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Roger Beal's avatar

So if the Demonrats take Congress back, and successfully halt the ongoing construction of the ballroom and the arch, won't that create "aesthetic distress"? Who wants to look at a stalled construction site for two years? If this happens, I'm a'gonna sue!!

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Just looking at most Democrats is "aesthetic distress", much less having to listen to them.

Beckadee's avatar

Exhibit A- Rosa DeLauro.

CStone's avatar

‘She’s’ a dude, isn’t she?

That’s gotta be a dude.

Beckadee's avatar

I'm not sure what the hell it is. I'm just glad it's far far away.

Beckadee's avatar

No that's one of Gloria Steinem’s stars.

Julinthecrown's avatar

You mean, Old Lady Goth?

Laura Z's avatar

Ugh! She's so disgusting looking;

Kmari's avatar

I would take a view of a barren traffic circle over the visage of MIA Maxine.

CeeMcG's avatar

Can California sue over the aesthetic distress of looking at our never-to-be-finished boondoggle known as high speed rail? 👍🏻

Julinthecrown's avatar

I just mentioned this to my son yesterday about the billions spent with no result!

This is from the U.S. Senate Committee on Commerce, Science & Transportation 0 February 5, 2026 --

"After more than a quarter of a century and $6.8 billion in awarded federal funds, not a single high-speed train is operational in California." 🤨

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

This transit rail fetish needs to end! NOW! Let Seattle be the cautionary tale: tens of billions over budget and years behind schedule. Un-elected, unaccountable, board with taxing power! (Unconstitutional much?) Fare revenue does not even come close to covering operating costs, let alone construction costs! TPTB have just decided to install fare gates at some stations but won't be done with that until 2030 (projected)! California's "bullet train" is a text book sunk cost fallacy. Kill it, chop it up, burn the pieces, and salt the ground where the ashes are scattered so it can't grow back. You might say I have strong feelings about this.

Silent scorn's avatar

I’d say yes. I only saw a photograph of the ‘California end of the line’ and I’ve been depressed ever since.

DaveL's avatar

High speed rail—it’s the same as huge wall across the countryside. Ask the French!

Skenny's avatar

The inevitible next chapter in leftist lawfare is here: "hurt feelings" is now a basis for filing lawsuits.

David Clark's avatar

Your comment reminded me about this wonderful song by Flight of the Conchords.

https://youtu.be/yjfSZu246zE?is=Qx1Cn2uIF6MZanii

Silent scorn's avatar

Omg thanks for that!! So funny, I’d never seen them!

Grandma Bear's avatar

Thanks for a wonderful laugh!

Pat Wetzel's avatar

This whole thing is beyond ridiculous. It's like having a young man hit a button and send a nuke flying. The excuse: "I was having a testosterone surge and I just had to blow up something." Spare me the hormone defense. Some things are just wrong.

WP William's avatar

They'd prefer a "people's" flop house-needle exchange venue to a "ballroom for oligarchs"

Phil Denter's avatar

Of course "No" to both is a valid opinion.

Marcus's avatar

It is clearly just their ridiculous resistance agenda. No matter what Trump does, good or bad they sue. It has been said that if Trump said oxygen was good for you, they would put a plastic bag over their heads and suffocate themselves. I honestly believe some of them would. Look what happened when he said that Tylenol is not good for pregnant women. There was a run of clips and reels of pregnant women taking Tylenol just to resist Trumps advice. We are all in very deep trouble if the dem get Congress back. Absolutely nothing will be accomplished, and we will have simply watch the left do everything possible to take Trump down and reverse everything he has accomplished.

Richard Klamm's avatar

I’m weary of these nonstop lawsuits, but it seems to be a symptom of society. There is no longer a discussion just the knee jerk reaction is to sue. A common car accident, the parties don’t just exchange insurance information and file an accident report with police, more likely than not it escalates. Lawyers (sorry Jeff) scour accident reports to flood the parties with promises of financial windfall if they will just retain them to file suit.

Please just stop, pick up the phone, schedule a meeting and have a conversation. Get a life and try to be pleasant. We are only here for a short time use it wisely. Leave a legacy not destruction.

Willing Spirit's avatar

If people could recognize the harm they do to themselves with these unnecessary hostile actions…

Pat Wetzel's avatar

What goes around, comes around. Sometimes it's fun to watch the wheel of karma do its thing.

Help Needed in KS's avatar

"It has been said that if Trump said oxygen was good for you, they would put a plastic bag over their heads and suffocate themselves."

Oh so many inappropriate comments...so little time.

Willing Spirit's avatar

“It has been said that if Trump said oxygen was good for you, they would put a plastic bag over their heads and suffocate themselves.”

Definitely an idea that needs testing!

Grandma Bear's avatar

"Absolutely nothing will be accomplished" would be the best case scenario if they take Congress back, I fear.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

To the Arlington Arch build, I have one word for The Commander-in-Chief (for Portlanders that’s the President of the USA):

BRAVO!!

Its an exceptionally beautifully designed Arch at exactly the perfect place where it will best honor those who served, sacrificed, and so many who paid the ultimate sacrifice over 250+ years for our country. Magnificent, thank you Mr President!

Teresa Carstensen's avatar

If the complainers' suit wins...sue THEM for YOUR "aesthetic injury" ...having lost out on such a beautiful monument sight.

Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I was in the Army for 34 years, Im honored that the President is building a beautiful arch in honor of the country's 250th birthday while also honoring the Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen of the country.

The three Vietnam vets suing? TERMINAL TDS. PERIOD. FULL STOP.

william howard's avatar

you mean like every 3rd. world country - what the dems hope to turn the country to

Debra Nolasco's avatar

Unfortunately, it won't cause the Democrats any aesthetic distress. They themselves are aesthetically challenged. All you have to is look at them. Many, if not most, are downright scary-looking. They are accustomed to it. It is the rest of us who will suffer, which is likely their intent.

Leskunque Lepew's avatar

You'll have "standing"...

YourGalapagosGullfriend's avatar

I'm very curious about who is paying the attorney fees for the immigrants that visit Karla Navarette's firm (and who is funding her as well.)

Juju's avatar

No doubt our tax dollars has been paying those attorneys, funneled through various NGOs that offer pro bono services to illegals but pay their attorneys handsomely.

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

We are always paying for everything and I am sick of it!!!!

shayne's avatar

I reckon some clawing back of funds is in order....

Peace's avatar

They have to find the lawyer first - she is likely long gone and in hiding with her half a billion in taxpayer money.

shayne's avatar

Would be great if they can trace her grifted funds. I don't hold out hope. She's only one of many thousands who've ripped off the American people.

D&R’s Gma's avatar

My thoughts exactly! Follow the money 💰 we know that the immigrants aren’t able to pony up said $15k. 💰💰💰💰

Willing Spirit's avatar

Especially after paying that or more to coyotes to bring them in. American taxpayer money in both cases without a doubt. I’m so glad that after all the decades of insanity, we finally have an administration working to fix eliminate it.

Lori's avatar

I wonder if she came to America illegally and we paid for her to be a lawyer.

Putting illegals before Americans, what a bitch she is.

Hawk's avatar

I had the same questions. NGOs involved somehow, no doubt. We paid for those nails and tats also. God help me, I loathe this kind of blatant grifting.

William Bogert's avatar

Not to mention the pink private jet.....

Wise Old Woman in the Woods's avatar

The parents of an acquaintance came to CA illegally and then took the steps to become legal. He initially bristled at the crackdowns but then realized that many who complain might spend vast sums on their daughters quinceanera but not on legal services to become legal.

WP William's avatar

Certainly NOT some wealthy benefactor using his/her own foundation's cash.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Trump pardons wipe nearly $2 billion in victim repayment and taxpayer recovery for Medicare and tax fraud, and more | Governor of California https://share.google/JPESl552PUtRxY9RH

Steve Stevens's avatar

Trump gives MAGA a bad name.

Critical Thinker's avatar

oh STFU you lame-ass troll....

Elaine Russky's avatar

How much would it have cost to support their prison terms?

Stephen Morgan's avatar

Well, other aid isn't coming from USAID!

Elaine Russky's avatar

Profits from fentanyl sales.

Sunnydaze's avatar

My special needs adult daughter receives companion/care giving services through a pilot program the state of Florida just started in the last two years. Hat tip to Florida (DeSantis?) who previously offered nothing but a 25,000 person waitlist for any help. Hmm. Wonder why? That’s a topic for another day….

Fast forward to my conversation with the agency that provides companion/caregivers…..she has lost a client (person with disabilities) due to deportation (deportation word not used….just words like “the administration”and “fear”. The family has apparently disappeared. Because of what “the administration is doing”.

She thought I would be a sympathetic ear. She was wrong.

I applaud the federal govt for finally upholding the law and deporting people here illegally. My heart goes out to the family caring for a special needs adult child - more than words can express. I REALLY REALLY get it. But, our tax dollars are paying for the “help” given to illegal families/people -that it took us- law abiding and tax paying CITIZENS -6 years to get in Florida.

For any who think this is a heartless view….you haven’t walked in our shoes caring for a special needs child/adult without help. I do think that illegal family should have help. They NEED help. From the country they are legally from. If I went to another country illegally and expected them to provide help financial or caregiver…they would laugh me out of their country.

There has to be a balance but the USA isn’t the bad guy here.

God loves those special needs people from other countries. My heart weeps with them and for them. But how many Americans are not receiving help because the illegal people are up at the top of their waitlist while the families paying the tax money get no help. THAT has to stop.

Our family is very thankful for even the little bit of help we do get.

Juju's avatar
Sep 4Edited

My son waited three long years to get SSDI benefits despite 20 years of full documentation of his disabilities and treatment, AND a current (at that time) neuro-psych eval that concluded he was totally disabled. The state disregarded it all and required their own psychiatrist to evaluate him. So 50 minutes with one man trumped 20 years of specialists. Thankfully their psychiatrist concurred with our records. Still he was denied twice after that. During those three years our state was paying illegals over $3800/mo with ease. The minute Trump took office, a month later my son was finally approved, for 1/3 what illegals are paid. I’m unsure how his election impacted it, but clearly it did and people were scrambling to CYA.

(We are thankful for the 1/3, as any and all help is impactful for him, and we don’t protest for more. Of course he lives with us so we help as much as we can. My heart feels for those with no family to help. They can’t survive on his benefits.)

Sunnydaze's avatar

You raise ANOTHER important issue - WHY were they fighting so hard to keep your very well documented son from getting help? I guarantee it was because the money going out was going to illegals and fraud. Therefore the phrase we heard over and over again- “sorry. No funding”. BS!

We know where the funding was actually going.

And you are correct - CYA! That’s what they did as soon as Trump took office. Better hurry and get more citizens on the list we are giving help to. 😡

Illegals and fraudsters getting cut off from food stamps and Medicaid monies - I applaud it! Maybe NOW our own tax paying citizens can get the help they are supposed to get with their own tax dollars. Isn’t that supposed to be the benefit of letting them steal our hard earned money for - taxes?

Matt L.'s avatar

Sunnydaze, I volunteer annually at a summer camp (kitchen) for severely disabled kids and their families. Like 75 to 150 people per camp. They get 3 days to experience mountains, s’more’s, campfire singing, boat and pony rides. It’s funded 100% by private donors. I stand in awe of the parents who patiently care for these children who are Gods’ precious gifts. This experience reminds me to be grateful for what I have, and fills me with satisfaction for serving others. Who I know (but can’t experience 1st hand) have a much, much tougher day to day than I do. I only get a peek at their struggles while they are on ‘vacation’. I can recollect in my mind from this summer stint, the Down’s child, coming to find her Dad, grabbing his hand and the huge smile on Dad’s face as he looked down, scooped her up and hugged and kissed her face. This images stay with me. And I think it’s God reminding me that every single human life is valued and precious to Him.

Leo Woman's avatar

As the mother of a delightful and very beloved son with Down syndrome, it sickens me to no end that babies with Down syndrome are among the most aborted.

Matt L.'s avatar

I grew up with my Mom running daycare and she cared over years for several kids with Downs. This was in 1980’s. We still know those kids now grown up. Before my Mom passed, she would go pick up and drive adults with Downs back and forth to Catholic Mass. I’ve been around these magic humans my whole life and appreciate them very much. I think I am in part a ‘hugger’ because of them ;)

Countries like Iceland make me sick. They no longer have Downs children because prenatal testing detects them and all are aborted.

AJF's avatar

And Bless you Matt for volunteering 🙏🏻

Matt L.'s avatar

Thank you. It is literally the highlight of my year. I’m simply following Jesus’ call on my heart.

Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you! For volunteering to help in that way. It sounds amazing!!! We have never been to anything like that before. Wonderful to hear that private donors are stepping up in that way. My husband and I often say we wish we were wealthy because we would do something like that or something to offer families respite of some sort free of charge so they can recharge.

Our daughter is simply the best. She is innocent and kind and compassionate. She is funny and makes us laugh and we can’t imagine life without her. We are better humans because of her. The Lord has been our rock at getting us through this. He has provided in ways no govt agency could do. Fortunately, we don’t rely on govt assistance, but grateful for the help we do get - the companion/caregiver pilot program has been good for HER to gain some independence from me. This life is very hard. Mentally, physically and financially. I wouldn’t wish it on any parents or family.

Thanks be to people like you who volunteer your time to help families like us. 💜

Matt L.'s avatar

Here is the camp website. You may enjoy some of the testimonial from campers, too, in their own words.

https://campprimetime.org/

Camp Prime Time (in Central Washington State) cascades has been going since 1986. Outside of my church, this is who I donate $ to the most every year. It was started by Dad’s of disabled kids who wanted to bring the joy of outdoors to other children like theirs.

My hope is this kind of camp can be replicated in other parts of America. Maybe it already is and I just don’t know of them. I think they are around in many different States.

I hear you about the physical, emotional, and even spiritual toll that caring for a special needs child and adult requires. Camp Prime Time offers a small respite from all that burden. And every family there knows 1st hand the situation of the others. So, meltdowns and outbursts are normal and handled with patience and grace. God bless you.

Sunnydaze's avatar

I look forward to reading these. Thank you!

We are originally from Oregon. Very familiar with the outdoors in the PNW. That is awesome! We were part of a non profit before moving to Florida 6 yrs ago for my husbands job. It provided my daughter with community inclusion and activities with her friends with special needs 5 days a week. It was a huge help and so great for these young adults. Until the state of Oregon started dictating what they could and couldn’t do. What started as a group so they could all hang out with their friends like other young adults do…turned into the state secluding them all to 1:1 with no group activities and no hanging out with their friends. So much so they couldn’t even go the mall and eat lunch together in a group. It made us furious. The non profit still exists but barely hs any participants anymore for what we hear. It’s not what its mission statement was when it started. Thanks for the state of Oregon bureaucrats and politics. Shame on them.

Lori's avatar

They are the reason for the 25K waiting list. They all need to be gone, regardless of the circumstances. We have Americans that need help so fuc* the illegals.

Susan Seas's avatar

A friend of mine was kicked off of WIC during the summer/harvest seasons due to the number of “migrants” . Illegals over Americans. Unbelievable!!

Sunnydaze's avatar

I can’t “like” this. But it’s true and wrong and needs to stop.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

And He came and preached peace to you who were far away, and peace to those who were near; for through Him we both have our access in one Spirit to the Father.

— Ephesians 2:17-18 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

Roger Beal's avatar

Good morning ... you're a tad late today. I was wondering where you were!

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

🥱😴I had a book table at our outdoor community event last night here in sweltering Oklahoma. By the time it wasn’t miserably hot, it was getting too dark to see. I left early and collapsed into bed in the glorious 69 degrees of my house, and I told myself I was going to sleep as long as I wanted. I’m not done yet. That’s my story and I’m sticking with it. 😀

Quiltlady's avatar

Sometimes we need to make hard choices to keep our bodies healthy, so that we can continue to serve the Lord as he has called us to serve Him.

Joyce munro's avatar

Well I am in Calgary Ab and it sure is not warm here ! Despite our cold and clouds they are up there spraying more & more crap into our already grey skies 😢💔

God Bless America's avatar

Hey Ms. Janice… It’s great to hear from you. I have your book on my table. 😊Prayers and blessings 🙏🏽✝️🙏🏽🥰

And I’m gonna show this to my husband because I want to put my thermostat on 69°… 🤔😁😁😁 My 72° at night makes me sweat all night long. Hormones are a delightful thing are they not?! 😑

Thank you, God, in heaven above for air conditioning… 🙏🏽🙏🏽🙏🏽

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Whenever I go out of town without him, he turns it up to 72. Bless him. When we were going to move my mom in with us back in 2018, he came in the living room in a hoodie and said, "Your mom is going to freeze to death in this house." haha.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Thank you for telling me about the book. I like to imagine it in people's homes.

Steenroid's avatar

Well the Libtards idea of a beautiful monument is the Obama Library. Nuff said.

WP William's avatar

If not resisted, imprisoned, and/or banished, The Commies will one day be blowing monuments and Border Walls to pieces, tearing down statues, and burning churches, Bibles, and other "Hate Literature" as they "fundamentally transform America into what it should have always been"

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

And killing all who disagree. Or trying to. I have a God given right to defend myself and I will to my dying breath .

WP William's avatar

yes, the "Culture War" is indeed TRULY a WAR, and the lifeblood of individuals being a part of the arsenal and battlefield as much as one's mind and will, property, family, Liberty, culture and heritage. Jesus the Liberation-Socialist, Shakespeare the Climate Activist, Hamilton & Lincoln the archetypes of Transformation & Queerness (as the Obama-apologists assert). The accusatory, Leftist Enemy knows full well to hijack and redefine everything as the erosive yet progressive flow of human history carries forward to the fated triumph of Globalist Communism Apocalypse for the final generation of mankind.

Philip Inskip's avatar

Oh, come on, William. Don't you know Lenin, Uncle Joe Stalin, Chairman Mao, Pol Pot created earthly paradises for us proletariats? Sure, in their cases, some proletariats are more equal than others, but for the rest of us Great Unwashed Downtrodden Masses, mass murder of many millions is good for all of us. They all wanted the best for us. Gulags, mass executions and starvation; just good, clean fun.

William Bogert's avatar

Stay locked and loaded. There's nut jobs on every corner.

Debra's avatar

That was the first monstrosity I thought of! U.G.L.Y. just like Obama.

Cousin Clem's avatar

Well, it the library is an eyesore but it was privately funded as opposed to this arch that no one really needed in the first place.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

It wasn’t funded. Obama failed to pay. So tte guys that built it, supplied the materials, dealt with that ridiculous negro, didn’t get paid. They did it for free. But whatever.

Keith Washington's avatar

Don’t forget he is half white. That is his evil side. His black half is pure and without blame.

Critical Thinker's avatar

Your troll game is weak...

Steenroid's avatar

Now do the ballroom that’s also privately funded. And the arch won’t be an ugly POS like Obama and his library.

Teresa Parmenter's avatar

I think the Arch will be beautiful ♥️🙏🏻

Jan's avatar

His carefully curated library that does not allow any record searches that might hurt His Lordship’s carefully curated record.

Ellen Batchelor's avatar

I'm so sick of people trying to stop Trump from beautifying DC and from making it safer.

Some of these same people likely talk about the beautiful streets and monuments in Europe. Don't we deserve the same in our beautiful county that everyone in the world seems to want to immigrate to, whether legally or illegally?

D&R’s Gma's avatar

👌👏 well said! 🫶🇺🇸🫶 make America beautiful again 🫶🇺🇸🫶

Margot Wooster's avatar

If any Democrat president did the same things, they would all love it.

SB's avatar

They’re certainly the same people who tore beautiful monuments already. I guess they really don’t like beautiful monuments unless it’s Martin Luther king, gays and trans?

Steve Stevens's avatar

We’re $40 trillion in debt! We can’t afford beautification projects!

SHug's avatar

"privately funded" means there are not taxpayer dollars going to it.

Steve Stevens's avatar

Originally that’s what he said but apparently that has changed.

“ Trump Will Fund New Archway With $15 Million From the National Endowment for the Humanities”

https://www.notus.org/donald-trump/trump-arch-taxpayer-funds

Bard Joseph's avatar

We are so poor to fix our infrastructure and endless wars, eugenics, genocide. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.

westbound's avatar

Peel back the thin veneer of the vanity projects and an evil, foul smelling core is revealed. Grow up. You are embarrassingly naive as to what is goes on.

Richard Whitney's avatar

I went to Washington, DC and was embarrassed. Really? The capitol of our country and we can't even make it look habitable? There were homeless people panhandling everywhere, and the trash was piled up.

I thought of the visitors from other countries coming here and walking the filthy streets of Washington, DC, and I wanted it to be improved.

It never occurred to me that what this devastated wasteland needed was an arch, though. I was thinking more of housing to tuck away the homeless. Perhaps some trash collectors to pick up trash, or maybe teach the residents to use the trash cans.

But as I understand it, Paris is just as horrendous now, and London is also.

Mrs. RW

Richard Whitney's avatar

It's funny that we remember events as pre and post covid in our house, and covid doesn't seem that long ago, but it's already been 6 years.

We said "pre-covid" in front of a younger friend the other day, and he smirked.

The young'uns don't experience time as going as fast as we do.

Mrs. RW

Richard Whitney's avatar

Pre-covid, but I don't remember the year.

Mrs. RW

Bard Joseph's avatar

Arlington is perfect to mark the endless wars and patriots as cannon fodder.

David Eldon Wood's avatar

Reptiles and lawyers, the latter do not come up for air. Jeff, you are hilarious today.

Justin's avatar

" I can confidently say that most adults who discovered a cottonmouth in their headgear would retire from football, helmets, grass, Arkansas, and the great outdoors."

And buy a new package of underwear.

FTFY

James's avatar

Q: What’s the difference between a skunk lying in the middle of the road and a lawyer lying there?

A: Skid marks

DaveL's avatar

The lawyer fell off the ship, but the sharks wouldn’t eat him. Why?

Professional courtesy.

David Clark's avatar

How are lawyers and a sperm cell similar? They both have one in a million chance of becoming a human.

I am not your Other's avatar

“The kids are on their own.” lol

FloridaTransplant's avatar

#TrumpAdmin counting on a breakthrough on “agency capture”

“My eyes have been thrown wide open in terms of the capture and corruption of not just our federal health agencies. I would say every agency, every department of the federal government is captured by the very businesses and interests that they were designed to regulate.” Senator Ron Johnson (R-WI) 9/1/2026

FloridaTransplant's avatar

Think about how many federal government employees have been terminated, how many government agencies have been shut down since Trump 2.0. Remember all of the hand ringing and pearl clutching. And now notice that literally nothing in our lives changed. I should stop there But I cannot:

I am of the opinion, that you could slash 75% of the US federal government, shuttering agencies and bulldozing their office buildings, and none of us out here in the real world would be impacted or notice. Every government employee, and every government agency write regulations that encroach on our freedoms. If I were King, the layoffs and shuttering of government agencies would be reported as a “cruel and horrifying.” And a year later, nobody would notice or remember. The most useless of useless functions in our world today is a federal government agency. The exceptions are few and far between and with a scalpel, ax, or blow torch, you could not cut enough to find bone.

William Bogert's avatar

I would like this a million times if I could.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

I feel like I just found a lost member of my TRIBE!!! Thank you for the kind words. I was on a bit of a rant there…

Johnny-O's avatar

When the first regulatory agency was created during the worst excess of abuses against RR workers in the late 1800s, Clevelands AG said something to the effect of making the public believe that a great deal was about to be done to qualm these concerns, when in reality, very little was intended to be done.

Regulatory agencies legalize harm.

Critical Thinker's avatar

One of us is off our meds cuz I had to LIKE one of your posts for the first time, lol

KC's avatar

People scream about “the government” and do not realize it is the corporations that are the true enemy. Zombies who live forever on paper and whose speech is money.

Skenny's avatar

The government enables the corporations: what they called "too big to fail," was really "not so big that we can't fleece the middle class to pay the losses incurred by our gambling."

... just one example of hundreds of billions in wealth transfer.

FloridaTransplant's avatar

I agree with some of your sentiment. But disagree that they’re zombies. They fail and can go out of business if they displease customers or shareholders. Government agencies never fail, even when they have clearly demonstrated their incompetence and worthlessness. Only since Trump 2.0 have we seen a government agency defunded and the entire place sent out to pasture.

The Office of Technology Assessment in 1995–96 is the strongest relatively recent precedent. Closed. DOA.

If you impose a stricter test — agency abolished + essentially everyone terminated + functions not simply moved wholesale into another federal agency — the list becomes extremely short. Most historical “abolitions” of federal agencies were actually reorganizations in which the boxes on the organizational chart disappeared while much of the bureaucracy survived somewhere else.

However, the world is littered with companies who failed and shut down. Government agencies are the zombies. Not private companies. Private companies can suck and have outsized influence with their political speech, agreed. But they’re not the danger.

JasonT's avatar

Corporations are a product of government and are used by government to subjugate the citizens. Government remains the problem.

Peace's avatar

The corporations enforcing "vaccine mandates" during C-vid is testament to this - corporations are "used by government to subjugate the citizens."

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Reddington is a ghoul. He has doxxed the holdout jurist as one of the three men. Declare a mistrial and disbar him.

AM Schimberg's avatar

The whole thing has been disgustingly disheartening to say the least and I wish I never had heard about it. But you are of course correct!

Cynthia's avatar

Very disheartening. I have never been as repulsed by and disgusted with women as I am now watching everything surrounding this Clancy trial.

Jan's avatar

I have been so off corporate and social media (6 years now) that I didn’t know about it at all. But now I know. Sorry I do.

Freedom Fox's avatar

"Doctors and hospitals have a lot of work to do to rebuild trust, and as far as I can tell, they haven’t admitted it yet. The central hurdle is humility. They could start by admitting they were wrong."

A history lesson is needed here:

Why did so many German doctors join the Nazi Party early?

International Journal of Law and Psychiatry, October 3, 2012

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0160252712000854

(Sci-hub allows view behind academic paywalls. This article used to be visible on browser but may need to download as .pdf now)

https://sci-hub.su/10.1016/j.ijlp.2012.09.022 )

"During the Weimar Republic in the mid-twentieth century, more than half of all German physicians became early joiners of the Nazi Party, surpassing the party enrollments of all other professions. From early on, the German Medical Society played the most instrumental role in the Nazi medical program, beginning with the marginalization of Jewish physicians, proceeding to coerced “experimentation,” “euthanization,” and sterilization, and culminating in genocide via the medicalization of mass murder of Jews and others caricatured and demonized by Nazi ideology. Given the medical oath to “do no harm,” many postwar ethical analyses have strained to make sense of these seemingly paradoxical atrocities. Why did physicians act in such a manner? Yet few have tried to explain the self-selected Nazi enrollment of such an overwhelming proportion of the German Medical Society in the first place."

FF - Doctors. Medicine. Health. Public Health. Crimes Against Humanity ALWAYS start with the doctors, under the auspices of "public health." May they NEVER be given our trust again!! They do not deserve it. They've proven they cannot be trusted. F the g-damned evil bastards in white coats!

Find a natural healer instead.

Lori's avatar

I for one will never trust any of them again.

shayne's avatar

Absolutely, Lori! Screw them all.

Freedom Fox's avatar

And, for real, what's with the whole, "following doctor's orders" thing we've all been indoctrinated with since our first visit to the doctor we remember?

Follow orders? Wtf?!! When did the white coats become my superior I have to obey?!?! I didn't sign up for that. But they put a whole lot of thought, energy, time and money making sure the masses think that about doctors, that we have to follow their orders? For our own good, is the insinuation. When the reality is usually for some 'greater good' that other untrustworthy sorts doctors follow the orders of say it is. Utilitarian, hierarchical, authoritarian obedience medical system. Politicians say so, medical boards, associations say so, hospitals and insurers say so, doctors say so.

We're supposed to obey, just like everyone above in that chain of command. Nah. Hard pass.

Kim's avatar

The German doctors were performing abortions 20 years before these atrocities happened. When a society kills the most innocent and weakest among them, this downgrading of human worth if left unchecked always leads to the above issues. We should not be surprised by what has transpired in the medical field here in the US. There is nothing new under the sun.

Freedom Fox's avatar

This piece in Catholic Culture focuses on the Nazi's treatment of the handicapped and disabled using the medical profession. The history of euthanasia in Germany prior to Nazi rule that was expanded to....execution. It also shares that political opponents and dissidents [Note: That would be readers of Covid & Coffee], non-conformists, the disobedient, etc were often declared mentally ill, dangerous antisocials, and met the same fate as others with disabilities...and Jews and gypsies. All deemed undesirable by eugenicists. It is long, two parts, I'll put them in comments below. When you read it the parallels to our world, especially since March, 2020 are unmistakable.

Useless Eaters: Disability as Genocidal Marker in Nazi Germany

Catholic Culture, 2002

https://www.catholicculture.org/culture/library/view.cfm?recnum=7019

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"Second, because many of those with disabilities were now more visible through outpatient programs, their infirmities and their sometimes inappropriate or undesirable behavior were often considered a threat to public decency and social order. Accordingly, inappropriate public behavior by people with disabilities was often dealt with in terms of legal action and through the criminal justice system, thus melding disability and criminality in the public mind. Professional and public debate had raised the imperative of social control to prevent the proliferation of asylum inmates, including those with disabilities, whose characteristic behaviors were now firmly perceived to be at best undesirable and at worst criminal.

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It was at this point that the seeds of genocide were sown among professionals and ordinary German citizens alike. The juxtaposition of severe economic constraints, crowded asylums, the attachment of levels of economic viability to human worth, and the sense that people with disabilities formed a burdensome and often criminal element in society all significantly added fuel to ethical debates concerning euthanasia and sterilization. By the late 1930s, there was open discussion among many asylum administrators about actually killing inmates.

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However, in the 1890s the meaning of euthanasia in Europe, and especially in Germany, came to include two other aspects. First, the notion of a voluntary "right to die" was extended to mean that in some instances the request for euthanasia could be made by persons other than the suffering patient. Second, the extraordinary levels of care accorded the terminally ill and asylum inmates again raised the issue of negative human worth and underlined the possibility of involuntary euthanasia

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The distinction between voluntary euthanasia and involuntary killing was thus effectively eradicated, and an ominous term was coined for the first time: "life unworthy of life."

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By the early 20th century, scientists had amassed a great deal of pseudodata portending to show differences between individuals, genders, and ethnic groups by rank ordering any population trait from superior to inferior.

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In addition, levels of socially appropriate behavior (law-abiding, self-regulating, restrained, and conformist) were judged superior to socially inappropriate behavior (criminality or antisocial behavior. These and other classifications soon precipitated both informal social changes and more formal legal measures.

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Second, an offshoot of Darwinism, Social Darwinism, held that not only biological traits but also social characteristics and their resultant behaviors were genetically determined. Social Darwinism's ideas of difference, therefore, in the form of eugenics, appeared to have immediate and effective application for a number of societal problems, such as "hereditary" social traits (e.g., socially inappropriate or criminal behavior). Here the rationale was simple: All visible traits of human difference were genetically determined. Thus, just as eye and hair color were genetically determined, so were drunkenness, sexual promiscuity, and other socially inappropriate behaviors. A simple extension of these perceptions led to the idea that an effective way of controlling or eliminating these problems was by sterilization, incarceration, or death.

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Eugenics captured the imagination of researchers in Europe, England, and the United States. In the United States, politicians purportedly promoting the public good were quick to recognize eugenics as a powerful tool for shaping public opinion against people with disabilities. Such awareness fueled laws in many states for the involuntary sterilization of people with disabilities, the most famous case perhaps being that of a Virginia woman with mental retardation. Carrie Buck, named in the 1927 landmark Buck v. Bell case [Still US settled law today, in 2023, upheld as recently as 2003]

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Thus, eugenics asserted that the "feebleminded" (a generic, inaccurate term covering everything from mental retardation to alcoholism) were almost always so because of inherited inferior characteristics. From these assumptions, they "saw the cause of the social problems of their times, such as alcoholism and prostitution, as inherited feeblemindedness, and viewed the manifestations of poverty, such as intermittent employment and chronic illness, as a hereditary degeneracy"

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Also in 1933, the Nazis enacted the Law Against Dangerous Habitual Criminals, a law that further blurred the distinction between bona fide criminal behavior and inappropriate social behavior that characterized many people with disabilities. The law stipulated that these criminal asozialen (asocials) could be committed to state asylums, held in indeterminate protective custody, and, in the case of sex offenders, officially castrated

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Hitler understood that state-sanctioned homicide would depend on other factors to severely curb public outrage until war became reality. The war, Hitler reasoned, would provide both a distraction and an excuse for officially killing those deemed undesirable. One such factor was the use of propaganda to convince the public of the desirability of some lives over others.

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To this point, Nazi involvement with mercy killing, while implicit, appears to have been muted and uninitiated by the state. However, social perceptions of disability had been radically modified, and requests for mercy deaths were increasing and were generally viewed as more acceptable, whether conducted by individual citizens or the state. Essentially, disability was widely acknowledged to be a legitimate justification for murder.

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Ironically, 1939 was the year designated by the Nazis as the year of "the duty to be healthy". The children's killing program was to report directly to Hitler's Chancellery through a front organization under the pseudoscientific moniker of the Committee for the Scientific Treatment of Severe, Genetically Determined Illnesses. However, this impressive title belied its function, as it was headed by Hans Hefelmann, an agricultural economist. On August 18, 1939, prior to the German invasion of Poland, which began World War II, this committee produced a secret report, disseminated to all state governments, requiring all midwives and physicians who delivered infants with obvious congenital disabilities to register these children and the nature of the disability

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As added incentives, midwives were paid for every infant with disabilities so referred. Failure to report these cases resulted in substantial fines. This directive would also later require teachers to report these disabilities among their students in schools.

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Information on the registered children was returned to the Reich Health Ministry in Berlin, where a panel of three professionals — physicians, psychiatrists, or a disparate array of related professionals (such as ophthalmologists) — sorted the children's records into three groups....Children in the third group, designated by a plus sign on their records, were identified for "treatment", "disinfection," "cleaning," "therapy", or "selection", all Nazi euphemisms for extermination.

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Those designated for extermination were transferred to one of 28 facilities, among them several of Germany's oldest and most respected hospitals, where they were housed in specially designated killing wards. The Nazi authorities took great care to inform parents that their children would be safe in special wards at the clinics, which would "provide all available therapeutic interventions made possible by recent scientific discoveries". These assurances were always given with the caveat that such endeavors were also fraught with mortal risks.

There is little doubt that hospital staff were complicit in these endeavors.

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(2/2)

The methods of killing at the institutions varied. In some instances, children were simply starved to death, which was not considered ideal because it took too long. However, starvation did allow these murders less chance of detection. Other methods included allowing children to die of exposure in the cold German winters by turning off all heat in the institution. At several asylums, children perished after being administered chemical warfare agents. A more grisly approach involved a method reserved for children who were resistant to other poisons or, because of their disability, were unable to swallow the poison in pill form: fatal injections directly into the heart. The most popular lethal drug was Luminal, a barbiturate, closely followed by morphine for children resistant to the Luminal. These were usually administered in pill or liquid form. The genius of this form of homicide was the normally expected availability of these medications in hospitals. Also, some poisons killed indirectly over short periods of time by precipitating fatal medical complications that were then reported as natural causes of death. There is evidence that physicians exchanged information about the efficacy of various medications when they visited each other's institutions or met at the Reich Ministry of Health in Berlin.

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The murder of the children also followed a particular administrative and logistical course. As the condition of the child deteriorated following the fatal dose, the parents would be informed that their child was seriously ill, with a quick follow-up via a standardized letter announcing the child's death before parents could arrange to visit their sick child. This letter always noted that the child had died suddenly and unexpectedly of one of a number of diseases. Popular choices included brain edema and appendicitis. The favorite cause of death, however, proved to be communicable disease, which necessitated immediate cremation to avoid the danger of an institutional epidemic.

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In this action, patients from several asylums were rounded up, taken to nearby woods, and individually shot in the back of the head. Between 1939 and 1944, almost 13,000 Polish psychiatric patients were killed in this way. However, in such instances, it quickly became evident that the perpetrators' close proximity to the resulting gore exacted a heavy psychological toll that could be reduced only by using less grisly methods.

The logistical necessities involved in killing large numbers of asylum inmates were also problematic within Germany itself.

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A human experiment on the effectiveness of the gas was conducted in January 1940. A number of senior officials responsible for Aktion T-4, including many asylum directors and several others who would later make their names infamous at Auschwitz, gathered at a defunct prison near Berlin. Approximately 20 naked asylum inmates were herded into a prototypical gas chamber by psychiatric nurses. The enthusiastic onlookers watched closely as the inmates died from carbon monoxide poisoning. Eight further inmates were administered lethal injections, but when the poison had little immediate effect, these inmates were gassed as well. Buoyed by the dreadful success he had just witnessed, Viktor Brack, one of the top Aktion T-4 officials, victoriously declared the importance of using physicians to administer the gas through his oft-repeated motto: "The needle belongs in the hand of the doctor"

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Based on the logistical experiences of killing children with disabilities, similar administrative networks for registering the adult victims and the sham system of notification of next of kin were put in place. The euphemistically named Community Foundation for the Care of Asylums was the official unit responsible for hiring the killers and building staff, acquiring the gas, and later recycling gold teeth and selling jewelry from the dead. Another sham organization, the Community Patients' Transport Service, Ltd., transported asylum inmates from other institutions to the killing centers.

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Their identities were checked and they were closely observed by a physician, who attempted to match the size and appearance of the patient with a sham cause of death that was shortly to follow. Patients were then weighed, photographed, stamped with a number, and given a piece of cardboard with a corresponding number for retrieving their clothes later. Those who possessed gold dental work were further marked with an X on their backs. Others were also carefully marked if they were deemed appropriate for "scientific" autopsy after death. Most patients' fears were allayed by these seemingly routine medical procedures, which they had all undergone many times before.

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Concocted causes of death included the now familiar list: communicable diseases such as meningitis, which was possible in people of all ages; pneumonia, a common cause of death secondary to other serious diseases; and cases of stroke, a favored sham diagnosis among the elderly.

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There is little evidence that asylum directors openly opposed the killing of their patients. However, some questioned the legality of the program, and others deliberately avoided meetings that would have given them no choice but to become personally involved. Some quibbled with the accuracy and utility of the identification process. Scattered instances of delay, deliberate incompetence, and other forms of resistance also occurred. In spite of these efforts, reluctant asylum personnel were often reduced to making difficult choices of who would be taken to the killing centers and who would not.

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The Role of Science

A major impetus for Nazi ideology was its claim of legitimacy based on the pseudoscience of Social Darwinism, which drove perceptions of difference from benign recognition to active genocide. Not only was the pseudoscientific claimed as science (i.e., as established fact, data based, and replicated over time), but it was used as an instrument of deceit to perpetrate murder. On one hand, the appeal to "science" allowed the willing German intelligentsia to be more easily convinced to support and participate in brutality masquerading as research. On the other hand, the claims of Social Darwinism fed the public's long-held distrust of those who were different, whether racially or in terms of disability

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The enchantment of the intelligentsia with pseudoscience and the willingness of the public to seize pseudoscientific "facts" as legitimate knowledge remain problems in special education today, albeit in more benign forms. For example, the unfortunate history of facilitated communication (FC) eloquently demonstrates that fairly nonsensical ideas can be widely and enthusiastically embraced by people who should know better.

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The Power of Ideas

The events described in this article demonstrate the power of ideas and their consequences in the real world. In Nazi Germany, harshly prejudicial ideas toward people with disabilities replaced other, less extreme ideas. Eugenics, for example, did not appear in and of itself sinister, but it was quickly co-opted for nefarious ends. The idea of eugenics was dangerous to people with disabilities because it propelled action with scant regard for decency and compassion. In the marketplace of ideas, eugenics was embraced largely because it served a wider prejudicial purpose, namely, to control and then rid Germany of people deemed different, inferior, and asocial. The minority who resisted were soon silenced in the tidal wave of a demand for conformity to a master race superior to all others.

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Complicity of the Medical Professions

It is important to note that the enactment of prejudice against people with disabilities in Nazi Germany could not have succeeded without the complicity of the medical and adjunct professions. Power over life and death was placed firmly in the hands of physicians who became white-coated executioners, having long abandoned the "do no harm" clause of the Hippocratic Oath. Currently, there is evidence of the medical community's again being willing agents in hastening the deaths of people deemed not viable, including people with disabilities, through familiar methods for ending the lives of terminally ill people, such as starvation and death by thirst. Furthermore, there is evidence that "do no harm" is now viewed as a somewhat quaint throwback to a distant, less sophisticated era. For example, many physicians no longer take the Hippocratic Oath before beginning their careers, and many standard hospital treatment protocols now stipulate that staff physicians may override next-of-kin requests for patient treatment if the physician decides that treatment will likely be ineffective.

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Propaganda

The Nazis needed a means of influencing public opinion for more active perpetration of actions already planned. Propaganda became a useful tool. Nazi propaganda was created by many leading German artists, authors, and other creative persons impressed by the Third Reich, who lent their credibility and prestige to film, literature, and other public projects. Inexpert in matters of science, but eager to be on the cutting edge of issues of the day, many high-profile celebrities willingly embraced National Socialist dogma."

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Quiltlady's avatar

I have abandoned my Medical Doctors. They cannot help me with the issues I face. I found a Godly Naturopath who really understands how God made Human Beings. He knows how to help us be healthy without the use of any Pharmaceutical Poisons.

Medical Doctors were never taught to Heal anyone.

I call them People who Push Pills and Pick up a Paycheck.

SteelJ's avatar

Those who speak of rebuilding trust in government and institutions just show they never learn. They should never have been trusted, never should be trusted. Anyone who doesn't get that is not worth paying attention to.

Freedom Fox's avatar

1000%!!

Never, ever, ever, never never should've been trusted, should be trusted. Bingo! Too many still not paying attention, don't understand.

It's much like being in an abusive relationship, where the abuser cheats, is caught, promises to never cheat again, cheats again, abuses again, the victim keeps finding a way to rationalize and justify why they deserve the abuse and cheating and choose to believe their abuser despite the many repeated lies, the evidence of their own lived experience. EXACTLY the same psychology, phenomenon.

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Yup, same thing as battered woman syndrome. Regain trust? What trust? I never trusted them, which was a good place to be for a senior in 2020-2021. Heck, the founding fathers of the US knew authority can't be trusted and will be abused, so they built our founding documents with that thought first and foremost. Seems basic, doesn't it? I'm disgusted anytime anybody speaks of "rebuilding trust". They don't get it, at all. I'm all for making them "more trustworthy" than they are. But "trustworthy" is unattainable.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Nor desirable. Only God, Almighty is worthy of trust.

Other men may earn or lose conditional trust, that depends on verification. Even those we typically find ourselves in alignment with, think of as being on our 'team.' Especially those we think of a being on our 'team." That is the soft underbelly we all must be vigilant to protect. The best, most effective deceivers are those we are inclined to think of as being on out team. We let our guard down for them, too easily. And they know it.

Conmen. The "Con" short for "Confidence." Those men who gain our confidence, make us think they are on our 'team.'

Trust those who you think deserve some measure of trust, but not without verifying.

Sue Rosenthal's avatar

"They made their own gurneys. Now they have to be ventilated on them."

Now isn't That the best metaphor I've heard all year!

Patti's avatar

I couldn’t open your link. Most certainly proved they are not to be trusted. Most are followers

Freedom Fox's avatar

Sci-hub has been changing a bit lately. They help users read academic papers - paid for with public tax dollars - that are kept behind paywalls for other academics. I found another way into it, edited link above, should open for you now.

WP William's avatar

It muzt have been Vaxxination Vunderbar during ze Weimar. OUT mit ze olt und veak, ze Unterdesirables und IN mit ze New Order und a new perfected humanity under science.

Freedom Fox's avatar

As Nazi Dr. Viktor Brack famously said, "the needle belongs in the hand of the doctor." After watching a dozen men locked into a prototype gas chamber, inside a hospital, die a brutal death in front of him and onlookers through a large window observing their murders.

He was hung at Nuremberg. But it is wise to remember that while he often said and believed that the needle of death belongs in the hand of the doctor those he said it to agreed. And those with similar designs for mankind agree. Scamdemic was another prototype model, proof of concept.

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Please, STOP! with all the doctor-bashing! You know quite well that almost ALL the rational objections to the Covid "vaccines" were coming from DOCTORS! They were ridiculed, marginalized, and lost their jobs and licenses. And yet they persisted until finally proven right. In my town there were doctors who publicly advised patients not to go to the hospital with Covid under any circumstances. They gave out their private phone numbers, took calls from anyone at any time, and called in prescriptions for hydroxychloroquin and ivermectin to the pharmacies they knew would fill them. Many doctors were duped, as were many of the public, but many doctors were real heros.

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God bless the good ones!

Melissa S's avatar

I agree that there were good doctors during Covid. God bless those that were. They were absolutely heroic. But most doctors in our country were not in that category. A lot of the doctor bashing, I hate to say, is well deserved. And the same with hospitals.

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And this, Ladies and Germs, is "Exhibit A" for "why did so many German doctors joined the Nazi Party early. Zero self-examination. Complete absolution for their own complicit actions *inside* a corrupt, murderous system. Just. Like. Nazi. Doctors. Sames. Same EXACT mindset. More non-doctors KNEW it was all a dangerous scam. They had common sense and weren't duped. DOCTORS were only duped because they are obedient and addicted to their social and economic status. EXACTLY like Nazi Doctors.

Notice that this "retired MD" is trying to flip the script, make the GUILTY AS CHARGED medical doctors into the "Real Heroes."

The audacity! The nerve! They can't imagine that anybody but "DOCTORS" raised rational objections to the Convid quaxxines. Nope. Nobody else. Almost ALL of them came from, wait for it, "DOCTORS!"

Gimme a break. Exponentially more DOCTORS went along with it. ALL of it. Frankly, "doctor" I don't give a damn what you think *some* doctors did to help within a corrupt, murderous system. *Some* German doctors 'helped' around the edges in their 1930's-1940's practices. That didn't absolve the German medical system from the reputation it earned, from the findings of papers like the one I shared. There's always exceptions to every rule. They are exceptions.

DOCTORS demanded their patients, including emphysema wear masks. DOCTORS refused to give children the "exemptions" that EDUCATED parents requested for them. DOCTORS went along with an obviously FAKE Plandemic, normal flu season, media-orchestrated event that defied their own lived and professional experiences. DOCTORS went along with FAKE PCR tests, "asymptomatic" infection sources, "cases" that ALL medical science pre-2020 knew were noninfectious Bullshite. DOCTORS discarded proven Natural Immunity as a "New Age Belief System." EVERY single thing they did during Scamdemic was in direct contradiction with ALL prior pandemic planning guides. DOCTORS went along with notions that the flu magically disappeared in 2020 because of a supersmert, clever, powerful supervirus that knocked it out. DOCTORS who should have known better, were *obligated* to know better, were *trusted* to know better, conveniently forgot all they knew.

Because the hierarchical authoritarian structure of the medical profession told them to forget it all. And most ALL DOCTORS complied. ALL DOCTORS (with *some* notable exceptions) proved that they value their license to practice allopathic medicine MORE than they value the health and lives of their own patients. The exceptions being the ones who valued the health and lives of their own patients and were disciplined, lost their licenses, hospital privileges, for refusing to go along with the hierarchical authoritarian mandates and instructions they knew were wrong and imperiled their patients.

Remember, this is the profession that can't even say what a man or woman is anymore, that leaves birth certificate sex designations to the parents, that calls women "birthing persons." That has the audacity to proclaim "sometimes G-d makes a mistake and puts a little boy inside a little girl's body. Because the hierarchical authoritarian structure says so. "Consensus" says G-d makes mistakes. So good little Brack/Eichmann DOCTORS go along with it.

Your profession is dirty, wicked, quackery, murderous and corrupt. Filled with people who may have begun with the best of intentions, to heal, but who were corrupted the moment they stepped into medical school. Why DOCTOR "Young" is iatrocide the third leading cause of death in the US? Why? WHY? Not just Convid years. Pre- and Post-2020. WHY?

I have a pretty good idea why. Medical schools. Where aspiring young, idealistic medical students who get into the field wanting to help are "hazed" into their new roles, status in society. By medical school professors, deans who tell them they either discard their naïve imaginings about what being a doctor truly entails or they're not cut out to be in the field. Which is revealed starkly in the need for legislation like this:

Massachusetts 2023 H.2146/S.1333

An Act prohibiting nonconsensual intimate examinations of anesthetized or unconscious patients

Committee on Public Health, 9/20/2023

https://malegislature.gov/Events/Hearings/Detail/4682

(Timestamp Begin 03:24:40 - 03:34:30 End)

Bill language:

"Intimate examination", a pelvic, prostate or rectal examination.

“Health care provider”, a physician, a student in a medical or nursing school participating in a course of instruction, a person participating in a residency program or clinical training program, a physician assistant, an advanced practice registered nurse or other health care provider.

(b) A health care provider may not perform an intimate examination on an anesthetized, deeply sedated or unconscious patient unless the patient has given specific informed consent in writing to the intimate examination;"

In normal speak, "nonconsensual intimate examinations" is also known as "sexual assault." But sanitized into sterile medical terminology. "Don't judge them!" Says the 'doctor.' "Why, how else will they get trained to do medical procedures involving intimate areas?" Okay, fair point. But only to a point. That point is known as "Consent." Which is the reason for laws to prohibit doctors from sexually assaulting patients while they are unconscious.

When you watch the hearing you'll hear testimony from witnesses who describe how it happens to those young, idealistic wannabe healers. If they raise objections they're told by their deans to toughen up, make hard decisions, that's what being a medical doctor requires. If they can't then they don't belong in the field and they should just quit. When the students object and ask why they don't just ask patients if they'll consent to be trained on they are told, explicitly, "Because they might say, "no." They might not consent. So they don't even bother asking, just do it. For a "greater good." Utilitarian ethics. The ethics system of allopathic medicine.

Hundreds of thousands of dollars in debt, life dreams and aspirations at a pivotal moment, 98% make the negotiation with their morals and rationalize, justify sexually assaulting unconscious patients. "For a greater good." Utilitarian ethics supersedes their moral ethical compass.

So what happens when legislation like this is attempted in states like Massachusetts? It dies. Even when the committee members who heard the testimony are appalled at what they heard, disgusted to learn it is happening in their hospitals the legislation dies. Because leadership that gets ALL those donations from DOCTORS isn't going to do a damn thing about it.

More about how sexual assault of unconscious patients is usual and ordinary in most states:

https://www.atyourcervixmovie.com/

Thing is, even while the legislation, topic is about a lurid and depraved medical practice it is not a singular detestable practice taught and found in the medical field today. I share it to highlight the rationale that is inculcated in ALL doctors. How the idealistic young wannabe healer is turned into the Nazi Doctor murderers, one by one by one. It all starts with the same types of negotiations with their conscious. Rationalizing and justifying all sorts of harms they commit. Because they are told that is what being a doctor means, making hard decisions.

And it gets easier and easier to rationalize and justify after the very first negotiation with their conscience. "I know this is wrong, but I really want to keep my license to practice medicine. All of the people I can help if I stay in the field, I can try to navigate around these things I find most objectionable, but even if I must comply, the greater good of *me* being able to continue to heal is worth it. My patients need me." "So mask up, no mask exemption for your child, take your unsafe and ineffective experimental biotech, I'll treat your daughter's testicular cancer and your son's pregnancy, put you on statins and other scripts my employer's protocols tell me I must prescribe and do all I need to do at a minimum to keep my job." For a greater good, of course.

Sorry, not sorry, Ms. Young. I will NOT stop doctor-bashing. Never. They are NOT trustworthy. The few who step outside of the medical system and practice on the periphery with their freedom and integrity intact I have great respect for. But they are the few. Not the many. One can always find exceptions to anything bad. The rule applies. The FEW doctors who weren't duped, who did try to help were brave and heroic. But get over your damn egotistical arrogant self-righteous self! There were NOT many who rose to hero status. If there had been none of what happened would've happened. Not one bit. And the profession would have more respect for it as a result. Though the other pre-2020 systemic medical 'ethics' problems that allowed the Scamdemic happen still remain. Including their arrogant, self-righteous, egotistical sexual assaults on unconscious patients and other types of utilitarian justifications for doing harm.

WP William's avatar

Monsters of Medicine whose callous amorality, anti-Theistic Materialism, intellect, and view of self and their craft justifies a superior position over the diseased members of the human herd.

Margot Wooster's avatar

We need Nuremberg II, on steroids

SHug's avatar

Zero Measles Deaths, 3 DEAD FROM THE JAB: The CDC’s Fabricated Panic Exposed

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/zero-measles-deaths-3-dead-from-the

Peace's avatar

Very interesting article!! Thanks for sharing. I wonder if some of these traits could explain why so many medical providers went along with so much of the C-vid debacle?

Karmy's avatar

Gracious and merciful is the Lord: let us turn to him with confidence!

Good morning, C&C happy Friday on this Labor Day weekend!

shayne's avatar

Good morning Karmy. Happy Friday to you too!

Karmy's avatar

This morning I read Psalm 12 and it just struck me how it applies today.

Help, LORD, for no one loyal remains;

the faithful have vanished from the children of men.

They tell lies to one another,

speak with deceiving lips and a double heart.

May the LORD cut off all deceiving lips,

and every boastful tongue,

Those who say, “By our tongues we prevail;

when our lips speak, who can lord it over us?”

“Because they rob the weak, and the needy groan,

I will now arise,” says the LORD;

“I will grant safety to whoever longs for it.”

The promises of the LORD are sure,

silver refined in a crucible,

silver purified seven times.

You, O LORD, protect us always;

preserve us from this generation.

On every side the wicked roam;

the shameless are extolled by the children of men.

Rob's avatar

**“I used to call my presentations ‘Know Your Rights’ workshops. Now, they’re just workshops, because there are no rights.”**

There are "rights" if you came here legally!

MnmMom's avatar

Good Morning Jeff and C & C family, Happy Friday!

NoVA mom's avatar

Happy sunny Friday!! ☀️🌻☀️

shayne's avatar

Happy Friday NoVA

PonyBoy's avatar

I knew in the 1980's when the open southern border was leaking masses of little Mexicans into our country that a much bigger problem was being kicked down the road by the politicians who mostly all proclaimed, "They're doing the jobs Americans won't do.

What a crock of shite that was.

My brother and I were two white middle class kids taught to value work. Every job, regardless of how dirty you got doing it, was important and necessary.

Hell, I took one job at 18 years old in the summer of 1969 on top of the Coke Ovens at Bethlehem Steel that almost burned me up. Literally.

We were not coddled as kids by our parents and eager to start working. I took my first part time job at 14.

$1.40 an hour doing mostly manual labor.

Hear that kids. And no air-conditioning.

I know parents want to give their kids everything they can, but in so doing they can easily omit the really important life lessons that turn children into thoughtful productive adults.

Even though our politicians failed to see the much larger problems they were creating, it is with a strong sense of pride that I wish to acknowledge President Trump and all of the professionals in his administration, for the policies they have undertaken with a vengeance.

Policies perhaps not popular with everyone, but extremely necessary if our nation and the wider world around us, is to live and work together towards prosperity.

Jo Morris's avatar

Well said. We've coddled kids until they are too important to work. You and your brother are to be commended!!

PonyBoy's avatar

Thanks Jo. I lost my brother to an accident in 1990.

He was a better man than me.

Jo Morris's avatar

So sorry for your loss...

Rob's avatar

**Her (current) husband lost his green card when they moved to be closer to her job,**

Say what? "Lost"? Like he lost his wallet and his green card was in it? Or he got caught doing something against the rules and they took the green card away?