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Blair's avatar

The bar codes are a great idea, but why not just do away entirely with this mail in voting unless you are stationed overseas? No more long drawn out elections with days/weeks of voting, mailed ballots, and all the nonsense - One election on one election day where everyone has to get there butts there to actually vote in person.

Penny North's avatar

Agree. And make it a 24 hour voting day.

Peter's avatar

And we could call it β€œelection DAY”

David Clark's avatar

How about β€œPride in Election” Day just to confuse the LGBTQ nuts?

David A's avatar

The lefts assault on common sense is endless. " LA County officials, the article reported, have themselves pulled $300 million from LAHSA, and built their own department, because the agency had become β€œunwieldy” and β€œmired in various layers of bureaucracy.” The Feds better audit this as well. Dollars to doughnuts, they just wanted to get their own share of the fraud.

Mrs. M.'s avatar

And a Holiday😎

CeeMcG's avatar

I’d rather have Election Day as a holiday over Juneteenth or Indigenous Persons Day!

Fla Mom's avatar

Mrs. M, we don't have national holidays, we have federal (or state) holidays, which give government workers paid time off. Most private employers and many job categories are open for business on most or all of those 10 or so days,:at their own discretion, since our government thankfully cannot tell businesses when they must close (yet, or at least always, since they did during Covid). This would advantage government workers over private sector workers or those who work in hospitals or are first responders (police, fire, EMS). A brief period of early voting, e.g. a few days or up to a week or so, should suffice for the vast majority without compromising election security, as we do in Florida.

Sue Kelley's avatar

There's a huge difference between mass mail in ballots and requested and verified absentee ballots

Karmy's avatar

I work as an election judge in my county and we are hard pressed to get people to be election judges. We are expected to work the entire Election Day from 7 am to 8 pm when the polls close and then we must hand count the ballots to make sure our chain of custody is numerically correct. Same number of ballots given and received. Plus close down the polling place because it’s usually in the HS gym. So that takes us to 9-9:30. That’s an extremely long day and you cannot leave the building. So unless you are going to volunteer to be an election judge during the early morning hours between Midnight and 6 I say there’s enough time for people to vote. It’s not like they don’t know when the day is. Better yet. Make voting day a holiday.

Juju's avatar

Unfortunately for me here in Illinois, no matter how much you apply, if you’re a conservative you get the same response: we are already overstaffed. I’m not working right now and have all the time to give and work hard. Last year I finally reached out to whomever chooses election judges and the guy was short and snippy with me, and told me he doubted I would ever get picked. All because I said I found it strange that an application from a mature, college educated adult with plenty of time was never accepted. The minute you ask questions you are disqualified. They want mostly democrats, complacent and uninformed. I certainly was none of that. 🫀

Katie's avatar

I think you should tell them you are a Democrat. Just get in the door.

Juju's avatar

But I believe they can see my registration with the Republican Party??? Otherwise I would

Donna in MO's avatar

Wow - in our state, you have to have an equal number of R's and D's at every poll. The only glitch in that is that MO does not require party registration, so they just take you at your word. I have heard in the KC election board district there ARE D's who just tell the election board that they are R's so some polls are 100% D's. KC went 80% for Harris, so finding R's to work is a problem. The legislature did pass a law that said we can work in election board areas other than our own, so I COULD sign up to be a poll worker in KC but it's a long drive, many are in sketchy areas, and we already have to be there at 5 AM so I stick to working the polls in my own neighborhood.

Legislature NEEDS to pass 'closed primaries' which would necessitate party registration and then you can only get the ballot for the party you are registered as in the primaries. A lot of D's cross over in August and vote for the weakest R, which then helps them in November. Many of us actually considering it as we have a county exec race where there is one very moderate D and several left wing nut jobs - our R candidate is just a placeholder and will not win in Nov so I may ask for a D ballot just to vote for the moderate D - whoever wins the primary is going to win in the General, and there is only 1 race on my ballot (state senate) where there are 2 R's running and it's a foregone conclusion that one is going to win. But it hurts to think about asking for a D ballot, not sure I can do it.

Juju's avatar

I was told the same thing, which is why I applied. I find it hard to believe they had more than enough Rs around me. This is deep blue country and there aren’t that many active Rs. Most are asleep.

Laura's avatar

Everything you said is correct. I think they make it so long, tiring ard tedious on purpose.

Why can't there be two shifts? What is the reasoning behind that setup?

So you've been there all day. You're tired and exhausted and now you're supposed to count everything. Plus you have to drive it to wherever it's dropped off which adds more time and energy. It's ridiculous. Two shifts are needed. One day.

Donna in MO's avatar

I've been a judge for the last 6 years. We have to be there at 5 AM and then have to close out the poll when they close at 7, so if everything goes smoothly we are out at 8-8:30. Shut down machines and pack away all supplies in a locked rolling cabinet, make sure the chain of custody is correct - place all ballots in locked bags along with the memory stick from the tabulator and then one R and one D deliver to a supervisor judge team of one R and one D who are at a nearby collection point for about 6 polls. When all of the polls have dropped their ballots & stick at that point, the 2 party team drives them to the Election board. We usually have 100% reporting results on the election board website by 9:30 or 10:00.

We've been told we can't leave and have to work the whole day - I think mainly due to if there is a problem at a poll you have the same set of eyes all day, and makes scheduling easier. It IS a long day, but it's not like it's physically taxing, and in Aug and Nov elections it's steady enough that the time goes faster than you realize. April/local ones can drag at times as it's low turnout most of the time, so you have time to stare at the clock. We have to be partnered with a D at all times/positions at the poll, so a lot of it depends on if the D you are working with is a decent person or a nut job you can't wait to get away from.

Laura's avatar

Thank you Donna for the detailed reply. You bring up good points.

Donna in MO's avatar

I do have confidence in our election results, it seems to be a good well thought out system. Of course then there is a question of the voter rolls, but we do require a photo ID.

Tonee norman's avatar

Thank you for your service.

Freebird's avatar

My goodness! I have so much respect and appreciation for you who work at the polls. It sounds grueling to me, I’m way too old for that. So I thank you all, just as I do the folks who are working when I go to vote.

And thank you Donna for a detailed description of the duties.

KelliS's avatar

I've worked the last 4 elections and agree with everything you stated.

Plus, in our county, it's now set-up and tear-down of voting machines. My last service was at a location with 14 machines. Each machine/case weighs about 50 lbs. The "system" to set-up, open/close polls, tear down is an utter PITA. And we're expected to operate as "tech support" as well (fix paper feeds, replace paper rolls, address error messages, etc.)

I've decided never again, unless we go back to paper ballots.

SurvivorWen's avatar

I am an election judge in MN. That sounds about right, but we do have the option of working half days 6:00-2:00 or 2:00-8:00 plus close-out including tying out the # of ballets to the machine tape and to the receipts. (We don’t count the actual vote per candidate!) We do have early voting - which is needed if you are assigned to a polling location that is not your own. We have to have 2 head judges - one of each major party.

Laura's avatar

SurvivorWen You're the first person I've heard of that has worked where you can do two shifts.

I wonder if it's a state requirement? Here in Arizona you have to be there all day.

SurvivorWen's avatar

That could be. I’ve worked almost all elections and primaries since 2021 and we’ve always had at least a few folks coming and going throughout the day.

JudyC's avatar

Thank you, Karmy, for your dedication and service to your community and to our country!

Joseph Kaplan's avatar

I’d go a little further and make it a three day voting holiday. Sunday Monday Tuesday.

CStone's avatar

And pay gubmint employees extra?

NO. WAY.

David Westall's avatar

There is no need for that. Our elections operated just fine before Mail in voting without 24 hour elections.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Way before mail in ballots, Allegheny County in Pennsylvania always had "ballots ready to be counted " in boxes in the courthouse in case Democrats were in danger of losing.

CStone's avatar

So Pennsylvania is completely corrupt then?

Fla Mom's avatar

Penny, in Florida, that would mean that election workers would be on duty for more than 24 hours, because it's the same staff for the entire day, including setup and end of day reporting and breakdown. It's already almost inhumanly long. Most of the workers are civic-minded citizens getting paid almost nothing.

JJ Chester's avatar

I have even suggested 8:00 am Tuesday until 8:00 pm Wednesday. No excuse, I can't get to the pools. And no announcing vote counts until the polls are closed.

Susan Seas's avatar

For most of my adult life, I voted by mail in because we are a military family. On the ballot, (in the small print) it said these votes are not counted unless the race is β€œtoo close to callβ€œ. At some point I had taken a picture of that because even everyone I knew who voted the same way did not know that.

David Nelson's avatar

"These votes are not counted unless the race is 'too close to call,' ...at which time they will be counted just enough times to create yet another statistical come-from-behind miracle."

Blair's avatar

Never heard that before. Maybe they can put it in large print on the ballots now if we still have to allow them as a way to discourage people from voting by mail.

Tom's avatar

This used to piss me off to no end, when I was voting from "the desert."

My third party votes, a "middle finger" to the system, were never counted.

Deployed 9 months out of the year, for 20 years.

JudyC's avatar

Thank you for your service, Tom. Military mail in votes should be counted first, in my book, not last! Few have more right to be counted than those who selflessly serve our country. It infuriated my husband too when he was in the sandbox!

CStone's avatar

Thank you for your service.

But why do a throw-away vote?

Just curious as to what good did you think it did?

Lisa Ca's avatar

I actually remember seeing that too. We get a paper ballott even tho we never asked for one

Tonee norman's avatar

Say ,WHAAAT?

That’s like finding out the line you sign your name,on your checks isn’t actually a line. It is very,very small print saying something certainly not in our best interest. My eyes are too blurry to make it out this morning,even with a magnifying glass,but,I remember being SHOCKED when I learned that,too!

June's avatar

That's right! I'd forgotten all about that. It's been several years since my husband retired, so we've lived in the states since 1999.

LEJ's avatar

I thought the Save America Act was supposed to ban mail-in voting (except for excused Absentees), but last I heard that provision was dropped. And so, apparently, has the entire Actβ€”time to get a new Majority Leader!

A Guy from South Florida's avatar

since they killed the SAA, this is the backup to that.

Marie Flatley's avatar

Thanks for making a step toward arguing that the homeless might not be informed voters. That point is ignored most of the time.

Lori Weintz's avatar

True, although we can't really make "being informed" a requirement for voting. Citizens have the right to vote, informed or not. The problem is, just as in assisted living and memory care centers, the targeted population is largely not mentally capable of getting to the voting booth, or handling a mail-in ballot. If you have to do everything, from securing the ballot to practically guiding their hand while they mark the ballot - they should not be voting. And that's probably a "best case" scenario, because it really does seem that harvesters are filling out and returning the ballots "in behalf" of most homeless people.

Donna in MO's avatar

My mom is in an assisted living facility, and the election board workers actually go to all of the NH and assisted living places to vote those who choose to vote. The residents have to fill out a 'early voting' request form in advance, so they have to be mentally acute enough to do that. Anyone who has filled out that request form can then vote absentee on the date the election board comes out. We have 6 weeks of 'excuse' early voting (health issues, military and those who sign a form saying they will be out of town on election day) and then 2 weeks of 'no excuse' early voting. Ballot harvesting is NOT legal in our state, so my mom has the option of requesting an absentee mail in ballot, or voting on the day the election officials come to her facility, or voting in person on election day. I work as a judge, but sometimes my hubby takes her, but it's just easier to vote at her place since she is in a wheelchair.

Even though ballot harvesting IS illegal, I have heard that the adjacent election board (Kansas City) to us has some shenanigans go on where people who are NOT election board officials do go to nursing homes to 'help' them vote absentee, although it's 80% blue so not like it's going to swing much.

Sue Kelley's avatar

They have that. It's called absentee ballots. You have to make the effort in advance though. It must be requested and validated that you are registered.

NOT the same as mass mail in ballots that started with Covid.

Al Gonzalez's avatar

The bar codes obviously would provide a possible chain of custody trail. Wait, fraudsters don’t want that!

Juju's avatar

And if the homeless are expected to find their way back to whatever address they used to fill out their mail in ballot, why can’t they just make their way to the many voting locations on Election Day? Or even the early voting locations to give them a chance to get there? They aren’t filling them out. I’m sure the left has a handful that did that they can wave around and distract with, but the majority don’t. Usually mail in ballots are reserved for those who apply for them out of necessity, that usually have at least a temporary address to receive one at, or due to disabilities. But it’s never in the numbers CA has.

Me thinks this is why CA mails them to everybody, so that they can get away with this sham.

Fiona walker's avatar

Postal voting is abused by the Muslim community in the UK, with Imams and family heads filling out the voting papers for everyone else. Postal votes should be limited to the military, or those with verifiable physical disabilities or temporary absence. They should also be capped at, say, 5% of the plebiscite. Of course, the current Marxist regime will do nothing about it.

Clara's avatar

I’m shocked, but I’m sure it never happens here πŸ™„

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

Move elections to Sundays. If not, then make Election Day a national holiday.

taxpayer's avatar

In the rest of the world, voting generally is on Sundays.

Cookie Dee's avatar

I would leave it for seniors. Many of my neighbors do not drive and it would be a hardship for them to go stand in line at the polls. What if you are traveling at the time of the election?? Doing business in another state on a job assignment for your company ? There is a need for mail in ballots in some cases. Don’t throw the baby out with the bathwater. Just use the bar codes. I have voted by mail in Orange County CA for several years. They questioned my signature one year and I had to clear it up. Orange County CA uses bar codes on their mail in ballots it seems to work. I get a text when my ballot has been counted. All of CA is not third world thankfully.

Jo Highet's avatar

This opens up the door to permanently solidify massive ballot harvesting at nursing homes and care facilities, which is currently happening now and should be stopped!! It’s a huge problem!

Donna in MO's avatar

In our election board, the election board workers travel to every one of the NH and AL facilities during the 6 weeks of 'excuse' early voting, and any resident who has filled out a absentee request form in advance can vote on the day they come out. And have to show ID. We got my mom a state ID since she does not drive any more.

Laura Scott's avatar

Agreed , but a week or 2 for personal voting would take care of " problems "

m&m's avatar

South Carolina has curbside voting. As an election worker we take the voting to anyone who qualifies- generally can't walk in or stand in line.

DesertDweller's avatar

Yes, that's me. I move around much of the year seasonally, being retired. I go to whatever trouble I have to, to make sure I vote.

Lisa Ca's avatar

And we can know the result same night. Oh ya and show your ID

Diane's avatar

States run the voting for all state and local gov. So states choose the voting methods they use.

Federal elections are often mixed into state elections so we vote for federal positions like congressional candidates right along with local positions.

So if the states really want to, they can keep their old voting methods for the state and local, and partition the federal positions into the compliance method for federal candidates.

The kicker is the states MUST COMPLY with federal rules for federal candidates. This means they have to show their voter rolls. Lots of states don’t want to. And the ballot bar code is going to throw a monkey wrench into things as well. Cheaters can’t have a traceable chain of custody.

Running parallel elections for two separate voter systems is not feasible financially and logistically for most states. So they cry. The mail in ballets with bar codes and required voter rolls cleaned up will help a lot to make sure only citizens vote.

It won’t fix the hanky signature issues, ballet harvesting, and counting till they win problem initially. That will have to be lawsuits and SCOTUS. The bar codes will help prove fraud in court, if they can get it there. Going to be a long hard haul to drag the west coast states and judiciary into compliance, and others. What a mess.

PEL's avatar

And USPS is a federal entity.

Elizabeth Burns's avatar

That system worked fine for decades. I agree!

Deb Nance's avatar

Because people like me retired overseas. (7000 in this city) We are American Citizens and have the right to vote by mail. We send ours DHL and they arrive in two days. We can easily send them in to arrive on election day.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes especially since American citizens even when living abroad still have to file and potentially also pay taxes.

Mary Pat FitzGibbons's avatar

Personally, I prefer to vote absentee. I would like to keep that option.

John A George's avatar

It can work. I had a residence in MI but worked various jobs around the country. I would apply for a mail-in ballot. I'd get a reply at my residence address with paperwork, requiring signature, to be filled out and returned. They would analyze my address/signature and THEN mail my ballot to my residence. Vote, sign the return envelope, mail back. Absentee voting can work, the way they've bastardized the system with no checks and balances will NEVER work.

JudyC's avatar

Mail in balloting works as you describe it, John George, because you’re honest and follow the rules. Trouble is, many folks and local governments aren’t!

CPK (Charles Kalina)'s avatar

Because Democrats are in a position to block that.

Maybe it would be good, but that's the reason "why not".

What they CAN'T block are things the executive branch can do without their approval, like changing USPS rules.

SD Scott's avatar
1hEdited

The truth is, they’re not really mailing many of the ballots they count, anyway. Just stuffing them into drop boxes or not even that.

The bar code (or lack thereof) would reveal this.

Taiga Rohrer's avatar

Yeah bar codes are a step, but not the panacea. I would hardly call Arizona and Colorado "responsible election jurisdictions", maybe more sophisticated at election fraud, lest we forget about Hobbs, Polis, Shrek Kelly, and of course that little middle of the night nitrous oxide boost in the 2020 presidential election. Barcodes tracing mail in ballots is all fine and dandy, but who is controlling the machines, counting, and verifying them is what matters.

Karmy's avatar

Good morning C&C!

Today the Catholic Church celebrates the glorious Feast of the Sacred Heart of Jesus β€” a day that reminds us of how deeply, personally and tenderly Our Lord loves us.

His Heart burns with mercy for sinners, comfort for the sorrowful, strength for the weary and peace for every soul that turns to Him.

What a beautiful day to draw a little (or a lot) closer to Jesus!

Jesus I Trust in You!

TriTorch's avatar

How valuable must your soul be, that the devil mercilessly fights tooth and nail to win it, while the King of Kings laid down His Own Life for it."

Tom's avatar

TriTorch, I'm going to preach to the choir . . .

The Apostle Paul, to the Corinthians: "For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ and Him crucified."

Whatever Church or "church" you attend, pay attention to this.

Know Who Jesus is and what He did. He is God the Son, God in human flesh. He was, He is, He is to come. He died to take the penalty for your sin, and to deliver you from slavery to sin. He rose again on the third day, and sits at the right hand of our Father!

If you believe this, you are my brother or sister! I'll see you in the assembly!

Juju's avatar

❀️❀️

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

It’s so obvious…good reminder

RunningLogic's avatar

πŸ™πŸ™πŸ™

Mrs. M.'s avatar

Amen❀️‍πŸ”₯

PamelaZelie's avatar

Happy Feast Day!

Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

Nithya allocated millions to homeless NGOs run by her socialist cronies. In return, they harvest ballots from drug zombies for her. Evidence is piling up - do we have enough for a case?

Jpeach's avatar

Since Illegals are being deported, the Homeless represent the next best cohort for Election and Financial Fraud. Since LA has nice weather, it’s a homeless destination. Time to end the Homeless Industrial Complex.

Renee Sommers's avatar

I read yesterday on X that the late mail in ballots for Nithya also passed the increased sales tax bill that was on the ballot. I think it went from 9.5% to 10.25-50. It wasn’t passing before the drop.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Problem is in California, that’s perfectly legal. Theyve made a joke of it,and boast about it. And the Feds went along with it.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Drug zombies, like big pharma, who control the media and tell us how to vote.

Carol M's avatar

And who pay zero taxes but drain OUR taxes.

CaliforniaLost's avatar

Who will prosecute out here in California?

Jacquijacq's avatar

There’s NEVER a case.

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

✝️✝️✝️

Forever, O LORD,

Your word is settled in heaven.

Your faithfulness continues throughout all generations;

You established the earth, and it stands.

They stand this day according to Your ordinances,

For all things are Your servants.

β€” Psalm 119:89-91 NAS95

✝️✝️✝️

RJ Rambler's avatar

Thanks again Janice. ❀️

MariaABC's avatar

Thank you, Janice. Your posts bring His light to my day. Blessings to you and yours.

TriTorch's avatar

The Inconceivable Power of Your Encouragement, By Unknown:

As a group of frogs were traveling through the woods, two of them fell into a deep pit. When the other frogs crowded around the pit and saw how deep it was, they told the two frogs that there was no hope left for them.

However, the two frogs decided to ignore what the others were saying and they proceeded to try and jump out of the pit.

Despite their efforts, the group of frogs at the top of the pit were still saying that they should just give up. That they would never make it out.

Eventually, one of the frogs took heed to what the others were saying and he gave up, falling down to his death. The other frog continued to jump as hard as he could. Again, the crowd of frogs yelled at him to stop the pain and just die.

He jumped even harder and finally made it out. When he got out, the other frogs said, β€œDid you not hear us?”

The frog explained to them that he was deaf. He thought they were encouraging him the entire time.

RunningLogic's avatar

Hmmm those other frogs remind me of certain C&C commenters πŸ€”

Mark Livingston's avatar

Hey, wait a minute. How did the frogs at the top explain it to the deaf frog? Did they have a sign language interpreter? Or did they use a text message?

TriTorch's avatar

Body language.

RunningLogic's avatar

Maybe he was able to read their lips (if frogs have lips lol πŸ˜†) once he got closer 😁

Alan Davis's avatar

Ok so Washington state is VBM only and has the barcode I believe. But nobody is comparing it to voter roles. Thats the key is to compare against the dead or mostly dead ☠️!

Ann's avatar

I live in Washington and my son received ballots for years after he registered in Florida (undergrad) and then New York (PhD). He requested to be dropped multiple times and after SEVEN! years he finally was.

David Clark's avatar

My father lived in Florida when he died. Within a few weeks I called the county registrar where he had lived and asked if they were aware of his death which they were. I said, β€œGood. He was a lifelong Republican and I don’t want him starting to vote Democrat.”

Crash Pile's avatar

That gives me great hope that the USPS will implement the bar code and voter list system in the next few months./s

Hank’s Mom's avatar

Same for my Alaskan daughter.

Jo Highet's avatar

No, it’s not about whether the person is real - because these people do exist - it’s about whether the ballots are sent to a legit legal address or not. 9 times out of 10 the person on the voter role exists, but they are not receiving their ballot. Instead, the ballots are sent to an address where they are collected and harvested on their behalf.

Jo Highet's avatar

I should add that there are indeed a lot of voters that DO need to be purged from the voter roles. Many have died yes, many have moved, and many should not have been added to the voter role in the first place - just to name a few.

SD Scott's avatar

Fake names: many copies which only differ by middle initials.

JT's avatar

It seems to me that the real issue isn't the use of bar codes on ballots, it's the "approved voter lists" that the D's are loathe to turn over. Any list of voters can be crosschecked against all sorts of sources...from Social Security roles to ICE catch and release records to grave registrations. That's really what the D's don't want!

Juju's avatar

Precisely. Because if some large counties in Arizona and Colorado are already using ballot envelopes with barcodes, and still those two states have two of the most corrupt voting systems, obviously the bar code is not stopping their cheat.

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

How did our once God fearing Constitutional Republic get to this DEBACLE of "Pseudo" DEMONcracy? The homeless voting 'charade' that you lay out for us to devour, J. C., actually makes me NAUSEOUS. Is THIS the beginning of the end of the "United" States of America??? I will be praying for President Trump's second administration even more arduously than I have been--to remain zealous and devoted to the precepts of our Divinely-inspired U S Constitution and to REVERSE this degenerate trend in our governance.

My HOPE lies ONLY in our Creator God and His righteous ways!!

Lori's avatar

And Pres Trump needs to be aware of these sites via the federal government and shut them down. I am going to post this on Truth Social now.

Carol M's avatar

And one of the bigger problems is this….in California (and some other states) ballot harvesting is legal. So when all these ballots come to the NGO, and the staff votes them (because we all know they do) then how does anyone prove they are illegal ballots?

Plausible deniability has always been the escape and the issue with these evil communists…

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

How LONG has this been going on? Especially in FEDERAL elections?

Carol M's avatar
2hEdited

2012 in California allowed non family members to return ballots. This link gives great information on the trajectory over the years. What is sickening to me is that voting should be treated as a sacred honor to uphold our republic and it has become a manipulated and fraudulent process….

https://www.congress.gov/119/meeting/house/118157/witnesses/HHRG-119-HA00-Wstate-TitusA-20250429.pdf

Richard schoenenberger's avatar

Like your moniker by the way…

I’ve been married to a Sharon for 58 years 😊

Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Good for you, Richard (and for "your Sharon" as well)

Anthony's avatar

"Is THIS the beginning of the end of the "United" States of America???"

The beginning started at least 25 to 30 years ago.

Politico Phil's avatar

A long time ago. Originally, when America was an actual republic, voting was considered a serious responsibility that one had to earn. You had to prove yourself worthy to vote. That generally meant you had to be a productive, married male who owned property and thus had proven himself to be responsible and mature enough to vote on issues that affected the whole community.

"Democracy" is a socialist system that allows the ruling political class to corrupt the entire political process by simply dispensing largess to the voting public and thus "buying" their votes. This is how we got to where we are where every warm body - and in some cases even cold bodies - gets to vote, at least once or perhaps more. It doesn't matter if the voter is a homeless drug addict, a teenage child or even a non-citizen alien, his judgement is considered worthy enough to vote. All of this was predictable.

Voting has ALWAYS been "a manipulated and fraudulent process" as soon as one-person/one-vote became the rule.

Juju's avatar

Maybe that’s where we should start focusing this fight. Instead of cowering when they say β€œevery vote counts!” And β€œyou’re trying to prevent people from voting” we should respond β€œevery vote shouldn’t count and here’s why”. Make them argue their one-person, one-vote logic because then our own logic will be heard too.

Politico Phil's avatar

Thank you Juju! This is the problem. You cannot win an argument when you allow the opposition to SET THE TERMS OF THE DEBATE. The Leftists always win the debate because we allow them to define the terms (I think this is done on purpose as part of the psyops). Voting is NOT a "right". Nor is it a privilege. Voting is a responsibility that must be qualified!

All our arguments and efforts will amount to nothing because the very premise of the political system is based on falsehoods which any of the American founders would immediately recognize. This is why Ben Franklin said "...if you can keep it."

Juju's avatar

We should all memorize what you just wrote and have it ready in any moment.

Yes, they set the terms by caging us in with fear of rebuke and shame for our views.

Lori's avatar

The Dems sure are doing all they can to protect their cheating and fraudulent acitvities, wowl!

VikingMom's avatar

Same voting scam is run in nursing homes, including memory care centers. I had my mother's mail sent to me so I simply destroyed her ballots when they arrived, even though it would have been easy to have filled it out and had her sign it, which she would have done. But I would not do it, even though I knew which candidates she would have supported. (The State of Washington would not allow me to cancel her registration, even when her doctor declared her to be "mentally incompetent to conduct legal or financial transactions".)

The nurse at her memory care facility had no such scruples and laughed about "helping" residents fill out their ballots. Said she had done it at every place she had ever worked...

Becky's avatar

The State didn’t allow a cancellation of registration? I didn’t know they could even do that. Especially with a doctor’s statement. But cheating here in Washington is, I’m sure, real, and they need to keep as many ballots as possible circulating out there.

VikingMom's avatar

No, they would not allow me to cancel her registration, even with a POA and the letter from her doctor. They said the only way it could be done would be to bring her into the office and have her request it herself. But taking her anywhere was a huge ordeal so I simply tore up her ballots instead. I think the system is set up so that nursing home staff can do exactly what they did with all the ballots that arrived at their facility!

Becky's avatar

I feel like that is a strategy to gain power and control by those infesting our corrupt government. Make something a huge ordeal, and people will just give up. Like returning a defective item to a store or website. Nah, don’t have time. Except with government, in this case, we don’t just eat the loss, we forfeit our sacred vote. Every illegitimate vote cancels a legitimate one.

VikingMom's avatar

Exactly!! And the fact that most families have no idea that their parent's ballot is being filled out allows the practice to continue. Wasn't it in Wisconsin in 2020 that there was 100% voter participation from nursing homes across the state?

In my case, I would have reported it, but did not know the full names of the specific residents and had no way to contact their family members. I could have made an accusation against the nurse, but without a corresponding complaint filed by the family it would have gone nowhere and I would have made an enemy of the person who was in charge of my mother's medical care! The nurse was a competent clinician, but also a vocal Leftist so I have no doubt which way she "helped" the residents fill out their ballots! And sadly, many of them never had visitors so maybe their families lived out of town or they didn't have anyone who would have cared one way or the other.

SD Scott's avatar

Chances are someone still voted on her behalf. Even without that ballot.

VikingMom's avatar

No, I did check the state database to verify that no ballot in either of my parents' names was received...I even checked under my mother's maiden name, just in case!

SD Scott's avatar

You’re very conscientious.

VikingMom's avatar

Thank you! That's a much nicer descriptor than saying that I am "hopelessly jaded and cynical"! 🀣🀣🀣

Bitsy54's avatar

That’s the difference between the old β€œmoral citizens” and the new invaders….we don’t lie and cheat even when no one is looking.

Lynne Ferreira's avatar

Truth! Same with my Dad.

Crash Pile's avatar

β€œHelping” is what vote.gov euphemistically calls β€œeducating”

Oma's avatar
3hEdited

Maybe we could just vote through Amazon! They are reliable, same day delivery and I do get a picture of every order delivered to my door. And…I can pull up every order I’ve ever made; the date when it was made and if I want to see the invoice! I can’t even mail a gift card through the USPS with confidence that somewhere along the route from drop off to delivery my gift card has not disappeared. I vote for Amazon LOL!!

Kennedy's avatar

You jest but ain't it the truth? Think about how the market has solved all sorts of problems with security and efficiency. Your average teenage hacker could build a system better than the city full of bureaucrats, even assuming they weren't corrupt in the first place building in bias on purpose.

Crash Pile's avatar

The fundamental purpose of bureaucrats is bureaucracy. Not solving, not creating, not efficiency, not speed, definitely not cost saving.

TriTorch's avatar

"The bureacracy is expanding to meet the needs of the expanding bureacracy."

'Bureacracy' is also a crazy hard word to spell, which fits right in their with its primaru mission of creating tangled to the hilt spaghetti codes and regulations so that everyone is always guilty of something.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Amazon has it's own problems. We've seen packages asking the road side, delivery ppl who can't read the whole address, been getting the new neighbors packages for months now and you can't contact anyone to fix the tool map pin.

Oma's avatar

The person ordering needs to do the contacting to correct their delivery information. But I do understand and if you are delivering the package to your neighbor, request delivery fee lol.

taxpayer's avatar

I guess Amazon is fairly reliable, but last week I received deliveries at my front door intended for two different apartment buildings around the corner.

Oma's avatar

Yuk! That is a big aggravating issue. I hope your driver learns the route better with a paper map!

Juju's avatar

πŸ€” I never stopped to consider what other addresses experience. Our single family home in a suburban neighborhood has only experienced inaccurate delivery three times since 2012. Once a neighbor’s box/bag came to us and twice they delivered ours to different houses. All of us had very similar numeric addresses just off by one digit so I can understand how it might happen. But that’s a pretty darn good track record for 14 years, and we order something almost every stinking day and have subscribe and save too. I mean, we have ordered a LOT all those years.

But it never occurred to me how apartment complexes or townhomes or condos could experience different results. A lot more opportunity for mistakes!

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

"fish pizza"

NEXT BAND NAME 🀣πŸ’₯πŸŸπŸ•

TriTorch's avatar

Uhh, food for thought: one should maybe never use the word 'pizza' in a title, it's a signal for pedophiles that the person utilizing that term it is one.

Ya know, these freaks: Jennifer Garner Reads satanic Pedophile Secret Pizza Party Book to School Children Millstones Needed: https://old.bitchute.com/video/rgs2E6UZCqft [27mins]

RJ Rambler's avatar

I refuse to bow to their language barriers!

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

YES. And we're taking back the rainbow too! πŸ™

TriTorch's avatar

Admirable. But you will also attract the wrong type of people and attention and assumptions will be made.

Macaulay Culkin was a victim and named his band 'The Pizza Umderground', and his videos are filled with hellish imagery. Not something one would want to be associated with.

More on this:

Aerosmith, The Song 'Pink', and the Adrenachrome Connection: https://old.bitchute.com/video/Gjo2xPRgyQSv [11mins]

The critical importance of prudence runs throughout the Book of Proverbs and speaks to who you associate with either by language or proximity which are essentially the same.

"Render unto Caesar that which is Caesar's"

Tom's avatar

I won't let them ruin it for me.

There's plenty of wickedness to grieve. If I partake in a slice, with or without dead minnows (anchovies,) this has nothing to do with the wicked.

I resolve to give thanks, though.

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

As a pizza purist, anchovies and pineapple are forbidden in my presence πŸ˜‰

TriTorch's avatar

Pinapple and pizza are a match made in the vicinity of heaven! We can never be friends now for you have shown your true colors Doc, and they’ve been found wanting =’(

Tom's avatar

Why don't we just call it something else, but not "pizza" and then let people enjoy their non-pizza?

Everyone can be happy, then.

TriTorch's avatar
2hEdited

I’m down like a clown in crust, sauce, & cheese town.

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

YES. I was encouraged by the introduction of the term 'flatbread,' but it hasn't seemed to have caught on...

Laura's avatar

πŸ˜‚ Yes, pineapple and ham are a yummy combination.

Laura's avatar

Yes, but just like the hijacking of the word gay and the rainbow we should be able to say pizza.

But I do get your point.

shayne's avatar

Anchovies anyone!!!! Yum!

Juju's avatar

There’s a band name β€œThe Radical Anchovies”

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

TriTorch suggests not using the word 'radical' 'cause it only encourages them πŸ€ͺ

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

I meant the radicals, not the anchovies 😎

RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah we should definitely not be encouraging the anchovies either though πŸ˜³πŸ˜†

Jeffrey N. Gratton's avatar

All over the East Village (NYC) in the 1990's you'd see flyers for a band called, "Lobster of Hate"

Ol' Doc Skepsis's avatar

As a native New Englander, I would love to eat a lobster of hate 😎

shayne's avatar

Happy Friday everyone!

NoVA mom's avatar

Hello hello! Happy steamy Friday! β˜€οΈπŸ₯΅

Dr Linda's avatar

Same in Mid-MO. Actually yesterday was brutal. Today might be glorious. We’ll see. πŸ™ƒ

shayne's avatar

Morning N... yes, steamy alright.

RunningLogic's avatar

Here it’s somewhat cooler after several brutally hot and humid days! Hope you get our nicer weather soon!

Juju's avatar

We had sheets of rain for several hours at a time for the past two days. Our in ground pool actually overflowed! My husband had to backwash it out after work yesterday in the pouring rain, poor soul, after working 12 hours. (Before you tsk tsk me for not doing it myself, our backwash hose is an actual fire hose that I can barely lift up. πŸ˜† All the pool industry supplied hoses got holes in them after just one or two uses so we retrofitted to use a fire hose. We are going on 7 years? I think, with that hose - and he had to duck tape a spot this year for first time. Best solution ever … unless you have three days of rain… Lol)

Anyway, nice and cool here for now. 65 and steady cool breeze.

RunningLogic's avatar

Lots of rain here too but mostly in the evening and overnight.

That pool issue doesn’t sound like fun but I definitely don’t blame you for not doing it yourself, that seems very difficult to manage!

Juju's avatar

Aaand….the little issue of first having to empty the skimmer basket after that kind of rain, and I have a deathly serious arachnophobia problem. 🀣 They love to sit atop the leaves and stuff just waiting for that lid to be lifted, big ones. Uh - noooooo. I’d let my entire property flood before I’d ever empty that thing πŸ˜†

RunningLogic's avatar

πŸ€£πŸ˜†

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NoVA mom's avatar

Thanks - I’ll take it! Daughter’s baby shower tomorrow…looks like 88Β° πŸ˜…

Margot Wooster's avatar

It sure is steamy in OK! Thank the Lord for air conditioning!!

NoVA mom's avatar

Amen to that! I grew up without it…ugg

Tom's avatar

"California’s Deputy AG Michael Cohen told a federal court that β€œit’s just difficult to overstate the disruption that this will cause to election administration.”"

So, Michael Cohen's metric is "minimal disruption" and not election integrity?

DO YOUR JOB, Michael.

If it's too hard, Californians should find someone else. If they won't, it's because they WANT to cheat.

Crash Pile's avatar

It’s difficult for Michael to overstate it because his state’s election administration is so hopelessly disrupted now that it is worse than every other electoral jurisdiction on the planet. He can’t conceive of counting in less than a month what other nations do in a day. β€œDifficult” being the operative word.

John Wygertz's avatar

You know it's a big story when the NYT quotes BOTH Portlands.

MattD's avatar

Hahahahahahaha πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘πŸ‘

David Roberts's avatar

Yeah this homeless voting thing: Bass wanted Spencer disqualified from being an LA citizen because his home burned down, but literal homeless people with NO address are encouraged to vote. πŸ€¦β€β™‚οΈ