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Jeff Childers's avatar

Since many have asked, we use https://www.celebrateprimarycare.com in Gainesville — a terrific team.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Thanks for sharing. (I live in Wisconsin, and see a functional medicine MD who doesn’t accept insurance.). Your provider has a good model, which hopefully will keep catching on more and more across the USA. I can’t help saying that they should lose the ‘mask’ photos on their home page.

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

Exactly!!! That’s one of the questions to ask Doctors you are interviewing to hire as your physician. How did you treat anybody “suspected” of having a “COVID” viruses. How much do you trust PCR tests & why. Are you familiar with cycle thresholds, if not, why? Do you suggest sunscreen creams, etc., etc..

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Sweet Mama's avatar

We knew scientifically over 40 years ago that those masks have no effect on preventing the spread of any virus, or for that matter even most bacteria, which are 20 times larger. What an embarrassingly stupid era in our medical facilities. I would never see a doc that required them, and I've never allowed anyone in or around my house with them. Most people with half a brain were relieved to hear that from me during that time, as repair folks and others felt compelled to do it but didn't like it or believe in it either. It was kind of an Emperor's New Clothes test - we just needed more people to speak the truth and say NO..

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Janet's avatar

I see one in illinois. I feel safe there. She never vaxxed.

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MOMinator's avatar

Here’s a site (provided by a doc in KY that I connected with on substack) to find a direct primary care practitioner in your state:

dpcfrontier.com

I only found one in central Illinois, but am hopeful!

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AJF's avatar

THANK YOU MOMinator for sharing! Found a doc right in my hometown!🤗

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MOMinator's avatar

Yay!

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rolandttg's avatar

That's what we did this year. Our functional holistic doctor is a gem, but he does not do hands on if you need it, so we got on a waiting list for a local direct primary care practice that I have received wonderful feedback about. We are in and set up now.

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Kenpowoman's avatar

That information is from 2021 on this website, so not current. However, I found this article that is quite helpful.

https://dpcnews.com/uncategorized/direct-primary-care-landscape/

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Lisa Murtha's avatar

Thank you for this! So helpful.

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

Doesn’t seem to work on my cell. I’ll email myself the link to check on my laptop later. Thank you!

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SKnow's avatar

Thank you so much for the link!

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JF's avatar

That’s very interesting, I had never heard of DPC before. I have ChristianHealthcare so it’s kind of like catastrophic care, as you pay for all your Dr appointments, but like as if you’re a cash patient, so it’s cheaper. Then if you had a medical “incident” it would be $1000. Ea, which isn’t terrible, as it’s only about $265 per mo. If you have the time, could you explain this type further?

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JF's avatar

https://chministries.org/ this is what I use.

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Janet's avatar

Thank you! I found 3 within 30 miles. Will keep these in mind. I see a functional medicine doctor but she is quite expensive. I would like to have a GP as alternative.

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P Flournoy's avatar

I found one close to me, but when I click on the green dot it doesn’t give me any information???

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FedUpInOR's avatar

What do you do in the event you need hospitalization?

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Copernicus's avatar

Still can get hospitalization. Carry major medical insurance to cover that sort of thing, or procedures or specialists.

Most primary care docs no longer see their patients in hospital anyway, unfortunately. The sad rise of hospitalist physicians. Yet more fragmentation of true medical care.

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AL's avatar

But that is going back to the first problem. You can't get "catastrophic" health coverage. I couldn't find anything available at a reasonable cost so it feels like I would still be paying high premiums AND concierge prices for a doctor that I barely see.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Exactly as AL said. Obamacare changed that all out. Either you have insurance or you don’t. Used to be you could get catastrophic insurance really cheap, no longer

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AL's avatar

Funny how they made sure that happened.

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Gaye's avatar

Only the Dems could name astronomically higher priced healthcare “Affordable Care” and get away with it; it’s Opposite Day with them EVERY day.

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AL's avatar

I think we’re long past the “Dem/Rep” game. They’re all bought and paid for. The rest is an illusion promoted to make you think that’s where the fight is. It’s not.

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JF's avatar

https://chministries.org/ check this out

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PJ's avatar

What happens if one of you needs something like an orthopedic surgery, or even a stent? Both can run over $100,000

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Copernicus's avatar

Still have to carry health insurance. Or use a cost-sharing program like Medishare.

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rolandttg's avatar

I don't know about other insurance, but using direct primary care does not preclude you from going to another doctor ie. an orthopedic doctor and using medicare with them.

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Janet's avatar

Tell me about it. A hemi hip replacement after a fall was an eye watering cost. Insurance and Medicare paid almost all, so I would have to be covered.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Hold up..PRIVATE health insurance? It's supposed to be unaffordable and out of reach of everyone, thus why we need obamacare.

SARCASM...

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NeoBob's avatar

We are giving https://www.joincrowdhealth.com/ a try. Low premiums, we cover basics. Max is capped so we self-insure the horriblest accidents. But it allows us 75% savings (invest the difference) for that ugly possibility. See who we want. Pay cash. Haven’t had a claim yet though.

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Paige Green's avatar

Not all direct primary care is the same. I thought my mom’s was doing things for her best interest, but I got a little jaded after taking her to many appointments.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

But...how does this work outside of your locality?

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Flavia's avatar

Omg I just asked the same question lol. Thanks!!!

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Dr Linda's avatar

“The jury can find Trump “guilty” in a general sense without specifically defining the crime.”

That’s insane! Guilty of something but who knows what it is.

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Blair's avatar

I think the quote below aptly describes the Trump trial....

"Give me the man and I will give you the case against him."

- Quote attributed to the Stalinist-era Soviet jurist Andrey Vyshinsky, or the Soviet secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree, that is exactly what is happening here 😕

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carily myers's avatar

^^^

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JudyC's avatar

“- Quote attributed to the Stalinist-era Soviet jurist Andrey Vyshinsky, or the Soviet secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria.”

Or any Soros D.A.!

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Just Comment's avatar

I had been a doctoral student and personally witnessed DEI students copied directly from borrowed books from the Library.

Wonder how Soros's D.A. passed their Bar Exam ?

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Peter GL's avatar

And what makes you think the demon craps that run NYC are any different?

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Vonu's avatar

It depends on whether they are partying together or separately.

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EightDaysaWeek's avatar

The democrat panic & desperation is becoming obvious. New Yorkers and fed up with the democrat bullsh*t and are going to turn the state RED. And if they believe a Trump guilty verdict will change our votes, GFY!!

I enjoy wearing this in front of dems: https://t.co/jhM0aRfLef

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

New york will never go red..mark my words.

It's simply beyond the state. Trump was a New Yorker, even.

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Astragale's avatar

The absolute liberal BS must be overwhelming a whole bunch of Dem voters by now.

Surely!

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chuck kutchera's avatar

Remember it’s not "It’s not who votes that counts," Stalin supposedly said. "It’s who counts the vote.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Remember he was found guilty of "raping" that woman that he had never met! All things are possible today, unfortunately.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@Alison Smith and then she tweeted once that “The Apprentice” was one of her favorite shows! Who watches a show starring their “rapist”?! What a very odd woman she is.

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JudyC's avatar

She’s not “odd”, she’s insane!

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AngelaK's avatar

💯💯💯 Recently said that she finds rape sexy.

The woman is sick.

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william howard's avatar

and couldn't even remember which year the rape supposedly occurred - but the jury didn't find him guilty of rape but of defamation when he protested the absurdity of the claim

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Susan Seas's avatar

Right! How Dare Trump be allowed a defense! Because his secretaries would know Exactly where he was at any given time!

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CeeMcG's avatar

Her Twitter/X post history is beyond insane.

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L  Young's avatar

Is she in jail?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

She imagined being raped by him, and the thought became the deed.

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Jack Bergeron's avatar

As to health insurance and health care, it’s another example of usurpation of powers by the federal government. Eliminate the unconstitutional Department of Health and Human Services, all its subagencies, Medicare and Medicaid and give the power back to the states and the people where it rightly belongs. Health care costs would plummet like a Russian dissident falling out of a hotel window.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Note they always claim rape by some wealthy guy…never a poor or middle-class schmo.

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Donna's avatar

I want to try that! I’d do it for less than 80 million even!

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Vonu's avatar

Acquiescence becomes acceptance.

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AngelaK's avatar

💯

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AngelaK's avatar

I cannot even read most of Jeff's wonderful blog today, because I feel my blood pressure going up about this whole Trump thing, and especially about the mere mention of despicable FJB, otherwise known as our current President.

My emotions are approaching sinful levels, so....

This interesting article came to my attention yesterday, however:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2024/05/bbc-calls-latest-trump-trial-weakest-criminal-case/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=bbc-calls-latest-trump-trial-weakest-criminal-case

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Tony schiano's avatar

This is and will continue to backfire. I predict a Trump electoral landslide, if we can keep,the balloting legal.

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JudyC's avatar

They’re running out of options to keep him out…what’s left? “Postponing” the election due to some catastrophic event or JFK-ing him? He’d better pick a VP that they’re just as afraid of as they are of him. It’s his only protection against option 2!

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Astragale's avatar

That would be Steve Bannon!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"if we can keep,the balloting legal."

That's like saying "I'm jumping off this skyscraper, and I predict a soft landing - IF we can suspend the law of gravity."

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Vonu's avatar

It wasn't the balloting where the problem was, but in the duplicative counting of the ballots.

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Peter GL's avatar

No fingers on the scale

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william howard's avatar

that Buyden would give an address shows what a disgusting individual he is

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I was talking to my grandson and referred to the guy living in the Senior Living Center in D.C. He laughed his head off!

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JudyC's avatar

Yay! There’s hope for the younger generation after all (just kidding, I know a ton of younger folk who have completely woken up!)

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I know it's sinful, but I struggle with hating Biden. Struggle implies I am trying not to hate. I need to struggle harder.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I'm in that boat with you. I find myself praying the imprecatory Psalms (wishing God to punish him) rather than praying for him to repent. Only God can change him.

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LaNell Tew's avatar

Fret not over evil does for they shall be mown down like grass... Psalm 37

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

King David prayed God would smite his enemies plenty

of

times.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I just read in Hosea today how God HATED a certain people. He gets it. It’s in either Hosea 10 or 11, KJV.

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Quiltlady's avatar

I feel sorry for him. He is a senior citizen who is being used and abused by his "handlers" He obviously has Dementia and He should be in a rest home being cared for by trained caregivers.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, but he has never been a good man, even in younger days.

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CMCM's avatar

His past 50 years have been despicable. I don't care if he has dementia now, he has an evil past. Besides all this, others are obviously running the show behind him and we should worry about that.

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Janet's avatar

He’s never held an honest job as far as I can tell. Ever.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I think his wife is awful to let him be abused this way, but he's still evil in my eyes. I hate what he has done to destroy this country and to destroy so many lives. On some level, I think he's willing to be used because he likes the power and prestige of being the so-called leader of the free world. He doesn't seem to care for people at all.

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rolandttg's avatar

I still say this is all White Hat theater to wake up the normies who are reachable and also to enter into official court records information the NSA has but cannot use unless it becomes public record. This is a psyop war like no other, many levels deep and wide. Nothing is as it seems, so don't despair. As Clif High says, the goal is to survive '25.

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Susan Seas's avatar

And look how far we have come! Getting close now!

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Michael Framson's avatar

"My emotions are approaching sinful levels...." There's a pill for that.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, it is a pill called not having Joe Biden as President! 😉

And for me as a Christian, the ancient Jesus Prayer..

'Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God. have mercy on me a sinner'. 🙏

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Susan Seas's avatar

We’re allowed to have righteous anger and at this point …

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Sydney's avatar

There is a vaccine for that…

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Monterey's avatar

I know what you mean. I have to frequently keep myself from hating Joe Biden because of all the despicable things he has done and is doing currently. Especially with this show trial junk.

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Astragale's avatar

Biden isn’t doing anything.

The power is elsewhere. He’s just a symbol - a very feeble one.

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AngelaK's avatar

Agree but he is also not a good person. "No one messes with a Biden", says it all. He isn't a mafia don, but those words which he said not very long ago, sound like he thinks he is.

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CMCM's avatar

He's a disgusting human being and always has been. He has 50 years of non-achievement behind him, and all he has ever done is be a racist and block civil rights legislation. He has always been underestimated and has flown under the radar of most people. For the 2020 election, he was just a manipulable, useful idiot to those really running things. His increasing dementia was an advantage to them.

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Lana's avatar

Hating a puppet makes no sense…. It’s ok to hate the evil agenda of the Puppeteer!

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Astragale's avatar

It must be taking an awful toll on him.

Even if he’s acquitted, the Dems have kept him tied to the court, hassled him terribly, put pressure on his health through the stress.

They play VERY dirty.

I hope (real) voters punish them badly for this staging this SHOW TRIAL.

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Mrs. Itoldya!'s avatar

Exactly… My prayers are keenly focused on protecting both Trump & RFK, Jr. For all people speaking the truths & really caring about what is happening to others…

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Dr Linda's avatar

I had similar feelings

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K2's avatar

Kafkaesque indeed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes it truly is an appropriate adjective here 😕

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K2's avatar

Like! The mass insanity of life in Clownworld might as well be call “Pride and Pretending.” The thickening fog of stuff people have to pretend not to know along mixed withe the proudful denial of having fallen for so many propaganda con(s) is life in the asylum. God help us.

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Jay & Delores's avatar

It took one crazy judge to convict him of that. Are there 12 crazy jurors that will do the same? Anything is possible in NYC. If that happens, my bet would be that it was set up from the start. Just another day in this crazy world we live in.

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Credenda's avatar

I wonder if the jurors know that they will be a target if they don’t vote to convict him. It would be a legitimate fear.

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CMCM's avatar

Exactly! I think that corrupt judge is counting on that.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Pawns typically do not know they’re being used as pawns- until afterwards

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Astragale's avatar

Like the one who accused Kavanaugh - with a load of baloney - proven lies - and said she’d been so-o traumatized by an “assault” decades ago, in a house she couldn’t identify, didn’t remember who was there or how she got home... Said she would fight on - blah blah - the minute she picked up her million $$$ no one heard from her again.

What a surprise.

The justice system should nail these liars to discourage what has become a routine dirty trick.

As a woman, I DETEST these liars. They just go after CASH & everyone knows it.

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WP William's avatar

he wanted to rape her, she felt assaulted afterward and violated by his nearness

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RunningLogic's avatar

She’s really a piece of work 😕

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AngelaK's avatar

Anyone who has been to Bergdorf Goodman knows that this entire story had to be made up.

Where are the witnesses?

Men don't generally go into women's fitting rooms without being noticed, and on rare occasion, if they do, they are usually a boyfriend or husband, and will ask permission of the sales person.

I honestly don't know how Trump and his family are keeping their peace and their cool infront of all this demonic, sovietesque garbage these manipulated, threatened, coerced, or paid players are throwing at him.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

@AngelaK I’ve said that from the beginning! You want me to believe a man as famous as Trump was, even back then, walks into the highest of high end stores in Manhattan, and no clerk was around to wait on him? Much less in the lingerie department! The whole thing was cooked up by left wing lunatics and financed by that sicko billionaire. If there is any justice in this world, which is more questionable every day, she shouldn’t see a red cent of that ridiculous “award.”

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Astragale's avatar

We’re seeing a lot of evil people being rewarded for a lot of wrongdoing.

We have to start to turn the tables.

The wickedness must stop.

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WP William's avatar

yeah over the top "She Too!" claim from a grifter and whackjob enabled by a Marxist Legal System

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right?? 😕

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Astragale's avatar

Well said.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Not raping, battery, is what he was ''convicted'' of, right? I'm pretty sure that he was cleared of ''rape''...

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

No, he was found “guilty” of defaming the accuser when he said it was ridiculous and denied it.

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CMCM's avatar

Well, Biden has his hand up under Tara Reide's skirt and his fingers were where they should not be so I would call that a definite sexual assault, but when Tara spoke up she was targeted for ruin by Biden's people and she ended up having to flee to Russia for safety.

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rolandttg's avatar

Like Jimmy Carter, I'm sure the Donald mentally raped her, so that should count

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Vonu's avatar

What, you never saw Minority Report?

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Robin Greer's avatar

Remember that it's been a year since the FBI went after Ken Paxton. If you missed his interview with Tucker Carlson, watch it. He fought back and won, but it was an extremely hard road. Those who hate our constitution have always gone after those who love it. I'm reminded of Clarance Thomas who is an originalist and the lies that they perpetrated against him to try to stop his appointment to the Supreme Court. Make no mistake. Those who hate this country will lie, cheat, steal to destroy this country. They have no morals and no boundaries and they are a god unto themselves.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Right. And now we have a SCJ who can't define a woman.

The USA is devolving.....at first slowly.....now suddenly.

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Robin Greer's avatar

When we look hard at the decline, it's been going on for longer than we thought, but the decline is definitely picking up speed. People just didn't want to notice and kept pushing down the obvious that was happening right under our noses. My godmother repeatedly told me that her father left the Democrats during the Goldwater years. He was an attorney and high up in Democrat circles in Kentucky at that time. He told her that there had been drastic change in the Democrat party and he could no longer be a part of it. Apparently, he was never more specific than that. She would also tell me that schools changed with Dewey. She had an education degree and had graduated in the early 50's. It's always interesting to get perspective from a previous generation.

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rolandttg's avatar

Correct. For example, the town council of Berkeley CA have been raving woke lunatics since at least 1989, 35 years ago.. This insanity did not happen in a few years, or even a few decades, so why do people think we can restore the Republic and sanity in a few years?

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Robin Greer's avatar

I think it's actually been even longer at Berkeley. H. A. Ironside, the evangelist of the early 1900's had a son who left Christianity for probably 20 years after attending Berkeley. And yes, the restoration process won't happen overnight, but hopefully people will be awakened to the corruption that has existed in our country for way too long.

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rolandttg's avatar

I' really believe that. The only reason I used 1989 is I can document that from second hand information from the lawyer who represented the Berkeley Town Council. She married a close friend from college, and told me multiple "are you friggin ' kidding me ??" stories .

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Astragale's avatar

Austin, not only that but she thinks the 1A is a problem because it gets in government’s way.....

How is she not removed from the SC for being an IDIOT?

Surely IDIOCY disqualifies a SCJ....

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Seems like in today's world they must include "Idiot" on their resume to move to the next level. If they include "I am an idiot," they move up 2 levels.

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Peter Schott's avatar

A lot of us in Texas are _really_ rooting against Phelan. He's shown us who he is and it's way past time for him to go.

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P Flournoy's avatar

Unfortunately and unbelievably Phelan beat Covey by a slim margin. What an s wrong with the evangelicals that they sit out these primary elections!

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carily myers's avatar

Amen

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

And JRB was one of the ones going after Clarence Thomas in those hearings.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

I voted for Ken Paxton and he's still in office today.

Trump's case is the same..simply a railroading to keep him off the 2024 ticket.

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Robin Greer's avatar

It's hard to believe how corrupt people on the left are. Glad you voted for Paxton!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Ray charles could see how politically motivated the prosecution was.

It's so funny that even while under indictment he still was re elected. The voters saw how it was motivated by politics and the good guys won and Paxton was cleared in the end.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I watched the Anita Hill hearings in their entirety. I do not believe that she made that stuff up.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

Oh. Interesting. I watched them as extensively as I could, but not completely. Tell me what makes you think Anita Hill was telling the truth?

Since that trial, Hill (a lawyer) has specialized the aggrievement culture that seems to get packaged with those on the left. I think that lawyers make the best liars.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I watched it completely and I’m 100% sure she was lying and I knew that at the time. Nothing since then has changed my mind.

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CMCM's avatar

Same here.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I've seen this process used against many conservatives but never Democrats. I wonder why? I'm sorry but I don't believe her.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I watched the entire hearings as well and am completely convinced she was lying. They’ve continued to use that tactic ever since they smeared Justice Thomas.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Silly Doc! Trump is guilty of thought crimes. Any post-modernist knows that!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yikes, we had all better run for cover

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Marie's avatar

Thought crimes…..coming to a Canada near you!

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shayne's avatar

True. But I've observed that Democrats don't have much in the way of sanity.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Loss of sanity or loss of morality?

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shayne's avatar

Both

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AngelaK's avatar

One generally brings on the other. Where there is no God, there is no conscience, and with no conscience, there is no integrity (the ability to differentiate between right and wrong).

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Robin Greer's avatar

Psalm 14:1 The wicked fool says in his heart, “There is no God.” They act corruptly, they commit abominable deeds; There is no one who does good.

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AngelaK's avatar

So many democrats.

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Tom's avatar

Romans 1. They have been given over to a depraved mind.

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Susan's avatar

Yes!

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Dr Linda's avatar

I certainly will give you that

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Peter GL's avatar

Who cares? In their feeble koolaid brains HE IS GUILTY and that is all that matters

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

And after all the sane people are gone, they'll go after the low-hanging fruit like the jurors who will scream, "But wait, I convicted Trump, just like you wanted!! This isn't fair!!!"

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randall stoehr's avatar

Kinda puts the cherry on top of the legal phrase "Justice is Blind".

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Dr Linda's avatar

Your comment jump started my brain to Chekhov’s play, “The Cherry Orchard”. Not a happy play.

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randall stoehr's avatar

I can send an invoice for mental health services rendered and I can send with that a prescription for an IceCream cone at Baskin Robbins in most malls.

They used to do this long ago when Rexall Drug stores all had soda fountain style seating as you waited for the pharmacist to fill it. Hahaha......I remember clearly the reward as ok.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I had no idea that you were so witty. Thank you for the giggles.

I do remember Rexall Drugs

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randall stoehr's avatar

I am working on my stand up comedy routine about 9 years away.

When a guy gets to be 80 he needs a part time job to keep his hamster active on the wheel.

When you get to be 80 you can poke fun at any subject or topic without actually offending.

Look at the goofy shit the President says, he keeps his job and gets away with murder.

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Gaye's avatar

Coke floats and milkshakes. Good times!

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randall stoehr's avatar

Add to that real cherry cokes (Fountain style) and real malted milk shakes.

Yeah both should make a comeback. What is old is new again. Hahaha

Doubtful those actual ingredients exist anymore.....Some plastic substitute took their places.

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Gaye's avatar

Oooh yes! Malts and cherry cokes. How could I forget?!

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CMCM's avatar

And fountain cokes...those were so delicious!

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

The Judge knows what he is doing. He was totally unknown prior to this trial, he is now well known and would be considered a great Democrat. Many of his instructions will be overturned but not until the trial is over... by that time the Judge is already retired. Biden can pardon the Judge prior to leaving office.

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Fla Mom's avatar

And I'm sure his daughter, making her millions from Dem activism, will support him well in retirement. Who knows what may have been promised to him for getting the politically-correct result?

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Credenda's avatar

Yeah, they actually DO see themselves as heroes. Saving Democracy, and all. They really believe they are righteous and courageous. Sort of like “ you have to kill a country to save a country”. And they are trying to kill our country.

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CMCM's avatar

They have redefined the word "democracy" just like they have redefined so many other terms. To them now, democracy simply means "their way of thinking and their complete control." Exhibit A is the situation in California. Dems have a super majority and there are so few Republicans or others that there can be absolutely no opposition or even discussion of anything the Dems choose to do. At this point I don't see how that can ever change. Voters are so unbelievably low information that there is a complete disconnect between bad conditions they observe and the people they elect over and over. Very depressing at this point.

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Credenda's avatar

You are so right!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Heavy sigh. I realize all of this

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WP William's avatar

Racism, Xenophobia, anti-Woman Rights, anti-trans, pro-Zionism, pro-Russia, pro-Capitalism, pro-redneck America, so many crimes against the (Deep) State

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Well it's getting to a point where they won't mistake 'Yankee Doodle' for a nursery rhyme

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Dr Linda's avatar

Let’s hope!

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JJ Chester's avatar

Guilty of being a boorish blowhard...Lock him up!

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Dr Linda's avatar

The prisons will be packed

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

If Trump committed a crime then you also need to charge Biden for the same. He's done nearly the exact same thing.

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carily myers's avatar

I'm just a Paralegal but this entire "trial" has left me aghast! NOTHING has been normal court procedure. It's mind blowing.

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JW's avatar

Even when pulled over by a police officer you are told what it was that caused the stop!

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FourWinds's avatar

I've said it before and will say it again... unless I break a bone that is sticking out of me and I can't fix it myself, I won't set foot in a hospital, doctor's office, ER, urgent care or anywhere else run by the medical cabal. No one in any of those places wants to heal anyone - they just want to manage symptoms - with a notable exception of ERs trying to piece people back together after accidents. Then again, there was this guy in Arizona a few years back who was not seriously injured in a crash, yet woke up on a vent in a hospital. The story seems to have disappeared from the internet. Go figure.

Our healthcare system is a business, and in order for a business to survive, they have to make money. Curing people or keeping them well in the first place makes no one money.

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Alison Smith's avatar

My daughter's pediatrician was strong-arming us to come in for well checks (i.e. vaccinations). Every time they called, the nurse kept getting nastier and nastier.

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AngelaK's avatar

Doctors offices are being bought up as investments, so they run it like a despicable profit and loss corporation.

The KEY is to find an older doctor with his or her own practice (single doctor) who has all his or her loans paid off. They are usually the honest ones.

My daughter finally found a pediatrician like that by the grace of God (and an anti vaxx lawyer friend to get her admitted as a new patient, because he is very popular).

He doesn't push any vaccines; asks, and then moves on.

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Oma's avatar

As far as I can tell through researching my area for an “independent” physician after the retirement of our family physician of 42 years, there are none. Group practices are in existence because of insurance costs for the doctors (my thoughts) then the group gets swallowed up by the highest bidder...over and over again. Our area is being consumed by Advent. Even the Daytona 500😏. At our age- 82 and 79.5 lol- we have little choices in the medical area, even though we both have paid through the nose in our 47+ years of work (taxes). But we play their game on the offense. “I have to have test? I only will consider blood test. And I’ll go to the lab I choose, of which I can pull up my own test results to keep track of my own health.” We go to a chiropractor and have a “regimental supplement program” and keep it known that we will under no circumstances -bone sticking out is the only one- will we go to an ER or hospital! None. Nada. “You can call Evac if you want, and they can come take my BP and listen to my heart, but I won’t leave the house! I’ll ask about their family, kids, vacations, what church they attend, when they called their mother last etc and then they’ll want to leave.” I have a life plan that was set before time began and an expiration date stamped on my butt. I’m not leaving one day sooner or later than that date. I just don’t know how or when but it’s been decided by my Creator.

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Fraulein Zen's avatar

Where do you live? If you're in Georgia, Oma, we should hang out sometime! You sound like my type of lady. ;) I need some role models, I'm 62 and climbing. Fight the good fight!

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Oma's avatar

If you are in Georgia, we are related😂😂. I was born and raised in Atlanta and my family move to Florida when I was in 7th grade and back and forth until I was 15 when I left home to live with an aunt.

All my family still live in Georgia, which is not the “real Georgia” now.

So, yes I’m a fighter. That’s how I survived until I left home to live with my aunt’s family.

My husband and I of 57 years and 332 days, but who’s counting, live in Florida in the same city he was born and raised in. A “strange occurrence” for Florida!

I’ve told every one I know that I’m the only person who has their 16x20 photo posted on every “specialist’s” office with a plaque under it inscribed “Most Unwanted Patient In Area!” 😇

Choose Strong!

(A great book)

Blessings and climb upward!

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Fraulein Zen's avatar

Thanks for the recommendation! Keep them coming. Just ordered from library. I don’t like feeling this scared - but I am trying to remember that it might be BETTER than what we have now. Fear of the unknown while clinging to the familiar is pretty standard - especially for me. ;) Jumped out of it once when I left the DA’s office to join the JAG Corp at thirty and live in Germany. That worked out well. Here’s hoping Tasmania is a similar situation. Oh, and I’m in Columbus, GA. Hotlanta would be an improvement! Let me rephrase - Hotlanta in the early 1980s would be an improvement.

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AngelaK's avatar

They are mostly groups but I really don't hate mine. She is there for what I need, including referrals to specialists. I am pleased and thankful so far with my medicare advantage plan. The specialists and hospitals are excellent here in South Florida. Could some things be better..yes..but it is what it is.

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Oma's avatar

True. But it’s still a fight to keep up with all the changes, new providers, accepters etc. and is life-hour consuming to keep the straight! We, too are thankful but wish we had the personal choice of so many things. We will always have the choice of NO and that is our peace.

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AngelaK's avatar

No is an option in Medicare too! I have, my husband has, and my mother had (much , in the end, to her detriment) said NO on many occasion. It is not an issue at all.

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Dena's avatar

Was looking for an integrative/naturopathic group& thought I found one. Went by the office before making an appointment & sure enough “ all are welcome” with a big colorful flag ( not a rainbow anymore). I take that to mean they will give hormone treatment to young people as they did have a pediatrician on staff & I live in a blue state. I moved on.

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Oma's avatar

Horrors!

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Leo's avatar

Might be better to simply inquire, first...

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MaryAnn's avatar

Same with dentistry. Stay away from the ‘Doc in a Box’ practices. They manipulate dental insurance codes for maximum billing dollars.

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SB's avatar

They are losing a lot of money because so many parents are saying no to more shots.

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Dena's avatar

And in many states kids at 13 are in control of their medical decisions. They’ll keep the parents in the waiting room as the kid meets with doc. Easier to push the Gardasil vax that way.

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's ridiculous. I wish we could re-educate the medical professionals in this country who are so indoctrinated. There is a book out now called, "The Lies I Taught in Medical School" in which the doctor/professor admits he finally realized the lies he had been propagating after he was diagnosed with HBP, high cholesterol, arthritis and another condition. His doctor put him on several medications and told him he would be on them the rest of his life. He didn't like that option so he decided to research and realized he needed to change his diet. He lost weight by stopping carbs and he was able to stop all his meds. I didn't agree with him about everything, but I'm glad that finally when his own health was a stake, he finally realized that medications for everything wasn't the way to go.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Good.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Same in California .. our long time Pediatrician office wanted us in for our well checks or else. Finally we left … still trying to figure out where to take my kiddos — and have been using our local urgent care docs in the meantime when needed (like our back to back to back ) strep throat dx last year

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Jean V's avatar

Why do kids need wellness checks? If they're healthy, they should be OK. Going to the doctor looking for something is only good for the doctor. I'm 64 and only remember going to the doctor a few times as a kid, and because I was sick.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think maybe to build a relationship with the doctor and also maybe to catch things before they get out of hand, which I think is fair. But too many doctors use it as an excuse to push vaxxes and other interventions. As my kids got older I stopped going as regularly because they didn’t really need it since they were generally healthy. When my kids’ pediatrician refused to give a mask exemption or even see my son to talk to him and examine him regarding the issue, I fired him even though we’d been going to him since my oldest was a preschooler and before that I had found him conservative as far as interventions went, as well as open minded. But he lost my trust after that. So we haven’t seen anyone in a few years.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Crazy what we found out about people that we thought we knew when the "plandemic" hit and the emergency powers took over.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Indeed 😞

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AngelaK's avatar

Older children generally don't need, so atleast at that point, you were fine!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I think when they are littler and communication isn’t as clear, and issues can start manifesting themselves, it can be more helpful. I’m not too bothered about it in general now except that if something should come up, I don’t have anyplace to take him right now 😕 My fired pediatrician used to smile and say “we don’t see you much, you’re doing a great job keeping them healthy!” I was so disappointed and felt so betrayed when he completely folded regarding the masks 😕😞

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Dena's avatar

And in many states kids at 13 are in control of their medical decisions. They’ll keep the parents in the waiting room as the kid meets with doc. Easier to push the Gardasil vax that way.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Wellness checks sound very similar to car ‘maintenance’ programs. Nothing is wrong, the car runs great, but the book says it needs all $ort& of $tuff…

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RunningLogic's avatar

True. But I still think the relationship part can be valuable. If something major comes up, at least you have a familiar and hopefully trusted person to guide you through it. But I agree that too many doctors seemingly use it as an opportunity to sell “unnecessary services”.

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Leo's avatar

Try a good Naturopathic physician.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I see a functional medicine NP but she only sees adults 😕

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Irunthis1's avatar

Same!! I'm only 55 but only remember going to the doctor when I broke my finger. My brother had a crossed eye so he went for that several times but my folks were not well off and we couldn't afford good groceries most weeks so there was no money to pay for doctors unless you were dying. We just didn't go. In fact when I finally went to college at 23 I had to get a "catch up" MMR because we didn't have a record of me receiving more than one MMR , the polio vax and the dreaded small pox vaccine (have the scar to prove it too). I vaguely remember getting the "swine flu" vax at our rural high school as well but never once took an antibiotic until I was much older. My first pharmacy job in the mid '80's was cash and carry unless you had medicaid, which was hand billed on paper forms. (And you had to have your paper medicaid card that was mailed out monthly--none of this "I don't have a card" crap they do now days--they always had them--personal responsibility does not exist anymore) Most customers were on five or fewer drugs--usually much fewer. Now it is common to have people on ten, 15 or 20+ different pharmaceuticals. Crazy "business" our healthcare has turned into.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I never went to a doctor. First time visit was required prior to joining the military!

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's amazing! Good for you!

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AngelaK's avatar

Growth and parental concerns for infants, toddlers and children. Things like irregular heartbeats or scoliosis to be detected early on..etc...Even in the early 60s when I was a kid, mom took me as a baby and young child.

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AB's avatar

Same here. Those are valid points. I’m hoping the medical landscape will change to accommodate the growing number of us ‘refuseniks’.

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Copernicus's avatar

Yea. These are the things.

Unfortunately, most folks don’t realize that they can get most of the best advice from their peers and mentor moms around them. Unfortunately, too many moms have been brainwashed into thinking that they are not capable of teaching their offspring colors, letters, numbers, and that they need a professional to tell them when something is wrong with their child and how to fix it.

There is a saying that worries moms do better research than the FBI. And that was made popular before the FBI stopped doing proper research.

Moms need to be re-empowered to trust their gut intuition, and they need to be given basic tools like simple homeopathic remedies and some herbs by which they can care for most things for themselves. And, if they stay away from the childhood vaccines, their kids will not be as sick from get go.

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rolandttg's avatar

Why does Anyone need wellness checks.? Stop it already. You'll know when you're sick. Stop feeding the beast

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Jean V's avatar

AMEN!

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AB's avatar

Urgent care all the way unfortunately. We are in the same boat in Florida since all the pediatricians I know get paid by the number of vaccines injected (and percentages of patients vaxxed) and all my kids have religious exemptions. Ah well. Luckily my kids are hardly ever sick and most things go away with a days’ rest. I would hate to miss anything though. So there is always that lingering feeling

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Alison Smith's avatar

That's why we stopped going- pushing the vaccines. HPV and Covid and others. We've been going to our local Minute Clinic for winter sinus infections and flu.

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Peace's avatar

Sarah Bee - look for a family physician for your children. The family physicians don't get paid the big kickbacks to vaccinate their patients (as opposed to pediatricians who receive substantial sums of money but only if a certain percentage of their practice is fully vaccinated, thus people getting kicked out cos they pull down their percentage.)

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Lorri Cahill's avatar

Anyone know if it’s mandatory to go to the Medicare visit? My parents go to their dr. once a year and also the wellness Medicare visit. Would they be dropped from Medicare if they said no to the visit?

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Fred's avatar

If they require prescription medications, MC “requires” face to face visit once a year. Not usually enforced but doc may insist. Beware of docs who demand visits every 3 months to refill Rx; that is not a MC requirement.

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SS's avatar

Wellness checks for kids are actually extremely important for the sake of creating a paper trail and showing the child is healthy and well taken care of. You can decline the vaccines they want to give. The reason for this is if the child ends up in the emergency room/hospital for whatever reason, they have documentation to back them up showing the child has and is cared for. You’d be surprised what can happen in a hospital in terms of CPS getting involved and children being taken away from the government. And you probably already know their antennas go up as soon as they know the children are unvaccinated.

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Runemasque's avatar

I worked in family court for a time. If someone is anticipating being in a dispute with the other parent por being accused of neglect or abuse, the professionals would count regular medical care in your favor and otherwise as possibly suspicious and detrimental. I don't agree that it equates, but, that is what I saw.

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SS's avatar

Exactly. This too. I agree that it doesn’t equate, but it’s sadly the system we live in.

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Bitsy54's avatar

My cousin, a 30 year MD recipient, gave me the best advice for staying healthy “stay the hell away from doctors; eat good healthy food, get out doors every day and thank God daily” I’m 69 and healthy, so far so good 😉

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AB's avatar

I am worried about this

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Sadly, it's the state of the system.

Particularly if you married prior to having children and did the marriage license thing that "everybody" does, know that there are three parties to that contract that is called a "license": the two spouses (#1, #2 parties) and the state (#3 party). As part of the contract, the state has the authority to take your children away from you as it deems fit. "Nobody" knows much about this statutory arrangement but it's a real thing.

Create a record of medical care. @Runemasque is right. Been there, in the court system. Fortunately I had a heads up - and heavenly guidance - about legal considerations. Much to consider....

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daverkb's avatar

Did Patrick Henry or George Washington apply to the state for a state permission to get married? The answer is no. Marriages were recorded in family Bibles. Why? Because the family is instituted of God and the family therefore is governed by Biblical law. Applying for a 'marriage license' is applying bondage to the state.

Not consenting to state regulation in a three party contract places the marriage into God's jurisdiction subject to Higher Law (God's and non-infringible by the civil state).

What 'the government' has done is de facto usurped, outlawed God's Law ... and as usual, just forgot to tell anyone about this.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

100%

But even your minister or priest will ask about the license. They are ignorant. Trained like seals to follow dictates they know not the true source of. It's mind boggling the way THEY (The Hierarchy Exploiting You) have upended a perfectly functional system - all to their own benefit. In myriad more ways than the subject contract. 😡🤬👿

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Bryan Dair's avatar

How is marriage defined in the bible?

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Copernicus's avatar

Yes! Exactly!

Not demonstrating consistent well child care is a definite ding against a parent! Interpreted as a sign of possible neglect. And especially true if you have chosen to not vaccinate.

Speaking of which, ours needs to get one scheduled. 🙄

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Unfortunately well child care has nothing to do with wellness and everything to do with pushing vaccines and meds. It’s ridiculous.

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FourWinds's avatar

If I am not mistaken, these 'doctors' get paid bonuses for fulling jabbing the kids.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Yes they do, and this doctor is with the Cleveland Clinic, so I know they push vaccines.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh 😡

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rolandttg's avatar

Wish they had called me. I take crap from no one, and know how to defend myself from people who think they know more than I do. My sister once asked my mother why she did not talk to me the way she berated her. Mom replied 'because he wouldn't stand for it".

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Copernicus's avatar

The doctors offices get reimbursement rates lowered if they don’t meet insurance company “quality” measures. 🙁

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Cyn's avatar

There’s a great Netflix series, The Resident, that shamefully exposes the healthcare system and its true intent; profits over patients!

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PJ's avatar

Ty. I will watch that with my hubby. I try to tell him that people in the healthcare system don't always have his best interests at heart, but he finds it hard to believe. It's too painful for him to think about. So he rather just pretend it can't be true.

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Cyn's avatar

I have to admit, I’m hooked on the characters and the story, but it does show the docs and nurses that understand the system and how they try to work within it/around it, and their conflicts, to actually help their patients, battling the administration and staff that are clearly in it for the $$$. I also understand a hospital has to remain financially stable as well; it is a business. It just shows how bad things have gotten in a country which should have the best health care in the world.

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Jackie Schroeder's avatar

I can’t seem to find the series name. Please let me know what it is!

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Cyn's avatar

The Resident, on Netflix

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Many years ago, I told a friend that the allopathic medical system is not about wellness.....it's about sickness. And her eyes were opened.......

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FourWinds's avatar

Yep - 100%!! I am so glad you had luck with your friend seeing the light. I have failed miserably with everyone I know. At least my dad reading C&C stopped him from getting more "boosters".

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Amen

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Paige Green's avatar

I had a complete dislocation of the shoulder last July and had to go to the ER. I was scared to death. It worked out ok, and I have almost complete use of it without surgery. A positive attitude and having gone through physical therapy in 2019 I think helped a lot. Eased back into work within two months.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Same here! I cut my finger to the bone, treated myself, and for a dog bite ( that one still freaks me out if I think about it) but I wasn’t going to go in and get jabbed full of cr*p! Did a lot of praying and still do that I never come down with rabies 😬

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Olefaithfull's avatar

Be aware- and remind the nurse- that the nurse was practicing beyond her scope of practice.

Interpreting lab results independent of a medical doctor or appropriately supervised midlevel practitioner is practicing medicine without a license. Even with “protocols” in place.

Add that as a diligent healthcare consumer you must report her to the nursing board!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Depending on the licensure, experience and jurisdiction (state) of a Nurse Practitioner or Advanced Practice Registered Nurse, some NPs/APRNs are allowed to interpret lab results. RNs (Registered Nurse licensure) cannot interpret labs and recommend treatment. The questions in your friend's case are location (state) and licensure of the "nurse". Don't know if that helps. (Do I think prior interpretation by a physician or licensed practitioner relative to a home visit could be fudged if it came down to adjudication? Would have to be proven, but anything is possible. Right?)

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FourWinds's avatar

My dad (84) had some nurse call from the insurance company who wanted to come to the home. I told him to tell them to go jump in a lake, and if he did not, I would (I have POA). The satanic retirement community he lives in has asked all residents to provide them with medical details, such as asking if they took the jabs. I told him to ignore that question even though it was labeled mandatory. What the H business is it of theirs?!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Be sure that if you have elderly parents, they have a responsible POA. I'm so thankful that I had my mom's medical POA. Elderly persons can be easily manipulated and lied to and there are many unscrupulous people out there.

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Oma's avatar

We are “Elderly Parents” 😂 and our kids know that we will let them know when we want them to interfere with our business 😂😂😂. Hubby and I check our “sanity” by reading C&C and all the comments. When we shake our heads yes, we know we’re ok. We’ve told our kids when we look confused after reading C&C first thing in the morning, double our cleaning people 😂 and send food!

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PS we do have all our POA, Living Will, Lady Bird Deed, etc in place and we’re good to go. That’s just the responsible thing to do. You are right, Robin, calls daily from Humana, Medicare and on and on and no we will never let them inside our home to tell me they are going to inspect my home for “dangers” in anything (especially my art room😊). We don’t answer the land line when their name comes up. That’s the number we give out to use for that exact purpose.

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Robin Greer's avatar

It comes at different times for different people. But it can also come unexpectedly. My POA was only effective if my mom was unable to make decisions and fortunately my mom trusted me and knew that I had her best interest at heart.

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FourWinds's avatar

I am my dad's POA and I am rabid when it comes to anyone trying to pull medical crap on him. It won't happen, not on my watch. It's exhausting but worth it.

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Robin Greer's avatar

So glad you are his advocate. Everyone needs one.

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P Flournoy's avatar

My mom was in a retirement community for a while and I absolutely detested the staff in the office. I also had the POA and I let her live there for a couple of years with me Living in her apartment about 90% of the time more and they said they got with their questions And acting like they were the guardian. I finally bought a condo and moved her in with my dad who she hadn’t laid eyes on in 40 years (divorced) and they enjoyed each other‘s company. I found a wonderful daycare where she could go during the day and make new friends. It was the best decision I ever made, and I’m sure God provided the wisdom to see a different path. Prayer guided me through seven years of taking care of my parents who had different types of dementia.

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Brenda Ping's avatar

Yes my Medicare doctor’s office calls all the time for my “wellness” check. Last time I said “I’m fine. Thank you for checking on me.” Lol

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RunningLogic's avatar

It seems some people in health care don’t like feeling as if they’re not “doing something” so they look for issues where there are none 😕

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Joypam's avatar

Just like any other gov bureaucrat

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup exactly.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup and that’s also why there are groups working against midwife care and home births.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Re medical insurance: Consider healthcare cost sharing as an alternative to traditional insurance: MediShare, a Christian faith-based group, pools monthly contributions and makes offsetting payments to its members for their healthcare costs. We were in this program for several years prior to reaching Medicare age, and it was both easy to navigate and of great benefit.

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EJay's avatar

I've been w/ Medishare for years. They are Christian but often in name only. Their process and procedures are being overtaken by the world and it is an alternative but its a sad game. They use same but different language. Check the BMI for the stats you present b/c if you're out of range? They WILL bilk you w/ a monthly fee... no matter how healthy you are. Our claims have been non-existent for 5 years but I'd have to submit blood-work and be "approved" by a nurse before they drop their "health partnership fee" which is basically a fat tax. Nevermind the BMI has been repeatedly proven to be no measure nor indicator of good health. They also just changed their provider network reportedly to improve access to providers. I'm about as rural as you can get and I went from having respectable access...to ZIP. So... Oh...and know that you're accessed by the oldest member of your household...and your "household share" (Christian-evasive term for monthly premium) WILL increase remarkably anytime you hit a birthday w/ a 5 or a 0. So...it lets me have the funds for organic food, massage and chiropractic...which keeps me out of the main-stream healthcare so we find it acceptable. HOWEVER, you have to threaten to sue them to receive a paper-statement...AND they want a bank account tap...or tgey charge you an exhorbitant fee to pay online...which they spent 2 years forcing everyone to "to be a good financial steward." ONLY THING IS? They can take 20+ BUSINESS days to receive and process my share payment. They continue to "expand" available services but they care NOT about their families' treatment...their Customer Service staff are unavailable and painfully patronizing. To be woefully inefficient while flying the Christian flag just to make a buck galls me. Oh and a part of their game includes contracting w/ christian financial services who hold your share monies. It stinks when I pay $800/mo, never have any claims, and then get a savings statement w/ a balance that stays over $4K...while they pander for "manna" to give "extra blessings" to those w/ bills outside their medical plan. Grrrr. I pray for them...they're the best of the worst...but w/ all apologies....THEY JUST REALLY SUCK. And NO...the area better business bureaus nor state AGs care about their illegal practices of not processing timely nor using the funds they collect for the purposes advertised. I loved them for years...but once you really experience who they are vs. what they advertise themselves to be? You realize it's socially-accepted legalized extortion that uses Christianity for profit. 🤢🙏

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Excellent info. Thanks!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow 😳 I really hate when companies tout how “Christian” they are to give themselves cover to fleece you 😡

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Olefaithfull's avatar

I knew a building contractor who had 100% rate of being burned by anyone having the Christian fish symbol on their check and/or invoice.

One. Hundred. Percent.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My mom used to say she didn’t trust businesses that prominently advertised how “Christian” they were because she thought it was more of a marketing ploy than anything else 😕

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daverkb's avatar

Your Mom was right! No real Christian would use God as a marketing tool. But this is what Man does ... and all the time.

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OnTheJump's avatar

That's just it - you don't flaunt it, "trumpet" your "Christian ethics"- you just do it.

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Copernicus's avatar

That’s awful.

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Dena's avatar

Watch out for the “Christian” financial gurus. Mainly the ones that use “Christian” as a marketing term, whether in media or in your Church.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Exactly. It's infuriating.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes. givesendgo is another. They give a big "White-replacement" vibe with Whites being a minority on all their pages. It's like all the other woke-tard stuff we see. So weird.

https://www.givesendgo.com/about

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RunningLogic's avatar

Can you define “white” BFM? Serious question.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Descendants of indigenous Europeans. It's a common sense term that has been used for centuries.

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I don’t know how common sense it is really, tbh, because lots of people you might qualify as “white” have the same skin tone as some people who who are not considered “white.” And apart from Albinos, very few so-called white people actually even have anything approaching white colored skin.

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So how do we decide that? Do a genealogy or DNA test? What if someone is mixed race or you’re not sure which one they look like? Because it’s all based on looks, isn’t it? Unless you are going to require a DNA test and then have people display which race they are so everyone can be sure. I just don’t see how it can be anything but artificial and arbitrary. It’s not like gender where you have chromosomes and clear physical differences almost 100% the time..

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EJay

WOW!! Thank you for this write up!

They would hate my cholesterol number

lol

Especially eating Carnivoire/ Keto (feel great and can still run circles around adult kids 😂) and have taken no prescribed meds almost my whole life (still nothing at 62)

Thanks again for this info~

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Robin Greer's avatar

Just like regular insurance, you never know how good a company is until you have to use the coverage.

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kerimae's avatar

We've been a part of Samaritan Ministries for 15 years and have never had an issue with them. They came through with flying colors for our needs, even the NICU time two of our daughters needed at birth. For every need, we've been blessed with the avalanche of cards and payments. It's a blessing to write my check and own personal note to a fellow believer every month (except one month goes for administrative costs). Would highly recommend, and am sorry for the poor experience the commenter below had with a different health sharing company.

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Seek First God's Kingdom's avatar

We use Samaritan Ministries also, and have been happy with that choice. Good choice for singles as well as families of any size.

Love how we can directly and actively help others by sharing needs, prayers, and help.

We also changed how we eat, we use a chiropractor, and we try to treat the root problems instead of just symptoms. Nothing magical, but those things have made a big difference!

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VanLife Views's avatar

Yep if more people just did that your labs could look good

Diet is so huge folks

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Roger Beal's avatar

Thank you for mentioning the caring notes and personal support members of these groups share with each other. That's as helpful and as uplifting as is the financial assistance, IMO.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

My son and family use Christian Healthcare Ministries and are happy (CHM).

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Martin's avatar

We also have Samaritan’s.

I spent an overnight in the hospital with an unexpected surgery and it was taken care of very well by Samaritans.

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Carl Shafen's avatar

Our sons family is in one. They recently had a premie baby and their bill has now surpassed $1.5m. ! But baby is doing great and is now 7 months old (4 months adjusted)

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I had a 1#10oz baby thirty six years ago. She's wonderful! The "above usual and customary changes" we had to pay after deductible AND to the 100% coverage after that would have bankrupted us.(BluxBlu🛡️) The kind Dr paid $5000 himself! Then we paid a tiny amount every month for years. And why on to have another premie 34wks but were able to take her right home with a biliBLANKET. (Ask your Dr!) And avoided days of hospital stay with strangers.

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Mandy's avatar

Has the Medishare program helped with the bill or are they stuck with it?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Carl, how much of that bill is being covered by their cost-sharing group?

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Carl Shafen's avatar

Not much but it is a negotiating thing with the hospital - truth is it will never pd off-kids pay 200/mo to hospital for rest of their life - which they are fine with!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I looked into doing this last year, because, we are on Medicare and dislike being so--both from principle and experience. Both of us have chosen to purchase in-house "insurance" from our respective dentists, although we pay for the Aetna medical-dental-vision package each month via SocSec deductions.

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Aetna medicare here..forget optical, practically doesn't exist. You still pay. I just go out of pocket to Costco. Dental depends on how much the dentist wants to bilk the insurance company. leaving you with a ridiculous 'savings', and they lie to get more money, and they upsell. Root canals left and right when you don't need them.

It took years for me to find, but the best way to go is an HONEST dentist who owns his own practice for enough years to have everything paid off, rather than have you paying for his practice with your oral health.

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This February (having delayed for two years because I didn’t want the Indian dentist, adn his assistant, multiply-jabbed like all in his office, hanging over my open mouth, exhaling his jab-ness into me), I found—a born-again Christian dentist. Because the Christian business guide had just arrived in mail the previous afternoon. I called, said I wanted to pay out of pocket. They had a slot that day, and fixed the loose crown. Then they had an opening that afternoon, during which I had a cleaning. Dentist’s wife came in, met me, couldn’t believe I could get two appointments that quickly—”it just doesn’t happen!” Serendipitous, much? (no, it was the Hand, I am positive).

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AngelaK's avatar

I have a medicare advantage plan and am very happy with it. I do my own research, so I am not expecting brilliant holistic wisdom from them. I don't need it. I know more than they do..but as we get older we need the testing. and it grants peace of mind for us and our physicians.

If you need surgery, you will be happy to have it. You pay for it anyway. ($170 from social security check)

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Fla Mom's avatar

Perhaps insurance companies will only agree to be second-payer once you reach Medicare age, though; worth checking.

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KBB's avatar

Fla Mom is correct. Once you reach age 65, you can't buy a regular health policy, only a Medicare supplement or advantage plan. I think there are some exceptions if you are still working and have coverage through your employer. But when you stop working, it's Medicare only.

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Tony schiano's avatar

None! And you paid for it and earned it. Almost all providers accept it.

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You're lucky if almost all providers accept it. In my area, short of doctors, many limit the number of Medicare patients they take.

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AngelaK's avatar

All you need to say is NO If you dont want tests, but after my mom was diagnosed with an inoperable and untreatable massive stomach cancer with symptoms she refused to look into for years with a specialist her PCP wanted her to go to, I realized that these tests can be a blessing.

So when I had some gastric reflux and nausea issues after she died, I welcomed an upper endoscopy for peace of mind. and with medicare, it cost nothing in a hospital setting, with propafol anaesthesia.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Please research the propyfol before using again. It has huge support groups full of people who had to admit their parents to full time memory care places with sudden onset dementia post procedure. That drug is the culprit. But glad you got peace of mind with no side effects that time!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

It's collected any time you go to any provider no matter what insurance you have.

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Alison Smith's avatar

That's what I am doing for the next 4 years!

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SD's avatar

There is another Christian Healthcare cost sharing organization: Liberty HealthShare. https://www.libertyhealthshare.org/

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Bingham22's avatar

Liberty Healthshare left us out to dry in the second year of our service. We almost went under financially because they stopped paying their portion of the bills in 2022.

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RunningLogic's avatar

😮 Wow that’s not good at all! Definitely would make me cross them off the list!

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Johnny-O's avatar

My wife was on medishare, and is finding med mutual to be far superior in cost and benefits, fyi.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Is this in all states?

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Roger Beal's avatar

I don't know, but here's their homepage link: https://www.medishare.com/

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’ve heard ads for this but not known anyone who’s used it before, so thank you for sharing your experience!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I know many who have and it has worked out great for them all!

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AngelaK's avatar

I don"t know about medishare, but I always wonder about concierge..so you pay a premium for the doctors, but what do you pay for expensive testing and surgeries? You would still need health insurance. So in the end you are paying health insurance and concierge fees. That is a lot of money!

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AB's avatar

That’s what we experienced. Expensive concierge doc and on top hospital / surgery and med charges (we kept our insurance w/ very high deductible). I believe concierge works as long as you don’t really need a doctor to begin with. Once heart surgery or an appendectomy or such enters the picture you are back in the system.

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AngelaK's avatar

Perhaps concierge is like an old time 'family doctor'. Quite frankly, I find little difference with insurance primary doctors and the old school doctors I remember from 40 years ago, other than sitting at their desk for a few more minutes to talk with the old school ones!

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AB's avatar

My husband and I have a Mayo primary doctor to have access to the Mayo system. He pushes vaccines and procedures but so far a simple ‘no thank you’ or ‘not now’ has worked for me. My husband is older and does all the testing (no vaccines). Access to Mayo was invaluable for us since both of us ended up with surgeries and ER visits there.

I’m still looking for a local family practice that will take my kids with religious exemptions.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s good to know!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good morning C&C!!

Things are looking up, the war isn’t won yet but moving in the right direction!

https://twitchy.com/amy-curtis/2024/05/27/who-pandemic-treaty-fails-n2396641#google_vignette

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Horizons's avatar

I’m more aligned with Sasha Latypova’s view of this, that defeat of the WHO Treaty, while of some benefit for public-awareness purposes, is not a real win.

Her quote: “The laws that enable mass murder, forfeiture or property, arrest without due process, etc. under pretenses of “public health” are already firmly on the books in all states of the US. The HHS can already do everything the WHO pandemic treaty talks about, and they do not need WHO for this.”

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well I guess that’s true but don’t we at least have more of a chance affecting our own legislation in this country than affecting an international body that is really more or less accountable to no one?

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

Dr. Meryl Nass thinks it is a win, as does Bret Weinstein, Team David against Goliath, which is international. There's a convoy to Geneva this week https://www.roadtogeneva.com/convoy/, the Japanese are coming out in the thousands against the vaccines and uploading videos of that. Price of liberty being eternal vigilance and all, we know they'll do an end run or get up to something else to achieve their goals, but this is about international resistance and that is a win as the sleepers awaken. https://merylnass.substack.com/p/a-great-cartoon-for-today

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree, imo while it’s good not to act like it’s over, and forget about it, we should be encouraged by these signs of people being sick and tired of all this nonsense.

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Robin Greer's avatar

We should never rest on our laurels. When we stop pushing back, we fall backwards.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes exactly. But we can still be heartened and encouraged to continue pushing forward by seeing our progress!

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FH's avatar

It’s not a defeat, it’s a delay. Two segments on Bannon’s War Room this morning with details. The guy who heads up the W H O said ‘where there’s a will there’s a way,’ and our sociopathic overlords certainly have the will and the way.

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Chloe Zapata's avatar

I looked up whether US was part of WHO and discovered a Google reference that said DJT was getting out of funding WHO but once Brandon was in office he jumped right back into the WHO pocket.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup, Trump was getting us out of it and defunding it but Biden and Co are all in 😡😕

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Not Me's avatar

Isn’t that all we really need to know in voting for our ne t president?

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Irunthis1's avatar

Yes I remember this well and he was demanding that other countries pay their fair share to the UN/NATO as well---most people don't know/remember how he was trying to get other countries out of our pocketbooks but I do. It was why they tried to say his foreign policy was "bad" even though they were paying more, there were no new wars and peace accords were being done. Such BS.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree.

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Sam's avatar

Yes Trump quit funding the WHO, but then he gave the money to the Gates foundation. Sorry I can’t provide the link, but others have seen it.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

exactly. I said ecohealth defense. but remembered gates was part of whoever he gave it to. it was a sleight of hand magic trick meant to get good publicity while substantially changing absolutely nothing.

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Sam's avatar

And people fell for it. Just like he started no new wars….🙄

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah that was dumb imo.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Trump stopped funding WHO, but immediately transferred the funding to EcoHealthAlliance, which is solely Gates' and just as bad. The only thing anyone cared about was leaving the WHO, not that he put us right into another pot of boiling water closer to home.

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FedUpInOR's avatar

Wow this is terrifying

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MOMinator's avatar

Thanks for the link. I’ve heard Sasha Latypova say that these laws were already on the books…now I have the proof! Ugh. 🤡🌎

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well it sounds like that is something we need to make a concerted push to get changed!

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Valerie's avatar

Good morning RL!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good morning!!

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Double Mc's avatar

HOORAY!

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AngelaK's avatar

😀👍👏

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Here's what Biden will say if Trump is acquitted:

"Protests are part of American Democracy."

Here's what Biden will say if Trump is found guilty:

"Protests are a threat to democracy. You will be arrested and thrown in jail and getting to a hearing will take many months."

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

More like, "you will be held as political prisoner in conditions that rivals anything in a Soviet gulag."

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Emumundo's avatar

And we thought Solzhenitsyn was writing about Russia. Little did we know he was predicting our future. I always wondered why he moved back to Russia.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If the treatment of the J6ers don't scare Americans, they are not paying attention.

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Robin Greer's avatar

I heard a father of one of the J6protestors on Mark Levin. The father believes that there's no way they will ALLOW Trump back in the White House. He based this on the all out war against his son.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The J6ers have suffered terribly while in jail.

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Angus McPherson's avatar

J6 and the responses to it were trying to prevent even bigger protests in the future. To quell anyone from daring to say an election was rigged. And of course, Biden walked into office and passed millions of individuals across the border, and some of them had instructions to go to swing states, and register to vote.

The left's dream is that DJT will be convicted and be sentenced and be forced to serve time. I don't know that this will happen. But this circus is going to have to stop performing very soon, they are destroying our freedom and our well being.

"Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed,—That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new Government"

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BANDERSEN's avatar

"it is difficult to conceive how our (health care) system could be any worse." Try Canada where one of the first things they ask you in the emergency room is if you'd like to consider assisted suicide.

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FourWinds's avatar

I know that assisted suicide is pushed in Canada, but are you serious? Would they ask that if a person had, say, a broken arm? I'm not doubting you as much as I am stunned.

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sunsandwind's avatar

I doubt it. Nonetheless, it's being offered for things where proper care would be a solution.

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PJ's avatar

Like depression. I don't even want to visit Canada. That country is lost.

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AngelaK's avatar

And UK NHS, where you have to wait half a year for some tests, even if symptoms seem dire.

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KBB's avatar

I saw a great meme the other day. Three doctors, all answering the patient's statement "I need stitches." UK doctor: Fine, but you'll have to wait 18 months. US doctor: Fine, but that will be $50,000. Canada doctor: Have you considered dying?

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AngelaK's avatar

👍

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Here is a clip from Jordan Peterson interviewing Kelsi Sheren, who describes what actually happens to a person who is MAID-ed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3YYxOfwrsrU

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Robin Greer's avatar

That's truly insane.

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Dr Linda's avatar

You know, I might just start checking the “I might be pregnant box” for fun. If a man can be pregnant, so can I. At least, I have all the equipment.

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Marie's avatar

Crazy story relating to this is my husband got a phone call way beck in 2022 when he had tested positive for Covid. Unfortunately, at that time we had to test in order to level Canada🥴

But the nurse on the phone asked if he was pregnant…he was shocked. Asked her to repeat the question and she asked again…he said, “how’s that possible I told you I was 69!” We had a great laugh over that one!

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FourWinds's avatar

The fact that the medical establishments ask a biological male or a woman over 60 if they can get pregnant tells you everything you need to know about the medical establishment. 😂

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SB's avatar

I was thinking the same. I think I'll just start checking every box.

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Dr Linda's avatar

👍🏽

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KBB's avatar

The last several times I've had to fill out the paperwork in a health care setting, I've been asked to specify my "Sex at Birth." This is even at the GOOD doctors. Probably they are using a boilerplate form, but it shows how TPTB are trying to subtly push "the narrative."

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup I’ve noticed that too. It's irritating 😡 I was inordinately pleased to note that when I signed my son up for a sports summer camp the other day, the only two choices were male and female.,

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Bitsy54's avatar

Can you write in “no, thank you” to Sex at Birth

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KBB's avatar

Perfect! Very consistent with my answer to another question: "Do you drink alcohol?" - "Yes, please."

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

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Elizabeth “Libby “ Richter's avatar

The cruelty coming from the Biden administration is horrifying. From the torture of the J6 prisoners, the jailing of old ladies (like the 59 year old mom of 15) for the crime of praying at abortion centers, and the trials of Trump, what we have here is a sinister and sadistic government that is out of control.

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Fred & Mary Heiss's avatar

Just started reading today's C& C post and this hit me...NACL. really caused this quote to ring in my head...really deep implications!

NACL...."You are the SALT (NACL)of the earth."

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Irunthis1's avatar

Yes they should change the acronym to NaCl!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh love it!! 😁

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RunningLogic's avatar

Also I saw this post by Illinois attorney Doug Ibendahl yesterday, it does seem encouraging that even in Illinois things are staring to move in the right direction! (It’s long but worth at least skimming):

—Just a quick update for now about the 2-day Illinois Republican State Convention which ended Saturday afternoon in Collinsville. I'll have much more in coming days and weeks. As expected, self-dealing party pooh-bahs sold-out the Republican rank-and-file they have a duty to serve. As expected, the "party" went to incredible lengths to guarantee no semblance of accountability would be restored at this state convention. The Platform & Resolutions Committee (P&R) which had their final meeting on Friday morning didn't even have the decency to record member votes on a resolution which would have given all Republicans their vote back for the state party's governing board. Hours were spent tediously reading boilerplate resolutions which maybe 2 people will ever even glance at after this weekend. Meanwhile, all 17 P&R members (each chosen by a member of the state party's governing board which 99.999% of Republicans currently have zero say in picking, refused to even discuss restoring our vote in the only meeting the P&R held which wasn't held in complete secrecy. The fix was in at least a week in advance. The resolution which would restore our vote could not get a vote by all delegates on the floor unless it was first approved by the P&R. But don't worry, I am going to make all of them famous for their sleazy betrayal of Republican voters. They stupidly played into our hands. We separated a lot of wheat from the chaff this weekend. The other good news is that the proven lies & rigging from cowardly pooh-bahs finally became too much for most Republicans this year. Another of the rigged convention committees nominated Mark Shaw for the party office of National Committeeman. The delegates were expected to just be subservient little peasants & rubberstamp that nomination. That didn't happen. Around two-thirds of the delegates loudly rejected the nomination of Mark Shaw. Even though the NAYS from the floor were clearly MUCH louder than the AYES, Don Tracy from the podium initially tried to declare the AYES had it. This did not go over well with the peasants. Finally after a couple of hours of more denial by the pooh-bahs, Mark Shaw finally threw in the towel. Dean White is the new National Committeeman. It was a wonderful display of what the rank-and-file can accomplish if given any fair opportunity. And as you can imagine, the pooh-bahs were not happy. Most seemed to be in shock that mere Republican voters would have the nerve to push back on their sleazy directives. That's how out of touch & stupendously dumb many of these pooh-bahs truly are. No doubt the only lesson most of them are taking away from this is that they shouldn't have left ANY crack in the accountability door. I'm sure many are asking themselves, why did we give Republican voters ANY say in state party operation? It was wonderful to watch. Kudos to everyone who stood up to the incompetent bosses. Oh and by the way, of the 3 candidates for National Committeeman, Mark Shaw was the only one OPPOSED to restoring direct elections. #GoodRiddance #DontLetTheDoorHitYouOnTheWayOut

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Are you in Illinois too? I have given up on fixing things here. The last two elections for Governor were rigged and stolen by criminal Pritzker. Downstate counties are far and away red, but the Chicago corruption controls the state.

My hope is for the New Illinois to be ratified. It is well on the way, and that will give us real representation in Congress.

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RunningLogic's avatar

No I am next door in Indiana, but I somehow came across his page on FB a couple of years ago. He’s a huge Trump supporter and very funny in a snarky sort of way (though more abrasive than Jeff). But he often shares important information, and like I said, I find him entertaining and insightful also.

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

You mean the Governor…RL?

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CeeMcG's avatar

I think he’s referring to Illinois attorney Doug Ibendahl.

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RunningLogic's avatar

She (if you’re talking about my post) 😉

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CeeMcG's avatar

Sorry about that!

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RunningLogic's avatar

The governor?? I’m not following you, I’m sorry 😞

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Robin's avatar

Dave, recently saw a response calling him Prickzer!!! Your chuckle for the day!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Robin - Yes, we call him that too. For four years I have seen yard signs saying "Pritzker Sucks". He is part of the criminal regime here.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

I’ll and nys. Exactly the same. Corrupt welfare scum control an extremely conservative majority. Who said crime doesn’t pay?

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WP William's avatar

RePukeLickrats like these are contented cowards who've sold us out to our masters and are happy to eat the crumbs off the floor and lick the boots of their "opponents".

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RunningLogic's avatar

Exactly but the point is, the tide is starting to turn against them finally, even in a state like Illinois.

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walk2write's avatar

I pray that you're right. Illinois is our home state, and it grieves me to see how close it is to going down the drain. It has been circling said drain for quite some time.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well it seems like there are some who are ready to fight, according to Mr Ibendahl at least!

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Fla Mom's avatar

This attitude by long-time party insiders is the same in Florida, I'm sorry to tell you.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I am not surprised but it is encouraging that even in blue Illinois there is a push for change!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

We just have to maintain the hold over the cities. Just like everywhere, welfare wins.

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Cyn's avatar

Would love for you to share with us a transcript of your speech to the NACL! Thank you in advance!😊

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ooh yes!! Same!!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Obviously, the illegitimate Biden admin KNOW what the verdict is going to be, because they have corrupt Merchan doing their dirty work for them. It's a show trial put on for election interference.

Thankfully, the American people are awake to the BS.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well and they also have DOJ tentacles all over into the various Trump trials 😡

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Peace's avatar

If Biden is prepared to give a speech right after they announce, he would have to have 5 separate speeches already prepared based on all the possible outcomes. Unless he knows the outcome before the jury decides upon it . . .

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RunningLogic's avatar

He can’t even follow five separate words, let alone five separate speeches 😕🙄

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Mandy's avatar

Since Jeff mentioned liberty in this post, I thought I would do a little PSA. We have a son who just finished his first year at liberty. I highly recommend the school. He has had an awesome experience so far. Additionally, we have two children who use the liberty University online Academy program. If you graduate from this program, liberty gives you a 50% off scholarship at liberty University residential and 15% off at liberty University online. My oldest son graduated from the liberty University online Academy program and was able to graduate in four years with a high school diploma and an associates degree in business. I only bring these up because they are wonderful opportunities and resources that you might be interested in. we’ve been very happy with the university and the Academy and would highly recommend them to others.

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Mandy's avatar

Liberty University online Academy is an excellent alternative if you’re fed up with the public schools and don’t want to pay private school tuition.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Thanks for the tip!

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CHop's avatar

Liberty was one of the few Universities to stay in person in 2020!

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Jane Nelson's avatar

Healthcare: we do self pay. I recently paid $310 for an MRI that would have cost around $7000 going through insurance. We have a $6k deductible and don't even try to meet that. Part of it is we see holistic doctors that operate outside of the insurance system. We could file with insurance, but they typically only pay for an office visit. We get better care. And are drug free, something most 60+ people can't say. Oh, andwe eat healthy, exercise, and take supplements based on blood tests.

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Alison Smith's avatar

After I recently retired, not Medicare eligible yet, I joined a Christian health sharing group. I pay all events that are under $2500, and then I send in bills for events that are over $2500 for reimbursement. Much more cost effective than my option of paying almost $700 a month until I turned 65.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Please see my comment above about MediShare.

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Not Me's avatar

I joined a Christian health sharing group but told my doctors I did not have insurance—-which is true. You cannot deduct the Medishare charges on your taxes. I told them I would pay cash and they always gave me a price comparable to Medicare.

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Speaking of taxes... If your employment, or any way you receive remuneration or money, including investment income (including real estate), is not connected with the federal government, you don't live in D.C. or one of the US territories, and if you are not a naturalized US Citizen, chances are you do not have a federal income tax liability.

The federal income tax is imposed on most Americans under color of law.

The federal income tax as written in US Code Title 26 is legal, but its language is deliberately obfuscating. --

Just as a for instance, are you aware that there is a definition in the code for "includes" and "including"? Don't English speakers know what these words mean? Ah, there's the rub. Part of their crafty linguistics involves creating new 𝗹𝗲𝗴𝗮𝗹 𝘁𝗲𝗿𝗺𝘀 that are spelled the same and sound the same as English words. The legal terms have very specific definitions and meanings quite different from those of common English words. --

The definition of "includes" and "including" can be found in the code at §7701(c). It reads: "𝘐𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘥 𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮𝘴 "𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘦𝘴" 𝘢𝘯𝘥 "𝘪𝘯𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘪𝘯𝘨" 𝘸𝘩𝘦𝘯 𝘶𝘴𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘢 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘪𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘤𝘰𝘯𝘵𝘢𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥 𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘴 𝘵𝘪𝘵𝘭𝘦 𝘴𝘩𝘢𝘭𝘭 𝘯𝘰𝘵 𝘣𝘦 𝘥𝘦𝘦𝘮𝘦𝘥 𝘵𝘰 𝘦𝘹𝘤𝘭𝘶𝘥𝘦 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯𝘨𝘴 𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳𝘸𝘪𝘴𝘦 𝘸𝘪𝘵𝘩𝘪𝘯 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘮𝘦𝘢𝘯𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘰𝘧 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘵𝘦𝘳𝘮 𝘥𝘦𝘧𝘪𝘯𝘦𝘥." --

Is that clear? As mud, maybe? Think it might need some unpacking? --

There is no way I can fill in enormous gaps here in a comments section. Let me refer you to the treatise that expounds on and exposes the truth about the federal income tax fraud scheme. The book 𝘊𝘳𝘢𝘤𝘬𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘵𝘩𝘦 𝘊𝘰𝘥𝘦: 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘍𝘢𝘴𝘤𝘪𝘯𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘯𝘨 𝘛𝘳𝘶𝘵𝘩 𝘈𝘣𝘰𝘶𝘵 𝘛𝘢𝘹𝘢𝘵𝘪𝘰𝘯 𝘪𝘯 𝘈𝘮𝘦𝘳𝘪𝘤𝘢, all 200+ pages, can now be read on the author's website for f*ree. https://www.losthorizons.com --

My reaction to this material mid 20teens was fraught with cognitive dissonance. I had already decided 9/11 was an inside job, and JFK was a conspiracy, but this was horrible in another way. I felt it in every cell of my body. You now have covid behind you and more besides. Reading about what THEY (The Hierarchy Exploiting You) have done to the public for generations might not surprise you since you know what THEY're capable of. Getting through the material is a journey. Finding the cojones to stand up to the bully agency is scary but doable. Lots and lots of Americans who don't have a federal tax liability (and often no state tax liability) do not surrender to the beast. 🙋‍♀️ It takes some doing, but is SO worth it! --

As support, check out the Bulletin Board section on the author's website. Also, a C&C commenter posted in this space a couple of months ago about her accomplishment sticking it to the IRS. See comment by @Peggy B just above this one in longer comment thread. (You must first click on "Return to thread" at top of comment. Should take you directly to location.) 🤞*edit - oops, forgot to include link: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/in-the-mud-monday-march-25-2024-c/comments#comment-52460177

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Michael Srite's avatar

The author of "Cracking the Code," Mr. Peter Hendrickson, and his wife, Mrs. Doreen Hendrickson, are both convicted felons for having committed tax fraud and other tax-related crimes. Your mileage may vary, but I wouldn't count on it.

Consider the fact that the tax code is amended every year for one reason or another. If there were some actual definitional interpretation of "includes," as purported by the Hendricksons, that exempts most people from paying income taxes pray tell why the code wouldn't be amended to fix that problem?

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Before you jump to conclusions, I don't know where you sourced your information about the Hendricksons. A "wiki" source maybe? Owned by the corporo-/technocrats? --

Are you aware that in the case of Mrs. Hendrickson, in her court case she was presented with a choice of 1) signing a court-prepared statement (as if it were her making the statement) that she knew was not true or be faced with contempt of court (she would perjure herself if she signed - and be subject to penalties for that crime; she refused to sign) - OR - 2) recanting her declaration on her signed tax documents (which she knew to be true and honest) that says, right on every tax return right above where you sign, that you sign below under penalties of perjury that the information is true and correct? Which would you choose? Are you getting the picture? The government has been persecuting the Hendrickson's for decades. You bet they put them in prison. They are precursors to Daniel Penney, J6ers, Ed Snowden, Julian Assange, Donald J Trump love-'im-or-hate-'im or name your political target meant to teach all of us a lesson and keep us quiet. --

The definition of "includes" and "including" can be found in the tax code. I put the location in my comment. It is not a definition as "purported by the Hendricksons." The code is not amended in certain cases because it is written so as to conceal its true nature - and so that it can be continued to be imposed on Americans under color of law. --

Do you believe that corporations are persons? By the way, "persons" is a legal term, defined in US Code Title 26 at §7701(a)(1) 𝗔𝗡𝗗 it just so happens has the legal term "includes" in its definition. They have purposely twisted like a pretzel the wording in the code, changing the meaning of words by creating legal terms that look like common English words but that mean something quite different and distinct such that for normal people it is nearly impossible to decipher the true meaning of the code. Mr. Hendrickson has done the deciphering. --

Again, before you rush to judgement, you should read his material and THEN decide for yourself. You don't have to buy into his point of view, but if you dismiss it before examining it you put yourself into the category of the sheep that pull from the surface and declare what they've garnered as proof. I suggest you dig deeper. As we are all learning, truths have been hidden from us for way longer than any of us have been alive. US Code Title 26 is just another example. --

Then again, you might be a troll, or the type that craft yourself as sincere but are in fact aggressive, and have to have the last word. I could be mistaken, but I have enough experience with the latter to realize I'm done interacting with you. Be well.

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Michael Srite's avatar

I don't mean any offense. I'd just like people to be careful. There's no doubt the Hendricksons have served time in prison, and it was for doing what they are still advocating other people should do. I will allow there is some reason to hope for a better outcome. Maybe their thing could still work, somehow, if millions of people did it and the judicial system became overwhelmed and collapsed trying to put them all in prison.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

What is your monthly cost (what we would know as premium)?

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I am paying $165 a month for single coverage.

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