Exactly. We can't hold Trump accountable for things he did based on what we know now vs. what he knew at the time. He did what his advisors in gov't asked him to do: Be the spokesperson for an initiative.
OWS was a Marketing/PR initiative, had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the vaccines (which obviously already existed), and is the one time in his Presidency that he felt people he worked with appreciated what he did. It's not like Trump was in the lab creating and testing these things.
Certainly Fauci and his handlers lied to Trump about covid, as they did to other conservative leaders in other countries. He got played, but he carries no blame for the vaccines or covid response IMO. He did the right thing based on what he (and we) knew at the time. He fought masks, fought lockdowns, and never mandated anything. Everything that happened after him was the problem.
And, for all we know, no one in Trump's orbit has even told him about side effects, adverse events, etc. to this day.
I think he was played too….what I can’t get past is the fact that he will not concede that. He refuses to stop patting himself on the back for OWS. To this day he belts it out proudly and says he saved millions.
If he had quietly stopped pushing it and touting it, that would have went a long ways. He didn’t even have to admit he was wrong. Just shut up about it and let the people shout it. 😏
That being said. The more they persecute him, the more it shows he is over target and how vile they think he is. They hate him with the strongest definition of hate there is. Therefore he still has my vote.
It just seems like revisionist history when people blame Trump for this mess.
The only reason we had mask mandates was b/c Trump refused to wear them. It even got so petty as to be a requirement to not use neck gaiters, only sissy masks. It was designed to emasculate Trump supporters.
Same for lockdowns. He argued over and over that we should reopen, and every time he did everyone in the media and Twitter (which wasn't yet free) blasted him as a literal murderer.
And of course "Joe Biden" mandated the shots, not Trump.
Trump was also the sanest voice in terms of risk, saying IFR below 1% while Fauci was screeching it could be as high as 5% and "researchers" were saying 3.4%. (They were only off by a factor of 100.)
Trump was used as the PR man for an intelligence community psy-op against him. He thought he was doing something good to help people and might actually gain some respect.
Not the best look for Trump, but then again, everyone who wasn't in on it got played (aside from a tiny handful of Substacks, most of which took over a year to get it). IOW, he's human.
Dude, I got it very early on, and I'm not a scientist. I knew weeks into it that it was fabricated BS. That doesn't bode well for Trump, who is going to "drain the swamp." People are being played.
This isn't directed at you personally, but a lot of the people who "knew" right from the start that it was a scam (setting aside the ones who only "knew it" in hindsight) is that they're the same ones who easily see conspiracies everywhere... which has the advantage of being the first to identify real conspiracies, but the disadvantage of also identifying "conspiracies" that turn out not to be.
I tend to see Trump as less quick to draw that conclusion, so I doubt he would be one of the earlier ones to realize. If you add on top of that, the fact that he certainly didn't have time to do his own research, and was surrounded by people telling him what the "best solutions" were, I don't think it's fair to really fault him for accepting it at least in the beginning. (But as others have said, he's hurting himself by still not admitting he was played.)
Of course we all know he had evil people whispering in his ear, but he also had people who weren't deep state goons who were telling him to use caution and pointing out things like the cruise ship with low infection fatality rate, dangers of mRNA tech, etc.
I knew it was a hoax very early on because immediately everyone in media and politics were parroting the same line. You know something is up then.....
Oh come on, seriously? If you don't see a difference then we agree to disagree.
Exactly. We can't hold Trump accountable for things he did based on what we know now vs. what he knew at the time. He did what his advisors in gov't asked him to do: Be the spokesperson for an initiative.
OWS was a Marketing/PR initiative, had absolutely nothing to do with the creation of the vaccines (which obviously already existed), and is the one time in his Presidency that he felt people he worked with appreciated what he did. It's not like Trump was in the lab creating and testing these things.
Certainly Fauci and his handlers lied to Trump about covid, as they did to other conservative leaders in other countries. He got played, but he carries no blame for the vaccines or covid response IMO. He did the right thing based on what he (and we) knew at the time. He fought masks, fought lockdowns, and never mandated anything. Everything that happened after him was the problem.
And, for all we know, no one in Trump's orbit has even told him about side effects, adverse events, etc. to this day.
Thank you for sharing exactly how I feel about this. Trump was played by the deep state actors just like everyone else
I think he was played too….what I can’t get past is the fact that he will not concede that. He refuses to stop patting himself on the back for OWS. To this day he belts it out proudly and says he saved millions.
If he had quietly stopped pushing it and touting it, that would have went a long ways. He didn’t even have to admit he was wrong. Just shut up about it and let the people shout it. 😏
That being said. The more they persecute him, the more it shows he is over target and how vile they think he is. They hate him with the strongest definition of hate there is. Therefore he still has my vote.
It just seems like revisionist history when people blame Trump for this mess.
The only reason we had mask mandates was b/c Trump refused to wear them. It even got so petty as to be a requirement to not use neck gaiters, only sissy masks. It was designed to emasculate Trump supporters.
Same for lockdowns. He argued over and over that we should reopen, and every time he did everyone in the media and Twitter (which wasn't yet free) blasted him as a literal murderer.
And of course "Joe Biden" mandated the shots, not Trump.
Trump was also the sanest voice in terms of risk, saying IFR below 1% while Fauci was screeching it could be as high as 5% and "researchers" were saying 3.4%. (They were only off by a factor of 100.)
Trump was used as the PR man for an intelligence community psy-op against him. He thought he was doing something good to help people and might actually gain some respect.
Not the best look for Trump, but then again, everyone who wasn't in on it got played (aside from a tiny handful of Substacks, most of which took over a year to get it). IOW, he's human.
Dude, I got it very early on, and I'm not a scientist. I knew weeks into it that it was fabricated BS. That doesn't bode well for Trump, who is going to "drain the swamp." People are being played.
https://twitter.com/maxwellazoury/status/1679319970491031552
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/dear-donald-trumpcan-you-help-us
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/president-biden-in-his-own-speech
https://sagehana.substack.com/p/rochelle-pierre-jay-donald-and-joe
This isn't directed at you personally, but a lot of the people who "knew" right from the start that it was a scam (setting aside the ones who only "knew it" in hindsight) is that they're the same ones who easily see conspiracies everywhere... which has the advantage of being the first to identify real conspiracies, but the disadvantage of also identifying "conspiracies" that turn out not to be.
I tend to see Trump as less quick to draw that conclusion, so I doubt he would be one of the earlier ones to realize. If you add on top of that, the fact that he certainly didn't have time to do his own research, and was surrounded by people telling him what the "best solutions" were, I don't think it's fair to really fault him for accepting it at least in the beginning. (But as others have said, he's hurting himself by still not admitting he was played.)
Of course we all know he had evil people whispering in his ear, but he also had people who weren't deep state goons who were telling him to use caution and pointing out things like the cruise ship with low infection fatality rate, dangers of mRNA tech, etc.
I knew it was a hoax very early on because immediately everyone in media and politics were parroting the same line. You know something is up then.....
All they had to do is listen to Trump's video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-YBDTqX_ZU
😆
Who's your better option?
Agree. Fauci trying to hide his smirk as DJT is speaking about the vid is proof of his tyranny. God sees everything.