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Oliver Closov's avatar

"Here’s a radical idea: How about give them a test on the procedure manual? A test that employees must pass, before working on the disassembly line? Is that really so hard? For airplane mechanics?"

It may not be that difficult, but it would definitely be racist.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Anti-White surge ruining Boeing? Check out the medical field:

"One professor said that a student in the operating room could not identify a major artery when asked, then berated the professor for putting her on the spot. Another said that students at the end of their clinical rotations don't know basic lab tests and, in some cases, are unable to present patients.

"I don't know how some of these students are going to be junior doctors," the professor said. "Faculty are seeing a shocking decline in knowledge of medical students."

And for those who've seen the competency crisis up close, double standards in admissions are a big part of the problem. "All the normal criteria for getting into medical school only apply to people of certain races," an admissions officer said. "For other people, those criteria are completely disregarded."

https://freebeacon.com/campus/a-failed-medical-school-how-racial-preferences-supposedly-outlawed-in-california-have-persisted-at-ucla/

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NormaJeanne's avatar

This exact article you linked to was running through my mind as I was reading C&C this morning. As a (former) nurse, I have observed a few things recently that have me questioning whether I want any of my loved ones to be admitted to a hospital. I feel fortunate that I’m old enough that my chosen health care professionals will outlive me. "Ugh, I agree the surgical medical textbooks are just way too long and complicated to read and understand," is not something I want to hear just after my anesthesiologist says, "I couldn’t get through the procedure manual for this type of surgery, but I’m sure it will be fine."

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AJ#2's avatar

Not to worry. The Electronic Health Records will tell the health care employee exactly what treatment protocol is to be used and the health care employee will be monitored for compliance. No original thoughts needed.

Also HIPPA has nothing to do with your privacy.And birth certificates and newborn screening are a data harvestors dream.

Highly recommend this site https://www.cchfreedom.org/

and this book. https://www.cchfreedom.org/big-brother-in-the-exam-room/

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

I went for my annual check up as required by Humana/Medicare. The dr office is manned by the typical corps of dei (black) staff. The overweight young woman who did the initial interview i e b/p, etc spoke some version of English. When she went over the list of meds posted in the laptop she was using she could not pronounce the names of most of them. I made her spell them. She could hardly do that. The next day i found a different doc.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

BRAVO, Joseph!! I don't go for the "annual wellness visit" anymore...I went 'off the grid' in 2022 and haven't looked back. Found a wonderful Mennonite group of doctors (husband and wife) who started their own practice in 2017 and they have already opened a second office with new, young, NON D.E.I. staff. This is in southcentral PA, BTW.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

I’m a former RN and have also gone off the grid and basically go in only for lab work.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

This off the grid doctors' office I started to go to in 2022 will draw blood and get the blood work done "in house" through a partnership with a local lab. I don't go to the "Medicare appointed" doctors at all anymore!

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Julie Ann B's avatar

The best advice I received from a wonderful, competent and experienced physician/surgeon recently was don’t even consider going to a physician under 40 yrs old. He said as he and his colleagues have worked with and trained residents doing their rotations he said they became offended if they were corrected by an experienced physician or surgeon and reported them for being critical and hurting their feelings. This physician/surgeon also said they used Google to look up discharge instructions to give to the patient. Sad. I’ve taken his advice to heart. Try to avoid the broken healthcare system.

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SuezCanal's avatar

That's exactly the conclusion I've come to. I will not see any doctor who graduated from medical school after the year 2000.

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

"Also HIPPA has nothing to do with your privacy."

True. I saw this as a working attorney when HIPPA was passed.

Privacy my ass.

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Susan W's avatar

Find HIPPA is only used to stand in the way of family members ever finding out anything about their loved ones. My 103 yr old Mom is in an CBRF/ALF and recently was encouraged to allow a hospice program to get involved. My sister and I (RN and former hospice nurse) resisted as long as we could - until the facility said she could only stay if we agreed. Since mom had been there 3 yrs and thought of it as her home, we finally agreed. BTW, Mom is simply old - she has no cancer or kidney disease or heart disease or any other "thing" that would suddenly go whacky and do her in... Except, for these hospice people muttering something about "psychic pain" and insisting on opioids for some vague knee pain. When talking to one of the staff about what exactly they planned to give her, I was told that they could couldn't tell me because "HIPPA".... We had, in fact, paperwork to the contrary but none of them admitted having any knowledge of that.

I dislike any government agency knowing more about my medical issues/care that my beloved family... or even me, in some cases.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I hope you did not accept that answer (about HIPPA preventing them from telling you EXACTLY what pain meds your dear Mom is receiving. PUSH BACK, friend...or your dear Mom will be in the "eternal side of life" very shortly--at least as soon as the insurance and/or money runs out!!

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Agree! This breaks my nurse heart. I will continue being my husband’s caregiver.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

My long time partner with whom I now live (since late 2019) have decided to use "in home care" for ourselves. I have no funds left for a "nursing home" - but I did buy "in home healthcare insurance" over 35 years ago which is still in force. So, I'll use that as long as I can - perhaps it won't be an issue and the Lord God of heaven and earth will take me HOME quickly!!

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Sad!

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Ann Moody's avatar

What does antidentite mean?

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Fre'd Bennett, MAHA's avatar

It's a humorous reference to a *Seinfeld* episode.

Jerry thinks his dentist is an anti-semite, and Kramer accused Jerry of being an "antidentite."

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

One of the "Seinfeld Gem moments" - there were SO MANY--LOL!

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WP William's avatar

AI MD will be our salvation

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

We already have cures for virtually every disease known to mankind with Frequency Medicine, but the AMA/FDA will not allow them because they don't use pharmaceutical drugs. Laws need to be changed, not AI. See harmonicresearch.org for more info.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Norma its really ironic you would post this this am.

Just last night I had a dream/nightmare where I was internally struggling deeply because I needed a surgery and I was refusing to have it. While I am terribly afraid of surgery, the last 4 years makes me distrust the vast majority of drugs including anesthetics. I don’t want that in my body so wpuld I rather attempt to treat naturally and maybe not clear the issue.

Your comment gives me even further pause to NOT treat.

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NormaJeanne's avatar

It is truly unnerving Lisa. And the decision to rely on alternative natural therapies is complicated by the fact it’s increasingly difficult to find a natural practitioner within traveling distance. The corporate healthcare system is squeezing out any methodologies other than the ones they provide. One look at who is buying up the supplement companies is frightening. The idea of starting with the least invasive treatments is a philosophy that has disappeared. There are still many practitioners who are worthy of our trust, but you have to be diligent in your research.

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Dawn B's avatar

My concerns are... if I or family get in an accident and need blood but the blood supply is tainted with self replicating mrna crap. Fortunately we all are O-neg and O-pos so we can donate to each other, but will they permit it or do it in an emegency?

Also, there are valid rumors that dental anesthesic contains mrna and then what do you do? Maybe opt for gas!??

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NormaJeanne's avatar

I don’t have personal experience with this group, but I know someone who has used them.

https://safeblood.com/

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Dawn B's avatar

Saved it. Thanks

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

MUCHOS GRACIAS - I bookmarked this as well and will check it thoroughly--have you joined this network, NormaJeanne?

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NormaJeanne's avatar

Not yet Sharon. I’ve been thinking about it though.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I like the "concept", but the administration of this group is a bit 'iffy' as they are 'trusting' the donors to NOT have been vaccinated WITHOUT any scientific testing of their blood to make certain of that fact. Apparently there IS such a 'test', but it is not used widely enough in 'allopathic medicine' circles. That is the "stumbling block" for me, NormaJeanne.

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NormaJeanne's avatar

I agree it’s iffy relying on someone’s word. But as of right now, I can’t see an alternative if you feel strongly about non-mRNA blood products.

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

My partner and I joined BLESSED BY HIS BLOOD Unvaccinated blood bank/registry

We’ve already done two direct donations.

It’s nice to have our mRNA free blood appreciated by the recipient and we can get unvaccinated blood if we need it.

You can join to give or receive your unvaccinated blood. 🩸

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Not just rumors. I’ve read about it. So I don’t get treated.

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Fred's avatar

We all hear you, but there are times… Consider your own situation apart from our generalities. There are still some good doctors. Best to you! 🙏🏻

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Margaret Allison's avatar

Fred, you are right and so right about good doctors. We have been very fortunate with ongoing health issues to have good doctors. Have to choose carefully. And advocate.

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Electronic health records- we were told if something not written in report of your actions/reactions of patient-it never happened- 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Betsy Frost's avatar

And try to get removed the item that has been entered in error into those records! That is virtually impossible.

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ACroneintheWoods's avatar

Doctors never back track a diagnosis even when they know they were wrong.

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CStone's avatar

Here’s a civil rights LAWYER…..he cannot read.

Imagine surgeons who cannot ‘surge…😁). Engineers who do not understand ‘load-bearing’ walls/pylons capacity/tinsile strength of steel…….dentists who can ‘dent’ .

https://trendingviews.com/video/4203/civil-rights-advocate-ben-crump-has-a-hard-time/

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CHop's avatar

I'm sure he is a product of the Deep State. He is the lawyer for every cop killing Black person psyop embraced by the media. He accidentally came to Akron when a girl was shot and killed and dropped the case like a hot potato when the shooter was identified and wasn't the right color. The family was not happy.

https://www.newsweek.com/nakia-crawfords-family-says-lawyer-bailed-after-learning-alleged-shooter-black-1512871

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CStone's avatar

He is a product of the education system, which was the very first target of the Deep State.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

Thank you for providing proof. Everybody knows who Crump is… he ran to defend George Floyd and subsequent black victims. Talk about a lawyer chasing an ambulance! And he cannot read. Whew!

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Betsy Frost's avatar

OMG! How? Just how have we arrived at this place? The guy should never even have been graduated from high school.

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Karmy's avatar

How did he pass the bar exam? This is horrible.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Not required in 13 states. For this very reason.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Cheated?

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CStone's avatar

Nah. He didn’t have to cheat. ThIS IS DEI

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Penny North's avatar

You figured it out.. Scary.

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Margaret Allison's avatar

And all those years I worked to save my patients’ lives. All the more reason I will be an adamant advocate for my husband. I tell everyone I am a retired nurse with a retired license! Think medical every day. Almost every hour! I’m nice about it but they respect me. I also ask questions. I have some on the “back burner “ now!

Whatever you do be an advocate for your family!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

That old adage "Doctors bury their mistakes" is becoming ALL TOO TRUE in dystopian America!! I believe I'll slit my throat instead of volunteering to enter a "horse"pital!! I remember "in the day of my youth (circa early 1950's) most people NEVER thought they would see the light of day if placed in a "hospital"--it was meant to be "where you went to cut the golden cord of life". It appears this mindset will be returning in the very near future.

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Sue Kelley's avatar

💯

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shayne's avatar

We all may need to bone up on what God has provided us in nature as relief and cures.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Yes! I'm working full-time on my own to learn all the alternative/homeopathic treatments we were never taught in med school or residency (or in continuing medical education) 🙄

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Karmy's avatar

Yes I am learning about homeopathy and herbal tinctures. God has given us what we need to heal ourselves. We are surrounded by plants that have healing properties. You need to learn about them. For example, Mullein which is considered a weed is used for respiratory issues, ear infections and other uses. Just yesterday I got stung while walking the dog, so I took 3 leaves of yarrow, which is an antimicrobial herb, chewed it to make a poultice and rubbed it on the stung area and it took the pain away and there was no swelling. Simple once you know what is available. I urge people to educate yourself on alternatives.

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

A paste of meat tenderizer and water also works on insect and jellyfish stings.

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nancylee's avatar

and assuming those aren't very close, your own urine works as well. and is generally very available.

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Ann Moody's avatar

And it’s a GODSEND for yellow jacket stings!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Reverently, - no joshing: Amen.

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Dawn B's avatar

The treatment herbs are actually weeds that most people spray with round up/glyphosate. We have a lot to learn.

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Ellen's avatar

Yes - be careful where you harvest

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shayne's avatar

So true Dawn. Our lawn is mostly dandelions and an assortment of purple and white flowers, clover and wild strawberries. All around us are perfectly manicured, poisoned, green lawns.

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shayne's avatar

Bravo. I follow several folk who know how and what to forage for many different ailments. So interesting.

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tjsplace's avatar

I find that fascinating, and with an acre to forage on, I find medicinal plants everywhere. A small start, but I have begun gathering common purslane to mix in with my spinach. Very high in antioxidants and omega-3s.

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shayne's avatar

I nibble on purslane when I'm in the garden. Don't know what my neighbors think, but yes, it's delicious. I follow Organic Consumers Association and The Lost Herbs.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Find a recent edition of the book Modern Essentials, an exhaustive and definitive text on the use of essential oils. This has been my own health insurance and pharmacy for a couple decades now. VERY easy to use and understand.

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Starsky's avatar

I had a work comp injury…basically tennis elbow… that had me unable to use a computer for months. They had me on high doses of Advil and a tortuous physical therapy that just made things worse. I had gone to my naturopath for a checkup and mentioned the elbow as an aside. He gave me a liquid homeopathic tincture to try and to my great surprise, I had relief within a couple of days.

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Karmy's avatar

Do you remember what he gave you?

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VanLife Views's avatar

I wonder if it was arnica

Which is in pellets and also a gel to rub on

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Erin Fight's avatar

AMEN!

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

God's Holy Spirit has led me to make an electronic device for viruses that works in about 10 minutes. Contact me at harmonicresearch@gmail.com for info.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

The bible mentions some natural cures.

'Then the Lord spoke to Moses, saying, “This shall be the law of the leper for the day of his cleansing: He shall be brought to the priest. And the priest shall go out of the camp, and the priest shall examine him; and indeed, if the leprosy is healed in the leper, then the priest shall command to take for him who is to be cleansed two living and clean birds, cedar wood, scarlet, and hyssop. And the priest shall command that one of the birds be killed in an earthen vessel over running water. As for the living bird, he shall take it, the cedar wood and the scarlet and the hyssop, and dip them and the living bird in the blood of the bird that was killed over the running water. And he shall sprinkle it seven times on him who is to be cleansed from the leprosy, and shall pronounce him clean, and shall let the living bird loose in the open field. He who is to be cleansed shall wash his clothes, shave off all his hair, and wash himself in water, that he may be clean.'

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S.P.H.'s avatar

I've been cleansed by the blood of Jesus. My hair is falling out naturally, has been for years...

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Bryan Dair's avatar

That sounds a bit Satanic.

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Copernicus's avatar

A good friend of mine described her very well-qualified nephew's experience being interviewed for med school. This young man is a man of Christian faith. Somehow one of the interviewers knew this - maybe from some extracurricular activities listed on the application - and took the opportunity to ask how the young man would advise a family whose young child wanted to be the opposite sex.

Now, first, it's absurd to ask an applicant for med school how they would manage a patient. They have not yet learned that sort of thing. Secondly, the interviewer used the young man's answers to recommend against his admission.

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daverkb's avatar

Let's see! Maybe answer like this! Like say ... "I would not even presume to answer a question like this without thorough medical training and instruction." End of answer!

(I mean ... how would anybody know the difference between M or F without medical instruction, let alone what's in someone's body or head ... and what with the head possibly being disembodied?)

It all so very confusing !!!

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Dawn B's avatar

Maybe refer them to a psychiatrist first to see if there are underlying issues... which there obviously are. It is avoidance, but if you go into that field, you are forced to follow unethical protocols so maybe think twice about your profession.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That really disgusts me 😡😡😡 Always the agenda über alles 😡😡😡

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

The weed out the good ones!

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Michelle's avatar

Exactly.

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CStone's avatar

Copernicus. They are all about death. Death of the human race. Makes you wonder, doesn’t it? What kind of ‘sprit’ is behind that kind of thinking??

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Stacy's avatar

There has got to be a way for this young fella. One of my favorite things to do in the face of stories like this is to look for alternatives in the emerging parallel economy. I believe this is our way out of DEI. Maybe this will help your friend’s nephew: https://lecom.edu/college-of-osteopathic-medicine/com-program/?dc=erie

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Stacy's avatar

They have a campus in Bradenton, FL (beautiful area near Tampa) and are opening a new site here in Jax (it’s no Dallas, but at least it’s in FL). I apologize if I appeared to be holding LECOM up as a “conservative alternative”, that’s not what I’m trying to say. I only mean that I suspect that this place lies outside of the mainstream, which is where our best options for just about anything seem to be popping up, lately.

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SusanMc's avatar

A gotcha question that was unethical.

That interviewer is a bigot.

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Michelle's avatar

WA state will no longer place foster children in Christian homes for this same reason... It is disgusting.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Does that mean we will be forced to choose white male doctors to ensure we are diagnosed and treated appropriately?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Asian docs? Or anyone pre-DEI (i.e. Ben Carson).

But this new crop? Yikes.

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JW's avatar

I use to think that "older" doctors were not current and looked for a younger more newly educated version but now it is the opposite. The older schooled doctors are more likely to be the best at this rate.

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PEL's avatar

And pilots!!!

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Yes. The diversity pilots are flooding in.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s definitely not confidence inspiring 😕 Especially after the excesses of Covid 😕

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Find a naturopath. Live life to its fullest. Accept death with dignity. Who knows? Maybe rinse and repeat.

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cltwilson1's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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AngelaK's avatar

Well for surgery, yes.

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Jaye's avatar

For anything. It was difficult enough getting a dx for a not-at-all uncommon (but severe) condition, from a domestically trained and experienced doc. She couldn't think outside the box.

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AngelaK's avatar

No doctor thinks outside of the Big Pharm box.

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cltwilson1's avatar

As a former doctor, I agree with that statement.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Retired? Or simply "had enough?

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AngelaK's avatar

You? Or cltwilson1? 🤔

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AJ#2's avatar

They can't. Their choices are pre determined and the docs and other prescribers are monitored.

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AngelaK's avatar

It seems like they are not allowed to speak of any ideas outside of the allowable pharmaceuticals, so they scoff when you tell them something that worked for you holistically.

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Dawn B's avatar

Docs will not be protected, risk license revocation, and can be sued if they don't go along with big medical advice/training.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Actually, there are a few that do. Most are over 70...

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AngelaK's avatar

I have noticed that..some here in FL are post retirement and don't seem to have the same career based fears.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I saw it several times in my career, and once or twice when I was the culprit, that if a patient doesn't match a familiar pattern, the conclusion is that the patient is a nut.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I experienced this when my MS symptoms appeared in the same year I gave birth to my third child. It took five years to get a diagnosis and I was made to feel like a crazy person ( oh the gaslighting) in the process. Eventually I was diagnosed and put on many medications. I felt even worse with the official DX and treatment, so four years later as my “ disease” was progressing, got fired as a patient for refusing to take MORE meds, I was on 26 daily medications at the time, that made my quality of life worse. I told my doctor that if this was as good as I could expect to get, i’d take my chances with radically changing my diet, lifestyle and herbal remedies. He laughed and told me i’d be dead in two years. Seven years later i’ve completely healed myself and climb mountains again. Now I coach people through figuring out how to heal themselves.

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Fla Mom's avatar

I sometimes wish I had another lifetime in which to be a physician who knows a lot more now than I knew then, or at least who knows how much I didn’t know then and how much I’d need to learn.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Clearly you are outside the box to a certain degree, for which I laud you, truly. Might not fit your paradigm, I have no way of knowing: have you found RJ Spina's work? He is considerably outside the box. As in, we are spiritual beings having a human experience - different words, but the same as Yeshua taught. That's where he starts. In this day and age, he expands with specificity. NOT a religion or a church: he wants nothing to do with creating anything of the kind. I'll leave it at that. No links, by choice. He's not hard to find.

My take away: you're doing amazing work in the world. God's greatest and brightest blessings on you.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I’d not heard of Spina’s work, but will look him up. Thank you for saying i’m outside of the box, because I try to be. I’ve followed Dr. Joe Dispenza’s work which is the study of quantum physics/reality applied to the human psyche. I agree with a lot of Dispenza’s scientific conclusions but he doesn’t believe in Yahweh, so some of his conclusions are wrong. I’m excited to read the work of someone who has a multi dimensional perspective and believes!!

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Subscribed/followed in an alt attempt to DM but, no dice, not functioning. Neither has my "Like" button been functioning for weeks now, more than a month. I could expand a bit on my comment but... not on the main board. You shall do what you will and decide.

Brightest blessings.

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Quiltlady's avatar

where are you located, if I may ask?

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I’m in Chehalis, WA.

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Michelle's avatar

I’m sorry... I’m in WA too, sadly...

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cltwilson1's avatar

For surgery, especially!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

That or East or South Asian docs, assuming a good command of the English language.

You might want to look into their background, (because it is for sure that no one in the admissions process has).

If I didn’t know better, I would say that we are observing the not so slow death of a culture. A looming second Dark Ages.

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cltwilson1's avatar

My internist is Korean. He never asks about vaccines and gives everyone an EKG when they come in for a physical. I'd say he's looking for something... 🤔

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

At least patients will have a baseline EKG.

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Ann Moody's avatar

My gosh, is there anything that is not declining?

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Dr Linda's avatar

I wish I could say I have received correct diagnosis from white male doctors. I honestly don’t think it makes a bit of difference.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Yeah, my mom had a 70 something, white, male doctor and he was pushing statins on her at 90 yo. He totally disregarded my questions about them having a potential side effect of dementia, never even asking if she was having any trouble. 🫤

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Disappointing to read. I was prepared several years ago with an information dump for my 88 yo mom's new GP about the link between statins and cognitive decline. Decline was observable. Her former GP retired and would have none of my upstart suspicions, and mom was not disposed to listen to me above the doctor. Surprisingly, the young family practice physician said 'they' usually take patients off statins in their 80s. Just like that, it was done: no more statins. Sadly, decline has not been reversed. There definitely is info in the literature about a link between statins and cognitive decline but I don't know if there's any advocacy in the literature for no statins in advanced age. Do you look into it? Your mileage may vary. A prayer for you.

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cltwilson1's avatar

Sigh...agreed

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Lisa Ca's avatar

There basically are none now. My cousin in a white female. She was the ONLY white person in her one medical school that would accept her. Meanwhile she had an over A+ GPA, a neuroscience internship, and speaks a foreign language. 😩

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Yes it does, cltwilson1. As long as he isn't gay -- which is also a DEI protected class.

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Dawn B's avatar

In defence of gays that hate being lumped into the lgbyq+ category, I have observed in several professions, they generally excel at whatever they do and are very good to talk to.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

There are good and bad as in all groups. Which is why positions should be based on merit alone.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

There aren't any.

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Wendy Lemmel's avatar

Is Boeing ISO certified? Most major manufacturing companies are. If so, the neglect of following procedures should have been identified by both QA and visiting inspectors.

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SB's avatar

Yea, I try to find the oldest Dr to see...

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Deb Comerford's avatar

My mom, recently developed A-fib i the ER. Had cardiologist appointment 2 weeks later and he never put a stethoscope to her chest, or as much as even felt her pulse, and no ekg.?Is this the newest generation of care givers? He was actually a PHYSICIAN Assistant.

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Susan W's avatar

PAs are useless. They think they are qualified as a real MD - with all of their biology undergrad and 2 years of some kind of Training. I refuse to be seen by them.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I don't totally agree with that statement. As a retired nurse, I have previously worked with some excellent PA's and ARNP's. To me, they were smarter and worked harder than the doctors did. They were also more empathetic, so I wouldn't lump them all in the same category. I think that I would trust them more than the doctors in some cases.

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Susan W's avatar

I have found NPs to be much more skilled than most of the PAs I have dealt with over time. When I learned that PA programs did NOT require any type of science degree to be accepted, I was totally off them. At least NPs went through bona fide nursing programs and had some degree of skill.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Many profrssionals are leaving medicine all together because it is no longer run by highly educated medical professionals, it is run by DEI infiltrated government officials. Medicine is heading towards a free fall that will be beyond what anyone imagines.... Want to go to medical school? Low scores, low grade point average. and no pre-med classes... minority... don't worry, you'll have tutors, free books, free ipads, fewer tests, you've never had better chance. It is disgusting! It is going to be a nightmare!

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The doctor were first against the government getting into medicine and paying the bill because they knew government would tell them what to do and what not to do. But they did it anyway. They took the government's money, and look where it got them.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3j88NHXUS0

Same source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ljQx2Zh4bkk

And of course there's so much more in support of your/the unfolding nightmare scenario. The old system has to be decimated before what the more aware - and heart-based vs. analytical alone, methinks - heightened, collective consciousness will create. A new paradigm. Decidedly not saying what it will look like because I don't know!! except more cooperative than top-down authority. What a time to be alive on earth - good, bad and ugly.

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Fla Mom's avatar

Beckadee, if you didn't make clear your position first, he might have been afraid you'd report him and put his medical license at risk.

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Marty Kiner's avatar

Omg my sister went in for knee replacement surgery last week. The person charged with giving her a spinal could not get her properly numbed. After several failed tries with my sister in pain they chose to go with general anesthesia! As they were bringing her out of it her heart went into AFib! She is still in the hospital!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Really puts praying people

thru surgery at the top of the list

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Fla Mom's avatar

These guys do a limited set of bread-and-butter surgeries, at set low costs, and they do high volumes, so they are 'in practice' on them:

The Surgery Center of Oklahoma

https://surgerycenterok.com/

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Great find! Their prices are online. Example: elbow surgeries are from 3 to 6 grand.

Saved the link.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

This is awful. 😢

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Oh my!!!! I would have cancelled surgery!

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NofloChick's avatar

That’s why it’s so important to take your health into your own hands. Eat right, get plenty of sleep, filter your water, exercise and get plenty of sunshine. Go to a medical doctor when you have an emergency, but otherwise use a naturopath.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

72 hour fasts are a big game changer. Lots of evidence.

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Kathy's avatar

Now that is terrifying, especially since death by Doctor is now the number one cause of death in the United States.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh 😕😡

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Jacqueline Bernard's avatar

Beware the AI in medicine which people falsely believe will make up for these inadequacies. I am a radiologist and AI is being used the generate conclusions in radiology reports. Half the time they miss the important issues or mix up the results. Not ready for prime time.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

It is truly very scary times!

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Sue Kelley's avatar

Seeing the same of nursing students. Plus a propensity to sit on their phones all day.

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Fla Mom's avatar

The double standards were already in effect when I went, in the '80s, and a colleague told me about a resident (post medical school, in specialty training) who, when expected to see a late-arriving patient at 5pm, said he had to go work out instead.

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I’m signed up for wrist surgery on Monday … I asked the Nurse how long I should request to be out of work. She said, “We don’t care if you go back to work the next day. By the way, if you need our office to fill out any forms for work, there is a $25 charge.” Please tell me where I missed the memo that medical staff doesn’t have to fill out medical paperwork … Extortion so the money can go to a Friday Pizza Slush Fund? I’m just disgusted.

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Marsha McGrath's avatar

One word: disgraceful

Of course, there’s always the hope that those ill-prepared doctors will cater to the likes of DEI promoters.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

That is so sad. Similar issues at the medical school near me, melanin being more valued than merit.

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Jeff C's avatar

Yup, the problem is not a fifty page manual (which doesn't seem all that onerous to me for something as complicated as an aircraft). The problem is a company culture where following the manual is considered optional. That's a management problem, not a workforce problem (though having illiterates in the workforce certainly complicates things).

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David A's avatar

"For whatever reason, the article (citing the NTSB report) focused on a standing 50-page manual for safely removing parts from airplanes.|"

This is a bit of a mystery, as apparently Boeing planes dissasemble themselves, in flight.

Seriousely why the focus on taking planes apart, when clearly assembly and known design flaws are the problem. What about the inspections that are internally done? Were those DEI hires? It is apparent that if a problem is not properly addressed, it will not be solved.

Yet still there is somehow a bigger play here, as Boeing issues, the incredibly botched effort to stop the assasnation attempt on Trump, the immigration issue, the failed withdraw from Afganhstan, the destruction of inexpensive energy production, with 0 affect on global temperature, the horrible ineffective COVID policy, are all incredibly counterproductive to stated goals. One can only sumise there must be different goals then the advertised ones.

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Jeff C's avatar

The fuselage plug thing was a pretty standard screw up. The plug was installed by the subcontractor who manufactured that part of the fuselage. It had to be removed for some reason and wasn't reinstalled correctly.

The issue here is multiple failures. There were employees performing a task they weren't qualified to do or they would have done it correctly. Managers assigned unqualified people to do the work. Quality Assurance either botched or missed the inspection that was supposed to ensure the work was done correctly.

What was missing in all of this was a mindset that this job is really freaking important, people could die if we don't do this right. That mindset drives meticulously following proven procedures, attention to detail, and conscientious inspection. It's a corporate culture problem that is two faceted; a cavalier attitude regarding the task and no fear of personal consequences if they screw up.

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Fla Mom's avatar

That's what I thought immediately, it's a corporate culture problem. In the military, we call it command culture. Same thing.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"failure of leadership"

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well said!

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David A's avatar

Yes, and I do not think the Boing issue is a direct part of the operational plan to dismantle the American system of reduced Government and individual liberty and responsibility. However it is a result of said policy where DEi hiring, woke employee indoctrination focusing on diversity and liberal ideology including "I am owed" mentality, and the willful destruction of disciplined good moral behaviour, all manifest as broken or severely damaged production of goods and services.

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RU's avatar

The establishment political class are clearly not working for the people who ostensibly elected them. It's becoming obvious even to average, normal, non-conspiracy-theory types that they're working for some foreign power. Everything they advocate for (open borders, energy dependence, anti-policing/pro-crime, 9 month and beyond abortions, the climate scam, the trans agenda, more spending, "follow the science" tyranny, DEI, censorship attacks on 1A, attacks on 2A...every single policy I can think of) is harmful to the US and its people. Not one thing they advocate for helps the US or is even popular with voters. They have to use the compliant MSM to hide their actual ideas from normal voters.

So, it seems pretty obvious to me at this point they are working against the US and its people, and working for someone else. Who it is that they're working for, we can argue about. But I don't think it's rationally possible to view it from a different lens at this stage.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

"It's becoming obvious even to average, normal, non-conspiracy-theory types..."

Wish I were seeing more of this.

It --

is --

so --

achingly --

s l o o o w w w.

Might be attributable to the blue enclave I live in, despite the red state?

I pray your observation will become one that is widespread. Amen.

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RU's avatar

Seriously, it's unreal how slow the process is. It's been almost 5 years since the covid insanity started and just in the last few months I've noticed people talking about it as a scam more openly in comments sections and forums (not even political forums). I've also noticed even the holdover maskers are far less common.

I'm guessing 5 years from the time the first flashes of dissent start entering the public discourse is going to be a pretty good estimate for when it will go from "crazy conspiracy theory" to accepted as historical fact. So slow. And of course most who shouted down the dissent will suddenly clam up, pretend they never did that, and act like they always agreed with the dissenters.

Same deal here: living in a blue area in a blue state. Probably does slow it down by a good bit b/c of the way politics have become identity. As in: "It's WHO I AM!!"

Though when the positions were reversed and it was about the Iraq war and the "war on terror," the red areas were slower to accept the facts for what they were. (I will say, however, the conservatives were more open to admitting they were wrong about W, WMDs, etc. than the liberals have been about masks, lockdowns, Fauci, etc.)

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Robin Landry's avatar

Why do I feel like Boeing’s problems are stemming from a controlled demolition of a mode of transportation?

Served the 15 min city crowd🤡.

To make that dream come true, a generation of dumbing down our younger generation and giving them kudos for just showing up-when they do—and you have high esteem idiots taking care of rockets that hurl us through the air at great speeds.

Is now the time to suggest that airships are a much better way to fly? Low altitudes—land anywhere—even over water if you make sure to put a hull under the cabin as we see from our ‘steam punk’ era.

Every new invention leaves us less safe. Every new generation is programmed not taught to think.

Our daughter(41) has a problem getting staff to show up consistently and do their job in a responsible manner—and this is a wine bar, not a rocket. It’s the same generation keeping planes in the airs.

This is not progress but a controlled devolution. And the controllers know it.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Check out this black lawyer trying to read a statement.

He can't. I mean, just watch 20 seconds of this.

How have we got to this point?

https://twitter.com/AmiriKing/status/1822365020153413900

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow 😳

And then you have someone like Clarence Thomas… interesting which side welcomes and attracts the actual intelligent people 😑

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Valerie's avatar

That is tragic. Our country is doomed.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

It is as long as the people refuse to assume their proper role as the Sovereigns of our once great country and restore our elections to be both verifiable and certifiable. Without those, we are, in fact, doomed.

Did you see in the UK this week where the police came and arrested a man in his house for a facebook post the gov did not like? Coming to your town soon.

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Peace's avatar

Has the wording in this facebook post been released?

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Based Florida Man's avatar

It was something tame. They are busting people for any comments about the invaders hacking/stabbing indigenous English.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I have not seen it and Id be surprised if it is publicly released.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Done and done.

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Ellen Komorowski's avatar

I agree! I don't see how we are going to be able to reverse the horrible momentum that is going on in so many areas. On top of it all, we are being poisoned in so many ways. Now, there are forever chemicals in our toilet paper and our tissues. I mean, just trying to mitigate some of this stuff is mind-boggling and exhausting!

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Mary H.'s avatar

This is the result of decades of effort from your government education system. The intentional dumbing down of America.

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Politico Phil's avatar

And there's your answer. It's really quite simple but people don't want to acknowledge it. I'm 73 and when I went to college, professors THEN were complaining that new students didn't know how to write a complete sentence. I don't even want to know how bad it is now.

Our response is simple. Abandon "public" everything. "Public" will get you killed. Use alternative systems especially for education, health care and food sources. We are on our own.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Agreed. Full advocacy for repeat, repeat, repeat at every opportunity. Particularly the part about, "...We are on our own."

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Grandma Bear's avatar

I remember back in the 90s when I was teaching in a public university a colleague told me that while cleaning out a filing cabinet, she had come across some old quizzes and exams a former professor had given 20 years earlier. She said they were much harder than anything she would even consider giving, and performance of the students was vastly superior. Even the worst grades were for things that would be considered minor then. She said "I thought I was probably just expecting too much and maybe college students had always been this way but now I can see how horrifically things have deteriorated." She was clearly rattled (as was I). Keep in mind, that was 30 years ago. I can't even imagine how bad things are now!

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

And the truth of "The Bell Curve." By Charles Murray.

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Heterodox Introvert's avatar

Precisely. Charlotte Thomson Iserbyt, 𝑇ℎ𝑒 𝐷𝑒𝑙𝑖𝑏𝑒𝑟𝑎𝑡𝑒 𝐷𝑢𝑚𝑏𝑖𝑛𝑔 𝐷𝑜𝑤𝑛 𝑜𝑓 𝐴𝑚𝑒𝑟𝑖𝑐𝑎, published early- to mid '90s. From her experience with her kids starting in the '70s, but traced back earlier.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

This summarizes everything, Based Florida Man.

This black guy, an imposter of an attorney, could not read or comprehend a Boeing training manual.

How did he get through law school? By checking the DEI box.

How did he pass the Bar Exam? Oh, of course, I recall that 13 states no longer require a Bar Exam as prerequisite to licensing an attorney. Literally because too few DEI applicants passed the Bar Exam.

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Beckadee's avatar

He got his BS and JD from Florida State.

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shayne's avatar

WOW.... just WOW

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JW's avatar

Then again Supreme Court Judge Jackson cannot define what a woman is since she is not a biologist!

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Ministry of Truth's avatar

I am shocked and chagrined! Mortified and stupefied!

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Jeff C's avatar

Johnny Cochran he isn't. And that's not just any black lawyer but Ben Crump a fairly famous civil rights attorney. I find it hard to believe he's always been like that as he has some pretty high profile court wins. Looks to me like Vax Brain.

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Valerie's avatar

He’s famous? HOW did he get out of law school with reading skills like that? How can he possibly evaluate a contract? 😮

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

White paralegals?

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Beckadee's avatar

lol

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

I think infamous is a far better word.

He typically "argues" race cases in front of "judges" s_Elected to promote "social justice" at the expense of following the law.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

He’s always been like that. #BlackPrivilege.

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Beckadee's avatar

And probably sucking on Al Sharpton doesn't hurt.

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

He covers his Ignorance with bluster.

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Barbara ( Portlander😵‍💫)'s avatar

Wow. Of course if anyone comments on his ability we will be charged with racism 🥴

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Beckadee's avatar

The infamous Ben Crump. Shows up anytime a black criminal gets shot by the popo.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Yikes!!

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Cathy's avatar

Oh my God!

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Grandma Bear's avatar

That was excruciating. If it had just been the technical medical terms, that would be one thing, but he seemed to have a problem just reading. He got through law school and passed the bar? Devastating!

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Deb's avatar

Holy cow! That is awful!!!!

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Nikki (Gayle) Nicholson's avatar

He almost sounded like he had a stroke😵‍💫

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Awful.

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Penny North's avatar

“Let’s just make the kids happy. Don’t make them do what they don’t want. We can’t stand the whining and pouting.”

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

Do you mean "We're afraid of them. They come to school with knives and guns."

?

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RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Sue Kelley's avatar

This is why doctors now work from a checklist instead of critical thinking

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TB's avatar

From my past time in aviation, I strongly suspect that the "50 pages" was just the section describing how to remove that one component. There would be a different 50-page section for each other component, and so on. (Well, some wouldn't be 50 pages, it might be just 2-3 pages if it's changing a lightbulb or something!)

We were often warned to go and print out the section of the (electronic) manual EVERY SINGLE TIME no matter how well we knew the task, because the manual might have been revised since last time to avoid a recently-discovered problem. If that attitude is missing from Boeing, it doesn't surprise me that things are going wrong.

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SusanMc's avatar

So now I get it. Somehow the people pushing Common Core must have been clued in on this waaaay back. I couldn’t figure out how requiring reading of manuals would enhance the education of students in Language Arts better than reading good literature.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

Two Words: Blackrock & Unions

Without a good Blackrock Social score, getting funding is more difficult.

With Unions, they will take you to court for making an employee take a test to prove knowledge and competence. They exist to make managing a company successfully, impossible.

Get rid of both and let a private company seek market success and they will win again. Make America Great Again. Its MAGA capitalist inclusion of all Americans vs DEI/CRT/Oppressive Gov division of all Americans and our destruction.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

You’ve got it exactly right!

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Oliver Closov's avatar

Three more words: Griggs v. Duke Power.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Maybe it will be, what they are calling an "adaptive" test:

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/breaking-the-sat

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

What ever happened to a celebration of excellence?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Years ago, I was appointed to a committee on women veterans that would meet in Washington, DC.

Apparently, the VA has a program in each medical facility stressing "excellence" that results in a monetary bonus for employees.

Gee, you have to pay them a bonus to do a good job?

Like, they just can't do it on their own?

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Kathleen Taylor's avatar

It died with school integration.

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Oliver Closov's avatar

#Diversity happened.

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

If hiring these workers is an indication of Boeing’s mental acuity... who could grade the tests?

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TG's avatar
Aug 12Edited

So if the hard 50 page manual is to take apart an airplane door... how long is the "put it together manual" ? That must be longer and written in English? or is it in Spanish for all the "new hires" maybe Ebononics? asking for a friend...

How long is the manual to say rebuild the engine? or put a tire on.. .(reminds me of a skit by Ron White) and lug nut school and sears ..

Along with Harley, schools, beer, John Deere, and sports etc... everything that the US stood for is being dismantled.. why? so they can take over all of it and eliminate it.. Look what they tried to do to Federal Ammo.... or are still trying to do... its bad....

I believe we are being used as the boycott group (being effective) to really put business out of business, Then they can scoop them up and destroy them or bring them back as shells they once were, or make them foreign owned......

We have to fight back and I'm not sure boycotting is the answer... that's the answer for the cabal, if I take a step back.

I think we all need to buy shares of the companies and then go to the shareholder meetings and protest...

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NofloChick's avatar

Yeah, and then someone would complain that the test was too hard. If this keeps up there will be a major catastrophe…

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Starsky's avatar

I don’t have any manufacturing employees, so I’m not really one to say Boeing is initiating too much or not enough discipline. However, I do think shooting your managers in the head when they alert you to issues is a teensy bit over the top.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Well, they also kill the whistleblowers.

So...there's that...

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RU's avatar

That's the crux of the issue. The basic view - incorrect, irrational, and based on faulty logic - that started all of this is that any differences in outcomes b/w different races or ethnicities is entirely based on "systemic racism." And we're now seeing the results of this idiocy across society.

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Just Comment's avatar

Yes! Testing, Testing, Testing at every level will fix the problem. Entrance Exam, Progress Exam, Performance Exam, Graduation Exam, ...... with computer generated tests, so that each test is different, to minimize cheating. Can you tell that I am Asian. Hee Hee.

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Oliver Closov's avatar

LOL.

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KT Taylor's avatar

Would it also be racist to put managers, supervisors, mechanics & other workers on test flights of newly built & repaired planes? Make them test their own work was the suggestion of one of my kids today at dinner

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Oliver Closov's avatar

Yes. But it's a good idea anyway.

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Castelletto's avatar

Actually, the bigger picture is even more ominous. Certainly, affirmative action and DEI are part and parcel of the Gramscian march through our institutions, but the (European) globalists have been hard at work ruining all of our signature industries for some time. Disney, for example, can no longer make non-woke movies because management has been infiltrated. First they came for professional football, etc., and now they're just about done ruining the automotive industry so that no one can afford to travel outside of their 15-minute prisons, um, cities.

Boeing is part of the same program, so the failure has to have come from the top. It's a planned demolition, just like the one currently underway of NYC. In Boeing's case, it's also worth keeping in mind that Airbus (France) and British Airways are competitors of Boeing who stand to gain from its demise.

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Read carefully:

“I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that you present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable to God, which is your reasonable service. And do not be conformed to this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind, that you may prove what is that good and acceptable and perfect will of God.”

‭‭Romans‬ ‭12‬:‭1‬-‭2‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/rom.12.1-2.NKJV

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Tonya's avatar

Great beginning of the work week reminder!

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Therefore, my beloved brethren, be steadfast, immovable, always abounding in the work of the Lord, knowing that your toil is not in vain in the Lord.

— 1 Corinthians 15:58 LSB

✝️✝️✝️

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Thanks for staying on top of Boeing. They have left two astronauts stranded and may have to beg Elon to save them. Griner learned a lesson the hard way, but she’ll still vote Democrat along with every other kneeler who takes freedom for granted.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I have to fly to Ghana, West Africa next month flying Ethiopian Airlines ( which isn’t a problem for me, as they treated us well last year, but we are flying Boeing 787’s & 737’s. I wish we were flying Air Bus equipment!!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Pray for our team!

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JF's avatar

🙏🙏

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Barbara Moser, RNC's avatar

Will pray that God shields your plane.✈️

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Jeff C's avatar

Yeah, hopefully those Boeing employees don't kill you the way a quarter million Americans are killed a year by medical error. Pot meet kettle.

Since the two Boeing crashes over five years ago, approximately 1.5 BILLION passengers a year have flown Boeing aircraft with ZERO fatalities that were Boeing's fault. How's that compare to the medical industry?

Doc, your comment was foolish particularly coming from someone in your business. I realize it was a joke, but those are fellow Americans building those airplanes that you just cheap-shotted.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Paint with a broad brush much?

I used to look forward to flying with Boeing planes, not so much since the issues have surfaced. If you read the article, you would know that the older competent employees are also appropriately critical of the newer employees and their competence.

Yes, my profession has its own problems, does that mean I can’t express anxiety about the equipment I will be riding in? Who the hell made you the speech or thought police, anyway?

It is still true that flying is the safest way to travel by far.

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TG's avatar
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we all need to quit focusing on a company... once they take down Boeing who is next? Air Bus then who is next? then who is going to build you a very nice plane and maintain it? China... bet your bottom dollar.

Besides almost all of the maintenance on planes are done over seas not here in the US

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I don’t want to take down the company, just the woke assholes who are putting people’s lives at risk for $$$ & street cred with the leftists who will still burn down their homes if Georgie Soros’ minions give them the signal.

I want DEI To DIE, and put the Diversity hires on the street looking for a job that suits their talents and or where they can’t do any damage when they screw up or come to work high or hung over.

We used to be able to do things right & I believe we still can with the right leaders and incentives.

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PEL's avatar

I recall reading about the overseas airplane maintenance years ago. Was a bit scary!!

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Unless you are cancer doctors going to a meeting to announce that t cells can reduce tumors.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I am more intrigued by the idea that ivermectin & febendazole seem to be very effective for treating a wide variety of cancers and seem to be less toxic (but those treatments aren’t patentable, so not going to get studied with the rigor to get an FDA approval for that indication, not that that is necessary for your doctor to be able to prescribe it for that indication.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Family doctor, the one daughter is a nurse and works as cancer research nurse @ U of Pennsylvania, I don’t know if she is doing CART research or not.

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

I cheap shotted the entitiled incompetent DEI hires (& we have them in our industry too), who won’t get let go when they should be because of the cards they hold.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Safe travels Roger ❤️

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Thanks flying is still the safest way to travel (& no other way to get to Africa!

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Daniel Dapaah's avatar

Haha! 😅

So are you here for work or vacation?

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Daniel Dapaah's avatar

I'm in Ghana.

You'll be fine by God's grace. 🙏

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Oh, I am sure, I have been 10 times and never a worry once we get there. Lovely gracious people.

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Daniel Dapaah's avatar

Surely!

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Where are you in Ghana? And what do you do?

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Daniel Dapaah's avatar

I happen to be in two places: Akim Oda in the Eastern Region where I am posted in service to the Forestry Commission and Kumasi, where my family resides.

Currently on a short leave so in Kumasi and will return to my station in early September, God willing.

I don't know how much of Ghana you know apart from Accra. 😅

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Britney Griner will be the first black transgender of color in the early wave of Elon's Starships populating Mars.

His-her first born will be the king of the red planet.

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MOMinator's avatar

So Britney is a man? Playing against women?

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No doubt he’s a man. He may have infantile genitalia. Or be a hermaphrodite. But most likely XY in any event.

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NAB's avatar

I should have read through the comments before making mine, but yes, it seems like Griner is possibly a DSD athlete. Women just do not look like "she" does.

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Starsky's avatar

Yep. Not that he has admitted as much. Phoenix is so proud. /s

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YYR's avatar

Well his teammates don't mind, so...

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

They have to way a elon time hah

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YYR's avatar

*He'll. He'll vote Democrat.

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NAB's avatar

Kind of off topic, but do you all think Brittney Griner is an DSD athlete like the male boxers at the Olympics this year? Have you seen pictures of "her" without a shirt and listened to "her" talk?

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Rosalind McGill's avatar

She or he?

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Robin's avatar

Off topic a bit. Mr. Dale walks my neighborhood every day. He has been missing for several months and my neighbors and I had wondered if he was ok. My mind of course went to the death shot as Mr. Dale is elderly. This morning Mr. Dale was walking the neighborhood!! We spoke briefly. He has been in TN helping his daughter. And now they are here in Jacksonville, FL. She has stage 4 Pancreatic cancer. Once again, my mind went to the death shot! Please pray for Mr. Dale, his daughter and family.

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AngelaK's avatar

Lord have mercy. 🙏

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RunningLogic's avatar

Praying 🙏🙏🙏

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Barbara Moser, RNC's avatar

So sad. Pancreatic cancer cases are on the rise as well as other cancers. Please know that the risk factors for Pancreatic cancer was updated. They added “sporadic genetic alterations” and/or “inherited genetic alterations” increase risk of pancreatic cancer.

Very interesting 🧐

Ok Doctors- does the MRNA fall into the category of sporadic genetic alterations?

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Fred's avatar

💔🙏🏻

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CHop's avatar

Yes!!! Just told my friend with breast cancer about it.

https://x.com/MakisMD/status/1822335996651770172

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks for the Boeing update and explanation. In this household we "live" Boeing, husband being a sub-contractor to them. We have certainly been witness to their disorganization (can anyone say "DEI"?) Weekly conference calls, but a change of "project manager" every few months, with each new person knowing zip about the project in hand.

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Jpeach's avatar

In general, DEI, is just another Globalist scam to destroy Western Civilization. It’s working rather well for now. In the long run, consumers will vote with their wallets and reject DEI businesses/institutions.

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Valerie's avatar

I agree, but it’s such a mystery to me. All these folks who want to destroy western civilization.... do they realize that they’ve gotten rich because of western civilization? They think they’re somehow going to stay at the top while the bottom of the pyramid crumbles? It makes no logical sense.

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RunningLogic's avatar

A desire for power and money has clouded their ability to reason. They are so focused on that they don’t see anything else.

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Jpeach's avatar

I think these psychopaths have a God Complex.

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Vida Galore's avatar

They're like addicts, only their substance is power and wealth. Mostly power. They get off on it. They don't care if they destroy themselves in the process any more than a drug addict cares if they do.

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Vida Galore's avatar

It's communism. DEI = communism. It's one of the tools. So is ESG. That's gonna be DEI on steroids. Check out James Lindsay's many articles and videos explaining this. He is not a conservative, either, or religious. Just figured it all out.

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John Galt (MAHA/MAGA)'s avatar

The Boeing problem may be attributable to something entirely less sinister, and more in line with Mike Rowe than anything else. Previous generations went to schools that assumed two tracks of students: the college-bound and the rest, though it's not as bad as is sounds. I was in the latter group. Granted, there were no personal computers back then. Our local midwest industrial base needed skilled workers. The skills involved reading micrometers, calculating angles in construction, performing foundry work with good outcomes, repairing cars and machines, and so on. An entire wing of the school had a machine shop, a foundry furnace, a tin shop, a wood shop, and an automotive shop. The girls were prepared to be homemakers. Everyone left high school equipped for higher education, the industrial workforce, or the most important job of all - motherhood. That's all gone now, and the dweebs that show up at Boeing for jobs are ill-trained for industrial work.

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Susan Wolford's avatar

I took auto shop. Women need to know car basics just as much as a guy should be able to cook. I agree we need to put trades back in schools. Since colleges no longer teach critical thinking skills, what’s the point?

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MatthewJohn's avatar

Here in St. Louis, we "live" Boeing also. It was better when it was known as McDonnell-Douglas. The F-15 Eagle and the F/A-18 Hornet are still great planes.

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RSgva's avatar

Yes, I heard the merger was the start of the disaster.

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Barbara Moser, RNC's avatar

That’s not very comforting.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Olympic committee, even after the disgraceful opening, still thought it was a good ideas to use a Marilyn Manson horror show as the closing. Real bright people running things, or maybe just arrogant.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

The manual for how to do a closing was too long and confusing.

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Connie L Goehler's avatar

Ahhhahaaaa! Thatz funny!!! = D

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K2's avatar

LOLZ & Like!

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Dr Linda's avatar

😂

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Stariel291's avatar

Winner🥇

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WP William's avatar

What was the sum TOTAL of ALL Carbon emissions for these Gaymes? I Mean from training centers to qualifying events to the whole shit-bang of Villages and the mass of prepwork and satanic-ceremonialism, the mass of persons using resources while there, to their flights Out of France and whatever residual deconstruction and cleanup occurs....it must be ghastly...for the planet's sake this nonsense of Athletic-Satanic Inter-Nationalism must be banned forever.

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Dr Linda's avatar

That will be interesting. I won’t watch that one either

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Vida Galore's avatar

I haven't watched one since the 1990s. There's so many reasons to boycott.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

CA continues to be the social experiment.

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LogicFirst's avatar

😂😂 I read that last night. They also want employers in LA to allow their employees to work from home for the 18-day event. 😂😂

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Deb's avatar

Do they even think it consider the so-called "carbon footprint" there will be to get there? Maybe they should encourage all the participants to travel there via row boat starting a few months prior to the games! Absolute stupidity!!!

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AngelaK's avatar

Everything is always dark. Musical concerts too. Dark= demonic. They want everyone to be attracted to the dark rather than light.

It is deliberate Satanism.

Singer John Rich talked about this with Tucker Carlson.

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Jamison's avatar

I was thinking the same. Nothing is pretty or elegant anymore. Remember Tucker talking about how ugly architecture is now?? The mass productions of the opening and closing of the Olympics were just hideous.

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Erin Fight's avatar

Although I rarely, if ever, watch the games (ANY professional or otherwise), I have seen plenty of snippets of different opening ceremonies of late. One of the most disturbing was the scene from the 2012 games with all of the children in beds and the giant baby that awakens with the demon-like creature in their midst. Why? Why? Why?

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Vida Galore's avatar

Predictive programming. 2012/2021.

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AngelaK's avatar

Hmmm..yea, why all these dark demonic images all the time?

I think they really are intending to show that they are Satanists.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I imagine that their hastily revised finale was an improvement on what could only have been much, much worse. But they had to work with the same perverted design team, so this was the best they could come up with in so short a time?

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes, hard to reverse years of planning. “It could have been so much worse” comes to mind.

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Valerie's avatar

I remember the good old days when the Olympic opening and closing ceremonies were a way to celebrate the athletes and some of each country’s culture. Apparently that’s too white now, or something?

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, it is supposed to highlight the country. France is the country of Charlie Hebdo (magazine that mocks and has mocked Mohammed. Jesus, etc)..'Free expression' they call it with pride.

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Steelhands's avatar

They mocked Mohammad? And got away with it? I've never seen anything that looked like that.

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AngelaK's avatar

You must have been asleep for a while in 2015! 😉

They DID NOT get away with it, and it was huge. a virtual massacre in the magazine offices.

Then, the virtue signaling started again with' I am Charlie Hebdo', insinuating freedom of expression. (So hypocritical, because they never care if it is for anything normal or wholesome, ofcourse).

Below is a link.

It is noteworthy and fair to point out that Muslims around the world also joined Christians in taking offense at the Olympics opening ceremony, 1. because of the imagery of debauchery and

2. They hold Christ as a Prophet, therefore, sacred.

They never speak with a lack of reverence of anyone they consider sacred.

(I do not personally believe that Mohammed was a Prophet, but I will speak with respect about him because they do).

https://www.britannica.com/event/Charlie-Hebdo-shooting

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Steelhands's avatar

Thanks. I sorta remember it now. I guess the Olympic folks remembered it better than me and avoided ANY negative about Islam.

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Trilby's avatar

Achievement is prejudiced.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Exactly!!

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Vida Galore's avatar

That's racissssss

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LuAnne's avatar

I think it's another sign of the times. Almost everything in the artistic realm of today is void, or close to being void, of everything human. It's dark, ugly, and void of hope and any joy. I've noticed this alot lately. It's infested every form of art from music, to architecture and everything in between. It's like no one has an imagination any longer.

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AngelaK's avatar

I agree 💯!

My mother, a devoutly spiritual woman, used to say that beauty is from God and ugliness is from satan. ✔️

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daverkb's avatar

Smart mom AngelaK !!!

Years ago in the 1970's I used to go to the Art Students League on W. 57th St in New York to draw. I remember some 'teacher' discussing color field painting with a 'student' and ooing and awing over how sophisticated the student's painting was. It was all Mark Rothko-like stupid stuff. Really sterile, witless. The conversation sounded all three or four year old stupid.

https://ocula.com/artists/mark-rothko/?gad_source=5&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIyY_hutnvhwMV4TQIBR1wCTwTEAAYASAAEgI_vvD_BwE

I also heard talk that there was a deliberate dumbing down in art ... like to make our minds confused. Can't say whether it was so or not ... but it sure looked like it. I also noticed that some people who were creating good work just could not get into galleries to get their stuff sold. It was very puzzling.

Thing have only gotten worse. Think the Olympics and the Gotthard Tunnel ceremony ... and your mom was terrrifical RIGHT !!! In capital letters.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

AI generated "art" really creeps me out.

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daverkb's avatar

And the other thing out there now is that AI computing is the control agency bridging self-assembling nano-technology introduced into the human body and The Cloud. Another words, AI will direct and control the human body from the storage banks.

Sound crazy? Outlandish? Unbelievable? And Creepy might be the right word.

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AngelaK's avatar

Very cool that you went there Dave. I passed by it countless times!

I graduated from Brooklyn College in 1980 with a Bachelor's in Art History.

I never really got into modern art.

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daverkb's avatar

I was mostly interested in the human figure. And as to modern art, I suppose what period makes a huge difference. For example, 1960 and 1970's and thereafter, I don't emotionally connect with it ... installations, and whatever. For me, the more 'intellectualized', the more boring and witless. And you may laugh at me, but working in the trades is more satisfying for me than what a lot of Manhattan artists do.

Maybe a silly example, I noticed that I like Picasso right up to Demoiselles d'Avignon and some thereafter. But Demoiselles is kind of the demarcation line. I far prefer Rose, Blue period, etc., over most of cubism, etc. ... as to what I'd like to hang in my own home.

Quite a mom! Quite a daughter! And I'm guessing you had a wonderful growing up time.

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KCwoofie's avatar

Agree. And what is up with all shades of grey paint gracing decor that lacks warmth and comfort.

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LuAnne's avatar

Right? 🤣

My husband & I have been actively looking at real estate over the last few months and I swear, every house where the homeowner claims "house is updated" is all gray, white, & black. The houses look like a giant prison cell block! 🤣 It’s really disappointing when it's obvious an owner spent a good amount on a kitchen reno but it looks like a sterile hospital operating room and it will cost us $'s to make it look like real humans reside there.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I was stationed on a US Navy ship.

Everything was painted gray.

I hate gray.

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Double Mc's avatar

My house is on the market now, and several of the after-showing surveys remarked at how much our house felt like a home. No gray to be found anywhere!

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Patrice's avatar

My daughter painted her walls gray...but with five little kids it hides some of the dirt that little fingers leave behind.

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AngelaK's avatar

I have a shade of gray on my walls. It is a fashionable neutral backdrop for my eclectic furniture, art and carpets. Every single person that sees it compliments it and loves it.

Before gray, shades of mocha were a stylish neutral for walls for a while.

Before that, pastels were the fashionable wall color.

The key with any wall color is to layer visual interest by adding ample color throughout with wall hangings (art) and other accessories and furniture. Plants (real or silk) also add warmth.

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daverkb's avatar

LuAnne. Interesting. Because we just put in a walk-in shower. And we are going to put a white quartz top on the brown wood vanity. The walk in shower has white/grayish patterning. We had to do it this way because the floor tiles that came with the house in DeWife's bathroom are white and fairly new. BUT the walls will be a light blue with plenty of color in the wall decorations. DeWife will make it spectacular with plenty of point and counterpoint interest. No operating rooms here.

Good luck with this new adventure of yours.

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LuAnne's avatar

A white quartz countertop on a stained wood vanity will be very nice! You can't go wrong with that.

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Beckadee's avatar

Supposedly warmer neutral colors and stained wood is trending again.

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LuAnne's avatar

Lol. I've stayed in the warm, neutral, stained wood phase for the last 25 years (at least). I always stick with classic & neutral on big ticket fixed items like flooring, countertops, cabinets, etc. Things like paint, upholstery, rugs, wall art, etc) is where I can safely express my love of color.

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Beckadee's avatar

My niece was getting married in 2012 and I wanted to gift her something that she would have forever. I had given her sister a nice wood mirror from Restoration Hardware [on sale of course- ha] but after asking her what her colors were and her replying she didn't have any I sent her 2 place settings of her china. I'm thinking what in the hell is wrong with you, but that was when the white, greige and dull interiors were all the rage. Boring.

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Valerie's avatar

Excellent point

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Connie L Goehler's avatar

Or....maybe of the Darksided ones...they look like us but they're demon infested. Ever since the covid plandemic, the whole medical system broke.

Better have someone as an advocate 24/7 if admitted (even for tests).

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BBS's avatar

The Olympic Committee is shooting themselves in the foot (head?) just as the Hollywood elite have done.

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ASK's avatar

I am hoping the closing ceremony was a ritualistic plea to the WEFers satanic alien overlords to come pick them up from earth. The world would be a much better place without them here mucking things up.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

M a y b e

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daverkb's avatar

I think BBS is right. Because right now it's either stand outside the 'culture' or drown in it.

I'm outside, been there for decades now ... and I am never going back to that which always seemed dubious to me. Civilizations really crash because everyone just drops out ... because they are forced to.

(No TV, Cable, most the stuff turned off on the phone ... and really on the outside looking in).

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Tonya's avatar

Remember the good old days of RIF?

Reading is fundamental.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Or RIF, Reduction In Force if they can't read.

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Heather's avatar

Back in my support days, RTFM was stated daily and sometimes hourly (read the f***ing manual)

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Nicole's avatar

Strong case for homeschooling 🤓

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Dr Linda's avatar

Readin, writin, arithmetic

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CHop's avatar

But that's considered "Doing your own research" which we were clearly told not to do in 2020/2021. 🙂

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Tonya's avatar

The stated purpose, to increase literacy by giving children books of their own, sounds admirable. But with the involvement of the Ford Foundation and Lady Bird Johnson right from the beginning, who knows if their aims were always merely philanthropic?

And what are they like now, six decades after their inception?

"Seeing as how it’s been a minute since I was in grade school, I was curious how (and if) RIF was responding to all the renewed calls for diversity in children’s literature. As it turns out, they have a national board of advisors to help them continually take stock of what books they’re offering (and what other resources they are creating), which includes author-illustrator Don Tate. They also signal boost the work and resources done by other groups, such as We Need Diverse Books, Embrace Race, and the Cooperative Children’s Book Center at the University of Wisconsin, Madison. On just a quick glance at the books they offer, I saw authors as diverse as Allen Say, Duncan Tonatiuh, Randi Pink, Jacqueline Woodson, Ozge Samanci, and Mariko Tamaki. So yes, they are, like, good books."

https://bookriot.com/reading-is-fundamental/

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Rob D's avatar

I'll figure out a way to get my clients to all pay me under the table as a "tip" if either of these "leaders" gets elected and can actually get the "no tax on tips" passed. If they truly cared about the tax burden on Americans they would be abolishing the IRS completely. The oppressive taxes they collect don't even go to running "the government" anymore so why do we need them? The entire "tax code" is what needs to change. No taxes on tips in a country where most of the jobs where people get tips have been shut down (mom and pop restaurants, etc that were all shuttered as non-essential in 2020, most of these never reopened). Umm... I 'm not holding my breath.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Those are great points! We have taxation without representation. Abolish the IRS would be the actual start of setting things right. No tax on tips is just crumbs wiped under the rug at this point. How about not taxing us 4-10 x on the same monies from every single angle they can concoct in their criminal minds.

Now THAT would be some real starting points.

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Jeff C's avatar

The problem with all this no tax on tips talk is that in many industries, tips are effectively part of their wage. We aren't talking about when you give the garbage man an envelope at Christmas here. These are people who get a tip on virtually every task they perform (the occasional cheapskate customer excluded).

Why should some workers have part of their wage excluded from taxes while others don't? No one is saying some part of my wage should be tax exempt. (Although I do structure my finances to maximize deductions which anyone can do).

This is a ploy to win Nevada regardless of which side is saying it.

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T Kosse's avatar

I posed the question of no tax on tips to the senior waitress at a restaurant I've frequented for 25+ years. Her response was the same as yours. "Why should my tip income not be taxed? It's all part of my wages. That wouldn't be fair to others." I thought my question would be a slam dunk. Boy, was I surprised.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

She thinks like a communist. Everyone has been trained to think like “it takes a village” and not to think as one individual giving a gift to another individual for specific service performance.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

So I fail to see what you are saying. Because she thinks that she should have to pay taxes just like everyone else and that hers should not be exempt….she thinks like a communist? She didn’t say they should all be tipped the same or there should be a mandatory gratuity no matter how well you do your job……and I think the IRS should be abolished all together. So.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

“Just like everyone else” is communism. When you give a tip, you have already paid tax on that money. Same with old age, Social Security pensions, taxes have already been paid.!

No double taxation!

And yes, we should abolish the IRS.

Our money is now imaginary and they can print whatever they want, so there’s no need for taxes at all

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RunningLogic's avatar

Good point. I think we should reduce all taxes for everybody because clearly, the more we are taxed, the more the government spends on foolishness instead of doing anything useful with the money they collect. It’s the most inefficient and least effective way to get things done. Take money from people, filter it through several layers of agencies and bureaucrats and then use the money once a good portion of it has been taken by the middlemen 😕 Not to mention leading to increased corruption and power grabs.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I think I’ll just request my salary be paid in tips only…but my invoice would come with a mandatory gratuity no matter how well I actually did my job so I’m guaranteed I get my tip.

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J Kaz's avatar

Elon Musk asked if anybody had questions for President Trump tonight when they speak and Scott Pressler had a ton of great questions for him to ask. It was all written on. X How about we we pay what we purchase not on what we earn.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

So is there a way to watch this on X if you don’t have an account?

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Betsy Frost's avatar

The problem with this is how to transition to such a system? Those of us at the end of our lives and retirement have already paid tax on much of the money we are now spending. Are we to double tax these people?

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Fred's avatar

Tax on purchases instead of income. With no exceptions for that Lear jet. 🎯

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Many of my purchases are being paid for by money I have saved that has already been taxed. No thanks unless there is some type of exemption or rebate for purchases made from saving. This will probably be the work around to taxing ROTH distributions by taxing the purchases made from them.

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TB's avatar

Any reasonable bill to abolish "tax on tips" would have to cover only voluntary gratuities -- "if it's mandatory it's still taxed".

What it would mean is that you have to genuinely rely on gifts from customers that they are free not to give, in order to be tax-free. And the IRS would hire another 40,000 agents to investigate whether it was a "genuine gratuity" or not.

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Cathy's avatar

Exactly. I feel for the servers who don’t get a minimum wage. I do. However, I have a college degree through hard work. I would love to work and not have to pay taxes on three quarters of my salary. Sign me up

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WP William's avatar

Free college and tax free wages for ALL Harris-Walz voters!

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nt's avatar

This ☝️ And add in Cali $20 minimum wage …even if you’re a stoned non-manual reader. It’s great ….vote D !

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No, Jeff. A tip is a gift. Tips are not mandatory. One does not have to leave any tip at all if they have bad service.

And that is not being a cheapskate. Anyone who is giving a gift is never a cheapskate.

“ Never look a gift horse in the mouth!”

Thinking that tips are mandatory wages is part of communism!

Go back to the original capitalistic way of thinking individualistically.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Actually lots of places are instituting mandatory gratuity now. THAT is BS. Tips should be voluntary not mandatory. Over in Europe when a family members went over there he said leaving a tip is bad thing. They do not receive it. It’s a slap in the face to some degree.

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TB's avatar

I wouldn't object to a mandatory charge, but I would object to calling it a "gratuity" in that case because that's lying. But just adding a "service fee" to cover higher wages is fine - if customers don't like it, they can go elsewhere.

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Heather's avatar

Let’s take the win as a start…..you are so right but don’t punish others that might get out of the wicked taxation cabal because everyone doesn’t get freed from it (I do not work from tips, but could see my client payments changing in the future if this came to be….my husband has nothing that could be considered a tip in the foreseeable future…just being transparent in my comments)

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s kind of my take on it, hoping it will get a foot in the door to taking out other taxes.

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Jeff C's avatar

It's pretty seldom a criticize a tax cut proposal, but the issue here is there's no rhyme or reason to it. Why should a waitress get a tax cut when the $15/hour worker at McDonalds doesn't? What makes the waitress more worthy of it?

This isn't a tax cut but free money to a specific group in attempt to win Nevada. It's political pandering of the worst sort. Just because Trump proposed it first doesn't make it any better. The reason Harris copied it is because he took it from the Democrat playbook.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

We know some people who make bank on tips! I know not everyone does….but the ones who do…..BAM!

Just like why should some get out of paying their student loans back, while the rest have to pay back every penny? How is that right? People who paid back and are paying back their loans are making sacrifices to do so. Skipping any vacations, struggling to put food on their table, paying their regular bills at the same time as loan payments, not being paid well, paying the same inflated insurance rates, gas prices and loosing half their wages to taxes…. Plus worrying about how in the world to even set aside anything for retirement!

We are all struggling. Letting some off the hook and others not - not a good idea.

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Betsy Frost's avatar

And the other issue everyone is missing is that if one assumes in some way that social security and Medicare will still exist into the future that the determination of benefits is based upon the earned income reported over time. What an unpleasant surprise to find out years down the road that you don't qualify or have meager benefits due to low reported earnings over a lifetime.

I already see that occasionally from persons who as self-employed have worked around the system to hide income. They are shocked when they find out how little they qualify.

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Heather's avatar

It’s not free money in the way it’s normally done…normally free money gives you way more than you ever paid in (earned income credit, free tuition, etc)….here, they are literally just not taxing a portion of income. It’s not perfect and you make good points about it being arbitrary, but I really see it as a small win in removing the income tax. The unfairness will be noticed and so the knowledge that the first 30K you earn is actually taxed pretty low (in comparison to the later dollars) and maybe not at all if that’s all you make will start to be understood more widely or there will be other changes to make things more fair….demanding all or nothing will get us nothing, where-as allowing this would be a huge win for tipped employees and a start down the right road

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

I feel similarly about the $20 fast-food minimum wage in Cali. Why should burger-slingers make $3-4 more per hour than, say, convenience store cashiers? Hmm?

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Beckadee's avatar

Good point. Didn't think about Nevada.

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Starsky's avatar

I always tip in cash, even if I pay with plastic. It’s up to them whether or not to claim it to the IRS. Tax free if they choose. They seem to love receiving cash.

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Heather's avatar

You can bet I’ll be getting lots of tips too!

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Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

Well, I thought I’d check out Elizabeth Lund’s professional experience at Boeing, where she has spent her entire career. According to her Boeing Executive Bio, she has ABSOLUTELY ZERO professional technical experience. “Executive path” assignments from day one. DEI Hire. The real world failures at Boeing are systemic. To be honest, I’m floored. Boeing is in big trouble.

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Deb's avatar

I get it but that being said, it would be rare in any company that the paper pushers would know how to take an airplane apart and put it back together. An accountant which is probably as close as a ceo vp gets to the work would not have a technical expertise that would be vast.

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Kenneth N. Myers's avatar

It is an in vogue management model. I would argue that it is a failed one. Compare Elizabeth Lund's background to that of Gwynne Shotwell of SpaceX. Which company has the better combination of both product and business success? Which of the two would you expect to consult her engineering, operations and business staff? Which one would you work for?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Have a good week everyone. I’m hoping for a better, more peaceful week.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

Thanks for putting out some positive energy Dr. Linda! Much appreciated.

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Valerie's avatar

You have a good week too!

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

My husband has lived within view of the pale and sometimes unsavory underbelly of the aviation manufacturing and mechanics world for over 20 years now. Jeff’s assessment of issues working Boeing is agonizingly familiar to conversations my husband and I have had over and over. And it’s not just Boeing (which is why many believe it’s a controlled demolition of Boeing - this is a huge problem across pretty much all of aviation, so why is Boeing being singled out?). One issue with “reading the manual” is that in the past few years DEI hiring practices have led to the majority (yes, majority) of new employees not being native English speakers or readers and also, due to DEI, even if they were, you can’t test them because the demographics they hired are “protected” and testing would be some “-ist”. My husband reads, comprehends and applies hundreds of pages instructions, sometimes PER ten hour work shift - with mild dyslexia (!)- but the manuals being put out are picture books. Problem is, pictures can’t convey all the necessary details of the assignments so then you need someone to teach you. But the employees in many cases have been told they are again, a protected class, so they are pretty much unteachable and will report any one who corrects them to HR claiming -isms or “creation of a hostile work environment.”

It’s really a mess.

Please note: my husband says that until the Obama years, A&P Mechanics were considered skilled laborers and it drew a commensurate candidate pool. When Obama pulled the skilled consideration, the companies basically said, “any one can do this” and their hiring practices reflect that inaccurate supposition.

Thanks Obama.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

*the manuals being put out NOW, it should say. The more detailed ones still exist and my husband uses them but the newer employees can’t read or comprehend them. Even the native English speakers often can’t. Government schooling comes full circle.

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Copernicus's avatar

Ugh. Tell your husband thanks for sticking with his job. Sounds like a miserable environment.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Years ago, I remember that USAirways was sending planes to Central America to do maintenance.

Did they even speak English?

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Reminds me of any manual you get now. All pictures, no words. I do better with words that include pictures for clarity.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Is the assumption that no one can read?

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I think there’s a reluctant, unstated, dawning realization at some of these wile companies, that employees can’t comprehend written instructions which is different from being able to read words or not. But I also think there are some managers who prefer some sort of a clueless maintenance class who follow directions without any questions about things like regulations, laws, safety, or even the reality of the working machine.

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John A George's avatar

huh?

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

As a pilot (not currently flying) I always had the utmost respect for an A&P . Perhaps I should be grateful I'm not flying these days.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

I admit I’m biased but his various bosses throughout his entire career aren’t and they have also noted many times that my husband is one of the best in each company he’s worked at. He is principled, knowledgeable, instinctive and just SEES the guts of the machinery like many never understand. For people who do fly these days - pray that someone like my husband worked on your plane and caught the myriad potentially catastrophic mistakes others made before it left the maintenance facility.

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CHop's avatar

Boeing may be singled out because they got a hefty government contract to get a transport to the International Space Station because the only way to get there was by Russian rockets. The project ended up being 4 years behind schedule when the media pressure started. Boeing then got 2 astronauts there and the pressure eased, but now that they can't get them back, the media pressure started back up. The astronauts are still waiting for their return flight. Very embarrassing for the US who is "unoffcially" at war with Russia.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

What I don't understand is, how can we be at war with Russia,

and also share a sophisticated joint Space Program with them?

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

It does seem ludicrous!

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Good point. It’s also been noted previously that China wants the Boeing market for their new China cheapie 737 knockoffs and of course I don’t see why Biden wouldn’t help them out with that. Trump shared a link to an article about this on his Truth social page, without additional comment.

Whatever is making Boeing a special target, I don’t think it’s really about shoddy manufacturing and maintenance practices, or poor quality training, or low information employees…because that is pretty much standard across aviation right now, including many other companies with major government contracts. (And I don’t deny they’re shooting themselves in the foot with these issues, like other av companies.) Still feels like there’s more afoot here…

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

And drug test were still administered.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

Sometimes drug tests are still used. Anytime something goes wrong, the people the companies would like to get rid of (usually whistleblower types/squeaky wheels) get “randomly” tested. It is sort of company-internal lawfare…

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

*applies only to the floor. Not managers. They have to try get rid of them other ways.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

They anointed tom cruise to close the Olympic globalist games? Pppffftttt 💨

Did they really think we would fall all over ourselves, tune in and give a crap because their “celebrity” showed up?

Whatever!

They really do think we’re stupid 🫨🫨🫨🫨

😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫😵‍💫

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Freebird's avatar

It’s such a shame that they’ve totally ruined the Olympics for many of us. It used to be a must watch event for us, back in the day when it truly was about the best athletes in the world, without all the politicization.

Our family was deeply involved with athletics because our son was a very good pole vaulter; he was a six time national champion during college. But even at that, we knew the Olympics was out of reach, it requires almost a lifetime of preparation and dedication to achieve. By the end of his senior year he was married and they had a child, so he was moving on with life.

We didn’t really watch any of this Olympics, it was ruined by the opening ceremonies. Which is sad for those athletes who have invested their lives in dedication to a sport.

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JW's avatar

The bronze medal being stripped from Jordan Chiles was the last straw. So wrong.

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Marc Wadaga's avatar

My wife watched some this year but I had my own personal boycott going.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Isn't he kind of a has-been?

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cltwilson1's avatar

He symbolizes the next Olympics in Los Angeles. It will be heavily represented by Hollywood

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Beckadee's avatar

I don't think so. He's still putting out those movies and apparently likes to do a lot of his own stunts. Now is he a normal guy- probably not. lol

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María Rodero's avatar

I boycotted the Olympics so forgive the foolish question. The image of you posted - is that really “Maverick?” He looks off.

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Beckadee's avatar

He's 60 and trying to look 50. He's had things to help with that. I did not watch the part when he jumped off the building but harnessed up anybody could do it.

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Susanna Bythesea's avatar

If he was a has-been, I think he turned it around with his Top Gun remix. I don’t even like Tom Cruise, or like 95% of new movies period, but I really enjoyed that one as did millions of others.

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Janet's avatar

Yeah. How about a true athlete doing it. Not an old made for movies athletic dud.

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MnmMom's avatar

Maybe there will be a new category for team competition, Plastic surgeon’s & patient- speed surgery and artistic stichery and Guess the age of the patient.

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Roman S Shapoval's avatar

But...but...he loves America! Didn't you see Top Gun?? (:

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RunningLogic's avatar

Plus he is a cult fanatic.

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B Dollen's avatar

— MAYBE THEY GOT

“..A DEAL”… IF HE DIDN’T HAVE TO DRESS UP …..???????

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B Dollen's avatar

—- TOMMY GRIMMY W . H. O.⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️⁉️

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I bought the multiplier book last week. Shepherds for Sale.

I only finished chapter one and I was already mad and disgusted. I’ve known for a long time that it’s been decades of setting up the destruction of America from the inside out. But this just made it even more real.

I actually think the minute America got its independence - They began trying to destroy it.

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Janet's avatar

I’m getting it today. So it’s one of those blood pressure raising, throw it across the room books? I figured it would be. 🙄

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AngelaK's avatar

My anxiety is starting to get high with the idea that (from what I am gaging around mediaverse) the Democrats may win again.

Kamala is playing the 'in the basement' campaign, and that worries me. I always felt that was because Soros told Biden, 'don't worry, we got this for you'. Alex Soros showed us his support of Kamala in a photo.

If so, satan has had a victory and we may never have a republican or sanity again. So we will have a dictatorship with the facade of democracy.

And the mediaverse is hailing their ticket as the most pro abortion ticket ever.

The brainwashed young will rejoice, and we now have infanticide.

The brainwashed young apparently think that she is somewhat the cool one, because she is a woman of color.

My heart is breaking for so many reasons. 💔

May God spare us from their victory.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Unfortunately, I’m seeing a lot of brainwashed come out of their silent biden years to blabber on about how great she is while never stating one good thing she actually did or can do or will do. It’s all garbage they are spewing. But if we think they can’t cheat with their golden Indian black girl when they cheated with their old senile criminal…..we are foolish. It’s more believable she would get enough votes to cheat easily and inconspicuously than it was they could cover their tracks with joe.

And they did that just fine.

I will still fight.

I will still speak truth.

I will still vote.

The outcome only God knows.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

“If so, satan has had a victory and we may never have a republican or sanity again. So we will have a dictatorship with the facade of democracy.”

That’s my fear. It will cause me to retreat even further from society and write off the US.

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Double Mc's avatar

If this happens, do not despair. It is in God's hands, and it may well be that we are being asked to be the ones to endure the End Times. If so, it will be very hard on us, but we know how it ends. Come Lord Jesus.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

PA Secretary of State put out a news release warning that they will not know who the winner is on 5 November.

They will keep counting those "mail-in" ballots until the Dems win.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Florida is the 3rd largest state I believe…and they count them in one night. Any state that doesn’t get them counted in one night is cheating.

We all know that though 🙄 It sucks.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Gov. DeSantis did put out a tweet about Florida being able to count them in one night.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

They like Harris Walz because they’re happy, what? 🤔🙄🤬

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AngelaK's avatar

Brainwashed moronic young voters who have been conditioned to vote on candidate likability, though I find nothing likable about that evil woman.

Then there are the black voters, who even when told about stuff that doesn't sit well with them like drag queens in elementary schools, they do not want to accept it.

I saw a video recently of a black Trump supporter doing this.

Enjoy, atleast these black Republican guys are funny!

https://youtu.be/9KQLOHvJ7y0?si=-bRmZu0XO9UsR7nZ

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daverkb's avatar

This has been often said (central banking which Andrew Jackson killed, War of 1812 and Civil War, and so on. But also, a continual dumbing down of things ... law, education, etc.).

I've look at a lot of things, some of which I hint to as above, fields of endeavor and my conclusion is the same as yours ... "from the minute America got its independence." A long, long slide into oblivion.

But now oblivion is madness. And I think Dr. Ana is right. That this is where we are, and in an unbelievable fix ... and five years or more I could not even fathom it even though I heard the words. And you don't have to listen to it all to get the gist.

https://rumble.com/v5a7blo-maria-zeee-and-dr.-ana-mihalcea-graphene-confirmed-in-dental-anaesthetics-b.html

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TB's avatar

I think the dilution of the Gospel is more important than American independence.

Though I do see a link (USA was founded by those seeking religious freedom to worship God the way they believed was right), we should remember that the Gospel has thrived under despotic emperors, ungodly kings, and even in communist China. As Christ said, "My kingdom is not of this world."

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Shellie Willmering's avatar

My multiplier book just arrived today. I'm going to try my best not to become so mad and disgusted, but I don't see how that will be possible knowing what I already know. I'm sure I will pray more fervently for our country, though.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

The Boeing story is bizarre. As a former a/c, structural and mechanical, mechanic I find it odd that Boeing would hire, so it seems, people with no prior a/c experience. Or at least intensive training prior to being allowed on the hanger floor. It isn't rocket science .....

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YYR's avatar

Probably can't find any. They need to create a pipeline.

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Deb's avatar

Then you are aware that Boeing does not have to hire certified A&P mechanics by certification.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

I think that has always been true for the industry. Bring in trainees and educate them & they obtain A&P certs via OJT; it's A& P's doing serious work/QA etc ... .

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Linda's avatar

Surely I'm missing the point here. Why all the focus on a "50-page manual for safely removing parts from airplanes"? With the right tools, who COULDN'T remove parts from an airplane? What I'm concerned about is how well they can put the airplane together!

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M. C. DeMarco's avatar

Putting it back together again is part of the process, ideally.

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Mom of 5's avatar

I assume that it is because these aircraft are not brand new and require competent maintenance

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John A George's avatar

As someone who wrote manuals for a living, I can say they usually provide complete disassembly/reassembly procedures. A good manual goes one step at a time: do step 1, go to step 2, etc. We were told to write at a level that could be understood by those less educated.

This was many years ago. I fear the criteria for "less educated" has now fallen through the floor into the basement.

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TB's avatar

Can confirm, this is aircraft manuals too. The first half of the section is "remove this bolt, slide this panel, unscrew that thing, open it up" then the second half is "put the thing back on, screw it up, slide the panel closed, refit bolt". And tells you what spec of bolts to use and how much torque on the screwdriver.

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Deb's avatar

I beg to differ, unless of course you are using a sledge hammer.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Thank you

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Not this woman. I’m always asking why? I want to know!

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