I'm guessing that the "peace treaty" he's talking about consisted of Ukraine saying "get off our land and give us back Crimea and also pay us compensation" and Russia was like "lol no".
And likely Putin's demands to Ukraine to "Demilitarize, appoint our governor, can't have any army, we run your affairs, you're ours now" is acceptable to Ukrainians?
You asked (apparently sarcastically) "Putins demands are acceptable to Ukraine now?". I pointed out that it's a self-answering question; if they had been acceptable, Ukraine would have accepted them.
The Ukrainian peace plan would have enabled real peace and stop violations of around 6 different treaties and agreements and the largest war in Europe since 1945.
Thank you - I understand where you are coming from now….. however, not really much, in the way of a meaningful negotiation, his 10 point plan, is it?
Certainly Zelensky is intelligent enough to realize that his proposal would NEVER be acceptable to Russia.
Offered nothing in the way of allaying the concerns Russia had/has which had initiated the conflict, does it ?
A NATO-free buffer zone?
I am sure that, for example, a China-Mexico relationship that brought military bases and troops and weapons into Mexico would not sit well with the USA, wouldn't you think ?
Putin lost any right to determine a "nato free buffer zone" when he invaded Ukraine in violation of multiple different treaties with the intent to rebuild the Russian and Soviet empire.
Ukraine wasn't eligible to join nato in 2022 because of the previous Russian invasions Putin ordered. Mission accomplished.
Putin would never accept Zelenskyy's peace plan.
Zelenskyy never would have accepted Putin's, either.
If you would swap Ukraine with Mexico and Russia for the USA I wouldn't blame the Mexicans for wanting to put Chinese or Russian bases along the northern border. After all, we did invade them multiple times, commit horrific genocides, dominate them for around 80 years, and deny they have a right to exist.
Due to Putin's war back firing 2 more nations joined Nato and one of them was a nation Putin claims-Finland and Sweden.
Nato actually expanded because more people realized being "neutral" wasn't going to work with a tyrant on the war path.
I posted where Russia rejected the Ukrainian peace proposal. And as a reminder, it was after the wildly successful Ukrainian offenses in 2022 that were the largest defeat of a Russian land army since ww2.
A lot of bloodshed would have been avoided with no bloody battle for bakhmut, avdiivka, and the death of hundreds of thousands of Russian men.
I get it, facts are hard for you and right is wrong, wrong is right, and covid vaccines are good and healthy.
The war in Ukrainian would never have started if it wasn’t for Biden. They had a peace treaty with Russia ready to sign until the U.S. intervened.
There was never any peace treaty.
Besides, Ukraine submitted a peace treaty but Putin refused.
Please help your readers understand who you are, where you come from, something please to help us make sense of you. Are you AI created?
I've been here since probably late 2021, before the war.
Opposing opinions aren't always some AI bot.
Please, provide a link to just ONE source for this information , a "Putin refusal", would love to see this, BTN's.
I'm guessing that the "peace treaty" he's talking about consisted of Ukraine saying "get off our land and give us back Crimea and also pay us compensation" and Russia was like "lol no".
And likely Putin's demands to Ukraine to "Demilitarize, appoint our governor, can't have any army, we run your affairs, you're ours now" is acceptable to Ukrainians?
"And likely Putin's demands…"
In other words you just made that up like you always do. Why ignore people who ask you to provide sources?
I listed sources below.
Go cry in your safe space :)
If it was, there wouldn't be a war still.
Surrendering to a tyrant worked out so well for them in the 20s.
At the beginning of the 30s they suffered a genocide at the hands of moscow.
If people here just accepted the mandates there wouldn't be any need of lawfare or costly legal battles.
You asked (apparently sarcastically) "Putins demands are acceptable to Ukraine now?". I pointed out that it's a self-answering question; if they had been acceptable, Ukraine would have accepted them.
If anyone here was faced with those same demands I wouldn't expect them to take it either.
And a lot of people didn't and said no to Biden..rightfully so.
lol no, love it
Pretty much ;)
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/what-is-zelenskiys-10-point-peace-plan-2022-12-28/
Ukraine's peace plan
Russia rejects.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/kremlin-says-ukraine-must-accept-realities-there-be-peace-2022-12-13/
The Ukrainian peace plan would have enabled real peace and stop violations of around 6 different treaties and agreements and the largest war in Europe since 1945.
Thank you - I understand where you are coming from now….. however, not really much, in the way of a meaningful negotiation, his 10 point plan, is it?
Certainly Zelensky is intelligent enough to realize that his proposal would NEVER be acceptable to Russia.
Offered nothing in the way of allaying the concerns Russia had/has which had initiated the conflict, does it ?
A NATO-free buffer zone?
I am sure that, for example, a China-Mexico relationship that brought military bases and troops and weapons into Mexico would not sit well with the USA, wouldn't you think ?
Putin lost any right to determine a "nato free buffer zone" when he invaded Ukraine in violation of multiple different treaties with the intent to rebuild the Russian and Soviet empire.
Ukraine wasn't eligible to join nato in 2022 because of the previous Russian invasions Putin ordered. Mission accomplished.
Putin would never accept Zelenskyy's peace plan.
Zelenskyy never would have accepted Putin's, either.
If you would swap Ukraine with Mexico and Russia for the USA I wouldn't blame the Mexicans for wanting to put Chinese or Russian bases along the northern border. After all, we did invade them multiple times, commit horrific genocides, dominate them for around 80 years, and deny they have a right to exist.
Due to Putin's war back firing 2 more nations joined Nato and one of them was a nation Putin claims-Finland and Sweden.
Nato actually expanded because more people realized being "neutral" wasn't going to work with a tyrant on the war path.
What a dolt. Russia and Ukraine worked on a peace treaty in MARCH '22, but Johnson told Zelensky not to sign it.
And linking corporate media…lol.
There was never any peace plan.
By the way, feel free to get the Putin vax. He's gotten it multiple times and says it's safe and effective. Don't shy away, it's Russia's greatest!
Nevermind the young people dropping after getting it.
Stop lying Ben You’re making more of a fool of yourself than usual.
Hold up, you're saying Putin didn't get the shot? He didn't claim it's the best?
🦗🦗🦗
You are a troll Benjamin.
Facts are hard for folks to understand when they are conditioned to think everything America is bad.
Yes, you're a troll Benn
Where?
Where am I wrong?
You’re becoming a fucking liar, Benn.
See above.
I posted where Russia rejected the Ukrainian peace proposal. And as a reminder, it was after the wildly successful Ukrainian offenses in 2022 that were the largest defeat of a Russian land army since ww2.
A lot of bloodshed would have been avoided with no bloody battle for bakhmut, avdiivka, and the death of hundreds of thousands of Russian men.
I get it, facts are hard for you and right is wrong, wrong is right, and covid vaccines are good and healthy.