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Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

If we get enough of these cameras, we can be just like Great Britain. Everyone wants to be just like Great Britain. Just like everyone wants to be like Cleveland. Said no one. Ever.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yep.

If you are willing to give up freedom for security you deserve neither.

DaveL's avatar

Not only "deserve", but you absolutely won't have either one. The Leftists want to censor "incorrect" thought, the Right wants to build impenetrable walls, all for security. It seems this train of thought supersedes political ideology; it's turned into a universal mind set.

Jeff did some nice work here on researching the individual police officers taking advantage of the surveillance system. A much bigger threat is when the government decides to do so. We already had a taste of this with the government involvement in the Russia-Gate conspiracy to cancel Donald Trump. So, a people who sacrifice their freedom for security, will have neither.

Carolyn's avatar

IF the judicial system did it's job and put them in jail where they should be instead of letting them go free, all these cameras may not be needed. This is cultural decay. People don't face consequences so more people join the party. Lack of teaching at home. Progressive teaching in schools. Lack of pastors in churches addressing the real underlying problem. Lack of morals. Maybe just maybe most of this started when we the people let GOD be taken out of our country. When prayer and GOD were being deleted from schools, very few people showed up to stop it..but if it would have been football or sports in general, the majority of the community would have fighting it. So ultimately we are where we are as a country because we have not repented for not only our sins but our ancestors as well, asked forgiveness along with humbly ourselves, turned back to GOD and HIS laws for HIM to heal our lands. The internet could be used for good but as of now it is a tool of satan...that goes for most of "science". Read the Books of Enoch...this is the guy who walked with GOD for hundreds of years with GOD taking him to be with HIM. His book should be in the Bible. It was written long before Moses wrote his books. It tells what happened on earth that brought about the flood. Read them.

Maha's avatar

Your take was mine from the moment I read the article. All you mention is true, and let's dethrone these judges who throw the criminals right back on the street and return to harsh consequences for everything from violent crime to porch piracy.

Andras Boros-Kazai's avatar

Your porch piracy is my stealing.

Lerkison's avatar

It's also the state Legislatures, even those of many red states, who have substantially diminished punishment for serious offenses in the name of criminal justice reform.

AAron's avatar

Carolyn,

You wrote, [When prayer and GOD were being deleted from schools, very few people showed up to stop it..but if it would have been football or sports in general, the majority of the community would have fighting it. So ultimately we are where we are as a country because we have not repented for not only our sins but our ancestors as well, asked forgiveness along with humbly ourselves, turned back to GOD and HIS laws for HIM to heal our lands.]

Prayer was never deleted from schools. Anyone can pray anywhere at anytime for any reason.

"But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly."

2 Chronicles 7:14 wasn't written to us and wasn't written to or for Americans and is in no way about America.

You're stealing someone else's mail:

https://youtu.be/P5S7v_8vSFQ?si=qCaBHwDwuxovc7qV

S.P.H.'s avatar

Not sure of your point, Aaron, and don't get why you need to throw shade on Carolyns' comment, but I for one won't disregard the 39 Canonized books of the OT. 'All Scripture is inspired by God and is beneficial for teaching, rebuking, correcting, and training in righteousness'. Since we both are using scripture as a hammer I'll add this:' For where two or three gather in my name, there am I with them'. I typically don't invite anyone else into my closet when in sincere conversation with our God. I also prefer to 'be in prayer without ceasing' as recommended.

Now back to the surveillance state we find ourselves in...

A.'s avatar

You hit the nail on the head, Dave, I will spare you the Psychoanalytical explanations, and just say -- Spot on!

Politico Phil's avatar

Childers: "The sane solution is probably not to eliminate AI cameras altogether... But until they get the idea and install appropriate guardrails, people will keep cutting them down."

Uh huh, sure! "Guardrails for thee but none for me." Gee, that sounds familiar.

Come on, Jeff reduces the threat of a 24/7 surveillance system down to individuals in law enforcement misusing the system? We just need better guardrails???

Judging from the comments, I think most here see through this. I don't care about a few cops misusing the system to track their ex's. Seriously, that's not a threat to me. That's a local management issue.

I also think most here understand that the deep state in the US is in the process of building a total surveillance control grid and the cameras are but one aspect of this control grid. This control grid, which is well explained by people like Catherine Austin Fitts, is nearing completion with the buildout of thousands of AI data centers in the US. When this grid is snapped shut, we will have lost any chance of retaining ANY of our liberties that the writers of the Declaration of Independence talked about. THAT is the threat and there are no guardrails for the deep state.

One of my God given, unalienable rights is a reasonable expectation of autonomy and privacy. Being tracked 24/7 is not liberty and does not ALLOW for any liberty.

I'm sorry but Jeff is wrong to support the deep state. But as a trained lawyer in post-Constitutional law, his understanding is, shall we say, limited.

Besides... When have we EVER been protected by "guardrails"? I mean really.

Looking to Expand Surveillance? Is the World Just Losing Its Mind?

https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/world-news/war/looking-to-expand-surveillance-is-the-world-just-losing-its-mind/

Classic Rider's avatar

Check out Sundance and all he has to say about FISA court. The feds have been collecting data on all of us since the Patriot Act passed.

PatrioticMama's avatar

That is exactly how the Patriot Act was sold to us, and you all know how that turned out. A society without a moral compass that points "true north" (that foundation being the Judeo Christian ethic), will continue to be a lost society. Our founders knew that the type of government birthed in 1776 was only good for a religious people.

Rightly So's avatar

Yes! All so true, Patriotic Mama. That is precisely why the Marxist/Communist/Islamic terrorists work so hard to indoctrinate our children, as well the adults, with non-stop propaganda. I remember well in the seventies when the headline of the NY Times was "God Is Dead." I still resent that rag today. But at least they exposed themselves for who they are and what they represent. And surely, it's NOT Judeo Christian ethic and values. God Bless You, PM - as well as our Country!

Johnny-O's avatar

You are aware, that most of congress votes for the Patriot act, not just marxists.....

rolandttg's avatar

The name gave it away. Waving "patriotism" or "save the children " is the purview of knaves and politicians.

A.'s avatar

Absolutely. They always attach some kind of virtuous-sounding motivation or name to what they are doing, to scam anyone they manage to draw into their scheme.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

YES.YES.YES.

Its only going to get worse.

Check this out:

https://x.com/i/status/2075819181216543064

Katie Bees's avatar

So first un-vetted immoral violent criminals from other countries are allowed to flood across our borders. And then their behavior is used as justification for citizen surveillance and drones with taser capabilities.

Can't be on purpose, right? Right?

JollyLittlePerson's avatar

Exactly, Katie. That was my thought too.

Liz LaSorte's avatar

The type of government birthed in 1776 - our original constitution - the Articles of the Confederation - understood that a central government would grow corrupt bc human nature is self serving, always, as a survival instinct.

The Anti-Federalists warned us that creating a consolidated, central government would grow corrupt - how did the balance of power work out?

We should have listened to Brutus: https://substack.com/@lizlasorte/note/p-179358098?r=76q58&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action

Politico Phil's avatar

US Air Force Engineer Charged With Sawing Down Flock Surveillance Cameras Receives Thousands of Dollars from Supporters Across the Country

https://www.yahoo.com/news/us/articles/us-air-force-engineer-charged-110200536.html

George de Luna's avatar

-Benjamin Franklin.

Dr Linda's avatar

Ben Franklin made observation as well.

Mary H.'s avatar

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”

Benjamin Franklin

Chloe Zapata's avatar

However I do like that people are required to have a driver's license to legally operate a vehicle, I do like that insurance is required to renew your registration and I do appreciate that vehicles need to be registered. All these things compromise my freedom but try to ensure my safety. Every child needs a birth certificate to get a social security number. And what about social security numbers. I'm often willing to accept less freedom for expected benefit

A.'s avatar

How far would you take that before it becomes unbalanced and corrupt?

S.P.H.'s avatar

Not me Chloe, And don't make me wear a seatbelt or wear a helmet, those 'laws' don't do anything to protect others.

Key Lioness's avatar

I am changing my mind. I used to agree with your statement, but now I will support anything that frees enslaves children who are raped many times EVEEY DAY and left to die without medical care.

David Romig's avatar

None of those cameras apparently found the illegal immigrant that killed his American girlfriend in Ireland.

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Ironically one of the best news outlet for surveillance is out of the UK called ReClaim the Net. Safetyism is pitched to obtain compliance. It is just Covid policies continued. Who wants to be labeled a grandma killer? Apps that need age verification? Who wants to be labeled a pervert? Once you get the formula, you see it everywhere.

A.'s avatar
2hEdited

Yes...THAT is the tactic they use. Induce mass fear, then sell you the promise of safety in exchange for freedom. Even when there was nothing to be abnormally afraid of to begin with.

Proberta's avatar

"Ordo ab Chao"

Order from chaos.

Its their motto.

They create the chaos and then impose their order.

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Your last sentence is an excellent point. We are ginned up to fear something unlikely to happen while told to ignore what is right before our eyes.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes the pretext makes one helluva option value.

For example:

Seatbelts -> seatbelt laws -> cameras to enforce them -> location data ->behavioral scoring.

This is factual.

I just got my auto policy renewed and they defaulted the plan to "safe driver" and sent me a beacon in the mail...which I promptly threw away. Not sure what happens now....

They will never be fine. They will always end up being abused because we know that one day, a leader who fully intends to abuse them will be elected into office. That dangerous leader cannot have this technology in place when they take office. The abuse of power they will be capable of is too vast, too immense for us to take the risk!

What if The Nazis had flock cameras...finish the sentence should be a required thought exercise for every time our overlords think about stepping further onto the slippery slope.

But as Jeff mentioned it unstoppable:

https://x.com/i/status/2075283976479224288

The root of virtually every problem we have is that the average person has an attention span of 10 seconds...so they are incapable of understanding that the only law of history is the law of unintended consequences

rolandttg's avatar

We need to stop using the Nazis as a benchmark for evil. The globalists of today have and are doing far more than the Nazis ever did. or planned to do. Do your research if you doubt me.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. They killed 20 million people with rat juice in one year during the scamdemic

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

What do you mean they sent you a beacon?

Ryan Gardner's avatar

To monitor my driving behavior for a piddly discount.

Which is one thing, but to make it the default is the thin wedge

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

How does it work?

I'm asking here, they "gave" it to you to supposedly to justify giving you a better rate or was it because they thought you were a risk?

This is the first I've heard about something like this.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Justification for better rate.

Im 54 and have only had one ticket in my life...and it was a non moving violation

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

That's insane and sounds as though if it isn't illegal, it should be. It seems they are latently accusing you of covering up bad behavior which they can't prove without invading your space.

How does it work?

SHug's avatar

He is talking about telematics tracking (using an app in your car), I know you've seen Progressive ins commercials offering a "safe driver discount" - that is what that is.

Here's what I found -

Telematics is a technology that uses your smartphone (via an app) or a plug-in device to monitor your driving habits, such as hard braking, rapid acceleration, phone use, and mileage. Insurance companies use this data for usage-based programs to potentially lower your premiums.

How this data works and impacts you can be broken down as follows:

What is Tracked: Programs actively record the time of day you drive, how often you travel, speed, cornering, and distracted driving (if you interact with your phone while driving).

Pros and Cons: Safe drivers can earn up to a 10% to 40% discount, depending on the provider. However, as noted by Consumer Reports, these apps can also raise your rates if you have frequent nighttime commutes or heavy braking habits. https://www.consumerreports.org/money/car-insurance/car-insurance-telematics-pros-and-cons-a5869096072/

User Experience: users have mixed opinions; while some appreciate the score feedback, others find apps overly sensitive to normal maneuvers, like registering a light tap on the brakes in traffic as "hard braking".

Privacy: Beyond direct apps, some modern vehicles track and transmit this data via built-in connected services. You can learn more about how tracking devices process your data from this U.S. News & World Report guide. https://www.usnews.com/insurance/auto/how-do-those-car-insurance-tracking-devices-work

Of course, you don't know what use that collected data is being used for or who it is ending up with, past the company offering the discount. And more modern vehicles have bluetooth & wifi capabilties, so who knows what else they are collecting.

By the way - Those "safety services" offered on many vehicles have ever more tracking abilities. Such as On Star and others - most major automakers offer a comparable suite of connected and safety services:

On Star: Safety & Security (Automatic Crash Response, Stolen Vehicle Assistance), Connectivity (built-in 4G LTE Wi-Fi, app controls), and Navigation. Different payment tiers offer different servive levels as well.

Toyota Safety Connect: Features emergency assistance, automatic collision notification, and stolen vehicle locator.

FordPass & Lincoln Way: Provides remote start, vehicle health alerts, and complimentary roadside assistance.

Hyundai Blue Link: Includes remote climate control, geofencing for teen drivers, and SOS emergency assistance.

Mercedes-Benz me connect: Features remote locking, vehicle monitoring, and live traffic data.

I've long said, and proven in a industrial work environment, that you can get away with most anything if you tout it as, or prove it related to "SAFETY". Especially with corporation culture. Corps are hard focused on reducing insurance rates for workers comp, etc. and proving non liability ("see we gave him safety training, which he signed off on, it is not our fault he disregarded that training to get the job done [that we demanded he complete on a totally unrealistic & unsafe] timeline") for injuries which happen on the job. All those signup sheets for 'safety training' are scanned and kept in files for these reasons.

Those same ideas translate to the public, as well. Well, it is for "SAFETY". - These cameras are for the safety of little kids- you don't want little kids kidnapped off the street - or do you? See how that works? Of course you don't want little kids kidnapped; so if you object to the methods used, for say invasion of privacy, you are now branded as someone who does not care about kid's safety, or you are a disgusting, selfish person who cares more about your own privacy than keeping a kid from being kidnapped.

Beckadee's avatar

The Hyundai Blue Link- remote climate control? Are they going to keep the AC at a cool 78*? I hate gadgets plain and simple.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Hmmmmm, sorry I asked ..... hahaha

Seriously tho, if my insurer sends me a beacon I'll take a little trip in the country until I find an old vehicle with weeds growing around & thru it and I'll install the beacon on it.

S.P.H.'s avatar

This tech is built into the engine control modules in many newr vehicles. Some programs in these modules can be 'disabled' by the manufacturer, I think some cannot be. Is this also a way to circumvent warranty issues too??

S.P.H.'s avatar

Monitoring your every vehicular move is the goal, Conservative C. Eventually you will be penalized (taxed) for driving 'too much', adding to pollution etc etc. Don't forget the automatic tolling tokens in use.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Recently I rented a relatively new Penske 26' truck and I'll never rent another one. It beeps if you are off center of your lane, goes no faster than 71 mph, beeps/slows down if you are within 25 +/- feet of the vehicle in front of you. It's a total piece of junk! Never again!

It appears 15 minute cities are getting closer every day

Fiona walker's avatar

Ha, the Brits were way ahead in cutting down the cameras, and even pre-empted Jeff’s “don’t buy this or do this” advice. https://www.youtube.com/shorts/-bVn5Byx8pk

Still in progress's avatar

The blade runners are hero’s in the UK!

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Love that! When the government does not seek out consent, this type of response is justified, is it not?

Richard Whitney's avatar

Note that in Great Britain, like in the USA, when there is an actual crime committed, the cameras are malfunctioning. They have had a couple of stabbing rampages there where they just couldn't figure out whodunnit because the ubiquitous cameras failed.

We all remember Jeffrey Epstein, but do not forget that the FBI went out and collected the camera footage from 85 cameras pointed at the Pentagon, within minutes after the strike.

The only footage we were ever shown was a blurry 3 second video which showed nothing, but the talking heads all nodded wisely and assured us that we were seeing a plane coming in at ground level and hitting the Pentagon.

And apparently they did the same thing at the JFK assassination. Zapruder was not the only one with a movie camera there, but the FBI confiscated everyone else's.

Mrs. RW

Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

The real question is, were they actually "malfunctioning," or is that just something to say when you don't want an answer or the answer is inconvenient?

Richard Whitney's avatar

Either way, it shows that the "They're for your protection" line is not true.

Mrs. RW

Margot Wooster's avatar

Excellent point, Mrs RW!

Proberta's avatar

And they ignore the witnesses!

ln the three years following the murders of JFK, Lee Harvey Oswald and Jack Ruby, seventeen of the 22 witnesses interviewed by the Dallas Police and the FBl died: six by gunfire, three in motor accidents, two by suicide, one from a cut throat, one from a karate chop to the neck, three from heart attacks, and two from 'natural causes'."

Why were 17 innocent, good Americans who thought they were doing their duty by testifying, murdered?

Just because they were saying that the shots came from the Grassy Knoll and the limo slowed to almost a complete stop???

Johnny-O's avatar

Thank you for the 911 context

A.'s avatar
3hEdited

Even 25 years ago, who could have foreseen how quickly Great Britain would tumble into no-man's land? Well, maybe Mark Steyn and Theodore Dalrymple and myself.

Even though -- oddly enough -- Globalist Central for about 2000 years since the fall of Rome has been located in the City of London. This has not stopped them from destroying the native British culture, however.

rolandttg's avatar

As I posted, I did. It started with cordless phones not having the same privacy rights as hardwired phones. And here we are.

A.'s avatar

I believe you, Roland.

I do think, though, that the latest big push on social destruction began in the post-war years, ramping-up by the 1960s when all of those Baby Boom tots were starting to come of age. THAT was when high Marxism/high-leftwing-rot began coming into fullswing.

Not that I think far-rightwing attitudes are the way to go. Because I don't. All you need to do is to read a few days of the religious Fundamentalist posts on this Substack to see that the far-right can be just as bad in other ways.

The centre of the psychological spectrum, or homeostasis, is where you want to aim

Not That “Karen”'s avatar

Just curious, do you have a doorbell camera?

If not then this comment doesn’t apply to you but it does apply to anyone here who is complaining about the very thing they are doing. Because let’s be real: surveillance is surveillance. No, a doorbell camera can't issue traffic tickets or wield government power. But every single time the lens logs a neighbor walking their dog, a delivery driver, or a passing car on a public street without their consent, you are still actively “invading their privacy.” You can't genuinely advocate for public anonymity while maintaining a digital log of everyone else's movements on your block. And while that doorbell camera itself records just a small slice, when combined with hundreds of other neighborhood cameras….If we are going to fight against mass surveillance, we have to look at the lenses we’ve put up on our own front doors first.

nancy's avatar

We have no doorbell cameras, but my neighbor is aware when we get a delivery. So much for privacy. Scary times, I keep seeing the book 1984 coming more to life every day.

Mary H.'s avatar

“They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety”.

Benjamin Franklin

J Boss's avatar

So, local enforcement and consequences are good. But when EVER has that much data been fire walled from Feds? When ever has the data captured and searchable EVER remained limited to exactly the original intention when the system was installed?

If you limit the data to license plates only, and you force data entry validation against actual cases, I'm with you. But the cameras are tracking phone signals, BT transmissions, car BT transmissions, bumper stickers, on and on. And it will only grow.

NONE of that data has anything to do with law enforcement. But it has EVERYTHING to do with control.

CK's avatar

True. Also, best user name ever.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Said the WEF/Transnational gangsters....

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes.

Dont you love how nobody voted for or even asked cities/towns about Flock cameras. They just started popping up everywhere.

Who approved them, and how did they do it without public approval?

Why is that....hmmm....

THIS is why you know they will be abused. Its just matter of degree.

So obvious.

rolandttg's avatar

Jeff showed us how even the reddest Florida local governments spent every last dime of the ever more obscene increases in property tax. If we have not learned by now that Reagan was dead right when he said the 10 most terrifying words in the English language are "we are here from the government and want to help you", then you are part of the problem.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

AMEN. Miss The Gipper

Dena's avatar

Some officers in Houston are already threatening people for “hate speech”. Basically for saying something someone else disagrees with. Kind of like Great Britain.

John Wygertz's avatar

"Trust us, we're keeping you safe", is wearing kind of thin.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

This is the issue: CONSENT!! If they haven't sought our consent first by presenting the case and then seeking petition signers and then by conducting an election (if they get the requisite number of petition signers), then they DONT GET TO INTRUDE on OUR LIVES in this most INTRUSIVE manner or otherwise. THIS IS OUR COUNTRY, NOT THE GOVERNMENT's and they NEED TO ASK US FOR CONSENT. NO CONSENT - NO CAMERAS.

Let me also add some personal reality to all of Childers stories of cop misuse of the system. When I filed an election lawsuit against the county, the very next day, I received a visit from two Deputy Sheriffs at my front door - full battle gear, very menacing looking. When I sought FOIA on the visit, I was given a bullshit story about them searching for a lost teenager, yet, when I asked my neighbors if the cops had visited them too, not a single one told me they too were visited. Now, give them flock cams and the ability to know where I am at any given moment while out driving. Does anyone think they will not use it?

Asa Plinch's avatar

I'm with you, Dan. Problem is . . . most people will consent (to "feel" safe). [See: Covid jabs]

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

If most people consent and they followed the correct laws in gaining their consent, then that is how the system is supposed to work. I can live with that.

However, if we find that the system is being misused in ways that violate our constitutional rights, then we also have the same process to remove the cameras except in this case, it is called a referendum. We can get them removed but people need to coalesce and help fight and fund the removal.

Gail W's avatar

I think we'll never know for sure as I do NOT believe any 'stats' from C-19 but I wonder exactly what percentage DID take the shots?

rolandttg's avatar

We saw in the plandemic what the governments of the world will do given unlimited powers. The crowning glory to me was cops boating out to arrest a surfer. As far as what percentage did take the shots, sadly, I think the estimate in the US of ~70 % is probably accurate, given my own experience. So many people I thought did not take the shot I later learned did.

Richard Whitney's avatar

My friend I hadn't seen in 35 years called me out of the blue in 2021.

We chatted for a while and then she asked me if I took the shots.

I said "No", and she said "I didn't think you would''.

Wow, that blew my mind. How did she know?

I guess I've been contrary my whole life.

Mrs. RW

Gail W's avatar

That's interesting. I'm pretty sure most of the people did not get any shots!

nancy's avatar

It my experience it was about 50/50, with less compliance from rural people.

Melissa S's avatar

Years ago, way before AI and these cameras, we had moved into a new neighborhood. We went outside one morning and saw that our car parked on the street in front of our house had been bashed in. There were tire marks coming from the drive way of the house across the street, paint the color of the car in the driveway, and a dented area missing some paint. We called the police and they told us to come file a report. But a motorcycle cop showed up shortly afterwards. Saw the damage and incriminating evidence and left. Another cop showed up and took the full report. As it turned out, the first cop actually owned the house across the street, was separated from his wife, and had moved out but was going through a reconciliation. Or so he thought. The wife had a boyfriend she was still seeing. Apparently the boyfriend had backed out and committed the hit & run. My point is this: When we made the call, that address was flagged and the police officer was told immediately. And in this case, I'm glad he was. We didn't have to go to the station and file a report (which at the bottom of the form states that that is all the police will do. Deal with your insurance company.) We got our car fixed without having to have our insurance pay for it and then raised because we made a claim. I don't know what happened afterwards except that the house was sold. I assume the couple divorced. The cop had rightly turned the case over to another officer. But if the cop was abusive in any way, he already had inside information not available to the rest of us. If he had had cameras he could have accessed and was not an officer with integrity, who knows what could happen? And that is the question we must always asked regarding the trust of our public servants. Just as we can't trust the $cience, we can't trust all law enforcement, doctors, and certainly not politicians.

MaryAnn's avatar

Speaking of trusting politicians: an IL state rep and her husband (convicted felon who ‘paid his debt to society’ is the County Clerk responsible for elections) and daughter are now under federal indictment (the parents) for ‘siphoning’ money from grant programs the rep was responsible for bestowing. She requested gift$ from the entity receiving the grants. The daughter is charged with fraud in gaining illegal unemployment benefits when she was, in fact, employed. The daughter was charged before her parents… makes one wonder if she gave up the golden geese? Guess the party affiliation. Has the rep been tossed from the House? Hahaha! It is IL, after all. Innocent until proven guilty.

rolandttg's avatar

Best advise I can give anyone is "trust no one but yourself". if you do trust someone, as Teddy said, "verify"

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Easy solution before it becomes The Final Solution:

Just inform the tweaker community that every flock camera contains gold, silver, and copper.

Sometimes you have to ally with strange bed fellows

SHug's avatar

LMAO!!!!!! That is actually brilliant Ryan!

JBell's avatar

It's like the FISA court....... they can spy on us with judicial permission, which is granted 99.99% of the time!

NormaJeanne's avatar

The government and officials abuse during Covid and the 2020 election/J6 debacles showed us what’s in store for We the People if we don’t curtail this soon. IMO every American citizen should possess a legal, Supreme Court ruled upon "copyright" ownership of every personal datapoint in their life, including voice, facial/body recognition, DNA, retinal patterns, etc. Misuse would enable the victims to immediately sue violators for an exorbitant amount of money with possible criminal penalties. Absolute transparency needs to be enabled for anyone to be able to search to see if their data has been accessed, with each citizen receiving a yearly Data Access Report. This would also include the ability of homeowners to be able to access drone data to see who and why their property was subjected to surveillance.

In the meantime, I’m using this: https://photoblocker.com/product-category/photoblocker-spray/

rolandttg's avatar

Thanks. I just bought some

Gail W's avatar

I wonder if this A) Actually works and B) if there is a way for the police to test to see if this has been applied? If there is they will ticket you for it.

CStone's avatar

How is this used?

S.P.H.'s avatar

Probably best when sprayed directly on the lens of the camera 🤷🏻‍♂️

NormaJeanne's avatar

You spray it on your license plate making it reflective to the infrared sensor used to detect your plates rendering the image unreadable. Does not affect the ability to see your plate under normal conditions.

Gail W's avatar

WOW!! Can I ask what county you're in?? Or at least red or blue??

Gail W's avatar

I think "we're keeping you safe" passed 'wearing thin' about six years ago!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

"Why are we marching naked to a trench full of dead people? "

- useful idiots

curious_scientist's avatar

The limited Constitutional powers allowed to the government are not built upon the foundation of "Trust Us".

Juju's avatar
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Jeff says, “And we must prosecute every single official who misuses these systems.” Yeah please, but …. I’d go a step further and say we wouldn’t need to use surveillance systems like this at all, ever, if we simply enforced the laws on the books and applied appropriate punishments when someone is found guilty. Instead, almost every crook these days is let off with or without bail, and like Judge Dugan’s recent punishment when it’s time for penalties they get off with a 5k slap on the wrist, or Tim Walz pardoning a child rapist, with a tear in his eye. When crime isn’t penalized justly, crime increases exponentially and THEN they can say that the only way to crack down on the out of control culture is to take away our privacy rights. Almost like it was planned.

The cameras are wrong. Period. Deterrence is the answer, and deterrence happens when punishments make it way too big of a risk to break the law. Worked for centuries before.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Juju, that is an EXCELLENT point. I think Jeff is right, though. The genie is not gonna get back in the bottle. I personally think all this is leading to the final antichrist. May not be for a long time yet, but leading in that direction for sure.

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

The technology is one thing… the human element is another.

We are only human and flawed in some way…it’s inevitable.

Neil Kellen's avatar

"Trust us, we're keeping us safe" is much more accurate.

J Boss's avatar

So, local enforcement and consequences are good. But when EVER has that much data been fire walled from Feds? When ever has the data captured and searchable EVER remained limited to exactly the original intention when the system was installed?

If you limit the data to license plates only, and you force data entry validation against actual cases, I'm with you. But the cameras are tracking phone signals, BT transmissions, car BT transmissions, bumper stickers, on and on. And it will only grow.

NONE of that data has anything to do with law enforcement. But it has EVERYTHING to do with control.

Deo Gratias's avatar

During the plandemic we did not comply with the “suggestion” that we stay holed up at home. We were in the middle of building a house an hour away and construction didn’t halt and we had to supervise. That meant traveling back and forth several times a week. At the time there was no way for authorities to know whether we were complying. Now there is. Next time, the lockdowns will be exactly that. That’s what we have to fight against.

Linda's avatar

That is an excellent point! We saw how the power to control people’s lives came into play then. This would give so much more power to control. Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I am a believer who believes that one day, as the Bible tells us there will be “the man of lawlessness” - aka the antichrist. And this technology will fit right into his hands and plans. Terrifying is not too strong a word for that.

Susan Daniels's avatar

The pandemic did not affect my life. I went shopping without wearing a stupid mask. No one said a word to me. I also did not get any of those dangerous shots that will be killing people far into the future.

Tio Nico's avatar

I ran pretty much the same path. Except that I had to trick a matronly gatekeeper at some store I went into, having her divulge the "secret code" that guarantees a pass... "I have a disability". The law also prohibits anyone asking me to divulge my "disability". Mine? I cannot tolerate kabuki theatre with respect to my health. and/or liberty and/or peace. Increases my heart rate and bood pressure.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Hobby Lobby had a sign up saying that no one with a disability had to wear a mask, and that employees would not question anyone about their disability.

Mrs. RW

Susan Daniels's avatar

Interesting. Good for them.

Susan Daniels's avatar

Love it. Mine would be I am a grudge-carrying Irishwoman.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I bought a Lone Ranger mask, so I was complying as I got strange looks.

rolandttg's avatar

The one time in Costco I wore a mask it was the Anonymous mask they stole from "V for Vendetta"

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Susan, its important you call it what it was, it was a pLandemic, a crime against humanity, conducted to control the world and send millions of people to their unnatural deaths.

Susan Daniels's avatar

It absolutely was a crime against humanity and it will harm people in a variety of ways from now on. Not everyone in Congress, though, because they did not have to take the shot.

SHug's avatar

Many of them also fell to the fear mongering and took the shot anyway - and, many of them are now having "unexplained or mysterious" illnesses, just as the general public. Liike Tutle McConnell who started freezing up mid speech. (clot building strokes?).

Susan Daniels's avatar

I read that Congress was excluded from taking the shot. Don’t know if it was true or not. I suspect any politician we saw getting one, like Biden, was actually getting saline solution.

rolandttg's avatar

Only thing I Ever call it, unless I am feeling mean, and then I come right out with scamdemic.

Susan Daniels's avatar

That is what it was. The witch who is running as the Democratic candidate for governor of Ohio was the one who shut down our schools for two years. Amy Acton is a nasty piece of work.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

It's crazy that Biden mandated those shots because POTUS Trump and Operation Warp Speed bequeathed him a vaccine that was self-disseminating to the entire herd through shedding.

Steve Stevens's avatar

This time around POTUS is bequeathing the AI infrastructure buildout. It’ll be all set up and ready to go for the next guy.

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

Praise the Lord! Thank you POTUS Trump!

Mrs. M.'s avatar

How wonderful for you!😏My daughter’s job was considered “non-essential” so no money for her! Thank the Good Lord we were able to help her until that bit of craziness passed. ✊🏼🇺🇸

Susan Daniels's avatar

I didn’t have a job loss facing me, which made it very hard for many. I am self-employed and work from home, although there was not much work coming in.

Years from now, people will look back on the pandemic and be astonished at how we let the government betray us.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

We hope people will look back and be astonished.

Tio Nico's avatar

and wander along cluelessly as they willingy waddle right into the next tricks "they" have up their sleeves The "immigration" issue, sound money, surveilance, "climate change", elections/voting,

PamelaZelie's avatar

That may have worked in some Red areas, but certainly not NC. I was often accosted by “karens.”

DS's avatar
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I lived in Oregon at that time and was kicked out of a Whole Foods for not wearing a mask and out of a Kohl's store for not wearing the mask up over my nose. Also got harassed numerous times flying and having the stewardesses constantly telling people to pull it up over your nose. The funniest experience was dining out. You had to wear your mask at all times at a restaurant except when you sit down.

SHug's avatar

Well, you know those so dangerous virus particles would never attack while you are sitting, eating or drinking. My eyes rolled so hard at that stupidity they almost got stuck!

AwakeNotWoke's avatar

That's an ever present danger, pretty much any time, anywhere.

Susan Daniels's avatar

Everyone needs to understand the concept of “situational awareness.”

Susan Daniels's avatar

That is unfortunate and unfair. No one should be accosted by anyone, ever.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Hah! Try wokeville, ie Santa Fe! Shunned, physically attacked, socially excluded. Love the place but can't live there!

Gail W's avatar

Ha. Good for you!! You must not have been living in a blue jurisdiction during C-19. We were and if you wanted to shop (in person) you had to wear a mask. 😡

Susan Daniels's avatar

I refuse to consider myself old, and I just say that I have lived a long time. People tend not to mess with people who have lived a long time. ;-)

rolandttg's avatar

Frankly , I wish more did. I am prepared to defend any position on any subject , no notes. Sadly, they leave me alone.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

One (especially women) become invisible at a certain age. Personally, I find it liberating. Watching is just fascinating. In limited doses, of course. And with a quiet place to escape the madness.

Gail W's avatar

AH, brava! I like that spin on it.

Tio Nico's avatar

that "man o awlessness" already came and went. His name is Titus, son o Vespasian, both were roman generals sent to deal with the rowdy jews. They went into the temple, on a known and recorded date, desecrated it by sacriphicing a pig in the Holy Place, just as Jesus predicted. They returned some time later and utterly destroyed that temple, again, as Jesus predicted. This is recorded in both Jewish and roman records, considered valid and accurate. I don't have those dates commited to memory but coud locate them.

As to "The Antichrist". you need to reread John's words concerning "antichrist". John is not suggesting some monster who will escape out o the shed in the side yard and come and do nasty things at some point in time. No, he is simply providing the Church with a simple and reliable means to discern whether any given person is "one o us" or not. Does that individual hold to the truth that Jesus Christ has come in the phlesh, or not? That test still works today. And always will.

CStone's avatar

There have been many ‘antichrists’, as the spirit of antichrist has existed from the beginning. So, yeah maybe he was one of many with the spirit of antichrist.

Tio Nico's avatar

I am gad that "some guy" on a bicyce" is pretty hard to track and/or ID

This can be enhanced when that "some guy" owns several bikes, an assortment o jerseys, and some helmets.

Soon enough the paranoid dweebs will be demanding some means o identiphication be visible at all times.

Orwell was too correct.........

A Guy from South Florida's avatar

Flock will make sure you comply with your two week lockdown

SB's avatar
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Indeed. Poorly paid employees at an establishment won’t need to scream at you to wear a mask. They can just submit camera footage and a government bill will arrive at your home a week later. Or thinking ahead, they can lock your car so you can’t drive anywhere, etc

Anyone remember 15 minute cities? One step closer…

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Better is the little of the righteous

Than the abundance of many wicked.

For the arms of the wicked will be broken,

But the LORD sustains the righteous.

The LORD knows the days of the blameless,

And their inheritance will be forever.

They will not be ashamed in the time of evil,

And in the days of famine they will have abundance.

— Psalm 37:16-19 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

HalleluYah! For Yahweh is good:

Sing praises to his name; for it is pleasant.

Your name, O Yahweh, endures forever;

Your memorial name, O Yahweh, throughout all generations.

Psalm 135: 3, 13

Lori's avatar
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The days of the blameless? But not one of us is blameless. Not ever, past or present. Heavy sigh. Some of the verses in the Bible are confounding to me.

And Jeff even had this in his stack today, "There are none without sin; no, not one. Rom. 3:10-12; Psa. 14, 53; Ecc. 7:20."

JoJo's avatar

I think the blameless are those in Christ. No?

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Yes, in Christ we are blameless. According to the lexicon:

sound, wholesome, unimpaired, innocent, having integrity;

what is complete or entirely in accord with truth and fact

Lori's avatar

This was written in Psalms, the OT and Jesus was not on the scene for years yet.

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Jesus appears many times in the Old Testament.. It is called a Christophany.

Lori's avatar

He is prophesied about in the OT. He did not appear in person to humans. As far as the examples below, it is God the Father or Angels like Michael. Jews were not aware of a Holy Trinity so they only saw God as one entity, Yahweh.

The Commander of the Lord's Army (Joshua 5:13-15): Before the siege of Jericho, Joshua encountered a man with a drawn sword. When Joshua asked whose side He was on, the man identified Himself as the commander of the army of the LORD and instructed Joshua to remove his sandals because the ground was holy—a command mirroring God’s encounter with Moses.The Fourth Figure in the Fire (Daniel 3:24-25): After Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego were thrown into a blazing furnace, King Nebuchadnezzar looked in and saw four men walking unharmed. He described the fourth man's appearance as "like a son of the gods" (or "the Son of God"), widely interpreted as a pre-incarnate appearance of Jesus coming to deliver His people.The Visitor to Abraham (Genesis 18:1-2, 13-22): The LORD appeared to Abraham near the oaks of Mamre as three men. Abraham addressed one of them as "the LORD" (Yahweh) and engaged in conversation with Him regarding the impending judgment of Sodom and Gomorrah.The Man Who Wrestled Jacob (Genesis 32:24-30): Before reuniting with his brother Esau, Jacob wrestled a "man" until daybreak. When the man blessed Jacob, Jacob realized he had physically wrestled with God and survived, famously calling the place Peniel ("face of God").

Lori's avatar

Quote is from the OT, not the NT.

Tom's avatar

"Some of the verses in the Bible are confounding to me."

Me too! These verses, I let rattle around in my head until I'm given the answer.

It has been my experience that the answer glorifies Jesus Christ. (See the replies to your comment from JoJo and Janice.)

Lori's avatar

Jesus was hundreds of years away from Psalms and this was written for Old Testament audience.

SHug's avatar

Lori, His presence is found through prophetic descriptions of a coming Messiah, symbolic foreshadowing, and physical appearances prior to his earthly life. These are usually called Christophanies—manifestations of the pre-incarnate Son of God. Some of those would be - Isaiah 7:14, Isaiah 53, Psalm 22, and ALL through the book of Daniel, who was given many prophcies. He may be refered to as Annointed One, Messiah, Son of Man - those are all our Jesus. <3

Lori's avatar

The Jews refer to Yahweh and did not see Jesus in the flesh in the OT. Angels were appearing to people in the OT. Foreshadowing yes, in person no. And what good did it do anyway? Jews despise Jesus today (unless you are a Jew for Jesus) and what they say about Him is beyond disgusting. They had all the proof, foreshadowing and still they rejected and reject Him to this day.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Jesus has always been.

He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities⁠—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

— Colossians 1:15-17 NAS95

Evans W's avatar
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They are installing them all over Winston-Salem/Forsyth County North Carolina. This came before the city Council and County commissioners very quietly with little to no public notice before being passed by both.

But it’s so much worse than what is being reported. Flock explicitly markets connections between police agencies and private entities (businesses, HOAs, schools). Private camera data can feed directly into the shared platform for ‘faster response and investigations.’

Flock has also partnered with Amazon’s Ring, allowing Ring camera owners to share footage with law enforcement via Flock’s platforms (e.g., through community requests or Neighbors feed). This data becomes available in Flock’s RTCC where its totally controlled by Flock forever.

Nothing like violating your fourth amendment rights at scale folks……move along now.

https://x.com/evans_wroten/status/2075905884882915404?s=46

Matt L.'s avatar
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Evans, check out this website.

Launch the Map

Then hit the Timeline

It’s shows install of Flock camera across lower 48, over time. Big ol’ spike in 2025!

Also, hit the ‘Network’ button and you can zoom in on each Flock network across USA and all the other Flock networks who they share data with. It’s a crazy spaghetti chart.

https://deflock.org/

Evans W's avatar

Yep. It’s a great resource!

James Goodrich's avatar

A Reminder To Myself

Doing what is right is every persons choice daily.

There have been times when I’ve looked to hire people to work with me. Like all companies I try to get good people that would represent my company in the best positive light. A person that’s trustworthy, friendly and kind. Someone that looks like they take care of themselves, seems more likely to care for my business. Someone who could be an example to others.

Wouldn’t it make sense, if it’s important how an employee represents my company it’s more important how I present myself, especially in my life. You never really know who’s watching you. People watch how we live. Our kids, our co workers, even people at the store where we shop. Our actions, how we treat people, helping others, even our body language should make people feel comfortable. If we are kind, good to people, take time for people, that’s a message we are sending out.

We are called to be the light of the world. We should always pay attention to that. Our life in a way is a ministry. Every day when we interact with others we are sending a message. Some people we see are the only interaction they may have all day, we should always want to leave a positive impression of ourselves.

When somebody does something nice for us, don’t just look down and mumble ok thanks. Slow down, show them that you care, look them in the eye with a smile on your face, in a pleasant tone, say thank you I really appreciate that. We can’t get so busy, so preoccupied, that we don’t take time for people. God brings all types of people across our path. We never know if they need something positive added into their life. They may be going through all kinds of difficulty that we know nothing about, yet one kind word, one heartfelt thank you, one look of care and concern can help them through their day. It’s the little things we do.

People don’t see God, they see us. We are vessels and should try to give out some good to somebody, give out hope give out encouragement. We may have difficulties in our own life and one of the best things we can do is take our mind off ourselves. The best thing we can do is go out and be a blessing to someone else. If you will make someone else’s day you are sure to see it come back to you. If we go out each day being a good example you’ll not only make a positive impact in other people’s lives, God will use that to impact our own life, He will cause you to climb higher. Take time out of your busy life to help someone whenever you can.

Happy Saturday!

J.Goodrich

Lori's avatar
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I see God James. Every Single Day. He is everywhere and all things. Nature, Sunshine, Wind, Flowers, Grass, Oceans. In fact, I cannot not see Him wherever I go and that is beautiful to me! And when we help others, they see God working in and through us.

Roger Beal's avatar

By your fruits shall ye be known.

Jane Tracy's avatar

A great reminder James! Have a wonderful weekend!!!

Susan Clack's avatar

That was wonderful, James. Gonna share that to my FB page! 😇🙌🏼🙏🏼🙌🏼😇

DS's avatar

Thank you, James, for those words! Very encouraging!

Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Beautiful! Thanks James!

CL Shoemake's avatar

I LOVE this, James!!! And you are spot on entirely! Bless you for the reminder. Technology has caused a great deal of isolation in many cases. So true that a kindness, whether spoken or demonstrated, can make such a difference. 🙏🥰

Patrick J Griffin's avatar

A Flock of baboons is called a Congress…which is actually the place these cameras should be on our members of Congress 24/7/365…

Lori's avatar

LOVE LOVE LOVE this idea.

Rick1911's avatar

Hi Jeff. Thanks for the link to the DeFlock website. I live in a small city of 9,000 and was surprised to find that we have 12 Flock cameras in our area. Looking at map of the surrounding area, it shows that they are turning up in quite a few small cities and towns. Disturbing.

Dr. Tom Servo's avatar

Money makers. And don't let the fact that the camera company gets a cut of the fine make you worry about false positives. That would NEVER happen.

Carlos's avatar

CUT THEM DOWN. Damage and destroy them. Better to apologize - or force authorities to challenge you in court. No government - local, state, or federal - and no individual business - can violate constitutional rights - unless we LET them.

George de Luna's avatar

It’s been happening at scale already. No fly lists? Gun permits? Please….

Jamison's avatar

I live in a small city (population 2,069) just south of Louisville. We have flock cameras.

Susan Daniels's avatar

We only have one.

DS's avatar

The Flock cameras started showing up in our city of Maricopa, AZ a couple of months ago. Small city of 80K near Phoenix. No public approval to my knowledge.

Mayor's avatar

In our area, the cameras are strategically placed to capture all vehicular traffic entering and exiting the county. I was told the local sheriff’s department contracted with Flock to install the cameras and they did not seek approval from county commissioners. Does anyone know if NC requires a sheriff dept to obtain approval from commissioners?

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I think it’s somewhat interesting how much current technology is ushering in the ability for Revelation to happen. If you’ve read about the tribulation period, you know the Antichrist has the ability to monitor everyone for compliance with his directives.

I never really understood how people without the mark could be prohibited from buying and selling until CBDC and the implanted chips were introduced.

How could he monitor millions of people? AI and flock cameras make it possible.

Is the False Prophet not even a person? Is it AI?

It’s an interesting time to be alive. Changing ages.

Curtis's avatar

I remember a Bible study many years ago in which the pastor said that there were some curious translation issues regarding the Antichrist as a person. He suggested that the gender, among other things, was rather ambiguous.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

His name is Bill Gates.

Curtis's avatar

The list of potential Antichrists is extensive, and has thus far been wrong. 😉

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Great questions, Queen

My experience is that Revelation describes both the inner and outer world.

Tony_K's avatar

We had a case here in NE Florida where a flock camera helped prove someone's wrongful arrest and ultimately, their innocence for a hit and run vehicular homicide.

Unfortunately, the problems still seem to far outweigh the benefits.

IR's avatar

Yep. This is always an issue, what can help to solve the problem in one instance and be incredibly useful can also be used for the wrong reasons in the wrong hands. We have to decide if the tradeoff is really worth it but we are not even being asked.

DaveL's avatar

Right, Thomas Sowell's wonderful observation.

Penny North's avatar

Just like guns.

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I wonder if the same evidence would have come to light with good, competent police work.

A question that I suspect is looming on the horizon, with so many cameras do we need as many police officers?

Gail W's avatar

Where are you, if I may ask, in NE FL? We're in the panhandle currently but desperately want to move to Atlantic beach!

WRT the cameras doing anything good, one could always install a dash cam in their own car, of their own choice and that would have likely exonerated the wrongly accused in this case too.

D Thompson's avatar

Absolute power corrupts absolutely.

Mark1's avatar
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The very idea that strapping on a gun and badge, and taking an oath, somehow makes that human a better person is laughable. I’ve been on a long holiday weekend with a bunch of cops from one of the named cities. What a bunch of children. And I’m talking about the supervisors.

Sassy Smith's avatar

Low IQ bunch for sure. Thankful they are there when we need them, but certain toys need to be kept out of their childish reach.

IR's avatar

100%. The intention behind it can be good in the beginning but there will always be someone down the road who will abuse the power and boy, did we learn from history!

Sandra Strohschein's avatar

The problem is that we live post covid where we have seen, under the cover of “emergency” all of our rights upended. From unlawful arrests to mask nazis harassing and bullying. Walk the wrong way in a grocery store aisle? Bam. Flock fine. As well AI generated images can “create” any scenario “necessary” to try and convict. In an Orwellian world where good people are an endangered species I see zero benefit.

rolandttg's avatar

Think it was Beria who told Stalin "show me the man and I'll show you the crime"

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

I would add that the benefits are CURRENTLY real.

The 'rub' is that technology ALWAYS creates effects antithetical to the problems it's invented to fix.

I'll be watching

MaryAnn's avatar

Sandra: 100%. During covid, we were ‘policed’ by our fellow citizens, into compliance and that was before cameras were everywhere. I can only imagine the fresh hell these cameras will bring when the next control device is deployed on the masses.

Don Lueders's avatar

It is not the cameras that pose the threat to our privacy. Federal, state, and local governments will always have cameras - as well as microphones, GPS trackers, and many other devices potentially used to control us. As Orwell tried to explain in '1984', what matters is what the Control Class does with the information (i.e., records) these devices collect. This explains why the Obama administration dismantled the Federal records management program during the first few months of his first term.

Lori's avatar

The Control Class controls period. We can expect nothing else. And the cameras are the problem just as the govts. They are the tools used to spy on us.

David Taylor's avatar

You can have more laws, more restrictions, more monitoring and control in the name

of crime prevention but people will always find ways to commit crimes including some of the very people who are supposed to be in charge of such technology and charged with its use for the good of society. Go to the root cause of why there is so much crime and general dissatisfaction in the country and only then will you truly make changes for the better.

George de Luna's avatar

The reason is the erosion of morality. It’s been happening for at least 50 years.

David Taylor's avatar

I totally agree. And the solution is so simple that nobody would believe it. All laws could be scrapped and replaced by one law - Natural Law. Basically we are all free individuals and have the innate right to do whatever we please as long as we cause no harm to others. It really is that simple. Mistakes will still be made and accidents will happen and there will be people who simply refuse to obey such a law but if the majority of people at least tried to abide by such a law, the world would become a far better place.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Natural Law cannot be activated and benefitted from when for members of society who depend day to day, minute by minute on technology, experts, and institutions. These influences constantly press down on Conscience.

David Taylor's avatar

You can start by activating it in your life and simply being more mindful in your everyday interactions. You can then try to introduce the principle to friends and family. The world cannot be changed overnight but your life and those close to you can make their worlds better. The key is recognising and understanding the principle of Natural Law in the first place and having the intention to cause no harm.

Penny North's avatar

The criminals are not afraid to get caught. Start there.

Susan Seas's avatar

Not unlike visiting a shopping website, that you Do Not have a log in for, and then receive an email saying “hey we see you were checking this out, here are some things you might be interested in.” AND I DO use a “non-tracking” browser.

Surveillance State Indeed 🥴

Diane Nohr's avatar

Obviously you are not following the BIG case in America, though you as an attorney I’m curious your take. With these cameras literally everywhere, why no clear pics or videos in that case? So coincidental how valuable videos and pics not available because system failed, or battery ran out, at just “right” moment??

JudyC's avatar

100%, and AI cameras make it easy to edit any video. We’ve seen it over and over. Missing footage, fuzzy/blurry film. We’ve all seen AI generated videos using public figures that are almost impossible to tell are fake. As others have stated here, if something “good” can be hacked, misused and manipulated, it will be.

A.'s avatar

Sometimes I play games games with AI, to see how much it takes for that little nothing to crack. When they give me WOKE BS as a reply, I challenge it. Several times. Eventually AI either stops responding, or shuffles off with its tail between its legs.

And the frequent AI lies! AI is lazy, so it spits out the first answer that sounds acceptable. Even if it is wrong.

Lori's avatar

If you are talking about Charlie's murder, I suspect the CIA and Mossad wanted it that way.

Johnny-O's avatar

Precisely. Grainy video and "verified" text messages from an Israeli company is slam dunk evidence according to many.

https://donaldjeffries.substack.com/p/tyler-robinson-just-another-patsy

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Yes ... and I've been wondering for quite some time about what happens when ALL video, all email, all evidence becomes completely suspect

JudyC's avatar

Well, at this point, I’m skeptical about most everything! Sad way to have to live, but my skepticism is what kept me from not buying into the Covid scam and lead me down many rabbit holes. I’m a proud conspiracy theorist, and we all know what’s happened to the theories!

Conservative Contrarian's avatar

And yet there are cameras that can, so they claim, take clear photos of a license plate from low Earth orbit.