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Erin W's avatar

Now, someone with real balls, needs to argue that the rest of the CDC childhood schedule vaccines “protecting others” needs to be cast into doubt, as the compelling evidence points to nutrition, hygiene, and sanitation.

Oh, the science is conflicted? Great. So there’s doubt. Let’s start prying at the cracks.

Begging as a mother on behalf of all rational parents everywhere.

AnnieMarie's avatar

I agree completely! Babies today are getting a sickening amount of vaccines before they are even a year old! Way more than 20 years ago even!

PamelaZelie's avatar

I’ve come to the conclusion we need no vaccines. And, the number of shots forced upon children is truly horrifying.

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Me three. Mine are grown but if I had to do it again ....

And we have an infant godson who I'm terrified for.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

LOVE on that godson, Fred--pour the Holy Spirit love over that child!!

william howard's avatar

Dr Mercola agrees with you

JudyC's avatar

(Long time follower of Mercola. He was my “gateway” into understanding health.)

John Ransley's avatar

Go Mercola! No jabs no seed oils no leaky gut.Thank you Dr.

Kathryn Caldwell's avatar

Dr. Mercola was my "go-to" for years but lately something seems to be amiss with him. I don't know what is going on but I am a bit skeptical when I hear things like he is consulting with a psychic. I do see a difference in him. I just pray that he is ok.

nancylee's avatar

next step: there are no virus* correction: no virus has ever actually been shown to exist. they appear to have always been the fraud invention that opens the door to vaccines.

Drs Sam and Mark Bailey for much more info https://www.spreaker.com/episode/episode-435-a-farewell-to-virology-with-guest-dr-mark-bailey--51376779

Not That “Karen”'s avatar

I may be a lone dissenter here, but when you say viruses don’t exist to people, that’s when you start to lose them and their eyes begin to glaze over and they begin to think crazy conspiracy theorist and they tune out anything else you have to say and disregard anything you had said before. If there are no viruses (and I really don’t care if you call them viruses or something else) then explain what causes measles, mumps, hepatitis, Ebola, Covid, etc

If you tell me Covid wasn’t real, the many people who experienced it firsthand would beg to differ. I have never been as sick as I was with Covid (and no I did not get the shot) and it was totally different than any typical flu I’ve had before. I lost my sense of smell and it took over a year for it to come back. I’m not saying it rose to the level of a pandemic, but there was something different going around, and I don’t think it necessarily helps the “cause” to say viruses don’t exist until you’re prepared to offer an alternative to what has made someone sick other than “oh, it’s the 5G”, or “it’s just your body detoxing”, or “its really past traumas just coming to the surface”.

To be clear though, I am against any and all vaccines and pretty much every other pharmaceutical product and allopathic medicine in general, because I don’t think “scientists” are anywhere close to smart enough to have a detailed understanding of how the human body actually functions, to be able to develop something that will not have unintended and potentially devastating consequences.

Gabriella's avatar

Interestingly, I watched a video with Dr. Mercola and Suzanne Humphries. They both seem to believe in viruses because of childhood diseases like measles and chickenpox. These are contagious and then people don’t get them again. Most develop immunity. Unlike colds & flu that we get multiple times and are a lot of times very similar.

I don’t fully believe colds and flus are contagious as most times in our household we don’t catch or pass on one another’s illness. I have slept in the same bed with my husband for 39 years through all our colds & few flus and we never passed one to the other.

I do believe more investigating needs to be done.

Bubblehead604's avatar

Correct! The link you sent is good; Sam and Mark are warriors, as are Dr. Cowan, Dr. Kaufman, Stefan Lanka, and others. The science is on the side of terrain theory, not germ theory. Here's another excellent video that comprehensively explains the failures of germ theory:

https://odysee.com/@TruthVault:0/The-End-of-Germ-Theory:b

Gabriella's avatar

Thank for this podcast link. Heads up to others… you have to listen to an intro that’s about 20-30 min. before the interview with Mark Bailey. The sound clip with Del Bigtree is one I have not heard before. He thinks the no virus theory should be ignored for now. He thinks that he’ll get more open listeners in government if the focus is vaccines are harmfull.

liz's avatar

I agree. this "science" is completely corrupted by $$$$$

Monterey's avatar

Right there with you. Like Dr. Peter McCullough said, 'vaccines are not the free lunch we thought they were. ' How succinct and accurate that has turned out to be. I think the long slow slide for the vaccine manufacturers has begun.

Just Comment's avatar

Trust Nature to sort things out.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

True. The US has the highest infant mortality rate in the developed world, and has worse rates than quite a few semi-developed countries.

JudyC's avatar

78 or 79 doses of assorted “vaccines” by the time they’re 18! In the 60’s it was 3, in the 80’s something like 13. And we wonder why there is such a surge in autism, ADHD, autoimmune disease, etc! People can argue all day long about whether vaccines cause autism, for instance, but for the love of God, who in their right mind cannot see that pumping kids with 79 doses of ANYTHING is going to cause problems!

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

JudyC your right, no one needs to wonder. Autism, ADHD &autoimmune disease, is caused by vaccine. Period.

RunningLogic's avatar

And allergies, I would not be surprised about that being linked to vaccines either.

Vida Galore's avatar

Austism absolutely has to be. There is one common denominator: vaccines.

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

You know who's the only candidate who has called this vaccine schedule into question?

RFK Jr.

KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

That's the ONLY topic on which I agree with him.

Lynn Faulkner's avatar

Which I admired him for at the time. Unfortunately, RFK is a staunch supporter of the genocide in Palestine.

Frontera Lupita's avatar

RFK Jr. is not ‘anti-vaxx’ per se. CHD has come out against the ‘childhood vaccine schedule’ and the EUA mRNA ‘shots’.

Fred's avatar

Head of HHS? Sec of State? Sad that he cannot possibly get to 270 electoral votes. Impossible. Some States don’t have to honor their voter’s preferences, but that’s a fairly minor issue. I don’t trust the House to decide the election, so please pick a side for 2024 and don’t send us down that rabbit hole.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

How many 28 year olds are even going to know that when they enroll their kids in school?

Not many I reckon. Little "Tommy" will be getting his shot 90% of the time.

Something wicked this way comes.

AP's avatar

Ya, especially my former compatriots north of the border. They are devoid of questionable thoughts. It’s as if the past four years hadn’t happened.

Lori H's avatar

Not my grandkids cuz I’ve been educating my own kids on the vaccine and medical fallacies for years!🙌🏼

Joanne Shannon's avatar

The CDC knows vaccines cause autism. It’s been 10 years and Congress still hasn’t subpoenaed the CDC Whistleblower Dr. William Thompson. Pharmawhore Dr. Julie Gerberding became the President of the Vaccine Division at Merck for shredding the documents of the study the CDC performed, which showed a 260% increase in black male babies regressing into autism after the MMR. So, here’s a perfect example of a lack of transparency.

Roger Beal's avatar

Black babies, eh? Margaret Sanger (Hillary's idol) is applauding in hell.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

The "vaccines" have nothing to do with health, they make us un-healthy. But they do make the giant pharmaceuticals and their captured "government regulators" immensely wealthy, with our tax dollars and those of virtually every country on the planet. Human cockroach mr fauci and his underlings in NIAID, and others in NIH, CDC, etc made hundreds of millions of dollars in royalty payments. WTF??? How are civil servants allowed to make millions in royalties off the pharmaceutical companies they are supposed to regulate to protect us?

JudyC's avatar

Same way our elected officials are allowed to engage in insider trading, or get paid $900,000 for a forthcoming book deal….

Joanne Shannon's avatar

The bipartisan Bayh-Dole Act is the culprit.

AngelaK's avatar

In 1982 when my first child was born, it was 7.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

that's what i thought. i was born in 71'. I think it may have been less than that back in the day.

Frontera Lupita's avatar

When I was born in 1952, there were no vaccines at birth and I think I got the Diphtheria/Tetanus and Polio. That’s it.

Knotgrass's avatar

I like that “vaccine cult” is a good name and or “vaccine worshippers” for sure. They sure love throwing around the label of “anti-vax “ if you don’t believe in jabbing.

daverkb's avatar

This can only be a Vaccine Cult, a form of worship where medical self-flagellation is obligatory. Some people are attracted to this cult because they like metal objects hanging on their bodies because it gives them a warm fuzzy feeling, something like light up Christmas trees fulsome with sparkling Christmas balls.

You may think my scribbling here a tad bizarre. But I assure you! It is not ... and no more bizarre than the people who saw Mr. Covid lurking around every corner, twist and turn of their pathways. Ah yes! The Ubiquitous Mr. Covid. He is Everywhere.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

Other countries children don’t have the allergies or autoimmune issues kids here have. Vax schedule !

Lynn Faulkner's avatar

My only child was born 62 years ago before all this insanity. I can't imagine being a mother today with young children.

JudyC's avatar

I would opt not to have them, sadly. I have 2 grown children and neither want to have children until they see what’s going to happen. This is very common amongst their friends. Just another reason we are depopulating.

Kim Di Giacomo's avatar

My children were born in 1985 & 1990 - vaccines were a normal thing at that time, we didn't give it a second thought as their checkups consisted of the Dr. explaining what the vaccines were for. Neither of my kids were harmed. Fast forward to 2007 today, as a grandma of 8, out of them all 4 girls and 4 boys only 2 of them appear to have some difficulties. I firmly believe it was the vaccines that caused it.

Roger Beal's avatar

2 out of 8 is TWENTY-FIVE PERCENT. No offense meant but, if your investments had a 25% failure track record, you'd change brokers.

Based Florida Man's avatar

A quarter of them were vax injured, how do we allow them to do that to our children?

PEL's avatar

Because now they get so many more!!! It’s insane what is given to children—annual covid and flu shots, Hep A/B!!!!

Alice in Wonderland's avatar

*DURING* Psyop-19 [NOT to imply that said operation is over] it went from 72 doses to 90 (***NINETY!!***) This has gone way past 'obscene,' past 'criminal,' past 'tragic,' and reached 'profoundly evil.'

Ruth H's avatar

Newborns on day one are getting vaccines that are totally not needed.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

way more than 50 years ago!! AnnieMarie.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Shoot. I think I only had 5 or 6 when I grew up

Becky's avatar

My Mom is 96 and in great shape, and can’t even remember her last vaccine. She declines them all and has for decades. She was raised on a farm with almost all the family’s food produced by themselves. Somehow, with the medical indu$try being what it has become, and food being processed and even produce being lower in nutrients, I don’t think we’ll be seeing as many people in the future who reach their 90s in good fettle.

Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

I was a military kid, so I got jabbed, but I got hammered being a veteran.

JudyC's avatar

I was born in the early 50’s so had 3 growing up…until the age of 9, when my family moved to Libya. We were plied with multiple vaccines (typhoid, TB, Cholera, smallpox, and polio) as was everyone I knew overseas. Nonetheless, still WAY less than now, and we never knew a single kid who had a heart attack, a turbo cancer, had autism, ADHD, etc, etc, etc! Most in my generation, if asked, will say the same, those afflictions were just about unheard of!

Kim's avatar

Yes please. My teen had a well check this week and the doctor tried to convince me that she HAD to have 3 meningitis vaccines in order to go to college. Nope. Not doing that to her again. I pretty much lost it and she then led me to the option of exemptions.

Carol M.'s avatar

Way back when “guardasil” first arrived, doc tried to get me to give ok to give to my daughter. I read the brochure & said no. Later in the week, a nurse from our state dept of health called me. “Why not?” she asked. I stated it was only tried on 12 girls! She admitted she wasn’t giving it to her girls either. About a decade later, when my daughter was going to doc by herself, they tried again. She asked, if it’s only for ages 14-24, what happens if someone older takes it? The doc was stunned and let it drop. Our kids learn, even when we don’t realize it. Also, from their current commercial, I see they give it to both boys & girls, regardless of age.🤦‍♀️

Renee Sommers's avatar

https://youtu.be/FKBahh3Ut64?si=TGAkwSLvPhNYV-Ow

This is a story from the Vaxxed movie about Gardisil. Colton took his life at 18 because he didn’t want to be a burden to his family.

Sunnydaze's avatar

This makes me so mad I’m in tears. I’m sick. My son was talked into HPV vax when he went into the Dr unaccompanied by me. At 13-14. Thanks to Oregon law that said I was no longer needed and my kids could make their own medical decisions. 🤮 I would have NEVER let him do it. I was livid. Still am. I’m sick for Colton and his family.

Cheryl Milroy's avatar

I was horrified to learn recently, that my now 32 year old daughter was enticed into receiving the Gardasil shot when in school, with me not knowing anything about it!

Carol M.'s avatar

Some friends of mine told me their kids on high school teams were forced into it! They had a terrible reaction to the first shot & refused the remaining two. Sad.

Roger Beal's avatar

I googled "what is gardasil" and THIS was the third info line returned:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FamilyMedicine/comments/16titq5/whats_with_the_opposition_to_gardasil_and_how_do/

A few select quotes from the medical community gleaned from that Reddit thread follow ..."I lean into this is the first vaccine that can porevent cancer" ... "vaccine paranoia" ... "I think [parents] see it as sexualizing children" ...

It is interesting but not surprising to learn that anyone who objects to The Allopathic Life (t.m.reg.) is sneered at and described as a fool.

Kathy's avatar

It was considered by many to be the most dangerous shot until the Covid genetic injection came along. In Australia, the drug companies do not have immunity. I remember hearing RFK say that a lawyer could make a great living in Australia just by taking Gaurdisil cases, because the injuries were so devastating and easy to prove. The sad thing is that less women and girls are getting Pap smears, which easily detect any abnormal cells on the cervix. And of course, the shots interfere with the immune system comment making any kind of cancer more likely.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

If a girl waits until marriage to have sex and her husband waited too, neither is at risk of any sexually transmitted disease, no pap smears or gardasil needed.

People these days seem to think having sex is an uncontrollable urge. It’s not. “My body my choice” begins before sexual intimacy occurs.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

& the commercials for it are on every night

STH's avatar

I declined the guardasil for my daughter too way back when. Then a friend of a friend died of papaloma virus throat cancer at 33. You don’t get paps for your throat so I got scared and had her get them. I still regret it. Thank God she was okay and is now 21 weeks pregnant with our first grandbaby. And this child will have no shots ever if I have to homeschool her myself, I will. Luckily we still have exemptions in my state.

Paige Green's avatar

My sister had it in her tongue. It has a high survival rate but it sounds like the 33 yo waited until it was too late and it must have metastasized into probably the lymph nodes. Not good.

Michelle D's avatar

Yeah, my boys doctor asked me, why, as a woman, I wouldn't want my boys vaxxed to prevent girls from getting cervical cancer. I replied, "They are 12 and not having sex and when they do, they can wrap it up." When I pointed out the issues in Australia, he told me it was all bunk and did a google search to show me nothing showed up.

Based Florida Man's avatar

I love that. Google 'white couples' to see how corrupt that 'search' engine is.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

My cousin sells it and refuses to let her daughters take it!

Jeff C's avatar

Interesting that a nurse from the Health Dept called. I never answer these types of intrusive questions regardless of who is asking them. I'll usually reply with "how is that your business?" or something along those lines. My pastor once pointed out how Jesus in the Gospels often answered bad-faith questions with a question. That made a big impression on me.

Every interaction like this has three potential outcomes, I'll come out ahead, stay the same, or come out behind. There is zero chance I'd come out ahead in this instance. I'll likely stay the same, but there is a chance I come out behind if I say something incriminating that this person in authority doesn't like. Why in the world would one choose to participate in a voluntary interaction with those potential consequences?

Carol M.'s avatar

I was naive and since it was another woman figured she would level with me. And she did! This was around 2010, maybe. But now…would probably take your advice and not get into it!

Joanne Shannon's avatar

Japan pulled it from the market due to all the injuries. But not the good ol’USA. We have commercials showing “cab dad” whose job is to keep his family safe.

Bitsy54's avatar

Yes, because “the new boys” are REALLY girls- see how their bs fear porn works?!

RunningLogic's avatar

The argument I heard was because it’s sexually transmitted getting boys the shots would make it less likely they’d transmit 😕 I think it’s a bogus argument but clearly some bought into it.

SeeingTruth's avatar

My friend's teen daughter was separated from her mom for the physical exam at the ob gyn. My friend specifically told the dr and nurse no hpv vax. This child was given the shot anyway and has self reported she has never felt the same way since.

Carol M.'s avatar

Your friend should sue/report if possible. So sad😢 We parents & grands have to go beyond “stranger danger” to tell kids that even people who seem ok do not always have their best interest at heart. Especially if money is involved! 🥺

Jeff C's avatar

My son started a Cal State University last September, they have a meningitis vax requirement. We simply filled out the religious exemption form that a long-standing Board of Regents order requires schools to accept. It was not intrusive but simply requires students to affirm that they have a religious or philosophical objection to vaccines. It was approved no questions asked.

The school didn't make the form easy to find and did the old trick saying all students were "required" to get vaxxed without elaborating on exemptions. But they are there if you hunt for them.

Not being judgmental but curious why you take your kids to pediatrician for a "wellness check" when there's nothing wrong with them. Between vaxxing them up, trying to separate you from your child to talk about sexual deviancy, and asking you intrusive questions like "do you have a gun in the house" there is zero reason to do so. Remember a simpler time when we only went to the doctor when we were actually sick?

Saylor Sherman's avatar

Our private school says the wellness visit is required by the state. A certain form must be completed at the visit. I researched this “law” and from what I can tell it is an effort to check kids for abuse. They have good intentions perhaps, but it is extremely invasive, the doctor inspects every square inch of my child looking for signs of abuse, completely unacceptable if you ask me and I’m about to forge the form next year.

Jeff C's avatar

I don't know about your state but most laws like this have an exemption provision to fend off legal challenges (though it's usually hidden or not disclosed). That way the requirement becomes technically voluntary. You have to find the actual law passed by the legislature and read the language in detail. Press releases and summaries put out by Public Health departments *never* state this and are intended to mislead you.

California has a requirement that all kids starting elementary school must have a dental exam (it was pushed by the Dentist's lobby). Although we had taken our kids to the dentist, we submitted the exemption because screw these people. Accepted with no questions asked.

Kim's avatar

There is something wrong. She has chronic conditions. These are most likely from childhood vaccinations. Functional doc suggested I get any blood work done through doctors so insurance will pay.

Jeff C's avatar

So sorry Kim, she is in our prayers. We are in the same boat with our older son and thankfully a GFCF diet and protein supplements have made a huge difference for him. Stand your ground mom, you are doing the right thing on the vax (but you know that). I'm sure you can get an exemption for college. Even here in California (which doesn't have a childhood vax religious exemption) they have them for college. The National Vaccine Information Center is a great resource if you need help. God bless.

rolandttg's avatar

Did we even have pediatricians back then (i'm 71).? I only recall seeing the same Dr my parents' did.

liz's avatar

yes also 71.- my dad was a pediatrician who did house calls and traded with the local farmers for bags of Potatoes, tomatoes etc.

he talked a lot about preventive medicine which I think, knowing him, was about avoiding sugar and candy and eating more whole foods, not prepared ones and no chemicals added.. and less tv, more exercise, drinking water, instead of soda, etc.

carily myers's avatar

Doc Gamm tended to my dad when he got chewed up by a chain saw, delivered all 6 of us kids and stitched up our family as needed. Small village in MN. Nobody had a choice, really. Thank God, he was a good Doc.

Peace's avatar

Yes! I never went because I would never complain and would try to hide any illness from my mom so I wouldn't have to go!

Brenda Ping's avatar

My Medicare doctor’s office called for my annual wellness check up. I told them I was fine and thanks for calling and hung up!!

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Or, "Yes I'm well. Thanks for checking up." ->hang up. Keeping that one in my hip pocket.😉

daverkb's avatar

That's my question. Like ... someone takes their kid with nothing wrong with them to a doctor so that the doctor can say that there is nothing wrong with them.

Does any of that make any sense. Is that or is that not a usurpation of all parental authority? And the adult goes along with it like some knee jerk cast in cement consent.

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

I cop to fear on going along with the program. The court system was part of that. That, and at the time, late 20c in the immediate wake of the 1986 Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, I didn't know any better. If I knew then what I know now, the court system would still loom. I take your point, truly, but from the outside not every parent's choice can account for the subject circumstance. Just presenting another point of view. No intention to instigate anything heated.

Kim's avatar

In my case, there IS something wrong with my daughter. The functional doctor recommended I take her for blood work purposes. She is chronically ill and needs checks. Sometimes things are not cut and dry when your kid is ill. Otherwise, she would not be going to the doctor.

Not Me's avatar

My granddaughter could not see well. The pediatrician helped us find that out when she was only 2.

Jeff C's avatar

No one is saying never take your child to a doctor. If there are symptoms of a problem then absolutely one should get their child checked out.

What we are saying is that "well baby checks" are an excuse to get your child into the office to shoot them up with vaccines. That's the point. And most pediatricians are the worst pharma pushers of them all as they get paid large bonuses for hitting vaccination targets. The child is a revenue stream for them, they aren't unpaid missionaries helping poor starving kids.

It's fascinating that people think a single case of a pediatrician doing good somehow invalidates the the obvious corruption of the well baby visit premise. Hopefully this doesn't come across as overly harsh but this is shallow thinking. It's the same logic used to validate the entire vaccine program, if it saves just one life then the whole thing is worth it. No that's not true. We have to assess not just the possible consequence (your child might die!!) but also the likelihood. That's how one assesses risk and determining the prudent action, not just based on fear-mongering.

Pushing on this a bit further, did the pediatrician fix the child's vision problems by catching it early? Does the child have 20/20 vision now? Of course not. At best the pediatrician got the child wearing glasses earlier than she might have otherwise. That's all well and good but hardly a medical miracle. The parents, you, or a teacher would have noticed it soon enough without the well baby visit.

It's stories like yours that have been used to guilt well-meaning parents into regular office visits otherwise they get tarred as "bad parents". I don't mean this toward you as I know that's not your intention. But this is exactly what the medical industry does and it is their intention.

Paige Green's avatar

I go to my PCP so infrequently, the last time in 2019, his first comment was “Long time no see!”

I needed to find out if I needed surgery on my shoulder. Otherwise I wouldn’t have been in at all.

Peace's avatar

I'm surprised your doc mentioned exemptions - usually the medical folks won't bring that up! Was this a pediatrician or family medicine doc?

Jeff C's avatar

I think the answer is in her comment, "I pretty much lost it..." Good for her. People just passively accept a lot of this stuff but a good dose of well-timed righteous anger can work wonders.

Kim's avatar

PCP. I was surprised too. I believe my response is what did it. Then I was really angry about the approach.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Any touch point with medical providers (these days) is just a chance to be shaken down to take pills, jabs, and procedures. The medical industry is a total mess now.

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

An opinion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3j88NHXUS0

*edit: "Like" button 𝑠𝑡𝑖𝑙𝑙 not working

Joanne Shannon's avatar

I can relate. Our doctor threw a fit when my son said no, so he called me into the examining room. I confirmed he was not to be given the vaccine. He said I was putting the “boy” at harm. I said he already has severe allergies and his immune system was not strong enough. He left the room and a nurse came in with a tray loaded with syringes! I asked her what are those for, we said no. She went and got Dr. Benadryl (the name I gave him when my son was younger). He came back into the room screaming at me. The a-hole had the nerve to tell me the government would take care of him. I looked him dead in the eye and said no means no. When he stormed out the nurse said to me, “Good for you. I remember you. Where have you been?” We hadn’t gone to him for 12 years. The only reason we were there, was to get a copy of his records for college. We were able to file a philosophical exemption because they were still accepted in 2009.

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Sweettea71's avatar

I worked in healthcare for over 20 years. "Well checks" are nothing more than a process to get you back into the clinic for a billable event. Pediatricians are notorious for this because of the fact the ages they treat don’t have chronic conditions like adults. Big Food and Big Pharma are doing all they can to change that, but it doesn’t happen overnight so "well checks" are needed to pay the bills.

Peace's avatar

Good point - I hadn't thought about the fact that pediatricians aren't dealing with the chronic conditions. Although, in recent years, there has certainly been an uptick in the four A's - Asthma, allergies, autoimmune diseases, and autism that should help their bottom line.

Lynn Faulkner's avatar

And if at all possible, get you on some meds for one thing or another, whether you need them or not.

Joanne Shannon's avatar

Pediatricians make big bucks if they can vaccinate a high percentage of the children. I tell people to avoid pediatricians like the plague!

Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

My only regret is that I have but one "like" to give to this post!

Juju's avatar

I’m liking so many in this article my finger is bleeding 🤣 I love you all and your critical thinking skills. God bless each one of you and keep speaking up. Don’t stop! Some say there’s a lot of talk but no action. But talking out loud about what-must-not-be-named IS taking action and brave at that during these times. We give each other courage so that when an opportunity (crossroad) to actually physically do something we are equipped with the necessary courage. So I Like. Like. Like!!

CitizenA's avatar

And Fred mine is that my “like” button is disabled (as it is for many of us that have complained of the same problem.) Beyond frustrating when I do not want to comment on EVERY post I like, but do want to add my approval by clicking the “like” button.

I wonder if anyone is working on this problem, or even knows it exists, or who can we even contact to fix it? I see this same complaint on OTHER SUBSTACKS besides C&C.

Kim's avatar

I think you’re right. She will be a senior next year. We should just be done with them since they aim to injure.

Jeff C's avatar

There are foolish people that do take older cars to the dealership for "wellness checks". An acquaintance asked for advice on this just the other day as he had taken the car to a dealership for an oil change (first mistake). He asked them to look it over and the came back with $10k in "recommended repairs". None of them were warranted except a minor coolant leak which they were overcharging by a factor of three to repair.

A concept with initial good intentions, preventative health care or preventative maintenance, has been completely corrupted by a unethical system to fool people into spending money on stuff they don't need. They use fear-mongering and the customers ignorance to pressure them. It amazes me that most people still can't see this and take this stuff seriously rather than laugh at these people and walk out.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I've never understood why people see their doctors for this weird thing called a "wellness check." If you are well, why would you go? And these days, even if I don't feel well, I don't go. 😂

RunningLogic's avatar

This reminds me of my mom's strategy for a pushy salesperson who wanted her to buy an extended warranty. She told him to that she had every confidence that the product was such good quality, an extended warranty wasn’t necessary. He didn’t know what to say back 😆

Roger Beal's avatar

Walmart checkout cash register prompt: "Would you like to buy an extended warranty on your new flat screen TV?" That would be the TV which will last for ten years of normal use.

Ms Helen's avatar

As an old lady on Medicare, I have had several calls from my insurance provider to have them come and do a "home health visit", they'll give me a $15 bonus if I do it.

My thoughts since CV is, if they have to pay you for it, it's probably not in your best interest.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

They make sure you don’t have fall risks inside the house and basically check your blood pressure. Not really helpful unless you want company.

SeeingTruth's avatar

Medicaid does the same. They will pay you a bonus to have an annual dr visit. Bribery 101. If someone wanted to have an annual appointment, no bribe "bonus" needed. All bs.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

yeah man, let kids be kids. they get runny noses for a reason.

there seems to be a misunderstanding; all of us will shuffle this mortal coil.

there's just nothing to disambiguate and children would be better off knowing this.

how else are they going to evaluate their own risk?

Roger Beal's avatar

Another cause of the increase in childhood diseases is the obsession with cleanliness and handwashing with antibiotic soaps. I am not advocating for filth, but when we kids played in the dirt during the 1950s we returned the next day for more of the same, still healthy and stronger. Our moms did not try to trap us in antiseptic bubble suits, which seems to be commonplace today.

NewScott's avatar

With logic like that, you have come up with the perfect handle.

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Hum, something new? I'm BLOCKED from liking your comment...

CH's avatar

I was just thinking this needs to happen to the flu vaccine too. The flu vaccine does nothing but spread the flu.

Kathy's avatar

The department of defense did a study on its personnel in 2019 to see how effective flu vaccines were. It turns out that the flu vaccine raised your risk of all other respiratory viruses by 36%, including the coronaviruses that were circulating at the time.

Laura Love's avatar

Of course. The flu shot rarely matches the form in circulation, so your immune system is all primed for something that doesn’t exist while the stuff that does exist shows up and knocks you flat.

Jenn's avatar

I foolishly let my daughter have the flu shot 1.5 years ago and she has been more sick than the whole rest of her life. It really makes me upset. The upside is she knows she's been sick more times that she'd like and won't ever take another. Very hard lesson to learn.

Carol Brizzolara's avatar

Do you have a link to this study??? At some point there was a study done in South Korea, I believe, which did a flu vaccine v inert placebo study on flu vaccine effectiveness. I had the link to it on an old computer, which I no longer have and I can’t find that study any longer. That old study showed equal rates of the flu in both groups but far higher rates of other respiratory illnesses in the flu vaccine arm. I’d love to read the study you are referencing!!!

Roger Beal's avatar

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3404712/

For me, the takeaway line in that paper is, "Being protected against influenza, TIV recipients may lack temporary non-specific immunity that protected against other respiratory viruses." That applies equally to the mRNA spike protein and one's natural immune system.

Paige Green's avatar

Agreed. I’ve never had the flu shot, it’s been over 20 years since I’ve had the flu. Mom, in the few years before her death, had bad reactions but her doc had her keep getting it until I stepped in.

ChrisB's avatar

I really think that Aaron Siri and Del Bigtree, ICAN, are doing just that, inch by inch.

Kathy's avatar

Yes! They are great heroes. The Informed Consent Action Network is one of the best places to donate if you want to stop this vaccine madness.

Kathy's avatar

PS please watch TheHighwire online if you are not already doing so. They do in-depth investigative journalism, not only on science and medicine, but on climate and all of the globalist tactics, gender issues, and nefarious practices. If you watch the show, which is Live on Thursdays at 2 PM Eastern, and replayed anytime after that., you will be a few years ahead of the curve on events that are important to health and humanity. And it is entertaining and extremely inspirational!

STH's avatar

I’ve watched Del since he began in 2017. Watch Peggy Halls latest Substack video. She brings up some troubling info on a new ICAN and Aaron Siri lawsuit. You need to read it for yourself. Peggy makes some good points, that if true, will make me stop donating to them. I’ll see if I can find the link.

Pixie Prissy's avatar

I loved Del and Aaron until this 🧐

https://youtu.be/InkyUCE12QI?si=sugeLgJWpmeTMqwD

https://youtu.be/IAkJ84e-aJI?si=QLMwy0ISI_2UW6VB

Peggy raises very legitimate concerns, expressed the concerns direct to Del and Aaron but no response. 🤔

Heterodox Introvert's avatar

See link to The Highwire episode (with relevant time stamp) posted by @Fed up in this expanded thread. The text of the proposed law is very crafty - a sort of middle finger at all the craftiness in bills-passed-into-laws used against the People at every f'n turn by industry after industry. I would say rest assured Del and Aaron Siri & co know precisely what they're doing, but that is for you to decide on your own.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Interesting!

"But what really threw me for a loop was when a few of Bigtree’s associates reached out to me privately defending Bigtree saying that I, myself, was in error and that surely, Bigtree’s bill was nothing like I was making it out to be, because Bigtree is “one of us.”

Well, the thing is: I didn’t criticize Bigtree, I criticized his bill, and I stand by my analysis of it."

Frontera Lupita's avatar

The childhood vaccine schedule was bought and paid for by Big Pharma…with no basis that it protects or prevents anything the ‘shots’ are supposedly for. And how they guarantee this, is that they have bought many state legislatures, to pass legislation that requires ALL children be ‘vaccinated’ with this horrific and injurious ‘schedule’ to be able to attend school in these states. (And many states like California allow for absolutely NO exemptions.)

It’s a giant CASH COW for them and the pediatricians and health care provider groups that push them. And in turn these children become “lifetime patients” of the Industrial Medical Healthcare Delivery System from the ‘vaccine injuries’.

Parachutepants's avatar

Zero autism in the Amish - I wonder why?

Ryan Gardner's avatar

yup but also because they don't have teevees

Darby O'Gill's avatar

We all know and so does big pharma !!!

Jeff C's avatar

I agree, the court ruling set some really good precedents to build on. Aaron Siri has been doing exactly what you are requesting backed by Del Bigtree. I'm sure they'll be all over this.

There's lots to choose from but this is my favorite quote from the court, "Litigants who have already demonstrated their willingness to tactically manipulate the federal courts in this way should not be given any benefit of the doubt." Yes!!

The court is saying that people who routinely lie and/or act in bad faith are probably doing it this time too until proven otherwise (i.e. not given the benefit of the doubt). Hardly precedent setting but finally some common sense, by their fruits you shall know them.

Beth Bart's avatar

Just today, for the first time seeing hit pieces on both BigTree & Mercola.

liz's avatar

means they are over the target! Mercola has been banned for ages.

Based Florida Man's avatar

Well BigTree is pushing the FDA, and Mercola is pushing psychics and high-carb diets.

Did something happen to them to get them off course?

https://peggyhall.substack.com/p/why-is-del-bigtree-promotingvaccine?r=ys7bn&utm_medium=ios&triedRedirect=true

Beth Bart's avatar

But is it true? Been following Mercola for years & still get daily newsletters from him, never heard him pushing psychics. I’ve never heard of Peggy Hall until yesterday. 🤷‍♀️

Kathy's avatar

Many people are. Here are a few Dr. Peter McCullough, Steve Kirsch, Dr Pierre Kory, RFK, children’s health defense, a great organization led by warrior moms called PERK. There are many many others. The great lawyer Aaron Siri and the organization ICAN (informed Consent Action Network) I have been battling the CDC and FDA for years, and have had many victories and are building a foundation of precedents that can be built upon. ICAN is a great resource if you are interested in helping. They regained the religious exemption for school children in Mississippi, and are trying to free the five remaining states in the country that will not allow religious exemptions. ICAN is a fantastic nonprofit organization to donate to.

Sara A's avatar

They bastardized the term vaccine sufficiently to make all vaccines a therapeutic which makes them all optional? And let’s stop pretending the old vaccines were preventing disease as I am now told I need an MMR booster in my 40’s, a flu shot every year, chicken pox booster for my nephews in their 20’s, pneumococcal booster… Booster is the key word here - vaccine therapeutic. Therefore, all can be deemed optional.

Darby O'Gill's avatar

I still hate it when women use the word 'balls' instead of the word 'courage'........even when their message is correct like this one is.

Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

As a farmer, I can tell you balls are good for more than courage. They cause adventuresome behavior, stubbornness, a certain type of Don’t Screw with Me behavior, and other desirable traits.

It doesn’t take courage for a bull to chase me out of the pasture, because he’s easily big enough, as are the steers, but only one of them causes me to watch closely to see if he’s looking at me.

More of our men need to exhibit a strong enough Don’t Screw with Me and My Herd attitude to scare the bureaucrats and politicians.

rolandttg's avatar

As a friend with two daughters says , the womens' movement spent decades emasculating and criticizing masculine behavior, but now they regularly complain there are no real men left? Duh?

Lynn Faulkner's avatar

Unfortunately, we have generations of men who have been feminized by a woke agenda, and rarely exhibit the traits of a real man. I miss them.

Joanne Shannon's avatar

Personally, I wonder how much vaccines have been a cause of emasculating men.

Susan Clack's avatar

Well, a friend of mine coined the term “political castration” (PC) to describe the behavior of so many politicians and other “thought leaders” in our society today. Geldings and steers and capons behave differently than when they were “intact”…so…

Darby O'Gill's avatar

'Spineless cowards' gives a much stronger message and is as insulting as it gets. But, we live in an age of 'talking pigs' and it is getting worse. I have been guilty as well but I am trying to control my choice of word usage when angry which is quite often with these Godless, cowardly, communist turd munchers, driving the bus. :o)

Susan Clack's avatar

You are 💯 on this, Darby. Good on ya.

rolandttg's avatar

Love it. I have no problem suing words that make snowflakes melt.

rowantree's avatar

Kind of worried that this decision might create a precedent where if they can "prove" that a vaccine will protect others and not just the recipient then it will be able to be mandated... I'd like to have Jeff's thoughts on that. Anybody else thinking the same thing?

Based Florida Man's avatar

That does seem to be a danger.

G Harkness's avatar

When I think how angry and righteous I used to be about parents who refused to vaccinate their kids -this was before Covid....it's very embarrassing to me. Once I realized with Covid what they were doing, it took less than a split-second for me to realize it has likely been that way all along. Oh, the apologies I need to send out....

Double Mc's avatar

I am horrified at the number of vaccines given to today's babies. It absolutely must end.

Kelli's avatar

We can also start standing up for our pets and saying NO to all these recommended vaccines. Many of the human policy overeaches started w pet policies. Try traveling w an unvaccinated dog. Nearly all kennels, day cares, and many hotels, etc. require proof of vaccination. (Early test runs for vaccine passports!) Veterinary medicine is ALSO Rockefeller Medicine.

Momcat's avatar

exactly! no baby needs a hepb shot just to leave the hospital.

Laura Love's avatar

Yes! My thoughts exactly, Erin. COVID shot, HPV, and the flu shot at minimum are not vaccines by this definition as they do not prevent the spread of illness.

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Brilliant speech! The real pandemic is the woke mind virus. That drives all of the West’s psychotic behavior.

RU's avatar

Woke is just one denomination of the Cult of Science. The climate nut "scientists" are not woke, but they are just as much a part of that Cult. It's just bad, misguided science that is our primary problem, worldwide.

Jeff made the key point: Science is not a moral guide; it has absolutely nothing of value to add to decisions of morality. All it can do is test hypotheses as to what is "true" or not. And even then, it can only test physical properties in the shared phenomenal world. At best, it can provide but one type of input into decision-making.

And that is the key problem with "public health" as a discipline. Real public health decisions are moral decisions primarily - but also economic decisions, legal decisions, business decisions - not merely medical or "scientific" decisions.

Fla Mom's avatar

Once the big threats to public health were controlled (with clean water and food and effective sanitation), the only way to stay in business was to find the next 'biggest threat,' even if it wasn't a big threat, and here we are. John Snow removing the handle from the Broad Street water pump in London isn't remembered as a tyrannical move, but one that saved many lives, through his recognition, by collecting and mapping the data, that most cases of cholera centered on that common-use water pump.

Valerie's avatar

I came here to say the same thing.

Gemma Star's avatar

The Truth Virus affected all of you at the same time? 😉

Ellen W's avatar

Jeff, anyone… is there a link to the letter to the Church that you sent out? Would love to read it and I’m sure others would as well.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

I think there's a link waaaay down the page past the comments.

Julia Jones's avatar

Yes, I would like to read that letter, too.

Please share.

Reasonable Horses's avatar

I think there's a link waaaay down the page past the comments.

AJF's avatar

Incredible speech Jeff! I hope you received a standing ovation. Thank you so much for sharing ❣️

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Come now, you who say, “Today or tomorrow we will go to such and such a city, and spend a year there and engage in business and make a profit.” Yet you do not know what your life will be like tomorrow. You are a vapor that appears for a little while and then vanishes away. Instead, you ought to say, “If the Lord wills, we will live and also do this or that.”

— James 4:13-15 LSB

PamelaZelie's avatar

“My times are in your hands; deliver me from the hands of my enemies, from those who pursue me.”

Psalm 31:15

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

That is one of my favorites, especially the first part, given all my medical issues/mysteries. 🙏🏻🙌🏻

Robin Greer's avatar

Such a great reminder that as Proverbs 16:9 says, "A man plans his way, but the Lord directs his steps."

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

Yes I thought of that verse too! Such a humbling perspective for when we get too big for our britches.

Peter GL's avatar

In many cultures, including our own, 'God willing' was always added to a future event.

In western cultures, the secular has done away with that.

Muslims still say 'Insh allah'...aka: God willing.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I grew up in southwest Missouri hearing, “Lord willing and the creek don’t rise.”

St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I still use that one! One grandmother was from the Midwest, my other grandparents lived not too far from a river that is known to breach it's banks on a semi-regular basis. 😂🤣

Mrs. "the Knife"

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

I still say it too. My Oklahoma-born kids laugh about my "Hillbilly" sayings. :)

Peace's avatar

I'm still sporting that one with a minor addition, "Good Lord willing and the creek don't rise.

Politico Phil's avatar

WHERE IS DR. MERCOLA? He is MIA. His company and his foundation are under new management, his sister has been fired who helped found his company 40 years ago, he has ceased making videos, he has reversed many of his long standing health recommendations and his foundation has ceased their 15 year support of the anti-vaccine charity National Vaccine Information Center. And yet, through all this, Dr. Mercola is nowhere to be seen. The only person publicly representing the Mercola organization is someone called Kai, who claims to be a psychic who channels an "entity" called Bahlon, who is advising Mercola. Where is Mercola? Is he even alive? Why have all these changes taken place in his company and yet he is no where to be seen?

https://www.nvic.org/newsletter/may-2024/defending-freedom-of-religion

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Redux of Alex Jones type lawfare against Dr. Mercola?

Thanks for posting the weird happenings with Dr. Mercola.

Politico Phil's avatar

Mercola has been under attack since this whole thing started years ago. If you recall, he was identified by Biden as one of the "dirty dozen" that was spreading misinformation and should be deplatformed and cancelled. They de-banked him and closed his bank accounts. They tried to destroy his company and he fought them tooth-and-nail and they failed. I fear now they have come at him through other means and succeeded. The HUGE red flag is that since all these changes occurred, Mercola himself has not personally appeared. Where is he? The things that has been done do NOT fit with the Mercola we know. He fired his sister. Really? He reversed himself on carbs and is now recommending a carb loaded diet that would drive anyone into diabetes! This is not Mercola. He knows too much. For me to believe that he would recommend such a position goes against all logic. Mercola is smarter than that. And now a "psychic" that channels a demon is the only person speaking for him publicly??? No! This stinks to high heaven. I don't buy it for one second. What have they done with him?

Justin's avatar

One might look more broadly - there are a number of prominent people being taken out from their positions of influence in a wave of censorship. Silencing Bannon, Jones, Mercola, Trump, and others. The enemy is regrouping and taking out prominent people who can help organize an opposition to future plans. Just like what happened in 2021 when Media Matters publishes a hit piece that deplatformed a dozen prominent YouTube influencers over the course of two days.

Politico Phil's avatar

I believe you are exactly right. The ground is being prepared for their next assault on us.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Good points...I fear for his safety.

Kelli's avatar

Wonder if he got MK-Ultra'd?

Politico Phil's avatar

Good question. I always enjoyed the videos he did on a regular basis. They have suddenly ceased. Either he is dead or he is in no condition to be allowed in front of the public.

Cynthia Ford's avatar

I can't vouch for this substack author entirely, and I don't not vouch for him, but here's what Rounding the Earth wrote about what happened to Mercola

https://roundingtheearth.substack.com/p/mercolas-psychic-friends-network

Politico Phil's avatar

Thanks for the link. I think what is happening as an organized effort to discredit Mercola. Why is a psychic speaking for Mercola. Mercola can't speak for himself? When I see Mercola in person saying this is his position then I will believe what is being said. Where is he? Until then all of this is not legitimate in my opinion.

Joni's avatar

I don't trust him either!! Don't dare ask him questions about what he is writing or get into any dialogue he doesn't approve of!!! He'll blast you, block you and lie about you!!!! I had it happen on something very small that I asked him. So take what he publishes with a grain of salt! I've never had that happen on any substacks I participate in!!!!

Janet's avatar

Damn. I’d just found Dr M when all this craziness happened!

Joni's avatar

I know he has been under attack for sometime. Did they succeed? I am still getting their email, but will quit buying from this company until we get the truth. I’ve relied on him for years, but lately he is amending many of his prior beliefs, so maybe it isn’t him sending them. This is so frustrating. God be with him.

Politico Phil's avatar

This is the correct response.

Kathy's avatar

Please let me know which of his beliefs he is amending. It might give a clue as to what they are doing to him.

Politico Phil's avatar

I have lightly followed Mercola for decades but I don't pay a lot of attention otherwise. The change that first alerted me to something going on was his change on carbs a few weeks ago. Abandoning his KETO recommendation, "he" is now recommending a carb loaded diet that would destroy anyone's health and turn them diabetic. I instantly knew that could not be Mercola - unless he has been "captured".

Joni's avatar

Yes, that definitely alarmed me! I have bought some of his Keto books, so when I saw that I was commenting to myself…..are you crazy!!!!

Jan's avatar

Keto, lowcarb and such like IF starves your body and brain from the glucose the body and brain prefers. Science proves that. You aren’t really burning fat properly like you think and gluconeogenisis is using cortisol, adrenaline stress hormones to generate that glucose and leads to bad fat oxidation and insulin resistance long term. Think about it—stress hormones really needed for short term energy should not run your entire brain and body all the time. Degrades and shreds muscles, my thyroid went haywire, bones weaker, (2 surgeries for broken bones) metabolism on the floor and insulin resistance weight gain and more. I eat simple carbs like fruit and easily digested carbs. I’m not stuffing my face with bad carbs and especially bad seed oils. I’m probably over 200 carbs a day now. Decent amount of food. I feel much better, sleep great, more energy with these delicious fruit carbs. Nutritious carbs. Fats, even butter, b doesn’t really have much nutritional value beyond that but maybe Vit A. Fruit has a lot. Lustig is wrong too. Very wrong, but making plenty of money on those mice. Several gurus are now eating more carbs. Admitting the damage. Mercola woke me up to this. I’m grateful but it hasn’t been easy changing.

Jan's avatar

He’s put out recent stuff and videos. I’ve watched them. He put his archive back on line so not sure what the poster means. Yes, he has amended some of his recommendations. No longer low carb keto because he now understands that long term use of IF, low carb, keto, carnivore works fine for awhile and then causes metabolic and energy generating damage at the cell level, leading to down regulation of metabolism, thyroid, insulin resistance, weight gain and much more. I’m trying to reverse my damage from nearly 10 years of it. He has helped make me aware of all this. The trend is leveling out on all this plus former gurus are changing their tune. I don’t buy his products as I try to keep supplement use down.

Dcls's avatar

I agree, something is going on. I’m a long time supporter of him and NVIC. This development with NVIC is concerning..

Based Florida Man's avatar

My new position is "all the vita pills industry is complete BS". Until I find otherwise. Especially from the fancy expensive guys like Mercola. We know much of the sources are Chinese/India industrial chems, and then put into pills here to be labelled as 'made in America'.

CDC is corrupt. Our doctors are corrupt. Why do we trust the vita industry as we seek 'health in a pill'. 3rd party testers? Could be bought off. Let's investigate and ask questions!

Check: https://chemtrails.substack.com/p/wtf-how-vitamins-are-made-trust-me

Eat real food instead!

Politico Phil's avatar

I have used supplements for decades to great effect. However, I believe about 80% of all supplements are BS...just a guess. I have limited myself to a very few supplement companies, most notably Life Extension whose supplements have always proven to be first rate and they back it up with real science.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I stopped using Life extension a year before lockdown

They were putting silica in one & it upset my stomach. Pure encapsulation brand now. I’m very weak in autoimmune system from cirs and mold illness. I take extra olive leaf for the “shedding “that seemingly never ends.

Joni's avatar

I was using Pure Encapsulations as well, but they have been bought out by Nestle so I've been using up what I have and will review it further. It's so exasperating.

Joni's avatar

I’ve been modifying many of the supplements I take as so many companies have been bought out by Big Pharma or other corporations who have done questionable things! It’s so frustrating as I have been doing this almost 30 years and now the companies we trusted are being bought out. Although some of the prior owners have said they will stay involved, there is only so much these companies will let them do. Life Extension is one I am impressed with all the way around. They offer so much more than just supplements. It’s a well rounded company!

Kelli's avatar

Agreed, though I do take some supplements.

The core issue is, once again, looking for "salvation" in the material world. Whether looking to mainstream doctors or alternatives, it's still believing the world can save us. I advocate for finding one's Inner Voice (connection with God), and asking to be led to whatever is appropriate for any given situation. [Really liked that Tucker interview with new president of El Salvador ... similar theme...]

PamelaZelie's avatar

Frightening news. Many people trust Dr. Mercola’s advice.

ChrisB's avatar

His longtime partner, Erin Elizabeth, posted about this whole messy mess on Telegram, Feb 14. She asked for prayer for Joe and his family, as they are deeply concerned about him and the people he is now surrounding himself with.

Anne Clifton's avatar

Wow, this is really weird. He's been convinced he is a god and the new Jesus? He's fired Christians? I'm going to unsubscribe from his emails, which I haven't read for awhile anyway.

Politico Phil's avatar

That is what is being said about him...heresay. I believe what his happening right now is an attempt to de-legitimize Mercola. Whatever has been done with Mercola will eventually come out and they must prepare the ground work for his "demise".

Susan Seas's avatar

It’s terrible you never know if the “truth” about someone is coming out or a smear campaign 😭

Joni's avatar

I am with you about hearsay. So far we have no idea who is speaking for him and I do recall when he came out and advised us that he was being threatened as well as his family. I can see them coming in and destroying everything he worked for. The carb thing really was a red flag since I have bought some of his keto books and this was an huge change! I just deleted it and moved on. Something didn't seem normal at all. Just look what they are doing to President Trump. Then do a search for Dr. Mercola and there are all kinds of hit pieces on him by the leftists talking heads!

Robin Greer's avatar

Just speculating, but he may have been targeted for psychological warfare and perhaps had a breakdown. I noted that one of his last videos he was touting buying eggs only from a person who fed her chickens peas that had been cooked over a 24 hour period and he was paying $25 a dozen. It was really odd. That's not a natural diet for chickens.

Politico Phil's avatar

That is definitely one possibility.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I believe it’s by design, warping his mind and destroying his dependable business model.

Jan's avatar

I know, but he tipped me off to the damage of low carb and keto, fasting etc long term. Most of which I have or am experiencing. There is so much wrong after the initial good feeling or weight loss. Downhill health problems that don’t appear for a while. He’s always been super enthused and s bit hyper plus on the cutting edge. Just because he’s eating fruit now or sells supplements , doesn’t make him suspect. They all do. He admits his mistakes which you have to agree is pretty rare these days. He lists sources and references for each article. I have learned a lot. He has been attacked by all sides of power.

Robin Greer's avatar

Definitely can't permanently cut out certain food groups. Our bodies needs a variety of foods.

Dr Linda's avatar

I have notice a huge change for about a month. I have wondered what is going on.

Renea Buchholz's avatar

Thank you for bringing that up

Crixcyon's avatar

Maybe his site is now 100% A/I. I have lost faith in Mercola and don't always agree with him.

Robin Greer's avatar

I will probably never agree with any person 100% and I think that's healthy. No one has everything 100% correct except God.

Kathy's avatar

Oh my, that is disturbing. I hope he’s OK. I do know that he and his family were receiving death threats at one point, and I know the government did everything they could to stifle his company.

Kelli's avatar

I too am wondering what the heck happened. He is now aligned with some sort of psychic, has been making anti-christian comments, etc. It sounds like he went to the Dark Side?!

I asked a friend "Maybe he was MK-Ultra'd?!"

Rosalind McGill's avatar

He thinks the Catholic Church is evil now.

Robin Greer's avatar

That's what I had seen as well.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I love some of his products. worried about his business operation - he’s well known in Naples for the excellent service & he’s been hoodwinked!

Jeff Cook-Coyle's avatar

Yikes. I hadn't noticed that.

Margaret Anna Alice's avatar

Standing ovation, Jeff! 👏👏👏

“It became Science with a capital ’S’.”

And then it became The $cience™!

“Belief in capital-S Science required faith, not reason.”

🎯 I wrote something similar in my very first Substack post over three years ago:

“This ideological mass psychosis is religion—not science. If this were about science, the Media–Pharmaceutical–Big-Tech complex would not be memory-holing every dissenting voice, vilifying every thought criminal, and censoring every legitimate inquiry in quest of the truth.” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/a-primer-for-the-propagandized)

As Richard Feynman said, “I would rather have questions that cannot be answered than answers that cannot be questioned.”

I take issue with the following statement, though 😁

“This irrational train would shortly pass through the rabbit hole tunnel and arrive at an Alice in Wonderland station where the gift shop sells books like Anti-Racist Baby.”

As one of my favorite Apocaloptimists, Jeff, I think you will especially resonate with the piece I published yesterday, as will many C&C readers who are practitioners of Confront the Brutal Facts + Stockdale Paradox:

• “Against Defeatism: The Apocaloptimist Manifesto” (https://margaretannaalice.substack.com/p/against-defeatism-the-apocaloptimist)

P.S. Did you know C&C is #3 in Substack’s Top 25 list of Health Politics Substacks? 🏆

• https://substack.com/top/health-politics

It should be #1, but you’ll get there :-)

Maureen ODH's avatar

👆🏻🎯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 💗

Neil Kellen's avatar

Loved the homeowners association reference...the reason we will never buy property in a collective run by an HOA board. They take the saying "a little bit of power..." to an extreme.

Robin Greer's avatar

In the words of the Princess Bride modified: There are two things you should never do. First never get into a land war in Asia and second never get into a lawsuit with an HOA. I worked for a guy who wanted to develop some property. He's been in a lawsuit with the HOA for over 10 years. It's insane.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I counter sued my HOA several years ago and WON. How? The community was so disgusted with their actions against me, they voted out the majority of the board and ran for and won their seats. We then settled the suit amicably and peacefully. It can be done, but you have to have the community with you.

Kelli's avatar

Not to be devil's advocate or anything, but I've served on several HOA boards. The single biggest problem from a Board's perspective? >> People who buy property in an HOA and REFUSE to read the governing documents of the place before they sign. They move in, and want to do whatever they were doing in a private single-family home, or some other HOA. Everyone wants the "conveniences" of HOA living (landscaping and other needs handled for you, and often much more), but they also want the freedom to do whatever they want, no matter what they signed off on. You can't have your cake and eat it too (most of the time anyways.)

FourWinds's avatar

I worked for an HOA in the richest area of central Ohio. 90% of the residents had more money than common sense. The other 10% were pretty cool. I had to do these "welcome" speeches for new residents and I can't tell you the number of people who were shocked when I told them the rules. They HAD to sign a copy of those rules when they closed! It took everything I had not to ask them why the hell they didn't read it first.

Fla Mom's avatar

At one of our closings, we were reading everything carefully before signing. We delayed the rest of the day's schedule, because apparently almost no one reads them, so they schedule them with short time availability. As a college student, my friend and I read the rental lease for our apartment; the manager said we were the only ones he'd seen do that. My dad was a lawyer, so I was raised with that guidance.

Donna in MO's avatar

Thank you!! I was on my HOA board for 10 years, president for 5 of them. Our neighborhood is oldish, most houses built in the early 80's but our deed of restrictions has ensured that not only has our neighborhood kept its value, but actually makes it sought after with our pool, tennis courts, clubhouse and lots of neighborhood activities all maintained and organized by our volunteer board. One need only drive through the neighborhoods to the E and W of ours, that do not have an HOA, to see that there is some value. I 'get' that some HOA boards are petty tyrants and dictators but our restrictions are basically, 'you must maintain your property'. An occasional PITA-type person who occasionally landed on our board was voted out. If you want to let weeds over run your flower beds, have peeling paint on your house, and pile junk in your driveway, don't buy a house in our HOA.

Kelli's avatar

You nailed it!

My favorite scenario is when several "cost conscious" owners manage to get on a board. They then refuse all recommendations to raise fees and properly fund the reserves. Thus creating multiple cases of "deferred maintenance." They save money, sell their properties years later, and future owners get slammed with huge concrete, roofing, and other capital costs as assessments.

Neil Kellen's avatar

I'm sure there are a few reasonable ones...but I've never heard anyone say they are fine with their HOA. We once looked at a small property (11 acres) with a house in an HOA. When I read the agreement it was just short of "you must go to church o Sunday and we will install video cameras all over your property and in your house to make sure you comply". For property with acreage, the restrictions were insane.

RunningLogic's avatar

Well here’s a first for you then—I’m fine with mine. They were only a bit excessive about dandelions (for example) when the builders were still in control of it. Once it completely went over to the homeowners, after all the lots were sold, it became more relaxed and reasonable (even though it wasn’t bad before that).

Cynthia Ford's avatar

I've read that HOAs are where the mall cop petty tyrants concentrate. My mom's had total seizures over a planter in front of her condo. They wanted to dictate what color it could be painted, how often it should be painted, and how high the vegetation could be in it. Control freak centrals, though now many have no doubt migrated to the public health and DEI establishments.

Cathy's avatar

I have to speak up on behalf of Hoa’s. I’m on the board of ours simply for the reason NOONE ELSE WANTS TO DO IT. But let me tell you, EVERYONE WANTS TO COMPLAIN ABOUT YOU! My term expires in January and I’m done. If our development turns to crap, we’ll move.

Donna in MO's avatar

Yep, did 10 years. Work your butt off for zero pay and then get yelled at all the time. I stuck with it as we had a core group for many years that were great people who did what they said they would do, were conscientious and we all had a good sense of humor and had some fun with it.

Kelli's avatar

HOA board service has been called "The Worst Volunteer Position in American." Seriously - there is an article out there with that title. I think it's true.

One HOA topic I haven't seen discussed: Many people are worried about Blackrock and foreign investors buying up properties and turning them into rentals. It's happening in many neighborhoods. Yet, many HOAs (and most condo associations) prohibit rentals. Property owners scream about "my property rights," but their community is *protected* from the rental housing effect by those very same HOA documents. Seems that's worth something??

Neil Kellen's avatar

great movie with lots of great lines

Dr Linda's avatar

I loathe home owner associations. Power corrupts even in this level

FourWinds's avatar

When I bought my new house, that was my #1 rule. No HOAs, no "neighborhood associations", no one bothering me about how I live my life. If I want to paint the house purple and pink, I'm not asking anyone. Never good for a free spirit to go near those places.

Dr Linda's avatar

You are so right!! As free spirit I feel the same. I do try to be respectful though. Admittedly, I fall short. I am not going to live my life to please others. Those days ended when I was 15 (I got some sense of self)

carily myers's avatar

I live in a village in SC on Lake Moultrie. When I bought this house 26 yrs ago, the closing papers said that there was an HOA. I wanted to see the rules/fees, the closing attorney said "They don't have any". I've never been charged a fee and nobody's been elected to it in 26 yrs! Bliss.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

This is where politicians start. And then it’s on to town boards, and up and up. Every single one of them, almost to a man, want power over others. There is no other explanation. The altruistic politician, ended with George Washington.

Justin's avatar

I campaigned for an elected office because that approval board (above HOA's in that community) was out of control and beat all the incumbents. I said I would clean up the approval group and did. One of the first, a real estate agent, suddenly retired after 18 years. A few hung on more tenaciously. I highlighted some of their shenanigans and supported homeowners vigorously in an effort to allow more roofing options in. One of the group members was a little too cozy with some roofing contractors. I went "undercover" at a factory training class for the new roofing materials to understand this lightweight alternative, see how it looked, etc. I liked it so much I put it on my previously cedar shingled roof because stone was too heavy for that roof. (installed it myself too) Stone coated steel for those that are interested. Textured and formed to look like stone tiles.

RunningLogic's avatar

We always hear about the terrible ones though because people don’t talk about the ones that are not problematic.

Dr Linda's avatar

Heavy sigh, you’re probably right

CathyRN's avatar

HOA’s can be a pain - ours is pretty relaxed.

Our friends without HOA built a house then the Clampits moved in next door. They can’t enjoy sitting in their back yard.

RunningLogic's avatar

Same here. Ours is relaxed and just keeps things from getting out of hand. For example we voted to limit rentals to avoid big companies coming in and buying houses to rent out. It’s a great neighborhood with mostly nice respectful people and the few issues get handled in a reasonable way.

Donna in MO's avatar

Yes, we were able to vote in restrictions on rentals a few years ago - when I was on the board our lawyer told us that case law precedents in our state made that all but impossible. But after I left the board, they consulted a different lawyer who did put together wording that he thought would survive a challenge and it passed by the neighborhood vote by a large margin. We had to 'grandfather in' existing rentals but effective 1/1/2022 no one can buy a house in order to rent it out. So far has not been challenged. Out of 374 homes, about 25 of them are rentals, and those landlords and/or their tenants are about 80% of the problems our board has to deal with. You can tell the rentals from the owned just by driving the neighborhood, corporate landlords do the bare minimum and only fix things when they get a letter from us.

Susan Seas's avatar

Ours isn’t too bad. No one has 17 cars parked in their front yard like a friend who isn’t in an HOA. It’s can be tuff without one too 😬

Help Needed in KS's avatar

But, but, but...Them Clampits wuz rich! And Granny

would whip you up some possum stew anytime you'd like!

Dr Linda's avatar

I’m in the same boat. My house was here before the HOA. Do you want to join? Hell, no!!

RunningLogic's avatar

I live in one and ours is actually completely reasonable. But I get it that the “power” goes to too many people’s heads and they get crazy 😕

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Based Florida Man's avatar

"HOAs are now enforcing vaxxine mandates, and How That's A Good Thing"

CaliforniaLost's avatar

6 months later, same paper, headline reads, "HOA Boards Decimated by Heart Attacks brought on by people not paying their fines"

Hannahlehigh's avatar

I can't believe it took a court case to prove the "vaccines" aren't actually "vaccines" has everyone been living under a rock, although I do understand why the court case happened, Im just amazed why the entire "covid" scam wasn't shut down years ago, there are millions upon millions of dead and at least 2 billion injured from the "vaccines" that aren't really "vaccines" I believe once the demons found a way to get filthy rich they decided they're never going to stop using this recipe, mRNA bioweapons for all, no matter what until the end of time or Jesus returns and shut them down.

RSgva's avatar

Yes. To understand the collusion I suggest reading the first 50 pages of RFK’s latest book, the Wuhan coverup, which lays out the historic 75 year symbiotic relationship between our universities, the Pharma industry, our military and the CIA – – which incorporated the techniques they learned from Japanese and German biomedical warfare, a.k.a. war criminals who were “saved“ through operation paperclip.

WP William's avatar

Courts are just a long uphill part treadmill, part ramp/chute out of the stock pen that one plods through with one exit into the slaughter house and the other exit ramp leading right back into the same dusty, manure-strewn pen you were previously milling about in.

Satchmo RIP's avatar

‘Government’ has had 4 years to step up. We have more data now than ever, a preponderance, that shows corruption, working with a foreign enemy, breaking laws, manipulation, etc.. no one is in jail or hung. Millions dead and injured. We have no legitimate government of, by, and for the people. Not local, state or federal. Their Christianity is hollow while their bank accounts are bursting.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

VA still offering the covid DeathVax to veterans with an "additional dose" for veterans 65 years and older.

"giving veterans one more chance to die for their country"

Saylor Sherman's avatar

My daughter’s 9 year old friend at summer camp left early yesterday to get a vaccine. My daughter asked her why she’s getting a vaccine and she said, my mom said there’s a new disease going around and it will keep me safe. My child said most of her friends looked shocked and said nothing. We know most the families and they are all against it. Sad for this girl.

FourWinds's avatar

And that girl's stupid parents won't understand when she drops dead or gets very ill, of course hoping that does not happen.

Julie Ann B's avatar

This makes me so sad and disgusted. Our veterans should be treated like heroes not lab rats that you experiment on.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Those are no Christians. They only imitate in words yammering for vain glory.

WP William's avatar

ChINOs? Hey, pay taxes, honor the Emperor...turn the cheek, and Don't Judge! Oh yeah and Love everybody, and there is no Hell or eternal consequences so Live it Up while you can, the Good Guy in the Sky will make it all ok! Fly your Freak Flag and walk whatever path you want on life's journey. The Gospel according to Dude, and Dude's Letter to the Bros.

Roger Beal's avatar

You just described "carnal Christianity", the latest label for the Osteen & Associates scam.

Chris Kanon's avatar

Yeah but remember the savings and loans fallout, as I recall around 900 people were prosecuted. Then we had the 2007-2008 financial crisis and afaik zero prosecutions. So the rot has been in for a while

GreyCat's avatar

Jeffrey, your post about ‘science’ being deranged by a Spirit of Fear really hits the nail on the head. I relished reading this entire post about the pandemic and would like to share (with credit to its author, of course) if you don’t mind. That said, I am really interested in reading your original post which caused you to be canceled by every platform in one day. Where might I find that article, please? Lastly, I can’t begin to express how much I enjoy reading your daily C & C News posts…I look so forward to them every morning…except for Sundays 😔…but I guess you do deserve a day off…

Jamison's avatar

Those who are paying subscribers get a Sunday post.

Gigi2525's avatar

Agreed! The date of the 2021 post Jeff referred to would help for searching his Substack. I hope he replies!

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Gov. DeSantis, it is time for you to step up and declare covid death shots a bioweapon.

Unless you are beholden to Big pHarma and the WEF.

"Dr. Boyle provided this affidavit in a Florida case involving an Emergency Petition for a Writ of Mandamus that seeks to compel Governor DeSantis to prohibit the distribution of ‘COVID 19 injections’, ‘COVID 19 nanoparticle injections’, and ‘mRNA nanoparticle injections’, in the state of Florida. It also seeks to compel Attorney General Ashley Moody to confiscate the vials."

https://miamiindependent.com/law-professor-who-wrote-1989-biological-weapons-antiterrorism-act-provides-affidavit-that-covid-19-mrna-nanoparticle-injections-are-weapons-of-mass-destruction/

STH's avatar

Maybe he’s waiting until Trump gets in? He probably doesn’t want to do anything that could be used against him.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

That, is not my definition of courage.

Oh Susanna's avatar

Good reminder, Jeff. I have long thought the covid fraud was diabolically spiritual in origin as nothing else can explain how nearly universal it was and the fanatic blindness of its adherents. All of whom, in my personal experience, are also stubbornly blind to the Gospel.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

That includes the church. Apparently they forgot the gospel....and the constitution during the plandemic.

I'm not being a jerk, but I think it's fair to say MANY Christians need to take a long look in the mirror.

They need to learn that the next time they will strip you naked leaving you with nothing but a mask.

Oh Susanna's avatar

True, but to be honest I believe that the majority of "Christians" are not actually born again, saved, Spirit-filled believers, particularly in Western countries where it doesn't cost much to go to church. That may sound provocative or controversial, but I firmly believe that even in the "church" God's people are a remnant. Probably more true for some churches than others.

Robin Greer's avatar

So true. “Enter through the narrow gate. For wide is the gate and broad is the road that leads to destruction, and many enter through it. But small is the gate and narrow the road that leads to life, and only a few find it." Matthew 7:13-14

RJ Rambler's avatar

Saved IS Spirit filled. To make those things two parts is to judge one VS the other as though they can exist independently and they can NOT! The Son and The Spirit are ONE.

Oh Susanna's avatar

Not sure how you're reading my comment, but we're not in disagreement.

Roger Beal's avatar

There is a new b*llsh*t label for the folks you describe: Carnal Christians. Their mantra is, "I'm already saved so I can do what I like without fear of losing my salvation". These folks have never taken Paul's words in Romans to heart. They also do not understand that every one of our ongoing sins is another burden placed on Jesus' crucified body.

Oh Susanna's avatar

Those folks will be sadly surprised when meeting God if they don't wake up first. Sadly it seems to be endemic in American churches.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I love the name of your stack btw

Robin Greer's avatar

You can't lump all churches or people who attend church together. I was disappointed with some but others held the line and didn't succumb to the tyranny.

Ryan Gardner's avatar

I agree. What percentage do you think took a stand of any meaningful impact?

I only know of a few. I didn't come across one before moving to Florida in May of 20'.

Maybe the gospel only applies in Florida.

It's okay to criticize the church. Same with the government.

In fact isn't that one of the main reasons the Lord sent his son?

RJ Rambler's avatar

We led our church out of deception without the Pastor AFTER the FIRST WEEK. Then they let us go after the Pastor was all 💉 straight and unmasked after a year and a half. And we RAN! Now at a church that fell for ONLY a month and split. Was there even ONE church that didn't split? The wheat and chafing was real and brutal. NEEDED!! But there is MORE WORK to be done! Pray that the Lord of the harvest will bring more workers! 🙏🏻

Robin Greer's avatar

On a separate note, the main reason the Son was sent was to die for the sins of those who put their faith in him. Part of the process was to expose the religious hypocrites who put unnecessary burdens on the people. He (the Father) made Him (the Son) who knew no sin, to be sin for us, that we might become the righteousness of God in Him (the Son). 2 Corinthians 5:21

Robin Greer's avatar

That's an interesting question. Unfortunately, I would guess there were probably more that went along with the tyranny than did not. And yes there's definitely room for criticism of the church. I just don't like blanket stereotypes.

WP William's avatar

I'm only aware of a mere handful of Full Gospel, Non-Denominational, and Fundamental churches that stood against the mal-governing authorities' overreach based on mis and dis information; the Adversaries are carefully studying how to counter and break them all at the next opportunity. We should study the Global Church and other Religious responses to the Lockdowns/Masking/Vaxxing Fraud pushed and either swallowed or defeated by those who fought back. The Fake Church of the Global Secular State demands compliance and fealty as the head of the pantheon of gods. How the LDS, JWs, Muhammadans, and many others were infiltrated and swayed by the CoVid Cult is also a lesson to be studied. And let's be real; CoVid bioweapon flu did spread easily and did sicken and kill Christians who ignored the shut-downs and spacing/masking/vaxxing. It also killed Christians who complied with all of those things as well.

Roger Beal's avatar

Some PCA churches ignored the mandates and continued services, albeit with the six foot spacing between participants. During the first few weeks of the plandemic, none of the congregants came to church, out of fear (not because they were pushed away by our pastor). The service attendees were our pastor, his wife, my wife, and me (streaming video to the folks at home).

Ryan Gardner's avatar

That's right WP. you nailed it.

Rosalind McGill's avatar

My estranged daughter in law is a “ Christian “. She visited at Christmas. I think she used my very expensive nasal spray prescription for brain damage. I have had tremors since. She’s jabbed. Her church encouraged it. I told my husband she can’t stay here next time because she’s vaccinated and shedding.

She’s also been “ cured “ of her bipolar disorder according to her. I saw things differently! Verbally abusive to her husband and ignored( iPad for a 3 year old) her adopted daughter unless she was showing her off

Ryan Gardner's avatar

that's awful Rosalind. STAY STRONG!

Rosalind McGill's avatar

I found a Christian counselor, short term, since she is determined to move to the area. She wanted to park her camper in the driveway while she has a house built. I can’t do that. Our house is accommodating my chronic inflammatory response syndrome . She has no idea what her father has done to accommodate my healing. & she destroyed so much progress in her ignorance and greed. It’s a challenge to handle it since i haven’t been able to forgive her yet. Forgiveness is crucial in my walk with Jesus.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Yes. Pathetic witnesses. They don't seem to be self reflecting though.

PRIDE

ChrisB's avatar

Agree! Talk about the Powers and Principalities at work! There is definitely a supernatural war being waged, and the last 4 years revealed who would align with the darkness. I have trust issues now, as I'm sure do millions of us who saw through this endless mindf×ck.

RJ Rambler's avatar

And he that sitteth on the throne said, Behold, I make all things new. And he saith, Write: for these words are faithful and true. And he said unto me, They are come to pass. I am the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end. I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life freely. He that overcometh shall inherit these things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son. But for the fearful, and unbelieving, and abominable, and murderers, and fornicators, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, their part shall be in the lake that burneth with fire and brimstone; which is the second death. Revelation 21:5-8

For God sent not the Son into the world to judge the world; but that the world should be saved through him. He that believeth on him is not judged: he that believeth not hath been judged already, because he hath not believed on the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the judgment, that the light is come into the world, and men loved the darkness rather than the light; for their works were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, and cometh not to the light, lest his works should be reproved. But he that doeth the truth cometh to the light, that his works may be made manifest, that they have been wrought in God. John 3:17-19 please read the whole chapter. Ask God to show you His truth. Don't trust men but the Spirit that agitates your natural inclinations for interpretation.

Laurence Zensinger's avatar

Great post. Put science back in its place, 9th circuit ruling truly is earth shattering. So-called vaccine was always just a medical treatment.

Olefaithfull's avatar

Read the patent. It is not a vaccine.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

Yes. Read the SEC filings. It's an experimental gene therapy.

WP William's avatar

A FAKE medical treatment that was actually an injurious substance for sterilization, death, and long-term harm.

carily myers's avatar

Love this! Great comment

Ryan Gardner's avatar

Great article Jeff.

The threat of THE SCIENCE is much larger than just the warped "belief" system infused with morality trick-boxes they unleashed during the plandemic.

It WILL be used again (pandemic or otherwise) .

Why?

The Unholy Trinity of Fear:

1. Fear of losing power by those who wield it

2. Fear of those who are subject to it (reprisal or losing a "benefit/privilege")

3. Fear of those who's livelihood is beholden and justified by those who wield the power (bureaucrats, technocrats, etc.)

Fear of losing something is just as powerful as gaining something - if not more so. So strong it will launch a thousand hideous ships of terror.

Fear will corrupt to the core; even those who's fear is caused by the scourge of power.

And herein lies the real threat:

How we came to two generations that take climate change as unquestionable gospel.

I wonder who would be a bigger zealot in an imaginary crisis:

Someone who thinks you killed grandma or someone who thinks you're killing mother earth?

The level of cruelty that can be justified when people believe in a "moral" crusade is boundless because the beast inside is no longer burdened with the boundaries of empathy.

There is nothing so dangerous as a person or group who believe the ultimate testament of their fidelity to a righteous cause requires acts of cruelty to demonstrate their purity.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Well met, Ryan! Damn. And here in America, the only nation on earth disbarring the government from disarming the free people, they ought to be fearful.

JW's avatar

My daughter who is almost 50 decided recently to go back to college for her PhD. They asked for her vaccination records! She told them she did not have them and they suggested she look in her baby book for details or she will have to get revaccinated before attending. Crazy since most of her classes were online. She told them that she will attend school elsewhere.

Oregon Kathy's avatar

Someone needs to legally challenge these schools. At least adult schools, where childhood illnesses aren't an issue.

Peace's avatar

Or she could attempt a religious exemption. Make 'em squirm a bit, having those darned unvaxxed people on campus.

CH's avatar

The powers that be want us all to put our faith in science because the government is God in communism. There is a reason why communists outlaw religion when they take over. The people they are trying to control cannot be ruled over if they believe in any other God besides the government. Our government is now loaded with communism and we must fight it in every possible way if our republic is to survive.

RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

Religion is always a threat to totalitarians unless they use it as a control tool like they do in Islamic countries.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

And then their "science" becomes Lysenkoism. LOL