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Tennessee Governor Bill Lee has now signed legislation into law that bans any form of climate engineering operations over the State of Tennessee. Courageous Tennessee lawmakers in the Senate and House had previously passed the legislation which put it on the governor's desk, it has now been signed into law. Though other states have tried, Tennessee has succeeded due to their solid, straightforward and simple bill. Now other states can follow suit by utilizing the Tennessee legislation as a template for their own. The following is an excerpt from the legislation that is now the law:

"Prohibits the intentional injection, release, or dispersion, by any means, of chemicals, chemical compounds, substances, or apparatus within the borders of this state into the atmosphere with the express purpose of affecting temperature, weather, or the intensity of the sunlight."

We need every state in America to follow what Tennessee has now successfully accomplished.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhaFfMSuBK8

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Politico Phil's avatar

Do not miss this one. In this video is the best evidence presentation I've seen about chemtrails. It begins at minute 14.

Do not miss this.....................................

While You Were Distracted

https://rumble.com/v4on5jx-while-you-were-distracted-gloves-off-w-joey-gilbert.html

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Politico Phil's avatar

Here is a weather forecaster explaining how the weather is being modified..................

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5WvOwToTyV/?igsh=ZWRpaTdlbGVyYWl2

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Susan Catherine's avatar

Agreed! Nikki did an incredible job explaining what is happening.

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Based Florida Man's avatar

Interesting how the CDC logo resembles chemtrails.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Yikes. Center for Disease Conspirators?

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John infinity N's's avatar

Center for disease causation

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Lynn's avatar

Center for Disease Creation

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Erin Fight's avatar

Thank you for these videos! I pray something like this makes it to Kemp's desk to sign-- even though he's a DAVOS devoteé and "Hate Speech" law (signed, just like Noem & DeSantis) supporter. Ugh.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

Kemp is bought and paid for (or was threatened). Don't get your hopes up.

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CStone's avatar

Threatened for sure. After his daughter’s boyfriend was blown to smithereens by the RAT Party/Deepstate cabal, as well as the ethical lead investigator of that murder.

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Erin Fight's avatar

Oh, yes, how I know.

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Paula's avatar

What?! Kemp signed a "hate speech" law? Oh, my gosh, what a slithering snake that man is. How in the world do Republican governors sign "hate speech laws" except they're bought and paid for. DeSantis and Noem too? This tells me there's no hope even at state level.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

😱😱

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Politico Phil's avatar

WOW... that'll blow ppl's minds.

Dena, post this again early tomorrow so everyone has a chance to see it.

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Dena's avatar

Would love to - but I’m on the West Coast!

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Little.Lambsie's avatar

Thanks very interesting

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DS's avatar

Thank you, Phil, for this video. Confirmed a lot of questions I had regarding Chem-Trails and the like.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

That’s very interesting. Ive been casually researching this topic a few months since noticing the trails and low level thin cloud cover which was not here years ago.

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FourWinds's avatar

Standing. Ovation!!!! Absolute ovation. I'll be watching radar from GOES or Windy to see if they still get the odd clouds floating in from other states - my guess is they will not. And if said clouds float in from another state with those properties, my guess is TN might be able to go after the manufacturers/makers of them.... which might cause a little domino effect. We'll see. Tennessee just made my list of places to move even though it is hot (I am always hot).

Ohio, get your act together!

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FGB3's avatar

Oh Tennessee is my ancestral home. Then after numerous perambulations, we wound up in the next best place, TEXAS. Confirming that old saying, "'T' for Texas - 'T' for Tennessee". I drove through Tennessee once on my way from Texas to (of all places) Pennsylvania's Delaware Valley, and the countryside looked like Heaven to me.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

For now. Look at the terrorists flooding across your border. People forget Ted Cruz almost lost his last election. Millions have (purposefully) flooded in since then.

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FourWinds's avatar

I did, yes - thank you. I'm going to be mad about the spraying or whatever they were doing during that eclipse for a very long time.

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Maureen ODH's avatar

Great news Political Phil…. the question is… how will Tennessee enforce it?

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Politico Phil's avatar

Well, I got a couple of surface to air missiles I could sell them.

I think what this does it to raise the issue to the national level where the general public can be made aware of it. The push back will HAVE to come from the states and Tenn set the example to follow.

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Porge's avatar

Lol! Joe Biden says you can't own or buy a cannon..... but he never mentioned anything about surface to air missiles 🤔

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Politico Phil's avatar

So true...lol.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Yes…how will ONE state enforce something that is happening in EVERY State in the United States of America!

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CStone's avatar

They should use the National Guard and shoot the planes down.

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Politico Phil's avatar

From what I have been able to tell, most of the spraying is being done by the military. Makes sense since the crew would be "under orders" and not allowed to talk about it.

I live under the flight path for planes landing at Tyndall AFB. A few days ago, I saw a beautiful, two engine jet come overhead at low altitude obviously to land at Tyndall. It didn't look military as the beautiful paint job was not the colors a military aircraft would look like. I could clearly see what looked like rows of nozzles under each wing so I thought to myself, that is a chemtrail sprayer. My guess it was a contract plane working for the AF. I have seen pictures of both AF and Navy planes spraying over the interior of the US using long-range cameras.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

In the video you shared, Niki showed satellite of cross Pacific trails 300+miles long and said perhaps commercial planes were outfitted during the 911 shutdown period. She also said ships are pushing out the trails while crossing oceans. If this is the case, it’s beyond military. :(

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

A bit radical wouldn’t you say…they would just flee and fly up to Kentucky or over to North Carolina!😉🤔

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TiredCitizen's avatar

And will most certainly go to SCOTUS

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Befferz's avatar

Has to start somewhere..

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FourWinds's avatar

I think they first have to be able to identify what it is and where it comes from. I've been watching Ohio skies for several months now and reporting on sky trails and associated weather/clouds and I've noticed the problem does not always start locally - it can float in from another state. I would hope TN would hire a team that researches how this happens and what happens when engineered clouds float into the state. If they are serious about it - and I think they most certainly are - I'm sure they are already on the problem.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes! In central TX we were in the eclipse totality path. But weird low level clouds came in mid morning and messed up the view. No rain. No height. Not dark. The clouds were odd and without substance.

I was outside over 2 hours watching the clouds and it seemed blown on. Just a haze.

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EightDaysaWeek's avatar

I have a T that says: "War is peace, freedom is slavery, ignorance is strength"

This one: https://t.co/gp7BK55eFB

"War is peace" refers to the idea that by placing the nation in a constant state of war, individuals tend to ignore any discontent they may have with their government, or their harsh way of life, thus ensuring a perpetual domestic peace.

"Freedom is slavery" refers to the notion that absolute freedom can lead to chaos. This means that the individual in such a chaotic society has no rights, no protective laws, no plan or tangible structure. This would lead to the individual becoming vulnerable to the vagaries of a potentially inimical world and therefore slave to forces beyond the control of the individual or of society.

"Ignorance is strength" can be understood as being analogous to the aphorism "ignorance is bliss." It follows then that if one is not concerned with truth, one's existence assumes a level of contentment not attainable otherwise.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

And no reference to George (Eric Blair) Orwell or 1984.

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Politico Phil's avatar

His work was an intellectual "vaccine" I got in high school.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

My wife had t-shirts made at the beginning of Covid with the same quote, properly attributed to Orwell. She gave them to similarly-minded family and friends. She still wears it.

I had a few made with the 'INGSOC" symbol from the 1984 version of the movie. We used to wear them to our local Costco and Whole Foods in Michigan mostly to looks of outrage with a few encouraging ones.

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Deb S's avatar

I have a “1984 was not intended to be an instruction manual” T-shirt. It would amaze me when people would say things like, “I graduated in ‘85!” with a big grin on their face. I would just sigh and say, “I graduated in ‘83” - and then I would just watch the confusion on their face. (I would stop short of encouraging them to go back to school, because they clearly didn’t learn enough.) However, once in a while, I would get a knowing nod or wink from someone, or they would come up and whisper, “love the shirt”. They restored my faith in mankind.

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Doug's avatar

I was working a really dull electronic assembly job in '83, so I brought my Walkman to work and my little headphones and listed to the (essentially) audiobook of 1984 read on NPR radio. So ironic that NPR ended up interpreting it as an instruction manual... That was back in the days before NPR got the majority of its funding from NGOs - it was much more "listener-funded" back in the day.

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Doug's avatar

And in support of that last comment, I offer the following article:

https://www.thefp.com/p/npr-editor-how-npr-lost-americas-trust

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SadieJay's avatar

Yeah, it was and is like a secret club. Just leave me a note under the 3rd rock by the tree on the corner. Dead drop and all that. I do not discount the fact that despite people 'waking up' it just might come to that.

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... It took me a second - Duh! Inside joke for smart people!!

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Deb S's avatar

🤣 In fairness, it’s harder to understand from a comment than it is to understand by actually experiencing it. But the cognitive dissonance was always amusing!

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Deb S's avatar

This is the one hubby got for me:

https://www.amazon.com/1984-Supposed-Instruction-Manual-t-shirt/dp/B07PCWJKFB

I’ve pretty much worn all the lettering off. Probably time for a new one! 😉

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Politico Phil's avatar

LOL... I'm surprised that anyone knew what the T's meant. I mean really, how can anyone who has read Orwell be outraged by the T's? Socialism is a mental illness!

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

" I mean really, how can anyone who has read Orwell be outraged by the T's?"

You have to understand the northern Detroit suburbs, particularly our former neck of the woods. Lots of U of M and other college-educated families with "Hate Has No Home", "BLM". and "Thank You Healthcare Heroes" yard signs.

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KB's avatar

all of those signs are here in my on-campus neighborhood...I live surrounded by the most WOKE silly BS...UTA Arlington TX...we just refer to them as 'the democrats'...the worst always put up the 'have you had enough? vote biden' signs...I wish I could ram that sign right up their ass now.

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John Cougar Misanthrope's avatar

'have you had enough? vote biden'

Ironic, at the very least.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Exactly!

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Beckadee's avatar

In other words, full of retards.

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Doug's avatar

Thank you Healthcare Heroes - now take your shot and nobody gets hurt!

No shot? Now you're a Zero!

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Tio Nico's avatar

I go that vaccine in college. It had a follow up booster dose called The Trial, by Franz Kafka.

Both have proven quite effective over the years since. a few years laer I received a dose of another follow up vaccine, Sometimes a Great Notion.

Very effective treatment protocol.

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daverkb's avatar

Very Good. Schools as Mental Vaccination Centers.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

The fact that those that were outraged even had a clue what that was is scary, being that you’d think they, more than anyone, would get it. But no.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Commiserate sigh. There should be a "two nn" warning.

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daverkb's avatar

How about:

Peace is peace.

Licentiousness is slavery.

Ignorance is poverty.

Freedom, for example, based upon God's law is restraint. It is never chaos. In the United States, whatever that is, there is only chaos which is the absence of Law. Ask DJT.

The original statements were satire on mind perversion. And there is, by the way an unsavory price to be paid once Mankind becomes all too clever. For example, and if you want Slick Cleverness, there the Sustainable Everything, Climate/Carbon, Agenda 21 stuff. Ya know! Those Clever Cleaver totalitarian controls.

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SadieJay's avatar

This→"Those Clever Cleaver totalitarian controls." And we are not talking about The Beaver's parents either. Nailed it.

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daverkb's avatar

Poor Beaver? Like most of us, Beaver by now has probably lost both parents. And also, I could cry up enough crocodile tears over where we are now as to fill up a house and save some on the water bill! And all I can say is. Dear Time Machine please take me back to Beaver Land!

I went to Lowe's today to buy a a rubber mallet for some deranged horrific outside yard project which DeWife has hatched up. I finally found the mallet section and picked out the cheapest one. It is the most elegant of all rubber mallets, a Spartan blonde stick with white rubber on the end. And so I go to pay for it, and I hold it up for the nice lady clerk to see and I ask her if she knows what it is? She says, "No." And I say, "It's a Wife Trainer!" She says, "Does it work?" And I say, "No! But it works pretty good on husbands ... but only with repeated applications."

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

😂😂😂

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SadieJay's avatar

I agree about the time machine. But, we would go back and just have to get forward to here because the only way to get through this is to get through it. No around it. It would be nice if I was a lot more aware than I used to be, especially regarding my kids and their shots. Good luck with your rubber mallet project. Make sure you only get hit where it doesn't show. A white rubber mallet? In all my years in vast areas of construction and knocking the crap out of 'stuff' I have never seen one that is white. Is it made with recycled milk jugs?

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daverkb's avatar

Jugs with the milk still in it? Nope! I think it's quivering eggs whites. Or possibly whale blubber rubber.

The real accurate part is being much, much more aware. But given the lack of information, how could have we been? This came home to me back in 2011 when me in the Constitution Party and the local Tea Parties were running around uncovering Agenda 21 and learning how all of this stuff going on was hidden in plain sight within the United Nations apparatus. And even then Agenda 21 was such Lunatic Stuff that it was hard to believe. But there it was.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Question is, how do we pass on the wisdom we have learned to the next generation so that they are better armed than we were?

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SadieJay's avatar

And...TA-DA. Here we are.

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Peter GL's avatar

does that mean we are "strong peaceful slaves"?

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Yes but how much ‘tooth’ does the TN law really have, that bans climate engineering operations over the State of Tennessee?

I believe the planes that spray the toxic chemicals, seed the clouds, etc. do they really respect state boundaries! HAH! HAH!

This state activity and laws ‘banning’ this type of activity is all well and good but the GeoEngineering of the ‘weather’ starts at the Federal Government level. And is happening in EVERY single state in the United States of America. It’s happening in EVERY state out in the Southwest and the Western US!

We need to be more like Mexico whose President and Government has banned Geo engineered Weather all over the country!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Gotta start somewhere, and obviously It’s not going to happen federally. Tennessee is making a important statement

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AJF's avatar

Yes O. K. and if something is legislated people will know it's real. Many people have no idea the weather can be modified.

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FGB3's avatar

CORRECTION: 'Many people have no idea that the weather IS modified'!

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I understand but “making a statement” does not necessarily change any policy about the practice. I’m a bit of a pessimistic skeptic, about anything the government can be stopped from doing. They are out to ‘poison’ us whether it’s through the skies or through an ‘injection’ or Big Pharma meds that everyone is on these days! 🤔😒

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FGB3's avatar

"I’m a bit of a pessimistic skeptic...".

Yep you are. It's a 'half-full, half-empty' issue.

And thinking has energy for good or ill.

It's easy to be fatalistic; it's difficult to have faith and courage and finding the good wherever it exists.

Jeff is a half-full kind and he's sending out good thinking energy.

Try it for a while. It won't hurt Little Lupe.

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Tio Nico's avatar

Mexico are wise enough to ALSO have banned High Fructose Corn Syrup.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Really…that country loves it’s sugary drinks and other goodies!

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Tio Nico's avatar

yes theydo.. at least the city bred folk. but HFCS is banned in that country, probably a mai reason more do not die younger than they do. Stuff can't be used or sold in the country, nor can products using it as an ingredient be sold there.

Sad that when they come here and keep swallowing all that super sweet junk, the HFCS does its work and brings greatly shortened life and serious health issues.

FUnny thing, though, the farm and rural folk who mostly grow what they eat are not hooked on the sugary garbage the city dwellers guzzle and slurp. They remain healthy and live far longer, even when they move here. They've simply developed a different set of taste preferences.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

I’ve lived in rural Oaxaca in southern Mexico. I’ve been visiting that region of Mexico for over 30 plus years. The rural people do drink those beverages…the only thing that precludes them from doing so on a larger scale, is economic in it’s origin. They can’t afford to spend their limited funds, on those kind of things. They do make a ‘aquas’ made out of fresh fruit and water, but they seriously sweeten them with sugar. (Yes it’s likely a cane type of sugar, not HFCS, but sugar nonetheless.) And with the changing weather patterns in Mexico, the rural and farm people aren't necessarily able to grow all the food they eat.

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FGB3's avatar

They use real sugar. Coca-Cola made in Mexico is available in stores here in WA. Personally I prefer Mexico's premier orange drink, Jarritos Mandarin Natural Flavor Soda With Real Sugar.

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

Oh yes..a family member who enjoys coke once in awhile drinks the coke in glass bottles that are Mexican. Made with sugar rather than corn syrup. A handful of stores carry them

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

Hee! Hee! I have a case of “Mexiccan Coca Cola”. I drink them very occasionally and share them with my sister in law. A case of Mexican Coke lasts me for a very long time! Where I live in SoCA you can buy the cases of Mexican Coke at Costco! 😉😝

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FGB3's avatar

Just to put in a small factoid, it is happening in EVERY single country on Earth as far as I can see. That's real totalitarian power!

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

México supposedly has banned it.

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FGB3's avatar

I wonder about some of the BRICS. Maybe Russia? Maybe China?

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FGB3's avatar

Ha-Ha yourself Little Lupe. Old Chinese proverb: the journey of a thousand miles begins with one step. I would love it if La Republica really was sincerely moving toward Libertas.

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Politico Phil's avatar

I think I saw video of Mexico still getting sprayed.

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ASK's avatar

Yes! Very proud to be a (transplanted) Tennessean now! Hoping they also pass an anti-WHO, WEF, UN resolution too. Hope this spreads everywhere.

Good question as to enforcement, because it is happening here on a frequent basis. But I guess we’ll see when July 1st rolls around.

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FGB3's avatar

For some years now I've been looking at our predicament, and the only way I could see our salvation would be to oppose the Federal monolith with a valid political entity, i.e. a State. Ever since Mr. Lincoln's War the sovereignty of the individual States has been abrogated. But it is still there in various pieces. It would be very difficult for the Federales to attack a State. For one thing, it would galvanize many other States with a once sovereign status that still resonates within the hearts of liberty minded people. This was exhibited in small form by the States (25?) that joined Texas in the lawsuit over the fraudulent Election of 2020.

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KB's avatar

when the ENTIRE STATE OF TEXAS was solid white with snow all the way to the Galveston coast in a nightmareish blizzard for 10 days Valentines 2021, lowest temps on record...it was a siberian polar vortex howling thru relentlessly for days, I knew that it was unleashed onto us JUST LIKE COVID/FLU BS. Especially when corrupt energy companies were early 'on the make' to literally screw us even to this day on unwinding the natural gas spike$$. They also knew the plebes would suffer thru power grid failures....it all seemed orchestrated. I do believe God handles these ppl in His own way....actually there is Karma built in to your own deceitful path that you choose to take advantage of others(Gods ppl)...be it turbo prostate cancer or whatever...you bring it onto yourself somehow.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Very happy about all of this, but my question stillr remains: are they spraying nano-tech on us? If not, how is it getting into all of us? Is it in our food/water? Both that and arial spraying??

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Anita Söderman's avatar

Yes, judging from the findings of Dr Ana Mihalcea the same scary nanostuff that she has found in the blood related to the injections and shedding, now has been found to also appear in the chemtrails.

In Sweden this winter we had a lot of spraying during grey, cloudy, luke warm days, while every second day was fine. That scheme showed all winter long, whereas we used to have nice blue skies, snow and rather chilly temperatures in the passed times.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Dr. Ana has done a lot of great work around this issue. Glad to hear her name referenced. When we moved to Arizona 10 years ago there was hardly any spraying going on, now it happens most days. I hate not having autonomy over my body!

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FGB3's avatar

Oh now you are really down in the Major Weeds John. Or rabbit hole. Whatever. They may well be. That very thought, which occurred to me after watching Tucker's interview with that fellow Dave Grusch, was that this program could be bigger than we ever thought. In other words, here's a thought experiment, "What If...what if the Davos Syndicate has joined forces with non-human aliens that are evil"? It's so preposterous that no one would believe it. Which is good for the bad guys both terrestrial and extra.

This combines with the medical folks who began with Covid, moved to the vaccines, and then began to see the world begin to expand and display vast horizons. They are thinking about the Technology being used. The gene therapy angle. The nano particles in the vaccines. Morgollon's. And they begin to wonder: where did the technology come from? see Anita Soderman's post re: Dr. Mihalcea.

If, as the Georgia Guidestones tell us, our Lords and Masters want a human population reduced to 500,000,000, ever wonder how they are going to do that? And why? Then cast your thought upon all those abduction stories. The people abducted by the little grey men were taken on board their craft and examined in a surgical type of room. Tissue samples were taken. What would the aliens do with that tissue? Study the DNA!

You want to kill 7.5 billion humans? how? not a bullet in the back of the head. Not gas chambers. And so on. No, you make your attack on a CELLULAR LEVEL. It's exponential. From one person to two: two to four; four to sixteen; sixteen to ninety-six, and so on. It's a bio-weapon. IT'S A TRAP!

That's what I sort of imagined. It all began with Dave Grosch's security clearance level. What about the whole alien thing could be SO important and SO awful, that the whole thing has to have been kept under wraps for going on at least 75 years?

You git my drift? And yes, see also Anita Soderman's post re: Dr. Mihalcea. She was also one of my sources, I'd forgotten her name.

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striketheroot's avatar

By the wording of this law it will allow aerial spraying that has the express purpose of depopulating the state. While I applaud the Tennessee chutzpah this law is a lot like legislation to control climate change, a wee bit of "tilting at windmills". Here on the West Coast they can and often do just lay 'em down over the Pacific and let the winds do the rest.

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Frontera Lupita's avatar

It needs to be addressed on a National level. What can one or even a few states ban on weather modification and chem trails accomplish? It’s just another example of the Tyranny of Government that has been controlling and manipulating us all for many, many years! The Scamdemic was their most obvious ‘scheme/psy-op’ to date that they pulled off, which far too many fell for the propaganda, lies and the ‘killer EUA Injections’ associated with it.

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TiredCitizen's avatar

And that isn't going to happen. We don't have two parties in this country. We have one united in destroying the US.

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Cindi's avatar

It’s kind of like “climate change”. The West is committing suicide &creating misery for their peoples w/ ludicrous pie in the sky unworkable rules, regs & punishments to get to “net zero” while the worst polluters like China & India & other countries focused on modernization & prosperity are building hundreds if not thousands of coal plants & relying on cheap oil & gas.

It is absolutely admirable that some states are showing the cojones to fight chem trails but unless all states do, it’s like the global “climate change” suicide-scam. But it does have to start somewhere. I just know that all blue states are aligned w/ the WEF-IMF-globalist reset so they’ll never go for it. And there are probably red states that won’t either.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Another reason for TN envy. Just like FL envy. While I sit in MO and watch filibusters and flamethrowing.

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AJ#2's avatar

Lots of bad laws made it through TN. It is far from a red utopia and is very RINO actually. Some good bills get through.The legislators live here and don't want that stuff coming down on their families either.It is pollution and that in every other circumstance is very regulated.

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Maui gal's avatar

Post 2others this: lawyer Good Lawgic/rumble filed lawsuit to stop Trump's Gag order....to be heard before the NY court of Appeals and he wants a prominent lawyer to speak @ upcoming Hearing because of likely snobbish jurists. Please help to contact possible high profile attorney

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Renea Buchholz's avatar

💯💯💯💯💯

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TIM's avatar

IF Jurors are supposed to be "your peers," they should all be older, white, republicans. This state has politically polarized this case against Trump. The jurors who claim they can be fair, are probably lying to push the progressive agenda and condemn Trump, probably promised cash in the end....there's no way a spotlight figure like Trump will get a fair trial in NY. Now, if it were Obama, and he was caught with the actual smoking gun in his hand, after killing someone, standing over their body...the jury would set him free...hey..just like OJ

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Yes...there is very little "justice" in the "JUSTUS" SYSTEM!!

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Peter GL's avatar

reminds me of Henry Ford who said "Any customer can have a car painted any color that he wants so long as it is black". You are free to have any opinion as long as it agrees with me

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Ha! Mark Twain observed that intelligent citizens read newspapers, follow current events, and form opinions. That excludes them from juries. Therefore, only the least informed citizens judge defendants. Could be some truth in that.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

That is so right. Simple observation…

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Trilby's avatar

Just us.

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Valerie's avatar

To be completely honest, if I were in the jury pool I’d probably lie to get on the jury just so I know that Trump would have one person with logic and reasoning skills on it. But I’m not, so it’s but a pipe dream.

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J_in_Ontario's avatar

I would feel completely comfortable with stating that I will not be biased - the prosecution has to prove its case, otherwise innocent. And I am an honest and disinterested enough person to be willing to listen to the prosecution's case.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Do you live in Manhattan, "J"? (smile)

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J_in_Ontario's avatar

:) No, and there's many reasons why I'm happy I don't, but I certainly hope Trump is able to get some fair jurors.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

"Fair" jurors in this trial is an oxymoron - the entire "travesty" is a huge 'zit' on the face of our country!

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Valerie's avatar

Jeff is right… there is no way any President can get an unbiased jury. I hate everything about these political trials. Just disgusting.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Not to the elite--they're laughing their foolish "arses" off!!

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Absolutely

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Dena's avatar

You’d be a ‘stealth’ juror. It happens.

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Valerie's avatar

🙋🏼‍♀️ yep!

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LuAnne's avatar

I looked up the definition of "jury peers" because I wondered the same. Everything that popped up on Google (surprise, surprise!) says peers simply means "fellow citizens". Heck, that could be anyone.

I'm going to research some more using different sources. If anyone here @ C&C knows the answer, please enlighten us!

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Neil Kellen's avatar

"fellow citizens"? Wow, Google is excluding "newcomers"...how racist...

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Tio Nico's avatar

Based upon contemporary writings (founding era) a peer is a person of similar social and economic background and from your own community. How many of the rabble dragged into this court to be sifted as jury fodder would meet those qualifications? Homeless bms cannot sit on a jury trying a business owner, or even a steady employee of some business. Cannot come from a different rea. Recent import from Chicago could not sit on a jury of a farmboy in Oklahoma.

But juries are, these days, fulled with non-peers because the rules for jury selection have been fabricated with no relation to 'original intent".

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Yes. Peer typically means something in common such as employment, education or affiliation. Random people in a city are not necessary peers.

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Concerned mom's avatar

Peers for Trump SHOULD AT LEAST be white business owner billionaires.... How many of those would be willing to hand off their affairs to others so they could sit in court for Trump????

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

Haha! That would be a peer and would seriously limit jury pool options!

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Seems they are going to lead this right into change of venue.

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CStone's avatar

You need to watch Judge Joe Brown talking about OJ’s trial. It was an eye opener for me. His comments on ‘Big Fanny (Willis) are hilarious.

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Johnny Be Real's avatar

I like how he compared Wade’s pay to that of the POTUS salary and Fannys own salary. Wow

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Dick Davis's avatar

Great comparison

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Based Florida Man's avatar

@RepThomasMassie "Speaker Johnson has led the GOP to pass:

1) an omnibus that spends more than Pelosi’s highest year

2) an expansion of the domestic warrantless surveillance program

and this week he’s pushing

3) Schumer’s dream bill which contains $100 billion of foreign aid, mostly for war."

https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1780188864759357941

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Based Florida Man's avatar

more doom posting:

@RepThomasMassie 8:08 AM · Apr 16, 2024 118.3K Views

"Friday, we have one less Republican in the majority as Rep Gallagher leaves instead of finishing his term.

As a going away gift, Speaker Johnson plans to force the senate to take up Gallagher’s bill to ban tiktok and give Presidential power to ban websites.

But still no border."

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Al Juarez's avatar

They've got the goods on Johnson, whatever "the goods" might be. He's been swallowed by The Swamp.

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The Shepherd knows's avatar

They can threaten him, that’s one thing, but let’s say your dear family is threatened, well, then that’s a whole other thing.... just tell me what you want me to do and I’ll do it, just don’t hurt my family. 😉😒

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Dena's avatar

Seems Johnson’s been “briefed” by alphabet agencies.

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FH's avatar

More likely the IC.

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Julie Ann B's avatar

Why did Rep. Gallagher decide to abandon his post when he did instead of completing the term he was elected to or when the voters of WI. had the ability to replace him for the remainder of his term?? In other words, how was he compromised and by whom? What a shameful, gutless thing to do!

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Cheryl Caraglior's avatar

As Dan Bongino says, "All democrats are democrats but not all Republicans are Republicans. Some Republicans are really Democrats."

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Politico Phil's avatar

Check this out..............................................

EXPOSED: The RINO Plan To Ban Trump From The 2024 Ballot Is Underway

The GOP establishment donor class obviously appears to be up to something...

https://rogerstone.substack.com/p/exposed-the-rino-plan-to-ban-trump

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I read that the other day: disturbing and will result in a COMPLETE loss of legitimacy of the US government. And we may see a secession movement that has a chance of succeeding. We live in very interesting times.

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John A George's avatar

Since at no time in history has this type of mass desertion occurred, it leads one to believe it's being orchestrated by our globalist masters. Are there any demoncraps suddenly retiring?

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Sunnydaze's avatar

Wholly shit. I KNEW they were up to something!!! This makes me sick to my stomach. They are so evil. They are always 10 steps ahead of us. This is really discouraging. Might this be the reason Trump seems to be putting a plug in for Johnson? Knowing if he’s ousted they are so very close to keeping him off the ballot? We’ve been scratching our heads on the flip flop of Johnson and yet Trump “likes” him. Now it makes sense. This is all so disgusting and shameful. I’m losing hope in anything good happening.

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Politico Phil's avatar

And once again I am a victim of the deep state's political theater. I know hope springs eternal but, really, I have got to quit being so gullible!

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NAB's avatar

Same

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AngelaK's avatar

**Reporter: What is the plan land Republicans who say they’re hearing from constituents and have a real problem with any funding for Ukraine. What if that bill is carried by Democrats? How do you approach that?

**Speaker Mike Johnson: Well, listen, the Ukraine piece is clearly on the Republican side, the most controversial one, I think, the one that has the most difference of opinion. I think there’s an idea that lethal aid is different than the humanitarian aid.

If you convert some of this economic assistance to a loan, that makes a lot of sense to a lot of people. But I think the American people deserve to have it explained to them why it is in America’s interest to assist here.

Importantly, 68% of this package is the replenishment of our own munitions, our own weapons. Those are American jobs that build upgraded weapons and ammo here. A lot of those things need to be explained. They need to be analyzed independently. I think that we will probably do that here in this legislation and make it clear to people what exactly they’re voting for and why. I think that’s really important for the American people.

😡😡😡

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SusanMc's avatar

Word salad

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AngelaK's avatar

All boiling down to: war is good for the economy. 😡

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RU's avatar

Sounds like public health or education system speak, to paraphrase: "they don't understand why we're right and infallible, so we need to explain it to them in a way people as stupid as them can understand." Amazing how these people never see that it's them and their ideas that are the problem; and it's not that we rubes just don't understand how awesome they are.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

“The American people deserve to have it explained to them.” How about “Congress deserves to have ‘representative’ explained to them”? “Compromised pompous narcissist” isn't part of the definition.

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Astragale's avatar

Money to the arms industry.

Money TAKEN from American citizens & centralized to arms dealers.

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FGB3's avatar

Well what can we expect? The whole Federal Government is Foxtrot Uniform Bravo Alpha Romeo.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

😡🔥

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

"Brownie, you're doing a heckuva job." OOOPS...I meant Johnny.

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MatthewJohn's avatar

Trump asked for two exceptions: to be briefly excused for his son Barron’s high school graduation, and to be excused for his Presidential immunity arguments at the Supreme Court, which are both scheduled within the next few weeks."

If I were advising Trump I would tell him to miss the graduation but attend the immunity arguments at the Supreme Court. If this lower state court judge wants to jail him for attending arguments at our nation's highest court, on a serious constitutional issue, let him. He's already making political points on the graduation he cannot attend, and anything this judge would do about attending the Supreme Court arguments would only help Trump politically.

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D&R’s Gma's avatar

I’d donate to his bail bond. Perfect scenario to send a giant message. And of course the optics of not letting him attend his sons graduation. Your idea makes spectacular sense! Could actually be his finest campaign hour! This judge isn’t the brightest bulb 💡 in the pack 👏👏👍

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AngelaK's avatar

It doesn't matter to them..they are soulless puppets of people like Soros.

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NAB's avatar

Me too. I am really upset about his recent statements on abortion (specifically the Arizona issue), but the way he is being treated by the justice system cannot stand.

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GenEarly's avatar

You are Upset over the Constitutional rights of States vs Feral DC Tyranny??? Using the Central Gov to impose the immorality or morality of Abortion Law is Equally Stupid.

It is legally a State Decision, and an Individual Decision. Lobby/Petition?Vote at the State level. Do Not Advocate for Moar Central Gov Authority. Trump is Correct, the Supreme Court got it correct.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

And, by the way, Trumps position reflects the same position as about 70% of the country.

We have got to move away from this litmus test mentality. No body is ever going to get everything they want in a democracy.

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NAB's avatar

You know, Trump's position reflects the same position on 70% of the country....Nobody is ever going to get everything they want in a democracy.

Okay. Let's say Trump's, and 70 % of the country agreed on the right to own slaves. Or how about the right to have sex with minors? Still feel the same? Why or why not? I mean, nobody is ever going to get everything they want in a democracy, right? Sorry slaves. Sorry kids. Sorry dead, pre-born, vulnerable babies.

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GenEarly's avatar

Laws are passed in State Legislatures against the Crimes you mentioned. but That is Only one Social Control.

Morality is another Social Control derived from the Individual Conscience.

Do not Conflate the two, other than Laws are determined by Culture in a Republic via individual voting.

Reality is as you laid it out whether you Agree or Not. In a freer society/state you can campaign for change, In a less free society/state you can leave, hopefully sanity prevails, but there are obviously no guarantees.

As an Expanded Earth example, a Society of Cannibals are quite satified with their diet, a Society with Polygamy is quite satisfied with multiple wives. So within a Broad Societal Framework, change can occur, But Only by GettIng the agreement of the habitants of that society.

Without Agreement STRIFE Results, Chaos & War.

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Irunthis1's avatar

Thank you!!! We do NOT want it enshrined into FEDERAL LAW that all abortion UP TO DELIVERY is legal which is what they will try to do. We MUST use our best reason in this case--I too feel that every abortion is a child that dies and my soul weeps for them BUT YOU WILL NEVER win this argument with all the liberal women in this country -- and trust me here as a conservative woman--we are FEW and they are MANY. We must use good sense in this battle--restrict it to the fewest weeks possible, allow exceptions for rape, incest, and mortal danger to the mother, DISALLOW the funding of ANY abortion by taxpayer money, and LET STATES MAKE THIS DECISION. Preferably before or after the regular elections on a special stand alone bill so as to keep the stink of the whole thing off our electeds who already stink to high heaven as it is.

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NAB's avatar

Irunthis1 - believe me, I agree with you. I know the cards are stacked against us. My husband and I have given tens of thousands of dollars in yearly donations to crisis pregnancy centers. I was thrilled to see Roe reversed (never imagined it would happen in my lifetime) but I have also seen how so many people will abandon a pro-life stance seemingly without any hesitation. It is disheartening, to say the least. My criticism of Trump and Kari Lake is how both are NOW signaling that some states are going too far in their restrictions. Again, as I've argued above, imagine taking that approach with our nation's other great sin - slavery. There was a time when people accepted, en masse, the right to own people and do with them as one wished. I argue you can draw a parallel between the justifications made for both slavery then and abortion now. I think Trump is better served by saying simply, "the reversal of Roe - a decision which from the outset was based on faulty legal reasoning - has returned the issue to the states where the people, through their legislatures can enact policies reflecting their values." Done. But stop throwing pro-lifers under the bus.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

Roe V wade should never have been made law. That was the worst decision to come out of the court in 75 years.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

second worst - look up Wickard v Filburn...that is the case the opened up the federal government to unrestrained growth and control.

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NAB's avatar

No. I want to be clear. Returning the issue to the States is the best thing we can hope for on abortion AT THIS POINT. What I object to is then condemning a specific state which is exercising its right to make abortion policy as it sees fit. I will also say, however, that if abortion is the taking of a life then I don't know how we have any intellectual consistency in agreeing with the view that says, "well, 70% of the population is okay with killing THIS type of person." Imagine accepting this framing on slavery today. AGAIN, I know most people have been so heavily propagandized, at this point, into accepting abortion as a "right" that my view is in the minority, but the acceptance of abortion as a legitimate practice is still evil. Sorry, but it is.

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

He should not miss his son’s graduation. Not for politics and not to bend to a corrupt judge.

It will happen once in his life and Barron deserves to have his dad there. He’s given up enough to serve this country without adding that to the list.

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P Flournoy's avatar

“You” would go to jail in order to attend the Supreme Court immunity presentation? How would that benefit your ability to speak out about your campaign? Have we heard from Navarro since he was jailed? It was used as a way to shut up Jeffrey Epstein. Seems like a last resort not a choice he should make.

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SB's avatar

That lower court judge is drunk on power. People should pay attention. The left screams that Trump wants to destroy democracy while the left is actively destroying democracy.

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TB's avatar

I wondered whether he could ask SCOTUS to order him to appear in front of them, and override the lower court... though I suspect it doesn't work like that...

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John Henry Holliday, DDS's avatar

The joke is that only stupid people are unable to get out of jury duty. And it's completely wrong. Conservatives, especially in Blue jurisdictions, need to get on juries and potentially prevent a fellow conservative from cooling his heels in prison for a lengthy stay. Get rid of the mindset that views jury duty as an onerous burden. This isn't the year 2000 anymore.

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Trilby's avatar

I would happily volunteer to be on this jury, whatever the cost to me personally. I would be SO unbiased!

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Peter GL's avatar

Trillby, I would venture to say if you read and post Coffee & Covid you are too smart to be SO unbiased

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Sal_Peenx's avatar

Men in power would not have affairs if women kept their legs crossed. This truth does NOT hold water when the men in power are also predators, like the pig of a gov turned pres we had in the 90's.

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Lyndsay's avatar

Karen McDougal does claim to feel very badly about having an affair with a married man (Trump). She was and still is absolutely gorgeous and could have and should have been more selective and honorable to herself. I don’t think things turned out well for her.

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SusanMc's avatar

My husband is an attorney in our small town. Only once was I summoned for jury duty. I’ve always wanted to serve jury duty, but alas… wasn’t to be. I was struck (my husband wasn’t involved in the case in any way). Probably by the side who didn’t want thinking & informed “peers” hearing their arguments.

Never gotten a summons since. At least 30 years ….

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Peter GL's avatar

an aunt was once excused from jury duty. When asked "do you think you could be impartial" she replied "just look at him [the defendant]. He looks guilty!" She was never recalled.

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Granny Annie's avatar

I'd like to try that if I ever get called, but I don't think I could do it with a straight face. This is so funny. Thanks for the belly laugh! 😂

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Astragale's avatar

Peter, that’s what I think about Fauci, Tedros & Bourla...

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Only once summoned in 30 years...odd.

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Irunthis1's avatar

They have ways apparently of permanently striking a person from jury duty. And then there are ppl who are summoned multiple times per year despite the rule being less often than that in most states. Maybe it depends on the size of your county and the number of trials held.=

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Deb S's avatar

Never once have I been summoned, and I’ll be 59 next month. My daughter (23) was summoned, but was excused because she was in college four hours away. I feel invisible. 😢 😆

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MaryAnn's avatar

My one and only summons came 3 months after I retired. I don’t believe in coincidence. The case was settled as we were ready to be interviewed.

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Deb S's avatar

Hmmm. I retired two months ago. I may get a summons yet! 🤣

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Anthony's avatar

I've never been summoned. I'm 46.

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Deb S's avatar

Maybe we’ll both get a chance someday! 😄

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carily myers's avatar

Try being married to a cop/detective.

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Irunthis1's avatar

I agree wholeheartedly. I keep getting summons and sign up to go but every time the selection is canceled the day before/of the trial. I'm in a fairly medium town (less than 100k) but boy would I love to be on a jury. I guarantee they won't know what hit them. I'd probably get ax'ed just for having a history of being robbed at gunpoint tho. Who knows? I've never made it that far.

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NAB's avatar

Totally agree.

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Paige Green's avatar

I was summoned two times but had to contact the court, both times for the same reason - I’d recently moved out of their jurisdiction. That was 30 years ago. I think I’ve been blackballed, haven’t been called since 😂

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FourWinds's avatar

I got out of jury duty - NOT that I was attempting to - because I asked if I could not serve on any case involving sexual assault because I had been assaulted myself. The judge said since you never know what can happen in a trial, even if the case is not about abuse, the court has had to pay for jurors to see psychologists after the fact. So, they excused me. It's too bad because had it been a non-violent case, I would have found it fascinating.

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Trilby's avatar

I said yesterday I wouldn't bore you all with my jury duty tales, but this one was fun. In a courtroom full of jury duty people, the judge brought us in batches to the jury box. The case was about a guy who was mugged for his wallet one night. The prosecution’s lawyer ask us if we would be comfortable convicting the suspect based on an eye-witness identification. I said no, I wouldn’t be because I just read an article about how eye-witness identifications are iffy at best. “I just couldn’t do it.” The judge then cleared the courtroom of ALL potential jurors, and they had to start over with a new batch.

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Emumundo's avatar

My last stint in jury duty was great. I tried to get out of it as I had a newborn baby that I was nursing. Judge said he had 1/2 day trial he could put me on and that would satisfy my service. I was already there so I said fine. Well... we sat for an hour waiting to be called then we were moved to where they were going to pick the jury. And waited. Lawyers came in and then the defendant was brought in. This man had angry, crazy eyes and stared at us the whole time. It was scary even in a courtroom. Then his lawyer went over to talk to him and he started beating up his lawyer! Bailiff finally dragged him out of the room and the judge apologized and said we were free to go and thanked us for our service. Best jury duty ever.

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Trilby's avatar

Wow...

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Melissa S's avatar

Reminds me of the film, Armed & Dangerous, with John Candy, Eugene Levy, and Meg Ryan. Great film with a crazy eyes defendant, reminiscent of Charles Manson.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

I was once given "number 3" after the first round of questioning, meaning I was a near certainty to be selected. It was a murder trial and the facts were pretty gruesome. In the second round of questioning I was asked if I would be comfortable with a sentence of 3 years or less. I responded "If the defendant is found guilty of this crime in the manner presented, I would have a very hard time accepting such a light sentence."

I wasn't selected. Gee, I wonder why?

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Trilby's avatar

Right!

Btw, I wasn't trying to get out of jury duty, I just thought it was wrong, what they were asking us to approve of.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

same here

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

In jury selection, they ask what sentencing you’d comfortable with? I didn’t think the jury actually chose the sentence.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

Yes they did. I don't know about jury involvement in sentencing in the state of Texas. Perhaps this was just a way to see if there might be a plea deal to be had.

Anyway, it was a pretty awful murder and 3 years would have been almost as big a crime, IMO.

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Maggie Think of Me's avatar

I made it to the 4th round of jury selection for a tobacco case.... I skipped through those rather seamlessly, then out if the blue, the defense asked me if I knew anyone who grew tobacco.. "Um, why yes. My grandfather had the largest tobacco allotment in the southeast..." I told the truth, and I was gone in a NY minute...

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Dena's avatar

They don’t ask a question they don’t already know the answer to.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

I wonder what would happen if a potential juror was asked ANY question and he/she replied "JURY NULLIFICATION".

Would the room be cleared, like in Trilby's story above?

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Someone Somewhere's avatar

A few years ago, my son was summoned for jury duty. He looked like he was about twelve, though in reality he was probably about twenty. The judge asked each of the potential jurors if they would agreed to follow the law as interpreted by the judge. When it came my son's time to answer, he replied that he would have to see the law for himself and proceeded to explain jury nullification to the judge and the other prospective jurors. Needless to say, the judge was not pleased. My son was dismissed, and shortly thereafter all the other jurors walked out and up to my son to thank him for getting them off... and for teaching them about jury nullification. :)

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

Hats off to your son.

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Copernicus's avatar

I guess I need an education on jury nullification! First I’ve heard of it.

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TB's avatar

The basic summary is that the jury cannot be questioned about the reasons why they reached the verdict they did, or punished for the "wrong" verdict, and therefore jurors are, in practical terms, entirely free to acquit someone even if the law says they are guilty, for example if the jurors think the law is unfair or "the victim deserved it" or whatever.

Legally speaking, it is up to the judge to interpret what the legal standard is, and the jury is only supposed to judge the facts to decide whether or not they fit the legal standard, but there is no legal way to punish a jury that ignores this and does what they want. (The verdict could end up overturned if one of the parties makes a successful argument that "no reasonable jury could have reached that verdict", but the jurors themselves can't be punished, unless they admit to something illegal, so bragging about how "of course he did it but we acquitted him because we all hated the guy he murdered" is still a really bad idea.)

(And admitting that you know about this and are willing to do it is a reason to get dismissed from jury duty, because you're saying you might not convict or acquit according to the letter of the law.)

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

I don’t like “it is up to the judge to interpret the law”. To me, that means different judges could rule differently on a case, regardless what the law says.

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TB's avatar

Yes, that's a very real problem. In theory they have to interpret it according to precedent, but sometimes there is no precedent, or they decide that it's "not the same" for some reason...

But *somebody* has to decide what the law means, if the law is going to exist at all.

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GenEarly's avatar

That "crazy" James Madison's writings must be purged along with his other composition ........ The Constitution

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Emumundo's avatar

You have to be careful with jury nullification. In some states it’s illegal to research it.

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Help Needed in KS's avatar

OMG! Of course it is!

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

My dad was pretty hard of hearing and when he was about 70 or so, he was called for jury duty. He was sitting there with the others with his best gray fedora on. The bailiff said, “Sir, please take off your hat.” Dad sat there smiling.

The bailiff said again, “Sir, please take off your hat.” Dad still sat there.

The guy next to him elbowed him, which kind of startled dad. The guy said, “He said to take off your hat.”

Dad said, “Oh,” kind of embarrassed, and took off his hat.

The bailiff asked, “Sir, are you heard of hearing?”

Dad said, “No, not if people will just speak up and stop mumbling.”

He was excused from jury duty. 😆😆😆

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AJF's avatar

Haha yeah I remember a psych class where 2 people came into the room, did some things, then we were given a sheet to fill out answering specific questions about what we had seen. Many different opinions, no two alike.

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RJ Rambler's avatar

🤣👏🏻

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

As usual, Atty. Jeff, your sarcasm 'knife' was honed to a fine point with this comment (thanks for the hearty chuckle!):

"I never realized seaworthiness was within the FBI’s salty jurisdiction. You learn something new every day. Now I know who to call when the rental boat’s ice chest is empty."

My DIL's brother is in the "white collar crime" division of the FBI stationed in Baltimore (for about 20 years now) and he is on 'high alert' with all of the duties he has to investigate the Dali "1 minute loss of power". My DIL stated that her brother told her it was a "hack" - but the FBI is determining WHO hacked and what action to take. He's going to be a "busy beaver" for the next few months!!

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FH's avatar

Lara Logan first reported that her sources told her it was a hack, and in one jnterview she explained exactly how it likely occurred based on what her sources told her. This was immediately reported.

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John Pullen's avatar

Protesters who block roads and bridges should be considered as identifying as speed bumps and treated accordingly.

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Neil Kellen's avatar

My car was hacked!

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Fred's avatar

🤣 I couldn’t though, but I agree with the imagery!

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FourWinds's avatar

Self-driving cars could be an asset in this situation.... speed bump ahead....

I suspect I'd get arrested for pulling the SOBs out of the road.

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TB's avatar

Just "join the protest" but start waving a sign about "arrest fauci" or "save unborn lives" or something, and see if the police suddenly clear everyone out... ^_^

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Peter GL's avatar

If jurors can be excused for not being able to be impartial, then why not judges? How insane not to be allowed to attend his son's graduation?

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SusanMc's avatar

AMEN‼️

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Vicki's avatar

I understand that prostate cancer is one of the more common turbo cancer effects of the jab, but are we really supposed to believe that the very people deliberately and knowingly foisting the poison shot on all of us actually TOOK it themselves? Nopety nope! I'm not buying it! It SOUNDS good on paper, but what's the point of killing off half of society for numerical gain if you're not around to enjoy the fruits of your labor? I'm thinking this is more of a "cover-up" to get them out of the limelight or to foster sympathy as more and more "proof" comes out as to their complicity in deliberately attempting to kill people with all of these terrible meds! Either that, or they're planning on offing themselves BEFORE the fit hits the shan publicly and this is just setting the stage!

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Politico Phil's avatar

I was diagnosed with prostate cancer over 15 years ago. The local doc recommended that I immediately go in for "robotic surgery". My response was that no one in this town is going to cut on my jewels! I found a nationally recognized doc in south FL and went to him for a second opinion. Insurance wouldn't cover it as he was a "private" doc and I paid for it out of my pocket. He explained that most prostate cancers are slow growing and do not pose a threat for many years and recommended that we simply monitor the cancer. I did that for several years. Years later, my numbers became elevated and he recommended an MRI-S exam. This wasn't available in my town so I went to the U of FL hospital in Gainesville for the exam. (BTW, don't allow a biopsy! Get an MRI-S exam instead. Biopsy can "track" cancer cells and spread the cancer.) When my doc got the results, he recommended that I get "exterior beam therapy" which was the latest therapy at the time. It took nine weeks of therapy at Gainesville so I took a leave of absence from work to do it. It was a vacation for me. I'm in complete remission and been cancer free ever since. And I still have my jewels!

Exterior beam therapy has since been superseded by "photon therapy" which is even more accurate with even less side effects. That's the way to go now.

The lesson learned is this, which will save your life. For any major medical problem, go to a university teaching hospital. They have the most knowledgeable doctors and are on the cutting edge of the latest techniques. I can't stress that strongly enough. Do not depend on your local doc/hospital for major problems. Get a referral. Over 20 years ago, I had to have carotid artery surgery. My local doc originally diagnosed a lump on my neck as a tumor on my carotid artery. I had the same attitude, "No doctor in this town is going to put a knife to my throat, especially my artery!" Upon receiving the diagnosis, I went to the Univ of AL teaching hospital in Birmingham. They diagnosed me with a carotid aneurysm, put together a surgical team and scheduled my surgery a few days later. I was under the knife for 5 hours. They had to replace 3 inches of my artery with Gore-Tex. After the surgery, the Professor who headed the team came to see me and asked if I had ever suffered a neck injury as he could not figure out how I got an aneurysm. Apparently, I was a very rare case. I couldn't think of any accident but then I thought, "Well, I did hit a tree snow skiing 20 years ago and fractured my pelvis which caused me to black out." He said, "That's it! The impact stretched the artery cutting off the blood to my brain causing me to black out and that put a weak spot in my artery that ballooned 20 years later." Lesson learned: always go to a university teaching hospital for big issues.

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Donna in MO's avatar

Wow, good to know. My dad was dx'd with prostate cancer back in late 2008. Doc said the same thing, that it was common in men his age, but that most were slow growing but his turned out not to be. Had radiation therapy, although I don't know the specifics, but was through the University hospital in our town, just by luck I suppose, his cardiologist was already there, so picked a cancer doc from there as well. He lived 5 more years, but fast growing ('turbo') squamous cell carcinoma showed up in 2014, and that plus heart issues was curtains. Of course this was pre-jab, but it is hard to say how much of this is the jab vs god knows what else in our environment/lifestyles/other pharma crap is to blame. I do know I know a LOT more people fighting cancer now vs 5 years ago though.

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MayBella82's avatar

I agree with you about going to a university. My son is a 5th year PHD bio-medical engineer student and is at the forefront of cancer research. His professor is world renowned.

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Anthony's avatar

Thank you for this wisdom.

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Copernicus's avatar

Well, unless you also want a naturopath type opinion. Those you best avoid the universities.

Otherwise, yes, spot on.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Agreed. Should be using a naturopath from get-go. Then one might have a good chance of avoiding the knife.

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Valerie's avatar

Also, 70+ year old men have always gotten prostate cancer. That’s what’s so troubling about all of the post-Covid vaxx stuff. All of these turbo cancers and such existed before, but they appear to be much more now and there’s no way of knowing if the increase due to the jab is 10% or 80% because no one is freaking looking.

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Valerie's avatar

Well, maybe I should have said that all these cancers have existed before. The turbo thing is what’s new.

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Jen's avatar

Also, we have more 70+ year olds in our population than ever before.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Yes--and that Robert Malone took two shots, summer of '21, so that he could go to France for a covid conference, and that after the 2nd shot he thought he was going to die. Yup. Prove it, buddy.

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Emumundo's avatar

Maybe someone shed on Collins. Karmas a bitch.

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Tom's avatar

His mistake was that he trusted someone who told him he wasn't numbered among the "profane."

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Astragale's avatar

Or it’s karma! I agree they definitely would not have got the toxic injections.

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TB's avatar

I'm still not convinced that all the people doing this KNEW that it was danger/poison/whatever. Some of them might (maybe the people in Pfizer), but don't underestimate the power of wishful thinking, "Let's rush this through safety testing, we'll be heroes, what could possibly go wrong?" Especially if all the people who stood to profit from it were whispering in their ear that it's "the most safe and effective vaccine in history" and so forth.

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Vicki's avatar

Except for the fact that people in Big Pharma REGULARLY retire to move into the NIH, the CDC, the FDA. Those positions have been interchangeable for decades. That's why they fought so hard to discredit ivermectin and HCQ. They couldn't make the big bucks on the Vax if they had other means of treatment under the Emergency use. And believe me, these guys KNEW the effectiveness of ivermectin and HCQ. It was all planned and carefully coordinated with Big Pharma, the ABC agencies, and the MSM which is why they all pushed the same sound bytes dictated to them.

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TB's avatar

Oh, there is absolutely grift and corruption - the profit motive is strong. I would be prepared to believe that suppression of IVM/HCQ was done for dishonest reasons. It's just the specific claim that all the people involved knew the whole time that the vax was dangerous and therefore didn't get the shots themselves, which I'm skeptical of.

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John Galt (MAHA/MAGA)'s avatar

I carry a bunch of large zip ties in my car. Someday you'll see a viral video of me and several others tying protesters to signposts and Armco barriers to clear traffic.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

I was daydreaming yesterday after I saw that clip of the protesters on the Golden Gate Bridge. If I had been stuck in my car I would have gotten out and encouraged others to walk en mass with our pepper spray and spray the hell out of those thugs.

Your zip tie idea might be better though. Easier to take their keys out of their pockets!

Better yet, go up to their car, check for electronic ignition, they come running up and when they do their door can be opened and you can start the car and at the very least move it to the side of the road!

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

Wait, by electronic ignition, do you mean push button start? On my car to unlock it, someone would have to touch the door knob while the key fob is very close. I’m going to check how far away the key fob can be to start the car.

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Janet's avatar

Good idea.

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Karen Bandy's avatar

Ok, ok, maybe a dumb idea 🤣 I just locked my car and set my fob down on the garage floor and couldn't open the door. As far as starting it if it's unlocked will take more research, I think it will take two people to try it.

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Debbie Wagner's avatar

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼 Bravo! Great idea!

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SusanMc's avatar

🤣

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

And Araunah said to David, “Let my lord the king take and offer up what is good in his sight. Look, the oxen for the burnt offering, the threshing sledges and the yokes of the oxen for the wood. Everything, O king, Araunah gives to the king.” And Araunah said to the king, “May Yahweh your God accept you.” However, the king said to Araunah, “No, but I will surely buy it from you for a price, for I will not offer burnt offerings to Yahweh my God which cost me nothing.” So David bought the threshing floor and the oxen for fifty shekels of silver. Then David built there an altar to Yahweh and offered burnt offerings and peace offerings. Thus Yahweh was moved by the entreaty for the land, and the plague was checked from being upon Israel.

— 2 Samuel 24:22-25 LSB

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Oh that we would have GODLY LEADERSHSIP in our country!! Pray for the leaders we DO have to seek DIVINE guidance and not rely on their "human advisors".

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

This passage really jumped out at me the other night, especially David being unwilling to offer a sacrifice that cost him nothing.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

In spite of his shortcomings throughout his life, David was a man "after God's own heart"!!

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Brenda Bergsma's avatar

And that always makes me think I need to seek and know God's heart.

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Janice P - Words Beyond Me's avatar

Yes, and it strikes me now that we are not told that David was perfect. In fact, he was far from it. But his *heart* sought God. And God knew that . . . just as He knows what (or who) our hearts seek. We cannot fake it!

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Amen, the kicker being in the second part of that description. “God testified concerning him: ‘I have found David son of Jesse, a man after my own heart; he will do everything I want him to do’” (Acts 13:22).

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CStone's avatar

Yes. That’s what stands out to me, as well.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

Have been praying for them for several months now. It's a habit.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

A Scriptural habit for sure, VVV!

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Lisa Ca's avatar

Amen Sharon! We just had a sermon about how king Saul used necromancers to call up Samuel from the dead to advise when God had turned his back on him and stopped answering Saul. 1 Samuel.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Yes...I remember that passage of Scripture very well. Samuel was very angry with Saul for "disturbing my eternal sleep". Did you know that the faithful Jews in the "old dispensation" went to a "lower heaven" when they passed into eternity. The FIRST ACT that Jesus took when his body was resurrected was to go to that "lower heaven" and set the souls of the faithful Jews so they could go to the HIGHEST HEAVEN for eternity?

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MaryAnn's avatar

Everyday.

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Bryan Dair's avatar

‘The king desires no bride-price except a hundred foreskins of the Philistines, that he may be avenged of the king's enemies.’” Now Saul thought to make David fall by the hand of the Philistines. And when his servants told David these words, it pleased David well to be the king's son-in-law. Before the time had expired, David arose and went, along with his men, and killed two hundred of the Philistines. And David brought their foreskins, which were given in full number to the king, that he might become the king's son-in-law. And Saul gave him his daughter Michal for a wife. But when Saul saw and knew that the Lord was with David, and that Michal, Saul's daughter, loved him, Saul was even more afraid of David. So Saul was David's enemy continually.'

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Ed Thorrens's avatar

”For the message of the cross is foolishness to those who are perishing, but to us who are being saved it is the power of God.“

‭‭I Corinthians‬ ‭1‬:‭18‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

https://bible.com/bible/114/1co.1.18.NKJV

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Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Yeah, but, the new head of the FBI's Baltimore office (on board only 1 day) stated a mere 8 hours after the bridge attack, that it was not terrorism.

So...

He will probably be promoted to the next FBI Director.

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ViaVeritasVita's avatar

I imagine that the FBI has gotten involved to destroy any evidence of foul play.

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Alan Devincentis's avatar

And gee, the fact that that particular position was filled right then. It’s inconceivable!

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Peace's avatar

Sounds a bit like the newly minted leadership in Maui at the time of the recent fires.

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Politico Phil's avatar

Many of us here at C&C will not want to miss Tucker's interview with Pastor Doug Wilson.

I recommend joining Tucker's channel as the cost is extremely affordable.................................................................

What would you say is the single greatest threat to America today?

Unregulated immigration? Out-of-control bureaucracy? Nuclear war?

A case could be made for any of the three. But instead of centering his reelection campaign around one of those issues, Joe Biden is targeting his wrath at something else: Christian nationalism.

But what does that even mean?

Pastor Doug Wilson is one of the faith-based leaders the Democratic Party is trying to paint as a “threat to democracy,” and he joined The Tucker Carlson Encounter to expose the Left’s plot to remove God from our national conversation.

As one of the rare American pastors willing to engage on questions of culture and politics, Doug Wilson is well worth listening to.

Pastor Doug Wilson tells Tucker:

“The Left really does hate Christianity… They want to control absolutely everything, every keystroke. They want to control everything because they're aspiring to deity. The reason they're aspiring to deity is because they don't recognize any god above them.”

https://tuckercarlson.com/the-tucker-carlson-encounter-doug-wilson/

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

I can usually find his interviews somewhere online for free. Here is a script that I found. When you add up too many extremely affordable things, it gets expensive.

https://www.happyscribe.com/public/the-tucker-carlson-podcast/pastor-doug-wilson

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Politico Phil's avatar

COOL! I think you might be able to find it on Rumble also.

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Reasonable Horses's avatar

Excellent interview. Wilson makes a great point about clergy and elders getting their own households in order before preaching to the choir. Imagine how many politicians could run on a platform like, “My family and finances are a mess, but I can fix yours!”

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Dena's avatar

I really enjoyed it. He’s a knowledgeable, insightful pastor. Tucker was so taken by the fact the pastor has 3 children & 18 grandchildren who gather every Saturday to dine & prepare for the sabbath together. Tucker said “when I’m 70 that’s the life I want”. Looks into the camera & says “get going” speaking to his kids I took it to mean.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

I never listened to Tucker until he had that interview with Pres. Milei of Argentina - I subscribed to his channel for 3 months--cannot afford to "do" all of these 'off the grid" shows anymore, so I cancelled Tucker yesterday!

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Dena's avatar

Sasha Stone’s substack usually posts them. She’s free & a good, honest writer. Former liberal. Her substack is Free Thinking Through the Fourth Turning with Sasha Stone.

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CStone's avatar

Did you see what happened at a men’s conference organized by John Lindell this w/e?

Absolutely demonic!

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

Is this to what you're referring, CStone? I know nothing of these pastors or their 'event' - but from what I could tell by the photos and the article the pastor who was blasting the "male martial arts' performer and the Asherath 'pole' issue - he was citing Scripture. I guess the "host pastor" was upset because the critical pastor didn't go to him FIRST about this inappropriate 'martial arts' performance. Petty stuff...when MILLIONS are dying from lack of unhindered HOLY SPIRIT presence in our 'organized' churches!! https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/it-was-wild-and-disturbing-mega-pastor-booted-from-the-pulpit-for-slamming-male-stripper-sword-display-at-christian-men-s-conference/ar-BB1lFFab

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Queen Hotchibobo's avatar

Maybe not being fully reported.

I saw a quote from the performer who was a male stripper/ dancer until about 8 years ago.

He proclaims Jesus as savior (so a new Christian that they can destroy) and defends the sword swallowing routine as strength and performance art.

He is a member of some sword swallowing guild that goes back over a 1,000 years (if I remember the numbers right.)

But here’s the rich part, his sword swallowing mentor goes to Mark Driscoll’s church.

Is the satanic media taking something out of context and running with it? Again?

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Politico Phil's avatar

No I didn't.

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kapoore's avatar

Most trans kids are autistic and they really are vulnerable kids. I’m afraid that the future holds a lot more of these kids with autism rates going from 1 in 10,000 to 1 in 30 (or something). In California with our draconian vaccine laws to be in a classroom or daycare it’s 1 in 22. When will people wake up and realize it’s the vaccine schedule. In the vaxxed and unvaxxed studies (and there are such studies), it’s the vaxxed that get autism. For example, the generally unvaxxed Amish have no cases. Where are the health agencies, where are the pediatricians, where are the legislatures (with the exception of Florida and Idaho)?

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SYFY's avatar

I believe Dr. McCollough said 1 in 36 is the rate currently

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Kathy Sincere's avatar

That is a very conservative "guestamat" based on CDC cherry-picked data from 3 years ago. Based on more accurate data, Stephanie Seneff predicts the rate of autism will be 1 in 2 by 2030. It will be just better diagnosing.

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Janet's avatar

That a child is autistic, it’s evil to encourage them at all. To tell a parent that “do they want a dead daughter (or son) or a live son (or daughter. ). It’s a phrase the groomers and demons in the trans industry use on the parents. Totally evil. I wish eternal damnation on their fetid and putrified souls.

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Fred's avatar

And contrary to the rhetoric, it is *not* increased awareness and diagnosis. 🤬

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Oregon Kathy's avatar

People have woken up! Covid has brought it to the forefront, thank goodness.

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MayBella82's avatar

They are working towards aborting autistic kids. With them trying to kill babies up until 29 days, next it will be any child that is not completely healthy and wanted by their mother. All of it is evil.

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Sharon Beautiful Evening's avatar

It's NOT about 'health' and hasn't been for DECADES, Kapoore - it's about GREED!!

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