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I was visiting visiting family last week. My 20 year old niece is having her 2nd baby soon. Her doc keeps hassling her about shots for their toddler and upcoming infant. Fortunately, despite her pink hair, tacky tats, and a nose ring, she (and all my family out there) are anti-vaxxers.
Somehow, despite everyone being low-rung class, high school drop outs working at restaurants and day cares, and being big cig smokers and nicotine-vapers, they are very suspicious of the shots. I was very impressed they didn't fall for it.
They are planning to buy a single-wide trailer and get down to one income so she can home school the kids. Again I was so astounded by decision making acuity regarding keeping 'the state' out of their business and being independent. We're going to help them as much as they need.
That is great news! Hat tip to them for being awake about vaxxes and education! 🙌
Of note, we’ve stopped vaxxing our dog too and now are getting harassed by the vet through texts, emails and now a voice mail that we’ve missed the “well” checkup, and 2 vax injections. I rolled my eyes. The vet must be desperate for money since all of us pet owners are waking up too.
We stopped vaxxing our pets about 9 years ago. They are 13 plus yrs old and still go for the long 1 hour walks in the morning. They obviously have some issues but we manage them with natural remedies that my sister makes in her kitchen using naturally wild harvested plants ...
I am not an expert, but when we decided on what went into our animals like dogs and say... rabies:
Is she likely to get it? If she is an indoor dog or a dog you have in your yard or out in the public on a leash, she probably will not encounter a rabid animal. If she is roaming the countryside or guarding a flock in a place where rabid animals are more common, she would get it.
When we lived in Florida our dogs got heartworm med. When we lived in WA where it is not a risk, she didn't get it.
I agree with you. I have 2 little lap dogs who are always on a leash or inside. I am not gonna vaxx them. I was told that I should because you never know....a rabid bat could get in my attic and then somehow fall into my house and infect my dogs. NOPE, NOT BUYING that scenario.
What she says here is incorrect regarding cats (dogs are a different matter). Cats are NOT required to get rabies vaccinations in all 50 states. I live in California and this is not a requirement here; many other states also do not require it. This seems like a useful site: https://rabiesaware.org/#infomation-by-state
I can't recall what he said about rabies shots for dogs as I only have cats - I will never have our indoor cat get another injection as long as she lives, nor will she get her yearly exams. We've been scammed about our pets all these years too. Trying to get my hubby on board about our two outdoor cats too. I do believe he will opt for a titer blood test before they get another rabies shot.
In our state of PA it is a law and if my dog would "run away" and they find him/her--I would have to pay a $500 fine for NOT having my dog vaccinated for rabies. That is the only vaccine I will now put in my furriend.
Yes, if rabies is a risk in your area. The last case in my county was decades ago. So my 18lb house dog is at very little risk. And they give the same dose to a little dog that they do to a 150lb mastiff. It’s wrong.
If they already have one, leave it at one. Not sure on whether or not to even take it to begin with....how likely is it your pet is going to get rabies in the first place?
I found out about Dr. Becker through another "furriend" person while walking my Maisy in a township park. I followed her advice for many years and still check out her website from time to time. Is she still "partnering" with Dr. Joseph Mercola (whom I also follow his holistic advice and buy some of his supplements regularly).
We have indoor cats. Other than their original shots, which we had no option to forgo, they haven’t been vaccinated. We did the same with our first group of cats as well. That was 24 years ago. When I was growing up, no one vaccinated their pets and they lived long and healthy lives mostly outside as long as they weren’t hit by cars or caught by coyotes. (I grew up in the country.) And most of them had neither issue. The last cat my mom had lived to be over 20 years old . . . Outside. 100% vaxx free. These vaccines are as much a cash cow for the vets as they are for the medical doctors.
My Precious a tuxedo blue will be 23 next week. Only had her kitten shots. She has been indoors always. Only give her Dr Bills (Amazon) health and joint supplements all natural since 16 which I believe has given her more yrs. 😻
I have an 18-year-old outdoor cat. (I am out in the country.) She grows a fur coat each winter and takes shelter in our enclosed pole shed from time to time. She was a great mouser in her younger days. And I never had a problem with moles or voles in the garden, come to think of it. She maybe received 1-2 rabies shots over her entire lifetime, around the time we had her fixed, I guess. Other than that, mother nature is her vet.
I wish the puppy-buyers would adopt instead. Millions of healthy animals are killed each year due to lack of good homes. Shelters are overrun & town shelters must euthanize to control space. The best animals are those whose lives you save. They love you unconditionally & are grateful forever.
I started rescuing my canine furriends (Maltese is my preferred breed) in 2010 - up until then, I only had a dog during my first marriage when my 2 sons were toddlers/babies. That dog was HUGE--half collie and half St. Bernard--and it was my husband's idea to "take it" from one of his co-workers who was trying to unload the pups. Poor guy - he never was trained--my husband had NO ken for dog training and I was totally busy caring for my 2 babies. Now...I adore Maltese and rescues are the only ones I could afford, as breeders charge upward of $1,500 for each puppy (no guarantees either that they'll make it to adulthood).
RESCUING IS SO WONDERFUL - and you're so right about MILLIONS of unwanted furriends being killed off because they were abandoned by their "people".
That very noble Julia, but I can’t afford the vet bills or the heart ache of an over vaccinated and desexed too young dog. I’d NEVER get a shelter dog due to their idiot policies. Those shelters really damage dogs with their one size fits all approach.
Also, just fyi for anyone reading this, there are certain dog breeds where a small percentage react badly to Ivermectin. It's a known issue. My inlaws miniature collie died from vet-prescribed Ivermectin because she turned out to be one of those dogs. It can be tested for, I believe
We bought a bottle of Ivermectin 1%, 100% sterile solution at a local vet during covid. (You can buy on Amazon as well). Also bought sterile syringes. The dosage we were given was 1mg per 10lbs, 1x per month. Draw it out of the bottle and put in a treat that will hold the tiny amount of liquid, such as bread.
On the rare occasion, my papillon had a few fleas, the vet recommended that I bath him in the basic blue Dawn. I had my doubts but it killed the fleas on contact!
I've used dr bronners unscented soap for decades for flea control in texas. any safe human product will be safe for dog. lather up leave on for 10 minutes or so. rinse off. rarely have to do more than twice a season.
Hello SQ, I had my 20+ pound Maine coon cat come back to the house, one day covered in black goo. I put a winter coat on, two layers of jeans, thick, socks, and gloves. Got my shampoo in a cup, Got the water temperature right in the shower, towels laid out, went outside and grabbed the cat, into the shower we both went. We both came out of the shower soaking wet. He was clean and I was unscathed.
How do you get around the registering and having to have the rabies vaccine? I would love to stop vaxxing my sweet boy, but worry about the registering part.
I haven't vaxxed mine in years. I got the mailing to and ignored. I had to take one in a couple of years ago because of face welling. They think a hornet stung my dog. Then they wanted to vax. They said it was time for a rabies vax and I declined. They pushed it and I made myself very clear the 2nd time. Then they tried to push the one for boarding and I let them know I've never boarded a pet in my life. I do think these vaccines are harming our pets just like they harm us.
I believe it. And it makes even more sense now that these elitist scumbags don't want us to own pets. Plus, they want to cull a massive number of livestock because muh climate change. The same manufactures of human vaccines also make the ones for pets. No money to be made if both are healthy. My last 2 Dalmatians I had years ago died from cancer about 15 years ago. I was always up on their care. That was so painful when I had to put them down, I didn't even want to ever have another pet. Then I went through years of my own medical hell due to military injuries. I didn't even want to be here anymore. I remember waking up beside this little puppy my wife brought home. That dog helped me get through a lot and she's lying beside me now. She's getting cranky in her old age but she's always been here for me. She's now getting old (14) and I'm not looking forward to this one leaving either.
Cats, too. They’ve started vaccinating in the tail because it’s easier to cut off if a cancerous growth happens. We used to have a homeopathic vet in the area, but I haven’t take either of my cats to the vet for probably 7 years now.
I believe it. When my son was a boy he lost his companion in life - his 4 year old golden retriever that got cancer. And we thought we’d been doing the right thing taking “Chewie” to the vet for shots. Makes me sick. My son went through some rough times when his dog being there could’ve made a big difference in his life.
Oh ya. When ours was 6 months old we took her to obedience training day schools. In order to go she had to have a flu shot (2 shots spaced apart)!! I was so mad. But I also wasn’t awake to this garbage like I am now. So she got the “flu” shots only so she could go to the classes. The place that did the training was great…. But we quit going because they were also bat $hit covid crazy and still masking up and making everyone else mask up. After the training we said no more and quit going. Knowing what I know now about the pet vaxx scams I would never have gone there, never done the shots and would have found somewhere else.
Getting a pup in Feb (maybe if all goes well with the birth, etc) and I have plans for puppy school, didn’t think about a flu shot. Heck, they don’t even know what this new flu is, how can they demand flu shots?
Just like covid and human flu shots, bad shots for the wrong strain is my guess.
I trained my dogs in obedience classes (many years ago when vaccinations were not required) and showed in AKC obedience trials. (Funny how there was not rampant illnesses with unvaccinated dogs at big dog shows and training classes back then, huh?🤔)
Although being in a class has advantages, to avoid injecting your dog I’d consider finding some good training books with pictures which would give you all the techniques needed for success. I suggest that you research and buy a couple of books now and study them before your pup arrives. Just an idea if other options fail you.
The wirehair is an unneutered male, zero problems he has no aggression, and the corgi female is spayed. Should I get a male? Leaning towards male. Two bitches can be bad.
I’m pretty good at training having done a lot of amateur level agility and I have a excellent list of 17 things to do for 17 weeks (something like that) I’ll print out it out now, good idea.
I think some of the pups will stay local, so we could have playdates, and we have a GWP and a 11 year old corgi girl who will help a lot with training.
Rabies, titers, yes aware, but the others, I better do a bunch of research! Thanks!
there are lots of excellent trainers that will come to your house and teach both you and the pup . prices are variable. be sure to find someone (usually a woman) who does positive training. all reward all the time. and keep in mind that you are asking your companion to learn english. so try to find someone who can teach you their language as well
Yes, we had one who would come to our house, but sadly he is retired. I’m sure there are others, but what I like about puppy classes is the socialization with other dogs.
Walking around town and Home Depot are really great opportunities for socialization too, but it’s mostly with humans.
Stopped vaxxing my cat when she was about 2 or 3. She just celebrated 19 1/2 years! (94 in people years) She survived a stroke early this year. I credit not being vaxxed for her longevity. Thankfully, my vet is ok with this.
Yes, all my previous kitties lived till 18 or 19. Maybe just baby shots. They were really well trained and went out during the day and came home at night.
My current two are six and have only had baby shots. They don’t go out. They have stronger instincts as they were barn kitties so I don’t let them out cuz I don’t trust them to come in. Lots of coyotes and owls here.
I also stopped vaccinating our indoor cats. All our past jabbed cats had serious illnesses- diabetes, cancers, kidney failure, etc. EXCEPT the cat we never vaccinated (he was allergic). That cat lived 22.5 years!
My daughters beloved cat died last night at age 4. Turned out the cat had heart problems and threw a blood clot. WTH? I’ve also known animals that had breast cancer and other cancers. How does anyone think this is normal? That Overton window needs one big push. The emergency vet bill was over $4,000. and my daughter is heartbroken.
I’m so sorry for you and your daughter. It isn’t normal. They want us to think it is. They’ve been successful until we started waking up. We need to push back now.
And Sunny there’s actual research studies by DVM’s Dr. Ronald Schultz and Dr. Jean Dodds showing ONE core DHP (distemper/hepatitis/parvo) at 16 weeks last nearly ALL dogs their entire lifetime. Rabies is another scam. Your vets get ONE. But our pets are supposed to get 1 at 6mos 1yr and then every three years to be legal in most states. The case of rabies in my county was decades ago, so my dog has never had one. If you don’t register your pet, it’s easy to fly under their radar. She’s almost 7 and super healthy. She’s never needed a vet. I brush her teeth every night too and they’re still pearly white.
I love that! I agree with the register part too. My dog has teeth issues. I’m working on brushing them but she will have nothing to do with it. Trying to find ways to deal with that so we can avoid any vet needs. Just started giving her marrow bones to help. Any tips to the brushing issue you wanna pass on?
After losing 2 dogs to cancer, I stopped as well and began feeding raw ground meat instead of dry food. My oldest just turned 17 and looks better than ever.
I can get ground venison, bison, elk at my local Sprouts, HEB, and Target. Those seem to be just full of protein-super healthy smelling. I also use human grade ground beef, turkey and chicken. I used to cook for them, but they really thrive on the raw meat. I do supplement with some dry food-plain old Beneful when they act "still hungry" and soak that with some bone broth.
stopped all vet visits,20 + years ago, including heartworm 'meds' and flea treatments which warn the person to avoid any contact with powder, shampoo etc. but I'm going to put it all over my dog and then let him lick himself? think not. all an animal needs is a healthy immune system provided by non toxic dog food (by products mean the tumors that are trimmed off people food) lots of time with their human pack and outside exercise. I very reluctantly do 3 year rabies shot only because a dog w/o can face prison time and compulsory shot.
I’m glad people are taking matter in their own hands. Hopefully more docs and vets will realize that siding with corrupt CDC may cost them their business. We truly need to have market forces reign instead of forcing people to use these products.
I have 2 different family members who do the vet trips. One kitten almost died after shots....but they kept on vaxxing. Both dogs have the most health issues, one requiring several hundred dollars a month of medications. I have no doubt that they are a part of the endless cycle of the Vet wheel of Fortune.....you make the vet a fortune while u go broke.
We don't go to the doctor unless we are extremely sick and natural cures aren't working. We definitely don't take our pets unless something is broken, bleeding, or life is on the line. Our family, both the people and pets, are healthier from just avoiding the doctors.
I would love to find one to give an exemption. I can’t even find a good human doc though. 🤯
I just watched a vet give a talk on rabies shots. And the example used was the exact breed I have. They are prone to heart issues anyway and by giving them yearly rabies vaxxes we are increasing the rate and ages they will start having these. 😔
Luckily if I can’t find a vet to give exemption we have already decided no more shots. Period.
Home remedies and raw feeding have saved me from even needing a vet. Colloidal silver for eye or ear infections and D mannose with urine test strips in case of UTI and brushing their teeth makes for a pretty healthy dog.
I JUST got colloidal silver for us. That’s good to know about the eyes an ears too for my dog. I haven’t introduced the raw food diet simply because it will gross me out. But I’ve been contemplating a partially raw diet. She does currently love eating my raw veggies out of my garden. She eats cucumbers, cabbage, green peppers, and carrots. She comes and stands right next to me when I’m cutting up the veggies and waits for her turn. 😂
Do it! I feed our dog 1 lb raw chicken legs and 24 oz of rice/beets/carrots/sweet potatoes/apples/green beans/coconut oil, basically whatever I have on hand. She's a 75lb lab mix. She had seizures earlier this year and the vet told us she needed an expensive med, we decided to find her a good multivitamin and switched to raw food. We won't go back to processed. I grind and mix her food if we can't feed her outside, otherwise I just toss it all in her bowl. She always picks the chicken legs up and moves them somewhere else if they're whole. Kind of a problem if inside..
Our friend/breeder says one rabies....if any.... She also recommends against the vaccines due to an "astounding increase in maladies." She also recommends goat dewormer for dogs... Our daughter has a holistic vet in the Tampa area who agrees with the breeder and writes exemptions for vaccines. We are going to start using her because, she will answer her phone and will save us much grief and $$$$$!
Should I get a rabies booster for my 13 year old pap? The three years is up. I have a baby grandchild now and a the 5 pound dog is very jealous. What if she bit her?
I have a cousin who has always been far-left. I've always been far-right. I'm pretty sure she's the one who has changed the most, but we see eye-to-eye on so many things now. It's very strange.
Do you have any good links to info about Hunga Tonga? I tried to explain it to some carbon climate change cultists in my circle of friends, but it was too “far right” for their brains to comprehend!
I was visiting visiting family last week. My 20 year old niece is having her 2nd baby soon. Her doc keeps hassling her about shots for their toddler and upcoming infant. Fortunately, despite her pink hair, tacky tats, and a nose ring, she (and all my family out there) are anti-vaxxers.
Somehow, despite everyone being low-rung class, high school drop outs working at restaurants and day cares, and being big cig smokers and nicotine-vapers, they are very suspicious of the shots. I was very impressed they didn't fall for it.
They are planning to buy a single-wide trailer and get down to one income so she can home school the kids. Again I was so astounded by decision making acuity regarding keeping 'the state' out of their business and being independent. We're going to help them as much as they need.
There is hope for the future!
That is great news! Hat tip to them for being awake about vaxxes and education! 🙌
Of note, we’ve stopped vaxxing our dog too and now are getting harassed by the vet through texts, emails and now a voice mail that we’ve missed the “well” checkup, and 2 vax injections. I rolled my eyes. The vet must be desperate for money since all of us pet owners are waking up too.
Cash cow - $0
Awakened pet owners - $hundreds
We stopped vaxxing our pets about 9 years ago. They are 13 plus yrs old and still go for the long 1 hour walks in the morning. They obviously have some issues but we manage them with natural remedies that my sister makes in her kitchen using naturally wild harvested plants ...
Wonderful.
I’m getting a puppy this spring and will use the no nonsense advice from vet Dr Karen Becker on Dr Mercola’s website.
What is the advice per rabies vax?
I am not an expert, but when we decided on what went into our animals like dogs and say... rabies:
Is she likely to get it? If she is an indoor dog or a dog you have in your yard or out in the public on a leash, she probably will not encounter a rabid animal. If she is roaming the countryside or guarding a flock in a place where rabid animals are more common, she would get it.
When we lived in Florida our dogs got heartworm med. When we lived in WA where it is not a risk, she didn't get it.
I agree with you. I have 2 little lap dogs who are always on a leash or inside. I am not gonna vaxx them. I was told that I should because you never know....a rabid bat could get in my attic and then somehow fall into my house and infect my dogs. NOPE, NOT BUYING that scenario.
Also? when I lived in NY, I did heartworm in the summer and stopped in the winter.
Below is Dr Becker’s advice; you don’t have to have a Facebook account to view.
https://www.facebook.com/doctor.karen.becker/videos/my-advice-on-rabies-vaccination/10155001939567748/
You can get a rabies titer.
What she says here is incorrect regarding cats (dogs are a different matter). Cats are NOT required to get rabies vaccinations in all 50 states. I live in California and this is not a requirement here; many other states also do not require it. This seems like a useful site: https://rabiesaware.org/#infomation-by-state
Here's the current laws for pet vaccinations.
https://www.animallaw.info/content/rabies-vaccination-and-exemption-laws-dogs
Bad laws were meant to be broken. Your vet gets one and done. So should our pets.
That’s what I want to know too.
Sunnydaze - this might be helpful. Veterinarian Dr. Dym was recently interviewed by Del Bigtree:
https://thehighwire.com/ark-videos/pet-health-the-holistic-way/
I can't recall what he said about rabies shots for dogs as I only have cats - I will never have our indoor cat get another injection as long as she lives, nor will she get her yearly exams. We've been scammed about our pets all these years too. Trying to get my hubby on board about our two outdoor cats too. I do believe he will opt for a titer blood test before they get another rabies shot.
In our state of PA it is a law and if my dog would "run away" and they find him/her--I would have to pay a $500 fine for NOT having my dog vaccinated for rabies. That is the only vaccine I will now put in my furriend.
I will checkout laws. TY
I think that’s the one vaxx animals should definitely get.
Yes, if rabies is a risk in your area. The last case in my county was decades ago. So my 18lb house dog is at very little risk. And they give the same dose to a little dog that they do to a 150lb mastiff. It’s wrong.
If they already have one, leave it at one. Not sure on whether or not to even take it to begin with....how likely is it your pet is going to get rabies in the first place?
Depends on your area. It’s non existent in mine, so I’m not doing it.
Yes, I've listened to her interview with Dr. Mercola, it's awesome. Good luck with your new puppy!
I found out about Dr. Becker through another "furriend" person while walking my Maisy in a township park. I followed her advice for many years and still check out her website from time to time. Is she still "partnering" with Dr. Joseph Mercola (whom I also follow his holistic advice and buy some of his supplements regularly).
Yes, she is partnered with Dr Mercola.
Wonderful! Thank you, Pamela.
Pamela, I might also be getting a puppy this February (they’re due this week 👏🏻). Would love to avoid the shots!
Me too.
What breed are you getting?
I’m on the list for a Schnoodle. 😊
A corgi. It will be my 4th and I’ve never had two at once. I’m very excited!
I’m not sure I’ve seen that combo, I wish we could share pics here, but we’d never get through the comments 🤣
Thanks for sharing the info on the info on Dr. Karen Becker. I get all of my vitamins and health supplements from Dr. Mercola.
I enjoy reading the latest health articles from Dr. Mercola.
We have indoor cats. Other than their original shots, which we had no option to forgo, they haven’t been vaccinated. We did the same with our first group of cats as well. That was 24 years ago. When I was growing up, no one vaccinated their pets and they lived long and healthy lives mostly outside as long as they weren’t hit by cars or caught by coyotes. (I grew up in the country.) And most of them had neither issue. The last cat my mom had lived to be over 20 years old . . . Outside. 100% vaxx free. These vaccines are as much a cash cow for the vets as they are for the medical doctors.
My Precious a tuxedo blue will be 23 next week. Only had her kitten shots. She has been indoors always. Only give her Dr Bills (Amazon) health and joint supplements all natural since 16 which I believe has given her more yrs. 😻
I will have to check that out. And how amazing! 23 is a long, long life for a cat. ❤️
I have an 18-year-old outdoor cat. (I am out in the country.) She grows a fur coat each winter and takes shelter in our enclosed pole shed from time to time. She was a great mouser in her younger days. And I never had a problem with moles or voles in the garden, come to think of it. She maybe received 1-2 rabies shots over her entire lifetime, around the time we had her fixed, I guess. Other than that, mother nature is her vet.
I wish the puppy-buyers would adopt instead. Millions of healthy animals are killed each year due to lack of good homes. Shelters are overrun & town shelters must euthanize to control space. The best animals are those whose lives you save. They love you unconditionally & are grateful forever.
I started rescuing my canine furriends (Maltese is my preferred breed) in 2010 - up until then, I only had a dog during my first marriage when my 2 sons were toddlers/babies. That dog was HUGE--half collie and half St. Bernard--and it was my husband's idea to "take it" from one of his co-workers who was trying to unload the pups. Poor guy - he never was trained--my husband had NO ken for dog training and I was totally busy caring for my 2 babies. Now...I adore Maltese and rescues are the only ones I could afford, as breeders charge upward of $1,500 for each puppy (no guarantees either that they'll make it to adulthood).
RESCUING IS SO WONDERFUL - and you're so right about MILLIONS of unwanted furriends being killed off because they were abandoned by their "people".
Absolutely agree.
And I wish those who think they need to kill their babies would instead place them for adoption
That very noble Julia, but I can’t afford the vet bills or the heart ache of an over vaccinated and desexed too young dog. I’d NEVER get a shelter dog due to their idiot policies. Those shelters really damage dogs with their one size fits all approach.
This is the exact protocol that we have used for over a decade. 1 DHP vaccine @ 16 weeks.
https://www.dogsnaturallymagazine.com/taking-the-risk-out-of-puppy-shots/
Smart. Any thing for fleas? I won't use the toxic collars or "meds". I rather hate the little buggers!
Our dear friend who is also a breeder recommended/ suggested Ivermectin. We give it monthly. No fleas or ticks.
Internally or topically?
Also, just fyi for anyone reading this, there are certain dog breeds where a small percentage react badly to Ivermectin. It's a known issue. My inlaws miniature collie died from vet-prescribed Ivermectin because she turned out to be one of those dogs. It can be tested for, I believe
Liquid... put it on a piece of sourdough bread... munches it right down
Any idea how much for a large cat? Great suggestion, BTW! Thank you.
We bought a bottle of Ivermectin 1%, 100% sterile solution at a local vet during covid. (You can buy on Amazon as well). Also bought sterile syringes. The dosage we were given was 1mg per 10lbs, 1x per month. Draw it out of the bottle and put in a treat that will hold the tiny amount of liquid, such as bread.
I will ask. I did notice heartworm meds for cats is ivermectin..
On the rare occasion, my papillon had a few fleas, the vet recommended that I bath him in the basic blue Dawn. I had my doubts but it killed the fleas on contact!
I have a Pap too! 🩷
Thank you for the suggestion. The problem is the bathing part. I do use Dawn and water on the flea comb. Bath, bath, bath.
I've used dr bronners unscented soap for decades for flea control in texas. any safe human product will be safe for dog. lather up leave on for 10 minutes or so. rinse off. rarely have to do more than twice a season.
Another good idea. But bathing a cat is perilous. Especially my 12 pounders! Hmmm, how to do this...Thanks!
Hello SQ, I had my 20+ pound Maine coon cat come back to the house, one day covered in black goo. I put a winter coat on, two layers of jeans, thick, socks, and gloves. Got my shampoo in a cup, Got the water temperature right in the shower, towels laid out, went outside and grabbed the cat, into the shower we both went. We both came out of the shower soaking wet. He was clean and I was unscathed.
I thought rabies vaxx was law in every state. I dont for my cats, because they are strictly indoors.
Bad laws were meant to be broken.
How do you get around the registering and having to have the rabies vaccine? I would love to stop vaxxing my sweet boy, but worry about the registering part.
I’ve never registered my animals in 34 years. My cats are 100% indoors. My dogs are watched. I don’t let them run wild.
I haven't vaxxed mine in years. I got the mailing to and ignored. I had to take one in a couple of years ago because of face welling. They think a hornet stung my dog. Then they wanted to vax. They said it was time for a rabies vax and I declined. They pushed it and I made myself very clear the 2nd time. Then they tried to push the one for boarding and I let them know I've never boarded a pet in my life. I do think these vaccines are harming our pets just like they harm us.
It’s the reason imo 50% of all dogs get cancer.
I believe it. And it makes even more sense now that these elitist scumbags don't want us to own pets. Plus, they want to cull a massive number of livestock because muh climate change. The same manufactures of human vaccines also make the ones for pets. No money to be made if both are healthy. My last 2 Dalmatians I had years ago died from cancer about 15 years ago. I was always up on their care. That was so painful when I had to put them down, I didn't even want to ever have another pet. Then I went through years of my own medical hell due to military injuries. I didn't even want to be here anymore. I remember waking up beside this little puppy my wife brought home. That dog helped me get through a lot and she's lying beside me now. She's getting cranky in her old age but she's always been here for me. She's now getting old (14) and I'm not looking forward to this one leaving either.
Cats, too. They’ve started vaccinating in the tail because it’s easier to cut off if a cancerous growth happens. We used to have a homeopathic vet in the area, but I haven’t take either of my cats to the vet for probably 7 years now.
I believe it. When my son was a boy he lost his companion in life - his 4 year old golden retriever that got cancer. And we thought we’d been doing the right thing taking “Chewie” to the vet for shots. Makes me sick. My son went through some rough times when his dog being there could’ve made a big difference in his life.
We live across the street from a vet and I cannot believe that they are pushing flu shots for pets. I can hardly wrap my brain around it.
You are not expected, nor desired, to wrap your brain around it. Only your pocketbook. From a non-pet-owner.
Good point...just blindly do as they say.
Oh ya. When ours was 6 months old we took her to obedience training day schools. In order to go she had to have a flu shot (2 shots spaced apart)!! I was so mad. But I also wasn’t awake to this garbage like I am now. So she got the “flu” shots only so she could go to the classes. The place that did the training was great…. But we quit going because they were also bat $hit covid crazy and still masking up and making everyone else mask up. After the training we said no more and quit going. Knowing what I know now about the pet vaxx scams I would never have gone there, never done the shots and would have found somewhere else.
I'm glad we know better now...that's one of the positive things that came out of COVID...the curtain was pulled back and we saw what was behind it.
Getting a pup in Feb (maybe if all goes well with the birth, etc) and I have plans for puppy school, didn’t think about a flu shot. Heck, they don’t even know what this new flu is, how can they demand flu shots?
Just like covid and human flu shots, bad shots for the wrong strain is my guess.
I trained my dogs in obedience classes (many years ago when vaccinations were not required) and showed in AKC obedience trials. (Funny how there was not rampant illnesses with unvaccinated dogs at big dog shows and training classes back then, huh?🤔)
Although being in a class has advantages, to avoid injecting your dog I’d consider finding some good training books with pictures which would give you all the techniques needed for success. I suggest that you research and buy a couple of books now and study them before your pup arrives. Just an idea if other options fail you.
I didn’t know a long time ago that dogs weren’t vaccinated, just assumed everyone did that in the last 30+ years 🤔
The wirehair is an unneutered male, zero problems he has no aggression, and the corgi female is spayed. Should I get a male? Leaning towards male. Two bitches can be bad.
I’m pretty good at training having done a lot of amateur level agility and I have a excellent list of 17 things to do for 17 weeks (something like that) I’ll print out it out now, good idea.
I think some of the pups will stay local, so we could have playdates, and we have a GWP and a 11 year old corgi girl who will help a lot with training.
Rabies, titers, yes aware, but the others, I better do a bunch of research! Thanks!
there are lots of excellent trainers that will come to your house and teach both you and the pup . prices are variable. be sure to find someone (usually a woman) who does positive training. all reward all the time. and keep in mind that you are asking your companion to learn english. so try to find someone who can teach you their language as well
Yes, we had one who would come to our house, but sadly he is retired. I’m sure there are others, but what I like about puppy classes is the socialization with other dogs.
Walking around town and Home Depot are really great opportunities for socialization too, but it’s mostly with humans.
Double check with the puppy school. Not all of them will require it I don’t think.
Will do! I hope you’re right!
That would be the new “mysterious respiratory outbreak in dogs”
The head of Pfizer ...Bourla is a Vet.
There is big money in those jabs!
When I say pushing the shots, I mean it's literally on their street sign.
I heard a comedian recently use the line “whiter than a $1000 vet bill”. Great stuff
Vet bills seem to have become more expensive than people doctors.
A vet would see a 30% drop in their income if people stopped vaccinating.
I wonder if the same is true of pediatricians and "well" visits.
That's crazy.
Stopped vaxxing my cat when she was about 2 or 3. She just celebrated 19 1/2 years! (94 in people years) She survived a stroke early this year. I credit not being vaxxed for her longevity. Thankfully, my vet is ok with this.
Yes, all my previous kitties lived till 18 or 19. Maybe just baby shots. They were really well trained and went out during the day and came home at night.
My current two are six and have only had baby shots. They don’t go out. They have stronger instincts as they were barn kitties so I don’t let them out cuz I don’t trust them to come in. Lots of coyotes and owls here.
I also stopped vaccinating our indoor cats. All our past jabbed cats had serious illnesses- diabetes, cancers, kidney failure, etc. EXCEPT the cat we never vaccinated (he was allergic). That cat lived 22.5 years!
And I would call THAT a legit clinical trial.
My daughters beloved cat died last night at age 4. Turned out the cat had heart problems and threw a blood clot. WTH? I’ve also known animals that had breast cancer and other cancers. How does anyone think this is normal? That Overton window needs one big push. The emergency vet bill was over $4,000. and my daughter is heartbroken.
I’m so sorry for you and your daughter. It isn’t normal. They want us to think it is. They’ve been successful until we started waking up. We need to push back now.
I'm so sorry, wow.
We're right there with you! No vaxes for our dogs for the last 7 years.
And Sunny there’s actual research studies by DVM’s Dr. Ronald Schultz and Dr. Jean Dodds showing ONE core DHP (distemper/hepatitis/parvo) at 16 weeks last nearly ALL dogs their entire lifetime. Rabies is another scam. Your vets get ONE. But our pets are supposed to get 1 at 6mos 1yr and then every three years to be legal in most states. The case of rabies in my county was decades ago, so my dog has never had one. If you don’t register your pet, it’s easy to fly under their radar. She’s almost 7 and super healthy. She’s never needed a vet. I brush her teeth every night too and they’re still pearly white.
I love that! I agree with the register part too. My dog has teeth issues. I’m working on brushing them but she will have nothing to do with it. Trying to find ways to deal with that so we can avoid any vet needs. Just started giving her marrow bones to help. Any tips to the brushing issue you wanna pass on?
So I dont need to booster my 13 year old for rabies? She is protected? (had all the rabies shots and 3 year boosters until now).
After losing 2 dogs to cancer, I stopped as well and began feeding raw ground meat instead of dry food. My oldest just turned 17 and looks better than ever.
Can you tell me more what you feed? What ground meat? What else do you include?
I can get ground venison, bison, elk at my local Sprouts, HEB, and Target. Those seem to be just full of protein-super healthy smelling. I also use human grade ground beef, turkey and chicken. I used to cook for them, but they really thrive on the raw meat. I do supplement with some dry food-plain old Beneful when they act "still hungry" and soak that with some bone broth.
Omg same. They tried to scare me into a rabies vax for my 12 yr old indoor cat 🙄🙄🙄 like I’m that stupid.
stopped all vet visits,20 + years ago, including heartworm 'meds' and flea treatments which warn the person to avoid any contact with powder, shampoo etc. but I'm going to put it all over my dog and then let him lick himself? think not. all an animal needs is a healthy immune system provided by non toxic dog food (by products mean the tumors that are trimmed off people food) lots of time with their human pack and outside exercise. I very reluctantly do 3 year rabies shot only because a dog w/o can face prison time and compulsory shot.
The only shot we are getting our golden retriever pup is the rabies vaxx!
I'm proud of you too!
I’m glad people are taking matter in their own hands. Hopefully more docs and vets will realize that siding with corrupt CDC may cost them their business. We truly need to have market forces reign instead of forcing people to use these products.
I have 2 different family members who do the vet trips. One kitten almost died after shots....but they kept on vaxxing. Both dogs have the most health issues, one requiring several hundred dollars a month of medications. I have no doubt that they are a part of the endless cycle of the Vet wheel of Fortune.....you make the vet a fortune while u go broke.
We don't go to the doctor unless we are extremely sick and natural cures aren't working. We definitely don't take our pets unless something is broken, bleeding, or life is on the line. Our family, both the people and pets, are healthier from just avoiding the doctors.
I would love to find one to give an exemption. I can’t even find a good human doc though. 🤯
I just watched a vet give a talk on rabies shots. And the example used was the exact breed I have. They are prone to heart issues anyway and by giving them yearly rabies vaxxes we are increasing the rate and ages they will start having these. 😔
Luckily if I can’t find a vet to give exemption we have already decided no more shots. Period.
Home remedies and raw feeding have saved me from even needing a vet. Colloidal silver for eye or ear infections and D mannose with urine test strips in case of UTI and brushing their teeth makes for a pretty healthy dog.
I JUST got colloidal silver for us. That’s good to know about the eyes an ears too for my dog. I haven’t introduced the raw food diet simply because it will gross me out. But I’ve been contemplating a partially raw diet. She does currently love eating my raw veggies out of my garden. She eats cucumbers, cabbage, green peppers, and carrots. She comes and stands right next to me when I’m cutting up the veggies and waits for her turn. 😂
Do it! I feed our dog 1 lb raw chicken legs and 24 oz of rice/beets/carrots/sweet potatoes/apples/green beans/coconut oil, basically whatever I have on hand. She's a 75lb lab mix. She had seizures earlier this year and the vet told us she needed an expensive med, we decided to find her a good multivitamin and switched to raw food. We won't go back to processed. I grind and mix her food if we can't feed her outside, otherwise I just toss it all in her bowl. She always picks the chicken legs up and moves them somewhere else if they're whole. Kind of a problem if inside..
You dont need it yearly! Many vets are adhering to the 3 year shot.
Virginia has 3 year rabies shots, I guess they are all the same dose and some states decided it would last more years.
A vaccine that works does not need to be given constantly….
Our friend/breeder says one rabies....if any.... She also recommends against the vaccines due to an "astounding increase in maladies." She also recommends goat dewormer for dogs... Our daughter has a holistic vet in the Tampa area who agrees with the breeder and writes exemptions for vaccines. We are going to start using her because, she will answer her phone and will save us much grief and $$$$$!
Should I get a rabies booster for my 13 year old pap? The three years is up. I have a baby grandchild now and a the 5 pound dog is very jealous. What if she bit her?
Even animal medicine is corrupt. 🦮
The Dems are really opening eyes, aren't they?
I have a cousin who has always been far-left. I've always been far-right. I'm pretty sure she's the one who has changed the most, but we see eye-to-eye on so many things now. It's very strange.
I'm seeing the same. On this last family visit, my TDS-infected sister is now neutral on Trump and 'immigration'.
A close family member is still nutzo on everything, Except now, acknowledges the effects of Hunga Tonga and no longer rants about climate.
Hey! Progress is progress!
Baby steps! 😁
Do you have any good links to info about Hunga Tonga? I tried to explain it to some carbon climate change cultists in my circle of friends, but it was too “far right” for their brains to comprehend!
Here’s one:
https://wattsupwiththat.com/2023/08/05/record-global-temperatures-driven-by-hunga-tonga-volcanic-water-vapor-visualized/
Wattsupwiththat dot com is a great site for all things climate!