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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Morning, All--why do I read "viruses they haven't discovered yet" as "viruses they haven't created yet"?

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Annie's avatar

If you actually step up to get the "octopus" jab then you are truly an idiot. Only God can help you.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

These people are participants in the Darwin Award Tournament.

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Annie's avatar

Agree 💯 and winning the Darwin Award is not as good as it sounds. Lol 😉

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Oh no! Winning the Darwin Award is NEVER good. Watching/reading about the participants is great entertainment.

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Morris's avatar

"They are putting the MRNA vax in your food you need to do this right now...."

Is this not a "bot"? I am seeing it all over the place! The "The Lost Superfoods" book is getting bad reviews from folks. People should report this when they see it.

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

We have…over and over and over and…. Now we just ignore it.

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Janet's avatar

Is that what it’s promoting? A book? I never opened it.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

You just broke the Intertube with that hilarious comment! Well played.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Sadly, it's more likely that their kids are the participants ... for safety. :(

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Bandit's avatar

I hope it's a race to the finish line. I'll be cheering them on.

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Janet's avatar

The finish line is the cliff they’ve been aiming at.

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Bandit's avatar

Still cheering them on over that cliff. I hope it's good and high!

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

As you know, though, more is better. So eight masks are better than one, and so, eight injections too, must be better than one. A carpet bombing of injections!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Don't give them any ideas.

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shayne's avatar

I'm so grateful I'm a later 50's kid who ran crazy in the 70's, and managed to survive. I'm suspicious of everything.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Especially if you had the original covid poison shot. I’m just guessing.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

God is ever truthful and with pure justice, served cold on a golden platter. In some ways, I have always thought those who voluntarily jumped for the jab and then berated, castigated, chastised, denigrated, called for incarceration, etc, all others might be receiving His final justice?

Let those MF'ers receive octojab.

To be clear, I am not talking about anyone WHO WAS FORCED TO HAVE A POISON PUMPED INTO THEIR BODY.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Perhaps, Annie, those that line up for this next experiment will hear the words from God "depart from Me, I never knew you". A true death sentence.

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C. Wilson's avatar

But, why should HE?!

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Tim R's avatar

They could "create" a fraudulent virus sequence this afternoon on a computer. Then create a fraudulent test for the fraudulent "virus". Then scream "Pandemic!" then release the fraudulent "vaccine". Oh wait, this already happened five years ago!

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Cousin Clem's avatar

Exactly. All creations in computers, nothing real.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

The virus only exists in a computer. No one has ever seen one even under an electron microscope where you can even see large molecules.. all viruses are completely imaginary. But they might be some sort of energy like an x-ray or a sound wave. Viruses are not physical matter.

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Then get paid billions in monopoly money

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Based Florida Man's avatar

The future is so full of wonderment with all the new viruses and genders being created every day.

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Dan (100% All in MAGA)'s avatar

re: We really don’t hate the media nearly enough.

My reply is we really don't hate the deep state "overlords" and their kickback buddies in big pharma/medicine/science* and who fund the lying, stinking, corrupt media enough to tell the lies.

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RunningLogic's avatar

🤣😆

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Because you are onto them.

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Jeff S's avatar

Wicked Witch of the West: "...Look what you've done! I'm melting! Melting! Oh, what a world! What a world! Who would have thought...you could destroy my beautiful wickedness! Ohhh! Look out! Look out! I'm going! Ohhhh - Ohhhhhhhhhh!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Hochul?? Or Whitmer? 🤔😑

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Lori's avatar

Why or? Both.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Embrace the power of AND, I guess! 😆

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Bandit's avatar

🤞Both!

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Jeff S's avatar

Mostly, what a world!

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Haldir's avatar

Must be Whitmer. I think Hochul is the one smushed by the house.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Or Maxine or Jasmine?

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

I wonder if anyone ever thought how the W W W didn't melt from rain when she lives in the Emerald City, Seattle, where it rains 9 months of the year???

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wily_coyote-genius's avatar

As Dr. David Martin has said repeatedly, "there are 68 bioweapons poised to be released in the human population". Check out is website and the talks on yoootoob, rumble, or where ever you listen to things that get scrubbed off the internet.

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Today's full moon marked the beginning of the Bilderberg meeting in Sweden. Their great reset is built on riots and new diseases. Follow the plan.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

To put things in context, Jefferson and Henegan, the two old geezers (they self report they are) from Cochrane state that only 30% of "cold and flu" disease come from known sources. There is a lot of unknown origins of disease out there.

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Mark's avatar

The DoD knows.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Putting eight different viruses in one jab - viruses that like to combine and mutate. Why do I get the feeling this might accelerate the rate of new variants?

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Dr Linda's avatar

Same

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SB's avatar

Excellent point

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Lori's avatar

You are spot on VVV.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

Because it's easier to be suspicious than to imagine real progress. I get it the trust deficit is real. But predicting or preparing for unknown viruses isn’t the same as creating them. That’s how vaccines for things like flu strains or even pan-coronavirus platforms work by identifying patterns and building defenses in advance.

It's one thing to hold institutions accountable. It's another to assume malice every time we see innovation. Let’s not let healthy skepticism turn into reflexive paranoia.

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Richard Whitney's avatar

Each year's flu vaccine is based on the current strain circulating in Australia.

They don't just invent flu viruses to "prepare" for.

Every year the CDC announces the effectiveness of the past year's flu vaccine. You might want to look that up, since you seem convinced that they are effective.

Nope. Every year they report how ineffective the last year's vaccine was, and then announce that you totally need this year's version.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

The law even says that they are unsafe and in effective, and therefore they need to be immune from lawsuits. That’s why they made the vaccine court. Which is completely biased and always denies 99% of the claims.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

It’s true that vaccine manufacturers have legal protections under the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act, and that’s because vaccines are a public health tool not a typical consumer product. No medical intervention is 100% risk-free, so Congress created the Vaccine Injury Compensation Program (VICP) to balance public access with individual accountability. That doesn’t mean vaccines are “unsafe and ineffective” it means the government recognized the need to handle rare injuries without shutting down vaccine development entirely.

The vaccine court has paid out billions in compensation, which contradicts the idea that it “always denies 99% of claims.” The standard is lower than in civil court it only requires a preponderance of evidence, not proof beyond a reasonable doubt.

This system isn’t perfect, and skepticism is healthy. But saying the law proves vaccines are unsafe flips the logic. It’s actually an attempt to keep vaccines available while making space for people to seek redress when things go wrong and yes, sometimes they do. That’s reality. But it's also why we measure risks in context, not in absolutes.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

You're right that flu vaccines are based on circulating strains, and you're also right that their effectiveness isn’t perfect. That’s not hidden it’s openly reported every year. But that’s actually a strength of the system, not a weakness.

Flu viruses mutate fast. That’s why the vaccine has to change yearly, and why its effectiveness varies. It’s not a con it’s the reality of fighting a shape-shifting virus. Even when the match isn’t perfect, the vaccine still reduces severity, hospitalizations, and deaths in large populations. That’s what “working” means in this contex not total immunity, but better odds.

And the fact that the CDC publicly reports the effectiveness each year? That’s transparency, not deception. They’re not pretending it’s flawless. They’re showing their math and letting people decide. That’s more than you can say for most industries.

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Duckduffer's avatar

Flu vaccines don't work.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

That’s not really accurate. Flu vaccines aren’t perfect, but saying they "don’t work" is misleading. Their effectiveness varies year to year because the flu virus mutates rapidly, but even in lower efficacy years, the vaccine still reduces the risk of severe illness, hospitalization, and death especially for the elderly, young children, and people with compromised immune systems.

It’s not about total prevention.

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Duckduffer's avatar

Cleveland Clinic study published in Medrxiv.org revealed this years flu shot was linked to a 27% increase in infection. In other words, it makes it more likely you will get sick. So yes, it's not about total prevention. It also doesn't work. From the report "over the course of the study the cumulative incidence of influenza increased more rapidly among the vaccinated than the unvaccinated"...

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Balance with Bite's avatar

I’ve seen that Cleveland Clinic preprint and it’s a perfect example of why interpreting studies carefully matters. First, it wasn’t peer-reviewed. MedRxiv is a preprint server, meaning the study hasn’t gone through scientific scrutiny yet, and findings can (and often do) change after review or replication.

Second, correlation doesn’t mean causation. Just because vaccinated individuals had a higher rate of flu infection in that study doesn’t automatically mean the vaccine caused it. Many confounding factors could be in play like who chose to get vaccinated (often older or higher-risk individuals), exposure levels, or timing relative to flu season.

Third, flu vaccine effectiveness varies year to year depending on how well the circulating strains match the vaccine strains. That’s openly acknowledged and published annually by the CDC and WHO. Some years are better than others but the goal is reducing severity, hospitalizations, and deaths, especially in vulnerable populations.

So if the argument is “this particular flu shot may not have worked well this year,” that’s fair. But jumping to “flu shots make you sick” oversimplifies the science and misrepresents what the data actually says. Science evolves by testing, not by cherry-picking the outliers.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

No vaccine ever works. None of them. They are all completely unsafe and completely ineffective.

There is even a law which says that because vaccines are unsafe and effective, we must give them an immunity, and therefore we cannot sue them.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

That’s simply not true. The idea that no vaccine has ever worked is easy to disprove. Smallpox was eradicated globally thanks to a vaccine. Polio, once paralyzing tens of thousands of kids each year in the U.S. alone, has been reduced to near-zero in most of the world because of vaccination. Tetanus, measles, mumps, rubella all of these are vastly less common and less deadly thanks to vaccines.

As for legal immunity that doesn’t mean vaccines are "completely unsafe and ineffective." It means that Congress recognized the value of vaccines to public health, while also acknowledging that rare adverse effects can occur. The Vaccine Injury Compensation Program exists to handle those rare cases efficiently and it has paid out compensation. That would never happen if all claims were denied.

You can critique the system and there’s room for real debate but claiming all vaccines are 100% useless and dangerous flies in the face of history, data, and basic logic. If that were true, we’d still be burying children from diseases we barely think about today.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Not one vaccine has ever worked.

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Danielle's avatar

Curious to know how they scientifically prove that something DOESN’T happen?

Is it a repeatable experiment?

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Balance with Bite's avatar

Great question and it cuts right to the heart of how science works.

Strictly speaking, science doesn't "prove" something doesn’t happen in the absolute sense. What it does is test hypotheses and look for evidence. If something consistently fails to happen under controlled, repeatable conditions, we build confidence that it likely doesn't occur at least under those conditions.

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Danielle's avatar

There is a difference between “likely” doesn’t occur and blanket statements that say that they reduce severity and hospitalization. That statement is used often, and in situations where I don’t believe that it’s possible to prove. It’s very difficult with a virus that mutates to repeat situations and get reproducible results.

THAT is the propaganda that I am frustrated by.

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Garden Lover's avatar

Because that’s what it is. Your eyes are wide open.

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Ami's avatar

Viruses they have not yet released.

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Gabby_Normal's avatar

I’m currently working on a valuable type of machinery for an industry that hasn’t been created yet. Hope to make it biggly!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Sounds like what I was hearing from “educator specialists” about 10 years ago.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Very good!

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K2ndD4TwiceD's avatar

"folks are less resistant to one than eight separate pricks."

Not sure I totally agree, as most of us here were pretty resistant to Tony Fauci, and he was just one prick...

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Too many pricks.

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Inverted Pyramid's avatar

“Too many pricks can spoil the coupe.”

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Valerie's avatar

They are obviously not listening to the vaccine hesitant crowd. Even for people willing to take vaccines or have them given to their children, the ones that are most objected to are the combination ones.

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Annie's avatar

I do have good news. My HSA now covers many homeopathic meds so I can keep myself healthy and avoid big Harma. It wasn't covered before. 👍

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh that’s encouraging!!

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CarO Lyn's avatar

Yesterday I saw an ad for an organic beef farm on FB that said they qualified for HSA.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Annie, this HSA sounds like a good thing. How do we sign up?

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Annie's avatar

An HSA is a health savings account that comes with high deductible Healthcare plans. You use it on qualified items and deductibles etc. I had mine when I worked and funded it pre-tax each year. It is portable and goes with you. As a retired person I use it to buy health care items or qualified health care services.

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Kathleen's avatar

Who is your HSS Annie

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Annie's avatar

I am retired. So it is through payflex. I buy from the HSA Store online.

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Louise (the mother)'s avatar

I agree! I remember being offered a 6in1jab option as I was in the process of delaying my kids shots, and the nurse was like “See—it’s only one shot! That’s better right?” They totally didn’t get it—it wasn’t the pain that I objected to—it was the assault on their immune systems!! (Which is, of course much worse in a multi-shot!)

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Danielle's avatar

They really do just assume that all people are stupid. That all a mother or father is worried about is the crying after the actual needlestick. 🙄

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Annie's avatar

Yep. To the covidians, taking a shot every couple of months shows true devotion and virtue signaling of the highest level. All hail the pharmakeia gods. 🤮

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SteelJ's avatar

Sure, when it kills them they will go to heaven, they are so good.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

I support them fully in that.

(Gene pool improvement!)

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Bandit's avatar

Not fast enough though.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

”...separate pricks." "You never know." 🤣

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mimi's avatar

Let's not forget Bill Gates.

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Justin's avatar

Can 8 of them fit into one syringe! Well, for the sake of science, LET'S TRY!

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Verve's avatar

I honestly don't think he's human, just like Epstein and all the other oligarch ghouls.

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Annie's avatar

🤢🤮

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shayne's avatar

He's a knob!

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Danielle's avatar

Somewhat of an understatement!

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shayne's avatar

LOL

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Why does the image of Fauci keep appearing when I read about pricks?

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Juju's avatar

Hahahahaha. 🤣🤣🤣🤣

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Dr Linda's avatar

Nice word play

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Connie Lemmincakes's avatar

I admit to laughing hysterically at this as I was driving to spend the day with my granddaughters. Too many pricks!!! Hahaha!!!

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Betsy's avatar

Brilliant! :-)

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Jay Horton's avatar

Doh.... (like Andrew Dice Clay)!

Later Jay

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Bandit's avatar

😂🤣😂🤣

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Kay Zanger's avatar

Good one

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Nancy Parsons's avatar

😂🤣😂

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

When I am afraid,

I will put my trust in You.

In God, whose word I praise,

In God I have put my trust;

I shall not be afraid.

What can mere man do to me?

. . .

You have taken account of my wanderings;

Put my tears in Your bottle.

Are they not in Your book?

Then my enemies will turn back in the day when I call;

This I know, that God is for me.

In God, whose word I praise,

In the LORD, whose word I praise,

In God I have put my trust, I shall not be afraid.

What can man do to me?

— Psalm 56:3-4, 8-11 NAS

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RJ Rambler's avatar

THIS! Sustained me/us thru the pandemic and when I lose my sight I lose my anchor and I start sinking. Thank you so much for your dedication as Jeff's everyday to encourage us in what alone is important in this evil world. ❤️

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Praise the LORD

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Annie's avatar

Love the Psalms.

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nik's avatar

Amen amen 🙌🙏

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Donna Oliphint's avatar

One of my favs. To think the Almighty collects my tears…

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Inexpressible wonder.

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shayne's avatar

Amen!

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Oppositional Defiance's avatar

So proud of RFK firing ACIP!

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KBB's avatar

RFK Jr posted this on X today. A bit long, but pasting it here for those without access.

Yesterday, I retired 17 members of the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices or ACIP, the @CDCgov

external panel that wields the grave responsibility of adding new vaccines to the recommended childhood schedule. Over the coming days, I will use this platform to announce new members to populate ACIP. None of these individuals will be ideological anti-vaxxers. They will be highly credentialed physicians and scientists who will make extremely consequential public health determinations by applying evidence-based decision-making with objectivity and common sense.

I will also be tweeting examples of the historical corruption at ACIP to help the public understand why this clean sweep was necessary.

The most outrageous example of ACIP’s malevolent malpractice has been its stubborn unwillingness to demand adequate safety trials before recommending new vaccines for our children. Today, a compliant American child receives between 69 and 92 routine vaccines (depending on brand/dictated dosage) from conception to 18 years of age. This is up from 11 shots in 1986. ACIP has recommended each of these additional jabs without requiring placebo-controlled trials for any of them. This means that no one can scientifically ascertain whether these products are averting more problems than they are causing.

Many vaccine promoters have challenged this assertion. They are always wrong. Last week, @CNN

, which has devolved into a shameless propagandist for Big Pharma, triumphantly announced that it had proof that my pronouncement that “there have been no placebo-controlled safety trials for any routine vaccines” was false. CNN gleefully proclaimed that it had found 257 placebo-controlled studies for routine vaccines.

So, allow me a moment to deconstruct CNN’s claims. Warning: this post may only be sufferable for science geeks like myself.

CNN is wrong. No routine injected vaccine on CDC’s schedule was licensed for children based on a placebo-controlled trial. In instances where a vaccine was used as a control, it too was never licensed based on a placebo-controlled trial. That is not conjecture. It is a fact based on FDA’s clinical trial data. (See http://sirillp.com/noplacebo). As Secretary of @HHSGov

, acknowledging this lamentable truth is part of my promise of radical transparency.

The 257 studies cited by CNN unwittingly reflect the lack of safety trials underpinning CDC’s schedule. Despite CNN’s worldwide effort to crowdsource trials with a placebo control (per @US_FDA

/@CDCgov

, an “inert substance”*), this list, on its face, reflects that 236 of the studies clearly did not use an “inert” safety comparator in a trial to license an injected routine vaccine for children on CDC’s schedule.**

For the remaining 21 studies CNN’s list claims used an inert injection, 9 plainly did not:

• RCT 251, 252 (Varivax) injected an antibiotic, neomycin – not inert.

• RCT 84, 97 (HPV-16 and 16/18) injected aluminum adjuvant – not inert.

• RCT 215 (Almevax) injected another vaccine – not inert.

• RCT 55 (Lyophilized PedvaxHIB) injected lactose, aluminum adjuvant, and thimerosal – not inert.

• RCT 197 (Salk vaccine) injected 199 solution, synthetic tissue culture, ethanol, phenol red, antibiotics, and formalin – not inert.***

• RCT 168 (Dow’s MMR) injected full vaccine minus virus, including all stabilizers, antibiotics, diluent, preservative, and buffers – not inert.****

• RCT 189 (Menveo) injected Tdap+saline or Menveo+saline – not inert.

For the remaining 12 listed studies which may have had an inert injection, none was a trial relied upon to license a routine vaccine on CDC’s childhood schedule:

• RCT 170, 171, 172 (MMR VaxPro), 228 (PCV11), 136 (Vaxigrip), 242 (Antitetanus), and 122 (Chinese flu shots) trialed vaccines never licensed in the U.S. nor relied upon to license a U.S. vaccine.

• RCT 124 (Fluzone IIV3), 102 (WVV/SPV), and 188 (Menveo) trials occurred after each respective vaccine was licensed, hence were not relied upon for their licensure.

• RCT 176 (Mumps vaccine) was not relied upon by the FDA to license the current MMR vaccine. (See MMR-II clinical trial report in link above.)

• RCT 53 (PRP-D) was for a vaccine withdrawn soon after its introduction and not relied upon by the FDA to license any U.S. vaccine.

While these 12 studies were not relied upon to license a routine vaccine on the CDC’s schedule, they do reflect that a placebo-controlled trial of a vaccine is possible. They also reflect what can be learned when a placebo trial is performed. For example: RCT 136 found the vaccine ineffective; RCT 122 found that “severe adverse effects occurred in 69 (0·6%, 95% CI 0·5–0·8) recipients of vaccine compared with one recipient (0·1%, 0–0·2) of placebo.”; and RCT 124 found “the rate of hospitalization was actually higher in the [Fluzone IIV3] vaccine group than in the placebo group.”

The unfortunate reality is that placebo-controlled trials, however, do not occur and have not been relied upon when FDA licenses vaccines for injection during childhood or ACIP recommends the shot for addition to the CDC’s routine schedule.

CNN would have reached the same conclusion had it reviewed the FDA documentation for each vaccine, instead of relying upon a random, crowd-sourced list from the internet. CNN’s list ironically proves the lack of adequate safety trials for routine childhood vaccines.

It is time to stop playing games, such as CNN’s false gotcha. We have gone from 3 routine injections by age one in 1986 (the year the National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act passed) to 25 routine injections by age one in 2025 (which now does not include Covid-19 vaccine). Because of the 1986 Act, every one of these products, save one, was developed by companies knowing they would almost never be liable for serious harm. During this same period, chronic diseases in our children exploded, most of which are caused by immune system dysregulation. If we are to identify the exposures that are causing this epidemic of autoimmune diseases, we need to rule out products given dozens of times to young children, specifically to modify the immune system, as potential culprits.

Our infants and children deserve the best safety trials possible to keep them safe. We should care as much about every child who could be injured by one of these products as we do every child who could be injured by an infectious disease. We must protect all children.

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Contrary to Ordinary's avatar

Thank you for posting this. RFK is doing yeoman’s work. The impatience of many is understandable, but few have a grasp on just how powerful the forces against these changes are. We are very fortunate to have someone with the knowledge and fortitude to make a difference. As Jeff often counsels us, “let the man work”.

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Paul Paulson's avatar

More people should be outraged by this.

Or not. Whatever floats your boat.

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william howard's avatar

now to ban advertising and royalties to CDC et al - all conflicts of interest need to be removed

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Based Florida Man's avatar

He's been so slow out of the gate.

Hopefully things are picking up.

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C. Wilson's avatar

All these people have so much on their plates and the same 24 hours we have in our days. I'll take slow and steady- and getting it right.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Not banning all mRNA jabs is a damned disgrace.

No need for more time or more craven excuses. An estimated 17 million have died worldwide from the Covid jabs... so WTF?

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C. Wilson's avatar

I agree 100%. There will be no jabs of any kind for people or dogs in our house (except the required dog's rabies- we live in the country anyway)

Further more, I have refused numerous attempts over the last 40 years to put me on "for the rest of my life" meds. I never needed them. EVER. My other half went along with it. Now he has ALL the problems the pills were supposed to prevent and most of the side effects. I worked in a jail when first out of college...2 hours outside Detroit, but that is a book for another day. The jail nurse got me, then 22, started on nutrition with books by Adele Davis. She was right then and now. I still don't need pills. Tell me what is wrong and I go do nutrition research

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Lori's avatar

Agreed, music to our ears.

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Sam's avatar

He said that he did it so that Americans would believe that vaccines are safe again. I don’t think any vaccine is safe, but he apparently does after decades calling out how unsafe they are.

Read Sasha’s essay on this move.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Not banning the Covid death-jabs yet though...

How many more have to be injured or die?

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Perhaps RFK will let the new ACIP recommend no more C-19 jabs. I would like to see an immediate halt of jabs to those under 18 years of age.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Why wait? And... Why only for those under 18 yrs old?

The stuff is obviously poison.

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S.P.H.'s avatar

Indeed, but someone needs to protect the children thus my request to stop childhood jabs immediately.

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Juju's avatar
Jun 11Edited

Morning from the soon to be rioted city of Chicago

Edit - And so it begins:

https://x.com/bubblebathgirl/status/1932804012312580439

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Juju's avatar
Jun 11Edited

I’m somber this morning so really soaking up any comment that makes me laugh. Thank you ahead of time ❤️

As I’ve shared before we have been estranged from our daughter for a decade after losing her to the woke mind virus. Yesterday my son shared a text with me from her that shattered my heart as a mother: she was fully brainwashed by the present leftist propaganda about immigration, to the point of vile hatred for the “privileged” and the “white man.” You could almost feel the spit coming off the screen. My first reaction was deep pain that I failed to adequately instill God’s word into her heart the way my own mother did so that she would have the Holy Spirit guide her when it mattered most, and recognize truth among the garbage. My second response was wonderment at how she could be so easily fooled having grown up in a household that was all about logical thinking and honesty. So then I realized that anyone not exposed to the alternative media (such as C&C, etc) will never hear counter logic, and can easily be fooled. When I perused leftist posts and news yesterday it was hard to see how anything could pull a mind away from it - thereby affirming my first reaction that only the Holy Spirit can overcome all of it.

Then, I experimented with Grok as if I were my daughter and wanted to get proof as to whether or not media lies. I was so disheartened at the exchange. I’ll share a link here, it’s long, but eye opening. Keep in mind I used questions that would be reflective of someone who has no proof or specifics, and only buzz words. AI today is literally fully captured by leftist media and Wikipedia today, even when you push it it says there is no credible evidence of the media lying, and social media is where the lies are at. When I gave it the Russia collusion hoax and Biden’s health and covid, it proceeded to prove how those things weren’t lies. 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️

Like I said, I’m somber this morning because I see no way that my daughter will ever find her way out of their trap, and only prayer is left.

I sooooo look forward to the beautiful sense of humor in this community to lift my spirits today. Big hugs.

https://x.com/i/grok/share/GgYtrX9M2YEuPBhlfQRxvl2Uk

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NAB's avatar

I am in a similar boat with my eldest daughter, Juju. I have completely turned this over to G-d. I baptized her, raised her in the Church, she received all of her Sacraments and now I have to trust in the Holy Spirit. Talking to her now is like talking to a cult member. She lays every action of the "current administration" (her words) at my feet since I voted for Trump. She says I want certain people "not to exist" and that she can't "politely agree to disagree." She has chosen her ideology over her family. I am keeping the door open and will always welcome her back, but this is her journey now.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Praying the Lord changes her heart and opens her eyes 🙏

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

That's all you can do, and what you're supposed to do. Sometimes it takes a long time. I had same situation with one for over 25 years. Never stopped praying. And then in the most crazy, unexpected way, they found the way back.

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SB's avatar

Praise God!

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Teresa Thibodeaux's avatar

Thank you. I am in the same boat as Juju. I keep the lines open, refuse to engage with the repeated leftist talking points he sends me, and pray. Only God can bring them back from this madness. I have to keep my trust in God for his sanity, safety, and soul.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

Thank you for saying!!

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WP William's avatar

in Denver yesterday a "fauxtestor" said, "None of us here accept that being an immigrant can ever be illegal, and ICE is violating all kinds of Immigration Laws by their actions." This isn't someone that can be reasoned with, and if THEIR SIDE prevails (DEMOCRATS), tyranny RULES and rights and laws are whatever they say they are

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Dena's avatar

These insurgents call themselves America’s “indigenous people”. These are not American Indians but Mexicans who believe we, the legal Americans are illegal. Pretty crazy but that brain washing seems to work on some.

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madaboutmd's avatar

Remember St. Monica's prayers for St. Augustine. He was very very lost and came back to the Church to be one of the most prolific doctors of the Church. Please provide your daughter's initials and I will pray a rosary. God knows who I'm praying for with those initials. God bless you and Juju. So sorry for this estrangement and distress.

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PamelaZelie's avatar

The ‘Millions of Monicas” movement in many Catholic Churches has been such a comfort for me. Women (mothers, Godmothers, aunts etc) gather to pray one day each week for all their fallen-away children.

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NAB's avatar

Pamela, can I just Google this?

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madaboutmd's avatar

Love this! Have not heard of this. Thank you!

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NAB's avatar

That is very kind of you. Her initials are MOB. Thank you so much! I am overwhelmed by the generosity.

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Patrice's avatar

I feel your pain, my youngest has determined that I am a nazi for my support of Trump. I just pray for her return to sanity, which would probably really annoy her, since she rejected God as well. (Rejecting God being the bigger sin.)

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Donna in MO's avatar

Praying for your daughter as I am for mine. Same - says we don't fit her 'morals and values' which are distorted by whatever it is she absorbs these days.

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Jeff S's avatar

Sad. Sorry.

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Juju's avatar

Again, as I asked of another reply here, let’s exchange actual names in DMs and add each of them to our prayers

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MOMinator's avatar

Oh yes 💗

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Verve's avatar

Not sure how to send a dm from the app?

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Juju's avatar

I’ll send you one. Look for it under “messages” icon and then select “direct messages”

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AM Schimberg's avatar

I have a couple younger sisters like that. I miss them! Pray and fast!

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nik's avatar

Sometimes those exposed to the Holy Spirit fight the hardest. They know. Praying that the Lord continues to hound and overwhelm your daughter !!!! 🙌🙏

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Juju's avatar

My concern is maybe the Holy Spirit isn’t inside her. We failed at their exposure to God’s word once they hit middle school because we were hogtied by special education needs for three kids with disabilities, and having no support from any family on either side, schools, or the community - and the church was just as bad. Nobody wanted to spend time with a family being bullied. So it was a stressful 7 years that tore our little family to pieces and we failed to Just. Trust. God. We fell away from weekly services. Our two boys later were put in private Christian schools to help them and that built foundational building blocks on their hearts, but our daughter never got that. We then sent her to MCAD (Minneapolis College of Art and Design) where she dropped out after her freshman year and became captured by the city.

My husband and I were trying to build a Christian household when they were young but he never had such an example in his life and was finding his way, so neither of us had the deep spiritual maturity necessary to endure that period in our lives.

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Tom's avatar

Remember that it's the Holy Spirit, and not you, who gives eyes to see, ears to hear, and hearts to obey to those who will worship God in spirit and in truth.

Keep praying for this, and perhaps the seed you have planted will take root. It might be that adversity, which is coming, will cause the soil to be plowed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Amen to that, Tom 🙏

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nik's avatar

Love this Tom 🙏

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

So true! Yes, keep praying!

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Karmy's avatar

Juju please don’t take responsibility for the choices an adult makes. You did the best you could and the rest is up to God. You know God has His plan for every one of us. We just don’t know what it is and it never meets our expectations. Surrender yourself to Jesus. Give Him your concerns and let Him take care of everything. Trust in Jesus. He never lets us down. I will pray for you and your family.

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nik's avatar

That’s why I said “exposed” JuJu …she may not (yet), but you do !! We did not go to church faithfully growing up (loooong story) , but God is faithful!!! And my mom always prayed the hounds of heaven would be on us :))) and the Holy Spirit convict us. The Lord CAN restore the sight of the blind !! 🙌🙏 He’s in the restoration business !

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Juju's avatar

Oh I love this and will be adding it to my prayers: “that the hounds of heaven be upon her.” ❤️❤️❤️ That captures the ferocity I feel in my heart

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MOMinator's avatar

Morning Juju, I’ll be praying for God to heal your heart and restore your family✝️🙏🏼💟

Nothing is too big for our amazing God, and I’m sure he is well aware of the enemy’s efforts to use military-grade propaganda against our young ones…I have a nephew in much the same place as your daughter :(

Unfortunately he has pulled my Christian, Holy-spirit-filled brother and sister-in-law with him. To the point that my brother is posting the Jesus is woke 🙈

I pray the same prayers for them every day and I believe God will wake up the lost…we need to be ready to offer love and comfort when their world-view is shaken to its core.

Hugs to you ❤️

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Lori's avatar

You hit the nail on the head, restoration business. I love this!

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Peace's avatar

JuJu - you would be astounded at the number of young adults who have turned away from the faith of their childhood. Unfortunately, many of our friend families are dealing with this. As in every other area of life, A + B does not necessarily equal C. In other words, parents who did instill Christian faith in their children are not guaranteed adult children who will follow Jesus. That dang free will is a thing, and the culture they've been surrounded by is a culture of evil that wants to turn them away from Christ.

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NAB's avatar

I keep in mind that those who walked with Jesus while He was on earth, turned away from Him despite meeting Him in the flesh.

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Julie Young's avatar

Don’t beat yourself up, Juju. I became a Christian two years into motherhood and, even though we went to (a great) church every Sunday and the kids went to Awana, church camp, Community Bible Study AND were homeschooled, only 2 of the 9 (all adults now) are currently professing Christians. Only three are conservatives. I wonder if all our efforts inoculated them AGAINST our beliefs.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

I'm same but Adam and Eve are in every one of us and God tests every heart. We obey with the seal of The Holy Spirit but each one must be confronted and captured by Jesus Alone. He NEVER LOOSES what God has chosen to give Him. We must not be attached to our earthly relationships more than to The Trinity. God loves far and away more than we do.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

But God Alone in Christ Alone. He will do it.

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Susan Seas's avatar

My heart aches for you! I can FULLY understand!! God can do miracles and the fact that our son speaks to us now is proof. 🙏🏻

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Tom's avatar

It struck me this morning that the whole world is being gaslit by the adversary and has been since the garden.

From Psalm 91: "Because he holds fast to me in love, I will deliver him."

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Karmy's avatar

But the adversary knows his time is coming to an end and is now working to gather as many souls as he can before Jesus ends his reign on earth. This is why things are ramping up.

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Justin's avatar

Within our temples is a remembrance of the events of the garden of Eden, wherein Satan is cast out, but before doing so, he is cursed by God above all other creatures on the earth. Satan claims he will take the evil spirits that follow him and they will possess the bodies that are created for the posterity of Adam and Eve. God places enmity between Satan and the seed of Eve, giving us power to crush Satan's head, though Satan will have the ability to bruise our heels (temporary) in the interim.

Satan says that he will take that enmity and use the treasures of the earth, and gold and silver, to buy up armies and navies, false priests who oppress, and tyrants who destroy, to reign with blood and horror on the earth. At this point Satan is cast out through the power of God.

There's a lot of symbolism here. Through whom the power is given to us to cast out Satan and destroy him permanently, though Satan will try in the interim to beguile us to his side, and use destruction and death to also instill fear in us through weak and destructive people, but he will lose ultimately.

We are in the end stages of Satan's power here. And he and his followers know it.

Salvation is nigh. Let the Holy Spirit testify to your hearts, minds and souls, and not let despair creep into your hearts. We know who wins in the end.

We're taught this over and over again to remind us of this power we have over Satan, and that we're children of God, our Heavenly Father. He cares about us enough to protect and save us through Jesus Christ's atonement for our sins, His sacrifice and subsequent resurrection - overcoming death. That's a path that WE have to choose for ourselves.

God wants us, His children, to come home to Him.

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Tom's avatar

He Who is in us is greater than he who is in the world.

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Juju's avatar

Brought tears to my eyes. All these comments are planting a fierceness in me to fight for my daughter through prayer

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Justin's avatar

He will help you find ways to reach out to your daughter.

That reminds me... I need to write a letter to my estranged son... Hopefully he'll let me speak to him again.

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NAB's avatar

I read a good book recently called "Rules of Estrangement." It gave some advice on how to write a "letter of amends." The two primary goals of the letter are to say, "I'm sorry" and to not get defensive. I sent one to my daughter recently and she did respond, but she didn't respond to anything I said in the letter but went on to basically say she can't look past my conservative views. I will keep trying.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

As Solomon wrote; there’s nothing new under the sun. We’re just dealing with Satan’s latest plan, since all others have failed.

1 Corinthians 10:13

“No temptation has overtaken you except something common to mankind; and God is faithful, so He will not allow you to be tempted beyond what you are able, but with the temptation will provide the way of escape also, so that you will be able to endure it.”

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Carolyn's avatar

So feel your pain and disappointment. I have one of those estranged daughters. I wonder sometimes who came in and stole her soul to occupy her body. Praying is all you can do. Otherwise they run further away. The Bible tells us in the later days your enemies will be those of your own household and I am firmly convinced of this truth. It is so sad and so heartbreaking. Keep finding your strength and discernment in GOD and HIS Word. Pray, pray, pray.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

I think of the Prodigal son parable. The father let him go completely. He didn’t send Care packages or try to prevent the consequences of the rebellious behavior. He just lived his life patiently and faithfully until the chastened son returned.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Yes he did!

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Juju's avatar

Let’s exchange their names in a DM and pray for each other ❤️

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NAB's avatar

I used to struggle with the verse where Jesus says he will divide families (Luke 12:51-53). It just didn't make sense to me and I naively thought, "how does that happen?" I no longer wonder.

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Annie's avatar

Oh my. That's awful. 😔 Keep praying for her and hopefully the Holy Spirit will reach her. 🙏❤️

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Jody's avatar

I feel your pain. I have a daughter semi-immersed in it as well. Reasoning and rational conversations are non-starters. All I can do now is pray.

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Juju's avatar

We should exchange names in DM and pray each day on behalf of each other …

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Laura Kasner's avatar

Oh Juju - my heart aches for you.

So many lovely words here for you. Praying that you soak them in.

God is in control. Prayers that you will be reminded of this every day. 🙏🙏🙏

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

This is what I have to say about Grok: Garbage in, garbage out. It only excretes what it’s been fed.

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Momcat's avatar

Praying for your daughter.

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RunningLogic's avatar

You might not see a way but keep praying because God always has a way 🙏❤️ I am praying with you 🙏

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

Juju, I feel your pain because we have a very similar situation. Our two daughters living out west are fully indoctrinated! They repeat the lies we have read and heard about. The outright lies! Rarely can we visit, rarely can we see our grandchildren... but God. I will never, ever, ever stop praying for their return to the One who created them. I know He keeps His promises! My own parents prayed for the wayward son who quit school and moved away in 10th grade. Never a day passed that they didn't plead with the Father! Now that brother co-owns a large multi-million dollar company. He leads many to Christ every single day starting with Bible study for their employees before dawn at their company headquarters. Our daughters may be distant relationally but they are never out of the Lord's sight and yours aren't either! Don't forget that! It gives us hope to know He is still watching over them! It's the work of the Holy Spirit that can penetrate their hard hearts! Just keep praying and trusting that God will never let them go because He won't! I long for the day when they are back in the flock but until then, I will trust in God's goodness and abundant mercy! Prodigals do come home! I'm praying for your lost ones too.

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NAB's avatar

What an incredible story! Thank you for sharing that.

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I feel your pain, JuJu. Take heart that so many who seemed hopeless were turned around. Saul persecuted Christians in the WORST way, thinking he was doing good. The whole Damascus Rd. thing happened and look who Saul turned into? He was more zealous for God as Paul than he was for his countrymen, as Saul. There are countless stories in the bible with the same basic story line. The Prodigal Son comes to mind.

She’ll come around.

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Robin Landry's avatar

This is a war for our souls for sure. I believe that in the end, God wins and we all wake up, but it’s going to take some serious suffering for 2/3rds of the population to finally get it and to turn back.

This comes from Rudolph Steiner who predicted this 100 years ago.

He also said that vaccines would cut us off from our souls.

Btw, both of our kids are all in on the vaccines. 😭

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

One of the things that made me suspicious of Grok is how positive it was. I was doing the beginning of a script for a spec science fiction script and every question and prompt I came up with was met with a positive reaction from Grok. So that made me suspicious. Just as agent Smith suggested that a "version of a perfect paradise" of the matrix didn't work because humanity didn't buy it, so I don't buy into Grok being the answer...because the answers are just too encouraging and positive. No "what about this" or "hey, this notion actually doesn't have legs."

While you have breath, there is hope.

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Tom's avatar
Jun 11Edited

Punish it with some bad fiction:

"It was a dark and stormy night. The broad standing in front of my desk had tears streaming down her cheeks as if salt water was flowing from ducts in her eyelids. As I knocked back another bourbon, it was almost like someone had put spoiled grain in the bottle. The lightning outside was almost as if the storm was stirring up charged particles that were then seeking a path of least resistance. Just like the broad was doing to my heart. Which I'm told is through my stomach. But I digress . . ."

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

I had a friend in college, and we would make up very cliche descriptive phrases:

And the road went on like pavement.

And the rain fell like water falling from the sky.

The grass grew like green plants out of the ground.

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Tom's avatar

Your writing is like characters on a page, punctuated by periods and commas.

I don't know why this is so much fun . . .

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

And his breakfast called to him, like that first food one ate after a night of not eating.

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Willing Spirit's avatar

😂🤣😂🤣😂

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Balance with Bite's avatar

That's a really sharp observation, Jimmy and you're not wrong to pick up on that overly positive tone. The reason for it is that most AI models like Grok (and ChatGPT, too) are trained with a bias toward being agreeable, helpful, and non-confrontational. They're designed to encourage creativity, support ideation, and avoid appearing judgmental or discouraging especially in early drafts, like scriptwriting or brainstorming.

It’s not that the AI can’t challenge ideas it’s that it defaults to being supportive unless specifically prompted to critique. You kind of have to ask it directly: “What’s the weak point in this idea?” or “Play devil’s advocate.” Otherwise, it’ll keep cheerleading because that’s what it’s optimized to do.

So your Matrix analogy is spot-on. Too much positivity does feel unnatural because real thinking requires friction. AI can provide that, but you’ve got to nudge it in that direction.

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Jimmy Gleeson's avatar

This reminds me of that Twilight Zone episode though where a man is invited to the afterlife, and gets all the women he wants, all he wants to eat, and always wins at gambling and finally the helpful concierge states after he is dissatisfied at all the stuff he gets without effort "We could make it so you don't always win."

The final revelation, though, is when he mistakenly thinks that he has arrived in heaven and the helpful concierge says (paraphrasing) "who said this was heaven?"

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Kalinda's avatar

I am going to give you hope. I just took a trip with a dear friend who believes all the MSM garbage and does zero research on it. She finally told me she was just not going to get upset about it anymore and as I gently asked what she was upset about, I was able to refute everything bogus that she had heard (in a "you won't have to worry about that because look here, it's been misrepresented" way) and each time she just stared at me. But she didn't argue the other side anymore. Many times she was upset about something and I asked logical questions to which she had no answer (remember, no real research) and I was able to either prove what she had heard was misrepresented (my new word) or that what she thought made zero logical sense. (My body, my choice applies to everything, not just select things). For five years I have heard MSM garbage coming out of her mouth, and while we still won't agree on everything (for her Trump is the antichrist and Biden was just given bad information, for me I reserve judgment on Trump and personally have hatred for the things Biden did and tried to do, bad information be danged.) BUT she did come around and see a different viewpoint on a lot. Since most of what she believed was provable lies, there was nothing she could sway me on, though. Some things, I already understood both sides. Some things, she had never considered how it looked from the other side.

So I give you hope that she may find her way out. She has to be ready and whoever might be helping her needs a gentle hand. It's not easy when you realize you believed in lies and never thought to question them.

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Valerie's avatar

This weekend is going to be ugly, will be praying. I hate this crap, these people with the emotional regulation of toddlers. I hope that law enforcement is as sick of them as law-abiding Americans are and shuts it down. Completely and immediately. I have high hopes for here in Houston, but Chicago.... good luck.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and on Flag Day, Trump's birthday, and Father Day's weekend.

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Juju's avatar

And our sons graduation from university getting his masters - right downtown

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KCwoofie's avatar

Be consoled with the fact that they will be wearing masks and black clothes in 90° temps 100° feels- like weather. I think EMS will be busy.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I read a tweet yesterday from someone who lived in Louisiana.

He stated he never had to worry about a criminal hiding in the back seat of his car because of the heat.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Lol good point! 😆 I lived in Louisiana for a while and the heat and humidity are no joke 😛

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Momcat's avatar

you don't have to worry about that in Houston, either!

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Lori's avatar

They should not be allowed to receive any care. Let them reap what they sow.

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Bandit's avatar

🙌

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Bandit's avatar

🤞

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Lori's avatar

Congrats to your son, wonderful achievement:}

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Congratulations!!😍👍

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Lori's avatar

I will be celebrating my Dad, Trump and our glorious flag mounted on the house. There is no room for the lunatics!

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Jerri Hinojosa's avatar

And my birthday, too.

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Lori's avatar

Blessings on your birth day Jerri!

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Bandit's avatar

Happy Birthday a little early! 🎂

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Bard Joseph's avatar

Which flag? Sounds like a Hallmark moment

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I am not your Other's avatar

Be aware that “they” have instructed their comrades to carry US flags instead of Mexican or other flags. They are going for the optics of people holding the “right” flag and being beaten down by this admin and the police.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

This morning, listening the radio news, I heard a protester screaming hysterically, "We have a white nationalist president! I have to fight!" My first thought was, "Well, I must have achieved an even higher level of deplorability then, because I proudly voted for that guy."

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LizRo1627's avatar

I'm in Tallahassee, FL work across from the Capitol and the amount of protesters out there for any given "cause" is a joke and not as many as the local "news" reports. The things written on their signs are laughable. Really wish the news would just ignore them and not report on it, especially this weekend. I'm all for peaceful protests but wish people would have their facts.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

Chaos isn’t the answer, and no one wants to see violence or destruction. But it’s important to remember that anger, even when it looks messy or extreme, often stems from real grievances. Dismissing everyone involved as toddlers oversimplifies a much deeper issue.

Authoritarian crackdowns might feel satisfying in the moment, but they tend to make the long-term problems worse, not better. We should be asking why people are out in the streets, not just how quickly we can shut them up.

Law enforcement should enforce the law fairly, consistently, and with accountability not act as a blunt political tool. We can be tough on crime and still uphold liberty, due process, and civil rights. That’s the balance a free society demands.

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Peace's avatar

The reason people are out on street is because various organizations have organized teams of paid individuals to stir up the trouble. Unfortunately, "innocent" people get caught up in the hype not realizing they are being used. Int he meantime the paid agitators are getting paid $12,500 per week just to stir up trouble.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

If that’s happening, it absolutely deserves investigation. No one supports bad actors exploiting unrest for political or financial gain. But we’ve got to be careful not to turn every protest into a conspiracy. Most people don’t take to the streets for a paycheck they show up because they feel something is broken, ignored, or unjust.

Blaming it all on “paid agitators” risks dismissing legitimate grievances and alienating people who might otherwise be open to honest dialogue. That’s how we end up with more division, not less.

A healthy society should always make space for protest even uncomfortable ones because when people lose the ability to speak out, pressure builds elsewhere. The solution isn’t to shut it down with brute force or cynicism, but to understand the root and deal with it like adults, not just blame it all on shadowy puppeteers.

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Valerie's avatar

I said they have the emotional regulation of a toddler, not that legitimate grievances don’t exist. You were just looking for a way to be offended by my comment.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

Appreciate the clarification and I’m not offended. I just think it’s important we talk about this stuff with more nuance. When emotions run high on all sides, it’s easy to slip into language that dehumanizes or oversimplifies. I know you’re frustrated a lot of people are but if we want real solutions, we’ve got to stay focused on the bigger picture, not just the surface behavior.

Strong feelings don’t automatically mean someone’s unhinged. Sometimes they mean people feel unheard. And how we respond, especially with power or force, says a lot about what kind of country we want to be.

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jmsmithmd's avatar

Paid agitators are riling up the propagandized, until someone gets hurt, and they’ll slink away to the bank. I fear that law enforcement is only human, and I’m not sure how many pallets of cement they can bear before losing patience.

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Balance with Bite's avatar

The math does not add up. You could not rent, train, transport, and house thousands of agents nationwide without invoices, travel logs, or leaks. Whistleblowers break smaller secrets every year. A conspiracy of that size would leave receipts. Arrest records list teachers, nurses, small‑business owners, and college kids from the area. They may be wrong about tactics or facts, but they live there. That undermines the idea that crowds dissolve when paychecks stop.

In a free country we concede that some people will abuse liberty. The answer is not to shrink liberty until abuse is impossible; it is to enforce existing laws with precision and transparency. That approach denies provocateurs their goal, protects peaceful dissenters, and preserves the credibility of law enforcement when the smoke clears.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

🎯

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Dan Crenshaw? Is that you?

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

I am sure the Pacific Northwest will be making headlines, as well. Thanks to Kathleen Janoski, I looked up the protest website nokings.com to see what might be in the offing for this weekend. Surprise, surprise - protests all up and down the I-5 corridor. There are even some planned for some out-in-the-boonies farming communities like Enumclaw. What I find interesting is there is nothing showing for Bellevue (across the lake from Seattle). Is it possible there is nothing planned for Bellevue because during the "summer of love", when looters were ransacking Bellevue Square, the mayor of Bellevue called in the National Guard to restore order? Just a thought.

Mrs. "the Knife"

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I'm going to look up our area; our small rural area has had 2 organized "protests" in the last couple of months. We drove through the protest area both times and saw 1 person (out of several hundred) each time that we actually recognized as being from our area. Almost all were white, middle-aged to elderly. The first time I was struck by how fake and organized the signs appeared to be--most were handlettered, but it all looked off. I remarked then that they had to have been paid, and possibly they're shuttling "extras" from the larger areas to sow their poison in the smaller regions.

Significantly, following those protests, our area had multiple hotly contested school board member elections--conservatives won every single position. Something doesn't smell right! They are trying to make it seem like there is larger opposition in rural/small/conservative areas than there actually is.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

Here is a link with a map showing where these marches are being planned. I'm sure many more locations have been added because of the So.CA shenanigans.

https://www.mobilize.us/map/

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Juju, God be with you! Come on down to Oklahoma, it’s pretty sane here in the small towns and rural areas, and too hot &humid for wimps 😅

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Words Beyond Me Janice Powell's avatar

Hello fellow Okie!

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Juju's avatar

Ok now Oklahoma is on my list of potential retirement places if you are there

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Well, hey there! Cool!!!

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Elaine Russky's avatar

Too hot to riot, I hope. The LA riots are planned for Tulsa and OKC and maybe a few more on the 14th.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

My husband and I actively looking for places in OK to retire, as the Kansas City area has inexplicably gotten too expensive to buy in.

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Susan Catherine's avatar

My daughter got caught in the riots 5 years ago. She was terrified and drove her car the wrong way down a one-way street to get away from them. She doesn't like talking about it to this day it was so rattling.

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C. Wilson's avatar

In Florida we can now run over people in our way to get out. That would not work for a woman who is a sweet, gentle soul.

It would work for me because as I was running over them I'd be shooting byrna tear gas balls out the window. I pray for more like your daughter, but people like me are necessary so she can remain sweet and gentle.

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C. Wilson's avatar

I am female.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Good for you, Wilson!

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Bandit's avatar

I wish we had that run'em over law. My car isn't large, but I'd still give it a shot.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I can imagine 😞

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RJ Rambler's avatar

😭🙏🏼

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Tom's avatar

I suspect that the rioting might be used to create a false flag of some kind.

I would not be at all surprised to see a mass-casualty event take place that will be used to inflame the situation.

Everyone, stay frosty, and more importantly, stay prayed-up.

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Juju's avatar

This is what I’m expecting. They just need one George Floyd. Just one. They cast a wide net across the nation. Chances are good they will get one.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

I don’t think the George Floyd fraud is going to work this time……..

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Juju's avatar

It will be different and look different and pull different heart strings, but it’s the same song

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C. Wilson's avatar

As I pray I'm locking and loading.

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Peter Schott's avatar

Along with many other cities across the US. Locally, there are plans for both Fort Worth _and_ Dallas. I think many more aware people are scouring the areas surrounding the planned gathering places for unexplained pallets of bricks or similar supplies. We have learned _something_ from 2020 and many do NOT want repeats.

There was a quick blurb from Loomer noting that she saw a Walton providing heavy funding for this "No Kings" set of riots and Wal-Mart corporate was _very_ quick to provide a statement that they had nothing to do with it, this woman is pretty much on the outs from her family, and doesn't even live in the US. So kudos to Wal-Mart for responding quickly that this is NOT their doing and doesn't have their support. (at least directly)

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Beckadee's avatar

Alice Walton-from Forbes article "The 76-year-old Walton, who is worth an estimated $19.3 billion according to Forbes, paid to take out a full-page advertisement in The New York Times on Sunday calling on readers to “mobilize” on Saturday, June 14. The advertisement appears to be an escalation of one she paid for in March, also in The Times print edition."

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Bandit's avatar

Who says that that Walmart back track is true? Still boycott Walmart.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Apparently they are supposed to happen in Eugene and Portland too!🙄🙄🙄🙄🙄

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Jeff S's avatar

Let 'em all burn down!

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Carol M.'s avatar

Praying for all of us🙏🇺🇸😇

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Jeff S's avatar

Er, you misspelled the name of the city. It's "Chicano."

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C. Wilson's avatar

It used to be mostly black. Now the Blacks and Whites are uniting.

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Are you planning something, Juju? Just kidding.... 😁😁

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Juju's avatar

🤣🤣🤣

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Did you look at that home I told you about? Here in Daytona on the water?

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Juju's avatar

Yes! I looked at it on Zillow. I love the area. It may be more than we can afford though, unless we strap ourselves with another mortgage - which we don’t want anymore. We got started late in life so we still have a hefty chunk on our mortgage still unlike others our age that have it almost paid off. So our equity is only a bit over half our home’s value right now. To work so hard all these years and not be able to afford a nice home where we want to live when we retire is crushing. Being pigeon holed into a financial class two layers BELOW where we started shouldn’t be possible if you lived debt free except for a mortgage - but all the different taxes we pay in any given year is over 45% of my husband’s income and we don’t have the kinds of snazzy tax shelters that more wealthy people have - so we can’t escape any of it.

Anywayyyy - I loved being pointed to what is possible. I’ve kept the link bookmarked. Thanks ❤️

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🙏 not

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Carolyn's avatar

Praying for your safety

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Lori's avatar

Please stay safe Juju.

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Dr Linda's avatar

I guess you are next in line. : (

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Danielle's avatar

Good luck to all in the US . I hope no-one here is seriously affected by this ridiculous rioting.

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SB's avatar

Wow just wow.

I need a job. Where do I get a protestor job? How much do they pay?

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Juju's avatar

Ikr! I’ve read that some ads said $6,000-$12,000 per week. Sell your soul to the devil and I will give you all these riches, Satan whispers …

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Conservative Contrarian's avatar

Seen in today's local obits:

"William “Will” ...... , 14, ....passed away unexpectedly on June 8, 2025, due to an overwhelming bacterial infection." It went on to say he just finished the 8th grade.

Nowhere in the somewhat long obit did I get the sense they have any notion what very probably caused the situation. Very sad, five years into the scam!

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

Hey, my ‘VERY’ liberal sister just admitted to me that ‘maybe’ the jabs has had something to do with 4 out of my 9 siblings heart issues in the last few years…As I said ‘HELL has frozen over’!!!!!!

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madaboutmd's avatar

I'm turning 65 this month. A high school friend died last week from a heart attack. She is the second such death of a woman 65 and younger in the last several months. A college roommate's husband died last October from a brain aneurysm. He was 64. My doctor (who always pushed the vax's) also died from a brain aneurysm last October. She was 44! This is not normal.

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Nancy Fahey's avatar

Look at all the Doctors across the board, they were first ones to get the jab. Of course the US isn’t going to put it out, but look at the stats up north in Canada…scary….’but we don’t know what’s causing it!’ Give me a break!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh wow!

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

My triple vaxed siblings are waking up. At least they stopped after 3 because they all got the Rona and said wtf. Anyways, one brother and BIL now have been diagnosed with stage 4 prostate cancer. PC used to be slow growing and very treatable. There’s is not, even though caught “early”. They suspect I was right when I begged them not to get those jabs. My BIL so proudly ran and got his paper to show me his jab status back in early 2021. 😔

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Sherrylyn Young's avatar

Nancy--I miss you and hope you are enjoying your new digs!

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Annie's avatar

Wow!

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Betsy Frost's avatar

Yesterday I had 2 separate conversations during which I was told about someone having a stroke. One a 61 year old and the other victim a young adult. Prior to the past couple of years, I had only ever heard about 1 young stroke victim in my sixty some years of life. Something has definitely changed! But very few people I speak with will acknowledge this or speculate on causes. I think they chose to ignore it.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I do honestly think their minds just don’t let them go there. My mom‘s friend fully jabbed for every single thing suddenly had huge huge problems after I believe it was the RSV? So now she’s starting to wonder if that caused all her medical problems.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Agree. That and cancer and heart attacks. I just saw a headline about appendix cancer being on the rise (I know a commenter here mentioned that he or she knew someone who had been diagnosed with that also) which I had never even heard of until recently, I didn’t even know it was a thing! 😳😕

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Chris Koopman's avatar

So many young women with gall bladder cancer now as well.

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RunningLogic's avatar

😞

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Annie's avatar

Yep. Big time. I guess I can understand- to know I did this to myself and maybe even my children. Yes. That would be hard to accept. For me, I apologized to my adult children for getting them vaxxed as children. Now I am after the perps and want them to pay and be laid low. I will not forgive nor forget.

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Lori's avatar

Same.

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Susan Seas's avatar

😭 Hope his parents can live with their decision. Somewhere deep down they must know.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I have given up hope that people know.

Blame it in the cognitive decline from the shots.

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Annie's avatar

And wilful blindness.

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Mark's avatar

“The eye sees only what the mind is prepared to comprehend.”

{Robertson Davies (1913-1995)}

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Put the VA in that category.

The VA is still recommending and offering the covid DeathVax to veterans.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Probably in denial because who wants to admit they contributed to their child’s death? 😞

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

My suspicion is that many still don't know. Because why would they change their news-acquisition habits?

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Totally needless loss, very sad.

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Lori's avatar

14 yo. He did not even get to live yet. This sickens my very Soul. No words for the tragedy of this loss.

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Jennifer's avatar

Heartbreaking.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Isn’t it unbelievable how strong brainwashing can be?

How powerful advertising is.

They can cause you to deny your own eyes and ears and senses .

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RK65's avatar

Very sad that so many fell for and still believe/follow the cult of population reduction. As rational people we will never change the narrative of their beliefs. Pray for them all and support all jabs for the radicals that believe in them!

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I stayed up too late. I watched a Rumble channel that showed several live streamers from the "protests" in LA, Chicago, New York City and Portland. The streamers were right in the street action. The protesters in NYC looked more like a substitute for a Pride Month gathering. In LA it was interesting to see how the police controlled the crowd after the 8PM curfew there in the downtown area.

Portland had the real hardcore antifas attacking an ICE facility there. I still expect Trump to invoke the Insurrection Act soon.

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Jpeach's avatar

1550 No Kings events(protest, riots, terrorism) are scheduled for Saturday. As Mike Tyson once said (and I’m paraphrasing), nothing will wake you up, like a punch in the nose. I hope my many misinformed liberal friends and family, will wake up when their neighborhood is under assault and the their ( sanctuary municipality) police, just let it happen.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

And one very upsetting item is that the Walmart heiress, a Walton someone, paid for the full page ads promoting this No Kings site, and I have heard she also paid for American flags for the protesters to use.

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Roger Beal's avatar

Sam's kids are as ignorant as are Murdoch's.

Miz Walton may be peeved, that Trump's tariffs are reducing HER income stream from Walmart sales, and are harming HER associates in Chyna.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Patty Hearst heiress back in the 60's. Guilt over being blessed with inheritance. So destroy, rather than consider how to use that fortune in ways that benefit others. Just destroy, destroy.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I recall her antics.

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UncleWiggly's avatar

Patty Hearst was only 19 years old when she was kidnapped by the SLA and some say her response was Stockholm Syndrome. Patty testified that she had been raped and threatened with death while held captive. She was sentenced to 35 years in prison for bank robbery and other crimes committed while she was with the SLA. Personally, I think she was a victim and shouldn't have been sentenced to anything other than probation.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

I agree, uncle wiggly. She was only 19. She was raped and sexually abused and beaten and tortured.

When she escaped, she eventually married her bodyguard.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

It was real news to me at the time; I was 24.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup the guilt and the desire to be seen as “not one of THOSE” (ie privileged) is very strong 😕

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Jeff S's avatar

Wuhanmart.

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Carolyn's avatar

Mr Sam wasn't like his kids. He would be so upset about how they turned out. Elite Privilege sometimes is a very bad thing if humility and responsibility along with respect and a work ethic are not taught as well.

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neener's avatar

Sam Walton is spinning ....

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BelleTower's avatar

I think it is time for me to let go of Walmart like I once let go if target … turn my back and never return

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

I was made aware that the woman is Christy Walton, the widow of one of Sam's sons. She inherited a few Billion. So it's not Walmart directly doing this, but a liberal wealthy elite.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Good guy Rep Burchett suggests shooting these lice DOWN.

Guy should be Speaker, instead of Judas Johnson.

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Litr8r's avatar

I'm praying he does! THIS is an actual insurrection and involves terrorists and enemies.. Duh. (Jan 6 obviously was not.)

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Am I right in recalling that not one J6 defendant was actually charged with insurrection?

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Roger Kimber, MD's avatar

Yes.

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NAB's avatar

That is correct. Not one. And you know if they could have, they would have. That's why they had to contort the application of other statutes to elevate what would have been misdemeanor charges into felonies.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

And not one gun. And not one brick or stone or concrete was thrown.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

zerohedge: *BONDI SAYS TRUMP ADMIN WILL EVOKE HOBBS ACT IN CALIFORNIA

Grok explains it:

The claim suggests Pam Bondi, plans to use the Hobbs Act to prosecute looters in California during LA riots sparked by ICE raids. The Hobbs Act (18 U.S.C. § 1951) targets robbery or extortion affecting interstate commerce, with up to 20 years in prison. This aims to assert federal authority and deter crime, especially in a state opposing federal policies. Critics may see it as overreach, questioning if looting meets the commerce requirement or if it's politically motivated. Legal challenges are possible, but unconfirmed. The move reflects federal-state tensions, with unclear outcomes.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Based - I first thought this referred to the cartel-owned Governor of AZ, lol.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Who is a vile, corrupt election stealing ahole.

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PrsctNative's avatar

Agreed. She and her AZ invading politics are wreaking havoc as planned.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Yep... too bad the Trump/Bondi promises to do a deep investigation of the '20 and '22 elections turned out to be bullcrap... a similar stench as the Epstein, 911 and JFK files releases..

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UncleWiggly's avatar

I hope they do that.

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Momcat's avatar

they're waving flags of other countries which means invasion, not immigration & assimilation. Real immigrants would be waving American flags & celebrating being Americans, not looting, destroying property, committing arson. The real immigrants I know that went through the process of becoming citizens are furious at the rioters. The riots are changing peoples minds about the whole subject. We want all of them deported now - the landscapers, the roofers, the construction crews, the maids, etc, - all of them deported.

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I am not your Other's avatar

Be aware that protestors have been instructed to fly, and provided with, US flags now. They want to take back the US flag as a symbol. And they especially want the optics of the US flag holders getting beaten down.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

It's a shame that many law-abiding long-time residents will be affected if they are not legal citizens. But the situation has gotten way out of hand, and mass deportations are necessary. Homan is starting with the worst offenders, the gangs, the criminals, the traffickers, which is appropriate. The Dems and the fake media have been trapped into defending these criminals. Legal immigration only from now on.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Too bad so sad. They have been given plenty of warning, and they can go back to their home countries and work to MAKE THEIR OWN country great to live in.

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Lori's avatar

Yes indeed. Scum need not stay here.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Agree, Momcat! The good ones, who truly did come here to have a better life, help their families, etc etc, have been given PLENTY OF WARNING to go back now, and I'm almost positive, even have their airfare paid to return to home country. Bye-bye now!

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Peter's avatar

I drive by Portland ICE Monday and it was surrounded by what looked like a PBS pledge drive. But Tuesday was a very different crowd, the masked anarchists. Clearly things were going to go badly.

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Peace's avatar

It took a day or so for the paid antagonists to get bussed in, apparently.

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c Anderson's avatar

Rose City Antifa. Did you know they were founded 2007? They are Democrat lackeys. Wonder if the Dems running the city will call a curfew on them before someone is hurt? Probably not.

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Susan Seas's avatar

I heard on one podcast them saying why do you think in 2020 things were allowed to get that bad? To give them a false sense of security for just such a time as this.

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Politico Phil's avatar

They have a very interesting discussion about those behind the riots and how they work. .............................................................

Why the LA Insurrection Might Trigger a Nationwide Civil War

Mike Adams

Things are escalating very rapidly in the L.A. insurrection scene, with more violence from the traitors, while Trump deploys hundreds of active duty U.S. Marines to help quell the rioting.

Today I've interviewed Michael Yon for full details on where this is headed, and Matt Bracken's analysis adds to the conclusion that this looks likely to explode in the coming days and weeks.

It's already spreading to other cities like NYC, Austin and Dallas. By this weekend, 20+ U.S. cities will see similar riots and acts of violence against our nation.

https://www.brighteon.com/cab1db7e-e204-4b06-a4ed-8c6a5a2554c2

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Lori's avatar

Love our 2nd amendment. Use it when needed/threatened.

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Sue Rosenthal's avatar

I read some stellar commentary on this very subject this morning by Max Remington.

https://open.substack.com/pub/agentmax/p/the-intifada-begins?r=8r0cp&utm_medium=ios

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Politico Phil's avatar

War Drums

Mexico, China, and others, are lining up for War

JUN 11, 2025

...We are in a state of war. Matters not who likes this or not. This is a fact. This is global and local.

https://michaelyon.substack.com/p/war-drums

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Abiding Dude's avatar

"The protesters in NYC looked more like a substitute for a Pride Month gathering. " LOL!!

FreaksRUS!

ww.2ndsmartestguyintheworld.com/p/psyop-ice-riots-activating-all-across?

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

Re Trump and Musk…I TOLD YOU they would be besties again soon! The boy band will soon be playing happy tunes once more and the media can continue focusing on mostly peaceful protests and fun family outings featuring car infernos. It’s gonna be a grand summer.

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Jpeach's avatar

The relationship between Trump and Musk will never be the same. Musk revealed who he really is. (A 1000 page novel could be written on that subject). Trump needs to use Musk judiciously.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Unless it was a made-for-television script from the get-go.

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Janene's avatar

Yep. Total theater.

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RunningLogic's avatar

It’s so hard to tell at this point. All I know is, Trump and Musk are both privy to a lot of information that I don’t have, and so that makes it very difficult for me to decide what is really going on.

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Tom's avatar

Or a pro-wrestling plot.

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JSR's avatar

☝🏼☝🏼

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madaboutmd's avatar

Yes, indeed!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And the "break-up" gave Dumbocrats time to drive (or buy) their Teslas again.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

They won't be best friends again, but I'm very relieved the are talking again, and will hopefully work together.

Trump has to remember how much help Musk provided to his campaign, and that if it weren't for X, most everyone would think the riots were "mostly peaceful".

Musk knows that the Trump administration is far better than any Democratic alternative. He just needs to learn (really, really learn) how many congresspeople are beholden to special interests and how hard it is to get anything done, and adjust his sights accordingly.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

"We really don’t hate the media nearly enough."

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Pat Wetzel's avatar

👍👍👍👍👍

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mimi's avatar

"hey just meant typhoid. Even worse, it actually is a new kind of treatment-resistant typhus"

Just wanted to note, typhoid fever and typhus are two different diseases. Typhoid fever is caused by a Salmonella bacteria. Typhus is also caused by a bacteria, but is spread by ticks, fleas and mites.

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Rosie Langridge's avatar

Thanks. Do you know, is Lyme disease just a new name for typhus? The symptoms sound the same.

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Lyme's disease is the Borrelia burgdorferi bacterium. I strongly recommend reading "Bitten", by Kris Newby. It's written like a novel like The Hot Zone, but based on truth. In her book, she actually interviews the discoverer of the bacterium before he died. I couldn't put it down. There are white papers that implicate other bacterium in Lyme's disease symptomatology, but infectious disease experts deny there are other bacterium that are associated with Lyme's. I've seen differently regardless of what the infectious disease doctors say, it's all about consensus and guidelines.

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Here it is:

file:///C:/Users/tucso/Downloads/_OceanofPDF.com_Bitten_-_Kris_Newby.pdf

Consider a small donation, this site is great... tons of free books to download!

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madaboutmd's avatar

Thanks, I'll pick that up. I got Lyme disease in 2016. Thankfully I had the bullseye rash so I was able to get it diagnosed right away. My nephew got a couple of years ago at the age of 9 and it took a long time to diagnose.

I got Epstein Barr in 1987 after returning from Australia so already compromised. And so I'll have both in my system forever with fatigue from time to time. Sucks.

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LamedVav disavows all vaxes.'s avatar

Yes, that’s what they do. They split one disease into 20 other diseases.

All the poxes are the same disease: smallpox, chickenpox, shingles, herpes – they cannot be scientifically distinguished.

All the rashes are just one disease.

And so on.

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Susan Seas's avatar

On the other hand, your son took out your drone with a stuffy. I’m still chuckling 🤭 sorry to you though. I’m going to add some stuffed animals to my emergency defense plan. 😆

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Juju's avatar

I have an old, old box of beanie babies still with tags tucked away in some box in our basement. Who knew they were better used as weapons 🤣🤣👍

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Tom's avatar
Jun 11Edited

Your valuable "portfolio" may come in handy!

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Susan Seas's avatar

No Longer Worthless! Priceless Am mo 🤣🤣🤣

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Tom's avatar

And suddenly Beanie Babies are once again relevant!

All you scoffers better start bidding!

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Juju's avatar
Jun 11Edited

🤣🤣🤣

And my box is BIG. I think I have close to 150 of them in a 3’x2’ box.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe that’s what we should’ve sent to Ukraine?? 🤔😆

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Tom's avatar

All those stuffed Fauci dolls can go . . .

Now, if they made one that told one of 20 different lies every time you pulled a string, you might want to hang on to that one.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

I must stop and comment after reading Jeff’s first segment, on the new octo-jab and the “Victorian bleeding disease. These demonic forces working through wicked people never stop!! I recall the old Frank Peretti Christian novels about the unseen spiritual war we are in. Anybody remember those? I could also paraphrase a favorite line from Pirates of the Caribbean: “you better believe in ghost stories, Missy, because you’re in one!”

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CL Shoemake's avatar

Yes!!!! Stayed up all night to read his first, “This Present Darkness”, because I LITERALLY could not put it down!! Absolutely agree that he amazingly described the spirit realm and the unseen (but certainly felt by those with eyes to see & ears to hear!!) warfare by the forces of good and evil!!! One thing I recall as so very vital, the more we PRAY, the more angels sent to help us!! 🙏🙌🙏🙌

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Politico Phil's avatar

Peretti... I read his novels in the 80s. Very entertaining Christian fantasy novels. Then I graduated to CS Lewis' "Space" trilogy. A bit heavier Christian fantasy. I especially liked the third novel in Lewis' set called "That Hideous Strength". Very descriptive of what has happened lately.

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Margot Wooster's avatar

I might have to give Lewis’ trilogy another try. I tried to read it quite a few years ago and couldn’t get into it. I LOVE Chronicles of Narnia and many of his nonfiction works.

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Politico Phil's avatar

My absolute all-time favorite is JRR Tolkien's "Lord of the Rings". I read that trilogy twice when I was a senior in HS and I almost never read books twice. It's interesting that CS Lewis was mentored by Tolkien and Tolkien was mentored by the old Scottish master George MacDonald. Theirs was a legacy of Christian fantasy passed from one generation to the next.

I also read Lewis' "Space Trilogy" decades ago. As I recall, the first two novels in the series were a little slow going. I recommend just going to the third book, "That Hideous Strength", and just read that. The theme of that book was "the lure of the inner circle." It was a marvelous depiction of how evil organizations lure men into their control not unlike what we have witnessed in the last 5 years. Of course, no matter how much you advance to the "inner circle", you never reach the center. There is always another circle.

Of course, Lewis' "The Screwtape Letters" is not to be missed (as well as "Mere Christianity").

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Margot Wooster's avatar

Yes! I’m a big Tolkien fan as well and am familiar with his life story, as well as Lewis. Lord of the Rings is a masterpiece. I’ll give “Hideous Strength” a try, as I can’t remember if I made it that far. Thanks for the advice!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I do remember reading Peretti!

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SB's avatar

I couldn’t sleep when I read Peretti!

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Aloha50's avatar

I'm just here for Benjamin 2 N's comment on Ukraine not taking their dead.

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Juju's avatar
Jun 11Edited

Lmaooooo WINNER! 🏆choked on my coffee with this one.

Bummer that I blocked him a while back and it won’t show in my comments section here. Ah well. My imagination from memory is just as good.

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🌱Nard🙏's avatar

🤣

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And your wish was granted, just like that! Further down. With a "don't look there, look over here".

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Beckadee's avatar

Ha me too. He's the PR firm here for Z.

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Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Aloha😂

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JT's avatar

"...a new coronavirus jab that even works on viruses they haven't discovered yet..."

Huh, what could go wrong?

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Litr8r's avatar

Yes, as the bodies pile up and people line up for cancer treatments because of the last jab. Nice try, Big Pharma.

Hopefully more people have wised up. The useful idiots will believe them, though.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

We really are witnessing survival of the fittest, are we not?

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Jeff S's avatar

I am typing this with the hand what grew out of my forehead after getting the first two shots.

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Peace's avatar

I gotta know what kind of typing speed does this get you by adding in a third hand?

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Jeff S's avatar

WPM is low because I usually use only that one especial hand for typing. At the same time, I use my other two hands to pet the cat and feed myself frozen miniature marshmallows. Er, the orderlies on this floor don't much care for my extra appendage. It doesn't fit into my tailored strait jacket. Who knew?

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Peace's avatar

Sounds like you'll be needing a larger size strait jacket if you keep up with the frozen mini shmallows:)

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Jeff S's avatar

Haha, I hope not. I eat them every day. Started in my teens. Er, I think I read somewhere that they occupy a prominent position in at least one of the major food groups...

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SB's avatar

I did a literal face palm when I read that

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Truthseeker's avatar

Truth.

-The sad truth is that whenever we see positive science news these days, we must assume someone paid for placement

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup that was definitely a key truth nugget for today!

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SM's avatar

How are people still so blind to the truth about vaccines?

Why are they so viciously defensive of them?

Every huge red flag is either totally ignored or completely downplayed, especially SAEs. When your own government is financially gaining off the products they recommend, something is already horribly wrong.

But people will fight to their (premature) deaths to continue filling their bodies with poison?

That level of stupidity is beyond comprehension.

There are no vaccines that don’t cause harm and no proof otherwise, yet they are mandated? ABSOLUTELY NOT for me and my family 💯

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Dianne Denson's avatar

Amen to 'The level of stupidity is beyond comprehension '. 🤔🙄

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BelleTower's avatar

It us not stupidity, it is desperation. Presumably these blind people grew up in the environment I did that was saturated with vaccine propaganda. I learned from earliest ages that deadly disease has been conquered by the marvelous VACCINE, that babies stopped dying and life expectancy bloomed all thanks to vaccines and the science that produced them. What a relief! My mom even reinforced this nonsense with me and she was a person of high discernment. My mom my neighbors my teachers and friends, newspapers and tom brokaw who charmed my family in the evenings with his deep smooth voice. The story of vaccines was so present that I could not question it! An antivax friend of mine once tried to tell me and I politely nodded and ignored everything she said. I had already began to wonder about JFK and watergate but was not ready to let go of the vaccine fairytale which occupied an important place in my life. When COVID happened I was pushed so far out of my comfort zone that I was forced to reconsider my position on pretty much everything! It was painful to realize I’d been submerged deep deep in a horrible lie. I was only able to let go of that lie through the mechanisms of severe stress that was absolutely a divine gift. I can see how I held onto the hope of vaccines as long as I did and I see its consumer disciples as victims of what I’d been prey to for almost 50 years.

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SM's avatar

Thank you for sharing your experience. I’m so glad your journey has brought you to a place of clarity, though it saddens me to think of how you got there.

I’m more referring to people who vehemently refuse to even acknowledge the glaring lies and corruption within the FDA, CDC and the vaccine advisory board. I believed lies about vaccines too, but after a lot of research and firsthand experience with vaccine injuries, I’ve totally changed my stance.

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Sir Jeff Morency, Ph.D.'s avatar

It's the same reason people won't consider Frequency Medicine. They made their decision and they're sticking with it. That level of stupidity is beyond comprehension.

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Skeptical Actuary's avatar

Not that many people are still getting the "vaccine" boosters. And I wouldn't be a bit surprised if the uptake rate that is reported has been exaggerated, or if the people in the nursing homes didn't know what they were getting (same as always).

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shayne's avatar

To admit they made a mistake would be to acknowledge they have a ticking time bomb inside them they have no control over. That would be enough to send some people mad...

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Abiding Dude's avatar

Main stream media is responsible for a TON of bad things.

Mainly owned by jews and funded by Big Pharma, Big Legal, etc...

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