Dave, as I posted elsewhere this morning: "We all need to examine ourselves when we begin thinking that we need to kill massive numbers of people because we are afraid of what they might do. The NeoCons have been pushing for war, and ultimately nuclear war, in both Europe and Southwest Asia for decades. Theirs is a genocidal bloodlust th…
Dave, as I posted elsewhere this morning: "We all need to examine ourselves when we begin thinking that we need to kill massive numbers of people because we are afraid of what they might do. The NeoCons have been pushing for war, and ultimately nuclear war, in both Europe and Southwest Asia for decades. Theirs is a genocidal bloodlust that we must finally reject. How many declared and "undeclared" wars have we initiated because we have blindly followed the NeoCons rhetoric?"
Above all, Christians should be able to examine ourselves to discern whether or not we have the mind of Christ. But always the excuse is we cannot co-exist with "them" because they 'intend' to kill us. What that means is we must kill them first. This is the EXACT same logic we used to justify the Vietnam War, the Iraq War and many others. This is the same logic of the NeoCon's rhetoric in regards to our relations with Russia.
Has anyone ever supported such logic with an appeal to the teachings of Christ? I shouldn't need to answer that. When Jesus was persecuted by the Jewish religious establishment who sought to find an excuse to kill Him because He exposed their hypocrisy to God's word, was His response to attack and kill them first in "self-defense"? No, in fact, when they came to arrest Him and Peter struck the ear of one of them, Jesus said, "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword." Matt 26:52 How is it that the most powerful nation on the planet, who has the ability to incinerate anyone with a push of the button, lives in such fear that she must constantly go around the world seeking monsters to destroy? Have we not become the destroyer?
The religious establishment of Jesus' day are the theological predecessors of the NeoCon Zionism of Israel today. As I commented elsewhere, the dystopian theology of Zionism is a political ideology that strives to derive legitimacy from Judaism. Zionism is not an expression of Judaic faith or piety. Rather it is a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY that seeks to impose it's will by force and it has even infected the American Christian church to the point that Christians cannot distinguish between Talmudic Judaism and Biblical Christianity. And as can be seen among the Israeli people, even there is a tension between Judaism and Zionism.
Until the American church seeks reformation and revival, we will continue to suffer and perish because we refuse to give up the sword. America needs to repent and seek the mind of Christ. This must begin in the church which has abandoned her prophetic role in society and "the people perish for lack of knowledge" of God's word.
The oddity is that the Zionism grew out of a hatred towards Judaism (itself compromised) which the Zionists saw as an impediment to their secular aspirations. In effect, Zionism was invented out of a hatred for that which they claim to be, but are not ... and only pretend to be when it suits their purpose.
Even more bizarre, Christians have come to think of themselves as being Judeo-Christians when this is an impossibility, and moreover, a house divided. Meanwhile, the alleged Judeo part of the equation is busy persecuting the Christian, alleged or actual.
There is a factor un-mentioned in your post: islam. Jews and Christians and Buddhists and Sikhs can co-exist just fine side by side.
Islam's stated goal is worldwide conversion, by force. Infidels must submit, or pay the jizya tax or be killed.
Christians and Jews are faced with an implacable enemy, who have been following the koran's instructions to lie to us about the true goals of islam.
Its a death cult, not a religion. Women are property. Gays must be murdered.
moslems continually chant, "Death to the Great Satan (America)."
Israel is surrounded by moslems, and Iran has been waging war via its proxies, hamas and the terrorists in the Gaza strip and in Yemen. Israel has a right to exist.
Israel has never waged a war to gain territory or eradicate a country. None of its neighbors can say that.
It would be stupid for the USA to ignore that USA and Israel are both prime "enemies" of islam.
What is smartness? What is intelligence? As soon as I think that I have a fix on this, the smart and intelligent ones confound me by acting very stupidly.
But I keep thinking this, more war derails the cash flows necessary to restructure the Western World. Especially so since the United States does not have the industrial capacity as in the mid-twentieth century. China does, which is sort of the point of any restructuring. But what do I know?
You cause me to think that the church has become schizophrenic. Definition: a serious mental illness that affects how a person thinks, feels, and behaves. It's characterized by a breakdown in the ability to distinguish between reality and delusion, and can involve a range of symptoms including hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized thinking.
At the very least, subject to cognitive dissonance.
Bizarro World! A Wasteland of Madness. And as bad as anything ever recorded.
It is, when things have been run to the extreme, easy to see that the Bible is the guide to sanity. And all else is perdition of the most unsavory sort.
Dave, as I posted elsewhere this morning: "We all need to examine ourselves when we begin thinking that we need to kill massive numbers of people because we are afraid of what they might do. The NeoCons have been pushing for war, and ultimately nuclear war, in both Europe and Southwest Asia for decades. Theirs is a genocidal bloodlust that we must finally reject. How many declared and "undeclared" wars have we initiated because we have blindly followed the NeoCons rhetoric?"
Above all, Christians should be able to examine ourselves to discern whether or not we have the mind of Christ. But always the excuse is we cannot co-exist with "them" because they 'intend' to kill us. What that means is we must kill them first. This is the EXACT same logic we used to justify the Vietnam War, the Iraq War and many others. This is the same logic of the NeoCon's rhetoric in regards to our relations with Russia.
Has anyone ever supported such logic with an appeal to the teachings of Christ? I shouldn't need to answer that. When Jesus was persecuted by the Jewish religious establishment who sought to find an excuse to kill Him because He exposed their hypocrisy to God's word, was His response to attack and kill them first in "self-defense"? No, in fact, when they came to arrest Him and Peter struck the ear of one of them, Jesus said, "Put your sword in its place, for all who take the sword will perish by the sword." Matt 26:52 How is it that the most powerful nation on the planet, who has the ability to incinerate anyone with a push of the button, lives in such fear that she must constantly go around the world seeking monsters to destroy? Have we not become the destroyer?
The religious establishment of Jesus' day are the theological predecessors of the NeoCon Zionism of Israel today. As I commented elsewhere, the dystopian theology of Zionism is a political ideology that strives to derive legitimacy from Judaism. Zionism is not an expression of Judaic faith or piety. Rather it is a POLITICAL IDEOLOGY that seeks to impose it's will by force and it has even infected the American Christian church to the point that Christians cannot distinguish between Talmudic Judaism and Biblical Christianity. And as can be seen among the Israeli people, even there is a tension between Judaism and Zionism.
Until the American church seeks reformation and revival, we will continue to suffer and perish because we refuse to give up the sword. America needs to repent and seek the mind of Christ. This must begin in the church which has abandoned her prophetic role in society and "the people perish for lack of knowledge" of God's word.
The oddity is that the Zionism grew out of a hatred towards Judaism (itself compromised) which the Zionists saw as an impediment to their secular aspirations. In effect, Zionism was invented out of a hatred for that which they claim to be, but are not ... and only pretend to be when it suits their purpose.
Even more bizarre, Christians have come to think of themselves as being Judeo-Christians when this is an impossibility, and moreover, a house divided. Meanwhile, the alleged Judeo part of the equation is busy persecuting the Christian, alleged or actual.
There is a factor un-mentioned in your post: islam. Jews and Christians and Buddhists and Sikhs can co-exist just fine side by side.
Islam's stated goal is worldwide conversion, by force. Infidels must submit, or pay the jizya tax or be killed.
Christians and Jews are faced with an implacable enemy, who have been following the koran's instructions to lie to us about the true goals of islam.
Its a death cult, not a religion. Women are property. Gays must be murdered.
moslems continually chant, "Death to the Great Satan (America)."
Israel is surrounded by moslems, and Iran has been waging war via its proxies, hamas and the terrorists in the Gaza strip and in Yemen. Israel has a right to exist.
Israel has never waged a war to gain territory or eradicate a country. None of its neighbors can say that.
It would be stupid for the USA to ignore that USA and Israel are both prime "enemies" of islam.
Ahh, as it turn out Tucker has a brand new interview with Sachs.....................
Jeffrey Sachs: Ukraine/Russia Dangerous New Escalation, & the Dark Forces Pushing for War With Iran
THE TUCKER CARLSON SHOW
•
PREMIERED 1 DAY AGO
•
131 MINS
Jeffrey Sachs on how to save the United States from getting sucked into utterly catastrophic wars with Iran and Russia.
https://tuckercarlson.com/tucker-show-jeff-sachs-2025?watchedTime=71.79035
What is smartness? What is intelligence? As soon as I think that I have a fix on this, the smart and intelligent ones confound me by acting very stupidly.
But I keep thinking this, more war derails the cash flows necessary to restructure the Western World. Especially so since the United States does not have the industrial capacity as in the mid-twentieth century. China does, which is sort of the point of any restructuring. But what do I know?
....and as does Armstrong. https://www.armstrongeconomics.com/international-news/israel/israel-attack-iran-to-stop-trump/
I think it is OBVIOUS...TBC
2nd Smartest Guy agrees with you - as do I..............................
https://www.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/psyop-ww3-commencing-on-the-eve-of
You cause me to think that the church has become schizophrenic. Definition: a serious mental illness that affects how a person thinks, feels, and behaves. It's characterized by a breakdown in the ability to distinguish between reality and delusion, and can involve a range of symptoms including hallucinations, delusions, and disorganized thinking.
At the very least, subject to cognitive dissonance.
Bizarro World! A Wasteland of Madness. And as bad as anything ever recorded.
It is, when things have been run to the extreme, easy to see that the Bible is the guide to sanity. And all else is perdition of the most unsavory sort.