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Ryan Gardner's avatar

Maybe it's a PSYOP that all were talking about is Swift?

Don't get me wrong I'm no fan of Swift.

But I also think in order for the NFL to be a PSYOP than you would have to assume every single one of these young men (not to mention the coaches who work 16 hr days for 9 months) is in on the "fix".

These young men work their entire lives to become elite players.

Comment like these diminish their hard work, their commitment to excellence as everything it means to be American. When you've been through the process of reaching this level then you're qualified to make judgments on these young men.

As a biz owner I will higher someone with D1 experience every single day if all things are equal.

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Emumundo's avatar

Just like NASCAR held a race in Mexico City and Montoya won it. Also, Junior won the Daytona 500 the year after his dad died. Breads and Circuses….

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

So was Tiger Woods or Michael Jordan just bit players in a PSYOP.

Maybe you're carrying a PSYOP hammer and all you see is PSYOP nails?

Do you have any clue how hard it is to make it to this level?

You don't. And this is a slap in the face to all the young athletes that worked their asses off to become the best.

I pursued this myself in baseball and wrestling. I failed at baseball but became an elite wrestler.

Theres no luck to it and it certainly wasn't a PSYOP.

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Dave aka Geezermann's avatar

Ryan - I appreciate your perspective on this issue, it is a complex one.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

I have to agree. Sometimes when you go down the PSYOP slope everything becomes a PSYOP.

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Emumundo's avatar

I’m not saying that players in the NFL aren’t the cream of the crop. I’m not saying the players are cheating. The level of play was never more apparent than when the NFL brought in the replacements, the level of play was no where near what we were used to. What I am saying that court cases have determined the NFL to be classified as entertainment, putting it at the level of professional wrestling. I’m not sure why you seem to take this personally. Look at Capricorn One, where the astronauts were all set to go to the moon, only to be told it wasn’t happening. The players are between a rock and a hard place. Do what you’re told or the gravy train is over. What options do they have? Not a lot of competition for the NFL, it’s the only game in town.

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Ryan Gardner's avatar

I'm not taking it personally, I just have a different perspective based on my experience.

Still love ya man. Isn't that what's great about our country, that we can disagree?

Perhaps i didn't understand your point fully.

It's a bit more nuanced than either one of us are making it out to be is all I'm saying.

If this is the biggest thing we disagree on ....well...than I think all of us are one helluva a TEAM!...;)

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Reaching the professional level is quite a journey of dedication, hard work, and sacrifice. Once you achieve it and are exceptional... you are allowed a certain amount of, shall we say, leeway, in many ways.

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LMWC's avatar

You are a bit off. Dale Earnhardt Sr was killed in the 2001 Daytona 500, blocking for Michael Waltrip, who drove for DEI, (Dale Earnhardt Incorporated. Ironic, I know.). Dale Earnhardt Jr. Won his first Daytona 500 in 2004. He beat out Tony Stewart in the last laps who had led much of the race. I always found that part suspicious as Tony had been great up until the last dozen laps. He got passed and drove away.

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MayBella82's avatar

I have more issue of when they took a knee during the National Anthem… was happy to see that they have stopped doing it…it was insulting to me as a Veteran. The other issue I have is the amount of criminal acts that get brushed under the rug…they should be in jail and not treated as a role model.

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TriTorch's avatar

I appreciate your perspective Ryan, but these are contract players who are signed on as entertainers, and even in college you've got the "blue chips" fraud. Anywhere there is big money underneath you will find the maggot infested truth. If you scan the article you will find a number of videos that detail why it is all rigged.

Don't watch them, rather read the disclaimer at the top. The intention was never to disillusion anyone, just shed a light on the lie.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Yeah, I don’t think the players themselves are in on the grift. We have a top of the line player in the “family” and yeah, he worked and works his ass off to be where he is. So I agree, if it’s a psyop, it doesn’t involve the players. Refs? Maybe. Owners? Definitely. Coaches? Nah.

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daverkb's avatar

Are the duped, the manipulated 'in on it'? Consciously? Do all the 'followers' know what they are doing? How many people know that groups like ANTIFA or BLM are paid for proxy armies?

Very often people are rather dumb on how they are being used to run somebody else's influence agenda under a kind of pretext. When I was politically active, I saw how the Koch brothers were using Americans for Prosperity to bolster their influence politically in Washington. And, of course, this is my opinion ... but then again, I could see everything was bought and paid for. Everything including stuff like free lunches, buses, paid organizers ... all under the Koch umbrella.

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