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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

...."A “bad day for science” means it was a great day for human beings." Well, that's about as succinct and totally accurate as you can get. Good on ya! A bad day for science is also a bad day for a stacked pharmaceutical portfolio. My heart bleeds.

I'm reading Mark Twain's The Gilded Age and I came across this passage which - while not as succinct - also sums up the medical profession in a nutshell:

Whether medicine is a science, or only an empirical method of getting a living out of the ignorance of the human race, Ruth found before her first term was over at the medical school that there were other things she needed to know quite as much as that which is taught in medical books, and that she could never satisfy her aspirations without more general culture.

“Does your doctor know any thing—I don’t mean about medicine, but about things in general, is he a man of information and good sense?” once asked an old practitioner. “If he doesn’t know anything but medicine the chance is he doesn’t know that.”

This was written in 1873.

Despite being on opposite ends of the spectrum on certain topics, I believe Jeff and Mr. Twain would be the best of friends.....perhaps not kindred spirits, but more like iron sharpening iron over several cups of Covid...uh, coffee.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Narrow minded Drs? I.e. specialists who know nothing of diet, and even the effects of medications.

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LMWC's avatar

We have become a society of the assembly line. Hips replaced, knees done, shoulders replaced. Heart Stents put in at record levels and the new one….pacemakers. Spend 5 minutes with a heart surgeon you will never see again while he explains the procedure. Sent home that same day to feel like crap for a couple of weeks. See the device manager once a year to see how that battery is holding up. Back in 10 years at the latest to have battery replaced just like your 2018 Chevy. Ain’t it all grand on the assembly line of medicine.

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Beth's avatar

I'm one of those people who doesn't go to doctors. I go to naturopaths and chiropractors. And I'm way healthier than my siblings. But they punish me, I can't get any health insurance coverage for any of that. Especially on medicare. So my choice to get healthy medical support has to come out of my own pocket. And I'm just used to it now.

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Beth's avatar

I was at a party talking to a doctor, and I mentioned that frustration. He was so condescending and hateful towards me after that. He sneered and then said naturopaths will tell you to put peanut butter in your veins! And you people just do what they tell you. Of course they don't cover that! It's quackery!

Smh. The way Rockefeller propagandized people was to legitimize the real quacks, and make the people doing natural health work be the ones that were suspect.

I got away from that guy's fast as I could! Made a mental note to never use him as a doctor! It's all so upside down!

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Maha's avatar

The one service I miss having great access to here in Colorado is Naturopaths. While I lived in Washington State, I was able to see amazing NDs who looked at causes of problems, not just ameliorating symptoms with more and more Pharma. Washington State has a broad practice law for NDs; they can prescribe a variety of Pharma meds, and many do a great job with bioidentical hormone care. They are certainly not quacks.

Here is Colorado there is no licensure for NDs, and I have had conversations with MDs who just consider them a "referral source", and think they don't "do any harm". Now those MDs are the quacks and charlatans.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Medical schools are indoctrination centers today… push the rx pad… push the vaccines … and any kid who is a critical thinker- in that system- is squeezed out

They’re creating soldiers

With an ideology

So remember that when you go to most MDs… it’s just someone with an OPINION you’re seeing … you’re paying for their opinion

Do not substitute your own God given intuition - for anyone else’s opinion

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Beth - I'm sure he would never tell you about anything that actually worked to heal a person. Like DMSO for instance. I read about that again this morning in a Vigilant Fox Substack, who cited A Midwestern Doctor. A true miracle cure for so many things, discovered in 1961, but intentionally suppressed by the FDA and the corrupt medical establishment.

I'm on Medicare and Medicaid, and my coverage with Aetna Advantage doesn't allow me to see the only local nurse practitioner who knows that the jab was deadly and told me she is glad I didn't take it. I can't afford to pay for any visits or exams, etc. so I haven't seen her in over a year. I see a pulmonologist in a nearby county once a year, and she prescribes the only med I am on, Prednisone, which I use sparingly for my breathing situation. Other than that, I refuse to have any contact with doctors or hospitals. I'll remain at home, no matter what.

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SD Scott's avatar

You might try nebulizing liquid glutathione.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Interesting reasoning. You are looking for solutions in the exact wrong places. Alt docs are typically not MD's unless renegades.

Refusal is one step but does not solve your issues...

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rolandttg's avatar

There are exceptions, on this site, and that I know personally, but by a large, I wouldn't trade a cup of warm spit for what most doctors know and do. That is information gained the Very hard way in the past 7 years.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You also use the word doctor to equate with MD (mad dogs)

There are many others. Good pertinent info is readily available IF you know where to look

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RJ Rambler's avatar

You shoulda ran first! (I know that's poor English. I'm dumber than Drs who, didn't know that are getting kickbacks for drug sales. SERIOUSLY had one tell me and my daughter that!)

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Leo's avatar

Chalk it up to Ignorance.

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rolandttg's avatar

$$$.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

They acted that way because you were at a party. If you told that same doctor that you were going to naturopaths and chiropracters when they were 'on the clock', they'd keep their mouths shut. The AMA has figured out that attacking 'alternative medicine' is not a winning position for them.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You were speaking with an allopath, a member of the Medical Cartel.

Thinking that he would be receptive to hearing about a Naturopath

is an interesting idea. Naturopaths are doctors, you should know that.

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Constitution Rules's avatar

yes dear

that being said, my naturopath is married to an allopathic dr. They do exist in the wild.

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Fred Ickenham's avatar

Well of course you're never going to use him as a doctor since you never use doctors, so no loss to either of you!

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Mike's avatar

The best revenge is living well!!

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rolandttg's avatar

Socratres? Been saying that for 30 years

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JCrutcher's avatar

Years ago, I stumbled across a good chiropractor who became a 'health coach', Dr. James Grilliot retired, teaching us to not be a patient. Still having to pay out-of-pocket to not be a patient. Very blessed to be able to do this.

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Karmy's avatar

Beth investigate homeopathy. It’s been around for longer than allopathic medicine, is very effective, inexpensive and widely practiced worldwide except in the US because of the AMA and Big Pharma. The best part is there are no side effects.

Homeopathy healed the Spanish Flu Pandemic in 1918.

https://drleonardcoldwell.com/2020/11/24/homeopathy-healed-the-spanish-flu-pandemic-in-1918/

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Beth's avatar

Been using that as well as a aromatherapy for 30 years. I just ignore what the medical doctor say and go figure it out myself.

I had a female gynecologist told me that I should get a complete hysterectomy because my uterus was not serviceable anymore. I just had fibroids, so I went and got some EDTA, use that for 6 months, and when I went back to her all my fibroids were gone. She was baffled! And I never went back to her again either.

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Karmy's avatar

We need to spread the word to others, Beth, about the benefits of homeopathy and aromatherapy. Most people don’t know there are viable options because they are censored.

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RandiG's avatar

Beth,

I wish I knew about EDTA. I just started looking it up. There is still so much we don't know about.

Thank you for sharing!

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Elaine H's avatar

Amazing. What made you chooseETDA?

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MnmMom's avatar

Would really like to know more about EDTA and how you used it. Very interested.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

and just imagine if you, like so MANY of her patients, had the hysterectomy she offered?!

-- the rest-of-your life pharma feed to compensate for the lack of hormones

-- the possible side effects.

You saved yourself a LOT of pain and grief I'll bet.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

I have found a great YouTube channel called "Senior Secrets" that exposes so much of what we have come to just blindly accept or agreed to be done and the truth behind them ($$$ always $$$). At first I thought "well, this is going to be a joke." It is actually quite good.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

I do have to say that my complete hysterectomy was the best thing I’ve had. My face cleared up. My moods stabilized. My energy increased.

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Media Luna's avatar

What is EDTA? (Unfortunately too late for me, I learned my lesson the bad way 14 years ago 😢🤦🏼‍♀️)

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Maha's avatar

ETDA? How did you administer it? It is a primary chelation agent, given I.V., but certainly has important precautions to consider depending on the co-morbidities of the patient. Were you taking it orally?

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Mrs.P's avatar

YES!!! I am a new client of a practicing classical homeopath and amazed at the results I’m seeing. My background is critical care nursing and I am working on being way less dependent on allopathic medicine than in my younger years.

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Lynn46's avatar

My grandmother, born in 1899 and a practicing Christian Scientist, told me yrs ago they made their own quinine and no one in the family got sick.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Oh sister we are singing from the same book! I am so frustrated that I am FOR ED to accept big pHARMa on “Miserycare”. Why can’t the system give me the money they stole from me and let me take MY money, opt out of their “system” and use it for a freakin’ voodoo doctor if I wish. If I opt out, it is up to me to budget my Health Savings so I don’t run out of money. Let me find old fashioned insurance to cover me for major medical. I see far too many people 65+ who’s whole being is traipsing from one specialist to another getting their “free” procedures which enrich the doctor but seem to make more ill side effects for the patient. To wit; Afib= the 21st century tonsillectomy- EVERYONE needs a procedure for afib these days. Statins, Metformin, Blood pressure meds…of course EVERYONE needs these and the poor people with aching legs (from the statin!) get muscle relaxers and pain meds and the ones who go goofy are diagnosed with dementia and get Aracept (sp?) I HATE FORCED MEDICARE; the government has no damn business running medical or educational businesses. Bring back The 10th Amendment.

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RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Making me worry about my dad… they’re diagnosing him in this direction and I’m the external unvaxxed skeptic… so far tho, he respects me… the docs tend to roll their eyes at my questions

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Danielle's avatar

Just had a similar experience with my mother. Very bad eye problem for 18 months and all the “top of the range” specialists have done is prednisone up, prednisone down, see us each week.

I flew interstate for a visit, went with her and started asking questions (rather angrily, I will admit, although I wasn’t rude or personally nasty).

The next week they did a biopsy (in surgery) and some swabs and lo and behold - it was a bacterial infection. I am sure you could imagine just how furious I was after that.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Good for you RebeccaGrrrl!

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Peace's avatar

Bitsy - what's the connection between aching legs and statins?

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Muscle damage from the statins. Statins also associated with dementia, liver damage, and diabetes. See A Midwestern Doctor.

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Bitsy54's avatar

It is a major side effect, also brain fog. A good book is The Great Cholesterol Con. Easy to understand and written by a cardiologist in the UK.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You willfully paid into that "system" Why are you surprised it is criminal now as it was then? Elderly people typically know nothing about health, but that began many decades earlier

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Bitsy54's avatar

Willfully? No, it was stolen from my paycheck. And there is no real choice to avoid bs Pharma. I prefer the government stop trying to be “daddy”. People need to go back to self sufficiency and save for the future.

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SD Scott's avatar

Connecting dots is now very dangerous. 🤨

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Same for me, Beth! 👍

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Maha's avatar

Basic Part 2 Medicare covers a few treatment codes for chiropractic care. It does not cover exams or any other service. It has no limit for visits provided the care is documented as medically necessary. Many Medicare Advantage plans, especially if a PPO plan, will cover it as well, although they may cap visits. I have been in two different Medicare Advantage plans since I turned 65, and both covered chiropractic treatment.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

you are making the case that insurance dictates your life

Good luck you missed the boat

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Maha's avatar

Your assumption is completely incorrect. I didn't make that case at all. I was responding with facts about insurance coverage for the poster that was unfamiliar with the topic.

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rolandttg's avatar

Kudos to you. Almost everything we did for my wifes' holiostic cancer cure was out of pocket, but as you said, "What price your life?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

$$ for services rendered just like filling up your car with gas

That is exactly how it should be.

Reclaiming health does require expertise whan the afflicted has no such expertise.

The Cure was the advice. The fee was for expertise.

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rolandttg's avatar

I completely agree. But I have a real issue with insurance, and Medicare do not pay for holistic care but shoehorn you into big Pharma harm or hurt care. Why do I have to pay, have to pay, for something that is harmful, and then pay again to pay for something that works?

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SD Scott's avatar

Do tell! What did you do??

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rolandttg's avatar

I posted here back in full detail in 6 posts (too long to do in one) what we did, and a man named Mike put the information all together into one. Again, it is too long to post here, but we got the vast majority of information from books. Here is a cut and paste from the first installment, Read just one of them, and you will know more about cancer than ~90 % of oncologists. Read them all ( we read at least a half dozen other books,) , and you will know ~90 % of what we know about cancer.

Sorry, but I have posted this information many times already on this thread, and I am very busy taking care of (her) 11 week old puppy and my wife after she tore her quad tendon last week and has a full leg cast and crutches after the operation. So, I have 2 babies to take care uf on top of all my usual work.

Read ALL of these, and make it a project that is not optional. All we read for 7 months was cancer books. We read more than these, but these are the key ones we used. Most I have read at least twice

1) "Cancer is not a Disease. It is a Healing Mechanism". Andreas Moritz

2) "Killing Cancer , not People". Bob Wright

3) "Healing is Voltage". Dr. Jerry Tennant

4) "B-17. World Without Cancer". G. Edward Griffin

5) " The Truth about Cancer". Ty Bollinger

6) "Cancer Free". Bill Henderson

7)) " The Enzyme Factor". Hiromi Shinya

Each of these books has something very important to offer. Chapter 5 and 6 of G. Edward Griffin's book tells you what causes normal cells to mutate into cancer cells, how the body controls cancer, how to kill cancer cells. The first 4 books are all gems. #1, 6, and 7 are the best for giving you the most detailed information on what to do if you already have cancer. There will be some, but not a lot, of contradictory information, Choose what will work for you, what you can afford, as you simply cannot do everything, nor do you need to. Read them as if your life depends on it , because it might.

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Robyn Welch's avatar

Have you looked into medishare? I don't know whst they cover, but they're Christian based.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Medishare won’t cover over 65…the government has us all trapped in their Miserycare System. It and the Education Cabal need to be busted up.

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Robyn Welch's avatar

I did not know that. I'm disappointed to hear that.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

self shackled

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Peace's avatar

I believe Medishare (or another equivalent company) does cover over 65. It was one of the options I was considering when going through all the Social Security options - might look further into it.

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Barbls's avatar

I heard a radio ad for over 65 medishare. Maybe a recent addition?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

the idea that somehow Christians might have a better take on healthcare sounds like it could be true but NEVER has been

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Robyn Welch's avatar

Hopefully they would be more fair and honest.

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shayne's avatar

I looked. It was quite expensive.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

and that Shayne is how they control you... it is always $$$

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Garden Lover's avatar

Same here.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

How incredibly wrong is that?

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I always felt the same way but, over 40 years have forked over THOUSANDS of dollars to NDs who SWORE they could help me, one of which simply quit, and she came HIGHLY recommended. She took the $$$ and walked away. The very last supplement she Rx'd me was for anxiety.....ROFL.

I continue to look for "good" ones but I do my own research and do the basics to try to mitigate the really bad stuff.

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SD Scott's avatar

Naturopaths never seem interested in root causes, just endless tests & supplements.

Removing toxins & parasites are of no interest to them. And yet these are what provoke symptoms.

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Beth's avatar

Then they aren't real naturopaths. That's all mine do. And when we were told not to use ivermectin that was the first thing they started looking at. It was my naturopath who showed me that parasites are actually at the bottom of most of our problems, and I ever met him kills parasites, therefore that's why medical communities don't want using ivermectin. If we can kill parasites and cure yourself then we don't need them anymore. But my naturopath is very good. Then again I'm in a huge metropolitan area. So more choices I think.

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Maha's avatar

You have had a run of bad luck with Naturopaths. Mine were all about root causes. My ND who I had the longest association REFUSED to sell supplements. He sent people to local outlets or online to buy anything.

Any testing I have had done at the suggestion of NDs always illuminated the understanding of whatever issue I was having, and was often life changing in scope and effect. Any provider needs to measure in order to know how to proceed.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

wrong Naturopath What you say about toxins and parasites is inaccurate

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Truth Seeker's avatar

difficult to believe any doc would so swear, however that is not the same thing as having confidence in a therapeutic. Good and Bad not particularly useful descriptor.

Just saying.

You did not "fork over" you invested in your health and are suggesting something nefarious. Strongly suspect a patient thinking they are the flat tire and the doc is Goodyear.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

LOL....."invested" is right.....invested in their kids college funds!

And after all of the horrific adverse conditions I've suffered at the hands of really BAD doctors, most of which were dentists, aka Iatrogenic causes, I have ZERO problem calling most of them B-A-D.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

there are doctor shoppers who believe they are the flat tire and the latest doc is Goodyear... However health issues are often complex and intertwined

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Naturopaths and Chiropractors are Doctors. They are NOT allopathic doctors.

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Leo's avatar

Same, but entirely worth it!

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shayne's avatar

Me too!

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SB's avatar

And the whole gender scam is about nothing but money. Once you start mucking around with opposite sex hormones, you’re a patient for life. Start ‘em early! The whole medical industrial complex is mostly about money. Sick people make them more money. I’m reading “Good Energy” by Casey Means. It’s an interesting take but mostly what I’m getting out of it is patients who present with multiple maladies are simply passed from one specialist to another and none of them ever ask “Hmmm, I wonder if these things are connected?” Duh

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Bitsy54's avatar

And now they are “prescribing” Ozempic like drugs for EVERYONE! Not a word about lifestyle changes and diet changes.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

and just like the Quaxcine it requires stupid and compliant people

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Billy Bob's avatar

I know three people taking it. All three are diabetic and think it’s the best thing since sliced bread. All have lost weight.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Taking it for diabetes vs weight loss when you are NOT diabetic are two different things. Everyone with a weight loss program is pushing it for weight loss alone, even for kids.

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WP William's avatar

A Real Journalist needs to investigate the origins and persons who promulgated the rise of the Western Queer Medical-Political-Financial-Occultic Industrial Cult-Complex. It began long before the famed Trinidad Colorado operation-central (Penis-ectomies) in the 1960s-70s, and has transitioned much of the culture via the radical demands to normalize and de-stigmatize and fund the mainstreaming insertion of it into every aspect of daily life and thinking, ripping and tearing and mutilating every "oppressive" notion of gender, sex, personality, family, and humanity in order to re-stitch it all back in some indecipherable, angered, entitled and violence-prone Frankenstein's Monster upon normal society at large.

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Quiltlady's avatar

Thank you for speaking truth in such an eloquent way.

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WP William's avatar

i could use an editor, as often i get hate replies on my run-on semi-incoherent, non/improperly punctuated impulse commentaries, that tend to bob and weave in an ADHD-on-speed manner with bipolarity hues; but it's stylistic in a way...unconventional, rant-ish, and intentionally causes readers to either skip out running the uncharted rapids entirely or make an attempt to navigate through it, slow down, perhaps digest some key wording, thoughts, concepts and then paste those shards into some semblance of their own more refined and improved mental version. Often more a Dead Sea Scrolls kind of scattershot, or pictographic in nature than formulaic and proper, readable English! Troubled waters for sure and no glassy calming sea awaiting one at the end of the turbulent typing should one choose to suffer through.

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shayne's avatar

Well said!!!!!!!

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Garden Lover's avatar

Yes, to these specialists, nothing in the body is connected to anything else, unless you have a heart attack that caused a stroke due to a blot clot. Otherwise, each organ, each mechanism is a universe unto itself.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Exactly!

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Mostly inaccurate. The gender scam was designed to destroy social fabric and normalize homosexual behaviors. Practitioners may be grifters however they are mostly opportunist and did not create the dilema.

Mucking around? No, destroying endocrine tissue while facilitating psychological damage. The reason "people" are sick begins between their ears. Adults who know nothing about health are the rule.

Children who reproduce make... more children. Reasoning skills absent.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

And.....the billing....oh...the billing....

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Studies have shown that stents are completely useless but do generate a lot of income.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I cannot say Stents are completely useless, I have two in my heart, one was necessary because I had a 100% blockage of my Right Main Coronary Artery, the other because of a 95% blockage of my Left Circumflex artery. I would have died, in fact, my heart stopped on the table, the stents saved my life. How could this happen to someone who never smoked, drinks very little, exercises a lot and eats with moderation - Im not fat/obese. The "docs" made a ton of money on each, around $50k per stent.

My question is what ingredients from vaccines, food, medicine (secondary effects), etc have been intentionally and surreptitiously introduced into my body which resulted in these massive blockages. (I did not get the covid pLandemic poison but got many many other vax jabs due to going to public schools and being in the Army for 34 years). We see example after example now, of massive clots being removed from people's arteries, etc, due to the pLandemic mRNA poisons.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

"...one was necessary because I had a 100% blockage of my Right Main Coronary Artery,..."

Interestingly enough, a coronary patient in Germany is REQUIRED to go through chelation therapy prior to ever being approved for open heart surgery. Over 80% DO NOT go on to get the surgery.

Chelation therapy is considered like voodoo in this country. Sounds like it's right up there with Ivermectin.

Of course, many countries also refuse to import ANY of our meats due to the unhealthy manufacturing processes.

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rolandttg's avatar

Thanks for posting that. Most heart operations, like almost all gallbladder removals, are unnecessary and can be treated holistically. But, $$$

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I will need to study up on Chelation therapy, Im guessing it can also help post MI patients?

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Truth Seeker's avatar

and it all requires stupid compliant people who understand nothing about health. Germans are in the top 3 list for terrible dietary choices.

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KBH Geronimo's avatar

Austin, right on!

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Coop's avatar

I am on Medicare, no vax, very healthy, and walking a lot. I raise my own organic fruits, lettuce, vegetables, herbs, and teas.

Like Dan I have had the pleasure of multiple stents. Only after weaning myself off "heart medicine" was I able to stop more heart attacks.

My faith in Christ, a balanced diet, exercise, hydration, right amount of sleep helped.

Learning balanced supplementation with daily nicotine patch have kept me healthy/COVID free.

The hard work outside in my garden has turned the tide for me.

I also read Mercola and The Midwestern Doc for great insights on health.

I know we were chosen for such a time as this. Praise God.

Our kids, grandkids, and future great grands are going to need our faith, experience, and strength.

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rolandttg's avatar

2 excellent sources

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Truth Seeker's avatar

growing your own organic food puts you in the top 5%

What is missing?? What component is Dr. M and the MidW doc missing?

Here is a hint since you are clearly a believer.

Certainly you recall the story of Jesus turning over the tables in the temple... Scrutize the reason for that action, scrutinize it.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Coop,

Off what heart medicine did you wean yourself?

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M2's avatar

Why do you use the nicotine patch?

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SD Scott's avatar

A Midwestern Doctor had a lot to say about blood stasis & its attendant repercussions arising around 1800 with the smallpox vaccines.

I take Neprinol enzymes to break up biofilms in the gut (which parasites hide behind), as well as fibrin in blood clots.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Thanks, In what form are these Neprinol enzymes?

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

While I think about it. One of the most vicious criminals in the history of the country, nancy "pelosisaurus" pelosi, made a mistake during one of her drunken press briefings... she told the truth.... she admitted to the Multi billion dollar annual "Doc Fix" - which is a massive appropriation of yours and my tax dollars to pay the difference between what insurance companies pay and what they bill. You don't think the Docs - and the insurance companies - take a knee in front of tipsy queen pelosi and her ultra liberal den of thieves?

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Carolyn's avatar

Stents don't save lives. That is GOD'S job. You might should thank GOD who deserves the praise and glory..

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Oh, I thank God daily, I think he gave someone the intelligence to devise stints to save us from dying early, so we could make a difference IAW His Perfect Will. God had, has, work for me to do.

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The Great Santini's avatar

Read the Cholesterol Con and The Clot Thickens both by Dr. Malcolm Kendrick to learn about what causes heart disease. Surprising.

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shayne's avatar

My hubby had several stents put in 18 years ago, they went bad, so he had them replaced but they found more places to put them. He didn't change his lifestyle, so I expect this will continue.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

fools will perish from lack of ??? that would be knowledge

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Truth Seeker's avatar

your blockage was because of decades of poor dietary practice

It is a wonder any are still standing

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I really dont eat terribly bad, but again, just not sure what the medicine and “food” being offered to us isn’t hurting us more than helping. I’ve completely lost faith in medicine and the greedy Docs who abandoned their hypocratic oath.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

I have a neighbor that had a couple installed or a few, I don’t remember, and is attending the subsequent physical therapy sessions at the hospital gym. She is extremely agitated about the fact that it did not help her at all and maybe even impacted her negatively. That surprised me..

… because I had believed that stents worked every time

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Cousin Clem's avatar

The studies show that they have no different outcome from people that did not get them.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I had immediate relief. Was able to immediately (within 3 days) go back to almost full exercise regime - albeit at lower rates and pounds initially.

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kittynana's avatar

@Cousin-- depends on who they studied.

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C. Wilson's avatar

My better half has had relief after stents.

He and I diverge on medical issues. I think he might not have needed the stents had he skipped all the meds he's been on to prevent them and other issues. Statins BP etc.

I "just said no" and went researching prevention. I'm old and don't take or need anything medical. I've had some orthopedic issues, which you would need too if you'd done what I've done. Those guys are ok.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

You are past the point of prevention. He needed life saving intervention. Prevention is the way forward and an option before the crisis. However the remedy requires a patient with ears to hear and willingness to stop the stupid stuff.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

It would be useful to know what a stent is and why it is placed

Heart surgery affects every patient...

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Joze's avatar

Was interested to understand what Cousin Clem (link to one study/article: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/02/12/upshot/heart-stents-are-useless-for-most-stable-patients-theyre-still-widely-used.html ) and Jeremiah were talking about? Still wonder - Are these people feeling fine, going to the Doctor and being told they need Stents - and then not sensing positive results? (because people I've talked to that have had a heart attack, while exercising - with a blocked artery, said they felt like they could go right back to their work-out after getting the stent...).... Granted that's one story - which is kinda fun to balance with visiting Palmaz Vineyard in Napa (founder is Guy who invented the Stent)... to see where some of the resulting money goes. (actually really nice place & decent wine).

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Mike's avatar

OK, 50yo went down with terrible pain in my chest. Er, Cath lab, operating room in quick succession. Found 96% occluded LAD (left anterior descending) commonly the "widow maker". Stent installed, went home next day. Walking 2 miles a day 4 days later. Still upright and walking 19 years later! Sometimes medicine ISN'T a farce!

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Joze's avatar

Thanks…. Kinda plays into my take on health care…. Glad it’s there for when I need it…. But going in for them to “Practice Medicine” on me needs to wait for a good reason to do so.

Best wishes for continued good health!

👍

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Rob's avatar

This is a place to read about the scams and money games being played on us, it's good to be reminded that modern medicine does help... a lot!

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kittynana's avatar

@Mike- Substack needs a love button

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rolandttg's avatar

Read that so are by passes

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Robyn Welch's avatar

A heart dr told me one of my heart quadrant is "sluggish", and at some point I will need a pacemaker. At my 3-month follow-up with the same dr, he looked at the same report and told me everything looks great. 🙄

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Free in Florida's avatar

Might I suggest a new cardiologist?

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Robyn Welch's avatar

He's supposed to be the best in this area.

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Full Name's avatar

1000% of zero is still zero...

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Free in Florida's avatar

Yes, sadly, we’ve all been stuck with that. Good luck!

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LMWC's avatar

I ended up with a pacemaker last December when a put off wellness physical detected a heart rate of 29 resting. I had no symptoms. The first cardiologist I saw a month later said he thought I had had this condition for some time. He felt I was in line for a pacemaker but I needed an electro cardiologist to verify. The referral was two months out. Two weeks later at an echocardiogram, the tech was alarmed enough at my still 29 heart rate to call in a floor cardiologist. She said I needed a pacemaker today. My husband was scared to death. So I got a pacemaker from a doctor I met with for 4 minutes in pre op and never saw again. I can’t help but feel that perhaps this wasn’t an emergency, and feel no different than before except that I can feel the pacemaker every time I shift in bed. Since this episode I know of 6 other people who got pacemakers right before mine and after.

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Jalb's avatar

Are you athletic? A runner or biker? My husband has had a resting heart rate of 52 for YEARS! He recently had to have a valve replaced (long time murmur and finally had bad symptoms) and has been fine ever since.

He has a remote monitor and his recordings show a heart rate at night as low as 39.

He is 85 but works out strenuously daily - cardio plus weights - at least one to two hours - never misses a day! His low heart rate is due to being in amazing shape!

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Are you a Conservative? Does he know you are a Conservative? Is he a liberal?

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Robyn Welch's avatar

Should that even matter?

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

It shouldn't, but it does. Did it matter to many Docs, to the government, etc who hate Conservatives enough to attempt killing all of us? Know your doc's politics, it may save your life...

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Jeff S's avatar

Frankenzombies.

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Billy Bob's avatar

I have an implanted defibrillator that was installed three years ago at the recommendation of the cardiologist handling an Afib condition. The story goes external defibrillators are risky for heart issues unless they are within immediate proximity of the patient and applied right away. So having one on call within your body is the solution, supposedly…🤭

Last month at a yearly check up I was asked to submit to both an EKG exam and a computer examination of the defibrillator. I declined both and upon finally visiting the cardiologist my record was duly noted along with a witness in the room. When he asked me why I said unless there has been a recall on this defibrillator’s model ( he his a wall display that looks like a car lot with all the different defibrillators made) I don’t see the need. It hasn’t gone off since installation. And I am not going to get up grade in the future if the battery dies. As far as the EKG, that just shows a graph of an irregular heart beat which we already know since that’s the reason I’m here. The appointment ended with “See you next year.” I said “Hopefully.”

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VelvetStitching's avatar

And now to see those who opted to be "Donor" on their Drivers License may become one sooner than their life expectancy!

Is this the "expert" medicine we can claim now? Welcome to the 21st Century!

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C. Wilson's avatar

There is NO way either of us will be donors. We have seen medical people (we were emergency services) brow beat families into agreeing to their dying,, but not dead, loved one being used as an organ donor.

Follow the money.

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Karmy's avatar

Recently read an article about how they take your organs while you are still alive!

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2025/07/21/organ-retrieval-reforms-ordered-after-some-donors-showed-signs-life/

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Rob's avatar

It seems having a checked "Donor" box on your drivers license gives your dead body more value that it has alive in certain places...

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Fred Dauber's avatar

Then don't do it, your choice. Quit yer bitchin'.

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Jalb's avatar

Makes you wonder what their response is to “Physician - heal thyself”

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Truth Seeker's avatar

and the reason that is accurate is actually quite simple

People do not comprehend health or it origins. Daily they subsist on garbage, and then watch the Fake News Echo Chamber. Then they listen to their MD's.

It does not end well.

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Fred Ickenham's avatar

I don't think people who have had these life saving and life quality saving procedures would quite agree with your dismissive point of view. I want my surgeon to know his/her field best of all and don't care a lot whether I spend more than 5 minutes in communion.

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HamburgerToday's avatar

I don't know what you'r complaining about. Every single on of the things you mentioned have more-or-less worked with a declining failure/morbidity rate over time. You may have a point about 'assembly line medicine' but we also have a responsibility to not be 'assembly line unhealty'.

When it comes to *mechanical* issues, its hard to beat the success rate of allopathic, standard medicine (especially if you get a competent MD). However, *systemic* problems are much more difficult to identify and resolve. But that's true with any system, including that in a 2018 Chevy.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Frighteningly true, LMWC! And, if Elon Musk has his way with this "Neuralink" enterprise - we will have our "BRAIN RECALIBRATED" every 5-10 years (depending upon the country of manufacturing origin - give me a USA-mfd. neuralink PULEEZE!! )

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kittynana's avatar

@LMWC- record levels because Boomers are the main recipients of those procedures and we're in the middle of the Boomer life expectency. That's just common sense. And thank God for pacemakers.

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Mike's avatar

Oh yeah, I just had my annual Medicare Checkup (required). I found myself being scolded by a 300lb plus mid 40's "Dr" That I needed to watch my obesity creating diet! Being 73yo, 6'1", 190lbs with a BMI of 26, I took the opportunity to laugh in his face. Statistics being what they are the good Dr is unlike to reach my current age. Ahhh, the wonder of corporate DEI in medicine.

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Garden Lover's avatar

My grandfather died 5 days shy of his 95th birthday. He didn’t drink, he didn’t smoke, he was a complete curmudgeon, and he outlived 3 doctors. His last one said that he didn’t know if he wanted to be my grandfather’s doctor because the odds weren’t good. LOL

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

I don’t think Medicare requires an annual checkup. At least that’s what my elderly Mom’s doctors have told her, and I’ve never been “required” either. What are they going to do if you don’t have an annual checkup? Kick you off Medicare? I think it’s simply the doc’s way of making sure they get a fat check from Medicare. Try pushing back next year, tell your doctor to show you in writing where you’re required to have a checkup, and see what happens…😊

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

😂😂😂😂 That physician needs to change specialty- maybe pathologist would be a better fit!

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AJF's avatar

Mike, I've been on Medicare for 5 years and haven't been told I needed a yearly "checkup"

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Leo's avatar

Not required.

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Mike's avatar

Thanks for the info. Next time FAFO!!

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Miss Rodeo's avatar

I am required to have a yearly Medicare checkup? Hell, I am only 5 years late. Covid knocked the need for a checkup clean outta me!

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Bonnie Lester's avatar

Well… I’m going to get out my Medicare Booklet: Medicare and You-2025… and read it! lol! I’m wanting to be “in the know!”.😁…I’ve never been told I need a yearly check-up… but my doctor does say he likes to run annual blood tests… not required though.

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Kathryn Dewalt's avatar

Mike, I'm 79 and was also told that an annual Medicare well-care appt (or some stupid name) was "required." So I told the foreign accented guy (whom I literally cannot understand) and who works from home because I can hear his kids...that I don't go to a doctor when I'm well. And I will not be told that I am required to do anything medical. My body - My choice!😂

I fought those med-monkeys the whole SCAMdemic and they are NOT forcing me to do anything I don't want to do! I never got the jabs and I didn't wear masks most of the time! (true enough, I was ushered out of the Safeway where I'd shopped for 46 years... but only because our word war was getting out of hand. I never reported that little pissant and that's my bad!)

If one needs to see their PCP for updating meds and such, or one chooses to see the doc, I can see going along with a well-check...but for no other reason!

May you be WELL and CONTENT in GOD's Goodness and Grace!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

They absolutely know nothing about nutrition.

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Burton Tschache's avatar

Nutrition is hardly taught in the pharmaceutically pfunded medical schools. It's an elective class, just like ethics in law school. Hmm, does anyone else see a pattern here?

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RJ Rambler's avatar

All you have to do is ask them and you'll know. Mom's cardiologist said she knows low carb diet works but who wants to eat a low carb diet. It's just not anyone's culture. !! Little pills with a little co pay are easy.

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Mike's avatar

I was told by my cardiac "team", by that I mean all of the docs I have, that my Carnivore diet will kill me! I lost 24 lbs in the first 2 months, lowered my BP, normalized my blood sugar, watched all of my skin tags magically fall off. My energy surged and I'm off any meds. that was 5 years ago. Weight, tags, fatigue are a thing of the past and look at all the money I saved by not buying drugs. See ya in heaven!!

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Fiona walker's avatar

The low carb diet is actually delicious - my evening meal last night was cod loin wrapped in pancetta, roasted asparagus and lemon, dill cream/butter sauce, with a glass of chilled Reisling. Beats fries any day! As long as you follow it 80% of the time you will be fine. Tomorrow is pizza and beer at the cricket!

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Mythos's avatar

My favorite meal about 2x per week, nice juicy ribeye with tons of fat. I’m sure the cardiologists would have a stroke just looking at it

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CMCM's avatar

Yum. Ribeye is my favorite. We splurge on it about once a week.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Well, the challenge is who wants to cook every day? 🤪

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Fiona walker's avatar

It took 15 minutes! The sauce was ready made from Marks & Spencer but its ingredients were minimal and no rapeseed oil. We shop at Aldi mainly which is a cheap store but has good basic (meat/fish) food if a limited range. Their grass fed steaks are great, seven minutes which gives time to whip up a salad. Low carb is the least complicated of any cuisine. Nobody needs loads of ultra processed stuff.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Those aren't in the standard protocols.

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MattD's avatar

Eric, appreciate you surfacing wisdom (which is timeless and why I didn’t phrase it “old” wisdom). I will note that it wasn’t originally written as a meme…Hmm? Anyway very early in my 40 year healthcare tech career I learned that unless something is paid for by insurance (i.e. someone else) it is not seen as a valid treatment option by the system. You are right (as usual) noting that it’s not in the protocols but it’s a vicious death spiral between protocols and payments. It is truly surreal how far much of our “advanced medicine” is now removed from common sense… and that brings me back to Mr. Clemens. Enjoy your day.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

And neither do Pharmacists. I asked one about the "Black Box" warning on a medication. She was a deer on the road and I smashed into her. Pathetic.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Yes

The destruction of medicine started when doctors no longer looked at the whole patient - and become organ specific experts.

As if the heart… doesn’t affect the circulatory system … or the liver or the kidneys… or the brain …

The body is a connected system … uh- some common sense please.

The way doctors are being trained - is a lot of the problem today… very few MDs see how the body is ALL connected- they just send you to this specialist and that specialist and then this specialist - and no one gets well with complex multi system illnesses!!!

The state of medical care is just terrible today.

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K Web's avatar

The Classic Hippocratic Oath...how far medicine has fallen! "...With regard to healing the sick, I will devise and order for them the best diet, according to my judgment and means; and I will take care that they suffer no hurt or damage.

Nor shall any man's entreaty prevail upon me to administer poison to anyone; neither will I counsel any man to do so. Moreover, I will give no sort of medicine to any pregnant woman, with a view to destroy the child.

Further, I will comport myself and use my knowledge in a godly manner.

I will not cut for the stone, but will commit that affair entirely to the surgeons.

Whatsoever house I may enter, my visit shall be for the convenience and advantage of the patient; and I will willingly refrain from doing any injury or wrong from falsehood, and (in an especial manner) from acts of an amorous nature, whatever may be the rank of those who it may be my duty to cure, whether mistress or servant, bond or free.

Whatever, in the course of my practice, I may see or hear (even when not invited), whatever I may happen to obtain knowledge of, if it be not proper to repeat it, I will keep sacred and secret within my own breast.

If I faithfully observe this oath, may I thrive and prosper in my fortune and profession, and live in the estimation of posterity; or on breach thereof, may the reverse be my fate!"

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

💯

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Danielle's avatar

Nurses in cardiac wards that cannot do a basic dressing.

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Carrie's avatar

As a doctor myself, I approve of this observation by Twain. I have observed how narrow the knowledge is amongst those in my profession. The most obvious example is the blind worship of vaccines and pharmaceuticals.

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SM's avatar

I’ve got a neighbor who had been an RN for many years, study and test become an NP, only to quit after their first year practicing because of how utterly ridiculous the rules and regulations have become. The medical community was unbearably hostile towards her because she’s not “pro mRNA “ or pro pharma and doesn’t worship the falsities and absurdities that come from CDC, AAP, AHA and so on. Medicine is not what it used to be in regards to doctors and other practitioners having freedom to treat patients without intense micromanagement from some white collar corporate yuppie who has never treated a patient or gotten a medical degree, but kisses important asses in upper management 😭🤮

I feel for those in the medical profession who are trying to help people and who aren’t afraid of going against the mindless $cience followers.

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Burton Tschache's avatar

There is a retired doctor in the men's group at our church that has made similar comments. He actually prescribed Ivermectin for his early C19 patients, to great success, before he was forbidden to do so.

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Lori's avatar

So Dr. Carrie, with all due respect, what are You doing to change things in medicine and to open the eyes of your deaf, dumb and blind colleagues? Are You out there speaking up about the jabs and how they maim and kill like the rest of us have been doing since 2021?

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Carrie's avatar

I was the only one of two physicians in my hospital leadership to oppose the vaccine mandate publicly which got me underhandedly removed from said leadership position. I was targeted by hospital executive leadership for Facebook posts warning about the harms of denying people’s right to work and support their families, and the lack of compassion by the medical establishment and government with regard to shutdowns and denying people’s ability to attend critical support groups like AA. I advised everyone I could not to get jabbed, or at least not to subject their children to it. I reached out to a local independent journalist to give her an insider view of how to counter the statements I knew physicians would make at city council meetings I was unable to attend because of work. I engaged with local government to express concerns regarding mandates in general, and the mandates related to not providing “elective” medical care like cancer screening and elective but necessary surgery, and attempted to recruit others to participate and sign on… and was threatened by one of my partners that if I keep this up I may get reported to the state medical board for “harming public health.” I encourage young medical professionals to get their financial houses in order to eliminate financial barriers to speaking up when medicine does wrong. I spoke up against not allowing family members in hospitals. I support legal foundations fighting for covid era victims. I may not be famous, but I’ve done and continue to do a lot, and am willing to lose my job to do so.

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Cheryl Stoker's avatar

Thank you for supporting those of us who are against vaccine mandates, big pharma & healthcare that only looks at the bottom line $$. You are appreciated!

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

Love your courage, Carrie!!

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Glenda Gallagher's avatar

👏👏 bravo!

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Carolyn's avatar

And I thank you!

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Astragale's avatar

Carrie - THANK YOU.

The world needs more Drs like you.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

That's a lot! Thank you, Dr. Carrie!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Thank you.

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Lori's avatar

Good to hear as that is what it takes. I am surprised you did not get fired with that kind of fierce activism when so many other docs like Kory, McCullough were along with their licenses revoked. Too bad most of your colleagues did not listen and continue to try to kill us. Keep stoking the fires and thank you for being only one in a vast sea of "doctors" that has balls to stand up and fight.

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Carrie's avatar

I was willing to learn the trade of plumbing, that was going to be my next career if I lost my ability to do my job. The construction trades seemed to be more sensible during covid (husband is an architect and contractor)… more independent thinking there.

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BelleTower's avatar

So smart! Do t leave medicine we need many more like you

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Thank you Dr. Carrie! Thank you. Thank you!!

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Martin Mehlberth's avatar

Thank you Dr. Carrie for honoring your Hippocratic Oath!!!!👍

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Steph's avatar

Thank you for speaking out! 🙏🏼

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Ruth H's avatar

Awesome 👏👏👏❤️❤️

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Carrie's avatar

Lori, at first I was annoyed by your question… but that’s my delicate ego (🤷‍♀️I’m a sinful human of course). I actually appreciate the question when I think non emotionally about it… it’s kind of like iron sharpening iron. I did a lot of things, but still can do more. Believe it or not, I still have my job without the annoying leadership position I was in before. I’ve never been covid jabbed, and stopped getting flu shots. The fight is definitely not over. It is quite lonely in my profession though, as I’m an outlier (although there are others like me in this substack). Another lonely pandemic era thing was being the only one at the grocery store without a mask… but I was able to educate a few curious people.

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Lori's avatar

I am sure you were as my question was to find out where you stand and what you are willing to sacrifice in the name of DO NOT HARM and how much you love your patients which is what medicine should be about. We are all past annoyed at what the AMA, NIH, CDC,USDA, WHO,FDA has done to us since 2020. It is unforgiveable frankly. Being an outlier is a badge of courage so wear it well and proudly. You don't need a convention of fellow docs standing next to you to tell you what is right and moral. You figured it out and took a stand. Better an outlier than a murderer. They broke trust in medicine, you did not. That is what counts on your life's resume.

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Astragale's avatar

Are you part of the IMA?

Sounds like you should be!

imahealth.org

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Carrie's avatar

I’ll have to look that up… not always quick to join things, but I did sign the great barrington declaration back during covid.

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Cindy evans's avatar

That beautiful declaration! What could have been…

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Lori's avatar

Fantastic!

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Brenda Ping's avatar

I’m thrilled Klaus is going down! I had read about the financial issues a year or more ago and have been wondering if he would ever be arrested. I’m curious about the effects on the leaders he bragged about placing: Macron, Starmer, King Charles, Trudeau (he seems to be on his way out). And of course our own Biden and Obama! Fun times!!

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Lori's avatar

I share your enthusiasm wholeheartedly!

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Burton Tschache's avatar

I have a great deal of respect for those doctors and nurses who have spoken out about the dangers of the jab. It takes some real courage to speak out against the profession that is your calling in life.

Before casting aspersions, you might want to consider the repercussions to medical professionals for speaking out. They are not good at all.

Fortunately, many of those that were demeaned, deplatformed and removed from different medical establishments to go on their own now have positions under the HHS umbrella thanks to RFKJr.

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Lori's avatar
Aug 6Edited

Yes we have known the repercussions for 5 years now; better than murdering people. Sounds like if you are or could have been a doc, you would have hidden behind the AMA and kissed their behinds. Good to know where you stand. There were also repercussions to those not in the medical profession for speaking up and out. But guess you don't know about that.

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Burton Tschache's avatar

You know nothing of me and I do not appreciate you putting words in my mouth. I was merely addressing the repercussions of speaking out.

Had I been in the medical profession, I would have been speaking out as that is in my nature to do so.

In my chosen profession of Information Technology, I spoke out many times against actions taken by my profession that have cost me employment. I do no kiss anyone's 🫏.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Lori is a bit of a bully who relishes the idea of metaphorically pinning people to the wall. You owe her nothing.

I’m in healthcare and I have taken a stand against the 💉 as well but I don’t owe Lori or anyone a defense. Dr Carrie seems like a true warrior.

❤️

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Lori's avatar

Bored now, next.

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Rob's avatar

**The most obvious example is the blind worship of vaccines and pharmaceuticals.**

In today's world vaccines & pharmaceuticals pay REALLY well ... I'm just saying that maybe "follow the money" is the advice to follow to find out what's really happening?

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BelleTower's avatar

Doctor I appreciate your forthrightness! I feel most doctors feel the need to defend their profession and their investment in it. Of course sensible people capable of thinking a little have stopped frequenting your offices. We have gone elsewhere and that is good. Open minded people cannot be kept from truth indefinitely.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I think highly of Mark Twain. I don’t know if he studied Stoic philosophy but his thoughts are inline with that tradition.

I’m sure someone is going to post a number of terrible mistakes he made. O well

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Well, we all have shortcomings, don't we. I'm not throwing any stones. That would be bad form and highly hypocritical...skeletons and all that.🤫 Nah, not interested. I've read much about Mr. Twain. He's an interesting chap. His love for his family is laudable. From what I've been able to gather I hold him in high regard. Of course, I'm a sucker for sarcasm, a quick wit, and colorful vocabulary.

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Donna in MO's avatar

And he was from Missouri, so there's that! 🙃

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Dr Linda's avatar

💯

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Dr Linda's avatar

Of course we all have shortcomings. I just knew there were comments coming. I probably should have just stayed quiet. One of my shortcomings : )

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alongername's avatar

" more tightly than a hobo clinging to his final fifth of Jack Daniels amidst a “mostly peaceful” BLM protest."

OMG .... you mean those hobos are drinking Jack Daniels nowadays !!

Now if that isn't evidence that the economy is booming , what is ?

Hey Jake.... let me have one of those Cuban cigars .......................

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Mike's avatar

What happened to hobo's drinking "blackberry ripple"? the magical brain killing elixir of my youth!

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Seems ol' Klaus Schwab has bought it all up in this story, lol.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Understood. That wasn't a dig at your comment.❤ I'm sure some negativity about all this is coming. You know what they say about opinions?.......

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Lori's avatar

I liked your comment Dr. Linda. Please don't stay silent. There has been enough of that going around especially since 2021.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thank you. Sometimes my stream of consciousness escapes. : )

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Dr Linda's avatar

Same

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LMWC's avatar

😁

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

I think I’ve read all of his books and I’m not aware of any terrible mistakes being made. I too enjoy a quick wit, sarcasm and colorful vocabulary

… which is why I’m a paid subscriber to Jeff’s C&C

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BelleTower's avatar

“Twain’s End” will put a stop to your admiration. It turns out Twain was an abusive self centered person … I grew up idolizing him but no more

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I did not and will never know the man. I have his writings to admire. I don't idolize anyone. Rookie mistake.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

You can tell the difference between admiration and idoltry, by what happens to a person when the person they admire is criticized.

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Jeff S's avatar

Dig deep enough, it seems none of us is all that good.

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M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

Turns out that “all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God” and “the wages of sin is death but the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ our Lord.” Roman’s 3:23 and 6:23.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yes. Thanks for the reminder.

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Mike's avatar

Fear not the wages of a well lived life are the very same!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Hell, where should I start?😋

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Jeff S's avatar

Don't look back!

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I don't dwell there. It does serve as a marvelous moral compass, however. Just a quick glance from time to time.

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alongername's avatar

I'm trying to make up for those not so good things in the past ...🙃

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Jeff S's avatar

Don't look back!

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alongername's avatar

Price of bitcoin in 2015............

Aug 1, 2015 284.69

IFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFIFI

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MaryAnn's avatar

Atonement (at one ment) reunites us with Jesus who is, and always has been, waiting with open arms. ❤️ Ask God for forgiveness and “sin no more”. Like the Jews fleeing Egypt, we have all wandered. Some longer than others. God is there, no matter how long we wander. Just stop wandering.

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

There you go, Dr. Linda!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

As it turns out? Who turned it out?

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Jayne Doe's avatar

Q. What is a MD/PhD?

A. Someone who knows more and more about less and less. : )

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Lori's avatar

Boom shakalaka Boom.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I like that thought very much; Mark Twain and Jeff Childers having after dinner discussions over cigars and brandy.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

"She's a fine girl."

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AM Schimberg's avatar

Lol

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Lori's avatar

I asked my dermatologist the other day does he read about or investigate any alternative therapies. He looked at me with a blank stare and said, "No, I only follow the standard of care.". So my retort was you are a white coated serf to the AMA and dermatology board. Time for more pushback to these so called pillars of medicine and science.

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Astragale's avatar

All about $$$.

Sun cream for example. Totally unnatural to slather toxic chemicals onto our skin then roast it under the hot sun.

A bit of warm sun is GOOD for us (we, here, know.)

Otherwise, stay in the shade or wear a hat & light clothes that give protection.

But no - people are persuaded to buy TOXIC “sunscreen”, apply & reapply…

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Being of "good Irish/English" stock, I go from white to red in about 5 minutes. I used to slather on LOTS of sunscreen when I went out into the sun. Now that I'm older and wiser (maybe), I'm starting to believe that we are told to use SS so we won't get the necessary vitamin D and to keep us perpetually sick. I don't use SS anymore.

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Lori's avatar

Don't use sunscreen as that is a joke. Agree with you completely.

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Rob's avatar

The AMA is a Guild & Guilds are there to keep a profession paying well. In time a guild my take on other tasks but at it base it's job is to keep the profits up.

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Lori's avatar

2 words for their guilds and they ain't Happy Birthday!

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William Foster's avatar

Great comment!

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Graham's avatar

Very excellent response. I am also a big fan of both.

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Jacqueline's avatar

Twain had such a way with words… I am currently reading “the Innocents Abroad”. He saw human nature.

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Justin's avatar

Good Lord, Mr. Childers is back in FINE form today! It's late (and no, I'm not partying with any perverted masochists, I'm actually developing plans to help volunteer teach auto mechanics to post-foster program kids with the SLOWWWW assistance of chatGPT.)

Jeff's quote saying "the government’s hybrid health-military-espionage biomedical skunkworks, a mutant love baby between DARPA and anthrax vaccines" led me to ask chatGPT to draw it up from that quote, and it gave me this drawing: https://chatgpt.com/s/m_689462fec9188191a55f4682601d9ffa

It's almost worth putting on a bad for their uniforms!

It's nearing 2AM, and I kept finding one glorious quote after another... and I'm too tired to capitalize on them! Trust me, I was grinning ear-to-ear! Thank you Jeff, for providing me with sweet dreams while my eyes are still (barely) open.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

This is fascinating! Mark Twain was a wise man!

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Many are the afflictions of the righteous,

But the LORD delivers him out of them all.

He keeps all his bones,

Not one of them is broken.

Evil shall slay the wicked,

And those who hate the righteous will be condemned.

The LORD redeems the soul of His servants,

And none of those who take refuge in Him will be condemned.

— Psalm 34:19-22 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

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LMWC's avatar
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“Yet I am confident that I will see the Lord’s goodness while I am here in the land of the living.” Psalm 27:13.

My morning reading.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

As my time here in this world is getting short, I hope that what I’m witnessing happening now is the Lord‘s goodness.

… like Hezekiah, I’m asking to live longer in order to enjoy it

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Lori's avatar

May all of us live long to see all this evil undone thus shortening Satan's stranglehold on the world.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Jesus, in Christ ALONE is my refuge. 🙌🏼

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Debi Lutman's avatar

Amen

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Jan Hollerbach's avatar

Time for old Klaus and his wife to own nothing and be happy.

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Dana Hope's avatar

And eat ze bugs. 🐜

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Lori's avatar

and let them take yuval harari, that evil thing with them as they go underground never to be heard from again hopefully.

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Mary H.'s avatar

🎯

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Dr Linda's avatar

😂

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SB's avatar

Excellent! Please let it be so!

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shayne's avatar

From your lips to God's ears 😉

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Shari Ray's avatar

Preach

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R Kivenas's avatar

Only thing better would be tied to Hillary and Russia-gate.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Please

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Dr Linda's avatar

As someone who studied and utilized molecular biology, it has never made any sense to me why anyone thought mRNA injections could possibly be anything but a disaster.

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Valerie's avatar

I’m so grateful I ran across Geert Vanden Bossche on the Dark Horse podcast back in the summer of 2020 discussing not only that the number one rule in vaccinology is that you never vaccinate in the middle of a pandemic, but just how inappropriate the mRNA technology was for this application. I think that’s where I also heard about PCR cycles and how they were being abused to increase the covid infection rate . I knew something was up well before that, but that podcast was my radicalization point and I’ve never looked back.

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LMWC's avatar

I will never forget masked high school athletes who were tested daily and if positive sent home for two weeks, even if they had no symptoms. How fast many have forgotten.

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Yes, the concept of "asymptomatic disease" makes no sense. You feel fine, you are fine but this test here says you're sick. Like Wiz of Oz, don't look behind the curtain. Just trust us, there's a brilliant wizard there.

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Peter Schott's avatar

It's absolutely _insane_ how that nonsense was adopted by the overly-educated. It makes no sense and wouldn't make sense in any other case, but ... Covid!!!! ... and logic goes out the window. So many people who said "yeah, but you _might_ be sick and not know it". Strangely, that seems to be the main effect of most of the shots - to reduce/mask symptoms so you're actually carrying a disease and spreading it even though you feel fine. (which is way different from not being sick at all)

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I believe it was ALWAYS about the soft kill. I personally know so many who are sick or have died in the last 4 years.

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Janet's avatar

My vax loving sister is getting a stent or 2 inserted today. My other sister is not well either.

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JBell's avatar

My 6X vaxed SIL has been diagnosed with aggressive breast cancer.

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Lori's avatar

:{.

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Susan Clack's avatar

Prayers up for your sis. My mom just has been diagnosed with BC as well, at 91. 😢

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SD Scott's avatar

Blood stasis.

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Nelson Pewitt's avatar

Totally agree. The people doing the best have been vaccinated least.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I think he was also the one that pointed out the danger of 'leaky' vaccines producing escape mutants that could make the virus more virulent, used the example of Marek's disease in chickens.

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Valerie's avatar

Yes he was!

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Sherry Fariss's avatar

Yes! I watched that too, and his analysis was one of the bedrocks of my vaccine hesitancy and eventual outright rejection.

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Carrie's avatar

What started me seriously down the vaccine hesitancy road in 2020 was early in the pandemic when travel and public exercise became a sin…#stayhomestaysafe, that was an obvious sign we were being lied to. I was already annoyed whenever I heard a story of a hospital employed nurse being forced to get a flu shot, even though I never questioned vaccines as a whole (I’m a doctor of course, and vaccines are miracles - sarcasm intended here). Now I’m not even convinced smallpox and polio vaccines were even necessary, and if I had a baby right now, she would not receive a single vaccine.

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Lori's avatar

Read Turtles All The Way Down and you will find out what a scam jabs are and the harms they have caused.

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Carrie's avatar

Started reading it a while ago (multiple books going currently)… first chapter I think, and I’m 100% convinced children should not be vaccinated. I encourage my young relatives not to vaccinate their babies. There is so much pressure on them to vaccinate.

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Nothingtoseehere's avatar

My daughter cannot find a pediatrician who will agree to even slow down the vaccine schedule. They say she will have to leave their practice if she doesn't follow it. It is driving me crazy because my little granddaughter is the love of my life.

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Lori's avatar

NO ONE should ever be jabbed. Glad you are reading it.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Lori and Carrie, Dr Peter McCullough's new book, just cae out, goes into the same material as Turtles (and Dissolving Illusions)and in much more detail.

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Lori's avatar

Thx for the heads up John! Dr. McCullough is a hero and I will be happy to purchase his book!

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

my son is in OR Tech and gets a flu shot every year, followed by a devastating bout of the flu within the next two weeks

… which spends the next two weeks trying to kill him

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I "liked" but I really hate this! All four of my grandparents would get the flu shot every year because their doctors told them to get it. EVERY SINGLE YEAR they would have a nasty bout of the flu!!! I observed this from my high school years until they each passed away - still wonder if the bout of pneumonia from which one grandpa died was caused by a flu or pneumonia shot. Due to my observations of the grandparents, I have never had a flu shot. Due to my observations re: flu shots, I did not take any covid jabs. Due to my observations of the whole covid hysteria, I will never take ANY shots, and I have completely 180-ed my thinking on "modern" medicine.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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SD Scott's avatar

Flu shot for old people is because Congress spent all of the social security money.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

You’re saying that it was “due to my observations” reminded me of when Jesus said “those that have eyes to see, but will not see”

… apparently your eyes are very good at seeing what time it is

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SD Scott's avatar

My sister, an RN, was also forced to get flu shots (or flu mist). She found that a coffee enema immediately after the vaccine would avert illness.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Sounds like a gruesome remedy SD, I’m glad it was effective.

… Just another example of how our masters are up our asses

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Susan Clack's avatar

You'd think he'd figure it out after awhile...but, no. 😒

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Sadly, I’ve given up thinking that he would see the correlation. I’ve also given up trying to get him to watch other news networks along with CNN and MSNBC. He refuses to watch Fox news

… And he will not read C&C (l still call him ‘son’ ‘tho)

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SD Scott's avatar

The death of Jeff Bradstreet in June of 2015 is what woke me up. After that, the work of Andrew Moulden and so many others came to my attention. (Tenpenny, Humphries, Horowitz, etc). I’d had no idea that so many courageous practitioners & whistleblowers were waging this war & sometimes losing their lives.

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Valerie's avatar

What about shingles? That disease is terrible, I’ve had a few clients get it. In that vaccine worth it?

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SD Scott's avatar

Sucharat Bhakdi was likewise warning of mRNA jab dangers.

The vehemence of the nonsense is what made me disbelieve it. The violent closed-mindedness of the deluded was disturbing!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Here's a new one on me... Don't get vaccinated for ANYTHING for at least one month after FINISHING Prednisone!

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Just don’t get vaxxed for anything— ever. And for heaven’s sake, tell your daughters not to allow the

immediately-after-birth SYNTHETIC vitamin K shot, and certainly not the HepB shot for your newborns. SO

much damage, the minute they arrive.

And STOP vaxxing your pets and livestock.

NO one is born pharmaceutically deficient. We are fearfully and wonderfully made.

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Lori's avatar

this is for pet parents. Merck is now marketing a new saRNA (self amplifying) Rabies vax called Novibac NXT. No long term studies. It is also in the process of marketing the same for feline leukemia and dog flu. Ask to see the label before giving this to your pet. Best to get the "old" vaccine that is the “thimerosal free” version. Hope this helps anyone who has pets. For more info on this, please read Vital Animal News by Dr. Will Falconer dated August 3rd.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

LOVE DR. WILL FALCONER.

I say, get zero vaccines for anything. I now see a holistic vet who will pull titers on pets and keep the paperwork that says they are HIGH for rabies (for example) titers, which you can then show anyone bitten by your dog or what have you.

My dog titered very high with rabies and would’ve been off the charts had we revaxxed her on time. It’s more costly

than just vaxxing but boy, will our pets live longer and be so

much less likely to have cancer.

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Lori's avatar
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Holistic vets rock, the only way to go. Bye Bye allopathic vets. My rabies titer has been holding for 20 years so that goes to show you the over vax process in vet med.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Yes the cancer!!

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Lori's avatar

Steroids are bad news, especially with chronic use as they cause immunosuppression and other horrible side effects, then take a jab which does the same and wonder where turbo cancers come from.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

YES!

And say the body is told

to mount a defense against polio. So, HOW does the body know NOT to mount a defense against the other ingredients in the same vial?

•alcohol

•formaldehyde

•polysorbates (which breach the Blood Brain Barrier and usher in the

rest of these toxins with it?)

•latex (from the lid of the vial)

•fetal bovine serum

•monkey kidney cells (pet dander allergies, anyone?)

•egg protein cells

•peanut protein cells (random peanut allergies, anyone? With NO other ancestors allergic to peanuts?)

•aborted fetal tissue cell fragments (REALLY!) so… body fragments of BOTH sexes of fetuses! (AUTOIMMUNE issues, anyone? As in, the BODY is attacking the BODY?)

Hmmmmm…

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Lori's avatar

Damn straight!

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

FYI; the PCR “test” was not a test, it was a laboratory procedure that increased the available amount of a substance so that it was easier to see what was in there. It was invented in 1983 by.Kary Mullis, who received a Nobel prize for the achievement. There are YouTube videos of Kary explaining that it was not a test and shouldn’t be used as such stating that “ with PCR you could find anything in everybody” however, that didn’t mean you were sick or had a disease.

… so actually, the only correct result of the PCR procedure should be a ‘positive’

… there are also videos of Kary giving his opinion of Fauci

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David Eldon Wood's avatar

Did you notice that Kary Mullis conveniently passed at the inception of the c*vid vaccine rollout?

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Yes I did David, he conveniently passed away in August ‘19, preceding the meeting in October ‘19 where a possible pandemic was discussed and how to handle the communication and the media. Incidentally, that was the main thrust of the meeting. Very little was discussed about how to handle a virus..

…A virus that suspiciously appeared only a few months after the meeting

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MaryAnn's avatar

A virus that had already been deployed.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

And besides all that the medical journals claimed that coronavirus was responsible for, get this, the COMMON cold

… which explains the positive PCI results

… ironically, the only false PCR results were the ‘negative’ ones

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

He was spot on.

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Valarie, me too. Geert opened mye eyes.

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CHop's avatar

Exactly! Which is why I question Dr. Malone's intentions.

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SD Scott's avatar

Malone has said that the mRNA platform was never shown to be safe, since it primed the immune system and lead to cytokine storm & death.

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Politico Phil's avatar

When you real motives are political, nothing has to make sense.

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SD Scott's avatar

Or if your real motives are genocide, then it does make sense.

Jovan Pulitzer got AI to explain it:

https://rumble.com/v6wqxe6-how-they-did-it-how-to-facilitate-the-depopulation-of-the-world-in-secret-o.html?e9s=src_v1_cmd%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right?! What can be more 'political' than war or genocide?

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Susan Seas's avatar

I agree and I have never studied anything scientific or medical. 🙃 Just listening to the “experts” I thought this literally does not sound in anyway like a good thing!!

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Dr Linda's avatar

I applaud your common sense.

My comment wasn’t to diminish anyone’s choice.

When this whole disaster started, I said “no” this isn’t correct. So many folks were behind it then I thought maybe I am wrong. So I checked. I wasn’t wrong, mRNA injections are/were a dangerous idea.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Having been involved in the patent industry saved me.

I read the patents and was extremely frightened.

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SD Scott's avatar

Doctors of conscience have been warning about the medical fraud for a very long time. It’s appalling to realize we have lived through a century or two of genocidal shenanigans on a global scale.

Ever since - thanks to Darwin - the church decided maybe the Bible was only myths - we lost the ability to combat deception.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Brilliant! I am glad to know there are many ways to see the problems.

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BelleTower's avatar

I literally sensed it. I had a terrible premonition before there ever was talk of a vaccine I was somehow aware there would be one and that it would be dreadful. I sounded insane but it turned out I had been gifted a heavy dose of discernment. As i followed the rollout and researched the history of mRNA and the so called “studies” I had trouble realizing the extent of what was happening. All of the things I sensed would be true and happen were and did! I sounded the alarm to friends and family but only received scorn and eventually grew quiet. I kept thinking “like pearls to the swine like pearls to the swine” 😂

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

All vaxxines are horrid but mrna are

the

worst.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

Perhaps it is a little known that the ‘m’ in mRNA stands for messenger, which in the Bible is another word for angel, which is another word for spirit

… a word that applies to demons as well

… and the RNA aspect of it should’ve been a definite NO for everybody

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Lori's avatar

If for no other reason that once injected, you can't get it out. At least with oral or transdermal, you can be made to vomit, activated charcoal or wash off something on the skin. Where have critical thinking skills gone?

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Dr Linda's avatar

There is no substantial data that shows how long Spike Protein will continue to be produced but it doesn’t look good. Regardless, the time it is produced is creating damage and death. As we all know

I had hope for DNA repair but it may be ineffective.

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Lori's avatar

I saw data it sits in the body for at least 746 days.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I understand that, I'm not either and I feel terrible for the people that were fear mongered, I only meant that from their own mouths it sounded sus.

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SteelJ's avatar

One simple rule in force pre-pandemic was all anybody needed - don't take medicine you don't need. It was clear most were at virtually zero risk so didn't need it. Falling for the guilt card of protecting granny was an inexcusable level of gullibility. Personally, I think the excuse that one isn't well versed in health topics is a poor copout because WTF is more important than figuring out what's good for you and what's bad for you? But regardless, you didn't have to know all the ferrets died, and they'd been trying to make a safe and useful MRNA product for many years and failed every time, and Moderna had never been able to create a single marketable product, all of which one should have known, to see through the BS.

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SD Scott's avatar

Govt cutout. No marketable product.

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Tom's avatar

Something occurred to me recently:

"Scientists" marvel at how proteins rapidly fold themselves without error. They can't model this.

Yet, they are happy to "engineer" new proteins. Have they considered that their designer protein is not already the norm because it will be prone to misfolding? That the creation of a prion possibly integrated into the genome would be likely to destroy an entire species?

A protein is worse than useless if that protein "works better" 99% of the time and then 1% of the time fails catastrophically to the ending of a species.

In my worldview, these proteins are not in use by the Creator. But even in their own worldview, these proteins were not selected for, for good reason. This is the hubris of pretending there are no unknown unknowns.

Technocracy is built upon the desire to feed all flesh from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil. They want ownership credit of the Good, while pretending they are not forcing Evil on the world.

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BelleTower's avatar

Yes and prions, the catalyst for some frightening diseases, all fatal, are proteins that SPONTANEOUSLY “ misfold” and even spread the behavior to nearby proteins in a contagion type of behavior. It boggles the mind that this isn’t fully understood before injecting weird made up proteins into every man woman child on the planet. Outstanding, science. Great job. I will NEVER follow you

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Jeff S's avatar

The only good needles are used for sewing.

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Dr Linda's avatar

And knitting

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

I’m not a scientist, but it has always struck me as the height of arrogance to think that any human endeavor involved in introducing an genetic instruction set or foreign materials into a highly complex system — whether it be a human or any other life form, or climate/weather systems — is asking for trouble. The arrogance of thinking you can project with any degree of accuracy what the response might be is breathtaking.

Any complex system has literally millions of variables, the overwhelming majority of which we cannot even identify, let alone project how they will respond when an outside instruction is introduced.

Heck, I don’t even eat GMO food if I can help it (though sadly, we lost that battle for GMO labeling in our food).

The last thing I would do would be to accept an injection of mRNA instructions into my body.

I don’t speak out much on this issue, but I know there are two things you never should put into your body: Liponanoparticles (LPNP) and mRNA.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I agree. I always asked questions as a kid. I was/am fascinated by nature and life. I am appalled by the folks that think they can alter the weather or biological processes with no consequences.

I don’t eat GMO foods either. I work hard at not allowing my animals to receive those things as well.

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Valerie's avatar

Wait! I follow the substack called The Circadian Classroom, it’s written by a doctor who’s an expert in circadian biology. He posted an article a couple of weeks ago about how doctors are trying to create a fake melanin. Talk about hubris! His point was that melanin is far more than simply a molecule that gives your skin color, it’s a highly complex process that signals different things to different parts of your body. I love reading stuff like that. #I’mANerd

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MaryAnn's avatar

In reality, everything we eat—fresh from the garden or otherwise, is Genetically Modified from the original.

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AM Schimberg's avatar

I never finished college and studied interior design while I was there, but I knew from the moment it's mechanisms were described that it was going to me an unmitigated disaster with no off switch. I told my husband that I might feel comfortable receiving such a shot after observing consequences for 7-10 years. My answer now would be a big hell no, and will only become more emphatic by the time 10 years are up!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Well said and well done

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I sound like a broken record on this, but this was all spelled out in their SEC filings. Not exactly brain science to simply look this up.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I hear you. I was just sharing my journey. You aren’t a broken record.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

I had other data points too, and like everyone else, it took me a little time to reach my own conclusions.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Indeed...currently this system is only concerned with billing and more billing.

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Dr Linda's avatar

And billing incorrect

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Lori's avatar

and for hideous profits.

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SD Scott's avatar

This fraud system rewards useless expense & creates sickness.

If people paid in cash & voted with their feet on which practitioners to frequent, useless medical hoaxes would simply die out.

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Peter Schott's avatar

The _promise_ of them ... it's much greater than the reality, but even Malone still holds out hope that if we can solve all of the problems, they could be helpful for very targeted use cases. The hype is real - and not just for the profit potential.

As long as we ignore that pesky "these have never played out well in actual usage" fact, they look great. :-/

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Lori's avatar

Exactly.

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R Kivenas's avatar

That’s 100% by design? Rhetorical question.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Maybe

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Coalburned's avatar

Because the rest of us didn't have that kind of knowledge. That's why we need the utmost integrity in the leadership positions of the agencies assigned to protect us from the bad guys, of which there are many.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

I was a lowly technician in the genetics lab who argued with the august young PhDs about this dangerous, untested technology. I read many journal articles and came to the conclusion that I would not get the jabs and no nasal swabs for me. For this, I was called an ignorant Luddite, and shunned on social media after I retired and got the heck out of there. But I am happy to still be healthy and hope they are too, poor dears.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Don’t call yourself a lowly lab tech. I’m guessing that’s how you were treated. Labs don’t run without techs. Anyway, I am sorry for those folks as well.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Thank you, Dr Linda. Many of them would not have gotten their PhDs without my taking over and running their experiments. I figure I performed about five thesis experiments. They got to write them up.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Wow! I never had a lab technician do one of my experiments. That was absolutely forbidden. It was 4 decades ago. I guess things changed. : (

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Michael Miller's avatar

If its pipeline of mRNA products is so promising, why should taxpayers fund the research? Great question Jeff. :)

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Lobbyists need to be investigated

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Dr Linda's avatar

I wish they were abolished

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Imagine, no k street. Imagine, politicians having to actually listen to their constituents instead of their owners.

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Dr Linda's avatar

We can dream? Hope? Pray?

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Indeed!!!!

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c Anderson's avatar

Lobbying is organized Free Speech. Yes, it is about money, but what isn’t about money when it comes to politics?

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Me too

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SD Scott's avatar

Along with their congressional puppets

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yep, AIPAC first... it is a cancer on America... and TRUMP has caught the disease... as have most of congress!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

So promising their stock (ticker MRNA) went from a high of $450 to today's $26.

Bancel, Moderna's CEO, is an evil POS... likely cashed out many millions, if not a billion at the top... he KNOWS his products are POISON, and that they would cause massive deaths.

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Primum non nocere's avatar

Cancelling ontracts does not neuter the influence of BARDA. Immediately rescinding the PREP Act emergency extension is where the rubber meets the road. Nothing else matters.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Go get the PREP Act Jeff Childers! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

And check out PEPFAR as well. Fauci spent more than 40 years and many billions of dollars trying to find a way for men not to suffer the consequence of AIDS. There are many more men associated with PEPFAR that are supposedly trying to accomplish the same task. Many, many billions of dollars, our tax dollars, being funneled to these guys to find a cure for something that may be mitigated simply by abstinence.

… or maybe not, I might be wrong

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I did see in a subheadline somewhere that was next on Kennedy's list. We shall see if the sacred cow falls. I'm also waiting to see Sasha Latypova's take on all of this as she has called out Kennedy/HHS/FDA stuff in the past when they have not been entirely honest in what they report out to the public.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

We keep being told we need to be patient, that RFK can only do so much. I sure am glad Sasha and others are out there banging the drum. Meanwhile, babies and children continue to be poisoned and killed.

I’m setting my hopes on 2028. Maybe in the final 6 months of this administration folks like RFK and others can finally do what they should’ve done in the first 6 months.

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Primum non nocere's avatar

The Jan 1, 2030 extension specifically affords for Trump admin to sit on their hands and do nothing..

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Dr Linda's avatar

I think she posted this morning. I haven’t read it yet.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I do believe Jeff is working on that…

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I think that is coming.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Pfizer CEO in 2021: 'Our Covid-19 vaccine was 100% in preventing Covid-19 cases'

Pfizer CEO in 2022: 'I've tested positive for Covid-19 and am thankful for receiving 4 doses of the vaccine'

https://x.com/FlipCrypt/status/1951471666619621770

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GregWA's avatar

Pfizer CEO in 2026: drops dead while walking.

Not that I would wish that on anyone...just sayin it could be a future headline.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

It would only be reported here.

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Lori's avatar

I can think of a few others who deserve that headline.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

The lunacy is astounding.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

If Hitler, Mao, and Stalin had at their disposal our media, the world would be quite different.

A potent weapon it is.

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SushiRoll's avatar

That's a frightening contemplation!

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

You can't catch covid if the jab kills you

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Solid point!

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MOMinator's avatar

What do you think the chances are that he received anything other than saline?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Well we know Pfizer employees were treated to their own batch of vax.

This article tries to debunk that, but weakly at best.

https://www.aap.com.au/factcheck/no-pfizer-bosses-did-not-admit-to-giving-workers-materially-different-covid-vaccine/

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Lori's avatar

Bourla is part of the WEF so he will lie through his teeth.

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Margaret Allison's avatar

That says it all! Based Florida Man. What a CEO!!!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Pfizer's CEO is a vile, corrupt Satan-worshiping POS named Bourla...

I hope he does drop dead and soon... or better... put him in a Super-max for life with daily beatings.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

The punishments on universities are not harsh enough. Real change cannot occur without purging commissars and seizing endowments. They will continue to push DEI stealthily - here is an expose on how it’s done at RISD: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/risd-risdie-crystal-williams-dei

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Why not just nullify all tax exempt foundations. The people could use that to balance the budget.

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Juju's avatar

And how will we know they are indeed sharing the real files and not some manipulated version of the numbers to mislead everyone (aka lie more)?

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Foundations control our government. Take away their tax exempt status for every single one, not just those supporting schools.

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Lori's avatar

Send in DOGE to these so called universites and let's follow the money.

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Juju's avatar

Even better idea

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Dianna b's avatar

I too wondered about that. Will we get the real data? Or fake data, they seem to be very good at producing it.

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MnmMom's avatar

Agree you - I found myself thinking at the quote “give them the information the government is entitled to” seems like it could be creatively manipulated by them.

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Juju's avatar

Exactly. What’s their definition of what the government is entitled to? That’s pretty specific phrasing. True transparency is “we will provide all our files in order to verify we are in compliance with the law”. When you’re not in compliance you can’t say that.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

absolutely

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MaryAnn's avatar

I was trained to look for clues in college admissions application essays to figure out if the applicant was a member of an ‘under-represented’ population. Things like student associations/clubs that focus on a specific race for inclusion, or language indicating ethnicity. The applicants know how to insinuate these details into the essays to enhance their chances for admission. DEI is not dying. It is going underground.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

If your grandma said you have high cheekbones, so you must be Native American, you can put that on your Harvard application and Bob’s your uncle, get in!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Foundations were created under Wilson to avoid paying taxes. Purging that status would return power to the government.

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Crash Pile's avatar

Let’s hope that the admissions data wasn’t kept in the burn bags in the basements of the old dormitories.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Our neighbor went for a job interview at the University of Oregon earlier this year. The position was Lab Manager which he was overqualified for in the first place, the professor who was interviewing him told him ‘we are doing everything in our power to subvert Trump’ or words to that effect. I’m surprised he didn’t add, ‘you might as well march your lily white, probably conservative scum, ass out of here right now’.

I forgot to ask him if the professor was white 😂

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Coalburned's avatar

Merit. Interesting word. Universities favor certain applicants who lack it. Can't help but think the govt gives colleges and universities tax exempt status for the same reason.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Gotta fill the bottom half of those Bell curves.😖

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Lori's avatar

Yes they will and I agree, bring them to their DEI knees.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

End the unconstitutional department of education along with every federal grant for education and research; no more federally guaranteed student loans. Without federal government money the college will be free to admit whoever they want.

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Michael Miller's avatar

Jeff is a one man, New York Times wrecking crew. A self appointed auditor whose appointment is confirmed by we, readers.

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Donna in MO's avatar

And, he reads it so we don't have to!

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Jeff Johnson's avatar

Amen!

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Jalb's avatar

👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍

As a new reader of C&C, I anxiously await the arrival on SS. I read it slowly so as not to miss a syllable and sometimes reread to savor the best parts!

& I love the impact of such cogent thought!

Plus Jeff is hilarious!😆

Thanks for starting my mornings with a great read!!!

So happy I found you!

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MnmMom's avatar

Welcome, Jalb! So glad you found C&C. Jeff’s writing is worth savoring!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

DANIEL 7:9-10, 13-14

As I watched,

thrones were set in place,

and an Ancient One took his throne,

his clothing was white as snow,

and the hair of his head like pure wool;

his throne was fiery flames,

and its wheels were burning fire.

A stream of fire issued

and flowed out from his presence.

A thousand thousands served him,

and ten thousand times ten thousand stood attending him.

The court sat in judgment,

and the books were opened.

As I watched in the night visions,

I saw one like a human being

coming with the clouds of heaven.

And he came to the Ancient One

and was presented before him.

To him was given dominion

and glory and kingship,

that all peoples, nations, and languages

should serve him.

His dominion is an everlasting dominion

that shall not pass away,

and his kingship is one

that shall never be destroyed.

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Graphite's avatar

Amen 🙏 Come Lord Jesus

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Amen!

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Cynthia's avatar

Can hardly wait. Keep looking up!

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JCrutcher's avatar

Amen and Amen.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

"The American people do not concede the right of any foreign group in the United States, or government abroad, to demand a participation in our possessions, tangible or intangible, or to dictate the character of our legislation."

68th Congress, 1921

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Japan’s mRNA Bombshell: 21 Million Vaccine Records Reveal Massive Death Surge Months After Injection

A first-of-its-kind dataset from Japan shows delayed fatal adverse events are real — Masako Ganaha joins to discuss her team’s findings.

https://www.thefocalpoints.com/p/japans-mrna-bombshell-21-million

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

That should come as no surprise to us Phil, if we understood that it was never about protecting us from catching a cold

… it was about eliminating a large portion of the population (by purposely killing them, which we normally refer to as murder)

.

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Lori's avatar

Of course it did. Even with this headline, some will still get jabbed.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

They, in fact, may be the targeted group, Lori, similar to the idea that the American military will not accept anybody with an IQ below 83

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Good morning Mr President, Counselor, and C&C friends of like mind.

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Valerie's avatar

Good morning RJ! Hope it’s a great day for you.

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Jpeach's avatar

Great to read about the fall of Klaus and the WEF. Globalists are succumbing to their vices. Once Trump dismantles the DS (he’s winning the war so far), he will cutoff Globalist funding. A broke Globalist will own nothing and scream about it.

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GregWA's avatar

Agree Jpeach, great to read...but...

If by "globalist" you mean the rich and powerful, I have my doubts. None of this is going to change their views. And they have way more options than just the WEF. This is an eternal struggle that we are signed up for. Don't look at this as "Trump will dismantle this" but more "Trump is showing us how to fight."

Maybe I should buy "Art of the Deal"? :)

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Valerie's avatar

Agreed. At best, this is a decades-long fight we’re starting.

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Jeff S's avatar

Life long.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

I hope it’s longer than my life Jeff

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well yeah the deck is always stacked against the peons - has been since the beginning of time. But we have access to more information, better communication, and a lot more of us than them. The only key is we have to fight/act.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Pixar’s Bug Life comes to mind…🐜

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

You’re right about it being stacked since the beginning of time Donna. Here’s an interesting fact from the book; the Israeli people didn’t fight/act because they were afraid of the Jews (that is the leaders of Israel) and the Jews didn’t stone Jesus because they were afraid of the people, which is why they tried him at night. Throughout history, it seems, that when the people rose up in revolution, they always won.

… so I agree, fight/act is the key

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Lucy Cole's avatar

"Art of the Deal" is a good book, and an easy read. I recommend it.

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Lori's avatar

or The Art of War.

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Jpeach's avatar

Great points. The Globalists like to steal from U.S. Taxpayers to fund their agenda. They will need to seek new funding sources.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

They actually have unlimited funding sources

… all compliments of the ‘banker’

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Justin's avatar

It's great to watch the WEF self destruct, but what happens to their 'Young Global Leaders'? Hopefully they will all self destruct too, or will they just find new sources of funding?

There is probably already a replacement for the WEF being positioned to take its place.

Many of the countless fraudulent NGOs could take over that position.

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Joanne Shannon's avatar

I am still waiting for Nuremberg 2.0, but we know that ain’t happening! Last I heard, Reiner Fuellmich is still sitting in a German prison, while Klaus Schwab walks freely. Klaus is ultimately responsible for the deaths of millions, but once again, money is the focus. “Vengeance is mine” says our Lord, but I still think it would be great to see some heads on pikes. My anger is a daily struggle.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

The WEF is alive and well and being headed by the guy who used to head Nestle, and believes that water is not a right. I am not sure why Jeff imagines that removing Klaus in shame will change anything. It's basically removing one of the Hydra heads.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

The 1st complaint liberal tears will shed is that it’s unfair to charge people $15k just to come visit America 😭 😭….. but they have no problem Americans paying for the activities we do here at home. Like, we rented wave runners on the gulf a few weeks ago. Guess what? $750 deposit in case we don’t return the wave runner or it is damaged by us. 🤔 Sounds racist and unfair. How about earnest money on a house? Pay for the luxury of holding that house and if you bail for no reason you loose a crap ton of money. Only serious buyers proceed. 🤔 Sounds racist and unfair to those who can’t afford a house.

The end result - if you can’t afford it - don’t do it! I’m five decades in and it was the first time in my life that I could afford to rent a wave runner for an hour, and knew I wouldn’t skip town and head to Cuba or wreck the machine. I was in four decades before I had earnest money for a house. It’s reality! We all have to do it in one form or another. Get over it!

If you wanna come to America…GREAT! But we are gonna damned sure make sure you leave when you’re supposed to. And you get your money back if you leave. 🤦🏼‍♀️

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Carrie's avatar

And to those whining about it… we may not have had to do this if previous administrations had upheld our immigration laws and removed illegals including visa violators! Thank you for your attention to this matter!😉

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MaryAnn's avatar

Carrie—this, exactly. International student visa overstay/non-compliance is rampant and not enforced. USCBP always had bigger problems to worry about.

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Jeremiah Davidson's avatar

I’m thinking that the higher cost of traveling produces tourists that are more welcome and more appreciated in those areas of the world that depend on tourism. It seems that they would be more capable and willing to spend their money.

… not to mention the fact that it would be a whole lot less crowded

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Doesn't it cost like $20K to go on African Safari?

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Shari Ray's avatar

Plain and simple!!

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Lori's avatar

Exactly. Don't want to hear their whining. Aljazeera is making a huge deal of this, gee wonder why....PUT UP OR SHUT UP AND STAY OUT.

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Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

“They wished to create an illusion that qualified black candidates were unrepresented; not prove in hard numbers that they were actually preferencing underqualified blacks over qualified whites and asians.”

makes ya wonder if obama cruised in under such fair winds. too bad we never got to see anything relating to his academics at occidental, columbia, or harvard. i wonder why not?

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

I wonder if Columbia will be required to fork over Obama’s records with the plea deal?

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Jeff S's avatar

They will show he was the head of the Young Communists of America and the Gay Student Union.

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

I will be surprised if his name even shows up on the records.

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

Check out Susan’s newsletter. She has done deep investigations into Obama’s fraud.

https://substack.com/@9754?r=lm4tj&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=profile

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

❤️❤️❤️

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I have no doubt he benefited from racial grift in his academics.

Even his birth certificate was fake!

https://www.reuters.com/article/fact-check/obamas-fathers-passport-circulates-online-and-reignites-birther-conspiracy-idUSL1N36G278/ (Reuters /etc reference sources are are as sketchy as their 'the vax is safe' claims).

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Lori's avatar

NO DOUBT.

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SD Scott's avatar

But was that man actually his bio father?

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well,partly because he didn’t actually attend. Didn’t have to when tte deep state has your ass covered.

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Kathy's avatar

As deeply disappointed as I am by his betrayal of the American people, I do believe he’s highly intelligent and probably was an exceptional student. Obviously, intelligence is not to be confused with wisdom or integrity.

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Ahmed’s Stack of Subs's avatar

as long as there is a teleprompter and lots of help.

you see polar opposite with trump. rolls as is. negotiates on his own.

you never did/never will see that out of obama. tyranny of low expectations and high praise.

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The Real Mary Rose's avatar

Obama's not very smart, just good at acting a part.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Seems like Obama was a dummy after all.

"Trump openly questioned how Obama, who he said had been a “terrible student,” got accepted into Columbia University for undergraduate studies and then Harvard Law School.

“I heard he was a terrible student, terrible,” Trump told the Associated Press."

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Lori's avatar

Of course he did, that is a no brainer.

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