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SarahB's avatar

Wow, reading about the USCIS bribery story just hurts my head and my heart. Why are "dual citizens" ever allowed to perform these jobs for our country? And, why are naturalized US citizens allowed to do this? Seems like there should be some jobs that are only allowed to be US citizens from birth. Bizarre that a dual-citizen was ever allowed.

Sue Kelley's avatar

First, there should be no dual citizenship. You pledge allegiance to the country or you pledge it to another.

That being said,I know plenty of American citizens equally corrupt.

dancingtime's avatar

I know many dual citizenship people. I agree with your first paragraph. Regarding the second paragraph, while corruption has always been around, over the last forty years I believe that it has increased dramatically and I blame immigrants, used to it as a way of surviving in their previous country, as a large contributor to that rise. (I personally grew tired of seeing an immigrant checking me for security for boarding a plane...)

Laura Hayes's avatar

“I personally grew tired of seeing an immigrant checking me for security for boarding a plane.”

Indeed and agreed!

JasonT's avatar

The US was a Christian country and retains a bit of Christian cultural conscience. A vast number of immigrants, most especially Muslim, have no such conscience and consider us cows to be milked, and the butchered. Democrats approve of this for some demented reason.

nancy's avatar

And we as a Nation took in many people from Countries like Somalia, Venezuela where cheating is a way of life. You cannot expect them to change their culture, even if they are relocated too the US.

Which, IMHO we should not be importing them without due diligence.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Democrats and one Texas Governor, Gregg Abott.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

100% correct. You shouldn't be able to take the Oath of Office until you first renounce citizenship to another country. In the military you MUST do that, I know, I was a dual USA/German citizen having been born in Germany while my dad was stationed over there. I could not take the oath until I renounced my German citizenship (it was a no brainer.) But this requires that people do their jobs and not act criminally. The US Gov is over run with criminals.

Mystic William's avatar

A few elections ago here in Canada four of the five people running for PM were dual citizens.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Which goes a long way in demonstrating why canada is a complete sh*t-show. Allowing dual citizenship is simply a way of undermining the country at the most basic level.

MaryAnn's avatar

My grand-nephew has dual citizenship having been born in Italy while his dad was working in mental health with military personnel in Vicenza. It is more of a souvenir than anything.

RunningLogic's avatar

Some countries don't allow you to renounce your citizenship, though. But I agree on the principle.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Well, then you don't get to be an American Citizen and you don't get to have a federal job. That's how it should be.

MCN's avatar

Corruption has always been a part of governments. That’s another reason we don’t need any “outsiders” coming here to add to what is organically here.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

Is it profiling if I notice Ilhan Omar, Pramila Jayapal, Indira Talwani, Lukman Owolabi Ganiyu, and Adeniyi Akeem Somoye have something in common? Or is it an elephant in the room that any Tom, Dick, and Harry would notice?

nancy roberts's avatar

Human nature. A case AGAINST evolution!

SteelJ's avatar

I don't see where it's a case against evolution. The most corrupt rise to the top. The general population not only tolerates it, they reward it. It's always been somewhat that way, but it became worse with the decline of Christianity. That should be clear even to the non-religious. I remember when America changed from valuing goodness to worshipping celebrity, wealth, and power above all. Seemed to turn on a dime about 40 years ago. Hard to bemoan the decline of a society which has lost its moral compass.

Elizabeth Klein's avatar

When talking of allegiance to one’s country, I too do not understand how dual citizenship is allowed. Especially in government positions. Half of our senators and congressman have dual citizenship with Israel. How and Why is this allowed? The corruption of officials is astounding. The ones making the laws are the very coyotes surrounding the hen house. Does someone know where the law allowing dual citizenship is? It seems like it would not be constitutional yet exists.

Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

The honest answer is: there is no reliable, publicly verified number showing that any specific number of current U.S. senators or representatives hold dual U.S.–Israeli citizenship.

Claims that dozens—or numbers such as 40, 89, or 100—of members of Congress are dual citizens of Israel have repeatedly been debunked or found to be unsupported. One common source of confusion is the assumption that Jewish American members of Congress automatically have Israeli citizenship. They do not. Israeli citizenship is not automatically granted simply because someone is Jewish or eligible under Israel’s Law of Return.

For example, claims that Senator Chuck Schumer is an Israeli dual citizen have been specifically investigated and found false; his spokesperson stated that he is not a dual citizen.

One important complication is that members of Congress generally are not required to publicly disclose every citizenship they may hold, so there isn’t a definitive government database that allows us to produce a verified nationwide count.

So, if someone tells you that “X number of senators and congressmen are Israeli dual citizens,” I would be very cautious and ask for individual names and credible evidence of Israeli citizenship for each person.

Ruth H's avatar

I recognized the falsehood when only Israel was pointed out as dual citizenship. However, Ilmar Omar proudly supports Somalia over US and her corruption and bias should garner removal from Congress.

Matt L.'s avatar

Correct, the US Constitution currently doesn’t require Congress members or candidates to Congress to disclose duel citizenship status.

Do you support legislation that would change this?

Lisa Runquist's avatar

I seem to recall reading that there are more moslems than Jews serving in Congress - could ne wrong tho...

Mitch's avatar

"half of our senators and congressman have dual citizenships with Israel"

Really? Do you have a source for that?

Mystic William's avatar

Candace Owens, probably.

Matt L.'s avatar

The US Constitution doesn’t require disclosure of duel citizenship, so there is no source.

Do you support legislation that would require Congressional candidates to disclose duel citizenship?

Sarcastia's avatar

Holler me back when you get a reply, ok? .....

'Till then we'll just enjoy the sound of the crickets.

Matt L.'s avatar

Elizabeth, there are no known Congress members with duel citizenship with Israel. That is currently, disinformation. Duel citizenship information of US Congress members is not publicly made available, because our Constitution currently doesn’t require it. There is legislation to change this, sponsored by Thomas Massie, which I support. But I suspect it may die off now that he’s been primaried.

https://massie.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=395713

Senator Ted Cruz however, renounced his duel Canadian citizenship in 2014. That we know. Former Minnesota Congress woman, Michele Bachmann, also renounced her Swiss duel citizenship in 2012.

As for foreign born, who are now naturalized US citizen, there are 19 in US 119th Congress. 17 in the House and 2 in the Senate.

SHug's avatar

Check out this list:

Learn about foreign-born lawmakers in the federal legislature via the U.S. House Clerk Foreign-Born Document. Keep in mind, someone born at an American Base in Germany(or elsewhere) would also be a dual citizen.

chrome-extension://efaidnbmnnnibpcajpcglclefindmkaj/https://clerk.house.gov/documents/Foreign_Born.pdf

I do think it would be a wise decision to require anyone running for any American Gov office to be a citizen ONLY of the US.

Proposed Legislation: Lawmakers like Representative Thomas Massie have introduced the Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act to require federal candidates to officially disclose any foreign citizenships on their statements of candidacy.Read the official bill text for the Dual Loyalty Disclosure Act on Congress.gov.

https://www.congress.gov/bill/119th-congress/house-bill/2356

We need to tighten things up.

Legality: The U.S. Constitution requires representatives to be U.S. citizens for at least 7 years and senators for at least 9 years. It does not ban dual citizenship.

No Tracking: The federal government does not track or require lawmakers to disclose citizenship in other countries.

Bitsy54's avatar

In doing Ancestry I have come across many immigration documents from my Irish and German ancestors esters where they were required to disavow all loyalty to their former country. Is this still a citizenship requirement? I wholeheartedly agree that at the very least, NO ELECTED position can be held by a dual citizenship holder.

Leo's avatar

Elizabeth, Source of your statement?

Elizabeth Klein's avatar

My My a few of you got worked up on this one. I am sorry for the late reply but I am just not on the comment section very much. I may have shot over the mark on this one. I did come across a list posted and it is on me that I did not fact check it. So the few of you that will take pleasure in “owning” me, congrats! But the gist of my comment is that there are no rules for dual citizenship. This has to be addressed. Amazing how self serving Congress is. And since there is no such rule, do I believe there are those holding dual citizenship sitting in Congress and the Senate? You betcha!

James's avatar

Proof, please.

Cathy Carron's avatar

Totally agree - get rid of ‘dual citizenship’ - pick a team and live with it

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Tell that to the mayor of NYC.

Steve Stevens's avatar

I doubt Israel would allow that.

David Nelson's avatar

Sue, YES! Put a MEGALITH in that CHASM! If you "can't decide," you're not ready for American citizenship.

CPK (Charles Kalina)'s avatar

Problem with getting rid of dual citizenship is that citizenship is decided by the foreign government, not the individual. So the foreign government must (1) have a mechanism for terminating citizenship and (2) agree to terminate it. The United States can't unilaterally make them do that, just as they can't make us denaturalize someone.

For example, my Grandfather defected from communist Czechoslovakia, helped the FBI stop communist espionage, and later became a U.S. citizen. Of course the communists didn't want people to think this was OK. So far as they were concerned he remained a Czech citizen -- and was therefore a traitor who would be punished if he came back.

We could prohibit seeking or exercising foreign citizenship, I suppose. If we make that an explicit condition of naturalization, and they do it, then they could be denaturalized.

shayne's avatar

I'm a duel citizen, Sue. I married an American in '83. Naturalized in '93. It's simple. The US government doesn't ask a naturalized citizen to surrender their country of origin passport. Maybe at one time, they did. Five of my eight children are also duel citizens, only three were born in New Zealand, the rest born here in the US. The three born in NZ are considered Americans born abroad, and have US birth certificates, as well as NZ birth certificates. What the rules are today I don't know.

ValerieKay's avatar

Please stop typing "duel". Sorry. It's "dual".

shayne's avatar

😂😂

But you got the drift... right 😉

Skenny's avatar

At the risk of sounding biased, was "Nigerian" not a red flag? Was he a prince too?

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

This is exactly why I think the person who assigned this thief the job should face charges! At best the person is an incompetent administrator, at worst a TRAITOR! This DEI crap, feeling sorry for the immigrant and not minding the store is just a bit too obvious to be believable!

How stupid and anti-US are Government employees, that this could go on for years with everyone looking the other way! Not one person in that department thought that giving this important job to a guy with an unpronounceable name, from a known corrupt country, might be a red flag? Lol

WP William's avatar

He was doing the "job" his superiors wanted him to do...Screw the System, fleece the taxpayers, erode national security, and use "incentives" for himself and whoever else may have been getting something for looking the other way. Patriot Act, 9-11 Report, TSA, CoVid Lockdowns and Emergency Powers are all smokescreens to steal power, freedom, & wealth from CITIZENS, while purporting to improve security. A joke of a potential 5 years maximum sentencing with $250,000 penalty seems like a good tradeoff for the millions amassed. Who wouldn't take that deal?

JBell's avatar

I think they recoup the monies as well.

AJF's avatar

WP William, my thoughts exactly.

Tonee norman's avatar

My thoughts,exactly!

Valoree Dowell's avatar

“The complaint names applicants from Minneapolis; it does not yet name who told them to call Dallas.“ I can guess a few names. I used to say if u want mn to stay in the red, vote blue. Now I say if you want mn to keep bleeding, vote blue.

Kmari's avatar

He definitely was a link in the chain belonging to what should be an out of service Thomas Crapper. Flush all of his “colleagues”

Cathy Carron's avatar

I worked for Mastercard back in the 1980s and the number one country for fraud and fraudulent transactions was NIGERIA by far…

kittynana's avatar

@Skenny- HAHAHAHA! And people DID fall for those emails!!

Sarcastia's avatar

Biased.....?

I'd say it would more accurately be termed evidence of your healthy instinct for self preservation, Skenny.

refusenick's avatar

I appreciate where you're coming from but it's a bit of a blunt instrument don't you think. For example, I'm a naturalized citizen but far far more patriotic and 'America First' than almost all the born-here citizens I know.

dancingtime's avatar

It may depend on when you came here and were naturalized. I have been involved in conversations thirty years ago about people coming here for the wrong reasons. You may have been naturalized decades ago when people came for the right reasons or you may be the exception.

I stay in a household of immigrants, one of which became a citizen for the wrong reasons and who still refuses to learn english. I have to play pantomines with her to communicate. It frosts my hair regarding her situation...to quote the immigration guy who asked a series of yes and no questions, when she finally said no when the answer was yes: "If Trump were still office I would have to fail but Biden is in and they don't care, so, you have passed." She took someone's spot. And now, as someone who has never worked in this country, she gets SSI and Medicare. I know another person whose son says, regarding his mother getting SSI and Medicare, "I can afford to take care of her but, if the government wants to....who am I to refuse..." Frosts my hair. These are only two personal examples. They are here for the wrong reasons....not interested in being Americans....

kittynana's avatar

@Dancing- first: Medicare or Medicaid? Second: No more communication. She knows English. She's just pretending not to know. My former nail technician said the same thing about his coworkers; he was sick of them not even trying to learn English. He worked hard at becoming an American citizen. Third: Call the hotline and report her. She has a family member who can pay for her.

RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh those kind of people tick me off too!! The immigrants I know are all hard workers and either have green cards or have become naturalized citizens and don't take any handouts!!!

refusenick's avatar

I feel just the same way - maybe even more strongly - as do the other naturalized citizens I know (admittedly not many). The challenge is in distinguishing one from another, of course. But perhaps what you and Lisa above have decided is that if it's difficult or impossible to distinguish then the better/safer approach is to assume the worst when it comes to issues like this and see people like me as (unfortunate?) collateral damage. It may surprise you, but I actually have some sympathy with that view :-) (I'd hate to lose Harmeet and Jay, though.)

RunningLogic's avatar

I think we can just do better vetting! And have more stringent qualifications. Then we get the good people and filter out the leeches and troublemakers.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Fine, but that doesn't mean we should give you a top job in our Government! That said, the marriage for a Green card fraud is alive and well in California, so the Trump administration has a ways to go to weed out fraud. Glad they are starting with those who enable mass fraud first!

refusenick's avatar

Should that also apply, in your view, to Harmeet Dhillon and Jay Bhattacharya, for example? (Honest question)

Alice Ball's avatar

Are Dillon and Bhattacharya dual citizens or only American citizens? That makes a difference to me. I think dual citizens should not be employable by any government, not city-county-state-federal. Either you are loyal to America or your home country, not both. If you want to retain dual citizenship, work in the private sector.

SHug's avatar
Sep 8Edited

Dillion is a US citizen only. Born in India & moved to the United States as a child with her family. She is proud to be an immigrant and despises those who abuse the citizenship process.

Dr Jay Bhattacharya, 55, was born in India and is a naturalised American citizen, (US citizen only). He received his medical degree and degrees in economics from Stanford University. He is now a professor of medicine, economics, and health research policy at Stanford and director of Stanford's Center for Demography and Economics of Health and Ageing. He does not practise medicine but focuses on the economics of healthcare

FYI - Anyone who holds Indian citizenship is automatically dropped as an Indian citizen once they become a citizen of any other nation. India does NOT allow dual citizenship. But, it offers the Overseas Citizen of India, or OCI, card instead. That card gives lifetime entry, work rights, and access to some services, but not voting or government jobs.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Harmeet Dhillon wasn't handing out favors for pay. In fact, she was a prosecutor in the San Francisco's AG's office for many years, fighting crime, not conducting crime.

Jay Bhattacharya is an actual Scientist and not defrauding the citizens by selling his science to foreign operatives. I am not aware that these two hold dual citizenship, but also see no reason why they should.

Mary Mc's avatar

California is a waste of time. Until the citizens/voters fix things out there, why spend any energy?

Kim's avatar

Unless the election fraud is brought to a halt there, the citizens/voters have their hands tied behind their backs. They need to keep praying, persevering, and exposing the wrongs. That will be the only way to get their state back.

JudyC's avatar

I have to agree. I have many naturalized citizen friends in my circle and they are some of the most patriotic Americans I know. They vote in EVERY election because many of them understand what a privilege it is to have the right to vote.

RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. I think that it would help to impose a condition that if the green card holder or naturalized citizen does work for the government, if they commit fraud, they can be immediately deported and/or denaturalized.

refusenick's avatar

As a legal immigrant I can't tell you how annoying it is when the media (and others) conflate legal with illegal when it comes to immigrants. Conflating 'green card holder' with 'naturalized CITIZEN' is not far behind.

RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, I know quite a few people of both kinds (green card and naturalized) and they are not the same, and both are a far cry from any illegal aliens!!

Beckadee's avatar

Green card holders already have that condition imposed, it's just not enforced. I'm guessing too many sorry lawyers is one of the reason. Naturalized citizens have a little more wiggle room.

RunningLogic's avatar

It sure seems like it isn't enforced. I certainly remember it being a condition many years ago. It's like the condition of not being on any kind of public assistance--it was supposed to be a thing but somehow now nobody cares to enforce it. It looks like Trump is trying to at least, in spite of stupid activist judges trying to block him, though.

SteelJ's avatar

Open borders are a disaster. But around here the immigrants work harder, seem happier, and are more pleasant to deal with than the sourpuss native-born, as a general rule. By a large margin.

ValerieKay's avatar

Hmm. Well, there are a LOT of us with ancestry on the Mayflower voyage. And then further history into South Carolina. And then to Texas. Where we celebrate June-teenth because that's when the last slaves (in Texas) were freed and we were happy about that. I know a LOT about patriotism and this country and I WAS born here. I have absolutely NO opposition to people migrating here and becoming citizens.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

re: Six years. And nobody clocked him.

Lest we forget, the autopen "administration", after being put in to office by a treasonous coup d-etat, immediately sent all federal "workers" home to sit on their couches in their underwear and play with themselves. For four years. (Remember, it was the Trump Admin who first tried to find out which of the government workforce was still alive and then told them all to get back to their offices or be fired, causing a firestorm from the "workers" who were quite content in their underwear and self gratification!)

This guy's efforts are the tip of the iceberg. There was no oversight, no accountability, people were using their gov credit cards to buy stuff on Amazon all day long and have their breakfast, lunch, and dinner delivered complements the taxpayers. Add this to the Somali "Learing Center" scandals and all the fraud in CA, IL, NY, WA, OR, etc etc etc.

SadieJay's avatar

You said what I was thinking!! Not only that, but hold offices like Mayor? Or a Congresscreature? I vote NO. American citizens only. IMHO.

Ruth H's avatar

Natural born citizens only!!

Gary's avatar

Yes, I have often wondered when going through customs at our airports when it seems regular Americans are the unicorns. Most all of them look like they just got here. It makes you wonder which country you landed in, need to look at your ticket again.

Why do we have so many in government service, all of the fraud we are seeing have names we cannot pronounce.

David Roberts's avatar

I don’t what changed or when, but when I was a child there was no such thing as dual citizenship. If you became a US citizen you had to renounce any other country. If you emigrated to another country and took citizenship, you had to renounce the US.

Mystic William's avatar

Not true. The US doesn’t, or didn’t, recognize dual citizens. As far as they were concerned you are a US citizen only. My wife was born in LA. Her dad was getting a PhD from USC (I think). Her Dad was Canadian. Liz was born in Cali and moved to Canada after her father received his PhD. And then was offered a job in Victoria, BC.

We crossed the border one time and a US border guard saw on her passport her birthplace was LA. He said ‘you are American. We don’t recognize you as a Canadian. We don’t recognize dual citizenry.’

This convo happened around 1990. I am not sure if anything has changed.

RunningLogic's avatar

It is kind of more like a "don't ask don't tell" situation. It is tolerated--because our government has no control over what other governments do regarding their citizenship criteria, some of which do not allow you to renounce it and always consider you a citizen regardless of any other citizenship you might have. But you are correct, when you come into this country, you always show only your US passport because you are considered an American citizen first and foremost.

RunningLogic's avatar

There was apparently a court decision made for tolerating dual citizenship in the 70s or 80s (I think?) because some countries don't allow their citizens to renounce citizenship.

Erin Montgomery's avatar

I think he should lose his US citizenship in the judicial process. Send him back to Nigeria.

RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. He should forfeit any right to his citizenship after committing fraud like that.

Jamison's avatar

There seems to be no end to the corruption in our government. It hurts my head, too.

Tio Nico's avatar

his guy must have his citizenship revocced and sent bac to his origin. Then every case he touchd needs to be reexamined. Every one o his one day wonder cases needs to be revocced and redone.

Hawk's avatar

Why indeed are dual citizens allowed to hold positions like this? Why is dual citizenship allowed, PERIOD? And that says nothing about the abysmal oversight. Eliminate all this kind of obvious graft from decades back to present day and our debt would be trilliions less. TRILLIONS!

RunningLogic's avatar

Dual citizenship is tolerated because our government has no control over what other governments decide as far as their citizenship criteria are concerned. If those governments say their citizens are not allowed to renounce their citizenship, then we have no say over that. They would either never be able to become American citizens (which I believe was considered to be discriminatory because it was something they couldn't help) or they would be dual citizens.

Now there could probably be restrictions put on who holds these positions, I imagine. Or as I said in a previous comment, make it so that if a dual citizen commits this kind of fraud or any other egregious crime, their US citizenship can be revoked. That should be enough of an incentive to keep on the straight and narrow.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Duel citizenship... It's not, or wasn't...

MCav's avatar

DOD employees are not permitted to have dual citizenship. I think that should be the same for all employees and our Congressional representatives as well. Does Omar have dual citizenship?

RunningLogic's avatar

Pretty sure she does.

SB's avatar

There were plenty of born in the USA people working in Biden admin who would’ve done the same or worse

RunningLogic's avatar

I agree. But it does seem even more of a slap in the face when someone who is a dual national and especially if they are an immigrant. Talk about spitting in the face of the country who welcomed you!! >:(

BeBravata's avatar

One thought was they need people who speak multiple languages in these positions. An average American pretty much speaks only English.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yeah. No! This is why the USA is now the tower of babel. And it was intentional act to divide. If you can't speak the same language, you cant accomplish anything, and you certainly cannot assimilate. If you want to be an American Citizen you need to speak English. Period. Full Stop.

But instead we have regulations, forms, etc in about 90 different languages. What country would do such a thing, except one who wants to destroy itself internally.

RunningLogic's avatar

You can (and should!) have a national language and expect citizens and even green card holders to speak it, but you are still going to need people who speak other languages in customs/immigrations because not all visitors speak fluent English. The forms should be English only unless they are for short term visitors. The driving license tests being in multiple languages is completely ridiculous, for example. Immigration paperwork should also be in English only.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I disagree RL. When in Rome, speak Italian. It's ridiculous that the US government must accommodate any person who wants to come to the USA for any purpose, with their language (using my tax dollars). No, sorry, get an interpreter. Or get one of those little V2T boxes which allow people to have a two way conversation, translating both ways.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Part of the WEF/Transnational gangsters assault on this country.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Speaking and reading English is part of the citizen application.

The applicant should know how to do this.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes and our country does not prioritize language learning very much. The lame attempts at language classes in most high schools are laughable.

Lisa Runquist's avatar

Reminds me - what do you call someone who speaks 3 languages? Trilingual. What about someone who speaks 2 languages? Bilingual. And someone who speaks one language? American, of course.

dancingtime's avatar

With all the instant translating apps, why?

I once flagged down a car on a mountain road to warn the driver of conditions ahead. She spoke little English. Gave me the "one minute" sign while she retrieved her phone, and then had me tell her phone what I had said. Voila!

RunningLogic's avatar

Because they are not always reliable. For simple stuff, yes, where there is little risk if the app gets something wrong and you happen to be misunderstood. Like your warning or directions or ordering a meal, those would be fine. But you have no idea if what is translated by the app is what you were actually trying to say, or not. Even back translation doesn't always work. I would be very careful about using them for anything more complex, personally. They can be good tools but I think a lot of people believe they are infallible and trust them way too much.

dancingtime's avatar

I don't personally use them. Except in Germany, where the people are so rude and won't even try, I have found that I can basically communicate with anyone who is interested in responding. I was simply pointing out the app which the woman was relying on. If she had been older, she might not have it on her phone. But she was young. I consider it like GPS apps which have often said "you have arrived" and you are looking at trees instead of a building. Apps are a tool, not a be-all and end-all....

RunningLogic's avatar

Also, and I keep forgetting to mention this because it's so obvious but many people don't realize it--you have to be very careful about the privacy policies of some of these tools, because they are not always private and will store anything you put into them to improve their future algorithms. There are very real privacy risks with the free versions and even some of the premium ones.

Scott Baiar's avatar

Not to mention, NIGERIAN??!!! Really!!?? Look at him! C’mon people! And his name… Oh my goodness. The swamp is deep - VERY DEEP.

SimulationCommander's avatar

The scourge of DEI has reached even the smallest colleges in the country. My friend worked for a very small school on the Oregon Coast, and the school was RELENTLESS about getting Spanish-speaking students to enroll. They didn't care what happened to them after they got accepted, the mere fact these students appeared on the registry was enough to unlock those sweet federal funds the administrators desperately wanted.

It's a good example of how screwing up incentives screws up the whole system. (MAID in Canada is another perfect example.)

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

It is how they create good little Communists!

Kat's avatar

Well it certainly does the job of creating animosity among people. Anytime one group receives benefits and privileges others don’t receive due to their immutable characteristics /tracts will set up a culture of resentment and anger!!

John Galt?'s avatar

I'll bet the no-show illegal registrants generate a crap-ton of state and federal money flows to the colleges and universities. It seems no one is minding the till.

SimulationCommander's avatar

Exactly. As an interesting aside, I went looking for the DEI training sessions that the college made the staff attend. These training sessions are SUPPOSED to be public, and I could find all of them EXCEPT the DEI training sessions.

Probably just a coincidence.

John Galt?'s avatar

You obviously don't know the secret handshake.

SimulationCommander's avatar

That is so true -- and the system is designed to filter for people who DO know the secret handshake. Land acknowledgements are one such filter. If you don't say the words and do the dance, no job for you.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

I guess not....so now I'm doubting.

Rudi Schmidt's avatar

Not doubting you, just curious: what is the name of that school....I can only find community colleges in the coastal cities of Oregon.

SimulationCommander's avatar

When I said the smallest schools in the country, I meant it.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210728150108/https://oregoncoast.edu/equityinclusion/

Gotta link the internet archive page, as the page has been deleted.

Fr. Wah's avatar

Federally-funded students are often used like student athletes: exploited until their eligibility runs out.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

I lost count of how many Chinese students I had to carry on my back while editing group papers. In other words, if I wanted a good grade, I had to write, edit and research the entire paper!

MnmMom's avatar

“Group projects” are rarely truly done equally by the group.

Verve's avatar

My kids would scream when they would have a group project. They would always have to carry the load. I told them every single time- this is what socialism is.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Yes, but having to worry about basic grammar gets old fast! And then the way they never keep to the right in halls and stairwells or walk 3 abreast on the stairs, is maddening when one has a limited amount of time to move between classes! No respect for our customs, and no attempt at basic courtesy does not make attending Uni with these students appealing at all. I knew I was being used, just as all our Tech and Auto companies get used and abused.

Paula Kroll's avatar

That's socialism/communism in a nutshell.

PEL's avatar

Socialism at its finest!!

MaryAnn's avatar

Yes—a friend had a similar complaint while getting her Master of Accy at UVA. Group projects were a source of frustration as was blatant cheating (sharing answers) among the Chinese students. They also could not understand why plagiarism was cause for dismissal.

Fortunately the CPA exam was a ‘weed out’ barrier for the cheaters.

Fr. Wah's avatar

Only the children of the rich and well-connected -i.e. made guys- can afford to go overseas to study. I taught for a couple of years in the PRC, and could tell the difference between that sort and the kids who had to make their own opportunities.

RunningLogic's avatar

Not entirely true, there are scholarships and programs that allow kids from families with modest means to study abroad.

SD Scott's avatar

Same with East Indians, imo.

David Nelson's avatar

Yep, "free slaves."

SD Scott's avatar

Federal funding is the devil.

David Nelson's avatar

There's a book in that thought.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Small college former professor here and my small college mined the poor black population of Philadelphia and D.C. for students and who never graduated.

David Nelson's avatar

...and I worked for a "sub-modest" inner-city "university" that FLAT REFUSED to recruit black students in its neighborhood because it was CONVINCED they neither wanted nor could handle the educational rigor. Never even tried...

Instead, it decided to GO STRAIGHT INTO COMPETITION WITH STANFORD AND MIT FOR FEDERAL RESEARCH FUNDING! COULD have made a name for itself by figuring out how to turn out black professionals. Couldn't be bothered.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Good for your university! Their convictions regarding their own neighborhood were spot on. And that was precisely what was true about the kids we recruited from Philly and D.C.: they neither wanted nor could handle educational rigor. In response, my college offered remedial courses.

SD Scott's avatar

Stand And Deliver was all about this - for high school, and decades ago.

Title IX remedial funding caused dumbing down of HS curriculum.

Kat's avatar

I now see Bessent and Trump are suing colleges that offer in-state tuition to illegal immigrants. Again another benefit the colleges don’t offer to US students. My nephews and niece are biracial, but on their college financial assistance/grants they checked the black box. Turned out they got darn near free degrees and MBAs with their half black privilege!

RunningLogic's avatar

I know someone who is half Hispanic from a solidly middle class family who got all kinds of help even though that person was a B student, while I as a non minority but top of my class, got some scholarships but there wasn't that much difference between our opportunities. It's really infuriating.

Robert Hall's avatar

Yes, the sweet federal funds are cynically chased by the various college presidents, deans, and trustees. However, the biggest incentive for the millions upon millions of non-cynical, useful-idiot Leftists who have the real power in "our Democracy" is not money. It's virtue signaling. It's to be seen as "caring and sharing" in contrast to those selfish Right-wingers, etc.

Vicki's avatar

This Immigration officer's potential punishment doesn't seem NEARLY enough or adequate to teach a lesson. Why isn't his citizenship being revoked? Why arent supervisor's heads rolling? And why isn't every single green card he issued being revoked and the individuals booted out of our country immediately? THAT seems like just the starting point!

CaplT's avatar

If DOJ follows the money he might have been facilitating terrorists’ entry or finding terrorists …

RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, if a naturalized citizen is found guilty of this kind of crime or any other egregious crime, they should be stripped of their citizenship and deported!

SHug's avatar

Because he has to be convicted first? I sure hope that 5 years is per offense!

Once that happens, I agree to ALL of the above!

Susan Daniels's avatar

Rescind everything Ganiyu approved.

Zazzy's avatar

Yes Susan! I agree!

AM Schimberg's avatar

Deserves at least a through investigation!

David Nelson's avatar

Claw back his salary and benefits.

SHug's avatar

AND his ill gotten gains!

James Goodrich's avatar

Fear or Faith

You know the saying you learn something new everyday, sometimes we learn to accept a truth we already knew.

Everyday we have a choice to believe that either God is in control and good things are going to happen or we can live worried , negative, expecting the worst. Fear and faith have something in common, they both ask us to believe something is going to happen that we cannot see. Fear says business is slow I’m going to go under, faith says my customer will sign the contract, business will pick up. Fear says this pain in my back is the same thing my mother died of, faith says that pain is not permanent it’s only temporary. Fear says you’ve been through so much you’re never going to be happy again, faith says my best days are out in front of me.

Whatever you let in your mind is what’s going to take root. If you dwell on that fear all day you’re giving it a right to become a reality. That’s what Job said, “the thing I feared came upon me”. Fear is using your faith in the wrong direction. Faith can work in the negative just as well as it will in the positive.

I heard a story about a lady. Practically every night for years and years she thought she heard a burglar downstairs in her kitchen. She would make her husband get up at least once a week and go make sure everything was ok. One night she thought she heard some noise, honey wake up somebodies down in our kitchen. He got up so routinely like he had done a thousand times before. This time when he walked downstairs he was staring down the barrel of a gun. His eyes got so big. The burglar said don’t make a sound just give me all of your valuables. He gathered up the valuables gave them to the burglar. The burglar turned around and was about to run off, the husband said wait a minute you can’t go yet, you have to come up and meet my wife, she’s been expecting you for 30 years.

The moral of the story is don’t go through life expecting disappointments, bad breaks, disasters, that’s putting faith in the fear that allows it to become a reality.

Your mind is the target of the enemy. If he can control your mind he can control your whole life. We have to stay disciplined in our thought life. Guard your mind. Learn to see faith and not fear, God is much stronger than fear. We just have to be willing to always see the positive and block out the negative.

Happy Tuesday!!

Deb's avatar

I call it, "Don't borrow trouble. "

For those who are believers we have the choice to believe God is who He says He is, or believe the world. The choice is ours.

Eli's avatar

Thank you James. And now science has shown that matter, at the smallest levels of protons, responds to our thoughts and feelings. . . . we are creating our own reality. I heard E Stanley Jones speak in 1972 and remember his wonderful quote: "Whatever gets your attention gets you. So glance at the devil and gaze at Jesus."

Observer's avatar

energy flows where attention goes....

Karmy's avatar

Wow! I needed to read this today, James! I am not a person prone to fear or anxiety. I trust in Jesus. But last night the adversary got into my mind. My husband was driving 2 hours to a destination this morning and last night I woke up at 2 am and was fraught with anxiety about his trip. I just kept praying for his safety until I fell asleep. Not doing that again! Jesus I trust in you! Your will be done! Thank you for all my blessings!

Mpup's avatar

"Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God.

And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

Finally, brothers whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence, if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things." Philippians 4:6-8

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

YES ... the MIND is our primary God-given instrument to make our way through the world.

Christine's avatar

Excellent advice!

Zazzy's avatar

Jeremiah 29:11

Lisa Runquist's avatar

The most common admonition in the scriptures is do not fear.

Re faith, take a look at https://lisaslamp.com/if-you-have-no-faith-you-have-no-future/

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

James, the Law of Universal Attraction: what you believe, as evidenced by what your thoughts dwell on, the Universe will cooperate with you to bring it to pass.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

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Pursue peace with all men, and the sanctification without which no one will see the Lord. See to it that no one comes short of the grace of God; that no root of bitterness springing up causes trouble, and by it many be defiled;

— Hebrews 12:14-15 NAS95

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Politico Phil's avatar

"Pursue peace with all men..."

Can there be any commandment of scripture that we as a nation have failed/are failing more miserably?

John infinity N's's avatar

At both the global/national level and the personal everyday level. Too much ‘gonna take it to someone’s ass’ attitude in this country.

SHug's avatar

It says "Pursue peace with all men..." That's like "pursuing happiness" - doesn't guarantee it. Does not say to lay down and let others stomp all over you.

Politico Phil's avatar

I think you assume too much. I have not seen the USG "pursuing" peace ever. The exception was Trump 1.0 making a decent attempt at it. But Trump 2.0 is a different man.

All I've ever seen in my 75 years was the USG looking to stomp someone as soon as one war was finished. We never pursued peace. As soon as WWI/II was finished, they started another... and another... ad nauseam. There is no question Korea and Vietnam were planned before WWII was even finished. This is the world we live in. There is nothing holy or patriotic in what the USG does.

Empires do what empires have always done.

Deb's avatar

If the SAVE Act has been passed, the majority of all this election nonsense would not be happening! Thune really needs to be replaced ASAP... along with many of his cronies! House cleaning is overdue!

Mehitabel's avatar

I think he’s up for reelection in 2028. Primary that toad!!!

Penny North's avatar

My stand on racism is that if you favor someone based on race, you are UN-favoring someone else based on race.

College entrance should all be based on merit. Period.

Job hiring should be based on merit. Period.

We are all human. A great place to start.

GG's avatar

I think before one looks at race and ability, they should look at citizenship status. I really don’t think race should be considered at all. In America, the test should be: are you a citizen? Are you the most competent? Then let the chips fall where they may.

SD Scott's avatar

Some believe that race IS merit.

That’s the fallacy.

CaplT's avatar

It’s also good to support underprivileged who merit it but cannot afford it.

RunningLogic's avatar

And that category can include people of any race! It always irritates me when "minority" children of affluent families get favored status over white kids from poor families. It makes no sense. Those minority kids are not disadvantaged in any way, they have far more privilege than the poor rural or inner city white kid!

SD Scott's avatar

Perhaps this support should occur prior to college entrance exams - to get a student up to speed.

And honestly, not all should attend college. Not all should need to.

John Galt?'s avatar

The manner in which Ganiyu snagged and processed claims should produce a pattern or "fingerprint" of suspicious activity that can now be analyzed throughout the system. It should have been very easy to spot such anomalies. Now, there is no excuse. Let's hope the lessons have been learned.

Fabes55's avatar

The lack of oversight is astounding. It's almost like this "process" was planned by higher-ups in a previous administration and signed off with an autopen.

Juju's avatar

If only they made his punishment harsher, he might have found his singing voice …

MnmMom's avatar

I think they need to start with who hired and cleared him for the job. Sure seems likely there were others in on this to have gotten away with it for SIX YEARS!! Those who allowed him to work there may need to be investigated and prosecuted as well.

Could we please make this guys salary refundable to the American people???

Along with the money fraudulently taken?

PEL's avatar

There is clearly more to the story and more involved than those crooks.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

For many years, the Government has lagged behind in technology upgrades. The average 12 year-old has more computing power than many Gov't entities! This is how the fraudsters and their plants have been able to navigate freely through our Federal and State systems. Of course they had the help of insiders in Congress and the Presidency. This is why they hated DOGE!

Once Elon and the boys got to work upgrading systems, writing critical code to flush out the corrupt channels, and focused on connecting the entities to create seamless cross-referencing abilities and cyber security measures, all the fraud was trackable. Add a few crucial appointee's to unlock some info, and we begin to see what crawls out!

Vet nor's avatar

A perfect example of what AI should be analyzing.

Tom's avatar

Remember when "hanging chads" was the worst of our worries?

Christine's avatar

Seems so trivial now in comparison. I remember it well.

Roger Beal's avatar

Wow ... finally I get to see the Nigerian prince to whom I transferred $6MM a few years back ...

Roger Beal's avatar

"Under their long-standing Purcell Rule, the Supreme Court has cautioned courts against causing chaos." Could we persuade SCOTUS to issue the same caution to the Democrat Party?

Damn the torpedoes's avatar

Or a warning to all the chaos-causing federal court judges who exceed their authority every day?

Karmy's avatar

Good morning C&C! Happy Birthday to the Blessed Virgin Mary today who said yes to God and gave birth to our Saviour, Jesus Christ!

NoVA mom's avatar

Hello all! 🌻😎

Suzanne Vedder's avatar

No one has asked how Ganiyu got hired in the first place....

SD Scott's avatar

Installed, is my guess.

Veranda Vamp's avatar

A DEI hire, a plum for the various racial categories government HR tries to “target.” Bell System used these categories so to keep their lucrative government contracts. Their HR department would state: we are not hiring white males.

D&R’s Gma's avatar

Who sent them to the Nigerian prince of duality and who paid said prince and who did said prince pay for the privilege of destroying our country? Follow the money 💰 he’s just the bag man in the middle. I’d also be interested to see who approved the Nigerian Prince’s dual citizenship and what his background consisted of. Inquiring minds want to know. Many more dots to connect in this story. 💰💰💰🤷‍♀️

Penny North's avatar

The corrupt countries in Africa all operate on bribes. Where do you think he learned it?

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Exactly why we cannot employ these people in Government. They have no moral compass that any Western Nation could recognize. They are not worthy of our trust!