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TriTorch's avatar

Uh, the "Pizza Gate theory" is a lot of horrible things but debunked is not one of them. Here is a glimpse into this indescribably evil world: https://bitchute.com/video/Gjo2xPRgyQSv [12:07mins]

Jim Caviezel said it best:

For those that do this, they'll be no mercy for them.

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Annie's avatar

Pedophiles are disgusting.

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TriTorch's avatar

That's an understatement. The veil is lifting and these vile creatures are coming out of the woodwork: https://tritorch.com/degradation/Grooming

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Christy's avatar

The veil is lifting, the problem is the average america could care less and move u out of the way so he/ she can watch the last football game or show. Confounds the mind!

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CStone's avatar

😢

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Shari Ray's avatar

One can only HOPE!!

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CStone's avatar

Like roaches and RATS.

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Keep AmericaFree's avatar

Pedophiles are a menace to society..preying on the most vulnerable & helpless of the population. They must be punished for their crimes!

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Peter GL's avatar

Interestingly we still rate movies , but the libs will still want child porn to be free!

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LS Woodruff's avatar

But not Tranny Story Hours at the library.

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SM's avatar

The most vulnerable and helpless are those who believe it isn’t happening. Even worse, they are enablers and facilitators.

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Truthseeker's avatar

That’s right! And the societal stigma- needs to remain.

Do NOT allow these bastards to hijack the language - they’re not ā€˜minor attracted persons’ … they are disgusting pedophiles… intentionally harming defenseless children for their own gratification.

Evil is afoot.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

When discussing the hypothetical plight of minor attracted persons, it's curious that no one ever looks at the issue from the child's standpoint. I wish someone with knowledge of child psychology would write about how it affects a child to be manipulated and used by an adult MAP.

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Dick's avatar

Thanks for your post.

ā€œExpertsā€ do speak from the child’s point of view. But they choose their own psychologists and interpretation. And they deny, deflect, & ignore the rest — continuing on with their perversity & sanctioned by the captured media, academia, public and government.

Been happening for a very long time. We’re just seeing it’s full-blown manifestation now — metastasized lesions on the skin of this Western world.

Psychology, though, at it best, is a limited, flawed pseudoscience. It denies what is man’s essence as God’s creation, made for Him. It can observe, inquire, manipulate, etc, but it does not ask the right questions. It’s assumptions are limited and thus their conclusions, though helpful, are not curative.

There are and have been child psychologists writing and speaking out about the grave harms. They’ve been ignored, marginalized & vilified. I do salute them, however they will not save the day, Not science, social or pseudo or empirical. The problem is sin. Jordan Peterson moves ever closer and closer to this.

I share your grief and know that sense of helplessness. The all-encompassing need to PROTECT.

God Bless us all, especially the children.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Thank you for that analysis. So we're not going to be able to expect much from that domain. Your description of psychology may be the reason it's hard for me to decipher what they are saying. In college, I enrolled in psychology and after reading a few chapters of the text, dropped the class. I never went back to it. It reminded me of a line from a Dilbert cartoon: "I admire your ability to get paid for this."

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Dick's avatar

Elaine — I found the link to this convo & wanted to just give you a shout. Hope you’re well.

Blessing!

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Dick's avatar

Funny. I did the same with my college sociology class (eons ago). Must be either a) a lazy student, or b) a good bs detector, or c) God protecting. Maybe all three!

I have read & watched some very good psychologists. Didn’t mean to write them off entirely, but I think we look to them for understanding and solutions that really lie outside their sphere of understanding.

Do find research on A. Kinsey, J. Money, and M. Sayer, if you haven’t already. There are others, but these three stand out as having had a huge, seminal influence on every aspect of our country and led us to where we are on this train & why I say it’s been happening for a long time. it really helps to understand. Combined with op. paperclip & the early intel. comm. . plus the introduction of the country to P Yogananda in the 1920s (& Krishnamhurti) , marxists in the ā€˜29s too, & the hijacking of medical practice and science. — These spores were seeded way back. Actually, it started long ago, but those mentioned began the great turning point in this particular story.

I saw it happen. Watched it happening in the late 60s & beyond, waxing & waning. But didn’t understand back then.

Now I see. & they comprise merely one of many tangles in the web.

Cheers, Elaine. Thanks so much for your teply.

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Dick's avatar

Ps — I’m now reading through your stack. Like balm in these times. Enjoyed the two I’ve read so far immensely. Reminiscences. Made me laugh — hard! & conjured up delightful recollections of my own growing up years. We were all some kind of goofy and that was just fine. We must be about the same age. They like to say that the 50s was a time of conformity. No. We were a generation of independent explorers, in families that had just the right kinds of enough and not too much.

Perhaps that’s why they launched their most ambitious conforming and disabling assaults against us.* It would seem that a pretty large portion of our generation — the intact or recovered independent & eccentric explorers — are so active on these pages.

* The tip of the iceberg. (More connecting dots): https://badlands.substack.com/p/the-tavistock-institute

This piece is pertinent to the old conversations above, too. Well, I seem to have traveled from the sublime to the slimy in a single post. Apologies to you, dear Elaine.

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devoalan's avatar

As I've said many times, unfortunately to get out of this mess we allowed, there will be required bloodshed. Right here in America.

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George Bredestege's avatar

Buy guns and ammo, I always say. They are the precious metals that really matter!

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Roger Beal's avatar

My pronouns are brass and lead.

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Christy's avatar

Three percent of us got us out of the mess in the first place. Just waiting fir that spark! So Fing over it!

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Wolfhound77's avatar

Yep and it can't come soon enough. You might be able to vote your way into communism, but the only way out is to shoot your way out.

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JW's avatar

If Trump is getting penalized monetarily for defamation of the NY woman I would think Musk and the purported Obama lover would know the consequences if this were untrue! So I betcha it must have legs.

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Mary H.'s avatar

I thought it was common knowledge that Obama is gay ? He frequented gay bathhouses. His marriage and family are a complete mirage . Everything about Obama is a LIE, including his name .

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Ask Joan Rivers. Oops, we can’t. She’s dead. Is Michelle (Michael) a tranny, like Joan said? Why not?

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Big Mike happened to be off the Spanish coast on an island w/two gay men while the Tucker interview was going on. One of the gay men was a former ambassador to Spain. Sorry, I don't remember the person's name.

Anyway, I find it curious if Big Mike was a female it is kinda odd to be jet setting off to an island w/two gay men, there has been no mention where barry is of late. Some people I wouldn't question it, but w/Big Mike, yeah it is gossip to question.

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A.J.'s avatar

Michael Smith and James Costos? Their Palm Springs hide-a-way was super poplar for Obama during his administration. He and his family went to their house right after leaving the White House 2017.

https://www.architecturaldigest.com/story/michael-s-smith-james-costos-palm-springs-home-article

https://www.desertsun.com/story/news/2017/10/17/presidents-playground-obama/640261001/

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Yup. Same people. I don't even want to know what went on in the Palm Springs place, or the Spanish isle.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/09/michelle-obama-vacations-mallorca-as-larry-sinclair-tells/

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AngelaK's avatar

Maybe he is bisexual?

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Mary H.'s avatar

Nope. I have seen old pictures of Michael.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

It's fairly obvious, to me anyway, that Big Mike is a woman. The broad shoulders, the thick muscles. Some photograph evidence suggests anatomical features incongruous with his ostensible gender.

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Jen's avatar

I'm guessing it has legs too...Tucker is generally pretty careful about who he interviews.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

This story came out during the presidential campaign. Was it in 2008 or 2012 or both times? Also a few young guys died suspiciously, that if IRC were associated with Obama and Wright’s church. So much dirty stuff.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yup. All three of them went to Wrights church. They sure did a good job of locking down the truth about obummer. We never knew the truth about him BUT our discernment went nutz and we knew it was all off and lies. Starting with his birth certificate. You don’t ascend to somewhere from nowhere without the evil machine placing you there. Lies and coverups happened. And the race war was started up again to deflect away from the truth.

How dare you not support obummer you racist! 🤮

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Like you said, it's discernment. We'd be severely disadvantaged without it.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

If you had been reading at The Conservative Treehouse in 2008 you would have known all this. It was maddening to see this evil being get elected President. It was all known by many. Many I’m sure voted for him anyway. Maybe because of the evilness.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ya I never heard of the Conservative Treehouse until a couple years ago. I was asleep back in 2008. Except we knew obummer was not good. We knew, but didn’t know facts if that makes sense. We never heard anything bad about him except his birth certificate. We didn’t vote for him and didn’t want him. We knew he was a fraud in our guts, and we were sick that people bowed down to worship him. He got elected because he was black plain and simple. The race war was alive and well. They turned it into that to manipulate people to vote for him. Shameful.

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TB's avatar

An awful lot of people would refuse to believe it because they can't imagine anyone would be that dishonest. I certainly would have thought it "insane" at the time, but now I'm much less certain... maybe we were just naive about how messed up the world really is.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Even though I believed the stories, a part of me wanted them to be the feverish imaginings of an insane mind. To accept that this is the world we live in takes great courage.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

Consequences seem to be more for truth . Probably been that way forever. Whatever the Truth and the Light ( the Lord for me) is I hope it surfaces and prevails.

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Truthseeker's avatar

šŸŽÆ

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Becky's avatar

My brain doesn’t want to accept the evil terribleness of this. It dawned on my husband and I last night that in all our lives (we’re both 67) we had never known, knew anyone who knew anyone, or heard of anyone locally, who had a child simply disappear, with the exception of one small girl 20 years ago who left her home and never returned. We came to the uncomfortable and horrible realization that maybe most of the children ā€œmissingā€ and being trafficked must be from other countries, where poverty and harsher lives make it easier to do.

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Truthseeker's avatar

It’s true. The predators prey on the vulnerable …

Native American girls disappearing in droves …

And many kids are from broken homes where there are no engaged parents to protect them.

That happened when I was in middle school. A janitor molested my best friend. Her parents were raging alcoholics, divorced. My parents were married, engaged people in the community. We were both playing on the school grounds that day. I left to go home for dinner and she remained.

I often think back to that day. If I’d stayed. Would it not have happened to her… could that have been me, if she left me there and I was left alone with him

I don’t think it would have happened to me- because that janitor knew my father- and he knew my father would have shot him straight in the head.

An intact

Strong nuclear family

Often protects kids from these types of predators

Not always

But it is a very very strong deterrent.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I agree. A strong family with a father ready to defend and protect his children is an excellent deterrent.

I worry sometimes that if the jabs kill parents in the prime of their lives, what will happen to their minor children?? šŸ˜• Will there be enough responsible and upstanding adults left to care for them??

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Susan Banks's avatar

So many young adults are dying. What is going to happen if these deaths don’t stop. They have to stop don’t they? I guess I never thought of that!! Geez! What a world!

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know it’s very unsettling.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

The answer is no.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I’m afraid it will be šŸ˜•

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CH's avatar

Another reason these evil f'ers want to abolish traditional families.

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Fla Mom's avatar

The predators know who the easy prey are, and aren't.

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Mom in Florida's avatar

Yes, the possibility of lead poisoning would have probably deterred him from harming you. I hope the victim is ok.

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Truthseeker's avatar

The janitor was convicted

Lost his job, wife and family

And went to prison

That was back when predators were prosecuted… not protected! So in that sense there was some Justice.

She’s okay… but has never had a lasting male relationship in her adult life. So one wonders what long term harms occurred.

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TriTorch's avatar

Agree. It is very difficult to come to terms with the horrible truth. If you stare into this abyss too long, it changes you and not in a positive way. So I occasionally write stories like this to try make the world a brighter place: https://tritorch.substack.com/p/doom-break-volume-1-raise-your-vibrations

The struggle to acknowledge these vile problems and eradicate this unimaginable wickedness is ours and ours alone. It is one of our primary trials in this life, and God is watching.

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LMWC's avatar

And this is how our Congress and most of our Courts have been taken over until they are one party, the Uniparty, courtesy of child trafficking and pornography. Blackmail is one way to get everyone in line and keep them there.

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We the Sheeple's avatar

Holy truth bomb- I truly had my head in the sand with all.of the evil happening in darn near every facet of our lives up until the whole covid/Floyd crap-storm. There have been several times over the past few years that, in the smallest of ways, that I was still ignorant to what's really happening. It's a heavy burden to see it all and I pray, often, for God to use me or show me what I should be doing to combat this depravity and evil in a meaningful way. We are all His warriors and I am grateful to be a part of this community. God bless us all!

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Dick's avatar

YES!

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CStone's avatar

If I understand correctly, it started with the confession booth. Then, when they confessed, they were blackmailed.

They would even sell ā€˜indulgences’ for a future crime (even rape, murder) and would have to pay in gold or silver. Hence, it became the largest corporation in the world. In the name of religion, with gold covering their buildings.

So why are we do surprised that blackmail is still the currency of evil men?

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AngelaK's avatar

Forgive me but I find that to be a very anti Catholic remark with much hyperbole.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Remember the milk cartons? Read on one of those conspiracy websites that those were not missing kids…they were kids already for sale. It was the internet back then. 🤨 so sick. Did you ever hear of a milk carton kid being found? I never did and don’t know anyone else who did.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Milk......Molech. In our faces, hiding in plain sight.

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Wolfhound77's avatar

Like the earlier version of Wayfair.

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Copernicus's avatar

Oh, this is beyond dreadful.

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CStone's avatar

😢

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RandiG's avatar

OMG!! 😱

I never would have thought that. It’s unbelievable!! 🤬

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Or maybe the poorer areas of America. We have plenty of poverty here and who’s paying attention?

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

Think back to the announcement that we ( the Biden administration) are missing or can’t locate rover 85,000 unaccompanied kids from the border. Don’t you think it was odd that they encouraged kids to come? There is so much evil in our government.

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CH's avatar

It is mind blowing. I always knew our government was corrupt but the magnitude of it is hard to comprehend. Time for all of it to be torn down.

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Patrice's avatar

We raised our kids in a less affluent town. It was routine for our kids to be followed if they ever took a walk around the neighborhood. (The police response was that they shouldn't be allowed to take a walk.) When a property owner contracted to rent his house to released felons, we protested about potential pedophiles living in such close proximity to children. The property owners response was to limit the housing to the worst pedophile offenders - six men at any given time who were convicted of crimes against children under the age of 12. Please note that the property owner received a payment for each of these offenders that was more than rent for that area. Our response was to get big dogs to allow our kids some freedom as well as to grow vines across the front gate to hide the kids playing in the front yard. The point was that in preparing arguments to taken to the city council, I learned that our less affluent city had double (or more) the number of perverts than any surrounding affluent city, or even the entire county. Our city had fewer resources to fight politically, more crime so the police were less able to proactively patrol neighborhoods and no reserves to fight legal battles. When the city council passed an ordinance restricting where pedophiles could be housed, the courts shot it down and the city accepted the loss. More than once, my girls ran home in fear of cars following them. One guy even had the nerve to pull over and run up our driveway after one of my girls. He ran and got back in his car and drove off when I came barreling out the front door looking for the pervert chasing my kid. (Momma bears can be terrifying.) What about the kids who didn't have a parent at home to protect them?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

So awful😩

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Roger Beal's avatar

Some 85,000 unaccompanied minors have crossed our southern border labeled by President Peters as "refugees". They have disappeared without a trace. Let that sink in.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

That's not even a recent count, either. No telling what the REAL number of missing kids really are.

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Susan Banks's avatar

Isn’t that the Truth. We had cardboard signs that had a hand on it called ā€œHelping Handsā€ on it. I’m from Michigan. I dont know anyone at all. But if you take every couple In the US, and if they all knew one Child that went missing that is still a lot of kids. David Steele (rip) was a Judge and retired and started doing videos to wake people up. I listened to him one day, and he said that babies that were being born in the tunnels and none of them even have a birth certificate so no one will even miss those children. That’s when I realized how big this really was. I ended up following him. Great man and speaker. He was friends with a guy named Jason from Manhattan. Jason walked and did live videos jn Manhattan during Covid. They were incredibly good because the Hospitals were empty!! Everyone was ready like Fire and Police. Refrigerated Trucks ready for bodies and nothing for a long time!!! He also walked Sundays with a Man who was so damn smart about everything and a little older but the miles they would walk! I loved it because you get the Tour!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

This must be why they are trying to legalize pedophilia. Bc they know we are on to them!

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LMWC's avatar

If they can pass a law in MI making it a Constitutional amendment not only allowing abortion up to birth and beyond but also stripping all parental rights for children over age 12, in all broadly based health issues, they can easily pass a ā€œminor attraction decision amendment. As a caveat, I do not believe the ā€œHealth Freedomā€ law was legally passed in MI, but they got away with it just as they will keep getting away with it. First people have to know, and right now, it’s just a drip, drip. We need a tsunami.

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Wendy Montgomery's avatar

Thank God I don’t live in MI or CA. Both states want to strip parental rights away. If I had small children, I’d be sending my children to school in clothes that didn’t fit, not giving them a lunch or lunch money, then complain to the schools that they aren’t properly caring for the child they so desperately wanted to strip my rights away from just to make a point. Then I’d ask them at the beginning of the school year to show me my child’s vaccination records and schedule of all doctors/dentists appointments with the drivers license of the person who will be transporting them. At the end of the year, I’d send them a bill for the food my child ate and the cost of putting a roof over their head during the school year. It might have to come to that.

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CStone's avatar

Not a good plan. CHS would yank those children out of your home.

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Wendy Montgomery's avatar

Maybe, but if enough people pushed back it would certainly get the nation’s attention to what it means to have your rights as a parent taken away. My children are grown, thank goodness. Now they are the ones who would potentially have to fight this issue.

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Surf Monster's avatar

And another. And just in case you still think this is conspiracy theory, look up the roots / family lineage of James Alefantis. Fact...he is a Rothschild. And while you are at it, search on ā€œTony Podesta artā€. Again, tell me this is all nut job conspiracy theory.

https://www.bitchute.com/video/DrTMfHGVUVlY/

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Jill's avatar

Oh no! James is just a "humble pizza parlor owner" according to some magazine (Time? I can't remember) when this story first broke.

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Jill's avatar

And I think he went to the White House about 50? times and is considered one of the world's richest men. That just shows how humble he is!!!!!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

This is the only first-hand account of a woman trafficked as a child that I've found credible. It's in chapters, where she relates her experience of being sold by her parents to Jeffrey E. Ultimately God won this one, but her testimony is not easy to hear. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feC_qvG4yQw

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Sheep Dog's avatar

Once turned over to a "Reprobate Mind", there is usually no coming back. NOT a situation to be in. Lake of fire vs The Cool Waters of God's Grace.

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Agent99's avatar

I am reminded of Proverbs 30:20 "This is the way of an adulteress: She eats and wipes her mouth and says 'I have done nothing wrong.'" This is exactly the behaviour of those who are guilty of these crimes. But God will not be mocked.

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Dick's avatar

Very good!

That verse reminded me of something found in the aftermath of the Lahaina fire. After the fire destroyed their home, one of our good friends (a strong Christian) discovered beneath the entirely burned back seat of what had once been the family van — his daughters Bible. It too had burned, except for a single page, which he saved.. It was Ezekiel 20-23.

(He sent pics, front & back, but I can’t post picks here — if anyone knows how, please let me know!)

What are your thought? I’ve been pondering this since.

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Agent99's avatar

Wow. That is intense. We, as a nation, need to repent of our sins (abortion, extensive corruption, forsaking the Lord and His ways, forgetting that it was out of a desire for religious freedom that this nation was formed in the first place), but I don't believe that is going to happen. However, as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.. God bless and thanks so much for sharing that incredibly important story.

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Dick's avatar

Thank you. I will. Now delete the email from this post —I have it ;).

Thanks!

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Sherry 1's avatar

Yikes! From what I just read following your link, DC feels more like a dark, filthy and ugly underbelly than a collection of ā€˜elites’. 😳😳

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Ephesians 6:12 -- "For our struggle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the powers of this dark world and against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavenly realms." We've long been in the dark about our "rulers" and "authorities." They're like flies and buzzards circling the heavenly realms.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I think you’re on to something there… šŸ˜•

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CStone's avatar

So depressing. Have you watched ā€œThe Fall of the Cabalā€?

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Billy Bob's avatar

No, I haven’t.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

Yeah, the ABC journalist that supposedly "debunked" Pizza Gate just got charged with child pornography. Ironic, no?

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Dick's avatar

Do you have a name or a link, please?

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Gary Gaskins's avatar

Thank you for posting, I hadn't seen this one.

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Kratoklastes's avatar

The PizzaGate theory wasn't 'debunked', it was DEBOONKED - which is when 'they' get a pedophile to write a stream of nonsense, which 'they' then publicise as widely as possible.

What hasn't been debunked is the bridge from "Rich Men North of Richmond"...

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Lord knows they all just wanna have total control

Wanna know what you think

Wanna know what you do

And they don't think you know

But I know that you do

And your dollar ain't shit

Coz it's taxed to no end

Coz of Rich Men north of Richmond. ===

A 6'6" left-handed Ginger-American in the woods with his gittar 'n his dawgs.

An unlikely catalyst for an improvement in men's mental health throughout the west, but there you have it.

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Bonnie Myers's avatar

If you are cynical Tucker's interview with Larry Sinclair can be viewed another way. Let's say that Biden finally gets dumped by the Democrats. They don't want Kamala and Michelle Obama's name has come up time and again. Perhaps the right is learning to fight fire with fire by bringing the Sinclair story back into the open. How else to tarnish the silver tongue of our first black President and his first lady. Personally, I knew nothing of Larry Sinclair and Obama until this interview. MSM did a good job of keeping that under wraps all those years ago.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

and his first whatty?

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Florida Grown's avatar

I’ll never forget watching an episode of American Idol where Tyler was a judge. So awkward! Cringeworthy! What he said to a 15 yr old contestant and in front of her Dad too.

Steven Tyler's Top 5 Sleaziest Moments on 'American Idol'

https://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/steven-tylers-top-sleaziest-moments-american-idol/story?id=15395856

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RandiG's avatar

FG,

Most of the music industry is MK Ultra mind control and part of the sex trafficking all over the world.

The CIA and FBI are all in on it. Don’t you think if they REALLY wanted it shut down, it would BE shutdown?

They got the Gilgo Beach killer on Long Island from DNA on a pizza box (gosh, no pun intended). So, are we not to think if they want to put an end to this truly horrific and demonic behavior they would?

Check this link out:

https://cleverjourneys.com/2021/04/10/brad-pitt-robert-downey-jr-mel-gibson-claim-hollywood-is-an-institutionalized-pedophile-ring/

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Florida Grown's avatar

Hollywood Monsters, Politicians, Media, and anyone else that prey on the young may they rot in hell. It makes me sick.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Eww 🤮

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Susan Banks's avatar

Podesta was a Twisted maniac!!! His Art was Hung in the Denver Airport that was just as Twisted!! The Denver Airport has a lot of Stories as in Floors. Going Down! Probably several elevators going down under it!! Very evil things used to go on down there!! I know they blew up every Tunnel. So how did they get those without making the Airport sink? Who knows? I would believe about anything at this point!! Lol sometimes you just have to find things to laugh about! As I was writing this, I was picturing the airport sinking just a little at a time before it all went down!

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lynn's avatar

Rather than being a proven pedo, Obama choose to go gay smoke crackhead. Questioned timing of Tucker interview

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AL's avatar

Wayne Allyn Root has his finger on the pulse. "Gay" is the least of it. He was a plant by the ruling class who pull him out of anonymity, fast-forwarded him through a couple of positions and then made him President out of virtually nowhere.

https://twitter.com/ScottFishman/status/1699817895465742523?s=20&utm_source=substack&utm_medium=email

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Eric's avatar

Can't even imagine what it must be like to be a medical professional with years and years and years of schooling and training methodically honing his/her expertise, knowledge, competence, prowess and profiency only to have all that be unceremoniously kicked to the curb....not allowed a seat at the table because of simply daring to have a difference of opinion...to be bold enough and have enough integrity to deliver actual facts, proof and data. Worse yet, to have a career possibly ending up in an ash heap of non-importance. What a tragedy for those fledglings who were contemplating a pilgrimage into the realms of healthcare . My wife - who is far more intelligent than I - is still coming to grips with this very disturbing revelation.

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M VARR's avatar

You would be shocked at the number of great doctors that have left the profession

because of the tyranny of the AMA, Board Certifiers, Hospitals, Insurers and Government Regulators.

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gina's avatar

My friend works in special education wrestling autistic, behavioral problem kids, protecting them and staff. He is trained and certified with many years of experience. He got together with the other aides and they agreed they would refuse jab mandate and quit if pressured.He works in NYC. I think they were 20 of them. The whole special education program would have fell apart if they all walked out. They all got exemptions! It helps if you all agree together before a mandate to walk, sign a petition. The whole dept. if possible. Maybe we would have defeated mandates if everyone agreed before hand to walk.

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M VARR's avatar

UNIONS were SUPPOSED to protect their members.

Most got BFE(Big Fat Envelopes) and sold their members down the river for

thirty pieces of silver.

Lesson learned.

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Peter GL's avatar

Unions are rackets like politicians or mafia. Ever seen a poor union boss? Politician? Mafioso? They are all the same, suckling on the populaces teat

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Roger Beal's avatar

Go back to the halcyon days of the USW in my hometown of Pittsburgh, and A SINGLE INDIVIDUAL often was, at the same time, union boss, politician, and mafioso.

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Peter GL's avatar

Ahhh, the bad old days!!!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I used to be in a union in the 1990’s when I worked for a county government*. I observed that unions are good for two things: collecting dues, and using that $ to build big shiny buildings and funnel said $ to the top Union people. *Public employees (government workers) should not have unions. Even FDR said that only private companies should have unions. Our state busted our government unions in the early 2000’s, which is a good thing.

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Wendy Montgomery's avatar

We begged AFSCME to do something about the mandates but they did nothing. I have not, and will not, join the union. The FOP, which is only for law enforcement and correctional officers, has said they will fight to stop their union members from having to comply with any mandates. AFSCME refuses to reply to the question.

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M VARR's avatar

The Police Unions have been phenomenal in standing up for their members.

Cops can smell CORRUPTION miles away.

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TB's avatar

Sometimes they can also smell it in the chair next to them...

... but nonetheless, massive respect to all honest cops.

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Renee Sommers's avatar

Because they know most of those kids wound up that way after their shots. Watch the movie Vaxxed.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I was shouting that! Individually we fail. Collectively we rise up and become their worst nightmare. Glad to hear they stood up together!

My daughter was the only special needs person in our group of special needs family in our whole community that did not get jabbed and did not wear muzzles. We stood alone. Most of them now have extra health problems. Not all, most. One is dead.

They targeted special needs, and old people. Go figure.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Special needs and elders are low hanging fruit, when the goal is to reduce Medicare expenses and save more taxpayer money for the elites' transhuman implant surgeries.

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RunningLogic's avatar

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Gina: exactly this! If only people would realize they have the power to stop this madness, if they’d only all just refuse to comply with rules that are both illegal, and morally wrong. Thanks for sharing.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good for them!!!

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Transcriber B's avatar

It was brutal.

Dr. Chris Rake removed from UCLA for being Unvaccinated

Posted October 5, 2021

https://rumble.com/vnc8nh-dr.-chris-rake-removed-from-ucla-for-being-unvaccinated.html

Video description: "Dr. Christopher Rake, MD, MPH has been an anesthesiologist at UCLA for 15 years with a stellar record. But he drew the line in the sand and said "No" to Dr. Tomas Aragon's arrogant vaccine mandate. His punishment for refusing this assault on his personal bodily autonomy and his freedoms?: he was escorted off the premises of UCLA Westwood Hospital and told not to return. Oct 4, 2021"

TRANSCRIPT

DR. CHRISTOPHER RAKE: OK I am being escorted out of 200

Medical Plaza at Westwood Santa Monica for standing up for freedom. We've got Edward Galvin here. Say hi, sir. What's your title, sir? And Andrea Eggins.

EDWARD GALVIN: Don't come near me.

DR. CHRIS RAKE: What's your title sir?

EDWARD GALVIN: Don't come near me.

DR. CHRIS RAKE: OK.

EDWARD GALVIN: Keep walking.

DR. CHRIS RAKE: And this is what happens when you stand up for freedom and you show up to work, willing to work, despite being unvaccinated. And this is the price you have to pay sometimes. What they don't realize is,

I'm willing to lose everything, job, paycheck, freedom, even my life for this cause. Be well. United we stand, divided we fall.

[Dr. Rake stops walking and turns the the camera on Edward Galvin]

EDWARD GALVIN: If you keep coming close to me, I'll take that as a threat. I'm telling you that right now. I want to be fair to you.

1:44

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One more for now-- of many, many more:

Dr. Sarah Shulman, Concord, Pediatrician, The Faces of Vaccine Injury MA

https://rumble.com/v2uhb9i-dr.-sarah-shulman-concord-pediatrician-the-faces-of-vaccine-injury-ma.html

Posted June 15, 2023

This is one of several short speeches for the event sponsored by Health Rights Massachusetts, May 18, 2023 at the Massachusetts State House.

TRANSCRIPT

DR. SARAH SHULMAN: Boy, this is a long, a long litany. My name is Sarah Shulman and I'm from Concord, Massachusetts.

Twenty-nine years ago I took the sacred oath that I would do no harm and I became a physician. I took my job seriously, often sacrificing my home life for the lives of, that I was helping save. I missed birthdays, funerals, my kids' first steps and words. I became a specialist who saved babies' lives. I have attended 50,000 births and have saved countless lives.

Because of my expertise I was recruited by Brigham and Women's Hospital to develop a team of physicians who attended high-risk deliveries. People sought our care globally. I was at the pinnacle of my career when the pandemic struck.

While at the height of covid I left my three kids and husband every day to sacrifice my life for the lives of my patients, I watched as my whole department sacrificed their lives, intimately comforting patients with covid while developing ways of staying healthy despite there was no vaccine for us.

My experiences with health challenges and my religion had taught me that my body is a sacred temple and that it had a natural wisdom and when treated well would perform maximally. Throughout my career I had watched how medications such as thalidomide* could cause unexpected issues like birth defects. I gave drugs and vaccines to people only to find out that they were being taken off the market.

I learned that only time could inform safety information. When the drugs were found to have unwanted side effects, I felt responsible for the lives I had affected.

When the covid vaccine came along I intuitively believed that my body could keep me safe. This had been exemplified in the prior year when none of my department had gotten covid. Because I was on the front line doing research, my research informed me that this drug would alter my genetics forever and that there was no information about the long-term effects.

On October 15, 2021 my religious exemption was denied, despite 234 exemptions had been granted. I was escorted out of the hospital, I have two more children to put through college, and I'm unable to get a job all because I believe in bodily sovereignty.

The hospital lost one of its most seasoned, compassionate physicians. I hope these testimonials show that mandating a vaccine that has not been thoroughly studied has grave ramifications for humanity.

Thank you.

[applause]

3:15

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TRANSCRIBER'S NOTES:

This is one of several short speeches for the event sponsored by Health Rights Massachusetts https://healthrightsma.org

For more about the event, see co-founder Julie Booras' introductory speech:

https://rumble.com/v2ugusu-julie-booras-health-rights-ma-co-founder.html

See also:

Vaccine injured rally on Beacon Hill

by Doc Pruyne, June 17, 2023

https://docpruyne.substack.com/p/vaccine-injured-rally-on-beacon-hill

* See "The True Story of Thalidomide in the US"

https://usthalidomide.org/our-story-thalidomide-babies-us/

which mentions the recently published book by Jennifer Vanderes, "Wonder Drug: The Secret History of Thalidomide in America and its Hidden Victims" https://www.jennifervanderbes.com/wonder-drug

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Blair's avatar

I can't say it enough. These doctors are true heroes. Thank you for all you do Transcriber B!

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Transcriber B's avatar

Thanks for reading, and your kind words. I stand in awe of, and gratitude to Dr. Shulman.

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AJF's avatar

Such important work you do! Documentation of the spoken word! Thank you šŸ™

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Dee's meow's avatar

Ditto!

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rolandttg's avatar

Read the Thalidomide article. think I was 7 when it was on the cover of Life magazine, and I remember it vividly. but as the article states, it was supposedly a success story of the FDA protecting Americans while Europeans were exposed to it. The all pervasive evil of Big Pharma (Big Oil) still boggles my mind, but not nearly so much as how it seems most doctors sold their souls.

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WP William's avatar

Yes, the Pfarma-following foot soldiers: Cowed, fear-mongered, both lavishly praised and rewarded and pressured with implied threats; treatment shirking--"Don't come in, we're overrun!" go home and then come in when needing ICU, or the morgue as next options. Off-label treatment phobics, VAXX pushers (Jabs In Arms! the more the better), most IMPORTANTLY the doctor/physicians and hospitals and clinics, pharmacists, and County and State Health Officials must ALL be held to account for mal-Practice; NO EXCUSES not ONE, they knew better and betrayed us and themselves, turned a blind eye to stab their patients and communities in the back. Fking cowardly enablers who were too afraid to do their job properly and allowed the few who did so to suffer and be silenced. Duck and Cover Doctors doing as BAD of work as Abortionists, Trans-surgeons, and Euthanizers. Quacks and quaxxines

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Jay Horton's avatar

Ding Ding Ding! WPW wins it today! HOLD THEIR FEET TO THE FIRE!!! NO MERCY.

Later Jay

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

It's been a while since I've read the thalidomide story, but wasn't it just ONE woman who stood up against the other FDA big wigs to stop thalidomide being approved? Just FYI - thalidomide is now being used in cancer treatment. They just cannot let a dangerous drug go to waste!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I was a few years older (10?)--substitute secretary at my middle school must have been one of the thalidomide babies--hand emerging too soon from her arm (don't remember at just which point/joint)

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Shelle's avatar

Watching this video made me so mad. What an utter jerk that Galvin guy shows himself to be. To be complicit in something so evil as this. I pray God will give him the judgment he deserves and never let up until he finally repents (ie, until he calls up and apologizes to Dr. Rake).

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Transcriber B's avatar

I can understand your feelings. May the highest divine power bless us all with clear seeing and peace, every one.

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Peter GL's avatar

You mean Mr Edward "don't come near me" Galvin! Such a brave man!

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CStone's avatar

ā€œStunning and braveā€, I believe are the words of Babylon Bee.

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Fred's avatar

Goes without saying that this is much easier for an established clinician than a new resident with šŸ’°šŸ’°šŸ’° med school loans and often a family to support.

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Transcriber B's avatar

Not that it possibly could have been easy for anyone.

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Peter GL's avatar

Even without loans, getting fired with scarlet letter put on you is never easy.

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Roger Beal's avatar

When this tide turns, and it WILL, that "scarlet letter" will be a badge of honor, morality and honesty.

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Susan Banks's avatar

I wish we could of rented billboards back then and put videos like this in color on these screens. People would have still got vaccinated though. Still get jabs now!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

James O'Keefe's van with scrolling images parked outside Pfizer hq in NYC......

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CStone's avatar

That was absolutely brilliant!!

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Dee's meow's avatar

And, astoundingly, it still goes on.

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Sunlover's avatar

Yes. In British Columbia Canada, Bill 36 is the law that mandates every healthcare worker in public or private practice must take any and all vaccines that the govt regulator calls for. Speaking for anything that is other than the public health mandate can lead to criminal charges, losing your license, large fines, business property confiscated and jail time. This while our healthcare system operates in crisis mode with long wait times for diagnosis and treatment. The only thing you can get quickly as a patient is MAID service (medically assistance in dying).

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Dee's meow's avatar

I know what fields im glad not to be part of in this day and age.

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

I need to find that linky (brb). That is the same thing essentially - MAID // govt forced vax. This will destroy healthcare, doctors, hospitals as we know it. Years toward implosion, in 3, 2, 1 ...

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Peter šŸ”’'s avatar

https://www.leg.bc.ca/content/data%20-%20ldp/Pages/42nd3rd/1st_read/PDF/gov36-1.pdf

Language is vague (286 pages!). All licensees are subject to Bylaws and the Direction of the Minister, a Board or Health occupation Director.

Section 3 - Receiving Applications

page 43/44 - (2a & 2c) (a) Comply with an order made under section 286 [administrative powers]; (c) [...] applicant for a license to practice Health Care, must "comply with an order on or before a specified date."

286 Determinations Respecting Support Workers (p 146)

Not sure what support services means. look it up if curious.

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Mom in Florida's avatar

At least he is alive today.

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Jamie Leigh's avatar

More shocking is the number of the gullible compliant. Or naive hopeful. Or adherents of expert opinion. Whatever the reason might be.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

šŸ’Æ this! So many people blindly follow doctor advice. Hopefully they’ll think twice next time but I doubt it

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WP William's avatar

Naively Hopeful, like the lotto or carnival attendee, casinos and West African Princes sending millions...it might just be true though

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I actually got an email last week about a Saudi prince needing help to give away his $10 million dollar fortune! 🤣 It's been several decades since I've seen one of those!

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WP William's avatar

do fraudsters change their ways, regret fleecing people and make repayment? NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE the EVILS that have been committed and the parties and individuals who perpetrated the harms and devastation. Unpunished CRIMINALS and ABUSERS don't need our forgiveness they need us to kick the holy crap out of them in every legal and avail. manner possible or they only view things they've done unto others as legitimate and natural and justified and reinforce their thinking and thus their actions to once more project it onto more victims in worse ways next time. MOST victims will simply slink into the back of the crowd and hope they're not targeted again and convince themselves it wasn't intentional or they deserved it or it's not worth it to speak out and resist Evil. Active Passivity is worse than true ignorance. Lord give us wisdom, power, honor and strength to Actively and Passionately Resist Evil persons and institutions and forces.

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

My integrative medicine doctor left the system in 2000.

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Christy's avatar

Who is John Galt?

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M VARR's avatar

They could not see the world beyond the mountains, there was only a void

of darkness and rock, but the darkness was hiding the ruins of a continent:

the roofless homes, the rusting tractors, the lightless streets, the

abandoned rail. But far in the distance, on the edge of the earth, a small

flame was waving in the wind, the defiantly stubborn flame of Wyatt ' s Torch,

twisting, being torn and regaining its hold, not to be uprooted or

extinguished. It seemed to be calling and waiting for the words John Gait was

now to pronounce.

"The road is cleared," said Gait. "We are going back to the world."

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Christy's avatar

Omg. Thank you!!!šŸ’œ

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M VARR's avatar

Yes

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Annie's avatar

It is horrible. I still cannot believe it happened. But at least now the honest medical professionals have their health and will be around to set up a real health care plan. As adam Scott said "They are the winners." This current system needs to crash and burn. As do a lot of institutions in this country.

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Annette's avatar

There is no such thing as a good vaccine they are all poison and they should be stopped immediately. Autism is through the roof please find a way to stop all vaccines and to wake up the people about how bad they are and what they're doing to our children.

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Debbie Alton's avatar

The wake up is happening, my young adult kids and their friends have publicly stated they will not vaccinate any of their future children. And many of us will NEVER take any other vaccine in our lifetimes. Working on purging medicines and the food we eat too.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Same with my two nieces having babies currently. No vaxxes at all. Ever! I’ve bought both of them books. Turtles all the way down and Dissolving Illusions. āœ…

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

My niece, born March of this year, has no shots at all. Same with three other grand-nephews and nieces. These children look like babies and toddlers used to…bright-eyed and bushy tailed, glowing with health.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Saw my primary week before last--she remarked (without comment) that I had said last year 'no vaccines ever again'. I hadn't even remembered that--wonder why she felt she had to mention it.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Exactly. You likely stated that at an earlier appt. so that you wouldn’t have to keep wasting your limited appt. time discussing it.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, I did state it, last year---but given that repeatedly I had been asked if had taken the C-shot, I could have expected a suggestion for pneumonia or flu anyway. Very pleased not to. And nurse who did height weight didn't even ask about C-shot--that's new and a great improvement.

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Annie's avatar

Same with my nieces.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I cut my prescriptions from 4 to 2 and am now looking askance at the other two. I found a substitute OTC remedy that can substitute for antibiotics, and stocked up just in case. Looking for ways to stay away from my doctors.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Good for you, Elaine Russky. It’s eye-opening once you research these Rx drugs. Do you know of anyone on a bunch of prescription drugs who is healthier and ā€˜all better’? I don’t.

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Christy's avatar

We have a 10 year old cat that’s pretty wild w no vet visit. I wish I could post a pic bc she’s just beautiful w no issues whatsoever!!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

I bet she has the opportunity to catch & eat some outside critters. That is the best food for a cat.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

This is simply untrue. There are some beneficial vaccines, rabies comes to mind.

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rolandttg's avatar

In humans when necessary, and perhaps 1, at most 2 in the lifetime of a dog. But states that do not allow titering (testing to see how much residual vaccine is in their bodies) which is most of them, require them every 2 years. There is much anecdotal evidence this is harmful and specifically related to the development in later life of fear of noises like thunder, gunshots, even scissors.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I am no longer vaxxing my dog. I found out that Florida requires rabies once every 3 years. My dog had her first one and then the following year I took her in (because I didn’t know better) and they gave her the yearly vaxxes and another rabies. Now I’m pissed because why did they give her one automatically the very next year!!!! They should’ve told me she doesn’t need one for two more years. Nope. Inject and pay them more money. Not any more. I’m onto their scam. Not another vax or dime from us!

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My Favorite Things's avatar

My German Shepard had an adverse reaction to his rabies shot. Within a couple of days he lost most of the use of his rear legs. It’s a struggle for him to get up. I rue the day I took him in for the shot.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

There is zero difference between the "1 yr" rabies vax and the "3 yr" rabies vax. It's just the label on the vial and the local regulations or ordinance! A 5 lb Yorkie gets the same exact dose as a 100 lb German Shepard. My pups got their "puppy vaccines" in 2018. I'll never let anyone jab them again, unless MAYBE the rattle snake vax, I'm still researching that. Mine are "inside" dogs so the risk is small, but it's still there. We've found a few rattlers in the yard.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Giving pets shots is the main revenue stream for vets.

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Sparky's avatar

My dog is four mos. away from being 16 yrs old. We are done giving him the DHPP (unsure if I got the name right) and any other except the 3 yr rabies, which is legally required. Read a book by a vet saying dogs get too many vaccines and that old dogs don't do so well with vaccines. The vets said "it's ok, he still has immunity". Then why were they going to give him more DHPP if I'd been ok with it??

My sister said a friend took her old dog to the vet and they gave him a vaccine and he died on the way back to the car!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I don't want to vaccinate my dog, but where I live the groomers won't accept dogs that don't have vaccine papers. What a racket.

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Annie's avatar

My one dog has an enlarged heart after receiving the rabies vaccine. Prior to it absolutely no heart issues. I told the vet no more and we did the titer test. My vet didn't push back which leads me to believe I am not the only one questioning the shots too.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Good job, Annie!

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

It is given far more than needed in dogs and cats, but that doesn’t change the fact that the vaccine is one that actually protects from rabies. I despise the Pharma control of veterinary care, and will do my best to protect my Poodles from them in the future.

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The Great Resist's avatar

How do you know it protects? Because a pHarma trial says so? Vets are at least as captured as doctors. I don’t trust ANY of them anymore.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Yep. Dogs do NOT need rabies every two years, as the shot lasts for many, many years. If one researches, they’ll find, just as with humans, pets and livestock are yet another huge revenue stream for all kinds of shots and drugs.

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Fla Mom's avatar

My sister's little dog had a terrible seizure disorder, requiring my sister to carry Valium 24/7. She got a rabies titer, and it was very high, so she held off giving her rabies vaccine, and the seizure disorder disappeared. One of my dogs was due for the 3-year rabies vaccine this year (and ConcernedGrammy is right, my vet told me it's the same as the "1-year vaccine," they just give it every 3 years because they realized they were hurting dogs). Anyway, I got the titer run instead, and her level is fine, so no vaccine, but the vet said that under Florida law having a protective antibody level doesn't count as vaccinated. Makes sense, right? /sarc. So, if for some reason my dog bit a person, she'd have to be quarantined for 10 days. Both dogs got the leptospirosis vaccine, because the vet has seen serious cases locally, and my dogs get exposure to swamp and to wild animals. Roland, I didn't know about the connection to the fears, but my sister's dog was afraid of thunderstorms, and I've had two dogs with fear of gunshots, one of whom is also afraid of thunder. Can the fears lessen with cessation of repeat injections? Perhaps I'll find out over time.

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Eric's avatar

I researched this some time ago. I believe that rabies vaccines are given AFTER the fact, not as a preventative. That's a big difference. I'd go through the protocols if I knew for certain I was exposed to it. I'd need to do more research.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Veterinarians are required to get them once, and then be tested annually for antibodies. Probably others who are working in an area where they are likely to be exposed. I was thinking more of the dogs and cats, who get it prophylactically.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Debbie Beatty's comment is correct (and note that humans get titers, not blind re-vaccination, because of the adverse events it caused). The post-exposure therapy is rabies immune globulin, pre-formed antibody to 'vacuum' up any virus that was able to enter (similar to tetanus immune globulin if you step on a nail). The vaccine makes the body produce antibody (which can wane over time to be less measurable) but it prepares the immune system to quickly ramp up production of antibody in case of exposure. The vaccine is primarily used in small sub-populations at risk for inadvertent/unrecognized exposure. You would definitely want to get post-exposure prophylaxis for a likely or even a possible exposure, as once signs and symptoms begin it's a virtual death sentence.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Debbie Beatty, that’s what I USED to believe, too. No longer, once I found the real facts, the truth.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Annette, I completely agree. No vaccinations or immunizations are safe or effective.

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Peter GL's avatar

I think there was an ancient Chinese medical practice that required one to give their doctor a monthly payment as long as the doctor kept you healthy. Payments would top once you got sick. At that time the doctor was not allowed to pass you off, rather was required to heal you. Great incentive to keep you healthy. Since our Brandon loves the Chinese so much, maybe he should implement such a health practice

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TB's avatar

The cynic in me says that this is a recipe for doctors quickly knocking off any patients they don't think are curable...

... however, a similar system where you go in for treatment and only pay after you are recovered, might work. (If they don't get too many people "disappearing" afterwards to dodge payment...)

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Elaine Russky's avatar

How about a bonus when a patient certifies he is cured.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Peter, this is in essence how the HMO model started, but the incentives turned out to be perverse, as suggested by TB.

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Jay Horton's avatar

You forgot the important part: Administrators running the show. I understand there is a special place for them.....

Later Jay

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Dr. Richard Moulton's avatar

Joseph Ladapo, formerly a physician on staff at UCLA, was shunned by his school and fellow doctors for standing up for ā€œfollowing the data.ā€ Before he could be fired, Ron DeSantis hired him to become Florida’s Surgeon General...and a great one he is! Tucker Carlson had an excellent interview with Dr. Ladapo on Tucker Carlson Originals on Fox Nation (I don’t know if Tucker’s interviews are still available there). Moral of the medical story: Persecuted doctors, come to the free state of Florida! You are welcome here!

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Eric's avatar

Well, yes and no. Certain Apex Predator Hospital Administrators still infest the landscape here, but yeah, you're right....overall, Florida is your best bet.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Ascension has never dropped the mask mandate, apparently. They own many of Florida’s hospitals and Urgent Cares. It’s certainly not black and white that Florida is the land of the free. That’s more of a political slogan and we know how trustworthy those are.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Ascension is awful. When they buy a facility, doctors and nurses abandon it like rats leaving a sinking ship.

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Christy's avatar

Thank you! Haven’t been to a doc since all this started for the simple reason I don’t want to put myself in a position to tell a doctor he doesn’t know what he’s talking about. Ugh

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I agree that Dr. Ladapo is a great example in how he stood up against the Covid lies but not all hospitals in FL. have rejected the mandates and big Pharma. Mayo Clinic Jacksonville is not taking unvaxxed patients. Their whole system has embraced the hoax.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Wow. So they don't follow the science, the real science. Very telling. Helpful, too, as it tells us that it's a place to avoid.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

The medical professional has ALWAYS been like this e.g. what happened to the Austro-Hungarian doctor who discovered handwashing that another commenter mentioned the other day...

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Janet's avatar

He was put into an insane asylum for his heresy.

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M VARR's avatar

Gov Hochul wants the Authority to do this in NY.

Attorney Bobby Cox is fighting her in the courts.

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Jay Horton's avatar

Yeah, what's up with her??? She is a nut case on steroids (just my humble opinion).

Later Jay

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Good Lord, I was unaware of this, thank you.

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Janet's avatar

He died there after being put into poverty and intense prosecution by his so called peers.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

How very sad, that people who give so much are often so horribly treated. May he rest in peace, although I suspect he now dances with the angels :)

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The Cry and the Covenant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_and_the_Covenant / https://archive.org/details/crycovenant00thom/mode/2up was the book I was thinking of + he wrote The etiology, concept, and prophylaxis of childbed fever https://archive.org/details/etiologyconcepta0000unse

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

His story was made into a movie in the 60's which I saw as a teen

None of these recent comments mentions that it wasn't simply hand-washing he tried to institute---the attending doctors were coming to the maternity ward from the morgue, where they had been doing dissection of corpses for the med students, wearing the black frock coats worn by all at the time--black cloth hid any blood stains or assorted muck.

My own highly educated grandmother (A.B. Mount Holyoke, 1906, Latin) lost her second baby--say, 1914-- to hospital infection. After that, the other children (four more) were born at home. At least it was the baby and not the mother herself, given that more babies came and the firstborn did not lose his mother.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

What a sad lesson for your mother! I am sorry!

My father said when his father and uncle decided to take his mother to the hospital (this was around 1930 in NY), it meant she would die. For at that time, if you went into the hospital, you didn't come out.

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Peace's avatar

Dr. Semmelweiss

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Yep - I thought there was a book about him or by him uploaded onto Internet Archive...

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Peace's avatar

I first heard of him in the classic book "None of These Diseases"

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

The Cry and the Covenant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_and_the_Covenant / https://archive.org/details/crycovenant00thom/mode/2up was the book I was thinking of + he wrote The etiology, concept, and prophylaxis of childbed fever https://archive.org/details/etiologyconcepta0000unse

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Peace's avatar

I can't imagine the devastation Semmelweiss must've felt knowing he had the key to keep these women alive. But the many doctors who have been censored surely do - I can't imagine their emotional pain.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Semmelweis didn’t discover hand washing, he figured out not doing so between autopsies and baby delivery was causing childbirth fever.

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

Yea - that's right The Cry and the Covenant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_and_the_Covenant / https://archive.org/details/crycovenant00thom/mode/2up was the book I was thinking of + he wrote The etiology, concept, and prophylaxis of childbed fever https://archive.org/details/etiologyconcepta0000unse

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RunningLogic's avatar

And so many doctors were very enthusiastic Nazis in the Third Reich šŸ˜•

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

The Cry and the Covenant https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Cry_and_the_Covenant / https://archive.org/details/crycovenant00thom/mode/2up was the book I was thinking of + he wrote The etiology, concept, and prophylaxis of childbed fever https://archive.org/details/etiologyconcepta0000unse

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William's avatar

From first hand experience: It sucks.

September 2021 was when the proverbial mud slinging began for me... Labor Day weekend, specifically. So forgive me if I come across a little salty this month. 2 years on, I still miss my old job, and eagerly await the coming accountability.

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Peter GL's avatar

wouldn't hold my breath

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Tom's avatar

Higher education, including for the medical profession, is not years of schooling and training and honing of expertise. It's rote memorization and the ability to give the approved answer. Not the right answer, the approved one.

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rolandttg's avatar

the 80 hour work weeks are part of the indoctrination. When you are that tired, you simply fall back on the "training " you had. To a large extent, especially with cancer doctors, their years and years of "education" are not dissimilar to the people who are getting advanced degrees in some woke field, CRT, or the like. Bullshit in, bullshit out. If all the training you got was simply wrong, it matters not how many years it took to get your license. It just means you were that much more brainwashed than someone who is allowed to study and read anything they want. It's why I believe I know far more about cancer than the vast majority of oncologists.

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Eric's avatar

You're using too wide of a brush. There are plenty of smart cookies out there - my wife being one - who understands that all the answers are not in the books.

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Tom's avatar

You're absolutely correct!

And those like your wife agonize over the state of what we call "professions" and "education."

It's painful for rational people to see the fallacy of the "Appeal to Authority" used to trump logic and reason.

It's a shame when the unworthy cheapen the efforts of those who actually earned the letters that follow their name.

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Eric's avatar

There are some areas in healthcare where it's absolutely necessary to follow proven protocols and procedures. Osteopathic surgery.....hell, ANY and EVERY kind of invasive surgery requires a great deal of schooling and training.

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Tom's avatar

Agreed, that case by case this is necessary.

But to claim expertise when one is just repeating by rote is a mistake. An expert knows why the procedure is in place.

This may not be necessary for a practitioner. For a policy maker claiming expertise, in my opinion, this is essential.

Appeal to Authority was used to shut down people with expertise who had legitimate reasons to dissent. E.g., Cary Mullis and Robert Malone. "The Science" repeated what was taught by rote: "For a virus, we vaccinate."

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Roger Beal's avatar

Q: Describe a governmental / societal system that carries the Appeal to Authority to its logical end.

A: Nazism and/or communism.

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WP William's avatar

yes, higher education in general equals less individuality and critical thinking and certainly NOT opposing the instructors and grade givers and accolade dispensers. Voting progressively on issues and candidates follows, so FREE higher education, subsidized, cheap or forgiven loans fosters MORE Gvt. control and fealty by those rewarded for their "service" to the State becoming educated, advancing and joining the Collective Cult.

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ConcernedGrammy's avatar

I interviewed for a job once where "a" college degree was required. It didn't matter WHAT discipline the degree was in, just that you had one. The interviewer told me it showed them that person could be told what to do and how to think for at least 4 yrs. šŸ¤·ā€ā™€ļø I didn't get the job - probably because of the look on my face when he said that.😳 (I'm one of those involuntary face makers! 😁) Now, I don't even remember what job it was, but him saying that certainly stuck with me.

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WP William's avatar

If only wearing masks and staying 6 ft minimum apart had been in vogue then, the interview would have only revealed your eye language. My University experience was decent mostly aging out impartial or less vocal liberals and foreign instructors; i'd say though that my generation of Academics then decidedly overwhelmed the revisionist stampede as that is how one made their name and was rewarded by the putrid Commie system of Higher Ed.... many students of color (and all the guilt-ridden lesser pigmented community) were activated to hate the very system that White Western Liberal Greco-Christian Culture had herded them into and gave them voice to infiltrate and infect everything they touched with the diseases of entitlement, grievance, selfishness, separateness from the nation and victimization by it in every way. The Liberalism and Progressivism of the 1980s-90s is now left far in the dust as a mere steppingstone on the way to ravage and remake University education a Stalinistic Maoist mind hijacking that will endure a lifetime.

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TB's avatar

We used to do that, but I think now we'd accept someone even without a degree if they could prove they were competent. I think it was a lingering attitude of "anyone who's intelligent will automatically get a degree", which is thankfully now starting to fade.

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Freebird's avatar

Eric - this is your best comment to date. All the sarcasm is funny, but this is heartfelt…and very true.

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Peter GL's avatar

In my simple mind I believed the premise for doctors was "first do no harm". Also, the premise for science is to question the beliefs to wee if maybe there is a different or better solution. I guess are were fortunate to have Mr Science himself (the rodent Fauci) to thank for debunking these premises

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WP William's avatar

"First Do Not break ranks"

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Roger Beal's avatar

"Second: Do not bite the Big Pharma hand that feeds us."

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s more accurate šŸ˜•

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WP William's avatar

more therapeutic

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Fla Mom's avatar

Still true for the real medical scientists; we're just much scarcer on the ground than we all thought.

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CGL's avatar

Yes! I am a nurse and have been for 16 years. I am disgusted and saddened by what has become of my profession. I am lucky that I am in a conservative state, but all this gender nonsense and all the horrible things are happening at my hospital. I have been able to speak out and I tried to dissuade as many people as possible not get those shots. I am trying to get people to really think about what medications they are taking and if they are necessary. For now, I am able to do that. We’ll see for how long.

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Kate's avatar

About 6 or 7 years ago our daughter, who scored a 93 on the MCAT in her first try, was often questioned during medical school interviews about her stance on abortion, which she vehemently opposes as everyone should, at most institutions this removed her immediately from consideration of enrollment despite her other over the top credentials. ā€œEthicalā€ selection was not new then and has only gotten worse - choose your doctors with this in mind.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

So interesting--I can see inquiring about stance on abortion for a Supreme Court Justice --if you are a Democrat congressman--but for a med school? Killing off future clients.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s simply disgusting 😔

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Kate's avatar

Sad for the future of medicine for sure! Do no harm may one day be a footnote!

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Fla Mom's avatar

They saved her from being subject to them in medical school.

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Elisa's avatar

What is sicker is that a lot of the objections are and were from the beginning based in fact and not opinion. How many medical people were ignoring facts?

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Susan Banks's avatar

Eric, I am not a Doctor or a Nurse and was not even close to a Hospital during this freak show!! I’m like your Wife. I don’t know if I’m even coming to grips. When am I going to stop being so mad and cry when I read these awesome comments by you and so many other regulars on here! The news keeps getting worse!! Thank God your Wife has you!! Because it’s terrible to not have anyone. Like my own Family. God Bless you Both!! I’m praying we all start seeing some light at the end. I do know about Med Beds. Learned a lot about them. It has been Hushed up though lately. I had heard the Deep State took out a whole Warehouse of them that were ready for roll out! They work on 5G (the good 5G, if there really is one!) They will heal any problems, even missing limbs regenerated. The Military has been using these for a long time!! Technology is way more advanced than we have ever known. It will make Hospitals and Doctors obsolete!! And Disease, Any Cancer, but of Course the Deep State again has held us back!

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Fred's avatar

šŸŽÆšŸŽÆšŸŽÆ!

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Roger Beal's avatar

What you said applies to young men and women who hoped for a military career.

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Eric's avatar

I suppose you could create quite a list. Fireman, police, sanitation worker, pilot,.......,.......,..."

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Politico Phil's avatar

"... Pfizer admitted it had no idea what the jabs might do or might not do in the long run, or whether they would even work at all..."

Oh they knew! Because they specifically designed the jab to have the deadly long-term effects that "they didn't know about."

You know, I take that back. I don't think Pfizer had any idea what was in the shot which was why they were SO CAREFUL to clearly delineate in THEIR contract that they had no idea what it might do and they had no responsibility for. All they knew was they were going to make a LOT of money. The shot was developed long before the plandemic in a collusion of nefarious cabal sociopath elites and Gov't military black ops and then handed to Pfizer with instructions not to look inside. And the Government politicians of the world were eager to sign up to this backward contract because they were controlled by money and other influence to buy the jabs and then push them. The military grade psyops went all the way to the top of the political ranks. I may not know all the details but this much is pretty clear. I also believe there will never be any accountability for any of this except for a few sacrificial public lambs like Fauci and Co. Tell me I'm wrong.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Thank you! None of this was accidental or unknowingly or mistake. It was intentional, specific, planned out, coordinated, evil and purposefully to kill and harm the people.

I despise any talk of how they didn’t know or it was a ā€œmis-stepā€ 🤮

If we’re gonna be honest, then let’s BE HONEST.

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rolandttg's avatar

That was truly excellent. Thanks. I'm keeping that

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Willing Spirit's avatar

This needs to revisited very regularly!

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daverkb's avatar

Indisputably so. One can write reams as to all the criminal linkages. There is more than enough for a grand jury investigation.

This is no innocent Boy Scout field trip. This was the biggest criminal enterprise perpetrated in the history of the world.

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Politico Phil's avatar

To the point, I don't believe the FL grand jury convened by Desantis is for the purpose of bringing criminal charges which suggests to me it is a placating smoke screen.

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daverkb's avatar

My all time favorite is Doris Day's Que Sera, Sera which used to spill out into my Mom's kitchen from where the old timey radio was planted on the countertop. And so, God willing, we shall see whatever will be, will be. (But like you, I am not getting my hopes up.)

It is always difficult for us to know what's what in the House of Deception. But try the following out for size.

A longstanding question regarding China is ... why did China go along so 'easily' with the Covid Deception. Many people will say, "Well, they are all in on it!" But big powers do things for their own reasons, not to benefit competitor states. And boy! China, the CCP in particular, had and has to this day huge problems. These includes a real estate disaster, very heavy debt loads and shaky banking, CCP leadership problems and so on. I figure that the CCP needed as much of a financial cover up as much as did the Federal Reserve to obscure the meltdown of liquidity late August 2019 into first Q 2020 which threatened to spill over from America and European central banking into the rest of the world. This was probably the biggest factor in the timing of bringing in the Covid Deception. I am guessing the CCP went along with the whole nine yards because the CCP needed as badly cover for their own un-godly messes as much as did the Federal Reserve. And just another incarnation of the Coalition of the Willing.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I added an edit.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I agree with what you edited too. It still doesn’t change my comment. The ā€œwhoā€ knowingly committed these crimes goes way above ppppffffizer. Agreed.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Pfizer and Murderna had nothing to do with creating the DeathVax. That was all on the DOD and our beloved Intel community.

And it was enabled by Trump.

THAT realization is why I turned against him. He’s in it up to his elbows.

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Pixie Prissy's avatar

My understanding is the Moderna shots were produced and ready to go sitting in inventory in March 2020. Pfizer was starting to test theirs in April 2020. Project warp speed was announced by Trump May 15, 2020. My guess is Trump was set up by the players behind this to say we can get this done really fast and you will look good. But in the end it was already done. Trump was set up I think by the evil perpetrators of this scamdemic.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I believe this is correct.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

President Trump hoped to quiet the mass hysteria and prevent the destruction of the economy and the devastation of American lives brought on by the lockdowns. People were demanding a vaccine!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I believe they were developed way back in 2016 but not mass produced until 2020. ā€˜The science’ may even go back further, I may have read here in C&C that the vax formula goes back to ā€˜02 or so.

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TB's avatar

I think that's in reference to MRNA vaccines in general; they have been under test for decades(?) but not approved for anything until now. The way they work, they can be very quickly "updated" with a new genetic sequence, so they could easily produce them with the sequence for COVID as soon as it was discovered/invented/whatever-your-theory-is.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

That's my take on it too. He was viciously slammed for promoting Hydroxy and Ivermectin, wasn't he? Then he made the mistake the rest of the sheeple made and "followed the experts."

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe! And we may never know unless one or more people come forward with what went down.

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Politico Phil's avatar

If only we had a law enforcement agency with the charter to investigate and prosecute such crimes! Oh wait, isn't there an FBI and 50 state AGs?

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CStone's avatar

ā€˜Fred’ is just on here to ā€˜dis’ Trump. A demonRt operative, or just ignorant.

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daverkb's avatar

Maybe so. And it is very smart and wise to remember the good Trump did us.

For example, it is far better to know that we are a Banana Republic with Banana Republic elections than to dwell permanently in a La La Land of Lies, head in the sand permanently deluded.

It is true Trump is severely compromised as to covid and the implications are alarmingly wide. More so than most people think. But on the other hand I do have to admire someone willing to step up to the plate, take on the system, and then suffer an unprecedented Law Persecution ... AND NOT BACK DOWN. Such a Man at some level is exhibiting a great degree of character. Most of us here in Comments probably could not withstand the intergalactic stress levels of it all.

Trump? Not just a Black and White choice. And please remember that the apex elites always want us to see things as being Black or White as being the only choices put by them on the table. That is how they control us other than by terror, panic and fear. When we choose another choice, our own best self-interest, then we truly are compelled to think. And think in complex ways.

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FH's avatar

I’m in the middle of listening via the evil Y T a discussion led by Jordan Peterson on the Book of Exodus. I am learning a lot, even though I get impatient with some of the discussion; relevant to your comment is how the participants (including Dennis Prager, am not familiar with the others) are noting that while many of the passages indicate Moses’ strong character, there are clearly ā€œproblemsā€ such as the time he killed the Egyptian during the time he was still in the Pharaoh’s household; and that’s when he ā€œran awayā€, so as not to face certain death at the hands of the Pharaoh. They further point out that so many great men of the Bible possessed flaws, often significant. Yet they were chosen by God for missions that would make lesser humans blanch.

This helps me be more accepting of DJT being just like the rest of us: a mix of virtues and flaws. While I cringe at his vanity, my polestar about him is that he could easily have left the world of politics and perfected his golf game, ensured his real estate around the world continued to be profitable, enjoyed his time with Melania and Barron; instead he has put *everything* at risk. And without his presidency we might never have know the extent of the evil that has infiltrated every level of our governing structures. May God protect him and his beloved close ones.

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daverkb's avatar

Your points are well taken.

Only the Lamb of God is without sin, without flaw. Thus we cannot find perfection in Man.

Our best president of the United States by character was probably George Washington. One of his well know contemporaries is said to have remarked, "He had the best judgment of us all."

I wish I could remember the speaker of that remark, but I can't.

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CStone's avatar

Exactly

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!!

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Oh dear. Cult45 does not appreciate it when you question their little Orange God.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Condescension and insults. You reek of troll.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Projection.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Trump was / is a great leader.

Certainly has some negs.

Like when he was talking about implementing bio-monitoring something something. Still not sure what that was about.

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CMCM's avatar

So Fred.....Which person do you support for President? Will you admit to liking anyone?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Probably won't vote. (First time ever, btw.)

RFK is the only candidate who seems to understand the threat that the Intel apparatus poses to our Republic. But I'd have to overlook his pro-choice position and de-register as a Republican voter.

DeSantis is a strong pull - proven track record and actually doing the things that the GOP has been trumpeting for the last 40 years.

If it comes down to Trump and literally Satan, I'll sit it out.

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https://www.statnews.com/2017/01/10/moderna-trouble-mrna/

"His presentation instead focused on four vaccines that the company is moving through the first phase of clinical trials: two target strains of influenza, a third is for Zika virus, and the fourth remains a secret. "

One wonders what the secret one was?

"Founded in 2012, Moderna reached unicorn status — a $1 billion valuation — in just two years, faster than Uber, Dropbox, and Lyft, according to CB Insights. The company’s premise: Using custom-built strands of messenger RNA, known as mRNA, it aims to turn the body’s cells into ad hoc drug factories, compelling them to produce the proteins needed to treat a wide variety of diseases.

But mRNA is a tricky technology. Several major pharmaceutical companies have tried and abandoned the idea, struggling to get mRNA into cells without triggering nasty side effects.

Bancel has repeatedly promised that Moderna’s new therapies will change the world, but the company has refused to publish any data on its mRNA vehicles, sparking skepticism from some scientists and a chiding from the editors of Nature."

Triggers nasty side effects? You don't say. And they knew long before the plandemic.

"ā€œI’m sure that five years from now we’ll look at 2017 as the inflection point that Moderna went for a liftoff,ā€ he said at Monday’s presentation. ā€œWe have a chance to transform medicine, and we won’t quit until we are done and we have impacted patients.ā€

How precient. Five years from 2017 puts us in squarely in the plandemic of 2021. And they have definitely made an impact on patients.

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WP William's avatar

A Dam-ed Patsy (?) how many knives does he need in his back before he realizes what the F is going on??

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well he knows now. I do not believe he would be willingly complicit with a scheme to murder Americans.

In a similar vein, DeSantis pushed the shot very heavily when it first came out especially for the seniors but I do not believe he would be willingly complicit with a scheme to murder Americans.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Well, he could have just played the game with them like ā€˜W’ and McStain and Romney and McConnell and on and on and on and not gotten knives in the back.

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Porge's avatar

Yes!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Merck had been working on one but gave up because the results were underwhelming. Does that sound like a reasonable avenue to take for a major pharma co? or does it sound like Pfizer offering a sweetheart deal?

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Go read the contract that the US govt signed with Pfizer. This link spells out why Trump's contract with Pfizer locks them in tighter than a drum for any and all litigation against them. https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/10-reasons-to-criminally-charge-pfizer

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you. This is exactly the kind of thing Trump would do: to insist on a contract that puts the liability on the manufacturer which is a proper contract. I do believe Trump's motivation was to work for the people, not the corporate interest.

To my mind, this means Trump had no idea of the lethality purposely designed into the product. He would not have gone along with it anymore than he would go along with the NeoCon's war agenda. I think it is safe to say Trump is and was not a part of the genocide cabal. Now that he knows, he is the one and only deadly threat to the NWO they face. There is not one other politician I can think of who represents that kind of threat to them. He is the only one that can represent and focus the American populist movement against them.

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daverkb's avatar

I've seen delegate and senators in the General Assembly of Virginia 'get played' all time. That's being asked to carry bills that seem good on the surface and not having the faintest idea of who or what agenda is big picture behind it all.

The entire Super Agenda (21 and 30, WEF, etc.) runs on deception. Also on cowardness and fear ... and probably a whole raft of control files. And might as well throw in Invincible Ignorance in liberal doses.

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CMCM's avatar

Virtually none of the people in Congress read more than the first paragraph of any bill, and they never know what they are voting for. Why would knowing any true facts about covid be any different? Like with the bills in Congress, they "trust" what they are told. Remember Pelosi's statement that "you have to vote for the bill to find out what is in it."

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daverkb's avatar

I know this to be true. And it was true in the General Assembly of Virginia with some 3,000 bill on the docket at a time. I remarked to one leading Republican delegate saying, "We cannot read and well-consider 3,000 and some bills, and so we know that you cannot either. So, why not limit the number of bills that can be put forth to a manageable number?" This delegate said that he and another leading Republican delegate had considered this, "But we decided that the Right of the people to petition government could not be restricted." Well then, there is some trouble in this thinking because one can say that 'too many bills' and 'too many to well consider' is in effect assent to maladministration of government ... and therefore a breach of the civil magistrates duties of trusteeship. Furthermore, the Right of Petition is for grievances ... most notably for violations of the Rights of Liberty. In a sense, the Right of Petition as pertains to an unlimited number of bill put forth for consideration is by common sense a self-defeating line of argument.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes, I agree. And the media also promotes what’s on the surface to convince people to support or reject a proposed bill.

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daverkb's avatar

For the people, it's shadows in Plato's Cave. For the media, it's the media executives that are point and the talking heads just do what they are told to do with a few exceptions who eventually get fired for thinking and talking too much. For the legislators, they the handlers let the legislators think that they are smart and important. And so the handlers, controllers talk to the legislators in a more slick and convincing way. Some in all groupings know exactly what they are doing and are gleeful at getting the fat pay and the illusion of power. Almost all of them to a man and a women like the illusion of being someone important. But I can tell you the it's all a fleeting illusion thinner than paper. Having been 'someone' locally and in a very modest way, one is forgotten very, very quickly the minute one retires from the field. And it's like one had was never there. Near instant obscurity!

The great lasting satisfactions in life are God and Scripture, family and the few reliable friends one manages to make in one's life. The best of friends are Truth, Honesty, Faith and Fidelity.

The Matrix was probably the best depiction of the virtual world around us. For most people, it is No Exit ... just like the play. But nobody notices.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I agree, 100%.

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My Favorite Things's avatar

Trump still thinks the vaxx is the greatest thing since sliced white bread. He still brags about the lives they have saved.

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Politico Phil's avatar

When was the last time he said anything about that? I ask cuz I don't keep track of that kind of thing.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah he’s definitely said it in the past (and far too long for my liking tbh) but I don’t know that he’s said it recently?

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Can you source that, please? I want to verify before I trust.

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Franek āœ…'s avatar

There is nothing in this link that exonerates Trump from any kind of negligence or wrongdoing regarding operation warp speed and the creation of the toxic fake vax. According to Trump, He is the "father" of the vax.

Anyway those contracts are probably completely and totally bogus and part of the psyop ... made to look like Pfizer was going through the process.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

The contract is with the DoD not Trump. He trusted, that was a mistake, but he did not make the vaccine, Pfizer did.

Pfizer signed, then lied about its being "safe and effective" which was a stipulation in the contract. THEY took the money, they are liable.

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Politico Phil's avatar

The facts do speak for themselves.

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Franek āœ…'s avatar

Who was commander in chief of the DOD when the contract was signed? The top dog. The big enchilada. Mr. "The Buck Stops Here" (haha jk)

The orange guy. He made a mistake? Well that's nice of you to point that out. Of course, He hasn't admitted to making any mistakes, so....

Pfizer should be held liable. But they are not the only ones.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I see contract law is not your strong suite :) Pfizer signed the contract, Trump did not. Pfizer agreed to the terms and took the cash, not Trump. Are there clear, frequently repeated stipulations in that contract that demand a specific level of performance, that demand a "safe and effective" product, yes.

He trusted, that was an error, a mistake. But when you are lied to by your appointed officials, are you then at fault? IMO, no. As for additional liability, absolutely the list is long, but Trump is not on it.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Anti-Trump alert. Paid poster, or simply driven by TDS?

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Another one.

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CStone's avatar

Sigh. They’re so afraid of ā€˜orange man’. ALL of them fear him. It’s beginning to be cartoonish. I’m wondering if he is linked to the two ā€˜nn’s’ and iron horsey duo. Benn-jamin hasn’t visited us in a while with his Ukrainian horse šŸ’©. So he comes on here acting the part of outrage, since his Ukrainian šŸ’© has fallen apart.

Makes one wonder......

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Oh, Dear God, may this gain traction, grow legs and become a monster of a weapon against the evil!

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rolandttg's avatar

I agree with your first statements, but not the last. The DoJ, FBI, CIA, huge parts of the military, State Department, MSM, and pretty much every other major US 3 letter agency was wholly controlled by the Deep State, who despise Trump. How the heck do you even arrest anyone when every agency with that power is your enemy? There are plenty of things I didn't like that Trump did, but if you ever needed a lesson on how limited a President's power is, the Trump presidency was the litmus test.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Right! And it occurs to me that it appears the entire Federal Gov't needs to be done away with. Seriously, the entire structure is corrupt and aligned AGAINST the American people. But the way they are spending the country into oblivion it is probably only a short time before the whole structure implodes the way the Soviet Union and the ruling Politburo imploded.

I have to add Americans have one advantage the poor Russians did not have when their government abdicated. Even if the Fed Gov't collapses and the Fed structure of the Constitution dissolves, the American people STILL have the governmental structure of the States to fall back on. We won't completely collapse into chaos the way Russian society did. But it will get ugly, especially in some of the big cities. Something to think about.

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WP William's avatar

They'll try to unleash our own police, military, foreign forces and mobs, Leftist militias and criminal gangs, more plagues, drugs and poisons, food and infrastructure destruction, it'll be scorched earth on us all IF we don't just surrender and shut up about what they're devising and constructing. Many States are in on the "Fundamental Transformation" and deconstruction of our nation.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Agree, it's going to be important which state you live in. I think there is going to be a division between the liberty states and the blue states.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Your Sheriffs are the last line. We should all ask our Sheriffs who's side they'll join when the Big Guy tells them to move against us.

Will they stand with us or them?

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daverkb's avatar

I agree. The strength of a state is in the integrity of the supporting positions of power. And that is how corruption ultimately collapses the state. Weakness to the point that all substance withers away.

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AJF's avatar

Having grown up in NJ I'm very familiar with Mafioso tactics. These very tactics I whole heartily believe are used against politicians. They are simple, evil and very successful. In other words, "Do/Say this.....or something bad happens to a loved one. What would YOU do under those circumstances?

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daverkb's avatar

My guess is more of this goes on than I would like to think.

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AngelaK's avatar

The Dems do act like mafiosi; actually perhaps I am insulting the Italian mafia..they acted within the organization for control of business. They never went after anyone's family. There were some codes of honor.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It's my contention that this is how the WEF works in its Young Global Leaders program. Besides, the younger you are, the more plastic.

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CStone's avatar

Pence was in charge. And we now know him for what he has always been, a traitor.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

30 Pence. What a total sell out. He would have been part of Based Patriot History if he'd thrown those disputed election results back to their states.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Evil S.O.B. I watched him during the Covid briefings and I saw the evil in him. I knew ā€œtwo weeks to stop the spreadā€ was a reptilian lie. Pretty sure Penc has scales on his torso.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Oh yeah? Then who are you gonna vote for? Since you’re striving for perfection, have you got someone else in mind that can pull us out of the cesspool we’re being dragged into?

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Politico Phil's avatar

That's a good question.

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Peter GL's avatar

Ghostbusters! Sorry, I read your question as "who you gonna call?"

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Well, you have a point. Who are you going to call, when you need the most powerful ghostbuster. GOD!

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RunningLogic's avatar

šŸ˜†

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daverkb's avatar

If a better candidate uncompromised ran, I vote for him or her. But I don't see anyone one the horizon.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Natalie and Clayton Morris on Redacted, this March, held up to viewers a copy of doc from ~Feb '19 showing DOD involvement. Have not been able to find that particular show (I had taken a screen shot of the doc but computer lost files--which is why it's now at the shop). If anyone remembers this particular show, please share link or date?

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CStone's avatar

I would love to see that.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Nope, you were correct the first time.

They most certainly knew, and their internal testing, the results, their PowerPoint presentation clearly and definitively list the side effects. They knew and the proof is there to show they did.

Fraud negates ALL contracts. Pfizer did know and is liable for ALL injury, ALL costs as they under long standing international contract law. https://karenkingston.substack.com/p/10-reasons-to-criminally-charge-pfizer

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Politico Phil's avatar

Thanks for clearing that up. I do believe there is no way they could not have known one way or the other.

There is only one thing left to do. Get Trump in office and go after the entire corporate structure and all "suppliers" and tear Big Pharma to the ground, sell off their assets to reputable pharma companies and criminally prosecute everyone involved. (Also, eliminate the FDA, CDC and all associated Fed agencies.)

I know the enemy will do ANYTHING to stay in power. I am fearful Trump will be physically eliminated.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I agree with all you say. I think the only thing holding them back from killing him is that he, with one tweet was able to summon 1.25 million people to the Capital on Jan 6.

That's a LOT of people.

And that was because of election concern. What size crowd do you imagine would turn out if he was killed?

I think they are more likely to go with declaring war on China based on a FF somewhere, declare Emergency Powers and "postpone" the election. That would be it's own, probably short-lived, kettle of fish.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Yup...thought of that too and it has to be a real world possibility.

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I think is is at 20-30% at this point. Part of the reason the deep state may be so upset with North Korea's Kim meeting with Putin, is he most likely was not there to chat about weapons sales. I think the lead BRICS+ team see a possible and pending attack on China. China, Russia, North Korea and Iran together could take down US/NATO in a day. Who would be left alive? No idea.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Oh my! It just gets better and better. We may be bereft of a Fed gov't sooner than we anticipate.

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Porge's avatar

I mostly agree with you and Phil but the wokesters, trannies and drag queens in our military would get their asses kicked šŸ™„

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CStone's avatar

Or Russia

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Frances Lynch's avatar

Apparently from what I can tell, Team Biden see China as a soft target. But I think they are a bit freaked by Russia's military strength so I don't think they will go that route. I do think they are so blind to the strength of the relationship between Russia and China, that they honestly think if they attack China, Russia will not come to China's aid. Boy are they in for a surprise.

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CMCM's avatar

I have the same fear about Trump, and frankly, given the feverish pitch of TDS I'm surprised no one has tried thus far.

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Kelly's avatar

How do you know they havent?

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WP William's avatar

Each Global Vaxx designer and producer colluded in some manner, mixed a few additives and artificial colors and flavors to make their own formula and then carried out the second phase of the KILLING operation they were assigned and paid off and/or threatened to carry out. Publicly avail mRNA data and studies show the ill-effects and limitations and problems, let alone the 50+ years of studies and experiments carried out by GOF, DE, and other Bioweapon means to pull off a soft less-lethal global culling of SARS CoVid followed by damaging, sterilizing, slow-killing VAXX jabs. And this is only ONE of the arrows in their quiver. It's a game to them, they the HUNTERS or Trappers, and we the targeted prey.

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AngelaK's avatar

Can someone tell me how Meghan Kelly was that stupid? As a journalist, didn't she ever do any independent research?

Initially I thought maybe it was forced, but the boosters never were! And she got sick after the booster (and all the kool aid she drunk). What kind of autoimmune do you suppose she has?

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Frances Lynch's avatar

The positive side of this? When you have so many seeing a famous and liked person like Kelly saying, "I was wrong." Many sheeple can breathe a sigh of relief and say, "So was I." They will not take a further shot in most cases. Then it all comes down to who they blame and how mad they get.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Psyops and ideology. I told my son that making a decision about the vaxx based on ideology was a recipe for disaster. I think many have made that mistake and regret it.

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TB's avatar

I'm guessing it's "all my friends were doing it, and I trusted the government to not lie to me".

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TB's avatar

I suspect that those who are sufficiently "important" in the company will be careful to have paper trails showing that THEY weren't the ones who fudged the clinical trial data, that THEY only saw the data showing that it was "effective" and not showing any harmful effects, and that therefore THEY "didn't know" and can't be prosecuted (they hope).

Still, I don't doubt that lawsuits will come and it will be thoroughly tested. Think along the lines of the tobacco lawsuits... either they knew it was harmful and committed fraud, or they SHOULD have known, and were negligent - if it can be proven that the company as a whole had enough data to show serious risks that were not disclosed. (And if the public outcry is sufficient... even though it theoretically shouldn't make a difference!)

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Frances Lynch's avatar

I think if we should be fortunate enough to get Trump, and if he brings on board JFK Jr, teams him with Ron Johnson, Dr. Martin, and other astute, strong minded people you will see Nuremburg 2.0 with criminal trials, charges of genocide, and ultimately hangings. I see the Pharm companies world genocide as distinct and different from the tobacco companies crimes and punishment. For that took place in a very different time, and tobacco use had been around for centuries.

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SS's avatar

Also we’ve known what those contracts said for a year + at this point, no? Didn’t India release a copy of the contract that they refused to sign. I remember watching a media clip (in English) from India where they spoke about how insane the terms were.

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Jen's avatar

Albania too, iirc.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Wow, I guess they have done a good job of censoring that information from the American public.

They lost. As David Martin maintains, the cabal is dead. They failed to impose the NWO on the entire world and now the world is increasingly in revolt to their agenda. And now the American people are beginning to realize this.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I sure hope you are right.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Was it Brazil which Pfizer insisted had to offer sovereign assets (land?) as collateral in purchasing the shots? That would imply a loan....

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daverkb's avatar

Phil ... HONESTLY!

It is as equally valid to presume that if Pfizer had prior knowledge of the deadliness of the injections, that they also would be "... SO CAREFUL to clearly delineate in THEIR contract that they had no idea what it might do and they had no responsibility for." Indeed with prior knowledge of bad outcomes Pfizer would have an additional incentive to add such language into the contract.

The language of the Project Veritas videos suggest a far greater a dark awareness within the Pfizer company than naivete would suggest.

At the very minimum Pfizer knew that they were using the world's population as one giant lab rat experiment. They knew beyond a doubt that they were the middle man for the DoD for distributing what was an experimental medical procedure. This now incontestable. And with no informed consent, this at a very minimum this would constitute reckless negligence. To wit, Pfizer was a middle man in the largest lab rat experiment ever conduced on Mankind.

In fact, if Pfizer did not know what they were selling but pretended to, then criminal fraud.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Absolutely right. And that's the bottom line and all one has to know.

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daverkb's avatar

Roger that!

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Steve's avatar

Spot-on P-2…!

Ladies and Gentlemen….we have a BINGO…! You nailed it Phil…100%

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Porge's avatar

PFIZER: " You can't sue us for fraud because we told you we were frauds! SO THERE! NA NA NA NA! "

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I agree with you that they knew exactly what was in these shots. Remember, this was part of the de-population strategy from the global elites!. They were meant to kill!

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Willing Spirit's avatar

Well, not accountability through the system that should handle it, but is irreparably broken. But I ponder how the Truth is the Truth and can never be anything other than the Truth and to act contrary to the Truth carries Universal consequences beyond the accountability systems man creates. I have no idea how that plays out in the Justice of the Universe, but I’m positive it does. Evil doers will reap the evil they have sown.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I am sure you are correct. Why? Because the Allies 'won' WWII. So at conclusion of hostilities, they were in position to jump on the conquered--and so, Nuremberg trials. But now, the powers are the perpetrators.

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Flavia's avatar

As a nurse now, I see this trans BS everywhere. They make lil badges w the trans colors talking about the pronouns n nurses wear that shit along w their "I got the covid vaxx" badge. All while being obese, lacking in vitamin D, drinking monsters, and eating the unhealthiest hospital meals. There is a true health crisis, but nobody wants to address it.

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I agree. At the start of this COVID mess, my friend - finishing up school to become a doctor - was appalled with my stance on the jabs. She picked on me on occasion sighting whatever they told the students in medical school to say, "I trust science and healthcare professionals over a meme, but that's just me..."

She, of course, has collected every jab offered and takes somewhere between 20 to 30 medications daily. None of them vitamins, but all "solutions" to "problems". I asked about them once. "I take for THIS for THAT, but the side effect is THIS so I need to take THIS to offset THAT, but because of THAT, I also take one of THESE..." and so on. She's in her 30's.

I asked her if she ever heard, "A patient cured, is a customer lost."

She had. Nothing sunk in. I fear this is the future of the industry. Oh well...

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Flavia's avatar

Yap. So sad. I've been asked about why I don't have the covid badge... n when I reveal I'm not vaxxdd they just don't know what to say. I think they shocked I'm working among them lol.

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Peter GL's avatar

careful, if they have their way it may change

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

Do they give you a purple heart as well when you get vax injured?

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Flavia's avatar

Nah. They just ignore u and tell u ur crazy and that they are safe and effective.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

That future is now, and has been so for many years.

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skeptic bruh's avatar

I frequently wonder if it is at all possible to avoid services provided by individuals who were educated during the lockdowns. I can't help but think anyone in school during that time, learned absolutely nothing. Anyone training from home did not learn a thing. There will be a massive gap in education and quality service. Hopefully, technology will be able to bridge the gap, but I don't trust that as much now either.

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Jacquie's avatar

How do you deal with all that? Must be hard.

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SB's avatar

Not only have they not addressed it, they are normalizing obesity, making it the new beautiful.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Wait for this news every morning... Am I the only one???

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Lyndsay's avatar

I think there are a few thousand of us who eagerly await it! checking the email, Where is it, when is it coming, I’m almost done with my coffee; uh what’s Jeff doing, is Jeff ok? If it’s late we all get a bit fidgety and keep looking for it and yes, the relief when it arrives!

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RunningLogic's avatar

This is totally me šŸ¤£šŸ˜†

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Jen's avatar

Me too, and I am a few time zones away šŸ˜… so I read it with first coffee.

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NAB's avatar

No pressure, Jeff!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

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Steve's avatar

Dear Lily,

LOL — I’m in the same boat….! Six days a week — I’m ā€œrefreshingā€ my email — over and over and over — until I see EL-Jeffe’s posting. Ahhhhhh….here it is….now I can officially start my day…ha-ha! šŸ˜‚

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Verve's avatar

Same...

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Guilty as charged

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CarO Lyn's avatar

My husband lives and works weekdays in a city 3 hours from our home. You just described my thoughts process every morning waiting for my good morning call from him and, since Covid, waiting for Jeff’s C&C post each morning. I had not recognized the parallel šŸ˜‚

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Peter GL's avatar

The other day I told my wife "Coffee and Covid is here", to which she replied "do we have any more coffee?"

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Sherry 1's avatar

That made me laugh out loud! šŸ˜‚

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

HOW ABOUT SOME MEMES TO GO WITH IT? ;)

PRIDEsteria: Best Gay Obama Memes (Left a Bad Taste in Larry Sinclair's Mouth!)

- You decide, Barack O'Bottom, Bareback Obama, BLM (Barack Likes Men), Barack likes hotdogs and more gay Obama memes as Tucker's Larry Sinclair interview drops - don't Joan Rivers me!

https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/best-gay-obama-memes-larry-sinclair-interview

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Debra S Heard's avatar

Saw a post awhile back of a woman saying she went to high school with Obama in Hawaii. She said he was somebody you would not let to walk your dog with. He was "dating" older white men and doing the same crap then.

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WP William's avatar

Bare-ick Pirola O'Bombya the darkhorse candidate who came from nowhere with no qualifications for the office other than a nice suit, beaming smile, swagger, professorial voice, and his skin color.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I love the new middle name šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£

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WP William's avatar

for a man with a diversity of identity and names, and variations of autobiography why not?

What a complete Pirola he is!

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TeacherLori's avatar

It helps to live on the West Coast.šŸ˜šŸ˜„

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Peter GL's avatar

small consolation for the politicians most of you suffer with there

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TeacherLori's avatar

Hahaha!!! You got me there!!!šŸ˜‚šŸ¤£šŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļøšŸ¤¦šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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SB's avatar

You are not alone. The one thing I make sure to read every day is C&C.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

I'm not a doctor. My DIL is. Her father is. Her uncle is. Her aunt is. Her sister is a PA. In 2021 my youngest son, her husband, un-invited me & his 2 brothers from Thanksgiving and a chance to meet our new grandson, nephew because we 3 refused to be jabbed. My ex in all her glory, "you're not a doctor- they are." To which I replied that I am not a veterinarian or a gynecologist, but I read and think better than most and I can tell a cat from a pussy. And I can smell a lying government rat from across the country. My mother's 93rd birthday would have been today, but she got the last booster in August last year with her bestie and they both passed to strokes within 3 weeks. My sister is now on her 3rd surgery for retinal clotting. She famously told me that if I attempted to visit my mother (living with her) that I would be arrested. I did anyway 3 months before she was murdered. And now we can all see the lies, but shocking to me at least, is the reality that fully 1/2 of America will line up again, point fingers again, attempt to force compliance again, alienate family again, weaponize government again, demand you abandon your rights for the greater good again all for a host of reasons that have nothing to do with the pandemic and everything to do with denying that they were all complicit in the lie.

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

It is astounding. A few weeks ago a local nurse went on NextDoor and declared that covid cases were up, that many of her coworkers had covid, and that she was out of work because of covid. She said she'd had 4 covid shots but it still kicked her butt. Was telling people to start wearing a mask, etc. One guy replied back and asked HOW MANY WERE HOSPITALIZED for covid? He said THAT was more important to disclose. Then people started attacking him. Saying that they had no problem wearing a mask. That he's an idiot, etc.

My point is... I was disturbed by these comments. Many people haven't learned anything the past 3 years. It's going to be the same BS again.

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AJF's avatar

No shots, not sick. No one asks me why I'm never sick. I ask them however "why do you keep testing/ "getting" COVID?" Guess what they say?? "Well if I didn't get the VACCINE I'd probably be dead by now!" Yea, OK

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Alice P. Liddell's avatar

Yesterday, I asked my husband's cousin how she got covid since she's had 4 covid shots.

She told me she's glad she got the shots because it would have been worse otherwise. She plans to get the newest booster in October because she doesn't want to get covid again because it gave her a terrible headache for weeks.

Crazy!

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AJF's avatar

Yea, there's no hope for these people I'm afraid! I DO wonder, do they think I am just "lucky?"

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Those people are infected with a brain worm. (Not literally, but might as well be.) They are mentally ill and cannot see how illogical and unreasonable they are.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

I'm sorry to hear that after making it through 93 years of life your mother was taken down by Pharma. They're evil. When you say "And now we can all see the lies..." does that mean your son and DIL have finally come around? I do wonder how those who excluded us unjabbed from family events and spewed hatred towards us really feel now. I did not meet our grandson until he was 2 years old...even then, I bet the parents were nervous to let me around him since I had never been jabbed.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Thanks, and sorry you had to go through the same. Like you said, the answer is more "sorta" than "yes". Since I had COVID, treated it with IVM/HCQ and recovered in 72 hrs. (they were shocked & called it 'lucky') I was finally permitted to see him at nearly 1y/o. In fairness, I am in SD (the last free state) and they in NC so travel & schedules. The new in-laws are pretty sure that a knuckle-dragging, redneck, Trump supporting, gun toting (always- I am a nationally ranked shooting competitor as well) couldn't possibly out- think DOKTAHS. And in a now famous stare-down moment I asked the good 30 yr internist if he ever had the guts to treat a single one of his many patients against CDC guidelines. To which he stammered and I said, calmly HOW. MANY. DIED?

So to say they've come around would be giving them grace. But, they no longer fuck with me...at all.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

I like you, King.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Thanks. MUAH!

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CStone's avatar

I do too!!! You are the GOAT, King!

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Juliann's avatar

Me too! Do you by chance have a KCCS?

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Oh! Got it- thanks to the hint. My sainted mother claims she knew nothing of that precious pooch when she named me. Since the ol’ man’s name was converted by the USArmy/AirCorps to ā€œKingā€ she was just making me junior.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

KCCS? Sorry- no idea what that is & neither does Google.

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AJF's avatar

Good for you! Takes guts to speak your mind these days!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

^^^ This guy for global world president.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

DAMN! Good for you! Your description of yourself and your braveness in confronting the "good 30 yr internist) reminds me of my birth-father (I'm adopted but am proud of the man (who I located 20 years ago) who fathered me).

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King Cavalier II's avatar

Brave? No.. pissed? Yes. There seems to be a God complex that many MD’s have adopted that has now been crushed forever.

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NAB's avatar

KC, does your sister associate her retinal clotting with the shots? (It's a pretty clear correlation between them and that particular adverse event).

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King Cavalier II's avatar

She did tell her twin sister not to tell me because I would claim it was the jab. And, yes, she did tell me and yes, I did claim it and provided a stack of research links as well. Then the budding idiot went and got boosted with my adult niece (who is a quite lovely liberal) and they're both now sickAF from their 2nd shingles as well. Which is why I have ZERO faith that people will see this for what it is.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

I have a good friend who had the same experience of being shunned and restricted from going to a wedding bc they weren’t jabbed. There’s a reason. God is separating the wheat from the chaff. Thank Him daily.

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Juliann's avatar

Same with having to be tested before I could ā€œmeetā€ a great grand. I said no thanks.

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AJF's avatar

Yes I refused those idiotic "tests". All hebbening again in my lovely flooded out city in VT! I've no doubt all the school children will be masked up before the month's end! Some have never taken them off!!

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CStone's avatar

Exactly

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

Interesting.....I have wondered if there was a connection between the bad and shingles....seems there is.

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Juliann's avatar

I had wondered same. On a ā€œwellnessā€ visit my PA asked me about c-Vax. Told her No. then she started pushing the shingles shot. Told no again. She said a weird thing (to my thinking) IF you suddenly break out with shingles, come in for a shot immediately. I wonder now what’s the connection. A family member got shingles after taking the cov-vax.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Wait, come in immediately for what kind of shot? The shingles vx? WHILE your body is mounting a heroic immune response? They want to add fuel to the fire? Not to mention, shingles typically erupts when the immune system is depressed/compromised (so not surprising after cov-vax). Sure! Let's add another assault! These people are not using the brains God gave them. Swallowed their indoctrination whole. Shaking my head...

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AJF's avatar

Yes, a teacher in my former school (fully "boosted") never had shingles is suffering with it ...his entire upper body!!

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NAB's avatar

Oh my goodness. That level of ignorant obstinance can't be penetrated.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

amazing

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

If they can't figure it out after a 2nd bout with shingles...time to get the shingles vaxx!!!

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King Cavalier II's avatar

They never had shingles. Maybe I wrote that poorly. They were in bed because of the 2nd shingles vax. Keep pouring these magical cocktails in and wondering why you’re always sick?

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CaliforniaLost's avatar

Jesus wept, that might be worse, 2 shingles shots?!?!?!

My brother is the same way, completely insane. Of course, he and one of my cousins blame unvaxxed people like me and my wife for the amount of covid variants and those two mental midgets think we should be sent to medical camps, so the "good guys: can live their lives again.

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NAB's avatar

Yes, the new shingles shot is a (2) shot series. According to my age, I am now eligible for shingles and the pneumovax. Not getting any of them.

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

it is because of their denial yes, but more pointedly it is their denial of their own mortality, of the fact that life happens outside their control. the bureaucratized healthcare industry peddles this illusory control via allopathic care and pharmaceuticals .. and COVID shots. people bought in. they are afraid of death, and yes, afraid of being wrong but mostly afraid of growing old themselves. I am sorry to hear how you were treated; my family is the same. Unfortunately I got the Moderna initial shots and am still dealing with autoimmune issues here, but my "testing it out" prevented me from having my husband or children get that poison. so partial win.

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Alison Smith's avatar

Maybe not half because i think people are realizing what the jabs do. If they are not sick from the jab then I guarantee they know someone who is sick or has died from them.

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King Cavalier II's avatar

You have more faith in the ability of the same people who voted for POTUS Peters and continue to support him (46%) than I do.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

So sorry for all that you have went through. Also I admire your strength.

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

It is so sad to have this divide families.

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Jen's avatar

I'm sure that's by design

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Brainwashing is a tool of the crime syndicate.

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AJF's avatar

I'm so sorry...pure evil

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FourWinds's avatar

"I am not a veterinarian or a gynecologist, but I read and think better than most and I can tell a cat from a pussy." Amen! Common sense seems to be lacking in so many places and independent thought is non-existent in so many.

I lost most family 3 years ago over this crap. They are not coming back. I just got used to feeling sad over their loss, but I have no regrets for refusing to comply.

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Now He was telling them a parable to show that at all times they ought to pray and not to lose heart, saying, ā€œIn a certain city there was a judge who did not fear God and did not respect man. There was a widow in that city, and she kept coming to him, saying, ā€˜Give me legal protection from my opponent.’ For a while he was unwilling; but afterward he said to himself, ā€˜Even though I do not fear God nor respect man, yet because this widow bothers me, I will give her legal protection, otherwise by continually coming she will wear me out.ā€™ā€ And the Lord said, ā€œHear what the unrighteous judge said; now, will not God bring about justice for His elect who cry to Him day and night, and will He delay long over them? I tell you that He will bring about justice for them quickly. However, when the Son of Man comes, will He find faith on the earth?ā€

— Luke 18:1-8 NASB1995

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

Jeezum, I was sure I'd get in the first comment!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Janice’s needed to be seen first šŸ˜‰

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

šŸ¤·šŸ»ā€ā™€ļø

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Debbie Alton's avatar

"after being selected President."

Welcome to the dark side, Jeff. šŸ˜†

- 81 million votes my a$$- posted sign at vet clinic in my town.

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

He may have slipped on that one! I think he's always called him "Resident" Biden.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or former vice president.

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Tom's avatar

Or any variation of resident and Robert Peters.

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Verve's avatar

That's my favorite!

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All That Jazz's avatar

It's not a slip- he was SELECTED! Not by voters, though.

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

No no, what I meant by a potential slip isn't the "selected" part. It's the "president" part.

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Donna in MO's avatar

That is the ring tone on my phone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z4XWiKZNMOU

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CStone's avatar

I wonder how it would go if Trump picked her for his running mate????

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FH's avatar

I have mixed views on this. She is smart and quick, but same question I had about RDS. Better - as in useful - for their respective states?

The leviathan of the federal government is so HUGE. I think state level action is the only way to begin to undo its hold. Elect officials who are willing to go without federal funding. Elect county & city officials who are willing to take the lead on doing without federal and state funding. I believe that’s the way to break up TPTB. But then, I am an idealist, and never fully grasped the allure of money and power, which ensured my failure in the corporate world.

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CStone's avatar

How do you download it as a ringtone (I’m not techno fluent)

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Donna in MO's avatar

I am not either! I have an android. I cranked it up on my laptop, used the voice recorder on my phone to record a clip (starting with I can't afford the groceries) and saved it. Then went to sounds and vibration > ringtone > hit the + button > chose the saved voice recording as my ringtone. I am sure there is a more sophisticated way to do it but it worked for me. I actually got the idea from someone else in the C&C comments when that song first came out, loved the idea, so I figured it out. Gotta love the C&C comments!!!

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TB's avatar

If you are on Android, you can just copy the audio file onto your phone in the same way you copy photos off (plug in USB to a computer, select "copy files" from the menu that pops up on the phone and use it like a thumbdrive basically). Then you can select it from the ringtones menu (you might need to do a web search for exactly how to do that depending on model). Basically, if you can play it as music on your phone, you can also select it as a ringtone.

If you have an iphone, I can't help you, other than it's likely to be more complicated.

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Tom's avatar

"Selected."

Jeff is using language carefully so as not to participate in their lie.

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Tom's avatar

Jeff does a great job of resisting the corruption of language!

No offense to Jeff, but these are sad times indeed, when it's commendable to merely say what happened in a truthful manner.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

My husband turned on Fox News momentarily much to my disdain. šŸ˜‚

What we heard was the Doucy dude (don’t even know his name really) talking about all the ā€œmigrantā€ aka illegal alien kids being enrolled in NYC schools. Not one is required to be ā€œvaccinatedā€. They are getting a 30 day grace period šŸ™„. All childhood vaccines including polio, measles, chicken pox etc etc.

The response: parents are livid! Why?

You might want to sit down for this šŸ™„

Parents are livid because all these kids showing up to school with chicken pox and measles could give it to the vaccinated kids!!!! Seriously!! That’s what he said!!

I looked at my husband and said, ā€œThese people do not even hear themselves!ā€

Then I turned to my son and said, ā€œTHIS is how you know these ā€œvaccinesā€ are a fraud!ā€

I just shook my head. Wow!

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Pthalocyanine's avatar

the lice is the thing that is REALLY gonna get those parents. where I live we always have a lot of migrants and illegals and our schools are just head lice city. when illegal alien kids are crawling with lice the office tries to call parents to get them but no one ever comes, so they sit in the halls all day. it's awful.

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MayBella82's avatar

Easy fix to head lice: coconut oil and tree tea essential oil. My daughter got head lice... put a few drops into the coconut oil the put it on her hair and scalp for 20 minutes. She shampoos her hair they were gone.

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NoWay's avatar

Listerine, the hard amber stuff, works too. Let sit with a shower cap 30 minutes or longer. Rinse or not, your choice. Repeat five days later, then again 7 days after that. You don’t even have to nit pick.

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MayBella82's avatar

Awesome... though I will say that you only have to use the coconut oil/tree tea oil once and an added benefit is your hair feels wonderful!

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Tom's avatar

Don't give them any ideas; they might have a "cootie shot" in the works.

With bonus mRNA.

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Peace's avatar

Schools in NC don't exclude students with head lice. Parents of the afflicted student and their peers are notified and given information. It's not shown to be a serious health issue, but more an annoyance.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

Even Steve Doucy must be very tired! It can’t be easy to remain steadfast in your opinions when you’re surrounded by leftists everywhere.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Ah that’s his name! šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

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CStone's avatar

The son’s name is Peter.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Yes. I did know his name. Just couldn’t remember the dads name on fox. Peter is the one who asked the WH why the WH staff treat Joe like a baby. šŸ˜‚ šŸ˜‚

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M VARR's avatar

Mayor Eric Adams can simply

END NYC SANCTUARY CITY STATUS and turn over criminals to INS for deportation.

He won't do this simple task.

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Jaci's avatar

NYC plays victim....seems a common thread based on race....never good

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CHop's avatar

Governor Abbott could declare an invasion, but he won't as he wears the WEF pin.

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MaryAnn's avatar

NYC is the New Detroit, with Chicago fast approaching. It seems rats, two-legged and four-legged, have no predators to worry about.

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M VARR's avatar

Until a cure can be found for collectivist liberalism, it's best for America to keep them concentrated in a few districts, while scientists work on a cure to limit the damage they do.

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Bitesandpieces's avatar

He’s just playing the room. He MUST show concern for his audience but in the end he will NOT do what is necessary.

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M VARR's avatar

A President is not a dictator.

He must get a majority of the 535 power and wealth mad congress critters to do what is

necessary.

Try herding 535 feral cats into a pen and you will understand what he is up against.

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Blair's avatar

After reading through your article, it appears to me the jab rollout was a government/military-led operation and not a Pfizer-led operation. I may be wrong, but I think it looks like governments used Pfizer as a front organization to manufacture and distribute these vaccines. This is not excusing Pfizer in any way shape or form, but it's especially chilling that this looks like it was some kind of military operation. I've thought we were in a war since March 2020. I've told people it's governments against their own people and I've been called crazy for it. At first it was a strong intuitive hunch, but that's what it looks like to me.

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CHop's avatar

Dr. Birx was head of the National Security Counsel and a Colonel in the Army. She was calling the shots. She just wore grandma scarves and was promoted as a Fauci apprentice to hide that she was military.

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CStone's avatar

She looks a lot younger now that she’s no longer hiding behind those scarves. Pence looks a lot more eewww now that he’s been exposed as a pawn and a traitor

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Fla Mom's avatar

I don't think she was in the NSC, and certainly not the head of it. She was a Colonel in the Army, but retired before COVID. She was senior to me, and I retired in 2009. She headed the Army's HIV research program at WRAIR for some time.

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CHop's avatar

Her appointment to the Task Force was heavily solicited by Pottinger, the director of the NSC, and she was given the full support of the NSC staff. I stand corrected.

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M VARR's avatar

Dr. Scarf went back into the shadows.

Wonder what she is up to now?

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J Boss's avatar

Birx is CEO of a biopharma startup now. Wonder how she earned that gig?

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NAB's avatar

There are several Covid commentators who have long argued that the response was turned over to DOD starting with the PREP act. I think Dr. David Martin is a good resource on how it all works.

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AJF's avatar

Yes, check out Sasha Latypova and Katherine Watt

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rolandttg's avatar

You are right, but Pfizer and Moderna only distributed and ran interference. ~220 defense sub contractors around the world did the actual manufacturing , which is part of the reason there is so much variability in the jabs.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

It has always been so, governments against the people. Covid just made it evident to those who were deluded into thinking otherwise.

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CStone's avatar

Most are still deluded

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M VARR's avatar

Corporations run the government.

Governments execute corporate plans.

He who has the gold$$$ makes das rules.

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rolandttg's avatar

There is a name for that. it's called Fascism.

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Blair's avatar

In this case, either way, you have the same result. This is a disaster of unknown and epic proportions. To say it's pure evil would be a vast understatement.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

Don’t forget about NSSM 2000 - the top secret Nixon admin policy that makes global population reduction official USGovt policy.

It’s all coming together. Genocide.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Gov also runs corporations based on all the evidence, including the Brandon LLCs.

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Franek āœ…'s avatar

Yup. The deep state runs the government and the corporations.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Sasha Latypova found the contracts online sometime in 2022. All DoD. HHS did not contract with pharma. There was nothing "health" related about the entire operation. The products were ordered as "countermeasures" (by DoD). You are correct, it was a military operation. A primer on what she has pieced together: --

https://rumble.com/v28x6zk-sasha-latypova-msc.-nsa-team-enigma-covid-19-countermeasures-evidence-of-th.html --

Katherine Watt is a paralegal and has done a deep dive into how administrations colluding with Congress for decades have put legal codes in place so everything they've done is indeed "legal" though not lawful. There's a distinction. From her substack: --

https://bailiwicknews.substack.com/p/american-domestic-bioterrorism-program --

It's an ugly picture. The deeper you go, the more shocking and practically unbelievable. Don't be surprised if you experience cognitive dissonance. Remember Jack Nicholson in A Few Good Men, "You can't handle the truth!"? And then he goes on to tell the truth and it's bad. This is worse. It's happening. Don't lose hope. The more people that know the truth, there's nowhere for 'them' to hide. I contend it's the bankers behind it all. For centuries. The visible people are all useful idiots. The people of earth are going to get through this. It's going to be nasty for a while yet though. Welcome to your new reality.

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Blair's avatar

This is a wealth of information. Thank you for your thoughtful response. I greatly appreciate it!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

šŸ‘Absolutely. Digest, seek further, pass it on when appropriate. Sooo many puzzle pieces. Canada fires, Paradise, CA and Lahaina are also operations. Dane Wigington at geoengineering (dot) org (I believe) has been shouting from the rooftops for decades. Look up Edward (Ed) Dowd (GETTR): former Wall St. guy. A quant. He's on top of the numbers of what is happening. Dr. David Martin; James Roguski; Dr. Tess Lawrie; Neil Oliver for observation and commentary (has a youtube channel). So many more. Neil Oliver with Tess Lawrie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOLkb6daw7w&t=1079s

...We're going to make it out of this, this attempt to enslave humanity by chip or clip. But not without some loss of life, and not next month or next year. This truly is a spiritual war. As awful as it is, remember to laugh, especially in derision of THEY (The Hierarchy Exploiting You). It infuriates them, deprives them of energy they need to survive (they need our fear; no fear, they lose their ability to control) and lightens the atmosphere or energetic "aura" of the planet. Every little bit helps. Ripples, you know. (It can also work the opposite way with fear. Seen any plandemics of fear recently?) Learn and share. Live long and prosper šŸ––

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Blair's avatar

Thank you! I greatly appreciate it!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

South Africa govt colluding with Pfizer to push the Jabs...

I was looking into the several African leaders who were anti-Jab that all died months after resisting the global Jab efforts. All the 'fact check' sites show these were just coincidences.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/jul/12/facebook-posts/theres-no-evidence-these-politicians-were-killed-o/

Tanzania's Dr. Magufuli was quite interesting. "Magufuli, one of Africa’s most prominent COVID-19 skeptics, mocked the effectiveness of masks, banned COVID-19 testing, prohibited doctors from diagnosing, and announced in June 2020 that the country had defeated the pandemic through prayer."

and:

"Magufuli’s government refused to purchase any vaccines. He instead claimed the shots could be harmful and told Tanzanians, without evidence, that using steam inhalation and herbal medicines would fight off the disease."

but... he had a conveniently timed heart failure and died. His globalist replacement:

"Hassan, meanwhile, has slowly taken a more serious approach to the pandemic. She’s worn masks in public, opened COVID-19 testing centers and announced in June 2021 that the country had ordered its first batch of vaccines."

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There are no more ā€œcoincidencesā€. Nope. It’s all coordinated and pre-meditated murder in cold blood is on the agenda as ā€œby any means necessaryā€ includes that. Thanks for doing the dive into the truth.

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Freebird's avatar

BFM, your comment brought tears because I had a somewhat personal connection to it. Our daughter’s family goes to a church in Dallas where they knew a family from Tanzania. The father was attending Dallas Theological Seminary and they lived in the area for a few years. Wonderful family! One of their girls was a classmate of my granddaughter, and we knew them well.

They had returned to Tanzania sometime before covid started but remained in contact with Dallas friends. He sent the following message which perfectly confirms your story….

7-20-2020

A friend of mine asked me about corona pandemic situation in Tanzania and I told her that either we have very few cases or none at all. She asked me what we did to address the pandemic and I told her that our President directed and encouraged us to:

1) Pray to God

2) Use steaming

3) Use herbal medicine

It looks like the approach worked. All schools (kindergarten to university) have been open since June, and there are no reports of the disease. We thank God for helping us.

Then the friend suggested that I share the news of our response to the pandemic particularly the herbal medicine. Here is the recipe:

* 1 liter of hot water

* Garlic (10 to 15 cloves)

* 2 lemons

* 4 (thumb size) pieces of ginger

Blend the ingredients for four minutes

Leave the juice to cool down

Take two table spoons twice a day.

May God bring this pandemic to an end!

…..

This was early in covidmania. I saved this message because

1) I loved that common sense approach.

2) the recipe!

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LP's avatar

Fresh ginger is a *very* potent antiviral. See Stephen Buhner's books "Herbal Antivirals" and "Herbal Antibiotics." They are treasures.

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Freebird's avatar

I have that book! I use a lot of garlic as well even though Buhner doesn’t classify it as one of the best antivirals.

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LP's avatar

šŸ‘I use these books a LOT! They've helped my family through covid, shingles, strep throat, diverticulitis, and more, withOUT doctor visits.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Nice tip. Will snag those.

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Unapologetically Me's avatar

Add some turmeric. You got yourself a potent brew!

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Freebird's avatar

You’re right!

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TB's avatar

My mother used to use something similar for colds and flu... IIRC it was mostly ginger and honey - the honey helped it go down with sore throats!

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Peter GL's avatar

The three didn't have meeting with a Clintonista before they died?

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

"Purchaser acknowledges that the product shall not be serialized"

Does this mean the equivalent of unmarked bills in a ransom? By not serializing the jabs, they can never be traced back to anyone, to any lab, to any quality control (ha!) process, etc, so NO ONE can ever be held responsible for deadly batches?

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Jamison's avatar

Good question. I wondered the same.

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Lone Star's avatar

Sasha Latypova says the manufacturers know exactly where every vial goes. The end user does not, though. I am not sure how this happens.

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

They may know, but that "shall not be serialized" clause perhaps gives them plausible deniability.

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WP William's avatar

THEY have the info internally at Pfizer, they must.

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”Andrew the Great!'s avatar

But without someone on the inside whistleblowing, they can claim "we didn't serialize them, so we don't know." Plausible deniability.

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Dr Linda's avatar

ā€œSo the Pirola variant isn’t as stiff as it needs to beā€

So funny! Coffee snored out of my nose

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same!! šŸ¤£šŸ˜‚

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WP William's avatar

Stiffness lasting longer than 4 hours requires immediate medical attention

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

I had no idea Megyn Kelly was triple jabbed, I thought she was smarter than that, sorry she's sick, hope she gets better soon. The other story that stuck out to me was a nursing school wanting to talk to 3 yr olds about gender identity, like wtf, we are living amongst demons who want the family unit destroyed, God destroyed and children destroyed. I believe the demons fear God and they hate Him so they have to corrupt children's minds as young as 3 so those kids will never believe in God. I think everything that's being done to us from the jabs on down is like a satanic ritual, I mean look what they're doing to the Catholic Church thru that demon pope Francis, he is beyond evil. When I look at all of it thru the lens of satanism, it makes perfect sense to me. Im sorry but I have to laugh at NYC, when I saw Eric Adams was going to be the new mayor, I knew he would be worse than the last one and now here we are, but hey, he's getting what he handed out to his citizens, have fun watching your city implode you moron. Thank you Jeff for todays rundown.

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NAB's avatar

I was surprised to hear she had three shots too. I mean, the primary series I can just about understand with most people, but by the time that first booster was rolling out, there were plenty of people saying "WTH? I thought these things worked!" I do know that she refused them for her kids so at least she discerned that issue correctly.

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CHop's avatar

Some were saying WTF as they got covid, but the first boosters were just going through approval when Delta was hitting hard. Five governors were telling their citizens to get the booster BEFORE it went through FDA/CDC approval. GOVERNORS!!! And I know employers who did the same as well as communal living areas such as homeless shelters. Fear was still being spread hard then.

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Penny North's avatar

You would think that CV would have wiped out the homeless. Were there any reports of it sweeping through the homeless? I have not seen one.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Governors making HCQ and IVM illegal to prescribe, too. From the get-go I called this practicing medicine without a license. I don't care who their advisors were. I was astounded nobody practicing law brought a suit against a' one of them. Chief executives telling doctors how to practice medicine? Um, No. Nails abounded day after day. The coffin was sealed early in the scam for me.

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Hannahlehigh's avatar

Thank god she didn't jab her kids.

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Penny North's avatar

I agree. If you look at it as the work of satan and his demons, it all clicks.

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CMCM's avatar

We're witnessing some major Karma in New York.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Wow! Jeff you were on fire today -- so much happening in our world today. That contract signed in South Africa - I’m dumbfounded by the stupidity & pure negligence of the signee - it’s hard to believe. I hear rumblings about masking and new boosters & don’t like it one bit! Please tell me 2024 will get better šŸ™šŸ™šŸ™

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