Walz is much like Harris in that they are chameleons. People who are not smart or strong get through life by adapting to the whims of those up the chain from them. Leftists leaders love these people b/c they bend the knee. Some eventually rise to the top. That is why so many on the left have no real morals or ethics. They just have power and want to punish those who can best them.
Harris has had 92% of her staff quit. As a woman, that tells me a LOT about her. In my 75 years I've been around a lot of really monstrous, basically talentless women who clawed their way to the top through various means, none of which were nice. She doesn't appear very intelligent in the ways that count for being in charge of anything, much less the presidency, but she's got a well honed set of nasty street smarts to push her way upwards.
As a former Minnesotan I knew when he was a candidate to run with Harris that he would be chosen. He did everything to ruin the state, job well done, governor, and the powers that be love that. They know he will be the bestest puppet ever if Harris ever has to step down. We left the state this year. Thought we would never have to hear his voice or see him again. Couldn't take him anymore. Sadly, we didn't run far enough.
And why is the TN National Guard being sent to the Middle East on the 26th, when the hurricane hit? Aren't State NG only supposed to be used for the States?
Americans have lowered the bar for what qualifies as competent in picking presidents. Joe was lost before he was installed and Kammie is even lower yet 50% of America will vote for her.
Democracy is always dicey. It has always been in this country. And yet, in a fair election, the sensibles seem to outweigh the idiots. In a fair election.
What we most have to fear is the illegal invasion. If they vote as planned, the Dems will run us forever. Remember: The Democrats have done this throughout their history; they put blacks on "plantations" to vote for them, they met the immigrants at New York harbor and shuffled them into "plantations" to vote for the Democratic machine. We will lose the country forever, as Elon Musk says, if we lose this election. And the Democrats will be done, for a long time.
I like them both, but interestingly both are Yale Law School graduates. We won't hold that against them. Even Yale can get a couple right every now and then.
I went to University of Colorado in Boulder, often referred to at the time as ‘Little Berkeley.’ I didn’t realize I was conservative until I saw the crazy leftists on campus and thought to myself ‘whatever they are, I’m the opposite.’ Perhaps something similar happened to Vance and Desantis at Yale... the crazies solidified their worldview and also gave them the initiative to try and make a difference politically.
My older brother (now 79) was at UC Berkeley during the free speech era. He grew up in our conservative home, but within 2 years he had turned into a flaming leftist. 60 years later he's still a leftist so they really got him good in his 2 years there.
I know too many young people who leave their conservative homes here in Orange County CA and head off to Berkeley, only to return hating God and hating their parents....
Feels like these conservative areas are targeted (as way too many of our H. S. dole out full Berkeley scholarships) ☹️☹️☹️
Valerie, you were lucky. I never could renew my visa for the people's republic of boulder after the incident where a let the bastards freeze in the dark bumper sticker was discovered on my truck.
"W" comes to mind as a Skull & Bones alum. His actions were that of a deep state forever war puppet (and to think I voted for him twice and used to defend him). Also, allowing his EPA to introduce us to "low sulfur" diesel, which single handedly destroyed countless engines and made for the requirement to add cetane boost to every tank. Thanks "W" for the endless wars, big bank bailouts, EPA nonsense and giving us BHO as the fourth most destructive president behind Wilson, LBJ, and now FJB.
🙄 DeSantis is the best governor in America. He would make an excellent president. His actions have proven his worth. I judge on facts, not on name calling or speculation.
Absolutely, judge on actions. I've always liked DeSantis. He studied up on the whole covid thing and that enabled him to make the bold decisions he has made, all based on his studied knowledge. Until he actually does something really suspicious or bad, I think he's great. Wish we had him here to clean up this cesspool Newsom has made of California.
But I gotta say, I’m fearful of Vance being the future. His connection to Billionaire Peter Thiel is what gives me heartburn. Thiel's company, Palantir, specializes in data analytics and has worked with government agencies, including the NSA and CIA.
Would hate to have increased surveillance on all of us.
It isn't just democrats though. Seen old Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham lately? What about Dan Crenshaw? Where is he??? You may not like MTG's approach, but at least the women is up there fighting.
And Rand Paul & Mike Lee. General Jack Bergman (MI-1st district) is good too. I'd say there are about twenty five congressmen and maybe three senators!
If you don't know him, check out Congressman Byron Donalds from Florida. He's a man to watch. He would make a great governor when DeSantis term limits out.
Yep, and I've realized they only call Congresspersons 'crazy' if they're actually telling a bunch of truth to the American people. Like MTG or Matt Gaetz.
Find me a billionaire whose fortune does not come, in part, from goods/services provided under Federal contracts. The Democrat party wants to "hammer" the First Amendment, if not eviscerate the Constitution. We are being surveilled by our electronic devices constantly. And you're worried about Peter Thiel? The mass surveillance and threats to our Republic must stop. Which candidate is more likely to pursue those goals?
Your comment indicates that all billionaires (and many less wealthy) are dirty and cannot be trusted. I agree. Also, politicians (federal contracts) at any wealth level are all dirty or complicit. Just like the music biz (see the 'Diddy' news) and Hollyweird (Harvey Weinstein, et al), anyone who isn't corrupt(ible) isn't allowed to stay, and they certainly never make it to the top. Every single one of them who isn't actively exposing and reporting these crimes is complicit or directly involved. Even Trump. Even Elon. Even DeSantis.
No, my comment indicates that many billionaires own companies that contract with our government. I don't share your belief that most business people are corrupt. There are sleazy operators (Weinstein, and maybe Diddy, who has the presumption of innocence) but I simply don't believe that everyone is corrupt. Nor do I believe those not corrupt are complicit. I fear nameless federal bureaucrats with nearly unlimited power, who are accountable to no one, more than any person you mentioned.
Susan, thank you for your cordial response and God bless you. I apologize if I came across as a smart aleck.
To clarify, I don’t think all business people are corrupt. I think all of the Biggest businesspeople are corrupt. I believe that a person who refuses to participate in the ungodliness of these ‘elite’ never make it to the very top. And I also believe that ALL of the people who DO make it to the top ARE CORRUPT.
Examples: Actor Kevin Sorbo & Kat Williams. Look them both up on social media and see what they have to say about Hollyweird & the entire music industry.
I understand cooperation in order to get proper things done, but anyone who has knowledge about these crimes without reporting them is complicit according to the law.
And even if they are never prosecuted/punished by man’s law…there will be a day when each of them stand before Christ Jesus alone, and without excuse.
You got a better, pure as the driven snow, been in the world without being the least bit sullied by the ubiquitous evil that surrounds, candidate in mind? And could such a one ever be elected, while evil also votes?
I'm going to wait for Vance to give me a reason to be skeptical. Until then, I will take the wins where we can find them. He's smart, quick on his feet, willing to entertain different ideas and adjust when convinced and unflappable. We could use more like him. Now, that's not to say that Washington won't warp him, but he endured a pretty rough childhood and managed to emerge a pretty solid man. He has my support.
I keep coming back to Carlin ... and his famous 'you are not in the club'. That is, none of the candidates are our candidates. They are promotions, gimmicks of deception. They represent those of the various factions operating within the system. And yes, I know it is natural for us to want to 'vote for us' so to speak. And I would like that very much. However, possibly that last time we remotely voted for 'us' was for Eisenhower and Kennedy ... and only then as to warnings on the MIC and the CIA/Deep State conglomerate. And possibly Reagan. Although Reagan was neutralized. And as a footnote, when asked why Reagan did not do this or that Reagan said to a friend of mine, "Because they won't let me." That was after the failed assassination attempted. And after that, Reagan was never the same. The attempt just plum took the wind out of his sails.
We only vote for better or for worse, for either more Woke or less Woke. And maybe ... for a saner or less sane public policy as to what is good for the strength of the country. One the other hand, please notice that nobody currently in the running for president or vice-president is talking about eliminating the surveillance/terror state. Nobody is talking about fake constitutional pretense. Nobody is talking about real money as the basis for personal and business transaction ... or for trade settlement. Nobody is exposing C19 Health Terrorism for what it was, nor prosecuting murdering and maiming Health Terrorism criminals. And nobody has talked about or defrocked that fake pretext for Endless War which was staged on a fall day some twenty-three years ago. And this is only the short list. And to the point, nobody is dealing with fundamental reality and fundamental moral concerns. They, the political class, only argue back and forth as to the dubious merits of symptoms.
And so, we are not voting for Liberty or for a severing from the chains of our enslavement. We are at best voting for an amelioration of symptoms in the form of 'adjustments'. And granted some of the adjustments could be significant, like a possible bid to American re-industrialization.
Be this as it may, we must never be is clouded in the reality of what is being done to us ... and that's by both facts and means.
Those who speak the truth usually are lonely and on the margin because the vast majority can't handle the entire brutal reality. Everyone wants a savior right now to fix things so they can carry on their lives within their comfort zones.
This then from T. S. Eliot ... at or near the end of the first section of the first of Eliot's Four Quartets (Burnt Norton):
"Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind
Cannot bear very much reality.
Time past and time future
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present."
And most likely it was a Bluebird which chirpped this little piece of verity into Eliot's ear! And it may be added that humankind also cannot bear too much learning, the kind of which perceives a bio-weapon when such stares one straight in the face.
That was Bryan Johnson. Thiel never actually did it himself, but of course since he was “associated” with Trump the lies spread that he “may” have. He denied it openly. The claimed were never verified but as they always do they will dig up old gossip to make it true again just by repeating it.
JD showed the world what a great candidate he is. I need someone to convince me why it matters. Who among us believes this will be an honest election and not selection?
AND ITS GOING TO LOOK REALLY ODD WHEN HARRIS/WALX [EDITED] GET 100 MILLION + BALLOTS...
POLITICALsteria: Best VEEP Debate Memes
All for a job not worth a bucket of warm piss, Waltz has friends in low places (school shooters for Harris/Walz), VEEP debate bingo, that sinking feeling (dumber than Kamala) & more VEEP debate memes!
Great observation. I laugh every time you use "Baizuo" to refer to Walz. 我在大学里学了一点中文.
"He actually said this: 'I’ve become friends with school shooters.'”
Tim Walz also confessed to being a "knucklehead" while obfuscating a response to a direct question about whether he actually was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen protests in 1989. He sort of, kind of, admitted he lied about that, hence the "knucklehead" remark.
I found the takeaways from the debate reminiscent of comments about the Dukakis debate with Bush the Elder in 1988 and Dubya's debate with Al Gore in 2000. In the cases of Dukakis and Gore, they were accused of being 'slick' in their ability to answer questions articulately and intelligently in contrast to the Bush tendency to babble. I seem to recall Gore being accused of being "too smart" in contrast to Dubya's blank expressions and 'deer-in-the-headlights' look. Bush the Elder did much better given his years of political experience but was also pretty bad, accusing Dukakis of resorting to "trial lawyer" tactics.
J.D. Vance gave the best debate performance that I have ever personally witnessed. Despite being double-teamed by the moderators (Walz was a non-factor), he answered their questions calmly and intelligently. Whether it will make a difference remains to be seen.
I think what we're all forgetting here is this: Neither Harris nor Vance will ever be "President." Oh, they may assume the titular position, but the Cabal that has been running our government for the past 3.5 years, ousted Biden when they realized he wouldn't win, selected Harris and then forced her acceptance upon the Democratic party will continue to run the show from behind the scenes. They hold the power and we need to understand that they never, ever would have allowed Harris and Waltz to be in this position had they not first received assurances that both would dutifully adhere to the cabal's agenda.
Yes and no. I do believe there has been an amorphous "Deep State" that has been "moving and shaking" things for that long, but more recently, I believe that a Faustian Bargain was offered Joe Biden before he was given the green light to run in 2020, and those who made that deal function in a much more organized, coordinated and purposeful structure. IMHO
I agree, at some point we are going to have to deal with the cabal, with extreme prejudice. Trump is our best option to start dealing with the cabal after what they have done to him personally for 8 years.
And to be clear, the cabal knows it is coming and it is why they have already attempted two assassination attempts... and there will be more. I pray to God He continues to protect Trump.
If Trump weren't such a threat to the cabal, they wouldn't bother with him. That should be clear to everyone. They thought he was a buffoon who couldn't possibly win, and it looked like Hillary was winning right up until the election. That's the point where their alarms went off big time.
I'm almost as fearful of a Harris win as I am of the people who would mindlessly elect her. It's truly shocking that anyone with half a brain would find Harris and the Democrat party compelling at this point.
He's a congenital liar, like all uniparty politicians, they sound great, their policy and legislative efforts are killing America - with intent. Here's a very interesting take on Kamala's word salad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDX5q30V_-E
Watching him - even in short clips - it became very obvious why the campaign has been hiding him. I don't know if its the timbre of his spoken voice or the nasal quality or even the midwest accent, but there is something distinctively bothersome about his affect. I'm still trying to put my finger on it.
I was noticing how he looked when Vance was speaking and Walz had his head turned to look at Vance. His expressions were really strange viewed from the side like that. Weird, almost animal like. He looked fearful of what Vance was saying. But it's hard to put a finger on it, just really really weird expressions.
I think he was fearful, though perhaps not of Vance (who did very well.) I strongly suspect that Walz is compromised and maybe a target for blackmail -- the China trips and other rumors. If he doesn't perform, he may be under threat. Sounds alarmist,but something is not quite right there.
Daniel, I never trust a liar. I don't mean little white lies like, "Do you like my new haircut?" Me: "Yes!" when I actually think it's an awful haircut! But a person who lies about their accomplishments, or education will probably lie about just about anything and absolutely can not be trusted...Just my opinion;)
I hope she's right. I live in the middle of AWFL central and these women are insufferable (I say that as a woman). Some are STILL WEARING MASKS and have their Ukraine bling on display. I'm serious. And they have the whole "Free Library" stands in their yards and trans flags of support. And I'm in a pink (though rapidly going more blue) rural-suburban area. I just really hope the referenced Substacker is right.
Well my guess is that this is just another virtue signaling ploy, just like the 'In this house we believe...' signs I see as I am out knocking doors for the last 2-3 years. And given what we have learned is in our schools' libraries, what is in these little free library stands may not be wholesome.
re: J.D. Vance won the debate because he is wicked smart, well-spoken, and was unburdened by the necessity of pretense.
What a magnificent performance from Vance, now clearly the future of the MAGA movement. And, for the record, who chose Vance????? Donald J. Trump!! Proving again what a master decision maker the man is.
Sort of. JD was amazing. But I heard the actual choice was Donald Trump Jr who picked him. DJT signed off on him. Obviously he has the final say. But if Jr hadn’t brought him up its doubtful he would be there. 💕
Trump Jr may have helped by providing input, but you are correct: Trump Sr had the final say. And he made the right decision, AGAIN!!
Vance was the perfect choice, someone who initially claimed Trump was awful, but completely had his mind changed by 4 years of Trump's beautiful America First presidency. Vance demonstrated the kind of statesmanship we are yearning for to be with Trump as they restore our country. Exceptionally proud of Trump and Vance.
yes, I completely agree with you. Initially he was against Trump (he didn't like his personality). I remember being disappointed by that and thinking it was short-sighted. In his book he covers why people from his town were drawn to Trump. Because they were forgotten and Trump was the first person to speak to them in decades. I do think JD finally realized though that even if Trump doesn't say or do everything perfectly, he does a LOT of things right. Our country was solid when he was in charge. I was feeling very safe and content with him as President and I pray for that feeling again.
Woke has gotten so hyper-Woke that much of the political and financial crowd, throw in commentators like Tucker and business people like Musk, now see a threat to their lives and property which has them horrified as to consequences to them. The persecutions in lawfare, the cancelling, the looting of assets, etc. makes switching sides just a good sense existential threat decision.
There is a dailing back movement in progress because there is a Reign of Terror going on and it is upsetting to a lot of people with wealth and position. Changing sides and narratives is now a matter of long term horizon survival.
I pray that you are right. We desperately need people with resources to wake up and start helping. I have thought for a long time the elites can't be stupid enough to think a middle class collapse would be good for them. Who wants to live in a dirty disgusting society where most people are living in extreme poverty while others live in their protected castles trying to avoid the dirty masses?
Yes, in last night's debate. He admitted falling for MSM propaganda and that he was wrong. The sign of an intelligent person is the ability and willingness to change their views based upon new information. That describes a lot of people including Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Jr., Tucker Carlson, et al.
I "started to flip" during Clinton's term, when he couldn't be pinned down on the definition of "is". But then we had 8 years of W and Cheney, both of whom I hated. I voted for Obama the first time, but then immediately had regrets. I registered as "independent" thereafter. While I believe in a lot of Libertarian principles, they are experts at losing, and their current candidate is a piece of crap, undeserving of the label. As an independent voter, I get to keep them all guessing. I wish all of America would register that way - candidates would have to try harder.
I was a democrat that voted as an independent for years, but before 2016 I knew I had nothing in common with the dems. Hillary made me sick. I always thought of her as a traitor and murderess. I had to get off that party.
Don Jr and JD are friends. But either way, it is refreshing to see President Trump listening more to Don Jr, then to Ivanka and Kushner. Kushner was good on the Abraham Accords but little else...
No, thanks, because my gut instinct is going off on Russell Brand. Just like with Candace Owens. My gut has never been wrong. May not see the truth for awhile so I take a step back approach. It always comes out.
People love to comment like they are in someone's inner circle when they are guessing or worshipping the ground someone walks on that they just KNOW the person. That is why when the Anti-Christ rises one day people will flock from both sides to worship him.
Not sure who you are replying to but if its me, I do. DT Jr said it in an interview that he was the one who found him and said “we need someone like that on our team”
JD’s intellect and communication skills were superior. Kinda like Ohio State playing Minneapolis Community College in Football. Beyond that salient point, the debater who has to lie about lies in order to score points, has little chance of winning.
"Beyond that salient point, the debater who has to lie about lies in order to score points, has little chance of winning."
Sadly, these are the types of critical thought-deprived useful idiots that the puppeteers need to advance their agenda. Like Biden and Harris, Walz does not appear to have the character or the intellectual capability to go "off-script".
Libbies with TDS have those eyes. Talk about fear mongering! A libbie neighbor said she's moving out of the country if Trump gets elected. I said to her: "Try Haiti. And bring your cat and dog. They love pets."😄😉 I am so done with her and her ilk. Be gone useless idiot.
Remember, his wife waxes eloquently about keeping the windows open during the Floyd riots so she could enjoy the smell of destruction. These two are very strange people.
For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through the perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. Now may the God of perseverance and encouragement grant you to be of the same mind with one another according to Christ Jesus, so that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
Vance 2028! Best debate performance in 21st century. The American people actually got to witness how calm, cool, well spoken and eloquent he was. And the media/dems were exposed for their constant vitriol about how he's "weird"....lolol...that's the best they have?!
The media bias in the debate was just as bad as the Trump/Harris debate. It wasn't as obvious because Vance maneuvered through it with ease.
You know it was a bad night for D's when all they can say is that VP debates are inconsequential.
It's almost as if one of the candidates has had to handle a lot of tough and unfair gotcha questions. And the other guy hasn't...
It was so bad, there's a solid chance Pelosi pays him a visit
I wished I got to watch the debate with someone. Vance was so impressive. And to think he said he was nervous 11/10. He showed NO signs he was nervous.
I have incredible respect for what he said his goals were with the debate. He said he wanted to focus a lot on policy. Explain things for the American people. And he was KIND and not berating or childish toward his opponents. He was respectful. Man, can a lot of us learn from him. (and I like Trump)
I can relate to many aspects of his upbringing; not the broken family part, which would have been another bridge seeming too far to cross for sure. Just the extreme poverty, the sense of always being in survival mode, the parents/caregivers being harsh with the children because it’s all they know, the struggle with low self esteem…
What J.D. Vance overcame to get to this place is miraculous.
When you don't have enough money to know that you will be able to pay for your home or put clothes on your kids, the stress that causes has downstream effects that people who haven't experienced it just can't understand. It's much worse than, say, the "I might lose my job" stress that most middle class or even working class people face.
And Vance overcame it with the system working against him as a white male.
Yes. I believe you have to experience it to understand. It has lifelong consequences, some of which can be steered in a positive direction. I know that more than most of my acquaintances, I don’t take anything for granted and I’m grateful for the simplest things. And I expect that which is worthwhile to be difficult to achieve.
Im glad you all are talking about this. I experienced some of it when my parents divorced and there was a ton of financial pain due to a lot of prejudice against women and divorcees at that time. the pain is transferred down to the children, of course, who are downstream.
Reading Hillbilly Elegy was like reading my life story (maybe throw in a little of the Glass Castle). Sadly, there are many, many people living in similarly broken circumstances and the impact of someone on the national stage giving such eloquent voice to these struggles cannot be overstated.
I don't believe for one second that Kamala can relate to any person down on their luck or from a difficult background regardless of race. She is 100% phony and all affectation. And now we learn about her husband's treatment of a girlfriend in addition to his having an affair on his first wife with the family nanny and somehow these people are supposed to be the moral, upright paragons of society??
I used to speak locally in public. Some times I gave a very good account of myself, sometimes not so much so. And I learned that either people have a gift for standing up and holding forth ... or not. That is, there are naturals. And so, knowing what it takes as to preparedness, good organization of thought ... and guessing that Vance is relatively inexperienced in public speaking, I think JD pretty much knocked it out of the park. AND NO MAJOR ERRORS ... and that is huge.
JD looks to be a quick study. He is smart ... and he got 'noticed'. Vance is likely to only get much better ... and more formidble. A very impressive fellow. And we should not have been too surprises. That speech at the RNC was tight, also impressive. The man has got a future no matter what he does.
I watched it with the Jimmy Dore show, and Sabby Sabs, and Barry Cunningham. but I know what you mean, it would be so great to share with a LIke Minded human!
I was hopeful that it was going to be a good debate night, when JD took the time to introduce himself, and he got in there that he served in Iraq and laid out how he got to where he was and equated it to everyday real Americans. Brilliant. Three on one again, and he crushed it! Vance 2028!
I don’t disagree Vance’s debating style was good, but he missed the mark on a couple of issues. For instance child care tax credits do not help stay at home moms who elect to homeschool their children. The tax deduction for dependents does. That tax deduction has not kept up with the rate of inflation over the past decades. Vance should know and promote an increase in the tax deduction for dependents. Power over health issues are not among the limited enumerated powers granted to the federal government by the United States Constitution. That’s explicitly why abortion and health insurance policies belong with the individual states and people. Vance should have stated that. The only reason the Affordable Care Act survived in the Supreme Court is because Justice Roberts rewrote the law, an act he had no authority to do, and made it a tax. Vance and Trump need to return to and emphasize the basics limits of our federal government imposed upon it by our Constitution.
I agree with that belief. Something is wrong with that man. And it was quite strange how others were jumped over, so he became Chief Justice right off the bat.
You are right on the tax credits. There is HUGE incentive for both parents to work. The tax code actually penalizes families who want to have the responsiblity and joy of raising their family and homeschooling their children.
"misapprehend the situations applicable to "the majority??" You are talking about Millenials who are truly going to be the generation that leads us to our death. Millennials and snowflakes are also the morons who received degrees in English literature, philosophy, social work, women's studies and black people studies then expect to earn $100,000 the first year in a job and only do 50% of the work they are required to do. I work with one. I know. They are the cancer that will ultimately devour our country as they whine in their safe spaces and smoke weed when they don't get their way or told they did something wrong.
Whatever. I don't waste time on ridiculous arguments anymore. Just not interested in wasting my energy. Now back to work.
All in good time. There’s a mountain of wrongness to be addressed. I think some catastrophic events may level it, because it seems like more than mere man can handle in a couple hundred years of struggle.
Honestly, part of the problem is the format. It's not a true debate and the moderators curate the questions to focus on their personal issues. I wish there was some other way to pose questions that really matter to the voter and not to Twitter/X.
They think he's weird, because he's "calm, cool, well-spoken, and eloquent." They're not, nor ever have been, any of those things, therefore, they are outside their norm and are considered "weird."
Yeah, I am wondering about that too. His position isn't consequential enough to cost the election though, so I doubt the Dems will remove him. I definitely agree with you about JD- he is a great debater. He has the advantage of having gone to law school though, so there is that.
oh definitely. I guess I wasn't comparing him to Walz so much (who is a buffoon). I was more comparing him to Trump, who I think unfairly gets ripped for not being this great debater. Well, he is an incredible businessman and he is diplomatic enough to keep worldwide peace, something which none of the previous presidents have ever tried to (or wanted to, since they're globalist war-mongers). But I am very glad that JD is as good of a debater as he is. We need that on our side. For some reason America likes smooth talking great debaters and always picks them over business savvy professionals who could actually balance the budget for a change.
And yet what amazes me (even though it shouldn’t) is how my Kamala groupie partners think that Walz crushed it. I mean, even the moderator wouldn’t let him skate around his latest mendacity about Tienanmen, he got owned by JD on the immigration/housing price issue, and my Blue Bubble coworkers think Tim is the Man.
We are two nations. And I can’t wait to relocate to Red country.
He was confirmed into Roman Catholicism in 2019. There’re articles and interviews online. His wife is Hindu and he has talked about accepting many of her practices like becoming a vegetarian. He has not said that he has become a Hindu.
To be fair, we all know he meant to say he was friends with victims of school shooters. I don’t want to be like the MSM who takes a clunky explanation from Trump and runs with a deliberate misinterpretation of it forever. But still…. What a thing to have a gaffe about. Yikes.
I'm not so sure it was a gaffe. I think he said what he meant. The way I look at it is the shooters possess the mental illness and the mental illness is what he has compassion for.
I hope you are correct, that it was a gaffe. I shudder to think someone would defend shooters over embracing their victims.
I interpret his statement as the school shooters aren’t inherently violent; rather it’s the mental distress and all the guns around that flip them over the edge. He’s making THEM into victims! Classic leftist lunatic embracing of victimhood.
And who is perpetrating their mental illness but Walz himself with his insidious policies welcoming trans kids hauled across state lines by anyone sympathetic to their insanity so they can be affirmed, drugged, and diced up without their parents knowledge.
@Coral Kenagy: I think you are 100% correct. The more we read the transcript of what he said, the more it was clear, he meant what he said. It was not about the parents and the victims that he met in his office; it was about the shooters and the stigmatism of mental illness. Then he blamed the guns, like all 'good' commies.
I thought he meant it too. He was talking about mental illness and I thought he was saying he knew these shooters were okay and he had known them personally.
I would like to see Walz do an interview with Robbie Parker or even one of the other actors who just happen to move to town before the mass casualty event. I think it would be very (bug) eye opening!
Words matter! He did say he was friends with school shooters and he didn’t correct or clarify it! I think he was trying to justify their shootings because they’re mentally ill.
Disagree! He meant school shooters to augment his stance that school shooters have mental health issues & should be treated as victims with kindness, understanding & impunity. This is the same way he treats any violent offender. I live in the formerly great state of Minnesota & know the damage this Pillsbury dough boy has done.
Fair point. How many school shooters are even still alive for him to be friends with?
I’m just coming from a point of view that we know Trump never said to inject bleach to cure Covid. Also, there are many more things he said that were worse that we should be focusing on. Just my perspective. But I appreciate yours as well.
Thanks for brining this up. It created a lot of discussion! You are right and we should always look at the raw uncut statements on both sides for full context. In this case, his words in full context make complete logical sense so I’m inclined to take him at his word.
Although watching some of FJB's earlier senate years, one could credibly make the argument that he was also born that way... not the sharpest knife in the drawer, which has only gotten worse since his dementia onset in 2019. Insane that 'they' selected him in 2020 as the Resident.
Good point. We can try to infer what he means based on what he’s done. Same goes for Harris and Trump. Vance is the only top-ticketer who can speak clearly. One out four is pretty good for 21st century politicians.
In full context he followed with the mental health aspect which makes sense paired with school shooters. The full statement was logical and didn’t seem like a mistake. Nothing is taken out of context.
I wasn’t sure what he was trying to say. I was shocked listening to it in real time. But he just blithely went on spinning yarns. Who would intentionally tell on themselves like that?
The difference between gaffs is that Trump’s “gaffs” are crafted by the left by re-ordering his statements or deleting key phrases he said to change the meaning, always taking him completely out of context. Walz on the other hand makes true gaffs without the help of us in anyway. It’s almost as if they reflect the jumbled narrative mess that’s been crammed into his head. Like when he called Kamala a great prostitioner. We didn’t change a word. Yes we know what he meant, but he’s also aware in his own head of the very real and true allegations of her sleeping her way to the top. He could have meant the school shooter either way and it makes sense in either context, but the jumbled mess of propaganda comes through subconsciously with the words one chooses. That’s why it’s better to deal in truth alone because that never happens. LOL. His gaffs matter very much. They are a window to the corrupt narrative.
And other times it’s the gender dysmorphia, the psyche meds and a squad of adult handlers….
Of course there are times when it is simply a media event and there are zero dead people. One example would be the Buffalo supermarket event, which for posterities sake is captured on film.
A bullied kid will seek whatever shelter can be found.
If that shelter is in the only identity that is defended without question, that is what he will seek.
And that identity is that of one having an unnatural sexual identity. They are being herded into that one class where they believe they are sure to find protection.
An identity in Jesus Christ is the only answer to one who does not know that they can have peace that surpasses all understanding.
Now that I read it all again, I wonder if he meant the shooter parents. He didn’t specify and then followed up with the shooter. So maybe he wasn’t even talking about the parents of victims?
Remember what they did in Lahina? No photos of the victims on MSM.. No coverage of vigils held for the victims with professional photos, flowers and teddy bears. No report on the missing children. $700 and a few "Haiti-style" fundraisers, then shove it under the rug. It won't get the coverage unless Trump wins. Then, it's his fault.
And the death toll was much higher than reported. They made the "missing" list go away and never did a census based on people who lived in the area beforehand. It's my understanding that the official figure of 102 is based on bodies/remains that have been matched to specific people.
One of the BEST points Vance made last night was that if Trump is back in office Americans suffering from disasters will come first again. That needed to be said and I’m so glad he did.
ITS INSANE that there is not more attention being focused on this. its a MONUMENTAL TRAGEDY. I hear there are bodies in the trees, in the rivers, tons of them, so many have not been recovered yet.
People on mtn tops yelling for help, out of food, out of water, NOBODY has water. and HELICOPTERS ON THE GROUND THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEARED TO FLY TO GO GET SURVIVORS.
ALSO SOME CRAZY officials (local? ( threatening to ARREST first responders out there rescuing people. there is WAY MORE GOING ON HERE than meets the eye.
the Lithium deposit (huge) is definitely part of it . and so is GEOENGINEERING.
So these rescue personnel are telling you that there’s more dead bodies than are being reported and they believe that and all they’re doing is telling locals like yourself and not involving anybody official who could look into it?
All those missing people are going to have to be accounted for in someway just due to neighbors and relatives looking for them.
Actually, all they are doing is digging bodies out of the mud at this point. The stories are being shared at least, but triage comes before contacting local officials. Also, we have search and rescue folks from all over the country, so they aren’t contacting officials, just doing their jobs.
Well you don’t just take up a dead body and throw it off to the side and move on. It’s a big deal and police or fire rescue or coroner or fill in the blank are always notified.
Re Walz statement about most gun violence being child suicides with firearms… maybe the root cause of that isn’t the gun, but the public schools teaching gender confusion and racialism/oppression. By “maybe”, I mean “for sure”.
@Carrie: Much more likely!!! I can speculate too, that school shootings only started happening since they started drugging the kids (and adults) with Big Pharma behavior "anti-depression medicines" in the 90's... Coincidence? I don't think so... Purposefully to create their "mental health" crisis and condition the population to incrementally allow further erosion of our 2A enumerated God given rights.
Watched every minute of the VP debate and came away very impressed with Vance. Walz is clearly unhinged, but was trying desperately to appear normal. The self-professed friend of school shooters actually said sometimes it's just the guns. We certainly can't pin the blame on those mentally unbalanced individuals toting the guns, can we?!?! He flat out lied throughout the debate and was propped up most of the time by the obviously biased moderators, who consistently referred to Vance's comments as "allegations." If only we had a fair media...sigh.
And why won’t anyone bring up the fact that almost all the “school shooters” were on Big Pharma pills with “crazy” side effects?!🤦♀️🤷🏻♀️it’s not the guns!☕️
Hubby and I watched this debate mainly to see Vance as I have listened to him do several interviews, two with Tucker that were very good. He didn’t become ruffled, he answered smoothly, not taking the bait, and getting points across without going deeply into the weeds. Do I think it changed anything? No. Most people didn’t watch because they consider the VP only window dressing. Walz tried to come on as folksy, Midwestern, but those of us who know him, know he’s anything but…
There was a post on reddit that showed a previous Tim Walz and the new one, and that look of abject terror/deer-in-the-headlights wasn't there in the old photo. The decline is 'interesting' (I guess is the word? Depressing?) to watch.
TBH, the look on Walz face makes me deeply sad, and I have to talk sense into myself and remember his lockdown policies were just as bad as Newscums. NO SYMPATHY.
It’s the effects severe TDS has on so many. It changes them from the inside so completely. My faith in Trump hasn’t changed me one bit because Trump ALLOWS me to deal in truth, so it never taxes my brain
I thought Vance was masterful in the debate and particularly loved it when he challenged the moderators for fact checking him erroneously.
Walz came across as genuine but way out of his league. Like a guy at work who’s in middle management but is ‘retired in place’ because he can’t really accomplish anything, but he’s not so horrible he needs to be fired.
Did you catch that margaret chick condescendingly saying “thanks for the legal lesson” to Vance when he challenged the status of illegals? That was embarrassing for her!
Walz is more of a Marxist than Harris. He’s been to China 20 times, he got an abortion bill pushed through that allows for partial birth abortions, unlicensed doctors performing abortions, gender mutilation on minors without parental consent or knowledge, and more. Abortions are NOT women’s health. Michigan has almost the same heinous amendment, word for word, and I imagine there are more states with the exact same .
His folksy manner is a mask for evil, and people outside of Minneapolis and the medical corridor hate him.
Didn't Walz go to Chi-na for his honeymoon with his wife and and some other people. Strange it never crossed my mind to invite my friends or anyone else along on our honeymoon (not to China.)
Here is one example of Tim Walz's "leadership." Watch the video of Walz's stooges peppering residents in a Minnesota neighborhood with paintballs. How dare they be out on their porches when he had a curfew in place.
"Last year, the Department of Defense entered a ninety-million-dollar agreement with Albemarle Corporation to increase domestic production of lithium for the nation's battery supply chain. Specifically, from Kings Mountain, North Carolina starting by 2025.
This is the same area experiencing what is being described as biblical floods."
I’m tired of “science” using natural disasters as an opportunity to push regulation.
In the CNN article Jeff links to:
“Scientists found climate change, primarily caused by fossil fuel pollution, exacerbated the severity of Helene. The new findings align with previous scientific research, which has shown that storms are intensifying more quickly and producing more rainfall.”
Man that's funny. The side that refuses to accept the idea of causation (it's only ever "correlation" when death follows vax) so easily claims causation in this area: "caused by fossil fuel ".
The Global Warming hoax is out in full force. But Jeff's explanation of the volcano is compelling. Here in Maryland, I've never seen such humidity this time of year.
He was very diplomatic and logical; instead pointing out if you DO support the climate change narrative then the current administration’s policies are often contrary to reducing carbon emissions.
“out in full force”—do you suppose that “they” are tacitly admitting that we are now “over the target” (with apology for three quotations). Here in SE Pa, returned from a week away in early September to discover that all fruit from 4 apple, 3 pear trees of 35 years age had lost their fruit. Not one fruit remained. Can squirrels be so thirsty (we’d not had any rain at that point for 4 weeks)? And husband has been decreasing their population for a few decades. Deer cannot pick fruit 15’ off the ground….
Our fruit fell 3 weeks early. Ornamental flowering crab trees, which were loaded with blossoms in May, had lost every leaf by mid August. Lilacs are reblooming with no leaves on them. Trees are going into early leaf drop. I don’t remember having seen this happen before.
Thank you—I didn’t want to ramble beyond the mysterious fruit drop, but those 35 year old fruit trees are also defoliating. Mature black walnuts (always last to leaf out, first to drop) are dropping their fruit, which is not really too early, but husband points out the fruit are abnormally small. We have lived on this property since ‘87; we are familiar (all too much so) with our walnuts. The summer of ‘95 had a far worse drought; when we walked on the grass, the blades broke off: we had bare soil.
No way to identify trends so fast using actual data.
According to search results, earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old. My calculated won’t even go that high.
50 years of technology to take a few measurements is a tiny snippet of time. That sample size is hilariously unscientific. Only fools would make critical decisions based on such small sampling.
My own company can’t coordinate and manage data predictively within its small scope. The scope of weather is unthinkable with so many variables.
The most important part of the debate was showing the viewers that JD is a competent stand-up guy who could be President himself if the need arised.
It was an Alpha vs a Beta.
Walz is much like Harris in that they are chameleons. People who are not smart or strong get through life by adapting to the whims of those up the chain from them. Leftists leaders love these people b/c they bend the knee. Some eventually rise to the top. That is why so many on the left have no real morals or ethics. They just have power and want to punish those who can best them.
Harris has had 92% of her staff quit. As a woman, that tells me a LOT about her. In my 75 years I've been around a lot of really monstrous, basically talentless women who clawed their way to the top through various means, none of which were nice. She doesn't appear very intelligent in the ways that count for being in charge of anything, much less the presidency, but she's got a well honed set of nasty street smarts to push her way upwards.
I'm 75 and think of Harris like some of THE worst control freak managers with whom I ever had the misfortune to work.
What does her nickname "heels up Harris" tell you? 🤔
Headboard Harris!
As a former Minnesotan I knew when he was a candidate to run with Harris that he would be chosen. He did everything to ruin the state, job well done, governor, and the powers that be love that. They know he will be the bestest puppet ever if Harris ever has to step down. We left the state this year. Thought we would never have to hear his voice or see him again. Couldn't take him anymore. Sadly, we didn't run far enough.
@Tim R: Excellent observation.
Agree, but I would call them lying opportunists.
I think you nailed that assessment!!!
Yes. Especially given Trump’s age and the multiple assassination attempts. This VP debate mattered more than any other, and Vance did a great job.
I felt this as well. Definitely JD has Presidential qualities.
Even Kamala supporters admit JD Vance won the Vice Presidential debate debate!
How about wearing this in front of your democrat neighbor 👇 😄
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Show them this too. It's WAY more Walz history than they want to know about.
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/background-check-for-tonights-vp
And why is the TN National Guard being sent to the Middle East on the 26th, when the hurricane hit? Aren't State NG only supposed to be used for the States?
https://www.tn.gov/military/news/2024/9/26/tennessee-national-guard-task-force-deploying-to-middle-east.html
It also showed struggline GOP voters what party leadership could be, circa 2028 when Trump retires.
Americans have lowered the bar for what qualifies as competent in picking presidents. Joe was lost before he was installed and Kammie is even lower yet 50% of America will vote for her.
Alan Davis,
You’re correct and it’s tragic.
Democracy is always dicey. It has always been in this country. And yet, in a fair election, the sensibles seem to outweigh the idiots. In a fair election.
What we most have to fear is the illegal invasion. If they vote as planned, the Dems will run us forever. Remember: The Democrats have done this throughout their history; they put blacks on "plantations" to vote for them, they met the immigrants at New York harbor and shuffled them into "plantations" to vote for the Democratic machine. We will lose the country forever, as Elon Musk says, if we lose this election. And the Democrats will be done, for a long time.
Stock up.
I should add to this: Tim Walz is a very scary individual indeed.
Yes, if I had to compare him to anyone I felt like he is very similar to DeSantis.
DeSantis: another stand-up guy.
Florida: "where woke goes to die"
Except DeSantis is a neocon, and Vance appears to be a much more nuanced thinker when it comes to foreign relations.
I like them both, but interestingly both are Yale Law School graduates. We won't hold that against them. Even Yale can get a couple right every now and then.
I went to University of Colorado in Boulder, often referred to at the time as ‘Little Berkeley.’ I didn’t realize I was conservative until I saw the crazy leftists on campus and thought to myself ‘whatever they are, I’m the opposite.’ Perhaps something similar happened to Vance and Desantis at Yale... the crazies solidified their worldview and also gave them the initiative to try and make a difference politically.
My older brother (now 79) was at UC Berkeley during the free speech era. He grew up in our conservative home, but within 2 years he had turned into a flaming leftist. 60 years later he's still a leftist so they really got him good in his 2 years there.
I know too many young people who leave their conservative homes here in Orange County CA and head off to Berkeley, only to return hating God and hating their parents....
Feels like these conservative areas are targeted (as way too many of our H. S. dole out full Berkeley scholarships) ☹️☹️☹️
Valerie, you were lucky. I never could renew my visa for the people's republic of boulder after the incident where a let the bastards freeze in the dark bumper sticker was discovered on my truck.
Wait, what? I graduated and left to take a job in New Orleans and never moved back. I still love CO, just haven’t been back to Boulder.
ALWAYS TO BE AWARE OF ANYONE FROM YALE LAW. especially SKULL AND BONES. but I dont think he has the genes to be tapped , thank God.
"W" comes to mind as a Skull & Bones alum. His actions were that of a deep state forever war puppet (and to think I voted for him twice and used to defend him). Also, allowing his EPA to introduce us to "low sulfur" diesel, which single handedly destroyed countless engines and made for the requirement to add cetane boost to every tank. Thanks "W" for the endless wars, big bank bailouts, EPA nonsense and giving us BHO as the fourth most destructive president behind Wilson, LBJ, and now FJB.
You forgot Jimmy Cahtah.
Daily Growler,
🙄 DeSantis is the best governor in America. He would make an excellent president. His actions have proven his worth. I judge on facts, not on name calling or speculation.
Absolutely, judge on actions. I've always liked DeSantis. He studied up on the whole covid thing and that enabled him to make the bold decisions he has made, all based on his studied knowledge. Until he actually does something really suspicious or bad, I think he's great. Wish we had him here to clean up this cesspool Newsom has made of California.
I agree, but I don't trust his alliances with the Deep State....
De Santis sent help to the Helene survivors in WNC so he's ok in my book
Yup, have to agree with that. He takes positive action on multiple fronts and genuinely cares about people.
But way more polished.
I’d support Republicans over Democrats as Democrats are destroying our country: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/how-the-democrats-are-destroying
But I gotta say, I’m fearful of Vance being the future. His connection to Billionaire Peter Thiel is what gives me heartburn. Thiel's company, Palantir, specializes in data analytics and has worked with government agencies, including the NSA and CIA.
Would hate to have increased surveillance on all of us.
It isn't just democrats though. Seen old Mitch McConnell or Lindsey Graham lately? What about Dan Crenshaw? Where is he??? You may not like MTG's approach, but at least the women is up there fighting.
Exactly! Although, I like MTG's approach/style. Someone has to confront them head on.
MTG is feisty and very Trumpy. Someone has to speak up in a way that people at least hear! Love her!
I LOVE MTG. and Massie. the rest .. fuggedaboutit.
I'd add Ron Johnson to those two.
yes thanks.
And Rand Paul & Mike Lee. General Jack Bergman (MI-1st district) is good too. I'd say there are about twenty five congressmen and maybe three senators!
If you don't know him, check out Congressman Byron Donalds from Florida. He's a man to watch. He would make a great governor when DeSantis term limits out.
Yep, and I've realized they only call Congresspersons 'crazy' if they're actually telling a bunch of truth to the American people. Like MTG or Matt Gaetz.
MTG?
Marjorie Taylor Greene from the great state of GA.
TY
:)
Find me a billionaire whose fortune does not come, in part, from goods/services provided under Federal contracts. The Democrat party wants to "hammer" the First Amendment, if not eviscerate the Constitution. We are being surveilled by our electronic devices constantly. And you're worried about Peter Thiel? The mass surveillance and threats to our Republic must stop. Which candidate is more likely to pursue those goals?
Your comment indicates that all billionaires (and many less wealthy) are dirty and cannot be trusted. I agree. Also, politicians (federal contracts) at any wealth level are all dirty or complicit. Just like the music biz (see the 'Diddy' news) and Hollyweird (Harvey Weinstein, et al), anyone who isn't corrupt(ible) isn't allowed to stay, and they certainly never make it to the top. Every single one of them who isn't actively exposing and reporting these crimes is complicit or directly involved. Even Trump. Even Elon. Even DeSantis.
No, my comment indicates that many billionaires own companies that contract with our government. I don't share your belief that most business people are corrupt. There are sleazy operators (Weinstein, and maybe Diddy, who has the presumption of innocence) but I simply don't believe that everyone is corrupt. Nor do I believe those not corrupt are complicit. I fear nameless federal bureaucrats with nearly unlimited power, who are accountable to no one, more than any person you mentioned.
Susan, thank you for your cordial response and God bless you. I apologize if I came across as a smart aleck.
To clarify, I don’t think all business people are corrupt. I think all of the Biggest businesspeople are corrupt. I believe that a person who refuses to participate in the ungodliness of these ‘elite’ never make it to the very top. And I also believe that ALL of the people who DO make it to the top ARE CORRUPT.
Examples: Actor Kevin Sorbo & Kat Williams. Look them both up on social media and see what they have to say about Hollyweird & the entire music industry.
I understand cooperation in order to get proper things done, but anyone who has knowledge about these crimes without reporting them is complicit according to the law.
And even if they are never prosecuted/punished by man’s law…there will be a day when each of them stand before Christ Jesus alone, and without excuse.
You got a better, pure as the driven snow, been in the world without being the least bit sullied by the ubiquitous evil that surrounds, candidate in mind? And could such a one ever be elected, while evil also votes?
I'm going to wait for Vance to give me a reason to be skeptical. Until then, I will take the wins where we can find them. He's smart, quick on his feet, willing to entertain different ideas and adjust when convinced and unflappable. We could use more like him. Now, that's not to say that Washington won't warp him, but he endured a pretty rough childhood and managed to emerge a pretty solid man. He has my support.
Very well stated. I agree 100%.
I keep coming back to Carlin ... and his famous 'you are not in the club'. That is, none of the candidates are our candidates. They are promotions, gimmicks of deception. They represent those of the various factions operating within the system. And yes, I know it is natural for us to want to 'vote for us' so to speak. And I would like that very much. However, possibly that last time we remotely voted for 'us' was for Eisenhower and Kennedy ... and only then as to warnings on the MIC and the CIA/Deep State conglomerate. And possibly Reagan. Although Reagan was neutralized. And as a footnote, when asked why Reagan did not do this or that Reagan said to a friend of mine, "Because they won't let me." That was after the failed assassination attempted. And after that, Reagan was never the same. The attempt just plum took the wind out of his sails.
We only vote for better or for worse, for either more Woke or less Woke. And maybe ... for a saner or less sane public policy as to what is good for the strength of the country. One the other hand, please notice that nobody currently in the running for president or vice-president is talking about eliminating the surveillance/terror state. Nobody is talking about fake constitutional pretense. Nobody is talking about real money as the basis for personal and business transaction ... or for trade settlement. Nobody is exposing C19 Health Terrorism for what it was, nor prosecuting murdering and maiming Health Terrorism criminals. And nobody has talked about or defrocked that fake pretext for Endless War which was staged on a fall day some twenty-three years ago. And this is only the short list. And to the point, nobody is dealing with fundamental reality and fundamental moral concerns. They, the political class, only argue back and forth as to the dubious merits of symptoms.
And so, we are not voting for Liberty or for a severing from the chains of our enslavement. We are at best voting for an amelioration of symptoms in the form of 'adjustments'. And granted some of the adjustments could be significant, like a possible bid to American re-industrialization.
Be this as it may, we must never be is clouded in the reality of what is being done to us ... and that's by both facts and means.
Daverkb
Your comment is brilliant and should have hundreds/thousands of likes.
Thanks much. And yet in this time, such as mine lives a life of its own lonely and on the margin.
Those who speak the truth usually are lonely and on the margin because the vast majority can't handle the entire brutal reality. Everyone wants a savior right now to fix things so they can carry on their lives within their comfort zones.
Ah! Again! The Mighty and August Bluebird!
This then from T. S. Eliot ... at or near the end of the first section of the first of Eliot's Four Quartets (Burnt Norton):
"Go, go, go, said the bird: human kind
Cannot bear very much reality.
Time past and time future
What might have been and what has been
Point to one end, which is always present."
And most likely it was a Bluebird which chirpped this little piece of verity into Eliot's ear! And it may be added that humankind also cannot bear too much learning, the kind of which perceives a bio-weapon when such stares one straight in the face.
@Daverkb 100% agree with your views
also concerned about Palantir, but holding my nose and jumping into the waterfall.
Long PLTR and USA
Too late.
That was Bryan Johnson. Thiel never actually did it himself, but of course since he was “associated” with Trump the lies spread that he “may” have. He denied it openly. The claimed were never verified but as they always do they will dig up old gossip to make it true again just by repeating it.
ok if hes in on the adrenochrome that is not good. but we have no other choice but Trump
JD showed the world what a great candidate he is. I need someone to convince me why it matters. Who among us believes this will be an honest election and not selection?
Not me. 😢😭
AND ITS GOING TO LOOK REALLY ODD WHEN HARRIS/WALX [EDITED] GET 100 MILLION + BALLOTS...
POLITICALsteria: Best VEEP Debate Memes
All for a job not worth a bucket of warm piss, Waltz has friends in low places (school shooters for Harris/Walz), VEEP debate bingo, that sinking feeling (dumber than Kamala) & more VEEP debate memes!
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/politicalsteria-best-veep-debate-memes
Did you mean Harris/Walz ?
Yea opps!
Do you mean "oops" ? 😊
Yeah, they don't spell so great. 😉
JD is the future of the Republican Party!!!!
He SHOULD be but I think he's going to have to drag it screaming and kicking into the future.
I've always rather liked Vance, but now I really like him! What a class act! And he has ten times the intelligence of Walz.
Walz looked like he was ready to cry whenever Vance spoke, atleast in the beginning when I watched.
My concern is that not many people watched. ☹️
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
The Hillbilly Apprentice crushed The Baizuo Manchurian Candidate. Once you see sociopathic Sanpaku eyes, you can’t unsee them. Here are more examples: https://yuribezmenov.substack.com/p/how-to-spot-a-sociopath?utm_source=publication-search
Great observation. I laugh every time you use "Baizuo" to refer to Walz. 我在大学里学了一点中文.
"He actually said this: 'I’ve become friends with school shooters.'”
Tim Walz also confessed to being a "knucklehead" while obfuscating a response to a direct question about whether he actually was in Hong Kong during the Tiananmen protests in 1989. He sort of, kind of, admitted he lied about that, hence the "knucklehead" remark.
I found the takeaways from the debate reminiscent of comments about the Dukakis debate with Bush the Elder in 1988 and Dubya's debate with Al Gore in 2000. In the cases of Dukakis and Gore, they were accused of being 'slick' in their ability to answer questions articulately and intelligently in contrast to the Bush tendency to babble. I seem to recall Gore being accused of being "too smart" in contrast to Dubya's blank expressions and 'deer-in-the-headlights' look. Bush the Elder did much better given his years of political experience but was also pretty bad, accusing Dukakis of resorting to "trial lawyer" tactics.
J.D. Vance gave the best debate performance that I have ever personally witnessed. Despite being double-teamed by the moderators (Walz was a non-factor), he answered their questions calmly and intelligently. Whether it will make a difference remains to be seen.
Just what we want in the Office of the VP - a self-admitted Knucklehead, who is also a self admitted liar. Vance utterly destroyed the knucklehead.
And you are spot on about Vance's performance being the best ever witnessed. It was all that and more.
Can’t even imagine Walz as President! Truly frightening thought!
I think what we're all forgetting here is this: Neither Harris nor Vance will ever be "President." Oh, they may assume the titular position, but the Cabal that has been running our government for the past 3.5 years, ousted Biden when they realized he wouldn't win, selected Harris and then forced her acceptance upon the Democratic party will continue to run the show from behind the scenes. They hold the power and we need to understand that they never, ever would have allowed Harris and Waltz to be in this position had they not first received assurances that both would dutifully adhere to the cabal's agenda.
" ... but the Cabal that has been running our government for the past 3.5 years ... ."
61 years.
Yes and no. I do believe there has been an amorphous "Deep State" that has been "moving and shaking" things for that long, but more recently, I believe that a Faustian Bargain was offered Joe Biden before he was given the green light to run in 2020, and those who made that deal function in a much more organized, coordinated and purposeful structure. IMHO
Yep. Anniversary is coming up next month.
Ty
1871. At least
I agree, at some point we are going to have to deal with the cabal, with extreme prejudice. Trump is our best option to start dealing with the cabal after what they have done to him personally for 8 years.
And to be clear, the cabal knows it is coming and it is why they have already attempted two assassination attempts... and there will be more. I pray to God He continues to protect Trump.
If Trump weren't such a threat to the cabal, they wouldn't bother with him. That should be clear to everyone. They thought he was a buffoon who couldn't possibly win, and it looked like Hillary was winning right up until the election. That's the point where their alarms went off big time.
I’m ready for extreme prejudice! Let’s get er done.
$oro$ and company are President when Demon 😈 crats are in office.
JT 🎯
If you’re going to write fiction, you need a sympathetic protagonist. Trump is a villain.
What a maroon.
We've had a knucklehead for nearly four years.
Two knuckleheads.
Cyn, can't imagine KH as president! In fact I can't imagine what's going on in this country anymore!😩
I'm almost as fearful of a Harris win as I am of the people who would mindlessly elect her. It's truly shocking that anyone with half a brain would find Harris and the Democrat party compelling at this point.
They're voting for "black woman", or just "not trump". They believe whatever bs their "news" and their friends tell them.
They don't have brains anymore..not ones that are not brainwashed by lies and mantras and fear mongering of the left.
It’s a truly frightening thought that they ( Harris/Walz) are both communists!
If you get a chance please listen to Zi Van Fleet’s warning:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-charlie-kirk-show/id1460600818?i=1000671359524
He's a congenital liar, like all uniparty politicians, they sound great, their policy and legislative efforts are killing America - with intent. Here's a very interesting take on Kamala's word salad: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hDX5q30V_-E
Watching him - even in short clips - it became very obvious why the campaign has been hiding him. I don't know if its the timbre of his spoken voice or the nasal quality or even the midwest accent, but there is something distinctively bothersome about his affect. I'm still trying to put my finger on it.
I was noticing how he looked when Vance was speaking and Walz had his head turned to look at Vance. His expressions were really strange viewed from the side like that. Weird, almost animal like. He looked fearful of what Vance was saying. But it's hard to put a finger on it, just really really weird expressions.
To me, he looked like he was almost ready to cry!
I think he was fearful, though perhaps not of Vance (who did very well.) I strongly suspect that Walz is compromised and maybe a target for blackmail -- the China trips and other rumors. If he doesn't perform, he may be under threat. Sounds alarmist,but something is not quite right there.
Nyuk nyuk nyuk ....
Nucklehead = lier
Daniel, I never trust a liar. I don't mean little white lies like, "Do you like my new haircut?" Me: "Yes!" when I actually think it's an awful haircut! But a person who lies about their accomplishments, or education will probably lie about just about anything and absolutely can not be trusted...Just my opinion;)
The brainwashed left Gen z and millenials don't seem to care.
Vance scored a great win with women, especially Suburban women, Trump's achilles' heel. BRILLIANT>
https://jessicareedkraus.substack.com/p/women-across-america-just-fell-in
I hope she's right. I live in the middle of AWFL central and these women are insufferable (I say that as a woman). Some are STILL WEARING MASKS and have their Ukraine bling on display. I'm serious. And they have the whole "Free Library" stands in their yards and trans flags of support. And I'm in a pink (though rapidly going more blue) rural-suburban area. I just really hope the referenced Substacker is right.
Genuinely asking, what's wrong with the little 'take one, leave one' library stands? My kids love them.
Well my guess is that this is just another virtue signaling ploy, just like the 'In this house we believe...' signs I see as I am out knocking doors for the last 2-3 years. And given what we have learned is in our schools' libraries, what is in these little free library stands may not be wholesome.
If you say so, I believe it.
RFK did a live debate on X which was aired when Biden and Trump were onstage. It was awesome.
re: J.D. Vance won the debate because he is wicked smart, well-spoken, and was unburdened by the necessity of pretense.
What a magnificent performance from Vance, now clearly the future of the MAGA movement. And, for the record, who chose Vance????? Donald J. Trump!! Proving again what a master decision maker the man is.
Sort of. JD was amazing. But I heard the actual choice was Donald Trump Jr who picked him. DJT signed off on him. Obviously he has the final say. But if Jr hadn’t brought him up its doubtful he would be there. 💕
Trump Jr may have helped by providing input, but you are correct: Trump Sr had the final say. And he made the right decision, AGAIN!!
Vance was the perfect choice, someone who initially claimed Trump was awful, but completely had his mind changed by 4 years of Trump's beautiful America First presidency. Vance demonstrated the kind of statesmanship we are yearning for to be with Trump as they restore our country. Exceptionally proud of Trump and Vance.
yes, I completely agree with you. Initially he was against Trump (he didn't like his personality). I remember being disappointed by that and thinking it was short-sighted. In his book he covers why people from his town were drawn to Trump. Because they were forgotten and Trump was the first person to speak to them in decades. I do think JD finally realized though that even if Trump doesn't say or do everything perfectly, he does a LOT of things right. Our country was solid when he was in charge. I was feeling very safe and content with him as President and I pray for that feeling again.
Woke has gotten so hyper-Woke that much of the political and financial crowd, throw in commentators like Tucker and business people like Musk, now see a threat to their lives and property which has them horrified as to consequences to them. The persecutions in lawfare, the cancelling, the looting of assets, etc. makes switching sides just a good sense existential threat decision.
There is a dailing back movement in progress because there is a Reign of Terror going on and it is upsetting to a lot of people with wealth and position. Changing sides and narratives is now a matter of long term horizon survival.
I pray that you are right. We desperately need people with resources to wake up and start helping. I have thought for a long time the elites can't be stupid enough to think a middle class collapse would be good for them. Who wants to live in a dirty disgusting society where most people are living in extreme poverty while others live in their protected castles trying to avoid the dirty masses?
Has he ever addressed his former "never Trumper" self?
Yes, in last night's debate. He admitted falling for MSM propaganda and that he was wrong. The sign of an intelligent person is the ability and willingness to change their views based upon new information. That describes a lot of people including Tulsi Gabbard, RFK, Jr., Tucker Carlson, et al.
He did last night, did you watch the debate?
I wanted to post a question to the public - how many have flipped their political party, no matter which side. Very curious. Since 2016
LIFETIME DEM for over 50 yrs. NEVER AGAIN after Bernie's treatment by the Dems.
Wow. That's interesting. I didn't really appreciate how manipulated the nomination process in 2016 was until much later.
❤️
I "started to flip" during Clinton's term, when he couldn't be pinned down on the definition of "is". But then we had 8 years of W and Cheney, both of whom I hated. I voted for Obama the first time, but then immediately had regrets. I registered as "independent" thereafter. While I believe in a lot of Libertarian principles, they are experts at losing, and their current candidate is a piece of crap, undeserving of the label. As an independent voter, I get to keep them all guessing. I wish all of America would register that way - candidates would have to try harder.
Lifetime Republican for 50 yrs and have never missed voting in an election.
I was a democrat that voted as an independent for years, but before 2016 I knew I had nothing in common with the dems. Hillary made me sick. I always thought of her as a traitor and murderess. I had to get off that party.
Don Jr and JD are friends. But either way, it is refreshing to see President Trump listening more to Don Jr, then to Ivanka and Kushner. Kushner was good on the Abraham Accords but little else...
Kushner wants to sell beachfront condos in Gaza before all the bodies are uncovered.
Don Jr. is the smart one. Ivanka and Kushner not so much so.
Many picked him. Don Jr. Charlie Kirk and Tucker to name a few
No, they may have helped and provided insight, but DJT picked him.
Maybe so, but are Kirk and Tucker in the campaign?
Find the DJT jr interview with Russell Brand. Truly a thing to behold.
No, thanks, because my gut instinct is going off on Russell Brand. Just like with Candace Owens. My gut has never been wrong. May not see the truth for awhile so I take a step back approach. It always comes out.
You don’t know that.
People love to comment like they are in someone's inner circle when they are guessing or worshipping the ground someone walks on that they just KNOW the person. That is why when the Anti-Christ rises one day people will flock from both sides to worship him.
They already did.
Not sure who you are replying to but if its me, I do. DT Jr said it in an interview that he was the one who found him and said “we need someone like that on our team”
The apple does not fall far.....
I don’t understand the comment
JD’s intellect and communication skills were superior. Kinda like Ohio State playing Minneapolis Community College in Football. Beyond that salient point, the debater who has to lie about lies in order to score points, has little chance of winning.
"Beyond that salient point, the debater who has to lie about lies in order to score points, has little chance of winning."
Sadly, these are the types of critical thought-deprived useful idiots that the puppeteers need to advance their agenda. Like Biden and Harris, Walz does not appear to have the character or the intellectual capability to go "off-script".
They just want their word salad to go along with their ozempic, adderall and oat milk latte with extra tears and a unicorn flavored vape pen.
Crazy eyes 👁👁 indeed.
Libbies with TDS have those eyes. Talk about fear mongering! A libbie neighbor said she's moving out of the country if Trump gets elected. I said to her: "Try Haiti. And bring your cat and dog. They love pets."😄😉 I am so done with her and her ilk. Be gone useless idiot.
Or a lovely home on the Gaza Strip.
Good luck to her. We're the only country that allows any old nut job admission
And it is hard to find a country that US or Israel are not bombing.
Offer her recommendations for Realtors 😁
hysterical! if a little sick.
Cathy O'Brien says it's a sign of MK ULTRA mind control.
Have you seen his wife? She has even crazier eyes than him. I feel for their kids.
Remember, his wife waxes eloquently about keeping the windows open during the Floyd riots so she could enjoy the smell of destruction. These two are very strange people.
His wife really comes across as unhinged. Ugh!
Obuggerer and his masters must be gnawing there pillows at night watching their plans flushed by low IQ, DEI seat warmers in government.
I doubt it; they know how to cheat, have no morals or scruples and will do whatever it takes to steal an election.
Great article. I'll have to pay more attention to eye composition now !
Yuri that was awesome. lol
For whatever was written in earlier times was written for our instruction, so that through the perseverance and the encouragement of the Scriptures we might have hope. Now may the God of perseverance and encouragement grant you to be of the same mind with one another according to Christ Jesus, so that with one accord you may with one voice glorify the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
— Romans 15:4-6 LSB
Amen! Whatever comes to pass.
Vance 2028! Best debate performance in 21st century. The American people actually got to witness how calm, cool, well spoken and eloquent he was. And the media/dems were exposed for their constant vitriol about how he's "weird"....lolol...that's the best they have?!
The media bias in the debate was just as bad as the Trump/Harris debate. It wasn't as obvious because Vance maneuvered through it with ease.
You know it was a bad night for D's when all they can say is that VP debates are inconsequential.
It's almost as if one of the candidates has had to handle a lot of tough and unfair gotcha questions. And the other guy hasn't...
It was so bad, there's a solid chance Pelosi pays him a visit
❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ Cannot agree more.
I wished I got to watch the debate with someone. Vance was so impressive. And to think he said he was nervous 11/10. He showed NO signs he was nervous.
I have incredible respect for what he said his goals were with the debate. He said he wanted to focus a lot on policy. Explain things for the American people. And he was KIND and not berating or childish toward his opponents. He was respectful. Man, can a lot of us learn from him. (and I like Trump)
I can relate to many aspects of his upbringing; not the broken family part, which would have been another bridge seeming too far to cross for sure. Just the extreme poverty, the sense of always being in survival mode, the parents/caregivers being harsh with the children because it’s all they know, the struggle with low self esteem…
What J.D. Vance overcame to get to this place is miraculous.
When you don't have enough money to know that you will be able to pay for your home or put clothes on your kids, the stress that causes has downstream effects that people who haven't experienced it just can't understand. It's much worse than, say, the "I might lose my job" stress that most middle class or even working class people face.
And Vance overcame it with the system working against him as a white male.
Yes. I believe you have to experience it to understand. It has lifelong consequences, some of which can be steered in a positive direction. I know that more than most of my acquaintances, I don’t take anything for granted and I’m grateful for the simplest things. And I expect that which is worthwhile to be difficult to achieve.
Im glad you all are talking about this. I experienced some of it when my parents divorced and there was a ton of financial pain due to a lot of prejudice against women and divorcees at that time. the pain is transferred down to the children, of course, who are downstream.
All things are possible with God.
Reading Hillbilly Elegy was like reading my life story (maybe throw in a little of the Glass Castle). Sadly, there are many, many people living in similarly broken circumstances and the impact of someone on the national stage giving such eloquent voice to these struggles cannot be overstated.
I don't believe for one second that Kamala can relate to any person down on their luck or from a difficult background regardless of race. She is 100% phony and all affectation. And now we learn about her husband's treatment of a girlfriend in addition to his having an affair on his first wife with the family nanny and somehow these people are supposed to be the moral, upright paragons of society??
Agree 100%
Lisa, ..."kind and respectful." What a concept!
I used to speak locally in public. Some times I gave a very good account of myself, sometimes not so much so. And I learned that either people have a gift for standing up and holding forth ... or not. That is, there are naturals. And so, knowing what it takes as to preparedness, good organization of thought ... and guessing that Vance is relatively inexperienced in public speaking, I think JD pretty much knocked it out of the park. AND NO MAJOR ERRORS ... and that is huge.
JD looks to be a quick study. He is smart ... and he got 'noticed'. Vance is likely to only get much better ... and more formidble. A very impressive fellow. And we should not have been too surprises. That speech at the RNC was tight, also impressive. The man has got a future no matter what he does.
I watched it with the Jimmy Dore show, and Sabby Sabs, and Barry Cunningham. but I know what you mean, it would be so great to share with a LIke Minded human!
I texted my husband (traveling) but not the same. It was the best debate I have seen jn so long. ❤️
I know! I expected to be disgusted and dispirited but felt actually inspired!
Liz - what did Jimmy Dore think?
Mainstream media witch Margaret did fact check Vance a couple times and i was so proud of him for calling her out on it.
Then the only tactic they had left was to smirk and say “We have so much to get to” and cut him off when he was telling too much truth.
I was hopeful that it was going to be a good debate night, when JD took the time to introduce himself, and he got in there that he served in Iraq and laid out how he got to where he was and equated it to everyday real Americans. Brilliant. Three on one again, and he crushed it! Vance 2028!
I don’t disagree Vance’s debating style was good, but he missed the mark on a couple of issues. For instance child care tax credits do not help stay at home moms who elect to homeschool their children. The tax deduction for dependents does. That tax deduction has not kept up with the rate of inflation over the past decades. Vance should know and promote an increase in the tax deduction for dependents. Power over health issues are not among the limited enumerated powers granted to the federal government by the United States Constitution. That’s explicitly why abortion and health insurance policies belong with the individual states and people. Vance should have stated that. The only reason the Affordable Care Act survived in the Supreme Court is because Justice Roberts rewrote the law, an act he had no authority to do, and made it a tax. Vance and Trump need to return to and emphasize the basics limits of our federal government imposed upon it by our Constitution.
As far as John Roberts, I will ALWAYS believe the cabal has something on him and blackmail him with to get him to go psycho on the US Constitution.
I agree with that belief. Something is wrong with that man. And it was quite strange how others were jumped over, so he became Chief Justice right off the bat.
Not sure if they were real, but photos of him at Epstein Island were floating around Twitter 1-2 years ago
very likely
You are right on the tax credits. There is HUGE incentive for both parents to work. The tax code actually penalizes families who want to have the responsiblity and joy of raising their family and homeschooling their children.
Maybe for you. But not for the majority. My point still stands.
"misapprehend the situations applicable to "the majority??" You are talking about Millenials who are truly going to be the generation that leads us to our death. Millennials and snowflakes are also the morons who received degrees in English literature, philosophy, social work, women's studies and black people studies then expect to earn $100,000 the first year in a job and only do 50% of the work they are required to do. I work with one. I know. They are the cancer that will ultimately devour our country as they whine in their safe spaces and smoke weed when they don't get their way or told they did something wrong.
Whatever. I don't waste time on ridiculous arguments anymore. Just not interested in wasting my energy. Now back to work.
Agree. But I still thought it was a great performance given it was his first prime time debate.
Auspicious start imo. I expect big things for him over the next couple of decades.
All in good time. There’s a mountain of wrongness to be addressed. I think some catastrophic events may level it, because it seems like more than mere man can handle in a couple hundred years of struggle.
Honestly, part of the problem is the format. It's not a true debate and the moderators curate the questions to focus on their personal issues. I wish there was some other way to pose questions that really matter to the voter and not to Twitter/X.
They think he's weird, because he's "calm, cool, well-spoken, and eloquent." They're not, nor ever have been, any of those things, therefore, they are outside their norm and are considered "weird."
Yeah, I am wondering about that too. His position isn't consequential enough to cost the election though, so I doubt the Dems will remove him. I definitely agree with you about JD- he is a great debater. He has the advantage of having gone to law school though, so there is that.
Yeah but he also has the advantage of having a 20 point IQ lead.
oh definitely. I guess I wasn't comparing him to Walz so much (who is a buffoon). I was more comparing him to Trump, who I think unfairly gets ripped for not being this great debater. Well, he is an incredible businessman and he is diplomatic enough to keep worldwide peace, something which none of the previous presidents have ever tried to (or wanted to, since they're globalist war-mongers). But I am very glad that JD is as good of a debater as he is. We need that on our side. For some reason America likes smooth talking great debaters and always picks them over business savvy professionals who could actually balance the budget for a change.
Intelligence and knowledge should never be confused with wisdom, prudence and common sense. Vance made that point when talking of the “experts.”
it was an EXCELLENT POINT and good code for those who opposed the Vax and mandates. we didnt miss it
LOLOLOLOL!
Agree.
And yet what amazes me (even though it shouldn’t) is how my Kamala groupie partners think that Walz crushed it. I mean, even the moderator wouldn’t let him skate around his latest mendacity about Tienanmen, he got owned by JD on the immigration/housing price issue, and my Blue Bubble coworkers think Tim is the Man.
We are two nations. And I can’t wait to relocate to Red country.
I with Vance wasn't a race traitor.
His swing over to Hinduism is such a globalist move.
He is not Hindu. His wife is.
Stop it. He's a Catholic, actually and a pretty recent convert if I'm not mistaken.
that's crazy talk. I dont usually hear nutcase rhetoric from you, FL man.
Hinduism? Is that the case?
He was confirmed into Roman Catholicism in 2019. There’re articles and interviews online. His wife is Hindu and he has talked about accepting many of her practices like becoming a vegetarian. He has not said that he has become a Hindu.
Thank you. I didn't read all of the comments before responding to BFM.
His wife is Hindu. J.D. Vance is a Catholic Convert, as am I. Interesting, given the similarities in our upbringing.
He is respectful of his wife’s beliefs, as we all should be.
Thank goodness Tim Walz is standing up for the school shooters.
It's not them, it's the guns.
Problem solved!
To be fair, we all know he meant to say he was friends with victims of school shooters. I don’t want to be like the MSM who takes a clunky explanation from Trump and runs with a deliberate misinterpretation of it forever. But still…. What a thing to have a gaffe about. Yikes.
I'm not so sure it was a gaffe. I think he said what he meant. The way I look at it is the shooters possess the mental illness and the mental illness is what he has compassion for.
I hope you are correct, that it was a gaffe. I shudder to think someone would defend shooters over embracing their victims.
If someone tells you who they are, believe them.
Fits this case to a t.
I interpret his statement as the school shooters aren’t inherently violent; rather it’s the mental distress and all the guns around that flip them over the edge. He’s making THEM into victims! Classic leftist lunatic embracing of victimhood.
And who is perpetrating their mental illness but Walz himself with his insidious policies welcoming trans kids hauled across state lines by anyone sympathetic to their insanity so they can be affirmed, drugged, and diced up without their parents knowledge.
Check it on Megyn Kelly
https://youtu.be/gQ5TAAY6EQo?
@Coral Kenagy: I think you are 100% correct. The more we read the transcript of what he said, the more it was clear, he meant what he said. It was not about the parents and the victims that he met in his office; it was about the shooters and the stigmatism of mental illness. Then he blamed the guns, like all 'good' commies.
Yes. His words in full context make sense. I don’t believe it was a mistake.
I thought he meant it too. He was talking about mental illness and I thought he was saying he knew these shooters were okay and he had known them personally.
It's all about JOY!
The left always favors the criminals over the victims. That is nothing new.
I would like to see Walz do an interview with Robbie Parker or even one of the other actors who just happen to move to town before the mass casualty event. I think it would be very (bug) eye opening!
Just give him a moment to stop laughing and 'get into character'.
And for pointing that out, Alex Jones got fined one billion dollars.
Interesting!
I find that case and that award to be very baffling for many reasons.
How can they prove that anyone suffered any harm from something said
on Alex Jones' show? Were they watching his show and became traumatized?
Even if Alex Jones had negligently killed their children himself,
there would not likely be such an astronomical payout.
Although a lot of material has been censored and scrubbed from
the internet, there were books, videos, and websites with very convincing
evidence that 'Sandy Hoax' was a FEMA drill and nobody died, like at the Boston Marathon 'Bombing'. I believe Jones could have easily proven
his case in a real court trial.
So, either he was threatened with severe harm to himself or family
and caved. Or, he is a player in the ongoing psyop they are using
strip away our Constitutional rights.
If we are very lucky, we might get to see him grinning in the back of a limousine
Or better yet a hearse
Words matter! He did say he was friends with school shooters and he didn’t correct or clarify it! I think he was trying to justify their shootings because they’re mentally ill.
Honestly, No we don’t know what he meant to say. Just like his being proud of his service in riding his bike around as a youth.
LOL
Hahahaha. Thought I was the only one that heard that …..
And he didn't even hear himself say it--he could have said "Excuse me, I meant friends with victims of...."--he did this in another response
Disagree! He meant school shooters to augment his stance that school shooters have mental health issues & should be treated as victims with kindness, understanding & impunity. This is the same way he treats any violent offender. I live in the formerly great state of Minnesota & know the damage this Pillsbury dough boy has done.
Fair point. How many school shooters are even still alive for him to be friends with?
I’m just coming from a point of view that we know Trump never said to inject bleach to cure Covid. Also, there are many more things he said that were worse that we should be focusing on. Just my perspective. But I appreciate yours as well.
Thanks for brining this up. It created a lot of discussion! You are right and we should always look at the raw uncut statements on both sides for full context. In this case, his words in full context make complete logical sense so I’m inclined to take him at his word.
How does one know what he meant?
Trump's remark to Biden is appropriate here: "I don't understand what he just said, and I don't think he does, either."
DJT, the King of Zingers. “Biden became mentally impaired . . . Kamala was born that way.”
Although watching some of FJB's earlier senate years, one could credibly make the argument that he was also born that way... not the sharpest knife in the drawer, which has only gotten worse since his dementia onset in 2019. Insane that 'they' selected him in 2020 as the Resident.
Credibly so!
Good point. We can try to infer what he means based on what he’s done. Same goes for Harris and Trump. Vance is the only top-ticketer who can speak clearly. One out four is pretty good for 21st century politicians.
Exactly. Should Harris be elected it does become important… how can Walz be expected to negotiate?
In full context he followed with the mental health aspect which makes sense paired with school shooters. The full statement was logical and didn’t seem like a mistake. Nothing is taken out of context.
I wasn’t sure what he was trying to say. I was shocked listening to it in real time. But he just blithely went on spinning yarns. Who would intentionally tell on themselves like that?
The difference between gaffs is that Trump’s “gaffs” are crafted by the left by re-ordering his statements or deleting key phrases he said to change the meaning, always taking him completely out of context. Walz on the other hand makes true gaffs without the help of us in anyway. It’s almost as if they reflect the jumbled narrative mess that’s been crammed into his head. Like when he called Kamala a great prostitioner. We didn’t change a word. Yes we know what he meant, but he’s also aware in his own head of the very real and true allegations of her sleeping her way to the top. He could have meant the school shooter either way and it makes sense in either context, but the jumbled mess of propaganda comes through subconsciously with the words one chooses. That’s why it’s better to deal in truth alone because that never happens. LOL. His gaffs matter very much. They are a window to the corrupt narrative.
It’s not me letting myself become 14 pounds overweight. It’s that cellophane that witch, Little Debbie wraps her goods in.
Little Debbie has sanpaku eyes. Google it.
Webster the Drake's Cakes Duck displays a look of lunacy as well, to be honest.
https://popicon.life/how-webster-the-duck-became-the-face-of-drakes-cakes/
Pretty much all the Muppets, too. They’re probably ALL morally compromised.
Sometimes it's just the cupcakes!!!
And other times it’s the gender dysmorphia, the psyche meds and a squad of adult handlers….
Of course there are times when it is simply a media event and there are zero dead people. One example would be the Buffalo supermarket event, which for posterities sake is captured on film.
LOL!!!
What’s next - School Shooter’s Rights
Only if they are non-binary.
A bullied kid will seek whatever shelter can be found.
If that shelter is in the only identity that is defended without question, that is what he will seek.
And that identity is that of one having an unnatural sexual identity. They are being herded into that one class where they believe they are sure to find protection.
An identity in Jesus Christ is the only answer to one who does not know that they can have peace that surpasses all understanding.
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Those damn guns are really crazy when they take antidepressants!
Now that I read it all again, I wonder if he meant the shooter parents. He didn’t specify and then followed up with the shooter. So maybe he wasn’t even talking about the parents of victims?
He needs to be asked about this.
Read my reply just above. 😊
I live near Asheville, and what we’re hearing from rescue personnel is a death toll rivaling Katrina’s. The official number is a joke.
It's sadly ironic that during the "pandemic", the MSM had the "death toll" running ticker.
And yet, they can't accurately report on the death toll from Helene.
They could, but they won't.
Mountain conservatives do not rate MSM sympathy.
Hard words, but truth.
Good point.
The Boston Globe still runs new covid death totals at least weekly.
It’s Maui 2.0
How long until a pattern of selective incompetence is recognized for what it is: Sabotage and treason?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13236011/amp/Global-AI-chip-demand-quartz-mines-North-Carolina.html
Remember what they did in Lahina? No photos of the victims on MSM.. No coverage of vigils held for the victims with professional photos, flowers and teddy bears. No report on the missing children. $700 and a few "Haiti-style" fundraisers, then shove it under the rug. It won't get the coverage unless Trump wins. Then, it's his fault.
And the death toll was much higher than reported. They made the "missing" list go away and never did a census based on people who lived in the area beforehand. It's my understanding that the official figure of 102 is based on bodies/remains that have been matched to specific people.
Absolutely heartbreaking.
I'm so sorry. That's awful.
One of the BEST points Vance made last night was that if Trump is back in office Americans suffering from disasters will come first again. That needed to be said and I’m so glad he did.
ITS INSANE that there is not more attention being focused on this. its a MONUMENTAL TRAGEDY. I hear there are bodies in the trees, in the rivers, tons of them, so many have not been recovered yet.
People on mtn tops yelling for help, out of food, out of water, NOBODY has water. and HELICOPTERS ON THE GROUND THAT HAVE NOT BEEN CLEARED TO FLY TO GO GET SURVIVORS.
ALSO SOME CRAZY officials (local? ( threatening to ARREST first responders out there rescuing people. there is WAY MORE GOING ON HERE than meets the eye.
the Lithium deposit (huge) is definitely part of it . and so is GEOENGINEERING.
And we hear nothing about it on the news. They just crucified Bush for months.
You’re right, Martin, I’m sure the official numbers are far superior to those coming from S&R with boots on the ground. What was I thinking.
So these rescue personnel are telling you that there’s more dead bodies than are being reported and they believe that and all they’re doing is telling locals like yourself and not involving anybody official who could look into it?
All those missing people are going to have to be accounted for in someway just due to neighbors and relatives looking for them.
Actually, all they are doing is digging bodies out of the mud at this point. The stories are being shared at least, but triage comes before contacting local officials. Also, we have search and rescue folks from all over the country, so they aren’t contacting officials, just doing their jobs.
Well you don’t just take up a dead body and throw it off to the side and move on. It’s a big deal and police or fire rescue or coroner or fill in the blank are always notified.
Time to break out those "School Shooters for Harris/Walz" yard signs..
Lolol
You win!
Re Walz statement about most gun violence being child suicides with firearms… maybe the root cause of that isn’t the gun, but the public schools teaching gender confusion and racialism/oppression. By “maybe”, I mean “for sure”.
@Carrie: Much more likely!!! I can speculate too, that school shootings only started happening since they started drugging the kids (and adults) with Big Pharma behavior "anti-depression medicines" in the 90's... Coincidence? I don't think so... Purposefully to create their "mental health" crisis and condition the population to incrementally allow further erosion of our 2A enumerated God given rights.
“Behold, He who keeps Israel Shall neither slumber nor sleep.”
Psalms 121:4 NKJV
https://bible.com/bible/114/psa.121.4.NKJV
Watched every minute of the VP debate and came away very impressed with Vance. Walz is clearly unhinged, but was trying desperately to appear normal. The self-professed friend of school shooters actually said sometimes it's just the guns. We certainly can't pin the blame on those mentally unbalanced individuals toting the guns, can we?!?! He flat out lied throughout the debate and was propped up most of the time by the obviously biased moderators, who consistently referred to Vance's comments as "allegations." If only we had a fair media...sigh.
And why won’t anyone bring up the fact that almost all the “school shooters” were on Big Pharma pills with “crazy” side effects?!🤦♀️🤷🏻♀️it’s not the guns!☕️
Paging RFK Jr.... A campaign topic he should raise.
RFK has already raised the issue insofar as he's called for testing shooters' blood to determine what drugs were in their systems.
Just investigate their connections to the FBI or CIA.
They are nearly all operatives or patsies.
Yep noticed that. Vance is slightly right of a normiecon so such things don't get mentioned.
Nailed it 🎯 !
Hubby and I watched this debate mainly to see Vance as I have listened to him do several interviews, two with Tucker that were very good. He didn’t become ruffled, he answered smoothly, not taking the bait, and getting points across without going deeply into the weeds. Do I think it changed anything? No. Most people didn’t watch because they consider the VP only window dressing. Walz tried to come on as folksy, Midwestern, but those of us who know him, know he’s anything but…
Yes
Is about the pandemic of fear, I rewrote the lyrics to the Eagles Hotel California And called it Welcome to the Hotel Paranoia:
...
HOTEL PARANOIA
On the great reset highway, fools’ words in my ear
Warm smell of infection, rising up through the fear
Up ahead in the future, I saw a frightening sight
My health grew heavy and my rights grew dim
I got locked down for the night
“Show passports at the doorway,”
I heard the armed guards tell
And I was thinking to myself,
“This could be Heaven or this could be Hell”
Then they brought out the needles and they boosted away
There were voices from the monitor,
I thought I heard them say…
Welcome to the Hotel Paranoia
Such an ugly place (Such an ugly place)
So just mask your face
Plenty of doom at the Hotel Paranoia
Any kind of fear (Any kind of fear)
You can find it here
The news is definitely twisted toward propagandic ends
They got a lot of pretty newsman boys they call friends
How they lie in the courthouse, hyping the threat.
Some lie to remember, some lie to forget
So I called up the doctor,
“Please help me feel fine”
He said, “We haven’t showed that spirit here since nineteen twenty nine”
And so our choice is falling so far away,
Taken out in the middle of the night
Then you hear them say…
Welcome to the Hotel Paranoia
Such an ugly place (Such an ugly place)
So just mask your face
The living will die at the Hotel Paranoia
What a big surprise (not a nice surprise)
Right before your eyes.
Fear’s up to the ceiling,
They keep vaccine on ice
“Sure,” we said, “we are all just listeners here, on our own device”
And in Big Pharma’s boardrooms,
They gathered for the feast
They profit from our sickly lives
And they just can’t care the least
Last thing I remember, I was
Lying on the floor
I couldn’t get the message back
To the way it was before
“React,” said the fright man,
“We are programmed to deceive.
You can fact check any time you like,
But you will not believe.”
... Lyrics video can be found here:
https://vimeo.com/661691627/3a607e4dd1
👏👏👏
Brilliant!! I actually read it to the melody ❤️ Good work
Outstanding!
That was AWESOME!!!!
That is awesome.
Tim Walz always looks terrified.
Someone must have a whole lotta dirt on him, b/c the FEAR in those eyes just screams.
Demons.
yes Janice. that's what I see also.
Yes! 100%!
Kamala too. All of them.
I noticed that frightened appearance as well. The contrast between Vance and Walz couldn't have been greater.
At times he looked like a confused Biden
There was a post on reddit that showed a previous Tim Walz and the new one, and that look of abject terror/deer-in-the-headlights wasn't there in the old photo. The decline is 'interesting' (I guess is the word? Depressing?) to watch.
TBH, the look on Walz face makes me deeply sad, and I have to talk sense into myself and remember his lockdown policies were just as bad as Newscums. NO SYMPATHY.
It’s the effects severe TDS has on so many. It changes them from the inside so completely. My faith in Trump hasn’t changed me one bit because Trump ALLOWS me to deal in truth, so it never taxes my brain
Totally agree. No sympathy.
Is anyone else kind of bummed that Walz looks like Don Rickles (mostly from a profile angle)? I liked Don Rickles...
Haha Don Rickles. He would never be allowed on stage in today's environment..... cancelled for sure.
Someone else said Fred Mertz 😆
LOL!
I thought Vance was masterful in the debate and particularly loved it when he challenged the moderators for fact checking him erroneously.
Walz came across as genuine but way out of his league. Like a guy at work who’s in middle management but is ‘retired in place’ because he can’t really accomplish anything, but he’s not so horrible he needs to be fired.
Did you catch that margaret chick condescendingly saying “thanks for the legal lesson” to Vance when he challenged the status of illegals? That was embarrassing for her!
And she had to keep saying it, too, like, "Did everyone get my dis? How clever I just was?"
Yes! My gosh she was horrible!
She was an embarrassment to all women.
I might have to change my gender. 🤣😉
https://substack.com/@euphoricrecall/note/c-71056355?r=197q5u&utm_medium=ios&utm_source=notes-share-action
Walz loves the baby killing.
Walz is more of a Marxist than Harris. He’s been to China 20 times, he got an abortion bill pushed through that allows for partial birth abortions, unlicensed doctors performing abortions, gender mutilation on minors without parental consent or knowledge, and more. Abortions are NOT women’s health. Michigan has almost the same heinous amendment, word for word, and I imagine there are more states with the exact same .
His folksy manner is a mask for evil, and people outside of Minneapolis and the medical corridor hate him.
And child mutilation!!
And CHINAHHHH
Didn't Walz go to Chi-na for his honeymoon with his wife and and some other people. Strange it never crossed my mind to invite my friends or anyone else along on our honeymoon (not to China.)
Peter Principle.
Walz came across as a governorship being his ceiling despite all his trips to China trying to broaden his worldview about governance.
Oh, that wasn’t meant to express how I feel about his leadership. It was just part of my analogy.
If you spend time looking closer at what he has done in MN, you’ll start to change thinking he’s “not so horrible”
Here is one example of Tim Walz's "leadership." Watch the video of Walz's stooges peppering residents in a Minnesota neighborhood with paintballs. How dare they be out on their porches when he had a curfew in place.
https://nypost.com/2024/08/13/us-news/cops-enforcing-tim-walzs-curfew-shot-residents-with-paintballs-video/
Insanity. That is almost as bad as Australia or Canada.
Worth considering:
"Last year, the Department of Defense entered a ninety-million-dollar agreement with Albemarle Corporation to increase domestic production of lithium for the nation's battery supply chain. Specifically, from Kings Mountain, North Carolina starting by 2025.
This is the same area experiencing what is being described as biblical floods."
https://gregreese.substack.com/p/how-to-steer-hurricanes-flood-homes
And this:
https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurricane-helene-and-frequency-transmissions-90-second-alert/
Moving people away from “treasure” just like in Maui.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-13236011/amp/Global-AI-chip-demand-quartz-mines-North-Carolina.html
This story informs us about a more significant problem post-Helene in NC. Some years ago a person in a top-floor office at IBM HQ confirmed the existence of this crystal mine, and the critical importance of the crystals: https://www.theverge.com/2024/9/30/24258333/hurricane-helene-quartz-chip-mining-north-carolina-spruce-pine
Always follow the love of money. It leads to all kinds of pure evil.
Somewhere in their playbook is a checklist item: Deactivate Teslas and then mine their batteries to power their robots.
😳
I’m tired of “science” using natural disasters as an opportunity to push regulation.
In the CNN article Jeff links to:
“Scientists found climate change, primarily caused by fossil fuel pollution, exacerbated the severity of Helene. The new findings align with previous scientific research, which has shown that storms are intensifying more quickly and producing more rainfall.”
Man that's funny. The side that refuses to accept the idea of causation (it's only ever "correlation" when death follows vax) so easily claims causation in this area: "caused by fossil fuel ".
The Global Warming hoax is out in full force. But Jeff's explanation of the volcano is compelling. Here in Maryland, I've never seen such humidity this time of year.
As usual Trump is right- it is a hoax and wish JD had said so
He was very diplomatic and logical; instead pointing out if you DO support the climate change narrative then the current administration’s policies are often contrary to reducing carbon emissions.
Yes I thought Vance's reply was very politically astute considering the debate audience.
“out in full force”—do you suppose that “they” are tacitly admitting that we are now “over the target” (with apology for three quotations). Here in SE Pa, returned from a week away in early September to discover that all fruit from 4 apple, 3 pear trees of 35 years age had lost their fruit. Not one fruit remained. Can squirrels be so thirsty (we’d not had any rain at that point for 4 weeks)? And husband has been decreasing their population for a few decades. Deer cannot pick fruit 15’ off the ground….
Our fruit fell 3 weeks early. Ornamental flowering crab trees, which were loaded with blossoms in May, had lost every leaf by mid August. Lilacs are reblooming with no leaves on them. Trees are going into early leaf drop. I don’t remember having seen this happen before.
Thank you—I didn’t want to ramble beyond the mysterious fruit drop, but those 35 year old fruit trees are also defoliating. Mature black walnuts (always last to leaf out, first to drop) are dropping their fruit, which is not really too early, but husband points out the fruit are abnormally small. We have lived on this property since ‘87; we are familiar (all too much so) with our walnuts. The summer of ‘95 had a far worse drought; when we walked on the grass, the blades broke off: we had bare soil.
Same here in SW Pennsylvania.
No way to identify trends so fast using actual data.
According to search results, earth is estimated to be 4.5 billion years old. My calculated won’t even go that high.
50 years of technology to take a few measurements is a tiny snippet of time. That sample size is hilariously unscientific. Only fools would make critical decisions based on such small sampling.
My own company can’t coordinate and manage data predictively within its small scope. The scope of weather is unthinkable with so many variables.
They extrapolate linearly using manipulated data points that are far FAR too close together.
Climate Change = Geo Engineering
This is a must see : https://www.geoengineeringwatch.org/hurricane-helene-and-frequency-transmissions-90-second-alert/
They didn't used to call them "findings" if they were based on manipulated data and made-for-purpose models.