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Lisa's avatar
Jun 4Edited

I hear of UTI's, going rapidly to sepsis. Is this usual? Asking to any medical people reading? I know of 3 who were not diagnosed initially with UTI, but quickly went downhill and died. It seems that UTI would be more easily recognized?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

A UTI always had the possibility of turning into sepsis if it was not treated promptly.

However, the time frame from a UTI turning into sepsis has seemed to accelerate if the person took the covid DeathVax.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes! He has had UTIs prior to vax and never had an issue. He went in to the doc one day…the very next day was in ER….a couple days later on life support. Two months on life support. Gone. No. This wasn’t normal in any sense of the word.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Lots of sepsis cases being reported after contracting relatively minor illnesses.

All seemed to have taken the covid DeathVax.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I’ve been seeing this a lot too especially in children. I used to only see rapid onset sepsis when people were on immunosuppressant drugs.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I have heard of 2 people who recovered from sepsis recently.

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Robin Greer's avatar

That’s crazy. Sepsis seems way to common these days.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Thanks for the update.

Is there more awareness concerning sepsis when patients come in?

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Robin Greer's avatar

Not that I’m aware of

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Oh geez...

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

and... if you have a history of UTI, then you usually know what your early symptoms are and get to immediately. You aren't waiting until you need the ER. So that is unusual that he not catch it before progression

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RunningLogic's avatar

It also seems like it tended to happen more in the elderly before.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

In the elderly UTIs are often misdiagnosed. I was talking to a woman whose mom was in a nursing home and became confused, disoriented, and combative.

It turned out she had an UTI and was not developing dementia.

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Fred's avatar

UTIs most common cause of change in mental status in the nursing home residents. And instead of checking, they seem to send them all to the ED for an unnecessary mental status work up.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Nothing but death camps.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I’ve heard about that kind of scenario many times as well.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Sad how older people are neglected.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Indeed 😞

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Sally M's avatar

Yes- that happened to my MIL who already was experiencing dementia in early 2000’s. The belated diagnosis of a UTI made her even more confused!

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Fred's avatar

Hypothyroidism is another commonly missed problem. And no, the higher levels of “normal” TSH usually aren’t. Ignored by many a doc.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

A UTI should probably be one of the things the medical community should test for first.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Greed and corruption is what the medical community needs to be tested for.

Stay as far from the medical community as you can get if you want to protect your health !

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No kidding. Covid proved your statement.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Yeah, that is pretty common with elderly. The label of dementia and old gets attached to them, when it’s probably a UTI. First thing to look for.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Terrible way to treat older folks.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Unfortunately if you visit nursing homes and assisted living facilities, you’ll see most are forgotten. It’s very sad. They are so happy to see a new face when you visit them.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Very common. I always ask if they were tested for UTI. But I my friend in assisted living let me know that the doctor charges $300 per person he talks to on any visit. He will literally spend less than 2 minutes per person and charge that amount. It’s highway robbery and sounds like Medicare fraud. But they know how to game the system

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

When my mom was in a nursing home, her medications were provided by a company that had an incestuous relationship with this chain of nursing homes.

The meds were crazy expensive...more so than even if you were in the hospital.

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Robin Greer's avatar

She had a UTI herself and it took over a week to get meds

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I have a tendency to get UTIs when I travel internationally. Probably dehydrated, jet lagged, etc. After developing one outside of the US, and scrambling to find a doctor, I finally asked my PCP if I could have a "just in case" Rx to carry with me. It would eliminate the need to conquer a language barrier and relief can be started at the first signs of trouble so it doesn't spiral into a kidney infection, and possibly sepsis.

So, this is what I do. If you have had a UTI in the past, you know the symptoms.

Bactrim 2 pills per day for 3 days will knock it out.

Worst case scenario if a doctor is unwilling to oblige. Order the generic form of Bactrim from an online Indian pharmacy like AllDayChemist.

And for those of you who will criticize ordering Rx from an online Indian pharmacy, guess what, my last batch of blood pressure meds sent to me by the VA were manufactured in Bangladesh.

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Robin Greer's avatar

My mom had a standing order for that was well and she always kept some on hand.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

People who have recurrent UTIs are fully aware of when they are developing one. I wish more doctors would treat us like competent adults.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Anyone use D-mannose?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I purchased it one time from Amazon but I never used it.

Is it effective?

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Fred's avatar

Hearing the same thing…nurse friend with UTI sx for 1 day hospitalized with sepsis. Another, being a male, missed the obvious sx for days, spent 12 hours waiting in an ER to be seen with fever and shaking chills, left AMA and finally started taking the oral antibiotics another 16 hours later did just fine. Unvaxxed, but had Covid. Reading between the lines, he had bacteremia (shaking chills) but didn’t develop the multi organ effects of sepsis. Yes, it’s only two cases, but you have to be intrigued by the comparison. Oh, and the female with sepsis is 30 years younger than the male without.

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Full Name's avatar

Thank you for sharing. I often think that “they” don’t share vaccine information because “they” don’t want “us” to be able to make informed decisions. I still wonder if the “vaccine” is just a red herring all the while the virus is still the real issue for ALL of “us”.

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Normally it is and easily gone with antibiotics! This is abnormal to me. Older people for whatever reason do get them but easily treated. I know! Also I am a retired RN with a retired license because of the pandemic mess.

In 2022, my husband was septic from the worst UTI I ever saw. Right now at 88 he is sitting beside me waiting for our wellness check. I’m astounded at what is going on.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Heard recently cellulitis and then septic, 2 people.

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