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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Cry me a river. 

Considering the whopping number of small businesses (people) that were callously “Wile E. Coyoted” off a steep precipice and then unceremoniously squashed flat by a tractor trailer crammed full of quasi-human M-13 gang members (room and board provided and medically insured, of course) under the orchestration of the previous administration this shut down pales in comparison. The government - in its current bloated state of Far Left dysfunction (at present undergoing a purge for the ages) - has declared itself unworthy. That “non-essential business” line of crap cuts both ways. Apparently there was a little more shelf life in that pointless term then they bargained for.

I fully expect the ensuing irrational high pitched screeching and bug eyed hysteria from the globalist nutjobs to be decidedly more pronounced than its customary fever pitch. This could be a 4 cuppa day.

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Ray Bob's avatar

Completely agree with everything you said, but I'm a little puzzled by the statement, "it could be a four cupa day" personally ,I drink four cups, before I drink four cups and then I drink four more.☕️☕️☕️☕️ I might have a coffee problem😁

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

There's gotta be a shot for that...have you tried espresso??😁

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M. Patrick McCrary's avatar

Like my daughter says, "Sleep is just a symptom of caffeine deprivation." But GASP, I think this acronym does a good job of sizing up the gang we're up against: Globalist, Academic, Secular, and Progressive. Maybe LAME: Liberal, Atheistic, Marxist, Extremists would help to categorize them even better. Against Trump they are becoming a LAME GASP though and for that I'm grateful.

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SomeDude's avatar

those acronyms go great with the AWFLs that contaminate societal Karen-friendly organizations.

Affluent White Female Liberal(s)

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William Myers's avatar

And don't forget the help Trump has, at long last, from the mass awakening of the previously, in denial, propagandized, sheeplike AMERICAN PEOPLE! Trump has a veritable army of "it can't happen here any more" troopers. The Globalists played their hand fast and loose during the Plandemic and got caught, FINALLY.

And thanks to your daughter for the witty description of sleep. I think I will use that one from now on. Caffeine deprivation...eh?Good one.

My daughter was raised with "question authority" instructions from dad since grade school. She is now 37... these days I have to remind her "question it, don't hunt it down and kill it". The times, they are a' changin'...

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Positively Paying It Forward's avatar

"Perhaps not coincidentally, two years ago, Venezuela and China cemented a close formal relationship described as an “all-weather strategic partnership,” which includes Chinese participation at nearly every level of Venezuela’s military and economy. Reports from defense journals say Venezuela is preparing to buy advanced Chinese fighter jets, which would also introduce Chinese military advisors and infrastructure into the South American country."

Note to Jeff's readers:

Notice that since the US Navy blew up a boat off the coast of Venezuela, there's not been another one since?

Why you ask:

https://armyrecognition.com/news/navy-news/2025/venezuela-threatens-us-navy-with-su-30mk2-jets-armed-with-kh-31-ship-killer-missiles

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/putins-massive-show-of-strength-near-u-s-russian-warships-arrive-in-venezuela-after-wargames/videoshow/111460064.cms

And now the tensions ongoing in the Asian/Russian Pacific Ocean:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/warships-on-move-china-joins-russia-in-chilling-response-to-trumps-nuke-subs-deployment/videoshow/123082481.cms

Pentagon going to need lots of that autism Tylenol at this rate.

If Drug Cartels are the real issue (and not the largest oil reserves in the world) then why would Russia & China be hanging out with these Drug Lords?

Crimes for Drug use in Russia and China include the death penalty.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Espresso shots > Covid shots 😁😆

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Stacy's avatar

As I’m always telling my husband, I only have a coffee problem when I don’t have coffee.

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Duckduffer's avatar

"People say I got a drinkin' problem

But I got no problem drinkin' at all…"

Midland

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Jennifer's avatar

Judge addressing the accused: "You have been brought here for drinking."

"Okay, Judge, let's get started!"

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆😂

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

Hank Williams III has a song:

"My drinking problem left today.

She packed up all her things and went away"

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

People say I have a drinking problem.

But I drink, I get drunk, I fall down, no problem. ~The dwarves of Ironforge.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

Cue the scene from Airplane where Julie Hagerty announces they ran out of coffee.

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Stacy's avatar

174280643145368907543215853742111590900009999999990000000 POINTS AWARDED!

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Maha's avatar

You may, but at even 4 cups, statistically, you are reducing your risk of dying from many causes!

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Hektor Bleriot's avatar

Primarily, you can cross off dying in your sleep! ☕ ☕ ☕ ☕

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Jay Horton's avatar

Good one, Hektor!

Later Jay

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Maha's avatar

HA! Indeed! Have several cups and be prepared to meet your maker wide awake!

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SushiRoll's avatar

Two POTS here!

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Bandit's avatar

Dad! I've missed you! 😉😊😋😂🤣

Some days he'd drink 3 pots. I don't know how he ever slept.

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Donna  P's avatar

😆😆😆😆

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Susan Nickels's avatar

I appreciate your blogs & mostly agree with you. This time I have a son-in-law who works for a government tank facility and he has a family with three little ones to take care of & this shutdown effects their family. I understand some things have to be done but I would prefer Congress doesn't get paid & Americans who do work at important government jobs should not be furloughed.

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Essay33's avatar

Congress absolutely should not get paid when they shut down the rest of the government. Like term limits though, they'll never vote for that, nor anything that genuinely affects themselves.

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Critical Thinker's avatar

That's a noble thought, but their official "salaries" are a tiny percentage of their kickbacks, so I doubt they care too much about it.

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David Nelson's avatar

When I'm elected to Congress, I'm going to take only a Dollar a Year in salary, donating the rest to the top 10 charities voted on by my constituents.

I pledge to live only on the bribes and insider information.

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Benj's avatar

I bet you could run on that policy and win.

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David Nelson's avatar

Guys are running--and winning--on COMMUNISM for Pete's sake! "I promise to take EVERYTHING YOU OWN and also SUCK YOUR BLOOD AND EAT YOUR BONES. I'll probably PUT YOU INTO A CAMP AND WORK YOU TO DEATH."

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Ruth H's avatar

😂😂😂 at least you’re honest

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David Nelson's avatar

I'm sincere too because I know voters eat that kind of stuff up.

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Maha's avatar

Hey, just ask them to consider it, they'll probably vote themselves a pay raise in response.

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Christopher Graf's avatar

How is it that they have the say/vote on their salaries and terms of employment if they work for "We The People" where's the checks and balances doesn't sound right when you look at all the other things the founding fathers put in place to prevent bad actors having control.

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Dorota's avatar

I taught that GOP announced that they wouldn't not get paid during shot down

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Carrie's avatar

There are truly important jobs in government, like that of your son-in-law. I hope he keeps his job… at the same time, I hope those doing “make-work-jobs” lose theirs and find something useful to do in the private sector. The government is way too big and populated by way too many employees.

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CStone's avatar

Joe legal works in construction, has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention....

Joe legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

Joe legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline.. etc.

Jose illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month....

Joe legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe legal's and Jose illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.

Joe legal pays for his children's lunches while...

Jose illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

Jose illegal's children have an after school ESL program.

Joe legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

Joe legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...

Jose illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe legal and Jose illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.

Do you get it, now?

If we vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens,... we are part of the problem.

It’s way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!

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J. Fast's avatar

Thank you! I live in Colorado (a Blue Sanctuary state thanks to Denver-Boulder Metro area) and the impact of hoards of illegals is rotting the state. Great post. I am so sick of leeching illegals. The anchor babies have “special status” and are pushed into opportunities to become doctors and other professionals —tutored all the way through…the result is shoddy professionals and dysfunctional society.

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Bandit's avatar

Thank-you for taking the time to type that all out. Every f'n dumbocrap in the nation, should have to have that tatooed on one arm or the other, so they have to see, daily, what they voted for and do to every citizen in the country, including their ignorant selves.

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Bruce Seibert's avatar

This is why I see non English-speaking people in Walmart, 4 0r 5 kids in tow, carriages piled high, and fistfuls of $100s and $50s in the checkout line?

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Bandit's avatar

Yes, it is. I had one ask me, in Walmart, to pay for their stuff. I had enough self restraint to not cuss her and her mother out. This is a scam they are running. Show you a few items and ask you to pay. When you are stupid enough to say yes, they have another person with them, bring up another cart, after you have scanned your card, piled high with high dollar items that you now have to pay for also.

EDIT: I saw this in an email or on Utoob. I only remember the scam and that I saw a warning about it and how it worked.

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Benj's avatar

That op would be loudly shut down by me the moment the other person came with the other cart.

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Silent scorn's avatar

Wow. 🤯

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CraigN's avatar

Are you handing money to those on the corner workin' the cardboard too cuz then I got nothing for ya..

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webstersmill's avatar

Thank you. Really like how you presented the comparison of Joe and Jose. All those benefits add up, a very detailed list. What would you estimate the total initial wages PLUS the value of all those benefits? And I believe there is a cash stipend of at least $500 in many cases. And as an aside, my car insurance (required by state to maintain registration) has a charge for ‘uninsured motorist’. Today, I heard reported that there are at least two states - NY and CA - where drivers can have a CDL license with the driver name noted as ‘NOT PROVIDED’. Can this be true? Have these agencies (read:legislators) totally lost the plot?

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Christopher Graf's avatar

I don't know if this is related to what yours talking about but I got hit by a woman after calling the insurance company she provided I was told I cannot claim there isn't a policy for her. Long story short, the car is insured by her son but she is excluded from the policy obviously because she's a bad driver and insurance would be very expensive to have her on the policy. But that's California law that they can do that so DMV doesn't care as long as the car has insurance the car does have insurance but the driver's excluded. And I'm guessing somebody else could be driving the car that's not on the policy but as long as they're not excluded from the policy. So I had to take him to court and got just in a bunny to cover parts not my labor. And since my car is salvage I can't get full coverage.

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Christopher Graf's avatar

This is exactly how it plays out. Only recently, since it's being talked about in non main media, have I leaned from people I know (illegals) that have started to tell me what they are receiving. This is exactly how they are doing it. It's really starting to piss me off.

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JBell's avatar

Brilliant!

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CMCM's avatar

Hmmm.....sure seems like Joe Legal's fate would include all those clueless Democrats.

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Lori's avatar
Oct 2Edited

Yes, way too bloated. Fed employees have it too good, better than the average American. All their benes are unbelievable and we pay for those benes yet receive none. So if they are furloughed, thats too bad. Where are they when Americans are laid off or fired at will? Welcome to the real world furloughers.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Especially, during c19, for NOT taking the vax. I did't hear ANY of them speaking up for those people. They have children, bills etc the same as any government employee.

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B.B. Lewis's avatar

Spot on! Furloughs sting? They can try surviving in the private sector's reality.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And those who sanctimoniously said small businesses needed to shut down for “safety” during Covid and shrugged their shoulders when those same small businesses had to close 😕

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Lori's avatar

Indeed.

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DaveL's avatar

Its size also gives it unprecedented political leverage—its size alone is a “threat to democracy.”

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BBS's avatar

Way WAYYYYYYY too many employees.

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Bitsy54's avatar

I have a hard time “forgetting” the people who lost their jobs because they refused to be lab rats to Clot Shots. I’ll bet MANY of the government works never shed a single glue tear for those families.

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Bitsy54's avatar

Old Chinese saying…”all is well until they come to gore YOUR ox” I’m paying no attention to the wailing of those whose gravy train came to a screeching halt.

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Susan's avatar

This whole situation is going to be messy

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NoWay's avatar

All workers will get back pay. The military works and gets paid when govt resumes. Civilian workers don’t work and will get paid when it resumes. We have been both before. The firing thing is new. Pay just went out so it will be 2 more weeks before missing paychecks.

100% congress should not get paid nor be allowed to go home until the budget is passed!

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Dorota's avatar

They should get paid when they succeed in passing a balanced budget each year.

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Anne Emerson Hall's avatar

The way our elected officials enrich themselves in office, I doubt they’d be fazed by going unpaid.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Amen. They're not in it for Mom, apple pie and the good ole American Way.

Later Jay

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CMCM's avatar

And don't forget they are only temporarily not being paid. They will get back pay and not lose a penny.

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Bitsy54's avatar

I hope Congressman Norman’s bill to NOT pay back pay gets passed

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Princess Thunderbutt's avatar

And they need to stop taking August off.

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Starsky's avatar

I know, right? This ain’t Europe.

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Susan Nickels's avatar

I understand he will get back pay but they are young & anxious since they have 3 little ones.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Can’t you help them during this shutdown (which is usually short lived)?

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NoWay's avatar

I know. It probably won’t last for the 2 weeks.

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Susan Nickels's avatar

Praying 🙏

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Steelhands's avatar

Would it not be a violation of federal labor laws to demand work without pay? Zero dollars per hour is kinda below minimum wage. I think they will get paid.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

They’re not working!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I don’t think they’re working though since they’re furloughed.

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Carrie's avatar

Maybe even more importantly, they should lose funding for their staffers. I’ll bet each member has 500k-1m in their budgets for staffers, seeing how many people work for each member

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Starsky's avatar

My father worked for the airlines and through the 70s and 80s, it seemed like he got furloughed every Christmas or was at least threatened with a furlough. My parents kept a special savings account just for furlough padding.

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Ruth H's avatar

I have a son who will work and not be paid during shutdown. It’s happened before and he told me not to worry, no help needed, as he always plans on the possibility and saves for it. He’s as conservative as they come. So proud of him. He also has children and sends his kids to a better school option than the local school, so that’s an added expense.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for your son for planning ahead and making arrangements to get through the rough patches!

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Ruth H's avatar

Thank you. He paid off his student loans early, then helped his wife get hers paid off. He’s watched me save&pinch raising two boys on my own and still able to pay off my house early.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Many kudos to him and also to you for being a good example!

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Ruth H's avatar

Thank you. I owe my parents deep gratitude of teaching me to save, save, and save (even if it’s just a few dollars on payday). They lived through the Depression and knew what hard times were. I would babysit as a teen and when I came home from a job my Dad would ask how much did I earn and how much did I plan to save. He never forced it, just planted the idea.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Tank as in think tank, oil tank, water tank?

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Susan Nickels's avatar

Military

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Cinghale's avatar

Septic tank…

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JLock's avatar

And I prefer that I had not been laid off twice over the years from private sector jobs. The United States is effectively broke. Something has got to give.

If you are working for the government, save your pennys for a rainy day. (Same goes for the private sector).

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Yup, I get it. Getting caught in the crossfire is an untenable and most unfortunate position. Sucks big time for good peeps.

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Dena's avatar

Definitely agree, congress should not get their pay in the event of a government shutdown. They caused it.

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Karmy's avatar

There’s no incentive for them to resolve the issue because they have no skin in the game (although they are millionaires but that’s a separate issue)

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Nancy Benedict's avatar

Our son is a Hotshot for the Forest Service and I told him we would help him until he gets the retroactive pay.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

Don’t work for the gov’t.

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Jo Highet's avatar

He will get back pay, they all do.

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Sharon's avatar

Praying God uses this “for good” in your son’s life and family.

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Kathy's avatar

Aren’t they furloughed with pay?

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Bandit's avatar

Yes, they are. Any other business shuts down for awhile, your butt doesn't get paid.

I feel sorry for NONE of them.

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Shelle's avatar

I think it's so important to manage the shutdown in such a way that incidents like you're describing don't happen. During Obama's shutdown, agencies that ordinary citizens were required to use were impacted. It's so unfair for the government to say you must use this agency for all the bureaucratic hoops we require you to jump, but then have that agency unavailable.

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Graphite's avatar

Trump said he would continue the military funding I'm sure!

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Princess Thunderbutt's avatar

My understanding is that he will be paid retroactively. There are many make-work jobs in government. If it’s one of those jobs? Sayonara. With good cause.

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Delightful Designs's avatar

"I fully expect the ensuing irrational high pitched screeching and bug eyed hysteria from the globalist nutjobs to be decidedly more pronounced than its customary fever pitch"

Oh I hope so!! :D

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Juju's avatar

The hilarity of the past two day’s trolling Trump memes has put into my head another, more appropriate song. Given that far left extremists are like cockroaches in our government, the following chorus has been replaying in my head nonstop. 🤣

🎵🥁“La cucaracha, la cucaracha

Ya no puede caminar

Porque no tiene, porque le falta

Marijuana que fumar” 🥁🎶

Of course find your favorite verse/stanza as there are several worthy to choose from. Olé!

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Essay33's avatar

YES! Now I'm surprised they didn't go with that song.

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CStone's avatar

Joe legal works in construction, has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention....

Joe legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

Joe legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline.. etc.

Jose illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month....

Joe legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe legal's and Jose illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.

Joe legal pays for his children's lunches while...

Jose illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

Jose illegal's children have an after school ESL program.

Joe legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

Joe legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...

Jose illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe legal and Jose illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.

Do you get it, now?

If we vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens,... we are part of the problem.

It’s way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I saw not too long ago that many if not most of the low skilled people in construction in California are illegals, and they make $19 an hour. At that wage, they are living two or three families to an apartment.

It said that immigrants with documentation make something like $29 an hour on average and citizens make $38 an hour - which isn't enough to live on in California.

Obviously the people that hire illegals for construction WANT to hire illegals. If their employees got work visas, I bet most of them would start asking for raises, and the employers would wonder whether there are illegals they could hire to replace them.

There would be a new equilibrium set, but the citizens would have lower wages than the $38 they have now, the immigrants with work permits would have less than the $29 they have now, and we'd have more illegals to take some of the jobs the newly legal immigrants have left behind.

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David Nelson's avatar

"Void" me a river.

Put the Beast on a colon cleanse.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Iron Maiden: The Number of the Beast comes to mind…only far more disturbing….and absolutely necessary.

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Carol M.'s avatar

Yes! That “non-essential business “ crap cuts both ways. Finally✊🏼🇺🇸

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Patrick Crebbin's avatar

Who will control the "climate change" thermostat since the government has shut down? Maybe an ice age will occur as all the "hot air, foul smelling air" is sent home on furlough? Government is the "fart" that warms the globe.

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Dreamom3's avatar

My husband cringes when I call my cup of coffee “the sweet nectar of life.”

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Jay Horton's avatar

So, while all the cringy stage theatrics are happening, the real stuff of nightmare is going on. Remember, we were discussing CBDC, hmmmm??? You can put lipstick on a pig but,.......

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=No7hgBzXxio

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXkJExMcLjM

Later Jay

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

There's a lot of talk about President Trump eliminating jobs under cover of the shutdown. But he wouldn't really have power to eliminate them permanently, would he?

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

One hopes! 🤞🏻🤞🏻🤞🏻

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CStone's avatar

I hope and pray that he does!!

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Bandit's avatar

He should.

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CMCM's avatar

There's always a Biden or Obama judge to step in and reverse whatever DJT does.

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Bgagnon's avatar

🎯🎯🎯!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

👏👏👏

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Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

“I love You, O LORD, my strength.

The LORD is my rock and my fortress and my deliverer,

My God, my rock, in whom I take refuge;

My shield and the horn of my salvation, my stronghold.

I call upon the LORD, who is worthy to be praised,

And I am saved from my enemies.

The cords of death encompassed me,

And the torrents of ungodliness terrified me.

The cords of Sheol surrounded me;

The snares of death confronted me.

In my distress I called upon the LORD,

And cried to my God for help;

He heard my voice out of His temple,

And my cry for help before Him came into His ears.

Then . . . “

— Psalm 18:1-6 + the first word of v. 7

✝️✝️✝️

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Thanks Janice. In these weird times I have to constantly remind myself to keep my eyes on Jesus. He is my rock and salvation.

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Carlos's avatar

The only one.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I focus on the Golden Cord that ties my soul (through the sealing of the Holy Spirit) to the Bright Kingdom of Jehovah Jireh!!

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Thank you, Elon, for challenging the glaring bias of Wokepedia, the festering swamp of lies.

Long overdue.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

A while back Mr. Musk offered Wikipedia $1 billion to change it's name to "dickipedia". A bunch of us on X said a much better use of the money would be setting up an alternate online encyclopedia. We're very glad he did it. Wokipedia has had a LARGE and malignant effect on how people perceive the world.

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

It is said that all man-made phenomenon (organizations, inventions, etc.,) eventually become their own opposite. We definitely see this in the case of Wokepedia, which, for a long time now, has been disseminating countless lies, smears, and cherry-picked data.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

hmmmm.

vaccines the saviour of human health comes to mind. . .

mRNA jabs are quite easily now seen as the opposite.

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

News becomes fake … food becomes poison … health care becomes disease management

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glenn's avatar
Oct 2Edited

Wokipedia is one of the top sources for AI language models, and it regularly shows in AI bias tests. Big job for Musk ahead, since Wikipedia is massive. That said, most articles are okay if you avoid anything political, medical, or religious/spiritual. If you want to look up how a vacuum works, great, but avoid the above categories.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

Perhaps the way to jump start is simply plagiarize most subjects with copy and paste while focussing on the biased ones . . .

Is the content copyrighted, patented? I don't believe so. How can it be with 62 editors and laissez-faire rewrites at will?

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glenn's avatar

I can’t find an anything that says Wikipedia is proprietary. In fact the original concept was community input and management of information, which makes it open source information. The gatekeeping committee came much later. So like you say, take in the information, and work on the biased ones. A good use case for AI algorithms to identify such areas that need corrections.

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pretty-red, old guy's avatar

yep, so, IF we are in fact correct, Elon could have his AI braniac team vacuum up the entire Wiki diatribe and in a few days pump out the sane version for "the rest of us."

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glenn's avatar

Certainly, I would say a large portion would be done very quickly. Reworking the biased part will take some time. There are not many good sources for that information, and there needs to be a ”boots on the ground” effort with journalists and researchers to collect useful data and write meaningful articles, if even to feed Grok.

Most aren’t aware, but many of the AI companies hire coders to develop answers to hypothetical and actual questions on solving programming problems. I submitted an application for such a job, and these projects are outsourced to 3rd party outfits. The general public thinks the AI is just a smart coder, and would be wrong. Much like the Wizard of Oz, there’s lots of smoke and mirrors behind the AI curtain.

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CMCM's avatar

I've learned to not trust anything Wikipedia says other than to perhaps confirm a birth or death date of someone. Dickipedia is the perfect name for it.

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Willy-nilly's avatar

Wishing they'd just build a different website without AI. The resource usage of AI is insane. I can't believe we're going to waste all this energy (water and electric) that people actually need to do web searches... Also, data centers are horrible and we're in a data center boom.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DGjj7wDYaiI

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Agreed

AI's consumption of electricity and concomitant environmental havoc bear witness to the staggeringly incomplete thinking and recklessness of its proponents.

Furthermore,

Society's mass adoption of AI is akin to boarding a commercial flight not knowing the destination, with pilots not knowing how the aircraft actually works.

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Peter Mac's avatar

I recently watched a "restored & remixed" release of Kubrick's 2001: A Space Odyssey" (1968) and was fascinated by its astronaut (Dave Bowman) versus computer (HAL 9000) conflict, the dramatic centerpiece of the movie in my opinion.

I won't spoil it for anyone who's never seen it, or didn't have the patience to wade through its slow and deliberate exposition, but you can always skip ahead to the space stuff!

But what struck me the most was both the astronaut's life-risking heroics AND his ability and technical knowledge of exactly how to "disable" HAL. All while HAL continues to calmly discuss the situation "What are you doing, Dave?", "I admit I've been feeling poorly, Dave, but I'm much better now.", "I think you owe me an explanation, Dave", etc.

Although dated, it was clearly ahead of its time and remains one of the creepiest and most gripping scenes of conflict between Man & Machine I've ever seen!

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CitizenA's avatar

“2001: A Space Odyssey” was disturbing. Have you also watched “I Robot” ?

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Peter Mac's avatar

I remember reading it, but not the movie... who was in it and who directed it?

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CitizenA's avatar

I ROBOT is a 2004 American science fiction action film directed by Alex Proyas, from a screenplay by Jeff Vintar and Akiva Goldsman. It stars Will Smith, Bridget Moynahan, Bruce Greenwood, James Cromwell, and Alan Tudyk.

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When one AI is spread across hundreds of servers, it might be impossible to shut it down!

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Willy-nilly's avatar

Just unplug it!

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

I think AI would have thought of that and would have hidden back-up generators and be imbedded into hundreds of servers and paid people to reconnect it and it would have restart systems hidden in YOUR computer to restart it if you try to unplug it. Remember, AI is smarter than you and I and the rest of the world put together. We are trying our best to make it that way. It could be the BEAST of Revelation... the "Beast System". (Love your handle: "Willy-Nilly")

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

While I hardly consider myself a doomsdayer, there are countless mechanisms which could 'take out' such infrastructure, from natural to man-made.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Good analysis. I worry about the water usage more than the electricity though. We can develop new sources of electricity. Water is finite.

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Bandit's avatar

More than you know.

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

Agreed

Water is the measure of a healthy people

How we respect it, care for it, and find joy in it

Everywhere

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Lynne Morris's avatar

True. Water is the first thing necessary for l8fe on another planet.

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jewel's avatar

has anyone kept up with the Omega substack? no need for data centers in their approach

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Willy-nilly's avatar

Do you have a link to that?

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Hoffmeister's avatar

google " Omega4America ", has website

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Swanlzs's avatar

I like that analogy

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Fabes55's avatar

The interesting thing is all the energy required just might make nuclear power great again. Data companies are starting to build nuclear power plants. Microsoft is even trying to start up one of the Three Mile Island reactors!

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Willy-nilly's avatar

You should check out project ITER in France. Very impressive!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gD3dMzv1vIQ

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glenn's avatar

Agree. There’s nothing wrong with the Wikipedia model of simple hyperlinked basic text base web pages. No AI needed. Just a massive database and a body of curators that stick to facts and truth.

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Astragale's avatar

Tucker C has a must-see interview on X with Larry Sanger, a founding member of Wiki.

He explains what sources are allowed (only woke ones) & which are BANNED.

Describes the editing process - mostly by anonymous editors.

Discusses the intel services input.

All Wiki political content needs to be defunded & defunct.

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RI Daisy's avatar

Sanger stated his recommend 9 theses to correct the failures of Wikipedia. Perhaps, Musk should consider Sander's proposals, especially the public feedback/ranking/adjudication on an entries (similar to social media).

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PamelaZelie's avatar

👏👏👏

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Carrie's avatar

I myself am gleeful about a government shutdown. I’m tired of shutting down parts of the government being described as something to be avoided at all costs. Hopefully this results in massive shrinkage of government- 50% would be a good start 😉

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Welp? Biden (deep state) created something like 400k jobs out of thin air in the last two years, so yeah. There’s 400 k gonna need to

Learn to code. Or Serve.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Pick crops until the robots take over.

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CMCM's avatar

That's how Biden padded the employment numbers...all the job increases were in the government sector. I guess they thought no one would ever notice.

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Lori's avatar

And what the left is asking funding for is abysmal.

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Bandit's avatar

Well, you know, illegals ARE way more important to the dumbocraps than real citizens. They all vote for them.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Till the $$$$ runs out!!!

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B.B. Lewis's avatar

Me too. I'm also a firm believer in the 80/20 rule. So yes, I'd agree 50% is a good start - and 80% needs to be the goal!

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

The salient point is that nearly no one notices. There is your answer for how much should be cut.

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Maha's avatar

Depends on when and where. During one shutdown they were arresting people for walking BLM trails out in Redrock Canyon outside of Las Vegas, and the people didn't even have to enter a park to access the trail they were arrested on. That was a trail I had been on when I lived there many times, and never saw a ranger anywhere near it. The shutdown appears to instigate vindictiveness in some government employees, I suppose.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Petty bureaucrats, petty actions. Who needs them?

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Maha's avatar

Indeed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah that’s totally a great strategy to get sympathy from the public too 😑🙄 Not just vindictive but vindictive AND moronic.

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Skenny's avatar

"Washington Monument Syndrome"

Courtesy of Dingy Harry Reid and B. Hussein Obama

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Maha's avatar

You surmise correctly, I believe it was during the Obama era shutdown.

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Taiga Rohrer's avatar

They always trot out the hostage puppies during shutddowns... NPS as the worst.

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Karmy's avatar
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USFS employees can be petty tyrants. Our development touches forest service in areas and the USFS wanted to do some logging and wanted to have private logging contractors cross over multiple private properties on a single lane mountain road used by all property owners vs using a road they built on another property previously. When our HOA board told them we would prefer they used the road they built rather than use our road the Ranger actually said that if there was a wild fire in our development maybe the USFS might not respond. Unfortunately we could not prove he said that. ☹️

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😳

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RunningLogic's avatar

😡😡😡

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Dina Barzilai's avatar

arresting them for what? and on what charge?

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Maha's avatar

Trespassing. Perhaps they created a new charge, like entering a government reservation during a shutdown, even though the parks and the Bureau are managing OUR lands. You sound as outraged as I was, Dina.

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Dina Barzilai's avatar

I’m asking because some people tried this BS in California during Covid if you weren’t wearing a mask, or a restaurant refusing to close—but there was nothing illegal they could be charged with. You can be trespassing in Calif if something is open to the public. And as far as restaurants, the government (in San diego county at least) posted “cease and desist “ notices online. 😂. They know there was nothing legal they could charge people for. So that situation immediately made me ask what the feds could possibly charge someone with just for walking on BLM grounds. But…if it was closed, I suppose there might be a way to get them for trespassing. Even though technically if the arrested were taxpayers they were paying for the park to exist so it seems like they could argue they had a right to walk there. I wonder if cattle that grazed on BLM ranches got citations 😂. Can you tell I can’t stand the clown-show dba Government? lol

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Maha's avatar

Well the COVID debacle unleashed significant authoritarianism--and it appeared to be concentrated in the Leftist run states like California. (And horrifically experienced in Australia, where many police officers descended into complete thuggery during Covid.) Beachgoers were arrested, walking outside without a mask MIGHT get you detained. Why? Because, COVID!!!! It was a social experiment from government creeps. The government shutdowns were another opportunity, perhaps, for government workers to "ride herd" on the public. They attempted to justify the heavy handedness by citing examples of individuals who vandalized park property, or started a fire that went out of control at a closed campsite. Those actions were not okay. The hassle of citation or arrest for simply walking a relatively remote trail was overreach; I don;t know how many of those incidents wound up being dismissed when challenged, but they NEVER should have happened.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I totally agree!

Obama-nation created a plethora of federal jobs. I knew several REAL federal workers at the time. They were livid since the majority of new hires were of the Woke/entitled persuasion.....and the work load of real workers close to doubled.

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Joe legal works in construction, has a Social Security number and makes $25.00 per hour with taxes deducted.

Jose illegal also works in construction has no Social Security number and makes $15.00 per hour cash, under the table.

Ready?... now pay attention....

Joe legal: $25.00 per hour × 40 hours = $1,000.00 per week or $52,000.00 per year. Now, take 31% away for State and Federal taxes. Joe legal now has $31,231.00.

Jose illegal: $15.00 an hour × 40 hours = $600.00 per week or $31,200.00 per year. Jose illegal pays no taxes. Jose illegal now has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays medical and dental insurance with limited coverage for his family at $600.00 per month, or $7,200.00 per year. Joe legal now has $24,031.00.

Jose illegal has full medical and dental coverage through the State and local clinics and emergency hospitals at a cost of $0.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal makes too much money and is not eligible for food stamps or welfare. Joe legal spends $500.00 per month for food or $6,000.00 per year. Joe legal now has $18,031.00.

Jose illegal has no documented income and is eligible for food stamps, WIC and welfare. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays rent of 1,200.00 per month or $14,400.00 per year. Joe legal now has $9,631.00.

Jose illegal receives $500.00 per month Federal rent subsidy. Jose illegal pays out that $500.00 per month or $6,000.00 per year. Jose illegal still has $31,200.00.

Joe legal pays $200.00 per month or $2,400.00 per year for car insurance. Some of that is uninsured motorist insurance. Joe legal now has $7,231.00.

Jose illegal says, "We don't need no stinkin' insurance."... and still has $31,000.00.

Joe legal has to make his $7,231.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline.. etc.

Jose illegal has to make his $31,200.00 stretch to pay utilities, gasoline and what he sends out of the country every month....

Joe legal now works overtime on Saturdays or gets a part time job after work.

Jose illegal has nights and weekends off to enjoy with his family.

Joe legal's and Jose illegal's children both attend the same elementary school.

Joe legal pays for his children's lunches while...

Jose illegal's children get a government-sponsored lunch.

Jose illegal's children have an after school ESL program.

Joe legal's children go home.

Now, when they reach college age...

Joe legal's kids may not get into a State school and may not qualify for scholarships, grants or other tuition help, even though Joe has been paying for State schools through his taxes, while...

Jose illegal's kids go to the, 'head of the class' because they are a minority.

Joe legal and Jose illegal both benefit from the same police and fire services, but Joe paid for them and Jose did not.

Do you get it, now?

If we vote for or support any politician that supports illegal aliens,... we are part of the problem.

It’s way PAST time to take a stand for America and Americans!

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

A glowing dawn for all humanity if 50% is achieved.

I feel it's possible

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Principled Pragmatist's avatar

But if it turns out it’s just another paid vacation for them when they return, not OK. This dysfunction must stop. At least make it a layoff. Suspend all federal salaries except for true essential personnel.

Start to fine Congress and don’t pay them until they do their bleeping job.

I live in the Washington DC area. Yoga class was jam packed today, no doubt with furloughed government workers.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

(Edit)Regarding the Green New Scam: If you have a minute, check out this post regarding solar farms in New York. And if you have it in your heart, contact Russ Vought about cutting federal spending to New York in an effort to stop this nonsense…might be easier during the govt shutdown. We need to protect our farmland and keep it out of the hands of Canadian corporations. This is beyond ridiculous. Hochul is a nightmare.

https://open.substack.com/pub/houseofgreen/p/its-worse-than-i-thought-thousands?r=19oj26&utm_medium=ios

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Martha's avatar

Thank you for posting this. I live in rural central NY. Many, many acres of former farmland in our county are now covered with solar panels. Residents have spoken out at the town and county commission meetings but have been completely ignored by their elected representatives. We’re not very far from Cornell, and I have often wondered why Cornell has not joined in the fight to stop the conversion of farmland and green spaces to solar and wind factories. I’m glad to read that Cornell reps are speaking out now, but maybe it’s too little & too late.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

Fight, fight, fight, as Trump cried. He’s right, all this solar, wind, green energy

Is one big CON!

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Cabogirl's avatar

Cover the buildings instead !!! Cover parking buildings and lots with solar panels.

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Mary Mc's avatar

They NEED to stop them everywhere. We are co standby inundated by the utility solar developers with their lies and schemes here in VA. Our local opposition groups have stopped at least half of them, if not more but it's a constant battle of Davids vs Goliaths.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

You should connect w Alexandria and let her know how you’re fighting them…

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

💯

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Bgagnon's avatar

Yep, so very CA! Like the zillion $ high speed train - a tiny amount of track laid between nowhere and nowhere 2 and no train in sight - but tons of $$$ spent!

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CMCM's avatar

All the $$$$ was going to Gavin Newscum friends and supporters. The train was a big, giant slush fund for California Democrats. There has never been a more corrupt and slimy bunch of politicians.

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Fabes55's avatar

It might be high speed between Buttonwillow and Turlock lol.

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Dorota's avatar

Forwarded to Warroom. Maybe they will act on it.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Thank you!

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Jeff S's avatar

Solar power is great. It's cheap. It's reliabl

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

🤣

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Barnjai's avatar

Hahaha!

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RunningLogic's avatar

😆

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Lori's avatar

Would you have a number or email for Russ by any chance Nard?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Phone:

(202) 456-1111 — This is the general White House switchboard, which may redirect based on current roles

Email:

russell.vought@mail.house.gov — This is the most recently listed direct email

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Lori's avatar

Thanks Nard, doing it now.

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CStone's avatar

Just sent message to Russell Vought!

Thank you

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Thank you!

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Carol M.'s avatar

So sad to hear this. Hope & pray she gets many to reconsider! 🚜🪺🪴⛅️

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Navyo Ericsen's avatar

Save the planet!! Chop down all the trees so we can build solar and wind farms!! Clear cut the forests!

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FH's avatar

Wait. What was that about blocking the sun to save the planet? 🤬

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RunningLogic's avatar

But—also cry about deforestation at the same time!! Totally logical! 😑

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Critical Thinker's avatar

Canadian corporations?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Boralex…a solar corporation out of Quebec is poised to gobble up thousands of acres in upstate New York for Solar Farming. With Hochul’s blessing.

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Jeff S's avatar

They should save the green and install solar panels in mid-town NYC, or all of Poughkeepsie.

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Alkery's avatar

She’s despicable.

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Critical Thinker's avatar

I didn't think Canadian companies were doing anything of consequence at this level, unless they're owned or controlled by globalists. Interesting...

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

You should read the post. I was flabbergasted. I’m admittedly not familiar with Boralex, so whether or not they have globalist connections, I cannot say…

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jewel's avatar

well if they are Canada govt related they are onboard WEF

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RunningLogic's avatar

Hochul hates her constituents but especially the rural ones 😡

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Barbls's avatar

Senator Patty Murray (D-Wa.) complained bitterly that Republicans are “gleefully using the shutdown they have caused as a pretext to inflict even more pain in some sort of sick political game.”

REMEMBER when Obama hired extra guards to prevent people from driving through national parks for simple sightseeing during his shut down?

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Costing more to close things? Yeah. I remember

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

And put up barriers around the open air WWII memorial?

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Essay33's avatar

Trump's Mariachi memes are not targeted at the demographic that includes most C&C readers. They're targeted at the Charlie Kirk demographic: young people, particularly college age. And they're very effective with that group. I approve of that strategy; the left hates it the way they hated Trump's "mean tweets" because they know how effective it is with the demographic they're losing. And they can't meme. They really can not meme.

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Jpeach's avatar

As a Boomer, I find Trump’s memes very funny. Especially how he (or his crack Meme Team), escalate with new and more amusing memes. I laugh and democrats fume.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

May the fiesta continue!! I haven’t laughed so hard since yesterday’s C&C. The continued bash of trolling memes is the gift that keeps on giving, just as C&C does. The deranged wokesters can’t wrap their hurt feelings around it. BTW Hakeem obviously does not like Mexicans because of his cry baby reaction to being compared to one. His racist proclivity is revealed. I love the Trump mariachi band & the upbeat music. We should sent Juan some mustache wax. Andale! Andale! Arriba! Arriba!! 🌮🇲🇽🤣💣

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Lori's avatar

Ole'

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Same, Merry!

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Barnjai's avatar

As a fellow Boomer, I approve this message

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

He is melting our brains in real time with his brilliant gifts of irreverence and artistry

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Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

With just the perfect oversupply of thuggishness.

I say this as a man who lived 39 years of my adult life in both Manhattan and Queens.

And, in its essence, there is no/nada/zero hint of abusiveness in DJT.

In New York, if I stand a prayer of being in control of my day, I had to size things up on a dime ... and take corresponding actions, either through manipulation or side stepping or implacable insistence. Namely, by being a cool and gracious dude, even when delivering the goods with a foul mouth.

Men gotta be Men. And this includes our Women folk.

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CMCM's avatar

As Gutfeld says in many of his recurring segments, 🙏 Donald Trump....We don't deserve him!🙏

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Elaine Mausbach's avatar

That is a very good summation with the conclusion that 'They can't meme. They really can not meme". lol

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Gina C's avatar

They can't meme because you can't create something funny that's based in truth when you don't know what the truth is. It's a liberal defect.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

Not the mention that they are wholly devoid of a sense of humor.

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Princess Thunderbutt's avatar

Greta Thunberg is the funniest of them all!

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Poor Greta, retarded by vaccine autism.

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Stacy's avatar

That is exactly what I just said. Time for PC to go.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

My BIL absolutely despised Jefferies. If he was still with us, he'd be ROFL....kinda like I did when it was texted to me. I had to watch it another 3 times today since Jeff included it in todays C&C. THANKS, JEFF!!!!

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Karmy's avatar

Our President is a gift. He is giving back to the left what Hillary Clinton’s favorite author Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals recommends.

RULE 5: “Ridicule is man’s most potent weapon.” There is no defense. It’s irrational. It’s infuriating. It also works as a key pressure point to force the enemy into concessions.

Trump has obviously read this book and is using the rules on the left.

God bless him and keep him safe from evil.

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I think Barron Trump is behind some of this.

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Ruth H's avatar

PDJT listens to his son Barron for the best way to enlighten the younger generation.

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CMCM's avatar

They can't meme because they completely lack a sense of humor. If you look at a photo of a bunch of them together (usually grousing about something), they are all angry and unhappy as all get out, anger written all over the faces, downturned mouths (e.g. see photos of Maxine Waters). Really nasty and unpleasant people seem to be drawn to the Democrat party.

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Juju's avatar

I left my contributing comment under a different reply (link to it below). I have another, more apt tune running through my head 😆:

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/mariachi-men-thursday-october-2-2025/comment/162238662

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Jeff Johnson's avatar

Think what you may about Elon Musk, but I truly appreciate the man. He uses what he has to better the world in the true sense of the democratic way, unlike certain leftist billionaires who want only to rule with their money.

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Bones's avatar

He’s a hero

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Angelus Irae ☩'s avatar

He's no champion of free speech. I've been permanently suspended on X since Linda Yaccarino took over.

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Davey J's avatar

She’s not there anymore and it takes ALoT to get suspended on X . Would love for you to share what caused it

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Angelus Irae ☩'s avatar

The cause is Elon Musk is not a champion of free speech. I broke no laws.

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Angelus Irae ☩'s avatar

It's astounding that someone would resort to victim blaming on this.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

X is shadow-banning a lot. X still has too many lefty editors.

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Douglas Hamilton's avatar

Dear Jeff,

Yesterday you wrote an upbeat response to the deal Pfizer struck with the White House. Are you aware that Nicholas Hulscher of the McCollough Foundation has a very different take on this deal. He refers to the deal as a betrayal and the end of MAHA. I would like to see these two diametrically opposed views reconciled?

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Laststop Willoughby's avatar

The solution to the problem is to make pharmaceutical companies liable again.

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

And repeal it back to 1986 so liability can be collected for ALL who were harmed

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

Hi Douglas, I have to read this, but many people are saying that this deal is horrible since it still profits Pfizer—while harming the population.

I do not think anything from this is a win, but I have to dive deeper.

Essentially, I will say, we do not need pharma for anything. Only trauma and life emergency procedures: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/emergency-medicine-works-but-chronic

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shibumi's avatar

mRNA jabs for everyone!

Don't want an mRNA jab? We've got that covered too! Our new jabs will automatically spread! Death to everyone, with costly medical care beforehand! All Hail Pfi$er!

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Carrie's avatar

I admittedly need to do some more reading on this, but I read somewhere that deal only lowered prices for Medicaid, not private insurance or purchasers or Medicare. That would be only a mere baby step to where we should be.

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Ruth H's avatar

People can buy at discounted prices directly on TrumpRx.gov so no need to include insurance companies. I only take one Rx and it’s pretty cheap for a 90 day supply, but I plan to compare prices to see if cheaper.

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Lori's avatar

MAHA does not end until we the people say it ends.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

But IMO, Pfizer should end. It, and the CEO, committed crimes against humanity, millions died. Pfizer should be forced out of business and any assets that remain confiscated.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

And Bill Gates should be immediately arrested and prosecuted for his involvement with Jeffrey Epstein.

He can be prosecuted for his crimes against humanity later, from his prison cell.

Mrs. RW

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Lori's avatar

Agreed and let us all have a go at Bourla.

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Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

I have been getting newsletters from Nicholas Hulscher but have not seen this. I would like to read about it. I'll look thanks for the heads up

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Douglas Hamilton's avatar

The following link is to an interview Nicholas Hulsher gave this morning with Daily Pulse with Maria Zeee.

https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/#inbox/WhctKLbmnGbNQNZKcJmZFJqVhHVGfxPPBsBGZqHcLPbLwjmSmHRDgPLBDdlnTJMJTFwBBHV

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GregWA's avatar

Good for Patel's FBI cutting off the ADL. Now, what about all the others? What other NGOs still have special relationships with USG agencies or with entities funded by USG agencies?

I'll bet there's 1000 more ADLs out there! How to find them?

If only Trump had access to a billionaire's resources and the most powerful AI on the planet! Oh, wait...

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DaveL's avatar

SPLC, for example. Like the ADL, at one time it served a useful purpose.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Welp when this shutdown includes thousands of agencies those ngos get their laundry done at, the funding for them is gone. What’s the point of keeping your “philanthropy” going if you are not taking in millions in grift?

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SLien's avatar

The ADL history is very dark. Candace Owens explains it well. But apparently the FBI and the ADL share office space in Connecticut so…are they really cutting ties? Kash is suspiciously lying to us all about the Kirk assassination so I have my thoughts!

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Bgagnon's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯 For Sure!!!

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GregWA's avatar

Kash is lying about the Kirk assassination...I was not aware of that. Can you point me to some sources? Thanks.

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Bgagnon's avatar

Greg, what I posted was in response to CMCM’s post about Newscum and his corrupt CA govt. I did not post about Patel.

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Ranbo's avatar

I seriously doubt that ADL has retired its glossary of hate. They likely took the same route that leftists have done with DEI. They renamed it and hid it.

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Lori's avatar

exactly. leopards dont change spots. it has been temporarily furloughed.

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RSgva's avatar

A pandering leftist took over ADL during the Obama era and then steered the organization away from actually protecting the Jewish community. Good riddance.

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Kris's avatar

Man trump sure makes every president before him seem really lazy! It's like they were sitting on a throne all day waiting to be served! GOAT, undisputed, no one even close. Chip one of those off Rushmore and glue on Trump.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

GOAT Israel puppet and Pfizer catamite.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

President Trump, Please send all the Venezuelan gang bangers back to their own big beautiful country.

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Jeff S's avatar

Round 'em up, give them life vests, dump them in the ocean, and let them swim back. Oops. "Look out for the sharks."

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David Roberts's avatar

Anything Hispanic is immediately labeled “racism.” No one ever points out that “Mexican,” or “Hispanic” is not a race.

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Mary Mc's avatar

Yep. Few understand the difference between race, nationality, ideology, religion etc. Sigh.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Someone told me once that I was being racist for making a general statement that included the word, Mexican. I asked them what we then call someone who hails from Mexico? Should I be offended when someone calls me an American?

They had no response.

So, it is Hispanic food?

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Lori's avatar

I call it mexican food.

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Jeff S's avatar

Right. It's a standoff or a restaurant!

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Much splaining to do for the new injections for semites. Paging Charles Darwin.

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Gina C's avatar

Someone should ask the Mexicans (not the "dreamers" on US college campuses) what they think of it.

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Gina C's avatar

Someone should ask the Mexicans (not the "dreamers" on US college campuses) what they think of it.

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Runemasque's avatar

I hear more identification as "Latinos." But, many latinos do feel que distinct from latinos from a different country. Puerto Ricans feel distinct from, certainly, Mexicans, but even from Dominicans who are also from the Caribbean region. Any two American countries will have big differences in culture, regional language, identity. Many people use the word Mexican to refer to any Latino person they see, but that would be like someone from the United States being generally referred to as Canadian, or vice versa.

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Luc's avatar

Isn't it interesting that Hakeem is "protecting the health care of the American people" but he doesn't use the word CITIZEN. Like as in LEGALLY HERE!!!

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Juju's avatar

I don’t understand how they can lump illegals with “Americans”. Being on our soil does NOT make you an instant American.

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Luc's avatar

Agreed (but don't tell bones815574) LOL

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Runemasque's avatar

Well, there is North America, Central America, and South America, which makes for a lot of Americans.

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CitizenA's avatar

However only citizens of the United States of America have the distinction to be called Americans as it is the only country with the word AMERICA in its name. We are not called United Statians, …. but Americans.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh I’ve seen people using the term “USians” lately and I cannot even begin to describe how absolutely STUPID and RIDICULOUS I think that is!! 😡🙄

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Runemasque's avatar

I think it does reliably connotate those who are from the USA, but I am not entirely certain on an international level whether that holds true everywhere, especially throughout the Americas. In Spanish, we are called Estadounidenses, which as you can tell, is basically Unitedstatsians. It sounds way too awkward that way. I have heard a few Latinos mention Americans as referring to people from the Americas, but I now wonder whether they were pushing back on the presumption that the USA has rights to the term.

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Juju's avatar

When our own government representatives are speaking about protecting or benefitting “Americans” I assure you they shouldn’t be talking about citizens of another nation. Ever.

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Runemasque's avatar

That is I think why everyone wants clarification of the term. The term Citizen has a clear and legal definition. The term American seems to mean Citizen for some, and yet for others it has other connotations or usages. I don't think American is a legal term. For a politician to use it may potentially, whether purposeful or not, give a different message to different people, and as we can see in this discussion, will trigger adamant insistence that the term be circumscribed with exactitude. I personally think that the ambiguity and varied meaning of the word makes it ripe for the kind of plastic communication which will form itself to the listener.

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Runemasque's avatar

I would think that too. I am so used to double speak and tricky speak, though, that it is an odd thought that could arise in the right context.

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Bgagnon's avatar

It’s so basic yet this is first time I have ever seen this statement posted anywhere!

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DaveL's avatar

It’s consistent with the way the Constitution is written. “Citizen” usually has to do with voting eligibility and ability to run for political office. Otherwise, people.

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Juju's avatar

But “American” “people” should not refer to people who are not citizens of the United States of America, especially when discussing how the taxes of citizens is to be spent. But they want it to mean everyone on the damn earth. No nation can afford representing everyone in the world for Christ’s sake

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DaveL's avatar

Could be, but that's not how the Constitution is written.

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Juju's avatar

The constitution is NOT written to allow our tax dollars to support the entire world. Stop being so thick.

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DaveL's avatar

Just reading it how it’s written. Have you ever read it?

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Luc's avatar

Right!! NOT an illegal!

Native or naturalized individual who owes allegiance to a government and is entitled to the enjoyment of governmental protection and to the exercise of civil rights.

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Runemasque's avatar

I wonder whether it could reflect the common sentiment that, if someone establishes their life here (work, family, house...), then they are American. Our, if they, certainly grow up here and basically are American as the culture that is obviously their own.

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Luc's avatar

Well, even you become a citizen you still not follow what you might typically think of as "American" culture. Just look at a city like Hamtramck, MI and has a majority Muslim citizen (?.. not sure if legal or illegal) but now you can hear the call to prayer 5 times a day. Not assimilating.

Most immigrants that came back in the day assimilated. Now not so much

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Bgagnon's avatar

During the great migration, those immigrating to America were so thrilled to leave the horrible places they lived and so happy to be in America, they became Citizens the moment the law allowed. (My ancestors and many others)

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Luc's avatar

And they came here ONLY with a sponsor and a job and worked their asses off and made the way for future generations while being called every name in the book.. and they persevered AND became American citizens.

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Runemasque's avatar

What was The Great Migration? I tried to look it up and only saw it referring to an internal migration of blacks away from the south.

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Bgagnon's avatar

I checked and I see I misnamed it. It was call the Great Wave or the New Great Wave and refers to the period from 1870/1880 thru 1920. The Immigrants came from various places including Southern and Eastern Europe. If you look it up with the correct subject you will find a great deal of information. Sorry I had wrong subject title initially.

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Runemasque's avatar

Thank you. I would like to read more about that. I would like to be able to imagine more about what it was like for immigrants at that time.

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Runemasque's avatar

My great grandparents immigrated as native German speakers. Because of the time in history, they had to hide their German, and so my grandparents failed to inherit much language and culture that I would now find of value were we to have been able to pass that down.

When I hear stories from my grandparents they included stories of neighbors from other, usually European, countries. Sometimes there was prejudice against people, like my grandparents for their German. It would make sense to feel closer to others with a similar or compatible background or way of being.

Meanwhile, my "American" Amish neighbors have successfully refused to assimilate, and I am in full support.

I also refuse to assimilate to some varieties of American culture. As many of us did in recent years.

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Juju's avatar

“reflect the common sentiment that, if someone establishes their life here (work, family, house...), then they are American” I’m sorry but that is NOT a common sentiment. We wouldn’t have immigration laws or paths to citizenship if it were. There would be no need for them if simply throwing up a tent and building your life here was enough. It is not enough.

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Runemasque's avatar

In my experience I have heard this expressed. It doesn't mean that there is a legal pathway based upon that sentiment. It also doesn't mean that there aren't other sentiments that differ, like what you are expressing, and others as well.

To me it makes understandable sense in that if I have a family in my community or neighborhood that I have known for a long time, who is able to relate to me well, who has raised or is raising children who might be friends with my own, who has worked here for many years, has a house and assets attached to here, well, stuff like that makes me feel like that person belongs to this place much like I do, as long as they behave like a good neighbor.

In my local work I know many families who fit this kind of scenario. Some are obviously multigenerational legal citizens. Some I don't know. Some I simply might assume. I don't even ask them whether they are "citizens," because that's not really my business or important to my actual relationship with them. I would include them in my casual nonlegal internal dialogue as people who are as much a part of this place as I am. There are those I might in my own casual way easily imagine as American, though that term is actually not one that I personally make a lot of use of.

I've also lived both rural and large cities. In large cities you likely have a Chinatown, and other cultural neighborhoods that truly seem like another country. I have always enjoyed visiting these places. I don't really have as a preconception that they should be.... What does assimilation mean for these people? What does it mean for us (for me, at least, a lifelong citizen of European ancestry)? I'm puzzling myself. I guess the discussion is maybe more about following whatever the legal pathway to citizenship is, along with attendant requirements like passing an exam, English....

I've also lived in other countries where I was clearly a foreigner. There is also an issue internationally with Westerners (there's a term) buying up real estate which becomes exclusive of locals. For example, beach properties owned by foreigners who use the relative power of their currency and income to live in paradise and now citizens have trouble accessing their own natural heritage. In a global scale, there is an economical dynamic which does utilize "3rd world" populations for labor while appropriating profits to foreigners. How much of the US economy and lifestyle in general is altered by this artifical flow of resources and money? Especially if it means that the value goes out of these countries and then foreigners appropriate, say, central American beaches for private and tourist enjoyment. There is a lot that I'm curious about, that might play into this discussion. I'm also concerned about the internal to the US 3rd/1st world dynamic.

I am in total agreement to regulate immigration, but not personally by my own hand. I am so glad I don't have to personally do it. I am way more simplistic in my small life. I just like people who behave like good neighbors, nice people, and at that point I honestly don't care that much what their legal status is. I am so glad I don't have to turn an opinion into policy and effect it. I'm still looking up to Jesus, and I am guessing he wasn't working on the citizenship issue. I don't know. If I had to be in the role of enforcer, I'd probably just say No.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

No need to buy tickets to the movies anymore — just step outside. The circus is running 24/7, monkeys still tossing their shit from the rafters, and the clowns tripping over their own rakes. The whole script is free, live, and uglier than anything Hollywood could stage.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Right,

Any murder blown up by the media must be questioned, especially with no one in custody.

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

Righto Bard... my view, ANYTHING mentioned in the media must be questioned... we all know who controls the media right? right?

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The Cosmic Onion's avatar

The same swell people who control the world... https://cosmiconion.substack.com/p/the-big-club

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