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BBS's avatar

What I don't get is how is there even a case when there are no victims. The banks got their money back with interest and they were paid back early. Supposedly, they wanted to do MORE business with Trump. The banks have their own appraisers--those are the figures bankers use to determine loans. It shouldn't matter what Trump said his properties were worth. So with no victim, who is this 365 million, or whatever it is, supposed to be paid to?

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BBS's avatar

Off topic, maybe, but this weekend I happened to see a blurb from CNN commentators and it got me thinking. My grandfather was born in the late 1890's in Poland and came to this country in his early 20's. Late in his life, he said he saw Communists coming out of the tv. At the time , we thought he was senile. Now, I wonder if he wasn't prescient.

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Gotmoxie's avatar

Back in 2008-9, many Americans born in Poland, Russia, under Nazi Germany, etc., were alarmed at the political discussions, especially about ObanaCare. They recognized the same signs they had escaped from! Pay attention when they speak out!

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Kathy's avatar

Some of the eastern block countries are our last hope at preventing the heinous WHO pandemic updated “International Health Regulations”. They recognize totalitarianism when they see it. In case you think our constitution will protect us, I think of the last few years. They acted like it didn’t exist. They ignored the Nuremberg code. They leave our border a disaster while we send 130 billion to proxy wars to fund the war machine and to enrich all the Congress people who have stock with military contractors. When they take office, they should be forced to sell stock like that or be excluded for voting on funding wars.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

How true.

Now I don’t have to worry that I see Communists coming out of our political and judicial representatives.

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CH's avatar

The stuff we watch on tv is called a "program".

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chuck kutchera's avatar

And when they repeat the same drivel, propaganda.

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Christy's avatar

We watched a documentary on the group of men who killed the most Jews. It was terrifying to watch, but it reminds me of covidians. Those monsters/ sheeple walk among us!

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chuck kutchera's avatar

Or was your grandfather a prophet?

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BBS's avatar

Thanks for the laugh. Actually, he was scary mean--never spoke a word of English. Yelled all the time. He didn't like kids which was really too bad, having 7 of his own and 18 grandchildren.

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Susan Clack's avatar

I just saw something on FB about Lucille Ball (who DIDN’T love Lucy back then) being a registered Communist in her younger days…she flew under the UnAmericsn Activity committee & Joe McCarthy because she was J Edgar Hoover’s favorite Hollyweird star. But WHY were all those actors Commies? How could they have found Communism so preferable to the cushy life they were living? There must have been extremely seductive agents selling the Communist toothpaste after the Bolsheviks took over…

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Sherry 1's avatar

He saw the bobble heads on MSM.

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rolandttg's avatar

Once again, there is not need to overthink this insane case and verdict. You only need to remember one simple fact. There is no longer any rule of law in this country, and they want you to know that, because they want you to give up and accept the dictatorship. As Trump said over and over. "They are coming after you. I'm just in the way".

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SadieJay's avatar

100% rolandttg.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Does Pres T have enough money to keep fighting these lawsuits? Posting $450MM to appeal? Then still lose the 10% $45MM bond fee even if he “wins”? What a scam.

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David A's avatar

Lets get Trump a billion plus dollars.

So Trump has a 45 million dollar peanallty regardless. Wow, and there is no way to go after the judge?

I hope the trucker protest has legs. Dont forget the escalator ride,

"They are coming after you. I'm just in the way". Donald Trump, who donated all his Presedential salary.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Based on prior multipliers, maybe 10 multipliers could raise 1MM over 10 months at 1 per month.

Yea that last quote is probably more accurate than we know.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Would be amazing if big influencers like Brand and Tucker would put up large amounts.

*LOL not bug

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James D Teel II's avatar

The plan is to bankrupt him.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes and maybe multiple goals: bankruptcy, emotional crippling , humiliation, destruction of business, character assassination, incarceration. I’ve never seen anything like this in our politics. Especially a former President and current candidate.

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RU's avatar

More than current candidate. Current frontrunner in the general election, leading Biden in polling, and likely legitimate winner of the last election. In all likelihood he is the actual current legitimate President. They stole the 2020 election and they are trying to do it again this year. They want him to give up and leave the race. That is what all of this lawfare has been about. We are essentially the USSR now. Thanks to "liberals."

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yeup. Bankrupt him so he can’t run for Pres

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Susan Clack's avatar

More like bankrupt him FOREVER..as in total destruction. Evil.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

10% for the big guy.

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CeeMcG's avatar

I think Trump will be okay. He’s slated to make around $4B off his Truth Social merger, since he owns 58% (I think) of the stock.

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J Kaz's avatar

Yes, I would like to know who the victim was and where does that money go?

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Roger Beal's avatar

Likely much of it is earmarked for Kathy Hochul's discretionary use. Gotta fund new bennies for NY "migrants".

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Kathy's avatar

And for pandemic internment camps.

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Roger Beal's avatar

The Motel Six for 2024!

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Beckadee's avatar

And perhaps E Jean Carroll's $83 million gets divvied up back to Reid Hoffman so he can spread it around. Hell of a way to fundraise.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Or the NYC Mayor fund. He's whining about the illegals.

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Roger Beal's avatar

We just cannot satisfy Eric Adams. He asked Santa Claus to make NYC a "sanctuary city", he got his wish .... Now he gripes about too many migrants? What a fussy little man.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Have you noticed he went silent immediately after the FBI told him they knew about his dealings with Turkey? He was pulled out of his limo and the FBI asked for all his devices. That's the last time he has complained about illegals taking over his city.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Typical of big city Ds. 😂

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Jennifer's avatar

The $354 million question!

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phlyme's avatar

Good question. I’ve been wondering myself where that fine would go.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Democrat coffers. Not coffins

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David A's avatar

Trump gave higher than market prices due to the added value of his Name, a real valuation factor that banks do not consider.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Good point.

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BBS's avatar

It's all politics, all the time. Why don't the banks grow a pair and come out, saying publicly they were in no way victims of fraud?

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David A's avatar

They did in public court.

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BBS's avatar

Which is great, but I want to hear an interview with someone from Newsmax or Fox. MSM would never cover it; neither would "Look- at -how- fair -I- am" Bill Maher.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I was thinking the banks should put up the bond, then return the fee when he wins.

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David A's avatar

They have a fujiciary responsability to their institution.

We are Donald Trump.}

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I had that same wondery this morning, reading of Ugly Engy's $$ decision. His own bank account via a circuitous route?

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Two tiered justice system and dem dems don’t want Trump to win

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's my question as well. Who is the recipient of all this money? NYC? Using it to buoy up their bankrupt city?

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Exactly. What is the actual charge ?

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Karen's avatar

I am wondering the same thing! Just who will be getting these ""damages"? When no one was damaged?

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Roger Beal's avatar

Kommandant Hochul has found a new source of funding for her progressive policies.

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Jude Zentmeyer's avatar

That is my question, who is going to benefit from this massive fine, if inforced?

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