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FlyingDad's avatar

How about an immigration moratorium until we can get this mess under control?

william howard's avatar

funny how the left screams about Trump selling citizenship to millionaires who are self sufficient and willing to invest millions into the country but are ok selling citizenship for the price of an airline ticket

Matt L.'s avatar

What would be hilarious is if Trump were to aggressively seek tax compensation from previous anchor babies, now adults and living offshore.

An adult child born via birth tourism faces full U.S. tax obligations upon reaching legal age, regardless of where they live or earn their income. The US should aggressively go after all US adult citizens born this way, living and working outside USA. And if person won’t pay their US taxes, then revoke their citizenship or bar re-entry into USA until the tax bill is paid.

The United States practices citizenship-based taxation, meaning all U.S. citizens are subject to federal tax laws on their worldwide income, even if they left the country as an infant and have never returned.

WTPuck's avatar

Brilliant! And would have dems chasing their tails again.

caveat emptor's avatar

Great idea, Matt.

I axed an AI that is using Grok in this instance to verify your into, and after getting it to drop its woke orientation, and update it data to give a correct answer, it confirmed what you suggested, with the caveat that the govt cannot remove involuntarily one's citizenship. It may be wrong on that, I don't know, but here's the relevant part of it's answer in case you (or anyone) are interested:

"The quote you provided is partially correct in its legal premise but contains a critical misunderstanding regarding the mechanism for "revoking citizenship."

Here is the breakdown of what is accurate and what is legally impossible under current U.S. law:

1. What is Correct: Citizenship-Based Taxation

True: The United States is one of the few countries (along with Eritrea) that practices citizenship-based taxation. This means that all U.S. citizens, regardless of where they live or how long they have lived abroad, are subject to U.S. federal income tax on their worldwide income.

True: An adult born in the U.S. via "birth tourism" (anchor baby) who has never lived in the U.S. is still a U.S. citizen and must file U.S. tax returns if their income meets the filing threshold.

True: They are required to report foreign bank accounts (FBAR) and foreign assets (FATCA).

True: The U.S. government can and does aggressively pursue unpaid taxes from citizens living abroad.

2. What is Incorrect/Legally Impossible: Revoking Citizenship for Non-Payment

False: "Revoke their citizenship... if person won't pay their US taxes."

Legal Reality: Under the 14th Amendment and Supreme Court precedent (specifically Afroyim v. Rusk, 1967), U.S. citizenship cannot be involuntarily stripped by the government as a penalty for unpaid taxes or any other crime, unless the citizen voluntarily renounces it with the intent to give up citizenship.

The Consequence: While the government can seize assets, garnish wages, deny passports, or bar re-entry due to unpaid taxes (under the "seriously delinquent tax debt" provision of the Fixing America's Surface Transportation Act), they cannot revoke the citizenship itself. The person remains a citizen forever, even if they are barred from entering the country.

False: "Bar re-entry... until the tax bill is paid."

Clarification: This part is partially true but nuanced. The State Department can deny a passport or revoke an existing passport if the IRS certifies a "seriously delinquent tax debt" (generally over $62,000 adjusted for inflation, though this amount changes). Without a valid passport, a U.S. citizen generally cannot re-enter the U.S. by air. However, they are not "banned" in the sense of losing their right to return; they are simply blocked from traveling without resolving the debt or obtaining a special waiver. They could theoretically return by land from Canada or Mexico (though this is difficult without a passport) or be processed at a consulate for emergency travel documents. But the citizenship remains intact.

3. The "Birth Tourism" Context

The Quote's Logic: The text suggests that because these individuals are citizens, they owe taxes globally. This is correct.

The Flaw: The text assumes the U.S. can use tax non-payment as a tool to strip them of the very citizenship that creates the tax obligation. This is a legal impossibility. The U.S. cannot say, "You are a citizen, so you owe taxes. You didn't pay, so you are no longer a citizen." The obligation to pay taxes stems from the citizenship, which cannot be unilaterally taken away as punishment."

Matt L.'s avatar

Thanks for this! Barring re-entry to US or its territories of these β€˜Accidental Americans’ until tax bill is paid can act the same as stripping citizenship - if the intent is to prevent adult anchor babies living in another country from voting, or otherwise accessing public benefits available to US citizens residing in the US.

I also asked AI whether an adult anchor baby with US citizenship, who has never resided in US since infancy - is still eligible to absentee vote by mail in US elections. The answer is in link state by state, but what I’ve read is that YES, this offshore voting is allowed if that persons parent or legal guardian β€˜last domiciled’ in that particular state. I read this as meaning the parent or guardian could reside in US State illegally, but because they lived there, their US both tourist kid can now absentee vote in that State, even if kid never lived in US past infancy. That is wild to me. Perhaps another reason to clean up the voter rolls?

https://www.fvap.gov/citizen-voter/reside

S.P.H.'s avatar

Correct,Matt L. In my county we are seeing more ballots coming in from off shore, more than registered military serving out of country. UCAVA , another way to put a finger on the scale of honest elections.

These names must be removed from voter rolls somehow. SCOTUS has politicized original intent and is pro-actively destroying our Republic. Playing politics with law, who was it that declared 'two steps forward one step back'? We lose a step with every political decision.

To believe Congress will do what is right for the people and the country is a fantasy at this point. "elect better candidates" we are told, "then things will change". Thats like saying a corrupt mechanic that fixes your car enough to take your money and get you out of the shop will suddenly become honest and correct all past sins. Look who just won the primary in Colorado 1st Congressional district. Another foreigner, another hate America firster.

I appreciate Mr. Childers optimism and we all need that, but the reality looms large. I will keep fighting, for my grands, they do not deserve what is coming and hold no responsibility in the cause.

There will never be another President Trump.Two years, will our country be saved? II Chronicles 7:14. Vote only for bold America first candidates. Bury weak GOP candidates and elected, no time to waste. Like sand through the hourglass, so are the days of our lives. All three branches of government have become a soap opera.

LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

And the worst branch is Congress. They’re being paid for their votes, they’re in office too long which leads to more corruption, many of them have criminal backgrounds, many of them are immoral, many of them want communism. They are so tangled that they cannot agree to pass any law.

K Tucker Andersen's avatar

❀️❀️❀️ this comment . How does the taxation land for individuals who have dual citizenship? Is it country of primary residence or some other basis.

Matt L.'s avatar

Yes, duel citizens are also required.

If you hold US citizenship, you must file an annual tax return using Form 1040 if your gross income meets minimum filing thresholds, even if all of your income was earned and taxed in another country of citizenship.

There is however a β€˜Double Taxation Relief’ mechanism available.

One must file 1040, but US offers tools like the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) and the Foreign Tax Credit to help avoid duel citizens from being taxed twice on the same income.

But, if anchor baby adult or duel citizens isn’t filing 1040’s annually and using FEIE tools - then this can be used as basis to dissolve US citizenship.

Momcat's avatar

children with investment income in the US pay taxes, shouldn't the anchor babies be paying on any such income they have as well? parents can choose to claim the income themselves, but could anchor babies' parents do that?

Inisfad's avatar

Depending on the level of your income, you file taxes in both countries of your citizenship.

Mitch's avatar

brilliant work around

Mark Leone's avatar

We can attack this from the supply side also. Deny tourist visas for pregnant women and implement criminal penalties for lying about your pregnancy status.

Hana CL's avatar

I like it!!! πŸ‘

CMCM's avatar

I worked in Iran for two years and 8 years in Saudi Arabia. I had an overseas exemption for a portion of my income, but I had to file my U.S. tax forms every year and I paid taxes on my income after the exempted portion. I agree these anchor baby citizens should similarly pay their taxes like I had to....or relinquish their citizenship rights.

JudyC's avatar

Same here. My folks paid US taxes, albeit at that reduced rate, for over 30 years (15+ yrs in Venezuela & 15 yrs in Libya). I remember my dad grousing the US government always got their share one way or another!

Donna O's avatar

My thoughts exactly! Tax them fully. Being an American should not be free.

Donna O's avatar

All U.S. citizens and permanent residents living abroad must file annual federal tax returns reporting their worldwide income, regardless of where they live. The United States is one of only two countries that taxes based on citizenship rather than residency.While you are legally required to file, you will rarely end up paying taxes to the IRS. The U.S. has mechanisms to protect expats from double taxation, including the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) and the Foreign Tax Credit (FTC). You must file a return to claim these benefits.Additionally, expats are subject to strict foreign asset reporting rules, such as filing a Report of Foreign Bank and Financial Accounts (FBAR) if the aggregate value of your foreign financial accounts exceeds $10,000 at any time during the year.

ItsMeAgain's avatar

THIS IS BRILLIANT! Well done Sir!

Susan Daniels's avatar

Biden flew them here for free and without any name on the manifest.

Scott's avatar

Yeah, this. WTAF?

Peace's avatar

Using our money we paid in taxes. And then they were rewarded with all the freebies - healthcare, phones, prepaid cards, free lodging.

Susan Daniels's avatar

It makes me sick. I have worked all my life.

LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Makes me sick too. I will never ever vote for any Democrat.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

True. So this should nullify their residency or any assumed Citizenship! Entering in the dark of night to no-customs staffed Airports (as was done in Fresno , CA.) should be an automatic return to country of origin. This was against our Customs and Border Laws.

Unsteady's avatar

With a cell phone, credit card and hotel room - what a country.

Susan Daniels's avatar

It works best if you are an illegal alien.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

The last three days of C&C posts from Jeff Childers are precisely why I read him every day. Especially when it comes to these complex legal issues and how he cuts through all the hot take bovine excrement to help us see what is really going on.

Well done Jeff Childers.

TAW = Trump had to get the Supreme Court to finally move - one way or the other - on these critical issues so that we can finally get them resolved legislatively and/or constitutionally. It becomes more urgent we demand the House and Senate immediately move on passing Reids 1993 legislation (and now Moreno's) and the Save America Act.

And with the Supremes restoring presidential power, the deep state (independent agencies and SES', etc) created by the uniparty - to undermine the Presidency - just got deeply stuck in both jugular veins and can be bled out. Trump can now clean house. So we previously got an end to Chevron and now all of this. FAFO! TAW!

william howard's avatar

should have been a no brainer for the court (excludes the leftist) and would have put it to bed - getting thru congress is wishful thinking

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I understand your concern and somewhat agree.

But it was legislation which is the issue (in the case of birthright citizenship), not the constitution. So, congress needs to fix what they broke. Had the supreme's done it it would have energized the lunatics who have no problem with manipulating elections to achieve their desired outcome (they delusion-ally and criminally believe it to be their right to vote for anyone who doesnt), now they can't because this issue is with congress where it should be.

Same thing on mail in ballots which we all know have one reason to exist: manipulate the outcome of elections. We need the legislative solution: Save America Act.

We NEED to PUSH CONGRESS. If you have a Senator or Congressman coming up for election, now is the time to "fire" on them by advising you will not be voting for them if they dont get their work done.

And they restored Presidential Power and Trump can now kill off the deep state in detail.

Bard Joseph's avatar

"It is a government of the people, by the people, and for the people no longer. It is a government of corporations, by corporations, and for corporations." - President Rutherford B Hayes (1886)

Mitch's avatar

didn't you hear that corporations are people now legally...just with extremely limited liabilities.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Landmark Supreme Court cases, such as Citizens United v. FEC, have affirmed that corporations are protected by the First Amendment, allowing them to spend money on political speech.

Johnny-O's avatar

Fact of the matter, is that the USSC is always stacked with pro-business judges, thus, they pretty much always rule in favor of business interests, like having an ongoing population of cheap migrant labor the business class can exploit and thus make more money.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Goes back a long time. Judges belonging to the same Masonic lodge will never rule against another member.

Melissa MB's avatar

That’s a great point!

Kathy's avatar

And we taxpayers often pay for those plane tickets!

Valoree Dowell's avatar

Try moving to France from the US.

"To start, let’s address the basics. The qualifications for moving to France typically include:

A valid passport

A long-stay visa (visa de long sΓ©jour) based on your reason for staying β€” such as retirement, work, study, or joining a family member [which must be acquired BEFORE arrival]

Proof of sufficient financial means

Health insurance coverage

An address in France (yes, a yacht berth can sometimes qualify!)

Depending on your visa type, you may also need to show clean criminal records, intent to integrate into French society, and occasionally a language proficiency test (though that’s more relevant for long-term residency or citizenship)."

NanaW's avatar
Jul 2Edited

I respect all that. We should have similar expectations for those coming to America.

It just makes their fervor to import Muslim hordes who mostly don’t meet any of that criteria even more criminal and suicidal. Ditto for almost every other nation over there.

CMCM's avatar

Speaking as someone who lived and worked in two Middle Eastern Muslim countries for 10 years, I would like to see every single person who wants to import Muslim hordes be made to live in and experience life in one of these Muslim countries for a lengthy period of time in order to truly understand what they are trying to import. They would change their minds very quickly. They are most certainly NOT like us.

weedom1's avatar

How about the IVF baby farms, filling us with human herds from offshore daddies?

Skenny's avatar

The judicial branch suggested that the legislative branch (Congress) could do something if they want to. The problem is, Congress doesn't want to do anything, unless you count grifting and going on unofficial recess.

FlyingDad's avatar

Well, I’m not standing by and doing nothing: here’s what I wrote to my Congressman:

Congressman Haridopolis,

Well, The Supreme Court just handed you an assignment, redefine Birthright Citizenship. In the meantime, why don’t you stand up and introduce a bill for a COMPLETE IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM until Birthright Citizenship is properly defined as the birth to parents who are specifically already Citizens of The United States. You and your fellow Congressional Representatives have done practically nothing to solidify Trump’s initiatives for the past year. It’s time for YOU to act. It’s quite simple, IMMIGRATION MORATORIUM until you properly define Birthright Citizenship.

Respectfully,

Tina's avatar

I wrote a similar letter to my congressman 6 months ago and mysteriously it of nowhere the NJ State Nursing Board started questioning the responses on my nursing license renewal. Watch out for lawfare. The dems play dirty pool.

Mitch's avatar

scary, but not surprising.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Communism at home. Don't cross the line, komrade, we have ways to get even...

schneile's avatar

"Six ways from Sunday," right? Chuck Schumer says so!

schneile's avatar

True. It helps to live in a free state like Florida if you're going to be loud about an issue that Democrats want to keep alive.

signcut's avatar

Emails, letters, and calls to my representatives in my days of action have only ever been occasionally responded to by form response. Even that has only happened maybe 10% of the time.

They really don't care.

Mike Ware's avatar

Nope, they do not!

Momcat's avatar

I'll wager that none of the even read the mail they get - they have an aide/intern for each subject you select, & they probably toss anything that isn't in their mindset away while sending you a general form reply.

signcut's avatar

Oh, absolutely they do not; who has time for that kind of stuff with busy days of doing nothing productive in endless meetings, luncheons, dinners, and cocktail parties? They have staff to quickly skim through the garbage, pull out anything from anyone with any importance, and circular file the rest.

It just took me a while to figure that out; I used to be an optimist and believer in our government.

Mike Ware's avatar

Same here, most of my life and I’m getting up there. The PLANDEMIC and stolen 2020 β€œelections” really opened my eyes. Sadly

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

True! We had a neighbors who's children all interned in Senator Diane Feinstein's office during College. My Parents neighbor also got her son an internship in the Same office 30 years ago. Both Families were connected to the Democrat Party in Silicon Valley.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Not where the money is.

My Congreeman takes

1 million dollars from AIPAC.

Check yours at AIPAC tracker.

signcut's avatar

The idea is that their salary (which they can raise at will) is supposed to be where the money is.

That's the ideal, the reality is much different.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

California? That sounds very familiar!

David Nelson's avatar

Thanks for doing the legwork for us, Dad! "I can do this too." (Of course my senators are Ron Johnson and the-One-Who-Wanted-Me-To-Know-She-Was-A-Lesbian...)

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Don't be afraid to send it to other Senators too. I do. Hey, they come asking for me to contribute to their campaigns, works both ways.

David Nelson's avatar

Good idea! Squishy ones might appreciate the attention.

S.P.H.'s avatar

I've been denied commenting because my address (zip) is not in their district. That may have been okay prior to the 17th amendment, but now?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Send a note on paper!

Juju's avatar

Mine are hardcore, lunatic democrats in the Chicago suburbs. Any letter I send will be laughed at and trigger a canned response and how I’m wrong and they are protecting me from my error.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Still, enough letters and phone calls from voters might have some impact. At the very least they need to know we're paying attention.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Frustratingly true, Mary Ann. So often it seems like yelling in a hurricane, but numbers can affect outcome.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Mine are a revolving door of idiots anointed by the California Machine! I scarcely know who is in office from month to month. It could be the Word Salad aficionado, the Trump Russia Collusion Specialist, or the DEI De Jour place holder of the moment!

MnmMom's avatar

Agree completely. Should write and call too!

Hmm.. since their action (or inaction) affects the whole country, would it not be appropriate for all of us citizens and overburdened tax payers to send letters and make calls to all of our representatives? Maybe even more than once a week?

Post on their official social media?

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

The more engaged the citizenry, the more likely they will listen. Jenna McCarthy wrote about this today with a slightly different twist. I think I've seen you on her Substack, yes? πŸ˜ƒ

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

Have you tried to email your Congressional Representative? I wanted to CC mine on a local issue. At our meeting with our County Supervisor, it was suggested to also CC our Congress person. Well, They don't have to give out their email. One must go through one of their District Offices and first give them your email, et cetera. I'm guessing it is to check jurisdiction and avoid Bots. I've seen the Facebook page and the number of Lefty Lunatics and their 'potty mouth' attacks.

Barbara ( PortlanderπŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«)'s avatar

I sent this to my very Blue and Liberal senators. If you see something say something!

S.P.H.'s avatar

Keep fighting Barbara, while we still have the right.

Barbls's avatar

Hope you don't mind if I upload your letter to a different platform.

FlyingDad's avatar

No problem, was hoping we could really get something going with that as a template.

FlyingDad's avatar

Whether he even reads it or does anything is anyone’s guess.

Mike Ware's avatar

Good for you Dad, I would have had to swallow very hard, if at all, to write the word…. Respectfully.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

The more we watch and respond to them, the more likely they will respond. When we ignore them, they ignore us.

Skenny's avatar

Good call, FD.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

I will paste that same letter to my Rep. . . . EMMER.

Tonee norman's avatar

Thank you very much for your effort!

David Nelson's avatar

BTW, is tracking down the contact info for your representative, or Senator (or President) holding you up?

https://www.usa.gov/elected-officials

There you'll find:

Representatives: https://www.house.gov/representatives

Senators: https://www.senate.gov/senators/senators-contact.htm

President: https://www.whitehouse.gov/contact/

(I just asked an AIbot-thing "how to contact my elected representatives?")

David Nelson's avatar

I emailed Sen. John Thune (R-SD) from the link on his webpage, repeating but softening FlyingDad's template:

Hon. Mr. Thune,

The Supreme Court just handed you an assignment, redefine Birthright Citizenship which you know--given the innovative ways in which "technology", such as in vitro fertilization and surrogacy, has already been used to "game the system" and--has resulted in one Communist Chinese national "fathering" over 100 "American citizens." (I hope you can see the absurdity of a foreign national PAYING to have his sperm be used to "create" citizens in another country, and the logical end if 1000s of wealthy foreigners adopt the practice. It should never have been possible.)

While you work this out, a COMPLETE MORATORIUM ON IMMIGRATION would be both helpful and in order. Birthright Citizenship is properly defined as the birth to at least one parent who is specifically already Citizens of The United States, and represents the "proper" inheritance of citizenship from parent to offspring, and NOT, as it has been perversely used, to confer citizenship privileges on non-citizen parents.

Please solidify Trump’s initiatives for the past year, including this one. Justice Kavanaugh showed you the opening. Please use it.

Most respectfully yours,

[I tried to do the same with Speaker Mike Johnson's Contact info, but it FILTERS contacts from people "not-in-his-district." Given the Speaker's "national" role that seems short-sighted, but it suggests that it may be harder to contact "others'" representatives than first thought. My personal representative is a lost cause who is aiming to have earned a hell of reputation already by the time he gets there.]]

David Nelson's avatar

But, OF COURSE, you can send them a REAL LETTER, which PROBABLY will show more concern anyway than "dashing off an email."

June's avatar

Seems like the Senators are the ones who need to heard this. Hope you wrote them, too. Off to write mine, but I'm living in socialist Colorado. 🀬

MaryAnn's avatar

I am in Hellinois. Dickie Durb is on his way out. Will not miss him but whoever suck-cedes πŸ˜‰ him will not be different. We are seriously screwed.

schneile's avatar

Sen. Rand Paul says to CALL:

"Call your senator at (202) 224-3121 and tell them to support my Constitutional Amendment to end Birthright Citizenship. We must protect the integrity of American citizenship."

He introduced the Amendment in April, following the oral arguments.

Lisa Ricketts's avatar

So, Jeff asks them to dust off the 1993 Bill sponsored by Harry Reid, Sen. Rand Paul has one and another Senator was mentioned in today's comments. So far there are three competing pieces of legislation.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Beautiful. Mind if I use it?

Hana CL's avatar

πŸ”₯πŸ”₯πŸ”₯

Melissa Bolger's avatar

Mind if I steal your words when I call my congressman today??

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

That is the "bad" of the silver lining. We can't get the SAVE act pass, something that appears as common as common sense goes. And now from the court they give us the "well legislation can fix this."

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Which is why voting in November is imperative!

FlyingDad's avatar

True, I hope it can change.

John Baker's avatar

Well done, Flying Dad, both the letter to the Representative (which I will adapt and send to mine) and the β€œhope and change” pun.

Surf Monster's avatar

Yes, but that sounds a bit too much like Obamaβ€¦πŸ˜Ž

FlyingDad's avatar

Haha. Didn’t see that at first. Oops

schneile's avatar

Not fully true; the following members have already taken action in one form or another:

Sen. Rand Paul (KY)

Sen. Bernie Moreno (OH)

Rep. Andy Ogles (TN)

Check their socials...

Cows And Guns's avatar

No visa of any type without a negative pregnancy test!

Patti joliet's avatar

That just captures some of the birth tourism. We need to stop the ones that become pregnant here too.

Juju's avatar
Jul 1Edited

Yes that’s the bigger problem. In order for the illegal parents to get to stay they give birth on our soil to avoid deportation. How many millions? Just 2023 alone had over 320,000 illegal births. It makes an average of 250,000 PER YEAR. How many is that after 10 years? After 20? Millions. More than enough to swing elections given most swing by less than 50,000 votes.

Dena's avatar

I wonder how many of these wombs for rent are American citizens renting them out to the highest bidder? I bet that’s sadly part of the story & a flourishing business. Another whack a mole problem. How can it be legal, ethical & moral to use artificial insemination to create thousands or millions of human beings with no mother or father to raise them? To probably be institutionalized & used for other nefarious & evil purposes as well. A sick sordid business with our country continuing to provide the incentives.

Momcat's avatar

and all are lined up to receive govt goodies. sheesh....

S.P.H.'s avatar

And surrogate women? Does the child belong to the biological parent(s) or the surrogate? Or God forbid, the state? These children are being abused and used before they are ever born.

Science has outpaced the constitution in many ways, I wish that is what the SC and legislators would focus on. I know, it can be a double edged sword. Original intent must carry some weight in these decisions.

WTPuck's avatar

I should have read farther.

CStone's avatar

And, since the left thinks that β€˜men can get pregnant’ the β€˜men’ need to be tested too!!!!

S.P.H.'s avatar

😳

I guess if Buttigieg can breast feed...

CStone's avatar

πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

Porge's avatar

Ha! Good one C Stone!🀣

Jamison's avatar

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Politico Phil's avatar

Visas are a problem also. The mass migration into the US wasn't just a Biden event. Mass migration was first facilitated under Pres Reagan with the beginning of the VISA program.

J Boss's avatar

And required renewal with negative test every 3 minutes nthd, subject to immediate deportation. And if no test, child doesn't get citizenship.

WTPuck's avatar

Doesn't prevent them from getting pregnant here.

JenniferS's avatar

No Visas for women of gestational age?

Bare-Faced Plague-Spreader's avatar

Reminds me of the Neil Boortz argument that when the bathroom is flooding the first thing you don't do is start bailing water, you turn off the water.

FlyingDad's avatar

Not if it’s a complete moratorium. Just stop ALL of it for a while, it’s totally insane right now.

Phyllis's avatar

We have done that before , I believe, so there should be precedent.

WTPuck's avatar

There is. So no one can whine about "norms and traditions." Neither of which have the force of law.

Mrs. SOB's avatar

Yes, we still have Presidential discretion under Β§1182(f) - the infamous and badly named "muslim ban." He can keep out ANY class of Alien for as long as he deems necessary to national interest. It was done by Carter (no Iranians) and others, including Trump 45.

WP William's avatar

It's all as planned. What mess?

Politico Phil's avatar

How about we simply deport all the illegals here now... all 100 million of them?

The fact that we are not mass deporting the illegal aliens tells me this is all distraction. The valid issue of birthright citizenship is entirely secondary to the mass invasion issue which is a clear and present danger to America.

There is one test that would tell me that the Administration is serious about the mass invasion of America: build the long-promised border wall and dismantle the migration infrastructure that the Biden regime built and used to facilitate the invasion of the US. This invasion infrastructure still exists and can be turned back on with the flip of a switch.

Until we do that, all of this birthright argument is futile. Where is The Wall?

Laura Scott's avatar

Being built - last I heard

Johnny-O's avatar

Just like the Strait being opened? It blows my mind how readily people blindly believe the words of politicians.

daverkb's avatar

I don't know about the 100 million figure. One hundred million gone poof instantaneously, so it would seem, is a recipe for total economic and social order collapse.

But Trump by all indications seen is doing more a re-jiggering of the old order than any all out MAGA style restoration to systemic health. We are after all, and unabashedly remain, a full terror total surveillance state much like the GDR was under the Stasi, only worse by magnitudes of degree.

That is, and as an overt example, if we were doing MAGA aspirations then there would have been no failed Iran misadventure. And this is only one major recent example.

Johnny-O's avatar

I live in AZ and I am generally happy when I see a latino fella showing up to do labor at our home, because I know they are going to work their ass off - and that is generally the case.

Politico Phil's avatar

The same is true here in FL Whether they came here legally or sneaked in from Mexico and Latin America, they came here to work and were from cultures that were not hostile to American culture or Christianity and often repatriated their earnings back home to support their families. This has been going on for decades.

What happened under Biden's four years was an act of war. The mass movement of populations has always been a primary weapon of warfare and a weapon of choice for collapsing the enemy's society. Under Biden, we saw the USG facilitate a mass invasion of people from war-torn Islamic countries of the Subcontinent such as Somalia. This was an attack... an open declaration of war on America organized by our own Gov't. These people did not come here to work. They came for the free handouts. They came to take and they brought the violence of their home countries with them. These are not Mexicans. These are people who openly hate America and want to tear us apart and make America "their" land, to re-create Somalia and the Islamic culture they came from.

I have no idea how many illegals actually came in during Biden's four years but it is obviously much more than estimated. The border patrol can only report how many they saw "get away". They have no idea how many have actually come into America. The very low estimate of 50 million illegal "immigrants" under Biden is but a teaser. How many of them consider themselves to be Islamic enemies of America, one can only guess.

The point is this. We are at war and we don't even realize it. But now the mass invasion is a fait accompli. The enemy is no longer at our gates. They are in our backyard. The next phase of this war will likely result in kinetic violence inside the US. And there IS going to be a next phase. This is a continuous war.

The one commentator that has been consistently correct on this issue is Michael Yon....

https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/total-war-us-troops-heading-forward

Politico Phil's avatar

What? And no Trump photo-op? And where are the promised mass deportations?

When it comes to the invasion, all I've seen is lip service. The Reflecting Pool gets more attention than this existential issue.

Matt L.'s avatar

How about the US require a negative pregnancy test 10 days prior to travel to US or US territory (like Saipan!) for all women under the age of 60? Make it inconvenient for many, like the TSA groping grandmas at airport security. We can then call it the β€˜Roberts Requirement’. Because like our Chief Justice, these foreign national women also have no cojones.

There is precedent for this that SCOTUS has approved and requires no congressional approval. Negative COVID test was previously required for entry into US. Now we have a new health disqualification, which are Chinese & Russians with buns in the oven.

bao bao no bueno Meiguo

Jack Bergeron's avatar

^^^ Control immigration and it’s a non-issue.

Howard Carter's avatar

How about ending chain migration? I think if we do so, birth tourism will be a lot less attractive.

Jay Horton's avatar

Wow! That's just too logical. Let's plug the hole before we start bailing the boat.

Later Jay

KHP's avatar

As long as the moratorium lasts 50 years or so, count me in.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

An immigration moratorium is exactly what US House Rep Chip Roy introduced last year. H.R. 6225 is called the PAUSE Act, one of the reasons libs and RINOS lied about Chip and cost Texas a hard-charging, God-fearing AG to follow and outshine even Ken Paxton. Unfortunately, low information voters struck again.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

I hope for Your salvation, O LORD,

And do Your commandments.

My soul keeps Your testimonies,

And I love them exceedingly.

I keep Your precepts and Your testimonies,

For all my ways are before You.

β€” Psalm 119:166-168 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

Unsteady's avatar

The most inspiring words I have ever heard.

Shawn Christopher Phillips's avatar

The SCOTUS decision taking down President Trump’s birthright citizenship order has just presented US citizen couples with the opportunity of a lifetime to adopt anchor babies. Wait… what…

It would be hard to fathom that the US government would allow law-breaking non-citizen foreigners to abscond with β€œinfant American citizens.” Right?

Let it be known forthwith that if one illegally enters the US while pregnant intending to give birth on US soil - you will be deported, and we will keep our new citizen to be adopted out afterwith. Thank you for your attention to this matter.

Daniel Agius SR's avatar

β€œIt would be hard to fathom that the US government would allow law-breaking non-citizen foreigners to abscond with β€œinfant American citizens.” Right?”” I LOVE THIS!!!

Valerie's avatar

This is an interesting idea. My thought was that this ruling just makes it obvious that all illegals must be deported immediately and zero pregnant women be allowed to visit the US, but you’ve taken it a step further.

DaveL's avatar

Makes some sense, if we accept they’re under the jurisdiction of whatever country they came from.

However, anyone residing in the US, citizen or not, is under the direct, practical jurisdiction of the US. Which makes it even easier to deport those here illegally, provided we have the proper legislation that the Executive branch is supposed to enforce.

Rightly So's avatar

"Proper legislation" are the two key words. Unfortunately, our current Congressional critters have demonstrated time after time that they no longer appear capable of performing their duties. In other words, they don't do sh*t after being elected other than suck a paycheck out of "The People" while providing zero (-0-) in exchange. Oh, sure, we get their little sound bites while showboating in the "Halls of Congress." Yet, tell me one significant Bill they have written, voted upon, and passed in the last year that actually helps do anything FOR AMERICA! Hell, they can't even pass a Bill supported by 85% of Americans (BOTH Dems & Repubs) that requires ID to vote. WTF?? Just saying. Apparently it all stems back to Accountability for Actions (or lack of) - and until that happens, the "charade will continue." In the meantime, all I can say in closing is, "Good luck" and buy more ammo!

signcut's avatar

The legislation exists; the will in DC to enforce it does not.

WP William's avatar

In addition, a tariff or fee of $100,000 each non-aborted-fetal-person delivered, will be assessed to the country of origin of the mother--i mean birth-person

striketheroot's avatar

Not a problem in our era of "imaginary currency" and exploding global "debt" Just add a few zeros and it's all good.

JBell's avatar

Unless, of course, they will denounce/revoke the US citizenship of the child!

WP William's avatar

Yes, an IMMEDIATE Requirement of Loyalty Oath, attested to proclamation of Citizenship for their Gender-assigned newborn; and online classes in their primary language of Citizenship replete with expectations, requirements, responsibilities, duties, and obligations that the parent(s) MUST oversee and submit within a year and then annually until the CITIZEN's 18th birthday. Failure of parent to comply and also attain Citizenship no later than 18 years after the birth, fully forfeits THEIR status, which then reverts back to the country or shithole of origin and deportation and more fines, fees, and penalties assessed to them as well as their destination nation.

Dianne Skagen McBeth's avatar

The costs to administer this would be staggering.

WP William's avatar

Which is why the $100k fee assessed to the Nations of origin.

Dianne Skagen McBeth's avatar

How could that be enforced? What if the nation of origin refused? I just don’t understand how this would be a solution.

WP William's avatar

fine, put it on their UNPAID column to amount owed to USA. Dis-incentivization. As opposed to free transportation, a free phone with resettlement app, free lawyers, free food, Free housing and guns, no requirements for anyone invited to invade the nation by those Dems operating their own custom Immigration Policies in Sanctuary States and Cities in violation of the US Constitution. An H1B and Tariff type Policy enforced at the street level and on the global economic stage concurrently.

ValerieKay's avatar

Which I understand, but if they still LIVE or reside here in this country, they are taking up accommodations that are much needed for others who need places to live. They need to not be allowed in and/or to stay.

Juju's avatar
Jul 1Edited

Or … I read a clever idea that doesn’t leave us with the costs of raising so many babies. Citizens overseas must file taxes still. Find all of them and fine them exorbitant amounts of penalties, or charge them backtaxes owed, for not doing so - unless they denounce their citizenship. Watch how fast they give it up.

Elaine Mausbach's avatar

Shawn, I love all of your throw-it-against-the-wall brain storming suggestions and the responses which followed. So much common sense in the citizenship communities. Plus, Jeff's positivity always keeps me from despondency. America is still worth celebrating and thanking God His blessings on us.

It doesn't take Sherlock's avatar

And while we are at it, plan to build federal orphanages for the little 'citizens' near the homes of the judges who were part of this atrocious 'ruling'. It's time these feckless bench sitters feels some impact for their unwise 'rulings'. This isn't an aristocracy.

signcut's avatar

Parents of a USC can be deported, but generally are not. The (poor) reasoning is that, by law, citizens cannot be deported. Of course, the child is not deported, but taken with the parents to be cared for. They absolutely could leave the child here, but don't.

Expecting logic from leftists or governments is generally a lost cause.

WP William's avatar

REQUIREMENTS must immediately be demanded of the INvading Scammers, (or "tourist-dreamers"). The Foreign-Fetus turned Citizen-baby gets a pass other than a mass of vaccinations and SNAP-provided diapers and soy-based formula. Parent(s) get to step up immediately and for the next 18 years, or face fines, fees, penalties with interest.

signcut's avatar

While I understand your point, it also relies on the assumption that Congress would be even vaguely interested in doing any of those items.

History suggests not.

Aside from the immediate lawsuits, likely arguing unequal protection under the law, as some 'citizens" would have requirements others do not.

WP William's avatar

The onus is on the Non-Citizen parent(s) NOT the US Citizen minor.

Correct, Congress enjoys exploiting and screwing the Citizenry at the expense of the Republic and Constitution more than anything else

signcut's avatar

It is almost a certainty that it would be fought (and sold to the rubes) as being unfair to the child, just as deporting the parents who take the child with them is portrayed as de facto deporting the child.

But it is really a moot point; Congress will do nothing, so it will never come up.

WP William's avatar

Should we NOT DEMAND Equal rights, benefits, representation, consideration, and accommodations as the Newcomers trafficked and resettled here by OUR Elected Government and the careerist entrenched hirelings doing the dirty work in co-operation with NGOs and Cartels?

signcut's avatar

Certainly we 'can' demand such, but since we literally have little to no representation or voice in the matter and those who infest Congress and DC don't care to do much/anything about it, then that really doesn't leave many options.

Said it before, I'll say it again: Your. Government. Hates. You.

WP William's avatar

They mock and ignore and disregard us even as they go onward with their plans and hustle us "stakeholders" for our community input

Alan Devincentis's avatar

That’s basically how they’ve defined it. Make a baby here for citizenship, you leave it here. Buhbye.

Barbls's avatar

Shawn - please post this formula on cabinet X accounts!

WP William's avatar

So many weird Hollywood couples are waiting to adopt foreign-ish children in order to diversify and inclusivize them into the Woke Cult. Great way to make every child a wanted child and promote parenting in the Anti-Life Community.

The Great Santini's avatar

That’s a brilliant idea.

Padrig's avatar

How about the birthright citizens that already have been absconded be required to register for the draft or have their "citizenship" terminated?

That's what "Subject to the jurisdiction thereof" means right? They are subjects. β€œSubject to the jurisdiction thereof” means being fully bound by U.S. law and owing allegiance to the United States. So? If they enlist in a foreign military, they should be tried for treason the same as any ordinary citizen.

Sue Kelley's avatar

Visas may only be issued for 3 months. Pregnancy test prior to Visa and immediately upon arrival in customs. A positive test cancels your Visa and you are deported home immediately. Lying on your application bans you from the US forever. Becoming pregnant while visiting is immediate revocation of your Visa, you are deemed here illegally and immediately deported. All costs incurred including hospital bills and deportation costs will be paid by your country of origin in the form of deductions from any aid or monies provided to your country.

Matt L.'s avatar

And call these new rules the β€˜Roberts Requirement’

L Harber's avatar

This will make the left immediately pro-life at conception. They cannot say it’s ok to deport the new US citizen and not say it’s a human being.

Demonhype's avatar

It has to come to term and be actually born before citizenship kicks in though. Which is why its not called conception citizenship.

Juju's avatar

I like this idea best

ValerieKay's avatar

I'm quite sure these people can figure out how to "game" the system. Keeping them out completely is a better solution.

James Goodrich's avatar

Well more wonderful news from the Supreme Court yesterday. How do we put lipstick on this PIG? Sorry I’m a bit tired of every disastrous policy, outrageous law, tax spending, deficit raising idea put into motion gets kicked down the road again and again to be fixed later. If we haven’t noticed nothing ever gets fixed!

Who could ever think the writers of the 14th amendment, written just after the civil war in 1866 and ratified in 1868, would agree with the notion of birth tourist, many from enemy countries like China, coming to America, having children, getting citizenship for their child and then going back home. 36,000 births a year is the last stat taken, I’m sure with Roberts and Barrett’s decision, this number will increase twofold, at least. Later, for now, when the child comes back to the states the parents are able to get a type of green card status as the child’s guardian. So if we are to believe the founders intention of the 14th amendment was to let pregnant woman into America so their newborn could be a citizen of America, are we to believe the civil war was not fought over mainly freeing the slaves, but the right for foreigners to come here have children in our country that then become citizens? That is an asinine and a country destroying abrogation of the original intent of the law. As Steven Miller said yesterday β€œCitizenship means nothing if it is open to anyone”. I don’t care what anyone says this is an outrageous abortion of the authors intent and to throw gasoline on the fire, from what I understand, the Supreme Court also threw in that congress cannot add restrictions to their ruling, it can only be done with an amendment. Good luck with that.

So I ask, when we have a whole political party that wants anyone and everyone to illegally come into America, possibly a billion people, and a Supreme Court that devalues being a tax paying law abiding citizen, devaluing people that may want to serve in the military, what is the reason to be a proud American? Or working my ass off, paying my taxes for, for what? So people from all over the world can walk across our border and receive more, better benefits than my family and I have ever gotten or could ever imagine? This is socialism on steroids. I’m trying to understand the benefit too the American citizens that has worked their whole life, paid tens of thousands possibly millions in taxes, served or had family serve putting their life on the line, some being killed, some being disabled, all to protect our freedoms, and anyone can just come into this country maybe have a kid and get more benefits than the pawns, like myself. I say abolish the Supreme Court or at least recall these 5 compromised traitor scumbag lawyers on it that have the intent to destroy America from within their chambers. .

J.Goodrich

Patti's avatar

I can feel your post ❀️ I don’t disagree with you it’s exhausting and disappointing but we push forward and try another angle πŸ’ͺπŸ½πŸ‡ΊπŸ‡Έ

James Goodrich's avatar

Trump needs to militarize the border and shut down or drastically restrict people coming here on flights from all around the world. He has this authority. Fight fire with fire. If we don’t America is destined to have possibly a quarter million citizen babies born here per year. It will be the death of America.

Patti's avatar

I think I could be wrong the border is shut down still? I am not hearing crossings? I think limiting tourist visas to any pregnant person is a great idea until we can get congress to pass it. Inconvenience others and not Americans. I’m feeling like a hard ass but stop the bleeding already

James Goodrich's avatar

I don’t think putting the military on the southern and β€œNorthern” border is a bad idea. Also put them in airports. Stop all of this BS and let’s see what Roberts Barrett and Kavanaugh do then. At least for now it will stop this nonsense.

ValerieKay's avatar

I particularly appreciated that TSA staff stopped the two agents carrying "vials" (stupid), headed to a lab. But I've yet to see any follow up about investigating the labs -- within the US -- Hamilton, MT, somewhere in KS and I don't know where else. But they need to go...

Patti's avatar

I know never any follow up on a lot that is reported! I’m still wondering about the Vegas car bomb follow up. Hello? Was the MKultra? I feel like some follow up, actual real follow up would help

shayne's avatar

There has to be a way to track people while in country. A system of passport record in, passport record out. Something to red flag people who have stayed past their visa, and they go on a wanted list.

Debra's avatar

When I first read this I saw, "Stop the breeding already". That works too. :)

Patti's avatar

We can have both 🀣

Dianne Skagen McBeth's avatar

Not American, but deeply concerned about the bigger picture - the ways in which western societies are being systematically demolished. Citizenship means absolutely nothing to the WEF in its tyrannical quest for a one-world, totalitarian regime. So called β€œsocial justice” is a lie as Justice needs no modifier.

FlyingDad's avatar

Building a real wall instead of wasting billions on another endless war would have been more productive

AP's avatar

And we’ll be paying the freight.

Valerie's avatar

Agreed. I’m tired of the black pilled people. Do they think the country has never faced crises before? Even in life we learn and improve through the things that fail to work out as we’d hoped. But if we learn from them, try a different direction, take a smaller step, we will come out ahead in the long run. I have no patience for defeatists.

Jeff Johnson's avatar

Me neither! President Trump gets shot in the ear and does what? Give up? No. "Fight, fight, fight!"

Kat D's avatar

I’m willing to fight until the end but the demographic change that is coming with the boomers leaving and the legal immigrants and their offspring from the 1965 Hart Celler is going to be a hill that we may not be able to climb

Juju's avatar

What made my eyes widen was Justice Robert’s literally saying β€œsince we can’t know the original intent of the 14th amendment wording”. Oh but we can! The author of it left writings explaining it all! But Robert’s wants to punish them for not making it precisely clear in the actual amendments chosen words, even though they never fathomed it needed more clarification. Still they provided explanations that make it crystal clear, and Robert’s chose to completely ignore them. That’s how I know he’s a dishonest judge, because he twisted his reasoning like that to get away with voting against the EO.

ValerieKay's avatar

You are spot-on. There are many, many early writings about the constitution. I'm surprised he said 'we can't know that'. Just interpret it. You're a judge for goodness sake.

Juju's avatar

Exactly, if he β€œcan’t know that” then he should step down, as he is clearly unqualified for the job at hand

Momcat's avatar

and the Jefferson Danbury letter is mis-quoted as Constitutional law all the time! No one ignores the Danbury letter, why these documents?

william howard's avatar

if there ever was any doubt Roberts is compromised (blackmailed) this opinion removes all doubt- I hope Trump has the goods to get this traitor off the court while there is time to replace him with a patriot

SHug's avatar

I could see Ron DeSantis being a good justice, and hardcore on the Constitution.

schneile's avatar

And he will soon have some time on his schedule! #LoveMyGov

Steenroid's avatar

His last pick wasn’t too good. Just saying.

pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Maybe you missed the point Kav. made whereas the exec. order is not against the Constitution but rather the later Law Congress authored. I make this same point above but to restate:

Kav. blew it. He READ the statute but recommended that Congress simply revise it. However, in reading the statute(which I did just now) it is too OBVIOUS to any human with half a brain that the context of various paragraphs indicate -- already-- that unless ONE parent at least is already a citizen the baby cannot be considered a citizen.

and, noting Dingy Harry Reid's old discarded bill that is being championed now, it stated exactly THAT@!

My point: It is ridiculous(in my little mind) that any discussion is necessary. The context of the later law which Kavanaugh himself pointed out basically SAYS what is needed, screams this conclusion.

He only needed to have the balls to say this. . . and vote with common sense.

Sunnydaze's avatar

Except you can’t do that when they have something on you πŸ™„. So, they play with their words and circle them around each other, hide behind them, toss them into a salad and then laugh at us because we can’t figure out what the Hek is going on in the country. It’s all phony bought and paid for crap. Congress will NEVER do anything. They can’t even pass a bill that most of the country is begging for. They just play their games and cash their paycheck while they head off on another paid vacation. πŸ˜’

Bitsy54's avatar

I sold copiers to County offices in CA from 1980’s thru 2011. One of my departments, Vital Records, was very happy to have a copying machine that electronically deleted information on birth parents: legal status, country of origin, etc. The full birth record was saved somewhere under lock and key, the only information publicly available was devoid of the parents’ legal status in the USA. SO, good luck pulling birth certificates to verify legal citizenship of the anchor baby.

Jen's avatar

yup, this is exactly how we're all feeling and it's why everyone is so furious right now. I'm a little afraid of what they're going to ask of us in order to "fix" it.

Bitsy54's avatar

It doesn’t matter what WE are subjected to, just like Clot Shots, the high and mighty don’t follow the law.

ValerieKay's avatar

Amen and amen! I'm a very proud citizen with ancestry dating back to the Mayflower. My ancestors wanted religious freedom and freedom from England's tyranny (which still flows towards the US, BTW). And they had it -- for awhile. There are so many citizens today - legitimate and illegitimate - who haven't a clue what any of our holidays are about, why we would celebrate the 4th of July, Flag Day, Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Juneteenth, etc. Is there a saying about 'those who don't know history are doomed to repeat it'?

Kat D's avatar
Jul 1Edited

β€˜are we to believe the civil war was not fought over mainly freeing the slaves’

It wasn’t sold to the populace that way. The machinations of the radical republicans may or may not have had that in mind but if they had stated white men were to slaughter friend and family to free the slaves it never would have happened.

James Goodrich's avatar

The South believed their starting the war was over states rights. I guess in a way it was. Southern democrats believed they had a right through their democrat states to own black people. The union disagreed.

Melissa MB's avatar

Exactly. When I moved here to the south, that’s what I heard. It was all about state’s rights. I asked, what rights were y’all fighting for? The right to own slaves. Exactly! So it was about freeing the slaves.

Kat D's avatar

No. 1 there’s no way I believe southern people said that to you unless they were carpetbaggers like yourself.

No. 2 there was a lot of things going on at the time; here’s a link that, the inflammatory title notwithstanding, makes the situation more clear. You probably won’t read it which is fine because it’s rather lengthy but it’s out there for open minds. https://michaelofamerica.substack.com/p/the-south-was-right?r=2819du&utm_medium=ios

No. 3 you didn’t address my comment; it wasn’t sold to normie joe blow to go kill other white men, of whom some were family members, to free slaves. There’s a reason Lincoln didn’t drag out the proclamation until a lot of blood had been shed and people had a hatred built up in the outcome.

No. 4 I didn’t deny slavery had a part to play or wasn’t included in the reasons.

No.5 Matt Walsh does a fine job of connecting the cause back to John Browns raid https://youtu.be/BLdyMPptl6Q?is=xtwUhhTH9z3ll7-V

No.6 β€˜Owning people’ was a lawful practice and was the actual global norm at the time. Presentism is a terrible way to view history.

From historian Peter Brown

β€˜History, for me, has always been something more than a discipline β€” more than a set of problems to be solved, a narrative to be put together from bits and pieces of evidence about the past. It is, rather, a perpetual awareness of living beside an immense, strange country whose customs must be treated by the traveler from the present with respect, as often very different from our own; and whose aspirations, fears, and certitudes, though they may seem alien to us and to have turned pale with the passing of time, must be treated as having once run in the veins of men and women in the past with all the energy of living flesh and blood. I learned from Laurence that the aim of the historian was not simply to argue about the past; it was to bring that past alive β€” to recover a lost world.’

You as an adult should have gained enough wisdom to understand that nothing is simplistic when it comes to human interactions.

SHug's avatar

Thank you for that link to MichaelofAmerica. I wasn't aware of him. Great writing and a great history lesson for all.

Beckadee's avatar

If only people will read it.

Beckadee's avatar

Excellent. Particular relevant is the final section on Patrick Cleburne. From Michael of America.

"Patrick Cleburne likewise proved prophetical in his critiques of Lincoln and the Radical Republicans. In his January 1864 memorandum, Cleburne warned that β€œevery man should endeavor to understand the meaning of subjugation before it is too late… it means the loss of liberty, property, and all that makes life worth living.” Cleburne clearly understood what Southern defeat entailed. Contrary to General Lee’s optimistic, good-faith engagement in reconciliation efforts, Cleburne knew better than most that the North would enact its wrath on the South and her descendants. Prophetically, Cleburne warned:"

"Surrender means that the history of this heroic struggle will be written by the enemy, that our youth will be trained by Northern school teachers; learn from Northern school books THEIR version of the war, and taught to regard our gallant dead as traitors and our maimed veterans as fit subjects of derision."

Mike Gustine's avatar

Except that if you read the constitution of the confederacy, slavery is mentioned many times. It's also mentioned in Correspondence, editorials, and some, though not all, of the documents relating to the Ordinance of Secession. It's clear that slavery was the biggest issue for them, though certainly not the only one.

Proberta's avatar

Actually the Civil War was created because of the ports. The South had all those great ports thru the calmer gulf waters while the North's ports faced the brutal Atlantic. And as more trade routes opened, the South was getting all the trade.

So Slavery was fomented as the political trigger to incite war and the North (the Bankers) won and got all the ports..

James Goodrich's avatar

Is that not part of states rights?

Karmy's avatar

James I read this bit yesterday and I’m surprised that it wasn’t taken into consideration by the SC

During the congressional debate over the amendment in 1866, Senator Jacob Howard said that automatic citizenship would include everyone born here except those β€œwho are foreigners, aliens, who belong to the families of ambassadors or foreign ministers.”

https://www.aei.org/articles/duel-over-birthright-citizenship-misses-the-mark/

MaryAnn Markowitz's avatar

Wow, on one hand who can disagree with anything you say. But we will never have wins with this negative attitude. We have to have our message down, meet your neighbors and win at the ground level.

I agree with Jeff, I think many of our side is addicted to the rage.

James Goodrich's avatar

Maybe rage is needed. For years, decades, the right keeps saying we’ll get em when we control both houses and the presidency! Well we now supposedly control that and the Supreme Court but yet we think down the road Thune and the rest of the rino traitors will fix this. This is like shining a turd. Let me ask was the rage of the original patriots out of line when having to pay taxation without being represented in the English parliament? If you ask me 80% of the people are against this decision, a bigger percentage on clean elections. Should we not be outraged when time after time the peoples will is ignored. If we keep ignoring what is happening, and keep saying we’ll fix it next time, or I got my check so I’m good for the next month, don’t be surprised when people are voluntarily getting on the cattle cars being railed off to the camps. Soon your money will have zero value. Maybe that’s what it will take for you to become outraged, well maybe not….

MaryAnn Markowitz's avatar

Trust me, I am outraged. You can only imagine how many times I called Thunes office and rallied neighbors. This is a wasted effort. Meeting neighbors and letting them know they are not alone and our votes count is something. I believe we have to put our energy and money behind the young warriors who are fighting.

GregWA's avatar

Jeff, I challenge you to identify one quantum of optimism in the sentence "Let Congress do its job."

Congress has not been doing it's job for all of this Century and at least 1/3 of the last one. Why do you think they will start now?

Too many socialists, RINOs, grifters, predators, and swamp rats.

I would happily accept 100,000 Chinese babies as new citizens if we could get a Congress that functions like Trump 2.0. And I don't mean as conservative, just action oriented, at least as much as you can get majorities of 535 reasonable people (that's what I want in this bargain, not what we have) to agree on anything.

william howard's avatar

well it was what only 50+ years to get Roe where it belongs - so what another 50 years for the globalists/ communists to destroy the country

CCPatriot470's avatar

Well, this puts even more pressure on Thune to lift the filibuster. And, if it’s lifted then SAVE America Act and this statute can get done…if not, they’ve exposed themselves in the worst possible way. Trump is right to remind everyone that the Democrats have every intention of getting rid of the filibuster if they are in the majority. Thune is a word that means cat, which I will not write because it’s vulgar.😀

Todd's avatar

The torch has been passed to Congress so many times. What will be different now?

Valerie's avatar

FOR REAL. They do nothing.

Todd's avatar

This is the distraction Valerie. Same play every time.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qetW6R9Jxs4

Jeff Johnson's avatar

Sorry, guess I'm too dense to understand the point of the link you share. Good music, but...

Todd's avatar

I grew up listening to Steve Winwood.

Beckadee's avatar

Steve Winwood is awesome. This Swedish DJ, not so much.

Jacquijacq's avatar

Jeff, do you HONESTLY think Congress will do its job?!?!? That’d be a first. They RUN from accomplishment - SAVE ACT anyone?!?!? Phony Barrett is either a plant from the left or she is being threatened. Either way SHE SUCKS

Tom Bernard's avatar

As serious and on target as your comment was, it made me laugh; just as I did when when Barrett was celebrated because she was a conservative Christian. I knew then she would be, (at best) useless... but much more likely: destructive... She's far too weak, afraid. and intellectually unstable.

Willing Spirit's avatar

The virtue signaling of adopting Haitian children was a tell from the beginning.

Juju's avatar
Jul 1Edited

Not as much as Robert’s. And Barrett is under his tutelage so to speak. She is controlled by him. At least that’s how I see it

Primum non nocere's avatar

Congress is a Uniparty. It is not a credible Third Branch of our Constitutional Republic. The idea that such a Uniparty will "fix" the 14th Amendment via legislation is a fool's errand.

Never. Will. Happen.

THE 14TH AMENDMENT WAS FOR THE PATRIATION OF THE SLAVES AND THEIR CHILDREN IN REPSONSE TO DRED SCOTT.

IT WAS NOT DRAFTED FOR EVERY PREGNANT WOMEN IN THE ENTIRE WORLD.

Robert's just did with the 14th Amendment that he did to Obamacare. He created "law" from the Judicial Branch.

Obamacare by "declaring it a tax"

Birth Right by utterly ignoring Dred Scott

He is worse than Kentanji DEI Brown. At least she is too dumb to realize she is wrong.

CStone's avatar

No. It isn’t a uniparty.

We are NOT like the demonicRATS.

The only ones β€˜unified’ with the RAT party, were ALWAYS RATS.

These demonRATS run under the cover of the lie of being a β€˜conservative’ because they cannot win running as a demoRAT……..and then they are revealed as RINOS.

There are plenty of REAL Republicans, but not enough to overcome the threshold with RINOS in the mix.

Praying that people will understand the importance of getting out to vote in November.

Primum non nocere's avatar

I have two direct lineage descendants who fought in the Revolutionary War.

I often wonder how they would view the current state of the USA.

Bard Joseph's avatar

SCOTUS needs to rule on campaign finance of Congress

as well as the Federal Reserve right to print money.

Primum non nocere's avatar

Refer to the McFadden Act of 1927 for how to abolish the Fed.

The Act made permanent the Federal Reserve. The Federal Reserve was originally just temporary. It was to end within 15yrs BUT the Act made it permanent.

McFadden ironically was a staunch opponent to the concept of a Fed Reserve. Here is a speech he gave to congress. He died of a sudden "stomach ailment" not long after giving the speech.

"Mr. Chairman, we have in this country one of the most corrupt institutions the world has ever known. I refer to the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks. The Federal Reserve Board, a Government board, has cheated the Government of the United States out of enough money to pay the national debt. The depredations and the iniquities of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal reserve banks acting together have cost this country enough money to pay the national debt several times over. This evil institution has impoverished and ruined the people of the United States; has bankrupted itself, and has practically bankrupted our Government. It has done this through defects of the law under which it operates, through the maladministration of that law by the Federal Reserve Board and through the corrupt practices of the moneyed vultures who control it.

From the Atlantic to the Pacific our country has been ravaged and laid waste by the evil practices of the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks and the interests which control them … This is an era of economic misery, and for the conditions that caused that misery, the Federal Reserve Board and the Federal Reserve banks are fully liable.

The imperial power of elasticity of the public currency is wielded exclusively by the central corporations owned by the banks. This is a life and death power over all local banks and all business. It can be used to create or destroy prosperity, to ward off or cause stringencies and panics. By making money artificially scarce, interest rates throughout the Country can be arbitrarily raised and the bank tax on all business and cost of living increased for the profit of the banks owning these regional central banks, and without the slightest benefit to the people. The 12 Corporations together cover and monopolize and use for private gain every dollar of the public currency and all public revenue of the United States. Not a dollar can be put into circulation among the people by their Government, without the consent of and on terms fixed by these 12 private money trusts.'”

Patti's avatar

Good morning C&C the month we celebrate America β€οΈπŸ€πŸ’™

mspring's avatar

It seemed to me that the words "subject" and "to" got short shrift in the discussion (though justice Thomas book length dissent may show different). I didn't hear anyone dissecting what was included/reqired of being subject to a jurisdiction, though my recollection of being "subject to" a king entailed much more than just being in the vicinity.

Phillip Zinni III DO FAOASM's avatar

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Margot Wooster's avatar

God bless Jeff Childers! Talking us down from the ledge again. I’m not done reading the column yet, but what a joy to hear Jeff refer to Reid as β€œDingy Harry” 😁. Shades of the late, great Rush Limbaugh.

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Just yesterday (I think), I wrote about how much I miss Rush! Dingy Harry Reid, Plugs Biden, Chuck-U Schumer, etc.

Mrs. "the Knife"

SHug's avatar
Jul 1Edited

I lived in northern NV for over 20 yrs. I hated Harry Reid and his obvious criminal behavior. I could not conceive how he was kept in office. I laughed loudly when he was beat up by his CCP overlords (they said he fell down stairs); it was 2014 directly after his attempted take over of the Bundy Ranch fell through. Everyone was pissed that he had armed the BLM with not only pistols, but heavy arms and was moving to confiscate land from an American citizen, on behalf of a Chinese company. But his son was just as greedy as old Dad (guess this is where Hunter Biden got his training) and was listed on the "solar farm" CCP company as an officer. American Patriots showed up and surrounded the ranch with all their own firearms & kit and dared the BLM to step foot inside the perimeter. (this was just after the Klamath WA River wars, so they were really riled up). It was a stand off for a couple weeks, then old Harry folded and then had the "stairs" incident.

https://youtu.be/dxhT64P34q8?si=KG3dKNLnFHEEQDQf

Roger Beal's avatar

Attorney Jeff presents an encouraging perspective, one that relies on a Constitutionally-designed branch of government and a Constitutionally-outlined method of clarification by statute.

'Tis a shame that today's Congress has proven itself incapable of legislating anything that has become intensely partisan.

LMWC's avatar

And what isn’t partisan in today’s Congress?

Jeff Johnson's avatar

"Let Congress do its job." *CRICKETS*

David Clark's avatar

β€œThis time, legislators can’t drag their feet claiming that Trump is asking them to do something unconstitutional…” Correct. But that won’t stop them from dragging their feet for some other excuse.

J Kaz's avatar

Let Congress do its job??? I think you meant " Maybe Congress will start doing its job!"

Matt L.'s avatar

The Slaughter decision, that Jeff covered yesterday, could force Congress to do their job.

A POTUS can now hire/fire the 5-member leadership within every Federal Agency (new hires, Senate-approved). This will make these agencies more partisan in their regulation application (or lack thereof), moving forward.

If a too partisan Federal Agency acts in way Congress doesn’t like, Congress can legislate to limit that Agencies authority, or even dissolve that Agency.

As a proponent of limited government, I accept this tradeoff, and return to Congress legislating as our Constitution defines.

Mary Sholl's avatar

I had the same thought regarding the battle is not over. This ruling is a mess. Completely crazy. This is like Dred Scott but not in the way the libs and Roberts and Barrett claim. It’s more like Roe v. Wade in that it created chaos and insanity for decades and produced the absolutely insane incels and narcissistic women who celebrate killing their babies on one side and normal people on the other. I agree with Jeff. It’ll not stand but it’ll take 50 years to undo what was wrought yesterday. And during that time we will have DOJs who will enforce anti- birth tourism and DOJs (Dems) who won’t. So, job 1 win the midterms. This should be issue #1 right after the safe act. And it should be a litmus test just like Roe was until it’s overturned for every Republican candidate. Demographics are everything. By the way, Jesse Watters cracked a joke last night but it’s true - these birthright babies are eligible for the Trump accounts. How nice. We need to get busier trying to keep our Republic.

Juju's avatar

Yeah, on the Five. He also came with the heat during his hour too. I love how he isn’t afraid to call out the crazy

LMWC's avatar

The problem I have had with the overturning of Roe v Wade in 2022 was I always suspected this was pushed by the Dems to pressure the SCOTUS. When was an opinion written by a majority justice ever β€œleaked” before or since. And the leaker was never found out or at least revealed. Several blue state governors immediately used this to drum up hysteria for the midterms. And several states got referendums on ballots not only codifying abortion but taking them to extremes such as up until birth and beyond. Transgender mutilation was often included in these referendums. Just too perfect for 2022 midterm gaslighting for me to believe it was not timed specifically for that time.