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There seem to be three types of vax pushers in the medical establishment; the gullible, those in denial, and those that are complicit.
Dr. Boz seems to be in the first group, she really thought the vax pushers were acting in our best interests. She's since learned otherwise and has made a 180 deg reversal. Better late then never I guess, but why was she recommending an invasive medical procedure based on zero independent research of her own? However, these people do have a moral compass and come clean once they realize the truth. John Campbell is another one of these.
Those in denial know deep down this is all nonsense, but they go along out of fear. Their kids Ivy League education isn't going to pay for itself after all, and that's at risk if they rock the boat. This is the largest group probably, and these people are contemptible.
Last off are those that are actively complicit and are being paid by pharma to lie (laundered through grants and honorariums). This is a tiny group but they are hugely influential due to their positions in the medical hierarchy.
Bottom line is that you cannot trust the medical establishment to act in your best interests. Mea culpas years after the fact don't cut it. That doesn't mean that one should reject everything told by a doctor, but that you must check it out yourself using critical thought and independent sources prior to going along with pretty much anything they recommend. It's a sad state of affairs.
Yes! Very well stated. Regarding your last 2 lines, I was shocked in 2021 how people I admired and respected at work blindly took the shots and pressured everyone around them to also take them.
I’m talking about engineers and professionals who RESEARCH for a living. They are trained on cost/benefit, risk/reward, scientific method, SWOT and many other critical thinking analysis tools. We know about Group Think, Confirmation Bias and authoritarian influence.
Yet, when I made simple statements like, “everyone should consider their own health to evaluate the risk/reward”, these “smart” people pushed back on me. Soon I stopped discussing it with people. I realized it was not open to debate.
I only found one other person at work who thought like me during this time. The pressure to confirm was the most I’ve ever experienced as an adult and I will never forget it.
Me too! And I'm talking PHARMACISTS! With advanced degrees! I literally have no pharmacist friends any more because of the "heresy" that came out of my mouth and made its way to FB
I blocked my entire family first, before they could block me! Although that was probably when MAGA got going…the jabs were just the mattresses tied to the top of the station wagon…
I have a sister who may be shunning me now over these 2 topics. The other sister did it early. I deigned to tell her don’t take anymore jabs. I just couldn’t live with myself anymore if I didn’t say something. They are both lost. I also revealed I am a conservative leaning, pro life Christian. Neither a dem nor republican but politically marooned. She within 5 minutes texted a link to “right wing Christian churches”. From the usual sources. I’m not even attending a church now because the liberal ones rolled over so quickly and easily. She is an atheist and I have never denigrated that nor pushed my faith on her. I pointed that out. I haven’t heard from her since. I’ll give her a call next week. Our brother, his family and some nieces are like me and both sisters know it but I’m the villain here. How much am I supposed to apologize to stay in relationship with them? I’m over it. I’m here if they need me.
This is the billion or trillion dollar question. And gets right down to Christy's comment. And I don't have firm final answers. BUT ... it is UN centered. There's clues in Event201 like things. And it has to be BIG in order to coordinate the lockdown of an entire planet.
We need some Pin the Tail on the Donkey over this. But I am not holding my breath. People don't want to be exposed and other people down want it admitted to the entire world that they are rank fools and/or in any way complicit. Cover-up City here we come!
I think that comes from the “deferring to experts” thing that seems very prevalent especially among educated people who want and expect others to respect THEIR expertise and to listen to them on matters relating to their field.
But the recommendations for COVID were opposite to all the ones we had before, and those of us in the field knew it. Yet I still had to argue my case with former colleagues with whom I was in touch through Facebook. I couldn't believe the things they said.
“Don’t aspirate, stay home and do nothing until you can’t breathe, it’s fine to vax in the middle of a viral pandemic, and we fixed the problem of the LNPs that caused all other mRNA trials to fail.” What am I missing?
- Cover your face with a paper or cloth covering that we have known don't work for 100 years, at least since the Spanish Flu.
- Stand 6' apart.
- Walk only in this direction in this particular aisle of the store.
- Don't go outside, to the park, to the beach or to the gym; but, do go to the liquor store and strip club.
- Lockdown at home, even tough Western public health has said for the entirety of its existence that lockdowns harm people and are only used by authoritarian regimes for optics and control.
I agree, a lot of that made no sense, but I put it down to the whole propaganda about it being a “novel” virus supposedly unlike anything we’d seen before. They got a lot of people to accept that and used it to say that we had to act differently and take unprecedented measures. Which was of course a huge lie.
In a way--it WAS "novel" in that our government "health agencies" worked with a COMMUNIST COUNTRY to develop "gain of function" viruses (now I know there are some who espouse there are NO VIRUSES in our world--I cannot assign my brain to that "school of thought" though).
Absolutely. If they’d said: ‘it’s a coronavirus - we have anti-viral drugs for it’ there’d have been no panic. They wanted maximum panic of course, to create demand for the shots.
I do wonder, though, if Fauci & the DOD were worried at the beginning that the Chinese scientists might have put something worse than the furin cleavage site in the virus... Maybe they feared their paid GofF workers had gone behind their back & put a lethal element in there. Maybe one day the truth will emerge about the whole sorry CRIMINAL MESS.
The “novel” virus line allowed for so many lies. It scaffolded their carefully constructed evil edifice, whose girders & foundation run so deep, sheathed in its glittering facade.
The “asymptomatic spread” lie, with this “novel” virus, was disseminated, absorbed and used as a predicate for ever more lies —and crimes — all in coordinated manipulation.
“Novel” allowed the lie, “asymptomatic spread”, to become the first floor. The rest was constructed according to their carefully engineered plans.
“Novel” also allowed for the acceptance of equally novel methods of construction.
It was a manifold ploy :
Start with no care for those sick with covid (There’s nothing to be done except to “stay home til you’re really sick, can’t breath & need hospitalization, then come in”, they told the ill, especially elderly and vulnerable. )
> Let the vulnerable get very ill
> Cause the very sick to enter the captured hospital systems into the isolating “care” of compromised Drs and nurses
> promote & incentivize the murderous and novel Remdesivir/ventilation &c protocols
> Create high death statistics to inflate perceived “covid” deaths
> Create more fear & justification for yet more lies & crimes & yet further justify all other “novel” virus measures.
> justify novel forms of control.
Most people were caught in the machinery. Many victims were used as raw building materials themselves in the making of this diabolical edifice.
I know that we all know these things —& more — & all too well!
But your point about the “novel” nature of their bioweapon being the first lie in their ongoing propaganda, and upon & around which all of the crimes against us were built. It’s important to understand !
— But —
Truth is the dynamite for demolition and bunker bomb will destroy deep foundations.
There is an entire city of lies, many such buildings, with systems of intersecting tunnels and yet unknown structures both above and below.
And the people and God’s TRUTH will level it all in time.
Even those of us not in the field could see. I considered shots the biggest consequential decision for me and my family at the time. The data about the terrible trials on experimental gene therapy was there. I just had to look.
To each his/her own; we all get to make our own decisions, right? This is how I view Facebook, because I reach people on FB that I couldn't otherwise: "As for you, what you intended against me for evil, God intended for good, in order to accomplish a day like this—to preserve the lives of many people." - Genesis 50:20
That makes sense. There’s so many things to deal with and we can’t be experts on everything. I researched and drew the line on my and my family taking experimental shots. PLUS we already had the 2020 illness and had immunity. Haven’t been sick since...
Yup, that's also the reason the trades are now able to screw over the laptop class. When a plumber tells someone who's never had a blister that repairing a pinhole leak is a $1000 job, they accept it and pay it. The plumber is the "expert" after all. The thought of picking up $50 in parts/tools at Home Depot, watching a DIY youtube video, and fixing it themselves never crosses their minds.
I'm on both sides of the fence as I'm part of the laptop class but also DIY everything. (And I do mean everything, I was reroofing part of my house a few weeks back.) I do enjoy seeing the trades exact their revenge on the overeducated, but would never in a million years pay their outrageous prices. Two hundred dollars an hour for a plumber? No thanks.
Clif High's last podcast dealt specifically with this. He said there are almost no so called college jobs that out earn (all in costs) a plumber over a lifetime. Even a doctor does not until he is 52.
Been in my 1972 house twenty years and never called a plumber. Ditto for my 1959 house ten years prior to that. This has paid for itself many times over:
Ditto. Replaced the friction wheel in my snow thrower yesterday and about to head out to jack up the pier supported sunroom that needs posts replaced. Still scarred from re-wiring the pump in my septic tank a few weeks ago, but the memory is slowly waning... I tally up the money I save by DIY every year and splurge on something nice for the fam.
The secondary plot of the South Park episode criticizing Disney wokeness was the laptop class now standing in Home Depot parking lots offering their services to anyone that could perform typical maintenance chores. In a complete reversal of the days of contractors heading down there to pick up laborers. Delicious!
Oh I agree just trying to explain why so many people who are otherwise intelligent and able to research didn’t do their homework or just did it partially and relied on directives from the “experts” for the rest.
Intelligent people in this day and age are a different animal than even 100 years ago. People are so dumb. I was not in anyway meaning to put you on defense, if that is how you felt. Always agree with you and love your comments RL.♥
It was a desire to conform in order to be accepted by their “smart” peers, and a severe lack of basic common sense. “Smart” people in particular seem more prone to both.
This is a great point. Broadly speaking, we live in a post-industrial services economy. Which means the majority of people are now an "expert" in something. Like graphic design, writing, analysis, stats, public speaking, etc. And everyone in white collar professional roles (mostly college educated) has been trained to default to relying on "experts" for all sorts of things. "Stay in your lane" is a common critique in the work environment these days. So, laypeople who weren't trained in public health or medical fields just deferred to the "proper" "experts."
Obviously, the "experts" in the medical field got it wrong or flat-out lied and failed to sound a warning. Anyway, I think the fallout from covid (and the unraveling of the affirmative action scam) are going to redefine "expert" in the future and make people much more leery about what any "expert" says about anything. This will be mostly a good thing, IMO, but also has some downside.
Asche and Milgram mind control experiments proved 60% or more will blindly follow a group or authority figure even if they KNOW something is a lie or morally wrong such as being ordered to kill a fellow human. Only 30% at best will consistently use their critical thinking skills or warrior/sheepdog brain to stand up and fight for what they know is right.
Funny that you mention "engineers and professionals who RESEARCH for a living. They are trained on cost/benefit, risk/reward, scientific method, SWOT and many other critical thinking analysis tools" as that's exactly what I do. And yes, I saw it in spades among my peers also.
The difference in my case is that I started as a technician (a long time ago) and learned the trade empirically. It was only after that when I pursued higher education and transitioned into an engineering role. Education further explained the phenomena I had already observed and understood.
Due to this, education helped teach me how to think, not what to think. It's comparable to how enlisted men that go on to officer candidate school (mustangs) often make the best leaders. Sadly, most highly educated people have never experienced this. They've be taught A happens because of B but have never really thought deeply about why it happens, how to apply the knowledge to their practical experience, or challenged their beliefs.
You put that very well. I also started as a tech and worked my way through school with a full time job. I had not thought of that contributing to my though processes too much. But the way you explained it, now I see it too.
As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I've come to the conclusion that college without relevant experience actually makes people dumber (not in an intellectual sense but practically). It can be overcome with work experience, but it puts people at a disadvantage starting out.
You and I were fortunate as we got the hands on experience first, as 47Yinzer mentioned, school helped us understand the theory behind what we already knew.
I had a new engineer ask me the other day who would "train" them to perform some new task. I almost laughed but held it back and explained that's not the way we operate. I would explain to them the goals we need to achieve, give them some possible ideas to get there, but I expected them to go think about it and develop some methods. Then come back to me and we'd go over the pros and cons. I find this to be effective in getting engineers on the path to thinking for themselves.
Your comment reminded me of high school chemistry, specifically stoichiometry. Math was not my favorite subject, and a friend who had already taken chemistry told me, "don't try to figure it out, just follow the formula." Unfortunately, that advice didn't work for me - I had to know how it worked in order to understand what I was doing. Just following the formula caused confusion and made me feel mentally itchy.... hmmm, I see some definite parallels to recent events!
Heh. I had the same problem in college Biology, trying to learn/understand the Krebs Citric Acid Cycle (IIRC). Everyone kept telling me, “Just memorize it!” Well, I couldn’t memorize it if I didn’t understand it, but no one
understood that. I had to change my major (pre-Med) because I just could not embrace this type of (non) learning.
Ditto those of us who were employees, then small entreprenerus first, THEN copped an MBA at night. Learning the theory behind the already-proved practices.
Hubs as well. His company got a gubmint subsidy to have a 100% vaxxed crew. That is what I think. We are talking bad ass Bering Sea fishermen who were lined up like cattle to get shot. Boom!
And sorry to hijack your post, but for those on the fence about other shots, remember that pediatricians are given a progressively increased bonus based on the percentage of their patients fully vaxxed. Remember that fully vaxxed probably means the C jabs too. (The disclaimer is because I thought the CDC included it only for liability protection; couldn’t believe they really wanted it given to our future generations. I was wrong.)
I just looked up the Pediatric Association vax chart—it STILL has covid shots there plus one OR TWO annual flu shots. Children are being systematically poisoned.
I have concluded that almost all oncologist, psychiatrists , and pediatricians are soulless money grubbing scum. They are no value added disciplines without merit as they are conducted. There are other doctors who belong, but the rules of the road for thee 3 disciplines make integrity a job disqualifier. Sorry, but that is what 71 years of life on this planet has shown me.
More or less agreed. Except to add that the de-Christianization of the churches has removed any and all conception of moral instruction. And therefore, so easy to bend to the money grubbing tree of rotten fruit.
As to churches, this view is more or less correct.
People have been pushing back on childhood vaccines for decades. However, thanks to censorship, this doesn't hit the news unless people know where to look. Hopefully, thanks to the C shots, more people are waking up to the truth about the childhood vaccines.
It was a well-executed plan involving government, all types of media, and the trusted medical establishment. Considering this, it’s not surprising that so many people complied. It seemed that the more intelligent and educated they were, the more likely they were to ‘trust the science’. After all.. that’s what you do as an erudite person! We learned that critical thinking on an individual level is almost in a class by itself.
As justifiably negative as I am about these people who have a sudden eureka moment way too late, I can tell you because I'm in the business that doctors and scientists are that brainwashed. Where the gray area is between brainwashing and the malice of ego is tough to say. The bottom line is, they are ultimately sheep and can use their IQ to rationalize anything, and did. And continue to. Dr. Boz was almost certainly acting on her changing economic interests, as all of Medical establishment is.
I'm not sure my local doc is gonna be willing to see the light. He bought 2 brand new $90k vehicles, a $30k motorcycle AND remodeled his "ranch house" during the jab-rollout. My small, rural town's median income is $36k. 🤔
I believe that this is the correct view. And the bottom line in C19 experience is that the ENTIRE WORLD went along as sheep. However, as this C19 Terror Campaign unravels there may be large scale unintended consequences attached to it as to 'beliefs'.
As a retired AF veteran, after 21 years of government programs I learned that their motives were never to my benefit. Anytime they initiated or changed a plan/ policy I always got screwed! For example with healthcare, which was promised for life but now the new policy is at 65 you get kicked over to Medicare. And so it goes, I’ve never trusted anything the government controls to include vaccines!!
We didn’t let our youngest on social media until after high school. By then we saw how it screwed up friends. Now my adult kid doesn’t care for it. It can be a battle if you give it to them and try to take it away. But not so bad if you never give it to them until their old enough to decide themselves.
Same here. Couldn't believe that people I worked with and admired as co-workers were pressuring others. Some still talk openly about how they are "behind" on their "boosters." (How can you be "behind" on something that you don't need and shouldn't be taking b/c it's more harmful than the thing it's supposed to - but doesn't - stop? It's like saying "I'm behind on my cyanide dosage.") Anyway, I've lost some respect for some people, but am thankful that at least the executives at my co. seem to have taken the wiser course and not mandated the shots.
Most people are now BRAIN COMPROMISED because they are CONSTANTLY staring at the "small screens"--it's a biological syndrome that is probably irreversible!!
The Disney World bots are all in a tizzy, because Governor Ron wants to make social media use by kids under 16 illegal in Florida. Apparently the typical teen cannot visit DW without live-streaming their totally awesome experience.
I'm so sad that we allowed this nonsense to penetrate our children and grandchildren's thought processes. Alas....we trusted the "technocrats" - another despicable, lying, greedy pack of WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.
I recently told my wife that we need to take a victory lap. In the Information War, the battle takes place 100% IN YOUR MIND. We were subjected to a relentless information attack, the largest and most comprehensive propaganda campaign in human history, yet we achieved TOTAL VICTORY. We remain physically unharmed and mentally we are 10x more prepared for the next attempt to modify our beliefs or behavior.
absolutely correct, as an RN a lot of my co workers jumped on board, which shocked me as there were no long term studies. OMG and happily posted all over FB how stupid they were. All I could say to them, was in 5 years if your still alive, I might consider it, but doubt that. As viruses mutate.
lost my whole family and half my friends over speaking my mind on facebook over this. have new better friends who value the truth and some of my family now making overtures again, 3 yrs later.
I still struggle to understand how some people hate Trump so much. OK, he looks a bit scammy, but objectively speaking, the economy was great under Trump (lowest black unemployment rate ever, eg) and he stayed out of wars.
Many can't deal with his undiplomatic behavior or any other excuse to hate him. My favorite sport when faced with such Trump Derangement Syndrome people is ask if they can say anything nice about him such as his suits are well made. Most immediately say, "Nope!"
When Fauci & Co. shut down his White House press conference suggestions in Spring 2020 to use ivermectin ("horse paste!") or hydroxychloroquine ("Chlorox beach down your throat!") I knew we were in for a very rough ride as "expert" heath advice turned into 100% TDS.
Place your bets if he admits being by November 2024 having been rolled by the US military prototype deadly contracts for his Operation Warp Speed.
Yes! That's exactly what happened. If Trump was for it, they were against it. This resulted in lots of people dying for no good reason. HCQ is a great example.
Reminds me of how I threw my career experience and knowledge into the trash in 2008, by not reviewing “past predictors of future performance” prior to voting for one of the candidates for President. I fell for all the pretty phrases much to my regret.
Me, as well! I work in a Trauma/Surgical ICU. I work with some of the best surgeons and nurses in our state, which means I work with some of the smartest, stupid people I know. There are a few of us who do not vaccinate AT ALL anymore, there are several who will never do another covid shot again, but there are many who fall for the ‘safe and effective’ mantra and will roll up their sleeves for anything. It saddens me tremendously.
It would be hard to be famous for your medical knowledge, and then have to admit you were wrong. Not to mention the guilt she must feel. Kudos for Dr Boz for coming clean at all.
Drs with far less to lose aren’t speaking up. ‘Pride cometh before a fall’.
OTOH, she's the one who decided to become a public figure "influencer" and to present herself as an expert to the unwashed masses. I don't know about you, but I'd never have the hubris to do that, particularly to pass along info *without checking it out myself*. She made the decision to do that, no one forced her to do it.
I am truly not trying to be preachy, as I have long, long way to go to be anything close to Christlike, but true contrition for Dr Boz would be far more dramatic. Not just admitting she was wrong, but admitting that as an influencer, her wrongness may have contributed to the death and debilitation of otherwise healthy people. She needs to extend the logic of how consequential her wrongness, blindness and advocacy is to other vaccines, to other experts, to other medical advice and government activity, to her entire industry. She seems to be doing this piecemeal, first with the food pyramid, now with one particular clot shot. Will she ever be truly redpilled? Only she can say. Much penance and contrition should be forthcoming, including much of her revenue stream going to the vax injured. That's real contrition, or a start. In the scheme of her peers, she is well above most. But that is not our standard. We are way past sorry at this point. With responsibility comes true contrition, and may she show it. Hopefully this is just a start.
About time many of these medical professionals have come forward. They are far to late and no heroes. This agenda has been planned since the 60's and I am sure much before.
Now that absolutely nobody, not even the most intense branch Covidian, full on Covid Bolshevik terrorists, will take the damn clot shot now. What a time to convert!
She doesn’t get off the hook in my book that easily. She took an oath to “First do no harm” but instead turned that into “First do harm, then investigate after a long time of people suggesting that she do so.” How many people that she influenced have lifetime injuries and/or are 6 feet under, not 6 feet apart? (There’s that special number again!) She was obviously fighting a huge superior ego to come clean. Which is a problem for many medical deities. I am sad & very mad as yesterday a good friend had her celebration of life, dying from the jab after spending TWO MONTHS IN THE HOSPITAL. Not only did the medical mafia kill her, imagine what that bill is. No to Dr. Boz. Too little, too late!
Great work on the Dr. Boz story. Very interesting to see these people coming around to vaxxine injuries.
Will we reach a point where everyone will question The Shots?
There seem to be three types of vax pushers in the medical establishment; the gullible, those in denial, and those that are complicit.
Dr. Boz seems to be in the first group, she really thought the vax pushers were acting in our best interests. She's since learned otherwise and has made a 180 deg reversal. Better late then never I guess, but why was she recommending an invasive medical procedure based on zero independent research of her own? However, these people do have a moral compass and come clean once they realize the truth. John Campbell is another one of these.
Those in denial know deep down this is all nonsense, but they go along out of fear. Their kids Ivy League education isn't going to pay for itself after all, and that's at risk if they rock the boat. This is the largest group probably, and these people are contemptible.
Last off are those that are actively complicit and are being paid by pharma to lie (laundered through grants and honorariums). This is a tiny group but they are hugely influential due to their positions in the medical hierarchy.
Bottom line is that you cannot trust the medical establishment to act in your best interests. Mea culpas years after the fact don't cut it. That doesn't mean that one should reject everything told by a doctor, but that you must check it out yourself using critical thought and independent sources prior to going along with pretty much anything they recommend. It's a sad state of affairs.
Yes! Very well stated. Regarding your last 2 lines, I was shocked in 2021 how people I admired and respected at work blindly took the shots and pressured everyone around them to also take them.
I’m talking about engineers and professionals who RESEARCH for a living. They are trained on cost/benefit, risk/reward, scientific method, SWOT and many other critical thinking analysis tools. We know about Group Think, Confirmation Bias and authoritarian influence.
Yet, when I made simple statements like, “everyone should consider their own health to evaluate the risk/reward”, these “smart” people pushed back on me. Soon I stopped discussing it with people. I realized it was not open to debate.
I only found one other person at work who thought like me during this time. The pressure to confirm was the most I’ve ever experienced as an adult and I will never forget it.
Me too! And I'm talking PHARMACISTS! With advanced degrees! I literally have no pharmacist friends any more because of the "heresy" that came out of my mouth and made its way to FB
Honestly I think Covid ruined more relationships than anything else has!
I know my fb friends size was cut in half because I was outspoken. And I don’t miss any of them. Good riddance .
I did lose a few and than I just stopped posting about it. I’m that crazy conspiracy nut, so be it. My pronouns are I TOLD YOU SO🤷🏻♀️
I blocked my entire family first, before they could block me! Although that was probably when MAGA got going…the jabs were just the mattresses tied to the top of the station wagon…
Covid and politics… I gladly list friends over these 2 topics.
I have a sister who may be shunning me now over these 2 topics. The other sister did it early. I deigned to tell her don’t take anymore jabs. I just couldn’t live with myself anymore if I didn’t say something. They are both lost. I also revealed I am a conservative leaning, pro life Christian. Neither a dem nor republican but politically marooned. She within 5 minutes texted a link to “right wing Christian churches”. From the usual sources. I’m not even attending a church now because the liberal ones rolled over so quickly and easily. She is an atheist and I have never denigrated that nor pushed my faith on her. I pointed that out. I haven’t heard from her since. I’ll give her a call next week. Our brother, his family and some nieces are like me and both sisters know it but I’m the villain here. How much am I supposed to apologize to stay in relationship with them? I’m over it. I’m here if they need me.
So who is behind Covid? Is one of their known goals to "fundamentally transform" western civilization into a replica of Somalia, or Niger?
This does not take advanced STEM-degree thinking, folks.
Every time I get in a discussion with someone my question to them is some group were able to shut down the entire country the entire world who was it?
This is the billion or trillion dollar question. And gets right down to Christy's comment. And I don't have firm final answers. BUT ... it is UN centered. There's clues in Event201 like things. And it has to be BIG in order to coordinate the lockdown of an entire planet.
We need some Pin the Tail on the Donkey over this. But I am not holding my breath. People don't want to be exposed and other people down want it admitted to the entire world that they are rank fools and/or in any way complicit. Cover-up City here we come!
Steve Hirsch in his interview with Tucker said he lost ~95 % of his friends.
Some friends! I don’t dump friends for what they believe, even if I strongly disagree. Friends are more than just the media they’re exposed to.
But then they weren't really "friends ", they were merely acquaintances.
that is called moral courage
also shows who your "real friends" are!
AMEN to that sentiment!
I think that comes from the “deferring to experts” thing that seems very prevalent especially among educated people who want and expect others to respect THEIR expertise and to listen to them on matters relating to their field.
But the recommendations for COVID were opposite to all the ones we had before, and those of us in the field knew it. Yet I still had to argue my case with former colleagues with whom I was in touch through Facebook. I couldn't believe the things they said.
“Don’t aspirate, stay home and do nothing until you can’t breathe, it’s fine to vax in the middle of a viral pandemic, and we fixed the problem of the LNPs that caused all other mRNA trials to fail.” What am I missing?
I spent $58 for a telehealth call, to be told to do “downward facing dog” pose to help with breathing…
- Cover your face with a paper or cloth covering that we have known don't work for 100 years, at least since the Spanish Flu.
- Stand 6' apart.
- Walk only in this direction in this particular aisle of the store.
- Don't go outside, to the park, to the beach or to the gym; but, do go to the liquor store and strip club.
- Lockdown at home, even tough Western public health has said for the entirety of its existence that lockdowns harm people and are only used by authoritarian regimes for optics and control.
I'm probably missing a few...
I agree, a lot of that made no sense, but I put it down to the whole propaganda about it being a “novel” virus supposedly unlike anything we’d seen before. They got a lot of people to accept that and used it to say that we had to act differently and take unprecedented measures. Which was of course a huge lie.
In a way--it WAS "novel" in that our government "health agencies" worked with a COMMUNIST COUNTRY to develop "gain of function" viruses (now I know there are some who espouse there are NO VIRUSES in our world--I cannot assign my brain to that "school of thought" though).
yeah, that was an impressive lie. I'd say, you know it is in the same family as the common cold right? It didn't matter to them.
Absolutely. If they’d said: ‘it’s a coronavirus - we have anti-viral drugs for it’ there’d have been no panic. They wanted maximum panic of course, to create demand for the shots.
I do wonder, though, if Fauci & the DOD were worried at the beginning that the Chinese scientists might have put something worse than the furin cleavage site in the virus... Maybe they feared their paid GofF workers had gone behind their back & put a lethal element in there. Maybe one day the truth will emerge about the whole sorry CRIMINAL MESS.
Excellent point
Yes!
The “novel” virus line allowed for so many lies. It scaffolded their carefully constructed evil edifice, whose girders & foundation run so deep, sheathed in its glittering facade.
The “asymptomatic spread” lie, with this “novel” virus, was disseminated, absorbed and used as a predicate for ever more lies —and crimes — all in coordinated manipulation.
“Novel” allowed the lie, “asymptomatic spread”, to become the first floor. The rest was constructed according to their carefully engineered plans.
“Novel” also allowed for the acceptance of equally novel methods of construction.
It was a manifold ploy :
Start with no care for those sick with covid (There’s nothing to be done except to “stay home til you’re really sick, can’t breath & need hospitalization, then come in”, they told the ill, especially elderly and vulnerable. )
> Let the vulnerable get very ill
> Cause the very sick to enter the captured hospital systems into the isolating “care” of compromised Drs and nurses
> promote & incentivize the murderous and novel Remdesivir/ventilation &c protocols
> Create high death statistics to inflate perceived “covid” deaths
> Create more fear & justification for yet more lies & crimes & yet further justify all other “novel” virus measures.
> justify novel forms of control.
Most people were caught in the machinery. Many victims were used as raw building materials themselves in the making of this diabolical edifice.
I know that we all know these things —& more — & all too well!
But your point about the “novel” nature of their bioweapon being the first lie in their ongoing propaganda, and upon & around which all of the crimes against us were built. It’s important to understand !
— But —
Truth is the dynamite for demolition and bunker bomb will destroy deep foundations.
There is an entire city of lies, many such buildings, with systems of intersecting tunnels and yet unknown structures both above and below.
And the people and God’s TRUTH will level it all in time.
Even those of us not in the field could see. I considered shots the biggest consequential decision for me and my family at the time. The data about the terrible trials on experimental gene therapy was there. I just had to look.
We always looked at the shots as a one-way bridge to a totally uncertain future. So no thanks just on that basis.
Facebook is poison. I refuse to use FB.
To each his/her own; we all get to make our own decisions, right? This is how I view Facebook, because I reach people on FB that I couldn't otherwise: "As for you, what you intended against me for evil, God intended for good, in order to accomplish a day like this—to preserve the lives of many people." - Genesis 50:20
That makes sense. There’s so many things to deal with and we can’t be experts on everything. I researched and drew the line on my and my family taking experimental shots. PLUS we already had the 2020 illness and had immunity. Haven’t been sick since...
Same here. But most of my family bought it. Still do.
Yup, that's also the reason the trades are now able to screw over the laptop class. When a plumber tells someone who's never had a blister that repairing a pinhole leak is a $1000 job, they accept it and pay it. The plumber is the "expert" after all. The thought of picking up $50 in parts/tools at Home Depot, watching a DIY youtube video, and fixing it themselves never crosses their minds.
I'm on both sides of the fence as I'm part of the laptop class but also DIY everything. (And I do mean everything, I was reroofing part of my house a few weeks back.) I do enjoy seeing the trades exact their revenge on the overeducated, but would never in a million years pay their outrageous prices. Two hundred dollars an hour for a plumber? No thanks.
Edit: typo
Clif High's last podcast dealt specifically with this. He said there are almost no so called college jobs that out earn (all in costs) a plumber over a lifetime. Even a doctor does not until he is 52.
Been in my 1972 house twenty years and never called a plumber. Ditto for my 1959 house ten years prior to that. This has paid for itself many times over:
https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/drain-cleaners-augers/50-ft-compact-electric-drain-cleaner-68285.html
Also have this for smaller jobs:
https://www.harborfreight.com/plumbing/drain-cleaners-augers/23-ft-automatic-feed-handheld-electric-drain-cleaner-64063.html
Yes. Especially if the unscrupulous is the norm. Grrrr
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Ditto. Replaced the friction wheel in my snow thrower yesterday and about to head out to jack up the pier supported sunroom that needs posts replaced. Still scarred from re-wiring the pump in my septic tank a few weeks ago, but the memory is slowly waning... I tally up the money I save by DIY every year and splurge on something nice for the fam.
The secondary plot of the South Park episode criticizing Disney wokeness was the laptop class now standing in Home Depot parking lots offering their services to anyone that could perform typical maintenance chores. In a complete reversal of the days of contractors heading down there to pick up laborers. Delicious!
But they have overhead expenses! 😂
If the Founding Fathers deferred to minds they thought had more to give and were smarter than their own, there would never be an America.
Oh I agree just trying to explain why so many people who are otherwise intelligent and able to research didn’t do their homework or just did it partially and relied on directives from the “experts” for the rest.
Intelligent people in this day and age are a different animal than even 100 years ago. People are so dumb. I was not in anyway meaning to put you on defense, if that is how you felt. Always agree with you and love your comments RL.♥
It was a desire to conform in order to be accepted by their “smart” peers, and a severe lack of basic common sense. “Smart” people in particular seem more prone to both.
Right!
I think we’ve all learned (at warp speed...) that many «experts» can be paid to say whatever the purchaser wants them to say.
Indeed 😞
This is a great point. Broadly speaking, we live in a post-industrial services economy. Which means the majority of people are now an "expert" in something. Like graphic design, writing, analysis, stats, public speaking, etc. And everyone in white collar professional roles (mostly college educated) has been trained to default to relying on "experts" for all sorts of things. "Stay in your lane" is a common critique in the work environment these days. So, laypeople who weren't trained in public health or medical fields just deferred to the "proper" "experts."
Obviously, the "experts" in the medical field got it wrong or flat-out lied and failed to sound a warning. Anyway, I think the fallout from covid (and the unraveling of the affirmative action scam) are going to redefine "expert" in the future and make people much more leery about what any "expert" says about anything. This will be mostly a good thing, IMO, but also has some downside.
Doctors are only experts in making money. They don’t know anything about health.
Well said.
Asche and Milgram mind control experiments proved 60% or more will blindly follow a group or authority figure even if they KNOW something is a lie or morally wrong such as being ordered to kill a fellow human. Only 30% at best will consistently use their critical thinking skills or warrior/sheepdog brain to stand up and fight for what they know is right.
Yes sadly true, as has been shown over and over throughout human history 😞
Funny that you mention "engineers and professionals who RESEARCH for a living. They are trained on cost/benefit, risk/reward, scientific method, SWOT and many other critical thinking analysis tools" as that's exactly what I do. And yes, I saw it in spades among my peers also.
The difference in my case is that I started as a technician (a long time ago) and learned the trade empirically. It was only after that when I pursued higher education and transitioned into an engineering role. Education further explained the phenomena I had already observed and understood.
Due to this, education helped teach me how to think, not what to think. It's comparable to how enlisted men that go on to officer candidate school (mustangs) often make the best leaders. Sadly, most highly educated people have never experienced this. They've be taught A happens because of B but have never really thought deeply about why it happens, how to apply the knowledge to their practical experience, or challenged their beliefs.
You put that very well. I also started as a tech and worked my way through school with a full time job. I had not thought of that contributing to my though processes too much. But the way you explained it, now I see it too.
As counter-intuitive as it sounds, I've come to the conclusion that college without relevant experience actually makes people dumber (not in an intellectual sense but practically). It can be overcome with work experience, but it puts people at a disadvantage starting out.
You and I were fortunate as we got the hands on experience first, as 47Yinzer mentioned, school helped us understand the theory behind what we already knew.
I had a new engineer ask me the other day who would "train" them to perform some new task. I almost laughed but held it back and explained that's not the way we operate. I would explain to them the goals we need to achieve, give them some possible ideas to get there, but I expected them to go think about it and develop some methods. Then come back to me and we'd go over the pros and cons. I find this to be effective in getting engineers on the path to thinking for themselves.
Your comment reminded me of high school chemistry, specifically stoichiometry. Math was not my favorite subject, and a friend who had already taken chemistry told me, "don't try to figure it out, just follow the formula." Unfortunately, that advice didn't work for me - I had to know how it worked in order to understand what I was doing. Just following the formula caused confusion and made me feel mentally itchy.... hmmm, I see some definite parallels to recent events!
Mrs. "the Knife"
Heh. I had the same problem in college Biology, trying to learn/understand the Krebs Citric Acid Cycle (IIRC). Everyone kept telling me, “Just memorize it!” Well, I couldn’t memorize it if I didn’t understand it, but no one
understood that. I had to change my major (pre-Med) because I just could not embrace this type of (non) learning.
Ditto those of us who were employees, then small entreprenerus first, THEN copped an MBA at night. Learning the theory behind the already-proved practices.
Hubs as well. His company got a gubmint subsidy to have a 100% vaxxed crew. That is what I think. We are talking bad ass Bering Sea fishermen who were lined up like cattle to get shot. Boom!
And sorry to hijack your post, but for those on the fence about other shots, remember that pediatricians are given a progressively increased bonus based on the percentage of their patients fully vaxxed. Remember that fully vaxxed probably means the C jabs too. (The disclaimer is because I thought the CDC included it only for liability protection; couldn’t believe they really wanted it given to our future generations. I was wrong.)
I just looked up the Pediatric Association vax chart—it STILL has covid shots there plus one OR TWO annual flu shots. Children are being systematically poisoned.
And the covid vax is STILL UNDER EUA. How can they add that to the childhood vax schedule???😡😡
I have concluded that almost all oncologist, psychiatrists , and pediatricians are soulless money grubbing scum. They are no value added disciplines without merit as they are conducted. There are other doctors who belong, but the rules of the road for thee 3 disciplines make integrity a job disqualifier. Sorry, but that is what 71 years of life on this planet has shown me.
Roland, I agree. Pediatricians are the most evil specialty.
they did not exist before vaccines.
Never take a child to a pediatrician .
More or less agreed. Except to add that the de-Christianization of the churches has removed any and all conception of moral instruction. And therefore, so easy to bend to the money grubbing tree of rotten fruit.
As to churches, this view is more or less correct.
https://rumble.com/v4e61vz-unchristian-christianity.html
Have you seen the change in number of recommended childhood vaccines? It’s absurd! Annual flu shots for children? Why is no one pushing back on this?
People have been pushing back on childhood vaccines for decades. However, thanks to censorship, this doesn't hit the news unless people know where to look. Hopefully, thanks to the C shots, more people are waking up to the truth about the childhood vaccines.
It was a well-executed plan involving government, all types of media, and the trusted medical establishment. Considering this, it’s not surprising that so many people complied. It seemed that the more intelligent and educated they were, the more likely they were to ‘trust the science’. After all.. that’s what you do as an erudite person! We learned that critical thinking on an individual level is almost in a class by itself.
As justifiably negative as I am about these people who have a sudden eureka moment way too late, I can tell you because I'm in the business that doctors and scientists are that brainwashed. Where the gray area is between brainwashing and the malice of ego is tough to say. The bottom line is, they are ultimately sheep and can use their IQ to rationalize anything, and did. And continue to. Dr. Boz was almost certainly acting on her changing economic interests, as all of Medical establishment is.
I'm not sure my local doc is gonna be willing to see the light. He bought 2 brand new $90k vehicles, a $30k motorcycle AND remodeled his "ranch house" during the jab-rollout. My small, rural town's median income is $36k. 🤔
That says it all. May God have mercy on his soul, for we will not!
Follow the money! The medical industry is rotten with greed.
As the late Charlie Munger used to say, "Show me the incentives and I'll show you the outcome."
I believe that this is the correct view. And the bottom line in C19 experience is that the ENTIRE WORLD went along as sheep. However, as this C19 Terror Campaign unravels there may be large scale unintended consequences attached to it as to 'beliefs'.
As a retired AF veteran, after 21 years of government programs I learned that their motives were never to my benefit. Anytime they initiated or changed a plan/ policy I always got screwed! For example with healthcare, which was promised for life but now the new policy is at 65 you get kicked over to Medicare. And so it goes, I’ve never trusted anything the government controls to include vaccines!!
We didn’t let our youngest on social media until after high school. By then we saw how it screwed up friends. Now my adult kid doesn’t care for it. It can be a battle if you give it to them and try to take it away. But not so bad if you never give it to them until their old enough to decide themselves.
Same here. Couldn't believe that people I worked with and admired as co-workers were pressuring others. Some still talk openly about how they are "behind" on their "boosters." (How can you be "behind" on something that you don't need and shouldn't be taking b/c it's more harmful than the thing it's supposed to - but doesn't - stop? It's like saying "I'm behind on my cyanide dosage.") Anyway, I've lost some respect for some people, but am thankful that at least the executives at my co. seem to have taken the wiser course and not mandated the shots.
Most people are now BRAIN COMPROMISED because they are CONSTANTLY staring at the "small screens"--it's a biological syndrome that is probably irreversible!!
The Disney World bots are all in a tizzy, because Governor Ron wants to make social media use by kids under 16 illegal in Florida. Apparently the typical teen cannot visit DW without live-streaming their totally awesome experience.
I'm so sad that we allowed this nonsense to penetrate our children and grandchildren's thought processes. Alas....we trusted the "technocrats" - another despicable, lying, greedy pack of WOLVES IN SHEEP'S CLOTHING.
I recently told my wife that we need to take a victory lap. In the Information War, the battle takes place 100% IN YOUR MIND. We were subjected to a relentless information attack, the largest and most comprehensive propaganda campaign in human history, yet we achieved TOTAL VICTORY. We remain physically unharmed and mentally we are 10x more prepared for the next attempt to modify our beliefs or behavior.
Thank you, that's quite encouraging.
absolutely correct, as an RN a lot of my co workers jumped on board, which shocked me as there were no long term studies. OMG and happily posted all over FB how stupid they were. All I could say to them, was in 5 years if your still alive, I might consider it, but doubt that. As viruses mutate.
lost my whole family and half my friends over speaking my mind on facebook over this. have new better friends who value the truth and some of my family now making overtures again, 3 yrs later.
we're all sadder but wiser!
You're lucky that anyone is making friendly overtures again. I have not yet experienced that.
The other thing is how EMOTIONAL some people get over the jabs and also Donald Trump. There’s no use talking sense to them…
Vax Derangement Syndrome? There's a better option for people who live in fear.
I still struggle to understand how some people hate Trump so much. OK, he looks a bit scammy, but objectively speaking, the economy was great under Trump (lowest black unemployment rate ever, eg) and he stayed out of wars.
Many can't deal with his undiplomatic behavior or any other excuse to hate him. My favorite sport when faced with such Trump Derangement Syndrome people is ask if they can say anything nice about him such as his suits are well made. Most immediately say, "Nope!"
When Fauci & Co. shut down his White House press conference suggestions in Spring 2020 to use ivermectin ("horse paste!") or hydroxychloroquine ("Chlorox beach down your throat!") I knew we were in for a very rough ride as "expert" heath advice turned into 100% TDS.
Place your bets if he admits being by November 2024 having been rolled by the US military prototype deadly contracts for his Operation Warp Speed.
"expert heath advice turned into 100% TDS."
Yes! That's exactly what happened. If Trump was for it, they were against it. This resulted in lots of people dying for no good reason. HCQ is a great example.
Reminds me of how I threw my career experience and knowledge into the trash in 2008, by not reviewing “past predictors of future performance” prior to voting for one of the candidates for President. I fell for all the pretty phrases much to my regret.
Me, as well! I work in a Trauma/Surgical ICU. I work with some of the best surgeons and nurses in our state, which means I work with some of the smartest, stupid people I know. There are a few of us who do not vaccinate AT ALL anymore, there are several who will never do another covid shot again, but there are many who fall for the ‘safe and effective’ mantra and will roll up their sleeves for anything. It saddens me tremendously.
I say the very same. I'll never forget it, either.
It would be hard to be famous for your medical knowledge, and then have to admit you were wrong. Not to mention the guilt she must feel. Kudos for Dr Boz for coming clean at all.
Drs with far less to lose aren’t speaking up. ‘Pride cometh before a fall’.
It is good to see she confessed and if we pounce on her, others won't come forward.
If they are truly evil, they won't care and if they truly have a heart, living with the knowledge of being no better than Mengle is worse than death.
I agree and good for her for coming clean.
OTOH, she's the one who decided to become a public figure "influencer" and to present herself as an expert to the unwashed masses. I don't know about you, but I'd never have the hubris to do that, particularly to pass along info *without checking it out myself*. She made the decision to do that, no one forced her to do it.
With fame comes responsibility.
I am truly not trying to be preachy, as I have long, long way to go to be anything close to Christlike, but true contrition for Dr Boz would be far more dramatic. Not just admitting she was wrong, but admitting that as an influencer, her wrongness may have contributed to the death and debilitation of otherwise healthy people. She needs to extend the logic of how consequential her wrongness, blindness and advocacy is to other vaccines, to other experts, to other medical advice and government activity, to her entire industry. She seems to be doing this piecemeal, first with the food pyramid, now with one particular clot shot. Will she ever be truly redpilled? Only she can say. Much penance and contrition should be forthcoming, including much of her revenue stream going to the vax injured. That's real contrition, or a start. In the scheme of her peers, she is well above most. But that is not our standard. We are way past sorry at this point. With responsibility comes true contrition, and may she show it. Hopefully this is just a start.
She would annihilate her revenue stream if she did that. Her career would be over and she’d have to find a new source of income.
Indeed. Looks like YouTube is helping her see the light, as they have canceled her now unapproved opinions! LOL
One wonders why she and those like her aren't on Rumble. It's like continuing to use GoFundMe (awful) instead of GiveSendGo after all we've learned.
And she’s paying a price, literally, since YouTube censored her.
She’s paying the price because she understands the dangers of the jab and she vaccinated her children and loved ones. There’s no escaping the guilt.
I could feel sorry for vaxxers who actually felt guilty about the crime they have participated in. But I haven't met one yet.
Yes I admire her humility because it isn’t easy to admit something like that.
You can just hear her sorrow, especially having her kids jabbed. As a mother I’d be beyond devastated!!!!
Exactly. Imagine having jabbed your own children and then realized the truth. Horrifying.
Truly!
About time many of these medical professionals have come forward. They are far to late and no heroes. This agenda has been planned since the 60's and I am sure much before.
She has skin in the game, and STILL took nearly three years to wake up.
Now that absolutely nobody, not even the most intense branch Covidian, full on Covid Bolshevik terrorists, will take the damn clot shot now. What a time to convert!
She doesn’t get off the hook in my book that easily. She took an oath to “First do no harm” but instead turned that into “First do harm, then investigate after a long time of people suggesting that she do so.” How many people that she influenced have lifetime injuries and/or are 6 feet under, not 6 feet apart? (There’s that special number again!) She was obviously fighting a huge superior ego to come clean. Which is a problem for many medical deities. I am sad & very mad as yesterday a good friend had her celebration of life, dying from the jab after spending TWO MONTHS IN THE HOSPITAL. Not only did the medical mafia kill her, imagine what that bill is. No to Dr. Boz. Too little, too late!
Hey, that inspired a decent meme:
https://patrick.net/post/1342067/2021-10-22-psychology-of-vaxxers-they-are?start=1060#comment-2038971
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She needs to lawyer up. The lawsuits will be forthcoming.