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Joni's avatar

I’ll never rely on anything a doctor says these days! They are wrong too often and barely do their jobs anymore, plus they are still pushing these jabs!!! They haven’t learned anything from all the dead and injured patients, nor do they care to! Malpractice is a thing of the past now so everything goes! My neighbor died about six years ago from sepsis. She was elderly and should have been kept in the hospital for more evaluations. They sent her home and she died the next morning from sepsis….surprise surprise. Everyone really need to pay attention to the health of their families and themselves!! I’ve cared for my parents for ten years and it wasn’t the doctors who kept them healthy and alive! Plus my dad died from heart issues in August 2021 that were caused by them overdosing him on Amiodorone in 2019, and yet in 2021 the idiot doctor tried to do it again. I discovered it and challenged it, but it had already damaged his heart, but at least it stopped the other damage to his other organs. The doctor refused to acknowledge what they did and said if he didn’t keep taking the toxic medication then he would no longer see him! I found a new cardiologist that confirmed he was overdosed! Same goes for diagnosis my mom received. Plus many hospitals don’t care now if they had a reaction to a medication! If they want to give it, then dammit, they will damn well do it, except when they have an advocate that stops it!! Be ready to fight folks! I had to also do this for my husband in 2022….they wanted to kill him for the covid dollars….we stopped it!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Often an internet search will find more info than what the docs want to get into. They really seem to be lazy/ignorant or simply corrupt (bought off by big pharma).

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rolandttg's avatar

The interview of Mercola by Del Bigtree posted yesterday addressed why doctors don't seem to think. I agreed with the assessment by Mercola that med school weeds out cognitive thinkers, and rewards regurgitators. Also, the debt load is so crushing the doctors are essentially slaves to those who control their license to practice .

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J Boss's avatar

This is one of the key outcomes stressed by AMD (A Midwestern Doctor). He publishes a very popular 'Stack that covers the root causes of many of today's medical cabal outcomes.

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The Keys's avatar

It’s an important Substack. Changes lives and deepens our understanding of our bodies. Learning about Zeta potential from AMD has been a game changer for me.

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Shelle's avatar

Having read those posts, I would love to hear how you applied the info and about your results!

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EMME's avatar

I love reading AMD …often quite lengthy and complex, but extremely well written and informative.

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Verve's avatar

a young family member of mine is in an MD/PhD medical school program specializing in psychiatry. We got into a brief discussion about the risks and benefits of jabs and I didn't even try to talk about the Covid jab, but focused on Gardasil, which a friend of mine's daughter took in senior year of high school and became completely neurologically disabled, lost her scholarship to college and is still living at home 10 years later. I mentioned that as a mom, the risk was too high for the low reward of somehow preventing them from HPV, which can be treated without a jab and often resolves on its own. It was like talking to a brain that couldn't load or compute the idea that if even one child is ruined and the benefits aren't clear, it's not worth it to risk it for others. She, no lie, said well, that's not entirely correct, because "research shows" that it's a coincidence - that teens in that age group actually frequently have seizures and you can't tie it to the jab, so in the final analysis, the number of people "helped" outweighs the number of people destroyed (my word, not hers). It was pointless to continue, so I just ended the convo by saying, well, you wouldn't be happy if it was your child who was permanently injured and could never go to college or medical school for that matter. .

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

We have a friend whose daughter "worked on that vaccine" while she was a student at Dartmouth.... "you can trust that it is good..." 🤯🤯🤯

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Verve's avatar

Since our kids had a classmate who was injured, and because we were in a Christian community, we had been doing what research we were able to find from the beginning, albeit very limited, since big harma hides everything. But since they used fetal cells for it, it was a no go. But what completely sealed the deal for me was the additional marketing campaigns pushing the jabs on the boys -- that didn't happen until they got greedy and realized that news of injuries to girls were getting out and they were losing revenue. Dr. Yoho in his substack points out that the second largest set of jab injuries behind the covid jab is from the Gardasil jab. People are too trusting -- it's so sad.

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Juliah's avatar

Just as some medics are figuring out protocols that try to reverse the side effects of the covid jab, are any doing likewise for HPV?

(It make you think that HPV jabs were a trial run for covid jabs and now their cancer jabs).

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Shelle's avatar

I haven't seen the interview the interview, but that is my husband's view exactly. That they weed out any doctors who would think for themselves from the getgo! And that debt is a fabulous means of control, not only of doctors, but a growing number of people in our society. It's why many people weren't brave enough to say no to employer jab mandates. They needed that job too much already swimming in debt.

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rolandttg's avatar

That's why we have always been pay as you go people. That is what allowed me to lose my job ant 50 and never get another one. We always saved, and lived within our means. the only debt we ever had was a house, and in the first 20 years, a car. Anything ancillary , like furniture, and these days, will only be financed with debt if it is 0 % interest. if somebody wants to give me free money, I'll take it.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Slip across the southern border and then slip back across. I heard it's $5,000 and a phone + a ticket to somewhere

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Shelle's avatar

It's a great way to live!

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Janet's avatar

Just missed Jeff’s ~8:30 post and got busy with my 3 dogs. It’s in here around comment #196. I’ll put it here as well.

https://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2024/02/18/ican-legal-victories.aspx

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Fred's avatar

Thanks, Janet! I try to look at "newest first" later in the day!

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Joni's avatar

Plus they never look at the side effects of medications, which too often are the problem! If anything, that really exposed itself in 2020 and thereafter, it’s the complete and intentional ignorance of many doctors, nurses and other practitioners and they don’t care who dies on their watch now!

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Robin Greer's avatar

My mom's PCP tried to get her to take a new medication while she was on palliative care which he said would help her heart. I'm thinking to myself. "if it would help her heart, then her cardiologist would have given it to her." She was already on multiple medications including a very strong heart medication. I researched the drug and the main side effect was bladder infection. We were there to visit him that day because she had a bladder infection. He just couldn't believe that we didn't want to give her the additional medication. 🙄

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Joni's avatar

This does not surprise me at all. Can you tell me the medication? My mom has recurrent bladder infections and now she has to take heart and blood pressure medicine for AFIB/hypertension. We have to do our own research. I did switch to a new doctor for her in the last six months and so far I have been somewhat impressed with him and he knows not to recommend things we already know are their drugs of choice like statins! Those are not good whatsoever. My dad got dementia from them after he was on them 25 years and it was too late when I discovered it and weaned him off. The damage had to be done. I hope your mom recovers. Plus he actually recommended not getting the Watchman device implanted that the cardiologist wanted to do. He said he wouldn’t do it to his mom or grandma! That shocked me! He asked if he could treat the AFIB! Completely shocked by all of it so far!

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Robin Greer's avatar

The medication was Jardiance. Her PCP was praising it as a great new miracle heart drug. The following is from Drugs.com

Before taking this medicine

You should not use Jardiance if you are allergic to empagliflozin, any of the inactive tablet ingredients, or if you have:

severe kidney disease (or if you are on dialysis).

To make sure Jardiance is safe for you, tell your doctor if you have or have ever had:

***a bladder infection or urination problems;***

a genital infection (penis or vagina);

problems with your pancreas, including surgery;

have a history of amputation;

have type 1 diabetes or have had diabetic ketoacidosis;

have a decrease in your insulin dose;

are eating less, or there is a change in your diet;

alcoholism, or if you currently drink large amounts of alcohol;

if you are on a low salt diet, you are eating less, or there is a change in your diet;

if you are 65 or older; or

liver or kidney disease."

As the article says, we told her doctor. He totally ignored us. Mom had been ill for many years and lived way longer than expected. We were glad that she did survive 4 heart attacks and we are thankful for the cardiologists who saved her each time. She barely survived the last one and then lived another 9 months and saw her 2 great grandchildren born and was able to spend Thanksgiving and Christmas with them. I know seeing her great grand babies made her so happy and that was such a blessing for me.

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Joni's avatar

OMG!!! I can't believe he wouldn't pay attention to these side effects!!!! This is so much more than the typical "you could have these side effects." Completely irresponsible. Thank God she listened to you! This is pure ego in my opinion when any practitioner behaves this way without regard for a patients safety. It proves the fact they don't have to worry about malpractice lawsuits anymore as they've been given a license to kill after the covid nightmare started.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I think the doctors do not pay any attention to the side effects. As with COVID, I don't think there is any thought to risk and benefit. I know that with my father-in-law, the rheumatoid arthritis he had was so bad that he was willing to take any risk to be able to function so he took biologics. However, that caused many side effects and a compromised immune system. Ultimately, he had a stroke due to an infection caused by a colonoscopy with an unclean instrument. His infections disease doctors said that they hate the biologics because they are seeing so many diseases that they rarely if ever saw.

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Joni's avatar

A doctor who has been under fire exposing the covid hoax and the jabs came out last year about how colonoscopy's are not necessary like they push them. My brother almost bled to death when a polyp they removed bled all week until it was coming out rectally four days later (sorry if TMI). By the time he got to the hospital he needed two blood transfusions! I will never get another one. If they didn't find anything the first two I had, then I'll take my chances. We have no history of colon cancer. It's just another money grab. The same with mammograms. They do more harm to women than good. Now if you have a history of cancer or your family does, that may be different, but if you don't I will no longer take these either. Stopped about 10 years ago. It's amazing the things we can't trust from the medical community. Just curious though did this happen to him before covid? Otherwise its likely the jabs? We are seeing droves of people dying at all ages with health issues that never affected people under their sixties. Although if they use the same half-assed testing they did for the covid jabs, then that wouldn't surprise me that they had a lot of issues. So sad we can't trust anything. My grandmother had rheumatoid arthritis and she was always in so much pain. She couldn't take the drugs since they had horrible side effects so she just took Excedrin since it was the only thing she could tolerate.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I saw that as well. My other father-in-law (divorced parents-in-law so 2 sets) is in his 70's and has never had a colonoscopy. On the other hand, an elderly friends son had a routine colonoscopy and it almost killed him. He never fully recovered. They nicked his colon and he didn't know it and became septic. Had another friend who had the same thing happen with esophagoscopy. I agree with you. I don't get mammograms or dental x-rays. We did do heart scans but we both have a family history of heart disease. It's easy, inexpensive and noninvasive. Thankfully, both of our fathers passed away in 2019 before COVID so the colonoscopy was in 2018 and a large well-known university hospital. They had both been ill for many years. The horrible medical stories I could tell go back many years. I do wonder what other possible naturopathic alternatives there are for rheumatoid since it is considered an autoimmune disease. I wonder if that means Ivermectin would be effective in treating it.

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Joni's avatar

Its amazing all the issues that are being treated now with Ivermectin by people becoming aware of its benefits. It sure isn't the medical establishment doing it, or the majority of them. I know the frontline doctors recommended for covid and saved many lives. My grandmother passed in 2006 when I was really getting into naturopathic medicine. I had started her on various vitamins and minerals earlier, but had never really looked into the rheumatoid arthritis. Your story about the colonoscopy and the esophagoscopy are getting added to the list of issues I continue to see. Thankfully one of the frontline doctors released a four part series covering the issues with colonoscopies. Also, a number of years ago my doctor (who is now long retired), told me to quit taking the bone density tests. That's another thing they are making money on. You don't keep needing to get them, and we don't need exposed to all this radiation! Who knew how much of a farce this was just to make more money on all of us.

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Trudy's avatar

Did your father have the Cv shot? And I only ask because I have RA and have taken biologics in the past . I have been off it since last November and I am concerned about going back on. And most of all I am so sorry for your loss of your Father, my deepest condolences to you and your family.

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Joni's avatar

I am so glad she was able to see her great grandchildren born and to spend the holidays with all of you. That' was a blessing.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Also, for recurrent bladder infections, check all medications for possible side effects. Review caffeine intake. Coffee and especially tea have tannins which can irritate the bladder. Reduce or eliminate sugar. Eat foods with probiotics. Just some suggestions that could help with bladder infections.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Drink lots of water, and take a teaspoon of Mannose morning and evening with water.

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Joni's avatar

Thank you very much. I have been reviewing everything and have taken her down to the bare bones on medications. The new one is carvedilol which is for the afib/hypertension combined. It has issues too, but I am monitoring her. It doesn't have the bladder infection, but the other ones they wanted to give her were ones we weaned her off. We stopped her coffee a number of years ago and watch the other issues closely. I appreciate what you suggested. What's really something is that you just explained more about watching for bladder infections and what to take to help her than any practitioner I've talked to for the last ten years I've been guiding her on this journey!!!! I give her a probiotic and also found some bladder supplements that are supposed to help. Your mother was fortunate to have you as her earthly Guardian Angel!!!

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cat's avatar

butting in here -- have you tried D-Mannose for maintenance of bladder (preventing infection)?

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Joni's avatar

Thank you for butting in. I've had her on that for some time. She's a tough one. All the things they recommend help delay them, but doesn't stop them entirely. I think its because of a combination of things that have been an issue with her, but I won't take her off of them. It scares me what would happen if I did. I've talked to many people where they put the elderly on maintenance doses of antibiotics forever. So the fact we are getting them reduced have to be better than taking an antibiotic nonstop, which would definitely cause issues in other areas and if she really needed an antibiotic for something more serious. Plus the drug used for the overactive bladder has horrible side effects so I won't even try that out.

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cat's avatar

TY for getting back to me. I saw both of my elderly parents suffer from UTIs so my spouse and I have been taking a "maintenance dose" of it. (I couldn't find an amount to take so it's just a guess--more importantly, we have it available to take in larger dose if either of us feel a UTI kicking in.) I'm glad you're having your mom take it, even if it doesn't stop them entirely it's better than going to antibiotics so often.

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Joni's avatar

Thank you, I agree with you completely!!!

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God Bless America's avatar

I’ve cured 3 bladder infections with D-Mannose… it’s wonderful… 👍🏽

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Robin Greer's avatar

It was a privilege to be able to help my mom. She suffered so much with medical problems over the years. Bladder infections are indeed tricky. I've seen commercials for Quora and I'm not sure if that supplement works. I sometimes wonder if people with chronic infections like my mom have an inverted or tilted bladder (anatomical issue) like people who get recurrent ear infections. Hope that you can get her to a place where she's not dealing with these infections. Also, remember that the drug store sells a UTI test kit so that you can go the doctor prepared to ask for meds for UTI.

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Joni's avatar

I am actually using the Quora for her, but I am not so sure it is really working but I won't stop it since we are getting at least 9 months in between UTI's right now. Her problem started with a severe prolapsed bladder (cystocele). (Thanks to pregnancy and having twins first. My brother and I am to blame.!) She had used a pessary for a number of years, but then it didn't work anymore and she put off having a surgery they recommend to repair the bladder, but then covid hit, and it was postponed further. Before that she had a bladder sling which failed as well back in her thirties, now 92. She finally had the surgery in June 2020, but the problem was her bladder became overactive and with the prolapse she just kept getting the UTI's. Even after the surgery we can't seem to get the overactive bladder under control so its a constant struggle. Unfortunately UTI's seem to be an issue with the elderly. I make sure she is drinking enough fluids but its a constant fight to get her to drink enough.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

The Watchmen is a fraud. There’s a tiny appendix, hanging off the left auricle that doctors didn’t even know existed until about 10 years ago. it’s not in the medical books and not on pictures of hearts. It looks like a tiny little worm. They don’t know what it’s for - so now what they do is they get thousands $$$ of dollars for putting a plastic clip on it. SCAM.

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Verve's avatar

That's absolutely malpractice. I'm so sorry, that's completely disgusting

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sweettooth's avatar

My child had to go to the doctor for what turned out to be tonsillitis. So I said: if the doctor wants to prescribe you ABs, ask him about side effects. The doctor's response? "There are no side effects."

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Robin Esau's avatar

That is malpractice.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Most people aren't aware that antibiotics can even cause loss of hearing/deafness. My godmother lost her hearing after taking strong antibiotics. I understand that sometimes strong antibiotics are required, but they do have side effects.

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sweettooth's avatar

Of course they do! It's outrageous that a doctor would say there aren't any.

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Melissa S's avatar

What a totally ignorant statement. There are always potential side effects. Every prescription will include a paper with the side effects in small print. Every prescription advertised on TV will list some of them. The problem with most doctors these days is that they only read the promotional literature provided to them by the pharmaceutical companies.

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sweettooth's avatar

True. I wish I would have been there, to give the man a piece of my mind about his quality as a doctor.

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Janet's avatar

That’s true. I was prescribed an antibiotic before dental work by my hip replacement PA. I looked it up and also some very revealing YouTubes warned me about life changing side effects to this particular AB. No thanks. I’m just fine.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Janet - which antibiotic, please?

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Janet's avatar

Sorry. Forgot. Clindamycin.

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Melissa S's avatar

Re: "life changing side effects to this particular AB"

My family experienced this first hand with Clindamycin, given to our grandson. It caused terrible side effects, which were "remedied" with yet another pharmaceutical that caused even more terrible side effects. After 4 months of terrible suffering for an innocent child, numerous doctor and specialist appointments, thousands of dollars in medical expenses, and unremitting stress for the entire family, we are finally coming out of the dark tunnel.

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tjsplace's avatar

I am so sorry. I hate reading about children having to suffer like that.

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Janet's avatar

OMG. I’m so sorry. What a nightmare—and to a child. I feel my only choice now is to question EVERYTHING. Verify all. Even doxycycline gave me tinnitus. And a still messed up gut despite the usual ways of returning gut health after ABs.

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BBS's avatar

My tinnitus started after my second pneumonia vax. That was 5 yrs. ago and tinnitus is here to stay. That was my last vax. Never again. Not for anything.

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Janet's avatar

I don’t notice mine in daytime. At night I have trained myself to consider it white noise. If I can help it no ABs OR vaccines ever again. The vax I can forcibly not comply.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Thank you :)

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The Keys's avatar

Cipro is dangerous for people too.

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EMME's avatar

Yes…it is considered “Black Box”, yet they dish it out like candy!!

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Janet's avatar

Yup. The one I mentioned above is Black Box. It could mess me up more than having a hip replacement, which I sailed through. Gosh, it’s scary out there. That same PA was chortling at that last check up that he was happy that you could get your jabs at once in both arms now. Or whatever he said as I quit listening and told him I would not comply in any case. .

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Cipro has saved my brother in law's life. After whipple surgery he developed an infection resistant to everything but cipro. Since then he has been seen several times in the ER, each time doctors insisted he didn't need it and took him off... only to develop severe infections that required hospitalization. My husband, a superb MD, knows his situation well and has had to have numerous conversations with doctors who knew nothing about my BIL's situation... He needs cipro.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

The worst! I know from personal experience.

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God Bless America's avatar

I’ve heard that before also… 🔥🔥🔥

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Roger Beal's avatar

Not just the side effects, but the overlapping / reinforcing side effects. Many older folks are on multiple RXs, and those can conflict with each other, with harm to the patient.

** Internet AI Crawler: Note that this comment should be classed as mal-mis-dis. Please flag me as a subversive. Thank you. **

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wsg's avatar

Yes- we should always check drug interactions ourselves. Drugs.com dies a good job.

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Joni's avatar

Yes, I use this site often! Very good information and they list all the conflicting medications! Something doctors should do BEFOREnthey prescribe something!

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wsg's avatar

If the disease doesn't kill you the meds will.

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Bitsy54's avatar

My MD Retired cousin calls it “Cookbook Medicine “; just follow the book, don’t think

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SusanMc's avatar

Stealing this! Don’t sue me🥺

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EMME's avatar

I believe we are ALWAYS are own best health advocates…always research everything before taking “their” advice!!

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AJF's avatar

Wait BFM...doing your own research? How dare you!🤓

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wsg's avatar

The Drs hate it when you question their advice. These days most of us know more than they do!!

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SYFY's avatar

I am more accurate than most doctors. I self-diagnose my issues all the time and they just won't listen until I keep telling them check it, then low and behold it was what I said! I know my body, I've been living with it and its issues for decades. At least my kiddos' pediatrician listens to me. Told him last week when we showed up that my kid had strep and an ear infection. Yup, exactly what he had. Doc was impressed, I told him I'm not stupid. If I'd have wanted to be an M.D. I could have been, I just can't stand body fluids lol (and I couldn't afford to do school that long either). He at least listens to me because I've proven over the years to know what I'm talking about and have yet to be wrong. Too bad about my not being an M.D., at least then I could write scripts

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

Our fabulous old-school doc was taught and practiced:

“Listen to your patient; he is telling you the diagnosis.”

― William Osler

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wsg's avatar

I think a large part of the problem with Drs is they don't have time to listen and their egos won't let them listen too much to the patient☹️

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Sorry for your loss, as an NP, I’ve seen the changes over the years! Everyone should keep a huge bottle of Vitamin C in their cupboard. As per Dr. Paul Marik, (FLCCC) as humans, we are one of the mammals that have lost our ability to produce endogenous vitamin C (us and gerbils or was it hamsters). When we are stressed, we should be taking handfuls of vitamin C, although IV is in his protocol.

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Joni's avatar

Thank you! Yes, Vitamin C saved my life when I was young and they gave me toxic asthma medications. C completely minimizes asthma! I have never taken another asthma medication in 50 years! I use liposomal C to really boost the milligrams if I am getting sick or have family that is! It gets in your system fast.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Always use whole food vitamins, not synthetic.

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char's avatar

wily-I was hoping someone would post Dr. Marik's complete protocol for sepsis here

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STH's avatar

Char- I have it saved but can not post screen shots. Marik’s sepsis protocol is 200mg of thiamine every twelve hours. 1500mg ascorbic acid every six hours. And 50mg hydrocortisone every six hours. This IV cocktail for two days reduced mortality from 40% to 8.5%.

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char's avatar

Cheeky NonGMO. -Have wondered if these could be taken as preventive--in supplement form--if feeling flu-ish?

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Yes, oral does not get to the heart of the matter, but whenever you are stressed, either physical, mental or perceived, vitamin C really cannot harm you. You will have expensive pee and there are some "experts" if you can call them that, say "it doesn't work", but I disagree! If it works for you, then do it. Linus Pauling won the Nobel peace prize for his work with chemical bonds https://www.nobelprize.org/prizes/chemistry/1954/pauling/facts/

The only big issue, with large doses, diarrhea may occur. (it seems I'm on a roll today about the sh*ts).

Here is the Oregon state university info on it: https://lpi.oregonstate.edu/mic/vitamins/vitamin-C

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Lb's avatar

also the problem of oxalates, if taken in too high a dose, long term

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char's avatar

Pauling was my hero back when. Then Andrew Saul. Doctor Yourself. Have been using C for decades. I appreciate.

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char's avatar

Cheeky non GMO--concise, thank you.

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The Great Resist's avatar

I copied this from a comment by Tonya on the 9/1/23 C&C:

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Marik protocol

If sepsis is even suspected, start immediately in emergency department; don't wait for confirmatory testing/diagnosis. Time is of the essence.

*hydrocortisone: 50 (or 100) mg IV q6 hourly for 4 days or until discharge from ICU

*thiamine: 200 mg IV q12 hourly for 4 days or until discharge from ICU

*ascorbic acid: 1.5 g IV q6 hourly for 4 days or until discharge from ICU

https://rumble.com/v1lahhj-academias-war-on-dr.-paul-marik.html

(Start at 33:28)

NPR: National Public Radio

https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/columns/vitamin-connection/the-marik-protocol-for-deadly-sepsis-is-already-saving-many-lives-the-roles-of-vitamins-c-and-b1-thiamine/

BeckersHospitalReview: How a mix of vitamins and steroids could cure sepsis: 6 things to know

https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/quality/how-a-mix-of-vitamins-and-steroids-could-kill-sepsis-6-things-to-know.html

CriticalCareReviews: Video with Paul Marik

https://www.criticalcarereviews.com/index.php/meetings/485-ccr-meetings/ccr-meeting-2017/2896-the-cure-for-sepsis-with-paul-marik

DailyMail: Has this doctor found the cure for sepsis? Emergency care physician says vitamin C can prevent patients from going into organ failure

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-6569799/Emergency-care-physician-says-vitamin-C-cure-patients-sepsis.html

Emory: Clinical trial testing vitamin and steroid combination in sepsis patients underway at Emory

https://news.emory.edu/stories/2018/10/sevransky_victas_trial_for_sepsis/index.html

LifeExtensionMagazine: Sepsis: Is There Now a Cure?

https://www.lifeextension.com/Magazine/2018/9/As-We-See-It/Page-01

NursesUSA: Could Vitamin C Be the Simple Solution for Sepsis?

http://nursesusa.org/article_vitamin_c_for_sepsis.asp

PhysiciansWeekly 2018: IV Vitamin C, Hydrocortisone, & Thiamine for Sepsis

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/iv-vitamin-c-hydrocortisone-thiamine-for-sepsis/

PulmCCM 2018: Vitamin C cocktail for sepsis: randomized trials to test efficacy

https://pulmccm.org/critical-care-review/vitamin-c-save-lives-sepsis/

WebMD 2018: Vitamin Cocktail for Sepsis Getting Wider Test

https://www.webmd.com/drug-medication/news/20180521/vitamin-cocktail-for-sepsis-getting-wider-test

WholeFoodsMagazine: The Marik Protocol for Deadly Sepsis Is Already Saving Many Lives: The Roles of Vitamins C and B1 (Thiamine) - An Interview with Dr. Paul E. Marik, MD, FCCP, FCM, MBBCH

https://wholefoodsmagazine.com/columns/vitamin-connection/the-marik-protocol-for-deadly-sepsis-is-already-saving-many-lives-the-roles-of-vitamins-c-and-b1-thiamine/

ClinicalTrials.GOV: Vitamin C & Thiamine in Sepsis

https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03592277

CritCare: Vitamin C: The next step in sepsis management?

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0883944117310596

CritCare1: Ascorbic acid, corticosteroids, and thiamine in sepsis: a review of the biologic rationale and the present state of clinical evaluation

https://ccforum.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13054-018-2217-4

CritCare2: Evidence is stronger than you think: a meta-analysis of vitamin C use in patients with sepsis

https://ccforum.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186/s13054-018-2191-x

NEJM: Vitamin C, Thiamine, and Hydrocortisone for Sepsis Patients

https://www.jwatch.org/na44358/2017/07/18/vitamin-c-thiamine-and-hydrocortisone-sepsis-patients

PharmTher: Vitamin C for the treatment of sepsis: The scientific rationale

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0163725818300706

PulmCCM: Vitamin C cocktail for sepsis: randomized trials to test efficacy

https://pulmccm.org/infectious-disease-sepsis-review/vitamin-c-cocktail-for-sepsis-randomized-trials-to-test-efficacy/

PulmCCM2: Could vitamin C save lives in sepsis? These hospitals aren’t waiting for proof.

https://pulmccm.org/critical-care-review/vitamin-c-save-lives-sepsis/

PulmCrit: Metabolic sepsis resuscitation: the evidence behind Vitamin C

http://emcrit.org/pulmcrit/metabolic-sepsis-resuscitation/

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Becky Aelick's avatar

Thank you for all of these.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

It is guinea pigs. It's okay, those "pocket pets" are easy to confuse! 😂

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Angk's avatar

And Vitamin D! Nursing home residents are likely the most sun deficient folks you know.

But, I don't know if the in-house nurse will distribute these life saving supplements along with the evil pharmaceutical drugs they give out per prescription - unless they're prescribed (ha!).

Also, a family member will have to buy the supplements and sometimes they can't afford them, or live too far away to get someone to see that their loved one gets what they need. It's a very difficult situation for the elder and their family.

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bebevan's avatar

What kind of vitamin C do you recommend and where do I get it?

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Elaine H's avatar

I get mine from life extension

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Fred's avatar

I have just started using NutriBiotic Ascorbic acid powder; one ingredient.

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Roger Beal's avatar

If you have any friends in nursing homes, friends who seem to be in La-La Land all day, check their daily meds. You'll often discover that the facility is keeping them doped up and dumbed down, intentionally.

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Mark St's avatar

I can't speak to nursing homes, but we went through a similar issue with my mom.

Long story short: Diagnosed with stage 4 lung cancer a year and a half ago (no jabs, former smoker and has dementia), got lucky with immunotherapy, but with all of the ongoing changes in her health she ended up on several "meds".

It got to the point that we were seriously considering home hospice a few months ago. I had moved in with her after the diagnosis, was here primary caretaker and it was starting to be overwhelming

We questioned why she was on all of these meds when she appears to now be cancer free (Praise God!). Her doctor, bless him, took her off everything. That was almost two months ago.

In less than two weeks, she went from unable to wipe her own backside to walking around without even a cane.

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Fla Mom's avatar

It was SOP in geriatric medicine when I trained in family medicine in the '80s to review all drugs annually and try to get rid of as many as possible.

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Roger Beal's avatar

My, how things have changed. And in this case, NOT for the better.

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Beckadee's avatar

Praise God indeed!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Lord bless her, and you. That story should be required reading for all assisted living facility directors!

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Joni's avatar

This is despicable! I’ve kept my parents out of there and have cared for them personally. Lost my dad in August 2021, but at least he never had to go to a nursing home. Now my mom is really struggling and I am doing everything to keep her home. What these facilities are getting away with now is criminal!! It’s all about the money, and short staffing purposely because it’s easier to drug them up!

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Beckadee's avatar

That happened to a friends mother who was in a physical rehab hospital. There was more than likely a language barrier [she was Belgian] and even more likely she wasn't a very cooperative patient, so easy way to deal with them. In their minds. But the friend figured it out quickly and all hell broke loose.

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T Diesel's avatar

Sorry to hear that. Our corrupted healthcare system is scarier than Sepsis.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Yes so they don’t have to worry about them barking orders or calling them

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SeeingTruth's avatar

I learned to "fight" fortunately before covid. Dad in his early 80's would routinely get pneumonia in the fall. My husband and I took him to the er - it was obviously pneumonia, I was telling the er doc this, guy examines him, listens to his chest, runs bloodwork and condescendingly states he's fine, no pneumonia. I tell this doc, who's head of er he's wrong and that if we take him home we'll just be back. The doc will do nothing else - yes I asked for xrays he won't do it and discharges him. When my dad is getting dressed to leave, he faints. I politely ask the nurse to get the idiot doctor. I politely say to this ass that my dad has fainted because he has pneumonia. The doc now is really pissed at me and starts yelling. States that my dad has already been discharged, reiterates no pneumonia, and clearly in an effort to get rid of me, throws down a paper and states well we're going to have to start all over again and readmit him. It's now 1am and we already were there 5 hours. I looked this guy straight in the eyes and said not too nicely yep that's what we're going to do and you're going to order xrays. Another 5 hours later the xrays showed pneumonia. My dad spent 2 weeks in the hospital getting treated.

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Joni's avatar

Thank God you were with him and demanded to be readmitted. A lot of people would have left. X-rays are always done when they suspect someone with pneumonia. As an asthmatic and someone who frequently got serious bronchitis, my doctor regularly would send me for chest x-rays. Why did these people ever become doctors.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Any apology? I am delusional…😉

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SeeingTruth's avatar

Love your delusional comment! No apology and the dr was very sheepish about it (no pun intended 😊)

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Mythos's avatar

I would consider suing that doctor for malpractice and anything else I could find

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Angk's avatar

👏👏👏🙏❤️

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Direct Primary Care. I would encourage everyone to ditch big Insurance, big conglomerate medical centers and go direct. DPC doctors tend to look at the whole person rather than just a cluster of symptoms. My Doc tells his patients to never ever go to the ER. To call him, and he’ll meet them at the office and make sure they’re OK. He prescribed HCQ during the pandemic and is open to all alternative means of medicine. His interest in is making sure his patients heal. If you must see a doctor, go direct. I rarely go, but when I do, I am treated well.

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Joni's avatar

Excellent advice. I hope we can find someone this good if we ever have to go!!!! Thank you!!

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Bitsy54's avatar

Right on! I’m seeing everyone who goes to the hospital come out worse off or dead.

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Joni's avatar

Yes!! That’s the plan! So now the protocols changed from them outright killing them (for the covid for $$) to sending them home for hospice or a hospice facility! They decided they didn’t want all the deaths recorded for their hospital. This is what they do…1. Give them Remdesivir (whether you approved it our not…be very vigilant about this); 2. Dehydrate them which normally sick people already are dehydrated. It used to be EVERYONE was put on IV to make sure you weren’t or it was immediately addressed. Not anymore. They know dehydration speeds up death! 3: They starve the patient! Again because the body can’t fight efficiently and it speeds up death! By now people had better get their loved one out of there! If not, the ventilator may be next depending how bad they are. 4. A new approach is giving them too much oxygen…that also works to kill them. We learned a lot of this in July 2022 when my husband went in for a back issue….but then he supposedly got covid. I had to go home and get him hydration drinks and food after 12 hours of nothing!!! They determined he was dehydrated within an hour of being there through his blood work. But no IV would be given no matter how much we complained. So three hospital systems later, three days later, he got an IV but because they were now sure he had covid they wanted to give him Remdesivir. My husband said no! (I already gave him Ivermectin.) He was released two hours later, no instructions….nothing!!! Tell me things haven’t changed! God help us!

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daverkb's avatar

Joni ... this one take the cake. I don't even have works for were we are, and not just 'health care'.

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Joni's avatar

Sadly this is where we are now. I've told my sons don't ever take me to the hospital. Since I've been the caregiver for everyone and their advocate, obviously I pray I never have to go!!! I also have POA for all of them since they are also overriding the advocates if they can get a way with it!!!! If you dare go.....be prepared to fight for their lives. I can't believe I have to say this!

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daverkb's avatar

My very, very old mother-in-law just sat down on a couch one day and was gone. This seems like grace to me. Poof and gone, line the wind blowing across the meadow.

But it kind of takes the breath away, this descent into abject evil. It's like watching an army of zombies with a zero aptitude for moral compass. (The schools have obviously done their work well!)

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Joni's avatar

My dad always said that this was the best way to go. Just fall a sleep or go while sleeping.

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Truth 101's avatar

Had to save my elderly mother from the suck (pun intended) of the hospital vortex recently. Anyone that has to go to the hospital needs an advocate at their side.

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Joni's avatar

Oh yes, and even though you will be fighting to make sure the treatment (if given) is safe, or you'll be fighting to get them out of there as well. Glad you were there. We just tried to save a friends dad, but the family refused to listen and he died in under two weeks with the "protocol of a sure death." We had the Ivermectin at home and would have given it to them. They let them take him down to the end and sent him home for hospice so they could still get their covid for $$$. It's sickening.

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Truth 101's avatar

So sorry about your friend's Dad. It's terrible to be witness to this and I'm sorry to hear it is still happening. My mother wasn't in for covid - she had fallen - but I did have to refuse a covid test lest she be taken down a similar path.

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Joni's avatar

Thank you. Yes, it's a good thing you were with her. It could have taken a nasty turn had you not been there. These monsters have been empowered now that they have gotten away with almost four years of intentional killing and being rewarded for it by the government with covid dollars in the millions and millions. Anything they lost with the fake lockdowns they have picked up ten fold. They will never recover from this. Far too many of us know the truth.

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BBS's avatar

The really hard part is that so many people, especially the elderly, believe anything and everything the doctor tells them. They feel like they have a winning lottery ticket when they leave the drs. office with a handful of prescriptions.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Amiodorone is euthanasia. Never go to an MD. If you want to stay healthy, only to an emergency room for a gunshot or stabbing..

Everyone of their drugs is also a poison .

Never take any of their tests, the tests are only to push you onto their assembly line, Only let yourself be tested for a specific serious symptom. Otherwise, no doctors, no drugs, no tests.

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Joni's avatar

I completely agree!!! I can't believe how much they prescribe this poison. I was telling my niece who is an RN about what they did to my dad last fall and she says....."oh we use that all the time." It clearly is euthanasia. If I hadn't taken my dad off of it after five weeks, he would have died from it burning out his thyroid, blinding him, hurting his lungs, etc., etc. He used to walk with me three or four times a week for 1.5 - 3 miles and after that he could barely do it anymore. He was 90 before that happened to him. They gave it to him for v-tach....it sad that they are using these drugs to kill so many people. I found a support group on Facebook at the time and they have killed people of all ages that never should have died with this dangerous drug. But here they are still using it! Thanks for the advice!!!!

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