Trump trolls Democrats with accurate presidential portrait; budget brinkmanship spawns a Mexican standoff; assassin Ryan Wesley Routh is convicted, adding dumb courtroom drama; more.
As a Patriotic Constitutional Conservative Common Sense American residing in the Patriotic Constitutional Conservative Common Sense State of Florida, tonight - after 5 years of considerable trepidation - I’m finally feeling relaxed and confident enough to attempt to close my other eye while sleeping.
On a side note: Never thought I would see the day when the news would consist of two relevant stories about pens. Strange times indeed. At precisely 9:30 a.m. EST we should all ceremoniously "Flick our Bics" in reverence. (To "flick a Bic pen," you can learn a trick called the pen cap trick by pinching the cap's rim with your thumb and index finger and applying a specific squeeze to make the pointed end fly off).The Pen giveth and the Pen taketh away....or at least tried to. Safe to say that pens are now off the supply list of every court in the country. They could always put a chain on them....but it would have to be a very short chain, otherwise.....well, you know. Hang that idea.
Honestly, my life experience in watching the Democrats listed tells me that if they’re not saying anything about the Autopen it means they’re holding their breath, hoping the story dies away and watching to see the public fallout. Time to publicize it far and wide and with great fanfare.
Others will be charged (or should be if Bondi ever does her job) with using the autopen. It is legal to use if a president has approved its use. Obama said he used it every year on his three-week Hawaiian holiday vacation. (It cost us $50,000 a week just for his rental property.) Let's take a look at what was autopen signed by Obama during that time for eight years.
Well, Obama was theoretically mentally competent and aware of whatever was signed by the autopen, and it's reasonable to assume he directed the autopen use. Biden clearly was non compos mentis for much, if not most of his presidency, so the problem is quite different. Unelected people were obviously using the autopen, and I really hope all the individuals who ran the autopen are identified...and properly prosecuted. Undoubtedly it was multiple people with different interests using the autopen. Did Biden supposedly direct the autopen's use when and if it was requested by various people in his cabinet? Or did they do it without him even knowing? That is one major question. If this isn't investigated and revealed, I feel pretty dismal about where America is going from here.
I don't see how unelected, appointed bureaucrats can sign documents that only the President is allowed to knowingly sign and get away with it. If the "legitimacy" of the autopen documents is allowed to stand, the Presidential powers have become pretty non-existent and anyone can do his job without answering to anyone. Whatever was not knowingly signed by a mentally aware Biden should become null and void, and those who acted on his unknown behalf must be prosecuted for what they did. Whatever was signed this way needs to be reversed immediately. The American people cannot let this go.
Actually, I've long speculated that since Obama came out of nowhere and had a rather shadowy background (birth place, college career...who knew him, no one spoke out about knowing him, no former teachers commented etc.), he was a former senator who got into office rather oddly, so I wonder he was actually "placed" into the presidency and controlled by others. He could give a good speech back then, but lately, what he says sounds weak and pathetic.
He even admitted, foolishly, that he never made a decision without consulting with Valerie Jarrett.....y'know the Iranian born daughter of two radical lefty parents. Ahhh, that's a good rabbit hole for anyone to explore.
Obama was groomed by the deep state to be the Manchurian Candidate that he was. A traitor used to commit treason. His entire life and Presidency was a lie.
Coming out of the Routh trial, did he successfully divert investigators/prosecutors' attention from where he received $162,000? I'm not an investigator myself, but I'm damned if I wouldn't have been curious about that.
"It remains a mystery where the money came from." 🤔
The allusion to dangerous pens and gun control is not lost on me but you know what kills about half as many people every year in this country as pens or guns, (this doesn't include suicides with guns or pens)? Drunk drivers-so why is it that when the left screams "gun control" we're not at least bringing up the issue of drunk drivers and how to stop the slaughter on the highways? How about a requirement to blow in a tube everytime a new body gets behind the wheel? I know we're not talking about how to cure every evil in society in this post but having up close and personal experience with deaths on the highway that are intoxication related, (drugs and alcohol), sure seems like every time gun control is brought up, the right could say, "Yes, let's get the guns out of the hands of criminals and get the drunks out from behind the wheel." Just sayin...
Or how about this one: Every car must have a breathalyzer type thing to blow into in order to start the card. If it reads beyond a certain reasonable level, the car can only drive about 10 mph max.
...and you can't very well stab yourself with a keyboard. You certainly can't "flick" one in any meaningful way. So much for technology. Progress, my fanny.
Time constraints. Plus, you'd be unconscious before you could finish yourself off. Not that I wouldn't relish witnessing the attempt. I'm sick that way.🙃
He should have eaten the pen and slowly die without medical intervention.
Then he would have his justice...
If I believed any of this ridiculous nonsense of the world's stage they show us, I would be turned into a mindless zombie.
It is too hard to believe in my rational mind... yet they hack at it constantly with the FF and fearmongering and toxic water, foods, meds, and skies, and even the strongest rock gets worn down over time.
Remember in "Say Anything" when the Ione Skye was told by her father to give John Cusack a "pen" as a parting gift for their break-up? And similarly the dad had a very modest job, but inexplicably was doing quite well for himself?
And the second "pen story" means the "perpetrator" will be "penned up in 'the pen" for the rest of his miserable 'life'. I honestly believe Routh was "groomed" by an intelligence operative (either one of ours or a foreign snoops agency).
Take nothing for granted. Maintain vigilance and commitment. All the good that has been done can be damaged and/or undone if Republicans don't gain a lot of seats in the House and a seat or two in the Senate in the midterms.
Absolutely! We must work tirelessly to get the right people elected or re-elected and stay vigilant to what’s going on locally, statewide and nationally. There’s no time to waste! Get involved! Be like Charlie Kirk!
Confused! Flick my Bic referred to Bic lighters, not pens? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddobOBPczc He didn't light himself on fire. Bic lighters probably aren't allowed in courtrooms.
sshhhh....I know, I know. Don't ruin the vibe. Same company. Let it eat. 🤣
To "flick a Bic pen," you can learn a trick called the pen cap trick by pinching the cap's rim with your thumb and index finger and applying a specific squeeze to make the pointed end fly off. Updated for clarity.
Was this a "weapon of war" pen? Or was Biden the only one who could have an "auto" pen? Remember to keep your pens locked up and away from your...well, everyone!
You certainly penned a good one today Mr. H! I am honored to be the 200th documented admirer of yours today. My goal is top 100 over the next 2 days given I’ll be up with the Ryder cup. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
Yeah, I don't remember the company actually adopting that for pens, but we sure did. Seems as though they could have cross merchandised that in some way.
Janice, thank you for the delightful introduction! I have already forwarded this particular writing to several friends and now I'm being thanked for the introduction.
“Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help and rely on horses, who trust in chariots because they are many and in horsemen because they are very strong, but do not look to the Holy One of Israel or consult the Lord!”
Excellent Jamie. They want our eyes off God because they fear. I no longer try to figure anything out because it is all theater by the enemy. I am just watching the show and trusting God... not that I have given up but doing what I can where God placed me since that is all I can do and God will do the rest. If everyone did that, there would be a big spiritual change. We wait on the Lord as He is not slow. A thousand years to us is a day to God.
I was actually hoping (before I read Jeff today) that the gov’t WILL shutdown. I’m so tired of these games they play w our tax dollars. Having read Jeff’s take, now I really REALLY want them to do it - you just know Trump has something special up his sleeve for their shenanigans!
I like it. They’re totally worthless IMHO. It’s just a psy op that they work for us. They only work to enrich themselves and their cronies. (Ok 99% of them).
" . . . OMB told agencies to identify programs, projects and activities where discretionary funding will lapse on Oct. 1 and no alternative funding source is available. For those areas, OMB directed agencies to begin drafting RIF plans that would go beyond standard furloughs, **permanently eliminating jobs** in programs not consistent with President Donald Trump’s priorities in the event of a shutdown." ~ Politico
Nah, they should be able to pass an exam and return:
-- one on civics, recite the pledge of allegiance to the Flag of the USA;
-- able to author a 4000 word essay on the Constitution, the Supreme Court, and separation of powers; independent professor picked at random around US universities grades them, blind, B or A passes.
-- able to define a woman; same grading by HS biology teachers.
The “solution” to not passing a budget is a continuing resolution (CR) for 90 days.
It is sad that passing a budget before the end of the fiscal year is not even considered a possibility. So now we’re just debating whether to shut it down or do a CR.
$37 Trillion in debt. We are not a serious country anymore, and haven’t been for a few decades at least.
The government should absolutely NOT fund Medicaid for illegals. I heard that Michigan is funding polygamy (cough..terrorism..cough) by allowing a certain religious community to have multiple wives (from one family) on Medicaid by fraudulently filling out the applications.
They act like they can just print money for whatever……oh wait 💸💸
Been saying it for years. Shut it down! My fear is some weaselly Republicans will go along and get the majority. I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.
The last Trump government shut down, employees of Crater Lake didn’t bother to winterize the lodge so when spring hit it flooded from broken pipes. I think I’ll email Crater Lake admin and suggest them that it shouldn’t happen this time. No, telling how high up that maintenance decision came from.
We’re the people skeptical about government spending in the first place, and we’re pretty comfortable letting Russ Vought prioritize essential things which will continue during a shutdown over nonessential things which will not.
When you don't have a valid argument, you resort to lying, name calling, and childish and/or profane insults. On the other hand, intelligence tempered by godliness, coupled with a desire to actually lift people up, makes for refreshing entertainment the world cannot reproduce and doesn't understand anyway.
Right? They don't know what they stand for but can only point the finger and resort to some very unfunny ways of expressing it. Not people I would like to hang around with!
Recently I was sort of *forced* into doing a gig for the local democrats. There was no coercion, but a venue that provides me with regular opportunities to rent out myself and my sound system recommended me to the event planners, and saying no may have cost me some other gigs. I rationalized it by thinking, "this allows me to take $500 out of the coffers of the local democrats"...
The gig was at a retirement community, so it was attended by a bunch of old progressive dems (the funniest kind). I had to sit through a bunch of nauseating speechifying by various local organizers and a couple of Assembly candidates before I got to the fun part - the live mix of the band that was performing.
If I looked beyond the TDS and the borderline communism (I could never do communism - I detest meetings), everyone there were really "nice" people. Boring, yes, and a tendency toward unattractiveness, but nice, for the most part. The folks in the band were nice and a lot of the audience members were nice - several congratulated me on the sound. However, the organizers were serious and dedicated and definitely NOT fun people - nobody I'd hang around with if I had a choice. They gave me a creepy vibe, as did the two candidates.
Mostly I came away with the impression of a bunch of old party apparatchiks who are feeling a bit desperate these days. They tried to put on the hopeful face and talk up the party line, but the attendance was lower than I expected, even for my blue part of blue California. The old pinkos are dying out, and they are being replaced by mostly-fat young anarcho-socialists who don't want to work, love their face tattoos and green hair, and want everything delivered instantly for free. None of those attended this event.
That's my report from the front. You have been briefed.
Nancy, Traditionally, it is thought that coastal areas that engage in international shipping/commerce are in contact with an ongoing flow of new/different perspectives - compared to traditional/conservative inland areas that tend to be more insular.
That is odd that inland would be considered more insular. It seems (to me) that coastal areas are typically the people group that have more financial freedom to do whatever they would like, and again, seems to me are the ones living in an insulated subculture who prefer to hang out with their own tribe, so to speak. Money and power breeds money and power, which comes in quite handy to lobby, aka blackmail! I just never understood die-hard party politics. Especially when it seems like tradition trumps truth. Thanks for your reply!
Thank you for being nice to these old folks. Your music sound system was probably the highlight of their day. They probably remember the entertainment more than the speeches.
They were old, but not decrepit. It was a retirement community, not a rest home. A lot of them were dancing to the music, which was produced by a band whose members were all older than me. They were there because they're democrats who support Progressive ideology, most of them unaware of its evil underpinnings. These people remember the Democrats who supported unions and the working people in this country. They stuck flowers into gun barrels in the 1960s, and Lennon's "Imagine" is probably an anthem for most of them.
There was a time in my life when I was like this, when I thought "Progressive" meant pro-progress and the achievement of everything humans are capable of as a species. I only learned of the roots of the Progressive movement a decade or so ago, and that was part of my awakening to this poisonous ideology.
While I still believe in my heart that the human race is capable of being so much more than it is, I know that political ideologies aren't the way that's going to happen. The only way I see us moving forward is by spiritual awakening and people taking responsibility for their own behavior.
ABC needs to run a "fact check" chyron on all their shows telling their leftist audience that Tyler Robinson is a leftist - with some of the details - for a few days. They need to do this on Kimmel's show until he does a real apology.
More liberals think that a conservative killed Charlie Kirk (30%) than know a liberal did it (10%). Kimmel's stunt and non apology may have made that worse.
Fetterman tried to explain to dumbo Dana bash on cnnlol that shutting down the government will give the Trump administration the opportunity to permanently get rid of the non essential agency staff. Or all the BS the demonrats support and grift from. TDS is so strong in these libbies that she didn't get it. It's quite eye opening that a vaxx injured Fetterman is seeing reality more clearly. Possibly the only time a vaxx injury worked for the better.
—“But … “A lot of the things Democrats fight for will not be able to be paid,” Trump added.”
And THAT’S the kicker right there! He knows *we* don’t care if they shut down those things but the statist Democrats and their base care a whole lot! 😑
On a serious note, this brings to mind the story of Pinocchio. A story steeped in the occult.
In the cartoon, Gepetto can be seen "wishing on a star." Except what is depicted is Gepetto PRAYING to the "morning star, son of the dawn." Lucifer. He counterfeits The Bright and Morning Star, Christ Jesus.
The notion that Pinocchio, a creation of man, can become a "real boy" is occult, through and through. It is a cartoon that depicts Gepetto saying "I can be like The Most High."
Sorry if I ruined anyone's childhood . . .
Edit: Christ Jesus has already won this battle. Glorify Him, and don't worry about this stuff.
They should shut up and thank dog that Trump has thus far limited the Autopen scandal to ridicule and mockery. (For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.)
Makes one wonder if many have already been ‘turned over to a reprobate mind to believe a lie and be damned”….Romans
Because it seems that all the left has ‘left’ are the most deviant, demented, violent dregs of society…… cruel, empty souls who live in darkness, FOR darkness, and they LOve the darkness, rather than the light. Substituting evil for good and good for evil. What is bitter they call sweet and what id sweet, they call bitter. (Isaiah)
Yes, the eventual battle with the left will be between the "God IS" and the "God ISN'T" crowds. This is becoming abundantly clear to everyone. To borrow the acronym, GAW (God always wins)!
I pray that the Demtoids shut down the Government and Trump fires 50% of federal employees. Hell 75%. Then if need hire back the 10% of the 75% that actually work.
In any hiring, a background check including lie detector plus an application they need to complete and sign under penalty, etc., etc. Can think of lots of questions to weed out infiltrators. You may have a different opinion, but you may not subvert while on the public payroll.
This is a legally mandatory, written oath, witnessed and notarized. It never “dropped off” in Law.
Not the ceremonial hand on Bible one. Someone did research and virtually no officers of the court, legislators, or agencies have done this, including top generals. That means there is nothing to hold them to.
Auto pen portrait is classic, funny as S###. Liberals won't get it. They have no sense of humor, I mean, they think Kimmel is funny.
Random: They sure did squash that Nashua Sky Meadow Country Club wedding shooting by 23-year-old Hunter Nadeau real quick. Maybe it was because he yelled FREE PALESTINE before shooting and killing folks.
Same with the 22-year-old New Hampshire man who threatened to kill Gov. Kelly Ayotte using a "weapon of mass destruction" and invoking antisemitic rhetoric.
The media sure does hate this country.
So, word of advice, stop expecting them to tone down the rhetoric. They WANT these attacks. Even the killing of those migrants was a net positive to these cretins because it also meant that those ICE agents were shot at.
Agree. But can we stop calling them the “media?” They’re not the news and they aren’t the media. Let’s call them the “government's propaganda machine.” Or, C and Cers, you can come up with something better? Please? I’m still waking up and on my first cup of coffee.
"The coroner found the bullet “just beneath the skin,” The bullet “should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,”
“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. Remarkable. Miraculous,” he said."
It is very unlikely that the coroner found the .30/06 bullet still in Charlie Kirk's body. At 200 yards, that round has enough kinetic energy to enter, create significant internal damage, and make a sizable exit wound. The bullet would continue to travel until it hit something with enough mass to stop it. It is a good and solid hunting caliber for medium, large game. It originated as a military caliber.
Sorry, no. A 30-06 hollow point, designed for hunting so the bullet doesn't keep traveling, stops inside the target after doing massive damage. And with a low grain powder, the velocity is reduced.
But remember you are speaking of a human neck, not the chest of a deer or moose... BTW, military snipers have traditionally used spire point boat tail bullets, not hollow points. The gram weight of the bullet and powder charge are dependent upon the mission.
True. I was just making the point that it's not impossible for the bullet to have stopped inside Charlie Kirk, as most of the comments here are implying. A hollow point flattens and fragments on impact, so passing through the victim and continuing to travel is impossible. And using a hollow point, given the internal damage it does, might have been Robinson's choice, versus a FMJ, which would continue through the victim but with much less internal damage.
Alex Jones, of all people, had a bit on the bullet that may calm down the conspiracy theories.
He said that a doctor who saw the x-rays told him that the bullet ricocheted off Kirk's vertebrae (I think) and went back into his body. Did a lot of damage. Let me look for the link...
Warning ⛔️ on the Alex Jones link. It shows the graphic shooting of Charlie, twice. I initially saw it as it happened and didn’t want to see it again but Alex Jones did not give a warning before showing the shot twice. Something I did not want to see again. I’m thankful that Charlie probably didn’t feel a thing. He was immediately with the Lord.
I actually think Peggy Hall has a good point. I watched her videos on YouTube and tons of content on instagram video reels that show so much to be skeptical about.
I’m pretty sure the bullet hit his body armor and the edge, changing the trajectory to an upward direction, and being possible to be soft point, ( they make that in 30-06) would have pretty much shattered, sending multiple smallish fragments up into his brain. And none having enough mass to come out. It makes sense to me. May also have done the same thing if it hit his collar bone. As far as the rifle goes, yeah, weird. But I seem to remember a video early on of someone jumping off a roof that looked like he was carrying something long.
He wasn’t wearing body armor, I believe. You could see his nipples through the t-shirt and rolls of his stomach when he was sitting, hunched over. Hr was throwing hats to the crowd, moving very naturally.
Why has no one on here expounded on the theory Charlie was actually shot from behind, around the right ear, exiting in the left neck area, hence the very bloody exit wound. They are trying to spin this as no exit wound in his back, but this would actually be the entrance area. They are trying to tie this all up in too pretty a package.
In the footage I viewed, I saw the neck wound appear and immediately thought 'low caliber' because a high caliber hit would have done a hell of a lot more damage than what I was seeing. Also, there was no blood splatter all over the place which would also fit in with 'low caliber' as being the round used. I also suspected that a rooftop trajectory would not fit in with what I was seeing. I say 'suspected' because I was not there, but I still am waiting to hear if the angle is off and/or the canopy was in the way of a clear rooftop shot.
Also, in footage viewed I saw the guy who put something into his pocket and that did not look right. Put that together with the odd behaviors and distractions immediately going around Charlie? Like 911, things just didn't and still don't add up. And now, Peters says the security detail was Israeli? My, my, my!
I heard commentary saying a guy to the right had a pistol under his arm and made the shot, and that this was a technique employed by intelligence agencies in such goings on. It did not look quite right to me and maybe it is fraught with too much failure risk potential. Or maybe it was unused backup if the first plan failed to do the job. The thing which looks more probable is the muscle motion of 'detonator' man in the Stew Peters video. I find that plausible because it looks consistent with how hands move. But I still go for the big things which are unmistakable. And in the Kirk assassination this is that a large caliber shot is totally inconsistent with what we actually saw. That is, in the Kennedy assassination, half of the back of Kennedy's head was blown away and there was plenty of blood spray and splatter all over the place. And that is what a large caliber round does. it makes a real mess. This kind of thing is totally missing with Charlie's kill shot.
My final thought given what we saw is this. If there is no real government follow up by the FBI and/or Justice, then once again we will be handed yet another cover up. However, by now and with past experience, the public will not believe it. And in not believing cynicism of the government will only grow.
They seem to have everyone in on the cover up, including the governor of Utah, JD Vance and of course the fbi and cia. I have watched such detailed videos that I see with my own eyes the so called security was definitely in on it, including Frank, his mentor who was clearly giving signs. I also saw Frank in one video run to the suv immediately: he did not run to Charlie’s side like he said. According to Peggy hall, the whole event is staged using a Hollywood gun machine, something hit him, but it was a Hollywood gun shot and fake blood was ready, also I saw the main security man put a black box under Charlie’s chair, which could have made the chair bounce up to create that effect of Charlie being hit. Also Charlie’s own team released the video of him getting shot to control that image that circulated first and quickly, this could have been quickly altered in real time to add ai effects. They had the old guy in place to distract and say it was me, they likely had multiple ways to create multiple story lines for confusion and believably
Not buying that it was faked. Frank Turek was a long time friend of Charlie’s, he appeared on the podcast many times. Charlie would never be part of such a thing. I’ve followed him for years. His faith, family and country was sincere. I do think there is a coverup going on, but I have to trust it is for some reason I don’t know about.
No one suggests that maybe the shot was from behind Charlie, right ear area entrance coming out the left neck area. Small entrance wound but large exit wound. If so the bullet would have ended up buried in the grass and ground. Any coincidence that they started tearing up all that sod a few days after to cement it all. A designated “construction zone”.
Although I have no way of knowing, I tend to incline in your direction. The shot narrative is wholly faulty. We clearly saw something which does not match 'the roof top' shooter narrative. And everything else highly irregular supports that the official narrative being proffered is totally absurd.
One of the videos I saw suggesting the behind Charlie “kill shot” was saying the trajectory backwards and forwards would be easy to compute just going from entrance and exit extending it downward and upward from behind. Simple high school math. This guy suggested just looking at the forensics. But for some reason, more and more ludicrous facts keep coming out.
He has only known Frank since 2020. That is when Charlie emailed Frank and asked for his help. Also, that’s not my point. I never said Frank conspired to hurt Charlie. Quite the opposite. Frank is assisting in pulling off this fake scene so that Charlie can go into hiding, collect many millions of dollars(150M) in exchange for not speaking any further about Israel. It was very orchestrated and that’s very easy to see from stew Peters, Peggy hall and thousands of others who all share much more details in slow motion. Everyone online is questioning Erika and the whole narrative, this is not my original idea and most importantly I am
Not looking to change anyone’s mind or convince anyone, so I don’t care if you believe me or not, my post is for people who have certain other feelings or instincts to hear something that resonates, maybe one percent who read this. It is not you, that’s OK. I’m not here for people set in their belief to argue with me.
You put it out there, I was disagreeing. I have watched Charlie for years, you obviously haven’t. Such an elaborate charade is beyond me in what I know of Charlie. It goes against everything he stood for.
I have read Peggy Hall in the past and she always has some conspiracy up her sleeve. I am simply rebutting what I believe to be malarkey. You can put it out there as your right and I believe I can disagree as is my right.
I don't go into the weeds because going there is a perpetual motion machine. But clearly the fire power of the alleged shot does in no way correspond with whatever we saw. What is totally impossible is the starting point.
Yes. Isn’t the supposedly unknowing driver of the getaway car charged with the same crime as the bank/convenience store robber? Have the funds been frozen? Maybe crowd-source these questions. Someone somewhere knows something. And what’s that theory of ‘six degrees of separation’?
I wish conservative speakers would use drones that are monitored. Would Charlie still be alive if had also used drones to monitor the area? Would Trump have been shot? We have the technology to detect snipers on rooftops. I pray that people will take their security precautions more seriously.
As a Patriotic Constitutional Conservative Common Sense American residing in the Patriotic Constitutional Conservative Common Sense State of Florida, tonight - after 5 years of considerable trepidation - I’m finally feeling relaxed and confident enough to attempt to close my other eye while sleeping.
On a side note: Never thought I would see the day when the news would consist of two relevant stories about pens. Strange times indeed. At precisely 9:30 a.m. EST we should all ceremoniously "Flick our Bics" in reverence. (To "flick a Bic pen," you can learn a trick called the pen cap trick by pinching the cap's rim with your thumb and index finger and applying a specific squeeze to make the pointed end fly off).The Pen giveth and the Pen taketh away....or at least tried to. Safe to say that pens are now off the supply list of every court in the country. They could always put a chain on them....but it would have to be a very short chain, otherwise.....well, you know. Hang that idea.
Honestly, my life experience in watching the Democrats listed tells me that if they’re not saying anything about the Autopen it means they’re holding their breath, hoping the story dies away and watching to see the public fallout. Time to publicize it far and wide and with great fanfare.
Others will be charged (or should be if Bondi ever does her job) with using the autopen. It is legal to use if a president has approved its use. Obama said he used it every year on his three-week Hawaiian holiday vacation. (It cost us $50,000 a week just for his rental property.) Let's take a look at what was autopen signed by Obama during that time for eight years.
Well, Obama was theoretically mentally competent and aware of whatever was signed by the autopen, and it's reasonable to assume he directed the autopen use. Biden clearly was non compos mentis for much, if not most of his presidency, so the problem is quite different. Unelected people were obviously using the autopen, and I really hope all the individuals who ran the autopen are identified...and properly prosecuted. Undoubtedly it was multiple people with different interests using the autopen. Did Biden supposedly direct the autopen's use when and if it was requested by various people in his cabinet? Or did they do it without him even knowing? That is one major question. If this isn't investigated and revealed, I feel pretty dismal about where America is going from here.
I don't see how unelected, appointed bureaucrats can sign documents that only the President is allowed to knowingly sign and get away with it. If the "legitimacy" of the autopen documents is allowed to stand, the Presidential powers have become pretty non-existent and anyone can do his job without answering to anyone. Whatever was not knowingly signed by a mentally aware Biden should become null and void, and those who acted on his unknown behalf must be prosecuted for what they did. Whatever was signed this way needs to be reversed immediately. The American people cannot let this go.
I can just hear the Biden staffers arguing about who’s turn it was to use the autopen. 😂
Do you actually think that Obama used vacation time to pay attention to anything that was happening in D.C.?
Actually, I've long speculated that since Obama came out of nowhere and had a rather shadowy background (birth place, college career...who knew him, no one spoke out about knowing him, no former teachers commented etc.), he was a former senator who got into office rather oddly, so I wonder he was actually "placed" into the presidency and controlled by others. He could give a good speech back then, but lately, what he says sounds weak and pathetic.
He even admitted, foolishly, that he never made a decision without consulting with Valerie Jarrett.....y'know the Iranian born daughter of two radical lefty parents. Ahhh, that's a good rabbit hole for anyone to explore.
He was appointed, not elected, and is not very bright. He no longer has a speech writer or a teleprompter.
Obama was groomed by the deep state to be the Manchurian Candidate that he was. A traitor used to commit treason. His entire life and Presidency was a lie.
"Unleash the Autopen", and Unleash the Krakin.
Is it spelled Kraken?
Not in redneck.
Yes 👍🏽
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Thanks for the morning laugh! I am ready to “flick my bic”🤣🤣🤣🤣
Coming out of the Routh trial, did he successfully divert investigators/prosecutors' attention from where he received $162,000? I'm not an investigator myself, but I'm damned if I wouldn't have been curious about that.
"It remains a mystery where the money came from." 🤔
The allusion to dangerous pens and gun control is not lost on me but you know what kills about half as many people every year in this country as pens or guns, (this doesn't include suicides with guns or pens)? Drunk drivers-so why is it that when the left screams "gun control" we're not at least bringing up the issue of drunk drivers and how to stop the slaughter on the highways? How about a requirement to blow in a tube everytime a new body gets behind the wheel? I know we're not talking about how to cure every evil in society in this post but having up close and personal experience with deaths on the highway that are intoxication related, (drugs and alcohol), sure seems like every time gun control is brought up, the right could say, "Yes, let's get the guns out of the hands of criminals and get the drunks out from behind the wheel." Just sayin...
Or how about this one: Every car must have a breathalyzer type thing to blow into in order to start the card. If it reads beyond a certain reasonable level, the car can only drive about 10 mph max.
When my dad would drive home after a few too many cocktails he would always take it slow—about 15 mph. Dead giveaway imo.
USAID funding assassination attempts?
And apparently paying with bags of cash.
Watch it, Ann!!!!!
The pen is mightier than the sword.
...and you can't very well stab yourself with a keyboard. You certainly can't "flick" one in any meaningful way. So much for technology. Progress, my fanny.
Early in the morn, in the middle of the night, two dead boys got up to fight.
Back-to-back they faced each other, drew their swords and shot each other.
The deaf policeman heard the noise and came to shoot the two dead boys.
If you don’t believe this story is true?
Ask the blind man.
He saw it too.
🤣🤣🤣 I haven't heard/seen that ditty since, probably, junior high! Except our version started out: One bright day, in the middle of the night...
Mrs. "the Knife"
Same here, St Alia, but I remembered every word😆
No idea who wrote it.
But, it must be true.
🤣
But you could bludgeon yourself with a keyboard . . .
Time constraints. Plus, you'd be unconscious before you could finish yourself off. Not that I wouldn't relish witnessing the attempt. I'm sick that way.🙃
That's why you do it on a precipice.
I should have specified.
Well see, that would be different. 😁
He should have eaten the pen and slowly die without medical intervention.
Then he would have his justice...
If I believed any of this ridiculous nonsense of the world's stage they show us, I would be turned into a mindless zombie.
It is too hard to believe in my rational mind... yet they hack at it constantly with the FF and fearmongering and toxic water, foods, meds, and skies, and even the strongest rock gets worn down over time.
There is one Rock that doesn't get worn down!
Yeah that coincidence about pens being in the news is pretty funny 😆
Remember in "Say Anything" when the Ione Skye was told by her father to give John Cusack a "pen" as a parting gift for their break-up? And similarly the dad had a very modest job, but inexplicably was doing quite well for himself?
I don’t, because I have not seen that movie 😛
And the second "pen story" means the "perpetrator" will be "penned up in 'the pen" for the rest of his miserable 'life'. I honestly believe Routh was "groomed" by an intelligence operative (either one of ours or a foreign snoops agency).
“Either one of ours or a foreign snoops agency.” There’s a difference?
Not much, Reelin' - they're all mostly snakes and cockroaches!
Is that the tall President Autopen, or the short President Autopen?
If President Autopen isn’t working be sure to check the paper tray.
Or just unplug it, wait a few, then plug it back in. 🙄
Take nothing for granted. Maintain vigilance and commitment. All the good that has been done can be damaged and/or undone if Republicans don't gain a lot of seats in the House and a seat or two in the Senate in the midterms.
Keep the pressure on the Democrats: no let up.
Absolutely! We must work tirelessly to get the right people elected or re-elected and stay vigilant to what’s going on locally, statewide and nationally. There’s no time to waste! Get involved! Be like Charlie Kirk!
Confused! Flick my Bic referred to Bic lighters, not pens? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SddobOBPczc He didn't light himself on fire. Bic lighters probably aren't allowed in courtrooms.
sshhhh....I know, I know. Don't ruin the vibe. Same company. Let it eat. 🤣
To "flick a Bic pen," you can learn a trick called the pen cap trick by pinching the cap's rim with your thumb and index finger and applying a specific squeeze to make the pointed end fly off. Updated for clarity.
I was thinking this too. And also you would need a tremendous amount of fingertip strength to squeeze the lid. It’s thick plastic! 😂
Was this a "weapon of war" pen? Or was Biden the only one who could have an "auto" pen? Remember to keep your pens locked up and away from your...well, everyone!
Too bad Routh couldn't pen his own ending!
Yer killing me,smalls!
You certainly penned a good one today Mr. H! I am honored to be the 200th documented admirer of yours today. My goal is top 100 over the next 2 days given I’ll be up with the Ryder cup. Thank you for your attention to this matter!
They'll be switching to crayons after this near-tragedy...
And now I have to go attempt the flick a Bic trick. 😂
Got me through high school biology. 🤪
Darn… I missed it 😂🍷
Great response. I wanted to argue that you flick a Bic lighter not a Bic pen. Then I read on. Thanks for the laugh.
Yeah, I don't remember the company actually adopting that for pens, but we sure did. Seems as though they could have cross merchandised that in some way.
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The king is not saved by a mighty army;
A warrior is not delivered by great strength.
A horse is a false hope for salvation;
Nor does it provide escape to anyone by its great strength.
Behold, the eye of Yahweh is on those who fear Him,
On those who wait for His lovingkindness[.]
— Psalm 33:16-18 NAS95
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Janice - I hope you love this as much as my sister and I did:
https://www.keithguinta.com/blog/the-war-between-two-kingdoms-and-the-execution-of-charlie-kirk
Laura…….wow. This is a truly beautiful article……anointed. I wish everyone would read it.
I shared it with my husband and son.
I may share it in portions to those who have busy schedules.
So many Power(ful)Points in this.
Thank you so much for sharing it with us.
Whoa. What an excellent article about Charlie's life and the spiritual battle raging now. Thanks so much for sharing this.
Thank you for the link, what a wonderful essay!
Thank you for sharing this article.
That is SO GOOD. Thank you!
Thank you for sharing. I was blown away by his analogy to St. Stephan. I just subscribed to his blog and shared this post with friends.
Janice, thank you for the delightful introduction! I have already forwarded this particular writing to several friends and now I'm being thanked for the introduction.
Thank you Laura, unique and beautiful.
I am unfamiliar with Mr. Guinta, I'll look into his work and ministries. Until then I donated to his efforts.
Laura, thank you for sharing that. I'm going to have to read it several times to grasp it all. Love the painting.
That is spectacular! Thank you for posting the link.
“Woe to those who go down to Egypt for help and rely on horses, who trust in chariots because they are many and in horsemen because they are very strong, but do not look to the Holy One of Israel or consult the Lord!”
Isaiah 31:1
Excellent Jamie. They want our eyes off God because they fear. I no longer try to figure anything out because it is all theater by the enemy. I am just watching the show and trusting God... not that I have given up but doing what I can where God placed me since that is all I can do and God will do the rest. If everyone did that, there would be a big spiritual change. We wait on the Lord as He is not slow. A thousand years to us is a day to God.
AMEN and AMEN
I was actually hoping (before I read Jeff today) that the gov’t WILL shutdown. I’m so tired of these games they play w our tax dollars. Having read Jeff’s take, now I really REALLY want them to do it - you just know Trump has something special up his sleeve for their shenanigans!
Shut.It.Down.
And when the govt does shut down, they should all have their pay docked.
I agree! he very first paychecks that get thrown into the fire should be theirs!!
Can he lay off/fire Congress? Let’s start there.
Fire them with no chance of reinstatement.
I like it. They’re totally worthless IMHO. It’s just a psy op that they work for us. They only work to enrich themselves and their cronies. (Ok 99% of them).
if you call a job with 3 months a year paid vacation "work"
" . . . OMB told agencies to identify programs, projects and activities where discretionary funding will lapse on Oct. 1 and no alternative funding source is available. For those areas, OMB directed agencies to begin drafting RIF plans that would go beyond standard furloughs, **permanently eliminating jobs** in programs not consistent with President Donald Trump’s priorities in the event of a shutdown." ~ Politico
Nah, they should be able to pass an exam and return:
-- one on civics, recite the pledge of allegiance to the Flag of the USA;
-- able to author a 4000 word essay on the Constitution, the Supreme Court, and separation of powers; independent professor picked at random around US universities grades them, blind, B or A passes.
-- able to define a woman; same grading by HS biology teachers.
I see you're a natural blond.
It was a joke. Not really. But, yes I am! And, proud of it! :)))
The “solution” to not passing a budget is a continuing resolution (CR) for 90 days.
It is sad that passing a budget before the end of the fiscal year is not even considered a possibility. So now we’re just debating whether to shut it down or do a CR.
$37 Trillion in debt. We are not a serious country anymore, and haven’t been for a few decades at least.
I’m all for a shut down. Please do.
The government should absolutely NOT fund Medicaid for illegals. I heard that Michigan is funding polygamy (cough..terrorism..cough) by allowing a certain religious community to have multiple wives (from one family) on Medicaid by fraudulently filling out the applications.
They act like they can just print money for whatever……oh wait 💸💸
Grrrr 😡😡😡 That makes me furious!!
Gubmint shutdown for over 30 days at the end of 2018 (at Christmas!)
Raise your hand if you even remember
Remember Obama's shut-down, when he closed national parks? Hell, he closed PARKING LOTS, because he was a vindictive little pissant.
Shut it Down and Reduce the Fed Workforce. As Charlie Kirk said “Big Government Sucks”.
Been saying it for years. Shut it down! My fear is some weaselly Republicans will go along and get the majority. I don’t trust them as far as I can throw them.
I do too! Although I feel bad for people who live paycheck to paycheck in our dependent on those.
The last Trump government shut down, employees of Crater Lake didn’t bother to winterize the lodge so when spring hit it flooded from broken pipes. I think I’ll email Crater Lake admin and suggest them that it shouldn’t happen this time. No, telling how high up that maintenance decision came from.
We've seen the grift by way of DOGE. Shut it down. Stop paying the non essentials for a while. See if that flushes the system out more.
We’re the people skeptical about government spending in the first place, and we’re pretty comfortable letting Russ Vought prioritize essential things which will continue during a shutdown over nonessential things which will not.
That was a quote from the Rod Martin Substack and it is right on.
Maureen I am right there with you. Sick of finding things we cannot afford. The government should be better stewards of our money.
Jimmy Kimmel would do well to reach across the aisle and ask Jeff Childers for material that is actually funny!!! Just a thought.
jimmy who?
Perfect!
When you don't have a valid argument, you resort to lying, name calling, and childish and/or profane insults. On the other hand, intelligence tempered by godliness, coupled with a desire to actually lift people up, makes for refreshing entertainment the world cannot reproduce and doesn't understand anyway.
Although I swear that those on the left have, in addition to losting their minds, have totally lost their sense of humor.
They never had one.
Did they ever even have either?
Trait of a Marxist.
The adult adolescent also lacks humor. The closest to humor they can come is "making fun" of someone.
If you lack self-knowledge and don't have the ability see the absurdity and incongruities in life, humor is impossible.
Right? They don't know what they stand for but can only point the finger and resort to some very unfunny ways of expressing it. Not people I would like to hang around with!
Recently I was sort of *forced* into doing a gig for the local democrats. There was no coercion, but a venue that provides me with regular opportunities to rent out myself and my sound system recommended me to the event planners, and saying no may have cost me some other gigs. I rationalized it by thinking, "this allows me to take $500 out of the coffers of the local democrats"...
The gig was at a retirement community, so it was attended by a bunch of old progressive dems (the funniest kind). I had to sit through a bunch of nauseating speechifying by various local organizers and a couple of Assembly candidates before I got to the fun part - the live mix of the band that was performing.
If I looked beyond the TDS and the borderline communism (I could never do communism - I detest meetings), everyone there were really "nice" people. Boring, yes, and a tendency toward unattractiveness, but nice, for the most part. The folks in the band were nice and a lot of the audience members were nice - several congratulated me on the sound. However, the organizers were serious and dedicated and definitely NOT fun people - nobody I'd hang around with if I had a choice. They gave me a creepy vibe, as did the two candidates.
Mostly I came away with the impression of a bunch of old party apparatchiks who are feeling a bit desperate these days. They tried to put on the hopeful face and talk up the party line, but the attendance was lower than I expected, even for my blue part of blue California. The old pinkos are dying out, and they are being replaced by mostly-fat young anarcho-socialists who don't want to work, love their face tattoos and green hair, and want everything delivered instantly for free. None of those attended this event.
That's my report from the front. You have been briefed.
😄😄😄 Why is it the East and West coasts are full of die-hard, deep dark blue democrats? They exude such joy, huh?!!
So many mysteries.
Nancy, Traditionally, it is thought that coastal areas that engage in international shipping/commerce are in contact with an ongoing flow of new/different perspectives - compared to traditional/conservative inland areas that tend to be more insular.
That is odd that inland would be considered more insular. It seems (to me) that coastal areas are typically the people group that have more financial freedom to do whatever they would like, and again, seems to me are the ones living in an insulated subculture who prefer to hang out with their own tribe, so to speak. Money and power breeds money and power, which comes in quite handy to lobby, aka blackmail! I just never understood die-hard party politics. Especially when it seems like tradition trumps truth. Thanks for your reply!
Thank you for being nice to these old folks. Your music sound system was probably the highlight of their day. They probably remember the entertainment more than the speeches.
Thanks, KC..
They were old, but not decrepit. It was a retirement community, not a rest home. A lot of them were dancing to the music, which was produced by a band whose members were all older than me. They were there because they're democrats who support Progressive ideology, most of them unaware of its evil underpinnings. These people remember the Democrats who supported unions and the working people in this country. They stuck flowers into gun barrels in the 1960s, and Lennon's "Imagine" is probably an anthem for most of them.
There was a time in my life when I was like this, when I thought "Progressive" meant pro-progress and the achievement of everything humans are capable of as a species. I only learned of the roots of the Progressive movement a decade or so ago, and that was part of my awakening to this poisonous ideology.
While I still believe in my heart that the human race is capable of being so much more than it is, I know that political ideologies aren't the way that's going to happen. The only way I see us moving forward is by spiritual awakening and people taking responsibility for their own behavior.
Too arrogant!
Or Eric-the imaginary hobgoblin!
ABC needs to run a "fact check" chyron on all their shows telling their leftist audience that Tyler Robinson is a leftist - with some of the details - for a few days. They need to do this on Kimmel's show until he does a real apology.
More liberals think that a conservative killed Charlie Kirk (30%) than know a liberal did it (10%). Kimmel's stunt and non apology may have made that worse.
Fetterman tried to explain to dumbo Dana bash on cnnlol that shutting down the government will give the Trump administration the opportunity to permanently get rid of the non essential agency staff. Or all the BS the demonrats support and grift from. TDS is so strong in these libbies that she didn't get it. It's quite eye opening that a vaxx injured Fetterman is seeing reality more clearly. Possibly the only time a vaxx injury worked for the better.
The smartest democrat has brain damage.
OMG!😂
It's obviously Fetterman II.
Yeah.
—“But … “A lot of the things Democrats fight for will not be able to be paid,” Trump added.”
And THAT’S the kicker right there! He knows *we* don’t care if they shut down those things but the statist Democrats and their base care a whole lot! 😑
In negotiating “he who cares the least wins” perfect strategy TAWc
—““Presidential portraits made more diverse by inclusion of first mechanical-American.”
🤣🤣🤣
On a serious note, this brings to mind the story of Pinocchio. A story steeped in the occult.
In the cartoon, Gepetto can be seen "wishing on a star." Except what is depicted is Gepetto PRAYING to the "morning star, son of the dawn." Lucifer. He counterfeits The Bright and Morning Star, Christ Jesus.
The notion that Pinocchio, a creation of man, can become a "real boy" is occult, through and through. It is a cartoon that depicts Gepetto saying "I can be like The Most High."
Sorry if I ruined anyone's childhood . . .
Edit: Christ Jesus has already won this battle. Glorify Him, and don't worry about this stuff.
Analogy to the 'Golem' of the Ancient Jewish Kabbalist.
Sorry, can't help it when these things come to mind.
\_o_/
Perfect lgbtq+++++ bedtime story.
Not "Mechanical American." "Cybernetic organism."(Terminator 3).
We're not ready to replace congressmen with robots.
We have yet to develop a robot that is affected by booze in the same way.
Robots can be "oiled up," too?
That "technology" is just around the corner.
The word “first” is a little frightening. 😅
At this point we might prefer congress to be replaced by AI bots.
Can Jeff provide the programming?
Good point!
It will go in that direction if the Klaus Schwabs get their way.
Seriously tho it could be an upgrade.
I'm with you Based! At least we wouldn't have to look at Rashida Tlaib anymore.....but I would miss Sen. Kennedy.....
heading into the age of trans-humans, Buyden was just ahead of the times
I’m dying! 🤣
Trump the penultimate troll. Legend.
I see what you did there 😎
They should shut up and thank dog that Trump has thus far limited the Autopen scandal to ridicule and mockery. (For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened.)
Makes one wonder if many have already been ‘turned over to a reprobate mind to believe a lie and be damned”….Romans
Because it seems that all the left has ‘left’ are the most deviant, demented, violent dregs of society…… cruel, empty souls who live in darkness, FOR darkness, and they LOve the darkness, rather than the light. Substituting evil for good and good for evil. What is bitter they call sweet and what id sweet, they call bitter. (Isaiah)
They did not receive the love of the Truth.
They were offered, but did not receive it.
Yes, the eventual battle with the left will be between the "God IS" and the "God ISN'T" crowds. This is becoming abundantly clear to everyone. To borrow the acronym, GAW (God always wins)!
Thank dog????
They have no God. That's the root of all their problems.
Oops! You caught me. I was about to ask "Why not the ultimate?"
😂😂😂
I pray that the Demtoids shut down the Government and Trump fires 50% of federal employees. Hell 75%. Then if need hire back the 10% of the 75% that actually work.
In any hiring, a background check including lie detector plus an application they need to complete and sign under penalty, etc., etc. Can think of lots of questions to weed out infiltrators. You may have a different opinion, but you may not subvert while on the public payroll.
FYI: This is the only way to legally control subversive action, they cannot be held to something they are not sworn to.
https://prologue.blogs.archives.gov/2014/05/30/the-oath-of-office-the-first-act-of-the-first-congress/
This is a legally mandatory, written oath, witnessed and notarized. It never “dropped off” in Law.
Not the ceremonial hand on Bible one. Someone did research and virtually no officers of the court, legislators, or agencies have done this, including top generals. That means there is nothing to hold them to.
Yes, make sure the ones fired are all democrats.
Easy since 95 +% of federal employees are Demtoids.
Not in those fields that require a top secret security clearance. Many libs have not lived a clean enough life to get one.
Many libs have not lived a DIRTY enough life to get one.
Herein lies the problem.
...more like 99.9%...
The Word of God says that if you don’t work you should not eat. That has no limitation political affiliation…. Thus no work, no pay, no job , no food!
It’s harvest time - I am sure their are some agricultural jobs that need temporary employees.
Oy Vey, next.
They will morph themselves into repentant Rinos but De'ass will still show.
When I saw Demtoids, my brain read Demarroids 😅
Oh my word, I can’t even roll my eyes any harder about the comments on Biden being such a “decent” and “honorable” person 🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄 Gag 🤮
Crazy people say crazy things.
So do evil people.
plain and simple
Whatever npr says
Right??
How do we know it was Biden? It could have been the Autopen.
Ask Tara Reid about that.
Right??!
We all know Obama was getting in his third term under the Cabbage brain. Bet many of those 'staffers' thought, "well, if HE can do it, so can I"
I want the government shut down. So, I'm failing to see the downside in the Democrats making obscene demands.
Same!!
I want Trump to not negotiate and let the government shutdown. Say outwardly, "Oh no. Look what they make me do." while cutting things left and right.
I thought the gubmint response was not to negotiate with terrorists?
I’d love that too!!
Right!? It’s their liberal bs that won’t be funded if it shuts down.
I really, really want to know where Rouths money came from. Please, please release this information. I cannot believe they don’t have this info.
They know. We won’t.
I'm going to guess, his daughter will now be investigated for having received all that money and likely didn't pay any taxes. Oh well....
I hope so ‼️
buried with the Epstein files
I hope not.
He may even be Epstein-ed in prison. Same with Robinson.
Have a safe trip.
With that said:
Auto pen portrait is classic, funny as S###. Liberals won't get it. They have no sense of humor, I mean, they think Kimmel is funny.
Random: They sure did squash that Nashua Sky Meadow Country Club wedding shooting by 23-year-old Hunter Nadeau real quick. Maybe it was because he yelled FREE PALESTINE before shooting and killing folks.
Same with the 22-year-old New Hampshire man who threatened to kill Gov. Kelly Ayotte using a "weapon of mass destruction" and invoking antisemitic rhetoric.
The media sure does hate this country.
So, word of advice, stop expecting them to tone down the rhetoric. They WANT these attacks. Even the killing of those migrants was a net positive to these cretins because it also meant that those ICE agents were shot at.
The “migrants” are expendable to the Left. They are just pawns.
umm. so are all of us.
You are absolutely right on both points!
Oh….they get it. But they’ll never admit it. They’ll just pop a few Tylenols and shrug.
Agree. But can we stop calling them the “media?” They’re not the news and they aren’t the media. Let’s call them the “government's propaganda machine.” Or, C and Cers, you can come up with something better? Please? I’m still waking up and on my first cup of coffee.
I call them the Leftist Propaganda Machine
Presstitutes.
See!! I knew someone on here could think of a fabulous name for those traitors!!
They have no sense of humor, I mean, they think Kimmel is funny.
I meant to have that in quotes, then I would have said, only 160,000 of people watching might have thought Kimmel was funny
Apparently, leftists only humor is found in the death of any conservative, especially a well known one.
It's not a good sign in the Charlie Kirk shooting that they haven't recovered the bullet.
Also the 'recovered' rifle is sketchy. And if the bullet doesn't match that rifle, then the bullet will mysteriously never be found.
Hopefully it all gets cleared up.
I read that the coroner has it
I think you're correct. https://www.newsnationnow.com/politics/charlie-kirk-bullet-exit-wound/
...now it's a miracle bullet:
"The coroner found the bullet “just beneath the skin,” The bullet “should have just gone through and through. It likely would have killed those standing behind him too,”
“Even in death, Charlie managed to save the lives of those around him. Remarkable. Miraculous,” he said."
It is very unlikely that the coroner found the .30/06 bullet still in Charlie Kirk's body. At 200 yards, that round has enough kinetic energy to enter, create significant internal damage, and make a sizable exit wound. The bullet would continue to travel until it hit something with enough mass to stop it. It is a good and solid hunting caliber for medium, large game. It originated as a military caliber.
Yes. Lots of vids show the explosive power of that round when fired from that distance. So... still a sketchy story.
The coroners report will be interesting.
I'm sure the Warren Commission will work out all the details. They are experts in the "magic bullet" theory.
Sorry, no. A 30-06 hollow point, designed for hunting so the bullet doesn't keep traveling, stops inside the target after doing massive damage. And with a low grain powder, the velocity is reduced.
Ammo selection to avoid over-penetration is well studied. One has to be careful of overpenetration with a round as anemic as .380 ACP or .38 Special.
A 30-06 hunting bullet would easily overpenetrate a human sized target shot in the neck.
Not trying to be argumentative, but there is a lot of data out there.
But remember you are speaking of a human neck, not the chest of a deer or moose... BTW, military snipers have traditionally used spire point boat tail bullets, not hollow points. The gram weight of the bullet and powder charge are dependent upon the mission.
True. I was just making the point that it's not impossible for the bullet to have stopped inside Charlie Kirk, as most of the comments here are implying. A hollow point flattens and fragments on impact, so passing through the victim and continuing to travel is impossible. And using a hollow point, given the internal damage it does, might have been Robinson's choice, versus a FMJ, which would continue through the victim but with much less internal damage.
But the bullet supposedly ricochetted off the kevlar vest up into the neck.
yup. will go through a 14 inch pine tree. So.....
A miracle would have been Charlie got shot with an 30.06 and lived.
a miracle would be anyone believing anything these people say
It's an inverse miracle. It's occult magick, and there are many that ARE believing it.
I used to be close to a great many of them
You are NOT wrong there!! But there are some ... probably the ones currently OD-ing on Tylenol.
Remarkable indeed.
A 30-06 at that range would not have stopped just beneath the skin.
They are mocking us.
Alex Jones, of all people, had a bit on the bullet that may calm down the conspiracy theories.
He said that a doctor who saw the x-rays told him that the bullet ricocheted off Kirk's vertebrae (I think) and went back into his body. Did a lot of damage. Let me look for the link...
https://x.com/RealAlexJones/status/1969905525249749237
If this is true, the Turning Point people caused a heap of trouble with their initial simplistic explanation.
Warning ⛔️ on the Alex Jones link. It shows the graphic shooting of Charlie, twice. I initially saw it as it happened and didn’t want to see it again but Alex Jones did not give a warning before showing the shot twice. Something I did not want to see again. I’m thankful that Charlie probably didn’t feel a thing. He was immediately with the Lord.
Sorry, I didn't think about that. I hang out on X a lot, and videos autoplay without notice a lot - it wasn't the first time I saw it.
What a spin!
Bones of steel???? Give me a break.
And if the coroner has it, he wasn't shot with a 30-06.
I actually think Peggy Hall has a good point. I watched her videos on YouTube and tons of content on instagram video reels that show so much to be skeptical about.
I’m pretty sure the bullet hit his body armor and the edge, changing the trajectory to an upward direction, and being possible to be soft point, ( they make that in 30-06) would have pretty much shattered, sending multiple smallish fragments up into his brain. And none having enough mass to come out. It makes sense to me. May also have done the same thing if it hit his collar bone. As far as the rifle goes, yeah, weird. But I seem to remember a video early on of someone jumping off a roof that looked like he was carrying something long.
He wasn’t wearing body armor, I believe. You could see his nipples through the t-shirt and rolls of his stomach when he was sitting, hunched over. Hr was throwing hats to the crowd, moving very naturally.
Why has no one on here expounded on the theory Charlie was actually shot from behind, around the right ear, exiting in the left neck area, hence the very bloody exit wound. They are trying to spin this as no exit wound in his back, but this would actually be the entrance area. They are trying to tie this all up in too pretty a package.
Question more: Why many Americans aren’t buying the official story of Charlie Kirk’s murder — RT World News https://share.google/8hJz1Gt5LF9oEabQP
Don't hold your breath.
They have the bullet; recovered during the PM.
This 3-minute video was the one that really got me thinking… exploding pagers and now exploding mics ? 🤔
https://x.com/realstewpeters/status/1971087324680421499
In the footage I viewed, I saw the neck wound appear and immediately thought 'low caliber' because a high caliber hit would have done a hell of a lot more damage than what I was seeing. Also, there was no blood splatter all over the place which would also fit in with 'low caliber' as being the round used. I also suspected that a rooftop trajectory would not fit in with what I was seeing. I say 'suspected' because I was not there, but I still am waiting to hear if the angle is off and/or the canopy was in the way of a clear rooftop shot.
Also, in footage viewed I saw the guy who put something into his pocket and that did not look right. Put that together with the odd behaviors and distractions immediately going around Charlie? Like 911, things just didn't and still don't add up. And now, Peters says the security detail was Israeli? My, my, my!
I heard commentary saying a guy to the right had a pistol under his arm and made the shot, and that this was a technique employed by intelligence agencies in such goings on. It did not look quite right to me and maybe it is fraught with too much failure risk potential. Or maybe it was unused backup if the first plan failed to do the job. The thing which looks more probable is the muscle motion of 'detonator' man in the Stew Peters video. I find that plausible because it looks consistent with how hands move. But I still go for the big things which are unmistakable. And in the Kirk assassination this is that a large caliber shot is totally inconsistent with what we actually saw. That is, in the Kennedy assassination, half of the back of Kennedy's head was blown away and there was plenty of blood spray and splatter all over the place. And that is what a large caliber round does. it makes a real mess. This kind of thing is totally missing with Charlie's kill shot.
My final thought given what we saw is this. If there is no real government follow up by the FBI and/or Justice, then once again we will be handed yet another cover up. However, by now and with past experience, the public will not believe it. And in not believing cynicism of the government will only grow.
They seem to have everyone in on the cover up, including the governor of Utah, JD Vance and of course the fbi and cia. I have watched such detailed videos that I see with my own eyes the so called security was definitely in on it, including Frank, his mentor who was clearly giving signs. I also saw Frank in one video run to the suv immediately: he did not run to Charlie’s side like he said. According to Peggy hall, the whole event is staged using a Hollywood gun machine, something hit him, but it was a Hollywood gun shot and fake blood was ready, also I saw the main security man put a black box under Charlie’s chair, which could have made the chair bounce up to create that effect of Charlie being hit. Also Charlie’s own team released the video of him getting shot to control that image that circulated first and quickly, this could have been quickly altered in real time to add ai effects. They had the old guy in place to distract and say it was me, they likely had multiple ways to create multiple story lines for confusion and believably
Not buying that it was faked. Frank Turek was a long time friend of Charlie’s, he appeared on the podcast many times. Charlie would never be part of such a thing. I’ve followed him for years. His faith, family and country was sincere. I do think there is a coverup going on, but I have to trust it is for some reason I don’t know about.
No one suggests that maybe the shot was from behind Charlie, right ear area entrance coming out the left neck area. Small entrance wound but large exit wound. If so the bullet would have ended up buried in the grass and ground. Any coincidence that they started tearing up all that sod a few days after to cement it all. A designated “construction zone”.
Although I have no way of knowing, I tend to incline in your direction. The shot narrative is wholly faulty. We clearly saw something which does not match 'the roof top' shooter narrative. And everything else highly irregular supports that the official narrative being proffered is totally absurd.
One of the videos I saw suggesting the behind Charlie “kill shot” was saying the trajectory backwards and forwards would be easy to compute just going from entrance and exit extending it downward and upward from behind. Simple high school math. This guy suggested just looking at the forensics. But for some reason, more and more ludicrous facts keep coming out.
He has only known Frank since 2020. That is when Charlie emailed Frank and asked for his help. Also, that’s not my point. I never said Frank conspired to hurt Charlie. Quite the opposite. Frank is assisting in pulling off this fake scene so that Charlie can go into hiding, collect many millions of dollars(150M) in exchange for not speaking any further about Israel. It was very orchestrated and that’s very easy to see from stew Peters, Peggy hall and thousands of others who all share much more details in slow motion. Everyone online is questioning Erika and the whole narrative, this is not my original idea and most importantly I am
Not looking to change anyone’s mind or convince anyone, so I don’t care if you believe me or not, my post is for people who have certain other feelings or instincts to hear something that resonates, maybe one percent who read this. It is not you, that’s OK. I’m not here for people set in their belief to argue with me.
You put it out there, I was disagreeing. I have watched Charlie for years, you obviously haven’t. Such an elaborate charade is beyond me in what I know of Charlie. It goes against everything he stood for.
I have read Peggy Hall in the past and she always has some conspiracy up her sleeve. I am simply rebutting what I believe to be malarkey. You can put it out there as your right and I believe I can disagree as is my right.
I don't go into the weeds because going there is a perpetual motion machine. But clearly the fire power of the alleged shot does in no way correspond with whatever we saw. What is totally impossible is the starting point.
Now unleash the IRS to investigate Routh's daughter. Surely taxes were paid on that $150k...right?
Don't the leftist insist that everyone just pay their fair share?
If she sends me $75 grand, I will provide her with Free Legal Advice.
😂🤣👍
yes, she is no innocent in all this.
Yes. Isn’t the supposedly unknowing driver of the getaway car charged with the same crime as the bank/convenience store robber? Have the funds been frozen? Maybe crowd-source these questions. Someone somewhere knows something. And what’s that theory of ‘six degrees of separation’?
Fair share as long as it isn’t them. Classic “as long as it doesn’t happen to me.”
I thought this too.
I wish conservative speakers would use drones that are monitored. Would Charlie still be alive if had also used drones to monitor the area? Would Trump have been shot? We have the technology to detect snipers on rooftops. I pray that people will take their security precautions more seriously.
There was a drone. Nobody seems to know whose it was. 🙄