Yep. I live in Utah. The city council is split (conserv/lib). People in Utah say they are conservative to get elected and then you find they are doing things like trying to get a drag show permitted on the down low. We have one member on the council that is a true constitutional conservative. She is young, bright and principled. AND she answers questions her constituents pose. Shocking.
We passed through Utah recently. Spent a night in Provo and went to a popular hamburger place near BYU and I couldn't help but notice how wholesome and happy college students and high school kids alike who crammed the place looked. I felt like I was looking at something out of the '90s. You just wouldn't see normal looking kids like that in a lot of places on the West Coast.It was fascinating
YES! Everyone who votes in these 'non-partisan' elections needs to scrutinize their candidates very closely. The left has mastered the 'run as a moderate' stance and then once elected, make a sharp left turn. Lots of handwringing in our local media about how non-partisan elections have become too partisan. I say, bring it. Make candidates show their colors in advance. Of course they can still lie. We don't have party registration in MO, but we have some legislators trying to pass registration and closed primaries so D's can't vote for weak Rs in the primaries and run as R's as easily. But a lot of my friends are against it as they think registering as an R means their ballot won't get counted.
UT has closed primaries. It seems to work. There are a lot of D's who would vote in the primaries as an R trying to get the liberal candidate in. But here we have Mitt Romney. I am trying to keep it clean so I will let the name just lie there and stink up the CnC comment section.
I hope MO retains a conservative nature. You have a good Atty Gen tho. That will keep a lot of wolves from breaching the fence.
Well. It is complicated here in Utah. Yes, Mormons (who run the joint) are conservative, but are globalists and minders (generally speaking. Very generally). Mitt Romney is a rich Mormon who most conservatives hate. Do the Mormon leaders? I dunno. We also have the issue of MANY new people coming to our state from CA and CO (mostly, as far as I can tell) who fled their state for a variety of reasons, but instead of embracing conservatism (because the proof is in the puddin), they write love letters to Romney and vow to register as R's and vote for the down lo lib running as a R. At least that is the state of affairs in my area of Utah. Salt Lake City is Liberalville. Also known as a hell hole.
We were just last week going through Utah on a national parks trip, which was super enjoyable. Stopped one night in Provo on the way home, because I always wanted to see that City and BYU, etc. Enjoyed it. We ate at a popular burger joint near BYU and I was amazed at how sane and happy looking the teens and college age people looked who had crammed into the place.
Your description of Mormons also explains why our financial advisor, who happens to be mormon, didn't react negatively when I mentioned the w e f. I thought that was strange. Now I guess it makes sense. 😒
I really like living in my area of Utah. People are nice, it is clean and well planned out with lots of parks (national, state, local) and plenty of things to do if you are an outdoors person and enjoy athletic pursuits. Tons of things for families. It is very family oriented. A non Mormon teen might find it difficult I suspect. They get serious about dating (since marriage minded) and if you are not a Mormon, you are not an option. Generally speaking ; ). Masking did not last long here in the general public, but most everyone jabbed. Because... the church is globalist and they decreed jab. Not all of them. I know some awesome rogues. If you are at all considering Utah as a place to live, try a trip thru S. Utah. We could use some more conservative minded ppl.
That's where we were--southeast Utah (Moab, etc) for the National Parks all clustered down there (Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, etc). We have always enjoyed our travels thru Utah, though we were amazed being there the last week of March how incredibly changeable the weather was! Got caught in a whiteout blizzard in Canyonlands that was over in a couple hours and we were hiking there with all the views, etc. soon after! Oops, just noticed that b/c I'm using a family member's computer that the handle/name is not mine, but this is Monterey on someone else's computer/account. :-)
I love Moab. We bike and side by side up there a lot. They have had nuts weather there this year. All of Utah has. And the wind! A couple times this season I got the bajeez scared out of me with the wind and rain and me being in the very wrong place. You should check out some flash flood videos from summer of 22 canyonlands and Moab. Whew.
Yes, Schmitt was a rock star. Was opposed to Andrew Bailey when he was nominated as he had very little background, never been elected and had criticized some of Schmitt's moves, but he has proven to be a fighter after all.
Can I ask what part of the country you’re in? No need to name a specific city/town or state if you’d rather not.
Yep. I live in Utah. The city council is split (conserv/lib). People in Utah say they are conservative to get elected and then you find they are doing things like trying to get a drag show permitted on the down low. We have one member on the council that is a true constitutional conservative. She is young, bright and principled. AND she answers questions her constituents pose. Shocking.
We passed through Utah recently. Spent a night in Provo and went to a popular hamburger place near BYU and I couldn't help but notice how wholesome and happy college students and high school kids alike who crammed the place looked. I felt like I was looking at something out of the '90s. You just wouldn't see normal looking kids like that in a lot of places on the West Coast.It was fascinating
YES! Everyone who votes in these 'non-partisan' elections needs to scrutinize their candidates very closely. The left has mastered the 'run as a moderate' stance and then once elected, make a sharp left turn. Lots of handwringing in our local media about how non-partisan elections have become too partisan. I say, bring it. Make candidates show their colors in advance. Of course they can still lie. We don't have party registration in MO, but we have some legislators trying to pass registration and closed primaries so D's can't vote for weak Rs in the primaries and run as R's as easily. But a lot of my friends are against it as they think registering as an R means their ballot won't get counted.
UT has closed primaries. It seems to work. There are a lot of D's who would vote in the primaries as an R trying to get the liberal candidate in. But here we have Mitt Romney. I am trying to keep it clean so I will let the name just lie there and stink up the CnC comment section.
I hope MO retains a conservative nature. You have a good Atty Gen tho. That will keep a lot of wolves from breaching the fence.
Is Mitt in his last, and only, term? I can't imagine Utah conservative sending him back to the Senate. What's the talk on the ground there about him?
Well. It is complicated here in Utah. Yes, Mormons (who run the joint) are conservative, but are globalists and minders (generally speaking. Very generally). Mitt Romney is a rich Mormon who most conservatives hate. Do the Mormon leaders? I dunno. We also have the issue of MANY new people coming to our state from CA and CO (mostly, as far as I can tell) who fled their state for a variety of reasons, but instead of embracing conservatism (because the proof is in the puddin), they write love letters to Romney and vow to register as R's and vote for the down lo lib running as a R. At least that is the state of affairs in my area of Utah. Salt Lake City is Liberalville. Also known as a hell hole.
Well that's unfortunate.
We were just last week going through Utah on a national parks trip, which was super enjoyable. Stopped one night in Provo on the way home, because I always wanted to see that City and BYU, etc. Enjoyed it. We ate at a popular burger joint near BYU and I was amazed at how sane and happy looking the teens and college age people looked who had crammed into the place.
Your description of Mormons also explains why our financial advisor, who happens to be mormon, didn't react negatively when I mentioned the w e f. I thought that was strange. Now I guess it makes sense. 😒
I really like living in my area of Utah. People are nice, it is clean and well planned out with lots of parks (national, state, local) and plenty of things to do if you are an outdoors person and enjoy athletic pursuits. Tons of things for families. It is very family oriented. A non Mormon teen might find it difficult I suspect. They get serious about dating (since marriage minded) and if you are not a Mormon, you are not an option. Generally speaking ; ). Masking did not last long here in the general public, but most everyone jabbed. Because... the church is globalist and they decreed jab. Not all of them. I know some awesome rogues. If you are at all considering Utah as a place to live, try a trip thru S. Utah. We could use some more conservative minded ppl.
That's where we were--southeast Utah (Moab, etc) for the National Parks all clustered down there (Arches, Canyonlands, Capitol Reef, etc). We have always enjoyed our travels thru Utah, though we were amazed being there the last week of March how incredibly changeable the weather was! Got caught in a whiteout blizzard in Canyonlands that was over in a couple hours and we were hiking there with all the views, etc. soon after! Oops, just noticed that b/c I'm using a family member's computer that the handle/name is not mine, but this is Monterey on someone else's computer/account. :-)
I love Moab. We bike and side by side up there a lot. They have had nuts weather there this year. All of Utah has. And the wind! A couple times this season I got the bajeez scared out of me with the wind and rain and me being in the very wrong place. You should check out some flash flood videos from summer of 22 canyonlands and Moab. Whew.
Yes, Schmitt was a rock star. Was opposed to Andrew Bailey when he was nominated as he had very little background, never been elected and had criticized some of Schmitt's moves, but he has proven to be a fighter after all.
Thank you!