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Christy's avatar

This is the first time I disagree with Jeff. It’s time to get mad. Too many Americans are complacent! I can’t tell you how many people look at me w that jab stare bc I talk about something as simple as BRICS. They wanna talk about hollywood or football. America was won with 3% and it’s probably about that many now. It’s gonna be interesting. I know Jeff is upbeat w good stories, just wonder if we are “winning” enough battles.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Start at the local level, in your own community. Attend local and county board meetings and find out which elected officials are working for you or working against you. Call them out respectfully, watch how they vote and be informed. Then start a group of other conservatives that you can share information with so they recognize whether the politicians are working for them or just using the office for their personal gain. At the very least every citizen needs to be involved by attending meetings and watching how their representatives vote. Volunteer to work at the polls!

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Jen's avatar

It's difficult, we worked so hard here in Charleston to do just this - and flip the school board. That was achieved and now there is complete and total chaos. The left won't stop lying. I could give you a million examples, but it's just lie after lie after lie. And they've succeeded in riling up the whole community and tearing us all apart. They bullied all the principals to send angry letters. It's the internet that is causing all of this, because without these stupid facebook groups they wouldn't have the ability to rile up this many people with what are total lies to their low information voters. It's insane, these people have no idea that the crap they're supporting is directly against their own interests. Case in point, the teachers want a raise, our side tried to get the $5k for them, their guy kiboshed it and keeps refusing because he has other plans for that money - activism programs and missing money (as we've seen continuously over the years with them). So how do you stop these stupid facebook boards that are causing all of this calamity in local communities?

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Someone Somewhere's avatar

Prayer, fervent prayer, and fasting while you continue to fight the good fight right where God has you placed on the battle line. And...I'll join you from my distant completely corrupted state.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I get it, similar situation here. One step forward 2 steps back it seems. But my mantra: we did not get here overnight, and we won't fix this overnight. My tactic is to ignore the FB trolls. Oh I read some of their posts but I don't feed them. Emojis and comments just mean greater reach for their posts. Their influence is likely over stated. Yes they are the loudest, but they are small in numbers relative to the population. Start your own FB groups over less controversial issues. Kick out the obvious trolls but keep the ones who are pushing back but not obnoxious. You can win some of them over if you keep to the issues and not tolerating personal attacks. We have 2 groups, one over a tax issue, and another over kids with reading disabilities who are not being served. Both are bi partisan groups the moderators work hard on keeping the focus on issues not politics, and both have grown a lot in the last several months.

They did defeat us on SB (we got one of 3 seats in a very close race) last year by calling our slate 'the book banners' on their pages due to the porn in the library issue our candidates focused on..

This year we are taking a page from their playbook. They run as friendly, sweet, moderates (and let their trolls sling the mud for them) and then take a hard left when they win. We have been sending out via email lists and closed FB groups a short issues based survey. and have gotten over 300 responses so far. We are going to run on help for struggling readers, school safety and a 3rd point still TBD.

I have been hard at this effort for many years, long before covid and it IS a huge struggle to get people to stay in the fight over the long haul. When I feel burnout coming on, I take a few weeks off. Host a backyard BBQ, work on my flower beds, pray for guidance, clean out a closet. And stay off social media. Oh something comes up and drags me back in, but I come back with a better attitude and the will to fight another day.

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rolandttg's avatar

Great advise. Think of our two trolls. One seems to be gone. The other seldom posts, and when he does, I never read his posts, nor do I ever reply when he comments on my posts. Good for you. Hope others follow your lead. Remember when people started running onto stadium fields during a game to get attention ? Remember when it all but stopped? When the cameras refused to show them.

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BJBRN's avatar

good feedback! i don’t use FB or IG, but in my teens, worked at an ice cream shop with many cute young women. We frequently received phone calls from creeps. We presented this to the police who in return coaches us on how to respond. The message was they were looking for and thriving off a reaction... so therefore, we were advised not to react! hopefully the bulk of these agitators now days are nothing more than a few modern creeps with a larger audience who needs to learn to ignore them like you said!!!

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Jen's avatar

Thank you!! This is very helpful advice :-)

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

Start local? I live in a solid red state. Our representatives suck. They are RINOs that always vote against the people and for whatever Deep State BS there is. They are not removable. Voting is rigged across the board. It doesn’t work. So what local is there to start with? Even the low hanging fruit, what should be easy, is already captured.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m sorry I don’t have all the answers but at least I know I’m involved and trying.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

No criticism against you. I think it’s important to acknowledge HOW BAD THINGS ARE. I was irritated by Jeff’s glib, “Look over there! Thjngs will be great, I promise!” Like, what.world.do.you.think.you.live.in? We must do what we can but with clear lenses about the daunting task we are engaged in. We are starting at the end. Decades have strengthened the practices and skills of the opposition. It is a David and Goliath moment. I’m a Buddhist, btw. But even I have arrived at a place of: only God (Buddha Nature) can win this. We’ll find out if we have been deemed worthy (of saving) aka “good karma”. Those here, at least having SOME clarity, I think are more fortunate in the karma department. That’s a requirement to save ourselves. The poor deludeds are lost, creating more negative karma (sins) for themselves so sinking under the waves they generate as they flail around.

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rolandttg's avatar

Read "Washington's War", by Bruce Chadwick, and "Band of Giants", by Jack Kelly. Sorry, but until everyone complaining about how difficult it is to get our country back understands the suffering, perseverance, and grit the people who earned this freedom for us , we are lost. Got shoes to wear in the winter? Clothes? Shelter? Enough food? Medicine? Many, if not most of our forefathers who fought and died for us didn't. Think of living day day out without shoes in the winter.

My beloved dearly departed ole boss said we have become a nation of pussies. Thirty years ago. He will be turning over in his grave at how far we have degenerated in the 10 years since his death.

Almost everyone fighting the good fight now simply checked out of all things that allowed this degeneration to occur. You think we are going to fix this in a year? In a decade? Understand this. The controllers, the Khazarians, have been at this for centuries, probably millennia. Perspective, and perseverance.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, props for the reminder to be grateful. My mom was one of 6 girls, my dad one of 4 boys born in the 1930's. Often meat was something they only got for Sunday dinner. They had 2 pairs of shoes - one for church and school and the other for the rest of the time. My mom was the 5th born and every item of clothes she had was hand-me-downs, often with patches. My dad worked as a farm hand to pay for his HS football uniform. Neither knew they were 'poor', it was just how people lived.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Black-pilled feelings have to be hidden. I am right there with ya. But people are more likely to follow a happy warrior. I have been part of a grassroots group that meets once a month for the last 3+ years now. Find a like minded tribe (or start one - this group started with a dozen people in July 2020 - there were 200 people in the meeting last night, and over 500 on the email list) We work hard to lift each other up and keep people informed.

Look for and sign up for 'citizen input' kind of opportunities. Our SD has literally a dozen of them - mostly liberals on there until the last couple of years. City same way, committees, task forces. I attend the meetings and look for 'friendlies' and then recruit them. After a lull following the Nov 2022 disaster I am finding people who are recognizing the rot, and are ready to get engaged, but don't know how. It's a lot of work but what choice do we have? Just doing one small thing will help take to get towards bigger steps, even if it is not always linear.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Donna, you are amazing and I’m proud to be a fellow Missourian of yours despite living in different counties. You are inspire me to keep fighting!

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Donna in MO's avatar

I am just happy to have transitioned from a lone nerdy voice in the wilderness 20 years ago to a place where I am fighting alongside others. Keeping people motivated when there are the inevitable setbacks is a challenge as is learning from our mistakes.

Newbies to the scene tend to see it all in black and white and have a take no prisoners attitude but coming in like a bull in china shop does not help. A new guy who attended his first Council meeting a few weeks ago is running all over town and on social media talking about Marxist infiltration and riling people up but the average non awake citizen is turned off by this kind of rhetoric. I have told him there are no marxists on the city council, although some of them are naive and left leaning and taking advice from a regional organization (MARC) that does have Marxist leanings. Trying to get him to focus on specific issues and data vs name calling and inflammatory rhetoric. The normies are not there yet and we don't want to scare them off. Build relationships first, and don't let perfect be the enemy of the good. There are a couple on the Council who ARE coming around and screaming at them does not help.

Some have given up since we lost 2 of the 3 in this years SB election. A loss is just an opportunity to learn.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

You’re a warrior, keep up the good work. I agree, bad behavior and name calling doesn’t help the cause of conservatism at all.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Hah. You must live in SD like I do … at least, aside from Kristi Noem, that’s how I feel.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

Bingo!!!! I used to be in NYC, almost a decade ago so nothing to do with the pandemic, though I predicted a totalitarian move of some kind when I left. There the DNC captured government. I was so disappointed when I saw the other side of the uniparty, up close snd personal. Dusty Johnson, Mike Rounds, John Thune, I am talking to you. The wrong votes, every time. Thune is responsible for the Internet Patriot Act he’s trying to get passed: RESTRICT act. Same coin, different face, although the people (West River at least, not sure about East) do have a voice. I saw that first hand when we defeated the mask mandate.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Yes, I was devastated, after moving here 3 years ago, to find all this out.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

I take some comfort in my neighbors, again West River, who won’t take whatever it is lying down, when push comes to shove. I’d rather be here than anywhere else, and that includes Fl. We have a better geographic barrier too.

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SusanMc's avatar

Not sure the crux of the problem is at the polls; the machines are the problem bc they can be manipulated to swap votes or add at will.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Yes I realize that’s a huge problem in addition to all the other ways to rig an election such as stopping the count to “find” as many ballots as necessary to get the outcome they want, deceased people voting etc. But at least as an election judge I’m able to refuse to allow a person to vote who doesn’t have the proper ID or is at the wrong voting place. The system could be very tight and secure if the election clerks and state officials wanted it to be…which most don’t.

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Tom's avatar

Jeff needs to keep doing what is right because it's RIGHT.

Not because he thinks it will work. It may, but it may not.

We are saved by FAITH. Our works are dead. We do what is right, in faith, because it's RIGHT. If you believe in the One our Father sent, you are a subject of His kingdom, and not of this world.

So be of good cheer, knowing that these few years of life are NOTHING compared to eternity in fellowship with your Creator!

The battle was won on the cross!

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Blair's avatar

Amen, Tom. Amen.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes. This is not our final destination or frontier, but we owe it to our earthly existence to fight for God, because none of us should be deluded, this is a fight for God and His commandments and teachings.

I will only refer to the left as the Demon party or party of Satan (his willing and often unknowing disciples for sure) EVEN if some of them claim to not believe in his existence or God's existence.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Exactly! We are not tiptoeing through the tulips these days. I would certainly not count overmuch on the aide of my fellow citizens.

I am sure Jeff hangs out with a different crowd. Down here, it looks grim. And there’s so many more of us peons.

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Christy's avatar

Well also, everyone has their gifts. I don’t belong in polite company bc I don’t sugar coat my words and say things most ppl don’t wanna hear. I think most ppl don’t want to know the truth. And I’m done tiptoeing through the tulips.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Well, Christy, sounds like you should sit by me. I’m known as a troublemaker in many polite circles, I’m afraid. I stopped caring about what people think a couple of decades ago.

My ex-husband was not amused. But he’s a full bore commie, who hasn’t figured it out yet, so no great loss.

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Christy's avatar

Lmao. I would gladly sit by u in any circle!!! I don’t mind debating ppl, just don’t tell me I’m wrong. We can have different opinions, but neither r wrong. Most ppl can’t debate anymore with out getting all snowflakey. And sorry about ur ex, so many DONT want to figure it out. Tragic!

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AngelaK's avatar

😒

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AL's avatar

100% agree. In fact, that line irked me. I don' think it's enough to say that they'll fail simply "because of American ingenuity. Self-reliance. Faith. Courage. Competitiveness." We have seen many moments in history where the bad guys win and it takes decades and sometimes even centuries to recover. What we're in now seems to be as bad as anything in history. We need to fight--actively--and not just rely on faith and courage as passive concepts.

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