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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Then he showed me a river of the water of life, bright as crystal, coming from the throne of God and of the Lamb, in the middle of its street.

On either side of the river was the tree of life, bearing twelve kinds of fruit, yielding its fruit every month; and the leaves of the tree were for the healing of the nations.

And there will no longer be any curse; and the throne of God and of the Lamb will be in it, and His slaves will serve Him; and they will see His face, and His name will be on their foreheads.

And there will no longer be any night, and they will not have need of the light of a lamp nor the light of the sun, because the Lord God will illumine them, and they will reign forever and ever.

β€” Revelation 22:1-5 LSB

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I am so looking forward to this! Meanwhile, Jesus Christ is our light in the darkness here!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Amen!

β€œThe Lord is my light and my salvation;

Whom shall I fear?

The Lord is the defense of my life;

Whom shall I dread?”

Psalm 27:1

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

That is one of my favorites.

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Leslie Murphree's avatar

Me too Janice. We all ought to be longing for heaven. This world is not our home.

Thank you for always pointing us up to our savior Jesus. He is the only way β™₯️

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Amen Leslie MurphreeπŸ₯°

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JW's avatar

BOT

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SusanMc's avatar

Clickbait

Not appreciated

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Politico Phil's avatar

As the body of Christ in which dwells the Holy Spirit, we are to bring light to the darkness in this world and expose all the works of the Evil One as we are empowered by Him who now sits on the throne of God, the King of kings and the Lord of lords Jesus Christ.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Amen and AMEN!

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Robin Greer's avatar

Amen!

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Grateful. Jake, Truthseekers's avatar

yes that is true Jesus is The Light! and He has chosen to use mankind for His goodwill and pleasure and duties on earth accordingly, which some fail to acknowledge and refuse to accept any responsibility for the outcome of an election by not voting, dear christian it’s the least that we can do when we pray and vote, i don’t believe that is the same as enlisting for government wars though one must needs register just the same, your vote may keep us out of a war

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CHUCKY's avatar

That's great, but you know the Democrats stole the Senate seats in MI, WI, NV & AZ, right? How does Trump win those states while the Democrats eke out a slim victory for Senate? Are that many people dumb enough to split their tickets or just not cast votes for Senator?

Let's focus on exposing and fixing this first before getting all warm & fuzzy with Revelations.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Chucky - Who's to say we are not focused on fixing the problems here while also looking forward to the promises of our Savior? It is this divine multitasking and upward focus that brings believers peace in the earthly mayhem, strengthens us to stay the course, and gives us hope that transcends all the machinations of man. Also, I wouldn't describe Revelation as "warm and fuzzy." More like dreadfully fearsome and deadly for the lost but powerfully majestic and intensely fulfilling for those whose names are written in the Book of Life.

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SusanMc's avatar

I say ignore this whomever; not helpful. Not adding anything to discussion. Only division & discord.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Yes. It is the same person as previous trolls. Same nonsense and vitriol.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Yes, I'm a "troll" for disagreeing with you about the value of quoting Bible verses all over the place. Got it.

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Special Ted's avatar

I enjoy a lively chat, plus I enjoy keeping trolls busy so they have less time to bother others. If my engagement with Chuckles bothers anyone, I will stop.

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SusanMc's avatar

Such clutters up real discourse imho

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CHUCKY's avatar

"Clutters up real discourse," real discourse for you being communicating only with people who agree with you 100%.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Focus on here. Let God take care of God's work. We don't have time for your navel gazing.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Chucky, 'we' includes the man whose blog this is, right? You know he's a Christian, right? And is one of the lawyers whose work has done as much as or more than most to rescue the situation, in an earthly sense? Maybe you could consider not criticizing your host's beliefs and, if you can't tolerate them, move on to another blog. The blogosphere is deep and wide, and I'm sure you can find people whose beliefs are nearly identical to yours somewhere, if that's your goal. We here exchange ideas, tolerate ideas that we don't agree with, discuss ideas with each other, and we aren't rude and critical, which is counter-productive. I don't think you will have persuaded many, if any, to your side with insults to Janice (or anyone else).

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CHUCKY's avatar

He may be a Christian, but I’ve never once seen him throw around Bible quotes, paragraph and verse. He gets busy taking real-world action. You can believe whatever you want to believe, but keep it to yourself and get to work in the real world.

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Oma's avatar

For your search β€œDeep and Wide” in the blogosphere for something that meets your needs.

https://search.yahoo.com/search?p=song+Deep+and+wide&fr=iphone&.tsrc=apple

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Oma's avatar

Chunky, praying you find something that meets your needs, heart and soul.

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Oma's avatar

Not Chunky! Sooo sorry, Chuck. I did not mean that but I was still laughing at my own comment about Deep and Wide that I did not notice Autocorrect had given you its name for you. I apologize for Autocorrect. When (if) you listen to the link I left you, you’ll be happier.

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CHUCKY's avatar

My needs are 100% met. How arrogant and presumptuous of you to assert that because I don't share your belief system that I'm somehow missing something or "wanting" or "in need" of something.

You have the mentality of a child, so it's no wonder you'd share something like this with me.

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Oma's avatar

You are in desperate need of joy and a sense of humor. Without that it will be hard to manage in what our world is becoming today. You are participating and commenting on a substak written by one of the wisest, most giving, compassionate lawyer, Christian family man with a group of the most caring, loving, wise and diverse group of followers who have become family. An attack on one is an attack on all. We welcome your comments and opinions but you’ll be called out on disrespectful comments to any commenter probably by a number of our family.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Project much, Oma? You’re really lost!

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Special Ted's avatar

You're a bossy little troll, aren't you! I'm SO surprised that you are giving instructions to others when you don't want to follow my instructions.

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CHUCKY's avatar

I don’t follow self-defeating instructions, such as β€œdon’t focus on worldly things.”

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Special Ted's avatar

As long as you continue to worship yourself, you will always be a fool. See that dust? It’s from my sandals.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Worship myself? WTF are you talking about? And dust from your sandals? You’re really out of your mind!

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c Anderson's avatar

🎯Chuck! Ecclesiastes 3:1&6 β€œTo every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away.”

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CHUCKY's avatar

Exactly! Contemplate that and realize it's time to put the Bible down, stop trying to locate the perfect quote from Psalms, Timothy, Luke and the Gang, and Revelations and get to work in the here-and-now earth plane to stop Democrat election theft!

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Chuckles,

It’s primarily Christian men and women that are the ones working against all of the evil going on around us. It’s Atheists and satanists that are pushing their evil agenda.

Take time to look around and see the truth.

BTW: There’s no need to be rude or try to bully people.

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Jamie's avatar

In addition, it is our primary job as Christians to serve God and share His word with the world. We must get filled back up with His word, to do His will, every day to do this!

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c Anderson's avatar

Is it bullying to call a person a β€œtroll” and tell everyone to stop responding to them? Is it bullying to infer that atheists aren’t working to correct the corruption? I haven’t seen this kind of ignorant behavior since high school.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I wouldn't call it bullying. I'd say calling them out is necessary. THEN ignore them : )

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c Anderson's avatar

It gets ridiculous when people think they speak for others on a SubStack post. The author owns their post. It is a form of tribalism when someone takes it upon themselves to direct group hostilities towards a commenter who leaves a comment that they feel is unkind. Like the cliques in school, we just won’t let them sit with us at lunch? Really??

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I’m not so sure. The Spirit of Christ is pretty solid from Jeff on down to most of his readers. I don’t always avoid getting triggered by the Chuckeys out to bait us, but ignoring that type is not simply school cliquish. β€œWhoever will not receive you nor hear your words [from God’s Word], when you depart from that house or city, shake off the dust from your feet” (Matthew 10:14).

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Special Ted's avatar

Your comments indicate that high school was just last year for you. I don't care about bullying, because I love bullies! Weak, scared and impressionable fools, all of them. Easy to dissect and emasculate.

You 'atheists' can't even admit the truth of creation, so why would anyone want your opinion about anything? Followers of Christ Jesus, the Son of God, aren't as passive as you think. Would you like for the entire C&C Army to begin praying for you?

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CHUCKY's avatar

I'm not an atheist, Anderson. I believe in God, but I let God do God and I do what I can here on this mortal coil. "God helps those who help themselves?"

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My Favorite Things's avatar

C Anderson,

I did not call Chucky a troll. Saying it’s atheists and Satanists pushing an evil agenda is a true statement.

I’m not implying that there aren’t any good atheists. That’s just you being hypersensitive. I think that there are many atheists that are better human beings than Christians. However, those atheists aren’t pushing an evil agenda.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Chucky, realize it's time for you to pick up your Bible and learn how to get to work. We'd rather not dismiss you as a cranky crackpot. We’re interested in being constructive, not verbally contentious. β€œIf it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone” (Romans 12:18). And for goodness sake, stop emulating your evil avatar.

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CHUCKY's avatar

You can pick up the Bible for me. I have immediate and important here-and-now things to do. I’ll handle those things while you read Matthew and Romans and try to find passages to apply to every real-world situation in a effort to justify the belief system you’ve so heavily invested in, while doing nothing substantive to stop Democrat election theft.

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c Anderson's avatar

One day at a time. Hang in there. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W4ga_M5Zdn4

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Lorita's avatar

Amen...

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GG's avatar

We can focus on exposing and fixing elections AND read our Bibles, including Revelations.

You seem cranky.

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CHUCKY's avatar

I seem β€œcranky?” Stop being such a pollyanna and get your head out of lala land and back into the earth realm. There’s a time and a place for Bible study and this isn’t it. You throw around Bible verses while down ballot elections are being stolen right before your eyes. It’s no wonder these craven Democrats can get away with all the sh*t they’ve gotten away with over the years… SMDH.

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Juju's avatar

I’m sorry but the time for Bible study is every second of every day in every situation - as all wisdom is found within it. 2 Timothy 3:12-17 β€œIndeed, all who desire to live a godly life in Christ Jesus will be persecuted, while evil people and impostors will go on from bad to worse, deceiving and being deceived. But as for you, continue in what you have learned and have firmly believed, knowing from whom[a] you learned it and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings, which are able to make you wise for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All Scripture is breathed out by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God[b] may be complete, equipped for every good work.”

Do not forget this.

I agree with ALL your analysis about AZ and Kari Lake, not the least because AZ is an entry point for the control of the cartel and her opponent is the son of a cartel boss, BUT … insulting, belittling, or ridiculing Christians for finding and using wisdom and comfort in the Bible is shooting yourself in the foot. All strength and power needed to fight any angle of this mess can be found within the pages of the Bible.

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CHUCKY's avatar

You’re lost. You have your nose in the Bible while Marc Elias and his ilk are out there stealing your elections and your country.

Down ballot elections are even more important than presidential elections. Look at the damage they've managed to inflict by focusing on state governor, AG, Sec of State, District attorney, and state judicial elections - elections that the vast majority of people don't pay attention to.

Maybe if people focused their attention on these elections instead of trying to locate a Bible verse to apply to every freakin' situation, we'd be in a different position?

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Juju's avatar

And now we ALL see quite clearly you are nothing but a dangerous troll/dissenter among us meant to sow discord.

None of us are ignoring the down ballot because of our noses being buried in the Bible. Most of the people I know are quite aware and ACTIVELY doing whatever they can to help. You couldn’t possibly understand the ability to do both given your arrogant heart.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Awww, now "we ALL" see that I'm a "dangerous troll/dissenter" because I'm calling you out for focusing on your Bible when you should be focusing on election theft? No wonder the GOP is always behind the 8 ball. People like YOU can't handle dissent or being called out when you're wrong. You think Jesus is going to fix it when you have Marc Elias in the here-and-now stealing your elections?

Remember "Render unto Ceasar what is Ceasar's, render unto God what is God's?" You need to work on understanding that quote. Read it over and over again until it sinks into that thick head of yours, because you Bible people aren't so good at the Ceasar part...

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Special Ted's avatar

Hey Chuckles...weren't you a silly little animatronic doll with no soul but somehow possessed by evil? You talk tough for a toy. Lol, seems legit.

Maybe you should read that Scripture again and consider that Jesus was telling us to NOT worry about things of this world. Duh!

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CHUCKY's avatar

Special Ted. Perfect handle for you. Maybe change it to "Special T(Ed) and it would be even more apropos. LOL!!!

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Special Ted's avatar

You complete buffoon. (bless your heart.)

If you were a regular here at C&C (or if you did your research) you'd already know that I chose my screen name BECAUSE my wife is a special ed teacher.

You can't insult me, because I am more intelligent than you. But I certainly love it when you try, so fire away, little doll!

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Juju's avatar

Wow β€œChucky” you just CANNOT fathom a person being able to do BOTH at the same time. You’re so sure that if we are in our Bibles we aren’t able to focus on election theft too. 🀣🀣 I bet you can’t walk and chew gum either.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Because you Bible people obviously AREN'T able to do both at the same time! Down ballot Senate elections were just stolen in MI, WI, NV & AZ and you guys are still busy quoting Timothy and Revelations!

Let's sic Timothy and Revelations on Marc Elias! That'll stop him!

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Juju's avatar

If this were true Jeff Childers would be a complete and utter failure, as would more than 3/4 of Trump’s campaign and he never could have won. I see plenty of Christians doing both. You’re just angry and disillusioned, and unfortunately sheltered from a wider/larger Christian population that proves you to be an absolute joke.

But keep touting your lies and misperceptions. As far as I can tell they are landing like a bag of wet dirt.

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Karen Cudzilo's avatar

Revelation

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

"GOP is always behind the 8 ball"??? Did you notice the GOP just won a trifecta, or have you been too busy fretting your little broken doll head over Marc Elias? What have YOU done about him, genius? (Rhetorical question. You got nothin.)

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CHUCKY's avatar

Hey political genius: That’s some trifeca! Trump wins an electoral and popular vote landslide, but all the GOP can manage is a nearly bare minimum majority in the House and a tenuous 3 seat majority in the Senate? The Democrats stole 4 Senate seats (MI, WI, NV & AZ), and who knows how many House seats and statewide down-ballot elections and nothing was done or is being done to stop it. And now Trump is siphoning off the bare minimum House majority by naming Stefanik and Waltz to his administration. How do you think things are going to go in the midterms, which traditionally tilt to the party not in the White House? Get a clue, wake the hell up.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Chunky,

You’re so full of hate! It’s amazing. Have you considered that your perceptions are incorrect?

I’m not a Bible thumping Christian, but I would never condescend to say most of them do nothing and try to hurt or smear them. Christians are the ones that secured elections. Christians are getting more involved in local politics. Christians are the ones removing pornography from school libraries. Christians are the ones working to make a better place. Christians are fighting atheists and satanists, they’re not just sitting around doing nothing.

Somebody

Somebody did a golden deed;

Somebody proved a friend in need;

Somebody sang a beautiful song;

Somebody smiled the whole day long;

Somebody thought, β€œTis sweet to live”;

Somebody said,” I’m glad to give”

Somebody fought a valiant fight;

Somebody lived to shield the right;

Was that β€œsomebody” you?

-Anon

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CHUCKY's avatar

I’m giving my viewpoint. I believe I’m correct. You are free to believe whatever you want, but realize that certain beliefs make you weaker in the real world.

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CHUCKY's avatar

"Full of hate" for telling the truth... ok, whatever you say.

You're just as bad as the leftists.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

That’s untrue. I have completely different beliefs. You’re not telling the truth, you’re expressing anger towards Christians because you don’t believe that they’re capable of reading a substack, commenting and being politically active. I think you underestimate people. Maybe reevaluate the way you express yourself. Instead of alienating people by accusing them, why not ask them what they’re doing. Just having the picture of Chucky says a lot about your state of mind. Think about it.

Please enlighten us as to the good works you’re doing.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Whatever you say.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Chucky, you're wasting time typing. That's not winning any elections, either. Please go get busy doing something you consider productive for winning elections.

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Porge's avatar

You took my words! Thank you!

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CHUCKY's avatar

I'm doing something very productive by pointing out how much time you waste quoting Bible verses and trying to apply them to specific situations in an effort to justify and prop up your belief system. This is time doing that can be spent doing tangible, real-world things to prevent and fight Democrat election theft.

I'm providing you with a great service. Hopefully, it'll eventually sink into your (thick) heads.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Weak stuff there, Chucky. You've wasted enough of our time for today.

Why do the heathen rage and wallow in their own vanity? They plot against the Lord and His Anointed. They say, β€œLet’s run away from God!” He who sits in heaven laughs at such fools. Then He gets in their faces and tells them what’s what. Or something like that. Read a book, dude. Start with Psalm 2. Then shake your D head, dive into the Gospel of John, and get well.

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CHUCKY's avatar

If you think it’s β€œweak stuff” and that I’m wasting your time., then don’t read my comments. And for goodness sake, don’t reply. After all, I’m just a β€œtroll,” according to one of the other geniuses on here. Just ignore me and keep reading Psalms and all the rest.

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BelleTower's avatar

But … all things observable are part of a spiritual story that is unfolding. Trust me, a little enlightenment in the heat of battle is no bad thing. Peace

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Alliteration A plus.

Cranky Chucky.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Here's another alliteration for you:

Airhead Anita

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

LOL. Chuckling Chucky.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Chuckling Cranky Chucky.

Chuckling Cranky Critical Chucky.

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BelleTower's avatar

You have a gift my friend

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c Anderson's avatar

β€œCranky” is an evaluation. How about Chucky being β€œfocused” on a very big problem? That is a God-given talent.

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GG's avatar

Who isn’t focused on it in the Republican Party? We all know it’s going on and there was a massive effort to render it ineffective in 2024. Do you assume Republicans are simply going to forget about it now that they won? No, the effort will continue. Over the holidays, Scott Presler is going to put together an outline of how he did what he did and make it available to us to use going forward in all 50 states. Trump is going to work on national voter ID to vote. The RNC is also going after voter fraud.

How many elections were stolen in 2020 and 2022? It is going to take a while for that information to be dragged from the cheaters. But I know of a handful this election, which is a vast improvement over the last two elections (and likely more - I’ve never believed Obama really won his second term). So forgive me for not getting my panties in a twist when I see advancement. I feel hopeful for the first time in four years.

I’m sick to death of being anxious the left is going to wreck the country, and my children and grandchildren will grow up under an oppressive regime. I’m going to enjoy this hope while I pursue the MAGA/MAHA agenda. If Chucky wants to continue to foam at the mouth, he’s more than welcome. I have better things to do.

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SusanMc's avatar

I say everyone ignore him/her. Useless rhetoric contributing nothing but discord.

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BelleTower's avatar

Disagree. We welcome all voices even the irritable ones. We are winning with numbers so not the time for thinning. Chuck is welcome here in my book, let’s hear what he has to say to see if there is any merit in it.

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Peace's avatar

Chuckles is free to voice his opinion - however, insulting individuals in this space is not acceptable imho.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Right, don't pay attention to the others who are insulting me. Just pay attention to when I dish it back onto them.

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SusanMc's avatar

I haven’t seen anything useful yet; just slamming this & that.

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CHUCKY's avatar

You haven't seen anything useful because you're too dense. You only acknowledge those who agree with you 100%. Everything else in invalid in your narrow bandwidth.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Thanks, BelleTower! It's interesting how fragile a lot of these folks are! I believe in God, too, but I let God handle God's work and focus on the here-and-now, at what I can control and do. They are presumptuous enough to believe they have God figured out, that they can quote the Bible and apply it to real-world scenarios and *poof*, it makes it so!

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CHUCKY's avatar

"Foam at the mouth." LMAO!!! Everything I've said is very reasonable, but it seems like "foaming at the mouth" to a close-minded person like yourself, who's too invested in sitting back and justifying your belief system by quoting Bible verses to see how it's limiting your ability to be effective in stopping Democrat election theft.

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Fla Mom's avatar

c Anderson, he's only focused on criticizing people here. I suggested that he go away where he can work harder on elections. Some of us here do work hard on elections, but all he has is criticism that elections in corrupt states aren't yet perfect, even though they're much closer than they were 4 years ago.

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c Anderson's avatar

Christians understand that persecution exists and is a part of acting in faith. The story of Paul/Saul comes to mind. Chuck may be irritating, but grouping up against him isn’t the answer. After all, that is a form of censorship and that hurts everyone.

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GG's avatar

But I thought we were weak (per cranky Chucky)? And yet you say we’re ganging up on him. Which is it? Are we weaklings who can’t defend ourselves and our nation, or are we a bunch a toughs who stand up to what we perceive to be wrong?

Chucky can be cranky all he wants; we don’t have to bow to his ugliness. The people who comment here, by and large, agree with his premise that cheating is ongoing and something needs to be done about it. We disagree that the way to do it is to go after those who study, and find comfort and peace, from reading scripture.

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CHUCKY's avatar

You can call me "ugly" all you want, GG. You're not very attractive yourself. Your bad attitude isn't a good look.

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c Anderson's avatar

I don’t know if you G, are weak or strong, but Chuck has as much right to be heard as you do. When you call a person β€œcranky,” it is a personal attack on his character. Does Chuck β€œtrigger” you? How sad that we have young women posting videos on TikTok shaving their heads and swearing off sex with men because β€œtrash” voted a Trump win. Isn’t it time to tone things down a bit?

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Fla Mom's avatar

Chucky is being heard, but sadly what he has to say is primarily insults to Christians. He has been replied to, imho, politely. None of us here other than Jeff have the power censor him, so he's not being censored. He's being gently corrected. I hope he learns to do away with the anger inside him that comes out as ugliness to others. We Christians believe we know how to drain that anger, but our Way 'triggers' Chucky, very obviously.

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CHUCKY's avatar

I'm not insulting Christians. I'm telling you that you're wasting your time quoting the Bible and trying to apply verses to everything that occurs in the real world. It's a waste of time.

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Fla Mom's avatar

We're praying for you, Chucky.

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GG's avatar

It’s not a personal attack on his character. It’s not even an attack on him. I made an observation: he seems cranky. He does! It’s an opinion, which I’m entitled to express.

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c Anderson's avatar

You believe you are helping others by calling Chuck β€œcranky,” so being called deplorable is okay with you? Don’t answer. I’m not interested in how blind you are to any personal reflection.

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GG's avatar
Nov 15Edited

I said he seems cranky. It's an observation. Here's another. You seem thin-skinned. I don't give a flying flip what Hillary Clinton thinks of me. I'm not interested in your constant haranguing over a minor observation. Constant manufactured outrage over nothing is why the country is in trouble. It's done to silence anyone who thinks differently than those in charge. You're not going to police my speech.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Why don't you "go away," Fla Mom? Go somewhere where you can stay in your little bubble and not hear another opinion or any criticism? It's obvious that you can't handle it, even from someone who's on the same team, politically...

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LMWC's avatar

In Michigan, Rogers, the Republican, and Slotkin, the Dem, were in a statistical tie, less than a tenth of a percent, and no one calls for an audit, and Rogers conceded the race. Why does it take Michigan almost 24 hours to count their votes? And it’s all in two or three urban counties, not the rural votes coming in.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Finding enough β€œballots” to β€œwin” takes time!

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Susan G's avatar

Pennsylvania is still counting.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Well, PA has Marc Elias on the scene to bully with lawfare. Where's our Marc Elias in MI, WI, NV & AZ?

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CHUCKY's avatar

No sh*t, really?

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Barbara ( PortlanderπŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«)'s avatar

Oregon is still counting πŸ€¦πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

LMWC Agree 100%

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Carlos's avatar

It baffles my mind, right?

Let’s just pretend for a moment, I’m a demonrat and I vote for DJTrump and for my demonrat senator….

This people think that we are that stupid.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Well, I do think there was some vote splitting. For instance, Hawley won MO by a large margin but less than Trump's margin, and he actually lost in my county by a small margin even though Trump came out with a narrow win in my county. ~2000 more votes in the Presidential election than in the Senate election in my county. I was an election judge and some people literally sat down to vote, then got back up in less than a minute. We had a very long ballot and there is no way they completed it that fast. My guess is some just voted for president and left everything else blank. Yeah I think the D's cheated in the usual places but MO has very limited vote by mail and returns in my county were ~95% in by 9:30 Tue night.

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c Anderson's avatar

One county is not indicative of a β€œtrend.” It is known as an outlier.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Go to https://www.270towin.com/2024-election-results-live/senate/ and click on any state. Ohio, 61K more votes for president than for the senate race. Texas, ~90K more votes. TN, ~60K. Marcia Blackburn won her race despite getting ~50K fewer votes than Trump. Clicking on a half dozen states, only Montana had more votes in the Senate race than for President.

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c Anderson's avatar

Yes Donna, I get you, but your county had a difference of 2,000 votes. You failed to tell us what the population of your county is or what percentage of the 2,000 votes was. πŸ‘€ is always important, but a statistical analysis that points to a trend requires 🧐.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Donna, people who have poll-watched before, or have served on canvassing boards, know how true what you say is.

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79SmithW60's avatar

You are right Carlos. I think both can be true at the same time. We know the Dims always cheat, but this election also had to have a significant amount of Demonrat cross over vote this cycle, just given the lack of regular Dem households not putting signs out this year (yes, there were still the braindead "blue no matter who" commies), where there were a ton during the plandemic 2020 year and past years. Some of those type of voters also "like" divided government both at the national level (Congress divided and Congress vs. President) and at the state level (federal vs. state offices). They can also virtue signal their Dem congressmen and senators but preserve their local insulation with their Republican state senators and governors.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Interesting. Our neighborhood had at least 6 Harris signs this year vs ZERO Biden signs in 2020. Having knocked doors enough I already knew who the hard core libs were but they did not have signs out for anyone in 2020 and this year there were Harris, Senate race and even local race signs out at D households.

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Susan G's avatar

Thanks for this strong statement. I first said this on November 6 "How can Trump have no coat tails?" I can understand PA being close, to an extent, because Casey's father is beloved and Casey pretends to be a middle-of-the-roader (remember, a recount is likely) I can maybe understand Arizona, because of Lake's post 2020 activities (that's my personal feeling that I may be projecting). But Michigan and Wisconsin?? I want to find out why, too.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Kari Lake was at Trump’s side at every AZ rally and appearance. I don’t think that many people voting for Trump would split their ticket and not vote for Lake. The Democrats stole this Senate seat because they can’t allow her to be in any position of power and influence where she can possibly get more eyes and resources into investigating and proving their election crimes.

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Anita from Tucson - Now In MI's avatar

Cartels in AZ don't want her. When she was running for governor, she said she would declare an invasion at the border and shut it down, long before Abbott sorta did it in TX. She wasn't kidding.

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Politico Phil's avatar

This is why they have literally done everything in their power, at the risk of being obvious, to keep her out of office.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Exactly.

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Susan G's avatar

This reply is to Chucky. This is the third or fourth time the stack hasn't stacked right for me.

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rolandttg's avatar

I agree, but there are some serious numbnuts out there. Can't remember the state, Arizona I think , but 70,000 people cast ballots for Trump but did not fill out the senate box.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

But people not bothering with the down line votes would likely be somewhat equal from both sides. Actually I'd say dumbocrats would be more likely to vote for the female Indian president and not care about the all the White guys on the rest of the ballot.

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rolandttg's avatar

Be that as it may, it does not excuse there idiocy on our side. I expect demonrats to be stupid, but we need not follow suit

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Donna in MO's avatar

In my county alone, there were ~2000 more votes in the Presidential race than there were in the Senate race. Statewide, in MO, 32K more votes cast for President than there were for Governor. We shake our heads at people who didn't even bother to vote, but there were definitely some who voted for President who did not bother to vote in other races. I'll take it, as Trump winning the popular vote is as significant as the electoral college win, maybe even more, but it does limit the coat-tails benefit in the down ballot races.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Maybe they're too busy having Bible study to figure out how to fill out a ballot properly? But, hey - they can quote Revelations paragraph and verse! Woo-hoo!!!

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Special Ted's avatar

Hey Ground Chuck...why don't you stick to insulting me and leave these nice folks alone. Are you scared?

By the way, when did The Revelation of Jesus Christ turn plural? Did you recite it aloud and hear an echo?

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CHUCKY's avatar

I already gave you enough zingers, T(Ed). You want more? Stop being such a masochist!

And Iron Maiden titled the song β€œRevelations", so I’ll go with that!

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Special Ted's avatar

No wonder your theology is retarded. I hope replying to me cost you valuable trolling time. If not, you should keep replying until I tell you to stop.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Until you tell me to stop, T(Ed)? Ok, Big Boss Man.

You would know a β€œretarded” theology, being an expert on all things retarded… (this is way too easy for me…) LMAO!!!

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FedUpInOR's avatar

I’ll tell you how: people want trump, not the lying, weak republicans party. Signed someone who voted for trump but not a lying house rep with an R beside her name who had all rhetoric excuses when I emailed her office asking why the government can investigate us regular people without a warrant but not any in congress.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Well, and how did the MI race get called 3 days earlier than the Senste races? Seems fishy to me, finding ballots

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CHUCKY's avatar

So what are you saying? It’s not clear from your comment.

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BelleTower's avatar

I disagree, Chuck. It is only through the revelations that we may understand what we are up against. Scripture gives believers courage, energy and wisdom

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CHUCKY's avatar

I agree. Have your spiritual revelations, however they manifest to you. But keep it to yourself and figure out how to help stop Democrat election theft here and now. (Hint: quoting the Bible to Marc Elias isn’t going to help.)

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Peace's avatar

Charles - how much valuable time have you wasted on this substack insulting people - time you could've spent on keeping an eye on the elections. Best to take your own advice and not split your time with anything other than election business.

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CHUCKY's avatar

Obviously, I haven’t wasted enough time here yet because I haven’t had the pleasure of insulting your lame ass yet.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Philippians 3:20 But our citizenship is in heaven. And we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ, 21 who, by the power that enables Him to bring everything under His control, will transform our lowly bodies so that they will be like His glorious body.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

This little light of mine I’m gonna let it shine.

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Robin Greer's avatar

Amen!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

❀️

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

πŸ™ŒπŸΌπŸ’Ÿ

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Oma's avatar

Janice, I immediately thought of one of my old favorite worship songs when reading this scripture. Inhale...

https://music.apple.com/us/album/how-we-need-the-river/445636141?i=445636225

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Here We Are's avatar

Paradise Restored, by Pastor David Chilton, Free (PDF) on Garynorth.com (scroll for the free stuff) or can be bought from various vendors including AMZ. Revelations, has already happened. We are now in the stage, with Bible-based assurance that, before the second coming of Christ, The Gospel will be victorious throughout the entire entire world.

Every Christian should read this book. And anyone who desires a better world. If you are not a Christian, you still benefit from living in a culture that adheres to Christian traditions. It's all about perspective. Jesus already came and changed the world and it is still changing today. Lies that have been going on for decades regarding our government are being exposed. This is good!

Christians need to quit moaning about the state of the world and just hoping for Jesus to come save them from their current situation, because He ALREADY DID! Exit the bunker mentality, Gird up to continue to fight right now, and keep spreading the Word. Ephesians 6:12

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Susan Banks's avatar

Yes!!! Our Crystal Trees will be seen again!! We are Ascending as we speak! Get away from the TV and news. Find Source! Go Barefoot and get grounded back to nature. It will automatically happen if you do. It’s an amazing life! Trust God!! It’s He who wants Peace and Love and wants our attention! There is some amazing information coming out about how we are going to see where we came from. How we are going to accept our past life and any Trauma we experienced. Our mind has been blocked from its full potential because of several reasons! One is Flouride! Stop using it! Use baking soda or make your own Toothpaste. Flouride calcifies our Pineal Gland and our Thyroid and Pituitary Glands. We need those to be pure and free from Flouride. Two is Food. And we are on the losing side of that. But, if we think ahead and grow our own, that will stop! But our soil is Tainted! Pray over it just like you do your Food. It is still better than what we can buy.

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