Yes, Sound of Freedom was great! I saw it yesterday with my family, and while it's a hard subject to cover in only a 2-hour movie, they did a great job at showing the emotional trauma of child trafficking. I highly recommend you go see it if you can!!
Yes, Sound of Freedom was great! I saw it yesterday with my family, and while it's a hard subject to cover in only a 2-hour movie, they did a great job at showing the emotional trauma of child trafficking. I highly recommend you go see it if you can!!
Human trafficking is a $150 BILLION a year industry that will soon surpass the illegal drug trade. More than 50 million people are trafficked every year, including child sex trafficking. Let that sink in….
There are more people illegally enslaved today than when slavery was legal.
The United States has the most sex trafficking in the world because we have the most DEMAND. We are a very sick country. We may never be able to stop the demand, but we can help stop the supply.
We need to open our eyes to the reality of child sex and human trafficking. The only way to start is acknowledging and understanding we have a huge problem that needs to be solved. Please see the movie “Sound of Freedom”.
Excellent summary! I had the same takeaways. I am blown away by those facts. You're right, we are a very sick country indeed! I only disagree with one part - we should stop the supply, but also seek to eliminate the demand. This is a very sick disease these people are suffering from. We need to find a cure, but in the meantime severely increase punishment for these crimes. Florida is on the right track with the death penalty (good job DeSantis!). We should make that law in all 50 states and also fast track the death penalty so they don't sit around in jail for years on appeals.
Truth - because it's not about sex, it's about having control over another person, especially an innocent one. Those who molest children actually could have sex with another adult, but they enjoy destroying innocents.
Radical feminists invented the idea that rape was not about sex, only about power. This is only half true. Rape is definitely about the forceful act of sex on a subdued human being, which requires physical power and a deranged mind. Similarly, pedophilia is also about satisfying a sexual urge with children using physical and mental power tricks to achieve an immoral and cruel act.
I've always been amazed anyone would buy the "it's not about sex" narrative. I mean, they are literally forcing someone to have sex. Not to bow down and kiss their feet. Or wear certain clothes or say certain words (like our gov't does). It's literally about acting on a sexual attraction that can't be fulfilled by legal means. And yet the feminists tried to say it has nothing to do with sex. Mind boggling.
I'm definitely not a feminist in the least; in fact, probably the furthest thing from it. I can only speak from my experience as an incest survivor. The man who molested me had plenty of sexual partners, but he enjoyed having power over others to an extreme. My primary abuse was from ages 3-9. I am not getting into details, but there was a hell of a lot he did to mentally torture myself and other children that I remember. Maybe I'm wrong about other perps, but this one enjoyed the power trip. It took me years to come to terms with that fact. Rape alone would have been easier than the mind job he did. This is only my experience and am not saying this for sympathy, but rather to explain my position.
Appreciated. Yes, in my views all crimes that are universlly recognised as crimes, are an expression of a demented desire for "Power over others" . (Theft, fraud, blackmail, rape, murder, etc,) You may appreciate this post..
It may have been Jennifer Bileck doing a deep dive into people behind the movement for years...their backgrounds, etc. Can't recall, it was quite some time ago but it seemed to make perfect sense when viewing the big picture. Horrific, I know!!
I don't honestly know enough about it to say one way or the other. Chemical castration maybe? Just eliminate them altogether would be my preference. I know the liberals never go for that. I really have zero sympathy for them though.
I think you are right... about five years ago I had this dream... I know, it's just a dream but it felt so real. I was running through a field unsure of which direction to turn and there were others running in a confused panic. I thought, "I must tell my family what is happening" and I stopped and looked up into the sky. There was a massive billowing fire, it looked like the ocean rolling in successive waves across the sky, igniting and consuming the atmosphere as it increased in size. Then a voice said, "It's too late" and I woke up. Most likely all symbolic and I have thought in retrospect that it was a warning about the plandemic. When the convid hit the airwaves I never panicked and it didn't take me but a few weeks to figure out it was all a big fat lie. I think humanity absolutely must play their part and realize that we are so much more than this body, than this singular existence. We have to stop thinking small - we are not small. The spiritual realm depends us, the earth depends on us - to evolve spiritually. That's how we win this thing.
A refining fire. The Bible speaks of being reborn, made alive by His Spirit, the Spirit of Christ the living God. But I can find nothing about evolving spirits. From dead to alive. A Newness of life.
Not from alive to evolved. Is this another gospel?
That's a great question. My sense is it is not a new gospel I speak of - but the gospel as it truly was before all the changes occurred through writ of church councils over the centuries. We are meant to rediscover the Truth in its totality; to expand or evolve our understanding of the Christ and in so doing come to understand who we really are, why we are here, and what it is we are supposed to do. Certainly, we are not here to be slaves, fight wars for the locust class, or make a lot of money and then die.
We have been nurtured by materialistic religious dogma's to this point in time and given the state of this age we are clearly entering a new age of adjustment that is always accompanied by unbelievable tumult and suffering (this started in earnest at the turn of the 20th century). The woes of this world can not be corrected through litigation and bloody wars. Time to think vertically instead of horizontally if we are going to win the war over our very souls. I have a long way to go in understanding this life but I am going to give it my best effort for as long as He gives me the breath to continue.
Well, I wish you well. I know that some church’s teachings emphasize the material, but the humble, God honoring people—and many churches do not believe or teach that. We see that error — as wolves in sheep’s clothing, but not representing Truth or sound, Biblically-derived doctrine. So, I agree with you on what is good and pure, but regard that blanket belief about dogmas as not representative, tho’ many lay hold of it to discredit historic Christianity.
True (Historic, believing) Christians do think less horizontally than vertically. We look to Christ for now and eternity (upward), but live in the world so outward, (vertically) to family, neighbors and strangers. All with love and grace and forgiveness (tho’ imperfect ‘cos it’s us)
That’s the human version of what God gave & gives — perfectly — to us.
I love God; He loved me first. I love His love and loving care for me, even through the most dreadful times — suffering & death & fear heartbreak. When I’m weakest, He carries me, at the lowest times, delivering small and wondrous loveliness as signs. Through Him & through Hs Bible, I discern between wrong and right and know the whys of it.
I know Justice and Mercy, Wisdom and Goodness — not natural understanding in me (I know me all too well) and I often fall short, gratefull for the forgiveness and access to the Father that Jesus won and bequeaths to me. This is not religion or dogma of a church. It’s simple Faith.
So that’s it. But our conversation could go on and on, couldn’t it?
Thank you for such a kind and sincere reply. I’m really glad you’re here and in the fight of all time, friend!
Really? I wonder what her take on it was... It is always difficult to interpret the message. Interesting that she knew the location. I was not familiar with the area I found myself in.
So the drug that is given for chemical castration is the same one given to children as a "puberty blocker." Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
Perhaps a twenty year sentence to a work camp isolated in the Wyoming highlands fifty miles from the nearest paved road. THAT might be legally accomplishable.
But I rather like Jesus' words on the subject: better to hang a millstone round their perverted necks and send them to sea for a short vertical swim. Society would benefit from the cleansing, and the fish would benefit as well. Soon enough such activity would cease, as eitehr the entire population of such operatives would be done away with, and/or the likelihood of a putative perpetrator being dissuaded by the likely consequences of his actions would pose a strong deterrent to such activity.
Yes! Thank you - that's exactly what I think. Because we've seen many times that this behavior seems to repeat...unfortunately those who were victims oftentimes then become the culprits later (not with everybody, but some of them). So that's what I really meant with my statement about a cure...not a cure for the pervert, a cure for society.
Chemical castration is NOT the answer! It is a matter of their heart and mind. They have surrendered to the evil that compels them to pursue/hunt their victims at any cost! There is no "cure", there is no stopping what is inside them. They have to be removed from society one way or another. Only God can stop it and so far I know of no one He has successfully stopped. Mankind still has a choice and their choice is destruction.
child rape should be a capital crime, as it is soul murder of the child. They cannot be rehabilitated, and can never be let out. They should be executed.
I would be willing to bet that a lot of the so called “elite” (rich, landed people and those of the so-called nobility) always felt entitled to abuse children of the “lesser” classes if they so desired. No one would be able to go against them. And sone of the poor probably also did this. Sick, deranged monsters have always existed.
Yes, the entitled feel they can use people at will. My daughter has been bartending for years and often comments on the rude, condescending behavior of the out of State wealthier clientele. I think back to slave masters as well. Those who deem themselves superior to others should be watched carefully.
Homosexuals long had to keep themselves under cover, sometimes using 'marriage' as a cover, until recently. I suspect that pedophilia is the same: the recent 'let it all hang out' attitude gave them license to come into the light.
Only the spiritually blind don’t know why it exists, and only the spiritually blind don’t know that without repentance and conversion, the consequences are eternal. The only cure is to round them up, lock them up, and wake them up. “Certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord . . . In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.” Jude 1
Atheology is opposition to theology, which I am not.
I'm opposed to the passing off of theology as truth when it lacks the core to be such. All theology is made by (mostly) men who want to control other men.
“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he was drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Please let’s stop labeling pedophilia an illness or disease. Let’s return to what such degrading human actions were considered in the past, before Freudians and newfangled psychiatrists and psychologists medicalized them and thus placed them beyond the moral sphere. There’s a reason why pedophilia has been considered to be a severe moral corruption, widely punished legally, socially, and religiously. Every pedophiliac act is done willfully and consciously. The thought precedes the act, not the other way around. It is, therefore, a moral sin, not a medical condition beyond the fault of the “sufferer”.
Agreed ... no more diluting things down. It's a crime. Punishment by capital punishment should not be out of the question. If one is shocked by this, then the question is ... how much do we value the children? We are the only guardians children have.
Agree with your statement completely. I don't really know enough about it to say what it is, quite honestly. My knowledge on the subject is limited to what I see on Law & order, unfortunately (or fortunately! however you see it). I agree with you, I do not think that it's a medical condition deserving of any sympathy - it is a depraved immoral act. You are right about that.
Making all pornography illegal (when did online porn become legal anyway?) and other internet access to such evils punishable by long imprisonment. This is the evil which enters through the senses which then spurns evil acts. For offenders: death penalty and castration.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I've seen the addiction and the ruin firsthand with an ex of mine. And things got worse after - his now ex let me know that he continued on with the addiction and joined websites misrepresenting his age and picking up young girls while they were married. I agree with you, porn does something to the mind. Agree with you on penalty suggestions too.
When someone has been convicted and executed by a court, why shouldn't the entire court stand trial for the murder of the executed person with malice of forethought and executed themselves if convicted?
I bought the tickets and an hour before the show my puppy licked a toad or was hunting a toad and was poisoned. I flushed her mouth with water and raced to the Vet. I waited three hours in Vet office to make sure Dakota was ok and she was. I missed the movie. I did buy two tickets and was planning on going but it seems God didn’t want me to go. Was it overly shocking or sad? I cried a lot at the vet on Tuesday not up for more emotions this week. Thank goodness puppy ok. I’m afraid of toads but I won the fight with toad with a broom and then the excessive drooling and pacing from puppy took me to vet stat. If in florida be sure to buy Pupdefense pellets. I didn’t realize had Cane toads. Rains brought them out.
I’m sorry to hear about your doggie. I’m glad she is. ❤️
It was not too shocking. It was profoundly sad. When you see a child missing and the parent aches to have them back. When the parent knows their child has been taken into sex trafficking. The two children in the movie did a superb job. It was a brother and sister. The sadness comes from watching a family torn apart because their children were taken.
👆🏼Please read. It’s a very thorough and well-researched breakdown of the Border crimes & the whole chain of enablers, profiteers and culpibles re child exploitation.
I don't understand the point you are trying to get at. Of course child trafficking has victims. We all know that. What's the point of saying that explicitly or using the preface "at least". There's an implied comparison to something that doesn't have victims - perhaps porn?
I have yet to see Sound of Freedom. It’s a challenging topic but one crying for resolution. I read Gram’s referenced article. It is a hit piece, literally dripping with unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks. So bad it deserves a response. It claims to be authored by an “award winning expert veteran journalist.” It’s fraudulent. Read it and see. See the movie if you are so inclined. Btw. Sound of Freedom’s has succeeded despite the predictions of this “award winning journalist.”
Well, when you have entities that in the past have acted as shills and propaganda machines, it makes them less believable going forward. I don’t trust that they don’t have an ulterior motive or aren’t being paid to publish articles like these by those who don’t like that human trafficking is being talked about.
Exactly! After what we've just witnessed over the last three years, I have learned to question this kind of thing automatically now. They've outed themselves with their tactics.
Jordan Peterson's interview with Ballard is well worth the time, even just the first 20 mins where JP lays out all the attacks and criticisms, and Ballard explains why.
According to Jim Caviezel, the movie was finished 5 years ago. We already know how Hollywood is riddled with pedophiles. It’s not a stretch to think they did everything in their power to prevent it from coming to the theaters.
If we learned anything from “Me Too,” Hollywood is the promoter and ground zero. Epstein’s client list would prove that the MSM, DC, and the current DOJ are all complicit.
Harvey Weinstein is an example of a lecherous lug of a human being. We only know about the adult women he abused. How many more were under age but kept under wraps by parents who didn’t want the notoriety.
The same kind of malign and denigration is being directed at Robert Malone now. And many people buy it. They attack the man w.o. addressing the factual evidence presented. Very effective propaganda to direct readers away from important revelations.
So, I just read this the other day. I suppose it’s veracity can be checked, but it looks legit & is disconcerting. Whether undeserved slander or legitimate exposure — either way, disturbing! What do you think?
I re-read the paragraphs you mention. I think the point they’re making, as is clear in the rest of the article, is that Dr Malone had prior knowledge of the jab’s deadly dangers, but did not speak a warning for an entire year. He has said that he received the doses and suffered side effects.
I don’t know what to think about it, frankly, but I think he has behaved rather arrogantly with Dr Daniel Nagasi, whose substack discusses what he’s determined are likely effects of the jab on DNA. Dr Malone was dismissive about this and responded in a way that was quite less than collegial, belittling, in fact.
Well, we’ll see. At times it seems like a big game and I’m just trying to figure out what the rules are! I suppose in time it’ll all come out in the wash.
Reading one article is fact-checking? I saw the movie around 2018, when a preview was presented online. Film was supposed to be released about 3 years ago, but delayed due to Utah AG investigation. I've researched Tim Ballard and O.U.R for 3 years.
Of course it was closed. They movie was delayed for years while Tim was under investigation. Who cleared it for release? What else do you know about the Utah AG and the pedo/corruption within Utah and the Mormon Church?
Gram needs to do more research and watch this interview where most of her criticisms and concerns are addressed. Impressive conversation and God-embracing dialogue between three men.
I looked through several threads. Gram is definitely a bot. End of movie even showed original footage from the island raid, along with the children and capture of key evil players.
I’ll have to let my husband, kids and grandkids know. I’m not a man. And I’m not a con.
I just know that ‘gram’ is trying to stop the info on child trafficking. Why? And why are you taking up for it? Gram/Graham., whatever it/she/he is seems to have only one track.......and that is to malign any thought of child trafficking being revealed.
I have been watching the Senate hearings, grilling Myorkas on this. These people are evil. They’re behind all the aspersions on this film. And Gram/Graham is ‘helping’ them.
Roman, Seriously? Someone hears something new, and researches it for 5 minutes and they know what's up? I've communicated with you about prior articles here. I've read your substack. I'm a gramma concerned with a safe, sane world just like you are.
Yeah! Barry Zwicker, Richard Gage and hundreds of others were accused of profiteering off the victims of 9/11 when they started gaining traction. They didn't care about the truth at all. Riiiiiight!
All the hate toward Ballard is due to the subject matter being shadow banned by the elites driving it. You’re being propagandized. The film has photographic evidence from the raid that took place in real life so saying it isn’t real means you never watched Sound of Freedom, so why are you commenting?
So....Gram. You watched it in 2018. Were you horrified by the subject matter? The fact of this horrendous child abuse, rape, enslavement?
What did you do to get that information out? What did you do to try and stop it then? What are you doing now to stop it? Whatever you really are, please stop this idiotic crusade of yours. Nobody here cares.
Are you attacking the message or the man? Are the assertions and evidence in the film false? Dont make a pure attack on the man and just a link. Give an outline of your issue,
Yes, Gram, please elaborate. I have zero doubts the issue is real. Perhaps state some key points from the links so Jeff can determine if he wants to dig deeper. Or make it easier for him to dig deeper...
The film is supposedly based on a true story. No such true story. Kidnapping and trafficking happens. Tim Ballard has not rescued one child. Film was ready for release in 2018. Delayed due to investigation by Utah AG.
Which is what the controlled opposition (ie pedos that rule Hollyweird) would like us all to think. I’ve listened to Tim’s interview. I guess he’s an academy award winning actor then, because his account is very believable.
Kidnapping and trafficking happen. But Tim Ballard is not the hero he wishes himself to be. Take time and look at the information that has been researched for years about him and others promoting the film. There are many savior complex con-men that come from the Mormon church.
Gram, you are completely wrong regarding these 'sources' of evidence. These misleading and untrue accusations are addressed directly here. Please watch and rest your fingers.
Could gram be a pedo bot himself? Is there such a thing? An AI creature that likes storing and manipulating AI files of abused and trafficked children? Cmon Gram, fess up.
Jim Caviezel is actually my neighbor. I do not know him personally but I do know people who do. I trust him completely to not get involved in a made up story of fairytale pedos. You know you’re over the target when the ad hominem attacks start.
Gram, whether or not Tim Ballard is con-man like you suggest, does it really matter in the grand scheme of things when you think of what this movie is trying to highlight and bring awareness to? ESPECIALLY this issue. Who cares if, like you say, the guy is lying? If this movie saves the life and frees just one child, its immaterial who Tim was. You’re splitting hairs while ignoring the enormity of the issue before us. Let law enforcement take care of Tim if he’s such a con man, that’s not your job to smear his name regardless of his guilt or not. You aren’t law enforcement, correct? Stay in your lane then…
I have not seen the film. I have heard rumors of what you say about Tim Ballard and so pray that he is on the good side... if not that would mean his whole family and famous people he has taken on rescue missions like tony robbins (I saw an interview w both of them about it) would all be a lie....
Yes. I was just talking about the Operation Underground Railroad action to free imprisoned women from Guatemala (where they were being held captive as sex slaves to sex tourists.)
Tony Robbins loaned his private jet to free these women. Was it all a scam? That seems like it would have engaged some pushback from Robbins if it had been. I'm skeptical either way.
But the link to the anti-OUR article was so full of half-baked and crazed language that I'd bet Ballard and O.U.R. are probably the good-guys here.
If Slate and The Atlantic and and co. are putting out hit pieces on this movie and its creator, then I’m inclined to believe the accusations are made up. Those are the same entities that pushed the masks and shots, and won’t talk about Hunter Biden or Joe’s corruption, who trashed ivermectin and generally do the opposite of telling the truth.
Yes, it is SO HARD to figure out who are white hats vs black hats these days. BUT whenever I get into an argument with someone who uses sources like Slate, Atlantic, Snopes, NYT or WaPo I pretty much disregard the info out of the gate. However, I don't reply with sources from Fox News either, as the left immediately reply with, Oh, Faux News.
Yes. I also don't tend to reply with Fox articles because I don’t really follow them since I think they’re not conservative and a lot of times they are spouting the same narrative as everyone else in the legacy propaganda media is.
True, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.
I don't follow Fox News but I do get people sending me things from there, and they are usually pretty decent at including links to source documents. If not, I look for them on my own. Actually, mostly the same with any news article. If they don't include links to the sources they are either corrupt or lazy. And it's why I don't like videos, very rare that the speakers have any footnotes linking to where they got their info. I had 3 people send me videos this weekend about the Brunson case being in the SC. The SC went into recess on Thursday, yet these people in the videos (from confidential insider sources, lol) talking about a SC announcement on the case coming on July 4. SMDH. Some on the right are just as gullible as some on the left. They refused to believe me when I said Brunson was dead as a doornail, even when I shared the link to the SC docket on the case. July 4 has come and gone and I have resisted the urge to 'circle back' and ask then where the announcement is....
I just operate on the principle that “news” sources and “journalists” that have lied before or been paid to promote propaganda, are likely to continue doing the same. So why would I believe them this time?
I do research for business planning for a living, and in that I have a rule of 3. Any statistic or data point that could be used as a key decision point has to have corroboration from 3 different sources. Depends on the topic, of course, but the business press is not as lockstep as the political press. But with politics infesting more and more aspects of our lives, I am writing more and more disclaimers into my reports, and spending a lot more time questioning and vetting information sources, not just the information, even from those I used to consider trustworthy, like the Census Bureau.
Exactly. And Brett Baier is not what I call an honest journalist. He was part of the 3-person debate panel, remember? Megyn Kelly, Chris Wallace, and Brett. He kept his cool, for sure. Brett is too smooth, by half. He inched his way up the Lying-for-Money ladder taking over from Brit Hume. I have never been a fan.
I'd say it's best to wait until the kids are old enough to understand. There's some frightening scenes they wouldn't understand. Parents, though, should definitely be aware of the dangers.
Yeah, my apologies I mis-read the question. I will say even though I'm not a mother myself yet, there were a few scenes that brought me to tears. It takes awhile afterwards to process everything, but it's better to have the knowledge than be in the dark.
Absolutely not! Children should not be exposed to a trafficking movie or drag shows or .....you NEVER know what sticks in their minds....what a strange question...
She never said anything about taking children to that movie.
She asked about her pregnant ( and mother of young children) daughter, wondering if the movie would be to distressing for her. It was a valid question.
The Sound of Freedom is rated PG-13. Others are recommending taking their teens to see it. Decide for yourself. It’s a bit of a thriller, but positive and informative. That’s what I hear. I’ll see it tonight. An interview with Tim Ballard:
I would not take children to see this movie.... it's one more thing to destroy childhood innocence. Talk to them about it. Caution them about the dangers around us. Let them be children a bit longer...
I was expecting a visually horrifying experience. It was not. The explanatory scenes were subtlety portrayed. It was impactful in many different ways: the psychology of the pedophile, the fetishes, the altruist motives and passion of those seeking to expose the darkness. The evil.
I wish I had known this. I have been deep digging into this for so long that my heart felt it could not take it, so I did not go. I now regret that decision. Thank you for this explanation.
Queen...Parents need to know what is out there if they turn their back for just one second. And it is out there, waiting. Terrible, but as she is an adult, we all have to face the fact that our children are precious and people want to take them from us. If nothing else it will make her hyper-vigilant in her day to day activities and that is a good thing. She needs to see it.
I don’t think the original poster was asking if it would be ok to take the kids. It was about taking the daughter who has little kids. I’m struggling with the same dilemma. I think it would scare the crap out of my daughter and probably cause her to lose a lot of sleep. The type of kidnapping depicted in the surveillance camera footage in the film first part of the film is fortunately rare or nonexistent where she lives. Yet I want her to be aware. It’s a tough decision for a grandparent.
If I were pregnant, I would not want to watch a movie like that. It would keep me on high alert for the rest of my life, worrying about my children being taken.
Don't take anyone. Tim Ballard is a fraud, a conman. He has not rescued one child. Do NOT send him anymore donation dollars. He has already stolen over $50M in donations.
Did Jeff fact-check him? No. But the truth is there. He is a conman!
Just read the article you posted, which was written a year ago. “May,” “Alleged,” “Allegations,” etc. Sounds eerily similar to hit pieces written about Trump. All bloviation...no substance. So glad the film is doing well and has been released in thousands of theaters throughout the nation, despite the article’s assessment that there was “no distribution to theaters yet in sight.”
It’s a hit job and this “Gram” (pretty sure is a fake acct or a bot) has shown up on every post about the movie with this link. There was an investigation in Utah that amounted to nothing and dropped. It was a hit job from its onset and we all know why. After seeing the film, we all know why even more so!!
Trying to figure out what Gram is short for? Gramercy? Gramnesty? 1/458 of a pound? Little puke doesn’t say anything different. Like a broken record. Or a bot.
OK. You got my attention, so I opened it up and read it, until I got to this:
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Not only has bizarre myths and the hysteria of human trafficking come to light in the past few years, but much of it has come directly from Ballard himself- who portrays himself as “the world’s leading expert” of human trafficking. From the silly, medically impossible and debunked QAnon belief of “adrenochroming” which Jim Caviezel claimed he was shown evidence by Tim Ballard, to outrageous statistics and figures used by Ballard that has drawn criticism from law enforcement, criminologists and legitimate human trafficking experts."
So, a better question than "did Jeff fact check him", is did you fact check this"?.
You almost had me. Join the warmonger Ukraine trolls
...reading one article is fact-checking? I've been researching corruption in the Mormon church for 50 years. There are many within it like Tim Ballard. It was founded by a man with a savior complex.
You referenced one article multiple times in support of your assertion(s). The referenced article is entirely based on liberal application of the ad hominem fallacy. Other comments apply the same fallacy. You have proven nothing. The success of this movie in getting to the theaters, despite great adversity, and its success thus far, supports the argument that Tim Ballard is making a strong and positive impact towards increasing awareness and working to eliminate human trafficking.
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm trying to share sources that provide conflicting information to Tim's claims. That's what got me started on doing my own research. Critical thinking. I know it's a lost art. I don't want to be taken in by a conman, especially one who is using trafficked children to steal donation dollars!
Not an I-must-do-all-I-can-because-CHILDREN-are-being-hurt complex?
Better a do-not-ally-with-those-suspected-of-ulterior-motives-that-is-easily-checked-out-in-501C3-annual-statements — that complex?
Oh my, Gram! I understand your stand & research, and your desire for truth. I get it. I admire your earnest tenacity.
(no, folks, I doubt Gram is a bot or troll. In fact, Gram is holding up with relatively good grace under a pretty hostile dogpile!)
— But guilt without proof is wrong, right? I am Christian. Oh, please, Gram do not judge me by corrupt professing Christians, of which there are legion!
Let’s just settle down, play nice and do the next thing, everyone —
Do you work for Soros? The DNC? Hollywood? Do you get paid by the hour, by the post, by how many words your itty-bitty groomer hands type? Are you friends with these traffickers? Are YOU a trafficker?
I think you may well be and perhaps need to be investigated by Polk County Florida Sheriff Grady. He loves putting pesos behind bars.
Here in principle is the stand Apostle Paul takes on a similar issue.
“According to Philippians 1:15-18, it is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
The latter do so out of love, knowing that the author is put here for the defense of the gospel.
The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, supposing that they can stir up trouble for the author while he is in chains. However, the important thing is that Christ is preached in every way, whether from false motives or true motives.
So then regardless of your claim the fact that this movie is available and as a result many people are becoming aware of something our own government refuses to acknowledge or seriously address.
Kidnapping and trafficking happens. The film is supposedly based on him and his experience. The $50M in donations he has collected so far, has not gone to 1 rescued or aftercared child.
I'm on the side of the truth. I've been researching Tim Ballard for 3 years since OUR became popular and promoted through online 'influencers'. I've known of Mormon con-men for decades.
Gram: What other information do you have in addition to this article that is a year old? If you have been researching Tim Ballard and his contributions to saving children from sex trafficking - I would imagine you have more than this article. Please share.
Okee-dokee, Gram. I’ve dutifully copied and pasted your links to my notes and will earnestly set to reading them in time. Thank you.
Just an observational note here, though. Upon cursory perusal, a few do jump out. These are ‘The Atlantic’ and ‘Fox 13’. Both are notorious Mockingbird Media purveyors of TPTB opinion. — ‘The Atlantic’ being the more sophisticated but by no means superior. That’s one of my favorite go-tos for why my sister always sounds so intelligent and wrong about everything. Explains it all. ‘Fox 13’ (like ‘Fox 2-12 and 14-insert # here) is one of those spouting the 4am talking points handed by TPTB to all the MSM “news“ shows. Wouldn’t trust either of them if I were you.
Not familiar with the ‘American Crime Journal’, but it certainly seems to be high on your reading list.
Incidentally, missing on this list are two more of my favorite go-tos to explain-my-sister’s (and other intelligentsia/elite wanna-be-er’s) ignorance: NPR and Huff-Post. They’re GREAT for checking out what’s propagandizing once-intelligent people.
You may want to check them out, too.
Well, I expect everyone has moved on. Hoping so anyway!
I would wish, Gram, to your critical thinking be added discernment. Check ALL your sites by taking a topic you know really well and see what they have to say about that. It sniffs out where they’re at pretty quick. A decent litmus test, but not perfect. Discernment.
Thanks, I've saved to listen later, need to get to work. But in all this argument on the comments today re: Ballard and Caviezel, I have not looked into either of these 2 men to know if they are credible or not. (although I have to say Ballard does kind of remind me of Eric Greitens who used his non-profit to make a political name for himself, including using the donor list to raise campaign funds and who constantly cried 'witch hunt' whenever he was investigated). However, I do have a ton of respect for Jordan Peterson, one of the few I do trust these days.
I'm trying to follow all the fighting above saying Ballard is a conman and one thing I am confused on...so if he's a grifter, are they saying that story about him dropping his pension and going on a hunt to rescue this girl in the bowels of Colombia is all fake? Because I can't imagine any conman putting themselves in that much danger. He could've been killed like 100 different ways, and he has small kids himself to think about. The only thing I can think of that would compel a man to put himself at that much risk is a calling from Christ.
I just don’t see any real evidence for the claim. A bunch of links to articles by MSM organizations and one other site, as well as vague references to investigations by a state AG (which could lend credence but it depends on the AG and their motivations, certainly if for example, Leticia James is investigating something, I’m suspicious about why). Also claims the poster did their own research but no facts I can see to back up what they supposedly found.
I listened to all of this interview yesterday! It is excellent! There is much background information on Ballard and how he became involved in rescuing children from this horror. He also shares about other raids and the number of children rescued. Also revealed is another movie that dramatizes two other segments of the raid that is shown in Sound of Freedom. You will not be disappointed!
My friend and I are going to see Sound of Freedom this Saturday - it's been many years in the making and almost did not get shown at all. Thanks to a group called Angel Studios (based in Utah--it is a Mormon corporation, BTW)...the film will finally be shown across the country. May it glean new and positive action to STEM THE TIDE of this most despicable "slavery trade" of all.
Of course they do! Of course! This is pretty well-known. But your statement. does not follow; it’s not a reply!
Try to set all that aside for one minute. Take off your “but, but they’re BAD!” hat, set it aside. OK. Now, can a film help to alert and alarm anyone who still possesses a working conscience — of ANY persuasion — to this MASSIVE HORROR of UNSPEAKABLE CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN? Can it do that? If so, it’s better that it be seen than that you succeed at discouraging it from being seen, just so money and credit won’t go to one that you & others think is dishonest.
Please engage with what’s at stake here, ok Gram? Drop that bone. Drop it.
Don’t go see the movie, Gram. Fine! But DO engage with what the movie is about!
And the entire population in the world has a pedo problem. Why are you attacking churches? Why not go after the entire world if you’re that worried about it?
Anxious to see it. Have followed Tim Ballard and his outstanding efforts for years. Love Jim Caviezel's exemplary acting abilities, all of which he chooses to personally support.
I am going tonight. Woo! I am taking a friend who, during a card game, revealed she knew nothing of what is going on with human trafficking in America. She doesn't regard what is happening as "trafficking" or as a result of our open border or the fact that prostitution is brought to our town via another big city near us (they stream thru - as in not permaprostitutes). So tonight the banana peel will be stripped off the eyes. I hope. People would be shocked if they knew who sold children and how easy it is and how many people want them. Sick Sick SICK!
One more thing is that trafficking takes a lot forms.
Holding Haitians basically captive (they can't leave the compound) so they can chop sugarcane - right here in the US.
Caribbean Islands where they import sex workers to a compound to have sex with people working there or tourists (happens elsewhere too, but that I KNOW happens)
Chinese or other SEA people coming here as indentured servants where they are held and farmed out until they are "done" paying off debt to get here.
We allow this to happen right under our nose. We BUY products like phones and sneakers where they capture or enslave people who make the products.
I feel like it is so endemic that it is impossible not to buy or use something not created or at the expense of another human who has little choice (if any) for their life. California would do well to stop the current slavery and trafficking in their own borders before they puff their ego with the reparations talk. They play their citizens AND allow them to remain ignorant about their part in this crime.
I agree and also watched it yesterday. It was tastefully done without any added tramatic scenes that I feared would send me over the edge. I knew it was big business but I had no idea to what extent. $150 BILLION worldwide. Of course, the United States of Horror is the biggest spender of child pornography and child trafficking slavery, and it a worse slavery than any other in human history. I have no pity whatsoever for those adults who use and abuse little children and wish a long, agonizing death by drowning with a millstone around their necks and forever burning in the fires of hell.
My thoughts exactly. ANYONE who abuses children or enables that abuse. It must stop!
I have wanted to share several posts here, but the sheer volume has jumbled up all the threads & it’s impossible, so you are my resting place. Hope that’s ok!
Please read and spread far and wide If you like them & think others will profit by them.
And this is a very thorough and well-researched breakdown of the Border crimes & the whole chain of enablers, profiteers and culpibles behind child exploitation 👉🏻https://badlands.substack.com/p/its-about-the-children
Yes, Sound of Freedom was great! I saw it yesterday with my family, and while it's a hard subject to cover in only a 2-hour movie, they did a great job at showing the emotional trauma of child trafficking. I highly recommend you go see it if you can!!
I'm hearing lots of great things about Sound of Freedom, thanks for sharing.
Roman,
It was well worth seeing.
Human trafficking is a $150 BILLION a year industry that will soon surpass the illegal drug trade. More than 50 million people are trafficked every year, including child sex trafficking. Let that sink in….
There are more people illegally enslaved today than when slavery was legal.
The United States has the most sex trafficking in the world because we have the most DEMAND. We are a very sick country. We may never be able to stop the demand, but we can help stop the supply.
We need to open our eyes to the reality of child sex and human trafficking. The only way to start is acknowledging and understanding we have a huge problem that needs to be solved. Please see the movie “Sound of Freedom”.
“God’s children are NOT for sale”.
Excellent summary! I had the same takeaways. I am blown away by those facts. You're right, we are a very sick country indeed! I only disagree with one part - we should stop the supply, but also seek to eliminate the demand. This is a very sick disease these people are suffering from. We need to find a cure, but in the meantime severely increase punishment for these crimes. Florida is on the right track with the death penalty (good job DeSantis!). We should make that law in all 50 states and also fast track the death penalty so they don't sit around in jail for years on appeals.
There is no cure for pedophilia.
It isn't a disease. It is a crime.
Truth - because it's not about sex, it's about having control over another person, especially an innocent one. Those who molest children actually could have sex with another adult, but they enjoy destroying innocents.
Radical feminists invented the idea that rape was not about sex, only about power. This is only half true. Rape is definitely about the forceful act of sex on a subdued human being, which requires physical power and a deranged mind. Similarly, pedophilia is also about satisfying a sexual urge with children using physical and mental power tricks to achieve an immoral and cruel act.
I've always been amazed anyone would buy the "it's not about sex" narrative. I mean, they are literally forcing someone to have sex. Not to bow down and kiss their feet. Or wear certain clothes or say certain words (like our gov't does). It's literally about acting on a sexual attraction that can't be fulfilled by legal means. And yet the feminists tried to say it has nothing to do with sex. Mind boggling.
I am not spewing a narrative, I am speaking from my own experience. Kindly see the earlier comment made in response to LW.
I'm definitely not a feminist in the least; in fact, probably the furthest thing from it. I can only speak from my experience as an incest survivor. The man who molested me had plenty of sexual partners, but he enjoyed having power over others to an extreme. My primary abuse was from ages 3-9. I am not getting into details, but there was a hell of a lot he did to mentally torture myself and other children that I remember. Maybe I'm wrong about other perps, but this one enjoyed the power trip. It took me years to come to terms with that fact. Rape alone would have been easier than the mind job he did. This is only my experience and am not saying this for sympathy, but rather to explain my position.
Appreciated. Yes, in my views all crimes that are universlly recognised as crimes, are an expression of a demented desire for "Power over others" . (Theft, fraud, blackmail, rape, murder, etc,) You may appreciate this post..
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I read somewhere that this is ultimately what "puberty blockers" are for. Keeping children "child-like" and not moving into adulthood.
I thought that's what a university education was accomplishing? ;)
The truth.
Gross 🤮😡🤬
Never heard that. Hope it is not true. Transgender experimentation is another ball park in my opinion. More a God complex
It may have been Jennifer Bileck doing a deep dive into people behind the movement for years...their backgrounds, etc. Can't recall, it was quite some time ago but it seemed to make perfect sense when viewing the big picture. Horrific, I know!!
I don't honestly know enough about it to say one way or the other. Chemical castration maybe? Just eliminate them altogether would be my preference. I know the liberals never go for that. I really have zero sympathy for them though.
Think the worldwide flood of old. Only by fire this time. I don’t see this being rectified by man.
I think you are right... about five years ago I had this dream... I know, it's just a dream but it felt so real. I was running through a field unsure of which direction to turn and there were others running in a confused panic. I thought, "I must tell my family what is happening" and I stopped and looked up into the sky. There was a massive billowing fire, it looked like the ocean rolling in successive waves across the sky, igniting and consuming the atmosphere as it increased in size. Then a voice said, "It's too late" and I woke up. Most likely all symbolic and I have thought in retrospect that it was a warning about the plandemic. When the convid hit the airwaves I never panicked and it didn't take me but a few weeks to figure out it was all a big fat lie. I think humanity absolutely must play their part and realize that we are so much more than this body, than this singular existence. We have to stop thinking small - we are not small. The spiritual realm depends us, the earth depends on us - to evolve spiritually. That's how we win this thing.
A refining fire. The Bible speaks of being reborn, made alive by His Spirit, the Spirit of Christ the living God. But I can find nothing about evolving spirits. From dead to alive. A Newness of life.
Not from alive to evolved. Is this another gospel?
That's a great question. My sense is it is not a new gospel I speak of - but the gospel as it truly was before all the changes occurred through writ of church councils over the centuries. We are meant to rediscover the Truth in its totality; to expand or evolve our understanding of the Christ and in so doing come to understand who we really are, why we are here, and what it is we are supposed to do. Certainly, we are not here to be slaves, fight wars for the locust class, or make a lot of money and then die.
We have been nurtured by materialistic religious dogma's to this point in time and given the state of this age we are clearly entering a new age of adjustment that is always accompanied by unbelievable tumult and suffering (this started in earnest at the turn of the 20th century). The woes of this world can not be corrected through litigation and bloody wars. Time to think vertically instead of horizontally if we are going to win the war over our very souls. I have a long way to go in understanding this life but I am going to give it my best effort for as long as He gives me the breath to continue.
Well, I wish you well. I know that some church’s teachings emphasize the material, but the humble, God honoring people—and many churches do not believe or teach that. We see that error — as wolves in sheep’s clothing, but not representing Truth or sound, Biblically-derived doctrine. So, I agree with you on what is good and pure, but regard that blanket belief about dogmas as not representative, tho’ many lay hold of it to discredit historic Christianity.
True (Historic, believing) Christians do think less horizontally than vertically. We look to Christ for now and eternity (upward), but live in the world so outward, (vertically) to family, neighbors and strangers. All with love and grace and forgiveness (tho’ imperfect ‘cos it’s us)
That’s the human version of what God gave & gives — perfectly — to us.
I love God; He loved me first. I love His love and loving care for me, even through the most dreadful times — suffering & death & fear heartbreak. When I’m weakest, He carries me, at the lowest times, delivering small and wondrous loveliness as signs. Through Him & through Hs Bible, I discern between wrong and right and know the whys of it.
I know Justice and Mercy, Wisdom and Goodness — not natural understanding in me (I know me all too well) and I often fall short, gratefull for the forgiveness and access to the Father that Jesus won and bequeaths to me. This is not religion or dogma of a church. It’s simple Faith.
So that’s it. But our conversation could go on and on, couldn’t it?
Thank you for such a kind and sincere reply. I’m really glad you’re here and in the fight of all time, friend!
May God Truly Bless and keep you!
Wow! That sounds very similar to a dream a friend told a group of us about.
She told us recently, but the dream was from four or five years ago and it was in the city we live in.
Really? I wonder what her take on it was... It is always difficult to interpret the message. Interesting that she knew the location. I was not familiar with the area I found myself in.
And we think of Joseph, in the Pharaoh's prison....
So the drug that is given for chemical castration is the same one given to children as a "puberty blocker." Someone please correct me if I'm wrong about this.
AJ, I believe you are correct. But look it up.
Perhaps a twenty year sentence to a work camp isolated in the Wyoming highlands fifty miles from the nearest paved road. THAT might be legally accomplishable.
But I rather like Jesus' words on the subject: better to hang a millstone round their perverted necks and send them to sea for a short vertical swim. Society would benefit from the cleansing, and the fish would benefit as well. Soon enough such activity would cease, as eitehr the entire population of such operatives would be done away with, and/or the likelihood of a putative perpetrator being dissuaded by the likely consequences of his actions would pose a strong deterrent to such activity.
Yes! Thank you - that's exactly what I think. Because we've seen many times that this behavior seems to repeat...unfortunately those who were victims oftentimes then become the culprits later (not with everybody, but some of them). So that's what I really meant with my statement about a cure...not a cure for the pervert, a cure for society.
Yes, as we wish to benefit the creatures of that sea which we have so polluted....a kind of reparation
Chemical castration is NOT the answer! It is a matter of their heart and mind. They have surrendered to the evil that compels them to pursue/hunt their victims at any cost! There is no "cure", there is no stopping what is inside them. They have to be removed from society one way or another. Only God can stop it and so far I know of no one He has successfully stopped. Mankind still has a choice and their choice is destruction.
child rape should be a capital crime, as it is soul murder of the child. They cannot be rehabilitated, and can never be let out. They should be executed.
Pedophilia has been practiced since ancient times. Nothing new.
It would be better to stop creating them.
Children or pedophiles?
I can't answer your incomplete question because Substack won't return to the thread.
how?
Shut down the public fool system.
Shut the internet while you’re at it!
You are a nihilist?
Does that mean you?
No, that is where your earliest indoctrination and programming began.
Maggie,
Unfortunately, I couldn’t agree more.
Lobotomy or castration. Deviant sexual behavior is not something that can be rehabilitated.
Do you think pedophelia is more prevalent now or was is always this rampant? 😞
I would be willing to bet that a lot of the so called “elite” (rich, landed people and those of the so-called nobility) always felt entitled to abuse children of the “lesser” classes if they so desired. No one would be able to go against them. And sone of the poor probably also did this. Sick, deranged monsters have always existed.
Yes, the entitled feel they can use people at will. My daughter has been bartending for years and often comments on the rude, condescending behavior of the out of State wealthier clientele. I think back to slave masters as well. Those who deem themselves superior to others should be watched carefully.
Exactly. That superiority complex is very telling and very dangerous.
RL,
It’s so sad what money does to people.
These people are evil.
It’s not just people with money, but I agree that having money tends to help with giving some a superiority complex.
Homosexuals long had to keep themselves under cover, sometimes using 'marriage' as a cover, until recently. I suspect that pedophilia is the same: the recent 'let it all hang out' attitude gave them license to come into the light.
Capital crime.
You know that it can't be rehabilitated for the same reason that you don't know why it exists?
Only the spiritually blind don’t know why it exists, and only the spiritually blind don’t know that without repentance and conversion, the consequences are eternal. The only cure is to round them up, lock them up, and wake them up. “Certain individuals whose condemnation was written about long ago have secretly slipped in among you. They are ungodly people, who pervert the grace of our God into a license for immorality and deny Jesus Christ our only Sovereign and Lord . . . In a similar way, Sodom and Gomorrah and the surrounding towns gave themselves up to sexual immorality and perversion. They serve as an example of those who suffer the punishment of eternal fire.” Jude 1
Truth! Thank you!
All theology is mythology.
We will myth you.
I've been mythed all my life.
Including atheology.
Atheology is opposition to theology, which I am not.
I'm opposed to the passing off of theology as truth when it lacks the core to be such. All theology is made by (mostly) men who want to control other men.
“But whoever causes one of these little ones who believe in me to sin, it would be better for him if a millstone were hung around his neck, and he was drowned in the depth of the sea.”
Regarding the 'cure' for pedos....Boom!
Please let’s stop labeling pedophilia an illness or disease. Let’s return to what such degrading human actions were considered in the past, before Freudians and newfangled psychiatrists and psychologists medicalized them and thus placed them beyond the moral sphere. There’s a reason why pedophilia has been considered to be a severe moral corruption, widely punished legally, socially, and religiously. Every pedophiliac act is done willfully and consciously. The thought precedes the act, not the other way around. It is, therefore, a moral sin, not a medical condition beyond the fault of the “sufferer”.
Agreed ... no more diluting things down. It's a crime. Punishment by capital punishment should not be out of the question. If one is shocked by this, then the question is ... how much do we value the children? We are the only guardians children have.
Agree with your statement completely. I don't really know enough about it to say what it is, quite honestly. My knowledge on the subject is limited to what I see on Law & order, unfortunately (or fortunately! however you see it). I agree with you, I do not think that it's a medical condition deserving of any sympathy - it is a depraved immoral act. You are right about that.
Same with drug addiction. It's not a 'disease'. Users make a choice, at least initially.
Making all pornography illegal (when did online porn become legal anyway?) and other internet access to such evils punishable by long imprisonment. This is the evil which enters through the senses which then spurns evil acts. For offenders: death penalty and castration.
I'm inclined to agree with you. I've seen the addiction and the ruin firsthand with an ex of mine. And things got worse after - his now ex let me know that he continued on with the addiction and joined websites misrepresenting his age and picking up young girls while they were married. I agree with you, porn does something to the mind. Agree with you on penalty suggestions too.
The public fool system is creating the demand.
What do we do after we have executed an innocent person?
How do u know they aren’t guilty?
I don't have to know they are guilty.
When someone has been convicted and executed by a court, why shouldn't the entire court stand trial for the murder of the executed person with malice of forethought and executed themselves if convicted?
Because we are all innocent until proven guilty.
If we really wanted to stop human trafficking, we'd follow the lead of states like VA and LA, and require strict identification for access to porn.
We should make it a felony to post and watch porn.
It’ll never happen bc there’s too much money made. Just like cancer.
That puts you in distinct opposition to the authors of the First Amendment.
FIRE!!!!!FIRE!!!!HELP!!!!FIRE!!!EVERYBODY OUT!!!!Now!!!FIIIIIRRRRRE!!! HA HA.
Oops, I was wrong, oh well. Sor-ree everybody.
I bought the tickets and an hour before the show my puppy licked a toad or was hunting a toad and was poisoned. I flushed her mouth with water and raced to the Vet. I waited three hours in Vet office to make sure Dakota was ok and she was. I missed the movie. I did buy two tickets and was planning on going but it seems God didn’t want me to go. Was it overly shocking or sad? I cried a lot at the vet on Tuesday not up for more emotions this week. Thank goodness puppy ok. I’m afraid of toads but I won the fight with toad with a broom and then the excessive drooling and pacing from puppy took me to vet stat. If in florida be sure to buy Pupdefense pellets. I didn’t realize had Cane toads. Rains brought them out.
Diana,
I’m sorry to hear about your doggie. I’m glad she is. ❤️
It was not too shocking. It was profoundly sad. When you see a child missing and the parent aches to have them back. When the parent knows their child has been taken into sex trafficking. The two children in the movie did a superb job. It was a brother and sister. The sadness comes from watching a family torn apart because their children were taken.
Just posting this everywhere. Pardon the broadcasting of it —
My handbill today:
https://badlands.substack.com/p/its-about-the-children
Must Read & save.
👆🏼Please read. It’s a very thorough and well-researched breakdown of the Border crimes & the whole chain of enablers, profiteers and culpibles re child exploitation.
At least child trafficking has victims.
What does that statement even mean?
Since it is complete, only your understanding is not.
I don't understand the point you are trying to get at. Of course child trafficking has victims. We all know that. What's the point of saying that explicitly or using the preface "at least". There's an implied comparison to something that doesn't have victims - perhaps porn?
Vonu speaks in riddles. Instead of answering your question he speaks around it. I don't know what the comment means either. Guess I'm stupid too.
Vonus is most likely ChatGPT....AI. Just another demon trying to act human, but showing just how UNhuman it really is
Seems to me they like to argue and play devils advocate.
Pornography is as incapable of having victims as illicit drugs are.
Great conscious-less comment, Vonu. If you aren’t ChatGPT, you think (or not) like one.
This statement is provably, emphatically, inarguably false.
I guess you're unaware that many trafficked victims, both adult and child, are forced into pornography, some literally at gunpoint.
I don't have the experience of doing any of that like you do.
Vonus, WHAT are you?
A human being, you?
What are you?
I think Vonu is a self-ascribed evolved being. 🤖
The website is blocked. But found this topic by searching, several links showed-up.
https://americafirstreport.com/food-vax-study-confirms-development-of-oral-mrna-vaccine-thats-produced-in-cows-milk/
Much easier way to cull the world’s population. What these wicked people ignore is God’s stark warning.
“God will turn the sins of evil people back on them. He will destroy them for their sins. The LORD our God will destroy them.”
Psalm 94:23
Roman, Tim Ballard is a conman!
https://americancrimejournal.com/ours-prized-propaganda-movie-embroiled-in-controversy/
https://rumble.com/v2xpq44-all-eyes-on-jim-caviezel.html
I have yet to see Sound of Freedom. It’s a challenging topic but one crying for resolution. I read Gram’s referenced article. It is a hit piece, literally dripping with unsubstantiated ad hominem attacks. So bad it deserves a response. It claims to be authored by an “award winning expert veteran journalist.” It’s fraudulent. Read it and see. See the movie if you are so inclined. Btw. Sound of Freedom’s has succeeded despite the predictions of this “award winning journalist.”
Yeah just looking at the links I had doubts. Atlantic, Reddit, Slate, Fox… I don’t trust any of those propagandist shills.
My thought as well. Superficial on my part, I know.
Well, when you have entities that in the past have acted as shills and propaganda machines, it makes them less believable going forward. I don’t trust that they don’t have an ulterior motive or aren’t being paid to publish articles like these by those who don’t like that human trafficking is being talked about.
Exactly! After what we've just witnessed over the last three years, I have learned to question this kind of thing automatically now. They've outed themselves with their tactics.
Nah, 'superficial' is a very infelicitous framing 🙂 Actually, it's just perfect common-sense heuristics!
By their deeds will you know them, or, if we don't learn from what they have offered consistently in the past, we be just dumb stupid!
Jordan Peterson's interview with Ballard is well worth the time, even just the first 20 mins where JP lays out all the attacks and criticisms, and Ballard explains why.
According to Jim Caviezel, the movie was finished 5 years ago. We already know how Hollywood is riddled with pedophiles. It’s not a stretch to think they did everything in their power to prevent it from coming to the theaters.
If we learned anything from “Me Too,” Hollywood is the promoter and ground zero. Epstein’s client list would prove that the MSM, DC, and the current DOJ are all complicit.
Harvey Weinstein is an example of a lecherous lug of a human being. We only know about the adult women he abused. How many more were under age but kept under wraps by parents who didn’t want the notoriety.
Truth. Harvey “tip of the iceberg” Weinstein.
I was interested to see an opposing opinion, so I read this link. It's the exact opposite of sober reasoning.
A disgusting hit piece and as you say, dripping with unsubstantiated ad hominems.
It truly is a miracle that this movie made it to the "big screen"--I've been waiting to see it since I first heard about it over 2 years ago.
The same kind of malign and denigration is being directed at Robert Malone now. And many people buy it. They attack the man w.o. addressing the factual evidence presented. Very effective propaganda to direct readers away from important revelations.
So, I just read this the other day. I suppose it’s veracity can be checked, but it looks legit & is disconcerting. Whether undeserved slander or legitimate exposure — either way, disturbing! What do you think?
https://www.americaoutloud.com/could-this-man-have-saved-the-world/
Well, it contradicts itself in the first two paragraphs. I didn’t read any further.
Hello!
I re-read the paragraphs you mention. I think the point they’re making, as is clear in the rest of the article, is that Dr Malone had prior knowledge of the jab’s deadly dangers, but did not speak a warning for an entire year. He has said that he received the doses and suffered side effects.
I don’t know what to think about it, frankly, but I think he has behaved rather arrogantly with Dr Daniel Nagasi, whose substack discusses what he’s determined are likely effects of the jab on DNA. Dr Malone was dismissive about this and responded in a way that was quite less than collegial, belittling, in fact.
Well, we’ll see. At times it seems like a big game and I’m just trying to figure out what the rules are! I suppose in time it’ll all come out in the wash.
Thanks for giving it a look!
Reading one article is fact-checking? I saw the movie around 2018, when a preview was presented online. Film was supposed to be released about 3 years ago, but delayed due to Utah AG investigation. I've researched Tim Ballard and O.U.R for 3 years.
Gram,
The investigation was closed. It was a witch hunt. They didn’t want this movie coming out.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2023/5/12/23717081/davis-county-attorneys-office-closes-investigation-into-operation-underground-railroad
Of course it was closed. They movie was delayed for years while Tim was under investigation. Who cleared it for release? What else do you know about the Utah AG and the pedo/corruption within Utah and the Mormon Church?
Gram. You have been ‘outed’ as a government schill. I’m hoping that Sheriff Grady can get some folks to track you.
It was the lack of real editing that made me wonder. Thanks for your take on this.
Gram needs to do more research and watch this interview where most of her criticisms and concerns are addressed. Impressive conversation and God-embracing dialogue between three men.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTBGNEliczc
Gram is a bot. Trying to stop the investigation of traffickers.
I looked through several threads. Gram is definitely a bot. End of movie even showed original footage from the island raid, along with the children and capture of key evil players.
Thanks ...Amazing. Bots calling other people conmen, the conmen of the future now. Thanks so much C.
You think I’m a bot?
I’ll have to let my husband, kids and grandkids know. I’m not a man. And I’m not a con.
I just know that ‘gram’ is trying to stop the info on child trafficking. Why? And why are you taking up for it? Gram/Graham., whatever it/she/he is seems to have only one track.......and that is to malign any thought of child trafficking being revealed.
I have been watching the Senate hearings, grilling Myorkas on this. These people are evil. They’re behind all the aspersions on this film. And Gram/Graham is ‘helping’ them.
Roman, Seriously? Someone hears something new, and researches it for 5 minutes and they know what's up? I've communicated with you about prior articles here. I've read your substack. I'm a gramma concerned with a safe, sane world just like you are.
You’re not a grandmother. You are a con artist.
Sorry Gram if I mistook you then. All of this is so ridiculous. I'm going to watch the movie, but thanks for your perspective.
CStone,
That makes perfect sense. 👍
I'm actually encouraging investigation of a conman who is exploiting trafficked children for his own profit.
Yeah! Barry Zwicker, Richard Gage and hundreds of others were accused of profiteering off the victims of 9/11 when they started gaining traction. They didn't care about the truth at all. Riiiiiight!
Sure you are. Uh-huh.
All the hate toward Ballard is due to the subject matter being shadow banned by the elites driving it. You’re being propagandized. The film has photographic evidence from the raid that took place in real life so saying it isn’t real means you never watched Sound of Freedom, so why are you commenting?
I watched it in 2018. I've researched Tim and OUR for about 3 years.
So....Gram. You watched it in 2018. Were you horrified by the subject matter? The fact of this horrendous child abuse, rape, enslavement?
What did you do to get that information out? What did you do to try and stop it then? What are you doing now to stop it? Whatever you really are, please stop this idiotic crusade of yours. Nobody here cares.
Are you attacking the message or the man? Are the assertions and evidence in the film false? Dont make a pure attack on the man and just a link. Give an outline of your issue,
Yes, Gram, please elaborate. I have zero doubts the issue is real. Perhaps state some key points from the links so Jeff can determine if he wants to dig deeper. Or make it easier for him to dig deeper...
I posted links here last week.
The film is supposedly based on a true story. No such true story. Kidnapping and trafficking happens. Tim Ballard has not rescued one child. Film was ready for release in 2018. Delayed due to investigation by Utah AG.
https://rumble.com/v2x14oq-sound-of-freedom-vision-of-corruption-jimcaviezel-timballard.html
ttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/children-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-epidemic/620845/
https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-investigation-by-utah-prosecutor
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/14flu5d/tim_ballard_has_done_good_but_also_irreparable/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_u-6xIlvek&t=1223s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLJRePfcJtc&t=22s
https://rumble.com/v2x14oq-sound-of-freedom-vision-of-corruption-jimcaviezel-timballard.html
https://americancrimejournal.com/acj-investigates/operation-underground-railroad-o-u-r/
https://americancrimejournal.com/operation-underground-railroad-earns-47-million-in-2020/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-continues-the-dangerous-practice-of-victim-witness-intimidation/
https://americancrimejournal.com/mutiny-at-operation-underground-railroad/
https://americancrimejournal.com/american-airlines-issues-swift-rebuke-of-operation-underground-railroads-bogus-partnership-claim-with-the-airline/
https://americancrimejournal.com/breaking-news-anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-criminal-investigation-by-davis-county-attorney/
https://americancrimejournal.com/the-arrest-of-earl-venton-buchanan/
https://americancrimejournal.com/tim-ballard-and-sean-reyes-unhinged/
https://americancrimejournal.com/sound-of-freedom-2022-funded-by-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/doterra-internal-memo-states-it-found-concrete-evidence-of-o-u-r-misconduct/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-operative-donor-awaits-sentencing-for-100-million-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-s-batman-unmasked/
https://americancrimejournal.com/criminal-investigation-into-o-u-r-expands/
https://americancrimejournal.com/left-in-disgust/
sheesh, write about what the film asserts (Make the case they make) and why it is wrong. In your own words.
the rescue never happened. period. Tim Ballard never recused 1 child. Check the links posted here.
Which is what the controlled opposition (ie pedos that rule Hollyweird) would like us all to think. I’ve listened to Tim’s interview. I guess he’s an academy award winning actor then, because his account is very believable.
Some are more interested in the letter of the law rather than the spirit of the law. Don’t be one of them.
Gram, it’s almost like you’re defending the subject matter.
Kidnapping and trafficking happen. But Tim Ballard is not the hero he wishes himself to be. Take time and look at the information that has been researched for years about him and others promoting the film. There are many savior complex con-men that come from the Mormon church.
Does it matter? Why are you going all vigilante to smear a Mormon who you claim has a “savior complex?” Maybe because it feels familiar?
The film is supposedly based on a true story. No such true story. Kidnapping and trafficking happens. Tim Ballard has not rescued one child.
ttps://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/children-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-epidemic/620845/
https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-investigation-by-utah-prosecutor
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/14flu5d/tim_ballard_has_done_good_but_also_irreparable/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_u-6xIlvek&t=1223s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLJRePfcJtc&t=22s
https://rumble.com/v2x14oq-sound-of-freedom-vision-of-corruption-jimcaviezel-timballard.html
https://americancrimejournal.com/acj-investigates/operation-underground-railroad-o-u-r/
https://americancrimejournal.com/operation-underground-railroad-earns-47-million-in-2020/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-continues-the-dangerous-practice-of-victim-witness-intimidation/
https://americancrimejournal.com/mutiny-at-operation-underground-railroad/
https://americancrimejournal.com/american-airlines-issues-swift-rebuke-of-operation-underground-railroads-bogus-partnership-claim-with-the-airline/
https://americancrimejournal.com/breaking-news-anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-criminal-investigation-by-davis-county-attorney/
https://americancrimejournal.com/the-arrest-of-earl-venton-buchanan/
https://americancrimejournal.com/tim-ballard-and-sean-reyes-unhinged/
https://americancrimejournal.com/sound-of-freedom-2022-funded-by-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/doterra-internal-memo-states-it-found-concrete-evidence-of-o-u-r-misconduct/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-operative-donor-awaits-sentencing-for-100-million-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-s-batman-unmasked/
https://americancrimejournal.com/criminal-investigation-into-o-u-r-expands/
https://americancrimejournal.com/left-in-disgust/
more of the same...
Ignored
@Gram your sources are not showing much value. Have fun here!
Gram, you are completely wrong regarding these 'sources' of evidence. These misleading and untrue accusations are addressed directly here. Please watch and rest your fingers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTBGNEliczc
Randi is correct - it was a witch-hunt to delay / stop the release of the film. Just look at gram’s linked sources & determine what’s going on here. I posted thi account yesterday & Randi today. Worth another post. https://www.deseret.com/utah/2023/5/12/23717081/davis-county-attorneys-office-closes-investigation-into-operation-underground-railroad
Could gram be a pedo bot himself? Is there such a thing? An AI creature that likes storing and manipulating AI files of abused and trafficked children? Cmon Gram, fess up.
Jim Caviezel is actually my neighbor. I do not know him personally but I do know people who do. I trust him completely to not get involved in a made up story of fairytale pedos. You know you’re over the target when the ad hominem attacks start.
Ballards in Southern California were my family's neighbors.
I’m sure they were…
Have you read the article in top link? Reads to me like a propaganda article. Not current and not accurate.
Gram, whether or not Tim Ballard is con-man like you suggest, does it really matter in the grand scheme of things when you think of what this movie is trying to highlight and bring awareness to? ESPECIALLY this issue. Who cares if, like you say, the guy is lying? If this movie saves the life and frees just one child, its immaterial who Tim was. You’re splitting hairs while ignoring the enormity of the issue before us. Let law enforcement take care of Tim if he’s such a con man, that’s not your job to smear his name regardless of his guilt or not. You aren’t law enforcement, correct? Stay in your lane then…
And Gram appears to be a deep state actor who is pro-groomer.
Thanks for sharing that Gram...why do you say that? Honestly don't know much about him.
Gram is a bot.
The Great Awakening is about waking up, is it not? Why are there conmen? Because people blindly trust.
Wouldn’t think Jim Caviezel would star in a movie with such allegations about the person he plays.
I have not seen the film. I have heard rumors of what you say about Tim Ballard and so pray that he is on the good side... if not that would mean his whole family and famous people he has taken on rescue missions like tony robbins (I saw an interview w both of them about it) would all be a lie....
J Kaz,
They didn’t want this movie coming out.
https://www.deseret.com/utah/2023/5/12/23717081/davis-county-attorneys-office-closes-investigation-into-operation-underground-railroad
Yes. I was just talking about the Operation Underground Railroad action to free imprisoned women from Guatemala (where they were being held captive as sex slaves to sex tourists.)
Tony Robbins loaned his private jet to free these women. Was it all a scam? That seems like it would have engaged some pushback from Robbins if it had been. I'm skeptical either way.
But the link to the anti-OUR article was so full of half-baked and crazed language that I'd bet Ballard and O.U.R. are probably the good-guys here.
If Slate and The Atlantic and and co. are putting out hit pieces on this movie and its creator, then I’m inclined to believe the accusations are made up. Those are the same entities that pushed the masks and shots, and won’t talk about Hunter Biden or Joe’s corruption, who trashed ivermectin and generally do the opposite of telling the truth.
Yes, it is SO HARD to figure out who are white hats vs black hats these days. BUT whenever I get into an argument with someone who uses sources like Slate, Atlantic, Snopes, NYT or WaPo I pretty much disregard the info out of the gate. However, I don't reply with sources from Fox News either, as the left immediately reply with, Oh, Faux News.
Yes. I also don't tend to reply with Fox articles because I don’t really follow them since I think they’re not conservative and a lot of times they are spouting the same narrative as everyone else in the legacy propaganda media is.
True, but even a blind squirrel finds a nut every once in a while.
I don't follow Fox News but I do get people sending me things from there, and they are usually pretty decent at including links to source documents. If not, I look for them on my own. Actually, mostly the same with any news article. If they don't include links to the sources they are either corrupt or lazy. And it's why I don't like videos, very rare that the speakers have any footnotes linking to where they got their info. I had 3 people send me videos this weekend about the Brunson case being in the SC. The SC went into recess on Thursday, yet these people in the videos (from confidential insider sources, lol) talking about a SC announcement on the case coming on July 4. SMDH. Some on the right are just as gullible as some on the left. They refused to believe me when I said Brunson was dead as a doornail, even when I shared the link to the SC docket on the case. July 4 has come and gone and I have resisted the urge to 'circle back' and ask then where the announcement is....
I just operate on the principle that “news” sources and “journalists” that have lied before or been paid to promote propaganda, are likely to continue doing the same. So why would I believe them this time?
I do research for business planning for a living, and in that I have a rule of 3. Any statistic or data point that could be used as a key decision point has to have corroboration from 3 different sources. Depends on the topic, of course, but the business press is not as lockstep as the political press. But with politics infesting more and more aspects of our lives, I am writing more and more disclaimers into my reports, and spending a lot more time questioning and vetting information sources, not just the information, even from those I used to consider trustworthy, like the Census Bureau.
Exactly. And Brett Baier is not what I call an honest journalist. He was part of the 3-person debate panel, remember? Megyn Kelly, Chris Wallace, and Brett. He kept his cool, for sure. Brett is too smooth, by half. He inched his way up the Lying-for-Money ladder taking over from Brit Hume. I have never been a fan.
For a so-called award-winning journalist, it sure is riddled with improper grammar. Not buying "gram's" bs
Why was Hollywood so reluctant to put it out? It was made over two years ago. Any revelations that could hurt those in power?
Disney had it & angel studios had to buy it back. Disney didn’t want it out!
Karen,
It was made over 5 years ago. What Myriam said is correct. And Tim Ballard was under an investigation that recently ended.
They don’t want us to know about this in the US. We have the most demand. 😞
My daughter is pregnant with baby #3, the first two being preschoolers. Would it be ok to take her or would it break her heart?
I just remember reading Where Are the Children, a Mary Higgins Clark horror book, when she was young and I don’t think I slept for three weeks. 😳
I'd say it's best to wait until the kids are old enough to understand. There's some frightening scenes they wouldn't understand. Parents, though, should definitely be aware of the dangers.
Oh, I wasn’t even thinking about taking the babies, but I’m not sure their mom wouldn’t be heartbroken.
Yeah, my apologies I mis-read the question. I will say even though I'm not a mother myself yet, there were a few scenes that brought me to tears. It takes awhile afterwards to process everything, but it's better to have the knowledge than be in the dark.
I sympathize with that. On the other hand, would more hearts broken by reality tip the scale in favor of morality, action, and justice?
There was no mention of taking preschoolers in her question.....
P.S. Everything experienced by mom is experienced/absorbed by her fetus.
Absolutely not! Children should not be exposed to a trafficking movie or drag shows or .....you NEVER know what sticks in their minds....what a strange question...
I think the question was about the pregnant mom seeing it, unless I misunderstood.
She never said anything about taking children to that movie.
She asked about her pregnant ( and mother of young children) daughter, wondering if the movie would be to distressing for her. It was a valid question.
I saw it yesterday! I would not take young children. Only a few in the audience. Lots of adults crying. It’s gut wrenching.
The Sound of Freedom is rated PG-13. Others are recommending taking their teens to see it. Decide for yourself. It’s a bit of a thriller, but positive and informative. That’s what I hear. I’ll see it tonight. An interview with Tim Ballard:
https://links.truthsocial.com/link/110647688133217814
I would not take children to see this movie.... it's one more thing to destroy childhood innocence. Talk to them about it. Caution them about the dangers around us. Let them be children a bit longer...
I was expecting a visually horrifying experience. It was not. The explanatory scenes were subtlety portrayed. It was impactful in many different ways: the psychology of the pedophile, the fetishes, the altruist motives and passion of those seeking to expose the darkness. The evil.
I wish I had known this. I have been deep digging into this for so long that my heart felt it could not take it, so I did not go. I now regret that decision. Thank you for this explanation.
Bites and pieces,
Exactly. It was very sad to watch a family being torn apart. Nothing visually graphic.
Thank you for the link. Fantastic interview!
Queen...Parents need to know what is out there if they turn their back for just one second. And it is out there, waiting. Terrible, but as she is an adult, we all have to face the fact that our children are precious and people want to take them from us. If nothing else it will make her hyper-vigilant in her day to day activities and that is a good thing. She needs to see it.
I don’t think the original poster was asking if it would be ok to take the kids. It was about taking the daughter who has little kids. I’m struggling with the same dilemma. I think it would scare the crap out of my daughter and probably cause her to lose a lot of sleep. The type of kidnapping depicted in the surveillance camera footage in the film first part of the film is fortunately rare or nonexistent where she lives. Yet I want her to be aware. It’s a tough decision for a grandparent.
Take your daughter to see it
I’d say wait till another time; surely this movie will be available on various platforms.
If I were pregnant, I would not want to watch a movie like that. It would keep me on high alert for the rest of my life, worrying about my children being taken.
Don't take anyone. Tim Ballard is a fraud, a conman. He has not rescued one child. Do NOT send him anymore donation dollars. He has already stolen over $50M in donations.
Did Jeff fact-check him? No. But the truth is there. He is a conman!
https://americancrimejournal.com/ours-prized-propaganda-movie-embroiled-in-controversy/
Just read the article you posted, which was written a year ago. “May,” “Alleged,” “Allegations,” etc. Sounds eerily similar to hit pieces written about Trump. All bloviation...no substance. So glad the film is doing well and has been released in thousands of theaters throughout the nation, despite the article’s assessment that there was “no distribution to theaters yet in sight.”
It’s a hit job and this “Gram” (pretty sure is a fake acct or a bot) has shown up on every post about the movie with this link. There was an investigation in Utah that amounted to nothing and dropped. It was a hit job from its onset and we all know why. After seeing the film, we all know why even more so!!
Yeah, I can definitely understand why some people would want it quashed!
Not buying it Gram.
Simple, just block this worm, Gram!
Good. Do your own research. I've been researching Tim Ballard and OUR for 3 years.
Ok Groomer
Trying to figure out what Gram is short for? Gramercy? Gramnesty? 1/458 of a pound? Little puke doesn’t say anything different. Like a broken record. Or a bot.
That's 1/453.59237 of a pound, but now I'm just picking your nit. ;-)
Why? And how and where did you get to see it in 2018?
OK. You got my attention, so I opened it up and read it, until I got to this:
"
Not only has bizarre myths and the hysteria of human trafficking come to light in the past few years, but much of it has come directly from Ballard himself- who portrays himself as “the world’s leading expert” of human trafficking. From the silly, medically impossible and debunked QAnon belief of “adrenochroming” which Jim Caviezel claimed he was shown evidence by Tim Ballard, to outrageous statistics and figures used by Ballard that has drawn criticism from law enforcement, criminologists and legitimate human trafficking experts."
So, a better question than "did Jeff fact check him", is did you fact check this"?.
You almost had me. Join the warmonger Ukraine trolls
...reading one article is fact-checking? I've been researching corruption in the Mormon church for 50 years. There are many within it like Tim Ballard. It was founded by a man with a savior complex.
You referenced one article multiple times in support of your assertion(s). The referenced article is entirely based on liberal application of the ad hominem fallacy. Other comments apply the same fallacy. You have proven nothing. The success of this movie in getting to the theaters, despite great adversity, and its success thus far, supports the argument that Tim Ballard is making a strong and positive impact towards increasing awareness and working to eliminate human trafficking.
Go Viking!
I'm not trying to prove anything. I'm trying to share sources that provide conflicting information to Tim's claims. That's what got me started on doing my own research. Critical thinking. I know it's a lost art. I don't want to be taken in by a conman, especially one who is using trafficked children to steal donation dollars!
Ok Groomer
Once is enough; what’s your angle here?
Axe to grind, one trick pony.
Reminds me of two other posters who mostly seem to only show up when the U word is mentioned…
Uganda, right? No, Uruguay. LOL
🤣😁
Naaaaaay.
Additionally, Gram, you say Ballard has a “Savior complex”, but you also say he's never rescued one child and is a con ($)man to boot...
They can’t all be true at the same time. Scratchin’ me head here...Don Quixote goes around tilting at windmills for bucks?
Still scratchin’!
Hmmm.... Savior complex?
Not an I-must-do-all-I-can-because-CHILDREN-are-being-hurt complex?
Better a do-not-ally-with-those-suspected-of-ulterior-motives-that-is-easily-checked-out-in-501C3-annual-statements — that complex?
Oh my, Gram! I understand your stand & research, and your desire for truth. I get it. I admire your earnest tenacity.
(no, folks, I doubt Gram is a bot or troll. In fact, Gram is holding up with relatively good grace under a pretty hostile dogpile!)
— But guilt without proof is wrong, right? I am Christian. Oh, please, Gram do not judge me by corrupt professing Christians, of which there are legion!
Let’s just settle down, play nice and do the next thing, everyone —
...Which is...
💔SAVE THE CHILDREN 💜 !!
Go away censorship bot!
Someone needs to investigate you, Gram.
Do you work for Soros? The DNC? Hollywood? Do you get paid by the hour, by the post, by how many words your itty-bitty groomer hands type? Are you friends with these traffickers? Are YOU a trafficker?
I think you may well be and perhaps need to be investigated by Polk County Florida Sheriff Grady. He loves putting pesos behind bars.
Meant to type ‘he loves putting PEDOS behind bars’
Here in principle is the stand Apostle Paul takes on a similar issue.
“According to Philippians 1:15-18, it is true that some preach Christ out of envy and rivalry, but others out of goodwill.
The latter do so out of love, knowing that the author is put here for the defense of the gospel.
The former preach Christ out of selfish ambition, supposing that they can stir up trouble for the author while he is in chains. However, the important thing is that Christ is preached in every way, whether from false motives or true motives.
So then regardless of your claim the fact that this movie is available and as a result many people are becoming aware of something our own government refuses to acknowledge or seriously address.
Kidnapping and trafficking happens. The film is supposedly based on him and his experience. The $50M in donations he has collected so far, has not gone to 1 rescued or aftercared child.
Who’s side are you on Gram? It’s clear to me you’re paid opposition.
I'm on the side of the truth. I've been researching Tim Ballard for 3 years since OUR became popular and promoted through online 'influencers'. I've known of Mormon con-men for decades.
Gram: What other information do you have in addition to this article that is a year old? If you have been researching Tim Ballard and his contributions to saving children from sex trafficking - I would imagine you have more than this article. Please share.
https://americancrimejournal.com/left-in-disgust/
https://rumble.com/v2xpq44-all-eyes-on-jim-caviezel.html
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2022/01/children-sex-trafficking-conspiracy-epidemic/620845/
https://www.fox13now.com/news/fox-13-investigates/anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-investigation-by-utah-prosecutor
https://slate.com/human-interest/2021/05/sex-trafficking-raid-operation-underground-railroad.html
https://www.reddit.com/r/exmormon/comments/14flu5d/tim_ballard_has_done_good_but_also_irreparable/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_u-6xIlvek&t=1223s
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pLJRePfcJtc&t=22s
https://www.mormonstories.org/podcast/tim-ballard-and-operation-underground-railroad-lynn-packer-pt-6/
https://americancrimejournal.com/acj-investigates/operation-underground-railroad-o-u-r/
https://americancrimejournal.com/operation-underground-railroad-earns-47-million-in-2020/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-continues-the-dangerous-practice-of-victim-witness-intimidation/
https://americancrimejournal.com/mutiny-at-operation-underground-railroad/
https://americancrimejournal.com/american-airlines-issues-swift-rebuke-of-operation-underground-railroads-bogus-partnership-claim-with-the-airline/
https://americancrimejournal.com/breaking-news-anti-human-trafficking-group-operation-underground-railroad-under-criminal-investigation-by-davis-county-attorney/
https://americancrimejournal.com/the-arrest-of-earl-venton-buchanan/
https://americancrimejournal.com/tim-ballard-and-sean-reyes-unhinged/
https://americancrimejournal.com/sound-of-freedom-2022-funded-by-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/doterra-internal-memo-states-it-found-concrete-evidence-of-o-u-r-misconduct/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-operative-donor-awaits-sentencing-for-100-million-medicare-fraud/
https://americancrimejournal.com/o-u-r-s-batman-unmasked/
https://americancrimejournal.com/criminal-investigation-into-o-u-r-expands/
Okee-dokee, Gram. I’ve dutifully copied and pasted your links to my notes and will earnestly set to reading them in time. Thank you.
Just an observational note here, though. Upon cursory perusal, a few do jump out. These are ‘The Atlantic’ and ‘Fox 13’. Both are notorious Mockingbird Media purveyors of TPTB opinion. — ‘The Atlantic’ being the more sophisticated but by no means superior. That’s one of my favorite go-tos for why my sister always sounds so intelligent and wrong about everything. Explains it all. ‘Fox 13’ (like ‘Fox 2-12 and 14-insert # here) is one of those spouting the 4am talking points handed by TPTB to all the MSM “news“ shows. Wouldn’t trust either of them if I were you.
Not familiar with the ‘American Crime Journal’, but it certainly seems to be high on your reading list.
Incidentally, missing on this list are two more of my favorite go-tos to explain-my-sister’s (and other intelligentsia/elite wanna-be-er’s) ignorance: NPR and Huff-Post. They’re GREAT for checking out what’s propagandizing once-intelligent people.
You may want to check them out, too.
Well, I expect everyone has moved on. Hoping so anyway!
I would wish, Gram, to your critical thinking be added discernment. Check ALL your sites by taking a topic you know really well and see what they have to say about that. It sniffs out where they’re at pretty quick. A decent litmus test, but not perfect. Discernment.
And what have you done to expose child trafficking?
My intention is sharing the truth with fellow Patriots. I've NOT stolen donation dollars while deceiving trusting Patriots.
Ok Groomer
......, but the Oscar winning White Helmets in Syria are good guys, right?
Ok Groomer.
An Jim has one eye
STFU with your propaganda
Sounds like YOU should be investigated! Or are you just an AI bot?
Are you?
😂 bwahahahaha. Are you 6?
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No, you are, no, you are.
No AI bots are ageless.
The other bot asked this exact question when asked if it’s a bot. Interesting.
Outstanding interview with Jordan Peterson, Tim Ballard and Jim Caviezel... https://youtu.be/rTBGNEliczc
Thanks, I've saved to listen later, need to get to work. But in all this argument on the comments today re: Ballard and Caviezel, I have not looked into either of these 2 men to know if they are credible or not. (although I have to say Ballard does kind of remind me of Eric Greitens who used his non-profit to make a political name for himself, including using the donor list to raise campaign funds and who constantly cried 'witch hunt' whenever he was investigated). However, I do have a ton of respect for Jordan Peterson, one of the few I do trust these days.
I just look at which people and entities are attacking this movie and that tells me a lot.
I'm trying to follow all the fighting above saying Ballard is a conman and one thing I am confused on...so if he's a grifter, are they saying that story about him dropping his pension and going on a hunt to rescue this girl in the bowels of Colombia is all fake? Because I can't imagine any conman putting themselves in that much danger. He could've been killed like 100 different ways, and he has small kids himself to think about. The only thing I can think of that would compel a man to put himself at that much risk is a calling from Christ.
I just don’t see any real evidence for the claim. A bunch of links to articles by MSM organizations and one other site, as well as vague references to investigations by a state AG (which could lend credence but it depends on the AG and their motivations, certainly if for example, Leticia James is investigating something, I’m suspicious about why). Also claims the poster did their own research but no facts I can see to back up what they supposedly found.
He (she?) also says Ballard has a savior complex. Which is it? Can’t be both, can it...
I listened to all of this interview yesterday! It is excellent! There is much background information on Ballard and how he became involved in rescuing children from this horror. He also shares about other raids and the number of children rescued. Also revealed is another movie that dramatizes two other segments of the raid that is shown in Sound of Freedom. You will not be disappointed!
My friend and I are going to see Sound of Freedom this Saturday - it's been many years in the making and almost did not get shown at all. Thanks to a group called Angel Studios (based in Utah--it is a Mormon corporation, BTW)...the film will finally be shown across the country. May it glean new and positive action to STEM THE TIDE of this most despicable "slavery trade" of all.
You know the Mormon Church has a pedo problem just like the Catholic Church.
Of course they do! Of course! This is pretty well-known. But your statement. does not follow; it’s not a reply!
Try to set all that aside for one minute. Take off your “but, but they’re BAD!” hat, set it aside. OK. Now, can a film help to alert and alarm anyone who still possesses a working conscience — of ANY persuasion — to this MASSIVE HORROR of UNSPEAKABLE CRIMES AGAINST CHILDREN? Can it do that? If so, it’s better that it be seen than that you succeed at discouraging it from being seen, just so money and credit won’t go to one that you & others think is dishonest.
Please engage with what’s at stake here, ok Gram? Drop that bone. Drop it.
Don’t go see the movie, Gram. Fine! But DO engage with what the movie is about!
Ok?
And the entire population in the world has a pedo problem. Why are you attacking churches? Why not go after the entire world if you’re that worried about it?
Anxious to see it. Have followed Tim Ballard and his outstanding efforts for years. Love Jim Caviezel's exemplary acting abilities, all of which he chooses to personally support.
Angel Studios is aptly named! ❤️
I am going tonight. Woo! I am taking a friend who, during a card game, revealed she knew nothing of what is going on with human trafficking in America. She doesn't regard what is happening as "trafficking" or as a result of our open border or the fact that prostitution is brought to our town via another big city near us (they stream thru - as in not permaprostitutes). So tonight the banana peel will be stripped off the eyes. I hope. People would be shocked if they knew who sold children and how easy it is and how many people want them. Sick Sick SICK!
One more thing is that trafficking takes a lot forms.
Holding Haitians basically captive (they can't leave the compound) so they can chop sugarcane - right here in the US.
Caribbean Islands where they import sex workers to a compound to have sex with people working there or tourists (happens elsewhere too, but that I KNOW happens)
Chinese or other SEA people coming here as indentured servants where they are held and farmed out until they are "done" paying off debt to get here.
We allow this to happen right under our nose. We BUY products like phones and sneakers where they capture or enslave people who make the products.
I feel like it is so endemic that it is impossible not to buy or use something not created or at the expense of another human who has little choice (if any) for their life. California would do well to stop the current slavery and trafficking in their own borders before they puff their ego with the reparations talk. They play their citizens AND allow them to remain ignorant about their part in this crime.
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Headed to the they this evening! Can’t wait!
I agree and also watched it yesterday. It was tastefully done without any added tramatic scenes that I feared would send me over the edge. I knew it was big business but I had no idea to what extent. $150 BILLION worldwide. Of course, the United States of Horror is the biggest spender of child pornography and child trafficking slavery, and it a worse slavery than any other in human history. I have no pity whatsoever for those adults who use and abuse little children and wish a long, agonizing death by drowning with a millstone around their necks and forever burning in the fires of hell.
Hey, fellow Oregonian!
My thoughts exactly. ANYONE who abuses children or enables that abuse. It must stop!
I have wanted to share several posts here, but the sheer volume has jumbled up all the threads & it’s impossible, so you are my resting place. Hope that’s ok!
Please read and spread far and wide If you like them & think others will profit by them.
This is a very moving and important Dr Tess Lawrie piece👇🏼https://drtesslawrie.substack.com/p/the-sexual-exploitation-of-children
And this is a very thorough and well-researched breakdown of the Border crimes & the whole chain of enablers, profiteers and culpibles behind child exploitation 👉🏻https://badlands.substack.com/p/its-about-the-children
God Bless!
I plan to! Plan to cry some too.
It was a very good movie! I hope everyone will take the time to see this, learn about what is going on and SUPPORT Angel Studios! Thank you!