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George Burnet's avatar

Ukraine: "Thanks, but no tanks."

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Those tanks are doing good work.

Ask the Russians.

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Politico Phil's avatar

And what exactly is "good"?

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TB's avatar

Knowing Bennny, "good" probably means "they are forcing the Russians to consume their stocks of kamikaze drones to destroy them". Winning!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Russia is behind Ukraine in Kamikaze drones.

https://www.reddit.com/r/DroneCombat/comments/1bluhvo/continuation_from_earlier_the_last_surviving/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3

This was the sole surviving man from a meat assault who was hunted down and finished off by an FPV drone.

The cost for a single drone is around 400$ and uses whatever munitions are on hand. The dropper drones are even more cost efficient, wounding and killing dozens before they normally crash from ECM or combat losses.

We haven't even gone over the meat assaults that were wiped out by US supplied bradleys.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Reddit is your source? Oh my! 🤓

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It's from a channel where war videos are uploaded.

https://t.me/wilddivision82/149

Here's the video also from the FPV drone operators themselves on telegram :)

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TB's avatar

I take it you have carefully avoided seeing the videos of entire factories full of *Russian* killer drones in constant production. It's really easy to build a convincing case for one side if you ignore the other.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nobody is ignoring they exist but as in the case of all things there's a bit of deceit to those videos.

The lancets have been one of Russia's more effective weapons.

Ukraine produces more FPV drones monthly than Russia does.

In case you missed it Russia has been under OWA warnings consistently for days.

https://t.me/pilotblog/10792

This was a "Lyuty" drone striking a refinery.

Russia has lost a lot of the advantages it had last winter/summer.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

47th Brigade has been smoking Russian soldiers left and right with them. The optics are absolutely better than anything Russia has.

If the ground is so muddy the m1 can't work a Russian tank is not magically going to operate either.

There are countless Russian tanks that have been abandoned due to mud and recovered by Ukrainians for reuse and countless images of Russian tanks in peacetime, pre-war conditions that show them getting bogged down by mud.

An m1 with the 105mm cannon has a better ground pressure than the T90M tank. Yes, better.

It will do better in the mud than a Russian tank.

Now, the tanks supplied to Ukraine are A1s with the 120 which means they are heavier but not that much so. It's not going to be that much different than the Russian tanks and still may even be comparable when you factor in how much more armor russians are slapping on to avoid Ukrainian FPV drones.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Yet, the UKRAINIANS sat differently! 🤔

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

So Ukraine got 31 tanks from us, and they have knocked out 2800 Russian tanks. You must think everyone here is a fucking imbecile. Shut up, benn,go back to call of duty.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ukrainians that I am talking to love it and want hundreds more.

Out of the 31 tanks Ukraine was supplied with 4 have been lost. Considering the heavy combat they have seen (blunting the Russian advance from Avdiivka) it's acceptable.

For comparison Russia has lost around 2800 tanks including several hundred of their best T72, T80, and T90 tanks.

I remember how Jeff was crooning months ago about how M1s can't cope with LSCO but now it's the mud.

That quietly dissapeared...I wonder why.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Gotta love how you stick to the "Ukraine IS WINNING!" mantra. Just a couple hundred more BILLIONS from the US and they'll push right over Russia! 🤣😜🤪

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Hold up, ukraine has gotten hundreds of billions?

Russia has failed to accomplish the stated goals they claimed were accomplished 760 days ago and some propagandists claim Kyiv had already been demilitarized.

What would have been the world reaction if the coalition had been driven back from Baghdad?

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Estimates I've heard is we GIVEN Ukraine over $200 BILLION, but really, no one knows...not even you.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

We haven't given them "over 200 billion".

113 billion was allotted between Humanitarian and military aid.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

You have NO IDEA what they're doing in DC or how much or where any of our tax dollars and military equipment is going. There's is ZERO accounting or oversight after we give the money/equipment/"aid" over to them. If history hasn't proved that to you, youll never figure it out. Every last one of our "representatives" there are in it for themselves.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Clearly you do, right?

Absolutely incorrect. We do know where our military equipment is going. We have auditers who track the aid. We can track it very well as Ukraine aid is some of the most audited and documented aid in history. However, no new aid has been approved in nearly 6 months. It's a pointless argument, right?

Corruption should be zero because no American aid and the war should be over!

Hold up..Russia is continuing to attack Ukraine. What gives?

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Brett Robinson's avatar

I was gonna say the same thing!!! 👍🏼

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