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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Good morning. Shortly after Jeff's Substack came out Thursday morning I lost internet and telephone. When it didn't come back I called Frontier on my emergency flip-phone and was told it was a regional outage, no estimate of when it would be restored. Turns out it was 29 hours later, Friday afternoon, when I was reconnected to the outside world. A stark reminder of how dependent I am on that for communication; no email, no Substacks, no news shows on Rumble, no Truth Social. I'm still catching up.

The events this week have made it clear that there is a segment of the population that does not live in the same America that the rest does. They think differently. They think they are the majority. They are not. They think they have a right to silence others who do not agree with them. They do not. How was this Robinson kid allowed to absorb such evil ideas that he was willing to commit such a heinous act of violence? Why didn't his parents warn him against subversive indoctrination in online chat groups and Discord groups? It has been said before - this is a war between good and evil. Young men who are without spiritual armor are easy targets for manipulation by others with an evil intent. The Adversary is active. Were there other forces or people at play in controlling this young man and getting him to do this specific act? It would not surprise me. Time will tell.

Charlie Kirk was winning over the hearts and minds of young men on college campuses, setting an example of how to think critically and how to overcome the indoctrination they face from a perverted higher education system. Those behind the global Luciferian cult are not happy with that. Their spirit of evil is being poured out. We have witnessed the appalling display of leftists and Dems celebrating the murder of an innocent man. How should we react to this? Shun them. It is Biblical. If they refuse to live within the camp of civilized society, they must be shunned. And we must continue to speak the truth as Charlie did.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

I, like most people, have read/seen many vile, hateful, disgusting comments online this past week in regard to Charlie Kirk’s murder. But, today I saw the worst of the worst.

Quoting:

“Can Erika Kirk be next? Then the two children can be placed with foster parents who will have them properly educated and growing up hating their parents”.

I’m getting really tired of living in a world with such evil.

Everyone, please read the first chapter of Romans.

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Lori's avatar

Don't be tired. We were told this would be happening. Stand up for what is right and good, call out evil where and when you find it and then shun it. Evil wants, needs and thrives on an audience; don't give it one.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Yes. The demonic evil in the world may be shocking but it’s certainly not surprising. It was all predicted. God is in control. Without my faith, I don’t know how I would navigate this world.

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Lori's avatar

Indeed. My morning mantra. Good Morning God, I love you. Satan, piss off.

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Patti's avatar

🤣 love it

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Lori's avatar

already read this. all of this is a sadness, heavy sigh.

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schneile's avatar

Not at all surprised that a transurrectionlist is involved--even if tangentially. Time will unfold the details of this story.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

Our Heavenly Father is more responsive when you use His personal name, YHWH, pronounced YAHVEH in all languages. Your point is well taken and I love it. I don't mean to be critical, but it's really true. The Father loves His name.

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Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Our God has no name, but we who love Him call Him Abba, Father.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

He's more responsive when He's indwelling with His Holy Spirit for which there is no previous expectation. After that His name is My Father.

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Synickel's avatar

Balderdash. The God of Heaven hears any and all sincere names used to call on Him. Every country has a different name for Him. What He cares about is that we love, respect and call on Him often. I am speaking of the Heavenly God and not pagan gods.

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Lori's avatar

God is responsive to anyone in the same measure when they come to Him for guidance and in prayer.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

God doesn't become "more responsive" when you use His personal name. That is not Biblical.

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Silent scorn's avatar

That is Gods honest truth. I’m so glad I’m a believer in Jesus.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Amen, Friend! 🙏🏻

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

13 Sep 25, Update on Demented murderer of Charlie Kirk: https://nypost.com/2025/09/13/us-news/charlie-kirk-shooter-tyler-robinson-lived-with-transgender-partner/

CNN, on their broadcast today said "Investigation intensifies in trying to determine motive"... It's highly likely CNN was aware of this information and chose to black hole it.

First person shooter video game freak and living a deviant, sick lifestyle - motive?

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Lori's avatar

Time to pull kids from public schools and homeschool where they can be encouraged to know God, study hard and not be indocrinated by the evil that surrounds us. Tech was also not the best thing to come into existence either. Sunshine and exercise! Thanks for the update Dan.

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Kenpowoman's avatar

Homeschooling families and those considering homeschooling, Turning Point USA is giving away their educational materials.

Add them all, enter the code EDUCATION and the total goes to $0.

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Lori's avatar

Thank you for this info. I am planning to call them tomorrow to see how I can get involved in their efforts.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

I teach piano lessons and I've always said I will take 1 homeschooled student over 10 public school ones any day. They are more mature, smart, can think for themselves and have a strong family base based on Christian life, love and belief in Jesus Christ.

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Lori's avatar

Darn tootin'!

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Sarah Bee's avatar

This 💯

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Tracy's avatar

🤣 can I use this?

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Patti's avatar

I saw that also and can’t believe the vile spewing. Shocked at how many educators and healthcare workers?!? I am not surprised now about school shootings. Teachers spew hateful words. Encourage hate. Support hate of others that think differently and seem surprised when a school shooting happens. The vulnerable are marinating in hate for hours a day and are fed confusion. I won’t be surprised about another school shooting. Literally the roots are showing

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CMCM's avatar

Yet I take a bit of hope from my daughter's current experience. She was an elementary teacher for 8 years until 2016, and at that point her children were adults so she decided to pursue her previous love of medicine and she worked as a nurse for the next 9 years. Just this spring she decided she had had enough, mainly due to the horrible and petty attitudes she saw in the hospital and among hospital staff, so she went back to teaching. She is once again a 6th grade science teacher at what seems like a wonderful, conservative school. This is in Northern California, and in a red county, I'll add. Everyone there seems like her, all good people, kind and helpful, no crazy things at all. There is careful monitoring of the internet the kids use and they are blocked from objectionable websites, and even from websites that have advertising that is deemed not good for kids to see even if the website itself is ok. They aren't allowed to have phones out in class. There are a lot of rules that must be followed, and the kids seem to behave very well. Overall I'm very impressed that there is still such a public school in California, and that things still seem normal there. I don't know how common this school is, though.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Praise God, that is very encouraging. Thanks for sharing.

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SD Scott's avatar

Awesome!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

wow. this would be true for us but at a private school

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Concerned mom's avatar

I'm so happy to hear this! In So Cal, where we are raising our kids, this too is true of the elementary schools...however, something drastically happens while en route 2 or 3 miles down the road to the middle and high schools...

We had to pull our daughter from the middle school for how badly she was bullied, while those in authority did little to protect her, even though they had newly installed cameras ALL OVER campus...this was several years ago.

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CMCM's avatar

One interesting development was that in this district, the schools were divided into K-6, and then there were separate middle schools of grades 7-8. Last year I think it was, they changed it to K-8 all in one school, and got rid of the dedicated middle schools. The grades 6-8 classes are physically in a cluster, but still basically all the same school and not really isolated. I've wondered if the presence of the little kids keeps the older ones slightly "younger" than if they are isolated as only older students. Some of the older kids are assigned to younger ones here and there to help them navigate this or that, so there is contact with all groups. Keep the kids young as long as possible!

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Lori's avatar

Get this one from FB.

FROM FACEBOOK, KNOW WHO YOUR VET IS. SEE THIS POST ON FB. THE CLINIC HAS TAKEN DOWN HIS PICTURE FROM THE CLINIC WEBSITE.

Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo

Christopher Rispoli, the woke owner of Gentle Care Animal Hospital in Edmond, Okla., suggested on social media that people should be inspired to kill more people after Charlie Kirk. "He is only the first!"

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kittynana's avatar

@Lori- someone reposted it on FB but it didn't say where he was located. Asshat.

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Lori's avatar

Here is more.

This is what was posted on FB from Christopher Rispoli a veterinarian in Edmond, Oklahoma.  I was not able to copy the imagefrom FB so I had to type it. They have taken down his picture on the clinic website.

https://www.gentlecareah.net/

He wrote, " Charlie Kirk, right wing stupid fuck maga activist shot unalived on Utah campus. He is only the first!  Could we actually be getting smart and culling the sick ones!!!  Oh gosh, I want the offer his family "my thoughts and prayers"!!"He ends with 3 images of a hand with the middle finger raised. 

Please reach out to the American Veterinary Medical Association:

Customer service: 1 (800) 248-2862Headquarters: 1931 North Meacham Road, Suite 100, Schaumburg, IL 60173-4360avmagrd@avma.org

OR

Oklahoma Veterinary Medical Association:

Address: 13917 Quail Pointe Dr, Oklahoma City, OK 73134Phone: (405) 478-1002Phone: (405) 478-1002

Fax: (405) 478-7193

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Wow!

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TiredCitizen's avatar

I still honestly wonder if Satan used the jab to affect people mentally. We have never seen this.

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Beth's avatar

The actual biblical definition of Satan, the adversary, is "the one who makes you question who You are.". Evil does not want you contemplating that you were made in the image of God. And Marxism follows this pattern, doing its best to demoralize everyone, because a demoralized person does not fight back very hard.

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MnmMom's avatar

Our church mid week ministry is studying the book of 1 Peter. I have read 1 Peter before but something new this time. If you need to know who you are in Christ (or who you could be) then this book is so encouraging to your faith and grounds you in who’s you are. Don’t be confused by the adversary. Plant your feet on the solid ground of God’s word written for us and do not fear.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Great comment. Great insight. Totally agree!

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Lori's avatar

just tell satan to piss off. i do this every morning.

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SD Scott's avatar

“Hath God said…?”

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CStone's avatar

Exactly.

And just what Satan did in the wilderness. Quoting the Word partially or out of context. To which our Savior replied….

“It is written……………….”

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SD Scott's avatar

This is how many Christian parents are (not killed but) targeted by slander to have their children removed and trafficked in foster care. It’s an industry.

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Freedom Fox's avatar

Fathers protecting their sons from mothers who want to cut off their penises. With the courts siding with the butchers. Yep.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Yes, you are correct. There are no boundaries on evil in this world.

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CHop's avatar

Senator Nancy Schaefer reported in this and was suicided shortly after. The military is the only way.

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CHop's avatar

Thank you for this. The only thing the article did not mention was that CPS incentives were paid out using social security funds.

Here is another "NOT suicided" suicide. Dad is HUD director for Atlanta:

Former wife of Atlanta official killed their adult children and then herself, police say | CNN https://share.google/jmYe8XROtsKfLPr4c

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Barbls's avatar

I can't open the CNN link, but I looked at a different short article not behind a paywall. What is the reason for their killings? Were they, too, exposing cash for kids?

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Mary Suddath's avatar

I just told my eldest daughter about that comment less than five minutes ago. SMH.

As a retired RN of 44 years, all of the nurses in this country that posted messages celebrating the death of a husband, father, son and friend should be deeply ashamed of themselves. I am ashamed for them. They do not and never will represent those of us who care for our sick and suffering brothers and sisters.

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Horizons's avatar

Some are standing up.

https://x.com/ScottPresler/status/1966638535475093573

A doctor said (in front of several nurses AND A PATIENT) “I hate Charlie Kirk. He had it coming. He deserved it.”

The nurse rebuked him saying, as a doctor, how could he say something like that? She then reported the incident to HR... and SHE was promptly suspended without pay.

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Mary Suddath's avatar

I think the fact that she called him out was admirable, but she made a few strategic errors.

I was a critical care nurse for 38 years and I have called out a pediatric intensivist, a chief trauma resident, a pediatric trauma surgeon, and a pediatric neurosurgeon during my career. However, I never did it in front of a lot of other people. I told each physician I needed to speak to him or her privately after the incident and then we had a discussion followed by me filling out an incident report.

I also reported those incidents to my manager and depending how the conversation went,sometimes to the ethics department.

The physician at that hospital sounds like an extraordinarily unpleasant person and the fact that she embarrassed him in front of other staff and his patient probably made him even more livid and unreasonable. In that case, it’s possible the nurse might have planned to speak with him while bringing someone else with her like her unit manager or the House Supervisor to witness the conversation.

Also, the majority of patients don’t want to rock the boat and make a physician upset so if she expected the patient to speak up, that was another error on her part.

She also should not have posted anything at all on any type of social media. I’m sure that’s what made the hospital’s HR department go after her. I hope she sues the crap out of him and the hospital and that she has a pit bull for her attorney.

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Concerned mom's avatar

She has sued....the hospital and the doctor bc she was told she would be fired...

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

My husband just read me this same thing! Not a doctor I would want to see!

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Richard Tew's avatar

Would not see a a doctor are anyone else that believes in anything like this.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

As the patient, I would have requested a new doc and reported him to the ethics board. Since he hated CK and if for some reason he had had to treat him, I could have seen this doc doing something unethical and illegal to hurt CK. Imagine what this doc would do to a maga or repub

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schneile's avatar

Welp, it happened in kommie NJ (Englewood, in deep blue Bergen County). Shlt like this is why I fled in 2020 and live in Florida now.

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Barbls's avatar

I left kommie NJ in 2020 and fled to South Dakota - where a University professor was fired for posting shit celebrating Kirk's assassination.

The minions are everywhere. In some places they haven't yet reached majority status.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Horrible. It’s because he’s higher in the traditional hierarchy, being a doctor. She should sue.

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Lori's avatar

unbelievable she was suspended. doc should weigh his words as he has it coming.

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SD Scott's avatar

What??

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RunningLogic's avatar

Vile indeed!!! 😡😡😡 So according to this person’s view, if a conservative thinks an atheist or a trans person or an abortion proponent is saying hateful things, then that conservative is justified in removing the hateful person from this earth? That’s the end result of this kind of justification 😡 But of course somehow THEY are the only ones who get to determine who is “hateful” 🙄🙄🙄

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shibumi's avatar

I've come to believe that abortion is the modern version of child sacrifice [to Satan.] Doesn't matter if the mother believes it or not. That's what it is.

These random killings by mentally disturbed liberals might be another type of sacrifice, even if they don't know it.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

To the god Molech.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

🎯

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SD Scott's avatar

Fornication is pagan idolatry. Pushed everywhere as obligatory in “entertainment” now for half a century.

Romans ch 1 explains that once the body is defiled by what is unclean, the conscience becomes darkened and unable to know right & wrong.

Romans 12:1 says that the body is the instrument of spiritual worship.

The perversion of what is sacred is what creates hatred / projected condemnation toward those speaking God’s truth.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

except that it is easy and convenient to believe it is some distrubed libtard,

or for that matter the guys with the box cutters.

Not buying it. The evil is highly orchestrated.

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Gabriella's avatar

Saw this last night in Dr. Christiane Northrop’s Substack post in her comment section.

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Janet's avatar

The child trans ideology is chi ln d sacrifice too. 2020s style

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shibumi's avatar

great point Janet.

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Lori's avatar

I agree shibumi. satanic sacrifice (unless perhaps if you were violently raped?)

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shibumi's avatar

My husband seems to believe that if you are violently raped, you won't get pregnant. I don't know, and I don't know if there are statistics about that.

There is another way to think about abortion that isn't, as far as I know, presented to Christian girls-- it is killing a soul. I think they might think twice about it if it was presented that way. Not a glob of cells, a soul.

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dancingtime's avatar

Sorry but that is an old wives tale about rape doesn't result in pregnancy. Rape is about power, not sex, but, if the woman is ovulating, the egg doesn't care the reason why the sperm are in there....If the sperm meets up with the egg and fertilizes it, viola....pregnancy. How it works.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

I read less than 1% of rapes result in pregnancy. I can’t remember the young woman’s name, but she is a product of rape, an incredible lady with a wonderful testimony. Most in the pro-life community believe that abortion only deepens the wound of the victim. (They’ve seen the evidence.)

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Lori's avatar

I hope they don't get pregnant but I would not condemn someone for ridding the evil that was just spewed into their body.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I think stress plays a natural role with hormones and reproductive system.

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shayne's avatar

Yes

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

That’s what is so maddening!! 🤷🏻‍♀️ No self awareness whatsoever! In their minds they are right and everyone else is Hitler, deserving of death.

I’ve seen lots of commentary, pointing to President Trump‘s hateful rhetoric, but they never mention the Left’s hateful rhetoric, which is so much worse. I will never understand it. 🤦🏻‍♀️

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Lori's avatar

Seems Hitler is being kept alive by the left. So tired of seeing that name it is losing all its historical significance.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I’ve seen the same about Trump’s rhetoric and yet zero mention of all the vile things their side has said and continues to say 😕

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Call it out. The world is watching their evil. God is watching.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I’m still getting nasty replies from non-subscribers who write something, delete it, then usually they block me. It’s a wimpy way to get a point across. This latest one did not like the fact we aren’t getting violent. Maybe just an angry person.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I call them out as victim shaming and remind them every man is responsible for his own actions. No shifting blame to anyone else.

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Dinah Negron's avatar

I was shocked when I read that horrendous post about Erika Kirk. These are lost souls thst desperately need Jesus. One day they will give an accounting of their evil and putrid corruption before our Almighty God, the just and righteous one.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

We know that in the last days evil will increase and that God will give many people over to a depraved mind, that is, a mind that cannot think properly. IMO this is exactly what we are seeing.

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SD Scott's avatar

Romans 1 - deep dark depravity

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Erika suggests that "they" not "him" have no idea what "they" have released.

She is 100% correct.

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schneile's avatar

She knows it wasn't just him. It was the entire Democrat-Marxist-Kommie infrastructure.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

very likely worse, much worse

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PamelaZelie's avatar

This is not just hatred; this is demonic hatred.

The person who wrote this needs an exorcism.

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Lisa Gonsalves's avatar

Whenever I find a hateful post I send them a personal message that I’m praying for them that says :

Dear Lord please help (this person) see the glory that is God so they may be free from their hate and misery.

For this we pray

Amen

That’s the best we can do.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

That may be a good idea in general, but in cases like these, they may actually try to kill you.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Because that kind of person would determine such a message to be “hateful” 🙄😕

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ZuZu’s Petals's avatar

I think I’ve seen the worst of the worst, and then I read something like this!

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Exactly how I felt when I saw it. What kind of a mind thinks this is ok?

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Lori's avatar

and this:

This is what was posted on FB from Christopher Rispoli a veterinarian in Edmond, Oklahoma.  I was not able to copy the image so I had to type it. They have taken down his picture on the clinic website.

https://www.gentlecareah.net/

He wrote, " Charlie Kirk, right wing stupid fuck maga activist shot unalived on Utah campus. He is only the first!  Could we actually be getting smart and culling the sick ones!!!  Oh gosh, I want the offer his family "my thoughts and prayers"!!"He ends with 3 images of a hand with the middle finger raised. 

Please reach out to the American Veterinary Medical Association:

Customer service: 1 (800) 248-2862Headquarters: 1931 North Meacham Road, Suite 100, Schaumburg, IL 60173-4360avmagrd@avma.org

OR

Oklahoma Veterinary Medical Association:

Address: 13917 Quail Pointe Dr, Oklahoma City, OK 73134Phone: (405) 478-1002Phone: (405) 478-1002

Fax: (405) 478-7193

admin@okvma.org

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Pelicanus's avatar

I think they tried that in Argentina in the 70s. Doesn't always work

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shayne's avatar

WOW. That's soaked in karma.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

😮😮😮

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen. it is Romans 1 world

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Chixbythesea's avatar

To your point about being dependent upon our modern conveniences….

I have decided the, “words are violence” narrative is a symptom of, “white privilege.” Just playing around but hear me out. The “global south” knows the difference between “words are violence” and actual “violence,” because they have to live around actual violence every day. “Words are violence” is a luxury only to be found in the western world.

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Roger Beal's avatar

You correctly identify "words are violence" and similar AWFL slogans as first-world creations.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Comes out of Wisconsin originally. I enjoy the pleasure of being able to say things like this with impunity. As a dark skinned woman from South America I am happy to dish it right back to these retards. If they start in with the name calling I shame them with their own twisted rhetoric. They tend to crawl away into a hole. 👍🏿

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CMCM's avatar

They really have shallow intellects and their "arguments" are virtually always bumper sticker slogans they have picked up. There is no thought beyond spewing their slogans, to them the slogan is enough. Ad hominem attacks are the last resort of those who have no argument. It's pretty pathetic and if things weren't so serious at this point, they are laughable.

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Truth Seeker's avatar

Your postitioning dumbfounds the libtards who then slither further into the abyss.

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Ceashel's avatar

Yes, I realize now, the "Words are Violence" belief/slogan is a "Luxury Belief" . It's mostly held by people who've never experienced any real violence.

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Angk's avatar

Words are lies or Truth. Stop playing the middle. Speak the truth. If it hurts someone's feelings, speak it again. Only truth can prevail now. Speak the Truth, bravely, and sincerely. Truth doesn't have to be a cudgel, but Charlie Kirk spoke honest simple Truth. We must do the same. Feelings and emotions have no place in Truth. Decency and honesty, with a heavy dose of Truth will prevail - Just like Charlie Kirk.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Most of the time…..

There’s a way to do it without distraction and detraction from the point. Avoid use of the word “you” for one thing. Speak of “people who….” This prevents the amygdala from rising up like an invisible force shield to block reasonable and logical thought. Leave the cage door open so the bird can return.

However….

If you are directly attacked….

This is a different matter and turning the tables can in fact shut them down. Helps to be part Cherokee or Latin American or some such….

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Astragale's avatar

Exactly Chix.

Same with “micro aggression”.

People who have real problems can’t get het up about “micro” problems….

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SD Scott's avatar

As in microscopic.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Hmmmm…. Micro problems. 🤔

That could be a problem! 😂

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CMCM's avatar

My husband and I sometimes joke about how some of their complaints should be called "subatomic aggressions." They're that ridiculous.

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Lori's avatar

nano aggressions?

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Anon E. Mousse's avatar

Giving the phrase "words are violence" an expansive reading, and promoting its widespread adoption as if it were revealed truth, is not wise.

Words of violence, or words inciting violence, are another matter entirely.

I have heard it mentioned that characterizing words as violence becomes a pretext for responding with actual violence as self defense.

There is much to consider. We no longer live in a world of face-to-face confrontation, but we do live in a world of electronic transmissions that are susceptible of working irrevocable changes on peoples' lives and reputations. A sane exploration, reaching beyond the professional classes, is in order.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Well said! Yes! “Words are violence” as a narrative is different from words of violence. However, the thrust of the “words are violence” message is to enforce conformity through guilt and self doubt on the part of the speaker. Conformity to nebulous, ever changing, and subjective lists of words according to the listener. This is an impossible task under the most generous of circumstances.

I believe this is an intentional scheme to enforce a class system as to who is allowed speech and who is not, and oppresses the use of words generally. To quote Jordan Peterson, “You need words in order to think.” So banning words restricts our ability to reason and process. I happen to agree.

I realize I’m getting into the weeds but I will mention that I notice German words and phrases often include more built in meanings than English, and they have a culture of creating new meanings by bridging words together in everyday speech and writing. English language speakers don’t do this as a regular course. This allows for the potential of more nuance and definitive expression in German than in English.

By contrast, Simplified Mandarin is a contextual language; there are a lot of missing pieces. People sometimes complain about this as it leads to more difficulty in describing nuance.

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Lori's avatar

We can't hinder any speech, even if it is egregious bc then where will that end. if the evils get back in, they will censor anything they don't want to hear. imho, anyone who is going to do violence bc they are empty Spiritually, will do it anyway, regardless of speech.

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Dena's avatar

And if words are violence then real violence against them is justified. They really are crazy.

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MaryAnn's avatar

Agree to an extent. “Words are violence” is a first world issue, not a white privilege issue. To quote Charlie Kirk: name one thing he, as a white male, can do that a non-white person cannot do. That request would stymie the debate about white privilege. The opposition hated his speaking truth to their lies.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

It’s not about what people can do. And no, it’s not likely that Charlie had truly unique skills or abilities. It’s about expectations and culture.

I don’t agree that “words are violence” is an issue, just a narrative thrown against the wall to see if it will stick.

I agree it’s nothing to do with the “white” race. Though, there is some debate whether, for example, Brazil is considered “first world” or not, though I’m pretty sure Brazilians think so, and there is plenty of actual violence in Brazil. There are a heavy mix of races in Brazil, mostly not white.

Most of us on this thread probably understand what is implied by “white privilege,” the notion that being of the white race opens doors in a society which was created by mostly white males for white males.

As an aside…. on the lefty “oppression hierarchy” (🤮) my Chinese friends are now considered “white,” to their chagrin.

I’m happy to continue the discussion. Just commenting on your reply.

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Silent scorn's avatar

🎯

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RunningLogic's avatar

So if those who are celebrating Charlie’s assassination stand by their assertion that if someone is being “hateful”, it’s ok to end their life, then by the same token if a conservative deems the speech of a leftist to be “hateful” it is also ok to end the leftist’s life? That’s the end result of their view. Oh but I forgot, THEY are the only ones who can determine if someone is being “hateful.” And only people they disagree with can be “hateful.” As usual it only goes one way and they are the ultimate hypocrites 🙄😡

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Lori's avatar

bingo. CK was not hateful but since they are empty vessels spritually, they have no discernment and hence what you describe above. With all our sorrow and grief over CK, not one of us in this country started burning, protesting, destroying property etc. Not one. at least we can define the evil enemy by name and shun it. we will not sink into the abyss they are in.

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Dawn B's avatar

We aren't burning cities but we are being further divided.

Honestly as much as I liked CK, I question this whole crisis. If we don't question it, as bad as that sounds, they got into our heads.

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Lori's avatar

What specifically are you questioning Dawn? Always good to keep an open mind. We have been divided for some time now and we will never come together with the left, never. All one needs to do is read the Bible, all spelled out right there. Please stay safe and healthy.

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Dawn B's avatar

Keeping an open mind for psyops… The division I see is good and evil.

I probabably should just quit looking and not care but I question anyone with a large platform as much as I like CK, I do not underestimate the powers that be. It doesn't matter how or who was involved, but it was done to traumatize us and, as usual, a lone gunman. I just want to ignore it all.

I happened across Amos 5 and applied it to large platforms, making money, speaking out, and justice.

I am thinking what Michael Yon is thinking but the only thing that matters is God knows we are manipulated and He allows the sun to rise and set.

https://open.substack.com/pub/michaelyon/p/charlie-kirk-psyop-off-the-reservation?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=tglvc

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Chixbythesea's avatar

This is an example as to why CK was “dangerous and needed to be eliminated.”

https://www.facebook.com/reel/1513508409781826/?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&fs=e&mibextid=wwXIfr&fs=e

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Lori's avatar

Oh yes, agreed about psyops but are you saying that CK was not true in his calling and psyoping us?

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Seeing so many people living a life with no discernment is scary! It’s like a lost soul wondering aimlessly & recklessly.

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SD Scott's avatar

Experts on hate.

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Lori's avatar

Darn right Dave! So good to have you back:}

Other news, time for a boycott.

Office Depot facing boycott calls after Michigan store (allegedly-yeah right) refused to print poster for Charlie Kirk vigil calling it propaganda. They took the customer's money for the poster and several hours later called him later to say they would not do it.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

They fired the employee and issued an apology.

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

The other person, also an employee, that stood there agreeing and going along with it should have been fired also.

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schneile's avatar

They were. Per Robby Starbuck:

@robbystarbuck

I just received an email from officedepot CEO Gerry Smith and he has assured me that the company has now fired ALL associates involved in this insane discrimination where they denied printing a Charlie Kirk memorial photo for a prayer vigil. Part of his statement below:

"We continue to closely manage our response to the unfortunate customer experience that occurred at Office Depot Store 3382 in Portage, Michigan on September 12. The behavior displayed by the associates was completely unacceptable and insensitive, violated our company policies, and did not reflect the values we uphold at Office Depot. On behalf of the Company, we sincerely apologize for this regrettable situation.

Upon learning of the incident, we immediately reached out to the customer to address their concerns. We also launched an immediate internal review and, as a result, the associates responsible are no longer with the organization."

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Not good enough. Should not have happened in the first place. Best they start vetting employees better. I have no doubt they will transfer Beryl to another store now or when things simmer down. I will never go there again nor will family and friends.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I’m glad they are showing themselves and being fired. Bring on more!! 😂 Even though it is the most disgusting thing I have seen, I want them to out themselves. Including that sick-o Steven King 😡

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Stephen King has always been revolting; just look at the malignant stories he writes based in all evil. There is truly something wrong with him. Never liked him or his crap, never will. He can hang out with the Ben and Jerry crowd.

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Susan Seas's avatar

💯 🎯

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Patti's avatar

Right? I saw Stephen apologize (ya right) and my response is simply Charlie’s values and beliefs are well documented and he has a platform Stephen should be more aware of the power of words and truth before speaking lies

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Lori's avatar

king is an empty vessel with nothing but evil thoughts that he puts on paper and sells.

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Armor of Light's avatar

I quit reading Stephen King after the book IT was published. I knew he came from a dark place of evil with no redeeming light. He sickens me every time he spews hate.

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Susan Seas's avatar

It’s about time they learned they’re not the majority! They have been lied to and gaslit into believing They are the majority. It’s about time!

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Tom's avatar

King's books are soaked in pedophilia. There's always a molestation theme, and King's narration is always enough to deceptively disgust anyone with a modicum of a conscience, but plenty enough to tempt those without.

His work is subtle and disgusting.

One could pray that he would come to know the Truth . . . Perhaps he is a victim of the things he writes about.

In any case, I will not be entertained by his work.

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Roger Beal's avatar

They likely cannot get better enployees because they cannot find ANY employees for these menial jobs.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

wrote them this morning and just heard back from their media relations team. Here is their response.

Thank you for your email. We continue to closely manage our response to the unfortunate customer experience that occurred at Office Depot Store 3382 in Portage, Michigan on September 12. The behavior displayed by the associates was completely unacceptable and insensitive, violated our company policies, and did not reflect the values we uphold at Office Depot. On behalf of the Company, we sincerely apologize for this regrettable situation.

Upon learning of the incident, we immediately reached out to the customer to address their concerns. We also launched an immediate internal review and, as a result, the associates responsible are no longer with the organization.

At Office Depot, our established printing policy is to provide print services to all customers in a fair, consistent, and nondiscriminatory manner, in accordance with applicable laws and company guidelines. We are committed to serving our communities with respect, integrity and professionalism. Our customers and communities deserve nothing less.

Thank you,

Media Relations

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Roger Beal's avatar

"The associateS" ... plural. If true, good on Office Depot.

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helene's avatar

the employee was fired today

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

It’s name was beryl? Of course it was. Halfbreed, but all in on the q tip look.

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Lori's avatar

take a look at beryls pic.

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Lori's avatar

exactly. what I note profoundly is how ugly the outside of the dems are. really take a look at them. no smile, frown lines, many overweight, constant whining/complaining. Using face fillers/botox like pelosi to hide it but you can see it so easily. the heaviness of evil is upon them. that is why their whole countenance looks amiss.

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Susan Seas's avatar

🤣 ❤️‍🔥

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

🤣🤣

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And then they went to Fedex and those folks printed it for free.

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Lori's avatar

Yes they did. Bravo to Fedex.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Love that!!

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Patti's avatar

💪🏽way to go fedex. I will use them for my needs from here on out

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

💥❤️

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm not on Facepoop any longer--what does this link lead to, Janice?

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Lori's avatar

Facepoop, excellent description Sharon. Neither am I. It is office depot groveling with a fake apology over what they did to a customer and his order re: CK.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

At first when I left FB in January of 2021, I "missed" some of the connections that I had made over the 12 years I was on that platform--but I don't any longer. A few of them answer my e-mails I send to them periodically--they were true "friends"!!

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Critical Thinker's avatar

Seems like they did the right thing, and handled a bad situation as well as possible. What else could they have done?

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Lori's avatar

called the police to say he is radicalized? called a priest to intervene?

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

It’s an image of their apology, otherwise I would share the text here.

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SuezCanal's avatar

It's in Jeff's article, near the beginning where he references firings over those who are inappropriate in their responses to Charlie's execution.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Thank you, I haven't had a chance to read the post yet.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Yes, more blah blah blah says the woke company. They are only worried about boycotts and dollars.

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Susan G's avatar

Let's all just use FedEx. Boycotts amplify the company, not the issue.

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schneile's avatar

Did you hear how FedEx handled it? FedEx printed it for FREE and even apologized for cancellation treatment by Office Depot.

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Susan G's avatar

Yep. Good corporate citizen and VERY SMART

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

Quick question: WHO gets to decide what should and shouldn't be printed? Hmmm

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Office Depot gets to decide. We get to decide not to shop there. Also, if they discriminate they will be sued.

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InquizitiveOne's avatar

Well, since they contacted the person, fired the employee and tried to make it right, they may have escaped the boycott that was surely about to happen.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I guess they went into survival mode. Good idea for a business.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

OR who bakes a cake for deviants/Tranz-freaks?

I am OK with Office Depot refusing to print something... I am also OK if their windows and doors are smashed out.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

I won’t stoop that low. I suggest you do not either. You are responsible in life for your own actions. They can go out of business due to low profits.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Spoken like a true wimp that does nothing to stop the current outrages of the lawless.

You have no right to complain about anything. You are a spectator and a spineless and pompous one at that.

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shayne's avatar

Absolutely Robinson was groomed. Kids raised in conservative families aren't necessarily ready for a shitty world. Cut university funding.

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SD Scott's avatar

Cut funding to Marxist education. Teach actual communist history - long before college.

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SD Scott's avatar

Soviet gulags, parts 1-3:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eewxo3oAw20

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Peace's avatar

Sounds like Robinson was only at university for a short while (a years or less) and finished/finishing out at a tech school. I would hope a tech school would be devoid of woke interferences!

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shayne's avatar

Doesn't take much especially for a kid who wants to have friends. I don't know very many young people who are willing to be the odd one out. I read that he was living with a transgender partner.

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Lorita's avatar

Dave I totally agree. I was reading the bible yesterday and a thought came to me that everything that is happening is leading to the Kingdom of God. Maybe God's Holy Spirit giving me peace until it appears. To anyone who disagrees, go ahead, but I will never debate what I know. Blessings all

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Beth's avatar

AND, Charlie's death will be a miracle. I have a neighbor who is a full-blown atheist. Always making comments about anybody who says I'll pray for you, or anything like that.

Well lo and behold last night, he decided to go see what the fuss was about this Charlie guy. And he watched 2 hours of videos by charlie. It was a stunning reversal. My atheist friend said, "you know the guy was a real effective speaker. And he makes a lot of good points. I'm really glad the young kids are listening to him."

Might not seem like much, but if you knew this guy you would be stunned. So there's the miracle of Charlie Kirk. People who never in a million years would listen to him are now tuning in. I think Charlie knew that.

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LaNell Tew's avatar

Praise God! Charlie did not die in vain. As Joseph told his brothers, what you meant for harm, God used it for good.

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Lori's avatar

Amen.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Exactly what many pastors are saying to their congregations...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiBXSdsX8VA

&

The White House shared a video of the gospel message!

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FH's avatar

God’s ways are not our ways. After I doubled over in tears I remembered this. Tears still flow, my heart remembers.

Erika Kirk: I saw somewhere that Charlie trusted her to mother his children as they wished to parent. She is simply remarkable. NTD/Epoch Times carried a short bio of her, and it’s no wonder God brought them together.

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WIMomof3's avatar

I read something along the lines of: You may not believe that God exists, but we’ve been proven time and time again that evil sure does. I want to be on the opposite side of that.

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kittynana's avatar

@Beth. Not small at all. That's HUGE.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Goes to show you what TRUTH Charlie was sharing around the country for over 13 years. He is resting in his Savior’s arms right now—but I grieve for his beautiful family most of all!!

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SD Scott's avatar

Keep praying for the lost. We need spiritual revival for all ages.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow! That’s a real testament to the power of Charlie’s method!

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SD Scott's avatar

And the power of prayers poured out now for our nation to turn around.

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Quadriped's avatar

Have you heard of Starlink?

Elon saves the world many times over.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Lol, yes, and I hope to be able to switch next year.

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Connie Schultz's avatar

I just put in Starlink last week. For me $262 to purchase including the mount. Hired the local satellite/cable tv guy to install at $168! Monthly service at $120 less than my prior Viasat.

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CMCM's avatar

I would so love to get Starlink, but I live in the mountains with a lot of tall pines and I can't get enough clear sky for it. 😢

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Joe Katzman's avatar

Use the pines!

Seriously. Have a pro climb one near the house, top it, screw in a clamp holding the antenna pole and antenna. Run the wire down the tree, across into 2nd floor and SL wifi router. Or to a weatherproof box near ground with power and a bridge/ router, then to the SL wifi.

I know someone who did this with a 100+ foot redwood. It works, they say it’s fine in rain and even winds.

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CMCM's avatar

A lot of people this this in my area, but it's an issue due to snow in the winter. Can't climb a tree to brush off the snow!

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Concerned mom's avatar

Keep the pines! They are health and life to you.... and I'm jealous!

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

Right now there is a deal on the equipment.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

Works great!

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Too expensive currently... but perhaps soon it will be competitive.

I'd love to dump my cable company.

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FlatEarthFlyer's avatar

There are people on this Earth that look human, but they are NOT children of YHWH. They are children of the Devil who possess a literally satanic bloodline (Genesis 3:15). Jesus tried to tell his disciples (and us) over and over (Matthew 13, Matthew 7, John 8:44, et al):

“But blessed are your eyes for they see, and your ears for they hear.”

“I will open my mouth in parables; I will utter what has been HIDDEN SINCE THE FOUNDATION OF THE WORLD.”

Jesus told us you will know them by their fruit. It’s not just that they DO evil things. It’s because their genome PREVENTS them from doing GOOD.

Why else would Jesus ask, “Are grapes gathered from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?” What differentiates a grape vine from a thorn bush, or a fig from a thistle? It’s not disease. It’s DNA. It’s the SPECIES. They may belong to the same GENUS, but they are not the same SPECIES.

Same with humans. Believers carry the divine Image of YHWH in their blood. Evildoers do not.

It’s even more refined in the story of the wheat and tares. Tares can’t be differentiated from wheat until their grain (SEED) matures. What is a seed? A packet of DNA.

Why do you think Jesus accused the Pharisees of being a brood of vipers (serpents) and the offspring of the Devil? I don’t think he was speaking in parables in those instances…

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Thank you FEF.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Hogwash.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Your comment supposes that the “amplified dog whistle story” about Tyler Robinson, Charlie Kirk’s “alleged” killer is true. There are Soo many holes to this story. And it all seems so made up and contrived by the Utah authorities and the Gubment. It’s following a “playbook” that “they” have used on us over and over again. It’s all a distraction. This was a “professional hit”, well planned and thought out. This was not done by this young Mormon kid. He’s just the “Lee Harvey Oswald” in this story.

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Tio Nico's avatar

No so posiive his is so. The kid is 22. I have known "kids" at 15 easily able to put ten shots into a one and a half inch hole at 400 yds actual in less than one minute. not difficult. This was half that distance.

We don't KNOW whethe the kid aimed at the neck, head, chest. We may find out now he is in custody. Not a big issue. Any of those aim points would be lethal, almost instantly. Chalie is dead, his assassin in custody.

Th kid's LDS upb inging does not seem to have done well by him. My bet is that twisted "theology" emphasised obeying the LDS laws occupied a high place above knowing and living by God's laws. Not the same. Do as we say not as God says.

TEACH the childen to know God's law and LIVE by it. Not to "do what I tell ya. " the kid was obviously consumed by his fantasy online schtick because his Papa was absent in any meaningful way in his life. NOT a situation limited to LDS folk by any means.

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CMCM's avatar

No matter how you are brought up, I've read many times about how a child's peer group can come to have an influence greater than that of the parents. Of course this isn't always true, but if you have a weak person who latches onto a bad group, he can be influenced. I think this stuff needs to be noticed and dealt with early. One example is in my daughter's classroom (6th grade). One particular boy was starting to be a ringleader of sorts for two other boys in terms of unacceptable behavior. My daughter spoke to the other two teachers who had this group of boys and they all worked together to split them up, seated far apart from each other so they had to interact with other nicer kids. The problem boy in particular started behaving better, and the other two boys went back to their nice, polite previous behaviors. So you have to nip this stuff in the bud as much as possible.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Yes, a good bi of he poblem is with he schools. ButI will go back to the ONLY valid bottom line: the bible spells it out bluntly: fathe s TEACH YOU own child en. Leaving you kids in the hands of gummit skewlz without keeping tabs on what's going on is most often a death sentence to the child en.

few public schools would do what you desc ibe. The woke teach would most likely get behind the little gang thinking the best thing is to "let them wok it ou". And too often we get dead people. O emotionally messed up kids. Some of whom can ahd have killed.

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Peace's avatar

Your daughter sounds incredibly mature - do let her know that she has at least one admirer besides her parents for this thoughtful and brave act.

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Justin's avatar

The LDS faith has a central tenet of individual agency. I have 5 kids, and many of them have left the faith. I wasn't the best father, and was a workaholic, trying to get by on one income. I hope to be able to talk with them again someday.

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Tio Nico's avatar

It seems you have planted upon a big boulder in Upstate NY whee a guy claims he found some golden plates with symbols in it he was not able to decipher until second guy showed up and handed him some glasses enabling him to deciphe them. You also admit that boulder has not done so well by you and family.

May I sugges you open a new window and type in tpusa, then ind a local bunch. Tell them you story and pay attention to them. They all have been planted upon the rock of Jesus Chist, that same one Charlie is planted upon. Listen to them and heed. You NEED a new foundation. The ONE Chalie has will do you well If you plant you self upon it. You will not go back. And towhe five chillden you have will follow you onto that rock once they see the fruit you grow and want it too... unless they have aleady been planted upon that rock.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

And YOU have planted upon a ancient mythology that is, if you have the stones to admit it... deep inconsistencies and flaws... some of them laughable.

Christianity is embraced by around a THIRD of world population... a minority... so best to be humble, follow what you wish, but try not to be arrogant and judgemental in advising others...

Respect all "faiths", but reject those who pompously judge others, as if there were something wrong with them for not believing as they do.

Read Biglino's "The Naked Bible"... even YOUR faith is built on shaky/controversial ground. An offshoot of ancient Judaism... which, IMO, is a repellent and poisonous mythology. Witness today's Israel.

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Tio Nico's avatar

I'd say that beginning at effectively naught at 30 AD to ## % is not a bad showing, espciallu as to how so many millions of us have been killed because we foillow that guy in the Holy Land all those two thousand yeas back. They begah slaughteing us in the beginning. Won't stop now.Ask Chalie.

Have you studied any of the non-blblical documents of that 1st 100 yeas? I have. Non biblical histoy confims much of the bible. s'shakey foundation? Not so much.

As to that "bible" you mention, I don't know what it is, but I doubt i is legit. Thanks all the same, I will stick to the solid texts.

One thing else..... todays Judaism is NOT based on even the old texts. They do NOT follow the God of Ab aham, Isaac, Jacob, Moses, as laid out in the own holy book. God does indeed seem to be blessing them, but I believe the day of settlement come.. likely soon. I have no glass ball, and i I did I'd not consult it, byt MU guess is that painful days ae soon to come upon the Jews of Isael. They do NOT follow, even obey, the God they claim to. They don't even seek Him.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I saw a photo of the assassin as a child. He had a rifle in his hand. There were photos of the entire family handling AR-15s. It looked like they did quite a bit of recreational shooting. Look on facebook under " Amber Jones Robinson." The account is deleted but quite a few people reposted the photos.

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Tio Nico's avatar

All this means is that the assassin was most likely an excellent ma ksman. This account s neut al, meaningless. .

I teach ma ksmanship and many of the people that show up have the whole family involved. I have had kids as young as six on my line, and they pay attention, handle themselves safely, and love it. In the time I've done this (12 years, above 50 events). I've only seen two late teen kids behaving out of line. All it took to set them in line was a firm word from an ADULT saying definitively ONCE more, you will be GONE. End of issue

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I've seen some of the kids in my own extended family learning to shoot rifles. Their dad wanted them to learn proper respect for firearms and all the safety rules. That's a good way to make sure they don't play with guns with unintended results.

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Tio Nico's avatar

shameless plug... the absolute best teaching in this field is Project Appleseed, a nationwide all volunteer outfit. We have developed the best training out thee, so good militay and LE want it too. And we give it to them. I've had students as young as 6, and as old as 96. They ALL learn and impove. go to appleseedinfo dot org to find an event close by. We also as what we do teach the history of how and why along with who and where the day of Lexington and Concod went down. That aspect of the outfit is what made ME come back and do what it took to become an Instucto.

Since 2009 Ive taught at 56 events, beween six and 135 students on the line. Yes the smell of gunpowde in the wind is pleasing, but the sound of feedom and building is moe sweet.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Charlie was wearing a vest... so almost NONE of those "usual" aim-points (no one aims for the neck or head at 200+ yards) would have been lethal.

The bullet deflected off the upper chest part of the vest to open Charlie's jugular... a VERY unlucky thing.

And shooting at targets is quite different than shooting to murder... for most.

There is no sin in our society becoming much more authoritarian... against criminals and violent and/or seditious anti-society types... in that criminals should learn that major crimes, especially assault and murder, will be met with appallingly vicious blow-back. I recommend making certain high-level crimes punishable by revocation of citizenship, or, if the perp is an illegal, 5-10 in a forced labor camp or El Salvador prison.

Many will disagree... but our society is on the brink of break-down, our society's "freedoms" used against us. Radicals USE these freedoms as cudgels... radical lawfare judges and politicians are a cancer. Why not try a system that is geared to the protection and safety of citizens, rule of LAW... rather than one that panders to the scum of society?

BTW: IMO... LDS is a dangerous cult. A scam much like Scientology... But if law-abiding... OK.

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Vicki's avatar

hey leave Scientology alone. Stay civil in this discussion space.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Who's being uncivil?

Are YOU a Scientologist nut-roll loser?

Are YOU the ruler of this discussion space? No? Then STFU, and don't try to lecture anyone... other than maybe some of your Scientology goof-ball loser friends.

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helene's avatar

I think Trump said on an early Fox News broadcast on Friday that there was trans involved with Tyler Robinson...according to the NY Post he's been living with a guy named Twigg who has been "transitioning" to a girl, in other words they are both gay and one of them thinks he wants to be a girl, in the end they are both male no matter what is done to his body.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Maybe he’s dead…😉🕵🏼‍♀️🤔

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Justin's avatar

Who is this guy in the dark clothing in this video? (I don't have a facebook account, but was able to watch it in a private window.) He is standing to the right of Charlie, and it LOOKS like he standing there, arms crossed, and when the shot goes off, he pulls back what looks like a barrel. https://www.facebook.com/reel/1545441209953623?sfnsn=mo&mibextid=6AJuK9

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PEL's avatar

I did see a video where the trajectory of the shot does not make sense. The podcaster seemed to think it came from the side not the back. Also Charlie was under a canopy. Was there a clear sight line from above? I hope these things are confirmed.

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WIMomof3's avatar

Agree except that a professional wouldn’t have gone for the neck. They would have hit their target spot on.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I read, and saw confirming pics... that Charlie was in fact wearing a vest... no one, even a pro, would aim for a jugular shot at 200 yards... the bullet hit the vest, high on Charlie's left side and deflected up, ripping open his jugular...

I saw a fairly close video showing a fountain of blood erupting, Charlie had ZERO chance to survive it... no way to stop it, he bled out very quickly.

BUT... if the shot was not a bit high, the bullet would have hit the vest more solidly and Charlie would have very likely survived it.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

A side view showed him getting hit in the chest, looked like it was intended to strike his heart. Some people saw a ricochet. I couldn't see that. The point is, they need to start using bulletproof glass shields. The vest didn't stop the shot. Right now I'm in the "denial" stage, wanting to believe the idiots that said this was fake and that Charlie didn't die. This morning I'm trying to make that theory fit. (Yes, I know!)

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Upper chest, yes... and yes, the vest DID stop the shot, but unfortunately, the shot was deflected up into Charlies neck/jugular.

It's not a fake, I wish it were.

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Jamison's avatar

I read that Charlie wore a bulletproof vest.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

So you think that a shot to the neck is not a “spot on hit”? It needed to be a “shot to the head”?

He immediately “bled out” or so the “amplified dog whistle story” goes.🙄

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I saw a video of the hit before it was taken down for being too graphic.

He bled out for sure... his jugular was opened up... it was a FOUNTAIN of blood... terrible stuff... and no, that was not the aiming point... the bullet deflected off of Charlie's vest (upper chest).

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I am not denying that Mr. Kirk was in fact “shot” from a long range position, in the neck/carotid artery and that is what killed him. I am disputing the “narrative” that the Gubment (FBI) and The Utah Authorities are “spinning” about this young Mormon man, Tyler Robison being the “shooter”. So much of what they are staying as well as NOT saying, just doesn’t add up for me. They are following a “playbook” that has been trotted out one too many times now, regarding these type of “shootings” and who the “shooter” was.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I agree that there are a LOT of questions about the shooting.

Ditto Crooks and Routh... why have those investigations been silenced/quashed?

When a country has lost faith and confidence in its highest level law enforcement... you can bet we are very near to a collapse.

Kash and Blondi are HUGE disappointments, IMHO. They are actively suppressing a ton of info we have a right to know... the Epstein, 911, JFK/RFK files are just a major example. They spew a ton of BS... but no indictments or prosecutions... who do they really serve? (Besides Israel?)

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Litr8r's avatar

Absolutely! The shooter was probably the same CIA agent or assassin paid by China/Soros/Pick-an-enemy-of-the-USA who did the hit on Trump.

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shibumi's avatar

This guy has an interesting take on the whole situation:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=azE7nqqQMmo

-viewpoint of a behaviorial expert

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Agreed…just watched this yesterday. Hughes is a “leading military and intelligence behavior expert”, specializing in “Neuro Cognitive Intelligence/NCI”, that studies “human behavior and influence”.

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CMCM's avatar

Incredible video. I've never heard of Chase Hughes before, but he is good. Thank you for posting.

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SuezCanal's avatar

Very important from Chase Hughes. He is spot on.

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Beth's avatar

And as a shooter, I have a lot of doubts that the arrested guy is the actual shooter. That was a very tricky shot. Especially after listening to Chase. My theory is they put a gun in that kid's hand and let him think he did The killing. He is now basking in the glory that comes from the left for people like him, remember luigi? But this was not the shooter. That was a professional hit.

Two things that lead me to believe this. First there was a quickly publicized and then buried story about a high dollar Democrat donor who was nearby and had a small plane that left immediately after the shooting. It was highly suspicious because he wasn't gone very long, it was like he was dropping someone off.

Secondly the supposed shooter's mom said she was surprised that it was her son, because he doesn't go to the range very much. Granted you could play video games and learn a lot of the skills, but you have to go to the range to shoot like that. I don't care if it's 200 yards or a thousand yards, there's more to this story. And we may never find out.

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lia's avatar

Another Patsy. How many times have we been fooled with this?

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Peace's avatar

If the son lived in an apartment, and not at home, how would the mother know if/when the son had gone to the range to shoot?

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RunningLogic's avatar

He could’ve gone without her knowledge though.

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Constitution Rules's avatar

Absolutely. And, it just adds to the other questions.

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Double Mc's avatar

That was quite excellent, and definitely worth sharing.

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Carrie's avatar

Amen Dave Geezermann!

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Jeff S's avatar

Nice, Dave.

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Lori's avatar

FROM FACEBOOK, KNOW WHO YOUR VET IS. SEE THIS POST ON FB. THE CLINIC HAS TAKEN DOWN HIS PICTURE FROM THE CLINIC WEBSITE.

Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo

Christopher Rispoli, the woke owner of Gentle Care Animal Hospital in Edmond, Okla., suggested on social media that people should be inspired to kill more people after Charlie Kirk. "He is only the first!"

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Lori - Zak carried that story on his news yesterday evening. He showed a photo of that man standing in front of a very large sign he had made that expressed those vile views. Further, he is "married" to a man who is a sex offender. His actions have exposed him and his evil sentiments to the community, and I'm sure his customers are going to be removing their business from his clinic by the droves. That is Oklahoma, and it is a red state. I suspect his "clinic" will soon go out of business. Maybe he will be run out of town.

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Lori's avatar

Here is whole thing if you did not see it. AVMA is now on Bluesky so they may not care what he said. Saddens and sickens me to no end. What is happening to our medical/veterinary professions?

This is what was posted on FB from Christopher Rispoli a veterinarian in Edmond, Oklahoma.  I was not able to copy the image so I had to type it. They have taken down his picture on the clinic website.

https://www.gentlecareah.net/

He wrote, " Charlie Kirk, right wing stupid fuck maga activist shot unalived on Utah campus. He is only the first!  Could we actually be getting smart and culling the sick ones!!!  Oh gosh, I want the offer his family "my thoughts and prayers"!!"He ends with 3 images of a hand with the middle finger raised. 

Please reach out to the American Veterinary Medical Association:

Customer service: 1 (800) 248-2862Headquarters: 1931 North Meacham Road, Suite 100, Schaumburg, IL 60173-4360avmagrd@avma.org

OR

the Oklahoma Veterinary Medical Association:

Address: 13917 Quail Pointe Dr, Oklahoma City, OK 73134Phone: (405) 478-1002Phone: (405) 478-1002

Fax: (405) 478-7193

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Truth Seeker's avatar

The explanation is FAR TOO CONVENIENT. Not buying it.

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JLock's avatar

Well said.

I too I’m curious to see what exactly was going on with the shooter and who was involved in radicalizing him and possibly leading him towards murder. With the Trump administration in charge, I have some hope that a proper investigation will be done.

The first attempt on Trump’s life seems to have eerie parallels to Charlie Kirk’s murder. Last time, everything was swept under the rug and cleaned up. That must not happen in this case.

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Connor Jones's avatar

It’s not just the young men he affected. Two of my sisters have been standing up to their beliefs and Charlie’s to their friends. A young woman in my church congregation was a spearhead in organizing Charlie Kirk coming to uvu. Her first response after the assassination when talking to our bishop was to request to speak on Sunday.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

You are so right, thank you for pointing that out. An entire younger generation, male and female, are impacted by Charlie's work.

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Connor Jones's avatar

And thank goodness for it. I think us men will need the women to hold us back. I’m unmarried and don’t have kids. I hope to hell it doesn’t get to civil war territory, but I’ve got a lot less to lose if it does…

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Besides the atrocious videos celebrating Charlie’s assassination circulating on social media, I am also seeing posts condemning Americans for being more upset at the “death” of one man than the victims of school shootings. These people are so misguided. I generally don’t respond to them as I know they won’t “hear” me, but in light of this tragedy, I have broken my rule and am responding to them all:

I hear the anguish in your words, and I share your heartbreak over the violence that plagues our country—from classrooms to churches to public squares. But I think you may be misreading the response to Charlie Kirk’s assassination. The outrage isn’t just about one man’s death—it’s about what that death represents. Charlie wasn’t targeted for who he was, but for what he stood for: the right to speak freely, to challenge ideas, to participate in the public square without fear. That’s not just a personal tragedy. It’s a civic alarm. And while Americans are deeply outraged by school shootings (as they should be), the grief over one kind of violence doesn’t cancel out the grief over another. The attack on Charlie wasn’t just an attack on a person. It was an attack on AMERICA, on the founding principle that ideas should be met with dialogue, not bullets. That’s what’s at stake. And that’s what must be defended.

I don’t know that it will do any good, but it makes me feel better…

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Maureen ODH's avatar

As hard as asking questions are in our hours of horror, shock, and sadness… this is Diva Drops substack:

In my view this guy was chosen just to a mission: plant the gun at the trees and go towards the University and step up the rooftop to be part as a piece. Not supposed to be blamed (as was told to him and he thought). This is why he wasn't armed with the rifle at the entrance. His part of the plan was to be a decoy, as others too. Like the old man skinhead that was catch first. But the plan was 'changed' to make him as the scapegoat. The shooter was an unknown professional. Just like Kennedys case. Conclusion: The rifle premediated found in tree lines was the one he was carrying, but wasn't used by him to kill Mr. Kirk. He was at the University as a decoy just like others. The shooter made the shot inside the University or nearby, but wasn't him that give the shot. This is why no rifle after he left and jump from the rooftop of University.

Question for Grok: Was the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk recovered?

Searched for ""Charlie Kirk" (shot OR killed OR bullet OR gunshot) (recovered OR autopsy OR ballistics)"

Answer:

No, the bullet that killed Charlie Kirk was not recovered. Based on the latest reports from the investigation into his assassination on September 10, 2025, at Utah Valley University, authorities have confirmed the recovery of the murder weapon—a high-powered, bolt-action rifle (likely a .30-06 Mauser)—found wrapped in a towel in a nearby wooded area, along with a spent cartridge still chambered in the rifle and three unfired rounds in the magazine. These items, including the cartridge casings, were sent to a federal lab at Quantico for ballistic analysis, where inscriptions like "Hey fascist, catch!" and references to anti-fascist themes were noted.However, no sources indicate that the actual projectile (the bullet itself) was located at the scene or during the autopsy. The single shot struck Kirk in the neck, and given the distance (fired from a rooftop) and the rifle's power, it's likely the bullet either exited the body, fragmented, or remained embedded but was not publicly confirmed as recovered—possibly due to ongoing forensic processing or investigative sensitivity. Social media discussions, including queries directed at officials like FBI Director Kash Patel, echo this gap, with users questioning the lack of ballistic linkage without the bullet. The investigation, led by the FBI and Utah authorities, continues to analyze the evidence, but as of September 13, 2025, the bullet's recovery has not been announced.

I know that most don’t want to go down this rabbit hole…it’s gut-wrenching to watch, over and over…I get it…it’s so much easier to buy into the sanctioned narrative, but my investigative gene is twitching on this non-stop. Some of us want to know the truth - Charlie would want the truth, because we know that we NEVER get it from the official story - and we know the window for finding it is closing rapidly and evidence is being scrubbed…so, although this substack is a mess, I’m putting it out there - and just documenting/archiving what my spidey sense is telling me might be relevant. 
Things I’ve found that I see as highly questionable…I will add anything of interest in the comments as I continue to dive in.

I’m trying to get John Cullen’s eyeballs on this guy - and his pals onstage…he’ll be a great source if he gets on the right “trajectory.” wish me luck…Jeff, as an attorney, are you asking litigator discovery questions yet?

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

Unless I’m missing something, I don’t think this scenario is likely. If you intend to use someone like this deranged Robinson kid as a decoy you would also have to be sure he was neutralized immediately after the murder (like the kid in Butler, PA). Otherwise, he could be found and then certainly would tell all that he knew.

I will say, though, that I do believe others were involved. Someone was helping him.

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WP William's avatar

He did NOT randomly walk around and find himself on a rooftop--any more than the Crooks kid did. It was pre-planned. So did he do his own recon all alone, or did he have a couple friends or DeepState/Blackrock shooting range-video game pals assisting? Plus let's face it Security for ALL these guys is infiltrated--just look at Trump's ambush by pro-Hamas protestors earlier this week...he, Vance, and other cabinet members are lucky there wasn't some mass casualty event pulled off. Commie parasitic worms and their flesh-eating larvae are in everything.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Debbie, Patti and WP William…. Yes… he got help, in fact our own US history of assassinations in our country in broad daylight where optics cause the reactions intended… think CIA tricks of their trade, MKULTRA psyops… they monitor everything, they find these easily manipulated kids, trans confused and angry kids and what false images of being part of history and for a cause etc etc do they feed these kids? What if “they” convinced Robinson to follow the senario set up? Convinced him he’d be a hero! Told him to shoot when he saw for example the “signal” like the white hat guy to the right of Charlie? He shoots one shot, no chance he hit anything, but thinks he did, is now being convinced by authorities and the FBI that he in fact succeeded in the plan… we all know only a professional sniper could have made that instant kill shot. Someone who knew Charlie was gravely concerned of late, felt something was very dark around him, and shared those cautions with Vince Gill right before his “ prove me wrong Utah” event. This someone or kill team knew Charlie wor a protective vest… they knew a carotid artery shot is an instant no saving him kill. It’s a tangible doable theory. They didn’t need to kill Robinson like the many lone gunman patsies in our dark assassination history… they got him to believe his own indoctrinated social media posts and manipulated the kid to carry it out. Just think about it… so much just does not add up 🤷🏼‍♀️

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daverkb's avatar

It is a VERY, VERY dark world. And we should never assume 'we know' what is going or what has just gone down. And I'll give you all an example:

What are the chances of seven AfD opposition party candidates in Germany all dying within two weeks of each other and just ahead of the election?

Is this murder at the drop of a hat? Or just a sad unhappy coincidence?

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rjt's avatar

Eugyppius provided a nice commentary on this. Worth reading to help with the statistics.https://www.eugyppius.com/p/six-afd-candidates-have-died-ahead

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks. I am glad people are noticing.

Looking at EU interference in elections as in Georgia and elsewhere, interfering in the internal affairs of member states, I am wondering what 'they' will not stop at.

I often wondered what kind of outfit would allow the United States to blow up North Stream, deprive an economy once powerhouse economy like Germany of cheap gas to power industry and homes, and collapse the German and other economies ... and the EU 'leaders' act like this is no big deal?

The world in the West has lost its mind.

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WP William's avatar

Putin'ing the opposition party--this is what Democracy looks like, a ruthless, brutal struggle for control and agitating the masses to clamor for political-killings to go mainstream

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Patti's avatar

I don’t think an expert sniper only could have made that shot as I just took a precision rifle class and after never shooting a rifle made great shots 1000 yards out. I do think there are holes and questioning and demanding answers is what we all need to continue to demand. Do I think our government is culled enough in 9 months to deliver- NO. Trump is not that good. His team may be trying and I’m trying to stay hopeful but shit isn’t adding up.

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Lori's avatar

Good for you Patti taking a rifle class. Lock and Load for sure.

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Patti's avatar

Lori it was a blast. Didn’t like sleeping in a tent. I prefer a lodge but the instructor was AMAZING! The experience was one of the bests. I highly recommend

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Padrig's avatar

I have never taken such a class. Did you shoot from an elevated position?

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Patti's avatar

We shot from all sorts of different positions. Using different equipment. High angle. The class touched on a lot in a short amount of time

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daverkb's avatar

I am not sure on the one shot, but I trend toward your view.

But we do know that people can be made to believe that they have done things which that have not done, and say so with firm conviction. This too open up more possibility ... like there was more than one person involved, and which greatly complicates matters.

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WP William's avatar

yes, the missing bullet may soon be produced for us but will it be recovered from some wall or tree? This was a planned set-up kill.

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daverkb's avatar

Like the bullet found on JFK's stretcher?

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WP William's avatar

"presto!"

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Full Name's avatar

Sounds as if you are postulating at least 2 shots. Has anyone offered a video with 2 shots being heard?

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J Boss's avatar

Well, maybe that's plausible for the moment. But that's at least two shots, and nobody heard two. Impossible to synchronize. Maybe he shot a blank... But the fired casing should reveal that. Seems unlikely.

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J Boss's avatar

If the damn FBI would use the same f-ing tools used to identify people that were in DC J6 to track this kids movements for a week prior, all these questions would have clear answers or far narrower numbers or answers.

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Lori's avatar

and now the dems are demanding a hearing on kash's ability to run the fbi.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It seems like they’re afraid of him and want to get him out.

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JBell's avatar

I agree with you 💯. They gave the timeline, before they apprehended the "shooter". they said the video of him started as he entered the building and jumped down as being 8 minutes!

He did not attend UVU ....... not even for a semester. He was not familiar with the university of the neighborhood, but somehow managed to park in a neighborhood, walk to the campus with a backpack and rifle, enter a building that he was not familiar with, knowing how to access the roof, get in position, fire the shot, run across said roof, jump down, with rifle ..... ALL of this taking about 8 minutes!!!!! NO WAY! Then he would walk back through the neighborhood, with rifle down his pants leg, ditch the rifle in the woods, get in his car and drive the 3.5 hours home

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WP William's avatar

we should demand all the video of him doing recon on campus

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Robin Greer's avatar

Could he have had an earpiece with someone directing his steps?

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Starsky's avatar

I had heard he was seen on the roof just the day prior and confronted by a professor. No proof, just what I saw posted on the socials.

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Patti's avatar

There are too many things not adding up. I agree. I want to believe but it’s so clean. Decoy probably?!? More involved for sure

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Beth's avatar

Anyone else notice the three people around charlie? There was a shorter guy that appeared to have a gun under his arm and he was pointing right at charlie. It was another man that was doing baseball signals with his baseball hat. And then a large man directly behind Charlie that was giving hand signals as well.

I want to know who these people are, and why they haven't been arrested, if they haven't. And also a ballistics examination of what looked to be a gun under that guy's arm.

I'm with a lot of you here, everything does not add up. And it rarely does in a situation like this.

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Starsky's avatar

Charlie had a team of security. I saw one — a fat guy in a blue T-shirt with both hands clasped over a pistol on his belly—immediately after they had cleared the tent and telling people standing around to clear out.

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Beth's avatar

Thank you. That's why I came back here to say that. I didn't want to leave that comment hanging. I did some sleuthing and that was his security team. Those three guys right behind it. I guess I should probably have known that. He's not going to go out completely and guarded. Thanks

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Elaine Russky's avatar

The backstage people have all kinds of signals for things like "Turn the mike up," "Bring more bottled water," "Cut this guy off; he's rambling," etc. They were Charlie's friends. Anyway, a sharpshooter looks through a scope and wouldn't have seen any of these movements.

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I saw a picture of army/ Military hand signals. Both of the two signals were in the chart, so military, not something else. Of course his security could have been prior military and used them for Charlie’s protection but nothing is adding up, like the ring on his finger moving , one picture on his ring finger in another frame on his pinkie. Hard to explain

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I saw a video of him playing with the ring at another event. It was one of those that's c-shaped so it didn't enclose his finger. He was ablt to move it around and did so. Call it a "fidget ring." If those guys weren't in the military they likely didn't know military signals. These were Charlie's friends, and they were standing in the line of fire.

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Cheryl Schroeder's avatar

I hope you are right 🙏🏼

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Lori's avatar

i want to know too.

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Kathy's avatar

I think there may have been CIA type brainwashing techniques used on the kid. Read up on the

Milgram experiment if you haven’t already. Ordinary people can easily be talked into doing horrible things. Or perhaps he was just immersed in the cesspool of extreme left-wing ideology. When they show the videos of him walking through the neighborhood appearing to limp, it was probable that the gun or part of it was in his pants leg, and it was awkward to walk without it, slipping down or jabbing him in the ankle . When he jumped down, he was definitely carrying the backpack, which could have been carrying the disassembled rifle. As far as the fact that when they found the rifle it was assembled, perhaps he did that because he thought he might need to use it in some kind of a shootout situation. I will try to remain open to other theories.

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Susan G's avatar

No gun expect here, but my husband says this rifle can't be disassembled. Help welcome from knowledgeable folks.

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CMCM's avatar

In that video where he ran across the roof and then jumped down to the ground, he had his backpack but I sure didn't see any rifle.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

The backpack was long, the t-shirt was long, and he could have hidden the rifle on his back, under his clothes and backpack.

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daverkb's avatar

Thanks for having the guts to voice what I know is apt to be an unpopular take on the event in question. I also have an uneasy feeling as to things which I am noticing. It's almost like a movie I've seen many too times before.

I zeroed in on your words 'highly questionable' in your text. And I have watched and read a few things regarding Charlie Kirk murder and then caught myself say, "My! This just doesn't look right."

What you said always needs to be said because quick and facile buy-in in this day of wildly insane doing and with the improbable being routine, this is the royal road to ruin and death. Self-annihilation is too often achieve by too my belief in the wrong things.

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Johnny-O's avatar

The whole thing doesn't feel right - similar to the covid psyop.

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Lori's avatar

yes many things suspicious about this. guy looked to effeminate to me to even be able to carry a heavy rifle. i hope they study bullet trajectory on this one. i suspect deep state, mossad, globalists, dems as some of the potentials in this. either way, the guy being accused needs a mental asylum if proved he did not kill CK and he can never be let out bc he is nuts.

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helene's avatar

the Gov of Utah was on Fox News Friday and said they recovered the bullet

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Kalinda's avatar

Just 2 things.

Take Grok with a grain of salt. Gets things wrong near as often as right. In my experience of actually tracking down Grok's 'information'.

The shooter had the rifle on descent of the roof. Watch the video closely and you will see it being dragged over the roof on the way down and being carried off. It is in a dark bag the shooter is carrying.

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Susan G's avatar

You have outlined the questions I too have. I hate the idea of yet another conspiracy, but this whole thing just doesn't hang together. Related but disturbing - are the guys selected to "clean up" the FBI engaged in a cover-up?

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Gail Dupre's avatar

I immediately thought something was not quite right when all this came out. JFK shooting “story” came to mind. Ir has this kid been in sharp shooter training for years?! Not buying it.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I heard today that they did recover the bullet. There was a statement from Utah Governor Spencer Cox about what was on all of the shells. https://x.com/RobertAJGagnon1/status/1966532288633544894

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Charlotte's avatar

The people who shot up the schools are the same people who shot Charlie Kirk. They shot Charlie Kirk because he was confronting their echo chamber head on.

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Melissa S's avatar

I assume its a main talking point from the MSM. Heard it this week from my sweet but MSM Kool-aid drinking democrat friend. She had never heard of Kirk, and initially she thought Kirk's murder was a tragedy. But she quickly moved on, having been informed by her television news channels that to pay attention to Kirk's death was inappropriate, when others were murdered in our country this very same week due to "gun violence". So, unless you feel totally and equally the same outrage and concern for other victims of gun violence, you really shouldn't mourn for Kirk's family, friends, and supporters. His death is just one out of thousands.....

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WP William's avatar

yes, it's always NARRATIVE CONTROL = Thought Control for these freaks who have zero morals or compunction anyway--it's all just a game to them as they relish darkness chaos and every death.

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Lori's avatar

how do you have a "friend" like that. bad news.

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Melissa S's avatar

She is our neighbor. We disagree on just about everything politically. She has a "hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil" perspective regarding the democrat party. But, we just love her and try to speak the truth when we can. It is hard when the "truth" she "knows" is so diametrically opposite from reality. She is deeply plugged into the blue pill via her tv. She believes what she is told. It is a lot like talking to someone in a cult. Close to hopeless having a political discussion with her when you can't even establish what actual facts are. But otherwise she is a very kind and caring person. She loves us and would do anything for us if we needed her help. We reciprocate.

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CMCM's avatar

My sister in law is like this. She is so pathetically ignorant of most facts about anything, and parrots whatever is said on her favorite channel, CNN.

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Sherry Fariss's avatar

Good for you, Melissa! It’s all too easy to stay in our comfort zones and refuse to be light to those around us. How can we ever heal the divide if we don’t have relationships with those like this neighbor/friend with whom we disagree?

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Lori's avatar

lol, there is no healing the divide, it is too far gone. good luck with that though.

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Sherry Fariss's avatar

With God ALL things are possible. Pray for our enemies. Who would have thought that Saul would become Jesus’ fiercest apologist Paul?

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

I would not want to be near her at all. She believes their evil, supports it and endorses it. That is not the definition of a very kind and caring person. Her

"love"is poison.

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Starsky's avatar

She is the person who will report you to the authorities and send you to the concentration camps. Avoid those people at all costs.

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Lori's avatar

Indeed!

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WP William's avatar

Nard, you've seen the Evergreen High School shooting FIASCO here in ColoRAINBOW (same day as the Kirk massacre; OUR State's Leftist Dems decry gun accessibility, and NEVER Own their contributions to school violence; they can fund Abortions and Genital Mutilations but can't fund SROs for Schools--parents need to pull kids out of these kill-zones. Was the school shooter a he/she like the sheriff spokeslady first mentioned?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

It’s atrocious…they slashed the school security budget and then decry school shootings. They fund alphabet soup policies but do nothing to protect our kids. Are dads stepping up and volunteering their time to guard our schools? Everyone screams. No one acts.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Your response to them is well said. I hope your words are not wasted on them, they seem to believe this murder was justified.

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Patti's avatar

Well said thank you! I have responded with both are tragedies and can be true at the same time. I have to say tho after so many educators have shown true colors school shootings are no longer a mystery to me. We send children. A vulnerable population into schools for 6-8 hrs a day. Marinating in the hate. Teachers confuse them. Clearly. I am no longer going to be surprised at school shootings. Not one bit of this is what students are around all day. Disgusting and vile.

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Lori's avatar

time to homeschool like never before. they want to kill our children physically with jabs, mentally with brainwashing and spiritually ignoring and defaming God.

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Beth's avatar

@Nard, that was poetry. Thank you for sharing that. And you're right everything you said was right. I appreciate you sharing it here.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Can't beat the hypocrisy here. The left hates free speech, we adorn and protect it....hey, you should get fired for saying something rude and distasteful!

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Yea b/c most big corps and professions that require licenses have ethics / morality codes of conduct that also cover private behavior outside the workplace or profession e.g. Obama was able to purge the officer corps b/c so many were having affairs and that is conduct that get's you subject to court martial etc for national security reasons... same thing with medical professionals/teachers spewing hateful rhetoric against certain groups of people they don't like - I don't want them anywhere near me and my family!

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SarahKI's avatar

Well said!!

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Dane C's avatar

Well said, thanks!!

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LaNell Tew's avatar

Nard, this is so eloquent. I wish I had been able to articulate a response as well as you have done.

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Jeff S's avatar

It makes me feel better, too.

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Love this response. I have two family members that I want to respond to with your insight & response. Yes, exactly it’s what the death represents! It’s a civic alarm!

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Peace's avatar

Nard - your reply is spot on and helped me to frame my thoughts on this issue.

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Debi Lutman's avatar

Truth. I pray they see the logic. He was trying to enlist by educating the integrity & value of all life to one together WITHOUT violence. The old agree to disagree, not draw guns, even though that would’ve been between two CONSENTING people normally.

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Deep Sea's avatar

Well said Nard. Very well said.

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roni dewitt's avatar

It has been such a grim and sad week.The only bright spot in my day has been your pithy, well, written and oftentimes humorous, deeply intelligent articles. Thank you for being you.You are such a blessing.

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Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

We can’t let the news get us down. We need to keep our spirits up as much as possible. If we don’t, they win.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I don't read news at all - I read C & C and the sometimes 3 blogs I received from americanlibertynews.com I especially appreciate the essays their main contributor, "Amuse" creates. I would share them on C & C if anyone is interested and perhaps will follow through and subscribe to this very well-researched op-ed platform. There are 3 or 4 main authors who submit their 'stuff' on the platform every day of the week.

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

Your link didn’t work. Is this it? https://americanliberty.news/

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Yes...thank you for correcting my hyperlink, Connie - (smile)

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Jamison's avatar

I follow Amuse on Twitter.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I did some research on this writer and his REAL name is "Alex Muse" and he has a Linkedin.com page. Very interesting career path from what I read on Linked In. None of it had to do with writing...so he probably just realized he was neglecting his "gift" and is using it in a 'par excellente' way on americanlibertynews.com

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schneile's avatar

I can't find his LinkedIn. Got a direct URL for it?

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Here you go, schneile: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amuse/

He has a VERY checkered career path and has written several entrepreneurial books (listed at the end of his Linkedin profile!

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PEL's avatar

Me too!!

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schneile's avatar

I follow Amuse on X. Must be the same person.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I'm 99% certain it is, schneile!

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Cheryl Sutcliffe's avatar

"Is it finally time to name antifa —along with its allies and funders— as domestic terrorists, too? Or is it past time. You tell me."

Way past time.

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Jeff S's avatar

Yup. Go after them. Full bore.

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Peter's avatar

Why have we hesitated to do this? Who’s stopping it?

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Starsky's avatar

They will claim “free speech” infringement. We used to run communists out of the country. The last 30 years, we have coddled them, patted them on the heads as if they are merely dim-witted retards, and looked the other way. Time for change.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Good article!

Explains much... including the betrayals of Kash and Blondi... and Trump.

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Cheryl Sutcliffe's avatar

That's a question for Jeff Childers

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Woke wimps... and "turn the other cheek" religious. Communists. Zionists... radical islamists...

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CMCM's avatar

Soros too. He is evil personified.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

True... but add in the radical left media outlets... propaganda outlets... promoting political violence and sedition...

Ban toxic groups like AIPAC, ADL, SPLC, NAACP, SPLC, CAIR and 90%+ of all lobbyists.

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Therefore, do not throw away your confidence, which has a great reward. For you have need of endurance, so that when you have done the will of God, you may receive what was promised.

For yet in a very little while, He who is coming will come, and will not delay. But My righteous one shall live by faith; And if he shrinks back, My soul has no pleasure in him. But we are not of those who shrink back to destruction, but of those who have faith to the preserving of the soul.

— Hebrews 10:35-39 NAS95

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Alex's avatar

Say what you want online, but don’t be surprised when your boss thinks celebrating violence makes you unfit to represent their company.

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Lori's avatar

I suggest companies start vetting prospective employees better.

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Alex's avatar

That’s extremely difficult especially when half of the HR teams across this country are filled with far left radicals.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

fire them one at a time like you pick off ticks before you get diseased.

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Peter's avatar

Go online and look up the bios of who’s on the HR staff at any major company. And where they were ‘educated’.

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

Then check out their social media feeds.

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Steenroid's avatar

How many posting are actually in HR department?

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William Dixon's avatar

By definition HR employees are far left radicals

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Clara's avatar

Unfortunately the organizations and companies have bought into the liberal DEI agenda. This is what they promote at your local school, library and medical center.

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Lori's avatar

exactly and that is why we need to boycott office depot as they are employing the woke. see above if you did not hear what they did.

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Jeff S's avatar

And start firing them better and faster.

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Mike's avatar

I think it's time to adopt the lefts technique of "doxing". All those faces and tick-tock vids rejoicing the death of Charlie should simply be left to the power of the internet to identify them. where they live, work, school. It's time to isolate and insulate these sick individuals from their protected status.

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Kelly's avatar

There is a site coming soon called Charlie's murderer (or murderers, not sure which atm) . com. They are planning on posting every person's names who have publicly announced their celebration of Charlie's death.

As a side note, one woman on X has made over 250 calls (last I knew) to employers of the evil beings. She also keeps track of which one's get fired. Karma is coming 'round for them.

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PEL's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Libs of tik tok has found many of these horrible posts and videos. She has shared on X often with links to their employer site on X.

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Horizons's avatar

Sadly, I think those fired will learn NOTHING. The only result will be to take their hatred up another notch.

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Kelly's avatar

I have to agree, mostly. I think some will wake up from it, eventually. We often have to be reduced to nothing before we will look to Jesus to raise us back up to our feet.

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BBS's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Based on everything that has gone on for years, I will be surprised if this site is not shut down. It seems people are free to spew hate and violence, but calling out those pieces of sh*t who foment hatred and violence is enough to get you cancelled for life.

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Kelly's avatar

The site is asking for email addresses so if that happens, they can keep in touch.

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Johnny-O's avatar

And now the right is acting like the insane left.

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Kelly's avatar

How so? Because we are calling them out?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And they are being circulated on X.

It is sick and disgusting to watch health care workers and educators show glee in the assassination of Charlie Kirk. Can you imagine these people around your children, or treating you in a healthcare setting?

I need a shower after watching how sick they are.

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WP William's avatar

the mercy-killer and pedo-porn library communities? surprising. They'd ALL be screaming in outrage if their Marxist-Muslim-Messiah Zohran Mamdani were shot down like a swine at slaughter by some political-religious-race-motivated skinhead, militia nut paired up with pro-hitmen and major security "lapse". They wouldn't be including his Marxist-Left-"mainstream" ideology and rhetoric as being a contributing factor.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And people thought we were nuts when we said the medical community was trying to kill us during covid.

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Lori's avatar

now you know why docs and hospitals have been given carte blanche to kill us.

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Lori's avatar

FROM FACEBOOK, KNOW WHO YOUR VET IS. SEE THIS POST ON FB. THE CLINIC HAS TAKEN DOWN HIS PICTURE FROM THE CLINIC WEBSITE.

Andy Ngo

@MrAndyNgo

Christopher Rispoli, the woke owner of Gentle Care Animal Hospital in Edmond, Okla., suggested on social media that people should be inspired to kill more people after Charlie Kirk. "He is only the first!"

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schneile's avatar

Agree. What many employees are failing to understand is that they are as much an integral part of a company's brand as its products, logo, color palette, and corporate messaging. Props to the many employers who refuse to be associated with such deep, public expressions of hatred for someone with whom they disagree.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Good morning, C&C. Praying for all of you, our nation, and especially, Charlie Kirk's family. Absent the body, Charlie is reveling in the glory of being with his Saviour, Jesus Christ. We who are left behind must continue to speak truth, in love, but firmly without backing down. Live not but lies, but by the truth.

May G-d hold, comfort, and bless those who are grieving

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

Let’s remember to pray for the kid’s parents, too. How awful they must feel. The dad was in law enforcement and did the right, painful thing—tho most likely to save his son’s life. By all accounts they thought their son had every opportunity to be successful. What a nightmare they’ve been plunged into, too.

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Jamison's avatar

I agree. And, for Charlie’s parents, as well.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

I think his conduct would offend their Mormon ethics. Somehow it didn't affect the assassin's, though.

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Jeff Johnson's avatar

I'm curious as to why you don't spell out the word God?

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Hi Jeff, I don't spell out the name of G-d for this reason: The Bible tells us to not take the Name of the Lord in vain. Our culture has so profaned the name of G-d, that even ordinary reverence for His Name seems... inadequate. His is the Name above all Names and must be treated with complete reverence.

I don't know if this answers your question sufficiently, and will probably provoke some who view it differently. This is just where I am in my faith journey.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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Jeff Johnson's avatar

Thanks for the thoughtful reply, and I have no problem with your personal reasons at all. God bless you for doing what you know to be right for you.

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Thank you, Jeff, for your kind reply.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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CStone's avatar

‘God’ is a title, as is ‘Lord’ . But He knows Who we are referring to.

His real Name is revealed in Hebrew Scriptures, but His people quit using His Name out of an abundance of caution.

I now see that the Most High allowed this, as the punishment would have been death. So He allowed Himself to be referred to by ‘titles’ such as God and Lord, Adonai, Hashem (which means ‘the Name), Jehovah. His kindness and love for us drive His Merciful ‘allowances’ because we truly are weak.

But HE IS STRONG.

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Jamison's avatar

You answered the question I just asked. Thank you!

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Orthodox Jews don't spell out God and use G-d in print. Others may do this as well.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Perhaps because they do not worship God... they worship Satan.

Read their vile and despicable Talmud. Then ask any jew if they renounce it.

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TB's avatar

The Talmud is a collection of opinions of multiple rabbis over time. Some of them had horrible opinions, others contradicted them.

So, are all Christians "vile and despicable" too because Martin Luther once said some nasty things?

Or should people be judged on their individual beliefs instead of labelled based on the categories they fall in?

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Are YOU jewish?

So... the Talmud is not that bad? Ask any jew if they reject it.

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Jamison's avatar

Is it true that the early Jews in the OT would not say God’s name aloud for that very reason?

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FYI: "God" and "Lord" are pagan titles and are not appropriate to be used when referring to the creator of all things. There are many references in the Old Testament about how our creator values His name and that we are to honor it and NOT falsify it (see the 3rd commandment). His name is spelled YHWH, pronounced YAHVEH in all languages. He is the one Yashuah prays to and Yashuah said that we should, also.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Bernie Sanders is surprisingly reasonable in the statement he posted. Nevertheless, he spoils the moment by trying (and failing) to equivocate, the classic leftist deflection of both-sidesism. Too late, Bernie. Your ideology is a limb of the tree that's bearing this ghastly fruit.

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

Felt the same. It was a band aide. Not anywhere near enough.

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John Galt?'s avatar

Still, it seemed sincere. It should be enough for the Transtifa leftists to blackball him

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Politico Phil's avatar

I followed Bernie closely during the 2016 election. He is a SMOOTH talking professional politician with a sincerity prolly only matched by satan. In reality, Bernie is an old-school Castro style Marxist who is worth untold $millions from a lifetime of "public service". And no, his wealth did not come from his Congressional salary. A more cunning snake you could never hope to meet.

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laura-ann Knox's avatar

I went on a date way back in like 2016 with this guy who pontificated for about half an hour about Bernie Sanders and how awesome he is. I couldn't get out fast enough

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

Yes, I agree that it was sincere. Maybe Bernie will wake up and retire. He can’t very well say he’s been wrong all this time.

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helene's avatar

imo Bernie ran in 2016 under orders from HRC to get the youth vote and then have him transfer it all to her...instead a movement built up around him, mainly to get rid of college loans and similar stuff...I watched the California primary vote live to late in the night, Bernie was picking off loads of counties outside of the Bay Area, LA, Santa Barbara...if it had continued, he might have won--but around 3am Pacific Time the vote was stopped and Kamala Harris was in charge--they then declared Hillary the winner. When Bernie failed to complain, that was when I knew the whole thing was rigged. At the Dem Convention he had bruising on one side of his face...then the Dem Exit began.

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PEL's avatar

Harold on The Five does this too. It’s infuriating!!

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CMCM's avatar

Harold as well as Jessica were hired to be the liberal/Democrat voice on all the shows. One time I heard Jessica comment on how hard her job is, presumably because she is expected to defend the Democrats' positions. Harold often seems to side with the views of the conservative hosts, but he seems to hold out hope that a reasonable Democrat party can be restored at some point. I honestly don't know how anyone can remain at all "loyal" to the Democrat party now. It is so infested with rot that I doubt it can be saved, it is truly beyond fixing.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Harold would make a fine candidate... far better than most of the lice the Dems are considering. thank goodness they do not embrace him. He could win.

Tarlov is just a vile lying bitch.

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Those harpies on "The View" weren't even irrational. Joyless did point out all the Democrats who had been assassinated, though.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I despise the concept of ‘moral equivalency’. And the country music song with the line, “there are no good guys, there are no bad guys, there’s just you and me and we just disagree.” Whoever espouses that is the guilty party, IMHO.

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WP William's avatar

Cato Institute (Pothead Libertarianism) writer Alex Norestah critiques statistical "political Violence" in the USA 1975-2025. Read it and see if it sits right with you. Jihadis and Rightwingers KILL far more than Leftists but even so this is a RARE occurrence. Dissect the crime stats and definitions, contemplate the periods of race-rioting and violent political protests from the past 30 years and the organizers and supporters/funders of it all. This type of reassurance from the Moderate-Libertarian Intellectual Complex is deeply flawed and meant to distract and disarm Legal and Lawful response to a rising Violent Leftism that openly seeks more open attacks to oppose "Trump" 2.0 and those guilty of putting him back into power.

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Kitkat's avatar

Godspeak Calvary chapel in Newbury Park CA will be holding 3 services honoring Charlie Kirk this Sunday. 9am,11am and 1pm PST.

Services will be held by Pastor Rob McCoy (Charlie referred to him as “his pastor”). They livestream on YouTube. Please feel free to watch. God bless you Charlie. ✝️

https://youtube.com/@godspeakcalvarychapel?si=sJu5Sszb4xVS4Qc-

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Lori's avatar

Regarding Erika Kirk:

This is what class under extreme stress and loss looks like. This is what a beautiful mother and wife speaks like. This is a woman filled with the Holy Spirit who speaks of Love. This is a fierce warrior who promises to preserve what is her husband's legacy. The other side cannot touch this; cannot even come close. They are not capable of this kind of humanness nor humaneness. They are morally and Spiritually bankrupt. Bend a knee and thank God you are not one of them.

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Jeff Johnson's avatar

You nailed it here, Lori. I agree with every single point you make here. It is simply truth.

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RunningLogic's avatar

👏👏👏

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Jamison's avatar

Well-said.

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schneile's avatar

I just knew she would have the courage and strength to get through her statement. As has been said here many times, she is covered in the armor of God and now, additionally protected by her angel husband. He is going to stand by her side and guide her through this tough road ahead, and Jesus Christ will be shielding them both from the slings and arrows as they walk down this new path, together in spirit.

I truly felt the Lord speaking to us all through her words last night.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

Agreed. What grief her and his parents have to bear. I really believed God would raise him from the dead like Lazarus as a testament to His power to turn people from evil and to Him. I am an idiot:{

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MBJ's avatar

I was hoping. I heard that he healed- what’s the guys name, Forrest something? The guy that did the viral “your way’s better” dance video- from a broken back. Was that fake? I don’t understand why God would heal a rock star but not a spiritual warrior as effective as Charlie Kirk.

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Lori's avatar

This is such a sadness and many, if not all of us are truly feeling the heaviness of what happened. I am not familiar with the video or person you speak of but am glad to hear he got better. Stay safe and healthy MBJ.

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ICI Grief (The Rebel's Hike)'s avatar

And yet we are also sinners.

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Lori's avatar

Yes, we know that.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Gonna be a lot of progressives in the unemployment lines.

Woke Pathology is real.

https://torrancestephensphd.substack.com/p/woke-pathology-and-the-metastasis

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Chixbythesea's avatar

TDS is a mind virus. Approx 780 firings so far.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

I suspect when things simmer down they will slip him in again thru the back door if they are woke establishments.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I am contacting the companies and schools asking them why they are supporting workplace violence by allowing unhinged employees to continue to work there.

Anyone who expressed glee at the assassination of Charlie Kirk is a sick and mentally ill person and should not be allowed in the workplace.

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Lori's avatar
Sep 13Edited

I sent 3 emails to Office Depot to 3 different addresses to tell them of my disgust with their wokeism.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

At least the fired the guy (or girl).

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Lori's avatar

were we there to see it? they will slip him thru the back door again once things settle down or transfer him to another store. his name is beryl but looks like a morbidly obese woman with breasts. not sure what pronoun to use.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup, if they celebrate violence like this then why wouldn’t they also be ok with perpetrating it??

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Just look at the still powerful and influential POS porker Randi Weingarten.

A large percentage of teachers currently are the ENEMY due to lice like Randi.

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Chixbythesea's avatar

They’ll never leave in such a case. You won’t hear of firings in the tech industry for instance. Places like Google or FB. They’ll simply go dark to the outside world in terms of their opinions.

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Lori's avatar

Then let them live in dark where they belong. We know where they are, what they believe and will continue to watch them closely. Silicon Valley is worse then NYC. It is rumored Sam Altman had one of his employees murdered bc that employee was going to the press that altman had infringed on copyright laws. Just saw altman on Tucker interview and when Tucker brought that up, altman was squirming, his eyes changed color, he had a maniacal subtle smile on his face and got very defensive. He is effeminate and so he put on that Oh you are accusing me personna but you could see the malevolence in his body language and facial features.

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CMCM's avatar

Sam Altman has a weird look to him, almost inhuman. Same with Zuckerberg. Dead eyes.

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Lori's avatar

they really do freak me out.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Add Theil... Bezos... Ackerman, Netanyahu, Gates, both Adelson's, Rabbi Shmuley (RFK's bestie)... Givr... Raskin... Schiff... Goldman...

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Mike's avatar

Simply "dox" them and leave the rest to the internet for maximum exposure.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Damnnnnn

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Citizen Satirist (CS)'s avatar

https://www.charliesmurderers.com/ "This website will soon be converted into a searchable database of over 30,000 submissions, filterable by general location and job industry. This is a permanent and continuously-updating archive of Radical activists calling for violence."

For others on Twitter contacting employees (if you choose not too), see my posts: https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/retributionsteria-best-welcome-to-the-charlie-kirk-fafo-club-memes / https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/retributionsteria-best-charlie-kirk-fafo-memes

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Lori's avatar

And us paying for them.

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Torrance Stephens's avatar

Sadly.

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shayne's avatar

They've earned it.

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Eric - The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Even the loosest affliation to ANTIFA is a destination to abject misery on every conceivable level. Subhumans, at best. The slam dunk scourge of modern times. I'm not the guy to organize it, or really have any idea how to start, but isn't it high time the authorities, the military, F-Troop, Frank Drebin, SOMEBODY to go on the offensive and systematically root these demons out?

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's interesting you mention the government should be going after these 'loosely organized" antifa groups. Dr. Robert Malone, in his Substack for today, is affirming that Charlie Kirk's assassin was a devotee of "Trantifa" - didn't ever know about that 'morph' group of trans devotees, did you, Eric? Here's Dr. Malone's Substack from today if you're interested in his opinions about the Kirk assassination and the assassin's affiliation: https://www.malone.news/p/the-enemy-within-tyler-robinson-is?img=https%3A%2F%2Fsubstack-post-media.s3.amazonaws.com%2Fpublic%2Fimages%2F8ef15d62-64b6-46e9-93eb-d12ea357574e_1992x1556.png&open=false

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Johnny-O's avatar

Honestly I trust Malone about as far as one could throw him....

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

One of my favorite Substack authors - "Amuse" on American Liberty News, also shared that "Trantifa" and/or "Transtifa" is a very convoluted, subversive force that spouts violent actions against anyone who is prominent and vocally opposed to transexuals and other forms of deviate behavior/mindsets. I did some research and Andy Ngo was on Fox & Friends about 4 years ago sharing what he has learned about "Trantifa"--it's growing, sad to say!!

I'm curious, Johnny---why do you have such a negative opinion of Dr. Malone?

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Johnny-O's avatar

He's engaged in character assassinations against people who have called out mistakes of his. Sasha Latypova covered this pretty extensively when it happened between the two of them, which should be on her substack if you want to take the time to find it.

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We were blessed by Charlie's insights. And we continue to be blessed by his wife's courage and strength. It's still hard to believe he's gone.

To see people celebrate the murder of another person is to witness evil and terrorism up close. Why? Because you know that if you say anything they disagree with, then they will feel celebratory about killing you. Terrorism is designed to silence the witnesses through fear.

Charlie had the courage of the Lord in him. May we all be filled with that courage.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The terrorism we are now facing is not coming from a distant country.

It is other Americans who want us dead.

And, they are in healthcare and education.

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Cafe Comments by Lauri Harris's avatar

Sad. And true.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

Yeppers KJ we are being attacked from within our own country.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yes, but most of the poisonous lice have funding and support from overseas.

Israel... the Rothschild Organization, the Soros swine, possibly China...

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Shelly S's avatar

Always hopeful, Jeff, because my hope is in Christ. We know Who ultimately wins.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It has become a workplace safety issue with all those idiots celebrating the violent death of Charlie Kirk and posting it on social media.

I am amazed at how many in education and health care are so unhinged that they cheered the assassination.

I am doing my part by reposting on X and contacting the schools and companies, while asking them why they support workplace violence by keeping these employees around.

Just amazed at the vitriol they have towards us. I would not feel safe in a workplace if one of these nutjobs worked next to me.

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RunningLogic's avatar

How much do you want to bet they have “be kind” signs in their yards? 🙄

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

And a "coexist" bumper sticker.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

You beat me, Kathleen, to that comment. Ugg.. those ‘coexist’ stickers!

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RunningLogic's avatar

“Coexist as long as you agree with me” 🙄

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Abiding Dude's avatar

"Be Kind"

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Carol M.'s avatar

And “co-exist” bumper stickers 😢

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

And a “hate has no home here” sign. 😡

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LaNell Tew's avatar

I already have great mistrust of health care. Now I'm seeing how many of these people not only wished me dead during covid, they wish me dead for just disagreeing with them.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup I feel the same!

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Patti's avatar

I am right there with you Kathleen. I have been messaging schools and hospitals. Educators and healthcare I’m disgusted. They are with a vulnerable population and to support such hate and spew such hate is incomprehensible

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Horizons's avatar

I have a flight reservation for January. I am not reassured by these airline pilots posting their CK-is-deservedly-dead celebrations.

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MM's avatar

Respectfully, Robinson is a fall guy. This was a professional hit and Robinson is this situation’s Oswald. The information the authorities released on Wednesday and the details they shared when Robinson was apprehended “33” hours later are incongruent. The private jet that took off 10 minutes after the shooting with its transponder turned off; the two signal men behind Charlie; the lack of emergency services on site, one Wednesday the only spent casing was in the rifle, on Friday the casing was on the roof. For a man that took the time to leave messages on the casings and to select a strategic vantage point, he sure chose some interesting options in terms of get away and weapons disposal. This stinks. I don’t buy what they are selling.

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David Cashion's avatar

If everything is a conspiracy, nothing is a conspiracy.

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daverkb's avatar

If everything is a conspiracy, then logically speaking ... everything is a conspiracy.

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David Cashion's avatar

If everyone is a racist no one is a racist.

Does this help you understand my statement or are you just be clever and cute ?

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MM's avatar

And? This is a dumb statement designed to shut down discourse.

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David Cashion's avatar

No.

Its my opinion of your discourse, insulting people is designed to shut down discourse.

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MM's avatar

Great, then by all means, proceed with discourse. I am open to counter evidence. But platitudes are not constructive.

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David Cashion's avatar

Belive want you want.

If everyone is a racist nobody is a racist.

Not trying to engage in your theory (whatever that may be) nor am I trying to counter your theory. My apologies if you dont understand.

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MM's avatar

Thank you for your reply. Let’s try a different approach because I have been trying to sincerely reflect on your comments. At first, I took your comment as dismissive, and it certainly can be used as such, just like calling someone an whatever-ist. Alternately, you could have meant that everything is staged, faked, and we are only ever allowed to see what “they” want us to see. Ergo, if “conspiracies” are the norm, by virtue of being the norm, they are no longer conspiracies. Am I closer to understanding you?

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

If they are not conspiracies, what are they?

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David Cashion's avatar

It was a play on the phrase you may not have heard.

If everybody is a racist nobody is a racist.

The constant drum beat of "it's a conspiracy" starts to lose its meaning, becomes trite.

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Quadriped's avatar

Interview the jet's pilot and mystery solved.

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MM's avatar

Okay… sorry, why did they turn their transponder off? I haven’t seen the interview. And what about the rest of it?

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Isn't it a violation of FAA rules to turn the transponder off?

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MM's avatar

To my knowledge and understanding, it sure is.

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

It's fairly common actually.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"Yes, it is illegal for a pilot to intentionally turn off their aircraft's transponder in most situations while in flight, as transponders are vital for air traffic control (ATC) to identify and track aircraft safely. While there are specific exceptions, such as for certain military and government operations or when directed by ATC for radar decluttering on the ground, violating the FAA's ADS-B regulations can lead to significant penalties, including certificate suspension or revocation."

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Someone said it might not have been off, but perhaps wasn't captured from the ground in a sparsely populated mountainous area.

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Brandon is not your bro's avatar

KJ i really want to know about the plane

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

'Yes, it is illegal for a pilot to intentionally turn off their aircraft's transponder in most situations while in flight, as transponders are vital for air traffic control (ATC) to identify and track aircraft safely. While there are specific exceptions, such as for certain military and government operations or when directed by ATC for radar decluttering on the ground, violating the FAA's ADS-B regulations can lead to significant penalties, including certificate suspension or revocation."

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Susan Seas's avatar

I’m sure the pilot was 100% truthful and forthcoming. As any 🌊 👁️ A minion would be 🙄

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MM's avatar

Exactly!!

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

Deep State Patsy Playbook written all over it.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

I generally stop listening when people cite the number 33 as evidence of a conspiracy.

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MM's avatar
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That is your prerogative, but it was the FBI member giving the public broadcast about Robinson’s capture that felt the need to repeatedly mention that he was taken into custody 33 hours after the shooting. Seems rather odd, no? Why would they feel the need to belay that point? We can all see that two days had passed.

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TB's avatar

Here's one obvious theory: "we caught him in under 36 hours and we want to boast about it, and why not cite the exact number of hours to make the point".

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Craig Warhurst's avatar

I don’t know what you mean about 2 signal men…please elaborate.

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MM's avatar

If you look at footage of the shooting from Charlie’s right, there are two men, one of whom is in a white shirt, making somewhat subtle hand gestures, one immediately after the other, a second before the shot is fired.

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Amy's avatar

Demons are genderless. And that's how this shooting happened. His eyes have that all too common demon look to them. He also mentioned transgenderism. We do not war against flesh and blood. This is an end time spiritual battle.

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Lydia Lozano's avatar

You know what? When I first saw his pictures, I thought it was Beto O'Rourke or his love child.

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Tom's avatar

I now see androgyny everywhere. From early 70's cartoons and "Saturday" morning shows, onward.

Witchcraft is ubiquitous. It's more than apparent.

Lord Jesus deliver us!

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Lynne Morris's avatar

I noted the eyes too.

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Lori's avatar

I disagree, they very much have gender and gender ideology.

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Amy's avatar

I didn't say anything about their theology. Only that demons have no gender. Therefore transgender ideology is demonic in nature.

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