice in the wilderness. My first born attended one of their summer camps. It was a great experience.

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daverkb's avatar

They were pretty much on the mark. Where they fell down was in the delivery mechanism. One can say that the Birchers fell down because they were directly honest. Their Serpent Persecutors danced Dances and Rings of Deception around them. The present day Birch Society people today are much more astute in how to about things.

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Jeff C's avatar

Dave - The problem with your observation is that for every crazy-sounding prophesy that came true there are at least ten (if not more) that didn't. They were total BS.

Critical thinking works both ways. Yes we don't accept the manufactured narrative at face value, but we also don't accept every lunatic-fringe explanation at face value either. We use our God-given reason to evaluate the available evidence and judge it against our life experiences.

We all make fun of the Covid maniacs for their inability to exercise critical thought and their triple-masking and hiding indoors. How is it any different when we accept looney-tunes explanations without evaluating it ourselves?

Replacing one set of extreme dogma with the polar opposite extreme dogma is not an improvement.

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daverkb's avatar

What is important is the truthfulness, the accuracy, and the validity first of presuppositions, whether stated or unstated in any give argument. After that, it's the truth and validity of what we have in our heads as a priori body of knowledge. Have the wrong body of would be knowledge, then surely its garbage in, garbage out. Reason alone is not enough. Reason has it limits. And reason without a sound body of knowledge and a heanu dose of wisdom can easily become the destroyer of the worlds.

I take your points. However, my comment was more directed towards HARP ... and not so much towards ice castles, ice walls and flashlight moons. Given the confusion, maybe I should make an application to Foggy Bottom? Where fog is more the norm.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

It’s constant near ft Myers especially Thursday, Friday Saturday.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I have heard that from others.

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Janet's avatar

Yup. Former Iowa boondock resident. 17 below in northern Illinois this morning. Yawn. That’s what heated bum seats were invented for.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Heated car seats are a gift from God!!! 😁

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CitizenA's avatar

Even better heated toilet seats. Love mine.

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Runemasque's avatar

We were at 13 below yesterday. We went swimming at the pool. We were taking about how some plug in their cars and have all kinds of amenities to make sure the car starts, but there are many without who are not intimidated by the cold and go about business.

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

In the -30’s + in Montana. -2 is balmy. No reason not to go caucus.

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devoalan's avatar

70 today. Finally. Bailed out on a gig last night because it was like 58. And a breeze.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Ah, I’m days from leaving the lovely Black Hills of SD to spend winter in FL and NC. Can’t wait! To those who think I’m a wimp … it’s the time to visit children/grandchildren and relatives. So there! LOL …

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