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Jpeach's avatar

Spirit should become the deportation airline. Low cost, slightly chaotic, no seat assignments and one bag per deportee.

RochesterDon's avatar

"Spirit Away" - love it!

skeptic bruh's avatar

No bags. They should forfeit all assets acquired while here illegally.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yes, in fact all US assets should be expropriated from all criminal aliens and used to fund mass deportation.

https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform#124

Phil Denter's avatar

Perhaps they arrived with a bag.

PE Bird's avatar

That's the spirit!!

kittynana's avatar

@PE- HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I hope.

Cuz if that doesn't happen, the concern we all should all have is ... wait for it...which airline do their customers start flying on next?

Dave Slough's avatar

Frontier for sure but let’s hope they start taking Gavin’s high speed rail

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lolol.

Maybe allowing Spirit Airlines to go bankrupt was a good thing so that the "bus people" are forced to start taking the bus again...lol...thats terrible.

Gathering Goateggs's avatar

Need to make sure there are bus routes to get them to their Carnival Cruise Line embarkations.

Willing Spirit's avatar

If they lose their food subsidies, that’s going into eat to their cruise experiences. Take away their housing assistance and the sales of luxury cars will suffer.

kittynana's avatar

@Goat- See my comment!!!!! Great minds!

Dave Slough's avatar

Greyhound stock gonna rally

Ryan Gardner's avatar

You're killing me this morning, Dave!

Susan Seas's avatar

But funny!! 🤣

Gathering Goateggs's avatar

Allegiant has entered the chat.

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

I like Allegiant. It flies from Punta Gorda FL to Asheville NC (oldest son) and Albany NY (youngest son) and they are direct flights. Albeit not every day of the week. :)

Gigi's avatar

Ditto! Six years frequently flying Allegiant between Fort Lauderdale and Lexington: nonstop, often under $100 round-trip. I recall one excessively delayed flight (@2hr) and one canceled flight (cost $36) for which I received $400 in credit toward future travel.

I love Allegiant! Hope they stay in business!

Gathering Goateggs's avatar

That was 80% busting on my friend Stu -- he just made captain at Allegiant, which is a little alarming to me since I remember when he was struggling to land a Cessna 172 in an 8 knot crosswind.

The other 20% totally justified tho.

Roger Beal's avatar

Your description of Stu's flying skills suggest his real home is in the left seat on a Ryanair jet.

JT Hawk's avatar

Allegiant's routes are so limited, and idiosyncratic, that the airline has limited its appeal.

Don Reed's avatar

05/06/26: And by extension of logic, far fewer retards and psychopaths. I could live with that.

JT Hawk's avatar

Frontier has done a decent job of being a lower-cost airline without overt appeal to low-class people. I'm not sure how they dodged that bullet, but they seem to have it figured out. I used to fly Frontier a lot (I used to use their credit card as my business card and had tons of miles) till they changed their routes, making a four hour flight a 14-hour flight. After switching to United I don't find a huge difference in quality. If Frontier lets itself take over the bargain basement tier of flying it may end up in a Spirit-like mess.

SHug's avatar

Oh dear. Frontier is already advertising a "go wild summer". They used to be pretty good at calling out and putting down bad behavior.

Personally, I think anyone who is brawling, causing chaos or just being a safety hazard should be on the No Fly list for 10 yrs. They can ride the bus until they figure out how to behave in public. Shame needs to become popular again.

JT Hawk's avatar

I think that is a very bad decision on Frontier's part. They need to look at what happened when cruise ships started to appeal to this kind of crowd. Frontier has struggled to overcome its bargain basement image, and doesn't need to start downhill again.

Willing Spirit's avatar

That’s stupid on display! They’re in for a teaching like Busch got.

Willing Spirit's avatar

The name Frontier probably dredges up thoughts of ‘no nonsense’ Marshall Dillion.

JT Hawk's avatar

Actually, it is probably related to the fact that it was started to create a low-cost carrier that would serve the western United States. It is was, and is, based in Denver. I suppose to some it was on the "frontier" as back in 1950 no doubt anything west of Chicago was the Wild West.

A.'s avatar

High Speed Rail projects seem to be a lockstep fashion for the Globalist types. You know how they all operate in lockstep once they get the memo from head office.

Carney in Canada is pushing a High Speed Rail Project too. Mostly un-needed.

Neil Kellen's avatar

...passengers will be frisked for weapons before boarding and if they are found to have none, they will be given one...

Flights will be piloted by drone operators at ICE HQ.

Oma's avatar

Thank you for that suggestion. Our oldest son is a pilot and I would NEVER put any of them in that position! He flew enough of the first handcuffed-foot-chained-to-waist chained illegals back to their ‘respected’ home countries—Haiti being his last flight when having to tell the “ATC” building that he refused to land where they instructed him to land three times because of the dangerous condition of that area for his large plane and he finally told the “ATC” he would land his plane at his discretion “and they would LOVE it!” (Don’t ask him about his short stint with a “private” plane company that he called “Moms with Money and No Sense” whose client drank all the wine and her toddlers trashed the plane lol!!! It took him hours to clean up all the thrown M&Ms and empty wine bottles!!

Debra Nolasco's avatar

I remember one episode of "All in the Family" when Archie advocated that all passengers should be given a gun when boarding a plane & collected when leaving the plane, to put an end to the highjacking that was going on at the time. His son-in-law, Michael (aka: Meathead), of course was completely averse to such an idea. Seemed like a good idea to me at the time, as much as I generally disliked guns at one time. My opinion on that has evolved over time.

AngelaK's avatar

I have watched All in the family reruns probably 100 times over and don't remember that one.🤔

Debra Nolasco's avatar

It was a good one. Maybe it was deliberately removed due to the controversy over guns. The episode was most likely in the 1970s, at the time of all of the highjackings.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

That is a great suggestion

Juju's avatar

🤣🤣👍👍 Love this!

Matt L.'s avatar

Jeff’s take on Spirit airlines was very weak. Some poor headlines of fighting by passengers so good riddance?

That’s throwing out red meat and a cop-out. Frontier first wanted to buy Spirit. Then JetBlue came in with better offer.

Federal US judge William Young of the District of Massachusetts then blocked JetBlue's $3.8 billion acquisition of Spirit Airlines in Jan 2024, ruling that the merger violated antitrust laws, arguing it would hurt consumers by eliminating Spirit, as this would reduce competition.

Well now that Spirit is no longer, is competition now greater?

Don’t let the poor people organize, I guess 🤷🏻‍♂️

TiredCitizen's avatar

Go watch (or listen to the podcast) of Steve Lehto's experience with Spirit and his take on their closing.

Matt L.'s avatar

Biden administration blocked JetBlue from buying Spirit. $3.8B offer in 2022. Massachusetts Federal judge ruled anti-trust in 2024. They eventually went bankrupt. I’m unsure why Jeff or people here are happy about what Biden did.

Gabby_Normal's avatar

Being intimately connected to the airline industry I will say that (and I wish Jeff would’ve addressed this) that the proposed merger with Jet Blue that was squashed by the Biden DOJ and anti-Capitalist Elizabeth Warren shows explicitly the differences in socialist vs Capitalist ideals.

I agree that in a Capitalist society the weak perish and the strong get stronger. But the merger was shut down because it would allegedly increase fares and decrease competition.

The exact opposite was true (I know, right? It’s as if everything they say is upside down and twisted backwards looking into a reverse mirror)

Fairs went up exponentially and now almost 20k are out of a job (much more when you factor in catering, baggage, skycaps, hotels, van drivers etc)

Amazingly not amazed at the sheer incompetence /inexperience/ ignorance of peeps who never held a real job or managed real people deciding what the world needs best.

Very unfortunate indeed

Valerie's avatar

There’s a rumor going around on X this morning that Musk is going to buy spirit and introduce the next era of commercial flight. Idk if it’s true but that sure would be interesting.

ASK's avatar

Seems like Spirit Airlines has a lot in common with Carnival cruises these days.

TiredCitizen's avatar

Very much so. Somewhere recently I read about how air travel used to be a luxury and you didn't have to deal with what Spirit and Frontier have introduced to air travel. When you mix in alcohol from the airport bars and it results in some very bad situations.

Mystic William's avatar

150 people on board. 120 seats. Fight it out.

Occam's avatar

Only if it agrees to install publicly-accessible cameras broadcasting every flight out.

Fun!

Graham's avatar

Could start a new series for TV"Fright Flight"

LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Sounds like the parasympathetic nervous system: fight, flight, freeze and fxxx.

Sharon's avatar

And maybe turn the Hoover building into a detention center for politicians who are awaiting their day in court for legal ditties such as treason, sedition, and financial corruption. More than anything, I want to see some RICO charges - if what people like Comey, Brennan and Schiff did wasn’t an organized crime spree, then nothing is. The cover-up, which is ongoing, went on as long as the crime. Remember, it only takes two acts in ten years to qualify for RICO. In the end, it’s not so much what they did - it was what they were trying to do that was so heinous.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

The heavens will praise Your wonders, O LORD;

Your faithfulness also in the assembly of the holy ones.

For who in the skies is comparable to the LORD?

Who among the sons of the mighty is like the LORD,

A God greatly feared in the council of the holy ones,

And awesome above all those who are around Him?

O LORD God of hosts, who is like You, O mighty LORD?

Your faithfulness also surrounds You.

— Psalm 89:5-8 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

Lori's avatar

God is surely most wonderful. I am awestruck by His creations every single day. I make sure to tell Him how much I appreciate Him, the beauty He created and the wonders of the universe He allows us to behold. God is awesome.

Guy White's avatar

Every morning — especially this time of year — I’m reminded of God’s incredible creativity and beauty and how grateful I am to be able to experience it, especially as one of His born-again children. It’s simple: AI could never make a hummingbird, never begin to design it, never even conceive of the idea! And there they are flitting around the patio every morning. What joy fills my heart!

Jeanne Schwass's avatar

We have a Mexican Sage and a Cranberry Salvia in our front yard. One of my favorite things to do in the morning is to sit on our deck with a cup of coffee and watch the sweet hummingbirds flit from flower to flower. On occasion, one has come near the deck entrance and hovered, as if to say, "Thanks for the flowers!"

Debi Lutman's avatar

”never BEGIN to design it” 💟

TRUTH. He alone to praised. Glorified & Honored, forevermore.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Check out this version of the beautiful worship song “Behold our God”https://youtu.be/R5iAy7FQuNo?si=N9_z6tii7zKdRNzm

Oma's avatar

Beautiful!! Thank you!!

Margot Wooster's avatar

You’re welcome! I had been reading the lyrics to that song this morning and singing it to the Lord and myself, before I read C&C, and it fit the comment so perfectly.

Laura Kasner's avatar

Margot - one of my favorite hymns. Always gives me a big lump in my throat when we sing it at church

Margot Wooster's avatar

They didn’t sing the bridge in the video, but still so beautiful! The Sovereign Grace music people (some of whom wrote this song) have been so gifted by the Lord to write excellent worship music.

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Very nice, Margo. Thank you.

Lori's avatar

Thanks Margot ever so much!

Margot Wooster's avatar

You’re welcome! I cried watching the video of those beautiful young believers.

Lori's avatar

I cried too. Seeing all those young people in love with the Lord does a body and mind good. They all looked so happy and content in their admiration for the Lord. God bless those kids.

Margot Wooster's avatar

A foretaste of heaven!

Karmy's avatar

TriTorch! How are you? I’ve been thinking about you as I haven’t see you posting lately.

SHug's avatar

Where did you see TriTorch??? I've been looking around for him since mid March!

Karmy's avatar

I saw a like to my post come in from TriTorch. Look on substack for the name.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

I’ve been wondering the same. I even posted on his page. 😢

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Angels, that was very touching. I was a young man when Keith hit the scene, 75 now. Such a devoted talent. We sang that song in the church I was attending, a song you could really engage with. At the time I didn't recognize it as a Keith Green song and hadn't hear the story of his writing it.

Angels Watching Over Me's avatar

True worship music has a heaven-bound sound, and Keith Green's music caught my attention back in the late 70s during college. Appreciate you sharing that it touched you. Here's one more, my favorite. Blessings.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O8zMkXoSDyY

Susie & Security's avatar

Thank you for sharing that amazing song-prayer. 🙏🏼

NDCrouch's avatar

Never heard of him, or his songs before. But I am in tears!

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Apparently, the statute of limitations ends soon for Fauci, the Mengele of vaccines. Will we see him held accountable? And I hope we never have to see the name J. Edgar Hoover grace a federal building again.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Did you mean to use the verb "grace" or "disgrace"? 😂

Lori's avatar

Ends on the 11th. I have plastered all over social media and Truth Social Sayer Ji's article on this and you can't believe how many people are on board with getting that POS indicted. I am praying on my hands and knees for this. If you did not see the awesome substack article, here it is Dave. It was written a few days ago.

https://sayerji.substack.com/p/the-ten-day-countdown-please-delete?utm_source=post-email-title&publication_id=2878303&post_id=196135058&utm_campaign=email-post-title&isFreemail=true&r=qos2e&triedRedirect=true&utm_medium=email

Maureen ODH's avatar

… we know it was a DOD & DARPA operation handed to Fauci… obviously no one will indict the very agency’s who collaborated the pandemic with the HIV and COVID playbook creator… David Martin has the unacceptably ignored by the powers that be…. receipts…

Freedom Fox's avatar

WHY is it that mentally unstable people with axes to grind like Palisades arsonist Jonathan Rinderknecht don't perform a true public service by directing their ire at the likes of Fauci? Enquiring minds want to know.

Familiar with the term "prison justice?" Typically exacted on ChoMo's (child molesters) because what the law usually delivers is unjust by its insufficiency. Just sayin'.

Lori's avatar

I am still praying Maureen. If anybody can make it happen, it is God.

David Eldon Wood's avatar

I am relieved that Fauci can now get what he deserves. The evil that he has done is not only a crime against humanity but has set back the integrity of science.

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Wow that was quite the article. I too pray that he in indicted and convicted. He is a bad man.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Please ... Anyone ... anyone interested in Fauchi's AIDS handiwork ... Read the intro and first chapter of:

Inventing the AIDS Virus by Peter Duesberg

Curtis's avatar

RFK Jr addresses it thoroughly in "The Real Anthony Fauci" as well.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

I'm sure he does. RFK Jr has access to deep wisdom and he confirms it by the day.

Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

I thought he had blanket immunity?.

Dena's avatar

Not sure if the autopen immunity covers lying to Congress.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

It makes sense that the autopen immunity should not cover lying to Congress because Congress is a co-equal branch of government that doesn't answer to Executive branch dictates. It's the same reason why Biden's covid shot mandates could not include Congress.

PonyBoy's avatar

...or, fraudulently facilitating mass murder.

Marty Kiner's avatar

MAHA needs to push for a Fauci indictment stat!

Johnny-O's avatar

Why? I thought team Trump was team freedom and that they would obviously prosecute the wrongdoers for the biggest crime against humanity in human history?? But then again, I don't see Trump prosecuting himself for his own role played in it all. And yes, I'm well aware that Trump didn't mandate it, which somehow absolves him from any responsibility/culpability for some reason to many around here.

Maha's avatar

Trump is not an epidemiologist, infectious disease guy, or biochemist. He was advised by criminal conspirators. His original instincts were correct--COVID was a scam--but he, like many, had no clue how all-pervasive and deadly it was. Combine the depth of the conspiracy, against his presidency and the American people, with the all powerful Pharma Cartel distributing the resultant bio- weapon, all while Trump was fighting the Democratic lawfare machine, it seems misplaced to place blame on him.

Also consider he was actively looking at working around Fauci's "grip" on the so-called White House Coronavirus Task Force, who he had assigned that ass-kissing Pence to lead. He asked the competent Dr Scott Atlas to evaluate the workings of the group, and intercede as required. Atlas essentially reported that Fauci and Deborah Birx were like two idiot children with no understanding of infectious disease, or were they competent in Public Heath basics. Atlas would make recommendations to Fauci and Birx, who would say yes, we could do that, and never implement the changes. All this time, Trump was fighting a war with members of his own Administration and the machinations of the Democrat loyal judiciary.

Steve Stevens's avatar

None of your excuses holds water.

-It doesn't take an epidemiologist, infectious disease guy, or a biochemist to question the safety of a new vaccine that is approved in a year when it normally takes ten years.

- A president who believes regulations (like vaccine safety tests) are bad played right into the hands of evil people like Fauci and company.

-Why didn't he listen to Atlas?

-Why is he bothering to fight a war with anybody when ultimately HE'S the decider?

-The all powerful Pharma Cartel couldn't deliver their bio-weapon without his approval.

-To this day he STILL believes the covid vax is safe!

PonyBoy's avatar

Maybe you're not old enough to remember but they murdered JFK in broad daylight for going against his own government.

This was planned and President Trump was only one man in a sea of snakes in his first term.

So many in President Trump's first term were there solely to insure he never saw a second term.

Johnny-O's avatar

I thought he was a 10 dimensional chess wizard taking down the deep state bruh!?!?

Steve Stevens's avatar

Well why did he hire them?

And if he didn't like them why didn't he replace them?

Maha's avatar

You're wrong on every front.

Johnny-O's avatar

Really? Well, I am not an epidemiologist or biochemist, vaccine regulator, etc, and I was able to quickly figure out that mRNA vaccines had never been safely produced and had been abject failures. We were told it was "safe and effective" despite the safety trials being ongoing. The poster isn't wrong at all - you just don't want to acknowledge the tough reality that Trump is a con man, and you all are being conned.

Johnny-O's avatar

So, the grand master chess player was duped? And duped by the big pharma criminal cartel nonetheless - who anyone with an inkling of street smarts would know better than to be fooled by.

Sorry, I just don't buy it - especially considering Trump has never admitted being fooled or making a mistake - in fact, he's done the opposite and bragged about OWS. You can't have it both ways as much as many of you around here would like to.

Maha's avatar

Well, here's the great news. You don't have to "buy it". But it doesn't make your assessment correct.

Willing Spirit's avatar

You ever gonna get over the butt hurt of Kamala’s ass kicking loss?

Keith Jajko's avatar

He won't. He loves him some Soreloserpalooza.

PonyBoy's avatar

Hey Bonehead, those in the entrenched bureaucracy before Covid began insured that President Trump was unable to alter the course of Fauci's role in mass marketing the poisonous injections insuring the pharmaceutical companies record profits.

The largest human experiment on mankind was planned long before President Trump claimed Hydroxichloriquine would help eradicate illnesses due to the Covid Bioweapon.

Johnny-O's avatar

Sure, but why did he go out and cheerlead for the poisonous shots and call it a great accomplishment? Seems rather boneheaded.

PonyBoy's avatar

All of you who've bought into this hate thing with President Trump are a waste of time.

Hate will destroy you as a human.

CynicalCuteness's avatar

Found the gnat with a wedgie!

LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Be advised that there’s no statute of limitations for murder. Hear that, Fauci?

Lori's avatar

Even better. I am salivating waiting for God and Karma to take care of him.

Occam's avatar

It's a rhetorical question, correct?

Of course he will never be punished.

If the administration was seriously going to punish people, there would be at least SOMEONE punished already.

Don't listen to what they SAY, look at what they DO.

Barbls's avatar

Dear Mr Black Pill: Mr Comey has been arrested and indicted.

Fauci was pardoned by President Autopen for all his federal crimes. Trump can't indict for state crimes. However, Fauci associate Dr David Morens was just indicted by the DOJ for concealing and destroying federal communications with Dr Death related to covid research.

Jacquijacq's avatar

Hi Barbls- Aren’t there gg to be some hard questions about the validity of auto pen pardons and blanket pardons with no crime attached ??

Barbls's avatar

So many laws broken by government; so few Supreme Court dates.

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

I don't think the Autopen is the game here:

By prosecuting Morens ALL Fauchi's machinations come to light. He ... and all his supporters will gain unprecedented radioactivity ... they are psychologically trapped in downward spiral

And above all, Our People will see the crimes

Freedom Fox's avatar

And will be tried in a Biden/Obama/Clinton appointed judge court, by Biden/Obama/Clinton jurors. It ain't black pill to know when you're sitting at a poker table where the dealer has rigged the game when you spot the marked cards. But, hey, at least you're sitting at the table, woohooo!!

Not.

Until these trial venues are moved NOTHING will happen, just dog and mule shows.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Every single one of them has an expiration date. Then they will have to explain themselves to the ultimate judge.

Maha's avatar

There may be some justice coming after the midterms. Watch for a potential haymaker against the Dems coming in from a direction not expected. I read about this a few weeks ago, and am concerned it should not be discussed further. I know, not very useful. But hopefully, it will come to fruition.

Barbls's avatar

True. The trials by law have to take place in the district where they occurred. I wonder what workaround can be done that won't be undone by the very judges who want to protect the criminals.

Maha's avatar

I know a way...

Freedom Fox's avatar

The work around is the internet. They've already gone into conservative districts and extradited people to liberal jurisdictions for persecutions/prosecutions in rigged venues, for memes and other communications that cross state lines, like the entire internet does. Just show one person who was harmed/impacted by something they did/said that was felt/heard in a conservative jurisdiction and that's your workaround. Goose meet gander.

Peace's avatar

Is Comey in jail currently after an arrest?

Proberta's avatar

Prosecutions?!??

Does anyone still believe that the genocidal criminals will be prosecuted?

Trump awarded Fauci a Presidential Commendation!

Johnny-O's avatar

Oh yeah - that sure didn't age well. But people will still break their brains with intense mental gymnastics to tell themselves that Trump is a good guy fighting for us little folk!

CK's avatar

As much as it sucks I doubt you could touch Fauci, he was probably too careful. Based on the Morens indictment it seems to be the case.

Probably better to spend resources going after Baric, Dazek and their ilk.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I want Bill Gates arrested and prosecuted. He's still out there causing havoc and plotting against humanity.

Mrs. RW

Bgagnon's avatar

Yes!!! He’s at the top of my evil people list!

EK MtnTime's avatar

Of course that weasel is going to escape justice in this lifetime. Evil personified, that one. But without a doubt he’s facing an eternity in hell.

James Goodrich's avatar

It’s really too bad all the good democrat communist fellow travelers got in the way of Spirit merging with Jet Blue for 3.8 billion dollars. This should have been avoided. At least temporarily, airline tickets have gone up 50-100%. Spirit had a very young list of airplanes which made them valuable especially to Jet Blue. This is what you get with people that never ran a business!

The pioneer of global warming, Al Gore, is now trying a new scam telling people there is going to be an ice age in 25 years. I think he recently saw the movie The Day After Tomorrow and thought it was real and concluded the planet now has a cold. Anyway to frighten people to make a buck!

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Lol James you made my morning with that comment about Al Gore, remember he invented the internet 🤪😂

Willing Spirit's avatar

I was waiting in line for a holiday tour of Baltimore Mansion, when I first heard that! It was quite a joke.

I honestly believe Al Gore absolutely hates America because after all the drama he lost.

He also liked the line that he had been a public servant for his entire adult life.

In the teachers’ lounge I pointed out that it had apparently made a multimillionaire out of him, so where was the sacrifice? I got blank stares from all the sheep.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

lol W.S. you made me lol!!! Blank stares from the sheep!

Guy White's avatar

Any mention of Algore brings to mind the Paul Shanklin parody (as heard on Rush’s show) “Earth on Fire.” Treat yourself and give it a listen today.

Mary C Irwin's avatar

I still miss Rush. Those were the most hilarious parodies of all time. Remember Al Sharpton yelling “yo momma’s so fat” jokes into the bullhorn? I had to park the car to stop laughing one day.

Mary C Irwin's avatar

Yo momma’s so fat, she looked at the menu at the restaurant and said, “Okay.”

Mary C Irwin's avatar

Yo momma’s so fat, she wore a little black dress and she looked like outer space.

Mary C Irwin's avatar

Yo momma’s so fat, when she went missing, her picture took up all four sides of the milk carton.

David Nelson's avatar

Guy, maybe "Ball of Fire?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UcLgbanGkMw&list=PLDPIlWWB-n4VAkr_QzEDod7ZWOurhzKTZ&index=3

(What the heck? Here's a list of all the Shanklin parodies: that "Barack the Magic Negro" one looks interesting... ...and the prescient "Bomb, Bomb, Bomb Iran" from 17(???) years ago... https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDPIlWWB-n4VAkr_QzEDod7ZWOurhzKTZ)

shayne's avatar

Gore the grifter

VelvetStitching's avatar

I think they are TRYING to create an ice-age! All this sky spraying seems to be lowering the temps.

I remember in the 60's and 70's in Minnesota it WAS colder than Alaska! The last winter I lived in MN (1983) we had actual temps of negative 60 and wind chill temps of negative 110!!! I decided that winter to MOVE!

WHY do these "nuttier than squirrel turds" (to quote a favorite blogger - Devin Gibson) people want to desecrate our planet and the human civilization?! It is crazy!

I wish "they" would just stop!

(is the next thing on the agenda to create an ice-age so humans are left with no choice but to eat crickets?!) Yikes!

All speculation!

Margot Wooster's avatar

I think the answer to your WHY question is that they are deceived by the father of lies, aka satan, into thinking it’s a good idea!

Politico Phil's avatar

I don't think they are deceived. They fully agree with the depopulation agenda. Power is it's own reason for existence.

Politico Phil's avatar

People have a hard time opening their eyes to the fact that there is an actual Depopulation Agenda. Because we are useless eaters, we are being exterminated. The goal was stated in the Georgia Guidestones and documented in the Deagel Report to reduce the population of the planet to half a billion people. That means killing off 8 billion people. I know! Who could believe that? Satanists do.

Marty Kiner's avatar

Decades ago we were to have an ice age and as temps increased they had to pivot to something else thus the birth of climate change. I recall the ozone layer when they banned aerosol hairspray and cleaners etc. and then we had acid rain, I don’t recall what the cause was for that.

A.'s avatar
May 5Edited

Below are the 41 failed doomsday, eco-pocalyptic predictions (with links in the full article):

1. 1967: Dire Famine Forecast By 1975

2. 1969: Everyone Will Disappear In a Cloud Of Blue Steam By 1989 (1969)

3. 1970: Ice Age By 2000

4. 1970: America Subject to Water Rationing By 1974 and Food Rationing By 1980

5. 1971: New Ice Age Coming By 2020 or 2030

6. 1972: New Ice Age By 2070

7. 1974: Space Satellites Show New Ice Age Coming Fast

8. 1974: Another Ice Age?

9. 1974: Ozone Depletion a ‘Great Peril to Life (data and graph)

10. 1976: Scientific Consensus Planet Cooling, Famines imminent

11. 1980: Acid Rain Kills Life In Lakes (additional link)

12. 1978: No End in Sight to 30-Year Cooling Trend (additional link)

13. 1988: Regional Droughts (that never happened) in 1990s

14. 1988: Temperatures in DC Will Hit Record Highs

15. 1988: Maldive Islands will Be Underwater by 2018 (they’re not)

16. 1989: Rising Sea Levels will Obliterate Nations if Nothing Done by 2000

17. 1989: New York City’s West Side Highway Underwater by 2019 (it’s not)

18. 2000: Children Won’t Know what Snow Is

19. 2002: Famine In 10 Years If We Don’t Give Up Eating Fish, Meat, and Dairy

20. 2004: Britain will Be Siberia by 2024

21. 2008: Arctic will Be Ice Free by 2018

22. 2008: Climate Genius Al Gore Predicts Ice-Free Arctic by 2013

23. 2009: Climate Genius Prince Charles Says we Have 96 Months to Save World

24. 2009: UK Prime Minister Says 50 Days to ‘Save The Planet From Catastrophe’

25. 2009: Climate Genius Al Gore Moves 2013 Prediction of Ice-Free Arctic to 2014

26. 2013: Arctic Ice-Free by 2015 (additional link)

27. 2014: Only 500 Days Before ‘Climate Chaos’

28. 1968: Overpopulation Will Spread Worldwide

29. 1970: World Will Use Up All its Natural Resources

30. 1966: Oil Gone in Ten Years

31. 1972: Oil Depleted in 20 Years

32. 1977: Department of Energy Says Oil will Peak in 1990s

33. 1980: Peak Oil In 2000

34. 1996: Peak Oil in 2020

35. 2002: Peak Oil in 2010

36. 2006: Super Hurricanes!

37. 2005 : Manhattan Underwater by 2015

38. 1970: Urban Citizens Will Require Gas Masks by 1985

39. 1970: Nitrogen buildup Will Make All Land Unusable

40. 1970: Decaying Pollution Will Kill all the Fish

41. 1970s: Killer Bees!

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/50-years-of-failed-doomsday-eco-pocalyptic-predictions-the-so-called-experts-are-0-50/

Politico Phil's avatar

That is a great list! Thanks.

A.'s avatar

It makes an impact to see it all laid out like this over a long period -- the insanity of the Climate crew. And how their main purpose was to induce fear.

Susan Seas's avatar

Well, maybe the banning of aerosol hairsprays was actually a blessing in disguise 😅

neener's avatar

Supposedly the burning of coal caused acid rain.

Maha's avatar

Marty, I think it is axiomatic to remember the Marxist-inspired Democrats have got a handle on any and all changes to the biosphere, whether temperature, polar ice, acidification, or CO2 levels rising. It is your fault. Not their fault, they are trying to "fix it". If it is actually unfixable, and unexplainable in any rational way, it's still your fault.

Willing Spirit's avatar

Any mention of Al Gore takes me back to the ‘hanging chads’ of 2000. Florida was the determiner in a razor thin race. Florida has two time zones; CST west of Tallahassee in the panhandle. The rest of the state is EST. The Panhandle is very conservative, with several military bases employing hundreds of thousands of people, who would and did head to the polls after work.

Dan Rather caused the chaos of the 2000 election. At 7:00 EST, he declared the polls were closed in Florida and Al Gore had won the state and the presidency. Disgusted conservatives, lined up to vote at 6:00 p.m. in the Florida Panhandle, left in droves.

It was never about seniors in Florida not being able to punch holes. No one has ever called out Dan Rather. He should have been jailed.

He has to be close to meeting his maker.

Susan Seas's avatar

I’ve never been very familiar with Spirit Airlines but now, knowing that the customers are akin to Jerry Springer audience members, I guess I’m glad.

cat's avatar

I thought he watched the Ice Age (animation) films.

SB's avatar

Actually, I heard transportation head say all the planes were leased. There was literally nothing left to buy last week. Idk if that was true when JetBlue merger was blocked tho

James Goodrich's avatar

Spirit Airlines operated one of the youngest and most fuel-efficient fleets in the United States, primarily utilizing Airbus A320neo and A321neo aircraft before ceasing operations in May 2026. quick google search. If they allowed the merger these planes would have gone to Jet blue. The 3.8 billion dollars would have helped share holders. People wouldn’t have lost their flights. Jet Blue would have picked up those flights. Spirit employees wouldn’t have kept their jobs. And the list goes on. Now it’s a mess. Billions were lost!! Tens of thousands were hurt.

Maureen's avatar

Elizabeth ‘face-like-a mule’ Warren - coffee spewing time! Good one Jeff - it’s even slightly native sounding!

shayne's avatar

Mules have taken to the streets in protest 🤣🤣

neener's avatar

My mule is personally offended at the comparison!

Margot Wooster's avatar

😂 Our neighbors have mules, and they are beautiful!

nancy barker's avatar

Elizabeth…voice-like-Screeching-Owl Warren

Hawk's avatar

Yep, that was a winner!!! 😆😂🤣

MS's avatar

A face like that ought to wear some underpants.

Curtis's avatar

"food-assistance safety net". Which millions of people have turned into a hammock... 😉

Alan Devincentis's avatar

They saw it as a hammock before signing up.

Jpeach's avatar

Trump and Bessent have mastered the art of the financial win-win-win. Reduce the federal deficit, help a strategic ally, weaken strategic enemies.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Has the debt been reduced?

War machine in charge.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Why do you bother. You’re like eeyore, only fat.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Is that Pig Latin?

Arnold C Fossen's avatar

Funny how single-issue people also tend to be doomers.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Like bankrupting the middle class with phoney wars.

Funny?

Johnny-O's avatar

Last night I heard that it took about 13 months into Trump's new admin to add a trillion to the deficit, and just 80 more days for the next trillion. Where is the reduction exactly? Sounds like record deficits to me. DOGE, MAGA, blah blah blah. Smoke and mirrors.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Pump and dump on Wall St. Options

Johnny-O's avatar

The vultures are back in DC. Well, I guess they never left. Just vultures for a different "team." But you can keep cheering them on if you please.

John of Oregon Fame's avatar

I think you misunderstand, Johnny.

GregWA's avatar

Pity Trump can't end the Income Tax before the midterms! That would seal the victory!

But I also have high hopes on that front in light of SCOTUS's Louisiana ruling and fast tracking.

Is anyone keeping score: which States are re-drawing their electoral maps in light of Louisiana? And what is the estimated shift in Dem vs Rep seats?

ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But he may begin to drop the idea into the national conversation. And ....."promises made, promises kept" has some traction.

Lori's avatar

I so wish. I hope he makes sure Fauci is indicted.

Arnold C Fossen's avatar

The DOJ needs to immediately file lawsuits against all the states with race-based voting districts and demand that they immediately fix their unconstitutional districting policies.

william howard's avatar

I saw one estimate of 40 new republican districts

Susan Clack's avatar

Now if we could just get Republicans to get off their duffs and DO SOMETHING! Like codify all of Trump's EOs!! 🌩️🌩️🌩️🥊🥊🥊🏋🏼🏋🏼🏋🏼

Steve Stevens's avatar

How will the government get funded then? Print more money and cause inflation while driving up interest rates?

Jacquijacq's avatar

Well our score in. t is: Republicans 0 and its not changing 😤

MattD's avatar

I have to admit that I thought this was hyperbole when DJT said this in his inauguration speech. But something about his steely resolved eyes and Melania’s awesome Capone hat stuck with me… now its looking probable…

”In his January 20, 2025, inaugural address, Donald Trump declared the beginning of a "golden age of America," promising to make the nation prosperous, strong, and respected globally. He emphasized a "nationalist" approach, prioritizing American sovereignty, safe borders, and an end to the country being taken advantage of by other nations!

Juju's avatar

He has always said what he means and does what he says. That’s why my support for him won’t falter. Steadfast. Honest. Determined.

MattD's avatar

Exactly my thoughts as well Juju. DJT is a man of his word which is very rare these days. He has a long history of being a true Patriot also. I have come to believe that his …let’s just say … direct and blunt comments are not shots from the hip but well thought out. He is intentionally over the top which both exposes and stimulates the vitriolic stupidity of the TDS crowd and often simultaneously validates his comment and thoughts. He understands people….

Bgagnon's avatar

I agree 🎯 👌

Susan Baker's avatar

The Gulf of America poster prominently displayed beside his desk in the Oval office was a BiG clue, I thought.

MattD's avatar

The Abraham Accords from his first term was monumental relationship building. His early trip to secure economic deals this term while likely discussing curbing Iranian influence was now (in hindsight) the next step in a strategic realignment.

I remember him praising the qualities of the individual countries and being very clear that the US saw them as sovereign. The heads nodding in agreement under their traditional head ware and white flowing robes was telling I thought.

Bottom line - he was laying a permission structure (my new favorite phrase) for the Saudis et. al. to be at least neutral in what was to come. After all it was a big business deal as well as a vision for the future that he was describing. He showed them respect but projected strength of the US…those steely eyes again. Fast forward and Iran is lobbing missiles at them and we are saving the region…

Susan Baker's avatar

Absolutely! I told my brother if Trump pulls all this off, Trump’s legacy is cemented in history.

MattD's avatar

Susan, I’m sure you meant when not if he pulls this off. 😉✊🇺🇸

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Trump has effectively solved every problem we have, except for one: how can we get rid of the "kill switch" coming soon to a new vehicle near you.

Lori's avatar

and the rogue judges and quite frankly, the whole damn democrat party except Fetterman and a few others.

Juju's avatar

The rogue judges!!! Apologizing to the guy that tried to assassinate the president? That judge should be removed from the case

Susan Seas's avatar

I agree he should be removed from something, not just the case. Maybe courtrooms altogether!

Lori's avatar
May 5Edited

I am telling you, they are mentally and spiritually devoid of what is right and moral. They are truly diseased, no doubt about it. What these judges believe is to fuck over the victims and their families and honor and praised the depraved deviants. In fact, I truly believe if given the chance, these insane judges would watch the deviant attack a victim, egg them on to do the worst harm and even participate themselves. It makes me wonder how many of them practice SRA since their whole view of justice is backwards. They have got to be possessed bc this is how Satan works-normalize what is abnormal and deviant.

Susan Clack's avatar

🎯🔥🎯🔥🎯🔥🎯🔥🎯

VelvetStitching's avatar

That judge should be removed from judging!

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

The Dems are in the midst of collapse as a serious contender for public office. But the judges are a huge problem with their lifetime appointments, that, and the Senate isn't confirming nominees for the judiciary. Way to go, Thune.

Lori's avatar

Yup, we got the RINOS and the Dems which equal AINOs. Americans in name only.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Ooh, that’s a good one!

Steve Stevens's avatar

Congressman Massie -the guy Trump hates- introduced an amendment to prohibit funding for the kill switch. It failed. Look at all of the Republicans who voted against it or didn't vote. Republicans suck all most as much as Democrats!

Amodei (NV) Republican Nevada No

Bacon Republican Nebraska No

Bice Republican Oklahoma No

Bilirakis Republican Florida No

Bost Republican Illinois No

Calvert Republican California No

Carter (TX) Republican Texas No

Cole Republican Oklahoma No

Diaz-Balart Republican Florida No

Dunn (FL) Republican Florida No

Edwards Republican North Carolina No

Ellzey Republican Texas No

Feenstra Republican Iowa No

Fine Republican Florida No

Fitzpatrick Republican Pennsylvania No

Fleischmann Republican Tennessee No

Fong Republican California No

Garbarino Republican New York No

Gimenez Republican Florida No

Hill (AR) Republican Arkansas No

Hurd (CO) Republican Colorado No

Jack Republican Georgia No

James Republican Michigan No

Joyce (OH) Republican Ohio No

Kean Republican New Jersey No

Kelly (PA) Republican Pennsylvania No

Kiggans (VA) Republican Virginia No

Kiley (CA) Republican California No

Kim Republican California No

King-Hinds Republican Northern Mariana Islands No

LaHood Republican Illinois No

LaLota Republican New York No

Lawler Republican New York No

Lucas Republican Oklahoma No

Malliotakis Republican New York No

Maloy Republican Utah No

Mast Republican Florida No

Meuser Republican Pennsylvania No

Miller (OH) Republican Ohio No

Miller-Meeks Republican Iowa No

Moore (NC) Republican North Carolina No

Moore (UT) Republican Utah No

Moylan Republican Guam No

Murphy Republican North Carolina No

Newhouse Republican Washington No

Nunn (IA) Republican Iowa No

Rogers (KY) Republican Kentucky No

Salazar Republican Florida No

Simpson Republican Idaho No

Stefanik Republican New York No

Thompson (PA) Republican Pennsylvania No

Turner (OH) Republican Ohio No

Valadao Republican California No

Van Orden Republican Wisconsin No

Wittman Republican Virginia No

Womack Republican Arkansas No

Zinke Republican Montana No

Hunt Republican Texas Not Voting

McClintock Republican California Not Voting

Radewagen Republican American Samoa Not Voting

https://clerk.house.gov/Votes/202643

TiredCitizen's avatar

So right. Massie is a Constutionalist and doesn't bow the knee to Trump. You don't do that and you become the enemy.

Occam's avatar

oh, and global war fomented by the US

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I think you mean fomented by Iran.

Richard Whitney's avatar

Yes, that Iran, bombing their own leaders and their own schoolchildren.

Totally their fault.

Mrs. RW

BD's avatar

No, the Iran that has killed over 40k of it's own citizens. and many other Muslims in the ME.

Johnny-O's avatar

What planet do you live on?

Steve Stevens's avatar

You're forgetting about our debt problem. And reducing income tax revenue just makes it worse along with the inflation that comes with it.

Douglas Hamilton's avatar

Dear C & C Readers, to get an example of what R.F.K Jr is up against as he tries to tackle the vaccine scams, have a look at Robert Malone's Substack article of May 2nd, 2026 titled "The Senator the mRNA Industry Built". The concessions made to Senator Bill Cassidy (of Louisiana) to get Kennedy confirmed as HHS Secretary in the first place have handcuffed Kennedy's first 2 years. Hopefully Cassidy will be defeated in the upcoming primary and we won't have to see his evil, ugly mug in the Senate ever again.

LMWC's avatar

Scott Pressler is on it! He is promising to peacefully primary both Cassidy and Cornyn of Texas. This is what we need more of people who make the effort.

TiredCitizen's avatar

And never forget Malone helped to create the mRNA device.

Leo's avatar

Tired, No. Malone discovered the mRNA sequence, and declared it too unstable to use. He did not create any "device" related to the Covid Vaxx.

Susan Daniels's avatar

Spirit was the Carnival Cruise of airlines.

brenda packer's avatar

Lol. I was thinking Spirit Airlines is the Chucky Cheese in the sky.

Tom's avatar

Fabio: "I can't believe it's an airline!"

Melissa S's avatar

And now their clientele will be flying (and brawling) on other airlines. Maybe it is time to consider "no fly" lists for people who can't technically be classified as terrorists but who are a danger to other passengers and airport and airline staff.

Kate's avatar

My parents took me on my first jet trip in the 1960s. Not everyone could fly back in the day but that was a good thing. People dressed nicely and were well behaved.

Bgagnon's avatar

Kate - I have a picture of my mom and me in an east coast airport from 1959 - both of us were dressed in Sunday best and my mom wore a hat and we both wore gloves! I was 12 then. Yes, flying has changed considerably!

Kate's avatar

Love that image. People were classier back then.

Susan Seas's avatar

I have been fortunate enough to spend a lot of time in Europe, and I came to the conclusion that not all Americans deserve a passport! 🤦🏼‍♀️

Jacquijacq's avatar

Idk - every country leaves something to be desired. Last time I went to Italy, the German tourists were the biggest slobs I e ever seen 🤷🏻‍♀️

RunningLogic's avatar

Yup there are a lot of rude and uncouth people all over the world 😕

Penny North's avatar

Maybe install a kill switch in the carry on luggage that sets off an alarm if they are deemed unfit to fly?

Alan Devincentis's avatar

How sad that stereotypes are so damn accurate.

kittynana's avatar

@Alan- there're stereotypes for a reason

Margot Wooster's avatar

I went on three Carnival cruises and had a wonderful time, but that was WAY back in the early 1980’s, and people didn’t act like they do now.

Susan Daniels's avatar

Now, it’s mostly blacks acting black.

Kate's avatar

The Greyhound bus of the skies😝

Susan Daniels's avatar

Sometimes people can only afford Greyhound.

Dana Hope's avatar

They’re both the Section 8 of their respective industries.

Matt L.'s avatar

Spirit was valuable enough that JetBlue wanted to buy it for $3.8B. A US Federal judge (from Massachusetts) blocked the sale stating removing Spirit would decrease competition.

As for different airlines, cruise ships, cars or trucks. Different strokes for different folks.

Susan Daniels's avatar

Elizabeth Warren killed the deal. No one complained when the government bailed out the car makers. Only Ford declined the offer.

Matt L.'s avatar

Elizabeth Warren doesn’t have the power to block that. It was the Biden administration and its DOJ that did the block. Transportation Secretary Pete was also involved.

That said, Warren was a vocal proponent of blocking the JetBlue-Spirit merger, calling it a "Biden win for flyers".

Susan Daniels's avatar

She was the most vocal supporter of blocking the merger. I suspect she has never flown on a commercial flight in her entire life and has never had to worry about the cost.

Dana Hope's avatar

Or when Obama bailed out the banks in 2008.

Susan Daniels's avatar

It would have had to be the following year because he would have been inaugurated on Jan. 20, 2009. I suspect he filled his own pockets at the same time.

The Great Santini's avatar

Jeff, I think you’ve been overly generous with the Reuters story. This isn’t “gossip”. It is lies. Someone made the whole thing up. Frankly the Reuters reporters are almost certainly ‘in’ on the lies, even if they had outside help.

Doug Young's avatar

As a health freedom former Democrat (OK, I was leaning Libertarian because I started my own small business 30 years ago) who worked on the RFK Jr. campaign, once COVID happened and I saw which party leaned most strongly into the narrative, especially out here on the left coast, I can say that I re-evaluated all of the liberal positions there are. Every. Single. One. And I basically switched my entire orientation. Such as not believing some targeted piece of propaganda by Reuters.

PonyBoy's avatar

The writers at Reuters could sure use a "Roto-Rooter" to break the log jam in their arses.

SD Scott's avatar

Good for you! You’ve done the nearly impossible.

Doug Young's avatar

Thanks. Wasn't that hard. Just had eyes to see. We have other friends here in SF who underwent similar transformations (but, yes, some, who did see COVID for what it was, still hang onto some of the old leftist tropes).

shayne's avatar

Good morning!!!!

NoVA mom's avatar

Happy sunny Saturday morning all! Loving this NoVA weather right now ! ☀️🌷

Juju's avatar

Ugh we are overcast rainy and dreary here. But C&C and its community will provide my sunshine today!

NoVA mom's avatar

Lol - sorry - I’m retired and clearly have no idea what day it is!! On my way to visit a college roommate - so it ‘feels like’ a Saturday. Oof…. Maybe need more coffee….🙄☕️🙃

Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

You really had me going there for a minute. Had to check the calendar!! 😆

mary's avatar

Please don’t confuse me…. Struggling with the mind fog as it is…..

NoVA mom's avatar

Clearly I am as well…..🙃🫣

Juju's avatar

🤣 yes it is but like happy hour it’s always Saturday somewhere. Lololol

Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

It rained after midnight, and just now stopped here. But there is more rain moving toward us out of Missouri currently. At least I didn't have storms overnight, just thunder.

VelvetStitching's avatar

We have sunshine - but saw the "sprayers" loading the sky last evening and the haze starting up... Ugh!

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Sunny, dry, 80 in central Florida. Just a little slice of paradise.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

They are building here at an astonishing rate. We need more great minds here.

Juju's avatar

I know, I kept screenshots of our last convo about this where you shared a house for sale near you! Sadly we aren’t ready to move yet and by the time my husband retires (blue collar union so needs to stay near it,) the prices in FL will be out of our reach. They almost already are. Our finances are not increasing with the same rate of home prices due to the demand there. It’s so sad 😢 I don’t think we are going to be able to choose FL unless we commit to another 30 year mortgage for the 50% portion we can’t afford.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

It’s very smoky here, due to on going fires. But God is awesome & they are getting under control. Good morning C & Cers 🎉

shayne's avatar

Good morning, Nikki

Karmy's avatar

Good morning Nikki!

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Good morning Karmy and God bless everyone!

JacquelineP's avatar

Saturday? I had to do a quick check that i hadn’t stumbled into the wrong issue… LOL…

NoVA mom's avatar

Sorry all……🫣

Dr Linda's avatar

It keeps us on our toes

Dori Chouhad's avatar

Had me questioning the day too.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Please tell me it’s Tuesday.

Margot Wooster's avatar

Alan, it is Tuesday. 😁

Bgagnon's avatar

It is in California! 😆

cds's avatar

I used to live in NOVA! Now Southport , NC! Retired!

Mary H.'s avatar

I lived in Caswell Beach in 2015. Love Southport and entire area.

NoVA mom's avatar

Originally from Jersey….in Loudoun County now…

Kate's avatar

Southport is beautiful! The movie Safe Haven (and probably others) was filmed there😊

shayne's avatar

We have rain, but it's Tuesday. 🤣 I had to look at calenda cos I'm always on the wrong day! You made me laugh.

Sunnydaze's avatar

This comment or question is based on my personal conversations with friends and family members, and random strangers (as I eavesdrop). Trump is boasting about the USA making all this money for us…tariffs, and restructuring deals, mineral deals, oil independence with so much oil we are now supplying other countries….the sheer staggering amount of fraud that is being halted which should fill our pockets with trillions as a country…the great tax breaks on tips and OT….then why hasn’t the cost of living decreased? Why has “my” economic picture stayed exactly the same since biden hijacked 2020?

The price of services to fix things, purchase a used car (or new), obviously gas and groceries, services for maintenance or replacing my AC or furnace, mechanics, medical care, water bill, electricity….then why is the cost of LIVING still as high as it was 5 years ago.

Where are all the trillions of dollars we are making as a country going??

Honest question.

Nobody has seen a dime of where this money is.

What do we say to that?

Juju's avatar

It takes time for trickle down effects. It’s only been 18 months and most of the wins took place in the past six. Patience. It WILL impact us for the good

Margot Wooster's avatar

Juj, I agree. Waiting is so hard though. The enemy constantly tries to get us doubt and be afraid.

Sunnydaze's avatar

I do understand that. I think the hard part is Trump speaks in the here and now. It’s unfortunate in that it makes him look like he’s lying. I don’t think he’s lying but 2+2 also needs to equal 4. How long is long enough? I don’t like being duped so I’m asking now to temper my expectations. Not everyone is AS patient. When Trump says food prices are down and gas is down…and the golden age is here…and America is wealthy again…..we’re all looking at each other saying “where? What is he talking about?” He hasn’t said….in 5 years the golden age will be here or whatever. We’re depleting our resources trying to hang on.

Juju's avatar

We depleted our resources under Biden. We’ve started to slowwwwwwly recoup since Trump took office. I think some people had a delayed impact from the Biden years and are equating it with Trump. But hourly laborers (previously middle class now lower class) feel it immediately and were destroyed due to Bidenomics.

We are barely hanging on ourselves, but had democrats maintained power we’d probably be bankrupt by now. It CAN be worse. It does take time for things to heal, and I see light at the end of the tunnel IF Congress doesn’t purposefully sabotage his economic agenda. Frankly what Trump did in only 12 months was spectacular. It would have taken a typical politician at least a decade to turn around what he did for our economy IF they wanted to even try. None did. But that turnaround takes time to reach everybody.

Sunnydaze's avatar

I do agree with what you are saying. And I wouldn’t have wanted any of those criminals in charge. If DJT hadn’t gotten in it would be way worse!

Leo's avatar

Sunnydaze, Good observations - it does look as tho he is lying. Would be tremendously helpful if he would explain about the time lag.

VelvetStitching's avatar

Once prices go up - it seems less likely they will go back down even when things improve!

LeadCPA's avatar

Agreed...a fact few understand. That is why inflation is so egregious.

Mayor's avatar

The main areas of price increases that I have noticed have been local property taxes (increased significantly), homeowners insurance (which has doubled to what it was 5 years ago), increase in electricity (maybe due to AI?), and of course, groceries.

Juju's avatar

All local taxation and laws, unrelated to anything the President does

Karen Bandy's avatar

All good points. Our homeowners insurance went up hundreds, I think it went up $900 this year alone, blamed it on wildfire risks, and sure enough we have very little snowpack and have had hardly any rain this year.

Last year our horrible dem governor allowed a Fire Districting map to be drawn, sent it to the insurance companies, and then our legislature? said they couldn’t use it, HA! Of course they used it. If you guessed Oregon you’re right.

Sunnydaze's avatar

If it helps….former Oregonian here….Floridian now….our home owners ins AND property taxes are double what they were when we moved here in 2020. And we have DeSantis. But as others mentioned….some of that is local local local. But. I will say what is usual and customary for local govts is also the problem until we get local leaders with the balls to stand up and say this is not right and we do not have to keep doing what we are doing just because that’s what everyone before me did.

Bgagnon's avatar

I thought CA but OR - well kissing’ cousins we are!

Karen Bandy's avatar

Where are you? I’m in Central Oregon.

Bgagnon's avatar

I'm in No CA and prices are crazy high. Hope we elect a different breed of gov this year and things start improving!

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Excellent questions, also it is time for gas prices to come down, especially since “we don’t import Iran’s oil” . The greed of oil companies needs to be addressed. Just saying 😉

LMWC's avatar
May 5Edited

Listen to the Glenn Beck explanation of high gas prices now. We are producing more crude oil now and selling it, but the light “sweet” crude found in places like Texas can not be refined in the U.S. for gasoline. We do not have the refineries in the U.S. for light crude oil refining. We haven’t built new refineries since the 1960’s. Therefore we sell our light crude to countries with refineries to refine the light crude and then buy the refined crude, (gasoline), back. This is supposed to settle down once the Strait is opened fully as that is also a bottle neck now.

SD Scott's avatar

Need to do so many more things in-house as it was decades ago!

Urgently.

Sunnydaze's avatar

I have had that explained to me as well, which makes sense. So why isn’t Trump talking about that? All we hear about is building data centers and AI stuff. How May people do not listen to Beck? As President why wouldn’t he talk to the whole country and explain this, and invest in refineries so we aren’t beholding to the other countries. Isn’t THAT his claim for us to be independent? Seems like he’s wasting our goodwill by not informing the public how things really work? It continues the division of D vs R on every single thing. It’s exhausting.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

Thanks for the heads up LMWC

BBS's avatar

I am not trying to be confrontational--honestly, I am not--but what is the explanation as to why we haven't built any refineries since the 60's?

LMWC's avatar

From what I read, for decades we were getting heavy crude mostly from Canada and Alaska. The refineries were built to handle those heavy crudes. When we started buying more oil from the Arab countries, (sweet crude), the refineries were over there, and it was cheap, so we never bothered to build those refineries here. The cost to build one of those now, would not be recouped for 30 years. No one’s going to do that.

When I was attending a small liberal art college in the mid 70’s. If you approached the town the college sat on the one side, from the opposite side, you had to pass a mid sized Leonard oil refinery. I never paid much attention other then on smelling it when the wind was right. Several years after I graduated, the refinery was closed. I remember reading how many people were losing good paying jobs with the close of it. If you drive by now, it is a vast fenced off, green scape with just a few shell buildings. Nothing can go there now.

NDCrouch's avatar

LWMC, what you say is correct, however, this is why PDJT announced that America First Refining is set to build a new $3.5 billion refinery at the Port of Brownsville, Texas. This will be processing the local Shale light crude into gasoline.

William Bogert's avatar

I worked in the industry the last 20 years. You do know the average profit margin is about 8% don't you? How much is your state and federal tax?

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I'm not really sure, but the city has a lot. It was explained several comments above that America hasn't built in new refineries since the 60's. Which is sad and explains a lot to me.

CK's avatar

The greed of oil companies? Is that you, Elizabeth Warren?

Lorita's avatar

Unfortunately I wonder too. My social security and my retirement had COL raises, but in no way shape or form does it match the real cost of living for retired people: home maintenance, all insurances, food, rents, shoes, gas. The food costs and home maintenance plague me the most. BUT thankfully with God's help we are hanging in there. Personally I want to see the Golden Age and the Kingdom com. Thank you for bringing this up JUST in case someone in the administration reads C&C.

Steve Stevens's avatar

And Trump's pick for the Fed wants to use different metrics to measure cost of living so he can have an excuse to lower rates and run the economy hot.

BBS's avatar
May 5Edited

Sunnydaze, I came here to say the exact same thing you just did. I am tired --and suspicious--of all the "good news." Given my personal economic situation, this "good news" is feeling more and more like full blown attempts at brainwashing. The cost of every day life is out of control.

Margot Wooster's avatar

My reply is really only for believers in Christ (and I hope you are one). I completely understand and share some of your concerns. God uses these times, and all times & circumstances, to sanctify His people. He wants us to trust HIM, not President Trump or any other human being or agency. Our nation needs major spiritual revival.

Sunnydaze's avatar

Our family is not putting our trust in DJT. We trust in The Lord Jesus. 💜 But that does not stop me from questioning what is happening in our country. 😉

Margot Wooster's avatar

Oh, I didn’t mean “don’t trust the president”, not at all! But, he is only human and is not perfect. I just meant trust God above all and in every circumstance.

R Kivenas's avatar

Agree. Though take into consideration the minimum wage increasing more than double and soon triple. Drives up the cost of everything. JM2C.

Matt L.'s avatar

US debt now exceeds GDP on a percent basis (debt just over 100% of GDP). In 2010-2011 US debt was only 85% of GDP. US is having to pay more and more to service its debt.

Argentina, after the US loan, still has inflation at 31.2%. This is ‘down’ from its peak of 289%.

Can you imagine 30% inflation in USA? We’d have an insurrection if that occurred. We’re still under 4% inflation rate for the time being, thankfully. However, if GDP doesn’t go to the moon, then we are in trouble given the amount of debt we’ve accumulated. As the government’s only tool in this scenario is printing more money.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Politicians have no intent to pay off our debt. Their only motive is to increase the GDP to improve that debt to GDP ratio-they freely admit to it. Which is why Trump wants to lower interest rates so he can run the economy hot. The only problem is, that increases inflation. But politicians are OK with that because the amount of inflation people pay is hard to quantify compared to an income tax. Which is why they call it the hidden tax.

Johnny-O's avatar

I heard an analyst last night state that about 13 months into the new admin, we added $1 Trillion to the debt, and in just the last 80 days, another trillion dollars. Mind blowing. Headlines are all about narrative control and perception management. Trump is spending like a drunken sailor.

Mike Gustine's avatar

So about the same as all previous Presidents since GW Bush. The more that things change, the more they stay the same.

Johnny-O's avatar

Yes, sadly. But the propaganda silo has made many around here think that Trump is tackling the deficit and we are winning economically, which couldn't be further from the truth.

Margot Wooster's avatar

??? What does Israel have to do with the question?

Arnold C Fossen's avatar

You can't fix things like that immediately or ever. You have to grow out of them, reduce the rate of inflation, and increase people's wages and purchasing power each year. It's unfortunate, but that is the way it is. It takes time.