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Jeff Childers's avatar

ERRATA:

— Daily Mail headline was missing on Lemieux story. Fixed.

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David A's avatar

Over 30,000 scientists, with over 9,000 PHDs, signed the Oregon petition debunking CC. (Edited for Andre and his distinction without a difference in his below comments)

The NIPCC ( Nongovernmental International Panel on Climate Change ) with references to hundreds of published papers, likewise effectively debunked the scam, along with a European petition that had over 10,000 signatures. The web site CO2 science also, through peer reviewed literature effectively demonstrates the massive benefits of increased CO2.

So the answer is that no, they will ever claim a consensous regardless of facts.

However a good article effectivefely debunking CC is the most effective red pill to share with family and friends that only ever hear the MSM version of CC. Red pill a friend on CC, and you open them to a host of issues. Consider sharing this...https://open.substack.com/pub/anderdaa7/p/global-warming?r=slvym&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=web

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mary's avatar

But what in the world will John Kerry do?? This extremely and extraordinarily important man will have no job!!! Say it ain’t so.......

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

He’ll have to ketchup on his Heinz sight. 😂

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MaryAnn's avatar

Pure gold! 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

OH BUT WE HAVE…But we have. For too long now!!

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

And Al Gore. What will he do with all his carbon credits? I have an idea or two. 😜

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Mark G.'s avatar

Guess he can treat them like S&H Greenstamps -worthless pieces of the past.

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CMCM's avatar

That bloated phony can stuff them up......well, you know where.

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TB's avatar

He'll have to go back to inventing internets.

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Garden Lover's avatar

I can think of a few places he can put them. 🤪

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Vonu's avatar

He can start walking everywhere that scheduled airlines don't go.

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CH's avatar

Kerry flies on a private jet.

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Vonu's avatar

Which he'd have to stop doing.

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Vonu's avatar

If it were up to me, politicians wouldn't be allowed to segregate themselves from the public whose lives they make difficult.

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Vonu's avatar

Their criminality isn't as much a problem as their elitism.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

But it's not HIS jet...it's his wife's. 🙄

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Garden Lover's avatar

I’d just like to see him walk everywhere. Maybe ride his bike. Also, ride the LA Metro without any bodyguards. Let’s see how long he’d last.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Then we can ask "Hey, John! Why the long face?" 😁😁

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CMCM's avatar

I'm remembering his arrogant comment about flying commercial...."People LIKE ME can't fly commercial" or some such. Well, perhaps now people like HIM will finally be out of work. One can hope....

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

He still has his horse face and James Taylor for a friend, so all is not lost.

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CitizenA's avatar

His ‘donkey’ face; he can easily be the mascot for the Dems. He’s a total ass.

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Kelli's avatar

I intended to briefly skim the comments here, and thought your post read "... Oregon petition debunking C&C."

I immediately thought "Is Oregon so far gone that they're signing petitions about C&C??!"

LOL ... Note to self: "Slow down, and read more carefully!"

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣

The fact that this is actually a plausible headline says it all! 😕

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Vince's avatar

I did the same thing, lol.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I've been following the Global Warming Petition Project for 2 decades. A 12-page review article about the human-caused global warming hypothesis is circulated with the petition which can be found here.

http://www.petitionproject.org/review_article.php

The review article is a very readable scientific presentation of the evidence. I think anyone would find it illuminating.

Signatories are 31,487 scientists including 9,029 PhDs. Printable PDF is here:

http://www.petitionproject.org/gw_article/GWReview_OISM150.pdf

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

AHEM.

You mean global cooling.

No I mean global warming.

Err, sorry, Climate change.

Because the climate never changed before the introduction of ICE or mankind..cough cough Mt vesuvius eruption...dinosaur die off...Noah's flood.

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Vonu's avatar

Why shouldn't the FCC be tasked with removing fraudulent material from the public airwaves?

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TB's avatar

Because they would probably end up removing Trump from the public airwaves on the basis that he "committed fraud" somehow.

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Vonu's avatar

Fraud vitiates everything.

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

PLEASE everyone link on this Global-warming......it will curl your toes, and I mean it. A bit lengthy but full of ‘scary’ stuff....

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LW's avatar

David, Please, do you easily enough have links to above referenced 30,000 and 10,000 signed petitions? Powerful.

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André Angelantoni's avatar

It appears that you invented the "30,000 PhD scientists." I can find it nowhere on the link you provided. I did find "tens of thousands of others"—which could be carpet cleaners for all we know since there is no citation.

Exaggerate much?

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David A's avatar

It is there, and here is the direct link, zero exaggeration. Sorry you missed it.

(I tend to understate, it is actually over 31,000 signatoures.)

"Of the various petitions on global warming circulated for signatures by scientists, the one by the Petition Project, a group of physicists and physical chemists based in La Jolla, California, was distributed just within the US and 31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs. Other European papers have additional thousands of signatures from those skeptical scientists.

When the scientists skeptics wish to demonstrate that there is a strong scientific community of thousands of PHD scientist who reject the theory of CAGW, unlike the 97% studies, they do it correctly. The scientific position of the vast majority of CAGW skeptics is clearly outlined by Physicist Frederick Seitz, past President of the US National Academy of Sciences and of Rockefeller University. He received the National Medal of Science, the Compton Award, the Franklin Medal, and other awards. He wrote the Petition cover letter these scientists signed. It goes to the heart of the matter…

“We urge the United States government to reject the global warming agreement that was written in Kyoto, Japan in December, 1997, and any other similar proposals. The proposed limits on greenhouse gases would harm the environment, hinder the advance of science and technology, and damage the health and welfare of mankind.

There is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth's atmosphere and disruption of the Earth's climate. Moreover, there is substantial scientific evidence that increases in atmospheric carbon dioxide produce many beneficial effects upon the natural plant and animal environments of the Earth.” (The Petition project references hundreds of peer reviewed reports supporting their position.)"

http://www.petitionproject.org/

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André Angelantoni's avatar

"zero exaggeration."

Are you having trouble reading?

"31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs."

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David A's avatar

In that you are correct, hower with the European petition, plus the CO2 science pedition, it is pretty much there, plus the other signatories are credentialed, and PHD is somewhat overrated. At any rate, glad you found the link, and hopefully you saw how, like the entire CAGW alarmist "science", incredibly flawed the "consensous" claims are.

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André Angelantoni's avatar

I'm quite sure that these numbers are inflated with anyone who wanted to sign it, whether they are radiologists, structural engineers or the others I found on the other list.

Heck, I might find my local mechanic signed it.

And saying the are 9,000 PhD doesn't mean much if they have PhDs in fields that have nothing to do with the climate.

The whole thing is designed to be propaganda, not valid statements. If they wanted them to have weight, they would have put them together with integrity. As it is they are sucking you into believing there is validity to them.

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David A's avatar

Well, I am pleased after numerous hints you found the citation, and even more pleased that after reading the Global Warming post you have zero criticism other then meaningless blather about your mechanic

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Politico Phil's avatar

The only ones exaggerating here are the proponents like yourself of the human-caused global warming hypothesis. But of course that is how the Left operates: Accuse those you are attacking of the very actions you are guilty of.

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AngelaA's avatar

He shared two petitions debunking CC, how does that make him a proponent of it?

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Politico Phil's avatar

You misunderstand. I was replying to Andre's accusation.

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AngelaA's avatar

Oh, I see it now. Thanks!

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André Angelantoni's avatar

Well, he's lying when he says 30,000 PhD scientists.

It doesn't say that in the citation he provides.

He's making things up.

If that's not true, he's free to respond with where he got the 30,000 PhD scientists number from.

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Politico Phil's avatar

You're a troll. He didn't say 30,000 PhDs. I guess you are the one who can't read.

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André Angelantoni's avatar

What is wrong with you? Why don't you just go read what he wrote? Here is direct quotation:

"Over 30,000 PHD scientists signed the Oregon petition debunking CC."

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Politico Phil's avatar

Let me get this straight. Because David made the mistake of saying "30,000 PhD scientists" instead of saying 30,000 scientists and PhDs when he referenced the Oregon petition, that means he willfully "lied" and the whole Petition is bogus? LOL... Anyone who took 2 minutes to read the Petition would realize the simple mistake he made.

And then you accused me of lying, 'Thank you for admitting that you made this up: "30,000 PhDs."' Why don't you go read the Petition, the accompanying 12 page review letter and the hundreds of peer-reviewed reports supporting it for yourself. Then you can intelligently interact with the position itself rather than trying to base your silly critique on an ad hominem attack. Of course, that assumes you even have the intellectual capability to think through the Petitions basis in facts. Personally, I have my doubts and do not expect to hear back from you in any intelligent manner.

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Politico Phil's avatar

In case you are lost, here is the direct link to the 12 review letter for your interaction.

http://www.petitionproject.org/review_article.php

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André Angelantoni's avatar

Oh, please. These are all padded with PhDs that know nothing about climatology and the people describing them exaggerate about their importance.

If I had the time I would look for all the radiologists on the list but I don't have the time.

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Chad Martin's avatar

Man made climate change is a hoax! Just like covid! Do you realize it took at least 6000 gallons of diesel and dozens of child slave laborers to make that electric car your so proud of?

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CMCM's avatar

A true and honest environmentalist would be horrified about the so-called "carbon footprint" of making an EV. And he would be dead set against EVs.

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TB's avatar

And also would be pro-nuclear. It's a form of litmus test, in a way... an "environmentalist" who is anti-nuclear is either ignorant or a grifter.

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Leo's avatar

Many people are ignorant of the problem of disposal of spent nuclear fuel rods. They degrade incredibly slowly and there is no safe place to secure them until they are no longer radioactive.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Of the various petitions on global warming circulated for signatures by scientists, the one by the Petition Project, a group of physicists and physical chemists based in La Jolla, California, was distributed just within the US and 31,487 American scientists have signed this petition, including 9,029 with PhDs. Other European papers have additional thousands of signatures from those skeptical scientists.

http://www.petitionproject.org/signers_by_last_name.php?run=all

Thus ends the lesson for today.

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David A's avatar

Thanks Phil, I responded above as I did not see your comment.

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André Angelantoni's avatar

Thank you for admitting that you made this up: "30,000 PhDs."

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL...you're ridiculous.

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André Angelantoni's avatar

Just like this fake list, I doubt very much it's 30,000 PhD scientists. See my comment above for how they pad these lists. You'll find radiologists, structural engineers, finance people and lots of other padding by the desperate organizers.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Just like this fake list?

Here is the link to all the 1609 signatories listed by each nation.

https://clintel.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/08/WCD-version-081423.pdf

Who's a fake?

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André Angelantoni's avatar

Why don't you actually read the citations you provide before offering them as proof? It would make you look less silly.

If you did, you'll find these ridiculous entries:

• Peter Champness, Radiologist

• Charles Camenzuli, Structural Engineer specializing in Remedial Work, Catcam Group, Sydney

• József Balla, retired teacher and manager of a small business

• Gordon Batt, Director GCB Investments Pty Ltd.

• Eric Daniel, Retired IT Consultant

• Jeremy K. Ellis, Retired Chairman of BHP, now Chairman of the Saltbush Club Australia

• Erl Happ, Managing Director at Happs

There aren't 1600 scientists, not even close. The list is padded with names from anywhere they could get them. And most of them have no experience in climatology.

It's exactly as I said: the list is padded to make it look more impressive than it is.

How else are they lying in that document?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Maybe you should tell us and make an even bigger lair out of yourself. "Experience in climatology"? Really? I would trust the opinion of anyone trained in the scientific method of his field over an opinion of the likes of you.

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Niki Stone's avatar

The great Barrington declaration is the same, it didn't go up in a year from 17k and something just isn't right with Malone or any of them.

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Niki Stone's avatar

Thanks for this link. I certainly have my concerns on the great Barrington declaration - have you looked into that?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Look who's desperate.

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David A's avatar

It is his own confirmation bias that he is reflecting. And he is wrong.

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TriTorch's avatar

Many of these burning man heathens are the ones supporting: masking, vaccines, climate change, war in Ukraine, BLM, lockdowns, the LGBTQ+++ agenda, transitioning and mutilating children, open borders, non-prosecution, releasing pedos from prison, defunding the police, schoolhouse indoctrination, white eradication. Forgive me if I don't shed a tear that this is their fate at their Molech ceremony.

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While they went off to party, do drugs, and openly flaunt lust, Lahaina Hawaii residents were dealing with this:

https://tritorch.substack.com/p/must-see-presenting-12-unfathomable

Quote: "So it's just a coincidence that the police chief was the same man in charge of the Las Vegas shooting [author's note: he is also Lahaina's coroner].

And it's just a huge coincidence that property owned by millionaires and billionaires like Jeff Bezos, Oprah, and the founder of PayPal remained untouched while the land of the natives burned only a few feet away—literally.

And it's just a huge coincidence that the island had the largest system of outdoor sirens in the world, yet they decided not to sound them, or alert anybody in any way.

Annnd it's just a huge coincidence that they closed all of the schools, sent all the children home, and turned off the water as soon as the fires started so that people couldn't put them out.

And it's just a coincidence that, under orders, policemen blockaded the exits, didn't allow anyone to evacuate, and forced them to jump in the water to save their own lives.

And it's just a coincidence that the island is set to be the very first to operate on 100% renewable energy, and to do so they must significantly decrease their C02 emissions.

And it's just a huge coincidence the one month prior to the fires the mayor issued a press release highlighting his commitment to the United Nations 2030 agenda of sustainable development.

And it's just a coincidence that Hawaii is the only state to have submitted a voluntary local review which is a framework and goal-set to achieve sustainable development.

And it's just a huge coincidence that BlackRock and the United States Government are two out of the three largest land owners on the island who have been trying to buy up the land from the natives for the past few decades who refuse to sell, and both of them are part of the renewable energy agenda.

And it's just a huge coincidence that the survivors’ homes that are still standing are now being evicted.

And it's just a coincidence that the fact checkers saying that all of this is a coincidence are owned by BlackRock.

At this point if you believe that all of these are coincidences - you are the crazy one. Not me.

Google is not going to come out and tell you what's going on and even if they did a lot of you wouldn't even believe it unless it was from a government or fact checking website.

But guess what, they're not going to tattle on themselves so you need to think for yourself.

We should be absolutely enraged about these fires. We really need to stand up and do something because [if we don't] things like this are just going to keep [happening]."

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TIM's avatar

Its also no coincidence that Hawaii has very strict gun ownership laws, rendering many residents unarmed because of the hassle. Had it been me pulling up to a road block, my family in tow, my ass on fire, and the cops say turn around and head back into the danger? Guess what........the path would've been cleared for myself and those behind me.

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Gaye's avatar

I’ve seen several survivors interviewed who did exactly that; drove through fields and over sidewalks. Defiance appears to be the only path to freedom these days.

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AJF's avatar

Watched a video where an elderly man on foot asked the cop why he wasn't letting the cars pass. " Just following orders"....the man assumed there was fire up ahead or something...he walked all the way up the road, away from the fire and could see no possible reason why the cars weren't allowed to continue down the road. He was visably shaken while being interviewed....."Just following orders" was no defense during the Nuremberg Trials.

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Gaye's avatar

If it weren’t for citizen journalists in Maui we’d have no idea what has transpired. Some got drone footage before they shut down airspace. A guy named Eric West has been posting interviews on YT from day one and seems legit. Day after: https://youtu.be/7PSYNqZqAVs?si=MprzCTOAo7wFBAyd

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Pamela's avatar

Do you have a Rumble link? This one appears to have been taken down.

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Gaye's avatar

Sorry, I don’t. I’m not surprised it’s gone because the owner of the channel has been under relentless fire in the past week. These people are not archiving their videos to try to protect them.

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Gaye's avatar

Because of his videos, realtor Eric West AND his son have now been fired by Keller Williams. Wow.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Hope they burn in hell!!

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Kids burned to death. Alone!! Alone!!! If we do nothing about this. Shame on all of us!!

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T Diesel's avatar

I donut understand the cops “just following orders”?

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Concerned mom's avatar

At what point did that cop see that he was guilty of cornering his fellow -man into a burning inferno. At what point did he realize he himself was in danger of the fire? He indeed is in danger of hellfire!!!

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

We pay their salaries. They should protect human life. Burn in hell you forkers!!! Kids died!!

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https://open.substack.com/pub/sashalatypova/p/more-on-peculiarities-of-lahaina?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=38a8y

His neighborhood was untouched in the middle of the fire only his garage entry key pad cover burned.

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Gaye's avatar

Looks like Sasha used Eric’s footage on one video. Wow. No drones allowed there now. The other guy says those houses are clad in Hardie board which is considered non-combustible. Odd juxtaposition of the burned to spared objects.

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Mark G.'s avatar

Defiance IS the only path when common sense by political hacks and cops who are too stupid to actually realize the truth get in the way.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Can anyone say…”run them down”!!!

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Hugh Petersen's avatar

I used to live in Hawaii and I can attest to it being the worst 2 A state. I bought a handgun there and the process was absurd.

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Tom's avatar

When you pull up to the roadblock and it's not even enough to have your Papiere in Ordnung, you know that troubled times are ahead.

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A former co worker was stopped by security and hospital assassins when he tried to take his wife home from the kill center. He pulled up his shirt to show them he was packing. They stepped aside, but the damage was already done, and he essentially called in hospice for the inevitable. He was asleep before this. What a way to wake up. Married 55 years.

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Truthseeker's avatar

Unbelievable- The medical kidnapping.

Truth is stranger than fiction today.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

That’s what they all voted for. Not to add injury to this horrible assault. But when do leftist liberals wake up??? Hell No you won’t get our guns. If I’m faced with saving my family and a stoolie cop who is just taking orders (forkers, hope they burn in hell). I know what I’m doing!!

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CMCM's avatar

When do they wake up? That's what I've been wondering. What I see with my 69 year old very liberal environmentalist crazed brother is that he doesn't question very much, and can't seem to divorce himself from his long held identity as a Democrat voter. Anything I send him from a non-leftie source he dismisses immediately because of the source. He see all sorts of conspiracies but attributes all the evil to conservative or R players. He was a Bernie supporter and said he couldn't vote for Hillary, but so many of his views are just wacky. He doesn't admit to who he actually voted for in 2020. He's got TDR bad and seems irrational about him, and would probably choke before he would/could admit to a single good Trump policy, and still sends me links to anti Trump stuff. He got 3 vaxxes, but maybe there has been progress as he doesn't want any more. So that has to mean he has reflected at least a bit. Mainly I don't get into heavy political discussions with him because I value keeping a good relationship with him. I limit myself to dropping info on him when I can and when it's from a source he won't immediately reject.

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PJ's avatar

You are a good brother 👏👏

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Jaci's avatar

And don't you love

Oprah begging for donations after copying Dolly's idea? All evil lying to make us believe they are wonderful ! Many years ago, I attended an Oprah taping. I cannot remember the subject, but it was no interest to me. Needless to say, she held a welcoming line for the audience and when I touched her hand, there was a strange feeling that ran through my body. We really need to pay attention to that God given sixth sense!

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Susan Catherine's avatar

So interesting you say this Jaci. I was on her show (yes, on) in 1999 and felt a similar sensation upon meeting and shaking hands. It wasn't warm. It's something I never said to anyone but since you brought it up, I had to chime in since my experience was similar.

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Lyndsay's avatar

Interesting, what were you in the show for? I was a huge fan of Oprah and watched every day, but now I can see how she is most likely an evil far left elite: and why is she asking for money when she has billions? Oh, just to get affirmations that we will do what she says and donate, just like those who would go buy and read the books she says to. She just want to affirm her power. The funny thing is I heard they , Oprah and the Rock, got only $5k in donations after 24 hours, that may just be a rumor I didn’t follow this myself. They did donate $5 million each but that seems low for someone of her wealth.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Back in 1999 my coworkers and I were interested in attending a taping of her show. I looked at her website to get the details of how to attend and there was a question asked to the general public--something like "Are you unhappy with your life? What changes are you looking to make in the new millenium?" I just started typing, responding to the questions in a sort therapeutic trance kind of way. I think I was trying to figure out myself what I wanted to change in my life because I wasn't happy. A question was asked and I was answering it. A bit naive of me but I didn't realize they were asking the question because of a show. The producer called and said Oprah liked my story so they wanted me on the show. A filming crew came to our house to film and prepare my story. When the actual show day came there were 3 of us on the show and Dr. Phil (his very early days w/Oprah). One lady was berated by her husband, another gal was suicidal and then me. They spent so much time on the first two people that by the time they got to me they told my story as the credits rolled 😂

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SadieJay's avatar

That made me smile for the first time today. Thanks for sharing. I hope you are okay today?? I hope you can look back with a smile?

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Susan Catherine's avatar

I'm VERY happy today. Around that time, I realized my life and attitude are within my power. God works slowly with me but it's been great progress. Thank you for asking. And I cringe when I think back to that show and how I made dissatisfaction with my life public 😂

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SadieJay's avatar

Wonderful...I am so glad to hear that. You are absolutely right...we might not have control of the things happening around us, but we certainly have control of how we react to the situations we are in. And..God, well, when we know He has us, that makes all the difference. We have the peace that passes all understanding. Like today and all the weird news going on...I could lose my shit. But, when I realize that it is within my power to turn all of it off and get outside with God, that is the real power and the real peace. So many pontificate upon the woes of this land and the people, whether real or imagined or propagandized and think they can change their behavior to change minds, people or things out of their control. Yeah, no. In my mind I picture myself and what I call the big pan out...like in a movie when the camera focuses on a person, then pans up and out, passing all things and ends up with the view of the earth from space and we get the idea of how small we actually are in the reality of this globe. Thank God for God!!

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Michael Framson's avatar

Susan Catherine, What you did was years ago in a galaxy far away. You are on a different planet now than what was then. People even vacation here.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Beautiful view! Thank you for sharing it.

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PJ's avatar

I probably saw you back in the day. Even though you didn't get much air time. 😂. I used to be a school teacher, and would love to come home and just watch the taped VCR shows of Oprah and Martha Stewart. Dr. Phil lost me pretty soon out of the gate. I left my teaching position after Columbine, as the bomb threats were coming into my "elite" school daily, and some students even set a bomb off at my school at night. One parent was a lawyer though, and one was a judge, so the school system never let it leak to the media. I got out of there that year, and God blessed me with a way to make a living off of my art. Oprah definitely looks like she has ice in her veins to me now. But that's with all the hindsight. And Martha Stewart doing those Pfizer commercials. 🤢. I'm just glad I have a good life and I'm not afraid to stay as informed as possible. Denial is a spiritual disease. A lot of our fellow Americans are currently quite affected by it. I try to hold them up in prayer. 🙏. I like that you responded openly and earnestly and honestly to the question that Oprah and team posited. It sounds like it was a positive catalyst to help you get in touch with yourself. You're probably glad in hindsight they didn't have time to get to your story. But you are writing your own story every day, and you get to live it. Good for you. 👏👏👏👏

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Not to beat a dead horse, and God must certainly want me to sharpen my humility, but I found a clip from the show. I guess it was 1998 and not 1999. It was Dr. Phil's first episode w/Oprah and there was another lady they had no time to get to. I'm highly humiliated by this but will share it since I'm often reminded to be more humble...ugh. https://youtu.be/IFMQCkeSaP0?si=vpflgCblKWGbL7r_&t=2357

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Lyndsay's avatar

Oh wow, thanks for sharing that, very cool! It’s nothing to be ashamed of at all! I’m sure it actually inspired many.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

You're VERY kind for saying that! It does make me feel better. Thank you.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

So, I guess you're not going back for the "Time Capsule" opening, or did they already have it?

I'm glad you're now happy with your life and God is a part of it! ❤️

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Good question. I never thought about it. Perhaps since the show has ended it's all over.

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Niki Stone's avatar

That's great shadow work. I love those trans like automatic writing sessions. Do you think you have noticed a change?

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

She is the devils minion!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And she's worth $2.5 billion. Giving 10 mil directly to the people who lost everything would be nothing for her. But no, it will be a 'foundation'.

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Doug Young's avatar

From Elizabeth Nickson's Substack: "Oprah and the Rock went on socials to solicit money for Maui this week. One million views over the first 24 hours raised a whole $5,000. Tens of thousands of negative comments greeted them."

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daverkb's avatar

Good! Thanks for reporting!

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LW's avatar

Wow really? That’s awesome...where did you see this please?

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devoalan's avatar

Interesting stuff. And obviously from a person of repute. Quite the wealth of experience.

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Francis's avatar

New to me too, she lists a lot of good news

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LW's avatar

...sorry you just said on ENs Substack (thats that’s a name I never heard)

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Good. They deserve the scorn of the world. Disgusting humans

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Cathrine Silver's avatar

It needs to be "Cabal approved" and that won't happen, she's probably part of the select Committee of 300--or an arm of it! Rumors that they want to make it into a lockdown city--sorry 15 minute city. I understand they did the same thing back in the day to clear the neighborhoods where the casinos wanted land in Atlantic city! Burn them out! 😡

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daverkb's avatar

One always wonders. But mount O evidence tends to lend credence that she is in on it up to her neck. This latest Lahaina Adventure seems to put things like East Palestine, the California fires, and much more over the top.

But wait folks! I am a Theory Conspirator ... or Conspiracy Theorist ... or something!

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RunningLogic's avatar

A pattern recognizer 😬

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T Diesel's avatar

Lather, rinse, and repeat.

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Cathrine Silver's avatar

Total land grabs! I read that they needed water near East Palestine for some new factory-plant-industrial complex. (It's been a while so I can't recall the details) Seems all part of the "Grand Plan"! So, I guess we're in the same club!

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daverkb's avatar

The parallels to the Great Depression are uncanny. Wayne Jett's Fruits of Graft tells how the depression was deliberately prolonged and some of the why. And as usual, it was all about money and the very few. This time the Repatriation of Wealth into the hands of the tiny top tier is much more sweeping. And at least in the Great Depression times 'they' weren't shooting for total enslavement nor were they committing flagrant acts of murder. sending people back into the fires of self-destruction.

I don't know anymore than anyone else how this is all going to end. But I know it is not only the poor Ukrainians who are being slaughtered for the lust for money and power. It is also you and me. And all across the Western World. There's no denying it now. The patterns are now too visible and well established.

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Politico Phil's avatar

So true. I told my sons as soon as the lock downs started that this was the biggest heist of wealth transferring the wealth of the middle class to the top 1% in world history.

I hope David Martin is right that the cabal are now the walking dead zombies.

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daverkb's avatar

Phil! We shall see! We shall see!

One of the biggest factors at work is that the rest of the world is no longer going along to get along. And have they gone a bridge too far with Lahaina. The whole world now sees that poor people's house burn, but not billionaire's house. For some mysterious reason.

And the more they do things, the more the dress blows up and people see things much more clearly. And remember Beria Syndrome. There is even a point were rich people feel threatened by the planned anarchy.

Yours Truly,

Que Sera Sera !!!

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Politico Phil's avatar

All I can say is that Goodness for Trump. Except for him, the cabal has a lock on the Uniparty and control both the Dems and the RINOs. Without Trump, we would have no choice at all. He is the only one with an independent power base.

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Sheri veley's avatar

Sorry but not many people are awake enough to see what happened in Lahaina. It's like no one cares in my part of the world. No one ever mentions it. Crazy

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Cathrine Silver's avatar

I would only add something a bit more esoteric . . . that you may or may not resonate with. That is, that we, humanity are currently in a shift of consciousness. This is the first time that this has happened since we have existed on the planet. (It was predicted by the Mayans and other accents cultures. Their calendars measured energy, not doom and gloom.) As our consciousness increases we are seeing all that has been hidden for eons. It is like cleaning out a filthy, dirty, nasty basement. All the stuff we are finding is really hard to look at and see. The courageous are stepping forward and the LIGHT is beginning to have its effect. (Actually, the Light became more powerful in 2012 and the black hats felt it.) We are winning. It is the compassion of you and others that are shifting this planet. As we move out the old energy, a new paradigm emerges. Unfortunately it is sometimes a slower process than we like to admit or see, and often feels like one step forward and two steps back. We have much help. The C & C'ers can send Light, Love and Prayers to the darkest places on the Earth, and it will stay there forever. That's the magic of multidimensional LIGHT. 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

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daverkb's avatar

I am decidedly not 'New Age-y' ... and right now my vote is that the searing light of equal justice before the law be administer. That would be real law, God's law. And that the Civil Magistrate be a Book of Romans-style Terror to Evil Doers. This alone would bring huge showers of real light into our lives. It also would be the shedding of an oppressive weight. As a side car, I say this as one who know's from personal experience that our soul leaves the body upon death, and occasionally during so called 'near death' or temporarily upon severe trauma to the body. I am also aware of the electromagnetic organization of the body including centers of energy. This said, I would not out of hand argue against a shifting of consciousness, but perhaps the nature of the shift and the causative forces at work.

I am more a Patrick Henry sort of man ... and I am at home with the theology of the Reformation Church and its Confessions of Faith. This is a sort of anomaly these days. And had the American people had remained faithful to the Reformation era Confessions of Faith, then there is no way the elites could get away with high crimes and treason as they presently do.

America's trouble ... and that of the Western World ... is the direct result of a profound sickness of the soul.

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SadieJay's avatar

I happen to be reading a book about the great depression. It is fiction and it is opening my eyes even more. I seem to read a book and then the parallels emerge in real life. I finished a book called The Dead Hand in Jan of 2020, and voila! Covid. The list can go one with 3 or 4 books and the last 3.5 years. I agree..man had his chance to return to God and the USA has rejected Him. Now we suffer. As the general poor populace of the 1930's saw FDR as their savior, I am afraid that the next person who steps up with a viable and very great sounding 'solution' to the ills of the world will be the antichrist.

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Hi daverkb,

I am not here to argue beliefs. I am simply stating that we are shifting as a group of humanity. I also said, if it resonates--fine. If it doesn't that's fine too. What is more important is that we stand in the unity of Love and compassion. I believe your beliefs value this? We also must have peace within ourselves rather than worry and fear of the future. It is the division that separates--and that's a win for the dark. We must stand strong together. Send Prayers to the world! Blessings to you and your family!

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Verve's avatar

AND YOU GET A CAR!... AND YOU GET A CAR! ...AND YOU GET A CAR!...AND YOU GET A CAR! One of the Lahaina residents pointed out that O was having her minions give out BLANKETS and PILLOWS to the surviving residents who didn't follow the police orders to get back in their cars and burn to death. She could have housed every last one of those surviving Hawaiians in any one of her multiple homes and outbuildings on the hundreds of acres of land that suspiciously didn't burn down.

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AngelaK's avatar

I understand from a friend who had hotel reservations there (which she of ourse cancelled)that the hotels are.

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Verve's avatar

A surviving resident told me they only get 3 weeks of lodging and then they have to leave. In the meantime they are being harassed by people bullying them to sell their land to them, and There's a concerted effort to prevent supply boats with food to get to them. There are still hundreds of children missing and there's no effort to put up the names of the missing children in any kind of database or PR campaign, and the schools have a complete roster of names of the children and are doing nothing. This friend said she is staying at another resident's home that didn't burn down. She lost everything. She knows it was a domestic attack to get all the land. They want them gone off the island altogether (whoever "they" is)

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AngelaK's avatar

Thats too bad and too sad for words. They cant find hotels to lodge them permanently like the NYC mayor is doing for illegal immigrants?

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Roger Beal's avatar

The only way Mayor Adams and his ilk are "finding hotels" is by evicting legitimate American citizens who were lodged there under Section 8 regulations. We've reached a point where foreign economic migrants are favored over domestic economic refugees.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Meanwhile the Fema employees are put up in $1000 a night hotels.

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Verve's avatar

That's absolutely SICK.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Excellent point, AngelaK

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Cruise ships and ferry them to and fro daily.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s horrible 😞😡

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

She is an evil fraud!! A disgusting human

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T Diesel's avatar

Okra could buy each one of them “A New Car!”.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

Okra. I love it. I love name-calling. That’s better than scum!! Love it!

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Roger Beal's avatar

But but but she needs the tax write-off!

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

She is scum!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

That was God's warning. I have never understood her appeal to old white women of which i am one. Now Candace Owen speaks to me. And that one white dyke who was so popular. Why? They are the best entertainment? This is our idol!

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AngelaK's avatar

They are not my idol. 🤷

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AngelaK's avatar

Wow!! Thats crazy..but I believe you. When you are a faithful discerning Christian God often reveals evil. I have had such an experience and it is sobering. In my case, it was someone I knew. I literally saw their hate revealed.

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Freebird's avatar

Re: Oprah…I got that vibe just from watching her on TV once. 😂😂

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Sharing and Caring's avatar

That Creature “O” is nothing but a triple W. Wicked Witch Whore!

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CH's avatar

I learned a long, long time ago to trust my sixth sense.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

She is evil. Disgusting her asking for donations. When do we wake up??

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Sheri veley's avatar

She is an actress. All she does is puts on a show. And gets paid handsomely for it. She danced with the devil for all her fame and money. I would never give her a second thought if I ever saw her in person and I certainly would never watch her on any type of media.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Oprah, et al, will soon have Maui all to themselves. They will have to move people onto the island to cook, clean, garden, etc to take care of them in their personal paradise. If I were an overlord, I would be very concerned the ‘help’ could take over.

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PJ's avatar

That's why the governor of Hawaii already said he wants to take that land and turn it into workforce housing 🤢

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LW's avatar

Thank you for this reminder So we can share with those who feel “confused”. Trust your sixth sense!

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It's quite obvious you are not a conspiracy theorist, you are a coincidence theorist. And coincidently, I agree 100%!

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Gaye's avatar

I think it’s also called pattern recognition.

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RunningLogic's avatar

We should correct people when they say conspiracy theories and call it pattern recognition.

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Gaye's avatar

Somebody needs to teach a class in it. Oh wait. I think it’s called kindergarten! 😂

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Rhonda Roland's avatar

Not anymore, now they’re trying to un-teach gender recognition no time for pattern recognition!

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Gaye's avatar

Sadly, it’s true!

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Copernicus's avatar

Pattern recognition. I like that. And of course it's a key survival instinct and skill.

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Michele's avatar

Excellent! Keeping that for my friends who call me a CT! TY!

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AngelaK's avatar

Lol! You conspiracy theorist! Ofcourse these are all coincidences! MSM wouldn't lie to me! They are the truth! I can trust them!! You must be a Trumper and you watch too much Fox News. 😉😉 ..say the brain washed, head in the sand, left leaning sheeple when confronted with facts.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Fox News is RINO Central

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AngelaK's avatar

Not to the social media trolls. They love to say what I wrote.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I totally agree, I still chortle out loud when some dolt calls Fox conservative

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. They still have an occasional conservative commenter or interviewee but mostly aren’t much different from the other legacy media sources.

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Niki Stone's avatar

I love this. I'm also quite fond of conspiracy analyst too.

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Jo Highet's avatar

They closed off airspace immediately - no drones to even view the damage. This was followed by armed guards and fencing to keep people (the victims!!) out. They had that fencing, supplies, guards ready almost immediately - you can’t just decide to erect something on a whim and snap your fingers to produce allll the supplies necessary to do so. Heck, my neighbor built a small deck and it took ridiculous coordination just to have the wood delivered by truck.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

When they can't be transparent, you know it's a scam. Like covid, if it was a real deal, they'd share everything about. But not even the vaxines we pay billions for are totally locked down as to their contents.

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Verve's avatar

Brandon is on camera saying that disaster relief government officials were "on the ground weeks ago".. he said it twice... weeks ago...

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Roger Beal's avatar

This, from the same 1000 watt bulb who announced in 2016 that his party had "the best voter fraud system" deployed across America.

Sometimes dementia, like whisky, blurts out truth.

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

If his lips are moving, he is lying

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup, he lies like he breathes and always has!! 😡

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Verve's avatar

like before the event even happened.

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LW's avatar

!!!!!!! Did you see this on a Fox clip or elsewhere? (Lost my last bit of trust for Fox over Tucker)

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AngelaK's avatar

He is a bumbling idiot anyway.

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Starsky's avatar

Enough drone footage got out to show the blue recycling bins that were unmelted next to destroyed homes and buildings. People started asking questions and suddenly airspace was closed and a big black fence went up.

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Angela's avatar

And get it all delivered to an island? I'm guessing the local home depot didn't have all that was needed. The media is falling down on the job again, this is not what they're telling us.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

The media is complicit.

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Angela's avatar

Agreed

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

AGAIN?! When’s the last time the media did anything useful?

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CathyRN's avatar

Sounds as planned as J6

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Roger Beal's avatar

Or 9/11.

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Patti Clark's avatar

Someone needs to FOIA when the big black fences were ordered. Probably before the fire started.

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MayBella82's avatar

I have been saying the exact thing. It was very well planned.

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rolandttg's avatar

remember the plastic shields at all checkout registers at the stores allowed to stay open. Same thing? Where did they come from, and all at once?

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Jo Highet

Plus when had the government been that efficient?

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Jo Highet's avatar

Touché

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RunningLogic's avatar

But what can we do? How do we fight this? Any initiatives or plans out there?

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TriTorch's avatar

We've got to take back control of the government.

"Unless the people, through unified action, arise and take charge of their government, they will find that their government has taken charge of them. Independence and liberty will be gone, and the general public will find itself in a condition of servitude to an aggregation of organized and selfish interest." —Calvin Coolidge

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

Take back the government, that was probably easier back then.... Like way back then. Now we gotta rely on votes.

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TriTorch's avatar

Nah voting isn't going to cut it, we have to get directly involved. Give this a read if you have a few minutes to spare: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/apathy-is-the-fire-in-which-we-burn

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Copernicus's avatar

Didn't read your post, but yes, apathy is killing us.

Run for precinct committeeman. They are the ones who elect county party chairs. County chairs appoint county party election board members. Election board members can return to hand counted paper ballots.

Run for city or county commissioner or council - they write the checks to pay for the voting machines. Run for county clerk or support a We The People person to do so - clerks can often return to hand counting paper ballots and have huge role in the voter roll maintenance.

And definitely absolutely read this recent UNANIMOUS resolution passed by the RNC and then SEND IT to every single one of your Republican elected and appointed officials: city/county commissioners and council members, county clerks, state reps, your Secretary of State, your county GOP chair. Ask them what they are going to do in response. If they stand against this and do not move to eliminate vote centers, drop boxes, and machine voting, they are now standing against the Republican National Convention. https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Resolution-Urging-a-Return-to-Excellence-in-American-Voting-and-Elections.pdf

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J Kaz's avatar

Directly invoked ie running for office or helping someone run still requires votes on an electronic machine....

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TriTorch's avatar

Those electronic machines were installed by replaceable bureaucrats and politicians. When the people are in charge, we will go back to hand ballots and counters with public custodians.

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Copernicus's avatar

See the resolution below:

Run for precinct committeeman. They are the ones who elect county party chairs. County chairs appoint county party election board members. Election board members can return to hand counted paper ballots.

Run for city or county commissioner or council - they write the checks to pay for the voting machines. Run for county clerk or support a We The People person to do so - clerks can often return to hand counting paper ballots and have huge role in the voter roll maintenance.

And definitely absolutely read this recent UNANIMOUS resolution passed by the RNC and then SEND IT to every single one of your Republican elected and appointed officials: city/county commissioners and council members, county clerks, state reps, your Secretary of State, your county GOP chair. Ask them what they are going to do in response. If they stand against this and do not move to eliminate vote centers, drop boxes, and machine voting, they are now standing against the Republican National Convention. https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Resolution-Urging-a-Return-to-Excellence-in-American-Voting-and-Elections.pdf

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SusanMc's avatar

Excellent

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Run for precinct committeeman. They are the ones who elect county party chairs. County chairs appoint county party election board members. Election board members can return to hand counted paper ballots.

Run for city or county commissioner or council - they write the checks to pay for the voting machines. Run for county clerk or support a We The People person to do so - clerks can often return to hand counting paper ballots and have huge role in the voter roll maintenance.

And definitely absolutely read this recent UNANIMOUS resolution passed by the RNC and then SEND IT to every single one of your Republican elected and appointed officials: city/county commissioners and council members, county clerks, state reps, your Secretary of State, your county GOP chair. Ask them what they are going to do in response. If they stand against this and do not move to eliminate vote centers, drop boxes, and machine voting, they are now standing against the Republican National Convention. https://prod-static.gop.com/media/Resolution-Urging-a-Return-to-Excellence-in-American-Voting-and-Elections.pdf

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RunningLogic's avatar

Great ideas!!

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Copernicus's avatar

Please do act on the RNC resolution. All 50 states’ election integrity groups are mobilizing to apply pressure on these elected officials. We are the ones we’ve been waiting for.

If not you, then who?

If not now, then when?

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daverkb's avatar

The American Revolution was always top down. It was the Colonial American Elite of the day that organized and ran the operation. This is a very underappreciated fact. Also, underappreciated is that eighty percent roughly of the settlers were products of the Protestant Reformation ... who sought refuge from tyranny.

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Niki Stone's avatar

I'm still trying to find out who is protesting at the UN meeting on the 18th Sept. This should be massive.

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rolandttg's avatar

Do what I have been doing for the past 18 years. Spread the word. Try and educate as many people as you can. Evil , like vampires, cannot live in daylight. They need to be exposed, and then people will react. Look at what is happening in super blue Hawaii. Think anyone there still believes Lahaina was a wildfire? think they are just going to continue to badee badee through their lives as if nothin had happened.

The other thing we must all do is Resist. Do . Not. Comply. To any of their illegal mandates. And for God's sake, don't EVER use a CBDC if /when they roll then out.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’ve been trying to. But it’s clear more needs to be done.

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Credenda's avatar

Join Col. MacGregor’s new organization. Ourcountryourchoice.com

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Macgregor the senile pro Russian?

Dude can't even get tanks and stuff right.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Weird how the blue covered structures didn't have fires?

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TriTorch's avatar

Give this a watch, you may have seen it already Based:

Maui Fires: The Color Blue Has a Frequency of 6.66 - .Gov Buildings Are Now Being Fitted With It https://bitchute.com/video/oOnsDFeRy4Z2 [4.37mins]

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rolandttg's avatar

Sorry, should have read the next post. You beat me to it. Good for you.

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daverkb's avatar

Interesting ... and thanks!

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Ok and the video after this is a complete Freakout!! 😭 Who can be saved!!

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rolandttg's avatar

They talked about that yesterday too on the podcast we listened to. It's the frequency of blue that caused the microwave DEW's to not affect it. I forget what the number is, somewhere in the 600's I believe. Blue is the color of the cabal. IF you notice, metal is burned and melted by it, but not wood. Even the trees that were killed did not burn. Showed a perfectly intact wooden post next to a car with melted rims and windshields. I

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none none's avatar

Think about this. This is just my opinion, but the sky has blue tones, and the water also. I think that's why they had to program their DEW not to attack blue. Programmed by AI, of course...

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Banjocat's avatar

That is a very interesting thought... Sooo, I had a "dream" about 7-8 years ago. I was running in a field along with many others. It was unclear to me what the threat was but my thought was that I needed to warn my family to prepare for "something". As I had this thought I looked up into the sky and there was a rolling fire consuming the atmosphere (it was not an atomic blast). A voice that was not my own responded and said "It is too late" and I woke up shaken. After I read your comment it occurred to me that maybe these bastards will accidentally set the sky on fire? Technology will eventually be our undoing... as, I am certain, has happened many times in humanities past.

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Niki Stone's avatar

On the drone footage I saw, none had blue roofs. This is a psyops, to put you off the fact that most of the buildings that didn't burn are owned by the state if they werent one of the partners

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LMWC's avatar

Great roundup. Most people will never know any of this because their news is framed by the legacy media they see on tv. They will say nothing only show the deaths and the charred remains. What a travesty our government is.

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Sherry 1's avatar

...and it’s just a coincidence that massive arsonist lit fires burned across Canada, Greece, Spain and other parts of Europe at the same time. In places that people travel to for their natural beauty and resort amenities. Places that, once burned and people finding they are unable to be re-insured, can be bought up with tax payer pension and Union fund money managed by Blackrock, Vanguard and their ilk. One way to fight is to STOP LETTING BLACKROCK manage your Union and Pension funds. Dry up their funding. Trudeau spent 2 hours in Kelowna (massive fire) and while there, he mentioned “insurance” - what an ugly coincidence.

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TriTorch's avatar

All of SE Quebec Erupted Into Wildfires ALL AT ONCE June 2nd, 2023: https://bitchute.com/video/d07sl4jc6a3u [40seconds]

We need to call in these guys:

The Sabatini Family Protection Agency Specializes in Retaliatory Coincidences Call Today - HILARIOUS: https://bitchute.com/video/MV966py8sovs [1.29mins]

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Michele's avatar

Sabatini one is hilarious, THANK-YOU!

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Fla Mom's avatar

TriTorch, I just found out about this group and thought the name interesting, given their 'smart everything' agenda:

US Ignite - Accelerating Smart Communities and Research Testbeds

https://www.us-ignite.org/

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TriTorch's avatar

That name, for a group that specializes in all-seeing smart prison cities, is very telling... Wow. Before they can 6uild 6ack to hell on earth they must first "ignite" the existing infrastructure.

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Blair's avatar

And they shut off access to water during one of the most deadly fires in US history.

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none none's avatar

The police that tried to turn people back and refuse them an exit should be tried for murder. And FEMA needs to reclassified as a terrorist organisation.

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randall stoehr's avatar

Is this the Moment when Albert Einstein's theories of relativity,

becomes Einstein's theory of factuality's? Would folks do really dumb things?

Dirty deeds....done dirt cheap.

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Concerned mom's avatar

"WOE to those who join house to house, who add field to field, till there is no place..." Isa. 5:8a. Doom to you who buy up all the houses and grab all the land for yourselves - Evicting the old owners, posting no trespassing signs, Taking over the country, ….

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Watched. a podcast yesterday about Lahaina. Said there are many DUMBS in Hawaii, including Lahaina, and that most of these children probably didn't burn. They were spirited away in the DUMBS. Fulford 's post today exposed a number of Russian "spies " caught in Poland who turned out to be Ukrianians advertising children for sale. Provided evidence. Sick.

And WHY are any decent human beings still supporting Amazon? STOP being lazy and cheap. We can shut them down, if we stop being hypocrites and supporting the people who are literally trying to kill us all.

JUST SAY NO

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JSR's avatar

I despise amazon

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Robin Esau's avatar

This lady was awesome taking leadership to task....https://twitter.com/TruthHawkEYE/status/1698133517958275469

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Vicki's avatar

Nailed it!!!!!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I know someone who went to this thing about 5 years ago. He is every single thing you described! After coming back he described what went on and it’s shameful and disgusting. Orgies, gay/lesbian etc, nudity, drugs and satanic rituals. Nothing about this is good. And yet it’s been made famous and glamorous by the media…big surprise!

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Roger Beal's avatar

It may be helpful in the near future: Any event where the other team confines itself in a remote but well-publicized location makes, ah, corrective actions easier to take.

Ask the brightly-dressed British soldiers who marched prominently in straight lines across the American countryside during the late 18th century.

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LW's avatar

Oh....gross. Good to know.

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Vicki's avatar

Molech Ceremony! GOOD one!!!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Pretty much same reaction from me.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

And I'm totally triggered and disturbed by tattoos, so these leftard hipsters could not be more annoying. Hah!

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Never had an interest in tattoos, just don't get it. They never seem to age well, my grandfather had one that when he died at 89, you had absolutely no idea what it was supposed to be. I wouldn't say I am triggered, lol, but I just don't get it. :)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same. Also it is always interesting how they are used as an identifier for people when they are looking for someone. Way to make yourself an easily found target.

I also think some years hence, we’ll start hearing how having all that ink on your skin is actually toxic and causes all kinds of cancer or whatever. I wouldn’t be at all surprised by that.

Hey people can do what they want and I have many friends who have gotten tattoos. I would never tell them I think they’re ugly but I also don’t gush about them. I don’t find them attractive or appealing at all. It just seems like a lot of people get them to be trendy nowadays. That’s even less my thing 🤷‍♀️

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Freebird's avatar

One of my friends got one on her arm from the shoulder down after her husband died (from the vax). It’s a Bible verse. It kills me when people virtue signal with a tattoo. She’s 74, acting like 17. 🙄

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Jeff C's avatar

My doltish but well-meaning forty-something sister got a tattoo on her arm reminding her of the date she made some life-changing decision, something like 03122006. She thought is was great until someone pointed out it looked just like the tattoos the Germans used to mark and track concentration camp victims. Had to have it removed by laser.

Never understood the compulsion to mutilate one's body like this, but there's a lot I don't get about human nature.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same here (re: your last paragraph).

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Been reading through Pentateuch , found to my surprise probably Leviticus or Numbers has a "don't print on your body" law. Reading that, I realized why I had always found tatts distasteful.

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AngelaK's avatar

That is why it is not allowed in Judaism.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

As I finally read these books, each in its entirety, not just piecemeal, I am repeatedly struck by (and grateful for) the love shown by His pronouncements.

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Freebird's avatar

Yes, it's in Leviticus., I can’t remember chapter and verse, but it’s there.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Lev. 19:28 "nor print any marks upon you"

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Freebird's avatar

Great! Thanks for looking it up!

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AngelaK's avatar

I find them as unappealing as seeing someone small pocked or with leprosy, or scarred (not that it is their fault) or even one who is imbedded with dirt , and if they are, I would understand. We have all the means today to have beautiful clear skin, so I dont get it. Tattoos, imo, are ugly and I cant even see what they are supposed to be anyway.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Right there with you! I tend to run from trends!

As for cancer, my husband is battling a nasty one and we recently returned from 6 weeks of intensive (and very expensive treatment :( ) where the nurses were discussing that there is research to indicate a connection with tattoos(the ink, etc.) and increased cancers. I haven't personally looked into it, but I, too, would not be surprised.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m very sorry to hear about your husband’s cancer. Praying for healing 🙏

I think people assume because tattoos have been around for a while and because they’re done in more controlled and sterile environments, they’re safe. But it used to be only in pretty marginalized populations whose behavior could otherwise be considered risky, and who might have gotten the tattoos in less than sanitary conditions. So if the tattoo ink caused or was associated with any disease, it might have been too small a population or too difficult to track, or simply dismissed as being related to their risky lifestyle rather than being connected specifically with the tattoos.

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Michele's avatar

True. And also--like so many things nowdays--HOW they formulate the ink could have gotten progressively more toxic. Like certain packaged foods, that have gone form having 4 ingredients to twelve, half of which you can't pronounce.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Thank you. I agree about behavior etc. We have been numbed as a society to risky behaviors. In my opinion, the Holy Bible, the Lord, gives us guidance about 'cutting' ourselves..... Leviticus 19:28: Ye shall not make any cuttings in your flesh for the dead, nor print any marks upon you: I am the Lord.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Heavy metals in some inks, esp red, I understand. You get what you(didn't) pay for.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I understand that we are set free from the law by the blood of Jesus. That freedom does not mean that the things the law prohibited are now good for us. For example pork meat carrie’s it’s toxins in the meat, because of the amount of fat found throughout the animal. With modern cooking methods we can make the meat safe to eat, however it’s still not a good idea to eat a lot of it. The same thing can be said about other food laws found in the old testament. God gives law to keep us safe and while I know that tattoos aren’t a sin, they are historically slave/ prisoner markings and in the Law we are commanded not to mark out bodies with them. There is a large body of research that the colored tattoo inks are terrible for us, just like FDA approved food dyes are terrible for us. It’s inconvenient to acknowledge that when it’s trendy to have tats. I have a some interesting links on my laptop that I can share later if there’s any interest.

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Roger Beal's avatar

If you get an opportunity, speak to one of these tattoo'd folks: Your mom, your dad, and God got together to create you in beauty. Why must you cover it with graffitti?

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

As in, perhaps, my body is already a temple of God?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh I really don’t want to go there. What’s done is done and it isn’t really my business. I wouldn’t want anyone to comment on my makeup (yes I know it’s temporary and easily removed but it’s still appearance related and some would say I’m covering my natural self also). I think they have a right to do it if they want. I just wish people would think more about the potential pros and cons before they follow trends like those. But I don’t think people are receptive to strangers telling them they shouldn’t have tattoos or anything like that. I do think this trend will eventually fizzle out on its own.

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Freebird's avatar

I agree RL, I don’t say anything, what would be the point? But seeing one leaves me with a diminished respect for the person. It seems to me a pathetic gesture that people have to imprint some message or other on their body. Those of us who don’t get it, really just don’t get it, and never will. Another thing that’s especially irksome is seeing someone who is obviously poor with tats all over their body. A few years ago I heard that the average cost of one is $300, so that tells you that it’s a high priority to these people. Why? Is it the same mentality that makes people have cosmetic surgery? IDK…neither makes any sense to me.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah that’s pretty much how I feel too.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

The nature of trends. Gotta get out of the way for the next one.

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Ditto. Can’t imagine what some of these people are going to look like at my age. 81. Should they live so long

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

What will you look like at age 81? Do you stay the same?

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Robin Esau's avatar

Same here. And the ones I really don't get are the ones the person who has them never see....on their back, etc.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

It is a puzzle! I had a younger friend that I thought didn't have any when we had a conversation about tattoos, and I mentioned that she didn't have any either. She responded, 'You just can't see them!' LOL

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Robin Esau's avatar

Yeah, like someone I knew who put her husband's name on her breast as her token of undying love/only for you, baby. They divorced....awkward.

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LS Woodruff's avatar

Sadly, I think that has played out repeatedly!

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SadieJay's avatar

My daughter-in-law's twin sister got a huge tat down her back that said GAURDIAN. She asked my son and her sister to look at it and asked how to spell guardian. They answered with GUARDIAN. This is what happens when braindead inks braindead as a braindead looks on.

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korigon's avatar

Omg. How stupid. I remember being at my 20 year high-school and thinking how terrible some of these looked even on 38 year Olds. I can't imagine having something spelled wrong.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Tramp stamps.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Because they are personal and not public.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

I agree! Also, I think lots of tattoos on women is very unattractive -especially when they wear dresses. They look ridiculous. I’ve never seen tattoos that enhanced the femininity of a woman.

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Judith G's avatar

The worst is when a woman gets married in a strapless white wedding gown, and exposes all the ugly prison-type tats on shoulders, back, arms or wherever… when they should actually wear a black turtleneck long sleeve shirt to hide it all. Ugh.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

It depends. It can look good but improperly done can look tasteless.

A bunch of tatts on a whale looks disgusting.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Nothing wrong with tattoos.

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Roger Beal's avatar

There's a difference between "wrong" and "stupid, ugly and useless".

Mom, Dad and God created each of us in beauty. Why cover that beauty with graffitti (or, for that matter, lard?)

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

And yet we age, have gray hair, wear glasses, and put makeup on.

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TIM's avatar

I was hoping we'd see a DEW (Direct Energy Weapon) test.

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none none's avatar

We just did, in Hawaaii.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Yeah, false.

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randall stoehr's avatar

The "Pursuits of Pleasures" run extremely strong with the folks of such a Festival of Bizarre isolationists. The Peruvians have the Ayahuasca juice at 10,000 ft elev for head trips.

Much closer to the Gods so they say.

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WP William's avatar

A few are anti-establishment purists, CoVid Deniers, never masked, never trusting in elections or corporations, who see the Authoritarian Rising NWO for what it is and participate in the brief orgy of non-constraints out of a desire to escape and unshackle themselves in a manner from the virtual prison system of modern society and in a West-World or mega Renaissance Festival type setting of escapism. We square-type Freedom advocates don't have such an outlet unless we convince them to come into a mega church with stage lighting/smoke and rocking out for Jesus and getting high on the Holy Ghost. It is macabrely Paganistic but in a way gives a middle finger at the Secretive, Occultic Elites in their Posh Bohemian Grove type settings indulging in lustful pursuits and plotting our common demise. Competing factions of heathens and satanists and globalist-criminal family syndicates vying for turf and power and attention has long been at play and These Fools will never find some means of unifying nor do they wish to. (Unless the man of lawlessness/son of perdition does so through magnetic persuasion and a series of Night of Long Knives operations).

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Roger Beal's avatar

Sentences as long as those scribed by the apostle Paul. Wow ....

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WP William's avatar

proper punctuation stops the mojo; let't flow edit later (or not). a thorny problem at times

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Raphael's avatar

Burning man, pfft.

Last week a Russian General now a Parliamentarian said about the southern front "They are all clustered together why don't we nuke them"

Came to mind.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Why would Russia nuke Ukraine when they are allegedly winning ?

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Befferz's avatar

I had no idea it was a literal burning of a human effigy. Old Testament anyone? Smh..

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Niki Stone's avatar

This is not true. Most of the people who attend events like this are on a spiritual path which is completely libertarian in nature politically. They are the type of people who don't vote nor to they watch the news. They are not activist, bar a few fundraisers for their birthday. They share the message of accession, which is doing personal development work to release shame, judgment, and the 7 deadly sins. Many consider themself to be what the mainstream media calls indigo children. They have a profound ability to read and feel frequencies Im the biomagnetic field. They lean on concepts such as those found in quantum physics. Most have the same practices as religious people, but they use different words, such as the creator or source energy instead of God. Mediation instead of prayer.

They believe I'm concepts such as raising your heart coherency and healing others and the planet by having good intentions, doing good deeds for others without expecting anything in return. This is the group that created the pay it forward movement.

Any form of extremist behavior is not accepted in these communities - it's not just burning man. They have other groups like morning gloryville that has 6am sober dance raves, often in skyscrapers or other cool spots.

They dress very eccentric but only a small percentage are actually LGBT. Many are corporate professionals who are burning inside at forced conformity.

The burning man is a symbol of letting go of the 5 day work week type brainwashing and being a slave to the puppet master. It's a rebirth of the soul, like becoming a born again Christian.

Sure some go for the music/drugs and sleepwalk through the journey.

Most of these people are working on a path towards enlightenment where their emotions are grounded and they can make conscious decisions for the good of the collective.

Many will be doing what is called starseeds or light work which is directly attacking the dark in the world.

The MSM has done many hit pieces on this community, just as the church has done as they want to create divide and say that people who work with drums for frequency healing or crystals like our ancestors are evil, to prevent more people going on this journey.

Also people like me, who are considered light warriors in this community, so I led the lighworkers and fight against higher frequencies, will come onto groups like this and not be involved in the info war because it's very difficult for people like us to interact with people who are not on the unity 5D frequency.

We see people in this group as in the 4D frequency who struggle to mix with those in 3D, something you might relate to. So you can't stand people who can't see COVID and all the lies. This is a frequency balance. For me, people who create divide at all with false judgements, challenge my frequency. However I have pushed through this with a lot of effort this year, to make sure I can help with the next wave of energy and guide people into what we call the New Earth.

Or another way that may help you:

The people who go to burning man, or spiritual events follow Eckhart Tolle.

https://www.amazon.com/New-Earth-Awakening-Purpose-Selection/dp/0452289963?ref=d6k_applink_bb_dls&dplnkId=bff669d4-e1a8-430f-b716-34b110ec5ff6

The burning man is the ego within which is destroying society.

It's a lot of yoga teachers, holistic health enthusiast, like reiki healers, food foresters amd homestead type people who are freedom fighters

We believe in a relationship with the creator not organized rules as seen in religion. I small number of this community find this path after suffering religious abuse, but most come to it when they realize the corruption in the church.

I literally have panic attacks when I see the cross, that's how much I can see the frequency of evil. I was really lucky to find this group of spiritual not religious people as they truly are doing wonderful things for the world.

It is a shame people have not woken up to the alternatives out there in fear of what it represents. The healing communities like this offers people and the ability to step outside big pharma is what the dark fears the most.

Only 20% of people in the church work for the light and 80% work for the dark. In the spiritual community 80% work for the light, and 20% work for the dark. So their is dark everywhere. Personally, I will accept prayer request from very few people, as I don't know what their intention in their energy field is. Someone virtual signaling could give negative energy for example. This is another topic. But all words are spells.

Another correction. It's not pagan. It's Gnosis. Meaning to take the truth from all. So you will notice erkhart using passages from all text, if you have read any of his writing.

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Ned B.'s avatar

Thank you for this clarifying depiction.

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Yal NA's avatar

Its similar to the secretive celebration in the redwood forest where they also burn some statue of a man or a child. Only younger participants, open to public and a lot more artsy. But the burning of a statue of a man is quite similar.

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FourWinds's avatar

Well, they built their own "city" out there where they can practice their "beliefs". If they are there, they are not here, and that's ok with me. Kinda funny rain came in, wasn't it? Thought we were all going to burn to death because of "climate change". Huh. I guess Mother Nature has a good sense of humor.

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N Springer's avatar

It’s been cooler and wetter in Vegas than in my part of Texas. I’m not so sure “Mother Nature” is involved.

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Sherry 1's avatar

🎯🎯🎯🎯🎯

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randall stoehr's avatar

LSD is powerful mind alliterating drug. Along with bad shroomz.

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Gina Borggrebe's avatar

If that’s true…I hope they stay stuck in the mud. We don’t need them destroying humanity. Elites suck!

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Mark G.'s avatar

Personally, I got a huge laugh out of these people. To think, they can’t handle a little mud, what a joke theee people really are.

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Donna in MO's avatar

I can't believe you skipped this story! C&C multiplier success!! https://www.theepochtimes.com/us/florida-doctor-reinstated-after-losing-board-certification-for-criticizing-covid-19-vaccines-5480957 (In case it's paywalled):

A Florida physician known for being outspoken about COVID-related topics has regained his board certification that was stripped because he publicly criticized COVID vaccines.

Now, Dr. John Littell is moving forward from the experience with plans to help future physicians defend themselves when disciplined for voicing viewpoints that are not in the majority, he told The Epoch Times.

The month after Dr. Littell spoke in Sarasota, the board sent a letter saying he'd been de-certified for “spreading false, inaccurate, and misleading materials about COVID-19, COVID-19 vaccination, and treatment and mitigation of the virus,"

After receiving the troubling letter, Dr. Littell sought the help of attorney Jeff Childers, a business attorney in Gainesville, Florida. Since the COVID-19 lockdowns began, Mr. Childers has become active in lawsuits around the country related to medical freedom. He authors a daily blog called Coffee and Covid, which started by chronicling COVID-19 issues and now tracks other social and political issues, as well.

Mr. Childers crafted a 64-page appeal to the board, dissecting every accusation made against Dr. Littell, an Epoch Times reporter confirmed. And as word of the threat to Dr. Littell's board certification spread—a move that would prevent him from practicing medicine—medical freedom activists rose up to take his side.

A GiveSendGo.com campaign was started to collect donations to fund his legal fees. More than 6,400 people donated almost $255,000. And more than 1,900 pledged to pray for Dr. Littell.

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Martha's avatar

Was just going to post about this as well. Kudos to Jeff and the C&C Army!

To read the entire article, try avoiding the paywall by using: https://12ft.io/

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!! Go Jeff and Dr Littell!!

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Lincoln's avatar

Donna...I live in Florida. Dr. Littell is my hero! I sent many people to him from across the country (via phone call to his nurse) who were evaluated and prescribed the hydroxychloroquine and ivermectin needed, script received and in their hands within a few hours. One friend’s grandmother in Oregon was most thankful, as she was ready to be hospitalized, and in Oregon...we all know how THAT would have turned out.

So, of course the powers that be would target him. But PTL for Jeff Childers, our attorney, watchdog, and friend who represented him. Childers, too, is at the top of my “hero’s” list!

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Dr Linda's avatar

Thanks Donna! Rare good news

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Freebird's avatar

Wonderful story Donna! Thanks for sharing it! ❤️

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Penny North's avatar

I bet he’ll cover it tomorrow when he promised the full deal.

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Janet's avatar

Someone did bring this up in yesterday’s comments, I believe. Or Saturday?

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

For He rescued us from the domain of darkness, and transferred us to the kingdom of His beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins. He is the image of the invisible God, the firstborn of all creation. For by Him all things were created, both in the heavens and on earth, visible and invisible, whether thrones or dominions or rulers or authorities⁠—all things have been created through Him and for Him. He is before all things, and in Him all things hold together.

— Colossians 1:13-17 NASB1995

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LS Woodruff's avatar

And let us not forget the 'invisible' that He created for our good and protection!

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nt's avatar

Rescued from the domain of darkness 🙌

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

There is no climate change! Only climate profits:

https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-hidden-profits-of-climate-change

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Of course there is climate change. There is ample evidence the climate changes and has changed for millions of years. People possibly contribute a minute amount to it, but what they have not and cannot prove is that the current warming from a mini ice age is harmful, nor that any human mitigation efforts will make any meaningful difference. It is being used as a ploy to garner more of our money and power to the connected elites.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not climate change the way they define it—man made.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Greta needs the money since she has no marketable skills.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

The earth isn't millions of years old. But it has changed a lot. Dinosaurs aren't around to day for a reason

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

The current amount of CO2 in our atmosphere is 0.04%. At 0.02%, plants and therefore animals start DYING. In the distant past, our C02 levels were higher.

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Michelle's avatar

And not millions of years...

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Frank Canzolino's avatar

And those profits ain’t chump change...

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FourWinds's avatar

It's just more lunatic left garbage. I am telling you.... if you told these idiots the sky was pink and not blue, over time they would believe it and try to prosecute anyone who didn't agree. I don't actually have a problem with idiots believing in climate nonsense, but I do have a problem with them trying to impose their beliefs on me. Same with Covidiots. Go ahead and jab yourself to death, but keep that away from me.

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Peace's avatar

And I have a problem with our friends at the top using my tax money to "combat climate change."

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

As well you should.

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FourWinds's avatar

Agree 100%!

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Lon Guyland's avatar

“Do you suppose these 1,600 scientists’ opinion will stop the climate psychos from claiming there is “consensus” among scientists about global warming?”

We can only hope, but no, there’s a consensus among those who make their money from “climate” fraud that the show must go on. They have never displayed even the slightest interest in letting facts get in the way of the gravy train.

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RunningLogic's avatar

They just need a few loudmouth paid shills to declare a “consensus.” Reality doesn’t matter.

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Jaci's avatar

Reality does matter and we must each find out the truth of all the lies that have been perpetuated upon us! There are more lies and circle backs the longer we live. I see them and ignore them as it is all crazy making, fear producing greed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

To us it does, but to them it doesn’t.

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Tom's avatar

There's not even consensus among climate grifters as to whether we should plant trees or cut them down.

I will not be at all surprised if these rational scientists are shouted down by the climate alarmists.

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Sherry 1's avatar

Coincidentally, Bill Gates is on a new tear - he wants to use giant AI harvesters and cut and bury massive numbers of trees. So they can’t burn and spew C02? 🧐 I thought these folks wanted to BURN us out, not bury us out! Has the fool ever walked in a thick Canadian northern forest?

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Dr Linda's avatar

That bury trees thing threw for a loop.

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Tom's avatar

It's utter madness.

"We must bury everything made of carbon!!!"

Wait. I'm made of carbon . . .

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RunningLogic's avatar

Huh. Ebola at Burning Man was not on my bingo card for this year 🤔🤪

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Temcol's avatar

Oh my gosh! There should be a bingo game of outrageous events to come. That is brilliant.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

But what happens when you shout Bingo? 🤣

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Temcol's avatar

Good question!! Haha! What would one win?

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TB's avatar

The Rapture?

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Temcol's avatar

YES!! 🙌

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Roger Beal's avatar

A vaccination.

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Temcol's avatar

Oh my gosh! 😂

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Zelenskyy’s mother-in-law has just purchased a Luxury Villa in El Gouna, Egypt…

The Villa was purchased for $4,850,000 USD and is next door to the estate of Angelina Jolie…

Now you know where the humanitarian aid funds are going.

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Need a “Dislike” button for this 🤬

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right??? I like that BFM is making us aware of it but DON’T like the action he’s informing us about!

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Michele's avatar

🤬😡🤬🤬🤬😡🤬

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Roger Beal's avatar

Keep an eye out for transfers of large plots of Maui property to Ukrainian nationals.

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AngelaK's avatar

I read a while ago, in a European paper, after first billions were given, Switzerland reported many millions dollar properties being bought by Ukrainian officials. All coincidences I am sure! 🙄

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

That's actually false.

I saw the "news" and tracked it back to an un-named egyptian who just found the interenet.

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Ellen's avatar

Do you have any kind of citation or link for this? would like to share it with others who will have trouble believing it without...

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Ellen's avatar

Sadly, if you follow all the links back to get to the original reporting, you get 404 errors and page doesn't exist. Very frustrating. Not that I doubt the story, but the reporting starts to feel like the old "telephone" game.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Because it's fake.

If you track the source back it's an egyptian guy who just discovered the internet last week.

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Ellen's avatar

This happens too often. I wish people would check things before posting them.

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JohnS's avatar

I would expect those 1600 scientists to have no more success than those who signed the Great Barrington Declaration.

When there are billions on the table, what’s a few million to finance a smear campaign aimed at such “denialists”?

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

My thoughts

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polistra's avatar

Climate realists have been signing open letters for 30 years. Open letters are powerless. Facts are powerless. Tenure and government grants are the only power. Nothing else exists.

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Fiona walker's avatar

I understood that the Canadian teacher was trolling the school board, after being accused of toxic masculinity, and they predictably bowed to his whims. Hope he keeps it up next term.

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Andrea Leshok's avatar

I heard this too and I can only hope that it's true. What a great way to open everyone's eyes to the absolute insanity they defend!

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barbara ford's avatar

Just read that Dr Littell has been allowed back into the good graces of his medical certification board. And that Jeff Childers wrote a great letter outlining why he should never have been questioned in the first place. Way to go! Thank you!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!! Great news!!

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barbara ford's avatar

Yep!!👏👏👏😁

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Vicki's avatar

Since Zelenski has also been in charge of the war for 550 days of full scale war with only a depleted army, citizen population due to conscription, and a waste of OUR $$$ and materials to show for it... .isn't it time for someone to bring a "new approach" and replace him as well? But wait! He's been too good at laundering $$$ for our Congressmen and the Biden regime!

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

He's been successfully fighting Russia and saving his country.

You can see the map how our aid has been effective.

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Roger Beal's avatar

That would be the map of major urban centers in the USA that are in growing disrepair for lack of federal infrastructure funds ... correct?

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Actually no, cities like Urozhaine, Robotyne, Lyman, Sumy, Izium, Kherson, Balakliya, and Kupyansk which were freed from the vaccine mandater himself.

Ukraine isn't responsible for the lack of federal infrastructure. Why didn't trump fix it?

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Becky Scott's avatar

World climate Declaration reminds me of The Great Barrington Declaration. I remember reading Barrington and thinking, “yes!”, and searching for someone (media?!) who would analyze it and speak to its authors....crickets.

But it was being discussed...2 years later, incontrovertible evidence was made available: Francis Collins was busy- not addressing the arguments and concerns of GBD- but searching for ways to professionally discredit the individual doctors who initiated the GBD as “fringe”.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

The climate psychos know their history. They learned Nazi Propaganda Minister Josef Goebbels prime directive. “Tell a lie often enough and loud enough and it becomes the truth”.

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Rebecca Campbell's avatar

This should work the same for telling the truth. We may need to speak the truth more often on the platforms that routinely tell lies.

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FourWinds's avatar

Right, and once a person sees the lies, they can never unsee it.

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Benjamin Two N's's avatar

Just like how jeff repeats pro-Russian myths.

I remember him saying "What counter offensive?" and now suddenly it's failed or burned out.

The narrative keeps changing.

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AlternativeNarrative's avatar

Fabulous as ever Jeff. I too can find little real evidence of outbreaks at Burning Man & the only person I could find on fb who is actually there agreed. However, if some sort of haemorrhagic fever were to strike a US festival it might be more likely to be caused by Hantavirus, which is often carried by north American mice & rats. Mice & rats are often quite attracted to scruffy hippies camping in the desert. I mean that in the kindest possible way, due to being a DJ & confirmed scruffy hippy myself.

Good report of the proxy war too. All the best until next time!

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

I too know of someone who is there. Quite surprised that they were/are there. Stuck in mud of course.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That gives a new meaning to being a stick (stuck?) in the mud 😆

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

😂😂😂😂🤣🤣

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Sadly😏, there was also a movie with Nicholas Cage...it was called Whicker Man

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Michele's avatar

Which was actually a pretty boring movie, as I remember it.

Kinda how I feel about Burners. Yeah yeah, you're so extreme (pat on head). Run along now.

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AlternativeNarrative's avatar

But no haemorrhagic fever, no?

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Last I saw on their FB page was that their plan to leave was cancelled because of mud. That was two days ago

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Roger Beal's avatar

We geezers remember Woodstock ... same crowd, same mud. But no ebola!!

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