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Next on Short Attention Span Theater…A few months ago I ordered an exorbitantly priced Medical Emergency Kit from the “good guys” (McCullough, Dr. Drew, Harvey Risch et al.) at The Wellness Company. (My hatred for doctor visits circumvented all - well, most - price considerations).To serve as a reminder that propaganda can be employed with equal effectiveness regardless of the source, I have been getting peppered with daily fear-inducing email information about every malady known to mankind and the pills and potions they are pushing. This morning’s disease du jour and anxiety driven headline: “Flu Cases Surge Across 45 States.”....followed by: “Across the country, flu activity has surged in 45 states, with doctor visits for flu-like illness reaching their highest level in more than 30 years, according to NBC News.” and…."Nationwide, the toll is already severe. About 5,000 people have died from the flu so far this season, including children. ”When cases surge this quickly, access becomes the bottleneck. Clinics fill up. Pharmacies run low. What should be a simple prescription turns into a scramble. Be ready before symptoms decide for you. Get your Contagion Emergency Kit today."

Ivermectin

Hydroxychloroquine

Azithromycin (generic Z-Pak™)

Oseltamivir (generic Tamiflu™)

Budesonide (generic Pulmicort™)

Nebulizer

$325.

First, Am I missing something? I’ve been under the impression that Ivermectin costs pennies. In addition, I'm certain it was revealed that Tamiflu (purported to lessen the severity and duration of a flu) was uncovered as another gigantic lie.

Oh, and in case you're interested, you can get 30 Capsules of an appetite suppressant called "Appetite" for $80 and 60 capsules of something called "Longevity" for about $100.

Anywho, I get these emails daily. The fear mongering is alive and well. Advertising is propaganda. Propaganda is advertising. What can you say?....it moves product. Everyone's gotta make hay. "Don't take the cheese."

This isn't a personal shot at any one individual, just optics on the system.

Dr. Simone Gold's "GoldCare" is basically the same thing. I'll never talk bad about her either.

https://www.goldcare.com/about

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

They’re even selling their own weight loss products! Capitalism has its dark side too. I am disappointed insofar as The Wellness Company isn’t backing whole foods, exercise, and sunshine.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

No money there. I'm sure they've mentioned it, but I've sort of tuned them out.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Instead of selling drugs, why not reinvent themselves as naturopathic, or homeopathic, or integrative medicine physicians. Btw, if you haven’t read Dr. Kory’s new book on Chlorine dioxide, it’s invaluable. I just cured a nasty infection using it and DMSO for pennies and without seeing a doctor.

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Laureen's avatar

Mary Ann, does Dr. Kory's book give protocols and does for the Chlorine Dioxide?

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

YES. Towards the end of the book.

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Maha's avatar

Dr. Kory is as ethical as it gets. He is now distributing a polysulfated mineral additive to purify water. It is on the level, but he is practically apologizing about running it as a business. It is, like Vitamin D, one of the true ways of controlling health from upstream sources.

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

I have use Chlorine Dioxide for about 20 years. I has it's uses and I keep on hand.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

And for what maladies do you use Chlorine Dioxide, Mary Pat? I'm "all in" with holistic/integrative medical modalities!! I've shared, on this forum several times, the path my second hubby and I took when he was diagnosed with a form of salivary duct cancer that had ZERO positive treatment options in the USA and only a 6 month life span in European countries.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Gotta ask: how did you find out about it 20 years ago? Amazing!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Ordered from Jenna, haven’t gotten it yet 🤷‍♀️

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Janet's avatar

I did too. It’s supposed to arrive sometime in January. Still a lot of January left.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Very true, January is always a strange month to me, for one thing I always have to worry about those New Years resolutioneers clogging up the gym parking lot, lol! 😂

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Mike's avatar
6hEdited

Who is carrying this book, having trouble finding it

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Jenna McCarthy on substack, she co-authored it.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

You can click on the image of the book at the bottom of her Substack post. That will take you to the publisher.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

It’s just being sent out.

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God Bless America's avatar

Darn… I have too many books to read now, but I would love that one as well. Do you have a name or link for Dr. Cory‘s book on chlorine dioxide?

Ben Fen is also coming out with a book in February about fenbendazole… I want that one also. I need to speed up my reading. 🤔

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Where do you buy DMSO and Chlorine Dioxide? What are the uses and dosages?

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Silent scorn's avatar

DMSO pharmaceutical grade is on Amazon! So is chlorine dioxide. Chlorine dioxide is widely used for water purification in food processing. It breaks down into carbon and oxygen as it kills bacteria in water.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Also DMSO.store

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m&m's avatar

Or Nature's Gift for DMSO. Recommended by Midwestern Doctor. I use the liquid and the gel.

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LiveDreamRepeat's avatar

Thank you for this!! I leaned about DMSO a few years ago and it sounded excellent but it was a random video on the Internet and I just didn't know how much I could trust the source. Dr Kory over recent years has been above reproach in the health realm so I'm very much looking forward to reading his book!!

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Lone Star exile's avatar

My goodness, I asked Google AI about Chlorine dioxide, and it went ballistic on how dangerous it is to ingest, etc. Maybe as a 30-60 second mouthwas for bad breath, but that's all.

May I ask how you took it for your infection? My question really triggered poor AI...

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m&m's avatar

There are groups on Facebook that discuss this or Dr. Kory has on Substack. Also book by Andreas Klacker, Forbidden Health talks all about it and has protocols for different situations.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Kinda saw these grifters back early on. Sorry, but they are.

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Elaine H's avatar

I don’t know if I call them grifters. You get real medicine, human grade. If you had to order from a telepathic doctor and then from a compounding pharmacy you would pay that much or more.

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Francis Keays's avatar

I have livestock and dogs that I use Fenbendazole (Safeguard brand for goats and cattle) as a wormer for. It used to be not too expensive. Then there was talk about it being used for cancer treatment. The price sky rocketed. I am not too happy about that. Same for Ivermectin for animals. Used to be reasonably priced. Not any more.

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rolandttg's avatar

Wife used Fenben for her breast cancer (Safeguard) and she swears it had more effect than anything she did. Buys Fenben now from Happy healer .com, that is cheaper the Safeguard, but I don't know if that helps you with your animals. Take a look at their site. Various dosages available

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Janet's avatar

My hubby is using FENBENDAZOLE and IVM for bladder cancer. Just got his second “in remission” report. I take IVM 12mg tablet once a week prophylactic. We order it through Second Smartest Guy in the world substack. We have had no problems with the supplier. Quick and worth the money in our case. We do get Fenben from an other place—BP Life.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Website is for sale. Nothing there.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

If you buy those products from the Second Smartest Guy in the World on Substack, they are sold with discounts, usually 10% and sometimes 10 or 15% off. Discounts are not just for first time customers.

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Elaine H's avatar

Curious - who is the first smartest guy in the world?

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NofloChick's avatar

Yep, that's who I buy from. He's also got a good Substack which I encourage everyone to read.

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Waiting for my book-it’s in the mail……

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Kory is busy identifying the cause of death for Ms. Good like he did for George Floyd and the crisis actors

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Bandit's avatar

😂🤣

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JasonT's avatar

Yeah, but unlike socialism, there is no gun at your head demanding you take the pills.

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c Anderson's avatar

There are people who want a pill for everything and don’t have the ability or situation to make a lifestyle change. Supplements are a leg up for a healthier life. “Dark side to Capitalism” is a socialist’s explanation of why choice is an evil. 👿 America is a land of choice. Let people decide their own pathway.

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rolandttg's avatar

Anyone who takes Ozempic or the like to stop being fat is a moron. That's not how it works. Sadly, very sadly. , taking SSRI's and benzodiazepines for depressionis not any smarter, just more forgivable. Sorry, I know there a few on this site that swear by them, but I don't buy it.

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Rob D's avatar

Yeah, I remember when people learned to *deal* with problems instead of putting their brain on hold. If these poisons would have been available and popped like candy 250 years ago, we wouldn't have had an America. My grandparents and great grandparents wouldn't have made it through the great depression. Hell, I wouldn't have made it through the things I have conquered in my life. Learning to rule your mind instead of being ruled by it takes WORK and it doesn't hurt to have experienced people to talk to like parents (that HAVEN'T taken SSRIs), GOOD pastors and GOOD counselors that don't pull out the script pad as soon as you walk in. Again... people just want to live however they want and take a pill or a shot for everything. Nah... life is hard. It requires eating right, exercising, and THINKING about good, bad, and ugly stuff and how to overcome it. We are done as a country. The most drugged, overweight, sickest (mentally, physically, and spiritually) populace in world history. There's no pill for what we need to do to get our (bleeper) together.

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rolandttg's avatar

Truer words were never spoken. Reading the excellent Molly Englehart's book "Debunked by Nature". quick read. She was a former die hard vegan 'tard, who owned several restaurants . Then she who married a Mexican from a REAL small town and moved to the country. Found out what life, and death, is all about, and is now a total convert. No such thing as eating anything without something else dying. She says life is supposed to be a challenge, and hard . She also went fro saying "I don't need a man", to "I really need a real man". Somewhere between 15-20 % of Americans are on antidepressants. Mind boggling. . Killed our only child. As she said repeatedly at the end, "it broke my brain".

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Suzanne's avatar

I'm so sorry Roland. My son, by God's grace is still with us. He was put on a small dose of ativan in high school and it led to horrors. Benzos, street drugs, all of it. He almost died several times. He had to come off everything cold turkey and he ended up with a tbi but is totally drug and prescription free for the last 10 years. He paid a price with some short term memory loss but for the most part we have our son back. He lifts heavy weights now and watches his diet, (meat heavy) and uses supplements. If only more people knew.

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Matt L.'s avatar

I’m waiting for the study showing link between use of GPL-1’s and subsequent increase in SSRI’s by same patient. GPL-1’s cause paralysis of stomach (gastroparesis) and therefore slowing of digestion. 90% to 95% of the body's serotonin is produced in the gut, primarily by enterochromaffin cells in the digestive tract. If one’s body slows the production of serotonin, logic says this would have negative impact to regulating mood, happiness, calmness, sleep, memory and social behavior. To combat that, up the dosage of existing SSRI’s patient is on, or get a new SSRI subscription. The biological dots are not too far apart to connect. We just haven’t had enough ‘time’ to gauge results?

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Just a Clinician's avatar

And several SSRIs increase appetite...

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rolandttg's avatar

I far prefer to ban all of them.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Whatever the negatives for the weight loss drugs are; I hope Hillary and Whoopi get them full force!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

The magic pill....everyone wants one.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

When I called it “dark side,” I meant that their business model is not all that different from Big Pharma’s. Yes it’s a choice, but we need a different approach to medicine than buying drugs made from manmade molecules.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I think "Big Pharma's" model was quite more devious. First capture the "health" agencies and then pay them to do your bidding, ultimately use them and gov power to create "standards of care", then force people to take their poisons as we saw with Fraudci and his whole crew. Both get rich while Americans are killed and our power and wealth transferred to them.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes.

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Xen's avatar

Trump IS doing it (all) with a velvet glove, and in such a way that it is not arousing alarm amongst those who would see themselves as having “higher sensibilities” (cough ahem boomers & millenials), and are still in the dark about the “WW2 thing”, but Trump is definitely pro Hitler. And that is a very, very good thing! Anyone who knows history knows that that's basically what's being said here without saying “it”. So I'll be the one to say it 😏

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

You are certifiably wrong. Or maybe a lib. Or both , since libs are projecting onto Trump their own psychological problems.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Xen is another MAGA divider, just showing up to attempt to do whatever harm he/she/it can to the MAGA movement. Claims he/she/it loves hitler is all you need to discredit the cretin. Then to make the claim that President Trump is pro-Hitler.

Trump is resetting the entire world order which was concocted by the brits, first in bretton woods and then in 1971. I wont provide the details because there are two excellent posts which everyone should take the time to view:

a. Please, I strongly urge everyone view Ms Susan Kokinda, Promethean Action (about 14 minutes in length):

https://www.prometheanaction.com/the-saturday-wrap-up-trump-vs-davos-delivering-the-terms-of-surrender-january-10-2026/

b. Then please also view BG Blayne Holt, US Army Retired, explaining Trump's reset of the world:

https://forbiddennews.substack.com/p/general-blaine-holt-discusses-maduro

And finally, just mute, or block, Xenidiot, do not waste your time responding to this fool.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Thanks for letting me know about “Xenidiot”. I have not seen that name on C&C before. I’ll mute as you recommend. I love Promethium Action and am subscribed. All MAGA should be.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Yes, indeed, ALL MAGA should be. I'm glad you are.

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jan's avatar

Muting someone because you happen to disagree with them (right now) is censorship and a violation of free speech, albeit only for those doing the muting. I'm framing it this way to urge you to reconsider your thoughtless idea - similar to the leftist hypocrisy btw. Everyone has a right to their opinion and to express it. Don't be a hypocrite.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Muting is my choice to not have to deal with nonsense like that spewed from xenidiot. I can offer that choice to others. They can choose to make, or not make, that choice. Your framing is nonsense.

They can express their opinon, I can block or mute their opinion, especially when it is ridiculous as xen and yours. You are about to be muted. Have a good day.

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Xen's avatar

The fact that people are going to sit here and like your comment means there's still much work to do to wake people up. You guys are the reason that we're still in the situation because you're so slow that you can't figure out what's actually going on. It's a shame because you're on coffee and covid I would hope that you are of a higher caliber of knowledge and information but apparently not.

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Xen's avatar

How can I be a lib when I love Hitler? And I also love Trump? Voted for the man thrice, despite knowing better about what voting is.

Also, you might want to study geopolitics & real news and history a little bit more, not what the schlop that was taught to you in school that you are likely indoctrinated with ...there's A LOT more to the story. You must use primary sources, pattern recognition and critical thinking. Check out Mike King's real news and history, very well sourced information.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Read the history of the Nazi movement whose agenda was not all that different from our own American leftist progressives. Nazism did not arise out of conservativism. German Nazism arose from liberal impulses: mandatory hygiene and medical care, disarming the population, anti semitism ( not unlike the antisemitism that has swept the libs in the US in the last few years). It’s a much longer and more detailed account than I can put down here,. Oh, and fyi, I am a professor of history. I am all about using primary sources, triangulating them, critical thinking, and dot connecting, and finally letting the evidence shape my conclusions. You’re welcome.

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Xen's avatar

That explains it, professor of history. The academics have a very difficult time overcoming the false narratives they have read and been taught. Strong indoctrination. And pride, which is a major mental block.

If you want to be free, and make up your own mind --not what you were brainwashed with, you need to look at every single one of the sources that you ever used as part of your "education" and see who wrote it, who funded it, and what their agenda was. Then, in the spirit of objectivity & fairness, find "alternate" sources of history that maybe you never have, and weigh it out. You will see for yourself. Unless you're Jewish yourself, and then you'll have a much harder time probably. However, even some Jews are coming around. I'll pray for you.

Sidenote: "Nazi" is a slur/moniker not made up by National Socialists for themselves, but by their mortal enemy, and the mortal enemy of all humanity, as an attempt to demonize them. But like the "N" word is now owned by N's, I'll take it o/⚡⚡

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Ruth H's avatar

Block him/her/it. I just did.

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Maureen's avatar

Someone tell me how to block.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

I'm very well versed in history and find your comment odd.

Any links to Trump/Hitler thing. Im curious to see who spreads such nonsense.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Xen spreads the nonsense. Best COA? Simply mute him/her/it, as I did, and save yourself time and energy. It think's it is smarter than you, it is not, but it is well indoctrinated and extremely uninformed and would like you to be too.

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Xen's avatar

😂 is "muting" and telling people who they should and shouldn't "listen" to the new shiny version of encouraging censorship in 2026? Because I encourage ppl to look deeper? Grow up is right.

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jan's avatar

Stop it already with the muting. Grow up

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I just muted you. I don't have to read/listen to you or others like that fool Xen. And I can express my opinion to mute or block them and others can make their own determination.

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Xen's avatar

What history? Who's history? Who wrote the books that you read? Indoctrination is not the same thing as true history. Sometimes people are so academic that they can't see the forest through the trees. Don't be one of the 10% that is never able to wake up due to cognitive dissonance.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Both funded by the Rothchilds.

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rolandttg's avatar

Fact: Hitler kicked the Rothschild central bank out of Germany

Fact: Hitler is the only world leader ever to arrest a Rothschild

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Xen's avatar

No. That's false information likely from controlled opposition. Don't just believe narratives without doing your own research.

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Light From Within-Lesley's avatar

One of the gifts of having a 24 year old son has been the invitation to revisit the history of the 19th and 20th centuries. The opening of the soviet archives has allowed a new generation of historians access to details/documents which expand the understanding of the geopolitical forces at work, especially Stalin’s actions. I have gained so much from reading historians who offer insights into the world wars. Especially Sean Mc Meekin’s Stalin’s War. Grateful to not remain in the fuzzy section of history captured by pronouncements of moral righteousness from newspaper level reporting/war propaganda that dominated my history classes. I have gained a more informed and nuanced understanding of FDR, Churchill, Hitler and Stalin and the ideological underpinnings of their actions.

TL;DR: Revisit rocked my world. Opened my thinking and offered context that explains much of the current geopolitical chessboard.

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Xen's avatar

👆 This

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Chloe Zapata's avatar

Jerk

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2hEdited

😂 HH baby

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I'm not sure it is a dark side, it is just capitalism - you as the consumer, properly informed - have the right to determine which you want and don't want. That's a good thing. Its good to know there are options available to you.

We are far more informed than perhaps at any other time in the history of the country, which has always been our part, our role. Do your homework, be informed, make educated decisions, don't let someone else - who likely doesn't have your best interests in mind - make them for you. Protect your sovereignty.

You can always unsubscribe from the emails and block them too.

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Gym+Fritz's avatar

Re Greenland, I think the answer is obvious. Don’t try to buy all of it, just the parts where there are no towns or settlements. Turn all of the occupied areas into either Danish colonies / sovereign states / long term enclaves (ie. Hong Kong’s) - that should lower the price, and avoid any issues with the indigenous* population . . . a win-win-win deal. (*third +\- wave)

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Matt L.'s avatar

Give me more of that Crunchy Granola Suite.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Ivermectin _does_ cost pennies, but the demand, lack of orgs willing to fill it, and so on drove up the cost in the US significantly. You can still get the "animal" versions - whether in a syringe or paste - and it's significantly cheaper that way. But getting the official/human versions in the US these days is $$. :(

Not sure why Tamiflu, though - seem to remember reading several things about how that's not all that great.

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John Galt?'s avatar

I came down with a cold last Thursday. I started 24mg Ivermectin daily on Friday morning, and after three doses, I am nearly 100% well. I think I will drop to 12mg for a couple of days. This isn't a commentary on the Wellness company (I got mine elsewhere). It's too bad the hucksters are riding the alternative health bandwagon.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

I also start dosing when I first feel cold or flu symptoms. I haven't had a full blown version for years since I started doing this.

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SD Scott's avatar

Make sure to take zinc with it!

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Jeff S's avatar

If you let a cold or flu run its course, your systems will build up antibodies and grow stronger?

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Jeff S - yeah. Remember when everyone of any age caught a cold, and nobody freaked out about it? It was simply a part of life. Hydrate, gargle with salt water, rest, have some chicken soup maybe, blow your nose, wash your hands. As you mentioned, this is how our immune systems are developed and strengthened.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yup, the "old" way works, especially the chicken soup.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

It was when all the women either stampeded or were forced into careers and jobs and there was no one home to care for children for a week’s routine illness that demand for antibiotics and quick fixes accelerated and changed the landscape.

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BeBravata's avatar

I had what i would call a monster flu when I was 7ish, I was so so sick. I have not had a flu since, I believe because of the antibodies I have from that time.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yup. We're built that way.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I had a nasty cold as well last week and took 24mg Ivermectin/day for four days. By the morning of the fourth day, I felt well again and had my energy back. I am still blowing out the remainder of the junk, but Ivermectin works. It just works.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Exactly. Nothing left but the junk. Wouldn't it be great if everyone knew there was a cheap, safe, and effective antiviral medicine that cures the common cold.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Exactly.

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AngelaK's avatar

It is still a pharmaceutical which may have side effects.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

As a nurse, I have researched this and understand the risks, which are similar to any OTC or prescription drug. Common sense and caution should be exercised.

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AngelaK's avatar

Ofcourse. I personally avoid pharmaceuticals as much as possible..didn't take Tamiflu for influenza I just had, just 24/7 high dose vitamin c, good nutrition, homemade chicken soup,, etc.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Get rid of the junk with guifenesen at the same time as the ivermectin. Thins mucous. Organic. Not mucinex. Expensive bullshit. .

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STH's avatar

I take NAC to thin mucus.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

I didn't know about that. Thanks!

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STH's avatar

When congested take 600-1200 twice a day. It also is a precursor to glutathione

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

What the heck is ‘guifenesen’?

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Guaifenesin; it's a mucus thinner and expectorant.

It's in all the Robitussin blends, but pure guafenesin syrup is harder to find without added cough suppressants and such. CVS Mucus and Chest Congestion is one.

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Generic Mucinex.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Horehound tea also works. Make it strong - steep it 15 minutes.

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Elaine H's avatar

I started drinking mullein tea. It’s supposed to be good for upper respiratory infections. Then, lo and behold, I see an ad on my fb feed for mullein to be used for horses as an alternative to antibiotics. Pretty interesting.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Just yesterday I read something about Tamiflu being ineffective, yet doctors continue prescribing it. Of course! On a similar note, beware ALL antibiotics. Have you ever read the 4 pages of “side effects “ from using Levofloxacin? They include everything from a burst aorta to torn ligaments that occur years after use of that drug. I don’t know how many times Levofloxacin has been prescribed, but say that it’s only been used by 1 million people. If only 1% of those people have even one side effect, that’s 100,000 people.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

I’ve had my Achilles rupture (not sure if that’s correct term) twice. Very painful. Long time to heal. Yes I’ve taken the dreaded levofloxacin more than once. (Before I knew better)

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

How awful for you. Heather Heying talked about another antibiotic that is also known for causing ruptured Achilles Tendons, but I can’t recall its name right now. Antibiotics were always, they still are, pitched to us as gentle but necessary. They are all dangerous.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Mary Ann, could you be thinking of Cipro? I think that is another one with possible ruptured tendons as an adverse event.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Horizons's avatar

Ciprofloxacin, delafloxacin, levofloxacin, moxifloxacin, and ofloxacin are in the same class of antibiotics, the fluoroquinolones.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I would have to find the podcast, but it could well have been cipro. I’ll never take another antibiotic, that’s for certain. They all have hideous side effects.

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Beckadee's avatar

Do you think it is BS they recommend taking the full dosage, 10-14 days? I don't think they want you to have any of it leftover so you could treat yourself or pet without having to come in every damn time. Create that revolving door.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I wouldn't put it past them, but I do have a personal anecdote re: taking the full Rx as prescribed. During my 9th grade year, I came down with strep throat. Dr. prescribed the usual antibiotic, and being the typical teenager, I quit taking it when my throat stopped hurting. I ended up with a rebound case of strep throat that was even worse. I repeated that pattern one other time before I learned my lesson.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

My suspicion for the dosage length is so that it’s just shy of literally killing you.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

Do you know anything about flu shots and stroke correlation? A friend got flu shot late November and Jan 1 had a stroke. I don’t know where to look to see if there could be a correlation. He did seem to be a sitting target with high BP, currently taking statins (maybe it’s the statins), over weight (metabolic disease). So, not trying to pin anything on the flu shot but the timing is certainly curious.

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rolandttg's avatar

Most cancer books say there is a correlation between your lifespan and how many antibiotics you have taken.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yikes. Take care. Good luck.

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Melissa S's avatar

Yes. Tamiflu (Oseltamivir) is pretty worthless in my opinion. Taking it your flu symptoms may get better at best something like one day sooner. The history is quite interesting. Actually quite sordid, filled with conflicts of interest and dirty tricks by pharmaceutical companies and politicians. Donald Rumsfeld made a killing. GW Bush participated in the promotion and fear mongering, having the government buy up massive supplies to "protect" Americans and our soldiers. It is one of those Rx that was marketed as a treatment for something else, bird flu but got switched to the regular flu. Your doctor is probably totally unaware of potential horrendous side effects which have included hallucinations and other psychiatric side effects including death.

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Beth's avatar

Another interesting solution is manuka honey. It comes from New Zealand and is made from the same flowers that we get tea tree oil. It has a proven antibiotic, and Costco is selling it right now. I take it tablespoon every morning. Worth a try.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I always use Manuka honey if I am feeling under the weather!

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TDawg's avatar

Dang! I had a bout of acute appendicitis in 24, and they had me on IV Cipro and Flagyl. (sp?). Then oral after. I have all kinds of strange aches and pains. I’m still trying to get over it all. That crap rocked me back hard. Still have my appendix. 8 days in hospital.

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Butterfly2510's avatar

I read about both of these so if I go to the Dr which is sending, they’re on my allergic list along with a vax injury so no one pushes the vax on me. Research all of it before you take anything.

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TDawg's avatar

Unfortunately I was at the mercy of the ER and in no condition to even ask what they were giving me.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

The ER can be a Horrible experience! God bless you. I pray you are trusting in Jesus. He is the One holding everything together ❤️

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Tdawg, I’m curious as to why they did not remove the appendix?

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rolandttg's avatar

I was taking Flagyl during a trip to Vancouver. Had serious chronic diarrhea that gave me the worst hemorrhoids I have ever had. Ruined the trip.

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Ellen's avatar

i took that as a teenager and had an allergic reaction. First and last allergic reaction I've ever experienced.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Tdawg- you might have amoebas. I would definitely take the Flagyl (metronidazole)

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Tom's avatar

I had read that about Ciprofloxacin. Sadly not until after I had bought some.

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CStone's avatar

Yes to the torn ligaments from levofloxacin. In my arm. And I still suffer from it.

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RunningLogic's avatar

😞

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c Anderson's avatar

Of course you wouldn’t want to fly in a helicopter either because when they crash, you are less likely not to walk away from it. 🚁 Talk about fear mongering! 🙄

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I can find the human kinds online pretty cheap, but it took some digging....sans Google. Lesson learned. Of course, there will always be questions about purity, and such which complicates matters. Maybe that's why we pay more??

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Gentle people think: ‘Animal Ivermectin’ is sold to farmers who depend on it to keep their livestock healthy to sell you and all the upscale restaurants prime cuts of meat, to dairy farmers who sell milk to the grocery store where you buy milk for your children and Hagen Das buys cream for their ice cream, not to mention all the horse breeders that raise multimillion dollar race horses hoping to win the Kentucky Derby, if not the whole Triple Crown.

Do you think that any of these gentlemen would chance wasting their money & the health & lives of their valuable animals by purchasing an inferior product? Not to mention the shrewd and penny pinching Amish farmer down the road from me here in Lancaster County, PA.

I have it on good authority (an acquaintance physician and pharmacist married to a woman who owns show horses) that it is the same stuff and absolutely safe & effective (unlike the jabs), made to equivalent standards (just with some artificial apple flavor added so the large animal doesn’t kick or bite the farmer or animal trainer after being dosed with it).

I have used the animal version for years both for treatment and prophylaxis for myself. I use IndiaMart to find suppliers for my patients and friends as I don’t want to run afoul of medical, pharmacy, or veterinary laws/regulations. It is easy to calculate the appropriate dose.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Thank you Roger Kimber MD…. I’ve raised well bred intensely researched lines and genetics Arabian and APHA sport horses since the 70’s… (Vet Tech and licensed nurse) …. We share ideologies, research and experience… we livestock experts recommended the paste from the very hint of a weaponized biological headed our way… ostracized by the so-called “medical experts”…in fact, no one raising expensive cattle or horses, “would chance wasting their money & the health & lives of their valuable animals by purchasing an inferior product” … we used what we knew because we have decades of experience with our own highly treasured animals (more closely defined as family members to equine types)… anyway… thank you Dr Kimber for sharing your wisdom….

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NormaJeanne's avatar

Former livestock/horse owner and nurse here. You are absolutely correct.

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rolandttg's avatar

As I said , Smartguard did more to cure my wife's breast cancer than anything else.

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Peter Schott's avatar

I'm curious - what did you find? What were the prices/tablet? Even the cheapest I've seen have still been in the $1/tablet realm and that seems high to me.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I have purchased recently from ResolvX, recommended by the 2nd Smartest Guy Substack. I'm sure there are other companies where these can be purchased, but I agree, they should be cheaper and over the counter.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Ivermectin.com, certified, purity tested, non Chinese provider, 100% USA manufactured, ships fast.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I was looking at the notice list and it says " ... they are made 100% in India from scratch." Yet elsewhere it says 100% USA. Something smells .....

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I purchased my fenben, iver and doxy from 2nd Smartest a few years ago (took me a few months to get over thinking that this was yet another hoax and actually make a purchase)--

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I have found them to be reliable, products as described, with fast shipping and tracking of the order. To me that makes the price reasonable.

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Tom's avatar
7hEdited

Be careful with the doxy: Expired doxycycline related drugs are pretty dangerous from what I've read.

Edit: I may be mistaken about doxy, but other tetracycline family products may be the ones to avoid if expired. Do your homework!

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

That’s who I also buy from.

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Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Me, too!

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John Galt?'s avatar

That's where I got mine. Get the 12mg dose.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Mexican Pharmacy has two brands of ivermectin for $1.35 and $1.40 per tablet.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Made in India?

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SD Scott's avatar

Indiamart

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Have you ordered recently? I want to order again but the last time, my shipment was confiscated by the FDA in the port of NY. I'm going to try again now that President Trump is in office.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Well Peter, it looks like you got me. I haven't checked those saved links in a long time. In looking at them now the prices are indeed higher than they were even a year ago. I stand corrected. Seems as though everyone is following suit and taking advantage. I haven't the time to go price digging at the moment, so I'll offer this up for consideration: https://pharmeasybank.com/product/iverheal-3mg/

Might need a prescription.

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Sheila Cimis's avatar

Might be the budesonide that is causing the increase in price. Very expensive when prescribed usually.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

That's what I just commented. I bought an inhaler last year and it was $185.

Mrs. RW

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plutomeyer's avatar

Navin - Keshavdas And Sons Med Exports (via IndiaMart). very cheap, very reliable. Need to open a Wise account (or other way to send money abroad).

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Aaron Smith's avatar

I also would like to know and a link would be wholeheartedly appreciated thank you in advance.

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Juju's avatar
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I found a study that tested some of the more popular sources for efficacy and price by measuring how long parasites took to die after exposure (a good sign of quality). The study was done last year or the year before. It found that the most effective brand was sold from Mexico Veridex - it killed in 2-days. Austro brand was highly effective killing in 3-days (I get it from Alldaychemist.com)

Many other kinds took 7-12 days to kill showing they were much lower quality of manufacturing. Unfortunately at that time the two I was sourcing for a LOT cheaper from India were not included in the study. The Veridex and the Austro brands are less expensive than what America is selling, but twice as expensive as my cheaper sources. When I have the money I just buy one of those two. When things are tight I buy horse paste and empty 00 vitamin capsules from Amazon and fill them with the paste for easy administration. I have found over the past two years the paste works far better than anything else, however I do have quick response and recovery with the human pill forms I bought.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I’ve always used Alldaychemist. Their prices are reasonable and the product ships fast.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Good info Juju. A few years ago I first tried the apple flavor horse paste, but was averse to taking it. I like your suggestion of filling capsules with it for easy use. Currently, I have a small emergency supply of Ivermectin tabs with an expiry date of 7/26. I guess I'll have to purchase more later this year.

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SuezCanal's avatar

I've been told that IVM pills will last for years. Ignore expiration date.

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Asa Plinch's avatar

Like you, Eric, I looked to Wellness Company (for Ivermectin only). Price was exorbitant, but I bought it. I only did a cursory search for an alternative source, but found none. BTW, I am not receiving any of the e-mails you mention (perhaps they are being filtered to my spam folder). In any event, it is disappointing that Wellness is "fear-marketing."

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yes, that's the biggest disappointment. The email even contained a colorful map of the U.S. depicting the hardest hit areas. It's Covid all over again. It's how the game is played. I wasn't a pawn then, and won't be one now.

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c Anderson's avatar

Fear-marketing? What a joke. They are appealing to a broad range of customers. Many of those customers have complicated chronic medical conditions that require avoiding at all costs the risks of having a case if the flu. How about those with COPD? Tamiflu would be a be a reasonable choice for them than just having Ivermectin. Fact is that Ivermectin halts the replication of the Covid virus, but it isn’t a cure all. Because flu mutates quickly, having options available is also a consideration. You are totally out of your area of expertise.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Read A Midwestern’s Doctor on Tamiflu. She says it’s a scam.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

They get you coming and going with Covid fear.

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rolandttg's avatar

Only if you let them. And I sure as S don't.

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Laureen's avatar

https://drstellamd.com/

Dr. Stella is red pilled and you can get ivermec through her. I think a consultation via telemed has to be done with her first.

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STH's avatar

I get human ivermectin from a Pharmacy in TN. Medicine Counter 423-680-7373. No prescription needed. No idea the cost because thanks to XClear I haven’t needed it since 2022.

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Mike's avatar

$5.00 per pill!!

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CHop's avatar

IMA ( formerly FLCCC) has many sources on their website. They list some in India, but Varrone prefers not to use India as a source as he questions the quality. Also, look at the bottle of Wellness Co. Spike treatment. All of the ingredients are listed and all can be purchased online or at a health food store.

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rolandttg's avatar

And I have calculated "cheaper" after looking at the ingredients and dosages of 4 supplements on the bottle. I was taking 3 of the 4 already, so easy comparison for me.

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c Anderson's avatar

The problem is that drugs aren’t made in America. To source American made ivermectin is the problem.

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Lynne Ferreira's avatar

I’ve used Alldaychemist out of India since 2020. $1 a pill if you buy 100 12mg. I first bought it after listening to Dr M testify in Texas about treating patients with it. Was such a solid source in the start of the plandemic but the company he started has gone south for sure. I wonder how much control he has over the direction of it since he started it with the spike detox supplement?

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TDawg's avatar

Is that a trustworthy place in India?

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

I've been down a few dark rabbit holes in regards to the goings on in India. I felt the need for a shower. Interesting lot. Seem to be preoccupied with feces and general filth.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

And China who makes all drugs

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Japper's avatar

I’ve purchased from them, but haven’t used the meds yet, so can’t really speak to efficacy.

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Karmy's avatar

You can make your own hydroxycloroquine. It’s quinine. There are many links online on how to do it.

https://deeprootsathome.com/easy-diy-quercetin-quinine-water-recipe-a-cold-flu-remedy/

https://www.simplyandnaturally.com/hydroxychloroquine-quinine-homemade-remedy/

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Marty Kiner's avatar

I ve bought ivermectin from a pharmacy in India as well as hydroxichloroquin

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CHop's avatar

I've been using the horse paste on my infected toenail that I've had for years and nothing previously worked. I noticed a big difference within a week, but I'm continuing to use it until the nail grows out. I'm also seeing reports that it can topically treat skin tags, excema and skin cancers.

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Frederic whinery's avatar

Tamiflu will lessen your flu symptoms by about 3 hours.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

LOL

Mrs. RW

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Free in Florida's avatar

Peter, If you have a PCP who will write you a prescription, you can get IVM and HCQ at a compounding pharmacy for much less. By law, they can’t compound the multiples of 3 dosages but they use your weight and get very close.

We pay $6 a pill for a 20 mg pill for my husband, for example. Our “prophylaxis regimen” which I’ve put us on during the fall/winter season for covid ends up costing us $25 each per month. It’s worth it because I’m convinced it also helps with other viral issues. The compounding pharmacy sells hydroxychloroquine for pennies and it’s the same pill you’d get from a CVS Pharmacy. I think the last time we got HCQ it was $39 for about 50 200mg pills.

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BelleTower's avatar

Not pennies. We travel to Mexico a lot and regularly price ivermectin there where it is sold otc … it runs around $1.50 - $2.00 a dose. We buy India-sourced through Amazon for around half that.

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STH's avatar

It’s not esp in children. Can cause hallucinations and suicidal ideation.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The animal versions work fine.

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Jeff Schreiber's avatar

Opportunists are always around, even wearing white hats to go along with their white coats. In 2020 I listened to the late Dr Zev Zelenko who worked very hard to save the lives of his elderly patients using hydroxychloroquine and zinc. When the evil doers in New York banned it he suggested they use Quercetin, an inexpensive natural supplement that has a similar effect with zinc. And along with Vitamin C and D3 he created what is known as the Zelenko Protocol which I’ve been taking daily for these past six years. I buy them separately from a well established family owned supplement company in the Midwest. And how has it worked? For approximately 1 dollar a day, my immune system has gotten so strong that I haven’t gotten sick once. Even the short term cough that came and went in 2021 didn’t slow me down at all.

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Laureen's avatar

I buy Dr. Zelenko products from his site. He is deeply missed.

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NanaW's avatar

Would you be willing to share a link to your supplement company in the Midwest?

I struggle with finding actual quality supplements on Amazon. So many are junk ones made overseas.

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NanaW's avatar

Thank you so much! It’s really appreciated.

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fuzzi's avatar

I use both Swanson and Bronson supplements.

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rolandttg's avatar

What amazed me is he seemed to be so smart, but did not know how to treat his cancer holistically. I was shocked.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

I too continue using the late Dr. Zelenko’s protocol -Quercetin with Zinc and vitamins. Works very well.

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Kelli's avatar
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Right there with ya!

Holistic and chiropractors are on the same bandwagon. Some of the treatment protocols and supplement recommendations would put an average person in the poor house. (I know they have to make a living, but geeezzz.)

IMHO, until we stop looking "laterally" for our guidance, and start looking "vertically," (i.e. the Lord), this problem will continue.

As a personal testimony: I find every prayer of mine is answered. When it comes to health, I am always directed to just want I need in that moment. I love my chiropractor, but don't place him or her in a position of ultimate authority.

It's when I start looking laterally (false idols) for guidance that my troubles all begin...

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Penny North's avatar

As a retired chiropractor, I respect your opinion. And yes, some do push additional products for profit.

However, in my experience, my patients were thankful that I could recommend a quality product for the price, and that they did not have to wade through dozens of products out there and hope they got a good one. And it was immediately available with my counseling on it.

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CHop's avatar

I agree. Many accuse Dr. Mercola for being a profiteer, but he has been attacked in so many ways and needs to make a living somehow. He continues to put out his newsletter free to the public.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

And what he sells is decent and in sync with nature. Anything God created is good and with value.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Howdy, fellow retired chiropractor! “A quack a day keeps the MD away!”

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

What I like about chiropractors (and massage therapists) is that they work on our outsides, and dont interfere with our innards. 🤣

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Penny North's avatar

Ah - but the outside work mightily affects the innards via the nervous system.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Of course! I meant, however, it’s not a direct internal intervention like drugs, vaccines, surgery, I.V.s, etc. I am also a fan of physical therapy.

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Juju's avatar

I’d like to ask you a question.

My background: I have very little if any options of holistic care within driving distance of me. There is one that I’ve heard of who is a chiropractor. I’m very interested. But … I have severe, advanced osteoporosis, 30 years advanced beyond my age (long story.) I break my ribs all the time, once just by laying on my stomach, once doing the leg press at my gym, and most recently the more obvious way by falling on ice (as I sit here in pain with two broken ribs typing this. 🙄)There is another condition I have with excessive itching on my arms (scarred to the hilt because of it.) I’ve suffered for 30+ years with this condition and no doctor or dermatologist has successfully gotten to the bottom of it. They only treated the symptoms. Recently I discovered brachioradial pruritis which is the first condition to describe to a tee what I suffer. It is traced to a cervical pinched nerve in the neck area. The most effective treatment is …. chiropractic care! So now I have two reasons to want to see this doctor.

My fear, is they will refuse to treat me because of my osteoporosis. It’s not like they can safely do adjustments on me. I have a spinal T-score of -3.7! Scary.

My question is can I still see a chiropractor for care that doesn’t involve adjustments? What would you do if a patient like me made an appt with you?

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Penny North's avatar

I would look for a chiropractor who does Atlas Orthogonal or DNF (directional non force) techniques. Those should be safe, but the DC would know.

However, I had many years experience and would have considered caring for you or giving you other options after a complete history and exam.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

“Recently I discovered brachioradial pruritis which is the first condition to describe to a tee what I suffer.” Yes, I have that condition; the itch is horrible. A doctor didn’t diagnose it; a friend did! Creams did not help. The only remedy that works for me is to wear tattoo sleeves in the summer (the sun aggravates the condition) and use direct ice on the itch when it presents. Wishing you the best.

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Djcip's avatar

I was diagnosed, by my dermatologist, with brachioradial pruritis about 5 years ago. Prior to that I used to go out of my mind itching and taking ice packs to bed just to make it through the night. Mine was caused by sun damage, having done roofing and other construction shirtless in the summer. I started wearing long sleeves at all times and when swimming wearing a spf 50 shirt. I have not had a recurrence since. BTW, Dr. said if I continued to have problems , Gabbapentin is useful.

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Juju's avatar

Gabbapentin is helpful but very bad for you long term. As ALL pharmaceuticals are - the side effects are as bad as what it is supposed to treat. I like the idea of spf shirts because sunscreens have very harmful chemicals in them making additional cancerous problems

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Kelli's avatar

My comment was not intended to "dis" chiropractors. I LOVE my chiropractor, and credit him with helping turn my health around after allopathic medicine nearly trashed it.

My (attempted) point was that it would be a mistake to turn him into an "expert to be worshiped." He is still a human being, and doesn't always get it right. Even he states this. 😊

We see natural/holistic health care as a better choice, and it is ... but we also run the risk of looking to that crowd as a whole new group of "experts," creating new idols to be worshiped.

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BelleTower's avatar

Amen amen! This is the time to turn all things over to Jesus in prayer. Philippians 4:6, my memory verse for last week

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CStone's avatar

What you just said, all day and twice on the Sabbath (which is not Sunday) 😊

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Most Christians consider Sunday to be the sabbath since Jesus Christ arose from the tomb in victory on a Sunday morning! That is why we gather and worship on that day.

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CStone's avatar

I know. But we don’t get to decide what the Sabbath is.

God HIMSELF established the Seventh Day at the beginning.

I too was taught that the first day of of the week was the new Sabbath. But when I got old enough to read the Word for myself, I could not find where Yeshua said anything about there being a ‘New’ Sabbath.

And man does NOT get to choose what day of the week is the Sabbath.

Notice our own calendars show what day the 7th day is.

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Quiltlady's avatar

The Torah is very clear on this point. Sabbath Keepers Rejoice!

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rolandttg's avatar

You are so correct. We are blesses that we can afford them and reprioritized when my wife had cancer. But I don't even want to say what we spend on supplements in a year. More than I made in my first real job. 50 years ago

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes I had McCullough on a pedestal for a while, even considered buying his emergency kit as a show of support but this non stop hucksterism has taken him down a few pegs in my eyes. And yes, follow the local (left-leaning) news channels and they are all pimping flu hysteria too, Interestingly, the comments run 2 to 1 in favor of people bashing the fear mongering, so there is hope for us yet.

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Donna B's avatar

I lost respect for McCullough when he started pushing his weight loss stuff called Drop which is essentially like Ozempic and not good for the body.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I quit his substack and was not even aware he was doing that!? So many of the people I used to hold in high regard ultimately end up disappointing me. Add him to the list.

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nancy barker's avatar

I still respect him. He needs to make a living, after losing his job with the TX hospital. I just ignore the push for his products. He is still a champion, in my thinking. One of the first brave enough to speak up about the Covid scam.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

He may have been controlled opposition all along.

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c Anderson's avatar

Huckster? He is offering options, yet you can’t get over that people need to make a living to offer those options/services. America is Capitalism. There are those that refuse to do their homework and buy items and services that are expensive or worse, but Capitalism is a great blessing. Did you read about the problem of rent control in NYC? You might extrapolate a that a tad. 😏

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Donna in MO's avatar

Oh I am not saying the fact that he is selling products is a bad thing. But there is a line somewhere. You can't paint yourself as the champion of good healthcare practice and the purveyor of drugs (on a non stop basis) in the same breath. For me healthcare is 'different' from run of the mill consumer products and services. In an ideal world, I would like to trust that the person I am trusting with my healthcare is not giving advice based on the profit margin of a given option.

And I also liken it to the retailer who sends you 2-3 emails a DAY, every one saying 'best deal ever' or 'must-have product' or whatever. It changes MY perception of that retailer from positive to annoying.

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shayne's avatar

Ivermectin was only pennies a pop until it became the darling go-to for all of us. I have some myself, but the horse paste is still a cheap go to. I have some of that too. 😉

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Laureen's avatar

After what McCullough lost during Covid, money, lead job at Baylor in cardio dept and all benefits, part of the disinformation gang pulverizing his esteemed rep, paying lawyers and more, he deserves to recoup his life and make money. Just don't order from his company in future!

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Evangeline's avatar

Agree. Dr McCullough is a gem and he saved many lives during Covid by openly warning Americans about Covid and why we could never immunize our way out of any pandemic. He was in a very small group of courageous and principled doctors who spoke out regardless of what it cost them! This world class cardiologist was blacklisted and publicly harrassed by the machine, but he never backed down. Nor did a very few others like Dr Zelenko. He lost his standing at Baylor University. He deserves to make bank on good supplements that get you medications you just cant get proactively ahead of time. God bless the few doctors who spoke out then and warned about covid shots and how to treat covid. Our doctor refused to see us and told us go to the hospital if we turned colors.

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Beth's avatar

Me too!!!!

I would like to propose a C&C challenge. Perhaps if all of the readers of this substack wrote to the wellness company and challenged their pricing and fear-mongering, we might see a difference.

I wrote to them and told them they were acting like big pharma and I was ashamed of them and surprised that only wealthy people are allowed now to get healthy. I can't afford $800 for this remedy and 600 for that remedy! What the hell are they thinking? Who did they hire to market them, the people fired from big pharma?

Seriously I think it's time for pushback, Dr McCullough is trying to make millions on the people who are disaffected with big pharma, but he's no better than they are at this point.

Till then, I'm still ordering my ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine from all day pharmacy in india. It's a good product, they are very responsive, and I don't have to mortgage my dog in order to afford the medicines.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Don't involve your do. 🤣

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Anthony S Burkett's avatar

The first mistake you made was putting yourself on their list... When it comes to marketing good health, in my opinion, there are no "Good Guys", only capital interests in profitability... and apparently, The Wellness Company is one of them.

Try https://www.alldaychemist.com for your pharmaceutical needs... There are also currently four states where Ivermectin is available over-the-counter (OTC). Take a road trip... It'll be fun! :)

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Donna in MO's avatar

It's not that easy though. We were in TN in 2023 and stopped at several retail pharmacies asking for IVM and got blank stares from the store employees, NONE of whom said they even knew what ivermectin was! So asked the pharmacist and was told they did not sell it. After we got home I dug into it and there were only about 50 locations in the whole state.

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Anthony S Burkett's avatar

I did not know that, even though it was some time ago, right after TN passed the law in April 2022. I will keep that in mind. Thank you!

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Donna in MO's avatar

There may be more now, but guessing the chains like CVS and Walgreens in the states are not participating. The TN law makes it optional.

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Anthony S Burkett's avatar

A quick internet search proves you correct! It is considered voluntary in all of the States (TN, AK, LA, ID, and TX) that have currently passed laws allowing the sale of Ivermectin OTC... apparently, this is due to the FDA not authorizing such sale... Thank you for correcting me... saves me a trip out of state!... This appears to be an issue with Big Pharma's profit margins... I guess I'll stick with the aforementioned internet site.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

The following states currently allow some form of non-prescription access for humans:

States with Non-Prescription Access

Texas: As of December 4, 2025, ivermectin is available behind the pharmacy counter without a doctor's prescription. Pharmacists are required to provide a fact sheet and discuss potential side effects (like nausea or dizziness) with the patient.

Tennessee: One of the first states to pass such legislation (2022). It allows pharmacists to dispense ivermectin under a "standing order" or collaborative agreement, provided they use a screening tool to assess the patient's risk.

Idaho: Passed legislation in early 2025 allowing ivermectin to be sold similarly to other over-the-counter medications like ibuprofen, though it is usually held behind the counter for pharmacist consultation.

Louisiana: Effective late 2025, the State Health Officer issued a statewide standing order allowing any licensed pharmacist to dispense a limited quantity (typically up to 25 tablets) to adults after a screening.

Arkansas: Has passed legislation allowing for pharmacist-led dispensing without an individual patient-specific prescription from a physician.

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Beth's avatar

Thank you, that's the company I have used for 5 years. Forgot their name!

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Quiltlady's avatar

That would likely be a very long road trip for me. I live 50 miles from the West Coast. I contacted a local Compounding Pharmacy and my local Naturopath sent them a prescription for Ivermectin and they sent the capsules to me in the mail. I have a brain issue that causes me to lose consciousness on a somewhat regular basis, so no driving allowed. I also have a leaky heart valve which The Medical doctors refuse to do surgery on because they always use blood thinners during and after the surgery and that would likely cause my brain to bleed too much. Thankfully, I know that my life is in the Hands of the God who created all things and I know I will be with my Jesus when the time is right. I eat healthy and take some targeted Supplements and every day is an adventure. Fortunately, my son and his sweet wife share a house with me, so I have help. My days are spent in reading my Bible and praying for God's people. And of course reading a few articles on substack like this one. God bless you all!

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John of Oregon Fame's avatar

Eric, I've gotten the calls to fear the new flu too.(is that some form os "sonic illiteration??;) I have great respect for Dr McCullough and the the unfair, unlawful persecutions that have cost him his career and his livelyhood. He has to generate income somehow, but I'm not sure this is the way to go about it.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

No, I can't say anything bad about the man. There's tons of speculation about his REAL motives, and such, but I’m not going there. That's all out of my purview. My original comment was about the onslaught of fear based emails - which kind of caught me by surprise - and pricing. He may very well have no idea of the contents of the emails….or pricing for that matter. Who knows for sure?

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Mike's avatar

Just thought I'd throw this into the fray...anyone have feedback on their use of methylene blue?

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Karmy's avatar

You are right about Tamiflu. A suggestion I have is to buy a homeopathic remedy called Oscillococcinum. It’s cheap, found in pharmacies, Walmart, & online. No side effects and it works even as a preventative. If I am going to be in a crowd during flu season, I take some. If I feel like something is coming on, I take some. There’s no downside.

“Trusted for more than 80 years, Oscillococcinum continues to be a convenient and reliable first choice for relief of flu-like symptoms. It has been shown in clinical studies to help reduce both the duration and severity of flu-like symptoms, such as body aches, headache, fever, chills, and fatigue. Oscillococcinum is non-drowsy and recommended for everyone ages 2 and up.”

https://www.oscillo.com/#page

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STH's avatar

Second Smartest Guy kicked me out of his base when I posted cheaper alternatives to his stuff. Yup so he’s a grifter too. Your health is secondary.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

And on it goes.

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Mike's avatar

100 12mg tabs for $63...delivered. Hard to find a better deal.

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kittynana's avatar

$325 is a bargain. They used to be $450. All that money for pills that sit losing their potency. Forget about possibly taking the wrong thing; ineffective at least, possibly deadly at most. And their Drop weight loss product? The hydrochloric acid in the stomach would eat it up before it even hits the system. I made a comment about snake oil once re: McCullough and I got bitch slapped by a ton of people.

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Jeff Schreiber's avatar

Dr Stella Immanuel who also has a similar prescription service has said that both IVM and HCQ have a very long shelf life. So keep them stored in a cool dry place and don’t worry about replacing them for several years. I’ve had both for 4 years and never needed to take either.

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fuzzi's avatar

I bought Ivermectin during Covid, but just took it back in August when I got a flu-like illness. It worked, so it had retained potency four years later.

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Juju's avatar

You missed nothing, nailed everything. I noticed this right off the bat last year and refused to do business with the Wellness Company or any business or pharmacy overcharging for these medications. I found cheaper but high quality sources for Ivermectin, hydrochloroquine, z-packs, etc etc and follow the recommendations published by the old FLCCC organization (new name escapes me) as well as keep handy Dr Zelenko’s protocols and website links. I buy brands of supplements that I trust either through Amazon or their own website and only at reasonable costs.

It’s absolutely ridiculous what they provide for $325 dollars when for that same cost I can stock enough of everything to treat my whole family for a year, including detox protocols.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Turn on your spam filter, and reclaim your time.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Marketing dude entering chat.

Would not touch any commercial health products from the shills.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Dr Herbert Shelton wrote an entire article titled Influenza in 1944. He states:

"Physicians and patients rarely realise how much the treatment is responsible for increased and prolonged suffering and death. Physicians are unaware of their fallacy to 'eat plenty of nourishing food to keep up your stength.... Delirium, spasm, peritonitis, pneumonia, nia, pleurisy, heart trouble, sleeping sickness etc are listed among the complications of influenza. These develop in those who are fed and drugged.

Whether the condition is severe cold, influenza, or pneumonia, the first thing is to stop stop eating. Absolutely no food, but water, should be allowed until the acute symptoms have subsided. No drugs of any kind should be resorted to.

Go to bed and rest. Keep warm. Rest, Rest, fast, fasting, warmth-these are the needs. Have plenty of fresh air in your room. Under these conditions you may lie in bed and get well in a short time with no complications and no sequels.

You don't need treatment. The fever, inflammation, coughing, etc. constitute the healing process... Just get out of their way and permit them to complete their work. Don't try to aid nature- she doesn't need your puny aid- she only asks that you cease interfering.

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TDawg's avatar

I agree completely. Fasting cures a lot of ills. Only thing I would add is if possible get some direct sunlight.

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J. Lincoln's avatar

Dr. Shelton's advice would have been immensely useful during the post-Great War Spanish Flu pandemic. As it was, A.G. Bayer's new wonder drug aspirin had recently become available, and since aspirin was capable of reducing fever (fever being regarded as something anti-therapeutic at the time), people were taking aspirin by the shovels-full to eliminate the flu-induced fever, resulting in massive bleeding in the already inflamed lungs of flu sufferers. This killed them and accounted for the massive case-fatality rates associated with an influenza strain that would have been better treated by water fasting, bed rest, keeping warm and sunlight whenever possible. Nature, or God if you prefer put that fever in the recovery process for a very good reason.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, el gato malo posted a substack on that several years ago now and it was shocking to me at the time. (Sadly almost nothing shocks me any more) Said the prescribed dosing was many times greater than was safe. Also read that due to hospitals being full, patient beds were put outdoors, and those who got fresh air and sunshine had better outcomes than those indoors.

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Quiltlady's avatar

Symptoms are the body's attempt to detox something that doesn't belong in you.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The filibuster is a tool meant to be used by thoughtful people. The silent filibuster is a tool used by thoughtless people.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thoughtless, lazy people. Arrogant might fit as well. No party affiliation required.

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Teresa Parmenter's avatar

💯

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

What i want to know is how did Cory Booker go 25 hrs without peeing or pooping?!

That has to be a world record. So there's that.

The guy sitting outside my local gas station mumbling all day would do better than a Ds filibuster.

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

Oh he peed and he pooped. Into a diaper.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Ah. I see, he was depending on Depends.

Makes sense now!

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J. Lincoln's avatar

Took his cue from Sleepy Joe.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I bought some Kimberly Clark two months ago, in part figuring that Dems must be getting so scared that they will have to depend upon.....Depens.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I wonder if he got them at a neighborhood childcare center???

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TDawg's avatar

At lest he didn’t pull a Jerry Nadler.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Lolol

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Robert McCluskey's avatar

Supplied by BIDEN

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thinking the same

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It depends? 😎

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Jeff S's avatar

Booker was wearing a diaper...

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Juju's avatar

Bingo

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well put.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Thank you!

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George Burnet's avatar

Beautiful

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Thank you!

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Phillip Zinni III DO FAOASM's avatar

You're bring politically correct, doesn't "thoughtless prople" = "useful idiots"? Just remembering past quotes?

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

No & yes. No because those individuals hold seats with a modicum of power. Yes, most are willingly ignorant and a few are naturally ignorant; I'm of the opinion any dose of ignorance is an ingredient that constitutes a Useful Idiot. I fit that description for a number of years and these days I endeavor to persevere, attempting to avoid mass ignorance. 🤠

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J. Lincoln's avatar

Ironically, that's the only time that those assholes are silent.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

True, and when they are not silent they never say anything.

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Ruth H's avatar

Or just an excuse for the Senate to continue not doing what we elected them to do when we voted for Trump.

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8hEdited

Dr. Jake Scott: physicians might not have the time to address parents’ worries adequately.

Translation: Doctors have NOT been obtaining informed consent up to this point in time. They have just been presuming compliance.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yup. What's interesting is that many of the vaccines removed from the schedule (such as Rotavirus and MenB) aren't even required for school. CDC puts out the schedule, but then the states pass legislation requiring specific vaccines for school attendance. Not a single state requires all of them, most states require around half of the old (pre-RFK Jr) schedule.

Yet pediatricians happily vaccinate TO THE CDC SCHEDULE, not to state law. Further, our pediatrician flat out lied to us and told us the entire schedule was required for school. I'm sure this common and it's the opposite of informed consent but deceitful coercion.. I called her out, fired her lying ass, and never went back.

Importantly, once a vaccine is off the childhood schedule, it's no longer exempt from liability. This is the key move in all of this, it's no so much them not being required for school as most aren't, but if they are given recklessly they can now be sued. That is the big reason the medical industrial complex is freaking out.

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BelleTower's avatar

Yes yes yes! Liability was written around “CDC recommended schedule” so now no more for many vaccines.

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Emmel's avatar

This is the BIG issue for pharma, being off the CDC schedule doesn’t mean it’s prohibited, parents can still do as they please. But, without legal protection big Pharm know that their ass is swinging in the breeze ( Dr’s should also see this, maybe their insurance companies will help them see the light) I suspect most will discontinue selling or administering the vaccines not on the schedule.

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william howard's avatar

Dr. Mercola has an excellent article today on how the whole vaccine issue is just another religion (he is also selling an anti-vaccine book) and that yes doctors sign on without any real examination of the facts - so like "climate change" we can add vaccines to the list of the world's biggest lies

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Aaron Smith's avatar

Pet vaccinations as well.

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shayne's avatar

Absolutely.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Depends on how horny the doc is, and how hot the rep is. Been on both sides of this.

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William Bogert's avatar

💯🎯

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Peter Schott's avatar

That lawsuit is just amazing in how ridiculous it is. Not suing about "this is wrong" but "we have to actually spend time doing our jobs". Ugh.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Yep, number 1 income generator for pediatricians. It's their bread and butter.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Veterinarians too that’s their cash carousel

I stopped last year talking my pets to get vaxxed up

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Donna in MO's avatar

Trying to get my hubby to agree to that one! 4 cats, all relatively young and healthy and the cost for their annual visits has doubled in the last 6 years. In 2022 the long time owner of the practice retired and sold to what is probably a private equity backed chain. We get constant emails and texts pimping something or another. Have read the industry is consolidating, and PE owns about a fourth of all vet clinics, that keep the mom and pop name so most are unaware of the change. Until they get the bill!

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Dave Slough's avatar

Vet visits have seen inflation that has way outpaced national averages

But the fact that these have never been tested on animals wtf

I’ve stopped because I believe it’s safer for my pets to do without

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Donna in MO's avatar

Not to mention quality of care.

Had one who had a lot of drooling, losing weight, less appetite 8 years ago. Vet looked him over and said it was either an infection in his jaw, or cancer. Try the antibiotic and if that does not work you will have a decision to make. He was 17 YO. Antibiotic did not work, and we decided to put him down as putting a cat that old through treatments (that the vet said did not have a great shot) seemed cruel.

Under the new ownership, had 2 other old cats. Both were losing weight, less active. One was 17 in 2022 and the other 20 at the time, 2023, but took them to the vet to rule out something other than just getting old. Ended up paying hundreds of dollars for blood tests and exams and diagnostic overkill and they basically came back with nothing other than one of them was in the early stages of kidney disease that they sold us $$$ food for. Cat hated the food and didn't eat it. 17 YO passed away in his sleep a month or so later, and the other lived another 6 months. They also try to push teeth cleaning. We've had cats for 35 years, almost all lived well into their teens and never had their teeth cleaned and now we are told this is a 'standard need'. BS. It's a money grab.

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Dave Slough's avatar

Don’t even get me started on the teeth cleaning scam.

The fact that you have to put your pet under anesthesia to do this was the bottom line

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fuzzi's avatar

The rabies vax has the same dose for any size animal, so a 5# dog gets the same dose as a 100# dog. A video of a Connecticut vet testifying about it killing his patients is available on YT.

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Romgrp's avatar

Plus the Rabies vax has become an RNA vax! Brought to you by Merck. Buyer beware.

https://youtube.com/shorts/BsSKERxVMX4?

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Dave Slough's avatar

Last year I asked my vet if their rabies vax was the RNA type. She said no and at the current time (again spring 25) the US was still using the old and Canada was using the RNA

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Romgrp's avatar

Yup- people need to ask their vet.

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KBB's avatar

Dr Will Falconer DVM will convince you that vaccinating your pets is no better than intentionally poisoning them. https://vitalanimal.substack.com/

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Dave Slough's avatar

Nice link

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Donna in MO's avatar

And if so, we need to be looking at the whole compensation structure. Medicare/medicaid reimbursements help drive the bus for insurance reimbursements. Despite HC costs through the roof every year, low reimbursement rates have been driving the small family practice docs into the health systems/hospitals ever since the ACA started having effects. So docs are corporate employees, not autonomous. They graduate with massive student loans and malpractice insurance rates are high in my state. My OB/GYN for 30 years was a rare duck in that he did maintain a small 3-doc practice but he was older, no loans, and had quit delivering babies as that was the highest risk for insurance. Told me at my last appt with him in 2021 that once his youngest graduated college in 2022 he was OUT. Said between low reimbursement rates, high liability premiums, onerous paperwork and compliance costs, + the covid bs at the time, that the practice was hanging by a thread. All this to say, HC costs are out of control but the rank and file docs are not the ones getting rich. We need good docs to be well compensated, but in a way that is not lining the pockets of pharma and is tied to the actual CARE they provide.

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shayne's avatar

What I find interesting is that if NOT being vaccinated killed more people then wouldn't the death professionals, Gates, Fauci, mindless doctors, et al be telling people stay away from vaccines... but it's the exact opposite... so my conclusion is listen to what they say and do the exact opposite.

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Juju's avatar

This!!! They are not versed or experienced in consent and it takes time in the beginning when you’re learning how to provide that kind of care. If it can’t be done in the 6.3 minutes of allotted time their corporate overlords allow then it is considered outrageous expectations.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Because of liability immunity. Now they HAVE to explain everything because no more liability protection. If they, (doctors, Nurse Practitioners) were smart they “would let sleeping dogs lie”, explain what they feel comfortable with and drop the subject. Not many patients or parents want an immunology lesson when their kid is wailing!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

Pediatrician may go out of business without the jab bonuses

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shayne's avatar

The democrats can blame themselves for Trump's rise. Had they not stolen the 2020 elections, he may not have risen to this level of power. I find it amusing that all their machinations have resulted in the beginning of a whole new amazing possibilities.

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Carlos's avatar

By The Grace of Christ. Amen 🙏 Yeah

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yup. Thank you, Lord God, for the 2020 steal.

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Kimberly Bacon's avatar

My thoughts exactly

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william howard's avatar

be careful what you wish for or in this case steal

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Oh absolutely!

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Therefore, since the children share in flesh and blood, He Himself likewise also partook of the same, that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death, that is, the devil, and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.

— Hebrews 2:14-15 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

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Jamie's avatar

“that through death He might render powerless him who had the power of death” 🙌 Jesus has set us free from the power of sin and death.

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Hallelujah!

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Laureen's avatar

How are you feeling Janice?

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Feeling ok, thank you for asking, Laureen!

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Amen

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RunningLogic's avatar

—“and might free those who through fear of death were subject to slavery all their lives.”

This part is so relevant to what happened during Covid! The people who feared death allowed themselves to be manipulated into giving up all kinds of rights!

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I still see some fearful souls out and about wearing masks.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I do too, occasionally 😞

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

https://givesendgo.com/Theyallmustgo?utm_source=sharelink&utm_medium=copy_link&utm_campaign=Theyallmustgo

I donated to ice officer in MN who has now had to uproot his whole family to a military base. Unofficial c & c army donation.

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5hEdited

I’m saddened to see that the “wife” of the woman who interfered with an ice agent and was shot raised 1.5 million in two days, but this law abiding patriot can’t even get past 200k.

I hope more will help him, if anything to make a statement.

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Continued from Part 2: So what would that look like? What if your first thought in the morning wasn't, "What do I have to fix, but whose kingdom am I building today?"

The Sermon on the Mount, Excerpts from an Entrancing Analysis, Part 3 (Author Unknown)

What if your security wasn't measured by the size of your income, but by the certainty of his promises? And what if trust wasn't a feeling, but a choice renewed daily in the presence of a father who has never failed to provide?

You are not just seen. You are cared for. And the God who paints flowers and feeds sparrows has never once forgotten you. Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth. That's the warning in Matthew 6:1 19. Not because earthly treasures are inherently evil, but because they don't last. Moths eat, rust corrods, thieves break in, markets crash, health fails, and what once felt secure slips through our fingers. But Jesus isn't just pointing out the obvious. He's offering a deeper truth: Where your treasure is, there your heart will be also. Matthew 6 21. It's one of the most piercing lines in the entire sermon on the mount because it reveals that what we pursue reveals who we are.

Our heart always follows our treasure, never the other way around. And here's where the contrast becomes sharp. You cannot pursue the kingdom of God and the kingdom of self at the same time. Jesus drives this home in verse 24. No one can serve two masters. Either you will hate the one and love the other. You cannot serve both God and money. He doesn't say should not. He says cannot.

Because at some point one will shape your values, your time, your decisions, your soul. And this isn't just about wealth. It's about what we value most. The approval of others, the next purchase, the endless chase for just a little more. These things don't just distract us. They slowly disciple us into a version of ourselves that no longer resembles Christ.

But there's another way. Jesus invites us to invest in a different kind of treasure. The kind that doesn't wear out. the kind that isn't measured in dollars, but in faithfulness, in love, in mercy, in kingdom impact. Because every act of generosity, every moment of obedience, every decision to say yes to God instead of comfort, it all builds towards something eternal. And the beauty is the more we invest in heaven, the more our hearts long for it. The more we treasure God's kingdom, the more it becomes the place we feel most at home.

If someone looked at your treasure, what would they learn about your heart?

Continue in Part 2: https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/the-hard-way-saturday-january-10/comment/197898374

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Jamie's avatar

“You cannot pursue the kingdom of God and the kingdom of self at the same time.”

Exactly.

Seek First the kingdom of God…

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Jamison's avatar

If you pursue God first, you are actually doing what is best for yourself. Because…He wants what is best for you. So, aligning His will with yours is giving you the best life.

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Jamie's avatar

Indeed! I have found this to be true after years of searching in the wrong places…

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Lorita's avatar

I was just tossing and turning last night about "watering vineyards". God's word uses the term vineyards as talking about taking care of his children in Isaiah and elsewhere. But if we are to follow Jesus and be like him then maybe we too should water our vineyards. For example we should "water, bless, tend" our families first then water others as opportunities arise. When we water others first and leave our families untended what might we reap? I sometimes just need to give it up and let Holy Spirit inform me.

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Linda's avatar

Thank you. I needed this today.

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SD Scott's avatar

A disabled child can upend a family permanently. Yet doctors cannot spare five minutes to discuss jab safety testing. Mainly because it doesn’t exist!

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Emmel's avatar

Literally, the box inserts with safety information in the Covid vaccines were BLANK. A yard long slip of blank paper were what Dr’s used to provide informed consent.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

“We don’t deserve him,” Greg Gutfeld speaking about Trump.

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Asa Plinch's avatar

" . . . physicians might not have the time to address parents’ worries adequately.”

Not to mention that a physician might stand to lose $100,000+ in annual income if his/her patients opt against vaccination for their children.

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Becky's avatar

I think it was a doctor here in C&C comments who said that if doctors truly “informed” patients who were trying to understand vaccines before consenting to them, the doctors would have to spend two hours with the patient, going over many pages of information.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Then “they”, (whoever they are) have to stop incentivizing the paediatricians!

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Peter Schott's avatar

End of the UN era - long overdue. Of course, the global orgs are still out there trying to take any power they can, but man - so much overreach, fraud, and other nonsense. At least that's all slowly being exposed - even to those still watching MSNBC. :)

Saw someone citing Jack Smith as some expert on the J6 persecutions. They're still clinging heavily to the "insurrection" narrative and have too much TDS to ever see another side. Many claims of "I'm impartial" but too obviously they just hate Trump. Same ones who try to defend moms who try to run over ICE agents, sadly.

The shot schedule changes are quite welcome, though still don't go far enough. HPV should be nowhere on that list of shots still semi-approved, even if they dropped the doses. I think Midwestern Doc was noting that up until the mRNA shots, the HPV ones had been the worst out there for negative effects.

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Emmel's avatar

The next time someone spouts off about “insurrection!,”. Ask them how many J6’ers were convicted of insurrection, (0). And what those convicted were charged with. If they start sputtering feel free to refer to them as morons.

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Bill Lacey's avatar

I jump directly to "moron". Presenting them with facts doesn't work.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Ask them what is the difference between Ashli Babbitt and Renee Good, if you want to see someone twisting themselves into pretzels, and then imploding.

Mrs. RW

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Carrie's avatar

RFK Jr et al has made some good first steps, but there’s lots more to do. There are still too many vaccines on the childhood recommendation list. Zero being the ideal number. Hero Dr. Mary Talley Bowden has made some great strong statements regarding this.

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Jean V's avatar

I agree, but I'm optimistic that there's more to come. Once liability is removed for vaccines not on the schedule, those doctors will have to think twice about recommending every vaccine. I support mandatory doctor reeducation on vaccine liability and safety. It's going to be a gargantuan task to change indoctrinated minds.

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Aaron Smith's avatar

Be careful what you wish for as it will surely be funded by big pharma, one way or the other.

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Emmel's avatar

It should be funded by their liability insurers.

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CHop's avatar

Agree, but a slow rollback will prevent complete outrage and immediate tanking of pharma stocks which are held in many 401Ks and mutual funds.

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Vicki's avatar

The pediatric practice our NP daughter works for were not accepting religious exemptions (unconstitutionally) until the law recently forced them to. But they are still recommending the FULL vaccine schedule just nixed by HHS and refuse to treat kids that dont abide by that schedule. They're getting around the exemptions by only allowing NEW patients to claim them. For existing patients, THEY have decided that if vaccines were OK with them before, then any claim to a religious exemption must be fake. So in essence, they have made THEMSELVES gods and will determine the sincerity of exemption applicants. This is a large pediatric practice in Brevard County, Florida. You cannot make this stuff up!

Since physicians practice at the behest of Florida taxpayers, in that they are licensed to practice by the state.....we should seriously be considering removing licenses from those who will not help children unless they agree to be medically poisoned. Somehow, accountability needs to land at the foot of the perpetrator.

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Agreed ... But families who allow such such heavy handed pediatric treatment are free to take their business.

Meanwhile, with the dawning imposition of REAL science, the naked incontrovertible truth of vaxxing is increasingly visible ... and enforceable

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

... to take their business elsewhere

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CHop's avatar

It's not that easy. There are very few doctors who will all parents to skip vaccines. Not taking a child to regular doctor visits can trigger Child Protective Services being called on them despite the child being healthy.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes the CPS threat is real and frightening for parents in many places 😕

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Who said things are supposed to be easy?

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Once a vaccine is removed off the CDC schedule the practitioner no longer has immunity, to my understanding. They, (Paediatrician or NP) open themselves to liability for injuries, unless I’m misinterpreted US laws?

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Vicki's avatar

I believe you're correct. However, since most of what HHS cut out was extra dosages, leaving the same original vaccines.....THAT is what the practice is still recommending. I'm not sure if theyre still promoting HepB at birth. But I foresee potential lawsuits for sure! And in July, I think we will see the removal of many other vaccines as they begin to be tested with double blind placebos for the first time ever! Hope, hope, hope!

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

I can’t get too exercised about Powell. I mean it’s nice the DOJ is going after someone, anyone, who is perfidious to America, but couldn’t we start with really big slime balls like Fauci, or and one of the senatewhores who sell us out R or D, or pelosi for insider trading, or Walz or Frey for inciting violence and insurrection? I mean Powell is unknown to about 98% of the public. And 98% of the public will go meh if it even registers.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I got excited when I saw the headline about the FED being under investigation, only to learn it was for this.....disappointing, to say the least. Completely agree about Fauci or other perps that should be gone after hard. I'd rather see Fauci in a jail cell than Maduro.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

CECOT would be a nice vacation resort for Dr Fauci.

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TDawg's avatar

Believe it or not, ending the federal reserve and going back to money printed by treasury is in the Trump Agenda.

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Johnny-O's avatar

I will believe it when I see movement towards that. Same with 911 truth, covid justice, epstein, etc.

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Jacquijacq's avatar

And u read this morning that Rhino Senator Tillis says unless these charges are dropped he will block and and all Fed Judge nominees. What the heck is THAT about?

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LogicFirst's avatar

Tillis (R-NC) is worthless. Constituents here in NC are highly disappointed in his representation of our state in DC. There is a reason he isn’t running for reelection…he only has about a 25% approval rating here in the state. He would never win another statewide election.

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Juju's avatar

Looks like he’s going down with the ship, doing the most damage he can do on the way out

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Beckadee's avatar

Have you seen this re Dilworth United Methodist in Charlotte hosting training on how to be social activist re the immigration detainment. Beyond ridiculous. So glad my little Methodist church in my hometown left the UMC.

https://x.com/Protestia/status/2009955477460049967?s=20

It was led by these clowns. https://www.siembranc.org/

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Unwoke in Idaho's avatar

So they support child rapists, murderers, human traffickers, thieves and rapists. Good to know. Very Christlike. Although didn't Jesus say render unto Caesar what is Caesar's?

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Carolyn's avatar

Typical Tillis. No surprise

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Carolyn's avatar

Actually the fed and the big banks are in more control and more destructive to us..they are the big fish

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Steenroid's avatar

I agree. There are a lot worse people to prosecute than Powell. But it appears Bondi has no desire to go after them.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

True, it does appear that way, BUT I’m giving her the benefit of the doubt because something must be done to solve the corrupt judge problem first. Timing.

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Carolyn's avatar

Banks and the feds have been destroying America since at list 1913

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Steenroid's avatar

Yeah the markets aren’t down over Powell. It’s the fact DJT wants to cap CC interest at 10%. That terrifies them.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Start with the seemingly small and insignificant ones that lied and nail them for it. Now you've got precedence to point to when you're working on the bigger ones.

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Beckadee's avatar

They got to get the auto pen crap figured out first.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Hes trying to fire Powell. End around. Prosecute him for blatant crimes he did commit. Malfeasance gets the job done. It’s in the contract.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Bill Gates. He has the deaths of millions on his hands.

And the beauty of it is, he can be prosecuted for his activities with Epstein. Right now.

They don't have to wait until the Democrats are persuaded that the GMO injectables are death shots.

They are screaming about prosecuting those in the Epstein files. Okay, then prosecute Gates.

What is the Justice Dept waiting for?

Mrs. RW

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

"the Washington Post was urgently trying to stop the prosecution train, which is barreling along the tracks with its emergency brake snapped off. "

That made me grin wider than a Cheshire Cat. I'll have a little grinning with my winning this morning, if you please, Jeff.

😸😻

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Emumundo's avatar

First!

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shayne's avatar

Bravo!!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yay!! 😁 It is always fun to be the one to post the first comment!

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Jeff S's avatar

I actually dreamed I was first today, then woke up to find I was about an hour late.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Aww so disappointing!

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