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The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Bret Weinstein represents the glaring contrast between authentic scientists and glorified experts. Peer reviewed data doesn't amount to a hill of beans when the peers doing the peering are unprincipled charlatans. Over $20 billion dollars in fines (admittedly what amounts to couch change) levied against pharmaceutical companies since the early 2000's for fraud, corruption, false claims and....wait for it....hiding safety data. Boggles the mind how the socially conditioned lemmings just keep lining up for more safe and effective "treatments."

Major Publisher Retracts 64 Scientific Papers in Fake Peer Review Outbreak - https://tinyurl.com/mpzjyw6s

Internal Pharma Documents Reveal Strategies Used to Corrupt the Medical Field - https://tinyurl.com/5436p66z

Franklin O'Kanu's avatar

I literally just posted an article called “statistical deception” — showing exactly how “peer data” are used to paint narratives: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/statistical-deception-the-great-travesty

Bard Joseph's avatar

Aspirin goes for 9 cents. Condemned miracle drug for a century to push alternative blood thinner bioweapon.

"Bristol Myers Squib also agreed to donate 6.5 tons of Eliquis to the national security stockpile"??

Abiding Dude's avatar

The approval process for Eliquis is shockingly corrupt, both Pfizer and the FDA were involved... bogus testing, outright lies, deadly side effects quashed... and this poison still was approved.

Remdesivir, which Pfizer manufactures and supplies for Gilead, is another despicable, corrupt approval story... still being used...

Ree T.'s avatar

Abiding- I would be interested in any links can share about the Eliquis trials. Early summer this year, my 83 year old father was prescribed Eliquis. After two weeks he became so short of breath he could hardly walk 10 feet. He went to his PCP who immediately sent him by squad to the ER as his BP was dangerously low. He was diagnosed with cardiac tamponade and rushed into the procedure room where they removed 200ml of blood from his pericardium. He was lucky to be alive and after a three week hospital stay he made a full recovery. Two cardiologists argued about whether it was caused by the Eliquis. I would love to know what the trials showed.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

my father had a stent put in one year and was told he'd have to take plavix for the rest of his life. he took it for 9 days and felt so awful that he stopped. two decades later, a doctor at the VA looked at his "list" of medications (only one at 95) and compared it to his medical history and said "well, it's not on his list but he has to be on plavix since it says here he had a stent put in." i said "he took it for 9 days and then he stopped. he hasn't taken it for at least 20 years."

you could see the wheels turning- "does not compute." i believe that doctors are given only the first few lines of a script for dealing with questioning (difficult) patients. the expectation is that after one troublesome question and one inadequate answer which includes a few big words, the patient will acquiesce and the doctor can get on with his "important" business.

when you hit them with something beyond the approved script- like "he must take plavix for life, but he hasn't taken it for 20 years but he isn't dead," their brains short circuit and they generally just walk away, muttering to themselves

Garden Lover's avatar

The problem is that most doctors have specialities and forget that everything is connected in the body. It’s a dumb way to handle health.

Ree T.'s avatar

Carolyn- spot on!!

Abiding Dude's avatar

My brother died of a brain-bleed at 64, Eliquis and later warfarin.

From AI:

The approval process for Eliquis (apixaban) was significantly delayed due to misconduct and errors identified in a clinical trial site in China. The U.S. FDA halted approval for nine months in 2012 after discovering that patients received the wrong medicines, records were secretly altered, and serious adverse events were unreported during the ARISTOTLE trial. The FDA also reported that some patient records had disappeared prior to inspections, and three Bristol-Myers Squibb employees, including a senior manager, were fired following the alleged cover-up. Although the FDA later concluded that the errors were not "exceptionable" and did not substantially affect the final positive results, many experts remain skeptical about what may have been overlooked. The FDA's medical team leader, Thomas Marciniak, noted that the statistical results for lower overall deaths from Eliquis might not be valid due to missing or erroneous data, and the company was not permitted to promote the drug based on those outcomes. These issues have been central to lawsuits alleging that Bristol-Myers Squibb and Pfizer misrepresented the drug’s safety and efficacy, concealed the lack of a reversal agent for bleeding, and failed to adequately warn healthcare providers of the risks.

Ree T.'s avatar

THANK YOU SO MUCH!! I appreciate your effort to post these. (I need to remember that AI is now at my fingertips.)

I am truly sorry to hear about the death of your brother. How heartbreaking for you and your family.

Sabrina Page's avatar

I would be very wary about taking a blood thinner they wanted to give everyone free. What other ingredients, for instance.

NofloChick's avatar

I was prescribed Eliquis at one time. My holistic doctor suggested nattokinase instead. Used it instead and it is all natural. Does the same thing as the chemical prescription med.

Jan's avatar

Exactly. Just say no, price is not the issue. Everyone who has had "clotting" related to injecting covid toxin was started on Eliquis. My husband was started on Eliquis, $500.00 a month after having one episode of Afib, $80.00 a month if purchased in Chile? He had an ablation, no more Afib but cardiologist, "you are a cardiac patient, you need to be on Eliquis." We didn't go back. Eliquis is like statins, cardiologists think everyone needs it. He has been on nattokinase 10,000 FU and K 2 (MK 7) for a couple of years, no issues.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Natto is easily made from any bean but traditionally Soybeans in

an InstaPot. Lots of You Tubes. By definition it mostly breaks down proteins which is why it is a first line against the spike proteins from

the Quaxcine (mRNA) or inadvertant exposure.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Just started pre-soaking a cup of organic soybeans.

Tomorrow will pressure cook in InstaPot for about 22 mins.

Once they cool, will added starter innoculant (Amazon)

Tranfer to Pyrex bowl just smaller than Instapot, Mix starter in, cover with Saran Wrap and use toothpick on the wrap to allow venting.

Use the yogurt setting (low heat about 103F) Instapot cycles.

Check in a day for "strings". Allow two days before refrigerating.

A "dallop" a day keeps the Medical Cartel away...

If you need visuals, You Tube delivers.

RebeccaGrrrl's avatar

Dang, wow, I didn’t even think of that. Hmmm. You don’t think it’s Trump holding them over a barrel? You think they’d really do more dirty tricks? And then as I write that, I answer my own question.. Yes, yes they might.

RunningLogic's avatar

I think it’s always good to be wary and careful.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

In 2017 my husband had a pulmonary embolism (due to other bad drugs) and they put him on xarelto. Five months later he got pneumonia and cracked every rib in at least one place from coughing. Turns out xarelto, in “rare” cases, can cause your bones to stop producing marrow, so they are slowly dying. He went off the xarelto right away, against doctors’ advice, of course.

STH's avatar

Bryn did they tell him that about the bone marrow before prescribing it? 😳

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Oh heavens no. We “did our own research”. 😉

Bandit's avatar

I have to take Eliquis AND Plavix, due to a heart problem, not due to jab. Doctor is emphatic about both. They both cause diarrhea. 😖

Sabrina Page's avatar

Oh dear. See way above to find a comment on a helathier substitute.

Kent's avatar

Me too Sabrina. I personally believe ALL drugs should be discontinued but most people would have nothing to fall back on without their crutches. I can't blame them either.

Lisa Ca's avatar

yeup. sounds just like the j-a-bs free…

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

In the linked video Jeff posted, the pharma spokesperson said that Eliquis would be free to Medicaid patients ( she didn’t say Medicare patients- two distinctly different groups). I do completely agree with you, Sabrina, as the old adages, “ you can’t get something for nothing”,and “there’s no such thing as a free lunch “ come to mind.

Not sure how this helps Medicaid patients unless they had a copay with that medication. Doesn’t this mainly benefit the government who used to purchase it and subsidize its costs for Medicaid?

Egle's avatar

Just a thought: I was wondering why Eliquis? Why not other drug? We know that jabs or covid itself caused microclotting. And microclotting causes organ dysfunction. Big Harma knows it and they know Trump knows about it. Eliquis makes it less likely for clots to form and from my observation many jabbed people benefit from it. But Eliquis 30 day supply cost can be up to 500$ and more without insurance coverage. Harmaceutical companies even have so called patient assistance programs to ease medication costs.

So they caused the problem but they also had a drug for it and they expected big profit. Trump just took it away.

KBB's avatar

Eliquis is still under patent in the US hence the price tag - $497 for a 30-day supply. But elsewhere in the world it's off-patent and available as the generic Apixaban. My husband gets it from Pharmstore.com in Canada, which works with several pharmacies around the world. His last order was $130 for a 90-day supply, shipped from UK.

He's taking it because of a recent onset afib, to reduce the risk of stroke. But based on the other comments on C&C, we're going to look into nattokinase.

Jan's avatar

Check out cardiac ablation, husband has been very satisfied.

Ruth's avatar

Have a friend who had ablation and cardiologist still insists she take Eliquis, although did advise she get from Canada. He says even though she had the ablation, “she is female, fair skinned, and 65, so high risk!” She is scared to death so takes the med.

NotAfraid's avatar

How about a high quality fish oil which stabilizes electro conductivity of the heart and some Hawthorne supplements?

KBB's avatar

Already taking fish oil. Will look into Hawthorne. Thanks.

Lisa Ca's avatar

exactly. the caused the problem and have the solution 🙄

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

According to the spokesperson in the video Jeff linked to, the free Eliquis is only for Medicaid patients.

M. Dowrick's avatar

Crazy isn’t it? Why can’t Americans stay thin? Why are so many obese and instead of just eating less they would rather take a fat shot that can paralyse their intestines, requiring surgery to correct the problem. Does anyone know? You can charge a penny for pharma drugs, but wouldn’t you rather stay healthy, so you don’t have to take pharmaceuticals?

Truth Seeker's avatar

Eating less is certainly an issue. Eating the right foods make the issue a non issue. Health does not come from needles or drugs...

Actually learning about health is a life long quest...

NotAfraid's avatar

There are a lot of free cures - dry fasting 7-11 days according to Dr. Filonov’s work Russian MD, Rife machine- frequency healing ‘amazing’, liver cleanses (change the oil filter) to heal anything gallbladder stone and potentially many other diseases, eating less and high quality local organics, using herbal remedies for everything- try Be Your Own Doctor I and II by Rachel Weaver Master Herbalist. I now have a hallway hospital since the Convid reveal. Those are my go to’s. It’s worth the work to make your own good health never go to a doctor they do not think critically but are only following an insurance payment script treating symptoms for life.

Anne Clifton's avatar

I actually talked to a man who said he was taking Ozempic injections for diabetes, which then gave him an excuse to eat whatever he wants.

Truth Seeker's avatar

There really are clueless people, there really are...

Johnny-O's avatar

Unfortunately, it is far more complex these days than just eating right and exercising due to the massive amount of poisons and toxins people are exposed to. On a daily basis the average american is exposed to dozens of endocrine disruptors.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Yup, Eliquis is another horrible abuse of the public for profit.

Once on it, immediately stopping Eliquis is extremely dangerous, so you MUST pay them to continue or risk death.

"The ARISTOTLE trial found that premature discontinuation of Eliquis was associated with a significant number of strokes, highlighting the immediate and severe risks involved."

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

Definitely want to do your homework and consult with a knowledgeable practitioner about tapering off meds.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Blood thinner. Highly profitable and dangerous.

Bandit's avatar

Grrrreat. 🙄😖

RJ Rambler's avatar

Yah, very conflicted to be happy about cheap drugs. I think this has been played over and over. I am honestly very thankful, though it's a life of anxiety, to have to self treat until it's near ER time to take a med because we can't afford to take it as prescribed and then you find out that taking "as prescribed", and the bitchin you get when you need a refill, was deadly anyway. 😵😭😡😡😡😡😡....

RunningLogic's avatar

Well some of them are insulin. So that’s a little different. Also if people are going to take medicines at least they won’t be putting themselves into debt trying to pay for them and Pharma companies won’t make as much money on them either.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Cheap EpiPens should have been on the list.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yes that occurred to me as well.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Adult onset diabetes is 100% curable with dietary interventions...

Type 1 is insulin dependent however even in that scenario remarkable improvement is possible...

Janet's avatar

Cheaper diabetes proven meds are a good thing. Yes, lifestyle and diet can be better, but unless people are motivated to do so, they should get the pharmaceuticals that work without added stress. If the docs Rx responsibly.

NotAfraid's avatar

Sorry, no such thing. Read my above comments. Gid has given us all we need - plants, minerals, fasting, frequency healing, prayer….

CStone's avatar

Yeah. That isn’t suspect at all.

Robyn Welch's avatar

Isn't there a shelf life for medications? How does this stockpile work?

Andrew lawson's avatar

Every one would be healthier and live years,longer if they ate healthy and much less, exercised and took far fewer drugs of any kind.

Many were gullible/ stupid enough to get covid vaxed so can expect to have damaged health and a funeral years earlier than should have been the case.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Eating Healthy/ several hundred details, some philosophical

30 million dead from the Quaxcine and counting...

Terri's avatar

Thank you, it is so amazing to read peoples opinions that demonstrate not everyone is sleeping

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Ban all "peer review" of scientific articles, because it is the primary cause of stagnation in research. Those "peers" all profit from current orthodoxy and want to suppress threats to their revenue streams. Instead, invite the entire public to review and comment on research.

https://patrick.net/post/1303173/2017-02-19-patrick-s-platform

SHug's avatar

Brilliant idea!

patrick.net/memes's avatar

Thanks, I got it from somewhere else. Maybe it was Brett Weinstein.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Be careful on suggesting bans...

Peer Review has been pay to play for decades. That is exactly why conflicts of interest are required AND donor disclosures. SO, companies set up shell companies to obfuscate...

patrick.net/memes's avatar

As long as the public gets to have equally visible input, I don't mind "peers".

The problem is when they exclusively get to decide what's true.

Truth Seeker's avatar

Peer review as mentioned has been a pay to play scheme for decades. The issue is that a lay public will most definitely not comprehend or have useful imput into the way that the study was conducted, what was excluded, and why.

However independent review has that ability and outs malfaesance.

With little variation, has been like this for decades.

Publishing has to do with approval in journals. To gain such approval is quite the dance...

patrick.net/memes's avatar

The lay public may not actually care, or have useful input, but there are a vast number of Americans with science and engineering training who would be delighted to publish truths that the "peers" are quite desperate to hide.

Those are the people I want to have access to the research and to have an uncensorable platform for comments.

Michelle Enmark, DDS's avatar

That becomes a popularity contest and may end up with a result of no confidence in certain results that don’t fit the current narrative. Maybe the readers have to have a basic science background at least and some type of training, knowledge, or expertise in the subject matter. As Truth Seeker said, independent review boards, not beholden to any group, no conflicts, no pharmaceutical company employees etc.

patrick.net/memes's avatar

I don't think any independent review board is ever truly independent.

I'm just looking for truly open public commentary so that those who know what they are talking about at least have the chance to speak the truths that the "peers" refuse to speak.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

What's the probability of serendipity? 😁

shayne's avatar

🤣🤣 I think Elizabeth Bennet said something along this line when she sparred with Mr. Darcy.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

You math just fine.

SB's avatar

One of the things I learned doing my research for my PhD was that statistics can say pretty much whatever you want them to say.

Melissa S's avatar

Re: "the glaring difference between scientists and glorified experts"

There is so much corruption in both categories.

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

Weinstein does what a scientist is supposed to be doing...the complete opposite of a criminally narcissistic bribed, coerced and otherwise corrupted expert (See Offitt, Fauci, Hotez, et al). Granted, an extremely rare bird these days.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Controlled opposition like Kory

Abiding Dude's avatar

Any proof of that?

Kory is a fan of CDS, like I am... seems to be a good guy...

The Imaginary Hobgoblin's avatar

…and Alex Jones, Snoopy and David Lee Roth.

KC & the Sunshine's avatar

I think Kory is fabulous.

Keith Jajko's avatar

Excellent usage of shortened links to avoid algorithm overreach. 👍

Terri's avatar

Thank you for speaking out with some sanity, it is so difficult to keep reading the same shit over and over so the ignorant beings may some day get the whole point

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

so true. my cousin's wife took the 1976 swine flu vaccine and spent a year in a wheelchair. although i didn't know why then, i realize it must have been GBS. you can show me all the statistical data you want, but NOTHING will ever convince me to take a flu shot. my lying eyes experience was and still is much more vivid then all the pronouncements from the lab coated "experts" you can muster.

the same thing goes for childhood vaccines. RFKjr has been saying for years that there are no placebo controlled trials for them and he is correct BUT who in their right mind would volunteer their perfect child for a vaccine study when they might be in the treatment arm and end up autistic or dead!!

all they need to do is listen to parents and compare heavily vaccinated children with unvaccinated children.

we don't have a placebo controlled study to tell us that the sun comes up every morning. the best data comes from life!

Garden Lover's avatar

And no matter how many times you point out these companies’ fraud convictions, the lemmings will continue to follow them.

Garden Lover's avatar

It is. I’ve been pointing this out for years, long before COVID, but vaccines are the savior of mankind. 🙄

Peter Schott's avatar

Peer Review has also been shown more and more to be just more grifting. Of course, those who _expose_ the peer review system for what it is get kicked out of the club, but that term doesn't really carry a lot of weight anymore for those who see how that system works to protect absolutely horrible "science".

rolandttg's avatar

Same difference with fines against the criminal banksters, like J P Morgan

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

“And this will be the sign for you: you will find a baby wrapped in cloths and lying in a manger.” And suddenly there appeared with the angel a multitude of the heavenly host praising God and saying,

“Glory to God in the highest,

And on earth peace among men with whom He is pleased.”

— Luke 2:12-14 LSB

Guy White's avatar

“Fear not”

We recently watched Linus recite those verses in perhaps the most well-known scene from an ancient animated TV cartoon special the world has ever known, and it brought a tear to my eye. Despite the fact that this 2-minute monologue has been part of my life for decades now. Timeless truths and expressions of overwhelming love seem to do that more often as I get older. “For God so loved the world…”

Margot Wooster's avatar

We love the Charlie Brown Christmas special! will be watching our dvd of it probably Christmas Eve.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Wise to have a hard copy, of everything, Margot. A I and the digital world will manipulate or eliminate everything that goes against the narrative of those building the new system.

And that, Charlie Brown, is the problem with eliminating books.

Lauren's avatar

I first studied this a few years ago and like to re-visit it every holiday season: https://www.chaimbentorah.com/the-nativity/

Joy to the world! The Lord has come (and He's coming again)!!

Silent scorn's avatar

Makes me excited for our Christmas Eve church service!!! I love the sights and sounds of Christmas Eve.

Donzel W's avatar

I'm down with being second, right behind the Word!

LMWC's avatar

My favorite verses of the Christmas story.

NX17's avatar

🌟❤️truly a most beloved scripture! Dear Janice~Thanks for always uplifting and inspiring us! Blessings to you and yours✨

Words Beyond Me-Janice Powell's avatar

It is my pleasure. Blessings to you as well!

Mike's avatar

I would love to see a times interview of several of the "older generation" with several houses and fat retirement plans clearly lay out what condition they were in when they were 27 years old. Success develops with a thought out plan, perseverance and delayed consumption. Its rare that you inherit it!

Steenroid's avatar

Yeah I didn’t have squat when I was 27. I was in my 40’s before I was able to buy a house and mine is quite modest. But while my parents helped me get a PhD they never gave me everything. I also started working on my dad’s farm at 12. First paying job was at 15 and made minimum wage for ag work. $1.00/hr. So cry me a River.

Miss Teacup's avatar

When I was about sixteen my dad agreed to buy me a nice pair of riding boots that cost the princely sum of $110, if I worked with him that summer on his portable sawmill. I did, and it wasn't at all fun, but I did like those boots!

Steenroid's avatar

But you will remember this until the day you die.

Miss Teacup's avatar

You bet! One of the first things I remember my dad telling me, probably around age four or five, as he handed me a chunk of firewood half my size to put on the stack was "he who works, eats". Never raised his voice, was always gentle, and always got the point across.

Steenroid's avatar

You had a good dad. So did I. And my mom too. Even though I was adopted I was the luckiest kid who ever loved.

RJ Rambler's avatar

Thank you for saying! ❤️

Cabogirl's avatar

Yep me too exactly.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

OK, now tell me how many multiples of the median income THAT house cost when you bought it , and how many multiples it is now.

For a house bought 30 years ago that was 3X a years income, it might be 6X now.

In expensive areas where it might have been 4X, it's 10X now.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If a person wants to live on either coast, or a state like Colorado, they will not be able to afford a house.

Plenty of houses still available in the middle of the US for $250k.

But most turn their noses up. They want a newish house with multiple bathrooms, a mudroom, huge kitchen with island, etc.

carolyn kostopoulos's avatar

i'm a member of an old house group on facebook. i keep hearing how young people can't buy homes and so can't start families but at least once a week, i read a story of a young couple who bought themselves an old ruined farmhouse on a few acres and they're going to live in it while they restore it. and i think, yes it can be done if you are creative and willing to work.

these young people will be true jeffersonians; they will love their house and their land, having invested their very souls into them and will defend them to the death. they give me hope.

Johnny-O's avatar

The rub, however, is income where housing is cheaper is generally significantly less than where housing is expensive. Home ownership across the board is a sore point for anyone young, anywhere.

ShowMePatriot's avatar

Maybe so. But my husband and I built our house in the country- 57 miles from my professional employment. I carpooled for almost 30 years back and forth. We made it work, raised 3 children and always felt like I had the best of both worlds. Life is what you make it.

We’re both retired now, we can travel, and have the toys we never had when we were young.

Sometimes you have to decide your priorities!

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Or some work in industries where most of the work is in California. There aren’t very many tech companies in Iowa.

Art's avatar

What some are describing as a generalized discontent among young people misses the nuance of who might have a legitimate gripe. Young white men have had their employment prospects savaged by DEI, which is overt race and sex discrimination. It’s not subtle. It’s also clearly a 14th amendment violation and illegal by any standard, and yet it has been widespread policy in both the private sector and government. And when they verbalize their experience they are again savaged by the beneficiaries of this discrimination as whiny and privileged. This article is one of several that have gone viral lately: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/

SD Scott's avatar

Older white people, also, face discrimination.

Art's avatar

I know because I was one of them. And now I’m watching my son face the same obstacle. It has to stop.

SD Scott's avatar

So many barriers to starting one’s own business, as well.

CHop's avatar

Microsoft started to clear out everyone over 50. Then they realized, those were the people with the most knowledge in the industry and halted it.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

No one wants to hire anyone over 50. It is really sad and discouraging for that group.

Politico Phil's avatar

DEI and the “Lost Generation”

How white millennial men were purged from elite institutions

https://christopherrufo.com/p/dei-and-the-lost-generation

Politico Phil's avatar

You’re Not Allowed to Notice This - Tucker Carlson and Matt Walsh on the disappearance of white people.

https://tuckercarlson.com/matt-walsh-highlights-december

162.550's avatar

Here's the recent article that kicked off this current spotlight on this DEI based racism: https://www.compactmag.com/article/the-lost-generation/

Karen Bandy's avatar

My niece sent me this today! Maybe some good news ahead. https://youtu.be/MwgigHaremg

Silent scorn's avatar

Oooo the gnashing of teeth from the DEI crowd will be deafening!

SD Scott's avatar

Deregulate small businesses. Make self employment normal again.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Especially the green regulations here in Oregon,

What’s it called, Cap and Trade?

SD Scott's avatar

It’s called poverty, writ large.

Karen Bandy's avatar

Yes! Poverty inflicted by the government

RJ Rambler's avatar

How many were discriminated against in hiring practices and will never know?

S.P.H.'s avatar

I knew, or learned very quickly post discharge from the USAF in 1977, RJ.

While practicing for an interview, my mentor said you are doing great and are well qualified (blue collar civil service position) but don't expect to be hired.

I was a victim of DEI before discrimination was shortened to an acronym.

Margaret P's avatar

Yeah but the author of that article isn't willing to call out DEI. It's a permission story.

Deb's avatar

Yep! This younger generation has been handed the keys to vast opportunities and they whine! The popular culture has taught them well! They "deserve" all the things that previous generations had to work very hard and sacrifice for! I do not have much sympathy for the over-indulged. Most older Americans have worked for many many years to be in a position to afford a few luxuries later in life! Man up youngins!!!

nancy barker's avatar

The younger folks can’t live without their $7 Starbucks drinks and manicures and pedicures, etc. They complain about not having money to buy a house, but they are great at wasting money.

Karmy's avatar

Don’t forget tattoos, expensive clothing and jewelry.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The nails are what gets me.

nancy barker's avatar

Cars, vacations, booze and more. They could never survive a recession, the likes of which our parents lived through and learned how to sacrifice. The greatest generation passed their values down to my generation.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Do custom coffee shops accept SNAP?

Just curious...

Jennifer's avatar

Some do for the food and we can blame our generation for voting all of that shit in.

clem h fandango's avatar

Yes the girls I work with, while definitely getting severely underpaid as vet techs, still buy tons of fancy coffees and do not cook at all. They are also the first to volunteer to be cut when business is slow, but constantly complaining of being broke.

nancy barker's avatar

So sad. No work ethic either, in many cases.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Lots of boomer hate on X. The young people never consider that older folks are hanging onto their money to pay for huge medical expenses or nursing home care.

Amazing how many feel they deserve, or are owed, an inheritance.

MPLloyd's avatar

There are many, many homes that are affordable for young people in the “uncool” neighborhoods. My son at 30 yrs old, his wife and twin babies lived on a street in urban Pittsburgh with lower income families in an old neighborhood. There was the occasional attorney or medical school resident as well as a crack house on their street. It was actually a great place to live … front porches with people outside visiting with the neighbors. They lived there for six years. They fixed it up a lot, it was 3 small bedrooms with 1 and 1/2 bathrooms. Window air-conditioners. I am pointing out that many young people today want the type of homes (and neighborhoods) they grew up in, not factoring in that their parents moved once or twice on their way up the income ladder. Gentrifying is a great way to go and it’s happening in many places.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

I live in Pittsburgh and there are many real neighborhoods in the city.

Lots of houses made of sturdy brick, with plaster walls, and hardwood floors.

MPLloyd's avatar

That was my son’s house. You could tell it was an old miner or steel worker’s home. It had the downstairs basement entrance where they would come in to clean up before coming upstairs. Plaster walls, hardwood floors. My son did a lot to restore and improve it. The twins played outside in the front always and learned to stay away from the street. The grocery store and shops were within walking distance. It was a very nice six years. Things are not the same.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Unfortunately we have seen an increase in crime. The city has been run by the Democrats for about 90 years and it shows.

Our current mayor publicly stated he would not cooperate with ICE.

We have a new mayor coming in and he is more worried about trans rights.

Now the city is talking about raising our property taxes 30%. But the non-profits, the hospitals and universities, do not pay property taxes. The city lost a lot of money with the loss of revenue from the decreased occupancy in the buildings downtown.

Still with all its problems, I consider this place home. Still safer than Philly.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Well, good for them. Meanwhile in Sacramento, my son and his wife can either live in an apartment in an “uncool” neighborhood where their cars are broken into on a regular basis, or rent a small 2-bedroom house (for the same monthly rent) in a working-class neighborhood. No one sits on the front porch to chat, they have three locks on their front door because a block down the street is a homeless camp where everyone is mentally ill and/or on drugs. Either way, they can’t afford to live near their work OR save up much for a house of any kind. And they can’t move to Kansas because my son works in tech.

I wish people would find a little compassion for the current generation of young people. They have challenges we never had to deal with. And my son, a white guy, was lucky to get his job at all. Please stop with the holier-than-thou. Maybe meet a few young people and ask them what it’s like.

MPLloyd's avatar

Well, I will not argue that the country has gone to hell in the six years that my son and family moved from that lower income neighborhood, where they didn’t lock their doors and the crack house people kept to themselves. The powers that be have deliberately destroyed our neighborhoods, towns, and cities with their highly profitable industry of the homeless and drug addicts. Every place has been affected. My small Oklahoma university town, with its quaint, attractive downtown, is littered with them. The city with its abundant “food & shelter” business has them coming in from all surrounding towns and cities. I am guessing they get thousands of tax dollars per head. And they’re very excited to be building a new (couldn’t possibly appropriate an old, empty building) huge shelter, that no one voted for. As if any of these sub-humans would live in a shelter. They much prefer the downtown sidewalks. I step over them to get to my pilates class. So, no argument from me. Ironically, my son and family’s dear friends from the old neighborhood moved to Sacramento and supposedly love it there. They have visited them a number of times. I have subtly asked about the “homeless situation” there which they deny ever seeing. I have seen plenty of photos on line, so I know the horrors of which you speak. However, I notice they have stopped talking about ever moving to CA which was something they considered at one point.

And, I don’t think I am being holier than thou. I have three children and many nieces and nephews all in their 30’s, struggling with the demise of our country brought on by the Marxist/Communist regime of the past number of years. Only my son and one other cousin own their homes. My son is a physician and was in school for many years. He’s in his 40’s and his wife has worked all along as well. They have chickens and vegetable gardens and are very hard working. I’ve met plenty of young people and all are extremely hard working and raising children in a world very unlike the one they grew up in.

Steenroid's avatar

Yeah and the way they are acting makes boomers wonder about The Who idea of inheritance.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

If boomers have money, it is their money.

They earned it.

They can burn it in the backyard if they want to.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Every generation has had young people who wasted a lot of money, just as every generation has old people who criticize young people rather than trying to understand them. But it’s still true that right now there are financial obstacles people in their 30s are dealing with that we didn’t have to.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

You must have lived a charmed life. I’m only 70, but there isn’t a kid in America in their thirties that can’t make a decent living today. And trying to understand them? They’ve been damaged by their upbringing, and their schooling. Media doesnt help,but if they ignore the stupidity that are “ influencers”, and keep focused, they’re perfectly capable of making a living. I struggled my ass off in my thirties, to raise a family, inone income. It required 16 hour days. Owned my own business and worked shifts. Yeah,it can be done. The economy was worse, the mortgage rates were ridiculous.

Johnny-O's avatar

If we truly are the greatest country in the world, you shouldn't have to struggle your ass off and work 16 hour days to have a middle class life. That is the life of a serf, more or less. That is the problem. Over half of the spending in our economy comes from the top 10%, which tells you all you need to know - most people are scraping by, if you can even call it that.

Cheryl Ebersohl's avatar

Yep. We bought our first house at age 37. We camped a lot when the kids were little.

AM Schimberg's avatar

We bought our first house when I was 25. Married at 21. We both had very every level salaried positions, but we lived on my husband's salary and saved 100% of mine. This served the purpose of saving a substantial amount over those few years for a down payment on a starter home and making it possible for me to quit work and be a stay at home mom when our children were born. We are used to living on one salary, so we didn't have to change our budget at all for me to stay home.

Kat's avatar

Same here, if I worked my pay was saved or used for vacations and/or cable tv. We sacrificed so I could be a stay at home mom.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Outstanding, Kat & AM Schimberg. You are the backbone and future of this great country. Thank you.

cat's avatar

SO and I were in our 40s when we bought our first home over 2 decades ago. We didn't complain about being that much older. And in today's dollars, we earned a lot less than the younger whiners now. To get there, we didn't go on vacations, ate meals at home, made our own coffee, and rented in lower-class neighborhoods. To me, too many people are comparing themselves to others. Envy, jealousy...

John A George's avatar

Same. Drove an old car. Brown-bagged lunch my entire career. Ate dinner at home. Didn't take vacations. Now I have it 'made' because over time (which they don't seem to understand) my wealth accrued by investing instead of frittering. Yet compared to my ancestors, I had an easy life.

cat's avatar

Yep, I brown-bagged too, and made my SO's lunches as well.

We still drive old cars. Our oldest pre-dates 2010.

Karmy's avatar

I still drive a 2003 Explorer. Just put in a new engine because it was cheaper than buying a new or used car.

Pat Wetzel's avatar

2002 BMW 325 ix wagon (all wheel drive)

rolandttg's avatar

I had 40 employees , including 6 secretaries. I had the oldest car and cheapest house in the department. did take nice vacations, but with frequent flyer miles from all the business travel, it was not that expensive. With free airfare, It was cheaper to go to Hawaii during the summer than Nags Head or Virginia Beach.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Oh and did I mention, our cars are a twenty year old bmw, and a thirty year old f350. They all drive the newest,shiniest cars, and bitch about not having any money. Do you really need a 5 or 6 hundred dollar car payment? No, you don’t.

Johnny-O's avatar

That always baffles my mind. Take out a big loan for a car while you piss money away on rent. Braindead. But, we live in a culture of instant gratification and one where image is so very important, which is completely engrained into kid's heads by the time they are 8 now thanks to constant screen time (thanks parents).

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Built our first home, then sold it to by a bigger, much older home. It pays to know how to use tools. It’s funny but I’m in a neighborhood that would be traditionally older folks, being high value waterfront. Now the young kids buying these homes, can barely change a light bulb. So in order to own one of these homes, they have to pay someone to maintain it. I find it funny, they’re all great kids, but didn’t they learn anything growing up? I’m not kidding, they’re buying million dollar homes, and think all they have to do is pay the mortgage.

cat's avatar

yeah, like they never learned how to mow a lawn...

Johnny-O's avatar

2 decades ago your dollar bought you much more than it does today. It isn't quite as simple as you painted it.

cat's avatar

Well of course. Didn't want to write a book...

Susan Seas's avatar

We’re in our late 50’s, and I guess I can consider myself having two houses because I am pretty much a caretaker of my parents house too. 😂😅 I remember my hardworking husband who received a raise and I bought shredded cheese because it would help me time wise. I will never forget that first time of choosing ease over cost.

Fla Mom's avatar

I remember when we got our first washer and dryer, in our 30s. What luxury! We didn't have to schlep to the laundromat every weekend.

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

FYI: shredded cheese is always inferior cheese.

In the industry, a batch that fails quality tests to sell as blocks will be "sent to shred", and if it's not good enough for shred, it goes to pet food.

You are trading a few moments of time for the highest prices for the worst products.

Susan Seas's avatar

100%!! I never buy it now. LOL I am totally from scratch with real ingredients. I was looking online for a recipe that used Velveta!! I wanted to comment and say Processed food cheese, Not cheese, Not food! 🤢

Margot Wooster's avatar

Yeah, too bad melted Velveeta tastes so good 😕

S.P.H.'s avatar

Nothing lake a wet blanket just before Christmas, Dolce.

I guess we should all make our own cheese. 🙃

Dolce Far Niente's avatar

Just helping consumers be informed.

If you are willing to trade quality for convenience, have at it! The processed food industry loves you, and many Americans will agree with you.

Or do you prefer to stay ignorant? That's also an option.

John A George's avatar

I almost do, get it from an Amish farmer!

S.P.H.'s avatar

Lucky you! I admire the wisdom and talent not to mention hard work of the Amish

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

When the bicycle my parents bought me got stolen, they wouldn't replace it. It was the only transportation I had. I got a job and bought a 10 speed Schwinn for $110 at 14. Never looked back. Then they started borrowing money from me.

Kat's avatar

Most of these youngster whiners had everything given to them on a silver platter. I believe having to work hard, save, and plan is a concept that doesn’t go with the instantaneous world they live in! I and my child served in the military to pursue our educational/vocational dreams. The USAF paid for his Medical School, and now he’s paying back his active duty commitment. Adulting can be daunting at times but that hasn’t changed for all generations.

Johnny-O's avatar

While there are plenty of whiners, the working class in this country is doing itself a disservice by pointing fingers and assuming its just a bunch of lazy whiners. The job market overall sucks, unless you are experienced in a few key (current AI bubble for instance) industries. Decades ago one parent could work a factory job and have more than enough for the family to live a solid middle class life. That simply does not exist anymore.

LaNell Tew's avatar

Exactly!!! We didn't have a pot to pee in at 27. We did have a modest house with sparce furnishings and old cars, plus two beautiful babies. No fancy vacations, tattoos, or frequent trips to the drive-thru. I was hanging out cloth diapers and shopping the grocery specials and garage sales. The bitterness and disparaging comments about "boomers" from the younger generation is hard to swallow.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

But the bitterness and disparaging comments from boomers about the younger generation are ok?

Kat's avatar

Oh please!! Are your wittle feeling hurt?!? The Boomers ‘ parents went thru the Great Depression, they were tough as nails and didn’t put up with our whining! Get up and go slay life!!

Bryn Cannon's avatar

Don’t be a jerk, Kat. I’m just trying to make the point that there sure are a lot of people in this comments section criticizing young people while virtue-signaling to everyone how wonderful they are. All this generational mudslinging, the comparisons of who suffered more - older people should know better than to so quickly judge others. And lest you misunderstand me, I am an older person. My kids are in their early 30s. They are doing their best, and they are not whining.

Anne Clifton's avatar

We borrowed about $30,000 to build a house in 1977 and still live in that modest house today. At one point, our bank offered to charge us no more interest if we would double our mortgage payments, but we could not afford to do it (although we did pay the mortgage off early). A really stupid thing to me is that we actually qualified for free lunches at school for our children. We didn't need that help; we had everything we needed (not everything we wanted). We husband was insistent on saving money, which really benefits us now.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

How much would that house cost a young couple now?

Anne Clifton's avatar

I suppose it would be in the $300,000 range in our area, 10x the original loan. My husband's salary the first year we were married was $6000 per year and I didn't work away from home. He never told his father what he was paid because he knew it was more than his father had ever made as a farmer. I don't imagine his salary was a whole lot more three years later when we built the house. We did a lot of the work ourselves. I can sympathize with young people now, but I'm tired of hearing people blame the boomers for all the problems. We were not part of the Woodstock, hippie, sexual revolution group.

Kalinda's avatar

Look at the actual data. In 1985, you could get a starter home in SoCA for $78,000. 1100 sq feet. That exact same house is now $676,400. So using the old calc of house cost should be 2.5 times your salary, 1985 house needed a $31, 000 salary. Today's house needs a $270, 560 salary.

This is not a whine, it's plain facts. And that doesn't include the ridiculous property taxes. If we continue to raise salaries, then dollars become like yen, where you need a thousand to buy a candy bar. The house cost increase is fake, caused by corporations buying single family homes for inflated prices.

This alone is a valid complaint.

Btw, I owned that home when I was 25.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

Living on either coast now is unaffordable.

Young people turn their noses up in my area in PA for houses that run 250k.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

How many young people do you know? Young people go where the jobs are. They can’t afford to turn their noses up. They’re just trying to make a life.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

"How many young people do you know?"

Do you think I live in a nursing home or something?

How about toning it down a notch or two.

Bryn Cannon's avatar

No, I don’t think that, but I am also not making gross generalizations about young people being spoiled brats like so many people are in this comment section. And the perfect cure for that kind of meanness is to meet a few young people and actually get to know them so you’ll be more likely to be compassionate and understanding of their situation rather than making unfair and inaccurate assumptions about them.

Perhaps I should “tone it down”, and maybe others should stop piling on too.

Kathleen Janoski's avatar

The young people I know who made sacrifices in life were those I served with in the military.

Being in a war zone.

Being shot at or blown up by an IED.

Watching their buddies being injured or killed.

Being deployed for months on end.

Being separated from their families and missing the birth of their children, Thanksgiving, Christmas, and birthdays.

Then having injuries and illnesses from their jobs.

The above listed experiences are what I call a real sacrifice, not the inability to buy a house.

Kalinda's avatar

But if you work in Massachusetts, are you going to live in PA? Maybe some can, but most cannot. And lets stop and think again. If a house is $250,000, you would still need a $100,000 salary. That is still considered very good wages.

I looked at a random $250,000 house in Pottsville, PA. built in 1920, most of the house in the neighborhood have been raised and apartments put up (common for older neighborhoods with large lots), school ratings 5/10 for elementary, 7/10 for middle and 5/10 for high school. That is not desirable if you plan to have children. That is not "turning your nose up", it is practical planning. Spending all of your money on a house that is probably going to need repairs with schools that are not very good and where there are few family homes doesn't make logistical and financial sense in many cases. This is assuming there is work at $100,000 per year available. For a retired person, it might be a great find, though.

I'm not saying there aren't some that are spoiled. What I am saying is that the "American Dream" is daunting to the younger generations. My D has been saving for a down payment for a house for 5 years. She works at Boston Dynamics so makes a good wage. She can't even remotely afford a house anywhere near where she works and not even where she is currently living 1.5 hours away. That's not a whine. She saves, plans, drives 1.5 hours each way, lives without a lot, and still cannot afford to buy a house where she works or even an hour and a half away. It is beyond frustrating for some who are trying very hard and get told they are "spoiled" for simply wanting what their parents had, doing the same thing their parents did, and it isn't enough. Not anymore.

william howard's avatar

$12/hr and no real wealth until my 50s

Alan Devincentis's avatar

Took me to retirement to acquire real wealth. And that’s because I invested the little we had wisely. And I’m not wealthy, just know that if the ac dies, I can afford to call a guy. But I don’t have to. It did, and I replaced it with six minisplits I installed. But I did pay a guy to bring in a crew and fill all the ductwork holes, plaster and paint. Couldn’t have done that ten years ago.

Salt's avatar

This is actually an eye opening video describing why the poverty line should actually be 140k. It is actually pretty incredible how much better people had it. There is a reason it was called "the golden age".

https://youtu.be/i3-wTqnzJvI?si=TtCbMTXfb_YGUOok

SB's avatar

But I don’t see anyone asking “why are home prices so high?” Maybe something should be done about the Blackrocks, wealthy Asians, etc who are buying up properties. Trump and Congress need to address this problem.

Skeptical Actuary's avatar

It's actually a pretty rare older person with several houses. This IS the New York Slimes we're talking about. They interview people making $80K to $100K and pretend those are the people that are struggling.

NO. Way too many young people can't find anything but temp jobs or jobs as door dash or uber drivers, which will probably end up paying less than $15 an hour once one figures in wear and tear on the car.

Jeff, why don't you give us an informal survey of the kids of your circle of friends?????

How many children of lawyers are doing temp jobs out of college? A LOT.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

“There’s even a sponsor form, the I-864, which includes a contract. The contract puts the sponsor on the hook for any welfare given to the immigrant by any local, state, or Federal agency”

I had no idea this was the law of the land. We DO need to amend the law, however, to read “must” rather than “may.” I cannot begin to express my glee at the enforcement of this very important law! FAFO indeed.

They really won’t ever learn, will they?

RunningLogic's avatar

I’m very happy about this, too! In the 90s after immigration reform, I know people who came here and had to sign a document saying they wouldn’t be a burden on the country when they immigrated and essentially forfeited any government help. I could never understand how that got changed but apparently it wasn’t, just not enforced 😕 So glad it’s finally being done right!!

162.550's avatar

8 USC 1227

(a) Classes of deportable aliens

(5) Public charge

Any alien who, within five years after the date of entry, has become a public charge from causes not affirmatively shown to have arisen since entry is deportable.

🌱Nard🙏's avatar

I think it should be one year…

James Goodrich's avatar

One of the biggest problems with illegal immigration is that so many people are complicit with breaking the law. Here’s a great true local story, certainly local for me, that went national.

Growing up “The Christmas Season” was always a magical time of year for me. I’ll always remember this one cold snowy December day walking home after a basketball game, I was 12 and played in the local Recreation Basketball league. It was cold and dark and snow was already on the ground, I was finally getting home from the long walk across town. I walked into my house and there was my mother decorating the Christmas Tree. She had already put the lights in the windows and the garland on the mantel. I was raised Catholic and my mother always made Christmas special for us kids. Christmas was once the best holiday.

Many threats to Christianity come from local influences. The other day I came across this story right in my home town that has gone national. A local reverend Stephan Josoma at Saint Susanna’s parish had set up the nativity scene at the church without the baby Jesus, the Virgin Mary or Joseph. He placed a sign saying ICE Was Here. The obvious presumption being that ice agents had taken all three of them and that they somehow were illegal aliens. Below it, in smaller letters, it says the holy family is welcome in our church, implying that Jesus and the holy family could seek refuge in the church. The archdiocese in Massachusetts sat on this but were finally pushed to step in and tell Josoma to take the nativity scene down, but the leftist priest insists on politicizing Christmas through the church and the sign remains. It’s incredible how the left insists on tearing down the foundations of America. Statues, our bill of rights, medical freedom to the point of dangerous experimental injections forced into people’s arms. The birth of Christ is the birth of Christianity itself, and father Josoma should not be allowed to desecrate it. A Catholic Church or any Christian Church should not be used as a place to push a priests ideology, left or right. This same priest has pulled similar shows of blasphemy in the past. It’s pretty obvious, at least around here, the Catholic Church leadership has pledged its allegiance to the democrat party. Globalism and open borders are put above God and Jesus. Trafficking Illegal immigrants into America is not only illegal but it’s big business, and the Catholic Church has made millions of needed dollars on open borders and illegal immigration. As always, its all about the money.

Now I’m no theologian but Jesus was a subject of the Roman Empire. Well Bethlehem, Nazareth and Egypt were all part of the Roman Empire, so Jesus and the Holy Family never broke immigration law. In fact nations and borders are spoken of over and over again in the scriptures. There are walls with watchmen and armies at those walls to protect cities, nations and the people that live behind those walls. Not anyone was allowed to just enter into a city or country.

People always speak of what’s in the Bible, what it says, they nitpick about what the words mean. Sometimes you need to focus on what it doesn’t say. It would be a perfect story, wouldn’t it be, if when Mary and Joseph got to Bethlehem and the first door they knocked on they were welcomed in, sure use my house, it’s yours, take it over. Imagine if then Mary gave birth to Jesus right there in the master bedroom of a strangers house, it would have been the perfect narrative for the open borders crowd, but that’s not what happened. All the doors that were knocked on were slammed shut, rooms were full. It’s human nature for a family to be secure in their home and then of coarse be generous to others, not selfish in a bad way. Anyone you let into your home you want to know and have some trust. You’re not going to open your door to just any random stranger knocking at your door. Sometimes you have to look at what’s in the Bible and sometimes what’s not in the Bible. This is why Jesus was born and placed in a manger. Did this priest not learn this in seminary? I’d love to ask him why are there 40 foot walls around the Vatican?

One more point for your reading pleasure😁. What is heaven? Heaven is a Kingdom, the Kingdom of God. You don’t just walk into the Kingdom of God, there are gates and if there are gates I’m sure they are connected to walls. Like the borders of most all countries not anyone is allowed to just walk into heaven. You must live a life of faith, you must believe in God, repent your sins, you must explain your good works, you are judged, and if you are found worthy you are allowed to enter. Heaven has strict border policies, hell has open borders.

There are other places for people that break the laws of a nation. Maybe reverend Josoma should think about his fate before he performs his acts of blasphemy here on earth. Maybe give a homily of how we shouldn’t tolerate the rampant abortion here in the state of Massachusetts or the constant assault on marriage and family, or how about speaking out against RADICAL LGBTQ plus agenda, NO? It seems many churches in Massachusetts main agenda that flows onto the pulpit is breaking the law by allowing in illegal aliens and their push for citizens to break the law, house or help house illegal invaders, struggling families forced to pay for this.

Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just enjoy Christmas again, focus on the birth of Jesus, and his life, like when we were kids, without all the politics! J.Goodrich

TriTorch's avatar

“Those who enter our country illegally, and those who employ them, disrespect the rule of law. And because we live in an age where terrorists are challenging our borders, we simply cannot allow people to pour into the United States undetected, undocumented, and unchecked. Americans are right to demand better border security and better enforcement of the immigration laws" —President Obama

Edited to add:

Why the judas said this:

Bloomberg: Headline: Venezuela's Violent Deaths Fall to 22-Year Low on Migration

Text: Venezuela's rate of violent deaths dropped to its lowest level in more than two decades following years of massive migration as both criminals and victims fled the nation's economic crisis.

Archived Source: https://archive.is/JOaY9

James Goodrich's avatar

When Obama said that statement you posted the democrats were a competitive political party here in America when it came time for elections. They became so radical pushing anti American communism the democrat party, Obama, made the decision to allow millions and millions of undocumented unvetted illegal aliens in to sway these big cities and states to vote for communist. If immigrants from one place are allowed to move in, take over a city or a big swath of area and not assimilate, not ever understand what it is to live in a free society, not understand or want to understand what America was founded on, you will get what Obama always wanted, the fundamental change of America. He, from behind the curtain used Joe Biden to take on this part of the plan possibly without him even knowing what he was doing.

Politico Phil's avatar

"Wouldn’t it be nice if we could just enjoy Christmas again, focus on the birth of Jesus, and his life, like when we were kids..."

James, thank you for putting your finger on this. Between the politics you pointed out and the commercialization of Christmas, Christ is no where to be found in this American holy-day anymore. No reverence, no sense of worship nor even any concept of Holiness. I miss the Christmas of years past in my youth. Our culture has changed - and not for the better. I fear the effects of the unfettered immigration of 105 million non-Americans will make "America" unrecognizable to me in 20 years. It's almost there now!

FH's avatar

Last night my community showed up for a December birthday & Christmas concert. It opened with the secular songs; break for cake; then finished with the very spiritual, devotional songs celebrating the life of humankind’s Savior.

I was very surprised how many stayed for that part, and sang or hummed along.

Taking that as a sign of the Lord changing hearts, much as he did upon anointing Saul as Israel’s first king.

Politico Phil's avatar

1 Samuel 8:

6 But the thing displeased Samuel when they said, “Give us a king to judge us.” So Samuel prayed to the Lord. 7 And the Lord said to Samuel, “Heed the voice of the people in all that they say to you; for they have not rejected you, but they have rejected Me, that I should not reign over them. 8 According to all the works which they have done since the day that I brought them up out of Egypt, even to this day—with which they have forsaken Me and served other gods—so they are doing to you also. 9 Now therefore, heed their voice. However, you shall solemnly forewarn them, and show them the behavior of the king who will reign over them....

"And you will be his servants. 18 And you will cry out in that day because of your king whom you have chosen for yourselves, and the Lord will not hear you in that day.”

19 Nevertheless the people refused to obey the voice of Samuel; and they said, “No, but we will have a king over us, 20 that we also may be like all the nations, and that our king may judge us and go out before us and fight our battles.”

Politico Phil's avatar

Remember, "servant" is another word for slave. If all the wars AND the plandemic has taught us nothing else (not to mention our tax burden), we should realize that we are slaves of the USG.

RunningLogic's avatar

Yeah that part about the nativity being used for an anti ICE message really galls me 🙄😡 As you pointed out it’s not in any way an accurate analogy. Particularly when the “immigrants” are violent criminals and even at the minimum, people who don’t respect the laws currently in place. Those clergy are real tools. You have to wonder what they’re getting out of the illegal aliens being here. I wouldn’t be surprised if they were benefiting somehow…

There have been so many stories in my area lately about crimes including vehicular manslaughter and related crimes, burglary, assault, murder and rape, committed by illegal aliens. It’s really infuriating that we even have to deal with this scourge and that American citizens who are paying for these people to be here are harmed by them 😡🤬

Susan Seas's avatar

We must realize the “Church” has fallen, or at least is compromised. We struggle to find a local Church to attend. I watched all the local policies during C. Most failed.

NoVA mom's avatar

After the Methodist split/debacle…we left our church of 22+ years for a true Bible church. Holy cow - what an amazing difference!! Thank God we found it! We have learned more in 1.5 yrs than the entire time in our old church. ✝️💜

Maha's avatar

Did you hear the Vatican is opening a Muslim prayer Room? How inclusive.

RunningLogic's avatar

Fat chance ever finding the equivalent in an Islamic country. This bending over backwards for them has got to stop 😕

Maha's avatar

Agreed. But that will take banning psychotics from running for office.

Politico Phil's avatar

Indeed! Our "shepherds" have failed us and have been intellectually captured. A new generation of pastors is needed to rise up and bring revival to the Church.

Politico Phil's avatar

And right there was the test! And our churches failed the test.

SD Scott's avatar

No repentance, no gospel, no power.

Abiding Dude's avatar

The "church" needs to openly remove all associations with Zionist Judaism...

Trump should do the same, it is cratering his support.

Oregon Kathy's avatar

Well said. I hope you wrote to this priest and his superior with your thoughts. Do people even do that in the Catholic Church? Public comments are always so important, especially in the church.

Silent scorn's avatar

Wow 🤯 so well said!

Copernicus's avatar

Joseph was going back to his home town. They weren't immigrants. They were likely staying with family, not in a stranger's barn.

In Middle Eastern cultures where everyone knows everyone, it is simply unthinkable that Joseph and Mary would have known no one in Bethlehem.

Additionally, animals were often kept in a part of the house off to the side, thus, they let Mary put the new baby in the feeding trough for his bed.

Author Kenneth Bailey and Paul Meier (spelling?) speak to this.

James Goodrich's avatar

Yes I know they were probably staying with family. Bethlehem was filled because of the census being done so even the family house was full and doors there were shut. Supposedly they were put into possibly a cave like area where animals may have been kept, hence Jesus was placed in a manger. Amazingly I’m watching Jesus of Nazareth right now on News Max. They show the Virgin Mary giving birth to Jesus in a stable,

SB's avatar

I’ll recommend the book “Heaven” by Randy Alcorn

Larry Schweikart's avatar

Jeff, Today in my substack I took on a slightly different topic, namely all these congressional resignations. What's going on? The Hoax News media, as always, is missing it, as are many of the establishment RINOs. Bottom line: Trump is moving so fast, across so many venues, Congress is irrelevant, and to even become a tiny bit relevant, they'd have to work much harder. I think Mace, MTG, and others did not expect to have to work hard at all. Notice: NO Junkets or "fact finding" trips to Monaco. Gee, why? Cuz Trump's programs are DONE before these idiots can even have a hearing. I even think this affected Bongino, who admitted it was hurting his family to be in DC so much. They can't keep up with Trump, and they are frustrated.

BigE's avatar

Disappointed that Stefanik is leaving politics. Liked her.

Toni Weisskopf's avatar

Her resignation sounded a lot more to me like "someone is threatening my kids and I can't protect them."

Fla Mom's avatar

I hope she simply told the truth and decided that her child(ren) deserve to have a mother. I wish more women did the same.

Margaret P's avatar

Maybe she realized that being governor wouldn't make her happy and in fact she didn't want to do any of it including representative.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Would you want to govern a state with a communist muslim running your largest city? It's time to roll up the sidewalks and build a fence around NYC.

P.S. Jewish residents best consider Aliyah.

Larry Schweikart's avatar

Yep. But I think a lot of them are seeing that the institution of Congress no longer will permit them to be stars.

MaryAnn's avatar

Larry: I think the insider gravy trading train is coming to its last stop so, not only will they not be stars, they won’t be mega-millionaires either.

FH's avatar

Possibly taking a position in the administration?? I am expecting a January shuffle. Especially after Susie Wiles incomprehensibly sat down with a Vanity Fair writer over the course of nearly a year.

If she left under duress, she might do some real damage, though so 🤷‍♀️

Jacquijacq's avatar

I think she was threatened. Polls prob showed she could beat moron Houchil. My spider senses found the wording curious “most important thing is my son’s SAFETY and well being” Who throws in the word safety like that?!?!? She was told drop out or else!

Bard Joseph's avatar

For destroying the first amendment in colleges

Abiding Dude's avatar

Adam Schiff is a big fan of hers... which I find to be alarming.

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Johnny-O's avatar

Bongingo is a zionist bootlicker.

SD Scott's avatar

Congress has been useless for decades, well before Trump.

The failures of Congress necessitated a Trump.

CHop's avatar

Since 2016, over half of Congress has either resigned, announced not running again or died. If you follow the "conspiracy" Q, not all will be arrested, but all will comply. In addition, the Brunson case, sitting with the Supreme Court, accuses every sitting member in 2020 violated the constitution by not sending the election results back to the states for 10 days. What is better: Announcing to the country that most of Congressmembers have to step down and we are left with a skeleton crew or slowly have them leave one by one and keep the country at peace?

Bard Joseph's avatar

Bongino saw where the bodies were buried.

Jacquijacq's avatar

I’m wondering if Bongino was frustrated by slow moving DOJ. All in all, I think Atty Gen is the weakest link

Larry Schweikart's avatar

I hear that a lot. Bondi has won every single case for Trump. That's job 1. Her Civil Rights division has driven DEI out of the institutions. Job 2. DOJ has crushed the pedo rings, job 3. They are removing narcos right and left. Job 4. If they don't do job 5 of getting these traitorous slots, we'll, I'll take the big wins.

Steve Stevens's avatar

I don’t know where you’re getting your news from but Bondi is terrible!

She recently lost the Comey and James cases!

DEI still goes on.

She’s made numerous lies regarding the release of the Epstein files.

She goes on Fox and issues threats all of the time but nothing ever comes of it.

Trump has to tell her to do her job in Truth Social posts.

Read the comments section of news articles about her, and you’ll see everybody trashes her.

She’s pathetic!

Johnny-O's avatar

Appoint and nominate clowns and you get a circus.

Jacquijacq's avatar

Just once - once - I’d like to see someone arrested and dragged away in handcuffs. These case wins are wonderful but the criminals - Brennan, Clapper , Comey et al still roam free. It is really frustrating. And I feel like she knows “if I keep winning these cases, no one will notice that the traitors walk free”

Abiding Dude's avatar

Perhaps they are disgusted by many of Trump's policies... especially his support and funding of Israel's mass murder and land thefts.

Mudpuppy's avatar

Ignore abiding dude…he’s 100% jerk 100% of the time.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Hoover me, you craven little maggot.

Truth offends you... good. F-0ff.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Are you that stupid?

Or are you a jew.

Larry Schweikart's avatar

You might have a point except that the number of DemoKKKrats resigning is almost as high as the number of Republicans, hence, it has nothing at all to do with Trump and something far larger, more structural. Moreover, as I show in my own substack at regular intervals, Rs just NET GAINED over the last year 1.18 MILLION more than Ds---hardly the sign of people disappointed in Trump, and those gains came across the entire US. Every single state that reports has shown a rightward shift, and it has continued almost unbroken in almost every state (four exceptions, 2 in PA, 1 in NJ, all in during primaries when Ds were registering lots of new voters). In other words, since the MIDDLE of 2024, with a handful of exceptions, every single state started a righward march. NC will flip R in the next two months (Ds led by 175,000 just four years ago.) PA is now D+170,000 and falling. I was D+1 MILLION in 2020. AZ has seen over 200,000 new R registrations, net. FL, of course, is off the charts, with Rs now at +1.4 MILLION (in a state that was D just five years ago. In other words, there is no evidence whatsoever other than ridiculously unreliable polls that show any D good news anywhere.

Abiding Dude's avatar

GOP gains came from the total disaster that was Biden/Kamala/Wray/Blinken... and some hope that Trump would be better than his first term.

He's not. At all. His support and funding for Israel's genocide, his murder of Venezuelan boat suspects, his unprovoked bombings of Iran and Yemen... his obvious loyalty to Israel over America... his Cabinet of Clowns... his suppression of the Epstein, 911 and JFK files... all despicable.

Gallup: "3 weeks ago - President Donald Trump's job approval rating has slipped to a new second-term low point and is approaching his all-time low of 34%."

What about "all time LOW" do you not get? Bidenesque numbers...

Larry Schweikart's avatar

They are all correct. You're a nut. PS, I absolutely nailed the 2016 and 2024 elections regt d I wn to the EV & pop vote #.

grshawver's avatar

Well I don’t plan on using Trumps new prescription site. I’m 75 and don’t take prescription drugs. I take a lot of supplements however. My wife’s attitude is that “if insurance will pay for it, you don’t want it”!

Frances Burger's avatar

I wonder if the fanatics will refuse to use it because Trump's name is on it.

S.P.H.'s avatar

Interesting question Frances. TDS is a powerful ailment.

Abiding Dude's avatar

I wonder of the Trump family will profit off of this.

Legit question, no?

SD Scott's avatar

If you want to thin your blood, I recommend enzymes - such as nattokinase, serropeptase, lumbrokinase. Papain & bromelaine.

Etc.

Taken on an empty stomach with plenty of water. Start high & taper down to a maintenance dose.

This will unclump blood, break up scar tissue, reduce inflammation, and cleanse the biofilms from the intestinal lining (fixing constipation). Take with magnesium, is my suggestion.

Fresh raw foods have similar action.

Austin the Pug-puppy's avatar

I was thinking the same thing as I watched the woman talk about "giving away" the meds!

It's astonishing how few people know that nattokinase thins out blood.....with zero side effects and plenty of benefits.

SD Scott's avatar

Serropeptase reportedly breaks up microplastics!

I’m guessing these gum up everything from capillaries to small intestine microvilli.

Which is why I suggested taking it with magnesium, to help remove the gunk.

Pineapple & papaya help, also.

CHop's avatar

Yes! Fulvic and Humic acid also help remove the toxins

SD Scott's avatar

These are chelators.

Bard Joseph's avatar

The miracle blood thinner is whole aspirin

SD Scott's avatar

Aspirin (or willow bark extract) has anti-cancer effects.

FH's avatar

Dr Reiter made a presentation to an audience of professionals in Japan in last couple of years on the effectiveness of melatonin as an antioxidant as well as a replacement for aspirin in event of a heart attack.

I am not conversant in the particulars. The talk is easily found on YT.

Mary Ann Caton's avatar

But it also causes brain, stomach, and gut bleeds. Take pycnogenol instead.

CHop's avatar

Much of what you mentioned is in Dr. Tau Braun's protocol which is posted on X. He is a bioweapons expert and discovered 3 ways the spike wrecks havoc on the body. I would add Augmented NAC vs NAC as it breaks down more of the spike protein.

It's imperative that microclots are broken down as it is believed to lead to the white, fibrous clots. Berberine to repair the cuts in the endothelial lining which lead to the body clotting.

See the substak Clotastrophe for more information on the white fibrous clots which cannot be broken down and must physically be removed....if the patient survives them.

SD Scott's avatar

So hideous!

I cannot overstate the importance of colonics in removing sludge from lymph, blood, liver, spleen, brain, etc via the gut. After it’s been chopped up by enzymes.

SD Scott's avatar

Many benefits to garlic - parasites hate it!

CHop's avatar

A book from the early 2000s, The Complete Cancer Cleanse, states some cancer is parasites and recommends drinking garlic water.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Ivermectin and fenbendazole are safe and far more potent for anti-parasite... and many are thinking cancer is a parasitic disease...

But yes, garlic had many benefits.

CraigN's avatar

Problem with those alternatives is the ability to measure effectiveness. Do you have any information on how to do that for comparative, quantitative measurement?

SD Scott's avatar

Same tests one would use for non-alternatives, I imagine.

Personally, decongesting my spleen, etc - and clearing my intestines of sludge - speaks for itself. For my parents, the cessation of TIAs and pulmonary clots has been life-extending.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Lumbrokinase blew away a bad DVT in my rt leg, in 2 months, no Eliquis poison.

My Doc wanted me to take Eliquis for a YEAR.

Abiding Dude's avatar

Imagine the benefits to cardiac patients and many others... IF the Docs didn't suppress these amazing enzymes...

DMSO too... Fenbendazole... Ivermectin... Artemisinin... Apricot seeds...

Jo Highet's avatar

Yay! I’m ready to help and volunteer my time to identify and send out demand letters to all those compassionate sponsors of illegal immigrants. Can we start with my old hometown of Portland, OR? I want to make a difference and start exercising my civic duty!!

Cabogirl's avatar

I’m from there too. It’s my home. I’ll help !!

Kathryn's avatar

Jeff wrote: "Get this (and I am not making this up): Bristol Myers Squibb and Pfizer agreed to provide Eliquis for free to all Medicare patients."

Another quote (author unknown) comes to mind:

"The mice don't understand why the cheese is free."

A cheaper blood thinner medication will allow more people to take it. The side effects can be severe... and profitable. From sad experience -- bleeding in the eyeball, causing blindness; bleeding in the brain, causing complete short-term memory loss; fluid build-up in the lungs, which can appear to be caused by congestive heart failure, leading to a hospice classification. After a hospice classification, the medical establish can pretty much have their way with you, and no one will hear you scream.

Juliann's avatar

A friend took it. Now his heart is “shredding”, (his words). Idk that I would take any “free” (covid vax) drugs.

Cabogirl's avatar

Agree. It’s free but .

Also did you know they lowered the blood pressure scores to get the other half of world on blood thinners.

Juju's avatar

That’s their most used play from their playbook

Freedom Fox's avatar

Cheaper, even free Big pHARMa drugs! Woohoo!

...or...

Cheaper, even free hemlock!! Woohoo!

These are interchangeable. Big pHARMa drugs are just slower acting.

True story.

I won't be lining up for my cheaper, free hemlock. Nor should other right-thinking people.

Cabogirl's avatar

Free hemlock Hahaha. That was a good one.

Freedom Fox's avatar

Step right up, get yer free hemlock here! Goin' fast! You look like you need some free hemlock little lady! You're in luck! Did I say it's freeeeee?!?!

Cabogirl's avatar

Ya no kidding. Lined up for a mile.

Freedom Fox's avatar

A mile upright coming, horizontal leaving.

Johnny-O's avatar

Ding ding ding. Everyone sees this as a huge win, but in reality, is it? Just making poisons cheaper is how I see it.

MS's avatar

Medicaid, not Medicare (which would include all seniors not just low income). I'm afraid Jeff misspoke.

TriTorch's avatar

"Without the way, there is no going.

Without the truth, there is no knowing.

Without the life, there is no living." –Thomas a Kempis

Ned B.'s avatar

I still have my well-worn copy of My Imitation of Christ by Thomas à Kempis which was given to me at 14 years old when I entered the seminary to study for the priesthood.

TriTorch's avatar

If you still have it after all this time, I'd like to read that book =)

Ned, did you see my latest passion project?

https://tritorch.substack.com/p/the-light-is-gathering-3-unto-earth

You typically leave a thoughful reply under these, and I look forward to them and have yet to see one. Hope all is well!

Ned B.'s avatar

I've bookmarked it just now for later reading. I'm out the door for an afternoon of therapy. Chronic pain has made me chronically unable to keep up with everything.

TriTorch's avatar

Understood. I know you've been battling that and I had hoped it had gotten better over time. I will put and keep you in my prayers to overcome this

Ned B.'s avatar

Hi TriTorch, I finally had time to read your passion project. I purchased a (Kindle) copy of your son's book. Bless you.

TriTorch's avatar

Thank you and thank you my friend. Let him know =)

Barbara's avatar

Young people are not getting married and they find single life is very expensive.

Marriage brings challenges but it also brings opportunities. One salary saved one salary for expenses. Common focus of family and commitments brings success and happiness.

Karen C. Wilkinson's avatar

I have commented here before that my husband, Dr. David Wilkinson, MD was refused the Ivermectin script he wrote for himself by the very hospital he served. I reached out to multiple attorneys to take our case. My husband survived and is back to practice by miracles of miracles which including a double lung transplant. I published a memoir with the details: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BXTCFRT4/

I want to pass a law that if what the physician has prescribed will do no harm then they cannot be refused what they wrote for themselves. In this case, would Ivermectin he prescribed have kept him off of the ventilator, made a DNR eventually resulting in a DLT.

WP William's avatar

Evil is real and demonic influence is commonplace. The system failed because of actual people and their decisions and actions. What individuals were responsible for the attacks against your husband? These cowardly criminals who hide their evil intent and ideology behind policy and excuses have names.

PapayaSF's avatar

Regarding affordability as the Democrats buzzword: what else could they have chosen? Seriously, is there any other topic that wouldn’t make them look like fools or worse? Immigration, crime, trans ideology, foreign aid, government regulation, healthcare: they’re on the wrong side of the majority every time.

Beth's avatar

What I love is how so many bad things keep boomeranging back to the dems.

They are all screaming about the Venezuelan boat thing, and low and behold Chuck Schumer push through a law that made what Trump is doing to those boats legal. Then we find out the immigration scam with sponsors was, wait for it, a law made by democrats. Then we read the quote in the comment above from Obama about how bad illegal immigration is.

The Democrats would be nothing if it weren't for all of their hypocrisy. Democrats really that stupid or are they just amnesiacs? They don't seem to remember anything that happened before last week. Well I guess that's probably the percentage of mentally ill people in the country, and they all happen to be democrats. Or dead. Lol

PapayaSF's avatar

They are flailing because they are trapped, by their own actions and by Trump. Blatant lies and the hope that voters don’t remember things like Biden inflation and Obama “solving healthcare” are all they have left.

RunningLogic's avatar

They count on US not being able to remember 😑

SD Scott's avatar

Party consists of the easily brainwashed. Morality invented by media day to day. Spiritually adrift.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

I certainly hope something happens to health insurance prices. My husbands and my premiums went from $1000/ m to $3200/m. That’s a $10,000 deductible. We had to go to a bronze plan for $2400/m. We are in our 60’s and would be wiped out if we had a big medical bill. I guess I will keep driving my 14 year old suv.

Jeff S's avatar

It's easy, Tiny. Just never get sick. And don't buy health insurance. Use your money for food and travel. Er, I gotta go. They're coming to put that damn straitjacket back on me.

Cabogirl's avatar

Don’t go to Doctors !!! They’ll kill you !!

Jeff S's avatar

Ditto hospitals. How many people are sick in hospitals? All of them!

Cabogirl's avatar

Haha. LOL How many dead people in a Cemetery???

Jeff S's avatar

Dad jokes. My father knew them all. Your dad, too? Hahaha.

Cabogirl's avatar

Yes. Definitely.

Bard Joseph's avatar

Stop seeing doctors who want to test you

Cabogirl's avatar

Or do rather unnecessary procedures. Those are the big money makers

CHop's avatar

The screenings are free!!! But if they find something, it's big$$$$.

Jaime's avatar

It’s not health or care

They r the problem they know how to keep u alive and simultaneously fat sick stupid and addicted and looking to them for answers… sad but legit

Jeff S's avatar

Some system, huh?

Copernicus's avatar

Health insurance in case of catastrophic injury or illness is a necessity unless one is independently wealthy.

S.P.H.'s avatar

"If you like your plan, you can keep your plan"

Such a devious lying president. I wonder what the plaque below his picture on the wall reads...

CraigN's avatar

I would be curious to have more context to this. Is this coverage that you purchased on the federal insurance marketplace or a broker/agent, are you both self employed or does your employer not offer health insurance, is $2400/mo. for both of you combined or individually, is the $10K the out of pocket limit or truly a deductible and is that also combined for both? That would be interesting to know.

Tiny basket of deplorable's avatar

Self employed and we did purchase through the marketplace. We had the gold plan with a 10k deductible now we have the bronze plan, same deductible. We are in pretty good shape but my husband is scared of a medical emergency that could wipe out our savings. That is the total premium for both of us and 10k is the total out of pocket for us together also. I wanted to look at a Christian plan but he wants to stay with the local hospital plan. They have been getting the subsidies all these years.

Alan Devincentis's avatar

If you have coverage,why would a medical catastrophe cause financial collapse? With a 10k deductible? Have you shopped?

Romgrp's avatar

I hear you…. In the same boat. 😞

RJ Rambler's avatar

..."The sponsor, ready to sign, stumbles over the liability paragraph. He holds the pen, blinking, unsure, and looks up querulously at the free immigrant attorney. “Does this mean…” they begin to ask. They needn’t finish the sentence. The lawyer waves her cigarette airily and says, “don’t worry about that section. They never do anything about that.”"

This comedy act has been done almost 90? Years ago. Groucho Night at the Opera "That paragraph is ok. It's in every contact. It's called the sanity clause." 🤣 Chico "Everybody knows there ain't no Sanity Claus" 🤣 Chico signs and they have a contract.

Jackieone's avatar

HAHAHA 😂‼️ I remember that movie!

RunningLogic's avatar

They were always so funny!! 😆😁