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Blair's avatar

I'm old enough to remember when comparing the flu to Covid was a conspiracy theory and would get you canceled and banned from the interwebs.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Right?? πŸ™„ I’m so over this nonsense. Our β€œexperts” who are constantly baffled about everything and keep changing their definitions and rules. Why should anyone listen to them ever??

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RU's avatar

True. I'm done with them too. I took some flak early on for *gasp* looking at the data myself, doing some basic elementary school math (really, there are no simpler metrics than CFR and IFR), and realizing "this is the same as the flu." I just laugh anytime anyone uses the word "experts." Like, I literally LOL at them.

Unfortunately, the "experts" have put themselves in the boy who cried wolf territory. And if something actually bad does come along...

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Jeff C's avatar

Agree with what you wrote except I'd replace the word "unfortunately" with "fortunately". Them discrediting themselves is probably just about the best thing that could have happened.

Real "experts" don't call themselves experts. It's similar to how those with PhD's outside of the medical industry who actually know their stuff don't refer to themselves as Doctor, or insist other people do. They have humility and know their knowledge and common sense speaks for itself.

It's been hard not to notice that the voices of wisdom in this whole mess have been both highly intelligent and people of faith. They possess ample higher-order reasoning capability while also trusting God. They have the added bonus of knowing they aren't God, nor are self-appointed "experts" like Fauchi.

Edit: typo

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RU's avatar

Fair points for sure. I'm pretty happy any time the government or "officials" of any sort get exposed as the frauds they typically are. The "unfortunately" part was just referring to the idea that we have no society-wide trustworthy voices if something actually serious comes along. It's going to be the wild west. Of course, given what just happened, maybe that's a wash, at worst.

In a sane world, we'd have a nonpartisan, independent public health apparatus that was guided by the public interest and provided unbiased advice on how to maintain health.

And a thinking, skeptical population that took that advice under consideration, but didn't blindly follow it.

I'm probably asking for too much, lol. Way too much, perhaps.

And agree, it is clear the lack of faith among the ruling class is a danger to us all. Beyond public health, in pretty much everything they do. It all reeks of hubris. Trans agenda, climate agenda, bioweapons, warmongering, social engineering...all seems to have its root in a lack of faith in anything beyond human minds.

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Monterey's avatar

That's why God tells us to pray for our leaders.

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Kathy Sullivan's avatar

Even though the left hates us praying for them!

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Marion's avatar

Why should anything β€˜serious’ come along? I think that just by thinking this we are playing into the hands of the evil people who brought us the β€˜Covid’ fraud and are gearing up for β€˜disease X’. I read (and try hard to understand) Sasha Latypova, and she seems to say (to me - I may have misunderstood her) that a β€˜virus’ can’t cause a pandemic around the whole world, as it’s against nature…I may be explaining this badly, it’s worth reading her substack if you don’t already (Due Diligence and Art). Perhaps it’s best just to refer to history - there was the Black Death of course, which in Britain at least died out around the mid 1600s (could this be anything to do with gradually improving sanitation, housing and nutrition- especially since the late 1800s?). There have been no world-wide plagues since, only regional outbreaks of disease in poverty stricken areas with bad water, bad housing, bad food and pollution almost always the cause.

Indeed, the monsters did β€˜cry Wolf’, and I truly hope that many people will stick two fingers up at β€˜disease X’. Alas, I have no faith that many will - especially if they cry β€˜Don’t kill baby’, instead of β€˜don’t kill grandma.’ Most people don’t read and are very, very open to the 24/7 propaganda coming out of their TVs and phones. If another Fauci type says wear a mask or take a toxic shot, they will only ask, β€˜How many?’

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RunningLogic's avatar

🎯🎯🎯

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Peter GL's avatar

What about Dr Jill?

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Kathy's avatar

If something really bad does come along I will be listening to people like Dr. Peter McCullough, Dr. Pierre Kory, And Robert F Kennedy Jr. People who have told me the truth all along.

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Deb Hawthorne's avatar

McCullough just put out a substack yesterday saying statins help fight dementia according to a study🀣🀣🀣🀣🀣wonder if they are now controlling mccullough How could he ever write that substack

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CitizenA's avatar

McCullough got like 99.9% negative comments πŸ‘ŽπŸΌ regarding his position on statins. I belong to that 99.9% group. I was on statins and had severe muscle pain constantly as well as brain fog & confusion. I got off them and returned to normal. Never again will I take a statin.

Besides, we are learning that cholesterol is a good thing, not a bad thing - and I do NOT trust the β€˜experts’ on any claims for HDL (or is it LDL?) responsible for narrowing arteries or causing heart attacks and strokes. All this Covid stuff caused me to reject ANYTHING from the CDC and so called health β€˜experts.’

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

LDL will definitely cause arterial clogging... BUT... that is exactly what it is supposed to do... but only in the presence of INFLAMMATION.

Statins do little or nothing to reduce inflammation, and that's why many studies have shown that statins actually do not extend one's life at all. Almost all MDs are Big Pharma puppets, which is why they still push statins as life-savers... (horseshit)

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Excellent. Now, PLS let’s all focus our attention on normal vaccines. You know, the vaccines that actually qualify as vaccines BUT are doing loads of damage to our kids every year.

EVERYONE PLEASE know, these are no better in many ways than the covid β€œvaccine”! If you read

ONE chapter of TURTLES ALL the WAY DOWN, A VACCINE EXPOSE, you will see the truth. These last 3 years are NOT when the CDC, etc. began deceiving the public and harming patients. Please…

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Deb Hawthorne's avatar

I have high LDL and took the calcium test I have 0 blockage Every doctor I talk to pushing statins to the hilt! The last cardiologist I went to gave me a 20 min lecture on how I’ll die if I don’t take statins!! They are all programmed to just prescribe the drugs Not one doctor talked about diet Exercise or lowering cholesterol by any other way than statins I told the cardio guy how I had muscle pain when I went on them and he tried to tell me it was all in my head and I should just try another statin!!!

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Valerie's avatar

That comment section was actually fun to read.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I read that as well and thought that it was as ridiculous as Ukraine spending billions on lots of things.......EXCEPT.....a backhoe.

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Monterey's avatar

I saw that, too. Have read that statins cause dementia. And cause type 2 diabetes or make it worse. Finally got a relative off of them after years.

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Gabriella's avatar

Seriously?! Did he mention the side effects to the statins?

According to Dr. Ardis nicotine can help dementia/altzheimers amongst many other illnesses. Parkinson’s, Type 1 diabetes, & more. He just did an interview with Man in America explaining how.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Yeah. When I saw that article, all I could think was, β€˜WHY did he write this article???’

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Monterey's avatar

There's a woman on Twitter named Marion Holman who tweets extensively about the negative effects of statins. She has studied it for a long time.

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Amy C.'s avatar

I saw that too, and was utterly shocked!

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Smatse's avatar

He's always believed that. It's nothing new for him.

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Likely so. But, I wonder what compelled him to write this post, at this time? It’s strange.

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Peter GL's avatar

problem is these people are effectively cancelled by the MSM and it is difficult to find their opinions. Notice how the democrats are not allowing RFKjr in their primaries?

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

A consortium of Big Pharma, Big Media, Big Legal, Big Insurance, Big Education, Big Defense, Big Gov, Big Election FRAUD, etc are all conspirators for almost all of the major problems with our collapsing Republic.

VERY clear, in the handling of the bogus pandemic and the demonization and persecution of good man TRUMP.

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Monterey's avatar

Yes, they like to move the goal posts around a lot. He said that they changed the rules for the primary so that effectively he would have to win 80% of the vote to take the nomination. Stunning

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daverkb's avatar

I did the same in 2020, deaths divided by total population in a two county area plus my sister-in-law's huge county in another state. And gaz vhat? No pandemic! And so they lied, and lied and lied ... and now knowing what we now know about the DoD, China and the Drug Lords (Pharma)? And all the lying?

Safe to say, the entire lying, murdering and maiming Criminal Syndicate should be standing on the gallows ... nooses around their necks. But don't hold your breath because 'nobody' wants to do this. Why? 1) Because now the dastardly deed is done, it sure would be a shame to toss all those newly created control files out the windows. And 2) all of those Dummy World Leaders that went along with? They ain't exactly hot to trot to advertize just how dumb they were.

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M2's avatar

Yeah, I got banned and hounded for my "do the math" comments early on. Never gave a single crap about Covid after that.

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daverkb's avatar

That was an amazing time. Do the math ... and the conclusion was obvious. No Pandemic. Total Psy-Opts ... and Health Terrorism Campaign initiated and in progress. But wait? People rather watch TV, listen to the radio and have digital and/or analogue novocain injected into their brains. And then amble agreeably up to the Death Jab Administration Centers.

It was surreal. And 'surreal' does make one doubt one's self ... because the wave of 'opinion' was totally against the figures actual. 'mRNA' and 'lipid nanoparticulate' though cinched it for me. But wait again! How could anybody be against 'safe and effective' and 'lock yourself' up in your house?

And remember all those videos of empty hospitals? With bodies stacked up like cord wood? And the hospital ship that went to New York City ... and only maybe ten people used it?

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CStone's avatar

Only they weren’t’ dumb’. They were in charge of the operation.

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daverkb's avatar

How much of how much? I always have to ask myself. And I still don't have a definitive answer. But I do understand that a huge number of people, including medical people, were deceived. Some were people now on our side of 'it was a criminal operation' equation that were fooled, took the Death Jab and now wish they hadn't.

Our so-called 'doctor' told me and my wife to get the jab during a visit. I asked him why. He said that 'he did the research' and that is was 'safe and effective' (words to that effect). He meant he read the Pharma bs is what I think it way. But he did not make us wear masks, and he did not believe that the state should mandate. I.e., he was a cognitively impaired Libertarian.

I also think that long term that the Covid Terrorism Campaign will do more damage to the American Empire and the UN ... than maybe sanctioning and the confiscation of assets vis a vis Russia, Russia, Russia and the Ukraine. Credibility has been not only tossed out the window, but it has escaped the atmosphere and was last seen traveling towards the crab nebula.

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YYR's avatar

What do you expect? People can't even make change when paid in cash without a calculator anymore.

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Fla Mom's avatar

YYR, funny you should mention that; here's what I said in a FB memory post from this day in 2021, commenting on a group called Equitable Math, which was claiming to see white supremacy in normal math - you know, like "there's a right answer," and "there's only one answer."

My comments then:

"Who will be engineering *your* future buildings/bridges/electronics/chemicals?

Who will be calculating *your* drug dosages?

Will that space ship land on Mars and return to Earth, or is that too much of a "right" answer?

(More "education" for the generation that can't even count back change.)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Well I guess if someone shorts them on change then, it’s all good 😬

β€œYou say your change is six dollars and 12 cents but I say it’s actually 1 dollar and 5 cents because there is no one right answer” 😁

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Michele's avatar

I work farmers markets and it breaks peoples' brains when the total is like, 10.65 and I see them fumbling with their bills and I say "Wanna give me 21.00?"

But the ones who get ME are when their total is 6.85 and they'll hand me 10.10 b/c they want that quarter. Always makes me pause a millisecond. "Oh, yeah!"

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MaryAnn's avatar

The part of the nursing program admission process that eliminated most applicants was the math in calculating dosages. I want the nurse who graduated with A grades, not C grades!

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Sunnydaze's avatar

I went to the dollar store a week ago. The 25ish year old guy accidentally put in that I gave him a $10 instead of a $20. He panicked. He had to ask the girl behind him on another register how much change to give back. I was floored. He couldn’t even count back change to me! If she hadn’t been there I think he would’ve stood there until he could get a manager there. I was like, dude, I can teach you how to count back the change πŸ™„. But he was happy the lady just gave him the answer. πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™€οΈ public education at its finest. πŸ˜’

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Monterey's avatar

The thing is, I could understand if he was a little weak on figuring out change when he first started the job. But someone working in a job like that should become really really good at figuring out the change to give back. Lots of practice opportunities , right??

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TB's avatar

Could be also that he was worried the register would show him coming up "missing" the $10 cash at the end of the day and be accused of stealing.

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Naw. He had no clue how to count back change. It was obvious what the issue was. I just was shocked because when I got my first job working as a cashier the first thing they did was teach us how to count back change. Of course that was almost 40 years ago. 😱 They don’t teach them that now. They just teach them how to buy a calculator or replace batteries. πŸ˜‚

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MaryAnn's avatar

Yep. Don’t ever give $1.01 for a .91 itemβ€¦πŸ˜–

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RunningLogic's avatar

They probably wouldn’t know or realize it anyway πŸ™„ It’d be up to us, yet again.

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Fred's avatar

Unless they were the ones who released it…

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Margot Russell's avatar

When I had Covid, it did not feel like the flu. It was a weird illness, with weird symptoms and was not natural.

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WIMomof3's avatar

Agree! I’ve never tested but I can tell when I have covid vs another virus… there’s just something about it that ain’t right

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RU's avatar

My point was that the fatality rate was the same as the flu. At first, like a bad flu season, then later like a mild flu season. Now it's essentially the same fatality rate as the common cold. When I had it, the symptoms were very much like the flu (chills, fever, nausea, muscle aches, tiredness, no appetite) with the one odd symptom being the loss of taste. Not the usual "clogged sinuses" loss of taste; simply no ability to taste anything at all without any congestion. That was strange. The cough at the end was also very annoying.

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RunningLogic's avatar

And surely would have had a lot fewer fatalities even, if not for the evil protocols they used πŸ˜•

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RU's avatar

Yes, good point. If you were to take out all the "covid" deaths that were due to medical malpractice, and then the later "covid" deaths that were actually due to the injections within the 2-week window where ppl were still considered "unvaxxed," the actual covid fatality rate sits even closer to 0.

Imagine people in the future: "wait, so you injected somebody with something that no one knew anything about, and then when they died right after injecting them, you said it was from something else?"

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Datagal's avatar

Re: religious revival:

I was raised atheist. But three historic events (plus many small incidents) finally awakened me to embrace God and declare Jesus as my Savior:

9/11: an β€œus vs. them” moment- Islam vs. Christianity. (This was when I believed the 9/11 narrative).

The Tea Party movement: studying the constitution awakened me to God’s hand in our founding. Our rights come from our Creator.

The plandemic: the tyranny exposed for me the pure evil that has captured governments world wide. How else does one explain the deadly jabs? It’s so clear that we have turned away from God and allowed Satan to thrive.

I’ve had a personal religious revival and see this also in folks like Naomi Wolf.

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Datagal's avatar

The other simple metric was the jab’s relative risk reduction (95%) vs. absolute risk reduction (0.8%!). That was a no brainer.

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Marilyn F's avatar

Doctors followed the govt line & not the Hippocratic oath. They screwed us and themselves. It will take generations to restore faith in physicians.

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AngelaK's avatar

But because we don't have these new cdc musings announced by a Fauci or CNN, there are still those who fear covid like the plague, and who hurry up for those ineffective boosters, because the flip flopping, corporate oligarch obeying, confusing country that we have become, still tells them to.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Or even when they do hear about it, they get mad at the CDC for not being cautious enough πŸ™„

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John Ransley's avatar

They all need boosters immediately! Give them free twinkies

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AngelaK's avatar

Indeed true!

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RU's avatar

Yeah, all 100 willing CNN viewers. If it weren't for people stuck at airports, CNN would have almost no viewership at all. I am done with these people. They are clearly the ones natural selection intended to remove, and probably still will at some not-too-distant future point. Their views are not important, not correct, and not shared by the vast majority of the world. They are an obnoxious, insane minority of the population that just needs to close their traps and stay away from sane people. And they need to be directly told as much. They need to be shamed into changing their behavior or hiding.

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rolandttg's avatar

One of my sister in laws is very special indeed , as she is one of these 100 viewers. And of course counts down the days until she is eligible for her next jab. And doctors are gods. And we were fools to not let the doctors cut of her breast and radiate her, and fixed it ourselves instead, TDS bad. Well, you get the picture.

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AngelaK's avatar

How did you help her cancer?

How is she now?

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Smatse's avatar

My brother-in-law is one too. He's got a bad case of TDS as well but isolated himself (and still does) instead of take the injection. He's a well-meaning and interesting fool.

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Formerly_Known_As_Someone's avatar

My brother is a constantly N95 masked Covidian. Creates stress in our family. Our very elderly mom isn’t scared of Covid at all. He’s keeping her from enjoying herself, as she likes to go out now and then, he won’t go even on her birthday. He went once, masked and didn’t eat.

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CStone's avatar

I thought cnn lost its contract at airports. Are they back? (Haven’t flown in years).

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RU's avatar

No clue. It was a joke. If they did lose their airport contract, then now all they've got is the 100 willing viewers, lol. Makes one wonder how they stay in business.

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Patrice's avatar

They used to have CNN on at the Kaiser facility I went to. It was CNN in the lab waiting area and The View in doctors' waiting area. I always thought it was a great way to raise the patients' blood pressure readings...

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Smatse's avatar

They are also on at Planet Fitness. Nobody is watching any of the 10+ TVs though.

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M2's avatar

Hilarious!

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Leskunque Lepew's avatar

Meanwhile, many are still being censored for their non narrative compliance.

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Deb's avatar

This is the perfect example of why we should not listen to them at all! Do your own research. If the virus taught us anything, it is to examine sound information from trusted sources. And we have seen and found many as a result of the outright lies and evil spewed by the government!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!

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nancy roberts's avatar

Your words sum it up nicely, Running Logic. "Our experts who are constantly baffled about everything"....

And so correct in asking the question defining the state of the world,

"Why should anyone listen to them, ever?"

In hindsight, we learned a heck of a lot more than they did and thank God for that!

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William H Warrick III MD's avatar

It was obviously the Flu because there wasn’t any Flu in 2021.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

No one should. Turn off the noise and take a walk. Skip the ice cream cone. :) I used to love an occasional ice cream treat. Then came Nan and her frickin’ freezer full and Mr. Peters which his waffle cone bonanza. I guess I could move on to gelato but I’ll go with home grown beef and greens while it’s available:)

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Melanie Eccles's avatar

Ever!

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Cathleen Manny's avatar

Why indeed.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Two of my six adult children are still terrified of Covid. One is expecting our first grandchild any day, but at the moment, we will be unable to be with this child in person until it is fully vaxxed (since we opted not to get vaxxed for Covid, flu, rsv, and tdap). My other son thinks I’m untrustworthy regarding illnesses because 2 years ago I called Covid a cold. Our relationship is estranged right now. I’m heartbroken over the damage Covid policies have wreaked on my family, and have been praying fervently for the truth to be known. Perhaps we are finally getting there? That remains to be seen.

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Peace's avatar

These broken family stories truly are heartbreaking. I feel so badly for your situation and the situations of many others who have fractured family relationships. I pray that with the ongoing release of the truth they will be open to restoring relationships with you. Shame on any pediatrician willing to administer this to young children.

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Fla Mom's avatar

We've never been invited to see our nephew's baby because were not injected for (with? lol) Covid.

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TeacherLori's avatar

What a shame.πŸ˜”

(I β€˜liked’ the comment even though I hate it.🀬)

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RunningLogic's avatar

Same 😞

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Lincoln's avatar

Can’t fix stupid…per Bette White!

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Fred's avatar

Oh, so sorry! πŸ’” Both that you won’t be able to see the new GC, but also that he/she will probably get the HepB on day 1. All risk; zero benefit. That’s the easiest one to fight, if you dare. Tell them to read the package insert…and if it’s not, question why.

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TeacherLori's avatar

I already said my piece about that, once, citing Turtles All the Way Down, and said I wouldn’t push or stand in their way. But I did say (actually, write) that I’m troubled that children are being treated like test animals. Since he and his wife are staunch veganists, I hoped that might prick their attention, but evidently not.πŸ˜”

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Peace's avatar

Well, we never know what our words to skeptics might wake up in them down the road. Seeds being sown and waiting to be planted, watered, and fertilized by others who speak to them and to the ongoing revelations of truth.

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Sharon's avatar

Being vegan is what saved my grandchildren from any childhood shots as parents did research and found animal substance of some kind in all the shots, got exemptions for school and are happy and healthy…..all 7!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

The disconnect was amazing to watch, the Whole Foods crowd was the worst. They demanded masks for, one or two years, yet dropped the cart cleaning person about half way through? Hummmm 🧐😏

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Michele's avatar

Ugh, the cart-cleaning persons! I'd repressed that memory, lol!

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Karen Bandy's avatar

🀣 sorry to remind you! 🀣

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KC & the Sunshine's avatar

Find Marcella Piper Terry on FB. She has loads

of articles that are bound to eventually get

through. Also, Ashley Everly has the vaccine ingredients and adverse reactions β€” all the actual manufacturers inserts included in every box of vaccines. These are moving and terrifying once you read through them.

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Susan Stephens's avatar

Thank you for these sources

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Fred's avatar

In fairness, you might never take an aspirin if you read the warnings, but NOW, I don't mention that bit of information. Ha! Thanks for the reference!

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

"Prick" their attention...I saw what you did there!

"Vax/Unvax" is an easy read with charts and graphs and relatively brief articles. Maybe gift a copy with an open, "I would appreciate your opinion on this", not "you need to read this."

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup I said no to that one, even though I didn’t know as much about vaccines as I do now. There is ZERO reason for a baby to get that shot unless the mother is a drug addict or a prostitute, even if you believe the traditional vaccines work. Which I don’t anymore.

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Brenda Ping's avatar

Do hospitals allow babies born in them without getting the mass of vaccines after they’re born? Just wondering.

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Fred's avatar

Yes. You simply decline (and usually sign a waiver) for the HepB vax. The Vit K shot isn’t a vax (helps prevent brain bleeding for a few weeks; low risk but not zero), but you can decline that as well - if you want. Can use oral Vit K drops but may not be as effective.

https://evidencebasedbirth.com/whats-best-oral-vitamink-regimen-newborns/

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Fred's avatar

My 2 cents, and note that many don’t agree with me, is that the oral drops or one shot of Vit K (whichever you can get them to agree to) is more likely to have potential benefit than risk, esp if you’re going to skip or postpone other vaccines.

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Fred's avatar

The other shots are not given until after you leave the hospital so you have time to consider whether you want your infant to have them.

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Fred's avatar

should have included, "if it's not available," (cuz I'd be very surprised if it is)...

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Jeff C's avatar

I've always differentiated between people acting irrationally versus those acting in a manipulative fashion. People acting irrationally let a notion overwhelm their thinking resulting in bad decisions. But they still retain a decency towards others and it shows in their actions.

Manipulators on the other hand, toy with others emotions to get their way. They will try and manipulate others through guilt (If you don't get vaxxed you are responsible for killing grandma!). They will call names and intentionally stoke division in the family. They are catty and will gossip, trying to get others on their side.

IMO, those acting irrationally deserve some time to work things out. The best thing to do is pray and be there for them when/if they change their mind. The manipulators though are like a cancer and are toxic to those around them. Being estranged is a blessing (though it may not seem that way), as short of humbling themselves before Jesus they won't change.

Hopefully things are the former not the latter, but regardless you are in our prayers.

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TeacherLori's avatar

Thank you.πŸ™πŸΌ

Yes, the way I see it is that my kids (adults, I know…) are misguided. They are not trying to manipulate us, and I know they genuinely love us. The oldest is extremely cautious and just trying to do what they feel is best for their baby and themselves. I sense once the baby comes they may soften their requirements for us, but for now I don’t know. The other is going through some rough times and not thinking as clearly as I know he can. I pray for them all many times a day and continue to trust in God. But it’s still painful. I often wonder, though, if things would be different if we didn’t live in the Pacific Northwest where things are still pretty crazy. Fewer masks now, which is good, but still a large contingent who fear being sick.

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RunningLogic's avatar

My parents have both passed away in the last two years and I am so so very thankful that we all refused to listen to the β€œstay apart” propaganda except for maybe the very beginning weeks. We spent holidays together and enjoyed each other’s company. I am so grateful for the time we spent together. I hope your children come around and realize how precious your relationship and the time you can spend together are πŸ™

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daverkb's avatar

Education is everything. And in particular, the Right Education. Because everything is preconditioned by what is rattling around inside the brain cage.

By the way, I listened last night to the entire Putin speech before the Russian Parliament. All two some hours of it. No Pete Pete mumbling and bumbling! And a real good glimpse into the authoritarian nature of the Russian Federation. Not a perfect place but hugely much better administrated than the United States. And the emphasis is unmistakably on real education minus all the fake Woke. This the Russian version of MAGA ... and by very serious people. Even skipping through would afford a glimpse of modern post-Soviet Russia.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240229/watch-full-video-of-putins-state-of-the-nation-address-to-russias-parliament-1117055399.html

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Long Enough?'s avatar

My sister and I barely speak because we refused to get vaxxed. Her entire family did as was their choice. During Thanksgiving β€˜21 her husband decided to corner one of my sons, who was a navy corpsman, and pressure him to get the shot. My son stood his ground and just kept repeating the facts. He was young, healthy and not at risk of death should he catch COVID. I was incredibly proud of him. Things with my sister have never been the same since. Oh, and they all have had Covid numerous times. Thank god they live healthy lifestyles, but I still worry.

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Patty's avatar

Hopefully the Vax will be pulled from market and banned this year

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TeacherLori's avatar

I don’t know why I didn’t think to pray for this before, but that is my new prayer. I’ve been praying fervently for the truth to be known, but vaxxes being pulled is much more practical.πŸ˜…

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Remember, thanks to the evil swine of Big Pharma... mRNA is now in a LOT of stuff besides the Covid jabs...

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TeacherLori's avatar

Yes!!!πŸ™πŸΌπŸ™πŸΌπŸ™πŸΌ

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RunningLogic's avatar

It really bothers me how much stock certain people put in what relatively random strangers tell them to do with their lives. Like telling them more or less that they need to cut off their own loving family and good friends because some government bureaucrats told them to. It’s really like a cult in that way πŸ˜• I pray that all those who follow the β€œexperts” see the light very soon πŸ™

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

Mothers that are vaxxed are very likely to have children that have major health problems for life... IF they can even have kids at all...

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Marie's avatar

What have you seen in regards to your comment? Any articles you can share? I've been somewhat concerned about a 2 yr. old granddaughter. Her belly is big. It seemed it just abnormally ballooned around 5-6 months. She was constantly having blow-outs. Parents have never been concerned, so I'm assuming their doctor has never brought it up. I've never questioned them about it. I've often wondered if any other children of a vaxxed parent had this issue and what it could be.

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

I wish I could help... but there are so many things the vaxx can do to a person... was the child vaxxed? Not sure what a "blow-out" is, I do not have kids...

I hope it is just a normal thing... like gas... but I sure would keep a close watch on her if you can without stepping on toes... I hope they are testing her regularly, IF they think something is unusual...

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Marilyn F's avatar

Same thing in my family. My husband & I are medical people. We are unvaxed. Neither of my sons studied medicine. They decided we have no idea what we are talking about. It’s amazing how much smarter they are 😳

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this little authoritarian's avatar

The thing that gets one's blood boiling is that had they treated a sick "covid - postive-person the way they used to treat ANY potentially severe respiratory infection with repurposed drugs, steroids, antibiotics and respiratory support, it would have been no different. But nah, it's "covid" and there's no treatment outside of vent and remdesivir....

It's criminal.

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Erin Fight's avatar

There will be an eternal debt paid for ALL involved-- including the media for their part in the millions of deaths.

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Janet's avatar

I’m sure of it. They won’t get away with this degree of sin and I believe when more understand the venal child sacrifice going on in our faces, the tide will turn and they will in time be held to account.

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Long Enough?'s avatar

It was cruel, evil and unforgivable.

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Deb's avatar

GREED, MONEY, AND POWER!!!!

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Lincoln's avatar

But NOW you can get ivermectin…Thank the Lord!

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this little authoritarian's avatar

Let's be honest. The only doctors who would prescribe IVM now for an airway imfection were the ones who prescribed it back then. It's just that pharmacies will maybe fill it now.

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TIM's avatar

Yeah me too...and sneers and jeers from the brainwashed lemmings

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On an island's avatar

They have to wind down this pandemic to prepare for the next big scary thing. Just after the majority come around to breathing a sigh of relief over Covid flu they’ll release disease x or some other BS β€” probably right after Trump gets reelected.

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Fla Mom's avatar

It's pretty much what got me kicked off Twitter, unless it was just mentioning masks instead. In May of 2021, I pointed out that the infection fatality rate and case fatality rate for flu was higher in children than for Covid, so would anyone be surprised to see masks required for the next flu season. Two appeals later, one pre-Elon and one post, I'm still suspended.

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shayne's avatar

Back then I would tell my covid-compliant friends it was only the flu... They would get so mad, and I would laugh. I thank my parents for the common sense they instilled in me. My dad would yell RUBBISH at just about everything.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

We went to our local Costco outside Nashville this morning. Not a single masker to be found which is surprising. Good times.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s always encouraging! I feel like there are random holdouts where I live, but so few and far between that they stick out like sore thumbs.

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ThreeArchBay's avatar

The evildoers think people are generally sheep and stupid... maybe they are right in most cases... but to see Covid BOOMING and the number of seasonal flu cases going to almost zero at the same time is a hint that even a low-IQ liberal should have figured out...

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Trish's avatar

If you don't test, it's not Covid, lol

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St. Alia the Knife's avatar

Can we go back to calling it the WuFlu?

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Michele's avatar

Classic abusive relationship BS, to story change now.

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Bob K's avatar

"I'm old enough to remember when ..." -- that's a hoot ! Great line ! :-)

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voza0db's avatar

Those were the FUn days.

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Yuri Bezmenov's avatar

A wise orange man said, one day this will go away just like the flu. Once again, he was right. But they had to destroy the economy, healthy system, and kids schools to take him down.

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

...and murder people in hospitals with Remdesivir and ventilators.

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Jamison's avatar

Or simply with the jabs. I have a friend who had been declared free of cancer after treatment, but he took every jab available on doctor’s advice. He finally got Covid, now pneumonia. And, for some reason, his body can’t fight it off. His immune system is shot, and they just can’t figure out why.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

My sisters dad was clear of cancer for 10 years. Cancer doc stated it started again from the jab. He died. After they used some new experimental drugs on him that caused him to start bleeding from all open orifices. And they didn't provide informed consent what the risk was to the new drug. Sold it like it would give him more time and quality of life. Utter BS. Wife overheard the nurses say he made it 5 months before these side effects started. Most of the patients only last 4 months. So they probably stop the trial at 2 months now to not show this outcome. Once you agree to become the guinea pig. you are on the hamster wheel. Or something like that. Unless you wake up and get off before it is too late.

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RunningLogic's avatar

That’s horrible 😞

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I have a friend who was being treated for cancer, and his cancer doctor told him to take the shots.

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MOMinator's avatar

My good friend’s 13-yo niece was successfully treated for leukemia (yes, she was given covid jab) with chemo/stem cell transplant at St Jude’s. The first thing her oncologist did, after announcing her free of cancer? Yep, gave her the newest jab. And they’re starting the whole childhood vax schedule all over again.

My friend and I are heartbroken πŸ˜”

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shayne's avatar

A special place in hell for these people. That poor child.

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MOMinator's avatar

I know. The parents are brainwashed, but the oncologist has no excuse. Nor do the pediatricians pushing the jabs on our kids for $$$

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MaryAnn's avatar

Same for my 65 yr old friend treated for multiple myeloma with stem cell transplant. All jabs from infancy forward were repeated. 😳😠

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CarO Lyn's avatar

I heard St Jude’s won’t take a kid as a patient unless they’ve had the vax

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Oh yes, very common. Those β€˜most vulnerable’ people were the worst candidates to take the shots.

Actually, I used to say that all the time, now it seems even healthy people were also the worst candidates to take the shot.

Death, turbo cancers, dementia, I’m seeing it all around me, as are others.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup just saw that a healthy woman in her early 40s in my town suddenly died from what was termed a β€œmedical emergency.” We all know what that likely means πŸ˜•

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Not fooling us!

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Truth 101's avatar

Same and she believed the doctors. And her cancer came back - the more invasive kind - after getting the mRNA. She is okay though. . . for now . .

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Jamison's avatar

I hear you. The reasoning being because they are immune-compromised due to cancer treatments. The end result is that the jabs destroy their immune systems.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But our eyes have been opened.

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GG's avatar

But was it worth the cost?

That's what I keep asking myself. I imagine if we could ask "covid" victims, they would reply in the negatory.

The other question I keep asking myself is why did it have to get to this point?

I interact with so many people who think covid was a scam, the government is up to no good, our country is being invaded, we've been made slaves... and they just kind of shrug, like, "What are you going to do? It is what it is." I thought Americans were made of sterner stuff, but I'm discovering that's not true.

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Yes. When I'm having a hard day, my mind goes there. On the other hand, I've been in the know on this stuff a lot longer pre covid due to my son's 4mo shot injury 17 years ago. So to see this rapid of a wake up is somewhat of a blessing in disguise. It would have taken another 30 plus years and I don't know that it would have happened had we needed another 30 years for the wake up. And yes, I don't know that we have enough time even now with all this devastation. But everyone is aware now of the issues and more are working hard rather than just allowing it all to continue always never confronted.

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GG's avatar

I'm sorry you and your son had that experience. I took my son to his 2 month appointment on April 16, 1993 and he was dead when I woke up April 19, 1993. So I've known about this stuff a long time, too. I spent a lot of time being angry. It's not fun to be told that your son's life is the price of everyone else's wellness, especially when you know it's not true. It's not fun to be condescended to by health and education officials. It's not fun to be shunned because you won't vaccinate your living children.

Covid and the shots gave me a different perspective, to where I am so thankful no one in my family went into this blind because we knew the truth. But I still ask myself if his death was worth it.

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I wish Substack let us choose a crying emoji to show our sympathy with people who've had your experience. I am so sorry.

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daverkb's avatar

There are always silver linings. For example, it's worth thinking about all the lives which were saved by people speaking out on things like vaccine death and damage. It will be the same for Health Terrorism which in its exposure has already ripped the mask off of Evil.

I've had similar things happen to me as you and it sticks, and it all never entirely goes away. But it most often gets better, then tolerable, and then bearable. And then when I get stuck, I think on Job ... and the Old Testament prophets. I often wondered what was the sense all that? What could possibly be the us of a Book of the Bible like Job? But I see it better now. And ditto for the crosses we bear. And ditto for the crosses we always must bear. If it were not so, we would be greater than God. This is a thought which took me a long, long time to digest.

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The Great Resist's avatar

I am so sorry! I can’t even imagine. My son was born not long after that, and I never questioned what the pediatrician injected him with.

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Fred's avatar

It wasn’t, and I 😭. πŸ’”πŸ™†β€β™€οΈ

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Kelliann's avatar

πŸ˜ͺπŸ˜ͺ

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RunningLogic's avatar

β€œto be told that your son's life is the price of everyone else's wellness”

What an absolutely horrible thing to say to someone!!! 😳😑 Shows zero compassion and incredible flippancy!

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Heather LibertyCricket's avatar

Ggodness gracious. I'm so sorry. As often as I'm angry with the doc for convincing me to get all 9 at once, I am also somewhat grateful. I think had my son had lesser earlier reactions. I would have continued and there would have been a bigger tipping point that could have more easily ended as your son. He had the encephalytic scream. I know now we are lucky he woke up again after that. The seizures then started and so I stopped vaxxing. No life is ever worth this wakeup call. I'm so sorry for your loss. I'm sure you still ache.

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Susan Seas's avatar

Oh Heather and GG, my heart hurts for you both. πŸ˜’πŸ’”

I am so sorry. These people are E vile!!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Agreed. We're made of ridiculously peaceful and tolerant stuff, and that's our downfall. These past decades of "enlightened" parenting and school "discipline" are perfect examples. We don't want to hurt anyone's feelings, so we fail to teach right from wrong and back up the lessons with consequences. It's time for all of us to grow backbones and stand up straight.

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GG's avatar

We've become soft on the stuff that matters and hard everywhere else. And it breaks my heart.

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AngelaK's avatar

Look at what 'they' do..innocent J6 ers in jail, IRS after individuals and churches, cancel culture destroying people's livelihood, women who come out of the woodwork after decades to accuse men of sexual misconduct, and the list goes on..we are scared if we are on the wrong side of the 'official party line' .

It is like the old time soviet union. Yet, we act righteously indignant about Russia and Putin without looking into the mirror.

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GG's avatar

Have you read "Gulag Archipelago"? It's exactly like that.

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daverkb's avatar

GG seems to imply that the 'United States' government is more like the Soviet Era government. I think that is exactly right. The only difference is that the 'Bolshevik revolutionaries' in America haven't quite gotten around to the full blown Gulag yet. But they sure are working on it.

The Russian Federation is basically the kind of government Russia has always had, the Soviet period excepted, autocratic with Russian Orthodoxy as the controlling moral agency (something X-out by the Soviets). The main modern update is the government of the Russian Federation is a socialized government in a way the Czarist government never was.

I just watched President Putin's speech to the Russian Parliament ... all two hours of it. It is quite illuminating. Completely missing is Woke. And unmistakably, the Federation is fully of some serious people. You only have to watch a sample to catch on to the new flavors. It is quite illuminating as to what is going on in Russia.

https://sputnikglobe.com/20240229/watch-full-video-of-putins-state-of-the-nation-address-to-russias-parliament-1117055399.html

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AngelaK's avatar

Astute observations.

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J Boss's avatar

I don't think there was any way to open the eyes. The 21st century American trance was too effective for anything less to have worked.

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GG's avatar

Yes, but how did we get here? If we don't figure that out, it won't matter if we clean up this mess, because there will be another like it coming down the pike. We were a pick-yourself-up-by-your-bootstraps nation; a bunch of can-do, you-can't-stop-me people who could accomplish anything. We cared about each other, really cared, and we cared about our communities. We only care about ourselves now and it's a huge problem.

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AngelaK's avatar

As you probably know better than most, they will still mock the 'anti vaxxer', yet they have no idea of how many shots and what shots are now given! 70 at last count. I believe. And why does a 2 minute old newborn need a Hepatitis vaccine, which is for intravenous drug users and sexually promiscuous people??? Atleast wait until the age of 12 like they did in 1998.

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Fla Mom's avatar

GG, here's one part of the beginning:

"The first step in understanding the state of education today is to review how government came to be the dominant force behind schooling in the United States. From the outset of the first settlements in the New World, Americans founded and successfully maintained a decentralized network of schools through the 1850s. Then, beginning in New England, a wave of change swept across the country, which soon saw states quickly abandoning the original American model of decentralized, private education in favor of government-funded and operated schools.

"This movement not only altered the direction and control of elementary and secondary education in the United States, but it also contradicted many of the principles Americans had fought for less than a century earlier:

- A country founded in opposition to central governmental authority allowed for bureaucratic management of its schools.

- A country synonymous with "free enterprise" and distrust of legally protected monopolies built a government monopoly in schooling.

- A country that stretched the exercise of individual choice to its practical limits in nearly every sphere of life severely limited the exercise of choice in schooling, assigning the responsibility for education to the discretion of government authorities.

"The system of K-12 government schooling that exists to this day clashes with the political, economic, social, and cultural traditions of the United States to an extent unparalleled by any other institution in American society."

https://www.mackinac.org/3249

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rolandttg's avatar

We trusted our doctors. We trusted our governments. We trusted our Big Pharma companies. We trusted our media. Pretty stupid, weren't we.? Trust no on, and make your own decisions. after researching. For everything. No exceptions.

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Fla Mom's avatar

GG, and here's the middle period, particularly the regressive "Progressive" Era. Listening to all of these sets up the ones at the end, and you don't have to do the readings or take the quizzes. You do get a much better understanding of why the Left relies on 'experts' through the lectures on the "Progressives."

"In this twelve-lecture course, students will examine the political theory of the American Founding and subsequent challenges to that theory throughout American history. Topics covered in this course include: the natural rights theory of the Founding, the meaning of the Declaration and the Constitution, the crisis of the Civil War, the Progressive rejection of the Founding, and the nature and form of modern liberalism."

https://online.hillsdale.edu/landing/constitution-101

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Fla Mom's avatar

GG, and here's another part, much more recent; it's only 20 minutes and truly excellent:

"On March 29, 2023, James Lindsay delivered a short address before a conference at the European Union Parliament in Brussels, Belgium. This speech has been widely recognized as making the nature of the Neo-Marxist Cultural Revolution engulfing the West extremely clear, with a sharp warning to Europe not to follow in the footsteps of the Anglophone countries. In the two months since, this speech has gone viral and received incredible praise and feedback for its clarity and ability to articulate the true nature of the so-called β€œculture war” or β€œWoke” phenomenon threatening the West. Join him to understand what’s happening all around us and why we must take it seriously."

https://newdiscourses.com/2023/05/woke-a-culture-war-against-europe-james-lindsay-at-the-european-parliament/

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daverkb's avatar

GG ... Duty is ours, results are God's. Our enemies leave out that last part about results. That is why they become Evil incarnate.

Some things must find God's peace in rest. Saying this does not obliterate Duty ... and striving. Presumably even Jeremiah pick up after he got out of the will.

But questioning is still good.

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Barbls's avatar

I think we're made of sterner stuff, but we also are raisedin this country to be tolerant of a huge range of behavior, and we also are richer and better off than the rest of the world. In the countries that have had enough, like El Salvador and Argentina, the living standards had reached rock bottom before the people rose up against the gangs and communists (same thing) and elected leaders who opposed those criminals. I think we still have the opportunity to have a political solution, but it requires the continuing awakening of people and coalescing with those of like minds.

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Janet's avatar

I have to comfort myself with the knowledge that I will not comply. That is the first thing each of us can do and if enough do that with their own bodies, change will happen. You start to not comply from where you are in this world. This very moment. Not from where this all started. It’s not over.

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Peregrine's avatar

Q kept saying "It had to be this way. We could not just say what was happening."

While Q may not be who "he" says he is, ^^^this^^^ statement rings true.

People need to SEE with their own eyes and mind, and not just be told.

The Great Reset vs. The Great Reveal.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thomas the disciple is certainly an example.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Those who have lived thru communism are made of sterner stuff!

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GG's avatar

I think a lot of us are about to become sterner (at least, I hope we have the necessary parts to become "sterner")

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CraigN's avatar

Brass & lead as well as whatever else you think you need to persevere. Hope it does not come to that, but just in case....

In the meantime, we need to push back against evil in whatever way we can. You are not alone. Plenty of likeminded out here. Thank you Jeff for this community!

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Laura Barrett's avatar

This is the thing that I can’t get past, the murder of innocent people who just needed help.

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Erin Montgomery's avatar

Went to dinner last night with all 3 very intelligent professionals talking about being up to date with all the boosters. Then topic changes to how long it takes to get over a cold/cough/flu. I had difficulty keeping my mouth shut. I- unvaxed-never had the vid. I finally blurted out don’t get any more boosters. Subject changed after a very pregnant pause.

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Jamison's avatar

I’ve managed to convince some not to get any more boosters, but some just don’t want to admit being wrong.

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shayne's avatar

You nailed it Jamison.

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CitizenA's avatar

Accepting & admitting that one is wrong might be hard to do, but it’s better than being β€˜dead wrong.’

I pray all the time that they (including some of my family) will see the light and not get back in the injection line. 😞 I’m like many here that have tried to wake up loved ones… with a fractured family that rejects me.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

LOL nice

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

It's hard to understand how we ever got to that point.

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rolandttg's avatar

The combination of my two left tolerable attributes. Arrogance, and ignorance.

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Lincoln's avatar

At some point, the folks have to accept responsibility for their lack of personal research. Don’t be a lemming and jump off the cliff like all the other lemmings.

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annademo's avatar

And murder nursing home residents by infesting their facilities with COVID-infected people so that the elderly would die off faster.

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Lincoln's avatar

Yep…thank you Andrew Cuomo for all you did for NY.

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Michael Framson's avatar

Kathleen, the plan might be to do the murdering before the hospital, depending on how dystopian you want to go.

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P Flournoy's avatar

I believe my 89-year-old father died because of Remdesivir , which they gave him without my permission! he had dementia so only way I could talk to him was through doctors and nurses which was once a day. It broke my heart to see him go through what he went through because of that drug, but I’m glad he’s not here for all that we are experiencing now, and I know that he is elated to be with Jesus!

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Barbara ( PortlanderπŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«)'s avatar

πŸ’”πŸ’”πŸ’”πŸ’”πŸ’”

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Lincoln's avatar

Billions of $ to the healthcare system.

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Becky's avatar

The virus did what viruses do. It mutated, becoming less virulent over time. Yet the vaccines still are being promoted because β€œeven if you get Covid, you’ll have a less severe case.”

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Joseph Kaplan's avatar

Wrong. The vax is being promoted because Pfizer is in control and wants to continue getting every dime for as long as they get it out of as many fools who will continue falling for their grift

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Bitsy54's avatar

Beware of Big Pharma- the β€œp” is silent....

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Ironic but true--in Classical Greek, the p part of letter phi signifies something like a puff of air. Not a hard expulsion of air. At least that's how I was taught.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Clever!

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LMWC's avatar

The idea was always to normalize it into the flu. People get flu shots every season…and there you have it.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

Not me…never! In 2019 I had a horrible flu and said next year I’m getting a shot. COVID intervened, and honestly I will NEVER get another shot.

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MOMinator's avatar

I heard our fearless leader Jeff in an interview say that the covid debacle had turned him into a β€œnever-vaxxer”!

Me too!

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WP William's avatar

what about pet vaxxes?

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Karen Cudzilo's avatar

Do you think you could have actually had an early case of Covid?

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

No idea, guess it’s possible BUT I did get it in March 2021, the clammy, migraine, stomach issue and fever one. Lasted 2 weeks…that flu lasted 3 days πŸ€·πŸ»β€β™€οΈ

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TB's avatar

Some years back I took flu shots for a couple of years, and one of those years I got the worst flu I've ever had. So.

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Emumundo's avatar

That may have been Covid. I traveled in November and had the worst flu I can remember. I think I got it in an airport on the West Coast....

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Ray-SoCa's avatar

And flu shots may have issues.

Pre covid jab I was a firm believer in flu shots. Now after finding out about big pharma’s trial and data process, I wonder…

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JSR's avatar

All vaccines are poison

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Mary Ann Caton's avatar

I'm convinced that vaccines are another medical fad that is eventually going to be tossed into the dustbin of history. It's just taking longer than many of the other medical fads such as lobotomies, support for tobacco, and Premarin for menopausal women. The fact that vaccines have lasted this long is probably most likely due to the liability shield for vaccine makers, along with a (as much as I hate saying it) a superb marketing campaign.

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Beckadee's avatar

Childten's Health Defense posted about this book today. https://dissolvingillusions.com/

It's authors Suzanne Humphries MD , Roman Bystrianyk

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Freebird's avatar

A good source of information is a substack called A Midwestern Doctor. His stack is often long and technical, but you will have no doubts about any shots after reading his stack. They’re all bad and have been for a long time, he gives the reasons why.

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Peace's avatar

I believe the author of A Midwestern Doctor is a "she"

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AJ's avatar

Wonder no more. I was a believer too and as a nurse was confused why the hospitals were ramping up the coercion of nurses to get the flu shot. I cheerfully took it but never thought anyone should be forced to take it and gosh it turns out mandating it for health care staff is of no benefit to anyone. Here is a great flu shot resource to share with people you know .

https://physiciansforinformedconsent.org/influenza-flu-vaccine/

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AngelaK's avatar

I believe that the accumulation of yearly vaccines contributes to many health issues, including the epidemic of Alzheimers.

(Growing up as a baby boomer in an ethnic family of foreign born and 1st generation Americans, we knew NO ONE in the large extended networks of church community and relatives and friends abroad who ever had it!). One whom was spoken about had dementia; most grew old peacefully living in their own homes or the homes of their grown children.

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Natalie's avatar

I got flu shots every year and encouraged my adult children to take them. Never again!

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mary's avatar

Do not wonder. Thousands of flu vaccine injured!!!! My nephew is one of them. Paralyzed by flu vaccine. The neurologists who examined him all asked the same question….. β€œhas he had a recent flu vaccine?” Thank God for Shepard Spinal Center in Atlanta.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I believe my MIL years ago got guillaine barre syndrome from a flu vax. None of us knew any reason she came down with it. This was 35 years ago, you never heard of it back then. This poor woman in her 60’s got it and she had to be airlifted to Mayo Clinic. NOW because of these jabs it’s common knowledge, the common link, vaxes!!

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RunningLogic's avatar

Once they'd used it to kill enough people and kill the economy and cause all kinds of other damage πŸ˜•

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

True. That damage is done, and the enemy has breached the walls. The battlescape has shifted, and our "representatives" remain divided on how to address it.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Good point LMWC.

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AngelaK's avatar

It is called oligarch rule.

In 2014, Princeton University had concluded in a study that the US is, in actuality, these days, an oligarchy..influential individuals, big Corporations, strong lobbies. etc...run the country's public policies, and the people have little or no real say.

https://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-echochambers-27074746

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Kathy's avatar

And meanwhile, western democracies are starting to crumble. And the fact that China gave its people of vaccine that although useless, did not contain mRNA, makes me very frighteningly suspicious. The mRNA causes more long-term destruction, and possibly permanent damage to the human genome.

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WP William's avatar

America, land of the free vaxxines, and home of the brave and boosted! (brought to you and sponsored by Pfizer)

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WP William's avatar

The dam bioweapon they concocted and released upon us with Bat virus components was a "Ha-ha-ha!" giddy moment for them... it made me ill 3 times, wiped both an employee and my wife out to nearly going to ER. 2 employees had it late Dec 2019 before the official unleashing...like a long bout of energy depleting mono. It was intentionally designed to be a mild killer but a massive and easily spread uncontainable pathogen that would be better classified as a Fear weapon than anything else. They got to benefit from the FEAR Weapon in various ways while being shielded with fake information about where it came from, how it may be countered, that a vaccine would take 10 years to deploy....this primed the Globe for lockdowns, needing GVT $$$ and intervention to survive, clamoring for an "emergency" Vaxxine no matter how dubious, NOT trusting off-label products or quack dis-informers on internet that needed to be quashed by whatever means. Fear of social interaction and leveraging when say a church congregation suffered an outbreak, or when an anti-Vaxx person succumbed to the pathogen by bashing them as ignorant anti-science fools who endangered themselves and everyone else because of their BIG LIE beliefs. Both my vaccinated employees never fell ill and were puzzled that the rest of us would rather welcome getting ill to taking the shots. To me i just don't naturally want to trust authority--the Fake Superiority is offputting,. First they say 10 years and No way to trust a Trump Vaxx, then next after a Stolen Election, they want to mandate it so we can function in society with approval. The whole safe and effective mantra was not convincing it was marketing. Yes, the Bioweapon was quite harmful but NOT a society-crushing outbreak that required the society crushing response we witnessed. They make NO apologies, they would do it all over again the same way BUT WORSE. We are an exposed herd of human livestock slaves that are tormented by the empowered, the ultra wealthy, and Ultra Occult puppet masters who own and operate GLOBAL EVIL, INC.

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Robin Landry's avatar

Since the Left always says that words matter--let's just call the pharmaceuticals what they really are--Pharmakia--sorcerers. Or lets go all in on breaking down the word--pharm/farm: to tend & grow crops, Ki: life force.

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, the word pharmaki means poison, and poison was used in sorcery.

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

There is/was no virus. It is a bioweapon which is patented as a virus. A natural substance cannot be patented. It was in the bi- & tri-valent flu shots for at least the last 10 years. My ex died from a flu shot after which he got a nasty flu, couldn’t shake it, developed into bacterial pneumonia & that said bacterium went to his heart & damaged a valve. Had the surgery & it took a week for him to die. It was a horrible death. The bioweapon is also on the end of the RT PCR test. The olfactory bulb (sense of smell) sits on top of the cribriform plate above the roof of the mouth. Out of the bulb are filaments that travel down to the roof of the mouth & are involved in the sense of taste. That is why the PCR test was jammed up into the nasal cavity so that the bioweapon would penetrate the blood/brain barrier. Trust the science, your tax dollars at work.

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WP William's avatar

but transmissible airborne as well, it must be and on par with chickenpox??? Some suspected the Chemtrails having it mixed in too, but it could be active on surfaces for a few hours so really the methodology of getting it out into the population is variable. The fact They pulled it off so very well was exciting for them i'm sure, as previous attempts to get this scale and scope of disease in gear were limited. Perhaps they just went with a shotgun approach this time around as they knew it would otherwise just be hotspot flare-ups...it HAD TO BE expansive, unstoppable, and harmful enough to take full advantage of politically, economically, socially, medically, on a global industrialized scale.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

And then they can continue making money from their cancer drugs which will not cure, just prolong life.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

And yet he still takes credit for developing a killer vaccine. Hard to square that circle.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I think perhaps he does this so not to alienate possible voters who actually bought the beautiful vaccines, safe and effective, line.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

I agree. He also never admits to mistakes, a huge character flaw.

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GG's avatar

Would you rather have him operate like the rest of the GOP?

When every member of your party scrapes and begs and grovels over petty BS, you need someone to come in and say, "I'm not apologizing for anything. Go pound sand!"

I know it bothers a lot of people (even me, to some degree), but I much prefer his attitude to any other Republican in Congress.

Heck, think about George Santos. Low-life grifter who voted like he said he would and didn't apologize for being a low-life grifter. The whole democrat party is full of low-life grifters who don't apologize. They don't get punished either. But we throw our low-life grifters away. I guess our party prefers high-life grifters instead. And being without principles, groveling and begging forgiveness is the price of admission.

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

Don’t misunderstand me, I will vote for Trump a third time, he is the only Republican taking a stand. His character flaws aren’t sufficiently egregious to not vote for him.

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WP William's avatar

Superduper Tuesday...it's Trump or Haley, Biden or Uncommitted;

the masses are detached, dead to it all and could care less whatever way it goes. I'm voting Trump, the Lesser of Two Octogenarians, no matter his ineffectiveness and harm, there's just no way possible that THIS NATION and the nations of the world will survive another 4 years of Lockstep Authoritarian Joe Biden and the real powers behind his sock-puppet Presidency. It will likely mean allout conflict Nov-24 into 2025 as the Dems refuse to leave and transfer any offices of power back, but it IS REQUIRED no matter how violent and disruptive.

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daverkb's avatar

In case you missed it, here is an example of how one should speak to cockroaches, grifters and the like.

https://yandex.ru/video/preview/16427584267719648222

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WP William's avatar

George is a hero in a sense, total whackjob i'd never trust personally but dammit he was OUR whackjob!!! To push him out for having Democrat Party Values was intolerant and obscene!

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AngelaK's avatar

Do any politicians? Even many bosses rather die than admit fault. In our culture, saying I am sorry or admitting a mistake are, unfortunately, considered weakness.

Our culture suffers from the vice of pride.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

For sure. Few things are more difficult than repentance. To the un-reborn, repentance looks like weakness. To the reborn, repentance mends relationships and grows the Holy Spirit's power within us. But that's all foolishness to people of low character.

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JSR's avatar

Or just the role he’s been cast to play…

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WP William's avatar

He's a wheeler-dealer NY Mouth in Motion guy, quite imperfect and with NYC Values and manner that is off-putting to many not of East Coast origins. He is always in forward motion never back-steps, ponders, regrets, apologizing is a flaw and detrimental to that personality and impedes progress and results and only allows detractors and competitors to trip him up..it gives them an opening so why offer it to them as they hate you anyway and won't accept apology but will only bash you the harder for offering it. His imperfections should be CONTRASTED to the unabashed, polished spin and Lying done by everyone else around as they feed us inoffensive speeches perfectly written and spoken like a beautifully frosted cake that's actually a molded baked pile of bullshit. And as we collectively gag it down and swallow we all feign a smile and mmmm, so that we don't stick out as not appreciating how very tasty it is. Projecting Weakness empowers your enemies even as it may disappoint your fans.

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Kathy's avatar

Yes! No doubt he did many things so much better than the current administration, but it is critical that he admits how bad the vaccines are. Believe it is a tragic human flaw to be incapable of ever admitting that you made a mistake. I am not putting the whole blame on him for the creation of these poisonous jabs. They were in the works well before his time. But a leader needs to tell the truth. is he going to pretend that we don’t have legions of people sick dying and injured?

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Dakota Grace's avatar

Agree. I’m waiting for the apology tour. Not holding my breath though. It’s too bad he’ll never say the words because of hubris.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

The saddest thing to me is how easily Lemmings are led. Just because the deep state goes after Trump, they think he’s a good guy. Hint: good guys don’t support Genocidal Apartheid states nor give bullions of tax dollars to big Pharma.

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AngelaK's avatar

Then vote for RFKJR.

I would, but I think that Trump is needed right now. You take the bad with the good.

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Fred's avatar

Oh, please don’t! I have my own (minor) issues with PDT, but RFK will pull more votes from us than from the L and guess what, they won’t even have to cheat. Especially since Peters will not be on the ballot.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

You don’t get to tell me what to do. Why on earth would I vote for a genocide supporting tool of Israel?

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AngelaK's avatar

I wasn't telling you what to do! lol. πŸ™„

You mentioned big Pharm. RFK Jr is serious about dismantling them. That is why I mentioned him.

Sorry if I offended you.

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Tori's avatar

Your open Jew-hatred and illiteracy in history is a shameful thing for any putative adult to admit to.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Only if you are programmed to do so. Supporting what you perceive to be lessor evil is still supporting evil, and makes you complicit in their crimes.

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Fred's avatar

Do you not think the liberal agenda is evil? Just asking. No criticism.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

What do you consider the loberal agenda? If you are referrkng to the Democrat Party they are decidedly illiberal, more facistic corporatist than anything. I oppose all forms of collectivism, be it left or right, as they all deprive the individual of sovereignty, deny property rights, and the right to self defense. They ultimately deprive us of everything that makes life wort living.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Theft, lying, murder, rape, and genocide are evil. So yes. All one need do is look at the current genocidal rampage being perpetrated to know that state is utterly evil. They have lied nonstop about themselves and the Palestinians. They spy on the US, they bribe and blackmail our politicians. They murder doctors and journalists and babies and children and grandma’s deliberately. They are starving babies and children to death. If that isn’t evil, what is?

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AngelaK's avatar

So what and who do you propose?

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I’m not a lemming. NO CANIDATE is without SERIOUS issues. If I was running for president, I’m sure some people would find serious issue with me. There is no such thing as a β€œ wise king, who is good always, and rides a white horse to dave the day,” that idea only exists in Jesus. Our job is to make the best decision with the information we have available to us and TRUST that God knows hearts, convicts and changes them. If you can present a better qualified candidate, i’m all ears. Please don’t try an argument of moral superiority form one candidates to another because all candidates are human with major flaws.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Your comment belies your claim.

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Hoffmeister's avatar

Hey DB.....Her claim - " NO CANIDATE is without SERIOUS issues. " - Her comment - " Our job is to make the best decision with the information we have ...."

Your statement is batsh-t crazy....

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

As long as you continue to support evil candidates, your β€œoptions” will all be evil. The moment the people wake up and see through the ruse and refuse to vote for evil is the moment evil loses. The best decision is to stop supporting evil. Stop excusing evil. Stop defending evil.

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mary's avatar

All of us do not consider Israel to be an apartheid state as you do. Trump isn’t perfect but he is the best of the lot by far.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Who is β€œall of us”? Facts are funny things. They don’t change with your opinions. Israel is far more of an apartheid racist state rhan South Africa ever dreamed of. Do all of you consider starving babies and bombing hospitals and assassination of doctors and journalists as moral actions? I learned about Israel from Israeli Jews and Jewish historians. Dan Cohen, Max Blumenthal, Miko Peled, Aaron Mate, Norm Finkelstein and numerous others. The evidence is overwhelming. Just think, a country founded by Atheists claiming God gave them the land!

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

For whom would you vote? If the candidates are evil & you don’t vote, evil wins. I would rather have lesser evil (Trump) than a full blown psychopath (Biden & his controllers). We mostly live in shades of gray, not black & white. I do understand & sympathize with you over the blood bath in Gaza. However, our country is in free fall right now & we have to take care of our own first. Biden has proven that he has no intentions of doing that. Trump has (even with all of his shortcomings). It is a very challenging time to maintain our equilibrium.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

β€œ If the candidates are evil & you don’t vote, evil wins.” wins the prize for most illogical sentence on the internet. Please inform us on how voting for evil prevents evil. I agree our country is being destroyed, but you don’t seem to realize it is being done by the very politicians you voted for. It is planned, not an accident. You talk about needs here at home and you are correct, they should be what our taxes are paying for, but you then oppose me for calling out the genocide in Gaza- are you unaware that we are paying for this genocide? We are arming the barbaric IDF. That congress overwhelmingly voted to send an additional 12 billion dollars to corrupt Israel for the destruction of Gaza? Did you know Trump had our military aiding the Saudis in their attempted genocide in Yemen, and is totally under Israel’s sway, even more than Biden? I despise Biden and am appalled Americans were so ignorant or corrupt they’d vote for the most corrupt president ever, but Trump is not much if an improvement. He is still bragging about the Covid Jabs.

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Tori's avatar

Your lying is on an astonishingly reprehensible level. You use words of which you are wholly, inexcusably ignorant. 'Apartheid' and 'genocide' become profanities in your context. Your alleged *history* learned from *Jews* is preposterous. Blumenthal, for instance, is a Hamas apologist who denies the 10/7 massacre. You can not be a serious person, with the scale of these absurd claims and lies.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

I suggest you check history not CNN for Israel facts. Israel GAVE the Gaza strip to Palestinians in the 1980’s in return for a PROMISE of peace. It was less than a year later that the Palestinians violated their promise of peace AND refused to recognize Gaza as part of their own country, leaving their own people in horrible legal limbo.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

I suggest you consult history rather than Hasbara if you are actually interested in facts as opposed to propaganda. Your assumption that anyone disagreeing with you watches CNN, and more tellingly that CNN differs from Fox news on Israel, are yet more evidence of flawed reasoning. Just as Israel’s government has lied nonstop about Oct. 7, They have done the same from their inception. The claim of β€œ a land without people for a people without a land” was a bald faced lie. Look up the Nakba. You can get actual history from Jewish Israelis, as I have. Are you unaware that Jeffrey Epstein worked for the Mossad? That he used the rape of children to ensnare politicians and thus control them? Does it not strike you as odd how congress critters of both parties compete to see who can demonstrate more fealty to Israel? How β€œAmerica firster”Mike Johnson’s first speech as speaker pledged support for Israel? The fact that Biden, Pelosi, and you align on this issue doesn’t give you pause? What rights does Israel recognize for those in the illegally-occupied territories? But history aside, if you can watch the brutal assault on women and children and doctors and hospitals and poets and journalists, forcing staff out of a hospital, making them leave behind premie babies to starve, cutting off food and water, murdering rescue workers attempting to save shooting victims and still support Israel, then you should question not only your religion, but your humanity.

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Lynn Faulkner's avatar

The bottom line on RFK Jr is that he supports the genocidal slaughter of 30,000 innocent men, women and children. He has been bought and paid for by AIPAC. This is not a minor character flaw in an otherwise good man. It is the evil at the core of a man who has sold his soul.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

I’m not sure if RFK is bought or blackmailed. The vitriol he hurls on the people of Gaza is so over the top, it makes me suspect the latter.

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Lynn Faulkner's avatar

WaPo has published an article called "How RFK Jr. HIRING A BIRD SMUGGLER THREW HIS ENVIRONMENTAL GROUP INTO TURMOIL". Besides his support of Israel, this says so much about his character.

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Sam's avatar

Well 30,000 Palestinians have been slaughtered, but Kennedy says they are very pampered. That he can say that with a straight face shows that he is okay with whatever Israel does to them.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

It is so refreshing to find a person with moral clarity. Thanks for speaking up.

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Tori's avatar

Hint: educated people do not bastardize history and current events to torture a narrative that Israel is a *genocidal apartheid state*. Clearly, you have no functional literacy in genocide or apartheid.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Decent humans oppose genocide, they don’t apologize for it.

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Tori's avatar

Then you are not a decent human, advocating for Arabs to complete the genocide of the Jews in the Middle East that they were planning in the WW2-era. Yet still you are satisfied with 70% of Europe's Jews murdered in genocide, and need more. Do not use the word 'decent', ever again.

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Lincoln's avatar

Via…do you think Robert L. Peters would have done a better job with a sudden killer virus? Even stupid Fauci had people convinced we were all gonna die. I think it is hard to judge Trump for his actions.

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Debbie Beatty's avatar

Yet you are quick to judge Biden. How hypocritical. When you decide to run for office, your actions are up for judgement. If you can’t take the heat, stay out of the kitchen.

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Lincoln's avatar

I’ll take 10 Trumps to one stupid, corrupt, demented Biden. One can say a lot of things about Trump, but he has not lived off the public trough for 50 years, taken bribes from China, Ukraine, and who knows where else. How does one spend 50 years in Congress and end up a go zillionaire?

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Flippin’ Jersey's avatar

100% agree. Career politicians are an anathema.

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Dorothy Unleashed's avatar

When was the last time you heard that? Seriously asking because I haven’t heard a mention of it during the recent (late 2023-now) speeches. I took that as a positive sign. I haven’t listened to them all though.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

TRUMP WAS RIGHT

That covid was like the flu.

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Jaci's avatar

But he is Not down! Higher than ever and the corruption has been exposed and disclosed!πŸ‘πŸ§‘

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AngelaK's avatar

And he was mocked for saying that it was like the flu and would disappear.

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Carol M's avatar

And allowed them to declare a state of emergency in all states, which resulted in the voting laws and statutes being changed (without going through state legislatures) to enable them to steal an election in 2020….

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TB's avatar

The president doesn't get to "allow" states to do things. All rights not explicitly granted to the federal government by the Constitution are reserved to the States, or to the people thereof.

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WP William's avatar

YES, HE fumbled the ball at the goal line then complained he lost only due to the laser pointer in his eyes, the headset being jammed, the refs being bought off, the other team stealing his signals, his fullback not blocking, the receiver being bribed and getting a payout on the loss, the linemen not wanting it bad enough, but His own hands dropped the dam ball all else aside.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But our eyes have been opened.

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Lisa Ca's avatar

I’m pretty sure before theybstarted canceling everyone he also said it was like the FLU! Oops!

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Johnny-O's avatar

Trump was either rolled on covid or he was complicit. Either outcome means he doesn't deserve or isn't capable to lead us out of the disaster our country is in.

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MajorStorm's avatar

That wise man refers to himself as the father of that so called vaccine! I freely admit I was fooled into believing there were two different parties. I didn't see that the elections are really just selections. I was blinded by hopeium! Couldn't see that trump was selected to keep the 80 million armed American patriots pacified! Until I heard him say " give me 15 days to slow the spread"

Once I heard that i had to wake up to the truth that all they had to do to get me was to have the MSM bash trump over anything & everything. What a brilliant plan. For those who are against the genocide jab yet for its proud daddy, its time to wake up! No one is coming to save us!

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liz's avatar

Really? If da coveed would go away like the flu, then why, pray tell, did he launch a military operation to inject the world with POISON? Don't let his evil worst deed be forgotten. He has the blood of at least 17 million people on his hands, as they all do.

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Romgrp's avatar

I just happen to see a commercial last night while watching a garbage reality show....it was for a single test product, now available. One line shows up for the FLU and another if it’s CONVID. πŸ€¦πŸΌβ€β™€οΈI made comment to my husband... well gee whiz, look at that! The flu is back.😝. Right On, CDC! πŸ’₯

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

Yes, and 9/11 brought us DHS and TSA, et. al.

And the next crises are looming on the horizon with more "peace and safety."

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WP William's avatar

the more they FAIL (aid/abet/incite/attack) the more $$$$ and power they demand and get.

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Alan Davis's avatar

Excellent weekend summary Jeff!

Revival is the only way this land will once again thrive. Be it a part of the old America or a full on remake of its entirety not sure. No politician or godless legislative body will save it. Only in a large portion of the population coming to Christ will save it. πŸ™

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Mary H.'s avatar

β€œIf we ever forget that we're one nation under God, then we will be one nation gone under.”

Ronald Reagan

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DS's avatar

AMEN!!

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GG's avatar

The only thing that will save us is to "humble ourselves and pray and seek God's face and turn from our wicked ways." Not Trump, not RFK, Jr., certainly not Biden, not Haley... there is only One who can save us. It becomes more clear every day.

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Susie & Security's avatar

God bless Jack Hibbs and Christian leaders everywhere!

The Bible says we are to respect the authority of those God has put in government leadership positions…, which is no small task. Regardless, I live each day grateful for God’s grace while reminding myself that, no matter who is in office, Jesus is still King. πŸ‘‘ πŸ™πŸΌ Praise God! ❀️

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Deb's avatar

Yes, but we are to be about HIS business this side of heaven. We must not sit back and do nothing.... that is not scriptural! And too many Christians use that as an excuse for not standing against this evil...

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GG's avatar

I'm not advocating "doing nothing." I'm advocating first, humbling ourselves, praying, seeking God's face and turning from our wicked ways. What happens next will be up to God, but we'll know what He wants us to do. We have gone our own way long enough and look where it got us.

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mary's avatar

Read β€œLetter to the American Church” by Eric Metaxas. Another wonderful daily podcast. Brillant author.

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Laura Barrett's avatar

And we the people need to take action in our families, communities, churches and states. We feed the broader system.

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GG's avatar

I've felt a real need to get involved somehow but I'm completely turned off by politics. I don't think politics is the answer anyway. I keep thinking I need to fast and pray for our country. I think I'm going to gather like-minded people to join me in fasting and praying for our community and country once a week or once every other week. If other C&Cers would do the same across the country, maybe we really could see a revival in this country.

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TB's avatar

That may very well be _more_ effective than attempting to change politics in your own strength when you don't have the gifting for it!

Things seem to happen when people pray Godly prayers. So.

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WP William's avatar

local GOP; they are a mess indeed and mostly stalled out and betrayed by leadership and compromised officials; inject prayer and good deeds and words into your volunteer work, it is small action to be sure, counter evil and uphold good even in, or especially in politics, a small way to stand up for your community and at least briefly meet with candidates and elected persons face to face. Not confrontational unless it needs to be, not all-consuming of time and energy, it is something outside of work and church and whatever to interact with mostly good, decent, giving people and leavening the Lump of the GOP or at least being a burr under the saddle is time not wasted.

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Robin Landry's avatar

This is a war for souls and the more pressure they put on us, the more we recognize the ploy. Good & Evil is the real war. Finally, I'm not disappointed a preacher. They sure forgot their flock during covid.

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Temcol's avatar

Many false teachers are being exposed just as it is told to us in the Bible. You can find many true Bible teachers who did not close their churches for more than the agreed on few weeks and then did teach still during that time on streaming. My church set up chairs and EZ- ups in the parking lot to continue to gather. Rain or shine or cold. We were there going verse by verse. No one had any idea what this illness was. Many churches handled it really well but also learned by it. We will never close our church again. We learned that our governments not have our best interest in mind.

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Jaci's avatar

But many are coming to be spiritual!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Our country has periodically gone through Christian religious revivals--the Great Awakening of the 1740's, the tent revival of the mid-19th Century (perhaps others as well, I don't remember).

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WP William's avatar

I mention the Black Pentecostal Revival 1890s-Asuza St. and into Billy Graham and ending Segregation. People have almost entirely given up on "Church" (too infiltrated, prodded, and co-opted by the State or reclusive or Rotary Club like) and true Spirit-Revival is sure to fall again soon.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

We do wake up now and then!

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Kim's avatar

Yep. We’ll be empowered to do more than wield whips and tump over tables.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

But we must at the same time remember Deut 32:34: Vengeance is mine, and recompense, for the time when their foot shall slip; for the day of their calamity is at hand, and their doom comes swiftly (RSV)

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MaryAnn's avatar

But, Jesus came to save us from eternal damnation. He was not about saving the oppressed from their oppressors. His agenda transcended politics. His Will will be done and nothing man, nor Satan, does will stop it.

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Jan Dickmeyer's avatar

I love this post today !!!! The congressional prayer is the Lord in action.

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YYR's avatar

Doesn't have to be Christianity, per se, but atheism is a license to be evil without moral compass.

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WP William's avatar

Revival came to the Native peoples at similar intervals as Americans, the whole Joseph Smith thing (FreeMason?) was ginned up in similar fashion, Catholicism appears to move through waves of renewal after periods of decline and worse.

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Gigi Gummerson's avatar

I still wear your SO…shirt proudly! I remember those FB days, I finely felt I was reading from someone who was as logical as I was. I wouldn’t have survived without your posts Jeff. Many of us truly appreciate you stepping in that minefield.

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Florida Grown's avatar

Remember the FB post would show up in our news feed with the picture of an Excel spreadsheet?! And I still rock my black and grey So. hat!

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WP William's avatar

I missed all that, my eldest daughter somehow sent me a stray C&C email and i was hooked, i like to think of at least one decent soul, a legal mind/professional that may be rational, logical, and honorable enough person as well, and then a professing Christian (without being a humorless money-focused, religiously legalistic--who'd want to see that DAILY???). A family man, not self-acclaiming, a worker, a warrior, and wise, even correctable at times. Who is this guy?? C'mon Man!? If i had fallen into the educational-legal system industrial complex i would've wanted to work around this guy and whoever put him on this course.

Maybe it's all Fake, maybe he's not who he presents himself as?? Til hard conclusive evidence is presented to the contrary, i'll believe the witnesses' testimony and enter it into the record, and keep partaking of the daily interrogatory.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Where can I get a SO... shirt?

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Jeff Childers's avatar

C&C Shop! Check the end of the post

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Done and ordered. Should be a great conversation starter.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I love mine!

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Peace's avatar

Have you met any fellow C&Cers with your "So" shirt?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Not yet!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

I'm sure it's high quality and perfectly SO...ed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

β€”β€œBut the bottom line for today is, it’s not too late for any of us. Don’t get left out.”

Amen to that!! πŸ™

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Trudy's avatar

That sentence, spoke loudly to me too, brought me to tears…in a good way. Praying.

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DS's avatar

Me too......

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J Walker's avatar

That's the best news of all!

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BelleTower's avatar

Running, yes! Romans 12:14 β€œpray for those who hate you and bless those who persecute you.”

Those verses are not necessarily for the benefit of our enemies but are to keep our minds focused on Jesus and to keep us from bitterness.

Also though, it occurred to me one day that God’s power has access to EVERY HEART. There is no human evil outside the reach and realm of God! I thought of Saul and that he’d been salvaged from the absolute dredge for God’s purpose and we can be sure He will do more of that. Of the self sanctified celebrity cess pool, He will still pull His own, from the evil halls filled with NWO goons, He will find and save His own! Oh boy, the spite I have toward certain individuals among those … I better take care! Heaven forbid I curse one of His own!!! How could I possibly know which smug horrible rock star will be called, which transhumanism pushing clown will be claimed by the Almighty, a servant who joins in the work long into the day??? Lord cover me as I face these evil people who threaten me and my children, guard my heart and keep my hands clean. Amen

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Robin's avatar

A big AMEN!

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Sarah Bee's avatar

Amen

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

Through the Lord’s mercies we are not consumed, Because His compassions fail not. They are new every morning; Great is Your faithfulness.β€œ

‭‭Lamentations‬ ‭3‬:‭22‬-‭23‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/lam.3.22-23.NKJV

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Robin Esau's avatar

God's mercy, His compassion, His faithfulness are amazing, often overwhelming my soul. So thankful✝️

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RunningLogic's avatar

Indeed!!! β€οΈπŸ™

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Tom's avatar

I needed to see this today!

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

The Lord press on with these Scriptures I shared in C & C, they’re not coincidentally.

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FourWinds's avatar

I don't know what is up CDC's rear end, but if they think this is the way to gain back public trust, it ain't gonna happen. Gee, they finally agree with us conspiracy theorists. I'm still not impressed.

Meanwhile, back at work, 2 coworkers are convinced they have "covid". The look in their eyes is that crazy, possessed covidiot-stare. And, mask sales are up.... again. One customer was lamenting all we had was those blue face diapers. He wanted something nicer looking, like black. No matter what the CDC says or does not say, these people Will. Not. Give. "Covid". Up. ***SIGH***

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walk2write's avatar

When my husband and I were sick for almost two weeks recently, almost everyone we talked to about it asked if we had gotten tested. Why would we get tested for something (the flu, Covid, whatever, and who cares what it’s called) that we knew would require plenty of rest, time, and fluids to recover from? My brother suggested we take Paxlovid. Haha! Fat chance, I basically told him.

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Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

And isn't it amazing how when you tell someone, who tests so often they should own stock in the companies that produce them, that the CDC even said the tests were unreliable they just look at you like you just unzipped your human costume and are standing before them as a gray?

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Merry McIntyre's avatar

πŸ‘½πŸ€£

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Beckadee's avatar

LOL

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The Great Resist's avatar

I totally agree - why is anyone testing for any respiratory virus? What would you need to do differently if it was β€œflu” vs β€œCovid”?

I am now a believer in Dr. Haider’s high-dose vitamin C regimen. https://open.substack.com/pub/syedhaider/p/is-high-dose-vitamin-c-a-panacea

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Peace's avatar

The Great Resist - thanks for the deep dive/rabbit hole with this new doc, Dr. Haider. Lots of great info on the site.

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The Great Resist's avatar

My parents and brother-in-law were able to get Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine from Dr. Haider’s telemedicine practice a few years ago, which is how I knew of him.

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SB's avatar

Yes, I'm so ready to get back to the good old days when people don't ask if you've tested. I'm so sick of people asking if we've tested for Covid. I usually respond "why? Why would we test, not like there's some magic cure we can get if it is covid, we'll do the same thing no matter if it is covid or not so why the heck would we test? Seriously, what's the point?" They usually then agree because what are they going to say?!

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ASK's avatar

The covidiot state is probably due to breathing in all of those N95 TVOCs. How do those people still wearing masks not realize they are breathing in toxic chemicals and that the air (despite chemtrails) is probably safer? So sad.

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FourWinds's avatar

They are just so brainwashed. That is all I can come up with.

So I've been having severe breathing problems... constant congestion for months. I cleaned up my diet, which was not that bad to begin with, and it helped. I spent nearly all of last weekend outside, even with the chemtrails (which I was photographing) and felt pretty good. My breathing had all but cleared. Went back to work and within hours, was coughing and wheezing again. The vents in that place are caked with black soot and one of the covidiots keeps spraying Lysol. So in addition to masks (which I did not wear) there is so much chemistry and filth around. I truly do feel better being outside.

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Cynthia Ford's avatar

You might check out nebulizing glutathione, or buying sublingual NAC glutathione spray. My friend was tanking really badly with COPD and we found the protocols for this in support group messages boards. His PA was flabberghasted by how he had returned from a serious exacerbation and said she'd talk to the pulmonologist about it, then, naturally, Henry Ford here in Detroit which has gone from A to C in ratings, never said another word. He found an older drug that helps which he now orders from outside the US as the cost goes down dramatically so doesn't nebulize any more. The lungs have a microbiome, the air itself has a microbiome, so we are meant to be breathing in outside air and that they put us inside instead of outside 4 years ago seems purposefully evil. I just heard Joe Lapado on Tucker say he thinks there is something of the Anti-Christ about the shots being disseminated now.

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MaryAnn's avatar

We had β€˜sick building syndrome’ as the only fresh air allowed to enter was when a door to the outside opened. Most floors were carpeted and windows served to let in light but did not open. Employee sick days and lost productivity sparked a reevaluation of indoor air quality. Improved air filtration helped significantly.

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CraigN's avatar

Let those people be please. Thinning the herd....

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Beckadee's avatar

I just asked my cousin whose husband had a kidney removed yesterday in Birmingham AL if everybody was masked up. Her reply- doctors and nurses weren't. Only the blacks. Speaking of black folk I posted yesterday a podcast- That Standard of Truth Podcast. This negro as she calls herself vs black bred has some interesting takes on her sisters and brothers. I only found her after seeing one of her videos pop up after watching Fani's letter to God at the Big Bethel Church. Which I would recommend. Here is her take on Joy-less-Reid. https://www.youtube.com/@TheStandardofTruthPodcast/videos

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BelleTower's avatar

I love her, thank you

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Beckadee's avatar

Your welcome, I have not listened to her long podcast but her videos are short enough. Watch the one a month ago re Fani at the Big Bethel Church it's only 8 mins long. The reparations one is good too.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Ugh I am right there with you on the frustration with this ridiculousness!!

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YYR's avatar

Naw. I suspect this is a victory lap that we got through the worst covid iterations, thanks to Xiden, the CDC and NIH, and now it's merely like a flu.

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WP William's avatar

they'd just say "the detractors to our original evolving-evidence based guidelines were hyper-critical and non-studied, unreliable and mis-dis-and mal-sourced, non-evidentiary and intended to sway opinion for profit or other non-science, non-health based outcomes." The situation these years later have led us to a revision based on current data, available research, current trends and evidence and fuller understanding of the complexities of this disease."

See how easy to deflect the fact that the ignoramus, Right-winger, Foil-Hatted Community of grandma-haters and Apocalypse-peddlers were correct in their original balking at the media, political, and medical establishments' guidance from 2020-current-(actual Apocalypse)?

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Crixcyon's avatar

Is that One Flu Over the CDC's Cuckoo Nest? Viruses are as big a scam as the DC Swamp riots and the prosecution of Trump.

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MKnight's avatar

Sending the IRS to investigate Calvary Chapel? Did we need any more evidence that the IRS is just a weapon of a morally bankrupt government? Seriously.

I sincerely appreciate the real-world legal analysis you put out there for us, Jeff. And to do it with the wit you do - well, that’s just the icing on the cake. 😁

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RunningLogic's avatar

I would like to see more pushback on how the IRS is used as an intimidation tool 😑

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Vonu's avatar

I would prefer to see it abolished along with the Fed.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes I would prefer to see both the IRS and the Fed abolished too.

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Jamison's avatar

Remember the TEA Party?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yup 😞 Prime example of this πŸ˜•

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Vonu's avatar

That was John Hancock's scheme to eliminate the British tea that was dragging down the price in competition with his tea smuggling operation.

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Robin Esau's avatar

Same! And other agencies as well, like the way HHS went after Eitham Haim.

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RunningLogic's avatar

Yes!!

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🌱NardπŸ™'s avatar

πŸ’―

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

If Calvary comes to need help, the C&C Army stands ready.

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Anne Clifton's avatar

I think Jack Hibbs would tell them, "bring it on!"

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mary's avatar

I recently learned that Senator LBJ introduced the amendment that allows the tax exempt status of religious leaders/churches to be removed if they criticize politicians or speak out on political issues. Prior to this, it was our spiritual leaders and pastors who from their pulpits preached against slavery and other issues that created who we are as Americans. Without them we would still be English citizens. Yes, the IRS is the gestapo.

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Vonu's avatar

The IRS functioned totally differently with different purposes then the IRS.

The CIA is America's gestapo.

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RU's avatar

I mean, what legitimate purpose could they possibly serve these days? We live in a world where software can do their job more accurately and more efficiently, and somehow their organization continues to not just exist, but grow? Kind of tells you there is more to it than just processing tax forms. This might be my biggest "aha" from the covid scam - just how many companies and gov't agencies should not exist, do not make enough money to exist, and yet, somehow (*cough* taxpayer dollars *cough*) still exist.

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SB's avatar

Talk about a good use for AI...

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The Great Resist's avatar

Why is the IRS one of the largest purchasers of ammo? The possibilities for their β€œlegitimate” use of that seem limited.

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Barbara ( PortlanderπŸ˜΅β€πŸ’«)'s avatar

Pastor Jack also was warned that he will most likely be swatted.

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WP William's avatar

I'm with Jeff, it's about dam time we fight this out---the STATE wants to own the church as licensed subsidiary entities, turn them into mere stale lecture halls where professors speak a banal impotent message of--"be good and kind to others (migrants and child abusers), the gods love you just how you are, submit to and pray for government, your struggles can be assuaged with positivity and mental health care insurance, put a bit of coin in for our ministry to the under-housed community for Winter sock program. Let's go.....IF YOUR Church or Pastor or Priest or Guru took $$$ Incentives for Vaxxine programs YOU are the spawn of SATAN. Now the STATE wants to provide grants for Church security while depriving attendees to defend themselves, even while inciting Marxist-Atheist, Trans-Grievance, and other Leftist groups and individuals to ATTACK churches and religious schools. We need more bi-partisan $$$$ for mental care too!

Look at What Colorainbow Dems are doing in my state...sick hateful pukes want to diminish school and church safety and offer a Wall of Separation-breaching grant for State-approved security systems (maybe Dominion will supply them)....Fk off you Anti-Nationalist, Anti-Christian, Anti-Constitution, pro-Hamas, pro-Pedo-molestophiles and Freaks. Public-Private Partners and Incest is our new soft-fascism.

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MKnight's avatar

I want to say, PREACH. πŸ”₯

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Vonu's avatar

If you went back to the beginning of the IRS, you'd discover that it was created by the Federal Reserve System to remove their expansionary inflationary excesses to prevent them from being manifested in the greater economy, before the wealthy elite started using them to steal from the middle class.

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AB's avatar

Yes. We are all on a list and will be next. This terror has to stop.

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Vonu's avatar

Stop playing their game and it will stop by necessity.

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SM Smith's avatar

One Flu to rule them all

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devoalan's avatar

One flu to bind them.

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nancylee's avatar

very good. so since this one failed, another nazgΓ»l on the way

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TeacherLori's avatar

My preshhhhhussss.😈

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Robin Esau's avatar

I have prayed that God would raise up Pauls in our day. Could Rogan be one? Let's keep praying for him!!!

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

That's a thought! I was shocked on hearing his words. But indeed, the most 'unlikely' are often chosen. I suppose it's their very previous intolerance which renders them most valuable as spreaders of a message.

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Kathy's avatar

That reminds me of the doctors that once believed, all vaccines were safe, and now that they have seen how bad the Covid jab is, they are beginning to ask a lot more questions about the whole childhood schedule.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Thanks! I didn't know that---I am out of that particular vaccine group, and my children must be the ones to take up that battle for their children.

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Peace's avatar

As a grandparent, you may have more time available to keep up with the ins and outs of the childhood vaccine news, and be able to keep them in the loop and educated on the latest info.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

You are correct and incorrect--I do have the time, but the knowledge would be unwelcome. A great irony.

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Peace's avatar

Arrggh! So frustrating, I'm sure!!

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Robin Esau's avatar

Absolutely!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

It appears we can count Jordan Peterson in that camp. I love how he takes Bible narratives and says, basically, you can take these as folklore if you prefer, but the truths they reveal about human nature are unassailable. Keep praying for JP too.

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TB's avatar

Yeah. I would love for him to have a "C.S. Lewis moment" -- where he suddenly realizes that these myths he has been drawing moral lessons from are **"myths" that actually happened**.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Exactly. He’s a principled and fearless warrior for truth, and little by little, I think the Sprit is nudging him. 1 Timothy 2:3-4 comes to mind: β€œThis is good, and pleases God our Savior, who wants all people to be saved and to come to a knowledge of the truth.”

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Jamison's avatar

Interesting!

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🌱NardπŸ™'s avatar

Or Peter?

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PrsctNative's avatar

I’m reminded of Isaiah 5:20-21:

Woe to those who call evil good

and good evil,

who put darkness for light

and light for darkness,

who put bitter for sweet

and sweet for bitter!

Woe to those who are wise in their own eyes,

and shrewd in their own sight!

I’m aligned with Jeff’s optimism that tides are turning around one drop at a time, but also reminded of the continual humility that God requires to focus our reliance on Him.

Have a great weekend C & Cer’s. β˜•οΈ

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Gabby_Normal's avatar

"the Ukrainians only dug a few ditches and put up some β€œPutin sucks” signs."....I needed a laugh!! You have been on a roll lately Sir!!

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🌱NardπŸ™'s avatar

Read that one out loud to the hubby. He almost spit out his morning beverage 🀣🀣.

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RunningLogic's avatar

I know, that one was particularly hilarious!! πŸ€£πŸ˜†

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Beckadee's avatar

That was hilarious- should bring 2 nn

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AngelaK's avatar

Yes, very good one!!πŸ€£πŸ‘

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WP William's avatar

Putin Sucks! Let's Go Brandon!

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M. Dowrick's avatar

If Nathan Wade even had a shred of the prosecutorial experience he claims to have, he should’ve kept far from Terrance. Farther away than he’d have kept from a maskless, covid-positive person on an airplane. With an uncontrollable cough. At the very least, Nathan should never have met with Terrance in public. What a maroon.

Oh, this comment is priceless.πŸ’•

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Agree!!!

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TB's avatar

This is the sort of thing that makes people ask the question: "Diversity hire?"

(And that ends up doing damage to legitimately skilled and qualified "diverse" people.)

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Seaquinn's avatar

MAROON 🀩

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MaryAnn's avatar

Agree! I think it shows he is ignorant and/or protected. I suspect he presumes to be above the law. He has Fanni to protect him.

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Dr Linda's avatar

It’s gonna be a good day

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Vonu's avatar

Sorry I was forced to reply to you to get a "Post" button but that is Substack's new dysfunction.

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Dr Linda's avatar

Weird, huh?

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Vonu's avatar

Substack has a long history of moving from dysfunction to dysfunction, in my experience. Since Firefox claims that Substack slows it down, I can't help but think they are codependent.

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TB's avatar

Don't know about you, but for me the substack comment sections slows down EVERY browser. I think they didn't account for the mass of comments C&C gets.

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Vonu's avatar

If C&C slows things down with a "mass of comments," one has to wonder why Youtube doesn't shut down the Internet:-) Most of my computer's slowdowns can be attributed to both of my free wifis being supplied by an ISP called TDS Telecom, which is routinely mentioned as slow by those who use them in disparate locations around the country. I use an internet speedometer provide by speedcheck.org and they routinely give TDS Telecom negative stabilities for upload and download speeds and lantencies in seconds. Employees in both locations say their in-house internet service sucks as well.

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TB's avatar

Yup I think substack isn't properly optimized to handle so many comments. If you look at Youtube it only loads the top comments, and loads more on the fly as you scroll down. But that's a lot more work to write the code (and then fix the bugs that will appear). And most stacks don't have all that many comments, after all.

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TIM's avatar

I've used the same financial planner for decades, and recently my advisor retired and i was introduced to my new one. They had an accent which sounded like a German one, but told me they were from Ukraine. Well, this had to lead to questions. The entire family left 15yrs ago because of the government grifting and corruption. Said the obama/biden administration were, in honest Ukrainian eyes, as corrupt . They felt the US would endanger their country, destabilize it..and here we are!

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ChrisB's avatar

My husband works with a man whose wife is Ukrainian. Her entire family is there, she speaks to them every day. He told my husband three years ago not to believe ANYTHING coming out of Ukraine, the entire country knows how corrupt everything is there, and the average Ukrainian wishes for the Russians to take control because the Ukrainian government is so hated.

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KATHERINE JERNIGAN's avatar

Poor Ukrainians losing so many men in this senseless war! 😞

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TIM's avatar

Wow....but at this point, not surprising.

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Kat D's avatar

How can this be if they are doing the fighting?

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RunningLogic's avatar

Oh, very interesting!

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