First of all Hamaz started the war, and Hamaz was voted in by the Palestinian people. Hamaz, being the cowards they are, hide in high population areas and hospitals. They have built an intricate tunnel structure all throughout Gaza where they hide. They care less for their people than Israel does. They use them as shields. Israel willing…
First of all Hamaz started the war, and Hamaz was voted in by the Palestinian people. Hamaz, being the cowards they are, hide in high population areas and hospitals. They have built an intricate tunnel structure all throughout Gaza where they hide. They care less for their people than Israel does. They use them as shields. Israel willingly gave up the Gaza Strip in order to make peace with the Palestinians, but the Palestinians don’t want peace. They have continually bombed Israel over the years. Thank God for the Iron Dome!
First, Hamas didn't start the war, it started in 1948 (edit: actually even earlier with Zionist extremist attacks in the area. Read about the King David Hotel bombing among other things). There is history here.
Second, those elections were two decades ago, a huge number of Gazans weren't even born. Plus your argument is a non-sequitur. By your logic, US Elementary school students are legitimate military targets since George Bush's election (twice) led to the invasion of Iraq and hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Third, what Hamas has done to hide behind civilians is irrelevant. Evil is evil. If bad guys hide behind civilian you don't get a moral free pass to kill the civilians to get to them. That's the reason we don't just blow up the building when bank robbers hold hostages. We claim to follow the teachings of Christ, show me where there's an exception for killing innocents when you don't like the people behind them. But then we get back to point #2, they are not innocent in your mind and they have it coming. That's barbaric thinking whether you admit it or not.
So again, what makes you tick? Are you Jewish, a Zionist Christian, or just a boomer that hasn't updated your opinions in forty years despite the world changing? Not trying to be rude here, but you have constructed a worldview that justifies the wholesale slaughter of civilians. I'd like to know why.
Edit: I've made it very clear what makes me tick, it's Christ's teaching that we be kind to others. I'd like for other to do the same rather than tortured logic that somehow civilians have it coming. That's an indefensible position so something is affecting your thinking.
No, I don’t believe that all the Palestinians should be wiped off from the face of the earth unlike many of the Palestinians, Palestinian supporters in this country, and around the world who would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth.
Yes, there is a lot of history concerning Israel beginning in the book of Genesis. There was never a Palestine until AD 70 with the destruction of the Jewish temple by Roman Emperor Hadrian. He denied the Jews access to their ancient capital, Jerusalem, and renamed it Aelia Capitolina. He also erected a temple to Jupiter on the sacred ground of the Temple Mount. Then he renamed Israel after their Biblical enemies the Philistines. He called it Palaestina (Palestine). After the Second Jewish Revolt, Hadrian erased all traces of Jewish identity from the land. My source is Israel Always by Christopher J. Katulka. Another great resource is From Time Immemorial The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over Palestine by Joan Peters. Of course the greatest resource is the Holy Bible. God gave that land to Israel. It’s an everlasting covenant. So that gives away that I am a Zionist. I am also a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. There is not an easy fix to this war, but I know from God’s word that He has a plan and He will see it through to the end. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Hebrews 13:8).
I agree with the historical parts, though I would contend that God took away the right to the land when Israel broke covenant by refusing to recognize their Messiah (which is consistent with them not getting it back for over 1000 years). That does not, however, mean that I don't support the right of modern-day Israel to protect their own peace and security against war and terrorism - just that their right to that area of land today is given by humans rather than by God.
No doubt even that would make me a "Zionist" to many pro-Hamas advocates...
He didn’t break His Covenant with them, because He is the one who instituted it. It is also an everlasting Covenant. If God would break His Covenant with Israel, then what is to say He wouldn’t break His Covenant with us when we disobey. I can dare say that not one of us live sinless lives.
God still has a plan for Israel. Read Romans 9-11 especially 11.
Because that Covenant had terms that it would last so long as Israel kept all of his Commandments. And he gave them a ton of chances to sign back on after breaking it repeatedly. As it is written, the Law was a teacher to show us that perfection of ourselves is not possible, which is why the new covenant is a covenant of grace, which he promises freely to everyone on only one condition - that they "remain in him".
Abraham was saved by grace through faith (Genesis 15:6). This was reiterated in the New Testament (Galatians 3; Acts 3:25; Romans 4:1-16, 9-11; Hebrews 6:13; James 2:21,23). The law also showed the Israelites how sinful they were, and that they weren’t able to keep it perfectly. The Old Testament pointed to the Messiah, and the New Testament revealed Him. The New Covenant was spoken of in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament (Genesis 3:15; Jeremiah 23:5-8, 31:27-40; Hebrews 10; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc). Grace means unmerited favor. It is not something that we can earn. It is a gift of God (Ephesians 2:8-10). God doesn’t give a gift and then take it away if we don’t remain in Him. The Holy Spirit is given when we are born again. He is our guarantee that we belong to Him (EPH 1:13-14). No believer is 100% faithful all of the time. We are still sinners in need of God’s grace every day moment by moment. Thank God that when we do sin, we have a great High Priest that we can go to boldly in our time of need. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all righteousness (1John 1:9). God promises the New Covenant to all who believe in Him! “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16).”
IMO Jesus death was retroactive, so all faithful Israelites were saved by grace, they just didn't know it. Salvation isn't something that God "takes away" due to our failure, so much as that we (can) throw it away if we turn our backs on him (though, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to... but clearly it is possible, Heb. 6:4-6).
First of all Hamaz started the war, and Hamaz was voted in by the Palestinian people. Hamaz, being the cowards they are, hide in high population areas and hospitals. They have built an intricate tunnel structure all throughout Gaza where they hide. They care less for their people than Israel does. They use them as shields. Israel willingly gave up the Gaza Strip in order to make peace with the Palestinians, but the Palestinians don’t want peace. They have continually bombed Israel over the years. Thank God for the Iron Dome!
https://www.frontpagemag.com/the-idf-takes-more-steps-to-warn-civilians-away-from-combat-areas-than-any-other-military/
https://www.frontpagemag.com/what-percentage-of-those-killed-by-the-idf-in-gaza-were-civilians/
First, Hamas didn't start the war, it started in 1948 (edit: actually even earlier with Zionist extremist attacks in the area. Read about the King David Hotel bombing among other things). There is history here.
Second, those elections were two decades ago, a huge number of Gazans weren't even born. Plus your argument is a non-sequitur. By your logic, US Elementary school students are legitimate military targets since George Bush's election (twice) led to the invasion of Iraq and hundreds of thousands of deaths.
Third, what Hamas has done to hide behind civilians is irrelevant. Evil is evil. If bad guys hide behind civilian you don't get a moral free pass to kill the civilians to get to them. That's the reason we don't just blow up the building when bank robbers hold hostages. We claim to follow the teachings of Christ, show me where there's an exception for killing innocents when you don't like the people behind them. But then we get back to point #2, they are not innocent in your mind and they have it coming. That's barbaric thinking whether you admit it or not.
So again, what makes you tick? Are you Jewish, a Zionist Christian, or just a boomer that hasn't updated your opinions in forty years despite the world changing? Not trying to be rude here, but you have constructed a worldview that justifies the wholesale slaughter of civilians. I'd like to know why.
Edit: I've made it very clear what makes me tick, it's Christ's teaching that we be kind to others. I'd like for other to do the same rather than tortured logic that somehow civilians have it coming. That's an indefensible position so something is affecting your thinking.
No, I don’t believe that all the Palestinians should be wiped off from the face of the earth unlike many of the Palestinians, Palestinian supporters in this country, and around the world who would like to see Israel wiped off the face of the earth.
Yes, there is a lot of history concerning Israel beginning in the book of Genesis. There was never a Palestine until AD 70 with the destruction of the Jewish temple by Roman Emperor Hadrian. He denied the Jews access to their ancient capital, Jerusalem, and renamed it Aelia Capitolina. He also erected a temple to Jupiter on the sacred ground of the Temple Mount. Then he renamed Israel after their Biblical enemies the Philistines. He called it Palaestina (Palestine). After the Second Jewish Revolt, Hadrian erased all traces of Jewish identity from the land. My source is Israel Always by Christopher J. Katulka. Another great resource is From Time Immemorial The Origins of the Arab-Jewish Conflict over Palestine by Joan Peters. Of course the greatest resource is the Holy Bible. God gave that land to Israel. It’s an everlasting covenant. So that gives away that I am a Zionist. I am also a believer in the Lord Jesus Christ. There is not an easy fix to this war, but I know from God’s word that He has a plan and He will see it through to the end. Jesus Christ is the same yesterday and today and forever (Hebrews 13:8).
I agree with the historical parts, though I would contend that God took away the right to the land when Israel broke covenant by refusing to recognize their Messiah (which is consistent with them not getting it back for over 1000 years). That does not, however, mean that I don't support the right of modern-day Israel to protect their own peace and security against war and terrorism - just that their right to that area of land today is given by humans rather than by God.
No doubt even that would make me a "Zionist" to many pro-Hamas advocates...
He didn’t break His Covenant with them, because He is the one who instituted it. It is also an everlasting Covenant. If God would break His Covenant with Israel, then what is to say He wouldn’t break His Covenant with us when we disobey. I can dare say that not one of us live sinless lives.
God still has a plan for Israel. Read Romans 9-11 especially 11.
Because that Covenant had terms that it would last so long as Israel kept all of his Commandments. And he gave them a ton of chances to sign back on after breaking it repeatedly. As it is written, the Law was a teacher to show us that perfection of ourselves is not possible, which is why the new covenant is a covenant of grace, which he promises freely to everyone on only one condition - that they "remain in him".
Abraham was saved by grace through faith (Genesis 15:6). This was reiterated in the New Testament (Galatians 3; Acts 3:25; Romans 4:1-16, 9-11; Hebrews 6:13; James 2:21,23). The law also showed the Israelites how sinful they were, and that they weren’t able to keep it perfectly. The Old Testament pointed to the Messiah, and the New Testament revealed Him. The New Covenant was spoken of in the Old Testament and fulfilled in the New Testament (Genesis 3:15; Jeremiah 23:5-8, 31:27-40; Hebrews 10; Matthew, Mark, Luke, John, etc). Grace means unmerited favor. It is not something that we can earn. It is a gift of God (Ephesians 2:8-10). God doesn’t give a gift and then take it away if we don’t remain in Him. The Holy Spirit is given when we are born again. He is our guarantee that we belong to Him (EPH 1:13-14). No believer is 100% faithful all of the time. We are still sinners in need of God’s grace every day moment by moment. Thank God that when we do sin, we have a great High Priest that we can go to boldly in our time of need. “If we confess our sins, He is faithful and just to forgive our sins and to cleanse us from all righteousness (1John 1:9). God promises the New Covenant to all who believe in Him! “For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him shall not perish but have eternal life (John 3:16).”
IMO Jesus death was retroactive, so all faithful Israelites were saved by grace, they just didn't know it. Salvation isn't something that God "takes away" due to our failure, so much as that we (can) throw it away if we turn our backs on him (though, it's hard to imagine why anyone would want to... but clearly it is possible, Heb. 6:4-6).
I would also recommend FOR ZION’S SAKE Christian Zionism and the Role of John Nelson Darby by Paul Richard Wilkinson.
The Case For ZIONISM Why Christians Should Support Israel by Thomas Ice.