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Based Florida Man's avatar

I wonder why drag queens never want to read to people in old age homes?

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TriTorch's avatar

"Ask not why the children shouldn't see drag queens; ask why drag queens crave an audience of children."

Edited to add, here one reason, former president of drag queen story hour charged with seven counts of child pornography: https://tritorch.com/drag

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Too true. I don't see children asking for them. Even clowns - back in the day lots of my friends didn't want them and were creeped out by them.

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Cowgirl Dee's avatar

I work in elementary school. The kids hate clowns. The face paint scares them. Clown jokes and antics are and always were for adults.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

We miss this great point. So right. The birthday parties, with clowns and adult level humor and silliness, is not understood by a 7 year old. I wonder, with anguish what the young survivors of these past several years will find out about themselves in the years and months, ahead School administrators and yes, the paid perverts……just thinking about them and what they are getting away with, makes me sick Like those who apply for jobs where they can wear uniforms, and control others, many who apply to be around children have their own sick reasons for doing so…..i was twice a Big Sister for two different 12 yr old girls, a rich time of friendship. Wish I could have done more. I wouldn’t take on that now.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Absolutely. Once they have time to ponder, they will realize how little their safety, both psychologically and physically, was cared for.

Later Jay

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Willing Spirit's avatar

The media appeared to run a campaign guaranteed to cause children to be terrified of clowns, starting about three decades ago. They did it with dolls too.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Drag Queens are very clownish so I would think parents have to work very hard to sell their children on the idea of being around them.

Probably requires series bribes. These are some sicko parents in desperate need of virtue signaling points.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Serious bribes

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It was the Twilight Zone who scared me! And yes, the only dolls I liked were Barbie and Troll dolls, and I hated clowns.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

I too was terrified of clowns … I was little but they were towering over little ones at the circus and in your face. Here’s the thing though. They are covering their faces with make up and significantly altering their appearance not dissimilar to wearing a mask I suppose. Kind of a cowardly way to scare the hec out of anyone let alone children all the while insisting it’s entertainment. It’s show biz zare.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

It is so bizarre! 🤔 What also was bizarre were my last months in the retail jewelry biz. Never in my career would someone be allowed in a jewelry store wearing a mask. Same thing with banks, yet they were mandated. I was planning to retire anyway in 2020, luckily.

One woman had hearing problems and asked me to take off my mask, I gladly pulled mine off. It was much harder trying to ā€˜read’ people too. Sales and design are very emotion-driven, it was tough with masks. I guess masks were traumatizing for rape and abuse victims too.

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Cowgirl Dee's avatar

The only clown I laughed at, when young, was being chased by an enraged rodeo bull after nearly trampling a fallen cowboy.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

Yep. Virtue wears a veil, vice wears a mask.

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AngelaK's avatar

Twilight Zone was seriously scary!

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Anja's avatar

Then at almost 50 I am still a kid šŸ˜‚

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

I still dislike clowns dating back to when one scared the sh*t out of me as a kid. I keep thinking of 'Crazy Joe' Devola dressed as Canio from Pagliacci in that classic Seinfeld episode.

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AngelaK's avatar

Is anyone else old enough to remember Bozo the Clown? I dont remember being scared of him.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Yes, I remember Bozo the clown. I couldn’t stand him. He was hideous, ugly and scary.

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Austin's avatar

I have an ex JUST like that!!!

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CPK (Charles Kalina)'s avatar

Fashion statement for woke Moms, I think. Cheap and easy status-signaling: "I am a sophisticated person, not the sort of lower-class yahoo who would get upset by this."

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Gaye's avatar

Exactly! Now it’s time for a designer make alternative ā€œtuckableā€ clothing so it’s not just ā€œstem and berriesā€ that gets tucked. HOW ABOUT TUCKING YOUR FAKE VIRTUE?!

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Annie's avatar

Clowns aren't as scary as those drag queens. Pennywise would have run screaming from them. Or perhaps he recognized a kindred evil spirit. They all prey on children.

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Anja's avatar

Clowns do creep me out, too. There is this thing in Germany in some hospitals: clinic clowns. They are supposed to visit sick children in hospitals and make them laugh. I always had to imagine lying there myself and some creepy clown comes up to me. Horrible!

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Dr Linda's avatar

I still am

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Jay Horton's avatar

Roman! I am 63 and still creeped out by them so there is that.

Later Jay

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

So you see, the survey says: more people creeped out by clowns than not.

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Gregg Keyes's avatar

their Motto has always been; Get them before 8 ( age ) or it's too late. Next ? Why is public education SSSOOOOO into promoting this? Don't they have academics to tend to?

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Seeking Grace's avatar

Test scores would indicate that they *should* be tending to academics, but they’re definitely not.

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Gregg Keyes's avatar

America ranks about 26th in the world in Academics. And has been at that level for YEARS. Yet we never hear them address that. But they have time & $$$ to submerge themselves into skin colors, gender discoveries and anti 'whatever crosses their minds' . So if I wanted to destroy a nation without going to war, I would do........what is being done.

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TriTorch's avatar

It is on purpose. Educated and experienced critical thinkers make for poor slaves. Old ways of thinking have to be eradicated. You may find these videos worth your time:

CRT Removes the Reason to Try, This is Not Theoretical – Black Lawyer Excoriates Critical Race Theory [2mins] https://bitchute.com/video/DaS25FLR8ktR

Incredible Breakdown of How the WEF is Using A Two Pronged Vanguard of ESG from the Top Down and Abusive Emotional Schooling from the Bottom Up to Demoralize Everyone into Demanding a New World Order [8mins]: https://bitchute.com/video/vS0ykC9Y20Vt

We’ve reached a tipping point where reality is going to abruptly shift for the worse if we continue to do nothing. The fulcrum of this tipping point is the control the elites now have over the minds of the children. While parents were going through their day to day, oblivious, Common Core and CRT – rotting cancers of mass manipulation – have overrun the schools and have been planting tangled dark jungles of subversive dysfunction directly into their kids' defenseless minds. The following is from 2013. It is faaar worse now:

https://youtu.be/FSHoxWaVeto [11mins]

That ^ is called abusive emotional learning. It deliberately dis-empowers the student and shifts their mind into a victim mentality. Rather than empowering and teaching them to pull themselves up by their own bootstraps, it instead instructs them that they are the victims of an oppressive system, and as a result there is no reason to even try to succeed - and every reason to lie, defraud, and manipulate the "unfair" system to their advantage. They want dependent slaves.

ā€œThe predominant value system of an entire culture can be overturned in one generation, or certainly in two, by those with unlimited access to children.ā€ -Dr. James Dobson

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

It is even worse than that. If we go with the hypothesis that they've been up to this in a stealth Trojan Horse way for decades, a lot of things make sense. 1986, no liability for vaccines, then later No Child Left Behind and standardized testing, which made teachers have to teach to the test AND got rid of recess, which is crucial for development and sensory integration, AND stopped using phonics, which creates literacy and replaced it with whole language, which doesn't work to teach literacy. Then the secret social media algorithm change in 2014 as described by Jaron Lanier. Then, even in preschool, the gender thing, and no playing, which is vital. Now, check out the Whole Child Design creepoid WEF disgusting plan, which Jordan Peterson was retweeting. Who "designs" children? This is pedophilia and transhumanism. Hey, teacher, leave those kids alone!!!!!! https://turnaroundusa.org/toolbox/wcdesign/ (I don't think clowns are the same as boundariless, narcissistic, pedophilic exhibitionist fat people who want to groom children, though)

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TriTorch's avatar

All good points. Designing children...how Luciferian. The world gets more depraved by the day. The content of this link and the comments may interest you Cynthia, Mr. Droz is a friend of mine:

https://criticallythinking.substack.com/p/the-foulness-of-social-emotional

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Ali's avatar

So no surprise that the designer Target partnered with may also be a Satanist. I need to do some research on that. Apparently, Satan loves trans people? This is my first day on here. I'll have to look up a lot of links. Thank you for the information.

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Aria Veritas's avatar

Satan is the lowest nature of man. The highest nature of man is True Man, where he is a humanist and aims for universal knowledge.

The transgender theme-park we're going through right now is an astrological meme: we enter Aquarius (that's an esoteric joke in itself- Aquarius is also known as Ganymede- a beautiful male that Zeus wants to... have); the priest class is giving us the full show.

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Gram's avatar

I'm not an expert, but I've heard that Satan and all fallen angels are desperate for the experience of having a human body, which they were denied when choosing to follow Satan. They are lingering in the

Spiritual Realm, waiting to slip into a body that is 'vacant' of a soul, as during drug trips, extreme states of fear, or anger, during gender dysphoria.

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Gregg Keyes's avatar

Thank you, I'll look those links up & read them.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Great video.

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

After donating X million dollars to the federal government earmarked for a Department of Education, John D. Rockefeller said:

"I don't want a nation of thinkers! I want a nation of workers"

Just smart enough to run the machine of their boss' coice, but not smart enough for independent thinking.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Just think how much better off we'd all be if Rockefeller Sr. had of used a condom on that magical night....

Later Jay

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GreaterIsrahell's avatar

You mean John D.'s father, the snake oil salesman, right? The problem is we'd still have the Rothschilds and several other families to worry about.

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Jay Horton's avatar

But, ended up with neither, as a whole -although there are shining examples. I work with PhD candidates and Post-Docs in physics so I get to see a completely different side and I am sure there are more out there; not that everyone has to operate at that level of intellectual involvement but putting a modicum of effort in....

Later Jay

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RU's avatar

+1000. We spend near the top of the world per student per year (5th) and get some of the worst outcomes of the developed world. A recent study of Baltimore's schools found not one child across 23 schools could do math at proficiency. Not even one! $14,400 per student (on avg) per year is being completely incinerated by the public school system.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Which is why I laugh when people wring their hands about parents homeschooling their children not teaching them enough šŸ™„ Clearly the abject failure of so many public schools to educate children in the absolute basics doesn’t dissuade these same people from supporting public schools and wanting to throw larger and larger amounts of money at them šŸ™„ For outcomes that end up not being any better.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

Provide a classical education for your children via private school or homeschooling.

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Roger Beal's avatar

And that Champion of Unionized Teachers, Randi Weingarten, is a paid consultant to the Democrat Party, and has time and motivation to fly to Ukraine.

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Gregg Keyes's avatar

realize also, that the Communist Party USA boasted a few yrs ago of their fine and dandy working relationship with the Teachers Union, among others. I read that in one of their weekly newsletters I subscribe to so I can see next weeks talking points by the Dems.

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Jay Horton's avatar

ā€œIf you know the enemy and know yourself, you need not fear the result of a hundred battles. If you know yourself but not the enemy, for every victory gained you will also suffer a defeat. If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle.ā€

― Sun Tzu, The Art of War

Later Jay

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Roger Beal's avatar

You are wise, following the other team's blogs.

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AJF's avatar

Also wondering just what "stories" are being read?

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TriTorch's avatar

Check out the presentation on this one: https://tritorch.com/drag2

Not that anyone would actually want to read this, but here is how unspeakable and grotesque the predators of these children have become: https://tritorch.com/predator They are destroying society at its base level: the next generation. Things were left out of that article because they were too sick to include.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That is so disgusting and evil!!

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Emumundo's avatar

That second video was disgusting and eye opening. So, in California it’s legal to have oral and anal sex with a minor if the age difference is within 10 years? A 19 year old can have relations with a 9 year old? These people are sick f@#ks. And they need to be stopped! Prison, medication , whatever it takes. I love how none of these items talks about harm to our children. Mind boggling and EVIL.

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RunningLogic's avatar

You can just see with people who have been abused as children, how many issues it causes for them as they get older, and how some turn to drugs and/or promiscuity to deaden their pain or because they feel they are only worth something if they provide sex šŸ˜•

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TriTorch's avatar

And they tend to become predators themselves, which is a big part of it. They are trying to corrupt everything and turn the world into hell on earth. Sodom and Gomorrah 2.0 here we come.

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TriTorch's avatar

Agree 100%. We need them to send them straight to hell, immediately. They're going there anyway, let's help them on their way.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Seriously, tritorch - wtf is that ?!

As RunningLogic says - "disgusting and evil"

................ " so don't judge people just because I wanna have sex with a 5 year old " ??? "MAPs" - Minor Attracted Persons ???

- and so much more craziness. wow. not the first time seeing crap like this - but ..... yeah, I think it's good that some of the more "grotesque" pieces were left on the cutting room floor.

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TriTorch's avatar

Know thine enemy. We need to know what we are up against, and face it head on, in order to stop it. If you had a hard time reading it, just imagine what writing it was like.

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OnTheJump's avatar

Yep, no doubt.

Few things in life make me angrier than 'stuff' like this.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

I read them all and now I need a shower. Blechhh

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OnTheJump's avatar

You can't UN-SEE that craziness, right?

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Connie Benn's avatar

I looked up the list a while back on the NYC DQSH website. I suspect they read a few normal books, but include many lightly veiled books about LGBTQ topics. https://www.dshnyc.org/book-list

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Jay Horton's avatar

Connie,

Sometimes it's not the message, it's the messenger. The psychological manipulation is the trap.

Later Jay

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Grandma Bear's avatar

"The Hips on The Drag Queen Go Swish, Swish, Swish" doesn't look very lightly veiled to me, lol! I suspect if we got to look into a few of the books on that list, the veil would become pretty transparent.

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FourWinds's avatar

I'd lay money on porn.

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Chevrus's avatar

Ok now THAT needs to get multiplied!!

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TriTorch's avatar

Excellent! Also, thanks for the link

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MaryAnn's avatar

Dressing in drag is pretending—men dressed as women and prob looks like Halloween to kids, imo. But then they introduce perversion and kids know the line was crossed. I went to a drag bar once many years ago. The performers were caricatures of women. I came away feeling sorry for them.

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Sheri veley's avatar

I think this is the guy married to a guy, and they have 2 adopted boys. Where I live (WI), this did actually happen.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Happened in GA also.

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Jacquie's avatar

Cause you can’t groom old people.

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Jacquie's avatar

And they may just beat you up with their canes for reading something so nasty.

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Jaci's avatar

Most old people were raised in church and have higher morals and ethics than non believers. Most children today are not raised with any beliefs except the world revolves around them. Those raised in the 50's are the only ones left that understand the joy of not having the media and government intruding on every facet of life.

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

It could make for a hilarious SNL skit! 🤣🤣🤣

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RunningLogic's avatar

If they ever go back to being funny and not pushing a political agenda that is šŸ˜•

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Now there’s something I’d pay to see!

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PamelaZelie's avatar

I hope so, Jacquie. :)

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Annie's avatar

At least not how they define grooming.

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Dulcy Reck's avatar

Of course you can. Maybe not sexually, but in 2020, the media did a great job of grooming old people into being terrified of their own offspring and shunning their grandkids for fear of being killed by them.

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FourWinds's avatar

Yep, you nailed that!

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Oh I know, so stuck in their ways. ;-)

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Seeking Grace's avatar

I like to apply the ā€œwhat would Martians think if they popped down for a visitā€ rule. As in, looked at separately and objectively from any sort of ideology or cultural influence, what would another being think of the situation? I applied it frequently during the pandemic. And every single time, the answer is that it’s ALL KINDS of messed up. There is absolutely no justification for drag performers reading to children. None. And you don’t have to be a Martian to see it!

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Annie's avatar

They're pedophiles.

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RU's avatar

Been saying it for years. The entire gender theory / queer theory academic discipline from which all this stems is nothing more than an elaborate attempt by perverted academics to justify their perversion. The guy who was at the center of it all was a famous "public intellectual" and professor named Michel Foucault. He was an open pedophile. His friends knew this and even wrote about it after he had died. The entire theory is nothing more than him trying to justify why it's okay to be a pedophile (not unlike Marxism being nothing more than Marx's attempt to justify his lifelong laziness and grift of family). And now, 50 years later, it's being mainstreamed.

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NoWay's avatar

I think so now too. It public fetish-ism that they want accepted.

That video/podcast by Allie Beth really enlightened me. I see it all now. Pedophiles and public fetish is the whole trans and drag queen movement.

I just want to know why there are so many pedophiles, and why are so many of the the super rich so deviant and evil?

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Annie's avatar

It's evil for sure.

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Grandma Bear's avatar

It's even worse than we imagine. This interview was an eye-opener for me. https://youtu.be/Cu3u5JrtA7M

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OnTheJump's avatar

WHY, I can not figure out, do Woke Lefties fail to understand just why this might be considered (as we do, here) quite strange, and unacceptable?

The 1st Amendment applies to Drag Queens and Trans folks, as they see it ........... but NOT to one questioning questionable policy decisions and seeking to protect Bodily Autonomy/Informed Consent?

Beam me up, Scottie.

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RU's avatar

I mean a couple things come to mind: 1) they're usually young, college-aged kids who don't have any life experience outside of school, do exactly what their teachers tell them to do, and quite literally cannot think for themselves. They also don't have children of their own, so they have no idea how these things work. 2) the ones who are older are mentally ill. In a lot of cases, that's kind of obvious via their affect and demeanor, but I believe even the stats from studies done have shown this. Leftists tend to have more, and deeper, psychological issues.

But, we now have a mainstream media, mainstream governmental agencies, and large corporations, suddenly, almost out of nowhere, pushing this obscure 1970s academic "theory" from Humanities sub-disciplines that no one ever took seriously. Wonder why that is. The theories are organic in nature, but the recent ascent of those theories into the mainstream, public realm does not seem to be organic.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

It’s their entitlement and brattiness that brings me down and makes me so frustrated. Never had the jab, but seeing what passes for today’s culture gives me fits

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RU's avatar

It's weird, right? Trans activists also seem to go into teaching elementary school WAY more often than just about any other occupation. It's almost like the whole thing is about, idk, grooming kids or something. Like, maybe they're compelled to take out their own childhood psychological issues on other kids. Maybe even guided in that direction.

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M. Dowrick's avatar

Drag queens are entertainers. Entertainers who belong in bars frequented by those who enjoy drag shows. That is it.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

I am of the consenting adults old school of liberalism for adults, and North Beach and the Castro in San Francisco were full of entertainers and people living alternative lifestyles, and my feeling was "whatever," however this trans agenda and child mutilation and DIE education is something utterly different. Transhuman sexualized youth like Hitler Youth or Red Guards, though even more mentally ill, if that is possible. People don't see it because it appears to be so harmless and progressive, but that is how the trick is pulled.

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Long Enough?'s avatar

And why do they need to go in drag? Why not wear their everyday clothing? What used to be a cabaret, adult-only performance has turned into a fetish. It’s like what the pride parades have become - a license for public indecency and grooming.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Are these groups asking to read to children? Or Seniors...or anyone? Drug addicts, prostitutes, strippers, workers from a slaughter house, military, John Fetterman, etc.? It's been asked numerous times, why do "Drag Queens" want to read to children?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Great question

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T Diesel's avatar

The Drags don’t have any ā€œgray matterā€ in their brains.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

LOL. Good one ! A mind still active! Golly, it’s hard to believe some peepul just don’t follow the economics, the realities to the end, that is, common sense

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Lisa Ca's avatar

bery bery good point BFM

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

That generation would tell them to go to h---, lol

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Annie's avatar

Whistle-blower multiplier over $524,000 as of this morning. Way to go! Hopefully it gets picked up and goes over the top. 🄰

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daiva's avatar

šŸ—Ø We can complain that the world is unfair, or we can fight to make it fair.

↑↑ Arizonan Kari Lake as quoted in yesterday's(?) C&C 😊

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RunningLogic's avatar

Love that!!

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Lincoln's avatar

Kari Lake for VP!

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Barnjai's avatar

I am liking Kari Lake more and more every day. She's AWESOME!

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Natalie's avatar

Garret O'Boyle's comments yesterday to the C and C army were great. What a strong Christian!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I love that he commented! Such moral courage, I am happy we can support him!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I didn’t see it. BOO

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CaplT's avatar

Go to comments sort by newest first and go down about 1/3

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Lincoln's avatar

9:47 am. Raised: USD $ 528,593

Go C&C Army

Go Jeff Childers

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P Flournoy's avatar

Need at least $2million! Praying for it.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

What were they aiming for? I never saw a target.

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FourWinds's avatar

I'm just loving Montana and Nebraska right now! I have already decided to move to Montana because Florida is too hot - I am always hot.

This is totally random, but it's on my mind because Memorial Day is coming up. It infuriates me that illegal, invading aliens are in 5 star hotels and some of our veterans are still on the streets. Disgusting!

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Celayne Jones's avatar

Homeless veterans were kicked out of hotels to make room for the noble illegals.

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FourWinds's avatar

I can't tell you how furious that makes me!

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NAB's avatar

I just said to my husband that Montana is on our relocation list now :)

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

Totally agree. They are kicking the veterans in New York out on the streets to make room for the illegals. Absolutely horrible treatment of our nations veterans!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Hey! Other states have governors, too. Imagine that!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Maybe they can get laws passed that lets them run for President, while drawing their governors salary and keeping the seat just in case. I’m sure a Presidential campaign won’t interfere with the ability to effectively govern their states. How could it? ā€œCoughā€ Jacksonville ā€œCoughā€

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Deb S's avatar

Now do Bill Clinton. And Barack Obama. Oh! And Hillary Clinton. Shall I go on? (True that BHO and HRC weren’t governors, but they WERE sitting Senators.) The law in Florida already technically allowed RDS to run (there is no prohibition against running for Federal Office) - this simply makes it a little clearer.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Re BHO being a sitting senator: he was absent frequently, missed votes, generally a dead space for IL until he was shown the path $$$ to the WH. Still makes me furious.

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Christy's avatar

We are traveling full time and thinking about Arkansas.

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TriTorch's avatar

No society that allows the "gender affirming" mutilation of children is a moral society. If someone came to you and told you he or she identified as a one-legged pirate, you would never cut their leg off. The doctors that do this are knowingly violating their Hippocratic oath, and they will answer for this evil in another life.

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Jeff Childers's avatar

Would you — out of 'love' — encourage a schizophrenic to listen to the voices in her head?

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Jeff C's avatar

"But as Christians the Bible requires that we be nice to others" or so I've been told. As far as I can tell the bible never uses the word nice a single time. It's speaks of being kind, not nice.

Nice is a veneer such as speaking in a pleasant friendly voice or being reassuring with a smile. Kind is treating others as we would like to be treated. If I was making a terrible life-altering mistake would I want others to tell me the truth or be "nice"? I'd want the truth and in fact I got the truth from some not very "nice" people back in my twenties. It got me off the road to ruin. I'm grateful for it to this day.

Was God "nice" when He destroyed Sodom and Gomorrah? Was Jesus nice when He called the Pharisees vipers? Or overturned the moneychanger's tables?

Don't let the world (which hates Christianity) define our morality for us. They sneer at us and think we are fools but we listen to their definition of what Jesus would want? Read the bible, it plainly describes what God wants and it isn't what the world preaches.

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Steph D's avatar

We should love what God loves and hate what He hates.

Proverbs 6:16-19

There are six things the Lord hates,

seven that are detestable to him:

Haughty eyes,

A lying tongue,

Hands that shed innocent blood,

A heart that devises wicked schemes,

Feet that are quick to rush into evil,

A false witness who pours out lies and a person who stirs up conflict in the community.

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Jeff C's avatar

Thank you for posting this. The dictionary defines haughty as , "scornfully and condescendingly proud". Nice reminder as we head into Pride month.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And that describes a lot of our so-called ā€œeliteā€ too!

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Cinghale's avatar

In a recent conversation between Eric Metaxas and John Zmirak they were joking about months they prefer over ā€œpride monthā€ like ā€œgluttony monthā€ or ā€œsloth monthā€ šŸ˜‚

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Jeff C's avatar

Haha, if we are going to celebrate the seven deadly sins we may as well pick one we can all enjoy. My wife suggests "vanity month" as at least then people would look presentable.

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Oma's avatar

Your wife is brilliant! I may post that Monthly Celebration on my Fb page.

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daverkb's avatar

So well said. God bless you for taking the time to write this down.

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daverkb's avatar

Our adversaries have promoted as New Testament doctrine a narrative of Unconditional Love and in doing so have abused 'Love they neighbor.' This is heretical doctrine. You cannot love thy neighbor by overturning God's moral law order. Thus Romans 13 wherein the magistrate is to be a terror to evil doers.

The adversary in this has performed his usual trick of bait and switch. Bait with quotes of Scripture (which they hate) out of context and then somewhere switch with the insertion of evil under cover of some presumed good ... like 'tolerance'. Like we should tolerate Drag Queens as some equally valid life style and somehow this is some kind of Christian charity or whatever. In this way, God's moral law is tossed out the window. And what is so sad is that most of the churches have fallen for this stuff ... and have been transformed into enablers of evil.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

You are right. Another example is give your kid everything they want and never discipline them. Don’t ever say no because that isn’t ā€œloveā€.

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daverkb's avatar

Great Example! The collective West destroyed itself with Woke Marxism and all the UN Sustainable stuff. Nice to hear from you!

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Jeff C's avatar

Could not agree more Dave, well put.

I hope you are wrong that most churches have fallen for this stuff though certainly many have. I've attended fiercely biblical churches for thirty years (primarily Calvary Chapel) and have really not seen any of it. Completely agree though that mainline Prot denominations like the ELCA, PC(USA), and UMC are fully bought into this stuff and likely a lost cause (though with God all things are possible).

The Catholic hierarchy seems hopelessly lost too aside from a few renegade bishops (who will never be promoted beyond their current positions). I'm not RC though I was raised in it. Curious how the local parish priests are holding up or if they are being lost to this stuff too.

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Jacquie's avatar

You are correct, the Catholic hierarchy is lost in this mess except for a few good bishops and priests. Unfortunately, when parish priests speak out against this stuff of the world, they are often sidelined. It’s quite sad how watered down homilies have become because of fear of the persecution from their own bishop!

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daverkb's avatar

Jeff ... it is a strange world now in Christendom. I agree with what you are saying. The obvious examples of fallen churches/synagogues of Satan are the conspicuously 'social justice/equity' churches. But the less obvious churches are the ones that operate by sins of omission. I won't go into all of that right here. However, I'll give you an indication of what I mean. That is, we attended a rural Baptist church many years ago for maybe four years or so, and NOT ONCE did we study from the Baptist Confession of Faith. Never! Only some watered down Life Way study guide material. And ZERO teaching of Church History. Both De Wife and I are now shocked at what churches don't teach. And it has been a dumbing down attack one after another on Christianity since at least the 19th century.

My! My! What we did not know! It's astonishing.

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TriTorch's avatar

"Unity is not my objective. My objective is ridding the world of evil, and you don't accomplish that by finding neutral ground with the devil." -What'sHerFace

https://bitchute.com/video/WaidBOYBxwot

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TNelius's avatar

@Jeff Agreed.

We are called to be both salt and light, truth and love/ā€˜kindly honest’.

We cannot say that we follow Yeshua, our Messiah, without following and ā€˜teaching all that He commanded’. Many will make false or inaccurate statements saying that God is ā€˜love’ (only) or that God is truth (only), but He is BOTH equally. He cannot be one without the other. It’s why He is the perfect Father.

There are many ā€˜doctrinally illiterate’ people (I was one of them) who claim to ā€˜dislike the God of the Old Testament’ which is a heretical, to say the least. Why? Because He is the same God in the TaNAKh, as in the New Covenant. Same book--different sections.

He is the same ONE--the same today, yesterday and eternally--God, the Father, His Son, our Messiah, and Spirit, Helper/Advocate, they are ECHAD (one). The Son (Yeshua/Jesus) and Spirit always do the will of the Father because they are ECHAD--therefore, if we claim to follow after Yeshua, as true disciples, then we must also imitate Him and be salt and light!

When we present truth, it must be done with love, joy, shalom, patience, goodness, kindness, gentleness, faithfulness and self-control. We are called to love others as ourselves-treat them with respect even when you disagree with them. I had to learn all of this the hard way. I also learned that when I speak from a place of faith, and not from a place of doubt/fear, I will consistently do to others what I would want others to do to me. Yeshua/Jesus said it best:

ā€˜ Always treat others as you would like them to treat you; that sums up the teaching of the Torah and the Prophets.’ (Yeshua)

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Kim's avatar

Yes, any truth out of balance is heresy. He is both love and truth equally!

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Patricia Woodard's avatar

You can choose to be nicely dishonest or kindly honest. It's obviously easier to be nicely dishonest.

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Copernicus's avatar

I’ve often described Obama as a polite bully. Often in response to folks (both right and left) whining about Trump’s coarse rhetoric.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Ah-men!

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

The Bible talks about brotherly love. There is a sense that being kind to someone can be said to show them brotherly love. ļæ¼I read this: ā€œIt is a kind of love that does for another what is truly best for that person rather than what will make that person happy. It is a love that looks beyond present circumstances toward the ultimate realization of the act, primarily toward the effect of our own behavior.

It is not just a love that, out of concern, gives to somebody to plug a gap and that only. It is a type of love done with a great deal of thought, in which a person thinks through the effects and consequences of his actions to their ultimate end.

Therefore, the result is that he does good for the other person whether that person likes it or not.ā€ I think that is very thought provoking.

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MaryAnn's avatar

This is how God loves us.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!

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MaryAnn's avatar

I was approached by a friend whose son, (extremely intelligent), a freshmen at a university in my city, was thinking about transitioning. The parent wanted to know about resources/counseling available for him to talk about why, etc. His gf was all for it (wth?) and the counselors at the U immediately started instructing him on the steps to take: shave body hair, start hormones, etc. No interest in discussing why, etc. just how to get it done. Fortunately, his parents did not relent. They fought with logic, open, loving, communication. Praise God they succeeded and he is a happy, healthy, successful man!

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Khallas's avatar

I love this so much. Christians need to ditch being "nice" as though that's some kind of virtue. Nice people watched while their neighbors were removed in trucks in the middle of the night. Nice people politely put on masks during the pandemic, essentially validating what they knew to be a malignant, harmful lie.

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CaplT's avatar

Jesus was being nice by telling the truth out of love not vengeance and not wanting us to die in our sins.

It’s just not what the people wanted to hear so he had to turn up the heat, so to speak.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or encourage an anorexic to eat less and affirm the ā€œbeautyā€ of their sickly and emaciated body šŸ˜ž

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NAB's avatar

As a former anorexic, this example really resonates with me. I truly understand the concept of body dysmorphia. At my worst, I thought excising the flesh of my inner thighs and upper arms so as to prevent them from touching my body would make me happy. I really thought that would finally give me peace. Fortunately, I received therapy which helped me fix my very distorted thought processes. Why don't we take the same approach with the current manifestation of body dysmorphia?

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s heartbreaking to see someone in this situation 😢 I’m so very glad you found therapy that helped change your thought processes. God bless you!

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Dr Linda's avatar

What a journey. Thank you for sharing. It isn’t one that many come back from. Out of curiosity which therapy worked?

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NAB's avatar

Straight up talk therapy. The more I reflect back on the experience, I think I was caught up in a form of social contagion (thank goodness there was no social media). It was during the time when there were afterschool specials and "movies of the week" talking about anorexia. Add to that my very dysfunctional homelife and I was ripe for some kind of emotional affliction. I struggled greatly with accepting the need to gain weight while pregnant with my first two kids, but eventually that struggle went away. I think coming to know Christ definitely made a difference too. Now, I hardly think about it, but at one time, it was all I thought about. I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

I keep saying the Trans movement is the Anorexia of the 90’s. I have an acquaintance who had anorexia in the 90’s. She’s better, but still is phobic about fats and calories.

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NAB's avatar

It took a while, but I finally got over my phobia associated with food. It has helped to learn about true nutrition and not the FDA food pyramid BS which has made us a nation of fat diabetics.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

So glad that you are on the other side of this! God bless you!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

hugs NAB.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Some of my former church contacts always emphasized ā€œdon’t judgeā€. ā€œBe tolerantā€ to which I ask, ā€œwould your four year old jump on the piano?ā€ ā€œDo you ask a good singer who is living with his girlfriend, to be the soloist at the next church event?ā€ Ummmm …..sorreeeee! Some things you must be able to judge, a la biblia says so. Amen and amen

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Jeff C's avatar

Yes, the world loves to omit the "first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother’s eye." part. Christ wasn't condemning judgment itself but doing so hypocritically (Matthew 7:3-5).

What is really sad is how many people attend churches and don't understand this. Anyone who has attended a study of the Gospels would know this. Just what is being taught in some churches?

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Or amputate their limbs because they desire to be an amputee? https://www.news-medical.net/health/What-is-Body-Integrity-Dysphoria.aspx

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Roger Beal's avatar

... Or follow a psychologist's instructions and blind yourself with drain cleaner, because you always thought you should not have eyesight: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/real-life-stories/psychologist-blinds-woman-drain-cleaner-6552282

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I have no words😳

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Neither do I

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CaplT's avatar

Induced body integrity dysphoria!

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Holy moley

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Raptor's avatar

I'd say some in the government encourage it.

IRL I have used the schizophrenic argument. Man do people get pissed. It shows how deep the delusion is. It only took a few years. Hope we can right the ship.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

I refuse to participate in their delusions.

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Lauren's avatar

Sharing again, because it's really worth a read. From the year 2000...https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

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Raptor's avatar

The government of Canada's Suicide Squad encourages the mentally ill to act on their feelings of desperation and derangement. One hint of disordered thought and you are swooped up and into the suicide pipeline.

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Lauren's avatar

I raised this question my aunt just yesterday. She thought it was silly. But she doesn't think that saying people are trapped in the wrong body is silly. She takes it very seriously. Check this out from over 20 years ago! https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2000/12/a-new-way-to-be-mad/304671/

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A Guy from South Florida's avatar

Careful .. Someone might actually be willing to turn someone into a one legged pirate

"We all need one legged people"!!!

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Annie's avatar

The most important thing to take away from DeSantis twitter announcement is that it bypassed msm/legacy media. Good.

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CHop's avatar

DeSantis must have been advised that the winner of the election uses the modern form of communication: Clinton did it with late night TV, Obama used social media, Trump used Twitter. The big winner is Elon. Most people didn't know what Twitter Spaces is...and it is very addicting!

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Lisa's avatar

Do you need a Twitter account to listen to Twitter spaces? I have listened to a few through links from groups I follow on other platforms.

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AusYank's avatar

I think Ron is a good and godly man. He has the right positions on many, if not most issues. But in my view he is dead wrong about the biggest issue of all: THE WAR. El Donaldo is the only PEACE candidate. AND he has the gravitas, the ego, and the unpredictableness to face the adversaries down. The Art of the Deal indeed

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YYR's avatar

My takeaway was it was taken down by trolls and the RDS campaign (and supporters) actually thinks there's this level of enthusiasm over their candidate making a completely expected announcement. The pre-picked well known questioners was so scripted. Yuck.

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Annie's avatar

Could be. I didn't view it. I like anything that screws over the useless legacy media.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

FYI: It wasn’t viewable. Twitter spaces is like listening to a live radio program with callers.

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Annie's avatar

I have never tweeted. Never will.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Me neither.

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LMWC's avatar

Same here.

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Mom in Florida's avatar

Totally agree. I love Desantis but I don’t think he can win this game right now.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Just now had time to read yesterday’s post. Wow.

Your lovingkindness, O Lord, extends to the heavens,

Your faithfulness reaches to the skies.

Your righteousness is like the mountains of God;

Your judgments are like a great deep.

O Lord, You preserve man and beast.

How precious is Your lovingkindness, O God!

And the children of men take refuge in the shadow of Your wings.

They drink their fill of the abundance of Your house;

And You give them to drink of the river of Your delights.

For with You is the fountain of life;

In Your light we see light.

O continue Your lovingkindness to those who know You,

And Your righteousness to the upright in heart.

Let not the foot of pride come upon me,

And let not the hand of the wicked drive me away.

— Psalm 36:5-11 NASB1995

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Annie's avatar

I so needed this wisdom today. Thank you, Janice. ā¤ļøāœļøšŸ™

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I thought the last verse was especially timely.

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Raptor's avatar

Just the right mix of gratitude and supplication. I cannot count the times I have asked the Lord to shelter me under his wings and protect me from my foolish pride.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Well now, that's convicting. I was thinking of that "other" pride.

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Raptor's avatar

I have this silly example of passing prideful thoughts. I am putting quilting onto a quilt. My work is flowing smoothly and I am thinking to myself " You are finally getting good at this. Not a skipped stitch, all your corners and seams are so good." Then I ran over my hair and stitched a wide swath of the hair on the right side of my head to the quilt. God's harmless and very suitable slap to his goofy boastful lamb.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

I hope it’s ok if I laugh at that mental image. šŸ˜He does have a way of readjusting when needed. It could have been worse. šŸ˜‰

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Such beautiful wording for a time such as this! Thank you, Janice! We all need this!

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CPK (Charles Kalina)'s avatar

C&C Multipliers remind me of a proposal some years ago: the gist was that whenever the government tries to pick on the little guy, rich conservatives should swoop in and fund his legal challenge or defense. The person who came up with this called it the "Madison Fund" (as in James Madison), although it turns out that name's already taken by an investment firm). The C&C Multipliers basically do the same thing, but with lots of small donations instead of a few rich people.

Not that a few rich people swooping in wouldn't be helpful too...

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Donna in MO's avatar

I suppose 'rich' is a relative term. but if you click on 'top donations', Dan Bongino threw in $5K. Good to see him standing up.

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J Boss's avatar

Kid Rock dropped $5K in the plate for the subway good citizen's defense.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s awesome!

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NAB's avatar

Yes, was just going to say this.

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Roger Beal's avatar

BTW, that's how Donald Trump funded his 2020 campaign, with many many small donations and, other than injecting some of his own wealth, few large ones. That pesky populist Trump!

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Donna in MO's avatar

True, but also remember James O'Keefe's expose on the supposed small donors game the D's are playing on the Act Blue app. Not saying Trump did this, but I guess I question everything these days.

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YYR's avatar

Nobody would have done this on behalf of Trump.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Come on rich people, swoop!

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Big E's avatar

ā€œLandscapers busy maintaining and beautifying the plant life somehow chopped right through our internet cable late yesterday...ā€ Are you sure it wasn’t the FBI doing the maintaining and beautifying?

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Planting mics and such, yah sure…..getting so freaky

Train your dog and cat to dig for the wires, etc

Maybe coming to that !

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Chevrus's avatar

As we meander further down the ā€œpost-covidā€ path in the rose garden even the most ardent fence sitters take not.

This heard recently: ā€œThere really DO seem to be a lot of people dying all of a suddenā€

....hunnie dont get me started ...

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Seeking Grace's avatar

No one I know who got the shots will mention it. I honestly don’t think their ā€œfeedsā€ show all the ā€œdied suddenlyā€ folks. If I bring it up, which happens rarely, they look at me as if I’ve just said the Earth is flat šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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TeacherLori's avatar

Same. My friends who are all fully vaxxed are still too traumatized by all the covid deaths and residual injuries (blood clots, long covid, etc) to even consider that the vax is unsafe, let alone ineffective. We can’t even talk about how wrong the mandates were/are; they simply don’t understand how I can think that.

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Chevrus's avatar

There certainly is a degree of that. But what I’ve noticed is more of a grammar school level ignoring rather than a teenage level denial. This I suspect being because overt denial would cause the logic centers of the brain to activate and that would lead to ā€œunpleasantnessā€.

Thus the much more simple reaction: to pretend its not there, and employ various distractions.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I got in trouble trying to mention jabs bad in my old church Facebook page. So many cancers and heart problems in middle age and elderly. They can’t handle the truth, too horrifying to admit it’s a bio weapon.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

You could try mentioning Eric Metaxas excellent book Letter to the American Church and see what they think of that.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I’m looking it up now, thanks.

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MaryAnn's avatar

And perp’d by our government!

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

I think I was already on their list.

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Emumundo's avatar

If I was jabbed, it would be hard to fathom that my government lied to me and I might die as result of believing what I was told. Look at how many people still think Bin Laden was responsible for 9/11! And how many people believe that our government killed JFK,RFK AND MLK? But they would never do that to ME!

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Roger Beal's avatar

Bishop Barclay is alive and well, living among the clients of the progressive administrative state.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I had been lecturing to some of my friends, who would tolerate me doing so, for many months. Finally, one of them said to me, ā€œyou were right about the shots!ā€ That was vindication for me, yes. Sadly so.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Wow. Excellent result. I mean, sad for them. But at least they won't get the next Jabs that are due for the 2024 election.

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Jaye's avatar

I do seasonal work in a tax prep office.

We noticed the uptick in Estate files this year, too

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

Interesting

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It's getting harder for normies to not notice the increased death count.

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Julie's avatar

It's so true and sad. My brother has gotten them all. He keeps telling me about "so and so, dying of cancer! There's so many people I know who all of a sudden have cancer!" I can't tell him the truth because 1, he wouldn't believe me and 2, if he were to actually acknowledge that the shots are causing the cancer, he'd have to face the fact that our mom died (from stage four pancreatic cancer) because of the shots he insisted she "needed"! 😩

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Chevrus's avatar

Yeah I hear you. Not a lot of good to be done by saying to my mother: Look I warned you, and simply yelled at me and stuck your head in the ground. Now your husband has Parkinsons and cancer but it could not have been precipitated by the shots. So i just stand by and watch it all go down.

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Emumundo's avatar

I had a similar experience. It’s heartbreaking but there’s nothing you can do but love them.

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Julie's avatar

So heartbreaking. 😢

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CMCM's avatar

I have so many family member outside my immediate circle (DH, son, daughter, 2 out of 3 grandkids) who got jabbed three times each. They didn't want to listen to my information early on about why I wasn't getting jabbed (my brother was downright militant about the official "party line"), and at this point some of them are dimly aware of something bad unfolding due to the jabs (they all refused the booster), but so far no one is affected or sick. I keep my mouth shut as I would gain nothing by potentially frightening them all. Sad.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

You could refer them to the detox guide. But its often not worth the blowback.

https://worldcouncilforhealth.org/resources/spike-protein-detox-guide/

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

OMG

And still some staff at my local library wearing masks up to their eyelashes

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The library staffs seem to be some of the slowest to drop the muzzles. It's definitely a personality trait with them.

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Bill Campbell's avatar

Convince me that the fine people of Nebraska DULY elected that screeching meemie to represent them? On the other hand, Rep. Mitchell from Montana seems to represent what most Americans stand for. Ban the machines! Paper ballots. Same day voting. Voter ID. No mail in voting.

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Susan In Kansas's avatar

Screaming Mimi is from a politically connected legacy family.

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Sharon's avatar

Ha ha, wondered about her when a friend showed me the clip a few days ago as I am Nebraska bred.

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CMCM's avatar

Here in corrupt, broke, blue California I've observed that a great many people are terribly uninformed about anything political, they have no idea what a candidates stands for or says, and they vote for them purely due to the D by the candidate's name.

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FH's avatar

Have you also noticed how difficult it is to gather up news/information in this state (CA) at the county and state level? That is not behind a paywall? It’s been true for years, but now that I want to learn about my local (LOCAL!) elected offices, I must round up several sources. LA/SD/Bay Area aside, it’s as if the rest of the state doesn’t exist.

A long time ago a Federalist writer suggested citizen reporting via blogging/vlogging at the local level. Unfortunately this is not possible for me to take on, I think it’s a great idea. Rumble or Locals would be great platforms...

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Based Florida Man's avatar

USA is so ready for a full reboot.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Reminds me of an election in Iraq (maybe a decade ago?) where they had purple thumbs after voting. Paper ballots.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

"Landscapers busy maintaining and beautifying the plant life somehow chopped right through our internet cable late yesterday, so I’m working valiantly with something approaching dial-up speeds using my cell phone as a hotspot."

Were the landscapers clean-cut, fit, mostly white guys wearing Ray-Bans? (Big E beat me to it).

"Yes, we get that she ā€œneedsā€ trans people — but for WHAT?"

That video was surreal. I suffer from occasional PTSD-related insomnia and my troubled psyche managed to engage in a playful bit of self-torture by looping this video while I was in a semi-somnolent state.

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FourWinds's avatar

I understand insomnia for sure. Sometimes it's my mind that won't shut off at all but sometimes it just happens. Last night I was up thinking about how much the left loves the idea of sexually mutilating children and I could not sleep.

The only reason this lunatic wants trans people is so he/she (I'm not sure) won't be alone in his/her/its insanity.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

I haven't gone to a restaurant since 2020, and am happier, healthier, and a better chef for it.

Regarding Griffin - there's no way you can have cancer and not look sick right up to when you mysteriously die. At least no way I'm aware of.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

I’ve known multiple people who have died of cancer. Some of them very fast moving cancers.

None of them, absolutely none, were able to work right up until they died. Not even a couple of weeks before they died.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for sharing Queen, I appreciate your perspective.

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FourWinds's avatar

Wish I could stay out the Mexican joint down the street but it is soooo good.

Family friend died of turbo cancer. She couldn't walk or even sit up at the end.

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J Boss's avatar

As a teenager in the stone-age 70's (damn, I'm old!), I watched the neighbor's dad across the street die of cancer. One day, I asked why he was so thin. The line from my mom that I'll never forget is, "Cancer used to be called the wasting disease." Because it just eats you away until you die, I guess.

Because of that, I've almost always suspected cancer or a bad disease when 40+ y.o. folks that I see regularly start losing weight over long stretches of time. Perhaps I see what I want to see, but they all seem to end the same way.

But maybe the turbo cancers are different. Maybe they eat the vital organs faster than the muscle and fat... I dunno, but I've never seen or heard of cancer killing anyone in a few days or without visible bodily distress.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Nor did I until the last two years...

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ASK's avatar

There are several reports of people that have gone to the emergency room with stomach aches or other health complaints and found out they had advanced cancer which killed them within days or hours.

I also think many of the people with cancer look sick because of the toxic treatments they receive and not the cancer.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thank you Amy - this makes sense in a way, however not in the traditional sense of cancer. Maybe these are all turbo cancers that are a new phenomenon as a result of the injections?

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Lisa's avatar

I wonder if the rapid death from "turbo" cancers don't allow for the wasting, gaunt look many suffering from cancer have?

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

That's what I'm thinking

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T Kosse's avatar

I like DeSantis' message (especially getting rid of Wray!), but I think he would be better off staying in Florida where he can "set the bar" and be an example for turning the country around. And I know none of us is perfect, but when I listen to DeSantis, he seems "preachy" to me--not the conversationalist Trump is (though Trump's random syntax can be maddening too).

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AJF's avatar

I agree, at this point State's rights are critical for our freedoms.

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

I don’t believe it is time for DeSantis. I think the big rush for him is the elites are trying to separate the conservatives, and DeSantis and Trump would be too fizzy together and their egos would explode. DS needs to back off, be the gov example for the country, and wait his turn. God has plans for Trump now, Ack-chually.

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LMWC's avatar

I do not Twitter so I missed the big announcement, but two points Jeff made from the speech, ā€œBuild the wall.ā€ I believe Trump made that same pledge and went through every roadblock imaginable to get it built. And it was being built during his time. The other part about taking wokeism out of the military was also part of Trump’s agenda. Trump accomplished tremendous things with most of DC against him, and yet all anyone remembers now is covid and operation, Warp Speed. Trump pushed for ā€œRight to Tryā€, promptly abandoned and replaced by, ā€œYou have No Medical Rightsā€. He made us energy independent. He loved the military and showed it in countless ways. He warned against China, 30 years before he became president. He never claimed to be religious, but did more for Christians free expression of their faiths than any president in my lifetime.

I like DeSantis as governor of FL. I like what he has done, but I do not trust this carefully planned out run for the presidency. I trust no one in National politics any longer. The 2020 election was never looked at, never fixed in many states, never questioned by the media, or any high level politicians, and now forever fixed by new election laws in many swing states.

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FH's avatar

And the RNC brags about having a ground force of ~85k election workers - while the DNC has 3x as many. The RNC is a lost cause, a joke.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I don’t know how self-aware DeSantis is, but as far as his handlers are concerned, they do not care if he loses. Their aim is the destruction of Trump. DeSantis is a weapon, one amongst many in that cause. They are perfectly happy to have the Democrats remain in charge. That actually may be the most lucrative course for them.

Hopefully DeSantis will be rewarded financially to the extent that the loss of all future political life won’t matter. With this move, he is done.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

I think you've exposed the main point. DeSantis is being pushed to whittle down Trump. The MAGA movement is not done and DeSantis seems to be on the outside of that.

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

šŸ’Æ% agree with you. DeSantis is a tool and is being used to take the votes Trump would otherwise get. Also, it will make the ballot cheating easier for the dems to hide. But neither will win. And DeSantis is done as far as most Floridian's are concerned. We look at his presidential run as turning his back on us and not keeping his word. It must have been a beautiful golden carrot.

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YYR's avatar

Book deals are the financial vehicle of such political rewards.

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MaryAnn's avatar

One arrow in the quiver.

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FH's avatar

Because of Sundance’s writings on this topic, I see things this way as well. I viewed SD with very skeptical eye until I saw how often his assessment was correct (ā€œBarr was the bondo, Durham was the paint.ā€ I still think Durham’s hands were tied in many ways...maybe we shall see in my lifetime.) theconservativetreehouse dot com

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YM's avatar

I worry what will happen to Florida if he leaves. So much good work has been done there the past few years.

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Name Redacted's avatar

Forget the extraneous stuff and personal idiosycracies and focus on the policy statements. That is all that is important. Trump 2024 and DeSantis 2028.

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Kathy Boston's avatar

For those of you who follow the Highwire show, today Jefferey Jaxen might be talking about Bill Gates’s new concoction ā€œApeelā€ that’s being sprayed on our produce, and does not wash off. No transparency, no labeling. I contacted them to see if they have researched it yet and they got back to me saying Jeffrey should be covering it today (2pm EST)

I was at a car dealership yesterday. While waiting for my car to be serviced, I was sitting next to a guy who works for the government and deals with labeling (poultry and meat). I asked him about Apeel and he didn’t know anything about it. He was going to research it. I asked him if he finds anything shady what will he do? He said he would contact Washington DC.

This stuff is potentially being sprayed on everything including organic produce. It’s supposed to preserve the produce, but It’s all being done under the radar.

Also, Did you know that organic farmers are allowed to spray nicotine on organic produce? Sometimes I can smell it on apples.

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CHop's avatar

A friend of my husband said he saw Costco produce labeled with Apeel. I haven't confirmed it as we don't have a membership, but would be worthwhile to keep an eye out for it.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I thought there would always be an Apeel sticker on the product.

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Big E's avatar

I love Ron DeSantis! I prefer most of his policies to Trump’s. What he has done for Florida and freedom embody great statesmanship, patriotism, and conservative values.

That said, I wish DeSantis would postpone his presidential aspirations to preserve the Free State of Florida, to show other governors in ā€œredā€ states how to be real governors with backbone, to avoid dividing the conservative movement, and to prevent wasting precious donations needed for a Republican win against a well-funded Democratic machine.

He’s young! He has time. With a solid track record as a successful governor and national figure, DeSantis could win the 2028 presidential nomination and election by a landslide.

Trump is a flawed candidate, but he inspires conservative voters to do two important things: Donate and Vote. Trump absolutely can beat Joe Biden if he doesn’t also have to mud wrestle people in his own party. (On the other hand, if Democrats have their way, Trump will again be distracted by trumped up charges or in custody, which could strengthen the argument for candidate DeSantis.)

Just my two-cent donation’s worth.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

DeSantis is also flawed. He ordered a lockdown in Florida longer than other conservative states. He did a TV shoot where he wore a mask as he stood beside a 100 year old veteran who was Jabbed right in front of him to push the Vaxx Shots.

He says global warming may be caused by man, and he's convinced the sea levels are rising.

Went to Israel to sign anti-free speech legislation against Christian Floridians.

The rumors of his connections to Paul Ryan, the Bushs, etc seem to be true.

I get no one's perfect, so this is what we have.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

He supports sending money to Zelensky for laundering in the proxy war.

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Gabino Cuevas's avatar

Trump has yet to retract his support for the jabs or lockdowns. At least DeSantis admitted those were errors. Trump went along with mandates, DeSantis fought them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Longer than just a few conservative states, like Georgia and South Dakota. There were many so called red states that locked down longer and harder than Florida!

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YYR's avatar

He pushed jabs way too long and called GA a death cult when Kemp pulled the ripcord to reopen, though GA was never locked down as hard as FL.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know that and I agree that it was wrong of him and I wish he’d pushed for freedom sooner—but compared to most states, even red states, Florida did much better. It really shows how bad other red states were šŸ˜• Also I think that with Florida having such a large elderly population, and Covid being supposedly so dangerous for them, he probably overreacted. So many people saying in 2021 that the jabs would protect the elderly, though it was false šŸ˜•

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

DeSantis is term-limited. What happens after 2026?

"That said, I wish DeSantis would postpone his presidential aspirations ... He’s young! He has time."

But we don't and it may be too late by then. Trump will lose in 2024 by any means necessary, including criminal charges and whatever else will be needed to ensure that he does not return to office.

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Do you think voter fraud would only be enacted against Trump and not another GOP candidate?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think it’s possible that the Evil might try to give us a compliant Republican President (think Obama’s bud, George W. Bush) to feed the illusion of the two party system if they think they need it.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

This. No argument.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

My concern with Trump is the level of hatred that he arouses in independents and moderate republicans. My feelings about Trump are best summarized in Michael P. Senger's article about Deborah Birx.

I use Michigan as an example. In addition to just being a poor candidate and the MI GOP being a sh*tshow in and of itself, certain voters in Michigan saw Dixon as a Trump acolyte which, along with the reaction to the Dobbs decision, led to Whitmer, Nessel, and Benson being re-elected despite Whitmer's draconian COVID policies and democrats now controlling all three branches of Michigan's government.

I can't comment on the voter fraud issue because I still believe Al Gore won the 2000 Election and Nixon won in 1960. I am confident that Trump will lose regardless of who the democrats run.

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LMWC's avatar

I live in Michigan and I assume you do also. Dixon was put in place by the GOP. I followed all 5 Republicans in the primary. All were pro life with Kevin Rinke maybe the least. Yet, Right to Life early on endorsed Dixon who was virtually unknown in this state before that. Rumors were the DeVos family gave a huge sum to R to L for this endorsement. Trump was trying to get GOP candidates across the finish line, he went by the people who supposedly knew, the MiGOP. He didn’t vette Tudor Dixon. But she was attractive, played well before the cameras when she got the chance, and hit the right notes. She supposedly won the primary by 46%. No way. She was simply not that popular with the same people that gathered almost 600,000 signatures to repeal the 45 law. We have straight line voting in this state’s primaries. No Democrat was running against another Democrat in anything. That left Democrats free to vote for a Rep. of the choice told to them. That’s how Tudor Dixon got the vote. Why would Democrats want her as the candidate if they felt Trump’s support was so hateful? We had two good candidates for SOS and AG, voted at the Republican primary convention by delegates organized by grassroots groups and yet they were soundly defeated also. Michigan’s election of 2022 was pushed the same way, 2020 was. It was managed.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Thanks for the explanation of what the heck happened in MI. It's a shame to have open primaries.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

I'll agree that the fix was in for Dixon and that it was a set-up. That speaks more to the dysfunctionality of the MI GOP and Whitmer, et al. were re-elected. Wayne County election improprieties? Most certainly.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Your prediction is the left’s wet dream. But with Trump…’You don’t always get what you wantā€¦ā€

He kicked Hillary’s azz in 2016!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Making me a lifetime supporter!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

He did, but the Lock Her Up thing was such as joke... 'These are great people' he later said of Billary. Seemed slimy and swamp of Trump to shmooze them.

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Angela's avatar

THANK YOU!!!! Trump could not win as an incumbent; he certainly can not win as candidate. He motivates the left just like Hillary motivates the right. His cult will lose a 4th straight election that this NATION can NOT survive.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Trump won in a landslide in 2020 till the big steal came down.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Now the demons are having to twist themselves in pretzel knots that are obvious to any half blind idiot to try and sustain the big lie.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Trump did that! Trump exposed evil and the expose’ goes on.

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AB's avatar

I believe that’s why he mentioned that he set Florida up to be a self runner when he leaves. To have us Floridians support him running for President.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Not sure I believe that FL will be able to be a self runner as he’s off campaigning or if he wins the presidential race. We’ve seen how quickly things can change with a new administration; there is always a leftist waiting for the opportunity to undo what the GOP leader has done and they will swoop in at the first opportunity. And of course there’s the unresolved issue of rigged elections that the left are masters at.

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Susan W's avatar

Governor Walker of Wisconsin comes to mind. Lost the National primary, ran a poor re-election campaign and, during the wee hours of the morning, list the governorship to a moron of a Democrat. Legislature remains solidly Red but Evers vowed to veto everything that crossed his desk ... and has.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

That was one of the more depressing losses…Walker wasn’t a fighter and didn’t even try to analyze the election results for cheating. It made me wonder if he was paid off to just step down. There’s been rigged elections in Milwaukee and Madison for decades but the Zuckerbucks cash flow expanded that cheating to Green Bay and beyond. At a certain point it’s impossible to overcome the fraud which is why WI has turned purple-blue.

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Susan W's avatar

Yes. Test run to see if they could get away with it. They did. And GOP has been unable to put up a winner since. Even for judges.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

That makes me so sad for my home state.

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Susan W's avatar

Mine too šŸ˜•

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Big E's avatar

I confess I didn’t listen to the speech. However, I think it’s optimistic to believe that any government entity can be a ā€œself-runner.ā€ Constant vigilance by the person in charge is essential! I’m just sayin….

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That’s the sanctimoniousness of Ron DeSantimonious speaking!

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AB's avatar

I have my doubts as well. Let’s make sure our next governor is great as well

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Willing Spirit's avatar

That sounds absurd. Especially in light of what just happened in Jacksonville.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

DeSantis is done.

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Vicki Kimball's avatar

I immediately stopped reading at skoch. Skoch. That's a word i hadn't heard in decades. Which took my mind to smidgen. Then I needed to google the difference between sketch and smidgen to see how short of an article it was going to be. Okay, back to reading.

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

I still use skosh but it did catch my eye too. As for smidgen, I prefer smidge. šŸ˜†

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I don’t mind a smidge more wine once in a while. šŸ˜‰ šŸ·

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GoodGrief-239's avatar

Exactly! Just a smidge šŸ„‚

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SHARON MAHOE's avatar

LOL. Yes some great flashbacks to our family expressions

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