A breaking news C&C Special Edition: the White House confirmed the DOJ's "Cased Closed" memo is real. But nobody else is talking. Amidst the uproar of hot takes, what does it all mean?
If Trump is using the Epstein info to blackmail dirtbags, It's fine with me. I will take the failure to release the info as proof that politics is dirty as hell and many politicians are compromised or they wouldn't be allowed by the global rulers.
It's great fun to use the tactics of lying scum against them, they are so shocked.
So know where you stand with President Trump. I don’t think he is on the list. He has never been on any of the flight logs to Epstein Island. No one has ever even hinted that he might be. None of the young girls who have come forward have ever talked about Trump… it has been Obama, Clinton’s, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Oprah to name a few. P Diddy is probably in there to.
I think there is more going on and this is not the end of the story’s. There is a reason P Diddy got off.
Give me a break … she came forward when he was running for office … another one just like “Dr” Ford with Kavannah. The left pays people to lie. Find something that has at least a little credibility.
seems like it. but they can say what I want, I can think what I want. And I think it is fake. Words are cheap. We all know high heads would roll if all came to light. They know it too, and it are THEIR heads.
Jeff is busy scouring all the sources daily to get us a comprehensive set of facts. I’m sure it takes hours! Plus he has to write the newsletter. Give him a little grace and don’t nitpick something silly like faulty math.
Assuming all the options are mutually exclusive, and cover all possible outcomes (the last scenario effectively being “none of the above), the odds do still have to add up to 100%.
As soon as he came to town, Epstein was deep sixed in a way that was designed to humiliate the general public, and then wow, we are sending more weapons to our Jewish friend in Ukraine!
I have a #5: GITMO has tribunals going on and the judgments will be forthcoming and will answer all the questions. Obama, the Clintons, Oprah, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Bill Gates have been on every list I’ve seen and on the lips of victims whose have spoken out (most keep getting censored). One victim talked about Bill Gates and his experiments on victims at Epstein Island. It is pure evil.
That is not a government draft. Government rmployees don’t write drafts with leaderhead in the margins. When it goes to be released it will be printed on paper that already has the leadershead on it. I don’t know why this pdf is showing this way, but nothing about this says that it was done by a government employee. Anyone who would have worked on a draft would have been at least a GS-13 and would have experience with the format. This format is all wrong. I actually went to the DOJ website to see if they do anything different with their formatting than the military… and they don’t.
Anyone here willing to take a prayer request? My son (Adam) could use some prayer today and tomorrow by “two or more gathered in my name”: He has been trying to get hired since February and hadn’t received a single “in person” interview after sending out several hundred resumes. (Ai seems to strip out white males or something because he has a masters and a 3.96 GPA and should have been hired before he even graduated a couple weeks ago.)
Tomorrow morning he has his first in person interview in TX, he’s flying out today. It’s with a really neat company that does simulation systems for pilots and would be perfect for what he is trained in (software engineering and also game design.) He’s really good at what he does but has understandably become very insecure with being liked and “chosen”. We could use some powerful prayer for God to calm his anxiety so they can truly see what he is capable of, and to prepare his heart if this isn’t the job God wants him to have.
I know there are far more serious matters across our nation needing prayer, and I almost didn’t want to ask, but we don’t really have anyone we know in person to ask for prayer - so I hope you will allow me this request here. Thank you 🙏
I’m blown away. I posted thinking maybe I’d get 5 or 6 likes and that combined with the one community member I have met in person would give me a powerful 6-7 to pray for him. That made it worth asking.
But I’m sitting here in tears because after only 30 minutes since posting there are already 81 likes. EIGHTY ONE PRAYERS! 😭 And the notifications keep coming. I couldn’t have imagined such support. God is hugging me through you. Thank you. I love this community so much. ❤️
I will keep everyone posted as to whatever God’s answer to these loving prayers is.
Well I haven’t always been kind. 😬 *gulp* I’ve used some significant snark and sarcasm against others who posted unkind words here, or were being divisive trying to pull us apart. But your compliment inspires and convicts me to do better. ❤️
Kindness is not being nice. It’s bigger than that. Sometimes being kind is calling out and pointing out things that need to be pointed out. It’s not a feeling, it’s love for another’s good. And sometimes that doesn’t feel good but you know it has to be done.
Sarcasm can sometimes get people’s attention and help them to listen. I haven’t seen evidence of anything untoward so rest easy! 😊
Wouldn't it be something if the state you were searching for recently ends up being Texas. Stranger things have happened. Praying Adam lands his dream job after so much hard work.
I’m in awe. If only y’all were privy to my inadequate and absolutely clumsy prayer on my porch this morning before posting. My last words after an hour of fits and starts were, “God I just don’t know how to pray for him, and I need help”. So I posted.
The C&C army is an amazing group of people, even in the smaller things - we care about each other on a personal level. Even as more serious national things are happening across our country, we don’t minimize each other’s hearts and personal needs in our own little place in it all. This is but a reflection of two things: the author Jeff Childers and his steadfast principles that have resonated with all of us, and the Word of God that so many here trust. Bam! The C&C Army.
To quote from one of Aretha's early songs (Are You Sure? (w/ The Ray Bryant Combo)), something to the effect of "you may not know how to pray, but He loves you when you try, so raise your voices high and the Lord will hear you!" 🙏 🥰
Thanks for adding that link! And on that album, I really like the Tenor Sax on It Ain't Necessarily So, Who Needs You? and the melancholy All Night Long 💯
This brought tears to my eyes!! I’m so glad you posted today and even gladder (though not surprised!) about the wonderful response you’ve gotten here 🙏❤️
I may have to create a new Facebook account for this, or … toughen up and be willing to use my old account that I haven’t used in over 13 years. I experienced a lot of heartache in the past using it, having to see all that we were excluded from in other family and friend’s lives, so it just became easier emotionally to not be exposed to it. What we don’t know can’t hurt us.
But I would definitely enjoy such a C&C community like this one. Thanks for the referral. I’ll give it some thought.
Praying for our children is national security!!! Lord Jesus BLESS Adam, we ask you open doors that only you can open, but if not this …move mightily on his behalf, give him favor with you and with men. And as always thy will be done , as you know Adam best Lord 🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🙏
May God fill your son with unshakable confidence in his every endeavor and put an employer in his path that sees his value, hires him, promotes, and prospers him. 🙏
Good job, mama. I can feel your love for your son because when his heart aches or stomach quivers, you feel it deeply.
Thank you God for supporting this bright young man as he transitions into adulthood. ❤️
Joining you in Prayer for the Peace of God to overwhelm your son and for His will to be made apparent. His timing is perfect but the waiting is hard. Please let us know how everything goes.
This has been an ongoing problem for my three in Illinois! Seriously. Same! 😭 Depressing for everyone. We are provided for still, by God's mercy. Prayers appreciated as I pray for yours. ❤️
Add my two to the request. Both my daughter and SIL, just completed their PhD's, BioMathematics and Marine Science. Neither have any interviews on the horizon. A lot of applying, few interviews, zero propects. Soon, they will be moving in with me, along with my 17 month old granddaughter. I like that part but they had dreams that are not coming to fruition like they had hoped. Be still and know he is God. Thanks everyone.
Will do, Robin 🙏 It’s amazing the number of stories like yours and ours and everyone else here. What indeed is going on in our country when qualified people who are hard workers can’t get jobs?
We also had Adam move home with us last week to provide a stress free environment for him, (he was living with three other guys that drank and smoked weed daily and it started to interfere with his own life.) I also can tend to managing his diet, which will help his mental health and disabilities, while he continues his job search, and saves his money from his part time job.
RJ, praying for your precious three kids! Lord, You know RJ's three kids, their strengths and weaknesses, their skills and abilities. We humbly ask that You would provide employment for each one, in keeping with all those factors so that they may excel in whatever direction You lead them. You are the God Who provides and we thank You for Your provisions every day. Amen.
Father we ask for the 3 sons of “RJ Rambler” to know You and Your word, be filled with Your Spirit, guided by Your righteous right hand and set upon high. We know You have a plan for them. Lead them to the career You know will best serve them and Your kingdom.
The LORD bless you and keep you, make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace. Amen
LORD no prayer is too small for you. We lift up Adam and pray that you will guide and direct his thoughts and prepare him for his interview. If this is just a steppingstone for something bigger for him, let that be perfectly clear to him. Give him confidence and encourage him, remove any anxious thoughts from his mind and fill it with Your promises. I pray the employer sees something special in Adam that would make him a perfect fit for their company. If not, fill him with your peace and continue to guide him along the best path for his life. In Jesus name. Amen
I will join you, and at this time I would like to encourage you to seek out a church of true believers who will also join with you in prayer for all your needs. They do exist! I will add the request that a believing church close to you will reveal itself soon.
We are meant to be in community. We cannot do this life alone, but it can be so hard to find a solid church. One that may be worth driving an hour to. So hard. Pray for God to put genuine mature believers in your pathway.
One option to look into is SCADA engineer. It can translate over from a software engineering job. Inductive Ignition university is free and it's up and coming. Utilities all over the country are always looking for SCADA engineers.
We've also had a position open in Dallas for almost 2 years because we can't find anyone, but it's more of a Cyber focus but it's a decent job that pays well.
I listened to the White House press briefing yesterday and Peter Doocey pressed the question multiple times about this weird “Epstein memo” - Leavitt was uncharacteristically cagey and also totally missed her simplest off-ramp (“you’ll need to ask Pam Bondi what she meant by ‘I have it on my desk’”). You could hear some incredulity in Doocey’s voice.
However, I think there’s probably a very simple explanation: too many Republican legislators and governors are on the list. It would decimate the forward momentum of America First to lose so many (or even one or two) Republicans desperately needed to further the Trump agenda. (Remember, the Democrats won’t necessarily lose any voters if they are on the List, their voters wish they were too. But Republican voters would care and there’s no guarantee they’d get another Republican soon enough to matter, if they primaried multiple current legislators.) I think the Admin is probably looking at the big picture, for better or worse.
That could very well be true, but it's absolutely a despicable reason, to avoid releasing the information because people would want to avoid voting for child rapists??!! I don't give a good god damn what letter some politician has in front of their name, if they are a child rapist they need to rot in jail, and if someone is covering up that fact so that their party can stay in power, then they are absolutely complicit criminals as well, and not fit to hold public office!
THIS DISHONESTY and Coy, nonsensical WEAK EXCUSE-MAKING should destroy a significant level of Team Trump's support and erase any momentum for the 2026 Elections. MANY in MAGA will view this with CORRECT perspective, and like that turd Robert DeNiro simply say "F-k Trump". This Betrayal of America via MISINFORMATION and yet ANOTHER "Nothing to See Here after all!" will be met with-- screw this... we supported the uprooting of the CORRUPTED system and exposing ALL the dirt--everyone's dirt. Now it's just more concealment and lame-dick Lawyerspeak???? COUNT ME OUT, take your depraved maniacal mainstream Deepstate Swamp Culture and ENJOY ALL IT GIVES YOU---Fake Dossiers, maligning, Backstabbing, Leaks, Lawfare, and assassinations attempts, ALL of IT and screw off. Was Trump 2.0 set up by FBI and Biden ahead of this so that they'd have Nothing to show us? FINE, then dig into that and disclose it ALL, but to run cover for our domestic depraved enemies at this point and then ask us to move along Doesn't work and shows that this administration is all bluster and bullshit when it really comes down to who's running the show and pulling the strings even after unleashing Patel and Bongino. Maybe Matt Gates really was the third rail they didn't want to touch this case??? WTF DJT? Unacceptable MFers OWE us more than this pile of crap
Because sometimes we just have to choose the lesser of two evils. Don’t ever believe that anyone got elected to any political office without some kind of corruption.
what a question.... You KNOW the answer of course--but that does NOT EXCUSE this snow job on this particular issue; HE made MAGA what it is yet he can not get a pass on this issue---this was ginned up as a reason to VOTE them in... handle it like it NEVER EXISTED and the whole thing FAILS and collapses into dust
yes, focusing on what we CAN control and influence out in flyover country is all we little guys can do. Certainly if we were in the Cesspool of D.C. we'd be forced to heel and muzzle ourselves as Bongino and the rest have been. i was thinking they'd get to the meat of the matter in 2026 but apparently sweeping it under the rug now to "settle" the matter so it's in the rearview mirror for everyone is the strategy. Outlandish Rightwing Conspiracy Kooks can't be trusted media nd Dems will say again...just like The Clinton Files, WACO-OKC, Vince Foster. Ken Starr Report, Sandy Berger, and Hillary's 33,000 emails... And had the Clinton Regime been held to account. in 1998 or 2000, would we be better or worse off?
And not just communism, but far worse perversion that would never be investigated. Out of the frying pan and into the fire? Throw the baby out with the bath water?
yes of course, but you're just fine with this anemic handling of this? It's not like we the people ever had any say in it...these guys, "OUR GUYS" made a stink over this issue and now they tell us "never mind, we were played by hysteria and disinformation, forget we ever said anything"
There’s a certain kind of person that uses these weak arguments. A person that can’t face the idea that things are more f**ked up than they ever imagined. These are the people who just woke up during The Scamdemic years.
Line from A Few Good Men Comes to mind, “You can’t handle the truth”. Even the victims don’t want to utter their tormentors’ name out loud for fear of revenge. So long as the traffickers are being stopped and victims released I’m going to have to be satisfied that SOMETHING is being done.
ok so we're enabling or turning a blind eye to the rapists but curbing robbers---hey that's great we have to have some satisfaction thrown to us i agree. Germany severely reduced petty crime by 1938, factories were humming, migration was orderly, Weimar licentiousness and all manner of weak-minded liberalism was in the dustbin, Commie street agitators were where they belonged. I would have preferred stonewalled silence and inaction to a dogcrap sandwich, i mean where's the 4D Chess going on with this??? If they're baiting or setting a trap or whatever great but why even say anything at all? there's really no obligation to have moved this direction. Like proclaiming "Release of the Kraken!" only to later meekly mutter that you were fooled or mistaken or were hyping the story to flush out the villains.
I'll keep doing my own thing as i have since 1995, never trust what any of these nuts ever say, and forge on. It is never good to hang anything on what "leadership" ever says or promises.
There’s a certain kind of person that uses these weak arguments. A person that can’t face the idea that things are more f**ked up than they ever imagined. These are the people who “just woke up” during The Scamdemic years.
yes, blinders on, HOPING and wishing and ever waiting, head down, eyes averted, silent and tasked with busyness....polishing the deck chairs on the deck of the Titanic and fluffing the pillows (someone more important will actually ARRANGE them). This is myself..i understand that the Captain and his corporate bosses were behind the human error of the (unforeseen?) collision with an iceberg...pondering even that there's even some sinister elements in the whole thing with insurance and contracts and corners cut and celebrity passengers aboard (whispers and gossip surely). Nevertheless, here i am diligently busy, unaware of the gory details of damages and certain doom far below decks, but at full stop, only partially aware, a bit frustrated, and oh so very busy with busyness possessing no real power to act in any way with definiteness, clarity, and insight for success.
Surprised but not astounded. Primarily disappointed in the amateur look and approach as i feel it gives credence and power to our real enemies. Mostly, feel required to shrug it off, not beg for an explanation or reasonable excuse. Then be resolved to forge onward despite the "clumsiness" (at the top) and work to Make Colorado Less Democratically-Progressively-Socialist-Elitist Again. How about you? I'm honestly asking as this substack following of C.&C. are normal decent reasonable people
At this point I appreciate Jeff’s consistent guidance to be steady. We’ve seen so many attacks that we’re guaranteed “kill shots” (politically) and yet the end results are so different.
Remember, for fellow Christians, that God is the one who sets up rulers, and we are admonished to pray for our leaders. Trust God’s plan, and that he is guiding POTUS through some difficult circumstances.
Sorry, I'm just done with that. It's absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable to try to get child predators elected to run the country because they're on the very good, best ever red team, completely different from the terrible awful very bad blue guys. I just don't buy it.
Interesting timing for Elon to have said that. Alex Jones just came out today and said he thinks its 1 of two possible things. 1. The evidence exposes some awful things about Trump or 2. Trump is using the blackmail evidence to control foreign leaders and others and how he got NATO to pay and got the BBB passed. That is Alex Jones' speculation. I do remember a video in Trump's first term where someone said when he did his world tour when he first became President he informed all the leaders of what he had on them and that was how he controlled foreign affairs to get done what he needed to do. Again all someone's speculation. Like Jeff says, lets wait and see???
Hmmm…this actually makes sense how the leaders just work with him all the time. I don’t like it though, as it is blackmail. For a good cause though I suppose…
Excellent observation, unfortunately. I know your last question was meant to be rhetorical but it deserves an answer. Come to think of it, you did answer it, in the sentence right before your question.
LOLOLOL how many years have you been telling yourself that? is there any expiration date? or is it just much easier to keep believing the ever more ridiculous lies?
OK so they did the math and figured Dems would win Senate and House in 2026, stall out any SCOTUS replacements nominated in 27-28, this is just the chemotherapy and radiation required for MAGA to survive long enough to take out the real bad guys...then we have 2028 we'll have to wait on...if our no one is above the Law Congress and States are this Fking SICK then they deserve wholesale radical replacement--not suspended or dissolved not 10 years of trials and legal motions. Team huddle should be able to pull out ALL of the Bad Seed at every level in some form or fashion with planning and bold action. This "Screw the Voters, this is above them and they're idiots who'll vote how we tell them anyway" attitude doesn't cut it. So 70% of Congress is arrested, 80% of Governors, 40% of state legislators....we can survive that and put ANYONE of average IQ in those positions of power and improve things at same time. One could even argue that a Corrupt Congress can pass NO legally binding legislation so where does that leave us?
I agree. Anybody who harms children, elderly, and animals deserves harsher judgement. There is no reason in my mind to even begin to contemplate harming these innocents, let alone actually choose to do it. It takes a special kind of deprived and sick mind that I’m not sure can be rehabbed. Once you prey on the vulnerable I think that’s the lowest you can sink and the hardest to rehab from…
I agree. Humans are on whole other plane of existence and worth than animals, however much I dearly love them. Our elders and children are treasures I would choose over any animal.
I put them in the same sentence as elderly and children as animals are as vulnerable and as abused as elderly and children, if not more so. Humans will always dominate animals and so we have an enormous responsibility to treat them well and respectfully use them for our good as God intended. We need some of them for food, and they were put here for that purpose, but the life before that should be blissful and free of as much fear as possible. I grew up on a farm and know the realities of what animals are for, but they should never be abused. There is never a time where that is okay. Hopefully that clarifies!
They had to blackmail Congress to pass the BBB. Now we can hide the Epstein case for now, until the next BBB or War with Iran.
What ever happened to the actor who lived next door to Epstein, who could blow the whistle, Gene Hackman and wife died suddenly? Must have been Monkeypox.
Jeff mentioned 17 year olds. Seventeen year olds, a few generations ago could very easily be married and have children already. And were they physically forced to have sex, or were they beguiled by the wealth and power that they were moving in and complicit?
I have a different concept of a ‘child rapist’ than that of a powerful wealthy man seducing and using a young woman.
Neither is right or good in anyway, but there’s a big difference between the rape of an infant, a toddler or a young child and consensual sexual intercourse with a 17 year old.
Who would you rather have in charge, sodomites who anally rape babies, or stupid rich men trying to prove their virility and desirability with 17 year olds girls?
The Demonrats are the first, some Republicans may be the second.
Wow, funny how it's always "but the other guys are worse" even when we're talking about child rape, you literally have the balls to say "but the other guys rape younger kids." You guys are so pathetic to defend this. If it was Biden you would be rightfully demanding justice, but because your guy got in, move along, nothing to see here!
Obviously I think raping babies is a horrible crime, and should be punished with the death penalty. I also think Epstein's clients have likely done things that deserve the death penalty, but of course if Republicans are involved in covering something up, it must be fine, nothing to see here.
The big distinction in my mind is that some of the clients may not have realized a 16 or 17 year old was a minor. TRUE ignorance should be somewhat mitigating.
Good point. There are men out there labeled as sex offenders because of 16 year old girls claiming to be older, then getting mad and accusing them of rape.
So would you say that all people who attended WEF meetings at Davos are globalists? It would seem that a list of people who visited Epstein island would include people who were curious, but who had no knowledge of prostitution or child abuse? (Bill Clinton? Not.) What about the business people who wanted to party with the powerful? The island was a destination to mingle with the wealthy, and powerful. If your name is on the list, you will automatically be seen as guilty until proven innocent. What happens after the list?
Maybe instead of a client list we should start with a list of the people who set up the whole scheme for Epstein, the people working with him to blackmail particular influential people.
I think the very term "client list" is misleading… how about passenger list for the airplane flights? And hotel guests for the island list? And can we talk about the two autopsies? As much as I want to see justice (hangings in the public square… 'he’s well hung'!) - obviously that’s not happening yet. I’m going to keep watching the movie… as a Trumper.
It's a good question. All people attending Davos at the very minimum were complicit in Globalism. And if one had any business of size, one almost has to be complicit to some extent or else be crushed by the state.
And if the state is so big and powerful that it can compel owners of business against their wills to what they otherwise would not do, then what are we?
This is precisely what makes the doctors who refused to go along with Covid Tyranny heros.
Dave, you run your own inquisition like this all the time? Where is your guillotine? You sound like a crazed member of Antifa. Hehehe. The loons have landed on the lake. Hehehe!!!! Oh, you are a perfect example of a typical Dem.
We need to find out who is guilty of sex crimes against children. That seems clear. I'm talking about the client list, the list of people who participated in the abuse of minors. Not the list of people who met Jeffrey Epstein. That's what we want to see.
Itvwas a blackmail operation for powerful people. I'm sure they kept a list and tapes, but far too many people in our government are on that list for us to ever see it.
Yeah, I'm not seeing it either. I shouldn't admit it, but I had PLENTY of sex when I was 17 and cute, and the more powerful the man, the greater the appeal.
I mean, do we have evidence that they were bringing in ACTUAL CHILDREN? Like 10, 12 years old?
I’ve not heard evidence in regards to younger children. I do believe there are truly heinous crimes being committed with children, but I don’t know that was happening on Epstein’s island.
No, but the implication was there… I’m still waiting for the satanists to be outted… including John Brennan and the man with the creepy eyebrows (he died) inside our military…
even the Exotic Animal Farm bust in Bandon reaches high levels of shadiness. Most of these "farm busts" include kiddie porn and snuff films on their computers.
Hehehe. It’s Oregon. What animal can’t be treated or moved? We move animals, even houses, everywhere else. Tiny Kotex ie Tina Kotek wants to euthanize “useless” people the same way.
I would hope, or rather, I wish I had hope that the DOJ would be interested in investigating which of Epstein's rich and powerful friends did or were likely to have participated in his sex trafficking ring, and prosecuting those who did. It seems they are not, however, so no, there is not any special list of pedophiles. All the pedophiles are safe in their positions of power over us all.
We saw how Trump was found “guilty” for a dressing room incident? A dressing room? Rape? Ya right. And you are telling me we need to forge ahead no matter who is harmed?
Or this maybe an opportunity to purge the Republican Party of RINO/Perverts. The timing of the purge is critical with the 2026 mid terms approaching. This also could be an opportunity to use Epstein blackmail against prominent Democrats, to obliterate their Global Communist agenda.
Entrapping Dems seems too easy a task and what real shame would there be anyway unless with UNDER 17 types and what globalist nonsense wouldn't they promote anyway???. The centrists and rightists may be a target for control and shame, but the influential, apolitical, wealthy types would have a bullseye on them for Mr. Epstein's bosses wouldn't they?
I vote for option 3 plus some behind the scenes event that has rattled everyone. If they would just say "the info here is too politically valuable to reveal" people would howl and get over it. This handling of things is way too clumsy. 🤔🤔🤔
I’m on that track, but I’m leaning more towards ‘there are people on the list who are going to be investigated/charged for far worse than what they did on Epstein island.’
It’s like a guy undercover in a cartel. He sees illegal things every day, but he’s waiting to put it all together so he can arrest the whole group or bring down a network. I’m trying to be patient, I think here is more to the story.
That’s a great theory actually, that possibly there’s even worse crimes that will carry harsher penalties and the DOJ wants to get them on those to ensure they indeed get the harshest possible punishments overall. Being involved in child trafficking may prevent your re-election, but there could be a LOT of legal maneuvers to get off with less penalties. If they wait and get them on crimes with stiffer sentences they can assure that they pay the full price of the Epstein involvement too. Hmmmm
How can the administration move forward as they focus on a dead guy from the past? Epstein is dead. His cohort is in prison. How about Pee Diddy getting away with child abuse and trafficking?
Starting to think Musks 3rd party is just the replacement for The criminal Act Blue NGO / “Non-Profit” funded DNC…. The powers that be MUST maintain at least a two party system to keep us divided…. Otherwise the Govt actually would represent the people.
AND…. not a single utterance about Ghislaine Maxwell charged and convicted for what? She’s in jail for 20 years for crimes directly connected to what is now all lies? Nothing to see here? Never happened!?!?!? What absolute BS… Bongino saying nothing, going along with the silencing of Bondi and Kash is an unacceptable departure from the truth giant his reputation has garnered him… how can we trust any of them anymore!? This whole debacle may indeed destroy the entire MAGA movement… DT ran on transparency in DC, destroying the deep state and revealing the Epstein files… this house of cards is crumbling with the sheer weight of all the coordinated calculated LIES!!!!
Follow Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch. He's been on X shouting from the rooftops asking why Bondi's DOJ is stymying FOIA requests about Biden-era activities that Judicial Watch has been investigating. She has done nothing to remove/replace the Deep State goons on her own staff who are hiding information from the American public. This latest episode is but the most glaring and inexcusable example.
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Excellent Tucker interview with Saagar Enjeti just dropped on all things Epstein. Despite Saagar's unusual name, he's a true-blue American who gets it and is an encyclopedia regarding the whole Epstein mess.
He covers it all, including the obvious Israel/Mossad connection that so many are afraid to touch (including the timing of Netanyahu's visit).
Key quote, "The released Epstein memo is not for you or me as they know no one will believe it. It is a signal to all of those involved that the US government will do whatever it takes to cover this up."
I call bs on the theory - because NON-PEDOPHILE REPUBLICANS can fill the positions quite easily. We HATE RINOS - and would vote for any good candidate - especially knowing that Trump had the balls to clean house.
I hear you. I don’t like this theory myself (despite presenting it). But while Republicans *may* be able to “easily” fill the seats of those primaried it may not be fast enough to keep up Trump’s current speed. It could mean delay on a grand scale. I hope this isn’t the end of taking down any and all who have broken the law and hurt children and others but I still trust Trump, the only leader we have had in our lifetime who has effectively kneecapped the deep state.
I think it's premature to say he "kneecapped the deep state" precisely because of this controversy. Until we get something more substantial than "nothing to see here, folks" I will assume the deep state is still in control and that DJT may just be another psyop. Keep in mind we've also been kept in the dark about Butler for the past 6 months.
But there are probably at least an equal number of democrat legislators and governors on the list. I say get them all, regardless of party or position.
Honesty is the best policy. It is hard to cover lies long term and these kinds of sins with Epstein are egregious so the truth needs to come out and let the chips fall where they may.
That's as good a take as any! Once again, I am reminded that these are the latter days of the Roman - uh, American - Empire.
I wasn't going to comment further but I can't resist. As some others have alluded to here, the US is the world's largest consumer of the trafficking and 'consumption' of children to satisfy the sexual appetites of our elite rulers, both in politics and business. Child trafficking is the cartels' biggest profit center. I'm sure that if the truth were known, we would all be shocked at the pervasiveness of child sexual exploitation inside the halls of Washington DC. However, this total perverse corruption of morality is not limited to the Beltway but infects the entire elite strata of society all the way to the West Coast Silicon Valley elites. There is no truer maxim than the statement, "the love of money is the root of all evil" and from this root springs all manner of evil.
Now my point is this. How can such a society filled with such corruption continue to exist without incurring the wrath of God unto destruction? I don't have an answer. We have all seen the fall of similar cultures who were destroyed by their perversions as the judgement of God: Pompeii, the Roman Empire, the Greek city-states, Nineveh, Sodom and Gomorrah and up to and including the German Nazi culture. The list is endless. God is long-suffering in His mercy but there does come a point where He says, "Enough is enough! You have filled up your cup of judgement. Now drink it."
Epstein may be The Test. Will America confront this perverse sin, expose it and repent? Will America bring accountability to those who practice this perversion that is an affront to the very image of God? That would be the beginning of repentance. OR... will America turn their eyes from this sin and deny accountability thus earning the wrath of God in judgement? Our fate may hang in the balance.
You said much of what is on my mind P Phil. I formulated a comment but refrained from from writing it down. Too early, not enough information, which we may never see or know.
The data points I gathered thus far is the body language of the three main players, Patel Bongino and Levitt, current and past, in discussing this topic. It appears to me these three are uncomfortable lying and it shows. The lack of Levitt's prominent cross neckless is telling, I doubt it was a wardrobe oversight. However she needs that cross now more than ever, we all do.
I'll (attempt) to be patient on this topic, not easy when I'm being lied to and the lives of Epsteins' victims are at stake. Perhaps Trump's shout out "we love you God" was more of a tell than we know.
The press sec can take the decoration off or hide it but it changes nothing. Did she think her necklace would burst into flames because she publicly lied? That is not Jesus’ way and she knows better. God sees everything.
One reason for the Epstein Cover-up is Israel. Because the one thing which the public cannot be allow to see is a direct Israeli government involvement in things like 911 and the Epstein black mail ring engaged in by Israel for the sake of political control and dominance over the countries of the Western World.
That is, Mossad and the State of Israel are not our friend. They are a millstone around the neck which threatens to destroy America, dragging her down into the mud. And there is enough material in this Tucker interview supportive of the point.
"...If, as many believe, it implicates powerful top political figures —including the Royal Family and Israeli power-brokers— including here in the U.S..."
There is absolutely no question that the Royal Family and the Israeli power brokers are included! None. Trump's war with the NeoCons MUST necessarily include the British empire elites and Netanyahu's war-mongering NeoCons. The Israeli lobbby AIPAC is probably the single most influential "lobby" in Washington DC to the point that they actually control everything Congress does in regards to Israel and the Middle East and have never hesitated to use child sexual exploitation as a means to control.
Jeff Childers' take on the Epstein files is brilliant and on-target! More is coming. The prophecies of Jonah and Nahum concerning Nineveh would be appropriate subjects in this regard to occupy many a sermon rather than the constant stream of "sermons" in support of Israel as the "chosen people" justifying the endless carnage being carried out in the Middle East all in the name of a speculative "rapture and Second Coming" that has yet to happen in 2,000 years.
If we all did, then there would be change. However, we are destroying ourselves with self servitude and people won't give up comfort or self sacrifice unless by force.
They have destroyed the minds of children and men with wicked temptations, sorcery, pharmakeia, and sexual and other immorality.
At least half of us believe abortion is a right, porn is ok, and injecting our children with toxic chemicals protect them.
How did we become so ignorant and so far from God?
It's a process and it started a long time ago. The Old Testament is a commentary on this process. As history demonstrates, such societies as you describe are brought back to reality by hard times and sometimes by complete collapse, sometimes suddenly such as in the collapse of the USSR and sometimes by extended periods of decay and collapse such as the Roman empire. Always this is God's judgement on history writ large.
@Daverkb pointed out to me that today things happen much faster than in the past. Something I hadn't thought of before. My response is "We better buckle up."
To answer your question though, the answer must come from the church militant, the body of Christ on earth. Possessed of the Holy Spirit against which no evil spirit can prevail and commanded by Christ, the King of kings, who now sits on His throne at the right hand of the Father, the American church must awaken and once again prophetically speak God's law to all of society, most especially government. As Childers pointed out today, for 70 years the church has been silenced under the heel of the State and has been good for nothing but to be trodden under foot. (Does that remind you of a Scripture?) The body of Christ must repent of our dereliction of duty to our King and once again boldly proclaim the law of God as the ONLY standard for culture and society. The church must find her voice once again.
It is no coincidence that the medical murder of children through abortion was subsequently legalized after the church was silenced by the State. Since then the church has been pre-occupied with fantasies about the Great Escape Rapture, the end of the world and the re-establishment of the apostate Israeli state that Jesus condemned prior to his Crucifixion. It is time for the body of Christ to wake up!
Don't believe conspiracy theories that Jefrey Epstein or a list ever existed, just a noted art dealer who suffered a neck accident and more Jeffrey Epstein memes + why is Ghislane Maxwell in jail?!
I was incredulous when I saw this yesterday. Do they think we are stupid? I made some comments about Bondi being incompetent and untrustworthy. But Jeff pointed out at the start - "unsigned, undated", and there were no tweets from Kash or Dan. Very strange.
Either we are being gaslit, or this is a strategy to make the criminals believe they are off the hook, and keep them from fleeing the country which is what might happen if a full list of them emerged.
This is another 72 hour rule thing for me, maybe 72 days.
I really liked Jeff's list of probabilities with %. My takeaway is his quote:
"That silence could signal guilt, disagreement, complicity, or collapse. Or it could signal that something else is going on— something we can’t yet see. Maybe it isn’t a betrayal. Maybe it’s a staging maneuver. Maybe it’s a disaster unfolding in slow motion. We just don’t know."
I think this is an astute presentation of options. Personally I think the last is most likely and not due to wishful thinking, just 1) we know Trump’s approach pretty well by now, he hasn’t changed, he’s not suddenly bought out, 2) we’ve seen this scenario play out several times in just the last few months (a strategic “leak” or info shared, a bunch of people started shrieking, fast forward a couple days and it all makes sense. Might not be a couple days but there probably is something else going on behind the scenes and honestly I don’t care if they share every nitty gritty detail of it. I’m thankful for an Admin that IS for us and IS getting things done and doesn’t HATE us.
We'll see... IMO, he is now completely controlled by Israel/Mossad and Netanyahu... and there are simply too many powerful jews on the Epstein list... and involved in 9011 and the JFK hit too.
He called Bibi the greatest man ever... enough to make a cockroach puke.
He's re-arming Ukraine, still supporting the mass-murder in Gaza and trying to bully Putin... which makes him a 3D imbecile.
I also just read a Substack from Brian Cates about this. Here is a bit of what he said:
"There is a very prevalent reason NeoCon Media Inc. stridently insists it's long past time for the DOJ/FBI to drop all the cards on the table and show the globalist cult what they're holding - so they can prepare their counter-measures.
Most of the public pressure that's been placed on the DOJ/FBI to 'show the cards' since 2020 has been carefully driven, guided and stoked by NeoCon Media Inc. and the oligarch-planted social media influencers who've moved into our MAGA space.
Absolutely nothing is going to be allowed to compromise these very serious investigations into crimes against children until the people handling this are ready to disclose.
And all the loud NeoCon Media Inc. whining and crying and bitching about this changes nothing. It will not speed anything up. It will not force a disclosure that is not in the interest of justice.
The people being investigated for their vile activities will find out what the government is holding against them when their indictments are unsealed and not a minute before.
Yes, when Trump does something that disappoints, the first thing I always think is "he gave us OWS, lockdowns, and the biggest upward wealth transfer we've ever seen. So, what should I expect, really?"
It’s like that Solzhenitsyn line (We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country...)
We’re done. The 3rd stage of the American republic is crumbling (stage one - 1776 to the Civil War; stage two - Civil War to World War II; stage 3 - post WWII to present). Consistent with the three 80 year stages of empires. Corruption, moral decay, and lies are at the center of our very sick country. Our once predominantly Christian country has devolved into a corrupt vain bureaucracy where we grasp at straws, and look on as homocidal maniacs like Bibi the Butcher pays a third visit in one year to a clown like DJT and presents him with a letter nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the Epstein coverup insult is served up to us on a cold platter.
If you don’t trust DJT, I can see your logic - I prefer Jeff’s well thought out analysis - stay hopeful that the greatest good will be served - Bondi, Patel, and Bongino (and Trump) are sending us a signal that they know that we know and the signal is to hang tight, we are in the best hands possible in this horrendously corrupt world ruled by despicably evil
elites who need to be taken down - we must be patient
The best hands possible? Trump utterly failed in his COVID response, to the point of attacking governors who defied lockdowns, and pushing the jabs as late as 2024 (that I recall - maybe beyond that). Trump is a huge improvement, I voted for him of course, and has done a lot right. But "best hands possible" is ridiculous. If Ron Johnson were president, maybe you could say that.
IMO nobody better, anywhere. I was very relieved he got re-elected. Nobody else in government does as much as he does on COVID, which is the issue I care most about.
ok, Ron Johnson is awesome - no doubt and a great human and who has done so much for the COVID issue but NO WAY could handle dismantling the deep state which is what DJT is working on and started working on four years ago. Trump def was not and is not where we need him to be on COVID, but maybe he'll get his justice and accountability there too, I don't think this is over yet. Besides, we need the whole team in order for this to work, of which Ron Johnson is very important component, as is RFKj.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. My opinion was about those in congress and not the executive branch. Not sure Ron Johnson would have the same effect as DJT as Ron has not been to war with the deep state like DJT.
Trump is unusually well suited to take on many of the challenges he has. The way he faced down the lawfare (and ARs and AKs) is truly awesome. Similarly, Ron Johnson is unfazed by facing seemingly unbeatable opposition, and keeps on trucking. We'll never know how he would have done against the deep state as president. I love much of what Trump has done dismantling USAID, DEI, etc. Johnson's manner would be different if he were in Trump's spot, but that doesn't mean he'd be less effective.
Of course I hope you’re right. In general, I am a fan of Jeff’s optimism. I appreciate it that he laid out for scenarios, any of which could be plausible.
FWIW - I voted for DJT, this time chiefly on the basis that I believed him when he said he would pull us out of all foreign wars. The only positive about this latest Epstein coverup — and the timing with Bibi’s arrival on the same day — is that there can be no doubt we are no longer a sovereign nation.
And if Trump was really so clever, he would have claimed that due to the incredibly serious nature of the Epstein CRIMES... much more time was needed before acting... or some other believable story... to delay...
Instead, he ran this laughable and pathetic load of bullcrap out, an insult to anyone with half a brain...
I am going with 'Trump is now totally compromised and controlled by the scumbag Zio-pigs of Israel/Mossad and has totally betrayed his once loyal base... he is a corrupt POS.'
Until proof is given it is not so. I bet a LOT of his base feels something similar.
Yes, the demise of the Republic is nearly complete. We abandoned sovereign control of our money (Central Banking), the State Legislatures no longer select their US Senators (direct voting), and law enforcement is largely federalized. Common Law has been replaced by Federal Rules of Civil and Criminal Procedure. Organic, sovereign State Citizenship was gradually replaced by the Fourteenth Amendment Federal Citizenship. The Electoral College is the next big target. That would just about end any semblance of a Republic. Imagine national elections where the combined voting power of just a few of our largest metropolitan areas
would carry more weight than the combined voting power of two or three dozen states.
I never trusted Bondi from the start. She will say and do whatever works for her. I had a much better opinion of Patel and Bongino. But, Patel is all in for the coverup. Very disappointing. In his Rogan interview, his manner changed when claiming Epstein killed himself and the Epstein saga is a nothingburger. He's not a good liar, at least that was nice to see.
That’s what has me so concerned that there may not be some 4D chess going on, here. I have no doubt that the man holds lying of any kind in deep disgust but I have to suspect that he could manage it if that’s what it took to make The Reckoning happen.
I do still trust Kash, he knows. Bondi is the boss of Kash and Dan, so they are in a squeeze. And I have heard that Bondi is a Scientologist. If so, another reason to distrust her.
Bongino and Patel both sounded like they were reading hostage notes. As did Tulsi Gabbard when she flip flopped on her statement about Iran having nuclear capabilities.
When a meticulous person (Bondi) heads a department that releases releases a less than meticulous ‘memo,’ it snagged my attention. I am a patient grasshopper.
This looks eerily similar to the letter hundreds of us received by our large government contractor employer, when we were fired for not taking the Covid shot. Strange language, and no date and no signature.
With apologies to your mother (and in fairness to her, it was standard usage at the time she taught you that), I cite Chicago Manual of Style (18th ed.):
5.186: ENDING A SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION
The traditional caveat of yesteryear against ending sentences or clauses with prepositions is an unnecessary and pedantic restriction. And it is wrong. As Winston Churchill is said to have put it sarcastically, “That is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put.” A sentence that ends in a preposition may sound more natural than a sentence carefully constructed to avoid a final preposition. Compare “This is the case I told you about” with “This is the case about which I told you.” The “rule” prohibiting terminal prepositions was an ill-founded superstition based on a false analogy to Latin grammar.
I hear you and Nita's mom. But, honestly, isn't the point to clearly communicate? And some of the dadgum rules only work for folks that read "literature," not memos.
BTW, I'm just an engineer, but I can write many a short story that will put most people in tears. I don't generally break the rules, and I'm quite aggressive about writing that fails to communicate clearly. But many people have differing backgrounds. Should they be fearful of the style manual police when considering whether to write to communicate?
Agreed, J Boss, and that is actually the point being made in the Chicago Manual of Style rule I referenced in which they critique "unnecessary and pedantic restriction[s]" :-)
To parrot my occasionally vulgar children (admitted failure of parenthood) I give almost zero F's about the Epstein list. Never forget, the goal is to divide and conquer. Focus, focus, focus.... would it be nice to know, yes, just from a character perspective, but we already know most of our political leadership, R and D alike are compromised.
Whoa with the pile on. We all care! We all care about child abuse, and especially sexual abuse. But I have said from the get-go, there is no way in hell that DC releases that list. They’re not going to do it. I hope Jeff’s number three is correct, Trump is playing Four D chess. I know for sure we don’t know enough yet, and we may never know enough. But I think they’re also looking at this as a destabilizing global event, and the entirety of the West could come tumbling down.
It would be interesting to let this all blow so we can see who the worst of the worst are in society and deal with them accordingly. As with everything, the world will move on as it always does and time will make it that most will lose interest in those perps knowing they have been brought to justice. Shine the light on their faces and the chips fall where they may. I do not believe it would destabilize as there is always someone to fill in another's shoes. We are all replaceable job wise. Let it rain.
Of course it’s the norm Kathleen! No one is disputing that. What we are disputing is whether this list will ever be released or not. We can help the victims because politically, none of us can force this to be released.
What about the victims? I wonder if this would rile them up enough to name names. Of course, they may have been threatened with who knows what if they were to tattle.
I think of all the Muslims and Africans in Europe, Britain. Many are violent and some are just trying to live their lives peacefully. But the violent ones will ravage and pillage and make Europe unlivable for generations. So, damned if we do damned if we don't... Here in the US we, thankfully, have the 2nd Amendment. Europe has pitchforks, and a history of ravaging other lands. Yikes!
Once again, you see why the Left wants to take away citizens’ 2A rights. And it’s not due to their compassion. Europe is learning that. Horrible leaders.
I have one daughter and three granddaughters and I would enact earthly revenge on any M'Fer that touches them. Me and my son's would probably spend a good long while in prison for that revenge. I hope that answers your question.
I’m a lot more concerned with the judges here in Lawrence, KS who regularly give probation to anyone who doesn’t successfully murder someone. Rape, kidnapping, attempted murder? Probation! Their names are Pokorny and Donovan.
I feel exactly the same way. I really could care less about this. It's a setup, any way you look at it, gladiator games to keep the people distracted. Arrest all the pedophiles you can wherever you find them, support the victims, but do the stuff of govt to solidify an agenda in law so that the dems can't easily undo it. Why do we always fall for every shiny object??
It's not ok, it's never ok. I work in an African nation's largest slum with girls - I'm fully aware of the devastation of it. There's a lot of work being done NOW to stop it NOW, and hopefully people involved in this will get their comeuppance in some way - but there was no world in which it was all going to come to light, either because of genuine deep state bullsh*t of keeping useful people in their pocket, or because there was a shredding party or digital equivalent of a nuke.
At this point it’s less about Epstein per se than the fact this admin has been shooting its mouth off from about day 1 re Epstein & Kennedy files & now this 180 which is absolutely not credible. The promise of “transparency”, at least on this issue, is a bald faced lie. So then one wonders what else they might be lying about.
I have lost faith in Trump. Too many actions I feel are criminal, too much info suppressed... too damn many Zionist-supporting pigs in his administration... too many LIES.
One more example that concerns me: Trump has very recently said he’s satisfied re the Butler assassination attempt investigation. Are any of you? We know virtually nothing to this day about the shooter, motives (other than the obvious one), why the FBI hosed off the roof so quickly, body cremated immediately, how he got to such a rooftop position, ad nauseum. Not to mention the golf course one. Zero “transparency”
So because Lord Trump says there's no list, you now no longer care which of our elected leaders have raped children and been compromised by intelligence agencies?? Seems pretty important to me!!
Trump is not my lord and I didn't say it wasn't important. I am willing to give Bondi, Patel and Bongino time to work. This has been going on since... Clinton (based on the artwork....), it's not going to get cleaned out in 6 months. Just off the top of my head, Garland, Barr, Sessions, Lynch, Holder, Mukasey, Gonzalez, Ashcroft, Barr (again), Meese should be facing white hot scorn... They knew and they willfully covered it up.
Exactly. These "leaders" of countries and businesses could easily have been manipulated(aka blackmailed) into doing a lot of really bad things that effected all of us. I think of the scene in the Naked Gun when the fireworks factory is on fire and explosions are everywhere and Frank Drebin is waving people on saying, "keep moving, nothing to see here."
Convenient to not care....the list likely only contains names of some of the most powerful people in the world who work for some of the most powerful institution in the world. People who raped young girls. But hey, who cares! Let them keep living their disgusting lives and hurting others.
I didn't say I didn't care. Obviously most of MAGE cares. If I've learned anything, I'm trying to incorporate that my timing is not HIs timing... If 'my' plan had been enacted in the fraudulent 2020 elections, we would not have gotten a truly inspired Trump 2.0. Give them time time to work, it WILL be messy, but there is most definitely opposition. Evil is just not going to roll over.... and give up. Luke 4:13; ... and he (Satan) left him until a more opportune time.....
Good Lord, you and Kathleen have lost your mind! No one doesn’t care about this! Many many people belong in jail, we all know that. Or strung up with rope on public gallows. We all understand it, we do not lack morals. What we are talking about is whether it’s realistic to believe that the deep state and very many powerful, big wigs in DC will ever allow this to be released. It’s a blackmail set up. The CIA & Mossad ran Epstein. The vile and disgusting child traffickers worldwide fed girls into operations like this. Young children were trafficked over the border daily for at least the past five years. I think they are the worst offenders on earth, the worst people on earth. But that does not change my mind that they’re gonna release this list. Political dynamite.
We don’t have a big difference of opinion, Kathleen. We would both gut them with a knife if they did it to our daughters (maybe not you but definitely me). That’s not even what I’m talking about. Y’all are going after people who are talking about why they think the Epstein list may or may not be released as if we are saying we don’t care about what he did, these are two different subjects.
The reason why people are so outraged is because the Epstein list represents more than trafficking of young girls.
It represents the rot and evilness that exists in the US and the world.
But, let's just deal with the US. People had been given a false sense of hope that the perverts involved with Epstein would be exposed. What they saw yesterday was incredible gas-lighting by AG Bondi. Especially after her numerous appearances on Fox News about having the tapes, about having the files, etc. It is a slap in the face to every person who believes in honesty and truth.
After covid, the lockdowns, the school closures, the stolen 2020 election, the invasion at the southern border, and Biden's disastrous term, people are fed up and at the end of their patience with the government.
And to make matter worse, Trump got really shitty at a press conference today because a reporter dared to question the whole business. And AG Bondi gave some lame reason why there is a 60-second gap in the video.
Here is the link to Trump's really bad response to the reporter's question:
I completely understand why people are agitated, and I am as well and for the same reasons. I for sure will never trust them again in any capacity. As a school nurse, I had to put up with all of the BS from CDC/FDA/ Fauci through Covid while trying to help families and the school itself navigate the restrictions. I have nothing but contempt and disgust for all involved. I remain hopeful that RFK can completely transform public health and root out the decades-long corruption. But I’m trying to be Jeff-like and a Patient Grasshopper bc this level of corruption goes across all levels of government, all of the NGOs, the Deep State, the judiciary, the DC law firms, and the endless Lobbyists from corporate America. Add in media & this is a very tall order. So I’m willing to wait and see what they can do about Epstein. It’s not ideal, but there’s nothing you or I can do to change it. My thoughts have been running to some past presidents who’ve been on Epstein’s plane and island and to Diddy parties?? That alone would keep the list under wraps. DC is a power town & this is how they work.
I just watched his retort. Looks like defensive posture and trying to get out of the ?. I am a supporter of MAGA but he did not handle the ? with his usual poise.
So, you probably disagree with Jeff's assessment of the Progressive Purity Spiral. Thank you for your opinion... time will tell, be patient, don't do anything rash.
You should be worrying about how many people won't vote in the 2026 elections because of this. I've already heard from several people who continued voting after the 2020 Republican election betrayal (against my advice) that they are done now and will not vote again.
I agree with you about the list. I don’t like being lied to by people I trusted to be truthful. Silly, gullible me. Everything from the DOJ is suspect. No unringing this bell.
A concern of many is the ability to blackmail the perps, making said perps willing to go along with anything demanded by those with the knowledge of their misdeeds.
This whole Epstein topic is what is known as a "strategy of tension" technique. It's a hot story and no one knows what to believe, but people talk about it and invest time and energy into it. Classic Strategy of Tension: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-definition-of-strategy-of-tension
I've thought that from day one. All you have to do is look at the photos of 'him' on the gurney. Turn that photo sideways. That is not Epstein, unless his ears and nose changed in prison. There's so much more to this story. Impatience never got us anywhere.
Creation of a new polycrisis while Netanyahu visits, while Palentir rainmaking drones linked to Texas flood, while Tucker interviews the President of Iran.
Agree along with the entire Congress. His go to guy Lutnick was a neighbor of Epstein and his mentor and chose his cabinet along with mysteriously being absent from work at the towers on 9/11.
Small wonder the 911 files will never be released, at least by Bibi's ball-polisher Trump... TONS of really smelly stuff there... here's a taste I'm sure you have seen... comprehensive, not easy to blow off...
Favorite word coming out of Natasha Lyonne's character in the Poker Face series. She is a human lie director. Anyone out there that can do that with our current situation? Would love to hear some body language experts opinion on all this.
Absolutely. My husband drowned many years ago in a mysterious accident, and even through the terrible grief, I was so thankful they found his body right away. The waiting would be absolutely horrible. I wasn't even a believer then, but God was with me and He brought me through.
I agree about keeping them in our prayers but I'm curious. Does anyone know what sort of "Christian" camp, Camp Mystic is? It sounds like a name of a new age religion camp more than a Christian camp.
I wondered that myself until I watched the video of the bus load of girls saved... What were they doing? They were singing praise songs to Him who is able to keep you from falling. Their voices were gorgeous! In the worst of times, having lost friends and starting to barely scratch the surface of understanding the magnitude of that loss... those praise songs filled the air with the hope of heaven, of the Lord watching over them, and the Holy Spirit bringing immeasurable comfort and blessed assurance! That was gold there in that bus! I have no doubt that the Lord reigns at that camp!
It actually sounds Catholic (we Catholics embrace the mystic, including the mysteries of Christ). It's a non-denominational Christian camp that also offers Vespers on Sunday and Mass on Saturday evenings so both Protestants and Catholics can worship. I think its been wonderful holy place for generations of girls and this tragedy breaks my heart.
So lovingly and rightly stated, Essay. We cannot have the Joyful Mysteries without the Sorrowful and so it is here.
What a special place it must be. The glory of God is to make good things come from bad and I have faith that wonders are in store for any place that welcomes people in this way.
The grace and peace of the Lord be with you always.
In 2016 Trump kiddingly asked Russia to find Hillary's "lost" emails; leftist media freaked out claiming Russian collusion. Trump should ask Russia to find Epstein's client list; how would leftist media react to that?
They're all in on it, and we're never going to see that list. I'm sorry, "national security reasons" is an inexcusable answer. We need and deserve to know which of our elected officials are child rapists. Jeff says he can't believe the Trump administration is in on it, but all the evidence points that way. It's not just the Democrats, it's both sides. Left wing, right wing, same bird taking a crap on our heads.
Just a couple of thoughts to add. As a retired fraud detective from a large metro sheriff's department and accepted expert witness before a state regulatory commission on the topics of agency record keeping systems and the mechanics of electronic forgery...
We don't know the provenance of a document. It's easy to forge, type whatever you want, abscond with some letterhead or forge it. Make it good and juicy. No signatures or other stamping. Axios' "source" gives it them. They may be a DOJ insider to add "credibility" to a document.
Maybe. Mr. Childers brings up good scenarios.
I remember in the very recent past about President Trump telling the Iranians he would decide in two weeks what he'd do, then took out their nuclear facilities three days later. IF such a game is playing out here, it could be another fakeout play, probably on a longer timeline. I'm not writing off Bondi, Patel, Bongino anytime soon.
Though my patience is wearing thin on these fucking chemtrails and weather modifications.
NM gov website shows the weather mod contracts and then Ruidoso hit with catastrophic flooding. We've stayed in Ruidoso several times over the years to ski and just spent a week in the Kerrville area this spring. Lovely towns and people destroyed. Same sh*t different day with this weather stuff and people have lost their lives. Makes me so angry.
What if…….Trump traded Epstein info on Israeli head honchos as a playing card to get Israel to not start WW3? Think about it from the chess masters’ view or playbook.
In the land of the intellectually challenged (DC) the DOJ memo takes the stupid cake.
The DOJ may be hyper literally correct in that they may have failed to find a document headed "Client List" in giant bold font. But this is meaningless since the government had access to Epstein's personal and business bank and investment account records; state and federal income tax filings; any and all paperwork filed with regulatory agencies; information submitted in connection with mortgage loans, business establishment and acquisition; information held by his insurance companies; all other business records, including telephone records and emails; thirty years worth of news stories, correspondence, and social media; and last, but far least, the (potential?) testimony and records of the handful of clients already identified.
In short, the DOJ could have and should have derived a client list by acquiring all of the above (and more). If the various prosecutors did not obtain the information above, as a start, they shouldn't have been working outside of a sheltered workshop.
So DOJ, where is the list of clients you identified?
Not to mention the thousands of hours of video footage that Bondi said they have of abuses taking place. Put those names in a list, and BAM! Epstein list. 🤷
Why does the FBI say "there is no list?" If, as they say, there are hours & hours of video of men having sex with underage girls, can't they produce their OWN list? I'm assuming the faces of the men are in the videos and can be identified. This idea that because Epstein supposedly didn't have a list means no one will be held accountable is preposterous.
Tragedy doesn't even begin to describe her life after Epstein got a hold of her. In every interview, she was always so articulate and poised considering the horrible abuse that she suffered. A lifetime of trauma that will never go away for all of Epstein's victims.
Can you imagine how they feel now? Totally demoralized and defeated after hoping that their perpetrators might finally be brought to justice, or at least exposed for their horrible deeds.
ERRATA
— DOJ server was, in fact, up (wrong url used). Fixed
That said, there's no mention of the memo, no press release, or anything else about it on the DOJ's site
Thank you for the follow-up.
If Trump is using the Epstein info to blackmail dirtbags, It's fine with me. I will take the failure to release the info as proof that politics is dirty as hell and many politicians are compromised or they wouldn't be allowed by the global rulers.
It's great fun to use the tactics of lying scum against them, they are so shocked.
Not cool dude. Posting a link to an ad….🙄🫤
read it yesterday and think it is fake as can be.
"A breaking news C&C Special Edition: the White House confirmed the DOJ's "Cased Closed" memo is real."
"Is a rebellion unfolding inside the Trump Administration? Are Patel, Bondi, and Bongino refusing to comment?"
Didn't 'one time' insider within the Trump Administration proclaim to the Twitter/X world that DJT is actually 'on the list'?
Would not that mean, that there clearly is a list, and Politicians have seen it (including WH personnel)?
And what 'exactly' happened to that guy?
Isn't he the wealthiest person on the planet?
Maybe wealth and power are not synonymous?
And to issue a statement that no list 'ever' existed.
Really.
When did the WH leave politics and enter into the 'fairy tale' business?
Just asking.
So know where you stand with President Trump. I don’t think he is on the list. He has never been on any of the flight logs to Epstein Island. No one has ever even hinted that he might be. None of the young girls who have come forward have ever talked about Trump… it has been Obama, Clinton’s, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Oprah to name a few. P Diddy is probably in there to.
I think there is more going on and this is not the end of the story’s. There is a reason P Diddy got off.
For what it's worth, there is this:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3894806/Woman-alleged-raped-Donald-Trump-13-Jeffrey-Epstein-sex-party-DROPS-case-casting-doubt-truth-claims.html
Give me a break … she came forward when he was running for office … another one just like “Dr” Ford with Kavannah. The left pays people to lie. Find something that has at least a little credibility.
But they’ve confirmed it now?
seems like it. but they can say what I want, I can think what I want. And I think it is fake. Words are cheap. We all know high heads would roll if all came to light. They know it too, and it are THEIR heads.
Maybe it seemed better to confirm memo than to admit lack of control once it got sent out🤔
that sounds more like it
They are bots.
Another error is your percentages add up to 110.5% — looking forward to the edit and correct ones!
I don't think that his percentages were meant to be additive, but were each weighed individually.
It seems to me like Polymarket...
or
Maybe there's a Venn diagram involved, lol.
That’s what I thought too
Exactly!
Jeff is busy scouring all the sources daily to get us a comprehensive set of facts. I’m sure it takes hours! Plus he has to write the newsletter. Give him a little grace and don’t nitpick something silly like faulty math.
It's odds. Not addition.
Got it, makes sense. My fault for commenting pre coffee!
Assuming all the options are mutually exclusive, and cover all possible outcomes (the last scenario effectively being “none of the above), the odds do still have to add up to 100%.
That’s how I read too
Love how Jeff is a bit approximate with stuff like that, & weekdays etc.!
I wondered about that, too! (I just reduced the numbers proportionally.)
I keep seeing that meme of laughing lizards... "And then we told them...."
What is this stupid spectacle hiding?
For the answers, one might want to ask Bibi.
As soon as he came to town, Epstein was deep sixed in a way that was designed to humiliate the general public, and then wow, we are sending more weapons to our Jewish friend in Ukraine!
I feel like we are living in the former USSR.
That's certainly a possibility. Although I think the records were moved, not destroyed, for they would be an absolute influence/blackmail goldmine.
BTW, the day before Iran was attacked by Israel, Iran announced they had captured an enormous batch of Mossad records.
I wonder if Epestein's files were among them?
I have a #5: GITMO has tribunals going on and the judgments will be forthcoming and will answer all the questions. Obama, the Clintons, Oprah, George Clooney, Tom Hanks, Bill Gates have been on every list I’ve seen and on the lips of victims whose have spoken out (most keep getting censored). One victim talked about Bill Gates and his experiments on victims at Epstein Island. It is pure evil.
https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1407001
It's blandly titled Final_Draft_E but it's there and you can download the pdf directly from DOJ.
That is not a government draft. Government rmployees don’t write drafts with leaderhead in the margins. When it goes to be released it will be printed on paper that already has the leadershead on it. I don’t know why this pdf is showing this way, but nothing about this says that it was done by a government employee. Anyone who would have worked on a draft would have been at least a GS-13 and would have experience with the format. This format is all wrong. I actually went to the DOJ website to see if they do anything different with their formatting than the military… and they don’t.
Absolutely correct. Spent much of my career in govt programs and proposals.
Yep.
Just searched: Epstein, Epstein memo, Epstein axios leak - & etc.
Nuthin’
Thanks.
Anyone here willing to take a prayer request? My son (Adam) could use some prayer today and tomorrow by “two or more gathered in my name”: He has been trying to get hired since February and hadn’t received a single “in person” interview after sending out several hundred resumes. (Ai seems to strip out white males or something because he has a masters and a 3.96 GPA and should have been hired before he even graduated a couple weeks ago.)
Tomorrow morning he has his first in person interview in TX, he’s flying out today. It’s with a really neat company that does simulation systems for pilots and would be perfect for what he is trained in (software engineering and also game design.) He’s really good at what he does but has understandably become very insecure with being liked and “chosen”. We could use some powerful prayer for God to calm his anxiety so they can truly see what he is capable of, and to prepare his heart if this isn’t the job God wants him to have.
I know there are far more serious matters across our nation needing prayer, and I almost didn’t want to ask, but we don’t really have anyone we know in person to ask for prayer - so I hope you will allow me this request here. Thank you 🙏
I’m blown away. I posted thinking maybe I’d get 5 or 6 likes and that combined with the one community member I have met in person would give me a powerful 6-7 to pray for him. That made it worth asking.
But I’m sitting here in tears because after only 30 minutes since posting there are already 81 likes. EIGHTY ONE PRAYERS! 😭 And the notifications keep coming. I couldn’t have imagined such support. God is hugging me through you. Thank you. I love this community so much. ❤️
I will keep everyone posted as to whatever God’s answer to these loving prayers is.
@Juju- we're all in this together, my friend.
@Dee- strange place to put this but YES!
@Dee- that's why I 'tag' people; so they know who Im replying to
Jehovah Jireh for your son and his new position!! GOD PROVIDES just in time--His timing is always perfect.
I think you are my favorite person on here. Your posts are insightful and kind. Something I aspire to. 😊
Well I haven’t always been kind. 😬 *gulp* I’ve used some significant snark and sarcasm against others who posted unkind words here, or were being divisive trying to pull us apart. But your compliment inspires and convicts me to do better. ❤️
Kindness is not being nice. It’s bigger than that. Sometimes being kind is calling out and pointing out things that need to be pointed out. It’s not a feeling, it’s love for another’s good. And sometimes that doesn’t feel good but you know it has to be done.
Sarcasm can sometimes get people’s attention and help them to listen. I haven’t seen evidence of anything untoward so rest easy! 😊
Well articulated!
JuJu can you post son’s name?
Adam
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But you remove the temptation. So there is that!
Snark truly in the best way possible. Sometimes snark can convict and correct in the gentlest way.
They truly are kind and humble!
The FB link worked Lisa. Thanks. (Can’t find the spot here where you posted it in order to reply sequentially, so this reply is out-of-order.)
Wouldn't it be something if the state you were searching for recently ends up being Texas. Stranger things have happened. Praying Adam lands his dream job after so much hard work.
Our children are so important and worth all of our prayers as are each of us. Please update us on Adam - continuing to lift him up.
You are very dear to us Juju!
291 likes as I'm reading it now. Thank you, brothers and sisters!
I’m in awe. If only y’all were privy to my inadequate and absolutely clumsy prayer on my porch this morning before posting. My last words after an hour of fits and starts were, “God I just don’t know how to pray for him, and I need help”. So I posted.
The C&C army is an amazing group of people, even in the smaller things - we care about each other on a personal level. Even as more serious national things are happening across our country, we don’t minimize each other’s hearts and personal needs in our own little place in it all. This is but a reflection of two things: the author Jeff Childers and his steadfast principles that have resonated with all of us, and the Word of God that so many here trust. Bam! The C&C Army.
To quote from one of Aretha's early songs (Are You Sure? (w/ The Ray Bryant Combo)), something to the effect of "you may not know how to pray, but He loves you when you try, so raise your voices high and the Lord will hear you!" 🙏 🥰
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=aretha+franklin%2C+%22are+you+sure%3F%22+song&t=brave&ia=videos&iax=videos&iai=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.youtube.com%2Fwatch%3Fv%3Dnn6e4s93pgo
Here ya' go. pure gospel soul.
Thanks for adding that link! And on that album, I really like the Tenor Sax on It Ain't Necessarily So, Who Needs You? and the melancholy All Night Long 💯
That’s an AMEN verse!
This brought tears to my eyes!! I’m so glad you posted today and even gladder (though not surprised!) about the wonderful response you’ve gotten here 🙏❤️
You nailed it! Greatest group on the web…
489 after me!
Your family’s story has me in tears. Literally. Praying.
Find our group on fb if you are there. CnC addicts. ❤️
Hey Lisa, I could not find a fb page on Cnc addicts. Would love to join.
Oops- its C&C Junkies. so close!! We all commiserate when Jeff is out or we talk more about the issues!
I may have to create a new Facebook account for this, or … toughen up and be willing to use my old account that I haven’t used in over 13 years. I experienced a lot of heartache in the past using it, having to see all that we were excluded from in other family and friend’s lives, so it just became easier emotionally to not be exposed to it. What we don’t know can’t hurt us.
But I would definitely enjoy such a C&C community like this one. Thanks for the referral. I’ll give it some thought.
I understand that. I mostly use for marketplace and grps. Hardly anything else.
Maybe a new acct for limited stuff
Just submitted request to join
I searched for C&C Junkies but just found the daily C&C post. Can a link be posted? (ARE FB links even possible?)
https://m.facebook.com/groups/512743197715335/?ref=share&mibextid=S66gvF
I think this works
I too have a son named Adam. Praying right now for your precious son.
That’s the C&C Army at work! More prayers for your son 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Your son will probably leave the interview as the CEO of the company😊😊😊
Isn't it wondrous the working of the Holy Spirit on the minds and hearts of Yeshua's followers!!
549 prayers at the moment. Best of luck to him!
I’m so humbled, truly. All I can do is send big, warm, digital hugs to everyone for their intercession of prayer.
Juju... every Adam in my life is the most lovable kind person... I love that name.
Wish him all the best.
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You got my prayers JuJu 🙏 ,I knew you would get tons of support. Good people deserve it 👏 👍
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Praying for our children is national security!!! Lord Jesus BLESS Adam, we ask you open doors that only you can open, but if not this …move mightily on his behalf, give him favor with you and with men. And as always thy will be done , as you know Adam best Lord 🙌🙌🙌🙏🙏🙏
May God fill your son with unshakable confidence in his every endeavor and put an employer in his path that sees his value, hires him, promotes, and prospers him. 🙏
Good job, mama. I can feel your love for your son because when his heart aches or stomach quivers, you feel it deeply.
Thank you God for supporting this bright young man as he transitions into adulthood. ❤️
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So well-offered!
Joining you in Prayer for the Peace of God to overwhelm your son and for His will to be made apparent. His timing is perfect but the waiting is hard. Please let us know how everything goes.
I'm joining in as well.
Adam will be in my thoughts and prayers and I wish him all and much success in landing this job and any and all of his future endeavors.
Stay the course Adam.
Same
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Better than reporting- go to the page and block htr.
Thank you for giving us the opportunity to pray for a worthy goal. 🙏🏻
AMEN!
This has been an ongoing problem for my three in Illinois! Seriously. Same! 😭 Depressing for everyone. We are provided for still, by God's mercy. Prayers appreciated as I pray for yours. ❤️
🙏 Adding Rambler’s three to my request.
Praying for them also!!! 🙏🙏🙏
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Add my two to the request. Both my daughter and SIL, just completed their PhD's, BioMathematics and Marine Science. Neither have any interviews on the horizon. A lot of applying, few interviews, zero propects. Soon, they will be moving in with me, along with my 17 month old granddaughter. I like that part but they had dreams that are not coming to fruition like they had hoped. Be still and know he is God. Thanks everyone.
Will do, Robin 🙏 It’s amazing the number of stories like yours and ours and everyone else here. What indeed is going on in our country when qualified people who are hard workers can’t get jobs?
We also had Adam move home with us last week to provide a stress free environment for him, (he was living with three other guys that drank and smoked weed daily and it started to interfere with his own life.) I also can tend to managing his diet, which will help his mental health and disabilities, while he continues his job search, and saves his money from his part time job.
Praying for them also!! 🙏
Lord, bless these three young people! Open up endeavors that honor You and lead them to be close to You so that they may love You. Amen
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RJ, praying for your precious three kids! Lord, You know RJ's three kids, their strengths and weaknesses, their skills and abilities. We humbly ask that You would provide employment for each one, in keeping with all those factors so that they may excel in whatever direction You lead them. You are the God Who provides and we thank You for Your provisions every day. Amen.
Mrs. "the Knife"
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Praying
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Thank you.
Father we ask for the 3 sons of “RJ Rambler” to know You and Your word, be filled with Your Spirit, guided by Your righteous right hand and set upon high. We know You have a plan for them. Lead them to the career You know will best serve them and Your kingdom.
We thank you and pray in Jesus name, Amen
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I have lived that pain personally and pray for your children’s incredible success!
The LORD bless you and keep you, make His face shine upon you and be gracious to you. The LORD turn his face toward you and give you peace. Amen
LORD no prayer is too small for you. We lift up Adam and pray that you will guide and direct his thoughts and prepare him for his interview. If this is just a steppingstone for something bigger for him, let that be perfectly clear to him. Give him confidence and encourage him, remove any anxious thoughts from his mind and fill it with Your promises. I pray the employer sees something special in Adam that would make him a perfect fit for their company. If not, fill him with your peace and continue to guide him along the best path for his life. In Jesus name. Amen
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Beautiful.
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I will pray!
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Praying for Adam. May Peace & confidence surround him like a blanket. Blessings & prayers. 🙏🙏🙏
I will join you, and at this time I would like to encourage you to seek out a church of true believers who will also join with you in prayer for all your needs. They do exist! I will add the request that a believing church close to you will reveal itself soon.
THIS!!! This is more important than anything. Thank you for this ❤️
We are meant to be in community. We cannot do this life alone, but it can be so hard to find a solid church. One that may be worth driving an hour to. So hard. Pray for God to put genuine mature believers in your pathway.
I'm on board, so glad you have shared this with us.
Happy to pray for a happy result 🙏🙏.
Praying for your son, Juju!! May God be with him during his interview and guide him to what His plan is for your son 🙏🙏🙏
Yes Juju I’d be happy to pray for Adam. Praying that the Lord will make a way for him. ♥️
One option to look into is SCADA engineer. It can translate over from a software engineering job. Inductive Ignition university is free and it's up and coming. Utilities all over the country are always looking for SCADA engineers.
We've also had a position open in Dallas for almost 2 years because we can't find anyone, but it's more of a Cyber focus but it's a decent job that pays well.
Praying God's favor and the Holy Spirit of Fire reign down upon Adam and empower him as well
Nothing is more serious than the welfare of our children, JuJu - praying for YOUR ADAM right now!
I listened to the White House press briefing yesterday and Peter Doocey pressed the question multiple times about this weird “Epstein memo” - Leavitt was uncharacteristically cagey and also totally missed her simplest off-ramp (“you’ll need to ask Pam Bondi what she meant by ‘I have it on my desk’”). You could hear some incredulity in Doocey’s voice.
However, I think there’s probably a very simple explanation: too many Republican legislators and governors are on the list. It would decimate the forward momentum of America First to lose so many (or even one or two) Republicans desperately needed to further the Trump agenda. (Remember, the Democrats won’t necessarily lose any voters if they are on the List, their voters wish they were too. But Republican voters would care and there’s no guarantee they’d get another Republican soon enough to matter, if they primaried multiple current legislators.) I think the Admin is probably looking at the big picture, for better or worse.
That could very well be true, but it's absolutely a despicable reason, to avoid releasing the information because people would want to avoid voting for child rapists??!! I don't give a good god damn what letter some politician has in front of their name, if they are a child rapist they need to rot in jail, and if someone is covering up that fact so that their party can stay in power, then they are absolutely complicit criminals as well, and not fit to hold public office!
THIS DISHONESTY and Coy, nonsensical WEAK EXCUSE-MAKING should destroy a significant level of Team Trump's support and erase any momentum for the 2026 Elections. MANY in MAGA will view this with CORRECT perspective, and like that turd Robert DeNiro simply say "F-k Trump". This Betrayal of America via MISINFORMATION and yet ANOTHER "Nothing to See Here after all!" will be met with-- screw this... we supported the uprooting of the CORRUPTED system and exposing ALL the dirt--everyone's dirt. Now it's just more concealment and lame-dick Lawyerspeak???? COUNT ME OUT, take your depraved maniacal mainstream Deepstate Swamp Culture and ENJOY ALL IT GIVES YOU---Fake Dossiers, maligning, Backstabbing, Leaks, Lawfare, and assassinations attempts, ALL of IT and screw off. Was Trump 2.0 set up by FBI and Biden ahead of this so that they'd have Nothing to show us? FINE, then dig into that and disclose it ALL, but to run cover for our domestic depraved enemies at this point and then ask us to move along Doesn't work and shows that this administration is all bluster and bullshit when it really comes down to who's running the show and pulling the strings even after unleashing Patel and Bongino. Maybe Matt Gates really was the third rail they didn't want to touch this case??? WTF DJT? Unacceptable MFers OWE us more than this pile of crap
Would you have preferred Harris/Waltz? Would you prefer communism, because that’s what you’ll get with the Demonrats?
When do we stop playing the "My crook is better than your crook" game?
If you don’t see what we have now as better than the alternative, I certainly can’t help you.
Because sometimes we just have to choose the lesser of two evils. Don’t ever believe that anyone got elected to any political office without some kind of corruption.
That's the attitude/belief that keeps you in the Matrix.
Break free sometime, you'll love it.
The “lesser of two evils” argument is total BS, and total dysfunctional thinking.
what a question.... You KNOW the answer of course--but that does NOT EXCUSE this snow job on this particular issue; HE made MAGA what it is yet he can not get a pass on this issue---this was ginned up as a reason to VOTE them in... handle it like it NEVER EXISTED and the whole thing FAILS and collapses into dust
Hysteria yields nothing but hypocrisy and pain.
yes, focusing on what we CAN control and influence out in flyover country is all we little guys can do. Certainly if we were in the Cesspool of D.C. we'd be forced to heel and muzzle ourselves as Bongino and the rest have been. i was thinking they'd get to the meat of the matter in 2026 but apparently sweeping it under the rug now to "settle" the matter so it's in the rearview mirror for everyone is the strategy. Outlandish Rightwing Conspiracy Kooks can't be trusted media nd Dems will say again...just like The Clinton Files, WACO-OKC, Vince Foster. Ken Starr Report, Sandy Berger, and Hillary's 33,000 emails... And had the Clinton Regime been held to account. in 1998 or 2000, would we be better or worse off?
I do agree. Of course you don’t but it does not excise blatantly lying now.
And not just communism, but far worse perversion that would never be investigated. Out of the frying pan and into the fire? Throw the baby out with the bath water?
yes of course, but you're just fine with this anemic handling of this? It's not like we the people ever had any say in it...these guys, "OUR GUYS" made a stink over this issue and now they tell us "never mind, we were played by hysteria and disinformation, forget we ever said anything"
Fog of war. Patience is called for and use of logic, not fly off the handle hysteria.
we are always being played. Little grasshopper (willing spirit) just hasn't awakened to it yet.
This is a good video - location data found by Wired magazine. They found the johns and/or victims.
https://www.brasscheck.com/video/the-epstein-photos-youll-never-see-are-here/
There’s a certain kind of person that uses these weak arguments. A person that can’t face the idea that things are more f**ked up than they ever imagined. These are the people who just woke up during The Scamdemic years.
Communism with one, Technocracy with the other 🤷
That is NOT what “WP William” is saying….there is no “lesser of two evils” kind of thinking going in this comment … total conjecture on your part.
I voted MAGA since 2016. I can't follow where Trump is going. I'm out. Think how survivors of the Epstein perverts must feel right now.
I would wait to see how this shakes out. It seems like there is more here than meets the eye.
So you say. But we can’t know if that’s true or if you just hope to take down Trump. This is the internet. Anybody can be other than what they claim.
Line from A Few Good Men Comes to mind, “You can’t handle the truth”. Even the victims don’t want to utter their tormentors’ name out loud for fear of revenge. So long as the traffickers are being stopped and victims released I’m going to have to be satisfied that SOMETHING is being done.
ok so we're enabling or turning a blind eye to the rapists but curbing robbers---hey that's great we have to have some satisfaction thrown to us i agree. Germany severely reduced petty crime by 1938, factories were humming, migration was orderly, Weimar licentiousness and all manner of weak-minded liberalism was in the dustbin, Commie street agitators were where they belonged. I would have preferred stonewalled silence and inaction to a dogcrap sandwich, i mean where's the 4D Chess going on with this??? If they're baiting or setting a trap or whatever great but why even say anything at all? there's really no obligation to have moved this direction. Like proclaiming "Release of the Kraken!" only to later meekly mutter that you were fooled or mistaken or were hyping the story to flush out the villains.
WELL!! Tell us how you REALLY feel
I'll keep doing my own thing as i have since 1995, never trust what any of these nuts ever say, and forge on. It is never good to hang anything on what "leadership" ever says or promises.
There’s a certain kind of person that uses these weak arguments. A person that can’t face the idea that things are more f**ked up than they ever imagined. These are the people who “just woke up” during The Scamdemic years.
yes, blinders on, HOPING and wishing and ever waiting, head down, eyes averted, silent and tasked with busyness....polishing the deck chairs on the deck of the Titanic and fluffing the pillows (someone more important will actually ARRANGE them). This is myself..i understand that the Captain and his corporate bosses were behind the human error of the (unforeseen?) collision with an iceberg...pondering even that there's even some sinister elements in the whole thing with insurance and contracts and corners cut and celebrity passengers aboard (whispers and gossip surely). Nevertheless, here i am diligently busy, unaware of the gory details of damages and certain doom far below decks, but at full stop, only partially aware, a bit frustrated, and oh so very busy with busyness possessing no real power to act in any way with definiteness, clarity, and insight for success.
Surprised but not astounded. Primarily disappointed in the amateur look and approach as i feel it gives credence and power to our real enemies. Mostly, feel required to shrug it off, not beg for an explanation or reasonable excuse. Then be resolved to forge onward despite the "clumsiness" (at the top) and work to Make Colorado Less Democratically-Progressively-Socialist-Elitist Again. How about you? I'm honestly asking as this substack following of C.&C. are normal decent reasonable people
But they will release it after mid-terms if this is true. We HAVE to win the mid-terms.
Let’s try to trust the process
At this point I appreciate Jeff’s consistent guidance to be steady. We’ve seen so many attacks that we’re guaranteed “kill shots” (politically) and yet the end results are so different.
Remember, for fellow Christians, that God is the one who sets up rulers, and we are admonished to pray for our leaders. Trust God’s plan, and that he is guiding POTUS through some difficult circumstances.
Amen Robert
Sorry, I'm just done with that. It's absolutely ridiculous and inexcusable to try to get child predators elected to run the country because they're on the very good, best ever red team, completely different from the terrible awful very bad blue guys. I just don't buy it.
I think that's correct.
Burn it all down if that's what we're about now.
I don’t think we would enjoy the results very much if we burned it all down. This is the country we all have to live in.
Everyone needs to take a deep breath and stop being emotion driven.
Too many on here with questionable motives.
Well said… CTFD….make that acronym what you will…
I have to say it does make one wonder if even Trump was on it. I think I heard Elon say he was. dont remember. But one must wonder at this point.
Interesting timing for Elon to have said that. Alex Jones just came out today and said he thinks its 1 of two possible things. 1. The evidence exposes some awful things about Trump or 2. Trump is using the blackmail evidence to control foreign leaders and others and how he got NATO to pay and got the BBB passed. That is Alex Jones' speculation. I do remember a video in Trump's first term where someone said when he did his world tour when he first became President he informed all the leaders of what he had on them and that was how he controlled foreign affairs to get done what he needed to do. Again all someone's speculation. Like Jeff says, lets wait and see???
Hmmm…this actually makes sense how the leaders just work with him all the time. I don’t like it though, as it is blackmail. For a good cause though I suppose…
I may have misled. It was not just recent. It was maybe 6 mos ago in a spat Elon said it I believe. After election and before all this…
^THIS
We can’t cut spending, eliminate agencies, release the Epstein files, etc. etc. because we have to win the 2026 midterms.
And then, it will be we can’t cut spending, eliminate agencies, release the Epstein files, etc. etc. because we have to win the 2028 election.
Rinse and repeat, ad infinitum. How long are people going to fall for this?
Excellent observation, unfortunately. I know your last question was meant to be rhetorical but it deserves an answer. Come to think of it, you did answer it, in the sentence right before your question.
LOLOLOL how many years have you been telling yourself that? is there any expiration date? or is it just much easier to keep believing the ever more ridiculous lies?
OK so they did the math and figured Dems would win Senate and House in 2026, stall out any SCOTUS replacements nominated in 27-28, this is just the chemotherapy and radiation required for MAGA to survive long enough to take out the real bad guys...then we have 2028 we'll have to wait on...if our no one is above the Law Congress and States are this Fking SICK then they deserve wholesale radical replacement--not suspended or dissolved not 10 years of trials and legal motions. Team huddle should be able to pull out ALL of the Bad Seed at every level in some form or fashion with planning and bold action. This "Screw the Voters, this is above them and they're idiots who'll vote how we tell them anyway" attitude doesn't cut it. So 70% of Congress is arrested, 80% of Governors, 40% of state legislators....we can survive that and put ANYONE of average IQ in those positions of power and improve things at same time. One could even argue that a Corrupt Congress can pass NO legally binding legislation so where does that leave us?
Bahahaha
I agree. Anybody who harms children, elderly, and animals deserves harsher judgement. There is no reason in my mind to even begin to contemplate harming these innocents, let alone actually choose to do it. It takes a special kind of deprived and sick mind that I’m not sure can be rehabbed. Once you prey on the vulnerable I think that’s the lowest you can sink and the hardest to rehab from…
I somewhat agree with your post. I don’t believe in harming animals but they are nowhere near on the same plane as children
I agree. Humans are on whole other plane of existence and worth than animals, however much I dearly love them. Our elders and children are treasures I would choose over any animal.
I put them in the same sentence as elderly and children as animals are as vulnerable and as abused as elderly and children, if not more so. Humans will always dominate animals and so we have an enormous responsibility to treat them well and respectfully use them for our good as God intended. We need some of them for food, and they were put here for that purpose, but the life before that should be blissful and free of as much fear as possible. I grew up on a farm and know the realities of what animals are for, but they should never be abused. There is never a time where that is okay. Hopefully that clarifies!
They had to blackmail Congress to pass the BBB. Now we can hide the Epstein case for now, until the next BBB or War with Iran.
What ever happened to the actor who lived next door to Epstein, who could blow the whistle, Gene Hackman and wife died suddenly? Must have been Monkeypox.
Jeff mentioned 17 year olds. Seventeen year olds, a few generations ago could very easily be married and have children already. And were they physically forced to have sex, or were they beguiled by the wealth and power that they were moving in and complicit?
I have a different concept of a ‘child rapist’ than that of a powerful wealthy man seducing and using a young woman.
Neither is right or good in anyway, but there’s a big difference between the rape of an infant, a toddler or a young child and consensual sexual intercourse with a 17 year old.
Who would you rather have in charge, sodomites who anally rape babies, or stupid rich men trying to prove their virility and desirability with 17 year olds girls?
The Demonrats are the first, some Republicans may be the second.
Wow, funny how it's always "but the other guys are worse" even when we're talking about child rape, you literally have the balls to say "but the other guys rape younger kids." You guys are so pathetic to defend this. If it was Biden you would be rightfully demanding justice, but because your guy got in, move along, nothing to see here!
Some of the other guys actually rape babies, for which they should get the death penalty.
Obviously I think raping babies is a horrible crime, and should be punished with the death penalty. I also think Epstein's clients have likely done things that deserve the death penalty, but of course if Republicans are involved in covering something up, it must be fine, nothing to see here.
You’re putting forth massive amounts of smoke for which there may or may not be actual fire.
I agree with this. Human females can be sexually mature
at 15 years of age or younger. But in the US an 18 year old boy can be
charged with 'raping' his 17 year old girlfriend in a completely
consensual relationship. In many cultures a 15 year old girl might be married
and having children already. 18 is just a number, every situation is complicated.
The big distinction in my mind is that some of the clients may not have realized a 16 or 17 year old was a minor. TRUE ignorance should be somewhat mitigating.
Good point. There are men out there labeled as sex offenders because of 16 year old girls claiming to be older, then getting mad and accusing them of rape.
So would you say that all people who attended WEF meetings at Davos are globalists? It would seem that a list of people who visited Epstein island would include people who were curious, but who had no knowledge of prostitution or child abuse? (Bill Clinton? Not.) What about the business people who wanted to party with the powerful? The island was a destination to mingle with the wealthy, and powerful. If your name is on the list, you will automatically be seen as guilty until proven innocent. What happens after the list?
Maybe instead of a client list we should start with a list of the people who set up the whole scheme for Epstein, the people working with him to blackmail particular influential people.
I think the very term "client list" is misleading… how about passenger list for the airplane flights? And hotel guests for the island list? And can we talk about the two autopsies? As much as I want to see justice (hangings in the public square… 'he’s well hung'!) - obviously that’s not happening yet. I’m going to keep watching the movie… as a Trumper.
Exactly!
The real evidence is the VIDEOS of Bills Gates and Clinton among many others committing statutory rape.
THE VIDEOS
The "tens of thousands" of videos with "little kids" that Bondi referred to:
https://patrick.net/post/1380690/2024-01-03-epstein-list-delayed?start=407#comment-2187020
When people say "the list" tell them they are being misdirected away from the VIDEO EVIDENCE.
It's a good question. All people attending Davos at the very minimum were complicit in Globalism. And if one had any business of size, one almost has to be complicit to some extent or else be crushed by the state.
And if the state is so big and powerful that it can compel owners of business against their wills to what they otherwise would not do, then what are we?
This is precisely what makes the doctors who refused to go along with Covid Tyranny heros.
Dave, you run your own inquisition like this all the time? Where is your guillotine? You sound like a crazed member of Antifa. Hehehe. The loons have landed on the lake. Hehehe!!!! Oh, you are a perfect example of a typical Dem.
We need to find out who is guilty of sex crimes against children. That seems clear. I'm talking about the client list, the list of people who participated in the abuse of minors. Not the list of people who met Jeffrey Epstein. That's what we want to see.
I agree. The world could use a general house cleaning of miscreants, especially the people who hold positions of power. Morals in high office matter.
I can just see the reception desk at Epstein Island
"Shall we register you in the pedofile book, or the ordinary billionaire book"?
Itvwas a blackmail operation for powerful people. I'm sure they kept a list and tapes, but far too many people in our government are on that list for us to ever see it.
Truth
How old were these ‘children’? These appear to have been young women. Our culture grooms young women to be sex objects.
There’s plenty of horror stories about sexual abuse of children, but I didn’t see that in the Epstein case.
Yeah, I'm not seeing it either. I shouldn't admit it, but I had PLENTY of sex when I was 17 and cute, and the more powerful the man, the greater the appeal.
I mean, do we have evidence that they were bringing in ACTUAL CHILDREN? Like 10, 12 years old?
I think they do… yes 10 or 12. This isn’t informed consent.
I’ve not heard evidence in regards to younger children. I do believe there are truly heinous crimes being committed with children, but I don’t know that was happening on Epstein’s island.
I'm sorry to hear of your abuse. You didn't deserve that and it wasn't right for you to be taken advantage of and raped.
Even so, no matter the age, if there is rape involved, that’s a serious thing. I get what you’re saying, but it’s still men forcing females into sex.
There are plenty of news stories of old women being raped, as well as infants. Both are just inexplicably evil. Certainly, age doesn’t matter.
But there’s a difference between being seduced and feeling used and being over powered and physically forced to submit.
Neither is good or okay, but there’s degrees of difference in the level of evil and opportunities to resist.
So Epstein did nothing wrong. What a clown you are.
That’s not what I said and you certainly know it.
So did I miss something? Did anyone say there was a special list of pedophiles?
No, but the implication was there… I’m still waiting for the satanists to be outted… including John Brennan and the man with the creepy eyebrows (he died) inside our military…
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Angelo_Aquino
even the Exotic Animal Farm bust in Bandon reaches high levels of shadiness. Most of these "farm busts" include kiddie porn and snuff films on their computers.
https://www.opb.org/article/2025/05/27/state-and-local-law-enforcement-seize-hundreds-of-animals-during-search-of-southern-oregon-safari-park/
I think we need to pray and trust God.
Hehehe. It’s Oregon. What animal can’t be treated or moved? We move animals, even houses, everywhere else. Tiny Kotex ie Tina Kotek wants to euthanize “useless” people the same way.
I would hope, or rather, I wish I had hope that the DOJ would be interested in investigating which of Epstein's rich and powerful friends did or were likely to have participated in his sex trafficking ring, and prosecuting those who did. It seems they are not, however, so no, there is not any special list of pedophiles. All the pedophiles are safe in their positions of power over us all.
We saw how Trump was found “guilty” for a dressing room incident? A dressing room? Rape? Ya right. And you are telling me we need to forge ahead no matter who is harmed?
Please don’t use the Lord’s name in vain. There is nothing in this world happening that makes it ok.
Agreed.
Or this maybe an opportunity to purge the Republican Party of RINO/Perverts. The timing of the purge is critical with the 2026 mid terms approaching. This also could be an opportunity to use Epstein blackmail against prominent Democrats, to obliterate their Global Communist agenda.
Be interesting how many choose not to rerun... watch that space
I think that will be the “Tell” that the Epstein Blackmail Operation (if there is one) is working.
I suspect his client list also contained the names of Republicans.
Entrapping Dems seems too easy a task and what real shame would there be anyway unless with UNDER 17 types and what globalist nonsense wouldn't they promote anyway???. The centrists and rightists may be a target for control and shame, but the influential, apolitical, wealthy types would have a bullseye on them for Mr. Epstein's bosses wouldn't they?
I sincerely hope that is the plan in play
I vote for option 3 plus some behind the scenes event that has rattled everyone. If they would just say "the info here is too politically valuable to reveal" people would howl and get over it. This handling of things is way too clumsy. 🤔🤔🤔
I’m on that track, but I’m leaning more towards ‘there are people on the list who are going to be investigated/charged for far worse than what they did on Epstein island.’
It’s like a guy undercover in a cartel. He sees illegal things every day, but he’s waiting to put it all together so he can arrest the whole group or bring down a network. I’m trying to be patient, I think here is more to the story.
That’s a great theory actually, that possibly there’s even worse crimes that will carry harsher penalties and the DOJ wants to get them on those to ensure they indeed get the harshest possible punishments overall. Being involved in child trafficking may prevent your re-election, but there could be a LOT of legal maneuvers to get off with less penalties. If they wait and get them on crimes with stiffer sentences they can assure that they pay the full price of the Epstein involvement too. Hmmmm
It’s not my theory, I heard Walter Kirn mention it on America Today. But I thought it made a lot of sense too.
Exactly Pat. Say just that; this is not rocket science.
Too bad Patel and Bongino had to look us square in the (camera) eye and say JE killed himself. They lied and they know we know they lied.
Better to have said nothing than sell out.
How can the administration move forward as they focus on a dead guy from the past? Epstein is dead. His cohort is in prison. How about Pee Diddy getting away with child abuse and trafficking?
I really hated that. He never should have been found not guilty on the racketeering charges.
Agreed, Pat.
It seems coordinated with Musk’s 3rd party formation.
That was my first thought when I heard about the America party. Something weird going on there.
The America Party - launched by the Harem-Meister Musk.
"Something weird going on there" indeed.
Starting to think Musks 3rd party is just the replacement for The criminal Act Blue NGO / “Non-Profit” funded DNC…. The powers that be MUST maintain at least a two party system to keep us divided…. Otherwise the Govt actually would represent the people.
Agreed. Especially with the main people involved.
A 3rd party means no clear majority elected president.
Example: Clinton
Thanks, Perot
It does
AND…. not a single utterance about Ghislaine Maxwell charged and convicted for what? She’s in jail for 20 years for crimes directly connected to what is now all lies? Nothing to see here? Never happened!?!?!? What absolute BS… Bongino saying nothing, going along with the silencing of Bondi and Kash is an unacceptable departure from the truth giant his reputation has garnered him… how can we trust any of them anymore!? This whole debacle may indeed destroy the entire MAGA movement… DT ran on transparency in DC, destroying the deep state and revealing the Epstein files… this house of cards is crumbling with the sheer weight of all the coordinated calculated LIES!!!!
That thought crossed my mind whole reading as well
I wonder if any of her docs/interviews could be FOIAed to shed more light on the subject.
Follow Tom Fitton of Judicial Watch. He's been on X shouting from the rooftops asking why Bondi's DOJ is stymying FOIA requests about Biden-era activities that Judicial Watch has been investigating. She has done nothing to remove/replace the Deep State goons on her own staff who are hiding information from the American public. This latest episode is but the most glaring and inexcusable example.
its almost as if its all the same shitshow . .. . no matter what the figurehead looks like
I do already, thank you!
Ghislaine was convicted of trafficking for Epstein himself, procuring young women for HIM. No mention of procuring young women for clients.
He mentioned the Epstein saga but never Campaigned on that per se.
Trying to send a document of his 20 Promises to the American People but Substack isn’t cooperating.
Agenda 47
20 Promises to the American People:
SEAL THE BORDER, AND STOP THE MIGRANT INVASION
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CARRY OUT THE LARGEST DEPORTATION OPERATION IN AMERICAN HISTORY
END INFLATION, AND MAKE AMERICA AFFORDABLE AGAIN
MAKE AMERICA THE DOMINANT ENERGY PRODUCER IN THE WORLD, BY FAR!
STOP OUTSOURCING, AND TURN THE UNITED STATES INTO A MANUFACTURING SUPERPOWER
LARGE TAX CUTS FOR WORKERS, AND NO TAX ON TIPS!
DEFEND OUR CONSTITUTION, OUR BILL OF RIGHTS, AND OUR FUNDAMENTAL FREEDOMS, INCLUDING FREEDOM OF SPEECH, FREEDOM OF RELIGION, AND THE RIGHT TO KEEP AND BEAR ARMS
PREVENT WORLD WAR THREE, RESTORE PEACE IN EUROPE AND IN THE MIDDLE EAST, AND BUILD A GREAT IRON DOME MISSILE DEFENSE SHIELD OVER OUR ENTIRE COUNTRY - ALL MADE IN AMERICA
END THE WEAPONIZATION OF GOVERNMENT AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE
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STOP THE MIGRANT CRIME EPIDEMIC, DEMOLISH THE FOREIGN DRUG CARTELS, CRUSH GANG VIOLENCE, AND LOCK UP VIOLENT OFFENDERS
REBUILD OUR CITIES, INCLUDING WASHINGTON DC, MAKING THEM SAFE, CLEAN, AND BEAUTIFUL AGAIN.
STRENGTHEN AND MODERNIZE OUR MILITARY, MAKING IT, WITHOUT QUESTION, THE STRONGEST AND MOST POWERFUL IN THE WORLD
KEEP THE U.S. DOLLAR AS THE WORLD'S RESERVE CURRENCY
FIGHT FOR AND PROTECT SOCIAL SECURITY AND MEDICARE WITH NO CUTS, INCLUDING NO CHANGES TO THE RETIREMENT AGE
CANCEL THE ELECTRIC VEHICLE MANDATE AND CUT COSTLY AND BURDENSOME REGULATIONS
CUT FEDERAL FUNDING FOR ANY SCHOOL PUSHING CRITICAL RACE THEORY, RADICAL GENDER IDEOLOGY, AND OTHER INAPPROPRIATE RACIAL, SEXUAL, OR POLITICAL CONTENT ON OUR CHILDREN
KEEP MEN OUT OF WOMEN'S SPORTS
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DEPORT PRO-HAMAS RADICALS AND MAKE OUR COLLEGE CAMPUSES SAFE AND PATRIOTIC AGAIN
SECURE OUR ELECTIONS, INCLUDING SAME DAY VOTING, VOTER IDENTIFICATION, PAPER BALLOTS, AND PROOF OF CITIZENSHIP
UNITE OUR COUNTRY BY BRINGING IT TO NEW AND RECORD LEVELS OF SUCCESS
Her lawyers need to appeal her conviction. The people behind this ‘memo’ don’t get to have it both ways. What exactly is GM guilty of?
Could be.
Excellent Tucker interview with Saagar Enjeti just dropped on all things Epstein. Despite Saagar's unusual name, he's a true-blue American who gets it and is an encyclopedia regarding the whole Epstein mess.
He covers it all, including the obvious Israel/Mossad connection that so many are afraid to touch (including the timing of Netanyahu's visit).
https://x.com/TuckerCarlson/status/1942569366832161139
Key quote, "The released Epstein memo is not for you or me as they know no one will believe it. It is a signal to all of those involved that the US government will do whatever it takes to cover this up."
Yes and out of all the people to nominate Trump for the Nobel Peace Prize, it was Netanyahu....
There was someone from India who did as well
Good link to Tucker interview with Saagar. Long interview but well worth it.
I haven't had time to watch it yet, but will put that on the list.
I call bs on the theory - because NON-PEDOPHILE REPUBLICANS can fill the positions quite easily. We HATE RINOS - and would vote for any good candidate - especially knowing that Trump had the balls to clean house.
I hear you. I don’t like this theory myself (despite presenting it). But while Republicans *may* be able to “easily” fill the seats of those primaried it may not be fast enough to keep up Trump’s current speed. It could mean delay on a grand scale. I hope this isn’t the end of taking down any and all who have broken the law and hurt children and others but I still trust Trump, the only leader we have had in our lifetime who has effectively kneecapped the deep state.
I think it's premature to say he "kneecapped the deep state" precisely because of this controversy. Until we get something more substantial than "nothing to see here, folks" I will assume the deep state is still in control and that DJT may just be another psyop. Keep in mind we've also been kept in the dark about Butler for the past 6 months.
I don't think many of the current roster of persons in Congress are going to be in their seats by the next election.
But there are probably at least an equal number of democrat legislators and governors on the list. I say get them all, regardless of party or position.
Honesty is the best policy. It is hard to cover lies long term and these kinds of sins with Epstein are egregious so the truth needs to come out and let the chips fall where they may.
That's as good a take as any! Once again, I am reminded that these are the latter days of the Roman - uh, American - Empire.
I wasn't going to comment further but I can't resist. As some others have alluded to here, the US is the world's largest consumer of the trafficking and 'consumption' of children to satisfy the sexual appetites of our elite rulers, both in politics and business. Child trafficking is the cartels' biggest profit center. I'm sure that if the truth were known, we would all be shocked at the pervasiveness of child sexual exploitation inside the halls of Washington DC. However, this total perverse corruption of morality is not limited to the Beltway but infects the entire elite strata of society all the way to the West Coast Silicon Valley elites. There is no truer maxim than the statement, "the love of money is the root of all evil" and from this root springs all manner of evil.
Now my point is this. How can such a society filled with such corruption continue to exist without incurring the wrath of God unto destruction? I don't have an answer. We have all seen the fall of similar cultures who were destroyed by their perversions as the judgement of God: Pompeii, the Roman Empire, the Greek city-states, Nineveh, Sodom and Gomorrah and up to and including the German Nazi culture. The list is endless. God is long-suffering in His mercy but there does come a point where He says, "Enough is enough! You have filled up your cup of judgement. Now drink it."
Epstein may be The Test. Will America confront this perverse sin, expose it and repent? Will America bring accountability to those who practice this perversion that is an affront to the very image of God? That would be the beginning of repentance. OR... will America turn their eyes from this sin and deny accountability thus earning the wrath of God in judgement? Our fate may hang in the balance.
You said much of what is on my mind P Phil. I formulated a comment but refrained from from writing it down. Too early, not enough information, which we may never see or know.
The data points I gathered thus far is the body language of the three main players, Patel Bongino and Levitt, current and past, in discussing this topic. It appears to me these three are uncomfortable lying and it shows. The lack of Levitt's prominent cross neckless is telling, I doubt it was a wardrobe oversight. However she needs that cross now more than ever, we all do.
I'll (attempt) to be patient on this topic, not easy when I'm being lied to and the lives of Epsteins' victims are at stake. Perhaps Trump's shout out "we love you God" was more of a tell than we know.
The press sec can take the decoration off or hide it but it changes nothing. Did she think her necklace would burst into flames because she publicly lied? That is not Jesus’ way and she knows better. God sees everything.
I believe she left it off as a non-verbal signal/statement.
One reason for the Epstein Cover-up is Israel. Because the one thing which the public cannot be allow to see is a direct Israeli government involvement in things like 911 and the Epstein black mail ring engaged in by Israel for the sake of political control and dominance over the countries of the Western World.
That is, Mossad and the State of Israel are not our friend. They are a millstone around the neck which threatens to destroy America, dragging her down into the mud. And there is enough material in this Tucker interview supportive of the point.
https://rumble.com/v6voch3-scott-horton-coups-wmds-and-cia-a-deep-dive-into-what-led-to-the-usisraeli-.html?e9s=src_v1_clr%2Csrc_v1_ucp_a
"...If, as many believe, it implicates powerful top political figures —including the Royal Family and Israeli power-brokers— including here in the U.S..."
There is absolutely no question that the Royal Family and the Israeli power brokers are included! None. Trump's war with the NeoCons MUST necessarily include the British empire elites and Netanyahu's war-mongering NeoCons. The Israeli lobbby AIPAC is probably the single most influential "lobby" in Washington DC to the point that they actually control everything Congress does in regards to Israel and the Middle East and have never hesitated to use child sexual exploitation as a means to control.
Jeff Childers' take on the Epstein files is brilliant and on-target! More is coming. The prophecies of Jonah and Nahum concerning Nineveh would be appropriate subjects in this regard to occupy many a sermon rather than the constant stream of "sermons" in support of Israel as the "chosen people" justifying the endless carnage being carried out in the Middle East all in the name of a speculative "rapture and Second Coming" that has yet to happen in 2,000 years.
Will America turn from sin?
If we all did, then there would be change. However, we are destroying ourselves with self servitude and people won't give up comfort or self sacrifice unless by force.
They have destroyed the minds of children and men with wicked temptations, sorcery, pharmakeia, and sexual and other immorality.
At least half of us believe abortion is a right, porn is ok, and injecting our children with toxic chemicals protect them.
How did we become so ignorant and so far from God?
It's a process and it started a long time ago. The Old Testament is a commentary on this process. As history demonstrates, such societies as you describe are brought back to reality by hard times and sometimes by complete collapse, sometimes suddenly such as in the collapse of the USSR and sometimes by extended periods of decay and collapse such as the Roman empire. Always this is God's judgement on history writ large.
@Daverkb pointed out to me that today things happen much faster than in the past. Something I hadn't thought of before. My response is "We better buckle up."
To answer your question though, the answer must come from the church militant, the body of Christ on earth. Possessed of the Holy Spirit against which no evil spirit can prevail and commanded by Christ, the King of kings, who now sits on His throne at the right hand of the Father, the American church must awaken and once again prophetically speak God's law to all of society, most especially government. As Childers pointed out today, for 70 years the church has been silenced under the heel of the State and has been good for nothing but to be trodden under foot. (Does that remind you of a Scripture?) The body of Christ must repent of our dereliction of duty to our King and once again boldly proclaim the law of God as the ONLY standard for culture and society. The church must find her voice once again.
It is no coincidence that the medical murder of children through abortion was subsequently legalized after the church was silenced by the State. Since then the church has been pre-occupied with fantasies about the Great Escape Rapture, the end of the world and the re-establishment of the apostate Israeli state that Jesus condemned prior to his Crucifixion. It is time for the body of Christ to wake up!
Well said spot on Phil. They distracted and infiltrated the church. There is a scripture that says we will wake up and know. Seems soon.
I think so. The Holy Spirit cannot be gagged.
We don't have the mind of God to begin to understand but we do have the Holy Spirit to discern and guide and reveal.
I must have faith to have hope and sanity.
There us a lot of insanity going around.
It seems they would know the names on a list before promising to release them multiple times.
Good point. I listened to that press briefing and picked up the same vibes. It was very uncharacteristic…
First of all, Jeffrey Epstein does not exist, there is no list, etc etc:
𝐂𝐎𝐍𝐒𝐏𝐈𝐑𝐀𝐂𝐘𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐫𝐢𝐚: 𝐁𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐉𝐞𝐟𝐟𝐫𝐞𝐲 𝐄𝐩𝐬𝐭𝐞𝐢𝐧 𝐂𝐀𝐒𝐄 𝐂𝐋𝐎𝐒𝐄𝐃 𝐌𝐞𝐦𝐞𝐬 (𝐅𝐫𝐞𝐞 𝐆𝐡𝐢𝐬𝐥𝐚𝐧𝐞!🤡)
Don't believe conspiracy theories that Jefrey Epstein or a list ever existed, just a noted art dealer who suffered a neck accident and more Jeffrey Epstein memes + why is Ghislane Maxwell in jail?!
https://covidsteria.substack.com/p/conspiracysteria-best-jeffrey-epstein-case-closed-memes
It kinda seems like the "Q" conspiracy theorists may have been on to something.
I've got a gut feeling that a certain Supreme Court justice is on it....
Which one? Both Barrett and Roberts appear to be deeply compromised/controlled...
The three radical left harpies are just plain gutter trash...
Saw a meme yesterday, it’s Ghislaine asking ‘If there is no list why am I in jail?’
Pretty funny on the surface, quick laugh, of course it doesn’t cover everything she and her pal Jeffrey did.
My theory: the "DOJ" memo was issued by Biden's Autopen. It has all the right earmarks, including no traceability to the true source.
I was incredulous when I saw this yesterday. Do they think we are stupid? I made some comments about Bondi being incompetent and untrustworthy. But Jeff pointed out at the start - "unsigned, undated", and there were no tweets from Kash or Dan. Very strange.
Either we are being gaslit, or this is a strategy to make the criminals believe they are off the hook, and keep them from fleeing the country which is what might happen if a full list of them emerged.
This is another 72 hour rule thing for me, maybe 72 days.
Yes, they think we are stupid.
Remember what they did in regard to covid.
I really liked Jeff's list of probabilities with %. My takeaway is his quote:
"That silence could signal guilt, disagreement, complicity, or collapse. Or it could signal that something else is going on— something we can’t yet see. Maybe it isn’t a betrayal. Maybe it’s a staging maneuver. Maybe it’s a disaster unfolding in slow motion. We just don’t know."
I think this is an astute presentation of options. Personally I think the last is most likely and not due to wishful thinking, just 1) we know Trump’s approach pretty well by now, he hasn’t changed, he’s not suddenly bought out, 2) we’ve seen this scenario play out several times in just the last few months (a strategic “leak” or info shared, a bunch of people started shrieking, fast forward a couple days and it all makes sense. Might not be a couple days but there probably is something else going on behind the scenes and honestly I don’t care if they share every nitty gritty detail of it. I’m thankful for an Admin that IS for us and IS getting things done and doesn’t HATE us.
Trump is crazy— like a fox
We'll see... IMO, he is now completely controlled by Israel/Mossad and Netanyahu... and there are simply too many powerful jews on the Epstein list... and involved in 9011 and the JFK hit too.
He called Bibi the greatest man ever... enough to make a cockroach puke.
He's re-arming Ukraine, still supporting the mass-murder in Gaza and trying to bully Putin... which makes him a 3D imbecile.
I agree Susanna, well said, thanks.
I also just read a Substack from Brian Cates about this. Here is a bit of what he said:
"There is a very prevalent reason NeoCon Media Inc. stridently insists it's long past time for the DOJ/FBI to drop all the cards on the table and show the globalist cult what they're holding - so they can prepare their counter-measures.
Most of the public pressure that's been placed on the DOJ/FBI to 'show the cards' since 2020 has been carefully driven, guided and stoked by NeoCon Media Inc. and the oligarch-planted social media influencers who've moved into our MAGA space.
Absolutely nothing is going to be allowed to compromise these very serious investigations into crimes against children until the people handling this are ready to disclose.
And all the loud NeoCon Media Inc. whining and crying and bitching about this changes nothing. It will not speed anything up. It will not force a disclosure that is not in the interest of justice.
The people being investigated for their vile activities will find out what the government is holding against them when their indictments are unsealed and not a minute before.
It's all just noise."
I tend to agree with his take, thanks for sharing!
Yes, when Trump does something that disappoints, the first thing I always think is "he gave us OWS, lockdowns, and the biggest upward wealth transfer we've ever seen. So, what should I expect, really?"
And they weren’t wrong re stupidity & WuFlu
And look at how many people, I mean sheep, went along with it.
It’s like that Solzhenitsyn line (We know that they are lying, they know that they are lying, they even know that we know they are lying, we also know that they know we know they are lying too, they of course know that we certainly know they know we know they are lying too as well, but they are still lying. In our country, the lie has become not just moral category, but the pillar industry of this country...)
We’re done. The 3rd stage of the American republic is crumbling (stage one - 1776 to the Civil War; stage two - Civil War to World War II; stage 3 - post WWII to present). Consistent with the three 80 year stages of empires. Corruption, moral decay, and lies are at the center of our very sick country. Our once predominantly Christian country has devolved into a corrupt vain bureaucracy where we grasp at straws, and look on as homocidal maniacs like Bibi the Butcher pays a third visit in one year to a clown like DJT and presents him with a letter nominating him for the Nobel Peace Prize on the same day that the Epstein coverup insult is served up to us on a cold platter.
If you don’t trust DJT, I can see your logic - I prefer Jeff’s well thought out analysis - stay hopeful that the greatest good will be served - Bondi, Patel, and Bongino (and Trump) are sending us a signal that they know that we know and the signal is to hang tight, we are in the best hands possible in this horrendously corrupt world ruled by despicably evil
elites who need to be taken down - we must be patient
The best hands possible? Trump utterly failed in his COVID response, to the point of attacking governors who defied lockdowns, and pushing the jabs as late as 2024 (that I recall - maybe beyond that). Trump is a huge improvement, I voted for him of course, and has done a lot right. But "best hands possible" is ridiculous. If Ron Johnson were president, maybe you could say that.
Ron Johnson, my senator and nobody better currently in congress.
IMO nobody better, anywhere. I was very relieved he got re-elected. Nobody else in government does as much as he does on COVID, which is the issue I care most about.
ok, Ron Johnson is awesome - no doubt and a great human and who has done so much for the COVID issue but NO WAY could handle dismantling the deep state which is what DJT is working on and started working on four years ago. Trump def was not and is not where we need him to be on COVID, but maybe he'll get his justice and accountability there too, I don't think this is over yet. Besides, we need the whole team in order for this to work, of which Ron Johnson is very important component, as is RFKj.
I agree with you wholeheartedly. My opinion was about those in congress and not the executive branch. Not sure Ron Johnson would have the same effect as DJT as Ron has not been to war with the deep state like DJT.
Trump is unusually well suited to take on many of the challenges he has. The way he faced down the lawfare (and ARs and AKs) is truly awesome. Similarly, Ron Johnson is unfazed by facing seemingly unbeatable opposition, and keeps on trucking. We'll never know how he would have done against the deep state as president. I love much of what Trump has done dismantling USAID, DEI, etc. Johnson's manner would be different if he were in Trump's spot, but that doesn't mean he'd be less effective.
Of course I hope you’re right. In general, I am a fan of Jeff’s optimism. I appreciate it that he laid out for scenarios, any of which could be plausible.
FWIW - I voted for DJT, this time chiefly on the basis that I believed him when he said he would pull us out of all foreign wars. The only positive about this latest Epstein coverup — and the timing with Bibi’s arrival on the same day — is that there can be no doubt we are no longer a sovereign nation.
Interesting timing for the nomination letter to the Nobel committee from Bibi, isn’t it?
Agree.
And if Trump was really so clever, he would have claimed that due to the incredibly serious nature of the Epstein CRIMES... much more time was needed before acting... or some other believable story... to delay...
Instead, he ran this laughable and pathetic load of bullcrap out, an insult to anyone with half a brain...
I am going with 'Trump is now totally compromised and controlled by the scumbag Zio-pigs of Israel/Mossad and has totally betrayed his once loyal base... he is a corrupt POS.'
Until proof is given it is not so. I bet a LOT of his base feels something similar.
Yes, the demise of the Republic is nearly complete. We abandoned sovereign control of our money (Central Banking), the State Legislatures no longer select their US Senators (direct voting), and law enforcement is largely federalized. Common Law has been replaced by Federal Rules of Civil and Criminal Procedure. Organic, sovereign State Citizenship was gradually replaced by the Fourteenth Amendment Federal Citizenship. The Electoral College is the next big target. That would just about end any semblance of a Republic. Imagine national elections where the combined voting power of just a few of our largest metropolitan areas
would carry more weight than the combined voting power of two or three dozen states.
I never trusted Bondi from the start. She will say and do whatever works for her. I had a much better opinion of Patel and Bongino. But, Patel is all in for the coverup. Very disappointing. In his Rogan interview, his manner changed when claiming Epstein killed himself and the Epstein saga is a nothingburger. He's not a good liar, at least that was nice to see.
Bongino sounded like there was a gun pressed in his back when he whispered:
“He killed himself”.
So unconvincing.
Agreed! he was totally lying - only saying as little as possible and what he was forced to say. Easy to read he was not a willful participant.
That’s what has me so concerned that there may not be some 4D chess going on, here. I have no doubt that the man holds lying of any kind in deep disgust but I have to suspect that he could manage it if that’s what it took to make The Reckoning happen.
I do still trust Kash, he knows. Bondi is the boss of Kash and Dan, so they are in a squeeze. And I have heard that Bondi is a Scientologist. If so, another reason to distrust her.
Bondi made millions working for Qatar.
Bongino and Patel both sounded like they were reading hostage notes. As did Tulsi Gabbard when she flip flopped on her statement about Iran having nuclear capabilities.
Bingo!
Yes, I think something more than we are seeing is going on. Just haven't figured out what.
Your 72 hours or 72 days post is at 72 likes: too apropos for me to hit the like button 😂
When a meticulous person (Bondi) heads a department that releases releases a less than meticulous ‘memo,’ it snagged my attention. I am a patient grasshopper.
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Blessed are those who mourn, for they shall be comforted.
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You are on fire this morning, Jeff 🔥🔥🔥
“It leaned into the passive voice so hard it would make my old grammar teacher blanche in horror”
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While we’re on the topic of grammar, “or” should be “nor” in this talking point from the memo, whomever it was written by:
“Perpetuating unfounded theories about Epstein serves neither to combat child exploitation or bring justice to victims.”
As a former English teacher, I approve of this message.
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Ditto this writer and editor.
This looks eerily similar to the letter hundreds of us received by our large government contractor employer, when we were fired for not taking the Covid shot. Strange language, and no date and no signature.
How about "by whomever it was written"? My mother used to tell me a preposition is a poor word to end a sentence with.
With apologies to your mother (and in fairness to her, it was standard usage at the time she taught you that), I cite Chicago Manual of Style (18th ed.):
5.186: ENDING A SENTENCE WITH A PREPOSITION
The traditional caveat of yesteryear against ending sentences or clauses with prepositions is an unnecessary and pedantic restriction. And it is wrong. As Winston Churchill is said to have put it sarcastically, “That is the type of arrant pedantry up with which I shall not put.” A sentence that ends in a preposition may sound more natural than a sentence carefully constructed to avoid a final preposition. Compare “This is the case I told you about” with “This is the case about which I told you.” The “rule” prohibiting terminal prepositions was an ill-founded superstition based on a false analogy to Latin grammar.
• https://www.chicagomanualofstyle.org/book/ed18/part2/ch05/psec186.html
No need for apologies to my mother: she would have enjoyed the sarcasm, as do I.
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This is something I’m very happy about. 😀
About which you are happy. Right? 🤣
Just for fun, we should start something called The Grammar Wars. LOL
😆 The Nazis might win that one ;-)
Lol... Given that grammar is no longer formally taught anymore, I can see the expression of younger folks, "Grammar whaaaat?!"
More like, "gramer wtf" 😆
I hear you and Nita's mom. But, honestly, isn't the point to clearly communicate? And some of the dadgum rules only work for folks that read "literature," not memos.
BTW, I'm just an engineer, but I can write many a short story that will put most people in tears. I don't generally break the rules, and I'm quite aggressive about writing that fails to communicate clearly. But many people have differing backgrounds. Should they be fearful of the style manual police when considering whether to write to communicate?
Balance, time and place...
Agreed, J Boss, and that is actually the point being made in the Chicago Manual of Style rule I referenced in which they critique "unnecessary and pedantic restriction[s]" :-)
Thank you for this English language style update?
My mother used to tell me a preposition is a poor word with which to end a sentence.
Churchill: "This is the sort of English up with which I will not put.”
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To parrot my occasionally vulgar children (admitted failure of parenthood) I give almost zero F's about the Epstein list. Never forget, the goal is to divide and conquer. Focus, focus, focus.... would it be nice to know, yes, just from a character perspective, but we already know most of our political leadership, R and D alike are compromised.
Do you have a daughter?
You should care.
Young women (minors) were trafficked and raped.
Whoa with the pile on. We all care! We all care about child abuse, and especially sexual abuse. But I have said from the get-go, there is no way in hell that DC releases that list. They’re not going to do it. I hope Jeff’s number three is correct, Trump is playing Four D chess. I know for sure we don’t know enough yet, and we may never know enough. But I think they’re also looking at this as a destabilizing global event, and the entirety of the West could come tumbling down.
When it comes to abuse of children, vengeance should be the norm to punish the perps.
And I don't care if it is a destabilizing global event.
It would be interesting to let this all blow so we can see who the worst of the worst are in society and deal with them accordingly. As with everything, the world will move on as it always does and time will make it that most will lose interest in those perps knowing they have been brought to justice. Shine the light on their faces and the chips fall where they may. I do not believe it would destabilize as there is always someone to fill in another's shoes. We are all replaceable job wise. Let it rain.
Of course it’s the norm Kathleen! No one is disputing that. What we are disputing is whether this list will ever be released or not. We can help the victims because politically, none of us can force this to be released.
After covid, and what they did to us, I no longer have any patience for skulduggery.
Unless there is a whistle-blower at the FBI or DOJ, we will never see the list.
I have no patience for skullduggery within an admin that we voted in based on transparency.
What about the victims? I wonder if this would rile them up enough to name names. Of course, they may have been threatened with who knows what if they were to tattle.
I think of all the Muslims and Africans in Europe, Britain. Many are violent and some are just trying to live their lives peacefully. But the violent ones will ravage and pillage and make Europe unlivable for generations. So, damned if we do damned if we don't... Here in the US we, thankfully, have the 2nd Amendment. Europe has pitchforks, and a history of ravaging other lands. Yikes!
Once again, you see why the Left wants to take away citizens’ 2A rights. And it’s not due to their compassion. Europe is learning that. Horrible leaders.
That's no 'pile on', the dumb ahole just said "I give almost zero F's about the Epstein list." So he does NOT care.
Can't you read?
Trump's 4D chess, my ass.
I have one daughter and three granddaughters and I would enact earthly revenge on any M'Fer that touches them. Me and my son's would probably spend a good long while in prison for that revenge. I hope that answers your question.
That is why we all should care about those young girls even if they are not our daughters.
Agreed. Don't touch a child unless you want to find Hell unleashed.
I’m a lot more concerned with the judges here in Lawrence, KS who regularly give probation to anyone who doesn’t successfully murder someone. Rape, kidnapping, attempted murder? Probation! Their names are Pokorny and Donovan.
I feel exactly the same way. I really could care less about this. It's a setup, any way you look at it, gladiator games to keep the people distracted. Arrest all the pedophiles you can wherever you find them, support the victims, but do the stuff of govt to solidify an agenda in law so that the dems can't easily undo it. Why do we always fall for every shiny object??
Young women (minors) were trafficked and raped.
In what world is that OK?
The UK
Horrible what is happening in the UK and the government being part of the coverup.
Germany is almost as bad.
France is looking for someone to surrender to... it's in their genes.
Unfortunately, 1000’s still are and always will be. Execute predators on sight! Save the tax payers!
It's not ok, it's never ok. I work in an African nation's largest slum with girls - I'm fully aware of the devastation of it. There's a lot of work being done NOW to stop it NOW, and hopefully people involved in this will get their comeuppance in some way - but there was no world in which it was all going to come to light, either because of genuine deep state bullsh*t of keeping useful people in their pocket, or because there was a shredding party or digital equivalent of a nuke.
At this point it’s less about Epstein per se than the fact this admin has been shooting its mouth off from about day 1 re Epstein & Kennedy files & now this 180 which is absolutely not credible. The promise of “transparency”, at least on this issue, is a bald faced lie. So then one wonders what else they might be lying about.
And where is the MLK info as promised?
Thanks for the reminder about no MLK files.
US government involved for sure.
And 911 and JFK... both Mossad operations, small wonder Netanyahu's catamite Trump is not releasing them either.
I still have faith in Trump overall. I can't give it all up yet as I am hoping there was a reason for the Epstein move for a greater purpose.
Good to think positive...
I have lost faith in Trump. Too many actions I feel are criminal, too much info suppressed... too damn many Zionist-supporting pigs in his administration... too many LIES.
One more example that concerns me: Trump has very recently said he’s satisfied re the Butler assassination attempt investigation. Are any of you? We know virtually nothing to this day about the shooter, motives (other than the obvious one), why the FBI hosed off the roof so quickly, body cremated immediately, how he got to such a rooftop position, ad nauseum. Not to mention the golf course one. Zero “transparency”
Gladiator games... Profound when you think about it.
So because Lord Trump says there's no list, you now no longer care which of our elected leaders have raped children and been compromised by intelligence agencies?? Seems pretty important to me!!
Trump is not my lord and I didn't say it wasn't important. I am willing to give Bondi, Patel and Bongino time to work. This has been going on since... Clinton (based on the artwork....), it's not going to get cleaned out in 6 months. Just off the top of my head, Garland, Barr, Sessions, Lynch, Holder, Mukasey, Gonzalez, Ashcroft, Barr (again), Meese should be facing white hot scorn... They knew and they willfully covered it up.
They cover up because they are the criminals. They’re protecting themselves.
Agreed!
Exactly. These "leaders" of countries and businesses could easily have been manipulated(aka blackmailed) into doing a lot of really bad things that effected all of us. I think of the scene in the Naked Gun when the fireworks factory is on fire and explosions are everywhere and Frank Drebin is waving people on saying, "keep moving, nothing to see here."
Cousin Clem - You are speaking in past tense - all of these leaders will continue to be under the pall of blackmail (if, indeed they are guilty).
Convenient to not care....the list likely only contains names of some of the most powerful people in the world who work for some of the most powerful institution in the world. People who raped young girls. But hey, who cares! Let them keep living their disgusting lives and hurting others.
I didn't say I didn't care. Obviously most of MAGE cares. If I've learned anything, I'm trying to incorporate that my timing is not HIs timing... If 'my' plan had been enacted in the fraudulent 2020 elections, we would not have gotten a truly inspired Trump 2.0. Give them time time to work, it WILL be messy, but there is most definitely opposition. Evil is just not going to roll over.... and give up. Luke 4:13; ... and he (Satan) left him until a more opportune time.....
Good Lord, you and Kathleen have lost your mind! No one doesn’t care about this! Many many people belong in jail, we all know that. Or strung up with rope on public gallows. We all understand it, we do not lack morals. What we are talking about is whether it’s realistic to believe that the deep state and very many powerful, big wigs in DC will ever allow this to be released. It’s a blackmail set up. The CIA & Mossad ran Epstein. The vile and disgusting child traffickers worldwide fed girls into operations like this. Young children were trafficked over the border daily for at least the past five years. I think they are the worst offenders on earth, the worst people on earth. But that does not change my mind that they’re gonna release this list. Political dynamite.
My vote is the gallows please.
Preceded by arsenic.
I just have a different opinion than you.
Stop with the "lost your mind" bullshit.
We don’t have a big difference of opinion, Kathleen. We would both gut them with a knife if they did it to our daughters (maybe not you but definitely me). That’s not even what I’m talking about. Y’all are going after people who are talking about why they think the Epstein list may or may not be released as if we are saying we don’t care about what he did, these are two different subjects.
The reason why people are so outraged is because the Epstein list represents more than trafficking of young girls.
It represents the rot and evilness that exists in the US and the world.
But, let's just deal with the US. People had been given a false sense of hope that the perverts involved with Epstein would be exposed. What they saw yesterday was incredible gas-lighting by AG Bondi. Especially after her numerous appearances on Fox News about having the tapes, about having the files, etc. It is a slap in the face to every person who believes in honesty and truth.
After covid, the lockdowns, the school closures, the stolen 2020 election, the invasion at the southern border, and Biden's disastrous term, people are fed up and at the end of their patience with the government.
And to make matter worse, Trump got really shitty at a press conference today because a reporter dared to question the whole business. And AG Bondi gave some lame reason why there is a 60-second gap in the video.
Here is the link to Trump's really bad response to the reporter's question:
https://x.com/govt_corrupt/status/1942643993315270697
I completely understand why people are agitated, and I am as well and for the same reasons. I for sure will never trust them again in any capacity. As a school nurse, I had to put up with all of the BS from CDC/FDA/ Fauci through Covid while trying to help families and the school itself navigate the restrictions. I have nothing but contempt and disgust for all involved. I remain hopeful that RFK can completely transform public health and root out the decades-long corruption. But I’m trying to be Jeff-like and a Patient Grasshopper bc this level of corruption goes across all levels of government, all of the NGOs, the Deep State, the judiciary, the DC law firms, and the endless Lobbyists from corporate America. Add in media & this is a very tall order. So I’m willing to wait and see what they can do about Epstein. It’s not ideal, but there’s nothing you or I can do to change it. My thoughts have been running to some past presidents who’ve been on Epstein’s plane and island and to Diddy parties?? That alone would keep the list under wraps. DC is a power town & this is how they work.
I just watched his retort. Looks like defensive posture and trying to get out of the ?. I am a supporter of MAGA but he did not handle the ? with his usual poise.
You're a moron. It's the key to everything.
So, you probably disagree with Jeff's assessment of the Progressive Purity Spiral. Thank you for your opinion... time will tell, be patient, don't do anything rash.
You should be worrying about how many people won't vote in the 2026 elections because of this. I've already heard from several people who continued voting after the 2020 Republican election betrayal (against my advice) that they are done now and will not vote again.
Very true... Trump's approval will take a monster hit. He deserves it, the dumb bastard...
His ex-supporters may not vote for any scumbag Dems... but may well take a pass on teh '26 election.
My daughter and I loved Kid Rock’s football jersey with the “zero f’s given” on it🤣no failures for you, in my book🙃
I agree with you about the list. I don’t like being lied to by people I trusted to be truthful. Silly, gullible me. Everything from the DOJ is suspect. No unringing this bell.
A concern of many is the ability to blackmail the perps, making said perps willing to go along with anything demanded by those with the knowledge of their misdeeds.
This whole Epstein topic is what is known as a "strategy of tension" technique. It's a hot story and no one knows what to believe, but people talk about it and invest time and energy into it. Classic Strategy of Tension: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/the-definition-of-strategy-of-tension
At the end of the day, they are going to lie. We know this, they know this, and yet the lie continues. We must remember, it is their job to lie: https://unorthodoxy.substack.com/p/their-job-is-to-lie-they-are-going
I think it is entirely possible that Epstein is still alive.
I've thought that from day one. All you have to do is look at the photos of 'him' on the gurney. Turn that photo sideways. That is not Epstein, unless his ears and nose changed in prison. There's so much more to this story. Impatience never got us anywhere.
I suspect that is true, how much more valuable to keep his operation going.
Otherwise, it would be like killing and eating the goose that laid golden eggs.
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God forbid.
I saw a very compelling article about a possible body switch with Epstein and Anthony Bourdain...
Sounds crazy... but the pictures of the EARS convinced me it could be true. The story disappeared quickly.
And the vile lice of Mossad are capable of damn near anything...
Absolutely
Yup, definitely a possibility.
Creation of a new polycrisis while Netanyahu visits, while Palentir rainmaking drones linked to Texas flood, while Tucker interviews the President of Iran.
Maybe Epstein estate can sue for libel now.
IMO... PLANTIR is going to be a massive problem for us...
And Trump is bending over for it, just like he does for anything Zionist related... they sure have him by the clackers...
Agree along with the entire Congress. His go to guy Lutnick was a neighbor of Epstein and his mentor and chose his cabinet along with mysteriously being absent from work at the towers on 9/11.
The 911 files are being quashed for the same reason as the Epstein files... Israel's DEEP involvement.
I didn;t know about Lutnick... Trump is totally changed from his first term... Mossad must have him by the gonads... he is acting like a slimy crook.
Lutnick was CEO of Marsh and McLennon? Everyone dead but he took his child to first day in Kindergarten that day.
Lucky guy I guess.
Small wonder the 911 files will never be released, at least by Bibi's ball-polisher Trump... TONS of really smelly stuff there... here's a taste I'm sure you have seen... comprehensive, not easy to blow off...
https://www.unz.com/article/israel-did-9-11/
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I’m going to summarize this DOJ ghost memo using my Stepfather’s favorite word (he was also an attorney). Bullsh*t.
I agree. The Trump administration has destroyed its credibility.
Hahaha.
Favorite word coming out of Natasha Lyonne's character in the Poker Face series. She is a human lie director. Anyone out there that can do that with our current situation? Would love to hear some body language experts opinion on all this.
Let's make sure to keep the families in Texas in our prayers 💗 Those who've lost their children especially. And those who are still waiting...
Absolutely. My husband drowned many years ago in a mysterious accident, and even through the terrible grief, I was so thankful they found his body right away. The waiting would be absolutely horrible. I wasn't even a believer then, but God was with me and He brought me through.
How awful Margot, so sorry.
I'm so sorry, Margot.
I’m so sorry 😞
I agree about keeping them in our prayers but I'm curious. Does anyone know what sort of "Christian" camp, Camp Mystic is? It sounds like a name of a new age religion camp more than a Christian camp.
I wondered that myself until I watched the video of the bus load of girls saved... What were they doing? They were singing praise songs to Him who is able to keep you from falling. Their voices were gorgeous! In the worst of times, having lost friends and starting to barely scratch the surface of understanding the magnitude of that loss... those praise songs filled the air with the hope of heaven, of the Lord watching over them, and the Holy Spirit bringing immeasurable comfort and blessed assurance! That was gold there in that bus! I have no doubt that the Lord reigns at that camp!
It actually sounds Catholic (we Catholics embrace the mystic, including the mysteries of Christ). It's a non-denominational Christian camp that also offers Vespers on Sunday and Mass on Saturday evenings so both Protestants and Catholics can worship. I think its been wonderful holy place for generations of girls and this tragedy breaks my heart.
So lovingly and rightly stated, Essay. We cannot have the Joyful Mysteries without the Sorrowful and so it is here.
What a special place it must be. The glory of God is to make good things come from bad and I have faith that wonders are in store for any place that welcomes people in this way.
The grace and peace of the Lord be with you always.
Thanks for the info, yes it is a tragic situation.
https://www.campmystic.com/
My thought/question as well.
It's been there since the 1930's
What's with all the " ?
I read somewhere that it's been there for 100 years and never flooded before. Maybe talking about the site, not the church.
In 2016 Trump kiddingly asked Russia to find Hillary's "lost" emails; leftist media freaked out claiming Russian collusion. Trump should ask Russia to find Epstein's client list; how would leftist media react to that?
TAW
Operation Warp Speed - The Sequel
Love this!
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Portland wasn’t told there would be math today
😂 Thank you! I needed that laugh after the last few days’ events.
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They're all in on it, and we're never going to see that list. I'm sorry, "national security reasons" is an inexcusable answer. We need and deserve to know which of our elected officials are child rapists. Jeff says he can't believe the Trump administration is in on it, but all the evidence points that way. It's not just the Democrats, it's both sides. Left wing, right wing, same bird taking a crap on our heads.
Trump tries to intimidate & gaslight reporter asking questions about Epstein memo.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/trump-slams-reporter-asking-about-creep-jeffrey-epstein-during-cabinet-meeting.amp
Just a couple of thoughts to add. As a retired fraud detective from a large metro sheriff's department and accepted expert witness before a state regulatory commission on the topics of agency record keeping systems and the mechanics of electronic forgery...
We don't know the provenance of a document. It's easy to forge, type whatever you want, abscond with some letterhead or forge it. Make it good and juicy. No signatures or other stamping. Axios' "source" gives it them. They may be a DOJ insider to add "credibility" to a document.
Maybe. Mr. Childers brings up good scenarios.
I remember in the very recent past about President Trump telling the Iranians he would decide in two weeks what he'd do, then took out their nuclear facilities three days later. IF such a game is playing out here, it could be another fakeout play, probably on a longer timeline. I'm not writing off Bondi, Patel, Bongino anytime soon.
Though my patience is wearing thin on these fucking chemtrails and weather modifications.
My patience is also wearing thin. Spraying this morning again in NE Florida. When are we enforcing the new law, finally?
NM gov website shows the weather mod contracts and then Ruidoso hit with catastrophic flooding. We've stayed in Ruidoso several times over the years to ski and just spent a week in the Kerrville area this spring. Lovely towns and people destroyed. Same sh*t different day with this weather stuff and people have lost their lives. Makes me so angry.
What if…….Trump traded Epstein info on Israeli head honchos as a playing card to get Israel to not start WW3? Think about it from the chess masters’ view or playbook.
In the land of the intellectually challenged (DC) the DOJ memo takes the stupid cake.
The DOJ may be hyper literally correct in that they may have failed to find a document headed "Client List" in giant bold font. But this is meaningless since the government had access to Epstein's personal and business bank and investment account records; state and federal income tax filings; any and all paperwork filed with regulatory agencies; information submitted in connection with mortgage loans, business establishment and acquisition; information held by his insurance companies; all other business records, including telephone records and emails; thirty years worth of news stories, correspondence, and social media; and last, but far least, the (potential?) testimony and records of the handful of clients already identified.
In short, the DOJ could have and should have derived a client list by acquiring all of the above (and more). If the various prosecutors did not obtain the information above, as a start, they shouldn't have been working outside of a sheltered workshop.
So DOJ, where is the list of clients you identified?
Great point; more lawyer weasel words
Not to mention the thousands of hours of video footage that Bondi said they have of abuses taking place. Put those names in a list, and BAM! Epstein list. 🤷
Why does the FBI say "there is no list?" If, as they say, there are hours & hours of video of men having sex with underage girls, can't they produce their OWN list? I'm assuming the faces of the men are in the videos and can be identified. This idea that because Epstein supposedly didn't have a list means no one will be held accountable is preposterous.
I know. It's like saying that he had no "little black book" because the book was red, or something.
Facts
Epstein and crew had every floppy disk, video tape, thumb drive, and photographic evidence, carefully described and filed.
They had a detailed dossier of everyone they were using and everything they did.
But they never listed them, you see . . .
Epstein must have had a great memory.
Saw a comment where Epstein fed the incriminating evidence to intelligence agencies of other countries.
So...the identities of the perverts are out there.
Check this out from a post above. https://substack.com/@fallofthecabalofficial/note/c-131666734?utm_source=notes-share-action&r=qs6o1
Thanks for the link.
Tragedy doesn't even begin to describe her life after Epstein got a hold of her. In every interview, she was always so articulate and poised considering the horrible abuse that she suffered. A lifetime of trauma that will never go away for all of Epstein's victims.
Can you imagine how they feel now? Totally demoralized and defeated after hoping that their perpetrators might finally be brought to justice, or at least exposed for their horrible deeds.
I hope that there is something to that post. I'd LOVE to see the whole thing come apart.
What are your thoughts on victims coming forward with names? I can already see roadblocks to that . . .
The victims are in danger if they speak out.
I would think the victims could identify some of them. If they haven't been threatened about doing so.