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James Goodrich's avatar

The best thing that could ever happen to the generation that is currently in public schools is if this woke department of education were to get out of local and public schools all together. Over the summer I went into my local high school and walked around the place a bit. Right in the main lobby is a big glass case filled with rainbows, trans info, woke info, nothing educational at all. All this Marxist woke agenda being stuffed down the throats of these pour kids. I couldn’t help but think of 8th grade kids in China taking calculus courses, getting a real class A education, while our kids are getting a headful of mind numbing nonsense. Nothing that will help them through life’s journey. The department of education is a joke and should have been abolished decades ago when Ronald Reagan was president! These communists should never again be allowed to corrupt another child let alone another generation, it’s absolute insanity!

Juju's avatar

They would never allow Christian ideology displayed like that in a case. And as far as I’m concerned trans is a choice, a lifestyle. A faith actually. You don’t get to push that on others anymore than I’m not allowed to push my faith on you. I don’t understand the hypocrisy. Tying it to “born that way and no choice” is how they get away with it. No. They weren’t. They were indoctrinated that way by glass boxes filled with the ideas in our schools.

How is teaching Christianity considered state sanctioned religion, but they can “sanction” this stuff?

Deb's avatar

Up until around the 1920's - 1930's, the Bible was taught in all public schools. And there was no issue to that! We have sure come a long way from that... and all for the wrong reasons!!!!!!

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

In 1974, I was able to have my 10th grade, public high school, English students read the Bible. Probably Luke, chaps 1,2 as I seem to remember this was in December.

George de Luna's avatar

We didn't have any school shootings then either.

Kenpowoman's avatar

For the record, the ACLU was founded in ... wait for it... 1920! A coincidence, I'm sure.

WTPuck's avatar

Since before the founding of this nation, if a family scraped up enough money for a book, which were expensive luxuries, it was generally the Bible. Generations of children were taught to read using the Bible. (Apparently some of the lessons in the Bible stuck, too.)

The older I get, the more grateful I am to my parents for sacrificing to send us to Catholic schools. For at least 30 years now, I've found that my education was superior to a lot of college graduates I've come across over that time.

Demonhype's avatar

There was absolutely issue with it, it's just that anyone who dared challenge its inherent unconstitutionality would be attacked and destroyed in every possible way by the religious zealots. Not unlike the parents being arrested in PTA meetings for opposing this woke Trans ideology. And not unlike what happens to anyone who challenges Islamic extremists in Iran.

Enforced religion in public schools was exactly as wrong as this trans/woke ideology in the schools and for the same reason. Both are an effort to bypass our override other peoples parental rights to force your own ideology on their kids. Because everyone is free to teach their own kids about religion however they choose, the only reason to impose ideology into public schools is to indoctrinate other peoples kids.

And to support one and oppose the other is hypocritical regardless of what ideology you support.

Juju's avatar

I agree to a point.

But the majority of parents in that day practiced the Christian faith. About 91% of Americans identified as Christian in both 1948 and 1950, according to Gallup polls—the earliest consistent national surveys of religious preference. Gallup’s question was: “What is your religious preference—is it Protestant, Roman Catholic, or Jewish?” In 1948 the results were 69% Protestant and 22% Catholic (91% Christian total), with 4% Jewish, about 2% “none,” and a tiny “other” category. The 1950 figures were 66% Protestant and 25% Catholic—again 91% Christian.

So it would make perfect sense that their faith was supported in the schools.

I’m not going to move to a Jewish country and start throwing a fit when I find most schools are structured around the Torah. Or move to a Muslim country and demand they stop teaching Islam in their schools because it offends me. It is up to me to either find a different school that supports my faith, or teach them myself. Those who choose to try to teach both to their kids create a difficult problem at younger ages. They need their foundations when young and not have it interfered with. When they are older they can choose for themselves.

However, as our country started to expand to have a larger percentage of other faiths represented, I agree it was the right thing to do to not impose the Christian faith onto kids from non-Christian families and remove any instruction that could interfere with what a family is choosing to teach their children. But they swung from one extreme to another.

There is nothing wrong with presenting the principals of the Bible and how God designed courts to operate, etc., as it pertains to how our laws were created and why. There is nothing wrong with a Christian nation teaching how their country was founded on the Christian faith and how. You can teach all that without trying to convert a child. If they ask searching questions to know more about the faith unrelated to the lesson, then they should be guided to discuss it with their own parents. Full stop. Let their parents retain that privilege with their own kids and don’t interfere with how their family directs them. That’s how gender confusion should have been handled. You tell the kid to discuss it with their parents and you do NOT take liberties with them in that regard, beyond teaching basic biology according to the REAL science. Period.

Demonhype's avatar

Substack is starting to cheese me off. For some reason it just seems me to the top thread comment when I click on a specific comment these days. I wonder what fresh glitch hell this is.

Demonhype's avatar

You leave our the one crucial component which is the 1A. Other countries that have long histories centered around specific religions are simply not the same. The 1A does not afford special dispensations to a religion just because a majority adhere to it-- in fact, the Founders were concerned as much with the tyranny of the majority as with the tyranny of actual individual tyrants. They intended those rights to apply to everyone including non- Christians. Which is why it is also indoctrination to push the myth that our country was “founded on Christianity ”, because it wasn't. A majority at the time were Christian but the actual founding principles were pluralism and the rights of each individual to pursue their own happiness and beliefs, including the right to say “none of the above”, which would not be the case in a “Christian founded” country, and even then atheists still had to wait until the modern day (within the last few decades) to actually be free to express themselves openly without fear of reprisal. The Founders explicitly forbade the government to give even the appearance of favoring any religion over any other.

You could say the majority of individuals was Christian, but the fact is there were plenty of pagans, atheists, and other religious traditions existing and putting their own contributions to the development of the nation. Perhaps even more influentially, since though there could be no legal repercussions, the majority itself often sought to suppress them. But in the American tradition, those intellectual and ideological pioneers kept on going in the face of it all, even when they were completely alone against the rest. And that truly is the great and uniquely American spirit, to push against walls of tradition to explore new ideas, even and especially when they aren't welcomed by the majority. You could even say more so than those who cling to tradition.

But I wouldn't say that either. I'd say everyone contributed in their own important ways and created the nation based on pluralism and freedom of thought that the Founders intended. The melting pot of ideas and ingenuity that brought so much to the world.

The 1A is the antithesis of a country founded on any particular religious view. It is a rule created by Christian majority significantly peppered with pantheists and deists who all believed that no one religious view should be given favored status including their own, the very opposite of traditional Christian values which had a long history of being not particularly tolerant of other views even within its own denominations. That they were majority Christian does not make that “founded by Christianity/ Christian values”, any more than the prevalence of pantheists and deists in the most influential of our Founders makes it “founded in atheism” (as those labels were often shields for atheists at a time when atheism was often a capital crime or at least a felony). It's just that the majority ignored this fact until they were forced to comply, and are still trying to rewrite history to make that ignoring of the 1A justified.

E Pluribus Unum. That was the actual motto given to us by our Founders. So quickly we forget in the 1950s when we changed it and then pretended that was the Founders intention the whole time.

BLKing's avatar

The trans lifestyle is a choice, but I don't look at it as a faith...more like a cult.

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

It is a mental illness, and I'm not being extravagant.

Even if someone is test-driving the lifestyle rather than being fully committed, it is a significant aberration from reality and like other delusional states, requires intervention, not acceptance.

It is not a victimless issue, and the American habit of tolerance in this case is destructive; not just of these individual lives but to society in general.

You don't tell an anorexic she's fat, and you don't agree with a paranoid schizophrenic that his parents have installed tiny cameras in his ears to monitor his every move.

And you don't let a toddler "experiment" with a screwdriver and an electrical outlet.

Rightly So's avatar

And if I may add my "two cents," Yes! Dolce, you are 100% correct! And I love the fact that your post does not dance around the issue (like so many others in today's society do) and only speaks TRUTH! Transgenderism is a MENTAL ILLNESS. Period. End of discussion. In fact, what is there even to discuss (for those shaking their libtard blue haired progressive non-critical thinking heads right now)? Seriously! How is the desire to dress up, act like and/or mutilate your body to pretend to be something that you are not, while directing others (sometimes forcefully) to accept your lie as the truth NOT mental illness???

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Usually unremarked is the issue of autogynephilia in the transgenderism movement; that is, people who are sexually aroused by dressing or acting as the opposite sex.

So your choice is significant mental delusion or a sexual perversion. What a normal and natural way for people to behave!//

Suzy Cue's avatar

Yep. Mental illness, plain and simple. Sexual deviants.

Robert Wilson's avatar

Pretty damn simple, isn't it? Parents who go along with or support this idiocy belong in jail.

Bonnie Beresford's avatar

Since these are children, transgenderism is taught to them like a fairy story.

Kids believe in ghosts and Santa Claus and tooth fairies and Easter Bunnies. Transgenderism is another magical form of reality that sounds natural to kids.

They are told that they can actually BE the other sex if they wish hard enough - and presto! The teacher steps in and says, yes of course you can be a little boy or a little girl, so pick out a name, then we 'll get some new clothes for you and we won't tell Mom and Dad! Won't that be fun?

And they step into a horror story.

These kids haven't yet learned that there is a true physical reality that can't be changed.

Encouraging transgenderism in school is a vicious, blatant betrayal of childhood innocence so vile it should result in a jail sentence at the very least.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Bonnie, You said the perfect word to describe this madness: vile. Interesting that “vile” is also an anagram for “evil”.

Suzy Cue's avatar

The children are so vulnerable. Which makes it extra-evil.

MaryAnn's avatar

Dolce: spot on. It is a choice and when the kids realize their parents/guardians stood by and let the mental illness go untreated, there will be ‘hell to pay’.

Also, I hope the NE lawsuit is successful. I will enjoy watching the Chicago Teachers Union self-immolate as the thought of ‘their money’ going to private/home schools sets in. Bring it! Inner city CPS have lost the battle—attendance and scores are abysmal. Now take the money.

Emumundo's avatar

I read an article yesterday, linked in Jeff’s News Substack, that Detroit resorted to paying high school kids $100./week to show up for school,for roughly a 10 week period. Show up to all classes for 5 days and get $100. gift card. If you come for 10 weeks you can get $1000. This reeks of desperation. The state of education is deplorable.

The Great Santini's avatar

Back when the transgender craze first started, an old high school friend and I were talking about it. We decided immediately that the advocates had ‘jumped the shark’. We also concluded that this would be an immediate problem. If this had been on offer during our high school years, we would probably have insisted on taking gym with the girls so that we could have an interesting shower experience. And our girl friends might have helped us out — as long as we recovered our senses after the first class.

WTPuck's avatar

Your last sentence highlights the problem. So few people are willing to be the adult in the room.

AJoy's avatar

Exactly!

kittynana's avatar

@Dolce- I've taken too much human biology to think of it as a choice. What the choice is is how they live with it. Many are quiet about it. Some, like some gays, love the attention and live flambouyant lifestyles for attention. Like the flambouyant gays, it actually disgusts the quiet ones because it sets them back and makes them hated as a whole.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

PURE EVIL AND A MENTAL ABERRATION!

Juju's avatar

It’s basically an ideology …. and one could say my Christian faith is ALSO an ideology. According to their arguments against Christianity being taught in schools, the state is not allowed to influence one religion over another. What’s a religion? A set of beliefs, an ideology about what is acceptable in a polite society, what is right and wrong, where does true authority and permission come from, the proper way to live a life. We are not allowed to teach our beliefs about those things but they have been given free rein to teach a different ideology in its place. And now are teaching Islam.

JasonT's avatar

Actually a mental illness.

George de Luna's avatar

It's a fetish playing out in public.

SHug's avatar

Speaking of mental illnesses - were y'all aware that many medical/mental conditions have an element of "gut microbiota" to them? I just found all this out today myself. This includes Alzheimer's, Dementia, Parkinson's, Autism, Immune diseases, and even things like psychopathy, schizophrenia and soooo many other conditions!! Seems affected people may have too many of one or more bacterium and not enough of others. Probiotics & prebiotics may be helpful.

So, I went to the NIH website and did a search and there are SOOOO MANY studies on this already!!! https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/search/? You can search whatever "______ illness & gut microbiome" and see what studies have been done.

Juju's avatar

Wow on the timing! I’m trying to help a young man wean himself off marijuana that he has been regular with for two decades. We had been successful helping our own son with that, and healed some mental health issues he had, and following the same approach that we used with him includes changing his diet.

Yesterday I was trying to explain to this man that it was necessary to begin altering his diet simultaneously as it would help the many withdrawal symptoms, his appetite, and the trigger of mental health issues. As he gradually reduces his usage, his diet would provide some protection for his body and mind.

I tried to explain what our food industry does and how the ingredients/chemicals interfere with the normal functioning of our organs as well as our minds. This young man practically lives on fast food.

He was very skeptical of what I was explaining. He couldn’t wrap his head around so many businesses harming the health of others through food. I explained most of the little guys aren’t aware themselves that they are poisoning everybody.

I just now did a search at your link, “addictions and gut biome,” and there were over 6900 studies! Found one almost immediately that I can send him a link to, and it’s rather recent (2023)

What are the chances you would post this link right when I needed it?

Demonhype's avatar

I believe it. After I mostly stopped eating fast food for nearly a year (it was a rarity for when i literally needed something in my stomach and that was the only available option, which is not common for someone who works from home), I tried some and found that McD made me sick for the night, but after going on kimchi pills for a month or so, they all made me sick for the night... but now McD made me sick for days.

Only problem was those kimchi pills are pricey, even if you only take them on work days, so i started making homemade sauerkraut and having some every day, because i heard it has more good bacteria and is crunchier and tastier than store bought and my god it is!). Which is delicious and cheap after I went to the initial expense of a fermentation crock for 40, a food scale for 20 (because i found from experience you don't want to guesstimate the salt to cabbage ratio)and a set of mason jars (price varies by jar size) it only costs some cabbage and other veggies and an evening one every few months or so to shred and prep it to ferment. My most recent batch has beets in it! I would love to explore fermenting stone fruits at some point too.

Juju's avatar

I bought everything needed to make sauerkraut. And my first batch was unbelievably delicious. I was so exited. I repeated it all the same way, but for some reason the second time I got mold on all jars. It was gross. The leaves were weighted beneath the water. I don’t understand why. I read you could scoop it off and it’s still good. I tried that with one jar, and it was still tasty, but I was too grossed out with the others. And the act of scooping it off the surface caused a lot of it to fall into the water below. Heebie jeebies even if it’s not bad for you.

I’m so sad. The whole experience was so gross and upsetting I’ve never tried again. 😆 But it was the MOST delicious sauerkraut I’ve ever eaten. 😫

Demonhype's avatar

The second time I got mold, but only on the outer rim of the fermentation crock. I dint know if it's true, but the crock I bought boats that it can't get mold inside, at least if you keep the little water seal trench filled with water. I heard you could scrape the to layer off and that that was how it worked back in the day when people made it in buckets etc but yeah, id be pretty grossed out too.

SHug's avatar

Sounds great! Please let us know how it goes fermenting the stone fruits?!

Demonhype's avatar

Sure will! If it goes a good, I probably won't shut up about it! Lol!

Demonhype's avatar

How indeed. Because it's the same thing, using public schools too bypass other peoples parental rights and push your personal views on their kids. While of course keeping your own kids safe from even hearing their views. And both are wrong.

I don't know why so many people misunderstand the concept of "neutral ground" and start trying to plant their flags.

shayne's avatar

And we are supposed to believe none of this is grooming.... They are nothing but filthy groomers of children.

The Great Santini's avatar

It’s grooming all right, grooming to become a lifelong source of money for medical treatments. What we have in ‘transgenderism’ is a group of Medicos, who are creating damaged patients that will always need their services. Then enlisting the schools as pushers. The fact that the educators agreed damns them as corrupt incompetents.

Margot Wooster's avatar

“Grooming” is too nice a word for what it really is.

shayne's avatar

True, Margot, but if I were to write what I really want to call them, I may get in trouble.

Truthseeker's avatar

Correct. Kids don’t think they’re born in the wrong body- until a creepy adult tells them that messed up idea.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

So James, all, I submit re Jeff's: "You’d think mind-numbing Ballot Envelope Standards would be the last thing liberals would worry about this month, given the Iran War, the Canada Trade War, the DSA civil war, and the outbreak of ugly transphobia among Women’s NBA league fans." All of that stuff outside of elections standards is just cover and concealment to keep us focused on anything except the real big deal, the one that really matters: manipulation of our elections. So YES, of COURSE, this is what is going to drive them no matter what. If we use every approach possible to shut of their theft of our elections, then none of the rest of this matters because the sons of bitches who put the rest of this stuff in our lives won't be in power any more. Everyone must go vote and they must not mail in unless you have no other choice. Carry your ballot in if necessary. Please go vote at your precinct on the day of the election is the best choice, which limits their ability to steal elections. Until we eliminate wide spread mail in ballot fraud, we cannot win. If YOU don't vote America, these scumbags will vote for you in blue states and counties.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

One other thing to throw in. I think Omega for America's unique ability to ferret out addresses where people CANNOT live may also be in play here. If you prevent thousands of ballots from going to addresses which are drop points for ballot fraud, you prevent the ballot fraud. This is a likely reason the thieves are really up in arms.

BTeboe's avatar

Yep people living in warehouses, bus depots, UPS and FEDEX stores, department stores, and hidden rooms at the airport, all need to be ferreted out. The dimocrats have no end to their cheating. Even the Dominion/Smartmatic vote tallying machines advertise right on the front - goes in red, comes out blue.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes. And Omega can see all of it with their proprietary quantum capabilities. This may be one of the big break-throughs we have been hoping for, until we can hopefully finally get rid of mass mail in voting.

Mary Mc's avatar

When I was a fraud investigator in the middle 80s we started lists of private mailboxes and known vacant buildings that Nigerian and Gypsy groups used. We barely had desktop computers, what we would have given to have the systems that could spit that info out for us. We'd have gladly added to the list as we found new ones. We shared with every other fraud unit from Richmond to Baltimore but it was just a drop in rhe bucket compared to what can be done now. Sigh. At least we tried. 🙂

Valoree Dowell's avatar

The envelope drama is simply that. Stall, delay, prevent, prohibit anything sane. As evidence, I offer that I received a barcoded envelope yesterday--from AARP. Wow. I guess I'm toast...

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I don't think so. IF Omega's unique capabilities are in play, it will prevent thousands of fraud ballots from being mailed out, collected by nefarious operators and voted. I heard recently that Omega was working with persons very high up in the administration.

Valoree Dowell's avatar

I don't know Omega. My point is that the negative pressure is drama from the usual leftist playbook. I'm all on board with preventing fraud--be it ballots, day care, medicaid, autism treatments... Did I mention I live in Minnesota?

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, I agree. They do everything they can to create chaos and a sense that there is nothing we can do about all of it.

Please stop and review Omega's capabilities at their website:

https://omega4america.com/

We must focus on restoring honest elections and winning them as the turning point to ending all the other insanity.

Kim's avatar

Thank you for sharing the Omega website. Impressive! They were unfamiliar to me. I knew about True the Vote.

BTeboe's avatar

Excellent. I watched a video they did for the 2020 Election in Georgia. They found all kinds of anomalies (nice way to say fraud).

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Omega is for real, it was just a matter of getting an administration in place (Trump's) who was interested in finally stopping election fraud which is stealing our country, not enabling it (obama and the autopen).

Peace's avatar

Is the administration utilizing Omega or True the Vote?

Lori's avatar

WNBA stands for Woke NBA.

Fla Mom's avatar

Your school is not that way because of the federal Department of Education. It's because of the local School Board, school principals, administrators, and teachers. Woke is taught in schools of "education," and teacher accreditation requires courses in woke. The solution is to get government, at all levels, out of education.

James Goodrich's avatar

I agree Fla. Mom, although depending on what administration is in power agendas are pushed into schools. DEI, Critical Race Theory, Trans stuff, LGBT….. and even Wokeness. This is one of the things that worries me after Trump is gone. What will this country face next? Very scary….

Lori's avatar

What will the country face next: check this out James. Sorry for the length but just skim it, you will get the gist of the danger.

And a bit off topic but more dangerous biolabs in the US right in Kansas-wonder if we should be worried about leaks when they are finally testing on the worlds most dangerous pathogens...Just saying.

Massive new animal disease lab in Kansas runs into more delays

USDA doesn’t know when facility will be able to handle the most dangerous pathogens

17 Aug 20261:30 PM ETByKate Jen Li

The U.S. Department of Agriculture still needs to fix air pressure and room seal issues before the National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility can conduct high-risk pathogen research.

In 2023, at a ribbon-cutting ceremony in Kansas, the U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) celebrated the opening of a massive new biodefense lab. The $1.25 billion National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility (NBAF) in Manhattan was designed to study pathogens that can devastate livestock and crops.

Yet 3 years later, NBAF is still unable to handle the most dangerous microbes for which it was primarily built. Scientists there appear currently limited to lower risk work, such as vaccine development with inactivated viruses and exploring better ways of doing disease surveillance. A new report from USDA’s Office of Inspector General (OIG) blames the delay on the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) for not properly designing or constructing the facility and says NBAF must address significant problems—including room seals and air pressure issues—before it’s ready to study, for example, the livestock viruses that cause foot-and-mouth disease (FMD) or African swine fever. These “select agents” require biosafety level-3 (BSL-3) facilities, with features such as negative air pressure and seamless lab surfaces.

In its response to the report, USDA states it intends to resolve the identified BSL-3 issues by spring of 2027, at an estimated cost of $78 million. But the agency concedes it does not yet have a timeline for additional repairs and upgrades needed for long-planned BSL-4 facilities, which are required to study higher risk pathogens such as the Nipah and Hendra viruses, which can kill both farm animals and people. Those labs have specialized waste-handling systems and dedicated airlines for the protective suits scientists must wear.

The 2009 decision to build NBAF in Kansas was controversial, in part because of worries that pathogens might escape into surrounding farms. The facility replaces an isolated animal disease lab on New York state’s Plum Island built in the 1950s, but NBAF will also house new research units on arthropod-borne diseases and emerging pathogens in large livestock.

NBAF would be the country’s only BSL-4 facility able to handle large animals such as cows, horses, and pigs. It would also be the only U.S. lab researching live FMD virus, with the goals of developing new diagnostics, vaccines, and therapeutics. Because Plum Island ceased research in 2025, the delays at NBAF have created a gap in FMD research programs underway in the United States since 1954. “Usually, we’re building laboratories to bring capacities that weren’t there before online,” says Gigi Gronvall, a biosafety expert at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health. “This is the first time I can think of where something’s been shut down” without a replacement ready."

[The National Bio and Agro-Defense Facility] was not appropriately configured and commissioned by [the Department of Homeland Security] to house animals for high-level biosafety and animal disease science or to receive select agent registration approval.

U.S. Department of Agriculture Office of Inspector General report

There have been a series of dates for when NBAF was expected to be fully operational; in 2020, USDA projected a December 2022 deadline. At the 2023 opening, officials predicted it would take a few more years. OIG’s report now attributes many of the lingering problems to DHS, which was originally charged with constructing NBAF. The lab “was not appropriately configured and commissioned by DHS to house animals for high-level biosafety and animal disease science or to receive select agent registration approval,” the July OIG report concludes. (DHS did not respond to a request for comment.)

In 2018, during President Donald Trump’s first administration, DHS proposed handing over operational responsibility of the facility to USDA. In February 2024, when USDA officially accepted NBAF from DHS, its officials believed the labs were ready to handle select agents, the OIG report says. But a review of NBAF by an independent contractor later that year found more than 100 roadblocks to BSL-3 and BSL-4 research, including missing animal gates and inadequate air supply continuity. Together, the problems affected hundreds of locations on NBAF’s 19-hectare campus.

USDA says it is addressing the issues. “Since the beginning of the Trump Administration, USDA has prioritized repair work at NBAF to ensure the transfer of mission from the Plum Island Animal Disease Center to NBAF can occur quickly, safely, and securely,” an agency spokesperson writes in an email to Science. Once the fixes needed for BSL-3 research are complete, NBAF can apply for “registration” by the Federal Select Agent Program.

NBAF is “essential to food security and protecting livestock against catastrophic foreign animal infectious diseases,” says Gerald Parker, a biosafety expert for Global One Health at Texas A&M University. Gronvall agrees it’s vital for NBAF to be fully operational as soon as possible. “It’s comfortable to assume, ‘it’s taken this long to build NBAF, maybe we don’t need it.’ But the truth is, we don’t know where we’d be if we weren’t working towards preparedness,” she says. “We’re going to be behind.”

Fla Mom's avatar

Are they insane?! An even more remote island than Plum Island should have been selected.

Ohmboy's avatar

Don't kid yourself. The amount of money the feds control is a strongly polluting influence. You would have to elect some pretty extraordinary locals to resist that temptation. Even though, it is technically correct, as you say, that it is locally run.

Fla Mom's avatar

Our local folks had no problem resisting, when the Biden Administration tried to tie federal funding to (was it transgender stuff?). And ours is a system highly dependent on outside funding. Schools are a political target for control because they are a concentrated population of the future brains in the country. Trying to maintain control over them by only one side is a fool's errand. Having all those kids in diverse, small educational settings would confound any attempt at control, and there'd be no teacher's unions and teacher's colleges and teacher certification, as we know them today. All the tools of control would be gone.

Ohmboy's avatar

Alas, independent of the school boards, one party has a virtual stranglehold nationwide by virtue of having captured the teaching colleges and the unions. That is the donkey party. In my math department at a junior college in Oregon, I had only on other republican out of a staff of 35. Other departments were much the same. Nationwide, 95% of teachers are Democrats. HUGE problem!

Fabes55's avatar

I mostly agree and that's why local elections matter!

But still, during the Obama and Biden administrations DoE did have their dirty hands in all kinds of stuff.

Fla Mom's avatar

Our government school system resisted, 100%.

James Goodrich's avatar

I think they still are resisting and once Trumps gone, if there is a person left in the department of education the whole system will start over again only this time it will be 1000 times worse.

Aryenis's avatar

And deal with certain very large teachers unions.

In our town in Colorado, most teachers belong to a very large national union, which seems to have socialist leadership. But teachers in some schools have chosen a different union, which seems appropriately focused on challenges to teachers, student learning, and the process of education itself.

June's avatar

FIRST disband teachers' unions

Fla Mom's avatar

Can't, but if there were not government schools, i.e., concentrated populations of our youth, and instead a thousand different models, with small groups of students and no centralized control, the unions would disappear on their own.

Steenroid's avatar

But how else are we supposed to replenish the ranks of AWFL’ and beta males if they aren’t taught early?

Roger Beal's avatar

Transsexuals, like their fellow traveller homosexuals, cannot reproduce via the God-designed method.

So they perpetuate and grow their ranks via recruiting.

Lori's avatar

And thank goodness they cannot. Transies are mentally ill and spiritually bankrupt.

Fabes55's avatar

They won't replenish because they're not reproducing.

Lynda Adams's avatar

I wouldn’t be surprised that the CCP is funding the far left Marxists in our schools.

nancy roberts's avatar

And turn the buildings into affordable housing!!!!

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Better yet, bring industry back in every way possible - As the President is doing - give them real jobs with real meaning and let them buy their own housing. It is NOT government's job to provide "affordable housing" it is the free market's job.

Valoree Dowell's avatar

Give them nothing. Let people find their own jobs, earn a living, make something productive of themselves and their families. It's called responsibility. No one was put on earth to breathe oxygen and take up space. We all have a purpose and we have the brains to do it. I just spent three weeks circulating Lake Superior. At nearly every stop there were bridges, walls, pathways, gorgeous buildings, tunnels under the road (!) to get to the waterfalls... built in the 1930s by the Civilian Conservation Corps. Over nine years something like three million young men volunteered. Yes, it was a government program, but it built strong bodies, gave unemployed young men something useful to do, and produced results THAT STILL STAND TODAY. I am in awe of that, as well as our impotence to do something similar.

Suzie's avatar

It’s your local School Board allowing for all this nonsense, in concert with the Teachers Unions, who are nothing but a Democrat money laundering machine. The current Secretary of Education, Linda McMahon, has a mandate from the Trump admin to whittle the Dept. of Ed down to the bone and then close shop. She’s working on that, but people need to get engaged locally with their own school boards who are enabling and allowing all this BS to proliferate, and start electing people to those Boards who aren’t totally insane.

And these teachers unions need to be thoroughly and utterly dismantled, root and branch, as they have little to do with actual teachers and nothing whatsoever for the actual benefit of the students. They are a criminal enterprise.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It has been insidious and started over 50 years ago - thankfully....the "tide" may be turning--we can only pray and participate in the 'tide turning' whenever possible.

Proberta's avatar

If we're going to bitch about America's educational system we need to place the blame on who actually controls America's educational system, Rockfeller. The Bloodlines. The 13 bloodlines of the Order Of The lluminati.

The Rockfeller family controls the educational system in America.

A study in the late 1800s showed that children who were deprived of right-brain activating subjects in their school curriculum, like music, art, philosophy, vocabulary, poetry, etc, were less capable of Critical Thinking (critical thinking- 'when you question an answer until you are satisfied).

By quietly removing right-brain activating subjects from our children's education, Rockfeller has produced a nation of non critical-thinking, non questioning labor.

"I don't want a nation of thinkers, I want a nation of workers." - John D. Rockfeller (R)

American children rank 29th in the World for intelligence. That was done deliberately.

Proberta's avatar

PS. If you have school-age children teach them to rhyme. Rhyming activates a smorgasbord of right-brain activity, which is what our children so desperately need.

Teach them to rhyme.

Not all the time,

Just when its fine. ;)

Valoree Dowell's avatar

"Nothing that will help them through life’s journey." That is precisely the point. And I'm afraid it's too late. The bulk of kids born in the 1990s have nothing but video games inside their brains. I've said it before, "Brave New World" laid out 2026 in 1932.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Everyone needs to find a reason to walk through these public schools and see for themselves.

Jennifer Beebe's avatar

Well said James! Totally infuriating! 🤬🤬🤬

Matt L.'s avatar

I would encourage all C&C readers to view Maya Sulkin’s ‘confessions’ interview of Sabrina Joy Stevens, 3 days ago. I pin it below.

Sabrina ‘escaped’ the ‘oppressor vs. oppressed’ world view after being deeply in it for 2 decades. And it was the redeeming power of Jesus Christ that pulled her out of the mind trap. It’s a fascinating interview, and insightful to how the cult of the Left operates, and the generational challenge we now face. In Sabrina’s case, she was infected with this mindset shortly after 9/11. And didn’t regain her independent thought completely until 2020/21.

At one point Maya explains how moderate D’s she recently interviewed felt they not only could not oppose the DSA, but needed to go along with it. Otherwise they would risk being ostracized and cut off from $. The look on Sabrina’s face when she heard this was a mix of disgust and astonishment, because that kind of hive-mind had been her personal experience as well, but for a litany of other social justice causes over the years (me-too, BLM, anti-rich, etc.)

https://youtu.be/2noJMZYEQeQ?si=OAAd8uubAN_RbXYP

John Boy West's avatar

Maybe the WaPo is finally admitting DC schools suck and anyone who can afford it, sends their kids to private school which is getting very pricey. Having lived in DC in the 70s, the only child I knew of who went to public school was Amy Carter, and she’s had a stellar career — not!!

Elaine Russky's avatar

I could only signify my "like" of this once. Disappointing.

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Companies that replace American workers with H1Bs are traitors. They are destroying the country for cheap labor and short term profit. Here are the worst offenders in Big Tech: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/the-traitorous-eight-tech-ceos-h1b

Al Gonzalez's avatar

The very companies that abuse these Visas are the same ones laying off people in the thousands via emails because our tech companies don’t want to waste time having to do face to face conversations with the unwashed masses they need to dump off the payroll. They think of themselves as Progressives but treat humans as inconvenient commodities.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

The justification for this H-1B visa should be entertaining.

"Rep. Roy on Texas State University H-1B Hiring: 'Texas State University has 140+ U.S. students earning PR degrees every year. Yet it renewed an H-1B worker for a PR job. I am demanding answers: Did the university actually try to hire Americans? If you have to import workers for a job your own graduates are trained to do, something is seriously wrong.'"

Is that wild or what?

Anthony's avatar

I'm surrounded by Indians in my job and my company isn't even on that list. I can't imagine how horrible it is elsewhere.

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Unfortunately this has been happening for a while. In the 70s with stagflation, companies started looking on how to cut cost. Then it was wages. Now it’s H1B. Soon it’s AI.

I actually have a piece on Thursday discussing this, but yes, most companies do this to save on profits: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/ai-and-unemployment-the-tech-leaders

Demonhype's avatar

I have worked with both Indian outsourced workers and AI in my job and I sure you the AI is worse. Which is ominous because the outsourcing backfired big time and forced them to start rehiring American. I dont know what they're thinking.

Steenroid's avatar

That’s the basis of donations for the UniParty.

Bard Joseph's avatar

All bought their presidential bitcoin.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Since our POTUS and Congress aren’t stopping this, that would make them traitors.

Johnny-O's avatar

The companies are the traitors who are following law and not the politicians who created the law in the first place?

Karen C. Wilkinson's avatar

You will never believe what happened to me in the great state of Florida during the Primary Elections….. not only did I have to show my photo ID (Gasp) but my signature was also checked (horrifying) and when I used my finger to sign and it didn’t match exactly, I was asked to try again with the stylus. It must have taken at least an extra 8 seconds because my name is long. What do you think my reaction was???? I thanked the man volunteering his time for the election and his careful attention to detail. Oh and I am a married woman so this was extra difficult! Now they expect us to accept the USPS barcode checked against voter registration, the nerve but TAW!

william howard's avatar

I'm sure blue states will just say - forget the post office - just use drop boxes so the fraud continues

FrankInFL's avatar

The problem with mail-in ballots is not the mailing-in, it's the mailing-out. If USPS says "barcode or no mail-out", it's checkmate in one.

ItsMeAgain's avatar

Unless they hire "Rent-A-Wacko" to deliver the ballots...on skid row and then collect. It's happened before (just ask Spencer Pratt).

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I don't know how the question of drop boxes is handled under the new rules.

One big source of fraud is mail-in ballots sent to college dorms. There may be piles of ballots left in non-secure bins, and these have been picked up filled out and dropped off by cheaters.

Bitsy54's avatar

Multi tenant buildings in San Francisco are problematic too. Mailman just throws everyone’s mail in the entry hall and residents pick out their own mail. It’s the easiest way to get out of Jury Duty, “Sorry your honor, I never received a jury duty letter” 🤣

SP's avatar

Excellent points william, FrankinFL and Skeptical. As a volunteer non-partisan election investigator in Oregon, patient 0 for mail in voting, my first question was what about the drop box problem. FrankinFL may have that answer, stop the fraud on the front end.

I have and still do advocate for returning your ballot on Election DAY. With centralized voting, doing such will cripple the system. My county depends on a steady stream of ballots arriving for a month. Easier work load, easier to schedule the temporary workers. Easier to manage equipment break down. But the astute have already picked up on the fact that tabulating ballots long before election DAY is telling everyone how many ballots are coming in and probably from which precincts. ie: turnout for races of importance.

I've debated with candidates that want early voting so their volunteers can "chase ballots', in other words contact voters they expect to vote for them and call or visit those voters. Ballot chasing has become an industry in itself. In my experience it is marginally effective and not worth the time.

Mailing ballots only to qualified voters will be a huge (Yuge?) step in the right direction. Oregon Secretary of State admitted, after being sued by Judicial watch, that Oregon had 800,000 'excess' voters on the rolls. That is potentially 800,000 ballots in the bank to be mailed out when needed.

Mail in balloting is the system the left developed, perfected and is protecting like a mama bear protecting her wandering cub. The left cannot win on ideas or principles as admitted by Michigan Dem Sen. Elissa Slotkin, saying the SAVE America Act would make it ‘hard for any Democrat in any state to win an election.’ In other words the dems need unverified voters sending in fraudulent ballots to gain and maintain power.

The left must cheat to win, and brainwash the populace that society is on their side and if your'e not then you are the problem. If you dare question an outcome you are labeled a denier, deplorable , conspiracy theorist. They also convinced conservative candidates, on both sides of the isle to lean further left to win. The left created the current system and became greedy. People woke up and began to question. Finally we have an administration backing the effort to make voting trustworthy again.

Leo's avatar

SPH - "Oregon Secretary of State admitted, after being sued by Judicial watch, that Oregon had 800,000 'excess' voters on the rolls." WOW! Do you know where I can read more about this, and when it happened?

SP's avatar
Aug 26Edited

Start your research here: https://www.judicialwatch.org/oregon-voter-rolls/ this is a similar finding JW found in Los Angelis. While Oregon settled the law suit, to date only 160,000 names have allegedly been purged, the SoS 'will work on the list 'as time allows'. JW is doing a great service but there is no follow up. County EI teams are still combing county rolls finding names that shouldn't be receiving ballots. Names = ballots. With motor voter the list is churning daily. Please remember, the voter rolls are the source the courts use to make a jury pool. I hope defense atty's keep that in mind.

Leo's avatar

SPH, Thanks. Seems crazy...

SP's avatar

Indeed, the left has been at war with the right and has full control of the election battlefield. Love him or hate him, General Trump is determined to change the course of battle. Relying on original documents that established or election system and procedures, his administration is attempting to retake Hamburger Hill. Is it too late? Maybe, since lower court Judges and district attorneys are elected by this fraudulent system.

In Oregon there is the ongoing scam where a Judge will retire before their term is up, the Governor appoints the replacement Judge which then runs as an incumbent. Judges are non-partisan, right? Seldom is there information available in voter pamphlets on these candidates, other qualified lawyers are reluctant to run against them, and lose, than have a case heard by the judge they dared to oppose. It's an incestuous system and per my observations many citizens simply won't vote the judge races.

We see the results of this nationwide right now, today. Every move DJT makes is instantly opposed in court. The recent C&C report on our legal colleges being a hot bed of indoctrination and removal of the bar association control of rating judicial candidates is important.

Man, when left to his own ideals is a wicked thing, doing what is right in his own eyes.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

Oh they will use combo pickup/drop off boxes to try to get around it. That will cause more fraud I’m sure.

Aryenis's avatar

Or simply prepare a back-up supply of fraudulently marked ballots to be delivered, as needed, to a cooperative counting site. As California seemingly does. As you point out, there is no requirement that the "mail" ballots go through the postal system at all.

At least, with such deceits, the difference between the number of "mail" ballots received through the mail and the number that avoided the mail might stir up public awareness and eventual advocacy for change.

In the meantime, once a fraudulent ballot is successfully introduced into the ballot counting system, there is no way to discount it.

william howard's avatar

perhaps poll watchers will be able to prevent any ballot envelopes that don't have postal bar code from being counted??

Aryenis's avatar

Depending on whether the state wishes to comply and eliminate fraud, or whether they embark on "resistance". Much depends on how poll workers are trained.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

I don't have much faith in blue state poll workers to obey the law.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

And how well do poll watchers in blue states do their jobs now?

william howard's avatar

will the poll watchers be able to identify and keep fraudulent ballots, ones not sent out by the post office, from being counted?

Kim's avatar

As an absentee ballot election worker for my county's primary earlier this month, myself and a Democrat verified signatures, names, addresses, date stamped, notary signature if necessary on the absentee ballot envelopes. Actually, it was amazing the accuracy of the signatures even when you couldn't half read the signature. That is another discussion! Aren't we fortunate that our Founder's signatures were legible.

Karmy's avatar

Good morning C&C.

Blessed are the merciful,

for they will be shown mercy.

Blessed are the clean of heart,

for they will see God.

Matthew 5:7-8

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Karmy, Thank you for such a heart warming message. Good morning & God bless.

Karmy's avatar

God’s blessing to you too Nikki!

Bard Joseph's avatar

Looks like the middle class is receiving 30 Shekels.

Price of a Slave: In the Old Testament book of Exodus 21:32, thirty pieces of silver is the legal price paid to a master if an ox gores and kills a slave. The leaders valued Jesus at the low price of a slave.

Within this Mesopotamian framework, the number 30 represented half of 60 (a full unit). Because it was half rather than whole, some theological commentators suggest 30 historically carried symbolic connotations of being incomplete, deficient, or falling short of full value.

From History Begins at Sumer.

Sumerian culture dates to 2400 BC

"Thirty shekels for some unknown reason is an image of contempt and disregard."

Bard Joseph's avatar

Get your 30 shekels at the imagined ballot box. Mail to your local data center.

Herodotus II's avatar

Sounds...ahhh, never mind...

Bard Joseph's avatar

LOL.

I would never.

Could seem that way.

I meant 30 pieces of silver.

Just using the Sumerian langauge from 2400 BC.

The Canaanites came later.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

And amazement came upon them all, and they began talking with one another saying, “What is this message? For with authority and power He commands the unclean spirits and they come out.”

— Luke 4:36

And He said to them, “Where is your faith?” They were fearful and amazed, saying to one another, “Who then is this, that He commands even the winds and the water, and they obey Him?”

— Luke 8:25

(NAS95)

✝️✝️✝️

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I for one, am ready for Christ to throw out all the demons on planet earth. Thank you Janice.

ValerieKay's avatar

I'm ready for Christ's return.

Roger Beal's avatar

Amen and AMEN to that. Send the spawn of the nephilim straight to the fiery pit.

Lori's avatar

I would never have imagined angels/watchers/ mating with humans. Sounds like sci-fi. Who woulda thunk it. I never knew angels had a sex drive.

Lori's avatar

And there are many.

David Roberts's avatar

What about those of us who have no school age children? Why are we being taxed? The argument of course is that the community is better and safer w educated kids, but if home schoolers won’t be taxed, neither I be.

Juju's avatar

The argument I get is that the community should support the education of all its children in the same way it funds safety through police and fire services.

I only agree to an extent. I agree if they can choose where and how to educate. The only non reading/writing/arithmetic topic that should be “required” to be adopted into any curriculum regardless public or private is the teaching of our civics, governmental organization, and constitution, sans any ideologically captured or activist perspective about it. Just as math is not racist, neither is our constitution. And just the facts. Period. This is how it was created in 1776 and why, and leave it at that. Activism needs to be excised from our schools. There’s no good reason for that unless you want to overthrow a government from within. Otherwise as a child becomes an adult they will have the factual foundation to come to their own theories and perspectives.

We have paid $196,000 of our real estate taxes (over $9,000 of the $15,000/yr we pay) over the past 20 years to a public school that was both abusing and failing our boys. In addition to that money via taxation, we had to pay for private schooling to save their education. That cost over $80,000, and it wasn’t even for college yet. (Both excelled with honors so it was the right thing to do as the public schools were pigeonholing them into either being a D student, or kept from the more challenging material they would need to excel.) We depleted my entire IRA to pay for it. And we are STILL paying close to 10k per year to this horrid school district. So we sit here without the benefits of that money growing to help our own family or our retirement all so that they can continue to indoctrinate, discriminate, and not teach other people’s kids.

Life has been extremely difficult financially for us because of all of this. Add in the costs of medical care for kids with disabilities and we were operating in the red every year so severely we couldn’t breathe. Our last graduated five years ago and we still haven’t recovered from the financial damage it caused our family.

Had we been able to apply state funds to the school of our choice instead, and not pay the public school via our taxes, our family, ALL of us, would be in a very different place right now, financially and mentally. Instead we are three years from retirement living paycheck to paycheck exactly like we were when we were first married, and lacking any of the growth an IRA would have had for me. Now it’s zero.

MCav's avatar

Your story is the story of many parents (myself included) who were forced to choose between a govt run school that was abysmal and private or homeschooling. It is a punishing system and robs families of their income. It is completely unacceptable to be forced to send your kid to a gang and drug infested, low-performing, indoctrination institution! It is criminal.

LMWC's avatar

I agree about what should be taught in schools completely. I would like to add U.S. history should be in also, but in my estimation that has become a slippery slope with socialism and wokeism being slid in by leftist school boards. Too many kids today have no idea of the history of this country past the 2016 elections. Definitely math, science, reading and writing properly. Civics and the fundamentals of our government’s workings, and how about actual life skills. My kids, now all in their forties, attended our church school in their grade school years, attended our rural public high school, and all graduated college and have good jobs, but they have fallen away from the basic principals of what our country is founded on, preferring the “I want it all right now” attitude. My grandchildren have anxiety issues and it’s “me first” too often.

Kim's avatar

As a homeschooling mom/teacher of 6 children for 30 years, a worldview is in every math word problem, every writing lesson, every literature story, every science book (evolution or intelligent design-Creator viewpoint), every history lesson (think The 1776 project or the 1619 project.) There is more to education than just limiting the curriculum. What that curriculum contains as we have seen in recent years also matters!

Marlene Swann's avatar

This is heartbreaking, I felt it really hit. God bless the kind of people who put their money where their mouth is. I can tell you and your husband were definitely schooled right. You definitely qualify as “above and beyond” sort of people. Keep going. God’s not out of this picture yet, I feel like there’s a happy ending right around the corner!

VelvetStitching's avatar

We paid the taxes that supported the public grooming/indoctrination centers and lived on one income so I could homeschool our 5 for 26 years.... Wonder how much lost income revenue that would equal?!

And school boards labeling concerned parents "domestic terrorists" for daring to question the curriculum or standards in the local schools.... Yes - this system is broken! Parents have to be their child's advocate - the "professional experts" sure are NOT!

Kim's avatar

Yes, I also homeschooled my 6 for 30 years paying property taxes to subsidize public schools while also funding our children's education. I have no regrets for homeschooling. However, having been paid for my children's share would have given them more opportunities that our finances couldn't afford.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

We are in same situation as you, to a lesser extent taxwise.

If I had it to do over again, I would not have left the kids in public schools after about 2015. They severely brainwashed our younger kid.

Demonhype's avatar

Yup. Basic education, basic skills, basic undorned facts. You want your kids taught any particular ideology, that is on you and your church or community group or culture club to do it on to do your own time. No one gets ideological access to other people's kids, no matter how "right" you think you are.

Juju's avatar

Best articulation I’ve seen. Screenshotting this so I can get good at repeating it!

Lori's avatar

Juju, are you able to move to a red state with no state taxes? Would that help?

Juju's avatar

Yes. It would help if property taxes were a LOT less too, as in the percentage of home value being drastically less than what our area does. They JUST raised them again last month. 😤 I guess $15,000 just isn’t enough to pad the cushy lives of our local politicians and school administrators. Our property taxes are over double our state tax bill, so, that’s the real kicker.

We will be moving. Just not sure where yet. And we can’t for at least another three years, so it’s going to cost another $45,000 of real estate “rent” in the meantime. At minimum.

Lori's avatar

Oh Juju, this is horrible to hear. They are robbing you in every way possible. I look forward to the day you tell all of us you are moving! That at least is something to look forward to.

Juju's avatar

It really is unfair. My husband is a laborer. No wealthy family either, just us. No assets other than our house. He works 14 hour days 6 days a week. Our last vacation just the two of us was 32 years ago. The last real vacation with our kids was 12 years ago and was a 4-day weekend only. And that was only the second one since our older two were 2 and 3 years old when we drove a camper to Disney with a friend. That’s it. Nothing else.

My husband worked too hard all his life to not be able to enjoy it more, and to basically have nothing to show for it. But a house that still has a mortgage attached to it because all our extra payments we could have made went to taxes.

I blame the greed of government and the democrats for where we are today. Especially the flooding of our country with illegals and H1B workers. The printing of money to cover their fraud. They have hurt so many of the average families in this country. We are but one of millions sitting at retirement facing nothing better than what we had at age 25.

David Roberts's avatar

I realized today (confession: I’m a RE investor and have a couple condos in different states) but if I rent out my Illinois house for 80% more than the payment, ALL the excess will go to Pritzker RE taxes!!!! I won’t make a dime.

Lori's avatar

It is deplorable. And if they get back in, it will be worse, an even worse nightmare. Hoping you can move before 3 years. You can run mad thinking about all this.

Anthony's avatar

Exactly this. Parents are responsible for their child's education. Not the community. I want a property tax refund.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Have you given ANY thought to what the charging parents for their kids' education (which is the same as not charging non-parents) would do to the birth rate in this country?

Talk about a doom loop. First, charge ONLY the parents of kids in schools for the schools. The average is $15,000 to $20,000 per kid. Few would be able to pay it. So the parents would either put their kids in private schools, homeschool for real, or "homeschool" with little real supervision.

There would be a MASSIVE increase in the number of kids that aren't getting anything resembling a real education. Mostly they would be sitting at home watching videos or playing computer games.

Next, people who are LOOKING at starting families would have to add that into their personal budget planning. You'd probably be looking at a 35% drop in planned pregnancies as a result, and more abortions.

So then the government would look at the MASSIVE drop in the birthrate, and use that to justify importing more of the third world.

All because you don't want to pay property taxes.

RunningLogic's avatar

I disagree. It doesn't have to cost that much to educate a child. The cost is hugely inflated because of all of the extras schools have, including a ridiculous number of administrators and facilities that are above and beyond what is necessary, for often very mediocre results. The number of kids not getting anything resembling a real education, even in relatively decent public schools, is already substantial, so I am not sure there would be as much of a difference as you say.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I agree on the bit about costs for schooling being too high. I am for school vouchers. In most parts of the country one can send a kid to a private school for about half the per-pupil cost of public schools.

Anthony's avatar

I am not responsible for your kids.

That said, give me my money so I can donate it how I see fit. Perhaps on education, perhaps on food. My money, my choice. Charity begins at home.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

If that were an option, then people who don't have kids should be levied double Social Security taxes, or else opt to collect a much lower Social Security check, and only be allowed to get medicare for minor medical problems. Because people who have kids are putting in the investment needed for a new generation to pay into Social Security and medicare.

On the other hand: I realize that the system is spinning down, and we're probably going to see very high inflation if not actual hyperinflation soon, to inflate away the debt.

Anthony's avatar

So you're just shifting my share as penalties to some other spot in the system. How about no. And you're totally discounting the fact that I would contribute to the next generation in other ways. Perhaps I have nieces and nephews. Perhaps I have friend whose kids need help. Perhaps I mentor and share life and professional experience.

David Roberts's avatar

I in fact have grandchildren. And they are, and will be, home schooled. And I really don’t expect them to play for the local football or basketball teams (which they could). Maybe baseball but more likely jiu jujitsu or karate.

Old Space Cadet's avatar

My, are you doom and gloom. So I guess we continue doing the same thing as we continue to get diminishing returns from government schools.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I'm for school vouchers.

Lori's avatar

Interesting take. We don't need to import third world here as they are mating like rabbits.

c morrow's avatar

When you turn 65 there is a form to fill out to ask to stop paying school taxes... I don't know anything about if it actually stops demanding the elderly to paying school taxes, just there is a form.

We homeschooled 2 boys thru 12 th grade and one son did private and homeschool as The LORD led. ( Paying school taxes the whole time) I'm thankful my grands that are of school age are being homeschooled today. I just cannot imagine the stress of the worlds ways being pushed on the shoulders of tiny 5 year olds in public schools today! So sad. 🙏🏼 For all the students and teachers that are teaching arthmatic, reading and writing! 🦋

Roger Beal's avatar

Is that form unique to your state or county? Never seen such a form here in N E GA.

c morrow's avatar

It's in Georgia... I just saw it last week...on a medicare flyer. I read it 4 times to make sure. I have to be 65 by jan 1 of the years am asking to not have to pay school taxes.ill recheck to find it...

CitizenA's avatar

I think it might be different in different states. I believe in Texas you still have to pay property tax, that is the source of school tax, however the amount freezes at age 65 and cannot increase. I may be wrong, but I think that is the case.

Lori's avatar

Unique to counties within your state. I just checked and we don't have it in my county-figures.

RunningLogic's avatar

Not in NY state either, I have family members who were retired with adult children and still paying school taxes up until the day they died.

Marlene Swann's avatar

NY has a STAR exemption - cuts the school tax in half, you apply when you’re 65. School Tax Relief. It’s not much, and now they cut you a check AFTER you pay your taxes.

RunningLogic's avatar

That is true, I had forgotten about the STAR program--but I believe it is income based, isn't it? The person I knew who used that exemption had few assets and no income except social security I think.

Marlene Swann's avatar

Household income has to be below $250,000 yr.

Lori's avatar

Thank you for this info C. I just called my country, they don't give it. Heavy sigh.

Roger Beal's avatar

Those kids' future earnings will IN THEORY pay into SSA and Medicare which we aging geezers heavily draw from. On that basis and that basis alone, folks with no school-age kids, or no kids of any age, should pay into an education fund of some sort. It's theoretically an investment in our mutual futures ... theoretically only until control of those education dollars is wrested away from progressive governments and people like Randi Weingarten.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Real school choice is corporate control. How about the choice of no school. The 13 colonies had a 100 % reading rate. Much put out by the Trotskyite publishers are lies or nonsense.

shayne's avatar

I have a 19th C Primer written for elementary children. It is intense. I doubt most adults would get past page 3.

Bard Joseph's avatar

No phonics needed.

Everyone read. The bible helped too. All practiced whole language. Publishers dumb down. Not an accident

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Parents spend HUGE amounts of time and money to raise kids. A lot of people have decided they don't want to make that investment in the future, and our birth rates have dropped below replacement rate.

So the Government decides to replace us with third worlders.

And you want make the burden on families greater, so people who NEVER PAID TO RAISE ANY KIDS will have a lower tax burden?

RunningLogic's avatar

Many European countries have all kinds of programs to address these issues (cost of having children) and yet their birth rates are still cratering. There is a lot more to the issue of birth rates than the cost of having and raising children. I think it is more of an issue that people don't want to spend time, money or effort on children because they would prefer to enjoy the pleasures of life and the freedom of not being responsible for a child.

Kim's avatar

Also, 70 million unborn children aborted!

J Boss's avatar

Came here to say this.

PapayaSF's avatar

The pandemic was a spectacular own goal by the teachers unions. Home learning via Zoom meant parents got a look at what kids were taught, and school choice got its biggest ever boost.

June's avatar

Colorado voted NO on school choice AFTER the pandemic. 😡

Peter d'Errico's avatar

“I pulled the 34-page complaint and read it before dawn, with great interest, which is the kind of thing that happens to a man who went to law school and never fully recovered.”

🤣 yup!

Mary Sholl's avatar

I'm going to go grab it now. Not only have I not recovered - I teach law school which aint what it used to be, but I try.

Steenroid's avatar

It’s a form of addiction.

Juju's avatar

Adding it to my list of addictions … I’m a details junky. 😆

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

There was a HUGE rebuke in the notes at the end:

https://supreme.justia.com/cases/federal/us/609/26a124/

"It is the breadth of these provisions—and the resulting intrusion into the Executive Branch’s internal operations—that irreparably harms the Government."

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

Interesting timing. Karen Attiah, a journalist at WaPo, who wrote disgusting remarks about white men following Charlie Kirk's death and was fired, just got reinstated to her job with back pay. The arbitrator did not find her comments disgusting. The Democracy Now folk believe it is a win for the First Amendment. Funny how that works. It only seems to be certain viewpoints that should win and not parents concerned about such viewpoints.

Robc's avatar

It fascinates me that Karen Attiah violated the WaPo's social media policies but somehow the arbitrator did not find that cause for "gross misconduct" or dismissal.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

That reminds me: DSA mega influencer Hasan Piker was caught on video mocking Charlie Kirk's death just a few days ago.

He's said worse things at least a couple of times, once to yell out "Kill the capitalists!" in reference to ordinary landlords, and another time saying the US deserved 9/11. I can't imagine why anyone follows him, but more so why any Democratic candidate wants to be associated with him.

Lori's avatar

He is a truly sick bastard. His eyes are black like a demon's eyes and I have no doubt he is owned lock, stock and barrel by the Prince of Darkness himself.

Sue Rosenthal's avatar

"Like I keep saying, when the courts close a door, the president opens the garage." 😂😂❤️🙌🙌

YMM's avatar

I hope the Nebraska lawsuit finds traction. I live in Nebraska and our property tax burden is one of the highest in the nation with the vast majority collected going to the public school system! Just sat through a school board meeting last night and they’re losing 1.2 million in state aid and instead of finding ways to save 1.2 million they are just going to increase the burden on the taxpayer because they can. A $38 million bond was turned down, but they’re still going to tax us and do the projects that they wanted to do anyway because they can!

Donna B's avatar

All schools are top heavy. I just saw the org chart for Orange County, Fl and was floored at the layers and layers of bureaucrats. It’s no wonder money doesn’t make its way down to those who deserve it - the teachers. Ugh!

RunningLogic's avatar

It's gotten to the point of absurdity. And our local school just renovated some of the athletic facilities and it's ridiculous how state of the art they are. Is that really necessary??

Samwise's avatar

Our local school district has enrollment down 25% in the past five years(with no sign of stopping), they went ahead and did a multi millions construction of a new performing arts center at the high school anyway. And are talking about other major upgrades they want to do.

Between that, the city, the county, the local library (building a new building for 10 million plus — even though the existing building could be renovated for much less), they won’t be happy until they have ALL our money.

RunningLogic's avatar

It's really insane how much money goes into these schools, for such poor returns on our "investment" :/ And how they keep justifying spending and spending and spending (particularly for schools but also for other things like the library example you mentioned).

Su's avatar

There’s a new SCOTUS case 26-179 that takes on property tax valuations. I don’t understand it. Jeff - could you elaborate on it?

https://www.obbmnetwork.tv/media/rem313-breaking-the-supreme-court-just-accepted-a-property-tax-fight-real-estate-mindset-691342

Barb's avatar

I live in NJ so I’m thinking my property tax rate is probably higher than yours as we are the highest in the country. I just got the tax bill. I’m not sure where that 2% cap went, but it is gone! My taxes went up about 8% this year! And every year they actually take more away from the students. I used to work in the schools until mandatory vax or test during Covid. They do things that I wouldn’t have approved of for my own children. But now I have to worry about the grands. 😢

CeeMcG's avatar

LayoffHedge has a brilliant website where you can check H1B hires by zip code. In my congressional district in San Diego, Sara Jacob’s district (she is the daughter or granddaughter of Irwin Jacobs, founder of Qualcomm), it shows over 34,000 H1B hires. Biggest employer? Qualcomm. 😡. https://layoffhedge.com/congressional.

Lori's avatar

34K, that is BS right there. Those jobs need to go to Americans.

CeeMcG's avatar

Amen! My son is an entry level software engineer and has applied to Qualcomm dozens of times. Never even gets an interview. I worked there back in 2004-2006 and it was already full of Indians (dot, not feather).

Robc's avatar

Another venue that needs more push in the courts is that the H1B visas with predominantly Indian hires are being used to recreate the Caste system.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/silicon-valley-has-a-caste-discrimination-problem/

https://www.npr.org/2020/10/14/923736245/caste-arrives-in-silicon-valley

RunningLogic's avatar

Why am I not surprised...

Primum non nocere's avatar

If it only matters who counts the votes, then there are no votes, only ballots.

A vote is not just paper. It is a person in a vote persona.

One person. One vote.

One legal voter. One vote.

Anything else is a preordained selection.

End.

Of.

Discussion.

Juju's avatar

And for every fraudulent ballot, it steals the vote of a legal citizen. There’s the real election interference.

Bard Joseph's avatar

And the Supreme Court ruled that money has a 1st amendment right to buy election. Wasn't Mr. Roberts on Epstein Island?

Primum non nocere's avatar

John Epstein Roberts also created a new law from the Judicial Branch all by his one "vote" ironically... aka Obamacare. Then AFTER the Obamacare was codified, he then was in the majority to remove the "punitive" aspect of the law and thereby essentially making the Law no longer a Law (vis a vis the Obamcare cash still flowed freely but the law was entirely gutted).

Just like he was in the voting Majority with the Birthright Citizenship ruling (utter horrific misinterpretation of the 14th Amendment like he intentionally misinterpreted Obamacare as a "tax") and then he was in the Majority with the Postal Service Ruling.

Roberts has not only allowed for a massive influx of illegal voters via the Birthright Ruling but now has created a way for those illegal voters to be legally counted via the Post office ruling.

None of these rulings are random. All progress an agenda one ruling at a time.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Was it Citizens United allowing foreign countries and corporations to buy elections?

Guess we have to vote harder.

Bard Joseph's avatar

It's not about voting but creating a digital prison. Why not paper ballots?

Primum non nocere's avatar

Envelopes with barcodes (e.g. 1 of 24,24,526,537 registered voters, 2 of 24,24,526,537, etc) are in essence paper votes.

Barcodes and watermarks are really hard to fraudulently fabricate. Plus, bar code readers can be used by local election officials to count paper votes. Therefore, voting machines are no longer require per se.

It is not perfect by any means, but it is extraordinarily better than the current system of voting machines illegally attached to the internet.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Who controls the bar codes?

Digital can be manipulated

Not a signed ballot.

MCav's avatar

Yes but it provides a paper audit trail that can be scrutinized after the election!

Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

Of course, none of the postal service fix would be necessary if a handful of GOPe Trump haters (or election cheaters?) would vote the overwhelming will of their constituents and pass the Save America Act.

Caroline Kwas's avatar

First??! Wowza! Hi all!

Curtis's avatar

Second. Karmy was first. 😁

Karen Lovelace's avatar

Thank you, Jeff for another excellent post. Side note, your sense of humor is always appreciated.