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Roger Beal's avatar

Most of the questions they ask at the annual "wellness check" are from a list provided by HHS, and are designed (via double negatives and repetition) to get you to state that you're feeling hopeless and depressed. BOOM! Another client for psycho meds!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Don’t forget the question that evolved in the last decade or so…”do you feel safe at home?”

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Which they often ask in front of people you might have brought with you. ( experience when taking my parents to assorted doctor appointments )

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Fred's avatar

Hahaha! 🤯

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

I'm guessing they keep measuring blood pressure to have 'data' to prescribe statins, which about 40% of US adults take and half of men over 65.

Ka-ching ka-ching for big pharma.

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Susan's avatar

I refused those, even my liberal PA said I would prescribe them for you but you wouldn't take them would you, I am like "nope!"

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mimi's avatar

There is no evidence statins are helpful to women of any age or to the elderly. They only help middle aged men who already have heart disease and evidently that is because they are anti-inflammatory.

A male friend of mine had a heart attack at 51. They gave him statins. He was dead of another heart attack within a year. Maybe they are more helpful to others but I really wonder.

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Susan's avatar

I am not going to take that chance, not to mention all the issues you get with side effects. As a nurse, lol, I have been trying to talk people OUT of taking meds, I really need to change over to the holistic side of things, should never have gotten into the RN for worldly health field!

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

Good for you--go for it!! I feel similar regrets as a dietitian. But your knowledge is definitely a valuable asset that can be used for a greater good.

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Susan's avatar

working on the Functional Nutrition Alliance classes, which does kinda both, but goes for root cause over symptom management, might be up your alley also ???

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

I jumped ship 15 years ago when chronic illness visited our family. Total 180 from all the things I had previously promoted as true and good. Took it all back to ground zero. Functional medicine/nutrition/chiropractic all the way!

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Susan's avatar

Amen to that, that is where I am heading myself!!!

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Not to mention that they double your risk of type 2 diabetes.

They recently tried to prescribe them to my brother for cholesterol when he's already diabetic!

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mimi's avatar

I wonder if doctors even pay attention to the daily news.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

They certainly don't keep up with the medical literature in their specialties!

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mimi's avatar

They don't seem to know much of anything.

My husband is a sugar fiend. Eats entire packs of cookies and then eats candy. I have been telling him for years that he needs to quit eating so much junk.

Because his BP med hasn't been working that well, his doctor wanted to add on another one. The BP meds he already has makes him feel crappy so he responded to this by stopping his sugar consumption. After a couple of weeks, his BP is down by 20-30 points and they don't understand it.

He complained that the meds made him dizzy. The doc said that cutting back on sugar can make people dizzy and that he shouldn't cut back so much. Sure, doc, keep pushing poison.

I have to give him credit. I never thought he'd be able to do this. They halved his current dosage of generic norvasc. We're hoping if he keeps it up and loses a few more pounds that he'll be off the drugs completely.

I give him some chocolate now and then if he seems like he's going to lose it but other than that he's been really good. He does eat other carbs but he's not snacking on potato chips either.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Your husband is lucky to have you.

Sugar is food for cancer, not to mention diabetes, so everyone should go off it.

I used to be a BBQ potato chip fiend, but now that I eat healthy, I get a headache when I eat them. They are loaded with so many bad ingredients.

Give him my congrats. That is awesome and he should be proud.

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mimi's avatar

Thanks for the reminder. I don't congratulate him enough.

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mimi's avatar

I can't tell you how many bags of BBQ chips I have eaten in my life. It was my favorite when I was a kid. Here in California we used to have Laura Scudder's potato chips which were the best. Just as well we don't have them anymore.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Yes, me too! I ate a local brand called Wise in upstate NY. I think the potato chips weren't loaded with all the toxins and additives back then. The only problem was that they were deep-fried. It's now that they are a worry because a lot of those ingredients are truly harmful. On his chemtrails substack, Agent 131711 has been doing a lot on toxic food ingredients. It's rather shocking what he's finding through his research.

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STH's avatar

And there are other options like anti inflammatories with positive side effects (anti-cancer) like low dose naltrexone.

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

I'd recommend curcumin, quercetin w/ bromelain and trans-resveratrol - all anti-inflammatory / antioxidant / anti-viral. There are others, too!

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R1ghtTh1nk's avatar

I'd recommend curcumin, quercetin w/ bromelain and trans-resveratrol - all anti-inflammatory / antioxidant / anti-viral. There are others, too!

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

LDN 👍👍

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mimi's avatar

Dr. Michael Eades was discussing Viagra in his substack the other day. It was developed as a heart drug but got sidetracked :). He suggested that it is probably a much better drug for heart disease than statins but he couldn't find any RCT studies on it.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Good for you!

I feel fortunate that I read the book "How to Stop Your Doctor Killing You" by a British doctor named Vernon Coleman, which gave me encouragement and tools for saying no.

I recently had a nurse tell me I was the only patient she'd encountered in a long time who isn't taking meds (here in the US). Probably because I moved here from the UK where the NHS pays for the meds and not the patient so they don't prescribe wantonly. The NHS is about cost control rather than making profits from patients. That system has its own flaws, but it's a much better and fairer system than the one here in the US in my experience.

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Susan's avatar

I have had to put PAs/NPs in their place myself, I tell my kids and others who will listen, you are your own advocate, you have to open up your mouth!!! It also behooves people to DO THEIR OWN RESEARCH!!! Look into what ails you, look first to see if there isn't anything homeopathic you can do first? Going to the doc should be the LAST option, not the first. I have the sinus/cold going around, been the THIRD TIME this season, means I have to beef up my immune system, what and how can I do that? research will tell me, and I will work on it.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Yes! I'm with you completely and take the same approach.

Same with vets. They rely on meds, vaxes, and surgery. Lots of holistic and natural treatments available that are much better, if you do some research online. My cat is far happier and healthier for it.

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Susan's avatar

LOL, at first I thought you were talking about military vets until you said your cat...hahahahha, but same thing, yes, vets, from what I hear, can be just as bad as docs, not sure what your pet will get when they get their vaxxes or what is in their food from what I hear about many dogs dying from Purina pet foods???

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

Did not even think of vet double meaning!

Yes, I've heard about the Purina scandal. My cat will only eat a certain dry food, so I have started putting extra virgin coconut oil on his fur, which he then licks off, as well as on a problem area. His fur is now shiny healthy and the problem area has resolved. I also use it myself as body lotion.

I learned about using coconut oil from holistic vet Judy Morgan in her book Raising Naturally Healthy Pets. She's great on natural solutions.

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Susan's avatar

That is awesome, may do that on my dog as no matter what we have tried, she is still flea ridden. Also been talking about in my classes about coconut water over water, has many of the minerals we need that we lack in our normal diets. You can trust most natural solutions because you either make it or you can read what actually goes in it!

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

I'm going through the flea thing with my cat right now and gotten it mostly under control -- it takes time with their laying cycle to get rid of them all.

Judy Morgan has a lot of different solutions to try. I've done dishwashing soap baths -- fleas die in soapy water instantly. But then they can be hard to reach in the fur, so I do a flea comb three times a day with my cat on the toilet lid. He loves it so much that I find him on the toilet lid waiting for me! It's also really good for his lymph system, particularly in winter when he sleeps a lot.

You can also slather the fur in coconut oil from top to bottom. Cover the furniture first -- only a problem the first day as it absorbs and rubs off but stays in the deep fur continuing to do its magic. That helped a lot.

Lemon juice from the inside of the lemon can also be combed through the fur -- fleas hate it. There are also essential oils they hate, which must be diluted first.

To get rid of fleas in the environment, boil then simmer 3-4 cut-up lemons with rinds in 2 cups water for about an hour. Cool overnight, strain, add 1.5 cups white vinegar, put in spray bottle, and use that to spray everything. As well as doing a regular vacuum as fleas can get in carpets.

Coconut water -- need to drink more of this then!

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Susan's avatar

Thanks for the tips on the fleas, we keep her indoors more but we have a large pen for her to run around in and the problem is she rolls in the dirt, then the process starts all over again, the fleas love the grass and that is a large lot, tried spraying it, but the weeds outside of the pen I am sure holds the fleas too. We give them Dawn dish soap baths because it has been tested on animals, then started putting coconut oil on them to put the moisture back in. The flea drops on their skin does absolutely nothing! We have 50 acres, the cats free roam around the house, and thankfully no carpet, but still, easy to get bit up!

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Fred's avatar

IDK, and trust your experience, but the Liverpool Care Pathway seemed to have knocked off a whole bunch of your elderly, even when they weren't terminal. Read up on the lady with the dislocated shoulder and the 'appendicitis' case who were unnecessarily sedated, denied nutrition and made DNR's without their consent. The reports sounded legit, but no way to verify. I can say that the LCP use of up to 60mg midazolam is deadly...

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

The NHS being government funded is subject to political pressures, and the handling of things during the pandemic across the country was ridiculous, harmful, and even fatal for so many people. Those kinds of incidents did happen, and so many people couldn't get any help or treatment at all.

But comparing the two systems I find the NHS preferable in a number of very important ways. If you have the money for private treatment, that's a different matter and the US is probably a better bet.

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Fred's avatar

The budget is always the bottom line.

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Marion's avatar

I live in the U.K., and if you are working, you do pay for meds (prescriptions). Of course, lots of people don’t work, retired, unemployed, children, but as I say…if you work, you pay, perhaps not the full cost, but depending on the medicine sometimes the prescription costs more than if you could buy the med yourself…

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CarO Lyn's avatar

A common side effect of statins is Type 2 diabetes!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

It seems as if everyone I know makes appointments for this "wellness" visit to doctors. How insane! You go to a doctor even though you feel fine? I thought they were for sick people. But I've now crossed that reason off my list. Maybe I'd show up at an E.R. for a broken bone, but I'm still thinking on that one.

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E.Z. Prine's avatar

My medicare plan incentivizes you with $15 on a debit card if you do a wellness check. Must be they were having trouble getting people to do these!

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MaryAnn's avatar

Mine too! The robo calls for my “in-home 😳😖wellness visit” come at least weekly. And I get a $40 Visa gift card for letting a stranger into my house to check my BP and make sure I am “safe”. Grrr!

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Patrice's avatar

From my children's intake forms: Are there guns in the house? Do your parents watch news shows, how many hours, what networks?...

I answered only the medically necessary questions and returned the 5 page form to the medical assistant, mostly blank.

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PJ's avatar

When I went for my last (about 5 years ago) Medicare wellness visit they wanted me to draw hands on a clock & asked me what the date was!!! I answered “how do you think I got here by myself if I didn’t know what day or time it is???” Never went back for one of those. So demeaning!

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

We don't answer any questions that are not pertinent to the reason for the visit, we only go when absolutely necessary and we love our doctor - he has been my doctor since I was a teenager and he has been my husband's doctor since we were married over 30 years ago. During a visit several years ago re: concerns for aging family members, he told me that the reason they ask older patients to draw a clock is that people in the beginning stages of cognitive decline don't draw a clock normally, i.e., draw a circle, add the 12, 6, 9, and 3 numbers first, and then add the rest of the numbers. That way, the numbers are evenly spaced around the clock. People with cognitive deficits tend to start at 12 or 1, and then continue on around the clock face, but the spacing is all off.

Still, I get your point, it is insulting.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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CarO Lyn's avatar

I wait until the waiting room (when I rarely go to Dr) to fill out forms so I can answer only questions that I find relevant and appropriate. If you try to do them online, as they push you to do, it won’t let you leave any of those questions blank.

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YYR's avatar

Lie or tell them something vague. Seriously, people.

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Susan's avatar

Not to mention to ensure your rights are taken away, e.g. 2nd amendment

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Susan Clack's avatar

Exactly…you beat me to it.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I lied in the last one, just to see if they’d label me depressed. I didn’t lie hard enough. It was useless, the “ wellness check up “

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

But disability makes me go or they threaten to review my case.

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SoManyQuestions's avatar

And an associated charge for this "mental health evaluation". So infuriating. I respectfully decline.

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PJ's avatar

I decline very disrespectfully. They want to make you look less than capable.

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